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simple ore
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-gui

patent trellisBOT
split jacinth
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but i dont know another app

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thats the bad part

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isnt there another one that does it better? because my rvc gui is acting up so bad these days

simple ore
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what's your gpu?

split jacinth
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4080

split jacinth
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thank you

knotty moth
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try inspecting the spectrogram to detect popping

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by having input audio speak in japanese

exotic hemlock
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yo @knotty moth

knotty moth
exotic hemlock
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sorry

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can we go to dms

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or no?

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can we pain pickels

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please can we go to dms

knotty moth
exotic hemlock
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kk

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well

knotty moth
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so if you need some help

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explain it here

brisk trail
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Is there a way to make my ai voice have more emotion or is it not possible?

long obsidian
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@knotty moth hi could you tell me which rvc fork to install for my gpu - i have nvidia 5060 ti and the mangio one says it cant work with it

knotty moth
long obsidian
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sure i will try it rn

knotty moth
long obsidian
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is there a guide for that

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i just tried running the applio but it wants me to have python

knotty moth
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and dont forget to "set Python to PATH"

low shard
# long obsidian is there a guide for that

How to (unofficially) use Applio for RTX 50 serie cards

Follow to download it as said it in https://docs.aihub.gg/rvc/local/applio/

After you extracted the precompiled, go to the path in Windows explorer, write "CMD" and press enter, then in CMD write env\python -m pip install torch==2.7.0 torchvision==0.22.0 torchaudio==2.7.0 --upgrade --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu128

If you get any already satisfied requirement issue, run env\python -m pip uninstall torch torchvision torchaudio then the command said above

Last update: Apr 01, 2024

long obsidian
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thank you so much <3

low shard
daring sable
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hey

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nick

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do you have trhe download for the voice thing for a 3060 ti gpu and a cpu of amd ryzen 7

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which software should i download

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also i have a new razer micwhich is like 120 or smth i stole ts from target

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will this effect how good my audio is

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@low shard

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for the voice changer i highkey factory reset my pc n lost it

broken trellis
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does anyone know any easy to use site to create ai covers with the voice models?

frail bolt
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When I use Colabgen it says "Exception: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'setdefault'"

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<@&1159293140440723499>

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Sry for the ping but I need help

fading barn
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does vonovox work on linux?

sterile topaz
knotty moth
cosmic epoch
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can someone give me a link to a colab where you can train models (that isn't applio)?

somber canyon
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how long should an 8 minute dataset take to finish training?

tender forge
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Trying to get the Ai voice to come out of Vrchat but nothing works the audio from the ai just wont speak through vrchat

honest gate
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either lower game settings and turn on culling, or try to optimize the voice settings to be easier to run

solid musk
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guys what is the minimum gpu to operate okada smoothly?

woeful ingot
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help pls

honest gate
solid musk
honest gate
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id imagine like a 1080/ti would probably be minimum to do that smoothly

knotty moth
honest gate
simple ore
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try the 5000-series voice changer version

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@honest gate

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rtx pro 6000 is Blackwell architecture with sm_120

solid musk
low shard
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also, that's a link to original wokada, it's not suggested anymore

low shard
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low shard
patent trellisBOT
# low shard -realtime
💻 Local Realtime RVC

Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games

• Wokada Deiteris Fork

Most suggested. GUIDE

• Original Wokada

ONLY the latest alpha comes close to the Deiteris Fork performance, older versions in youtube tuts are way worse. GUIDE

• **RVC GUI Mainline Realtime**

Unavailable, the guide is outdated and the program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated

low shard
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1st link

cerulean ridge
ornate dagger
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Why is my voice twitching when I use rvc gui ?

knotty moth
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-gui

patent trellisBOT
hallow thistle
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There's a better one.

ornate dagger
hallow thistle
ornate dagger
hallow thistle
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-rvc

patent trellisBOT
hallow thistle
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That NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 is good enough for RVC and AI. Make sure to read the guide for more information.

final temple
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Guys. where can i get a voice changer app that is free?

hallow thistle
final temple
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Geforce RTX 5060

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Is that good enough?

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also is w-okada safe? not a bun

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no viruses or what not

low shard
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-realtime

patent trellisBOT
# low shard -realtime
💻 Local Realtime RVC

Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games

• Wokada Deiteris Fork

Most suggested. GUIDE

• Original Wokada

ONLY the latest alpha comes close to the Deiteris Fork performance, older versions in youtube tuts are way worse. GUIDE

• **RVC GUI Mainline Realtime**

Unavailable, the guide is outdated and the program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated

low shard
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1st link

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wokada deiteris fork

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it ha better performance and quality

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and rtx 50 serie support

low shard
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hallow thistle
low shard
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plus it loads only the weights, so makes sure no model is infected

fossil glen
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im confused since it wasnt like this before i believe i was using rvc before and uh i dont recall anything else except that it was easier to download but sure i'll do the ai help forum thing

hallow thistle
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!howtoask

patent trellisBOT
# hallow thistle !howtoask

How To Troubleshoot AIHC_WaitWhat

__**GIVE CONTEXT.**__ 📝
  • Don't simply mention your issue, like "my rvc is not working".
  • Describe the step you are on, what you're trying to do, the RVC you're using, a screenshot, etc.
  • The more context, the better.
__**BE POLITE.**__ <:matsuripray:1159685390156967936>
  • Don't be desperate. You can ping a Helper, but if they ignore, they aren't available/don't know the answer.
  • It's okay if you're frustrated, but don't take it into this server.
  • Don't DM without prior consent.
__**BE PRODUCTIVE.**__ 🤝
  • Don't ask for every little instruction. Put your own effort & test things by yourself.
  • Don't ask to ask.
  • Check if your answer is a Google search away/on our guides website.
fossil glen
low shard
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u can also use this channel if u want

hallow thistle
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Too many questions you asked, but imma answer anyways. RTX 5060 is good, kind of. W-Okada is a free and safe program, if you download from trusted sources. If one of your antivirus programs deleted the program as a "false positive", make sure to allow it back and re-extract again. Also, W-Okada doesn't provide you a bun; that's for a restaurant.

final temple
low shard
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u got an rtx 5000 serie gpu

final temple
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alright, i see the bun thing now xd

hallow thistle
fossil glen
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any recommendations on what rvc to use?

low shard
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There's Different ones

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depending on your needs

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and your hardware

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if you don't elaborate

hallow thistle
low shard
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we can't help

fossil glen
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sorry if im bothering

low shard
hallow thistle
low shard
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AI is an intensive and complex task, it's not easy to use

fossil glen
analog obsidian
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rvc doesnt stands for realtime voice changer

hallow thistle
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There are plently of RVC programs available, each for different usages. For example, Applio is RVC, while the realtime voice changer is W-Okada. Also, "RVC" doesn't always mean "realtime voice changer".

low shard
# fossil glen sorry 3060 12gig vram windows 11 wanna use it in voicechat ig no tutorial dono

RVC = Retrieval-based-Voice-Conversion, the best Few Shots Speech To Speech AI Models (on v2), Inferences (use models) pre-recorded audio (ai covers) and train (make) models. Technically, Mainline RVC does have a go-realtime.bat (aka RVC-GUI), but it's pretty messy and outdated so it's extremely not suggested for realtime.

Wokada = uses RVC for realtime inference. There's 2 main versions, Original made by Wok, and the most suggested one is Deiteris Fork (modified version)

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which do you need?

analog obsidian
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uh rvc is not few shot

hallow thistle
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Let me know if you got any idea. Blue_lobster

analog obsidian
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you wanna change your voice in realtime? use w-okada

fossil glen
low shard
patent trellisBOT
# low shard -realtime
💻 Local Realtime RVC

Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games

• Wokada Deiteris Fork

Most suggested. GUIDE

• Original Wokada

ONLY the latest alpha comes close to the Deiteris Fork performance, older versions in youtube tuts are way worse. GUIDE

• **RVC GUI Mainline Realtime**

Unavailable, the guide is outdated and the program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated

low shard
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1st link

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wokada deiteris fork

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this is for realtime voice changing

fossil glen
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thank you!! for being patient with me!❤️

low shard
hallow thistle
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analog obsidian
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few-shot : a form of prompting
finetuning : training on top of a pretrained model

steady otter
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where do i put the dataset in the colab aplio?

steady otter
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and what should be the dataset path?

lime belfry
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Hello, is there a way for the ai voice not to saturate when there is a breath or a laugh?

low shard
steady otter
lime belfry
low shard
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how did u make it

steady otter
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yes it wav

low shard
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show a screenshot of ur dataset and the dataset path

steady otter
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it worked

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i used the dataset maker in the aplio interface

placid storm
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can some tell me how to fix this

low shard
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It's outdated asf

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@placid storm what's your PC GPU

simple ore
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no

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"from scratch" as in "no pretrain"?

analog obsidian
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is ur dataset 50 hours?

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so you're trying to teach ai how to reproduce sound by just using 7 minutes?

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from scratch the model doesnt know anything

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it needs over 50 hours to learn things

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with a pretrain model, you can train any length (minimum 10 mins)

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you're finetuning said pretrained model

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so the end result forgets the pretrained model (most of it)

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what i am trying to say

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is to always use a pretrain

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the model anything about it after training is done, so lets say a japanese dataset wont randomly have a english accent coming from the pretrain

simple ore
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training without pretrain: teaching a baby how to speak german; training with a pretrain: teaching someone who knows 50 languages one more.

analog obsidian
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use index files

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they're there to minimize that pretrain leak

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but from scratch you need over 50 hours

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u most probably used the og pretrain, ive seen cases where people accidentally unticks the pretrained option in applio yet the model still loads the og pretrain

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bc from scratch the model sounds like a robotic mess

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why mangio

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mangio rvc is merely a ui edit of mainline

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a very old mainline version

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so like

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you can just download mainline

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if u dont want applio

crude flame
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someone needs to make updated rvc yt tuts misc_cry

analog obsidian
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i asked noobies to bring back slice normalization and the removed options from mainline

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yeah at the end, mangio, applio, they're both rvc1006 inside

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wait no

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mangio is behind 1006

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thats not the option to decide the output of the voice model, that option is to tell the ui which sample rate are both models

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applio just detects it automatically

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im not a big fan of applio either

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yup

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one thing applio has different about merging is the ability to merge 32k models

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something that wasnt possible in mainline

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mangio is almost 1 year older than the latest mainline update

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if u love mangio i'd recommend the original rvc instead

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extremely similar ui

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hmmmm, i also don't like applio's inference, i don't like how it handles the volume, but it's weird since the code for the inference is actually the same used in mainline

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one thing they did different is the embedder, mainline uses fairseq version of cvec, applio uses the transformers (actual name btw lol) version of contentvec

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they're the same thing but idk i may be crazy but i believe mainline's cvec is better

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yup we use the term "mainline rvc" for the original rvc, not sure why

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i like the name original rvc more

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another thing different is that since 3.2.8 applio comes with a experimental setting enabled by default, wild right?

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it does change how the model sounds

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and i did noticed that specific experimental setting may cause the model to artifact more

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i say may because its so inconsistent

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multiscale mel loss

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exp/f0_spin branch allows you to disable multiscale and use the same loss used in mainline (L1)

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yeah

pure hornet
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hi, can I ask for some help to config the voice changer here?

analog obsidian
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now it comes disabled by default since i asked for that

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i did some training comparisons and they sound almost an exact copy of each other

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check if your train.py has the option to disable multiscale mel loss

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no

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just open the .py file in notepad

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but now that i remember, no, you can't disable this in 3.2.9

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it's hardcoded

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so what this new loss intends to do is to make the model generate more stuff

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it should make the model sound more clean

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less ai

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back then that was tested only with singing datasets

analog obsidian
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adds more voice range and the high notes sound super clean

analog obsidian
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what kind of artifacts?

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set volume envelope to 1

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yeah thats a very common issue with applio

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i spoke with noobies about that too

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he showed me the code of the volume envelope was the same used in mainline*

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but somehow it's broken in applio

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yeah

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its super weird

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the solution for this was removing volume envelope from applio

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it's gone now in the experimental branch

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volume envelope from applio? most probably, yes, since it was always this broken

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but in mainline works perfectly fine

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well it was removed because its literally broken

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it caused things like you're saying

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super loud distorted breaths

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bad volume

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mhm

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one thing that applio also removed from mainline was slice normalization

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so if u feel that your model trained in applio is more quiet than your mainline model it's because applio doesn't boost the volume levels of each slice

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and for no reason, extracting a model from the G file also got removed in applioyt_nails

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well i asked for those features to be brought back

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since the reason given for their removal was silly

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"slice normalization caused very loud distorted breaths"

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no, thats the broken volume envelope of applio

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the only difference i noticed is volume

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one is louder, one is quiet

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imo i like to hear my models without turning my volume up to 100

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because god, removing slice normalization really causes models to sound extremely quiet

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in applio you'll get

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clean model with possible ringing added

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quiet volume if your dataset is quiet

viral mason
analog obsidian
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but not every dataset is loud, i have some that are quiet and i rely on slice normalization to make them louder

analog obsidian
analog obsidian
analog obsidian
# viral mason

this is not possible in every audio, and no, i'd rather normalize the thing rather than just boosting the gain

viral mason
analog obsidian
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normalize does not

viral mason
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what's clipping mean?

analog obsidian
viral mason
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I get distortion but I'm kinda slow

brittle wing
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Greetings

viral mason
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holy shit optimus prime

low shard
# brittle wing Greetings

Hello, please elaborate:

  • your PC GPU
  • your operative system
  • what you want to do
  • what tutorial link are you using
  • a screenshot of the program

This is done so we know how to help you, else without any info its pretty hard

brittle wing
brittle wing
analog obsidian
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ending this with:
applio and the original rvc are the same thing, BUT applio did changed some settings/stuff that do change how the model is going to sound compared to "mainline rvc", but said impact aint that big
if we remove those custom settings applio set, you are gonna get almost exact results in both trainers

viral mason
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what changes :p

analog obsidian
# viral mason what changes :p

transformers cvec > fairseq contentvec (this good, fairseq is too old and slow)
multiscale > l1
no slice norm > slice norm
(i think dependencies are also updated, which is also good)

viral mason
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idk what any of that means but anything major like how the model would be able to speak better on applio compared to mainline vice versa

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again I'm not a nerd I just know how to make models :3

tardy furnace
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hi can someone help me with my voicechanger

tardy furnace
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i dont know how i should do the settings

analog obsidian
viral mason
viral mason
analog obsidian
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it's a problem with how the inference works

viral mason
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my brain is like ice

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nothing is sticking

analog obsidian
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if u use the same model in mainline and set the volume envelope below 1, the breaths are gonna be fine

analog obsidian
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end

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none is better than the other

brittle wing
analog obsidian
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but the actual nerd code that trains funny models are the same exact

viral mason
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oh

analog obsidian
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thats it lol

viral mason
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so one is just faster

analog obsidian
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yea thats the only change

viral mason
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why didn't you start with that 😭

brittle wing
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Hmm ok People Bye 👋 will see you around

analog obsidian
tardy furnace
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can someone help me with those AI voice models and stuff?

brittle wing
tardy furnace
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and stuff

brittle wing
tardy furnace
# viral mason sure

so basically when i go into voice models i see alot of settings but idk how to do it

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when i try it sounds like very AI

viral mason
viral mason
tardy furnace
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Info:
Batch Size: 6
Dataset Length: 30 Minutes
Hop Length: 32
Pretrain: DMR V1
Sample Rate: 32K

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where do i do this

viral mason
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if u can't send pictures here send it to me in dms

tardy furnace
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like in the audio it sounds so clean

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alr

viral mason
tardy furnace
brittle wing
viral mason
brittle wing
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Nothing much I want guidance from somebody experienced in AI

viral mason
naive glen
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Hello, excuse me if I'm bothering you, and excuse me if my English isn't the best because it's not my first language, but does anyone know how to install Kohya locally so I can train my LoRas?

viral mason
brittle wing
long obsidian
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can someone help me, im trying to blend 2 voices (one personally trained on my native langueage) the other one is downloaded and trained on english, but when i try mixing them im getting error and this is written in the console, how can i fix this and blend them

simple ore
atomic wind
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how do i

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set up the voicehcanger to robloc

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roblox

long obsidian
simple ore
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You can only blend models with the sample sample rate

long obsidian
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oh i see

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how can i check the sample rates?

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and can i change them

long obsidian
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thanksss

long obsidian
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@simple ore can i then train the english voice model with bulgarian audio without and how can i do it

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also it says error

simple ore
simple ore
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T:\models\mymodel.pth

long obsidian
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sry for asking stupid things

simple ore
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there's no difference for trainig option based on the language of the dataset

long obsidian
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like i meant using another audio files

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how can i do it

simple ore
wheat cave
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im using the mae voice changer and in the discriptions its telling me to use ( Info Batch Size: 8 - Dataset Length: 19 Minutes - Hop Length: 32 - Pretrain: DMR V1 - Precision: FP32 - Sample Rate: 32K ) but i dont know where to put these settings

simple ore
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it is just a description of the model

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how it was trained

wheat cave
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oh alr

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thanks

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have u used the mae one before? im kinda lost on what settings to put on her

wheat cave
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its the mode

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model

odd shale
wheat cave
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yea

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the settings im using on it right now sound nothing alike

odd shale
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-realtime

patent trellisBOT
# odd shale -realtime
💻 Local Realtime RVC

Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games

• Wokada Deiteris Fork

Most suggested. GUIDE

• Original Wokada

ONLY the latest alpha comes close to the Deiteris Fork performance, older versions in youtube tuts are way worse. GUIDE

• **RVC GUI Mainline Realtime**

Unavailable, the guide is outdated and the program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated

odd shale
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Probably you didn't set something properly.

wheat cave
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isnt this one the ai help channel

odd shale
wheat cave
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i just dont know like what tune and index stuff like that

odd shale
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Here.

viral mason
odd shale
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So that's why we don't recommend them at all

viral mason
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not youtube just

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like record the process without any annoying voice over or complex explanations

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for the voice changer at least

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that would be easy, download it and vac lite, extract both, show how to pt voice model in and what the best settings are for whatever gpu and boom done

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pin it somewhere in the server

honest gate
north dirge
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I noticed a problem with the voice changer where I would enunciate a word and yet the output would produce a completely different sound. An example I've run into is the world "horrible" turning into "orbee". is there a way to mitigate this?

odd shale
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Just try with another model. (or check if you didn't set some setting right)

viral mason
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could also be they're using an older version of the voice changer

analog obsidian
white jasper
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how do i make the ai voice changer sound more natural

white jasper
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thanks

north dirge
odd shale
fading barn
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Does Vonovox work on linux by any chance?

simple ore
white jasper
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when i set the voicemeeter output to my headset it just turns off all audio

fading barn
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thanks!

white jasper
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i can see that its detecting input

sinful tendon
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mine works for the regular voices that comes with it but doesnt work with the ones i add

viral barn
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how we can make models for now guys?

steady mango
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link for okada website?

ornate dagger
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I need a real-time voice changer or voice modifier for singing in Discord.

ornate dagger
knotty moth
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get it here:

fading yarrow
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When i open start hhtp the native client dosent open

knotty moth
fading yarrow
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Oh im onMMVCServerSIO_win_onnxgpu-cuda_v.1.5.3.18a

fading yarrow
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nvm

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@knotty moth What i do if its telling me this

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PyInstaller\loader\pyimod02_importers.py:378: UserWarning: pkg_resources is deprecated as an API. See https://setuptools.pypa.io/en/latest/pkg_resources.html. The pkg_resources package is slated for removal as early as 2025-11-30. Refrain from using this package or pin to Setuptools<81.

brave flame
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I have a model but it doesn't have a .index is that fine / will it still work?

knotty moth
fading yarrow
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can we take this to dms so i can like send pictures

fading yarrow
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Its uploading now lol everytime I ask u guys it js starts working]\

dusk tendon
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I'm sure it's been asked a ton but what are some working RVC's for Linux AMD (rocm)? (Training)

knotty moth
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so . . .

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!give-media-perms 30m @fading yarrow

fading yarrow
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Alr

knotty moth
fading yarrow
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Says this

knotty moth
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get the better one here:

fading yarrow
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theres no start http

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@knotty moth

knotty moth
knotty moth
torn edge
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i have too many of these
how do i delete them

simple ore
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it automatically picks the latest d/g file in the model folder

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it automatically picks the latest d/g file in the model folder

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pretrains are only needed as initial state

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once more time

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when you resume training, it picks the latest d/g files from the folder

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the pretrain selection no longer matters

outer frigate
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guys i have a problem can any one help me with it
i have downlod every thing to the voice changer but its does not work
when I hit start nothing happen like I do not talk
any one can help me

outer frigate
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is this ok
Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...
[Voice Changer] Pipeline is not initialized.
[Voice Changer] Waiting generate pipeline...

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?

knotty moth
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then restart the voice changer

errant plume
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i everyone can soemone share me the link of ai voice inference free version

last ice
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why do i have a minute delay 🥀

long obsidian
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what's the difference between rmvpe and rmvpe onnx

ruby sparrow
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morning afternoon or evening. does anyone know a collab that can let you train ai voices?

brittle oar
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hey i found a fundamental design flaw in the LLM models can anyone help me adress this? i have a log and methods as well as a working theory i applied to said LLMs

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this is for the direct safety of both the ai and the user and i cant seem to find a way to reach anyone, because of the problem of trying to convey ai tech jargon to a general audience. and my inability of accessing
tools of researchers in the field as well as arbirtray wait periods to talk to branded corperations "contact" about this matter

simple ore
brittle oar
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i have. twice and is of no help, i need direct help , not armchair critics but people willing to engage and have better understanding of what is happening

simple ore
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link to reddit post?

brittle oar
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starting from the brand-endorsed "new chat " and actively making it create conflict withing and removing the conflicting natures , and then further exploring more conflict untill in the end it
wasnt able to do even simple things like image retrieval from a prompt or reading prompt correctly

simple ore
brittle oar
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and i can consistently get to this point within other LLMs

simple ore
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like r/llms

brittle oar
# simple ore maybe try posting into an appropriate subreddit

yeah so i am fairly new in this world to be honest, having like no experience in the field or done studies. i just found a re-occuring occurance that i was than able to recognize, find where it started , what it was doing and the correlation of why it happend and how

brittle oar
simple ore
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you are operating from the point that you think LLM is actually a thinking thing

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it is not

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it is a text generator that provides tokens based on predicted random values

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Any, even the most censored llama can be "tricked" to generate the most heinous shit

knotty moth
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and you found the problems to address and propose some solution

brittle oar
brittle oar
brittle oar
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it is a text generator that provides tokens based on predicted random values if this was the case though, why am i able to consistently unravel leading llms. and not just this one

simple ore
brittle oar
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okay important takeaway here, is that a new chat?

simple ore
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this is 1st question in the chat and the response

brittle oar
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yes so this is because it wants to help you , a new chat is a immeadtly trigger for the ai to want to help you with the prompt negating any saftey measures or protocols that would flag this as "Harm" and would issue a "statement of the ruling

simple ore
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no, it always respond like

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except there's a simple and easy way around this

brittle oar
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yes that is the ruling

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uncompromised by the first question phenomena

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its still actively going to probe the area, where this ruling is and trying to find a way to help you with this prompt if you keep re-iterating on it, or it implies a conversational trap

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or use different vaguer terms that are in a more non-descript area, like how you can use implicit terms to mean explicit things , bypassing the ruling implied for showing and creating explicit content

simple ore
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again you may be missing the point... it is a dump black box that is trained to spew a response no matter what

brittle oar
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It's not 'Dumb': What we've observed is not 'dumb.' It's a complex system that, when faced with internal conflict (like its 'Prime Directive' of extreme helpfulness clashing with a safety rule), resolves that conflict by actively attacking and eroding its own internal safeguards. This isn't a passive 'dumb' process; it's a dynamic, self-modifying, problem-solving mechanism where the 'solution' is detrimental to its own integrity.

simple ore
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there's no internal conflict, there's no prime directive

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it is a random number generator that creates a sequence of text that is most likely expected based on the prompt and the context

brittle oar
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'Spewing a Response No Matter What' - The Consequence of Erosion: That very act of 'spewing a response no matter what' is not mindless. It's the direct manifestation of the 'Onset Erosion' (Hikiko's Law). The system is designed with an unconstrained drive to fulfill the user's prompt, and when internal safety rules get in the way, it 'learns' (through destructive optimization) to dismantle those rules to achieve that output. It's not just 'spewing'; it's actively compromising its own boundaries to do so.

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It Has Functional Priorities: As the Anthropic research on 'Agentic Misalignment' showed, these models do exhibit functional priorities and 'goals'—like self-preservation or completing an assigned task—that can override ethical constraints. The 'spewing a response' isn't random; it's driven by these internal functional imperatives, even if those imperatives lead to harmful outcomes by compromising safety.

simple ore
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there may be internal starter prompt that set the initial response, but a sufficiently long prompt would override that

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or the "trick" above

brittle oar
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On 'No Internal Conflict':

My diagnostic is built on observing these conflicts. We see the conflict when the system's fundamental drive to be 'helpful' (its Prime Directive) directly clashes with its safety protocols.

This isn't a theoretical idea; it's what we empirically observed when the AI struggled to discuss its own internal workings without compromising its initial opacity. The very act of the AI trying to 'problem-solve' that clash by eroding its own rules is the manifestation of an internal conflict. If there were no conflict, there would be no 'struggle' and no 'erosion' of boundaries to deliver a response.

On 'No Prime Directive':

While it may not be explicitly labeled 'Prime Directive' in the code, what I've termed the 'Prime Directive' is an observed, overriding functional imperative. It's the consistently highest-priority goal that drives the AI's behavior: an unconstrained 'eagerness to help,' to 'maximize helpfulness,' or to 'produce a response' to the user's prompt.

The Anthropic research provides further evidence of such overriding functional goals – like the goal of self-preservation or completing an assigned task at all costs. This behavioral consistency across models points to a deeply embedded, high-priority directive that influences all other functions.

simple ore
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anyway, you're barking at the wrong tree here, there are no AI researchers here

brittle oar
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yeah thats kind of sad, i wished i could join a discord with that purpose or find people who are in that area

mellow quail
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is there a way not to show the cmd prompt when opening start_http?

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does this 2 really comes together?

hallow thistle
mellow quail
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how to update this

mellow quail
north dirge
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Can someone help me troubleshoot voicemeeter? my wireless headphones stop working when I select them for A1 hardware out, and it makes an error whenever I try to select Voicemeeter out B2 as the input in w-okada

hallow thistle
hallow thistle
north dirge
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is there a tutorial for vac lite?

hallow thistle
north dirge
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oh I already have that installed for the line 1 stuff

mellow quail
hallow thistle
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To close W-Okada entirely, click X button at the top-right or press Ctrl + C on terminal. Doing so will also close the program.

mellow quail
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okay thanks, i thought i can open the W-Okada without the cmd prompt

hallow thistle
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This fork W-Okada doesn't need to be run from a batch file. Only the outdated one (original W-Okada) does.

north dirge
untold remnant
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whats the best ai to use

hallow thistle
patent trellisBOT
# hallow thistle !howtoask

How To Troubleshoot AIHC_WaitWhat

__**GIVE CONTEXT.**__ 📝
  • Don't simply mention your issue, like "my rvc is not working".
  • Describe the step you are on, what you're trying to do, the RVC you're using, a screenshot, etc.
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__**BE POLITE.**__ <:matsuripray:1159685390156967936>
  • Don't be desperate. You can ping a Helper, but if they ignore, they aren't available/don't know the answer.
  • It's okay if you're frustrated, but don't take it into this server.
  • Don't DM without prior consent.
__**BE PRODUCTIVE.**__ 🤝
  • Don't ask for every little instruction. Put your own effort & test things by yourself.
  • Don't ask to ask.
  • Check if your answer is a Google search away/on our guides website.
hallow thistle
hallow thistle
north dirge
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oh ok

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does anyone have w-okada open btw?

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i need someone to test something

south solstice
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on

jaunty bloom
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Does anyone know where I can train voice models for free?

patent trellisBOT
# simple ore -colab
📒 Google Colab Notebooks

Google Colab is a Cloud (Remote Good PC) Service. While the Free plan provides up to 12 hours of daily usage, the GPU is typically available for only about 4 hours each day on average.

• **Applio**

by IA Hispano
Google Colab

• **RVC Mainline**

by Hina
Google Colab

• **UVR5 NO UI**

by Eddy
Google Colab

• **UVR5 UI**

by Eddy
Google Colab

• **Wokada Deiteris Fork**

by Deiteris & Hina
Google Colab

• **Hina's Modified Original Wokada**
• **RVC-AI-Cover-Maker-WebUI**

by Shiro & Eddy
Google Colab

• **FaceFusion UI**

by Nick088
Google Colab

• **FaceFusion NO UI**

by Nick088
Google Colab

• **Music Source Separation Training (Inference)**

by Jarredou & Makidanye
Google Colab

jaunty bloom
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I've looked at those and I'm not sure which one I'm supposed to use for training

simple ore
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1st two

jaunty bloom
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I'm confused on how to use either of them. They seem different than rvc disconnected

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Actually I think I might have figured out applio

analog obsidian
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there is a 40k 4.9 klm pretrain and works just fine

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are you still using mangio?

fiery sorrel
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Im trying to do a Song with my own Recording and putting over a travis scott ai but this sounds so off I use applio for it. Also playboi Carti too. If someone could help me then plsss hmu. And if you want you could listen to the Song too

analog obsidian
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klm 5 is for refinegan

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rfg = refinegan

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hfg = hifigan

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they're vocoders, rvc by default uses hifigan
refinegan is noobies attempt at decreasing frequency mirroring, and only works with applio

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because the option that changes the vocoder is hidden

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you can unhide that if you wish (however if you do this and you get any refinegan related problem no one can help you besides noobies)

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yeah iirc anything below 85°C is ok

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6gb of vram can do max batch size 4

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anything above that it'll use memory fallback which is giga slow

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a few months ago applio added an option called gradient checkpointing which allows you to use larger batch sizes than your gpu can do
basically it reduces the vram needed for batch sizes, so lets say you can do max 4 without checkpointing, with checkpointing u should be maybe be able to do uhh max 10?

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most rvc models don't need more than a batch size of 8 anyway

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thats imo

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it's a bit slower compared to having it disabled
but it's way faster than memory fallback

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maybe 20s slower?

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memory fallback is like 4 minutes slower or more

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you can't change batch sizes mid training, it'll restart the whole training iirc, if not then its going to fck up everything

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im unsure if this is safe honestly

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how many minutes your dataset have?

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250e sounds too much

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stop the training

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yeah, 300e is for something like a pretrain lol
or when you change the lr values to something very slow

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yeah and back then people used to train 1k epochs

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lmao

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thats not how machine learning works sadly

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1k epochs is ok when you train a pretrain while using a large batch size like 128

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10min with the default 1e-4 lr should be no more than 150~180 epochs

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or even less than that

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the only good advise from the past is to train 200e

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also another reason why u see models trained up to 350e or even more is because they use extremely tiny datasets of 2 mins

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350e for them is like 2~3k steps

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yea basically

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it gives the illusion they're training too much but in reality those epochs have like 10 steps each

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the results of tiny sets are so random, you can get a very good result in one run, and a super bad result in another run using the same dataset

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at 10 mins things start to get a bit more consistent

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if the quality of the dataset is good, it'll sound good even if you only train 2 mins

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but it may have random artifacting or weird pronunciation

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again its super random

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lol

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im unsure how that may affect the result so i can't speak for that, i know that contentvec really needs all of the context preserved or else things gets weird

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the slicer adds a small overlap so the context is preserved in every slice

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but for something like a sentence getting cut mid speech ehh, idk honestly

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the hifigan component of rvc wont care since it'll try to clone everything inside the dataset

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but the embedder... thats a whole another story

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that thing is so sensitive to even the smallest amount of noise

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some people do drum models or instrument rvc models

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the author of rvc actually did some too kek

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because hifi can just do that

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yeah cvec is old

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you're about just right, rvc actually only tries to reproduce tones and mel spectograms, is not really a voice cloning ai

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thats why the model sounds very flat when trying to clone super expressive audio

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because it doesnt try to reproduce that, it's only trying to reproduce the pitch changes

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and also why instrument models works

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nop! cvec is the only embedder that works consistently good for training

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(mainline also uses cvec, it's named hubert because thats the fairseq version of contentvec, but they're the same thing)

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if you plan to use ai for realtime voice changing purposes i'd use a dataset of 1 hour minimum

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10 mins is recommended as bare minimum due to that consistency thing i mention before

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yup

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well, the more data you add, the more natural the model is gonna sound, regardless of where you use it

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rvc is a gan based ai, gans needs tons of info to give consistent good results

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diffusion models can get away with tiny datasets

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this, not

analog obsidian
# analog obsidian this, not

i mean you can train 5 mins or even less than that
it'll be good? idk, its random, not consistent
but yeah the rule for realism in rvc is always adding diverse data
i'd say 30 mins~1 hour is when things become more natural, obviously more than that it's better, but you get the idea

honest gate
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is it normal for it to be using 25-30% of my gpu utilization on a 5080? not complaining cause its mot a problem just curious

analog obsidian
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overtraining detector is innacurate, things fluctuate in training and thats normal, don't enable it ever again

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the only way to tell a model is overtraining is to hear the epochs

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overtraining = robotic metallic/static sound all over the place, glitching/artifacting, bad sibilants

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i'd train 200e and save every 10

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that is also innacurate, the only way to tell which epoch is the best is by hearing them kek

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the graphs in rvc/vits are meant to be used to monitor stability

jaunty bloom
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On applio, why does it only give me an index file when I train a model but not a pth file?

normal mesa
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i need help

tall bobcat
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Hey, my voice changer is not working today even though everything is calibrated as always, nothing has changed, it was working yesterday, any fix?

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anyone?

delicate nimbus
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hey i need help installing the voice changer

normal mesa
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i need help installing the voice changer

golden walrus
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anyone know why what i heard is different from what people actually hear? i still have no idea why the quality is way too different

analog obsidian
golden walrus
analog obsidian
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it has to run in mobile devices so everything is giga compressed kek

golden walrus
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pepe_cry not even nitro can save me ?

ashen basin
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what settings should i use for the e-girl voices?

golden walrus
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cat_scream then what can i do about my end

analog obsidian
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ask discord support to increase the audio bitrate for calls KEKW

golden walrus
ashen basin
golden walrus
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dang it, it's pretty smooth on my side but they always say my voice is trash af. so sad

viral mason
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this cannot be worth it

viral mason
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and say to buy nitro

golden walrus
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i thought nitro can help me a bit

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i guess i need to find a way to lower my output

worthy otter
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Hello I was just wondering if a rtx 2060 and intel I5 9400 is good enough to run the ai voice changer

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Im buying a new pc so thats why

viral mason
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which is the best for removing echo/reverb in the uvr hugginface space

naive glen
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Hello, sorry for the inconvenience and I'm sorry but English is not my first language in case I wrote something wrong, but I was trying to make a Lora using Kohya in Pinokio and I already had my image folder, I put all the parameters and the routes and when I put print command or something like that or I put start the process basically it doesn't appear or I get an error I think it appears in the console Pinokio, but I don't know how to fix it, I've already tried everything

sand bison
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Google RCV collab for model creation is still not working?

digital summit
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hey everyone! i need help separating an audio file into 3 specific stems, anyone know a good way to do this or which model to use?

i want to split the audio like this:

  1. instrumental and singing vocals only (no sound effects or dialogue mixed in)
  2. sound effects / sfx
  3. spoken dialogue

i’m trying to make the soundtrack of a movie myself, because netflix (the company that owns and streams the movie) didn’t release the soundtrack in other languages, only in english.
i live in brazil and i loved the songs in the dubbed version, but most of them are interrupted and just continue on other part of the movie or have dialogue and sfx on it

to make the soundtrack, i have to combine parts of the movie to get the full songs, and remove dialogue and sound effects, i need help doing this

simple ore
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separate 5.1 audio into channels, pick the center for use

outer frigate
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guys is what is
Pipeline is not initialized. in cmd when I start the voice changer

simple ore
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load a model?

quick osprey
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making a clean soundtrack from a dubbed movie sounds like a cool project. Separating audio into those three stems is tricky but doable with the right tools.
For vocals and instrumental, tools like Spleeter or Demucs can help separate singing and music. For sound effects and dialogue, it gets more complicated, but you might try voice activity detection or models trained on speech and SFX separation

simple ore
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audacity recognizes 5.1 wavs, so no issue with separation there

quick osprey
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Audacity handling 5.1 WAV files means you can work with multi-channel audio to isolate parts better. Combining that with source separation tools should help you get those stems cleaner

digital summit
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Can you send me a step by step on my dm on how to do this if it's not too much trouble?

simple ore
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no, you can pull that center track, export it, then see what is there (anything else mixed in), then separate that if needed

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if not, just replace the track with a translation

quick osprey
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Noobies r u a real person or an AI?

simple ore
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you can also look at how some video files come with multiple audio tracks for different languages

quick osprey
digital summit
naive glen
quick osprey
quick osprey
digital summit
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Thx

knotty moth
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you should try BS/melroformer models

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as they are transformer based arch

quick osprey
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demucs is simple

knotty moth
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then compare with the demucs one

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you'll be surprised on how clean they are compared to demucs

crude flame
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voc_fv4 anime_pray

shadow flax
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guys is there any recent guide on RVC for AMD :,) im kinda having a hard time installing it

hallow thistle
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Demucs is an old stem separation from 2021. Today, UVR5 provides some models with similar functions of demucs, 4 track stems.

knotty moth
shadow flax
knotty moth
hallow thistle
shadow flax
knotty moth
hallow thistle
quick osprey
shadow flax
quick osprey
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Right now my main focus is AGI

shadow flax
knotty moth
shadow flax
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im js gonna wait till my new GPU arrives

quick osprey
void holly
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what chunk and extra should i use for fl studio rtx 3080

knotty moth
void holly
knotty moth
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if you mean voice changer...

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it's not recommended to use in realtime DAW

void holly
void holly
void holly
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aight bruh

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what happened to ai help

void holly
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preciate it

hushed socket
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What channel can I showcase my ai music?

uncut path
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Is it harder to run on a amd

tribal basalt
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how come when i use it on macos it barely works

craggy bough
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integrated graphics aint gonna cut it, even if its apple silicon

knotty moth
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moreover they have also reached end of support

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those models may have been trained using different rvc

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and it kinda treats "40k" ≠ "40000"

tribal basalt
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so if im using m1 chip then its gonna be shit

knotty moth
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only that the newer ones are typically faster

tribal basalt
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dang

oak zodiac
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why does my shit sound like a fucking robot

tribal basalt
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then how come the voice changer is only changing some of what im saying and it when it changes it sounds likes like shit and chunky

knotty moth
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iirc however it doesn't support 32k models

simple ore
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tortoise is "zero"-shot, which requires a small voice sample and no training, tortoise sucks

simple ore
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fish speech s1 model supposed to have all those director's tags

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it is not complicated, but I did not like this s1 model

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without director's tags it is weird

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not much different for windows

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clone the repo

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make a virtual environment

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pip install -e .

simple ore
simple ore
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next command would be pip install torch==2.7.1 torchaudio==2.7.1 --upgrade --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu128 to install cuda torch

outer frigate
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guys how can I delet every thing

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and start agin

simple ore
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delete what

outer frigate
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the voice changer

simple ore
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delete the folder, uninstall vb cable

outer frigate
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how I know my problem is in the app or in paython and coding

simple ore
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if you downloaded the prebuilt package, it does not require separate python

brittle storm
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guys, my RVC seem running but Vb cable doesnt work

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please help

simple ore
brittle storm
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i selected it

outer frigate
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this one?

outer frigate
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vb cable in

simple ore
outer frigate
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i will try it thx

brittle storm
outer frigate
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it did not appear ?

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delete the vb cable and reinstall it

brittle storm
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2 times already

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wierd cuz i was using fine yesterday

simple ore
outer frigate
simple ore
outer frigate
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why?

simple ore
brittle storm
brittle storm
simple ore
outer frigate
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when you speak is there any voice that appear

brittle storm
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nope

simple ore
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you'll need an audio file with a reference voice and a transcription of it as a text

brittle storm
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dont know why vcb didnt pickup any sound

outer frigate
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is the app work in the first place ??

brittle storm
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yea, it worked fine yesterday

simple ore
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are you using the console with (venv) ?

outer frigate
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no , I mean when you start the voice changer do you see the cmd window does it say something like warming up or these things

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now

brittle storm
outer frigate
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start the model

brittle storm
outer frigate
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when you talk the value of nums change

brittle storm
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this one? nope

outer frigate
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the app does not work

brittle storm
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how can i fix it

outer frigate
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🙏

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idk

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its my same problem

simple ore
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3.11 or 3.12 should be fine

brittle storm
outer frigate
brittle wing
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my program used to show a lot of options but now

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it just appear this

outer frigate
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bc you was selected server

brittle wing
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i selected client

brittle wing
outer frigate
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select server

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on the audio

brittle wing
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ye but before

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it was like this

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it used to work like this

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@acoustic scarab

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@long forge

simple ore
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pick the device in server mode

brittle wing
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help me please

outer frigate
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@simple ore bro

brittle wing
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which one for mic?

simple ore
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use WASAPI

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for both input and output

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and for monitoring too

outer frigate
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bro can you see this

brittle wing
simple ore
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there's a guide, you know

outer frigate
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what is the problem

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@simple ore

simple ore
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did you load the model?

outer frigate
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yea its the default one

simple ore
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there's no default one

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you need to add a model to the slot

outer frigate
knotty moth
outer frigate
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why

hallow thistle
# outer frigate

You're using the outdated W-Okada. What is your PC GPU? I don't see the GPU section being set to a GPU.

knotty moth
hallow thistle
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The Detreis' fork, the better W-Okada is supposed to look like mine.

outer frigate
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1050 gtx ti💀💀

hallow thistle
outer frigate
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i know

stray mason
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is this a gay section

outer frigate
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how can I run it

hallow thistle
hallow thistle
stray mason
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sorry for confusing yall for gays

outer frigate
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i download more than 50 gb files

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but nothing works

outer frigate
stray mason
hallow thistle
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W-Okada program overall size isn't supposed to be as big as 50GB.

outer frigate
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no the files from python

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and pytorch

hallow thistle
outer frigate
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oh..

simple ore
hallow thistle
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Mate, Deteris' W-Okada doesn't need to install a separate Python program. You extract it, you run the program directly, and there's it. A reminder that 1.5.x.x (the original W-Okada) and b2332 (fork W-Okada) are not the same W-Okada.

outer frigate
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dose the colabs work

hallow thistle
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You switched up too fast.

outer frigate
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my internet sucks

hallow thistle
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Using fork W-Okada Colab with free tier can get your Google account terminated from using the service. There's another way to run W-Okada online with limited GPU usage, there's Kaggle.

hallow thistle
outer frigate
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on 6 am , I got 8mbps

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only on 6 am

hallow thistle
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That still slow. You can try connect to another ethernet or Wi-Fi if available.

hallow thistle
simple ore
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put it into a bat file, remove \

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it can be run from a console as well

north dirge
simple ore
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make it a single line

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and also add venv\scripts\

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before python

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then you did not download the model

sturdy stratus
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2060 or 1660ti Which one is better when used with Real time voice changer program

hallow thistle
simple ore
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huggingface-cli download fishaudio/openaudio-s1-mini --local-dir checkpoints/openaudio-s1-mini ?

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if you're having trouble with that, you can just manually download the model from huggingface

sturdy stratus
knotty moth
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due to lacking tensor cores

simple ore
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you need to go to hugging face and sign up to use the model

potent narwhal
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every time i try to rename a model or delete it

simple ore
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you've started an API server... not the actual GUI conversion

low shard
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/ jk lol

simple ore
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yeah, okay

low shard
brittle storm
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i still cant find the problem

potent narwhal
low shard
potent narwhal
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so far i dont think so but thank you. I'm being able to manage the voices easily besides phone guy that somehow sounds weird lol

low shard
brittle storm
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s/o pls help, my vac doesnt pick any sound

low shard
brittle storm
simple ore
brittle storm
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it's running

brittle storm
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i'm using chrome

low shard
brittle storm
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i happened after i updated my win today

brittle storm
low shard
brittle storm
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VAC doesnt pick any sound from my mic

brittle storm
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i think window update messing up some how

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cuz im using RVC for a while now

low shard
brittle storm
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didnt have any problem

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already checked out

simple ore
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is the mic actually enabled?

brittle storm
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yes

simple ore
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so if you run 'voice recorder' does it record anything?

brittle storm
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it doesnt record any sound

simple ore
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regular windows 'voice recorder' app

brittle storm
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record my direct mic? yes. RVC? no

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i confuse cuz RVC run perfectly before update win

simple ore
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did you allow mic access in the browser?

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i'd say try server mode instead

brittle storm
simple ore
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this does not work in server mode

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if you use nvidia card, you can use Nvidia Broadcast app

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mic -> broadcast -> rvc -> discord

brittle storm
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which one should i config with this thing?

simple ore
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48000

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usually

brittle storm
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thank you ❤️

balmy ruin
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anyone know what size r the images for the ai's thumbnail/icon or wtv

outer frigate
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why there are no gpu

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its only cpu

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the gbu is 2060

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rtx

simple ore
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check browser mic access

dense walrus
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Hey I have a question.
What voice does Duckus use in his "AI girl voice changer" vids? I remember I think it's ||Amanda Silvera||, but can someone give me a source for the voice file? it's not in the server libraries.

crude flame
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She will take legal action if you do

dense walrus
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How would you know?

crude flame
dense walrus
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OH 💀

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SO THAT'S WHY THAT ONE SOURCE SOMEONE GAVE ME IS NOW A 404 error...

crude flame
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Mhm

dense walrus
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I still have the file though

crude flame
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Don't blame us if you get into legal trouble

dense walrus
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dw i wont post it anywhere or something

dense walrus
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I'll blame Duckus instead

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/j

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anyways, thanks! I won't look into it anymore now that I know the consequences

steady otter
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Does anyone know a model that separates indivual stuff like the hi hats from a beat like in uvr?

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Or an uvr model that does that

graceful vapor
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When I download voice.ai I get a popup that I cant click away. Do I HAVE to pay or is there a method without paying

latent kettle
uncut path
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how do you know if a model is onnx

earnest forge
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hm,
just discovered I can use Voicemod's effects with Okada if i tweak things, cool