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bleak pivot
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ye

warm turret
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in normal mode

winter geode
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Me when I shoot a blank at the dealer, thinking it was a live round

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Me when I see the dealer point the shotgun at me

raw badge
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I just witnessed the dealer shoot himself 3 times in the same round, this game really is player sided in that sense (because the dealer always shoot himself when he doesn't have enough info and item and theres more blanks than live rounds

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No wonder why all the guides says to not ever shoot yourself or make the same mistake 🤣

harsh grotto
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With the hotfix releases I figure it out that the sound between each round has also changed. It's more a monotone sound than before.
And the pump refill sound when it's the dealer's turn has increased slightly.

I'm I the only one who notice it?

cobalt dirge
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aww maaan

kindred meteor
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What's wrong with my grandmas dawg

signal elm
left pawn
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will price go up if multiplayer comes out?

cobalt epoch
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Buckshot roulette 2 when

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Buckshot roulette russian DLC when

manic wyvern
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Buckshot Roulette 2: 2 Buck 2 Shot

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Escape 2 Africa

worthy aspen
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Imagine character costumization in Multyplayer

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I mean

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How we would look like ?

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Probably Giant Sphere with Hands

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Or the main character from SuperHot

cobalt epoch
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SUPER
HOT
SUPER
HOT
SUPER
HOT

cobalt epoch
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guess who lost on round 18 out of 18 🙂

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the dealer took the medicine and healed THREE TIMES INA ROW

sour tulip
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You should have stopped when you could

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But now you must go all-in

tawdry otter
trim hull
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Guys, what if, hear me out, buckshot roulette, but with a revolver, since revolvers are seen as more fancy and stylish than a shotgun? I'm sure no one has ever thought of this idea before

bronze olive
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🤨

amber knoll
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Wheres buckshot 2

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MAKE IT NOW

bronze olive
# amber knoll Wheres buckshot 2

I'm making it for Mike. But he wanted to go in a different direction. this time it's a dating sim and instead of buckshot roulette its called backsh-

trim hull
lofty wharf
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if buckshot roulette is so good, why is there no buckshot roulette 2?

worthy aspen
lofty wharf
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no its always the 2 that is best. and the 3rd is ass

tawdry otter
mighty coral
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is that true buckshot is coming with the multiplayer mode

worthy aspen
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In buckshot roulette 2 we play as GOD

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or we play as Dealer agaist GOD

sonic crown
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YAS

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ACHEIVEMENT

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WAİT

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uhh

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i miss magnifyer or whatever glass

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nvm i'll work

amber knoll
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Back shot roulette is crazy

sonic crown
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backshots are crazy

normal skiff
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i cant open the game all the drivers are new my gpu is the gefore 620m

cobalt epoch
muted sable
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Ahhhhh

bronze olive
junior ridge
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Does anyone know all the possible shell arrangements?
What I've seen from my playthroughs is: no matter how big the total number of shells is, the two types must either have equal numbers or one more than the other, but never more than that

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I'm trying to do a shell tracker on an empty console with c# (easier said than done) because my memory is shit

lofty wharf
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ok has anyone here ever used more than 1 phone in the same round where the phones reveal a different shell? Ive done it like 5 times at this point and it always tells me the same info i already know

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but idk if im just unlucky or if thats just how it works

junior ridge
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I guess that's intentional

tawdry otter
tawdry otter
junior ridge
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Double or Nothing

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Regular is kinda lame at this point lol

normal skiff
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guy fawkes

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fawkkkkkkkk u

junior ridge
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What I think happens in game is:
If it's an even number, the shells are evenly split between live and blank
If it's an odd number, the shells are evenly split once again apart from the extra shell which can be either way

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But I have doubts, since I think there was an instance in which there were 3 live and 5 blanks, maybe?

cobalt epoch
cobalt epoch
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In regular campaign I remember 4 live 2 blank lmfao

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And I think 6 live 2 blank

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That was insane

junior ridge
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I think I saw 3 live 2 blank multiple times

cobalt epoch
junior ridge
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Unless I'm getting confused

cobalt epoch
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There are never more lives than blanks

junior ridge
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Well, it doesn't really matter anymore because I found out the broker phone doesn't actually change probabilities much

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Same with the lens

junior ridge
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Well, yes but not in a way that breaks the system

cobalt epoch
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It's very useful sometimes

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But sometimes it's only slightly useful

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If you use it at the start and it says 7th shell blank that's not very helpful

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But if there's 1 live 2 blank and it tells you position of live it is very helpful

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Especially if live is 3rd

junior ridge
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Yeah ik, but the probabilities change only because it's as if the shell you check gets removed from the probability count

cobalt epoch
junior ridge
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Ik I still haven't studied them at school lol

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For some reason I thought it would change something

winter geode
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Hey everyone i got a question for all of you do you guys sometimes use Keyboard button controls And mouse when playing???

Or just mouse

junior ridge
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Just mouse

warm hinge
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what the hell man

junior ridge
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The phone tells you the position of the shell related to how many are left in the chamber

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There are two left and it tells you the second one is live, it isn't referring to the original order of the shells, but the current order based on the ones remaining

junior ridge
keen mortar
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Am I the only one who has a sound bug in the game?

junior ridge
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It's not made clear either

junior ridge
keen mortar
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no only windowed discord

winter geode
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so i guess controller lol

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i just use the thumb padworks pretty well

junior ridge
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I'm not a tech guy by any means

bronze olive
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Oh God what is this

warm turret
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IT HAS BEEN 0 DAYS SINCE A SUS INCIDENT

hushed vigil
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If you bought it on itch io, do you get a code for the steam release?

night marsh
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No

manic wyvern
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I know the Dealer isn’t symmetrical but seeing him lopsided feels wrong

gusty plaza
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hello

lofty wharf
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i hit a million like 30-40% of all my runs. I rly should hit a billion soon

cobalt epoch
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I like that he drives away with the guy chilling on the walkway

winter geode
hallow willow
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nyeheheheh

bronze olive
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nyehehehehehe

hallow willow
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nya

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oh my god that literally made me remember :papyrus:

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oh

tawdry otter
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Speaking of which, guess who just found out that openGL shaders weren't toggled on, despite pointing a lot of other High Rollers towards CR's tutorial since the Steam launch?

woven wigeon
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waiting for 1.2.3 so i can update the archive again :3

tawdry otter
naive dome
frail crane
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I love how you used the bottleg version of the plush

bronze olive
# naive dome

Everytime you show me this I want it a little more

hallow willow
naive dome
keen vortex
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hes just a lil guy

winter geode
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BURN HIM

naive dome
bronze olive
winter geode
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i readthat as boned

bronze olive
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😭

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Do NOT bone Mister Bootleg!

manic wyvern
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His name is moron he was born without a brain

inland tree
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so what do i do with this pile of text? i got it from sending an email to the email shown during the bootup of the leaderboard computer
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this one

inland tree
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arg kitten?

bronze olive
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Check pinned there ❤️

inland tree
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got it

inland tree
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although how does the dealer ai work, he seems hard yet fair

stone wolf
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I swear my luck is so bad. Literally every first round I have played I have never not been shot

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Is the first bullet always a live in every game 😭

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It's mathematically improbable otherwise

inland tree
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speak of the devil

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i just used a beer in a double or nothing round on my first bullet in the first round and it was a live

warm turret
# inland tree although how does the dealer ai work, he seems hard yet fair

in normal mode the dealer's pretty dumb. uses items greedily, coin flips whether or not to shoot you if he doesn't know the shell. he only knows the shell if he used a magnifying glass or if it's the last shell.
in double or nothing the dealer's a little smarter. shoots you if more lives than blanks, shoots himself if more blanks than lives, coin flips if equal. but still pretty dumb. he gained 10 iq points from -12

lofty wharf
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he still uses items greedily

inland tree
warm turret
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same for both

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oh and in normal mode the dealer can use a magnifying glass then a beer and he still thinks he knows the shell. i think this was originally a bug but i just checked the dealer code, this has explicitly been added as a "feature" for normal mode

lofty wharf
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i think i heard of a bug where dealers burner phone can reveal the current shell

inland tree
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how? isnt his usage of the item just an animation and nothing else

lofty wharf
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i mean, it reveals it to him

warm turret
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a flag is marked that he knows the shell

inland tree
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yeah hes a wee bit dumb, shot himself while at 1 health

warm turret
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he's a silly little guy

winter geode
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Hobo clowned

wispy viper
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He still clowns himself on my runs

inland tree
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jesus i knew i was taking time with my choices, but 10 dollars?

round prism
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bruh they need to ajust the beer placement i thoght it was a hand saw behind it 😭

round prism
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adrenaline

winter geode
fast egret
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dealer got tired of all of these people going into his nightclub and killing him

winter geode
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Monochrome is like the one i listened to the least

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Idk how it got there

bronze olive
winter geode
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||No one 🥺||

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Weights are my other lovers

leaden ruin
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guys I'm in a serious problem here

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(both have one life)

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1.2m is on the line

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but on who

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do I medicine it

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do I shoot dealer

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because if I shoot the dealer and hear that cursed click

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then it's game over

worldly hearth
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In my honest analysis...

leaden ruin
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on dealer?

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what do you have to say fade?

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anything you wanna add?

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also for more info

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it was originally a 3:3

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2 blanks were fired, 2 lives

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in that order too

worldly hearth
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Hope for a bang, if not, close the game

leaden ruin
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wish me luck guys

rugged harness
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how do u get the computer stat thing in the game?

leaden ruin
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wdQIHDJ

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no way

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whaTYN

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NO WAY

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THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH

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LMAOO

worldly hearth
leaden ruin
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I won

worldly hearth
leaden ruin
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YES

worldly hearth
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See, I told you

leaden ruin
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I don't know where I'd be without you

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I just got round 3 to finish

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hopefully it's not too bad

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right?

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appreciate y'all

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guys I did it

leaden ruin
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I did it

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I did it

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1.2 million

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let's fuckin GOOOO

worldly hearth
leaden ruin
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yes

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you saved me time for me to repay the debt

worldly hearth
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I'll need about $90,000 of the $1.2 million

leaden ruin
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have it all lol

worldly hearth
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YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

leaden ruin
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ask fade

worldly hearth
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Mine is about $90,000 at the end of all four years, considering I don't go to grad school

leaden ruin
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me whenmad

worldly hearth
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Same bro

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Book a flight to Vegas, we gonna hit the tables Dealercursedokay

plain mirage
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The buckshot roulette tables? 👀

bronze olive
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tkae methere...

warm turret
worldly hearth
warm turret
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honestly after getting the first million the second is a lot easier. less pressure on yourself

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at least from my experience

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plus you have Tactics

plain mirage
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Maybe I’ll finish up the achievements this weekend. I’ve been playing around with the decompiled version quite a bit

leaden ruin
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like

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3 situations where it was a 2/3 chance of death and I walked out alive

plain mirage
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It feels like the dealer has been a lot more vengeful towards me as of late. But then again I’ve been dabbling so much in the code I just might understand the game better

warm turret
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my first million i had to take expired meds to survive and got lucky. gotta play the odds with death

leaden ruin
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yep that's how it was for me a few times

winter geode
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Any of yall do stretches?

fervent urchin
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Any chance the burner phone still doesn't always work?

leaden ruin
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I could be worng

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like if you've used 2 shells it could say 2nd shell blank (the shell after the current one is a blank)

plain mirage
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It’s based off of what is in the shotgun

rugged harness
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How do I get laptop in the bathroom for the leaderboards and stuff?

rugged harness
leaden ruin
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oh yes

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yet

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you gotta buy it on steam for the latest updates CURRENTLY

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the updates will come to itch (if possible) at a certain date

warm turret
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there's a new update out for itch, no leaderboard though

leaden ruin
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oh

leaden ruin
junior ridge
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I'm officially a kitten now >:3

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Nope, didn't work

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Dafuq

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I guess Rita's message wasn't automated

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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Whelp, back to relearning C#

uncut ruin
warm turret
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yes, multiplayer isn't coming to itch - relies on steam tools

uncut ruin
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I wonder if Mike still gets $1.20 when someone buys the game on steam

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or perhaps higher

minor arrow
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now that it's april 20th (at least in america), do you think the dealer is celebrating rn

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(this man stalled for 10 minutes straight smoking one time)

open tinsel
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where multiplayer

minor arrow
# open tinsel where multiplayer
  1. It's officially coming later this year, we don't know when exactly but at the bare minimum it'll be 8 months, perhaps even a buckshot anniversary gift, hopefully it's earlier though!
  2. There's a mod for the itch.io version of the game (specifically 1.1) that adds multiplayer so if you're willing to get that set-up you could try that out
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rn they're cooking an update to make it work for steam 1.2 (the modders i mean)

junior ridge
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Heyo

bronze olive
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i must eep

kindred meteor
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Drunk

fast tusk
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I think the dealer likes beer

cobalt epoch
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Happy 4/20 guys

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Who up bucking their shots

junior ridge
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The dealer needs to forget some stuff

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Probably all the times he's lost

hallow willow
junior ridge
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Define normal

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Cuz if that's normal I might as well be sniffing coke

cobalt epoch
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Drug Addiction build

junior ridge
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That's the Oktoberfest Enjoyer build

cobalt epoch
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German build

kindred meteor
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Peter Griffin build

junior ridge
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Homer Simpson build

lofty wharf
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bruh. both had 1 life left, and there were 4 live and 1 blank. ofc i shot the blank 😭

junior ridge
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Dealer Luck Moment

cobalt epoch
muted ginkgo
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Is anybody else here blocked off from updates and frequently asked questions for Bukshot Roulette?

hallow willow
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Bukshot skullgoji

junior ridge
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They're read only

junior ridge
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1% chance for the dealer to eat the cigarette and choke on it

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Sounds fun

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(sounds gun bruh X3)

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I just had lunch wdym

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I'm like this all the time

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Which makes it even funnier imo XD

brittle palm
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i cant believe it im gonna see mikk with my own eyes in 1h 30min

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hes doing a conference on videogame production 101 in a gaming expo in tallinn

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i even printed a lil buckshot roulette pic for him to sign :)

brittle palm
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i wonder too but i respect him enough not to expose that

junior ridge
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What if he shows up with a mask on his face lol

brittle palm
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that would be such a mikk thing to do

junior ridge
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I guess, I joined yesterday so I have no clue

tame creek
junior ridge
tame creek
junior ridge
# tame creek

Before the world ends some guy will try to replicate buckshot roulette in real life

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I'm calling it

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It's gonna take negative iq and a fair bit of psychopathy, but I feel like someone might actually do it

tawdry otter
hybrid wolf
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the fact the new dealer actually counts shells is problematic

vapid solstice
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The hell you mean he ALWAYS know’s what the last shell is

brittle palm
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wow that was such a cool presentation

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mikk was such a kind and fun person too

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i had fun

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:)

junior ridge
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Which also means he's a pain in the ass even though he's an npc

hybrid wolf
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(I didn't look at the code, that's just info I've gathered through playing and testing)

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the dealer is way smarter

junior ridge
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I can confirm for DoN, I didn't play as much campaign mode to know the first one tho

hybrid wolf
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campaign is pretty straight forward :
he never knows what the shell is unless it's the last one or he uses a magnifying glass
(note the MG flag doesn't get reset if he uses a beer)
and when he doesn't know it's 50/50 on who he targets

lofty wharf
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new dealer AI is more snowbally for both sides. If you already hit him with a bunch of early lives, he will probably shoot himself and make your lead even stronger. But if your early shots are blank he will most likely try to shoot you and make the situation even worse for you

junior ridge
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Well, yeah...he's just applying the same logic as the player, but with much better memory

hybrid wolf
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yup, because his targeting is based on the probability the current shell is live or blank
so the more live shells are in play, the more likely you are to get one to the face

junior ridge
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I swear the amount of times I lost because I couldn't keep count of the shells...

hybrid wolf
lofty wharf
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and dealer also has some rly bad item usage lol

junior ridge
hybrid wolf
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like, the dealer doesn't look at the consequences of his actions or your possible play
he literally just counts shells and tries to map the sequence

junior ridge
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Yeah, that's probably why they're developing a multiplayer mode in the first place XD

hybrid wolf
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the item use is still determined by pick up order
including when he steals your items

lofty wharf
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hes more likely to use the first spawned items first right?

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sometimes i can tell which items spawned first since the item's shadows can sometimes be seen on the screen when he picks them up

hybrid wolf
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it's not a probability, it's a guarantee
but he checks if the items is "usable" in his state

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like if your first item is an inverter, he won't use it if he doesn't know for certain the shell is blank, so he'll check if he can steal your second item

junior ridge
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Yeah, same for the items he's got

lofty wharf
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but i notice he always uses smokes before pills tho

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even when theyre both usable

junior ridge
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He won't use cigarettes if his health is maxxed out

hybrid wolf
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he never uses pills if he's at max charge or 1 charge

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that's why he's more likely to smoke first

lofty wharf
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i mean when hes at like 2 or 3 charge

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i dont think ive ever seen him use pills first when he has smokes

hybrid wolf
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possible, I didn't check that

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it makes sense, it's a guarantee 1up compared to a chance to lose health

junior ridge
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Ok I have a theory for this I think

lofty wharf
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i dont rly care why he does it lol. im just saying its something that breaks the spawn order rule

hybrid wolf
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ok let's check, I currently have him at 3 charge with both pills and cigs

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interesting

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either the cigs were his first item, or he just uses them before anything else

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I also noticed he never uses the phone on a 1-1

lofty wharf
hybrid wolf
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i would need a situation where he draws cigarettes on a second load out to see if he uses them before any other item

rich tendon
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🙂

junior ridge
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I think his methodology is:

  1. Following the same order as the box, determine if the items you have (or in the adrenaline's case, the items the player has) are usable, if so use them
  2. If you've used any items during step 1, repeat step 1
  3. Use the shotgun once
  4. Repeat the process until it's not your turn anymore
hybrid wolf
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I think it might have a step 0 of
"if you're not max health and you have cigarettes, use as many as you can"

sour tulip
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Dealer prioritizes some things during adreneline

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Namely, healing items

hybrid wolf
sour tulip
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Nah

junior ridge
sour tulip
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He genuinely will use healing items first

strong sigil
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What the hell happened to my book shot roulette because I won $10 and when I doubled it I got 20. Wtf

hybrid wolf
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alright

sour tulip
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I have tested this multiple times

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He will take even expired medicine over an inverter I've had for multiple rounds

strong sigil
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I’m only getting $10

hybrid wolf
strong sigil
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That makes sense. I was watching YouTube.

junior ridge
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Not just adrenaline

sour tulip
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Oh of course

junior ridge
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I'm sure he does prioritise health items tho

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With adrenaline

sour tulip
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He will also not use expired medicine if there's ANY cigs on the table as well

strong sigil
junior ridge
hybrid wolf
sour tulip
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But in general he uses the items based on the order he got them out of the box

junior ridge
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Yeah, ik

hybrid wolf
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nope, I confirm he uses cigarettes as the very first step

sour tulip
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He will use cigs before firing the shotgun but not always as the first item

hybrid wolf
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he had pills and an adrenaline from a previous load out
he could've used his adrenaline to steal my cigs
but his first instinct was to use the cigs he got from the new loadout

junior ridge
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I think the parameters for meds are:

  1. Health mustn't be at 1 or maxed out
  2. There mustn't be any cigarettes on your side
    2a) If you have adrenaline, there mustn't be any cigarettes on the player's side (I think, we should test it out)
sour tulip
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But also the Dealer will use his copy of an item before using adreneline to steal yours

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At least in my experience, I'm not 100% on that

junior ridge
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Now I understand why making a better AI for items is way too difficult XD

hybrid wolf
junior ridge
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Yeah, it could be like that

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Although he does repeat the process once he fires one time and it's still his turn

sour tulip
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Nah it's just as a result of healing items naturally being very applicable

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Healing comes first but he still sticks to his "order from the box" routine

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So if something else he wants to use came out first, he will use it first

hybrid wolf
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  • info: beer, MG, phone, (handcuffs ?)
  • healing: cigs, pills
  • damaging: inverter, handsaw, (handcuffs ?)
  • choose who to shoot based on live count
junior ridge
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I think it isn't like that, it could but the order from the box is basically certain at this point

sour tulip
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The top two are reversed

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And the items themselves are ordered as well, which is important in regards to adreneline

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What order that is, I'm unsure of, but I know cigs are on top and next is pills

hybrid wolf
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ok so there is no info/healing phase
there's only a single item phase

sour tulip
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Yeah

hybrid wolf
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he just used items before and after healing

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  • item: beer, MG, phone, handcuffs, cigs, pills, (adrenaline)
  • damage: inverter, handsaw, (adrenaline)
  • shoot
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order of checking for the phase :
dealer's items
order of the box
check if valid for the phase

when all dealer's items are checked
if adrenaline, player's items
order of the box
check if valid for the phase

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within their phases:
MG is always valid
beer is always valid (need to check for the MG-beer bug)
phone is always valid (never seen him use two tho)
handcuffs are valid as long as player isn't handcuffed
cigs are valid if health isn't max
pills are valid if health isn't max or 1, or dealer has cigs (need to check for adrenaline and/or player cigs)

inverter is only valid if dealer knows the shell is blank
handsaw is always valid if dealer tries to shoot player

lofty wharf
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ive seen him use 2 phones

hybrid wolf
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in the same turn ?

lofty wharf
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yes

hybrid wolf
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alright

lofty wharf
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although could have been from stealing my phone

junior ridge
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Phones in the same turn say the same thing

hybrid wolf
#

oh they do ?

#

huh

junior ridge
#

I'm not sure who said it but yes

hybrid wolf
#

let me try

junior ridge
#

I would need to go back to older messages

#

Two phones say the same information as long as the player doesn't fire in between usage

hybrid wolf
#

ok I got a situation with 2 phones

#

6th blank

#

3rd live

#

nope

hybrid wolf
#

I used phone, adrenaline, phone

#

but I suppose that means there's no guarantee a phone will give you new information

manic fox
#

The android buckshot is not official

hybrid wolf
#

yup I confirm he always uses the adrenaline last in each phase

#

HUH

#

OK

#

so

#

it's a bit weirder than I thought

#

the dealer just used
MG, inverter, adrenaline, steal my cigs

#

so adrenaline is two separate phases

junior ridge
hybrid wolf
#
  • dealer items
  • dealer damage+
  • player items
  • player damage+
  • shoot
#

I think is what happens

junior ridge
#

Well uh...at this point the only certain thing is he verifies items before using them based on parameters

tawdry otter
#

Official ports are planned #│faq
But no specific mention of mobile yet.
Steam and itch.io are the only officially supported BR release platforms.

hybrid wolf
#
dealer's side
  item phase
    in order from the box
      check if valid for this phase
      check if valid use case
  damage+ phase
    if dealer knows shell is blank:
      use inverter

if dealer doesn't know shell and has adrenaline:
  player's side
    item phase
      in order from the box
        check if valid for this phase
        check if valid use case
    damage+ phase
      if dealer knows shell is blank:
        use inverter

dealer decides who to shoot
  dealer's side
    if dealer shoots player:
      use handsaw
  if dealer has adrenaline:
    player's side
      if dealer shoots player:
        use handsaw

shoot
#

I think this is roughly the code

junior ridge
#

The dealer's actions are beyond my comprehension - God, 3rd April 2024

hybrid wolf
#

wait actually it can't be clean because of the handsaw

#

argh

#

ok

#

that's my theory

hybrid wolf
#

let's play and see if there are inconsistencies

#

ok so the MG-beer bug still exists

#

interesting

#

interesting, he doesn't use adrenaline when he knows what the shell is by the time he gets there

#

wait wth

#

he just healed after using the handsaw

#

how does it work ?!?

#

ok I guess the "knows the shell" variable just applies as a validity check on every item

#

that's weird

#

so in the item phase it just checks every item except for adrenaline
then does a second pass specifically for inverters and handsaws

#
dealer's side
  item phase
    in order from the box
      check if valid use case
  damage+ phase
    if dealer knows shell is blank:
      use inverter

if dealer has adrenaline:
  player's side
    if dealer doesn't know shell is live:
      item phase
        in order from the box
          check if valid use case
    damage+ phase
      if dealer knows shell is blank:
        use inverter

dealer decides who to shoot
  dealer's side
    if dealer shoots player:
      use handsaw
  if dealer has adrenaline:
    player's side
      if dealer shoots player:
        use handsaw

shoot
#

I think ???

junior ridge
#

Can you list all the items for me pls?

#

I don't have a sharp memory

#

I can do it by myself but it'll take some time to remember all of them...

#

Adrenaline
Meds
Cigarettes
Knife
Handcuffs
Beer
Phone
Magnifying glass
...
What am I forgetting

tawdry otter
junior ridge
#

Oh right, inverter

tawdry otter
#

Last 4 are DoN exclusive

junior ridge
#

Shit, sent it early

#

one sec

hybrid wolf
junior ridge
#

What I think he does is he checks for every item's validity in the current turn, following an order similar to the box but still unknown to us

  • Adrenaline
    I think it checks the validity of the player's items if and only if any other item on his side isn't valid at that moment. This item can only be used if one of the player's items is valid.

  • Meds

  1. There mustn't be any cigarettes
  2. Health must be higher than 1 and not maxed out
  • Cigarettes
  1. Health mustn't be maxed out
  • Knife
  1. The next shell must either be a certain live round or have a probability higher than (or equal to, haven't tested it out) 50%
  2. It should be used after the magnifying glass
  • Handcuffs
  1. The player must have free hands
  • Beer
  1. The next shell must either be a certain blank round or have a probability lower than or equal to 50%
  2. It should be used after the magnifying glass
  • Phone
    Use it. Do it.

  • Magnifying glass
    Use it. Do it.
    Cannot be used if another magnifying glass has already been chosen

  • Inverter

  1. The next shell must either be a certain blank round or have a probability lower than or equal to 50%
  2. It should be used after the magnifying glass
#

Due to some items being tied to either the cigs or the MG, I think there is a sort of tier list for items coded into it which prevents items being used if higher tiers are present

#

Actually there are two tier lists, imo

hybrid wolf
#

adrenaline is always played last tho

#

the knife isn't based on shell probability, it's based on if he decides to shoot the player

junior ridge
#

Hm, yeah I think so too

#

I just didn't test it and assumed

hybrid wolf
#

beer shouldn't be used after MG, it just... happens to do it anyway

#

and idk how the data is stored for the dealer knowledge of the rounds, but it might create an MG-beer bug

junior ridge
#

I think it's intentional tbh

hybrid wolf
#

the dealer can absolutely play 2 MGs, it just needs to not know what the current shell is

#

the original bug wasn't intentional

#

idk if they intentionally kept it, or used a data structure that fixes it

#

the inverter is never used if the dealer isn't certain of it being a blank

#

when he does use an inverter and there's a live shell in play, it's because he has phone knowledge of the shell being blank or exactly where the live is

warm turret
#

the mg-beer bug is intentionally kept in normal mode. it only clears the known shell flag in don

hybrid wolf
#

I mean, normal mode is just copy paste of the itch version

#

I mean specifically in the DoN mode

#

idk if it's still there or not

#

I haven't seen proof it's not

warm turret
#

it is not

#

i've seen the code

hybrid wolf
#

right

junior ridge
#

Tbh I'm not suprised I got fact checked, my memory is just...eugh

hybrid wolf
#

I mean we're here to find the truth, so it's normal to check everything

junior ridge
#

Nah I mean that I do errors all the time cuz of my brain

hybrid wolf
#

I'm still quite sure there's 2 passes of validity check

#

one for every item, and a second for damage+

junior ridge
#

Could be, yeah

hybrid wolf
#

then the same checks are applied to adrenaline

#

but there's some sort of check first

#

and idk what it is

junior ridge
#

It could be a shell probability/arrangement check

#

Both at the start and at the end before shooting or checking for adrenaline

hybrid wolf
#

I'm quite sure probability is only used to determine who the dealer shoots

#

and it sets a flag

junior ridge
#

Wait I'm a bit confused on the flag thing

#

I haven't seen any flags in-game

hybrid wolf
#

right ok

#

"flag" is just a coding term for a variable that acts as a sort of... indicator

junior ridge
#

So it's in the script?

hybrid wolf
#

yes

junior ridge
#

Ok got it

hybrid wolf
#

here I'm talking about a flag that says "hey, I know what the shell is"

#

or well

#

I'm confusing myself

#

"I know who I'm gonna shoot"

junior ridge
#

Lol, dw

hybrid wolf
#

anyway

#

so what's for sure is there's 2 passes in the dealer's inventory

  1. check the validity of every item in box order
  2. check the validity of inverters
    then it checks if it knows what the shell is
    if it doesn't, it checks if it has adrenaline
    if it does, it does the same passes in the player's inventory
    within that loop
    whenever the dealer knows for certain what the shell is
    it decides who to shoot
    does one last pass for handsaws in both inventories
    then shoots
#

I think

junior ridge
#

Or whenever he confirms he can't know the shell type

hybrid wolf
tawdry otter
hybrid wolf
#

Im gonna test my hypothesis

#

ok so :
1 live 2 blanks

#

my model states that
he will first use handcuffs and phone (don't know the order)
then use the adrenaline to steal my first magnifying glass
then decide who to shoot

#

ok I was a little off because I forgot to take my shot into consisideration

junior ridge
#

Anyways, I'm off to do a C# code for an empty console that keeps track of the shell probabilities and visualises the arrangement of them

hybrid wolf
#

I shot a blank
dealer used handcuffs, adrenaline, my first MG, then shot

#

he never uses the phone for a 1-1

#

for some reason

sour tulip
#

Can confirm that too

#

Dealer will only use the phone if there's at least 3 shells and said shells are not all of the same type

#

(as he will then just know all the shells and not need the info)

warm turret
sour tulip
#

Even though 1-1 situation is a perfect time to use the phone lol

hybrid wolf
sour tulip
#

Indeed

#

I.e. he discovers the last blank/live via a magnifying glass

#

Don't need to use the phone after that

hybrid wolf
#

I was thinking more of a 1-2 situation where he already used a phone prior to that and knows where the live is
in this situation the dealer has enough knowledge to calculate the entire sequence

sour tulip
#

Sure, that works too

hybrid wolf
#

which I don't think he actually calculates btw

#

as in, I don't think there's a part of the code dedicated to pre-calculating the sequence

sour tulip
#

The dealer does actually keep track of how many rounds are in the shotgun now

#

But he doesn't use this information unless he knows all lives' or all blanks' locations

hybrid wolf
#

more like, it calculates the probability of the shell based on how many lives and blanks are in play and how many he knows the position of
and sometimes it just happens to be 100%

sour tulip
#

Dealer still does 50/50 when shooting a shotgun shot he doesn't know

hybrid wolf
#

he does not

#

he calculates the probability of the shell being live, and uses that as the probability to shoot the player

sour tulip
#

Hm

#

I guess that's hard to personally notice

hybrid wolf
#

bottom line is, the more lives are in play, the more likely you are to get shot

#

the more blanks are in play, the more likely he'll try to pass the turn

sour tulip
#

Honestly good

#

That makes the Dealer more consistent

#

Which is handy because knowing his AI and what he'll do is paramount to minimizing the damage he does to you while maximizing how many items he wastes

#

I wonder if they'll ever update the Dealer to not drink beers he knows to be blank, it's so odd that he continues to do this

hybrid wolf
#

that's exactly why I'm torturing myself rn

#

trying to figure out his exact play style

hybrid wolf
sour tulip
#

Yeah

hybrid wolf
#

ok so the dealer knowing the shell isn't enough to make it stop using the adrenaline

#

but knowing it was blank was enough to make it skip over my HS

sour tulip
#

He will use it if there's an item on your table he wants to use

#

He will even what you said and steal a beer for it

hybrid wolf
#
dealer's inventory
  check the validity of every item (no adrenaline) in box order
  check the validity of inverters

if it has adrenaline
  if it doesn't know the shell is live
    player's inventory
      check the validity of every item (no adrenaline) in box order
      check the validity of inverters

it decides who to shoot
if it shoots player
  dealer's inventory
    check the validity of handsaws
  if it has adrenaline
    player's inventory
      check the validity of handsaws

shoot
sour tulip
#

I don't think it's box order for adrenaline

hybrid wolf
#

you mean the player inventory ?

sour tulip
#

Yeah

hybrid wolf
#

oh yes it is

#

it always tries to pick the first item you got

sour tulip
#

I'm fairly certain that's not the case

hybrid wolf
#

I have conducted enough tests to say, when it's not the case, it's because the item wasn't in a valid use case

sour tulip
#

My main problem with that is that he absolutely steals healing items first in every scenario I've been in

hybrid wolf
#

ok, let me find a test case to show you

sour tulip
#

It's even part of my strategy to waste his adr on pills

#

Because I know I'm protected on all my other items if I have that on the table and it's a valid item for him to use

tawdry otter
hybrid wolf
#

I think you just got unlucky a lot of the time, and were in a situation where the first valid item you picked was always healing

vocal cedar
brittle palm
#

yep!

hybrid wolf
#

like, preceded by a lot of inverters and hansaws

brittle palm
#

all framed! thanks again :)

tawdry otter
#

Speak of the devil, Dealer showed up in a Ludum Dare entry

sour tulip
#

I can test for it more I guess

#

But it is something I consistently do is assume that he'll steal healing before anything else, so make sure to use cigs even if they're useless to you (unless something tells you otherwise) and keep pills on the table always for the Dealer to take instead

#

That way I can keep my stashed info gathering items for later

hybrid wolf
#

oh

#

interesting

#

when the dealer knows the shell is live, it considers drinking beer to be invalid

#

but when it knows it's blank, it's valid

manic sluice
#

hello!

#

does someone have a redeem code for buckshot roulette?

sour tulip
#

Why would we

#

If we had one we would've used it lol

manic sluice
#

yeah ik

#

just asking cause i wanna try the game

#

and i dont have enough to buy it

sour tulip
#

$3 and you don't have enough

#

Ok

manic sluice
#

a friend told me some discord channels sometimes giveaway codes

#

i just wanted to know

#

sorry if i was too direct, didnt meant to

tawdry otter
#

For the new Double or Nothing, ManlyBadassHero or Delightful Kissboy for probability analysis

manic sluice
#

oh yeah

#

true

tawdry otter
manic sluice
tawdry otter
#

Yeah, I'm trying to find the last staff message about it, but no definite dates

cosmic heron
#

yeah

manic sluice
#

well then i'll try luck in some of them

#

so far there have been just one giveaway right?

#

the lattest on the giveaway channel

plain mirage
#

In the meantime if you want to check out Mike’s other work, unsorted horror is free

manic sluice
#

i'll take a look to those games

#

thx for info yall guys!

plain mirage
#

Ye! Happy playing!

manic sluice
#

thx!!

tawny lance
tawny lance
bronze olive
#

MY BELOVED

manic wyvern
#

My wife??!???

bronze olive
#

Omg I marry krobus in SD too ;;

cobalt dirge
#

hello infidels

gray token
#

does someone has the model of dealer for c4d?

cobalt dirge
#

does anyone here ever just go "fuck you" and just completely ignore items and only shoot the dealer

bronze olive
#

Morning !

cobalt dirge
bronze olive
#

It's actually 415 pm here

#

I just woke up late

cobalt dirge
#

how do you wake up at 4 pm

#

bewildered

#

on a sunday i awake at 7 am

winter geode
#

Both me and dealer on 1 charge.
He gets rid of the last blank.
Still proceeds to shoot himself.

#

The dealers ai is so goofy sometimes.

lofty wharf
#

hes just a silly lil guy!

#

whats the highest legitimate score someone has cashed out on? in V1.2

cobalt dirge
#

no fuck you dyno

bronze olive
lofty wharf
#

what

cobalt dirge
bronze olive
#

We have no way to verify what's real and what's not out there

cobalt dirge
#

i go at 11 pm cuz amimir

wispy viper
cobalt dirge
#

bro does NOT possess the indomitable human spirit

wispy viper
lofty wharf
cobalt dirge
#

i went to sleep at 2 am and woke up at 9 am

thin bronze
#

Gonna go get dinner

#

Hunting is better at dusk anyway

wispy viper
thin bronze
#

I’m just going to Waffle House

lofty wharf
#

is there like a cyberscore page or soemthing for buckshot where i can see the highest verified scores?

thin bronze
#

Nah, just lack ambition

#

Not everyone can be Cesar

wispy viper
thin bronze
#

It’s chill near me

#

50/50 if it reeks of cigarettes though

#

My kind of gamble

wispy viper
#

The one time I went the food was really good, fresh and a big portion. But I heard they serve bigger portions in America, fr

lofty wharf
#

i wonder what kinda food they serve at waffle house

thin bronze
#

Special ordered a burger patty between two waffles once

wispy viper
thin bronze
#

Depends if you like sweet and savory

#

Tell you what there isn’t anything fresh besides the beef though

wispy viper
#

Maybe. Unfortunately it's every where. My husband and I have stopped going and I cook at home.

sour tulip
winter geode
#

i dont go out of my way to eat fast food but if someone buys it for me i'll eat it

thin bronze
#

I still prefer the hole in the wall döner places

sour tulip
#

And that seems to be top 1,000 approximately

winter geode
#

lmao

wispy viper
#

We've been pretty much anywhere around here. My dad would take me & bro out for food at least once a week (looking back on it now, I really wish he wouldn't have) so we discovered a lot of places young.

#

I live in North Carolina.

winter geode
thin bronze
#

I can relate one of my favorite mom and pop places just couldn’t compete anymore with papa John’s

#

Still miss their 5pepper pizza

wispy viper
winter geode
#

💀

thin bronze
#

I miss living in a small town sometimes

winter geode
#

everytime i'm reminded that others are lactose intolerant, i feel grateful for not being one

#

no offense ofc

thin bronze
#

Cottage cheese is the shit

winter geode
#

cottage is a type of house isnt it

#

ohhhh

#

i love all cheese tbh

thin bronze
#

Remember always getting it with the canned peaches when I was in School

wispy viper
thin bronze
#

It’s like curds in whey

winter geode
#

arent curds cheese

#

i'm so confused

thin bronze
#

Not a complete cheese it was stopped like halfway

#

So it is cheese chunks in an emulsifier

winter geode
#

theres only one answer
( i wanna do the deed with the dealer )

thin bronze
#

Agreed

wispy viper
#

I like that you can avoid the ? All together on this one

thin bronze
#

Political maxxing

winter geode
#

fr

wispy viper
#

Nah the dealer actually creeps me out.. I just didn't wanna answer 😂

winter geode
#

fiending for the dealers shotgun 😉

thin bronze
#

I love the mozzarella balls They it make the best capreze salads

winter geode
#

🤭

#

i like whole grain

thin bronze
#

Whole grain all the way

wispy viper
#

Both tbh I'm not very picky

thin bronze
#

I love it with a good cream cheese

winter geode
#

cream cheese is great

#

depends tbh

#

i'm gonna say toasted bread

#

toasted bread and butter

#

it's simple

#

but

#

classic

#

elegant

wispy viper
#

Toasted

winter geode
#

redefined

wispy viper
#

I second butter

winter geode
#

bread and butter is such a great combo why dont more people like it

thin bronze
#

Toasted bread, got a panini maker for expressly toasting sandwiche bread

#

Gotta have the right fat for the bread though

#

Goose fat is my favorite

#

Don’t know the English term for it, but it’s called Schmaltz from where I’m from

#

Omelette

winter geode
#

nah a lot of people ik disagree with me

#

scrambled is the most basic, simple type of eggs

#

i like dippy eggs

#

or sunnyside up

#

whatever u wanna call it

#

soliders and toast is also really good

#

or is it eggs and soliders

#

i forgot

#

i think its eggs and soliders

#

eggs and milk sounds like a 🔥 combo ngl

thin bronze
#

It’s like a better version of Margarine

winter geode
#

eggs and soldiers is still one of my fav ways to have it though

thin bronze
#

Typically it has like bacon bits and herbs suspended in it

winter geode
#

its like

winter geode
thin bronze
#

Schmaltz

winter geode
thin bronze
#

It’s typically goose fat, but chicken fat is also used

#

Aqua vitae

winter geode
#

the real question is

#

do you prefer cold water or warm water?

#

personally, i like warm water a little more

#

i dont like ice cold water tbh

#

i mean i do

thin bronze
#

Nearly ice is the best

winter geode
#

but not as much as i like warm water

thin bronze
#

But no ice in it

winter geode
#

i like ice by itself

#

sometimes ill get a cup and just eat it like popcorn

bronze olive
#

Good**

#

I want some

thin bronze
#

Gotta have it separate from my water though

bronze olive
#

I never drink water

thin bronze
#

But it’s everywhere in Europe

bronze olive
#

Not terrible

thin bronze
#

Yup, plenty of recipes for it

winter geode
#

YES

#

YESSSS

bronze olive
#

This isnpretty common in many countries hahaha

#

Asians specifically like it

winter geode
#

i never needed it 🤷

bronze olive
#

Some believe it has health benefits

winter geode
#

no it hurts my teeth less

thin bronze
#

Not all countries are as fridge religious as Americans

silk trench
#

how do phones work?

winter geode
bronze olive
thin bronze
silk trench
#

If the dealer uses a phone, does the player get to know the result?

thin bronze
#

Then you are just a hethan

silk trench
#

pain

#

super pain

#

idk how to deal with phones for Smarter Dealer

winter geode
thin bronze
#

No, tea is warm water with flavor

winter geode
#

^

thin bronze
#

Which came first man

winter geode
#

how do you guys make your tea

#

i make my tea the proper way

#

by boiling it in the microwave

bronze olive
#

I don't drink it

thin bronze
#

I have a fancy boiling water faucet

#

Attached straight to my water heater

fast tusk
#

Tastes better

night marsh
#

...do none of you own a fucking kettle-

thin bronze
#

Gotta have the silicon flavor

#

Good for the kidneys

thin bronze
fast tusk
night marsh
manic wyvern
#

I boil my tea in the microwave

#

❤️

bronze olive
#

Average teen boy when a woman does anything

thin bronze
#

Best way to do it is straight from a nuclear reactor, the radiation should kill any microorganisms without tainting the flavor

manic wyvern
#

I hope you guys explode

bronze olive
silk trench
night marsh
bronze olive
#

Cuz we don't drink tea with kettles

#

We use tea pots

#

And boil it on the stove

manic wyvern
#

Love this server we got stuff like

bronze olive
#

We don't really have them

#

Like you'd have to go to a special store for it

thin bronze
#

Yeah, if it ain’t at ikea, it doesn’t seem to exist in an American house

winter geode
night marsh
winter geode
manic wyvern
#

Boil it in my ass

winter geode
#

bend over

#

🙏

manic wyvern
#

So true

thin bronze
#

Both

manic wyvern
#

Diving into the gaping sphincter

winter geode
#

rubbing my hands together, getting ready to go in

#

sometimes, i feel ashamed of myself

manic wyvern
#

I use Sphinctius Gapius! 🪄

thin bronze
#

Heavy metal scrote

manic wyvern
#

Umm it’s called Testicular Torsion you FOOL

winter geode
#

i cast testicular torsion

#

on YOU

thin bronze
manic wyvern
#

I cast COCKUS LOCKUS

winter geode
#

i cast untungsten ballsack

#

on myself

manic wyvern
#

COCKUS LOCKUS !!!

fast tusk
#

Crazy

manic wyvern
#

Flushed Away 2: Down the Skibidi Toilet

winter geode
#

the long awaited sequel

#

i can't wait to see it

manic wyvern
#

Rizzler’s Gyatt

thin bronze
#

Chicken run: Return of Caseoh

manic wyvern
#

The end

winter geode
#

so why are we called kittens

#

why not something else

thin bronze
#

The mukbang to end all

manic wyvern
thin bronze
winter geode
#

damn it

winter geode
#

i'm a arg puppy

thin bronze
winter geode
#

you aren't a puppy

manic wyvern
#

I’m the ARG MAN

winter geode
#

you're my puppy

manic wyvern
#

Yeah and I’m the man of the group

#

When the summer sun becomes too much you can hide under my ballskin ❤️

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(I’m sorry.)

thin bronze
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Waaaah

winter geode
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this chat

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is so cursed

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god forsakes all who text here

manic wyvern
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I’m only as cursed as people let me be

winter geode
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i'm afraid of you

thin bronze
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And there doesn’t seem to be a limit

winter geode
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i have nightmares about moonamite

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i have nightmares where i open my phone and i see a notifcation from moonamite

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i see that pfp

manic wyvern
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Well SOMEBODY has to be the comedian 🙄

winter geode
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it makes me scream and cry profusely

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don't hug me i'm scared

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it is a tv show

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wdym

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they made it into a tv show

manic wyvern
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I wish I had my old cursed oneyplays nostalgia critic pfp

thin bronze
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Been going through the boys

winter geode
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it counts bro

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or "cuh"

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its a tv show now but alright, "cuh"

thin bronze
winter geode
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fallout is a show i've really enjoyed

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don't tell me it isnt a real tv show bc its based on a video game franchise

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I DONT KNOW!

manic wyvern
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I watch a lot of oneyplays on YouTube. Not a show but may as well be (it explains a lot about me)

winter geode
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whats that

thin bronze
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Isn’t (was it not ) on the BBC

winter geode
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I APOLOGIZE PROFOUSLY

winter geode
manic wyvern
winter geode
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YES

thin bronze
winter geode
manic wyvern
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🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤

night marsh
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Can you stop joke telling people to kill themselves, you don't know people and how they could ba affected by your joke. Thank you.

winter geode
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the fallout show is really good

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like its incredible

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a video game adapation into tv that isn't dogshit?

thin bronze
winter geode
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no wtf lmao

thin bronze
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Sorry regardless

manic wyvern
thin bronze
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Shit’s fire

winter geode
# thin bronze Is it

if you're a fan of the games you're gonna enjoy the show
it's very accurate to games and it's just insane how well made it is
the only bad part is that it has some plot holes in the story that aren't explained well
other than that, very enjoyable

manic wyvern
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Breaking bad games????

winter geode
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i've seen that and also better call saul

thin bronze
winter geode
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tbh i liked better call saul more

manic wyvern
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Breaking bad Mario kart

thin bronze
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Like a true chud

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More like a 30 year old male

winter geode
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it's incredible that we got a video adapation into tv that doesn't suck

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after halo and resident evil its very nice to see

manic wyvern
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Breaking Bad games???

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Oh

winter geode
manic wyvern
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🏃‍♂️

winter geode
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yes

night marsh
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Go fuck yourself

winter geode
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WOAH

thin bronze
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Please don’t say that, it takes every fiber of my being to not make a joke

winter geode
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I WOULDNT TAKE THAT DISRESPECT

manic wyvern
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I hope you guys fall into lava and die because you were digging straight down

winter geode
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jokes on you, i dig in a 2x2 hole and stand in the center

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so i never fall down

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all the kids who've wanted to get diamonds just had their hopes crushed

night marsh
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<@&1214751635801251840>

manic wyvern
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I hope you lose all your cool loot

winter geode
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this server is crazy

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always some drama

manic wyvern
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Any last words man

winter geode
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LITERALLY