Ahsoka spoilers

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"You, yes you, your Jordans are fake"

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[lean sinew]

I hate you valkie

I looked on Tumblr for cool GIFs and I just came across an anakin smut

This is your fault

At least I got these

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bruh

when posting u just gotta delete the v from gif at the end and it'll work

https://64.media.tumblr.com/9f0bf31aafc448cf5c689f8aded51324/bf0ecc8edf5d0659-16/s540x810/1aef33239bf8afe6ac2ef08d790d06b67f4f4c20.gif

star wars fans down horrendous

[lean sinew]

Works fine for me

[lean sinew]

Bros are in love with a bowl cut

With a 😐 face

[finite saddle]

wait who tf u talking about

[lean sinew]

Shin obv

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bowl cut lmao what

[lean sinew]

🤨

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oh i see now

[lean sinew]

Her hairline is cut so perfectly that it looks like she used a bowl for the lines

[finite saddle]

not funny didnt laugh

[lean sinew]

Loving the Tumblr eyeshadow too

"what kinda eyeshadow style would you like"
"Yes"

[reef phoenix]

I personally think Shin has a punchable face.

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my honest reaction

[fierce trout]

👀

[boreal galleon]

I loved eps 3-7, but the finale felt kinda eh to me

Overall an enjoyable show which I might re watch

[lean sinew]

For me it's 5-8

The first four just blur together because it felt like they were dragging their feet

Tho I'm not super happy with decisions made by Filoni in episode 5 iirc

[stray crane]

which decision is that

[lean sinew]

Just the writing explaining things, a lot was set up in episode 5 and I think it was shaky despite finding its pace by the next episode

I'll probably watch it again at some point to more accurately state which parts

[stray crane]

i liked it

[lean sinew]

It wasnt bad

I did literally include it in the episodes I enjoyed

[solar yacht]

When I tell you this

and this

Made the remainder of my work day yesterday go by so much better

The feelings are mutual

I shan’t my friend

[stray crane]

🥹 ❤️

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[tribal pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-mcu-exhale-thanos-infinity-stone-gif-16660976

tfw the ahsoka ending gives at least the possibility that ventress is ressurrected so people are asking who could play her, and my suggestion gets posted by randos because I shitposted it enough on the internet in the past

(granted its not exactly something I want because it'll be filoni slop)

[high spire]

whatchu talking about “possibility that ventress is resurrected”

[tribal pelican]

im not typing it so have an image

tl;dr filoni will need lightsaber villains for his movie

[high spire]

bruh

how old was ventress

in tcw

nvm she was born in 50bby

[fierce trout]

"resurrect" she's dead?

Oh

[high spire]

so she’d be 62

in ahsoka

but it’ll still be stupid to bring her back

since her fate is unknown in canon

[tribal pelican]

except it is known

[fierce trout]

I thought she just disappeared

[tribal pelican]

nope

[high spire]

*refuses to elaborate*

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read (dont) dark disciple

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is that the one with quinlan vos

i thought it wasnt canon

[fierce trout]

Dark disciple is canon

Wait

Might be getting confused with Dooku Jedi Lost

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both are canon

[lean sinew]

Can they resurrect her..?

First I've heard of it

Thought it was zombie mode only

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"probably"

[lean sinew]

Bros desperation live on television for all to see

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just note that i dont want it if its filoni slop

[lean sinew]

If I used the "Find and Replace" command in your messages, changed ventress to ahsoka.. you are literally a generic Ahsoka simp

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now, to get into technicalities, she was "buried" in the living waters

[lean sinew]

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at least I think thats what it was called

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The living water is on Mandalor

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"2 things cant be called the same"

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maybe but it is confusing

[tribal pelican]

regardless of names, she isnt "buried" like the others

[lean sinew]

The good old "we don't see her body"

It could work tbf

[tribal pelican]

no, just not buried in the pods like the othere

[lean sinew]

Well that sounds like a nothing burger but honestly I wouldn't mind ventress back

If it isn't goofy af

Only if

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ventress is gone for good

[tranquil breach]

Somehow
Ventress returned

[lean sinew]

Yeah it's not like they have a chronic problem with killing off and resurrecting characters atm

Mfw Sabine survives a hit that kills qui gon

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https://tenor.com/view/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow-palpatine-poe-dameron-poe-gif-20849141

[tranquil breach]

She was in the perimeter of big deal

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[tribal pelican]

right im gonna infiltrate lucasfilm

scribble "sabine has been possessed by that ghost since the dathomir episode, it explains EVERYTHING" in red crayon over a bunch of notes and watch the chaos unfold

think about it

survive a hit that would kill anyone else?
random force sensitivity out of nowhere?

[stray crane]

huh

ventress is dead

[lean sinew]

Yeah, she died in the novel with her and Quinlan Vos

[tribal pelican]

(its not very good)

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Resurrect Ventress so she's like one of the hapless nightsister corpses in Clone Wars or Stormtroopers in Ahsoka? Fucking why

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bro didnt read the chat

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No I didn't

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One gets stabbed to the far right side the other to the heart, expects same result

[vernal quarry]

Anyway Filoni already doesn't give a shit about book/comic canon so if anything Ventress would've been rewritten to not have died (which is honestly better)

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True

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i dont have the hes true emoji

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They wouldnt go that far though

I think

[vernal quarry]

Nah. Slippery slope. He's 1 retcon away from it

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We'll see

In about 2 years

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From what I've seen this past week..its not impossible

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What makes you say that

[vernal quarry]

However there is the fact that fans would generally like to see Ventress back / live action Ventress which means we will either get it and it will be shit, or we will not get it at all

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Force sensitive Sabine.
It's not quite there but almost.

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Its not much of a retcon, but still bs

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Fair

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If they bring back ventress it better got a goodass explienation

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https://tenor.com/view/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow-palpatine-poe-dameron-poe-gif-20849141

[lean sinew]

[vernal quarry]

Force sensitive Sabine would be fine if they handled it like anyone with a functioning brain would've handled it. She shouldn't be good with it.

The lightsaber pull should've been more amateurish. Should've made it more shaky and slow. The force pushing Ezra shit shouldn't have happened at all. That's where they completely lost it.

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I wonder what nitwit directed that episode...

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Someone being paid by an apathetic hack within the pedophilic ring of Hollywood

[lean sinew]

Truly. I would've been over it by now if all she did was a shitty saber grab

[tribal pelican]

not filoni, apparently it was the guy who directed mando S3 finale

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just found out about this

[lean sinew]

So bro was lying when he said Sabine wasn't force sensitive lol

[vernal quarry]

The finale for Ahsoka was visually appealing. I thought people would understand that writing =/= directing with Ozymandias in Breaking Bad. But no. TLJ existed.

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Real…

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But it didn’t hit a VITAL organ or main dorsal vein, she also received PROMPT medical attention as clearly depicted on screen.”

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she clearly was using bacta bomb because shes a sweat

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFgErWIJ7HY

AHSOKABROS ITS JOEVER

[lean sinew]

Bro thinks I'm gonna click star wars YouTube content

https://tenor.com/view/serious-spider-man-laughing-hysterically-funny-simmons-gif-14530609

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oh yeah hes a total fandom menace type

brb i'll watch it, lets see how insane this gets

[lean sinew]

Good luck

Inb4 he converts you

[tribal pelican]

right so he repeats the same points I already had

but of course inserts the "MUH WOMEN" argument in it for no reason

[lean sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/npc-gif-26556764

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[slate mulch]

Somehow he may carry an extra brain cell then your typical fandom menace

Cause I can name others that say even dumber stuff and just bandwagon the stuff and then have a cultural war with eachother and getting caught up in the drama

[glacial current]

i mean the whole plot hole about the whale and eye of sion is actually on point

shit was stupid

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yea

and tbh the argument that hera is just there because shes yet another rebels character

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it's true

could have been some generic new republic higher up

[tribal pelican]

all of her scenes are kinda pointless

you could remove her from the show and nothing would really change

[glacial current]

the whole show is pointless lmao

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that too but for the sake of argument

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I dont even understand how Thraw is gonna fit

like

The First order

and all that

[tribal pelican]

its filoni

as the video said, he doesnt make stories to fit pre established canon

[pine robin]

Thrawn will become Snoke

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how reddit operates

"I dont like ahsoka"
posts legitimate criticism

1 million downvotes, everyone saying how OP is wrong despite not actually countering the criticism made

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They absolutely shit over Hera's character imo

She only had like two moments the whole show that felt like "okay that's definitely hera"

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hera kind of forgot she was in charge of the starhawk project

[lean sinew]

Filoni in the writers room:

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(hes talking to himself because no one else is in the writers room because he writes everything himself and it shows)

[lean sinew]

Aight too far

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but its facts

[lean sinew]

It's really not

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only 1 writer for ahsoka

[lean sinew]

Why must star wars fans either praise Filoni as god or lambast him as Satan

Can't he just be some shmuck who sometimes gets things right and sometimes gets things wrong

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Why people worhsip him in the first place ?

[lean sinew]

He did some good

They ignore the bad

And vice versa for the other extreme

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false notion that he made the clone wars

its pretty much all built on lies and ignorance of things that are bad

firstly, "he made the clone wars"
couple that with people only watching the good episodes because of viewing guides, leads to people overrating TCW, and thus him

then you have things like he worked on mando so people credit anything good to him, and when its bad they blame favearu for it

[glacial current]

Too much filler bullshit in TCW

thats why i loved 2003

It was straightforward with very few filler

[lean sinew]

Bro it's a fucking toy commercial

There's no time for filler

[lean sinew]

Yea like that

[tribal pelican]

just saw a post about how the episode came out 13 years ago today

but corruption was a good TCW episode

it features no main characters unless you count padme

[lean sinew]

Fwiw, Filoni wrote two of my favourite episodes of any animated star wars show

He HAS done good things.. just sometimes he's an absolute goof

I think he's where he should be, any higher up and I'd worry for the future tbh as it would be shaky in quality

[tribal pelican]

also noticed that filoni fans just dont really care about certain characters, they only "care" when its a name they recognize

if its not a character that was in the movies or ahsoka/rex/maul or a rebels character, they simply dont give a shit

unless of course that character gets a mention or cameo, then they go "I always liked that character!"

[lean sinew]

I feel like it requires conjecture to come to that conclusion

That's too specific

Imo

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lemme come up with an example

take TCW posters for example, the official ones

usually you'll have all the main characters on it, obi, ani, ahsoka, rex, dooku, ventress and usually yoda

because these are considered the main characters of the show
(plus yoda, he always seems to show up? brand recognition or something?)

now; filoni fans will make a poster like this

looks decent all things considered

but theres one character missing

why?
because they dont care about her

because shes not a movie character or ahsoka/rex

and coincidentally, ahsoka/rex/maul all showed up in rebels

[lean sinew]

wait are you implying padme?

i dont think she fits tbh

at least not for the intended style

[tribal pelican]

no, ventress

[lean sinew]

BRUH

how did i forgor

lame poster

how tf you gonna simp for sabers and not include ventress???

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and its not a case of "oh but no live action appearance"

bro just photoshop her from the SW celebration poster

[lean sinew]

🔥

she looks 🥶

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also the rebels art on that poster has pierce brosnan thrawn which is funny

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but back to the point

do you understand the point im trying to make?

[lean sinew]

the poster point yes

id agree

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People forgetting about Ventress smh

Fake SW fan

[lean sinew]

Right?? Especially when you're clearly a Filoni/saber simp

[teal sigil]

Plus Ventress is based

Better than Ashoka

[tribal pelican]

filoni fans
caring about a character who didnt appear in a movie or rebels

pick 1

[teal sigil]

[reef phoenix]

No episode this week.

):

[fierce trout]

I suppose because the dude gets so much overwhelming praise it’s hard to keep opinions about him balanced

[lean sinew]

True true

[vernal quarry]

Mary Elizabeth Winstead:

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I can't wait to do my bet

What do you guys think is the best scene

[high spire]

whats ur bet

[stray crane]

Make a drawing of the best scene

[grizzled schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/baylan-skoll-fighting-ray-stevenson-ahsoka-star-wars-gif-5551287064793926975

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Yeah

From what I remember I agree

It’s probably the most captivating sequence imo

[tribal pelican]

oh yeah best scene right there

its just "beast mode activated"

[solar yacht]

The difference in strength between those two is palpable

Visually speaking pretty gorgeous sequence imo, those starmap projections are wicked cool

[lean sinew]

Meh I preferred ahsoka Vs Morgan tbh

More solid choreography

Anakin Vs Ahsoka for me

[solar yacht]

Oh shit

[lean sinew]

The whole sequence of what anakins role in the universe is now, Hayden's incredible choreography, the cinematography of him swapping between all his different eras / styles, and some mentoring scenes that is quite fresh compared to how we've seen him mentor before

[solar yacht]

Bruh

I forgot about ani lol

[lean sinew]

This mf...

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Yeah his choreo is insane

[lean sinew]

This iconic ass move too

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I’m torn on which is my favourite between the two but they’re definitely my top two fav scenes for sure

[lean sinew]

Oh and I only learnt of this parallel after the fact, did anyone notice during it?

[lean sinew]

Very fair

[solar yacht]

Me waiting for these to load on Northern Ontario reception

[lean sinew]

Yes that's the problem with Tumblr GIFs

They're at least sexy af

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https://64.media.tumblr.com/77101b71199a3c32e6c819c01a21aa7d/f3cf84c2e6daf9eb-38/s540x810/cb5fd8ee50ffa86ddfd396765561b14d418c20c8.gif

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Oh yes yes, one of the gifs loaded (Luke’s!). So, I can’t honestly say I noticed this during the fight, but like you someone pointed it out afterward and it’s indeed a fantastic parallel

In the moment I just thought he was referring to a previous training session with Ahsoka, but to learn that he was actually referring to Luke is amazing

And it makes much more sense

Ahsoka and Ani obviously never fought to the death

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https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-ahsoka-anakin-spin-lightsaber-gif-13327425581755035402

tfw you still got them moves from 20 years ago so you just flex

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man it sucks how much he has to slow down because she cant keep up

[lean sinew]

I mean they make do, they give "sith anakin" more time to shine which is heavy swings as well as fast

Still think it's some of her best choreography, but Morgan fight definitely being her best

[tribal pelican]

and its not even her age thats the problem because the actress who plays morgan is something like 10 years older

[lean sinew]

It's probably just training regime

She got fan cast so she has a bit of leverage

"I don't wanna train that much"

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I’m going to do more close-looking to confirm this but I swear I actually saw Ahsoka make a move very similar if not exactly like this signature move of Anakin’s, during her fight with Morgan, pretty much before she offs Morgan @lean sinew

[lean sinew]

That would be berry epic

[atomic gazelle]

https://i.imgur.com/Vesaj4Z.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/dB0nzan.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/brtGYaX.mp4

I'm a Morgan stan now, all my homies hate Ahsoka

[high spire]

i still cant get over how cool enoch’s helmet is, just look at this render 😍

[grizzled schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[lean sinew]

Goofy ahhh rosario

[limber patio]

[fierce trout]

Midsoka

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https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-arrogance-your-arrogance-blinds-you-gif-7521418

[solar yacht]

At an end your rule is, and not short enough it was. - Yoda

(||he was wrong…||)

[lean sinew]

Palpatine: do you judge me by my size?

[tranquil breach]

"Judge me by unlimited powah do you Master Yoda?"

[lean sinew]

[solar yacht]

Lmao do us a favour and send that sticker of Palps’ intro animation to HvV

Well, mark shared it the one time so I’m assuming you have it too

[lean sinew]

I do not lol

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[solar yacht]

Does anyone remember what happened to Morgan’s blade

Did it vanish like Marrok’s intenstines or is Ahsoka gon loot that

[stray crane]

I think ahsoka has it

[solar yacht]

noice

Good loot

[stray crane]

Ahsoka's lightsaber was destroyed and now she has i guess a new blade

[solar yacht]

Yeah new blade

Very swanky

But she also still has her single lightsaber

Just no dual wielding…

Unless she uses the flame sword and her lightsaber

[stray crane]

I think that's the idea, yeah

[solar yacht]

Yo, actually

Maybe she’ll gift it to Huyang…

That would be fucking legendary

https://tenor.com/view/ahsoka-huyang-rosario-dawson-star-wars-ahsoka-tano-gif-1406412254933623101

It would help him survive long enough to see the outcome

[lean sinew]

Speaking of... Ezra getting Kanans emitter from Huyang was very heartfelt and I loved it

[solar yacht]

Tbh I’m pretty certain I loved everything to do with ezra minus him throwing his body at shin just to get one shot, and jumping to his apparent death

[lean sinew]

Not sure I remember tbh, idk why

[tranquil breach]

Okay one question. Is Huyang CG or Practical

Or both?

[lean sinew]

Probably both

[solar yacht]

He’s goated

[lean sinew]

True lol, that was very goofy

It looked like a shit excuse to separate them so it was shin Vs sabine

[solar yacht]

Yeah

Other than though (pretty much) he seems rather potent

And is really proficient in the ways of the Force

Especially TK manouvers

[lean sinew]

I love the idea that he learnt how to use the force as his primary weapon because he has no saber

Seems perfectly in line for the same guy who fashioned his saber in to a blaster too, shows great initiative

[solar yacht]

Yeah well said

He’s so proficient in the Force it’s a joy to watch

His augmentation seems greater than that of even Ahsoka

He is actually insanely fast

I loved when he dodged Shin’s saber strike to his neck, which would have decapitated him

He was so fast you can hardly even see him move, one second he’s there the next he’s not

My other favourite is when he just completely stonewalls another one of Shin’s saber strikes with his bare hands, idk why but that manouver is just such a massive flex to me

Almost on the same level as stopping a strike without moving (looking at you Vader vs. Reva from the Kenobi series)

[solar yacht]

This is also exactly what that one malevolent Force user pulls against that bumrusher Sith lady in the first episode of Star Wars Visions

[fierce trout]

Who are you talking about

Huyang? The droid?

[lean sinew]

Ezra

[fierce trout]

Now that I actually read the messages I get it 😂

[solar yacht]

Lmao

[solar yacht]

[solar yacht]

😏

[proper totem]

new ep tonight cant wait

[wicked kernel]

I love Huyang

Best character

[solar yacht]

Yeah he’s great

[wicked kernel]

Also I have to say that force users fighting someone with a lightsaber when they’re unarmed is always badass

[fierce trout]

Who-yang?

[solar yacht]

Idk why his spar with the enemy droid at the beginning of episode 4 is so underrated though

I mean, it’s nothing crazy special

But

Man kind of threw down

Especially for a protocol droid

And how often do you see droids duking

[tranquil breach]

He threw hands in the TCW ep he debuts in too

[candid pine]

Man's 25k years old and throwing hands like it's no one's business

[solar yacht]

Oh nice

That’s dope

[tranquil breach]

Well not hands more like...independently operating torso and legs

[solar yacht]

He’s a lover not a fighter…

[wicked kernel]

Poor Shin gets clowned on by Ezra and then Ahsoka

[solar yacht]

Are there any droids in SW who are referred to or known as females or is that not a thing

[wicked kernel]

The pink R2 who’s name I can’t remember

[lean sinew]

For real, I loved the idea that Ezra had no saber but still wanted to train. Probably so he could protect these fellers

[wicked kernel]

R2-KT that’s it

I think

[solar yacht]

That’s cool

[solar yacht]

Perhaps true but Shin also one shots Ezra in the final episode

[wicked kernel]

Another classic “introduce new badass looking troopers only to have them be just as incompetent as regular STs”

[wicked kernel]

LMAO SHIN JUST RUNS AWAY LOL

[solar yacht]

I would too if Baylan was my daddy

[candid pine]

Why sabine just standing there like 🚶

[tranquil breach]

Iirc there are feminine-programmed Tactical Droids

The fucking
Female droid that Anakin stumbles apon in the Senate building during the Bane 2 parter

That weird droid spa on corusant too

But none of these are really notable

[lean sinew]

Bro they literally are regular stormtroopers

I don't get this take circulating

Changing the name of your job title from "cashier" to "customer service salesman" does not change the role

[lean sinew]

Because Ezra running right at shin made zero logistical sense and bro lost all self preservation in that moment.. so naturally Sabine has to do fucking nothing because it doesn't work otherwise

[wicked kernel]

“Wow I thought Ezra would have gotten smarter by now”

[lean sinew]

LOL

[solar yacht]

“Take her Ezra, take her- NOW”

gets one shot

[lean sinew]

"we'll take him togeth-"
"No I'm taking him NOW"

[solar yacht]

But yeah this is phenomenal and I loved every second of it

It is truly such a joy to watch

[lean sinew]

Something about holding pure weightless plasma with the force that's oh so cool

I wonder if this means we will eventually get kreia style saber fighting from someone

In canon anyway

[solar yacht]

What other examples of this combat do we have besides say, Vader vs. Reva?

In live action

AotC Obi vs. Ani in the Kenobi series flashbacks was really cool, but that only lasted a few seconds and Obi didn’t use any force moves in any way besides disarming Ani

[fierce trout]

The Force is my ally

[lean sinew]

It's fairly new so I don't think anything canon really

[fierce trout]

Uh TLJ?

[solar yacht]

that’s all I need 😏

[fierce trout]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-lightsaber-fight-scene-dodge-gif-16465897

Oh I thought luke was unarmed lol

Wtf he never had a saber in that fight

[solar yacht]

I mean, he might as well have been unarmed though, so for me that counts

And that was fucking incredible indeed

His dodge was like

then the little spin to face

[solar yacht]

[wicked kernel]

Watching finale and I have a few points

1. Sabine has the force ok sure that’s cool
2. Zombie stormtroopers are cool

[stray crane]

mhm

[solar yacht]

Good timing with Halloween approaching and all too imo

[lean sinew]

Sabine is a Mary Sue, though Scorch reminded us of the fact that kanan suggested she had a block not a lack of ability

Which makes sense given Mandalorian culture towards jedi and the force ig

[vernal quarry]

Well you can't not have your sarcastic, moody single woman with a messy, cramped apartment, cat, and short, unnaturally colored hair be a mary sue.

[lean sinew]

Cringe, keep that sexist take away from me please

[grizzled schooner]

I’M FREE

So my biggest disappointment is Thrawn

he displayed no actual tactician ingenuity beyond using magic which I mean cool I guess

at the cost of stormtroopers that he can’t afford to lose

Any halfway competent officer would’ve docked beyond the reach of the Jedi after knowing that they took out their only ship

and there’s of course Sabine just gaining the Force

so memesoon can add that to the list

on top of being a Mandalorian Princess she’s also an expert level artist with famous artwork, an engineer with enough skill to develop a weapon that makes armor a liability, a skilled pilot thanks to the Imperial Academy, and now a Jedi padawan with very strong feats considering she couldn’t move a cup a few episodes ago

plus Darksaber wielder

it’s just boring

not to mention le lore implications

and yeah mental blocks are a thing

they’ve been around since Kotor 2 I think

but still

of all the characters to buff, Sabine Wren was definitely not the one to do it

Also if the defense of Sabine being force sensitive is that one time Kanan said there might be a block

and no one else brought it up, not Ezra, not the various Inquisitors that they fought against, not Ahsoka in Rebels

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-cmon-man-us-president-candidate-gif-16967331

did any crackpot author write it in a book

or comic

idk

Anyways

A lot of the emotional moments in the show really fell flat for me

The biggest one is Ezra and Hera reuniting

I mean I ride pretty hard on the Rebels mid train but still

I was excited to see this

and they don’t say anything to each other

what a fuckload of bullshit

also Ahsoka and Ezra’s reuniting

same thing happens

And zombie stormtroopers were alright

but they were just pretty lazy

classic walkers with nothing special

no one has any chopped off limbs or

anything cool like that

Except for the one single death trooper Sabine fought

And they get right back to running normally after a couple minutes so it’s like what the hell

There still continues to be zero tension when the bad guys are fighting the good guys

I continue to miss andor gunfights

but whatever

The Morgan vs Ahsoka duel was alright

nothing crazy

and yeah that’s it

Thrawn’s out and about

all 8 episodes could’ve been condensed to three being frank

continuing to live in the “solo failed so we can’t make spin off movies” era

uh yeah

4/10

try again

[solar yacht]

Very based

I’d honestly give it a pass tho at 5.2 just cuz of baylan

[grizzled schooner]

I give it a 4 mostly because of Shin and Baylan

I also appreciate Senator Xiono

because now I can see how the Republic collapsed so easily if people like him were in charge

[lean sinew]

Hardcore disagree

Palpatine couldn't get the nightsisters on his side, yet thrawn has somehow convinced them to have dying loyalty.

He sends men to die, but is EXTREMELY efficient with his lack of resources. He forced ahsoka in to positions that benefitted him. He has managed to escape an inescapable place simply from the words coming out of his mouth

For once he let people go and it wasn't for no reason lol

[lean sinew]

6/10 for me but the first few episodes blur together because they were so boring

[grizzled schooner]

Did Palpatine ever try to get the nightsisters on his side though

[lean sinew]

Yes.

[grizzled schooner]

When

in TCW?

[lean sinew]

Talzin gave maul so she could say no

[grizzled schooner]

buh?

is this a book

[lean sinew]

TCW

[grizzled schooner]

and gave Maul what

[lean sinew]

Wait what someone lied to me

She had said yes to being his apprentice apparently..?

Tf

[grizzled schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[grizzled schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-phoenix-wright-aceattorney-gif-10033487

[lean sinew]

While he was still a child, Mother Talzin became an ally of Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith, the two beings exchanging knowledge of Dark Side arcana and Nightsister magicks.

So that docks some points off thrawn tbh

He's just rebels thrawn all over again ig

[grizzled schooner]

That doesn’t even make any sense

Why

buh?

Why did he send Grievous after them again?

[lean sinew]

Because talzin and the nightsisters are the only people who can contend palpatine tbh

Palpatine no likey

[grizzled schooner]

🤓 ☝️

Palpatine didn’t order it

Dooku did

my bad

[lean sinew]

I mean.. who told dooku to lol

Palpatine would not stand for dooku doing that of his own accord

[grizzled schooner]

Palpatine told him to kill Ventress

Ventress took refuge with the nightsisters

Dooku killed the nightsisters

[lean sinew]

Damn

Cold

[grizzled schooner]

I mean I’m sure Palpatine wasn’t bothered

[lean sinew]

I wonder if it's because they knew she was resurrectable...

Memesoon is rubbing off on me

[grizzled schooner]

But Dooku did it of his own accord it seems

[lean sinew]

[grizzled schooner]

I mean in most situations the nightsisters don’t seem like 100 percent hostile people all the time

[lean sinew]

Yes but when they are, magick is scary

It's a good thing dooku didn't need his eyes to see

[grizzled schooner]

least Chad dooku moment

[lean sinew]

Fr

That line was absolute fire

[grizzled schooner]

Anyways I don’t doubt that in a situation where they can both be benefited like the one with Thrawn’s exile that someone of average competence could negotiate a partnership

The Nightsisters aren’t shoot first don’t ask questions type people

[lean sinew]

Yeah this made it a lot less interesting to me

My concept was cooler tbh

If palpatine struggled with the nightsisters but thrawn had enough rizz

[grizzled schooner]

That would have actually been cool

[lean sinew]

But now he's just rebels thrawn

Which is fine but

[grizzled schooner]

can’t have shit in the Core Worlds

[lean sinew]

It's not peak thrawn innit

I still vastly prefer him to gideon

Holy fuck I hate gideon

[grizzled schooner]

Definitely

[lean sinew]

Boring one note piece of shit

[grizzled schooner]

He was fine in season one but he straight ass in 3

[lean sinew]

Only fine tho

Clearly giancarlos only direction was "do that thing you always do"

[grizzled schooner]

Yeah

Which was alright

He wasn’t supposed to be anything special

Just a standard post Endor warlord

[fierce trout]

I like gideon existing tho because I can point to him whenever filoni claims that thrawn is unique "because he's not an evil red lightsaber villain"

[grizzled schooner]

But now he’s cloning and shit

and you already know a Clone Gideon is gonna show up in Season 4

[lean sinew]

I've seen a clip of thrawn thinking "we could put a generic officer here but why do that when fans have already established love for a character. Then it's deciding on if we can make them fit without ruining that established understanding of the character"

I'm paraphrasing but it was one of those Filoni Ws

Bro flipping a coin on if he's stupid or smart regarding star wars

[fierce trout]

I think I know that clip

[grizzled schooner]

Thrawn said that?

[lean sinew]

Fucking Gideon worked out force sensitive cloning. Fucking. Gideon.

[fierce trout]

I was referencing a clip where filoni said thrawn is unique because "he doesn't use a red lightsaber or the force". My guy thrawn IS unique but not because of that

[grizzled schooner]

classic Thrawn dub, planning the narrative itself

[lean sinew]

No that's Filoni lol

If I had to guess, he's referring choosing a new figure like Gideon or bringing someone back like thrawn

[grizzled schooner]

more competent villain variety please

[lean sinew]

Valid

[grizzled schooner]

Need more mid rank villains like Meero in my life

[lean sinew]

Yoo her ranking officer is such an amazing casting

Then again, Andor casting is fire this is known

[grizzled schooner]

Andor _____ is fire

just fill in anything

[lean sinew]

Major Partagaz

[grizzled schooner]

Who is that again

is that the fat Officer on Aldhani with his family

(nice reference to officers in colonial territories)

[fierce trout]

No I think he's meero's superior

[lean sinew]

So basically... the new republic needed an ISB lmao

[fierce trout]

In the white suit

Yeah

[grizzled schooner]

Oh yeah

[lean sinew]

He stole the room

He felt like a scary presence for the officers

Yet fair and just

[grizzled schooner]

Indeed

[grizzled schooner]

The New Republic could’ve learned a lot of things from the Empire

[fierce trout]

Also a fan of Cereal's little work buddy from his time at ferrix. The guy who got laid off then contacted him later from a mine or something

Idk the name of the character

But I liked him

[grizzled schooner]

Yep

fuck what was his name

[lean sinew]

My eye twitches everytime I think of soyboy wojak character

[grizzled schooner]

portly guy with a British accent

[fierce trout]

Maize or something idk

Cereal and Maize

[lean sinew]

[grizzled schooner]

His name was Linus Musk

Linus Mosk

[lean sinew]

Holy extrapolation

[fierce trout]

[grizzled schooner]

I like Mosk, he’s another good example of a loyal low rank imperial

He just believes in the system

[fierce trout]

Yeah but he felt like a real person lol and not a faceless grunt

[lean sinew]

Yeah mosk is cool in a scumbag kinda way

[grizzled schooner]

Karn’s got weird mental issues goin on but as far as I can tell Mosk is just a guy born in the wrong time

[fierce trout]

This reminds of that that old dude from lizzo's planet in Mando S3 that was a separatist. He truly believed in count dooku's ideals

[grizzled schooner]

yeah that was random

but cool I guess

[fierce trout]

Too bad the mandalorian is allergic to interesting content so they stunned him and dragged him off to a cell before we could explore that

[grizzled schooner]

yep

pure shock value

[lean sinew]

Which is a shame because I enjoyed the "detective" part of it

Watching Mando get back handed by a b2 was amazing

[grizzled schooner]

woah a separatist after Endor!? Wowee?!?!

Let’s never talk about Separatism again

[fierce trout]

Like yeah....Dooku had a point. Ofc he'd still have supporters in that era. Would be nice to see the political standpoints of people who are witnessing the failure of the new republic

[fierce trout]

No mate it was the opposite of shock value. Everything else in that ep (lizzo, jack black, grogu being knighted) was shock value

The old separatist was the actually interesting part

[lean sinew]

Yea

Ngl tho I think jack black was fine, they gave him the one character that doesn't make his inclusion brain-dead bad

[grizzled schooner]

I guess, but it was only interesting for maybe

[fierce trout]

But they failed to capitalise on that bit and dragged him off before anything could be done smh

[grizzled schooner]

However long his speech is

[lean sinew]

Mando checking his watch during it too I bet

[fierce trout]

Pretty sure bo-katan even pokes fun at us for daring to hope for political intrigue by saying "pfft. politics." as an actual line

[grizzled schooner]

Yes

I remember that

[lean sinew]

Meanwhile Andor fans

YESSS MORE MON MOTHMA

[grizzled schooner]

even though that mother fucker

Was the queen of Mandalore

and is still trying to become the Queen of Mandalore

[fierce trout]

Maybe 5 seconds? He had a total of 2 sentences iirc before bo stunned him

[grizzled schooner]

her entire life revolves around the battle against Imperial ideology

[fierce trout]

Anyway yeah that was a good casting in Mando S3 before they wasted the character

More villains with believable motives please

[grizzled schooner]

As a famous Irishman once said, no politics was politics

[fierce trout]

[grizzled schooner]

Bo Katan just wants Mando to never discover that she was once working with the Separatists

[fierce trout]

The separatists had a point

The trade federation and the corporate overlords just went and fucked it all up

But their core idealogy was correct and why dooku left in the first place

[grizzled schooner]

that’s how everything is

as a different guy with a beard said I miss the idea of it but not the reality

[solar yacht]

Lol

0/10 if not for Lord Baylan

[lean sinew]

I'd hate to see you guys rate Kenobi and bobf lol

-10/10

[grizzled schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wanna-get-nuts-bruce-wayne-michael-keato-the-flash-movie-do-you-want-to-go-crazy-gif-14067597668759761906

[lean sinew]

Deez nuts

[tribal pelican]

just wanna note that ever since that episode came out, up until this show, nobody said this was proof of sabine actually being force sensitive

but now its used as 100% undeniable evidence that she was the entire time

curious.

[grizzled schooner]

ON GOD

[tribal pelican]

nobody was arguing that she was force sensitive

[grizzled schooner]

it doesn’t even seem like Kanan thought she was force sensitive

just less open to the will of the force

which are two different things as demonstrated by Chirrut Imwe

[lean sinew]

Because that's how foreshadowing works lol

You don't know it was foreshadowing until it happens, often

[grizzled schooner]

i really don’t think that Filoni knew that Sabine was force sensitive back then

[lean sinew]

I do

[grizzled schooner]

and even if he did that’s it?

that’s the foreshadowing?

[lean sinew]

https://twitter.com/dave_filoni/status/1103112187973754880

2019 btw

[tribal pelican]

cool its not just me on why twitter embeds are filing

failing

[grizzled schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[lean sinew]

Hang on I'll get a sc

Link fail*

Dumbass

[grizzled schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/onlinesequencer-os-sequence-epic-sequence-link-fail-jacob_-gif-24000477

[lean sinew]

Looks like he planned for Sabine to be an apprentice (or at least toyed with the idea) for a long time

[tribal pelican]

why does rebels even need a hastag like that lets be real here

[lean sinew]

You can create any hashtag on the planet from a single tweet that nobody ever saw

Tf kinda take is that

[tribal pelican]

rebels fans are delusional

[grizzled schooner]

yeah I hashtagged pissing on the toilet seat in 2017

[lean sinew]

Fr

[grizzled schooner]

it was fire

you guys should check out my Twitter

I forgot the name to it

[lean sinew]

Me at 14 thinking I'm so edgy for saying #HashtagsSuck

[grizzled schooner]

and I only made one tweet

but trust me it’s good

[tranquil breach]

Where on Earth did Ahsoka's weird staff go?

[grizzled schooner]

Anyways yeah cool art

[tranquil breach]

Retconned out of existence

[lean sinew]

Where the sun don't shine

[grizzled schooner]

it never existed

Sabine was on death sticks

[tribal pelican]

it was put in fortnite

[grizzled schooner]

Oh ok

That makes sense

Anyways once again could’ve been foreshadowed better or just don’t make her force sensitive mk she’s already a pretty cracked character without being a wizard

[tribal pelican]

sabine is coldsteel the hedgeheg

[grizzled schooner]

literally two lines is barely foreshadowing

[lean sinew]

Yes I agree

[tranquil breach]

The show went out of their way to say that Sabine's potential was very low.

[lean sinew]

I mean it's very possible it was just an idea back then

So one line is plenty imo

[grizzled schooner]

Before showing her throw Ezra a couple hundred meters

[lean sinew]

I'd rather they used one line that could be applied to the situation than set up something that never happens

[grizzled schooner]

Yeah I guess?

but

it’s not sufficient for this twist

[tribal pelican]

fuck it

raise the stakes

sabine actually dies trying to grab the lightsaber

[lean sinew]

It wouldn't be a twist if she didn't do that absolutely fucking stupid Mary sue push

They couldn't even make Ezra push HER?

Like wat

[finite saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-starfield-bug-gif-1668255324492204991

[lean sinew]

Sabine has to be stranded tho fuck logic!!!

[grizzled schooner]

The Death Trooper reaches for HIS gun that all death troopers come equipped with standard and shoots her in the face

[finite saddle]

bro he's got a zombie brai nnow

[tranquil breach]

Would it not be foreshadowing and (ptsd of tlj discourse) be a subversion of expectation.

[grizzled schooner]

then the Bad Batch outro plays because that’s hard as fuck

[lean sinew]

Ngl I thought it was gonna be ahsoka pushing it towards her lol

[grizzled schooner]

[lean sinew]

Would've been a sick double down

But noooo Filoni has no balls

[tribal pelican]

or ezra

for the fakeout

[lean sinew]

Yea

[grizzled schooner]

yeah what’s with Ezra being like “the force is my ally” and then sparingly using it

[tranquil breach]

That would've been better

[lean sinew]

Would've been a good "ok but not everybody has to be a force user guys" moment

But nooooo

[grizzled schooner]

He could’ve force thrown those death troopers like starkiller but nooooo

[tribal pelican]

of the rebels crew
excluding chopper
66% are force sensitive

[grizzled schooner]

there’s a difference between subverting expectations and pulling stuff out of your butt

[tranquil breach]

[lean sinew]

Suddenly the never dying to anything in rebels makes sense...

[tribal pelican]

im telling you guys

reveal that sabine has been possessed this entire time and everything will be better

i can fix dave filonis shitty writing

[lean sinew]

Fix it by being worse than it

[grizzled schooner]

Captain America wielding Mjolinir is a very good example of subverting expectations, because you know that he’s always been a pretty morally good guy and he’s had this journey throughout the years and yadda yadda

Sabine just has the Force now and that’s it

[lean sinew]

[tribal pelican]

so bad its good

[lean sinew]

What

You fucking what

You think

[grizzled schooner]

Yes

Cry

[tribal pelican]

yes

[lean sinew]

Mjolnir is subverting

When Ultron happened

You dumbass

[grizzled schooner]

Oh yeah

[lean sinew]

Fake fan

[grizzled schooner]

that movie I watched once and then never again because it was so MID

[lean sinew]

HEY! it's slightly above average

Compare it to current MCU too...

[grizzled schooner]

emphasis on the slight

[grizzled schooner]

unfortunately

[tribal pelican]

marvel slop

[lean sinew]

Truly

[tribal pelican]

capeshit

[lean sinew]

Memesoon did you hear Loki got in shit for AI stuff too

[grizzled schooner]

But you understand my point

[tribal pelican]

it was the poster right?

[lean sinew]

Apparently they broke a licensing agreement with Shutterstock for a poster

Yea

[tribal pelican]

i only saw a headline of it

[lean sinew]

In the way that it was done better. Yes

[grizzled schooner]

Yes

can’t really think of any other famous subversions rn

[lean sinew]

I'm never gonna shut up about the Mary sue push tbh

[grizzled schooner]

anyone watch Reservoir Dogs

[lean sinew]

I guarantee none of the Rey haters bring it up

Cuz Filoni God

[lean sinew]

||it's okay||

Don't hurt me

[tribal pelican]

scorcese will save cinema

[grizzled schooner]

Hold on I’m making a meme for this

[tribal pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-a-meme-for-this-wait-here-i-got-a-meme-for-this-wwdc-wwdc2022-discord-gif-gif-25944793

[fierce trout]

It's pronounced Ashoka*

Fake fan

[lean sinew]

lol

[grizzled schooner]

would’ve made it longer but I’m lazy and also I don’t know if I can post someone getting their ear cut off here

[grizzled schooner]

I forgot who but someone was malding about Thrawn saying long live the empire

whoever’s doing that is a nerd

I know it’s one of you

[tribal pelican]

i think it was me

because he doesnt really support the empire

[lean sinew]

Why would I mald about that lol

[grizzled schooner]

speaking to the server

[lean sinew]

No but like actually why is it maldable

[grizzled schooner]

yeah but he’s literally spitting in Ahsoka’s face by saying it

it doesn’t matter what he thinks

it’s just rubbing salt into the victory wound

[lean sinew]

[grizzled schooner]

Ahsoka hates the Empire

[tribal pelican]

of which wasnt really a victory lets be real here

[lean sinew]

Wait

If ahsoka advised and helped mentor Luke

[grizzled schooner]

getting back to the galaxy is a dub

[lean sinew]

Does that mean she can take credit for the OT

[tribal pelican]

bro loses pretty much every engagement and then goes "If I say ive won....then ive won"

[lean sinew]

I mean he was reking them

[grizzled schooner]

the first battle was pathetic

[lean sinew]

And he did mention how jedi are scarily persistent and not to be underestimated

[grizzled schooner]

the 2nd one was ok

he left their only avenue of attack open the entire battle though

Also I hate how I was malding about Thrawn not using bombardment against them and then when he does it it just DOESN’T WORK

https://tenor.com/view/angry-video-game-nerd-mad-avgn-frown-emotional-gif-16682306

[lean sinew]

That was kinda dumb ngl

[tribal pelican]

why didnt he place mines around the fortress

[lean sinew]

Bros simply hit the griddy on a horse and they're fine

[grizzled schooner]

maybe he didn’t have mines

[lean sinew]

Limited resources

[tribal pelican]

he wasted them all in space

[lean sinew]

Mentioned multiple times

[grizzled schooner]

they don’t seem very common

in Star Wars

[tribal pelican]

IEDs

[lean sinew]

Space mines =/= ground mines

[grizzled schooner]

yeah there’s a difference between sea and ground mines

[lean sinew]

😐

The mines were also only to funnel ahsoka to where he wanted so he could buy more time

Which worked

[grizzled schooner]

IEDs still require resources for what at that point is very little return

[lean sinew]

He was very ahead by that point

[grizzled schooner]

Artillery bombardment should’ve did the job

[lean sinew]

Did their mounts even die

[grizzled schooner]

No

[lean sinew]

They really really should have

Like yeah ok jedi bullshit but the mounts are fine? Not even broken ankles?

[grizzled schooner]

that entire sequence was dumb as a bag of wet dirt

I do like Thrawn’s reaction

because it was my reaction

If there is any example of plot armor

there it is

[tribal pelican]

if i was thrawn i would have sent out a shuttle to hover outside the ship while the bombardment was happening to take additional potshots

[grizzled schooner]

No, you wouldn’t have

because you would have expected the artillery to kill them

[tribal pelican]

i would, im a tactical genius

[grizzled schooner]

Because you have hindsight

[tribal pelican]

why take chances

[lean sinew]

What, they would get bombarded lol

[grizzled schooner]

He didn’t

[tribal pelican]

not directly under the ship

[lean sinew]

Thrawn used every resource available to their max potential, ahsoka is just op when Filoni is writing her

[lean sinew]

Then what good would it do that the orbital can't? You wouldn't even be able to see them through the explosions

[grizzled schooner]

There is nothing that Thrawn reasonably could have done better in that engagement

[tribal pelican]

thrawn kind of forgot he was a tactical genius

[lean sinew]

No not really

He's just not legends level

[tribal pelican]

holy shit dave just get zahn to write thrawn in actually begging right now

[grizzled schooner]

Not moving the Star destroyer to orbit immediately is a pretty big blunder

[lean sinew]

Zahn likes rebels thrawn.

Says Filoni understands him.

[grizzled schooner]

Yeah there’s a difference between him and Ahsoka

[tribal pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-raiden-senator-armstrong-source-gif-25038929

[lean sinew]

Again? Ffs

[grizzled schooner]

I don’t think Thrawn ever took any blatantly worthless risks in rebels

at least not on purpose

[solar yacht]

[grizzled schooner]

bendu kinda fucked his streak up

[tribal pelican]

"im going to pass command to my 2nd in command who has already failed me due to incompetence so i can accept surrender in pers-

oh wait she already fucked up

[grizzled schooner]

I mean that worked out

he only lost on lothal when the actual magic system turned against him

again…

[lean sinew]

https://youtu.be/S93E0DMUqeA
Proof they had talks with Zahn

Proof he liked rebels thrawn:

[grizzled schooner]

Also wasn’t Thrawn busy with the Emperor

that takes precedence

Pryce was the most competent person available

it’s not his fault the Empire exclusively produces egomaniacs

[tribal pelican]

like bro just....accept surrender normally

[grizzled schooner]

Accept whose surrender

[fierce trout]

It was me lol

[lean sinew]

😭

[grizzled schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-fred-table-body-slam-fred2-gif-19611734

[fierce trout]

Damn

[grizzled schooner]

this is a funny ass gif holy fuck

[lean sinew]

It was also how fast you replied it

W response

[grizzled schooner]

I’m just him

[lean sinew]

Memesoon went silent after I dropped the mic..

Curious...

[grizzled schooner]

@tribal pelican WHOSE SURRENDER I HAVENT WATCHED REBELS IN A WHILE

[lean sinew]

Hahaha

Bro in caps

[grizzled schooner]

with any luck I will never see it again

except for like

the one episode with the

um

[lean sinew]

I really wanna rewatch it but I know I will form a hatred like never before for Zeb

Because anytime he's involved in the episode, it's a fucking kid friendly episode

(except him and kallus)

[grizzled schooner]

APeak-5 singing

[lean sinew]

I wonder if someone has made a bendu watch order

Best arc

[fierce trout]

I say I haven't watched rebels but I did watch the first 2 seasons and the zeb/kallus episode is the only one I remember

[lean sinew]

Makes sense lol

[grizzled schooner]

Because it’s the only good episode in the first two seasons

[lean sinew]

Season 3-4 has some peak moments like kanan training Sabine or bendu and kanan

[fierce trout]

I must have started s3 as well because I do also remember the episode with bendu (peak)

[grizzled schooner]

um

[lean sinew]

Strange how kanan is involved both times...

[grizzled schooner]

minister tua blowing up was funny

[fierce trout]

[lean sinew]

Oh also any scene where Hera and kanan get to express themselves together

Holy fuck I love their relationship so much

It's so REAL

[grizzled schooner]

I really love how Tarkin gets pissed off at the Rebels on lothal and goes to try to stop them and gets styled on so hard his own Star destroyer fucking explodes

[lean sinew]

"we love eachother deep down but also who the fuck has the time rn and we might die tomorrow"

[grizzled schooner]

(because Tarkin actually isn’t an effective commander)

[lean sinew]

Yeah tarkin is good at politics, not much else

[grizzled schooner]

Creating a burgeoning Empire and want to ruin its Officer corps and battle doctrine? Try this one simple trick!

1. Tarkin doctrine

[fierce trout]

Not surprising that the ideas it's based upon make perfect sense but he fucked it up when applying them

[lean sinew]

Someone should use AI to create a discord debate between thrawn and tarkin

That would be hilarious

[grizzled schooner]

No it doesn’t even make sense

The more force you apply to a dissident population the more they push back against you

just look at (insert any guerrilla war here)

Vietnam, Algeria, Yugoslavia, fuck, Mimban

[fierce trout]

That was the actual doctrine but the idea was simply rule by fear and superiority which worked during tarkin's time as a marshal for eriadu

It worked so well that palps promoted him pretty much instantly

[grizzled schooner]

It worked there because Eraidu probably had comfortable living standards for its voting populace

which the Empire didn’t

[fierce trout]

Yeah and he also decided to blow up a planet thinking there'd be no repercussions

[lean sinew]

Ah yes the iconic planet of "fuck"

[grizzled schooner]

Yeah that’s were Ham City is

[fierce trout]

Algeria is my favourite planet

[lean sinew]

Isn't Vietnam just ajan kloss

[fierce trout]

Endor

[limber patio]

Poland planet when

[fierce trout]

[grizzled schooner]

corellia

[limber patio]

Yea

[lean sinew]

Cuz it's toxic af

[grizzled schooner]

Corellia is just any Eastern Europe country

[limber patio]

https://tenor.com/view/poland-gif-27439277

[lean sinew]

America is wherever the new republic headquarters is (fucking useless)

[grizzled schooner]

No it’s Coruscant

[lean sinew]

Oh hi ikr

[grizzled schooner]

Pretends to be the best

[limber patio]

Carter and ikr meetup 😊

[grizzled schooner]

it’s actually not great for most people and downright unpleasant for the underclass

[lean sinew]

I also love that the UK is missing

Common UK L

[grizzled schooner]

Coruscant does love to oppress the galaxy though

so

dub

Also the upper class is obscenely rich

to the point of utter and ridiculous decadence

yadda yadda

[lean sinew]

Mon Mothma's life is extremely luxurious

That view 🔥

https://youtu.be/JTuu9m8u7TI

Lol they knew it

[fierce trout]

UK is Naboo

Beautiful countryside

Shit people

[grizzled schooner]

No

needs more colonialism

[fierce trout]

Prolly Rakata then lmfao

Used to be a great empire

Now completely irrelevant

[tranquil breach]

What is Tatooine

3rd world shithole with colonial conflict and crime lords

[tribal pelican]

america?

[tranquil breach]

3rd world unironically