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Hmm weird
Btw @stoic cloud what is the best target sample rate to use
48k but i did here it can cause buzzing
so i'd say 40k is safer
What is the difference
40k doesnt cause buzzing
What do you mean by buzzing?
probably like a buzz sounds in the bg of the model
I see
I always just use 40K
I wish I could just stop the training Lol
Maybe it's a bug Idk
40khz
I saw people using a graph to see wich epoch has the best trained voice model. Doesn't RVC local have something like that or do you just have to compare
@potent root how do i know what part of the graph is which epoch
Tensorboard can be installed and run locally.
What version of RVC do you have?
RVC-beta0717
Ah, I still have that one...
Doesn't seem like an "installer" or a "launcher" came with it.
Installing Tensorboard locally for RVC
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ihvqWnSyabvZ9jX6BsOxEY1FpplwjY3Jse3she_VO6I/edit
the graph's points are measured in steps
when you look in the pths that you have in the weights folder
they are also notated with steps
yea i realized
i just finished training and stopped at 330 epochs
graph d spikes up outta nowhere and graph g kept going down
im guessing when loss is going up, its overtrained?
Hi everyone, how do I get the vocals from a song if there are several voices? Because when I get the vocals from, for example, fifty fifty - cupid, the voices that sing along are distorted
How does it work
exactly
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!
hi, i think training ended what should i do now?
Tensorboards reads certain files in the folder it's directed to.
The TbL bat file directs it to the logs folder if the bat file is placed in the RVC folder.
Check the cmd. if it says something like "last checkpoint saved" or something along those lines it(s finished. Don't forget to train the index too if you haven't already.
You don't have to do anything with Python yourself though...
Btw I always have the setting Save small final model to weights on yes, and I always use those but are those optimized asking because it saying small
I'll try tomorrow
i got theese two files index and pth where should i head now
What did you use?
Was it done locally or wasit RVC Disconnected or something?
rvc disconnected
If you want to use the model you created, it's AICoverGen-NoWebUI I think if you don't want to infer locally..
i looks a bit more complicated
@wispy burrow i have to pack theese two things like file.zip - file - added.index, mod.pth
?
I haven't used any of the Colabs so I don't really know.
oh
i need to figure it out
this colab feels not working
i got disconnected before starting doing anything
lets try again
I always have the setting Save small final model to weights on yes, and I always use those but are those optimized asking because it saying small
@astral perch has reached level 4.
Since the model inference does not work on Applio, is it ok if I use RVC GUI? Does that support v2 models? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
model training stuff and aivoice thhing can run on that stuff ? CPU: 11th Gen Intel i5-11400F (12) @ 4.400GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
Memory: 4795MiB / 15863MiB
over a thousand seconds and i still have not gotten anything
@reef pier has reached level 2.
what do i do yo
oh please
i'm using the rvc v2 huggingface space
Try reloading it?
Might be slow since more users are using it???
but i'm using a duplicated space
Ahh ye not sure how hugging face works so can't really help with it
well that sucks
well at least my audio file's here
that took literally 2000+ seconds
well the next conversion can't be that bad
getting this weird bug all of a sudden after like 10 seconds of MMVCServerSIO voice changer being open it slowly goes up to 30 seconds of delay and then stops
i am on amd so might be an amd problem
@steep quartz has reached level 1.
Community Models
goku (Goku (English Dub))
luffy (Luffy (English Dub))
mickey (Mickey Mouse)
peter (Peter Griffin)
plankton (Plankton)
spongebob (Spongebob)
squidward (Squidward)
waluigi (Waluigi)
... and 200+ more
Check out all of the public community models at https://www.word.band/voice_models
You can use any model using the model id (bolded) in the /cover command. For example:
/cover model:goku youtube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9FCCiEs84k
To see your private models and register new ones, please start a DM with me!
scp containment breach control is not a registered model! Use /list to list all models, or use /register to register a new model.
This isn't an RVC2 model! Please make sure to use an RVC2 model from AI Hub. (Make sure the model is tagged with RVC v2)
Successfully registered model scp (scp containment breach control)!
Use the model now like this:
/cover model:scp youtube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9FCCiEs84k
Can I use this colab?
yes
works atm so use it while it still works
applio giving this error when trying to run with cli (web interface is bugged)
@shy monolith has reached level 2.
I'm not familiar with the applio CLI, but I suggest feeding it all the arguments it's asking for
looking at the code, the code for the cli literally does not have enough arguments for the function its calling
im facing either figuring out how to fix the function
or fix the web interface
neither of which is rather appealing to me
@brittle wing has reached level 3.
ok fuck this im just reinstalling applio
Wait give link
Oh lmao it bypasses the cloning repository thing so it doesnt get detected
Also bypass the downloading models and webui launch
alr after training is over what do i do with these files to make my model sharable?
can i use this format in making datasets?
yes
?
or maybe g drive
go to weights folder, download the latest pth
that doesnt support on the gradio tho
and download index from logs
then upload to huggingface
-huggingface
• Posting models to AI Hub by FDG
^^^
thankss
oh so the .pth in the weights is the one that i share
i mean
use to share
alr
yeah!
thanks
G/D are training files
iirc pixeldrain works on that
500 epochs for 15 mins of recordings enough?
yup
Guys, how can help with Applio API?
has anyone got doja cat model ??
so uhh.. problem
the .pth files for all my installed model thingies won't show up
happened after updating RVC. Kept around the logs/weights folders
it manages to find all the index files, but it doesn't find any of the pth files
im using the RVC WebUI
is RVC/weights no longer the folder you're supposed to add all the pth files?
OH WEIRD
@remote mesa has reached level 1.
It's moved to assets/weights apparently
how to see how much epochs are in a model?
This is the graph of the model I'm currently training. Should I stop it now?
Hello. Has Google Colab done changes that makes it pretty much difficult to do RVC covers using Colab?
they've made changes, but we adapted
-colab
Google Colabs
RVC
- AI-Cover-Gen-No-UI (inference only)
- RVC v2 Disconnected (training only)
🌐 Translated colabs
- PT-BR:
-colabs_br
Audio Separation/Isolation
Ok. Thank you
@fluid slate has reached level 1.
ayo guys i have question, when i want to resume because it looks like it goes from 1 again
You have to find the G and D of your model
Which should be in logs/name/here-are-they
Make sure to do a new name for the model
too late
my files didnt even save
i searched in drive
after i go disconnected i lost all
@stoic cloud i have one question, after getting .pth and .index files what should i do
The model is done. Now you can synthesize using those two files
-colab
Google Colabs
RVC
- AI-Cover-Gen-No-UI (inference only)
- RVC v2 Disconnected (training only)
🌐 Translated colabs
- PT-BR:
-colabs_br
Audio Separation/Isolation
AI Cover Gen No UI
then i should put them
in one file
like model/.pth , .index ?
zipped?
nvm i found i think
You have to put them in a zip and then put the url in there
C:\RVC0813Nvidia>runtime\python.exe gui_v1.py --pycmd runtime\python.exe
2023-10-14 19:16:38 | WARNING | xformers | A matching Triton is not available, some optimizations will not be enabled.
Error caught was: No module named 'triton'
2023-10-14 19:16:38 | WARNING | xformers | Triton is not available, some optimizations will not be enabled.
This is just a warning: No module named 'triton'
Found GPU NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 , force to fp32
input device:5:Headset Microphone (Realtek(R) (MME)
output device:12:CABLE Input (VB-Audio Virtual C (MME)
using_cuda:True
gin_channels: 256 self.spk_embed_dim: 109
<All keys matched successfully>
Exception in thread Thread-1:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "threading.py", line 980, in _bootstrap_inner
File "threading.py", line 917, in run
File "C:\RVC0813Nvidia\gui_v1.py", line 476, in soundinput
with sd.Stream(
File "C:\RVC0813Nvidia\runtime\lib\site-packages\sounddevice.py", line 1800, in init
_StreamBase.init(self, kind='duplex', wrap_callback='array',
File "C:\RVC0813Nvidia\runtime\lib\site-packages\sounddevice.py", line 898, in init
_check(_lib.Pa_OpenStream(self._ptr, iparameters, oparameters,
File "C:\RVC0813Nvidia\runtime\lib\site-packages\sounddevice.py", line 2745, in _check
raise PortAudioError(errormsg, err, hosterror_info)
sounddevice.PortAudioError: Error opening Stream: Unanticipated host error [PaErrorCode -9999]: 'Неизвестная внешняя ошибка.' [MME error 1]
Help
Мира, не туда написала
Which software do we download if we want our gpu to power the ai creation?
my error is: "is not recognized as an internal or external command operable program or batch file"
anybody know why this is happening? I alr tried reinstalling with pip https://pastebin.com/hcqfXd1X
(applio)
ima test if cover gen no ui gets disconnected rq
RVC
Thank you and what link specifically?
-rvc
RVC Guides (How to Make AI Cover)
🇺🇸 English Documentation
Credits: AI HUB France
🇺🇸 English FAQ
Credits: AI HUB France
🍏 Applio-RVC-Fork: Guide
Link: Google Docs
Credits: IA Hispano
How to install RVC on windows
Link: YouTube
Credits: iroaK
RVC v2 Tutorial for Paperspace
Link: Google Docs
Credits: LollenApe
- 🇫🇷 French Documentation
- 🇮🇹 Italian Guides or
-it_g - 🇷🇺 Russian FAQ for RVC/Voice changer
- 🇧🇷 RVC Guides in PT-BR (
-rvc_br)
Thanks a ton for your help
can you help with ai voice model problem
pls
@heavy wolf has reached level 2.
my error is: "is not recognized as an internal or external command operable program or batch file"
my error is
runtime\python.exe trainset_preprocess_pipeline_print.py "C:\data set up\dataset\dataset_raw\maskoy" 40000 16 C:\Users\e n iyi pc\Downloads\RVC-beta-v2-0528\RVC-beta-v2-0528/logs/maskoy False
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\en iyi pc\Downloads\RVC-beta-v2-0528\RVC-beta-v2-0528\trainset_preprocess_pipeline_print.py", line 20, in <module>
f = open("%s/preprocess.log" % exp_dir, "a+")
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'C:\Users\en/preprocess.log'
mine doesnt even work and nobody responds whenever i bring it up ;-;
where is the step count?
Step count is not there, but that's fine since epochs are all that matter
Steps = your amount of wavs / batch size
I've been making AI Spongebob songs (originals not covers) I'm not very good at this AI stuff but using google colabs I havent had any issues just using uploading my raw vocals n turning them too characters but ever since the OG disc got nuked no matter what settings I use, nor what method the vocals always sound chopped with alternating volumes, I'm stumped does anyone have any ideas?? (sorry if this is the wrong chat)
i love ai cover gen (lie)
anyone tell me when make covers ?
@frail cave has reached level 2.
you're trying to use the local AICoverGen, right?
yep
wanted to give it a try as well but I hate dependencies
it never works for me lol
I'll probably try it one day, but the first requirement is Python 3.9 I think
and I have 3.11 on my pc 
i have 3.9 so idk what its issue with me is 💀
You're using 3.10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCO0JLbaC5g&t=230s Does anyone have these models or can send me them?
Not really the place to ask this.
But check weights.gg.
It has numerous Sonic Models.
Today
I would use applio if your a beginner
no help just this
tim really helping jus to beat mj
I would suggest mangio though...
Applio has mangio
I mean RVC-Mangio.
Why’s that?
Many people had issues with the Applio installer(s).
Some still do with the latest installer.
That's the one reason I'd suggest Mangio for newcomers.
It's just Download zip, extract zip & and run Go-web.
Anyone with good/decent knowledge of running RVC 2 locally ? Need some help real quick
What’s the issue?
hell is that
@late comet has reached level 1.
Keep in mind that I'm r_tarded in this context, when start Go_web I get this "C:\Windows\system32>runtime\python.exe infer-web.py --pycmd runtime\python.exe --port 7897
The system cannot find the path specified.
C:\Windows\system32>pause
Press any key to continue . . .
"
Applio-RVC.
An altered version of (regular) RVC
Are you running as admin or something?
If yes, don't
Yep
I've tried regular, I'll try again
You need to install python
Wait I don't have Python ?
It's using runtime so it shouldn't matter
Btw all this is in a different SSD from OS one
Wait is that folder really named ...AI VOICE
No listen
It's no like that
Spaces in the file name break it
Fuck Im retarded
New Folder as well
Nah it's alright lol
It shouldn't break to begin with. Just that it's somewhat wonky
@balmy prawn has reached level 3.
Don’t know

can yall help with this
Maybe folder should be in the root of the ssd ?
Anti virus being an issue?
Where'd you download it from ?
I'm not even sure how the anti virus thinks that's a threat
Yeah that's the right one
-rvc
RVC Guides (How to Make AI Cover)
🇺🇸 English Documentation
Credits: AI HUB France
🇺🇸 English FAQ
Credits: AI HUB France
🍏 Applio-RVC-Fork: Guide
Link: Google Docs
Credits: IA Hispano
How to install RVC on windows
Link: YouTube
Credits: iroaK
RVC v2 Tutorial for Paperspace
Link: Google Docs
Credits: LollenApe
- 🇫🇷 French Documentation
- 🇮🇹 Italian Guides or
-it_g - 🇷🇺 Russian FAQ for RVC/Voice changer
- 🇧🇷 RVC Guides in PT-BR (
-rvc_br)
-rvc
RVC Guides (How to Make AI Cover)
🇺🇸 English Documentation
Credits: AI HUB France
🇺🇸 English FAQ
Credits: AI HUB France
🍏 Applio-RVC-Fork: Guide
Link: Google Docs
Credits: IA Hispano
How to install RVC on windows
Link: YouTube
Credits: iroaK
RVC v2 Tutorial for Paperspace
Link: Google Docs
Credits: LollenApe
- 🇫🇷 French Documentation
- 🇮🇹 Italian Guides or
-it_g - 🇷🇺 Russian FAQ for RVC/Voice changer
- 🇧🇷 RVC Guides in PT-BR (
-rvc_br)
-colab
Google Colabs
RVC
- AI-Cover-Gen-No-UI (inference only)
- RVC v2 Disconnected (training only)
🌐 Translated colabs
- PT-BR:
-colabs_br
Audio Separation/Isolation
@nocturne mural yo
does applio fork have proper support for m1/m2 mac?
even on mangio-crepe?
or is that considered unsupported
@outer epoch has reached level 1.
I don't think so, since I don't have a mac and neither do the team members.
dang
i can try nvidia style install and hope MPS / metal passthrough works as intended
or, worst case, i just have my guy install official RVC since that should have a working install script
it may work
the thing is that we don't really know how well it goes on mac

can anyone help
@prisma kettle has reached level 1.
command
can someone help me
why the voice is always delayed to me
and the application is lagging
but my gpu is rtx 3050
@uneven mantle has reached level 1.
-colab
Google Colabs
RVC
- AI-Cover-Gen-No-UI (inference only)
- RVC v2 Disconnected (training only)
🌐 Translated colabs
- PT-BR:
-colabs_br
Audio Separation/Isolation
Hi guys
I need help
when I want to make a voice, an error pops up
traceack error
traceback*
is anyone able to help me?
@cedar cedar has reached level 1.
God bless.
What does steps mean in the name of the voice models?
how do i add dataset on the applio colab / gradio?
@brittle wing has reached level 1.
@potent root yo does this look good?
Anybody else have their voice sounding fine on their own ( recording or hearing it back ) but when you use it on a discord call your friends say it sounds awful/glitchy?
looks fine
@potent root has reached level 5.
remember to maximize smoothness to 0.999
i had at 0.987
also do i stop training when its at the very top or as soon as it starts going up
when i try, and press "update list" nothing comes out
@potent root rlly sorry for pinging btw
hello, how many epochs should i do for 6 minutes of audio?
depends on tensorboard
sorry but i know literally nothing about this and im trying to clone my voice and i used a tutorial that was linked on this server and it said to put the epochs depending on the length of my audio files, and i didn't know what to do, sorry
stop training when it goes up for a while
i tried with 500 which was the already set number but the only thing that came out in my drive was a logs zip
also im using rvc disconnected
if that helps
alri. thanks man you've been incredibly helpful
Try getting the pth file from around the 2k mark since that seems to be the lowest, but you are free to continue training it
its supposed to be like that
and i use wav, so can anyone help??
flyleaf tought me this g/total thing on tensorboard
so its supposed to be low like that
I think if you stop the training, it should be able to resume it
i haven't tried it myself tho
also are u using colab?
I forgot exactly but you're using colab you need to save the G and D first then move them back to where they are from when you need to resume iirc
So I will be able to get it
I forgot where the guide for that is sadly
how long is your dataset
7min
you could prolly go for abt 450 - 500 epochs
350
i only find rvcLogs.zip in "My Drive > rvcDisconnected > (my model name)" what do i do?
@dusk oracle has reached level 1.
ill just try redoing everything again
anyone can solve this?
delete pretrain and model_dir folders
and restart start http
guys
i need some help
Exception Traceback (most recent call last)
<ipython-input-1-159ffb84dd67> in <cell line: 48>()
47
48 if not os.path.exists(dataset_path):
---> 49 raise Exception(f'I can't find {dataset} in {os.path.dirname(dataset_path)}.')
50
51 os.makedirs(final_directory, exist_ok=True)
Exception: I can't find audios1.zip in /content/drive/MyDrive/rvcDisconnected.
it says that?
Quick question, hearing myself with the realtime voice changer in the mangio software works just fine. But when I use it through discord, everyone says it sounds very choppy and robotic. Does anyone know what the issue could be? I turn off the noise gate and not have noise supression on in the discord settings
whats the best settings
Which RVC
idk
That really doesn’t help
do you know if theres a way i can hear myself?
what program are you using
real time voice change
@oblique mason has reached level 2.
Okada or RVC Real-time
real time
Send ss
Before I help you, does the voice changer even work for you
yes
when i do that my voice changer echos other peoples voice and changes it too
That’s because the microphone is picking up on the headphones
Or monitor
If your not using headphones
Im using headphones do you know how to fix that?
Turn down in maybe?
I tried it still copies people
Don’t know then
alr thanks for trying
has anyone having issues with voicemy.ai cus mines got jammed
i have a error model stuck and i can't delete it
and i was gonna train another rvc model which that also having errors
can you train on linux?
THIS IS THE VOICE PLS ANYONE TRAIN A MODEL WITH THIS VOICE AND SHARE ME
this one
HOW CAN I ADD HUGGING FACE LINK
@open ruin has reached level 2.
Is this local
Cuz I'm pretty sure you have to download the model and put it a certain folder
its local
Yeah I think you should look at the local guide
It should tell you how
@pliant crescent has reached level 10.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OJPN9g359vrmw1qRhkarU319OLo6h2D0/view?usp=drive_link this is the link pls anyone create me a model with this voice and share me index and path file pls
@pliant crescent i just want to train
Oh yeah
There's also a guide for that
@pliant crescenti did train model locally it trained fully but i only have 4 gb graphics card so its not making me a path file its getting stopped which i need its only giving index file
Get a better GPU then
Or use the No Webui Colab
its constantly disconnects
@open ruin has reached level 3.
Maybe someone uses Applio and got this error? An error occurred in the feature extraction, make sure you have provided the audios correctly.
C:\Users*\Documents\ROD-v1.0.1_rod.py:10: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '_'
print("""
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users*\Documents\ROD-v1.0.1_rod.py", line 1, in <module>
import gdown
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'gdown'
When trying to run ROD.bat for the Automatic Overtraining Detector I'm getting this error message even though I have gdown installed.
How do I make it so I can hear myself?
Can I continue training a model on a different Colab than the one I started training on?
@steady ruin has reached level 2.
idk you gotta try it yourself
ok
haven't tried it before but
https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1r4IRL0UA7JEoZ0ZK8PKfMyTIBHKpyhcw?authuser=1#scrollTo=Vc01O8jLgcFW cause I was using this one
and now I'm trying to resume training with RVC Disconnected
(linked in the info channel)
ehhhh nk
it aint gonna work
i tried
shit
how do I continue training with the one I used first?
Insert the same settings
Except for stuff like save frequency and total training epochs
You could change those
But everything else is the same
And don't process data or feature extract again
Thing is, that Colab is probably restricted, from my knowledge.
well I got disconnected after training for 3 hours and 12 minutes
so idk
@proper shale sorry for the ping but do you use UVR?
Nope
ahh ok no worries, I need someone to go through the small uvr guide i made to confirm or add anything lol
oh
uh no
had to repost it here again lol
@low shard I had to retype all of this again but this is what I got from my testing with UVR
ree
forgot discord deleted edited messages lol
Please let me know if you feel like anything needs to be added or removed from this, I will do my own testing and see how the results are
UVR (Ultimate Vocal remover)
Click on the wrench icon next to start processing to open the settings of UVR, go to the download center and download the needed stuffs
MDX-net MDX23C InstVoc HQ is only available on UVR 5.6
Vocals
Removing instrumental from vocals, try one of the following (Check Vocals only)
- MDX-net MDX23C InstVoc HQ
- MDX-net Kim Vocal 2
- MDX-net Voc FT
Removing harmonies from vocals, try one of the following (Check vocals / No others only)
- MDX-net Karaoke 2
- VR-Arch 5_HP-Karaoke
Removing reverb from your vocals, try one of the following (Check no others only / No reverb only)
- MDX-net Reverb HQ
- VR-arc DeReverb / VR-arc DeEcho-DeReverb
Removing weird noise/hissing/artifacting sounds after removing reverb/echo, try the following (Check no others / No noise only)
- VR-arc DeNoise
Instrumentals
Removing vocals from instrumentals, try one of the following (Check Instrumentals only)
- MDX-net MDX23C InstVoc HQ
- MDX-net Voc ft
- MDX-net Inst HQ 3
Retaining Original Samplerate (tested on a 20khz sample rate audio and the audio was still 20khz after seperation)
- MDX-net MDX23C InstVoc HQ or MDX-net Kim Vocal 2
- MDX-net Karaoke 2
- MDX-net Reverb HQ
- VR-arc DeNoise lite
Please note that some of these might work better than others so test and see which works best for your audios
sorry for being kinda spammy lol
Thank you for all this
I wilk put the important ones in my guide later
which option is the best for vocal removal?
anyone knows how to delete pretrain and model_dir folders ?
What's the issue?
You just delete them 
i use MDX Net models the most
but the other options are good too
isolation quality isn't based on the option you choose from that list, but whatever model you choose
voc ft is the best model for vocal isolation & removal i think
You using the realtime voice changer right ?
yup
You unzipped a folder named MMVCServerSIO, and the folders to delete are within that
thats all ?
Yeah
👍
Anyone know how this works?
is it normal if the index makes the voice come out more robotic ?
hold on @red kayak does training with v2 mean training with this or this option
cause i feel like i confused it a bit
yeah haha
former or latter
does it mean training with RVC-beta-v2-0528 or the v2 model arch
RVC-beta-v2-0528 is just the version of the build
yeah i haven't updated it in a while
so training with the v2 model arch
means v2
gotcha
v2 model arch is basically the v2 weights
where can i download the latest build again
yeah but make sure to check v2
-rvc
Hey, @golden elm!
👇 Here are some useful resources to help you learn how to make ai covers
🇺🇸 English Documentation
Credits: AI HUB France
🇺🇸 English FAQ
Credits: AI HUB France
🍏 Applio-RVC-Fork: Guide
Link: Google Docs
Credits: IA Hispano
How to install RVC on windows
Link: YouTube
Credits: iroaK
RVC v2 Tutorial for Paperspace
Link: Google Docs
Credits: LollenApe
- 🇫🇷 French Documentation
- 🇮🇹 Italian Guides or
-it_g - 🇷🇺 Russian FAQ for RVC/Voice changer
- 🇧🇷 RVC Guides in PT-BR (
-rvc_br)
hope it helps out 
wrong graph, check the loss/g/total graph
@rancid knoll has reached level 1.
overtraining is when that value goes up
I cant find that one i only see d total
there should be a search bar at the very top
if there isn't, go to the "scalars" tab
Found it
that's the graph you should look at to see overtraining
in this graph for example ~10500 steps is where overtraining began
is the smoothing at .999?
yes
wow that's a weird graph
do i need to change it
but see the dip at around 17k steps?
nah its good
after that dip the loss value starts climbing
that's the point of overtraining
wow so its already overtraining now?
yeah it seems
how can I see what epochs that is
yes
ok so
at the end of each checkpoint file (its in the "weights" folder) it ends with _s(step count).pth
yes
find the file closest to that step count
yeah pretty much
that's fine
@rancid knoll has reached level 2.
i submitted a model at 165 epochs and it sounds fine
you might overtrain or the loss might keep going down
i assume you have a long* dataset?
9 minutes and 31 seconds
ok reasonable
if you have gpu time to spare try training more
if it still goes up though cut your losses
a dip like that might not mean overtraining maybe
so if the graph keeps going up its still overtraining?
yes
like the graph here
I see
it starts gradually going up
And how do you wich dips indicates the start of overtraining cause I see multiple dips in my graph
Alright, thanks
what does the smoothing do?
basically smoothens the graph to make it easier to find stuff
thats what also caught my eye
yeah train this more
so I have no clue
alright
can't really locate overtraining if the graph looks like a heartbeat graph
what are those big blue lines in the background?
that's the graph without smoothing applied to it
okay
@rancid knoll is it normal if index at 1 makes the voice sounds more AI'ish compared to 0.5?
index at 1? sorry i'm not really that good at the inference side of things
index at 1 with okada
ah i've never used okada before
folks at #🔍│help-w-okada will help you though
yeah
the inference model won't accept the d/g models iirc
even if they do you will immeadiately hear why
ok Im training it a bit more since that graph didnt really go up or down at 20k steps
alright happy training! 🙂
Thanks for helping me!
When I train from a checkpoint it says
Grad strides do not match bucket view strides. This may indicate grad was not created according to the gradient layout contract or that the param's strides changed since DDP was constructed. This is not an error but may impair performance.
My epochs are also just training how they normally would
Okay thank you
I used the model on rvc without index to try it out but it sounded really bad
@astral perch has reached level 5.
But on the realtimevoicechanger it soundded pretty good
huh thats weird
@rancid knoll has reached level 3.
back then i almost never used index files and they sounded normal
try 0.5
it seems to be the best
at least for me
Okay!
it seems to have started overtraining at around 19500
can you turn up the smoothing a bit?
alright
hii i was wondering if someone could help me..
im unable to set my gpu setting to actually use my gpu and its stuck using cpu any help would be appreciated !
right here does it list your gpu?
and does it say that it has found your gpu in the terminal?
mine looks nothing like that..
in dms? im unable to send imgs in here lol
yupp
@stoic lintel has reached level 1.
folks over there will help you
the graph is so weird
it can't decide if it wants to go up or down
Isnt it going down at 24
it went up again
i advise keeping smoothing at .999 or .998 until you are absolutely sure its overtraining or the graph seems awfully straight
I saw a tutorial on youtube where someone said that you should pick the model that's the lowest on the graph
12 mins but audio is ripped from game files so its high quality
thats also correct yes
alright thats good to know
but training until the point of overtraining guarantees the lowest loss value anyway
If thats the case shouldn't @mint stag use the at 24k since its the lowest there?
there's no guarantee (yet) that that will be the lowest in the future
Yep
@mint stag has reached level 3.
it might go lower
if it doesn't though that will be the one they should use
yes
Ahhh I see that's why people train it to like 1000 epochs
Exactly
Is there any google colabs that work at this point
@dense marsh has reached level 1.
But then its endlessly because you never know if it will go any lower
some of my models needed 1200 epochs to overtrain but my most recent one needed 165
its a waiting game really
Cuz I can’t do local and I havent made a model in a while
here's the fun part
if it starts overtraining it will never go lower
try the one in the pinned message
i have no idea if it works though
Bet
But when can you absolute sure its overtraining
the point at loss/g/total rises up without going down
you can never be %100 sure but you can be pretty confident
i run it for an extra 150-200 epochs to be really sure but thats because i have a lot of time on my hands
So the higher the epochs doesnt necessarily mean better quality
yeah pretty much
some of my models sound the same at 300, 600 and 1200 epochs
its just they are more fine tuned
if a model is overtrained though you can definetly hear it
I think I'm gonna stop training cause I dont have much time left
thats fine
@rancid knoll has reached level 4.
Also I think it keeps going up
just take the lowest loss at the highest step count and you're good to go
then you should take the model at the point of overtraining
but the lowest is at 16k right
show your d loss
total?
yes
thats right that exists too 🤦♂️
yep overtrained
How can u see that
d loss should mirror g loss
discriminator loss as opposed to generator loss
Wait lemme process thiss lol
yas
Where is it going down on the d loss graph
wdym?
Nvm i see it
so dloss going down means overtraining
and gloss going up means overtraining
so they both need to go up and down for it to mean overtraining
yeah pretty much
but on the dloss graph 20k is still going down
but the gloss graph is going up
Oh yeah right I see
@rancid knoll
so I should get the model thats a bit after the dip or before?
i'd take the lowest around the 24k mark
I already showed it to u
when trying to open applio i get the error "No module named 'rpds'" anybody know a fix?
applio?
yeah that one
Yes
applio is extremely confusing, I recommend using mangio
ah okay
applio is like a cheap knockoff to mangio to be honest
i was just reinstalling stuff because tensorboard on mangio didnt even open for me and nobody was helping
@surreal bridge has reached level 2.
nobody?
but isnt it a mangio fork...
yes, it's a version of it but many people say that mangio performs better than applio
though to answer your question you should run pip install rpds in your terminal
it was giving errors and people either ignored or didnt know how to fix it
alr tried it, didnt work
and tried uninstall and reinstall rpds
im out of solutions then sorry 
what's ur python version? @surreal bridge
i think latest, why? pretty sure applio docs said python was optional as well for some reason
so like 3.12
ah okay, so thats where i messed up ;-;
tbh i think applio recommended 3.9.8 lol
don't use applio....
ok xd
install 3.10 and let me know if tensor board issue is fixed
alr will do
ah i was just about to respond 😅
ill prob just reinstall everything as well because my entire install of mangio is scuffed because of how much i had to change to fix it
you didnt have to delete
;-; i just hope that uninstalling and reinstalling all of my python stuff doesnt break my code too much
hey so is this the right repo? https://github.com/Mangio621/Mangio-RVC-Fork
seems like it
try testing it to see how it sounds
I will now
@astral perch has reached level 6.
and if its good enough you can upload the model here lol
yay mangio install script instantly detected as a virus by bitdefender
;-; i hate my antivirus sometimes it has so many false positives
havent had a ransomware attack yet 😄
i'll try using applio to see what's the fuss about it
3.10.0 or 3.10 latest?
where
or ms store version
3.10 latest should be fine
are there any differences between installer version and ms store version?
use instalelr
Where's the installer from ? I'd trust Microsoft more for that purpose
Since the python org doesn't provide installers for newer security updates of older python versions
rmvpe is the best pitch extractor right?
yeah ive had the best results with it so far
there are some cases where others can be better though
for me crepe is best with songs and rmvpe for speaking
well this is just great, when using mangio as well it gives the rpds error
If you data set is less than 10 I would say mangio crepe would be betetr but if its more than 10 then definately rmvpe (Just my opinion based on experience, not factual)
that's weird...
with the new python version?
with 3.10
the voice is good just some artifacts in the qualty
did you add it to path when installing?
yep
(happened to me before) are you sure mangio is using the right python installation?
have you restartted pc?
oh yes that as well!
oh, no i havent
theres only one version installed
mangio has a runtime/python installation embedded into it
it does?
yeah
is there a way to change it?
in the go_web.bat file replace any "runtime/python.exe" with just "python.exe"
that worked for me
by the way i think when I install the dependencies in requirements.txt it installs the cpu version of torch, do i need to manually install the cuda version?
well i think it does
i had to manually install cuda yeah
rip
it didn't recognize my gpu the first time
how do i know which cuda version to select when installing torch
@surreal bridge has reached level 3.
are you kidding me ive already gone up 2 levels just trying to fix all of the issues im getting xD
thats the rvc experience 😄
its all good ill just guess xd
@surreal bridge you haven't installed cuda manually?
hey i mean a few more levels and i might even get verified so im happy
i have cuda installed but the dependencies.txt installs the cpu version of torch
back then i had some models start out with ~490 loss
@rancid knoll has reached level 5.
congrats
note to self: never delete the pretrained values
also dont delete the folder called mute in the logs folder 
can anyone fix this please? i cant make voice models.....
havent made that mistake before (yet) 😬
edit the "go_web.bat" file and replace any "runtime/python.exe" with "python.exe"
what happens if you do?
what did i do wrong
show me please a video of hou you did it
the program just closes
you didnt do anything wrong, its just that mangio is fucked upon first install
cant really recall but it will mess up a lot of stuff lol
how do i edit the bat file @rancid knoll im so confused
@brittle wing has reached level 5.
hang on im sending a video
also install python version 3.9.8 
im really tempted to delete that folder 
make a backup and test it 
also god damn applio installs a ton of stuff on first run
it still did not work
hmmm
do you have python installed? 
what version?
uninstall it and downgrade to the recommended stable version 3.9.8
okey?
why does python use double \ \
doubt thats whats causing your issue tho, remove any spaces in the names of the folders
since some special chars start with \
like \n \t \r etc
\\ escapes that \
okay now my mangio is even more screwed
uhm
just move the folder to your desktop
i did but i still get the same error message @rancid knoll
try moving the folder inside the folder that ends with (3)
diff error this time, reran the requirements.txt install in pip
alr
thats how i got it fixed
is python added in your system environment variables?
alr it opens now but its still using cpu
now i just gotta change it to gpu version of torch right?
yeah i guess
cuda*
why is mangio so fucked at first start lol
half of the dependencies missing and all that
(applio is even worse)
why cant someone make an easy thing to install
true
currently working with an applio dependency issue 😄
because it has 999999999 dependencies (joke ofc) and most people wont even use all of em
yay my mangio finally works
now i need to figure out how to get tensorboard to work ;-;
this is where it all broke last time
there should be a TBI.bat and a tbL.bat in the folder
run TBI.bat once to install and tbL.bat every time you need to run tensorboard
nah neither are there
@rancid knoll Thanks for helping me i submitted my model
Oh intel and amd stuff is needed, since sometimes in AI stuff just runs on CPU
sorry wrong message
Tensorboard is not something that contributes to learning, because it just shows you what the AI has been doing, so it's completely fine if that runs on CPU
ah okay
also is there a support server for uvr5 models?
hey so idk if this is an issue or not
need a model to take just the piano out of a song
well it seems it worked in the end so i'd just ignore the errors 😄
is there a guide for learning to make models that anybody would recommend? or a sample dataset to learn making them with
For real!
after the dataset is done you can just get up from your computer and go away while it does the hard work 😄
is there like a minimum dataset size or anything
i recommend at least 5 minutes
try to get at least 10-15 though
more is always better
a Minimum of 10 minutes is recommeended.
ah okay
;-; i just realised the audio I have is mixed with a bunch of voicemod soundboards and stuff, that will be annoying to cut out
welcome to model making
nah you can go as long as you like
epochs just take longer yeah
but because more information per epoch gets saved it cancels out
leaving you with a higher quality model
does the dataset being stereo/mono/surround sound make any differences? or is it all converted before training
i mean you can even use mp4 files for the dataset so im pretty sure it doesn't make a difference*
what are good settings for truncating silence in audacity? i have like 2 hours of audio i gotta cut down
or is that the wrong thing
oh noise gate
i havent used audacity much sry :/
oh what do you use?
i usually manually cut audio files
which is bad i know 😄
most of my experience comes from debugging mangio rather than using it
@rancid knoll has reached level 6.
Truncate silence is certainly something you want to do.
Don't have silence that's longer than 0.5 seconds.
So far that's the only thing I've used Audacity for.
alr thanks
@surreal bridge has reached level 4.
Something like UVR (Ultimate Vocal Remover will be very useful too.
It's for isolating vocals and removing echoes/reverb.
Never knew there was a W-Okada colab...
💀
Maybe ask in #🔍│help-w-okada
is there any sort of text to speech software that is good for using with voice models?