I used RVC v2 disconnected
#✨│ai-help
crude grail
brittle wing
How do i fix this?
crude grail
That ping almost makes my ears go brrr-
astral jungle
You can try FR EASY 1/11
astral jungle
astral jungle
How do i fix this?
Why don't you add ngrok?
astral jungle
https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1khsjzEigBogtkA6ZNL3gNXZqmjUAKkM1?authus...
@latent kettle @crude grail
brittle wing
i dont know how this happened
crude grail
ook ook
brittle wing
@astral jungle how can i fix the error
vital field
brittle wing
a free website where i can train thats not google colab?
astral jungle
@brittle wing
brittle wing
@astral jungle that is what i did
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @brittle wing level 10 !!! 
brittle wing
it gave me a error
crude grail
Is that japanese?
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @crude grail level 2 !!!
astral jungle
<@1156802273104625665> that is what i did
Clear the runtime and try again
brittle wing
okay?
astral jungle
Is that japanese?
Which one
brittle wing
Easy👨- 10/25
brittle wing
brittle wing
Notebook loading error
There was an error loading this notebook. Ensure that the file is accessible and try again.
Request had invalid authentication credentials. Expected OAuth 2 access token, login cookie or other valid authentication credential. See https://developers.google.com/identity/sign-in/web/devconsole-project. ?
@astral jungle help me
it does not work
cloud merlin
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whole jasper
Hi everybody. I'm new to the server, and I posted this question in general chat, not realizing there was a help section here. I just started using the service. Just want to say thanks for creating the models. But I do have a question. Any help is appreciated. Do I have to set anything, or can I leave everything as default for RVC in Silly Tavern?
violet heron
**a free website where i can train thats not google colab?**
You don’t
Use colab it’s not that hard
violet heron
i understand
-colab try RVC Disconnected
azure marshBOT
Suggestions for @brittle wing
atomic mulch
Whats more accruate for real time RVC or w Okada
proper shale
Whats more accruate for real time RVC or w Okada
both r probably the same
atomic mulch
both r probably the same
which do u recommend?
rapid zinc
Hello, I downloaded the files from the link you gave, but I am getting an error. Can I reach you via DM? @violet heron
proper shale
which do u recommend?
w-okada for its ease of use
atomic mulch
w-okada for its ease of use
Do u know where to find the download for the most recent locally installed version?
violet heron
Hello, I downloaded the files from the link you gave, but I am getting an error....
Think that’s the reason
you can use only CPU of you have a AMD GPU
(Unless you use onnx models)
proper shale
Do u know where to find the download for the most recent locally installed versi...
this
last version should work
if u have nvidia gpu
atomic mulch
https://huggingface.co/wok000/vcclient000/tree/main
i have a 3090 nvidia yeah
this one?
proper shale
i have a 3090 nvidia yeah
yeah
atomic mulch
https://rentry.co/VoiceChangerGuide#settings-they-dont-always-work
Thank u!
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @atomic mulch level 5 !!!
azure marshBOT
RVC Guides (How to Make AI Cover)
hollow hare
some know how to make AI stop repeat the songs of computer?
if im watching any movie on youtube the AI repeat all
feral gale
hey guys - im trying to run applio on paperspace but keep getting an error about dotonev or something like that
ill see if i can get a ss in a sec
any idea what im missing
rapid zinc
@violet heron This is the error I got. Is it because of my computer's operating system?
violet heron
<@858923165379199007> This is the error I got. Is it because of my computer's o...
Ok the error was because tensor couldn’t load because there’s not enough vRAM
Which in this case it’s coming from the CPU because your using a AMD GPU which RVC doesn’t support (unless you use onnx but eh)
I (think) you can use AMD for more stuff on Linux if that’s what your using
rapid zinc
Which in this case it’s coming from the CPU because your using a AMD GPU which R...
is there an application that I can use in this case? please help me with this, I can only manage up to one place with AI kits.
if necessary, I can send you the specifications of my computer
violet heron
is there an application that I can use in this case? please help me with this, I...
You can try a online method instead on running it on your computer
There’s multiple google colabs that allow you to make models and use them
round moon
i'm getting an error when installing the fairseq, i installed the Build tools aswell, but that is not solving it.
cl : Command line warning D9002 : ignoring unknown option '-std=c++11'
cl : Command line warning D9002 : ignoring unknown option '-O3'
libbleu.cpp
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\BuildTools\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.38.33130\include\yvals.h(20): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'crtdbg.h': No such file or directory
error: command 'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio\\2022\\BuildTools\\VC\\Tools\\MSVC\\14.38.33130\\bin\\HostX86\\x64\\cl.exe' failed with exit code 2
[end of output]
note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a problem with pip.
ERROR: Failed building wheel for fairseq
Failed to build fairseq
ERROR: Could not build wheels for fairseq, which is required to install pyproject.toml-based projects```
Any idea?You can also do inference on HuggingFace spaces if you need another online method
rapid zinc
You can also do inference on HuggingFace spaces if you need another online metho...
I will be able to use my models. Do you know a google colab address?
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @rapid zinc level 2 !!!
violet heron
I will be able to use my models. Do you know a google colab address?
-colab
azure marshBOT
Suggestions for @rapid zinc
hybrid crypt
I cant turn on the voice changer, It just loops this command over and over again when I push start
[Voice Changer] update configuration: serverAudioStated 0
[Voice Changer][ServerDevice][audioOutput_callback] ex: could not broadcast input array from shape (1024,2) into shape (52684,2)
[Voice Changer] server audio performance [2, 0, 0, 0]
status: started:0, model_sr:40000, chunk:448
input : id:3, sr:44100, ch:2
output : id:6, sr:44100, ch:2```
nova beacon
hi all, can any one help when i use an ai voice model i get error message index -1 is out of bounds for axis 0 with size 0
hollow torrent
Is the improvement in reducing the mangio hop below 64 worth the extra computational cost?
tropic spoke
can someone help me. I new to RVC and I get this error when I try to separate vocals on rvcWebUI
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @tropic spoke level 2 !!!
vapid jasper
Does anyone knows how to fix long ecpohs training?
molten pecan
@brittle wing is it working now?
Why a new acc?
That's not true actually
To access your previous duplicated spaces, go to your profile on the upper right corner
And click on your username
Your duplicated spaces should be there
This is what it looks like for me
Ping me if you need help
static gyro
When i download a pth it says the download was blocked. how to fix?
molten pecan
Yes?
Like I said, go to your duplicated spaces on your profile
It should be there
It means that there's already an existing one
Yes
Yes
Remember to charge your phone too 😭
static gyro
When i download a pth it says the download was blocked. how to fix?
violet heron
Go to your profile
molten pecan
When i download a pth it says the download was blocked. how to fix?
Try using another web browswr
Like firefox or opera
Or brave
violet heron
When i download a pth it says the download was blocked. how to fix?
On what?
violet heron
Normal
Ignore that
The number going up is how much time it’s taking
On RVMPE it should take about 400 seconds per 3 minute song or so
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @brittle wing level 4 !!!
static gyro
Try using another web browswr
i am using opera currently
violet heron
Closed source
It’s not just that
molten pecan
It’s not just that
Oh no crypto browser
Like brave
😭
What's the browser out there?
I only use Brave and the brave browser
And Google
violet heron
Best browser is Firefox developer mode
proper shale
I only use Brave and the brave browser
Brave seems to be good
But also Chromium based so
Firefox is somethin
molten pecan
But also Chromium based so
I heard chromium was a bit of an adware
Or something like that
static gyro
i like opera because it dosent forget my signups
i have edge and chrome but they both at random forget im even signed in
static gyro
anywho
so how do i prevent download block?
molten pecan
# anywho
so how do i prevent download block?
Try using another browser
I use brave
That might work
sand iris
I only use Brave and the brave browser
it's at least open
molten pecan
Hai larry
plucky geyser
on linux using rocm I am having a very strange issue in that every model I make with different datasets all sound the same, and are all garbled up when using index
plucky geyser
the models I've made sound nothing like the dataset
sand iris
Ig I'll try again. Which RVC software are you using?
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @plucky geyser level 3 !!!
plucky geyser
downloaded the zip from releases and went from there
sand iris
Actually there was someone having that same issue a bit ago...
Yet it worked for someone else prior to that
sand iris
available through PATH
plucky geyser
I just have it in assets, I wonder if this is why
sand iris
Unless one of the python modules pulls it in manually but I'd be surprised
But yeah you're onto something
I'll give it another shot and report back
hollow hare
someone know how to make the AI stop repeat all the sound of the computer?
plucky geyser
I installed ffmpeg, I'm gonna be gone for a while so I won't be able to say if this was the cause until later
also, what does gpu utilization normally look like on rocm?
last time I trained with this 2 minute dataset it took 30 minutes to get to 100 epochs at full gpu utilization, now it's looking like it will take an hour and my gpu is not at full utilization
sand iris
last time I trained with this 2 minute dataset it took 30 minutes to get to 100 ...
Oh no
The dreaded unknown bug
Somehow, sometimes it just refuses to compute as fast as it should
plucky geyser
fantastic
mellow epoch
hi do you guys know how to download the voice changer
sand iris
Tried everything I could, it doesn't make any sense. Switching to another fork did the trick surprisingly
But no amount of code profiling made sense
nor nuking the entire thing over and over again
plucky geyser
yeah I already reinstalled rocm once cause of this
what fork are you using?
oh nvm it fixed itself
99% util
sand iris
I think I did a manual install of the Mangio fork when the main RVC software died on me
plucky geyser
I heard my gpu fans ramp up all of a sudden lol
sand iris
...Somehow RVC-WebUI works again now
Also when doing reinstalls for python torch stuff, the system-wide ROCm installation doesn't matter
(unless you used anything other than the pip-installed rocm torch)
plucky geyser
it was taking 45 seconds per epoch, now it's 15 per epoch
why does rocm have to be like this
sand iris
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Hoping it gets better
Though I think the RVC code also is to blame to an extent lol
plucky geyser
I might switch to mangio later
astral jungle
Yo
wispy plover
Hey
wispy plover
Did you need help with anything? I'm trying to install RVC myself right now, so let me know if I can help
astral jungle
Did you need help with anything? I'm trying to install RVC myself right now, so ...
No, I don't need help, I just came to say hello
hollow hare
someone know how to make the AI stop repeat all the sound of the computer?
whole jasper
Did you need help with anything? I'm trying to install RVC myself right now, so ...
I got it working after a day. but I just messed up one setting, but I fixed it. Once you get it working, it's worth it. There's a voice I'm testing out of Harley Quinn from the Netflix series. It sounds exactly like Kaley Cuoco.
I didn't make it, though.
There is one caveat, I am noticing though. When you are done with this specific voice, like if you are going to switch chats or turn off silly tavern for today, or a few hours, Make sure you click the remove button before you turn everything off. Otherwise, the voice map will stay there indefinitely.
I reported it to the silly Tavern team. I don't know if it's a bug or intentional.
wispy plover
I'm trying to install it with the help of gpt4. I'm still downloading some packages so I don't know how far I'll get
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @wispy plover level 1 !!!
whole jasper
I'm trying to install it with the help of gpt4. I'm still downloading some packa...
I see. just install one package at a time. That's what I had to do. Just to make sure they were all installed correctly.
wispy plover
Here is gpt4's instructions. Perhaps they are of help to you.
(I gave it the ReadMe.md file from the official github repo as a prompt)
whole jasper
I recognize this. And thank you. That was very helpful. I'm running a local model though, Reason being, I just don't want to get my account banned.
Although honestly, I think considering it's a paid service, we should be allowed to do what we want, but. you know.
violet heron
Here is gpt4's instructions. Perhaps they are of help to you.
(*I gave it the R...
I probably wouldn’t use GPT for help for RVC
wispy plover
I recognize this. And thank you. That was very helpful. I'm running a local mode...
Banned by whom you mean? ChatGPT?
violet heron
Banned by whom you mean? ChatGPT?
Locally on their computer
Not using a server or service of some sorts
whole jasper
Banned by whom you mean? ChatGPT?
No,openai The company who owns chat GPT 4
wispy plover
Is it not permissible to share GPT4's chats?
violet heron
Is it not permissible to share GPT4's chats?
That’s ok
Not ok to use it for weird things
whole jasper
right
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @whole jasper level 2 !!!
violet heron
Which you can’t be banned from using LLMs locally
sand iris
Here is gpt4's instructions. Perhaps they are of help to you.
(*I gave it the R...
What are you doing ?
violet heron
And you have unlimited and can tweak stuff to your liking
whole jasper
Which you can’t be banned from using LLMs locally
That's why I choose local. I'd rather have a limited data set that I add to.
wispy plover
*What are you doing ?*
I'm trying to install RVC model, but I'm somewhat new to this, so tried asking gpt'
violet heron
I'm trying to install RVC model, but I'm somewhat new to this, so tried asking g...
RVC the program or like models to use for RVC?
sand iris
I'm not too sure about what GPT's been telling you lol
might work, but I'm not sure about some parts
wispy plover
Could've just asked me
Don't want to bother you/someone at this hour, but if you could help that would be appreciated. I've just downloaded all the toch, torchvision, torchaudio pacakges, but I'm not getting any further atm
violet heron
Don't want to bother you/someone at this hour, but if you could help that would ...
But did you download RVC?
sand iris
he's on linux
sand iris
Nope
wispy plover
I have GeForce RTX 3050 TI
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @wispy plover level 2 !!!
sand iris
manual setup goes like this :
- Get required stuff (conda or a compatible python version + required libraries for GPU compute, CUDA for nvidia)
- Get the RVC code from the repository
- Setup a python env with conda / python-venv (not sure 3.8 works, but it might)
- Get the dependencies
- Download models
- Run
whole jasper
Just want to add a note here. For those who only can use a CPU and not a GPU, you can also do it as well. I'm running this off of the steam deck with Windows 11 on a separate SSD, and the results are astonishing. It's incredible.
wispy plover
I've currently downloaded many packages, and I've cloned the github repo, and now done pip install -r requirements.txt
I think this is correct?
sand iris
looks good to me
You might want to rename Retrieval-Based-Voice-Conversion-WebUI to something shorter though
like RVC-WebUI
It's been bitching about file paths being too long when I didn't rename it
plucky geyser
I installed ffmpeg, I'm gonna be gone for a while so I won't be able to say if t...
unless I did something wrong, it still sounds the same. I'll keep trying things later I have to do stuff
wispy plover
I see, thanks for the heads up. I'll do that then
plucky geyser
typing ffmpeg in the terminal does bring up everything related to ffmpeg so it can't be that
whole jasper
When you have RVC fully working. Instead of putting the voice files in the folder yourself, Just to make your life easier, you would just. download the zip file of the model in the voice model only. They will contain both files that you need. Click upload. Give it a minute and the message will pop up in sillytavern, saying that the upload has successfully completed. Click the button next to upload to show the current list of voices. If you need to know where to get files for premade character voices of fictional characters, search on google for "AI Hub Discord" Then click the search models channel. and in the message box. type /search, put in your search, hit enter.
Before I knew this, it was driving me nuts
When you find the model you want just click download model.
wispy plover
Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out once I get it running.
whole jasper
Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out once I get it running.
Happy to help.
wispy plover
Just a quick question again;
I notice that it has begun downloading the same stuff over again. Is something wrong here or is it supposed to be doing this?
It's been downloading the same stuff for ~20 minutes...
sullen edge
newb q: trained my own model and that's fine.
Then I tried downloading a voice on HuggingFace, but the "Inferring voice" dropdown only shows my pretrained models, despite moving the downloaded files around, pressing "Refresh voice list and index path", specifying the path to the index file...
How do we get the "Inferring voice" dropdown to find the voice .pth file we downloaded?
whole jasper
Just a quick question again;
I notice that it has begun downloading the same stu...
You only need one pth file and one index file per voice
sullen edge
.....Ahh, got it: Had to move the .pth file to the weights/ directory
whole jasper
.....Ahh, got it: Had to move the .pth file to the `weights/` directory
Would have answered your question, but I wasn't aware that hugging face offered voice models.
sullen edge
Would have answered your question, but I wasn't aware that hugging face offered ...
Many of the models one finds via the #🔍│find-models channel are hosted there.
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @sullen edge level 1 !!!
whole jasper
Many of the models one finds via the <#1163592055830880266> channel are hosted ...
Had no idea thanks for letting me know
tawny valley
does anyone know how to fix the echoing voices in background issue
hearty wind
возникают частые ошибки. Проверьте, загружена ли модель целевой платформы. AMD
frequent errors occur Plese check if the model of the framework being targeted is loaded
whole jasper
do I need pro?
no
hearty wind
how do I add voice models to voice mod
Youtube
glad zealot
Just a quick question again;
I notice that it has begun downloading the same stu...
That is fine those are different files, the first half is v1 the 2nd half is v2
glad zealot
Agreed
violet heron
Use W-Okada instead
glad zealot
Other than voice modulation I won't use voice mos
violet heron
It’s open source, completely free, and lots of options
tawny valley
does anyone know how to fix the echoing voices in background issue
it works fine untill i use virtual audio cable
wispy plover
I got it up on localhost now. Thanks for the help
Do I also need to move the .pths to weights/ directory? I currently have no modals, even though I think I just downloaded some
sweet egret
Do not use VoiceMod
then what do I use?
glad zealot
I got it up on localhost now. Thanks for the help
Do I also need to move the .p...
I think so but I have really used the inference version of that yet
violet heron
I got it up on localhost now. Thanks for the help
Do I also need to move the .p...
Yep
And index files go in logs
wispy plover
Is there a guide for this part of the process? The ReadMe.md file only mentions the installation process.
glad zealot
There are captions all around the app saying what each part is supposed to do
wispy plover
Yes, but I was wondering about the instructions on which files to move where, and where to place downloaded voice models, etc.
glad zealot
Models goes to weights
Index goes to logs
It should be assets/weights for models iirc
Then logs/<name of model> for index
violet heron
Yes, but I was wondering about the instructions on which files to move where, an...
.pth goes in weights
Index in logs
tawny valley
Has anyone firgured out why theres a duplicated robotic audio after the initial clean voice?
i cant seem to fix this
glad zealot
Dataset?
tawny valley
huh?
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @tawny valley level 1 !!!
glad zealot
Robotic voice in what
tawny valley
in the audio
its like it goes normally and then
it replies the same thing
but metalic
bleak fiber
is there someone with a virtual cable problem?
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @bleak fiber level 1 !!!
glad zealot
Try sup2
azure marshBOT
RVC Guides (How to Make AI Cover)
bleak fiber
Hey guys i don't get how to get the VB cable to work any clues? I installed and the audio just don't play it, and don't play it even on discord
violet heron
Hey guys i don't get how to get the VB cable to work any clues? I installed and ...
Did you set it as your output on Okada
And your input on discord
bleak fiber
Okada? sorry i think i miss that part xd
wispy plover
How long does it normally take to generate a 3 minute vocal?
My very first convertion is taking over 1500+ seconds, and it is still going. Is this normal?
violet heron
Okada? sorry i think i miss that part xd
Okada is your voice changer
bleak fiber
Oh right
glad zealot
How long does it normally take to generate a 3 minute vocal?
My very first conv...
Inference?
violet heron
How long does it normally take to generate a 3 minute vocal?
My very first conv...
Shouldn’t take that long
violet heron
Even for CPU
wispy plover
I just downloaded a random model I found and was trying to test it out on a 3 min song. It's been going for 1600 seconds now.
violet heron
HuggingFace spaces takes 400 seconds for 3 minutes and that’s on a CPU
bleak fiber
Your bio has a few spelling mistakes btw
my english is kinda bad but the text is wrong or something?
finite galleon
I just downloaded a random model I found and was trying to test it out on a 3 mi...
Bro i legit got 6000 once
wispy plover
Inference?
I didn't change any parameters, and just used the default.
finite galleon
HuggingFace not reliable ngl
glad zealot
I didn't change any parameters, and just used the default.
No idea
I use colab for those
finite galleon
Bro i legit got 6000 once
4 minute audio btw
bleak fiber
Strange it was supossed to have Wing dings in there XD
molten pecan
my english is kinda bad but the text is wrong or something?
If somehow the Lord gives me a second chance, at that moment, I would do it all over again.
wispy plover
If it's running on http://localhost:7865/ is it still using colabs?
bleak fiber
OH now i get it LOL
glad zealot
If it's running on `http://localhost:7865/` is it still using colabs?
Colab is on google so no
molten pecan
Where did you get that phrase?
finite galleon
Imagine boxes
bleak fiber
Where did you get that phrase?
The last of us 2
glad zealot
Colab means using Google gpu instead of your own
molten pecan
The last of us 2
Oh man I wish I could play it one day
violet heron
Strange it was supossed to have Wing dings in there XD
That’s why
bleak fiber
But I'm too sensitive I don't think I'll be able to handle it emotionally
well i said is a hard game to end if you love Tlou 1 i just wait 4 weeks to end the part II because i couldn't end it, this game was too much for me but i love it anyways lol
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @bleak fiber level 2 !!!
wispy plover
Colab means using Google gpu instead of your own
I got to try it once, but after one time, it kept disconnecting me and prompting me to purchase credits.
That's why I wished to try out locally. But I've spent nearly 30 minutes on one 3-min-convertion'
glad zealot
Ye that's why you use the modified version instead
molten pecan
well i said is a hard game to end if you love Tlou 1 i just wait 4 weeks to end ...
I see
This is why I don't want to play the last The Walking Dead game
glad zealot
I got to try it once, but after one time, it kept disconnecting me and prompting...
If you're just gonna do inference you can use the colab link in the pins on this channel
molten pecan
If you're just gonna do inference you can use the colab link in the pins on this...
Uhm excuse me this is general chat, go to #✨│ai-help
🙄
bleak fiber
oh i see
glad zealot
Uhm excuse me this is general chat, go to <#1159290139609137264>
Mind checking the name of the channel again?
molten pecan
Mind checking the name of the channel again?
Yeah I do mind
finite galleon
Mind checking the name of the channel again?
How do i help rvc?
bleak fiber
but now seriusly how do i use de VB cable? i have to put the Vb cable on "in" an the output my headset?
molten pecan
but now seriusly how do i use de VB cable? i have to put the Vb cable on "in" an...
Try asking on #🔍│help-w-okada
bleak fiber
i am very confused here my aplication says is "Voice Changer" but people in other channels are puting okada?? is the same thing?
molten pecan
i am very confused here my aplication says is "Voice Changer" but people in othe...
-realtime
azure marshBOT
-realtime
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molten pecan
Hm it seems like they are kind of the same app
glad zealot
i am very confused here my aplication says is "Voice Changer" but people in othe...
W-okada is the name of the creator of it and it has a default name of voice changer that's why
bleak fiber
i think... i get it?
wispy plover
@glad zealot Is this the correct way to fill out these fields? I have a random model and a vocal only song, and I have placed the .pth in weights and index in logs
It took over 40 minutes to load, so I refreshed the page, and am trying anew.
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @wispy plover level 3 !!!
wispy plover
glad zealot
<@444684887363026974> Is this the correct way to fill out these fields? I have a...
That should be it
wispy plover
When I used the Colab, it worked, but I can't get it to work on local
glad zealot
Ye no idea why sadly
wispy plover
This ubuntu is a VM running on a windows laptop. Does that have anything to do with it? Is it lacking memory or something?
wispy plover
This is on my work-related laptop, so I have to do it inside the vm.
Didn't expect this to be such a big process either.
I thought this entire process was going to take half an hour or something when I started, but it's taken me 3+ hours and still no working solution..
But thanks for all the help. I'll try again some time later.
glad zealot
You can just try using the colab versions
elder coral
how to import model from drive to notebook
molten pecan
Yo Rose
pulsar crane
.
molten pecan
I think you didn't realize but, the acapella does have backing vocals
Not all the time though
And also a bit of reverb
You need to first get rid of the reverb and then the backing vocals
In that exact order. For the best results
cyan tusk
okey
molten pecan
But before you do, let me ask, how did you download the video?
cyan tusk
idk if i can pass you the final results of the song
i mixed a bit to try to savage the voices lmao
molten pecan
You can send it on dms though
cyan tusk
But before you do, let me ask, how did you download the video?
on notube
molten pecan
Yes but in which format did you download it?
cyan tusk
mp3
its better to use wav?
i feel sometimes the voices sounded strain
like its was force to go on notes that the ai couldnt make them sound good
molten pecan
Yup
Whenever you train or do inference, it's best to use wav
Then for listening you can use any format, but I recommend flac or wav
molten pecan
Whenever you train or do inference, it's best to use wav
Do you know why?
cyan tusk
maybe an easier way for the computer to translate and use the info?
molten pecan
maybe an easier way for the computer to translate and use the info?
Not necessarily easier, but more accurate and with better quality
Basically the wav format is a format with lossless quality
What the mp3 format does is compress the quality so it has a smaller file size
But wav doesn't do that. So that way RVC can give you better results
long terrace
Hi! I have a problem with RVC covers in the noUI collab
When I use a model that I maded the colab does not use it, but if I use someone from the spreadsheet it does.
What I would do?
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @long terrace level 1 !!!
molten pecan
But keep in mind that YouTube doesn't support lossless quality. So downloading stuff from there won't give you the original quality of the song
But it's still best to download in wav instead of mp3
glad zealot
Hi! I have a problem with RVC covers in the noUI collab
When I use a model that...
Is your model a pth file?
molten pecan
Let me give you the website that I use for downloading in wav
Make sure you select the wav format
cyan tusk
thxs
median monolith
Is it common to to take hundreds (like almost around 1000) seconds for a model to process a 5 minute audio in illaria rvc?
cyan tusk
okey
molten pecan
Is it common to to take hundreds (like almost around 1000) seconds for a model t...
Yup
molten pecan
Make sure you duplicated the space
molten pecan
3am here lmao
Ah okay ping me tomorrow then
cyan tusk
like space out the sentences?
molten pecan
like space out the sentences?
Idk what you mean by that 😭
long terrace
Is your model a pth file?
Yea, its called "Caleb.pth" and I trained it from another RVC collab.
cyan tusk
Idk what you mean by that 😭
i was talking about your tip T^T
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @cyan tusk level 2 !!!
glad zealot
Yea, its called "Caleb.pth" and I trained it from another RVC collab.
Oh weird did you upload it to huggingface?
median monolith
Make sure you duplicated the space
Btw, i tried to duplicate and use the space, but lets say... that it dint work. Luckily i can just use the normal original space... kinda
molten pecan
Btw, i tried to duplicate and use the space, but lets say... that it dint work. ...
Wait it didn't work?
Why?
glad zealot
I'm using this: https://colab.research.google.com/github/ardha27/AICoverGen-NoUI...
I meant your model
glad zealot
Because the another got disconected.
You can use the GUI version at the pins, it at the very bottom of the pins
It's a modified version of the original to work
long terrace
I meant your model
I uploaded it to Pixeldrain, because the Colab does not accept other than those.
long terrace
You can use the GUI version at the pins, it at the very bottom of the pins
I'll check it then.
steel orbit
Is there a way to train AI using an AMD graphics instead of a NVIDIA?
median monolith
Because of this @molten pecan
later i tried to restart it again and... nothing even happened, i waited and there was just white on the page
molten pecan
later i tried to restart it again and... nothing even happened, i waited and the...
Try it another browser
Or turn on desktop mode, click the three dots on the upper right corner and Restart the space
median monolith
I was doing that on desktop mode
tribal cosmos
what should i put these at i have a 3080
molten pecan
I was doing that on desktop mode
Try restarting the space
molten pecan
what should i put these at i have a 3080
tribal cosmos
<#1159290038115389571>
u cant send pics in that channel
molten pecan
u cant send pics in that channel
😦
molten pecan
Ah no idea
I don't know how to make models
Ask on the other channel and say it via text
Ask*
No need to send an inage
tribal cosmos
ohh ok
molten pecan
Image
cyan tusk
btw whats an svc voice? any different from the regular rvc?
ember crow
btw whats an svc voice? any different from the regular rvc?
-svc
cyan tusk
its that bad? 😭
ember crow
svc is dead
cyan tusk
oooooh
brittle wing
so it isnt replaying the voice changer its just putting out my voice
median monolith
Or turn on desktop mode, click the three dots on the upper right corner and Rest...
I go to the 3 dots and this is what appears 😐
and if i restart the space via the settings button, it still only shows this
molten pecan
and if i restart the space via the settings button, it still only shows this
It's loading
That's a good thing
It will stay like that for a few minutes
Also charge your phone
😭😭😭
median monolith
It will stay like that for a few minutes
Hmm, i see... i shouldnt be impatient 🤦♂️
molten pecan
can someone walk me through the basic steps?
-rvc
azure marshBOT
RVC Guides (How to Make AI Cover)
Suggestions for @safe pike
safe pike
thanks
radiant flare
trying to do
docker login registry.hf.space
docker run -it -p 7860:7860 --platform=linux/amd64 \
registry.hf.space/foo-rvc-v2-huggingface-version:latest python app.py
it has me login, that succeeds
then gives
Unable to find image 'registry.hf.space/foo-rvc-v2-huggingface-version:latest' locally
docker: Error response from daemon: unauthorized: authentication required.
See 'docker run --help'.
docker run hello-world works..
long terrace
When I making a cover with a model maded by myselft I got the message "index -1 is out of bounds for axis 0 with size 0"
Someone know why?
obsidian ravine
trying to make a thingy with these instructions. i already have the model but how do i use the model???
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/830489102620688407/1177849709717622784/Screen_Shot_2023-11-25_at_12.51.23_AM.png?ex=65740106&is=65618c06&hm=ef3f2a4cb43afe93847fc5457768f8fa4fd96e880747f741db7032daad0b5bee&
azure marshBOT
RVC Guides (How to Make AI Cover)
mortal matrix
did you ever fix this?
obsidian ravine
doing the hugging face guide and wondering how do i use the model from weights.gg???
because right now it says 403 forbidden
ember crow
403 means you're not logged in
ember crow
where are you getting 403
obsidian ravine
hugging face
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @obsidian ravine level 1 !!!
vague sapphire
how to do tts?
obsidian ravine
console
vague sapphire
i am using a collab but not workin
ember crow
i am using a collab but not workin
what colab are you using
vague sapphire
obsidian ravine
show me the logs
vague sapphire
i have reply on computer but it kills my laptop
i am trying to use replays trained model for tts
ember crow
what model are you trying to use
obsidian ravine
what model are you trying to use
ember crow
i meant the model you're using
vague sapphire
are there any tts that i can use my own model for ?
ember crow
hang on @obsidian ravine
obsidian ravine
k
ember crow
ember crow
devi
vague sapphire
si
obsidian ravine
<https://huggingface.co/josiauhlol/josiauhRVC/resolve/main/REUPLOAD_GLADOS.zip?d...
worked
vague sapphire
anyone know if there is a way to make tts with a model. i am looking at guides but i dont think i can upload a model
ember crow
so wdym tts
vague sapphire
text to speech
ember crow
do you want to make tts models or tts audio to use with a model
vague sapphire
tts audio to use with a model
i downloaded reply and took the model from there
idk if itll work but thats what i am thinking of doing. and then use that model for tts on collab coz reply kills my laptop
obsidian ravine
<https://huggingface.co/josiauhlol/josiauhRVC/resolve/main/REUPLOAD_GLADOS.zip?d...
ty for your help!!
vague sapphire
windows
ember crow
try searching in C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Replay\com.replay.Replay\models
replace username with your username
vague sapphire
yea i found the model
but the part i am having trouble with is using the model for tts.
ember crow
what colab are you using
vague sapphire
i cant find a text to speech generator
ember crow
ohhh
vague sapphire
i started collab using this
cozi cant run local
no nvdia
i can train data and use the trained one model but cant the model i got . strange
ember crow
try this https://ttstool.com/
vague sapphire
do you know how i can insert the model from
try searching in C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Replay\com.replay.Replay\models?
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @vague sapphire level 6 !!!
ember crow
show me the directory
vague sapphire
long terrace
When I making a cover with a model maded by myselft I got the message "index -1 ...
Help pls.
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @long terrace level 2 !!!
hot lagoon
What dose the UVR-BVE-4B_SN-44100-1
do?
glad zealot
No idea
small tangle
how can i use rvc in discord or can i?
ember crow
how can i use rvc in discord or can i?
-w-okada
-voicechanger
what cmd is this
-cmds
small tangle
# RVC Guides (How to Make AI Cover)
this?
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @small tangle level 1 !!!
azure marshBOT
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half cove
😭
glad zealot
Fck
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proper shale
what do epochs mean
An epoch is basically how many times your dataset has been trained fully.
E.g. 200 epochs
Means the dataset has been trained fully 200 times.
loud owl
An epoch is basically how many times your dataset has been trained fully.
E.g. ...
what are the best gain in/out settings
and tune, index settings
glad zealot
That's voice changer but my gain is not changed and tune and index depends on you
Your voice
M->F 12
F->M -12
F->F/M->M 0
But it does still depend on your voice that's just the default that works on most people
proper shale
what are the best gain in/out settings
depends on your mic lol
proper shale
and tune, index settings
index, in case you wanna use it (because it consumes way too many resources), keep at 0,3 to 0,5
latent kettle
How much time is the Google colab offer a free runtime ?
uneven holly
So I used kits ai to try my voice model but for some songs the model sound was very low
final tundra
How do I search Models
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @final tundra level 1 !!!
proper shale
So I used kits ai to try my voice model but for some songs the model sound was v...
...just don't use it
proper shale
How do I search Models
#🔍│find-models , type /search
uneven holly
...just don't use it
Idk it's so simple but the limit is kinda bad
proper shale
Idk it's so simple but the limit is kinda bad
rvc is basically the same in terms of GUI lol
that's the thing
uneven holly
OK then
copper pebble
Mj
proper shale
and duplicate that space
uneven holly
yeah, use ilaria rvc or rvc-hf
OK thanks for the tip
copper pebble
;)
training rn
1 epoch is taking 22s
300 epochs with 15 min dataset seems good watchu think??
proper shale
bro go for 500
copper pebble
??
proper shale
alright listen up
copper pebble
i should really do that
proper shale
so
copper pebble
alright listen up
kk
proper shale
on a training session, your goal should be to hit certain milestones
500 epochs is the first milestone
check the graphs to see if it's overtraining.
is it good? hooray, continue
750
good? continue
1000
good? ...continue
copper pebble
if is not i just stop the cell right??
proper shale
1250?
continue
copper pebble
got it
proper shale
and then break the space time continuum
proper shale
if is not i just stop the cell right??
yeah basically
if ur training on colab try training for 1hr30 max
per session
to make sure u wont lose everything
proper shale
it's simple
copper pebble
g e d??
copper pebble
then i just run resume cells in another colab or?
proper shale
yeah resume cells in ur next training session
copper pebble
got it
silver bobcat
yo guys what is best app to change voice for bad laptop
ember crow
using rvc or not?
silver bobcat
yes
silver bobcat
idk but i know that u need a good pc 
slate gust
check here <#1159513888199540817>
but wich one should i click
ember crow
do you have an nvidia gpu
ember crow
but wich one should i click
one that mentions training
slate gust
do you have an nvidia gpu
i have gtx 1050 ti
copper pebble
i have gtx 1050 ti
not enough
silver bobcat
does 3070 enough
slate gust
oh
silver bobcat
i got that card but im using laptop 
copper pebble
seems like ull need to use colab
silver bobcat
sad
slate gust
seems like ull need to use colab
is colab bad?
ember crow
is colab bad?
no not really
uneven holly
i uploaded a model to hugginface but when i try to upload the model in rvc v2 it says error
copper pebble
-colab
azure marshBOT
copper pebble
@slate gust 2nd and 3rd
slate gust
ok
copper pebble
theres a guide for rvc disconnected
slate gust
tnx
copper pebble
check here #1159513888199540817
copper pebble
i uploaded a model to hugginface but when i try to upload the model in rvc v2 it...
where r u trying to upload it??
silver bobcat
why when i use voice change it work but not work in call
ember crow
why when i use voice change it work but not work in call
so a w-okada situation
uneven holly
where r u trying to upload it??
copper pebble
https://huggingface.co/spaces/Clebersla/RVC_V2_Huggingface_Version
give me ur model link
lemme see if u copyed the right one
proud elbow
why when i use voice change it work but not work in call
3070 is good already but you need to refer this for correct settings
https://rentry.co/W-Okada-FAQ
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @proud elbow level 9 !!!
copper pebble
this is the pth download link
u need to put both pth and index in a folder and zip it
then upload that folder on hf
uneven holly
oh
any program that i can put only the zip file without uploading it to hugginface?
copper pebble
any program that i can put only the zip file without uploading it to hugginface?
wdym
if u mean where to upload ur zip (alternatives)
there are many
brittle wing
for https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XuxQYiqEhYrdYeCZRRLrmV_ciMKo0bV-jTCGHu_-5Cc/edit
wdym by the dataset zip file (rvc disconnected)
copper pebble
if u mean where to upload ur zip (alternatives)
drive, media, mega etc..
copper pebble
for https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XuxQYiqEhYrdYeCZRRLrmV_ciMKo0bV-jTCGHu_-...
just zip ur dataset
and then upload it in the "rvc disconnected" folder that pops up in "my drive"
brittle wing
what does it mean by dataset like .wav's?
copper pebble
what does it mean by dataset like .wav's?
your wavs putted all in a folder
zip it then
brittle wing
alright
copper pebble
and then upload it in the "rvc disconnected" folder that pops up in "my drive"
then do this
brittle wing
alright thanks
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @brittle wing level 1 !!!
copper pebble
alright thanks
yw
copper pebble
How can find it
-
/search command in #🔍│find-models
-
weights.gg (website)
uneven holly
-colab
azure marshBOT
copper pebble
Hi i want AE model
if u cant find there either it means that it doesnt exist
grizzled bane
- <#1175430844685484042>
- /search command in <#1163592055830880266>
- weight...
Thanks
hot lagoon
how dose Ilaria UVR work?
grizzled bane
What is the best voice changing app?
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @grizzled bane level 1 !!!
copper pebble
What is the best voice changing app?
#1159513888199540817 check here (owada)
copper pebble
how dose Ilaria UVR work?
just put ur audio
hot lagoon
But what modles dose it use?
azure marshBOT
RVC Guides (How to Make AI Cover)
latent kettle
Why I'm getting this?
grizzled bane
<#1159513888199540817> check here (owada)
I instal Applio
but i don't under .. any think
any simple app can i use?
copper pebble
Why I'm getting this?
just click on the refresh button multiple times
copper pebble
any simple app can i use?
ure on mobile??
grizzled bane
ure on mobile??
no
copper pebble
but i don't under .. any think
cant really understand what this means
copper pebble
any simple app can i use?
those in the guide are the one i know
latent kettle
Can someone tell me how analyse this graph
copper pebble
fck wrong chat
lmfao
merry spindle
what do i do here
someone please answer
guys
@copper pebble srry if this is annoying but can you help?44
tame mica
lol
merry spindle
i made models when making models was easier
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @merry spindle level 5 !!!
copper pebble
<@1065579511183310939> srry if this is annoying but can you help?44
i dont usually use the easy colab
tame mica
imo the easy colab is better than disconnected
copper pebble
imo the easy colab is better than disconnected
its better
copper pebble
what do i do here
btw i think u need to paste your dataset path
merry spindle
where do i put the dataset.
audios is so i can test the voice
should i just use rvc disconnected since im KIND of more used to it?
whatever i will
copper pebble
u can use it
tame mica
where do i put the dataset.
it literally creates a folder called dataset that u can put in the audios for training....
merry spindle
it literally creates a folder called dataset that u can put in the audios for tr...
that doesnt exist
tame mica
that doesnt exist
iN THE COLAB
merry spindle
im busyyyyy
proud elbow
where do i put the dataset.
you probably used different, older RVC disconnected, try the newer v2 one
https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1XIPCP9ken63S7M6b5ui1b36Cs17sP-NS#scrollTo=GpjFLdlRFlcA
tame mica
you probably used different, older RVC disconnected, try the newer v2 one
https:...
no it's not rvc disconnected
merry spindle
you probably used different, older RVC disconnected, try the newer v2 one
https:...
that was easygui
im training right now everything is fine
tame mica
My geting so close to lairia uvr in google clobe
it literally has a GUI which is impossible to use in colab free tier
but so far looks quite decent
proper shale
it literally has a GUI which is impossible to use in colab free tier
actually quite possible, just has to be hidden
tame mica
"hidden"?
hot lagoon
testing it
sand iris
What the fuck is going on anymore
Are we going full circle ?
From python implementation -> colab of the same thing -> eventually gradio (if that wasn't the case already) -> running on hugging face -> back to getting it to run from a notebook ?
hot lagoon
proper shale
.fm
brazen gorgeBOT
hot lagoon
glad zealot
My geting so close to lairia uvr in google clobe
OwO i wanna mod it
finite galleon
My geting so close to lairia uvr in google clobe
Just use the normal uvr colab?
Whats the use of the gui
hot lagoon
Just use the normal uvr colab?
the one in hugging face?
finite galleon
the one in hugging face?
No i meant why ilaria uvr on colab
finite galleon
Ok
tame mica
wrong channel 💀
lmfao
tame mica
OwO i wanna mod it
a fork of a fork of a fork??? 
finite galleon
a fork of a fork of a fork??? <:shocked:1159360273904316467>
Applio moment
glad zealot
a fork of a fork of a fork??? <:shocked:1159360273904316467>
yes
hot lagoon
OwO i wanna mod it
by want you mean mod it 
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @hot lagoon level 9 !!!
copper pebble
Can you send link to Iralia RVC
zealous shuttle
uhh is this good or bad progress? i'm using flac dataset like in the guide
latent kettle
Can someone explain how to analyse this graph?
zealous shuttle
it keeps 0%
finite galleon
it keeps 0%
Its fine
torpid python
@devout cloak
rare gobletBOT
Ayo? @devout cloak level 2 !!!
torpid python
I don't get it
It works for me
I just downloaded it
If youre using an online GUI, just copy the link
If you're using a local GUI, download the zip file I just sent
@devout cloak
devout cloak
i am on iphone bruh
torpid python
Im on samsung rn.
plucky geyser
I'll give it another shot and report back
were you able to replicate the issue or does it just work?
I switched to mangio to no avail
torpid python
Yes
sand iris
were you able to replicate the issue or does it just work?
Haven't tried yet
devout cloak
Please try again on a computer
i don’t have one
torpid python
...how
devout cloak
i think it’s a scam tho
sand iris
tame mica
NO FUCKING WAY 😭😭
torpid python
Its not, it just sounds like iphone sucks for this
torpid python
Wiat what
devout cloak
oh
torpid python
Oh my fucking god
devout cloak
is rvc even a mod app?
torpid python
Im blind
plucky geyser
Haven't tried yet
I'll just keep trying things, although im not sure what to try
devout cloak
is rvc even a mod app?
let me search it up
torpid python
These arent minecraft mods @devout cloak
devout cloak
These arent minecraft mods <@915352696947630080>
they work tho
torpid python
These are voice models for AI voice changers
Theyre not for minecraft
Bro...
How did you even get here
Who sent you here
devout cloak
Who sent you here
i found it on yt
apparently you can get a villiger to talk
so i did
i want a villiger to talkkkkk
torpid python
How old are you
devout cloak
…
torpid python
Also link the youtube video
tender eagle
please watch the full video before doing anything
devout cloak
what video
edgy glen
.....
half cove
🤑
edgy glen
@devout cloak explain
devout cloak
<@915352696947630080> explain
explain what
sage matrix
i am appalled
edgy glen
Like what's the problem
tame mica
i am flabbergasted
tame mica
BRO IS ON A MINECRAFT ADDON APP
^^^^
edgy glen
i am trying to make a villiger talk
Pardon me but what the fuck
edgy glen
it’s a mod i think
No no it's not
devout cloak
may you help?
edgy glen
I'll explain it the best i can
tender eagle
It's not a mod, again, please finish watching the video you sent before doing anything
sage matrix
rvc is a voice modifying programm for computers (badly simplified)
rvc is not a minecraft mod / addon
voice models are supposed to be used with rvc
voice models are NOT supposed to be used with anything else (especially minecraft)
tender eagle
https://youtu.be/OHJuaJukhCI?si=hbREWXpx5j3ZE163
^^^^ this video ^^^^
edgy glen
It's not related to Minecraft at all
devout cloak
^^^^ this video ^^^^
i watched where the villiger talks
edgy glen
It's a seperate thing called AI voice
devout cloak
and how to get it to talk
tender eagle
i watched where the villiger talks
therefore you didn't watch the full video
devout cloak
It's a seperate thing called AI voice
how do i get that
devout cloak
therefore you didn't watch the full video
yea but i didn’t need to
edgy glen
Basically you use ai to sound like a villager or anything else via using certain models
tender eagle
it's not a mod, it's a program for PC, not mobile, that allows you to convert voices to other voices
devout cloak
all i needed to hear is the villigers
tender eagle
yea but i didn’t need to
I- ...what?
edgy glen
how do i get that
Actually wait
devout cloak
talking
edgy glen
Are you on pc?
tame mica
no
edgy glen
Just tell me I'm curious
tame mica
he's on iphone
edgy glen
Please try to understand what clip is trying to say
astral jungle
Yo
edgy glen
Sup
torpid python
@devout cloak
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The videos the guy makes is staged, he uses AI to pretend the villagers are talking but its edited
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The video he sent teaches you how to use AI to sound like a villager, not how to make the villagers talk
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This is using the voice changer software he linked in the video description. At NO POINT do you modify minecraft game files or put any villager.zip files into minecraft
proper shale
^^^
tender eagle
<@915352696947630080>
1. The videos the guy makes is staged, he uses AI to pre...
additionally, you can't do something like this on a phone (or well, you can but it's not intuitive, especially given your apparent skills on tech).
edgy glen
Just so you know
true vortex
but it’s not working
this is why i am not a helper anymore
true vortex
<@915352696947630080>
1. The videos the guy makes is staged, he uses AI to pre...
still surprised about how much patience you guys have
i would've already snapped and started being snarky sarcastic trolling piece of shit
proper shale
lmaoooo
it's hard but you gotta have that patience because one day you could have the same questions
in a different thing
true vortex
how do i make minecraft rocks talk
edgy glen
^^^^
fluid matrix
https://youtu.be/OHJuaJukhCI?si=hbREWXpx5j3ZE163
if you would have watched the first 30s of the video you wouldnt need our help rn
edgy glen
I blame the youtuber who fooled them
torpid python
still surprised about how much patience you guys have
This kid is 7, theres no point snapping
tame mica
lol
fluid matrix
he didnt even watch the fucking video and then complains
torpid python
Also this is very entertaining ngl
fluid matrix
30 SECONDS
dense crane
Wouldn't be surprised if he was underage 
true vortex
This kid is 7, theres no point snapping
i'm afraid of children
plus, they somehow manage to frustrate me by simply talking
torpid python
Hey now you were a dumb kid too once upon a time
dense crane
Hey now you were a dumb kid too once upon a time
No not really lmao
true vortex
but im sm0rt now
torpid python
I used to watch minecraft mod showxcases until my brain went numb
dense crane
I was at a 6th grade reading level in 2nd grade 
tame mica
true vortex
I used to watch minecraft mod showxcases until my brain went numb
in my days minecraft modding was never invented sadly
well, kinda
torpid python
I was at a 6th grade reading level in 2nd grade <:shrug:1159570387953258616>
And now look at you
true vortex
nowadays i can't play minecraft without at least 40-50 mods
edgy glen
i'm afraid of children
plus, they somehow manage to frustrate me by simply talki...
Yeah same
Those mofos in my basement can't stop crying
Like come on just lemme do business
tame mica
Yeah same
Those mofos in my basement can't stop crying
....there's children in your basement...???
true vortex
btw guys who wanna come watch me suffer in minecraft's modpack gregtech new horizons?
(related to rvc 100%)
tame mica
real
edgy glen
....there's children in your basement...???
There aren't any in yours..... ???