#Ahsoka spoilers

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grizzled schooner
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Fuck

wicked kernel
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Yay child soldiers

grizzled schooner
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Alright well I’m not an expert

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maybe they could’ve made her look a little older on Mandalore

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not really that big of a deal

tribal pelican
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tbh no real reason for mandalore to be there

wicked kernel
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Ok they let Rex talk I was worried he wasn’t going to say anything at all

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I kinda expected more from him

grizzled schooner
wicked kernel
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Anakin looks a lot better with different lighting

slate mulch
wicked kernel
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Ooh evil Anakin

slate mulch
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we haven't seen him

wicked kernel
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In the flashback I mean

slate mulch
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at minimum he might be just retired

wicked kernel
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Maybe he’ll be alive in the present day

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Oh boy Vader time

tribal pelican
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me in the (empty) theatre for the ahsoka episode 5 showing as i watch my dreams of live action clone wars become cheaply made fanservice slop

wicked kernel
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Daddy Dave why hast thou forsaken us

wicked kernel
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Ahsoka without the headdress stuff is cursed

grizzled schooner
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oh yeah

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it’s crazy

glacial current
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man it feels so weird watching anakin

wicked kernel
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Huyang remains the best part of this show

tribal pelican
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take a shot every time live action ahsoka crosses her arms stoically

glacial current
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What Chopper think of jacen

glacial current
wicked kernel
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I hate the canon New Republic

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With all my heart

glacial current
wicked kernel
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This show has given me a new hatred the how canon NR

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Undying

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Permanent

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Hatred

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Such a disappointment

glacial current
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Disney just dont care

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They are focused on the characters

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not the world around

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thats why everything in the sequels is just a ripoff of the original and prequels

wicked kernel
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I cannot wait for them to butcher the Thrawn Campaign

slate mulch
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We only have like…4 or 5

glacial current
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They should just have reworked the old republic storyline

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in 3 movies

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Rise of Revan , Fall of Revan, Return of Revan

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And could have still played on the choosen one trope and use already successfull characters without taking any risk

wicked kernel
glacial current
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1 job , just nail the casting

wicked kernel
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That’s what they’re doing

slate mulch
wicked kernel
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I think they’re doing some cool stuff with that

slate mulch
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It’s basically old republic but GOLD

wicked kernel
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Not really

glacial current
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I never heard anything cool from the new republic

wicked kernel
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The whole Jedi v Sith dynamic isn’t there

slate mulch
wicked kernel
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Hell yea space whales

glacial current
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One whats thing cool from the new republic ?

wicked kernel
slate mulch
glacial current
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I agree too

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I thought about something close to the valkorion empire

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like a new class of force users

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I dont know if star wars can work without the whole force thing in the general public

grizzled schooner
glacial current
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It would be close to anakin

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but with different motivation

grizzled schooner
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And more importantly Disney wanted to piss their own mark onto the canvas

glacial current
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Yeah but why they copied the original

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like

grizzled schooner
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TFA is pretty safe but TLJ definitely isn’t a copy of the OT

glacial current
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bro

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Wallmart Hoth

slate mulch
glacial current
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Wallmater superdestroyer

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Like why the knight of ren wasnt used

grizzled schooner
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yeah that’s superficial as fuck

glacial current
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it was litteraly the only oriignal thing

grizzled schooner
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The only thing?

glacial current
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Yeah

grizzled schooner
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so jaded Jedi Luke wasn’t original?

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or the relationship between Rey and Kylo?

glacial current
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The main hero being an old jaded and bitterman ?

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come on

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overused

glacial current
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why they have this connection

slate mulch
glacial current
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and again , it was probably made on the way

grizzled schooner
glacial current
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never planned in the first place

grizzled schooner
glacial current
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yeah but its a general trope , not something belonging in star wars

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like take Count Dooku for example

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We dont have anything close to Dooku in the sequels

grizzled schooner
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so old jaded Luke isn’t copying the OT

glacial current
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Fucking Jango

grizzled schooner
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you’re moving goalposts

glacial current
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Fucking Kamino

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Gungan

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podracers

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Clones

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I mean

grizzled schooner
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Art is inspired by everything

glacial current
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The sequels are empty

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Maybe the whole sith planet

slate mulch
# grizzled schooner the dyad

I feel like the dyad could work in theory it’s just there aren’t any fallbacks with how it’s presented where it’s just “FUSION POWER” where if you find your bond with another person your just become powerful

grizzled schooner
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well a poor explanation is still an ex platoon

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explanation

glacial current
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Even TCW took risk with the whole Father Daughter and Son thing

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which i didnt like

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but still respected the move

grizzled schooner
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killing Snoke was a massive “risk”

slate mulch
glacial current
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god i hate snoke

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Bro is so fucking useless

grizzled schooner
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The sequels are bad but to say they lack any originality is just obtuse at best

glacial current
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I would rather have kylo as the big bad from the get go

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bro there is like tons of videos

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of 4 hours

grizzled schooner
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yeah and they’re all wrong

glacial current
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yeah okay

grizzled schooner
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you get your opinions from YouTube essayists

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crazy

glacial current
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I dont

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Im just giving you examples

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The only example was jaded luke lmao

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That shit is old as 1930

slate mulch
grizzled schooner
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Jaded Luke, killing the big bad in the 2nd act, the Dyad, all these new force powers

slate mulch
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Freeze

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Heal

grizzled schooner
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idk

slate mulch
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Dyad

grizzled schooner
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didn’t keep count

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heal isn’t that new

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interrogation

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the matter teleport-y thingy

glacial current
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You do realize that Disney probably made the Dyad on the spot to justify Rey and Kylo relationship bcs the movies were badly written in the first place?

grizzled schooner
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the force time calls

slate mulch
grizzled schooner
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all of TROS is ass pulled

slate mulch
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Would been interesting if there was a drawback that overtime she would mentally break and couldn’t contain it

glacial current
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And i wont just accept lore like this. Anakin birth was always stupid to me too

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Bro is born from the force

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fuck off

grizzled schooner
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Like Jesus

slate mulch
glacial current
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Yeah but then they said it was created by the force to balance sidious

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That detail was always shady

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hated it

slate mulch
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Was that we do know that behind the scenes of episode 3 George thought of having palp be somewhat in charge of the birth of anakin making him kind of a father in some way

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And in a comic they kinda went with it

glacial current
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yeah that thing was always unclear

slate mulch
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Only to sweat a lot when rey and Kylo became a thing

glacial current
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i would rather have just some unknow father and dude was just choosen

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end of the story

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Or QuiGon was the father

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And he came to Tatooine bcs he knew where to go

slate mulch
glacial current
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And thats why he took an interest in the boy

slate mulch
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So he made it left as Implication

glacial current
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yeah simplier

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well. I hope we see thrawn next episode

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at last

tribal pelican
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hey i suppose the good news is that if we ever get a battlefront 3 (never) they actually have an actor to capture ahsokas likeness

vernal quarry
slate mulch
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Ahsoka faces never looked too bad sometimes fine to a bit uncanny

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But there was one that actually looked like what we have in the show

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But it wasn’t my favourite mainly due to its content to another which I liked more because of the attention to detail

reef phoenix
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I not mad about this episode i am actually 27 years old this episode it felt off in way askoka talk anakin dual and kinda went vader on her then back too light it was more confusing.

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This show takes place between 6 and 7

proper totem
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Askoka is a new one

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I've got no clue on what you just said though m8

reef phoenix
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I don’t think it was anikan

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I’m a firm believer it was the brother from the force gods

vernal quarry
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But why would he help Ahsoka?

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I originally thought that too halfway through the flashback shit, but it doesn't quite add up

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As much as I'd like to see Sam Witwer play The Son in live action

proper totem
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Dead

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Its either all in ahsokas head or force ghost anakin

reef phoenix
reef phoenix
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It was her Jedi Padawan trail to become a knight

proper totem
reef phoenix
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Which she never took and that always was the force showing you your greatest challenge

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For her it’s her getting over her guilt of anikan

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And anikan was the brother in some ways so

reef phoenix
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I just like it over it’s just anikan being a dick as a ghost

proper totem
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Trying to teach ahsoka a lesson

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More of a fun dick

wicked kernel
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I like to think that was actually Anakin's spirit

reef phoenix
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It probably was

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Honestly my favorite part was the whole “your conviction is weak” part

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With how he sounds like Vader for a second

wicked kernel
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I feel like Anakin's gonna show up again

reef phoenix
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I hope not

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It’ll honestly ruin a lot of the emotional buildup they created

grizzled schooner
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Anakin’s force ghost shows up and defeats Thrawn

grizzled schooner
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you ever notice they never beat Thrawn without the Force pulling some stupid shit for the rebels

reef phoenix
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“Sabine he’s too strong we can’t beat him”
“Perhaps you underestimate someone’s power”
anikan shows up with Luke yoda and baby yoda with Han Solo
“We’re like sand we get everywhere”

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If this is the finale I’ll give @grizzled schooner 50$

grizzled schooner
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Take out Han

reef phoenix
grizzled schooner
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NAH

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come through the WBW

reef phoenix
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I refuse to acknowledge the existence of rise of skywalker

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Force awakens I can deal with

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I liked the last Jedi better then force (I think they were both bad just Jedi was slightly more original)

solar yacht
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I’mma try to respond tomorrow

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Good nite to all

tribal pelican
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I dont get how having a dream about anakin makes her suddenly know how to communicate with space whales

vernal quarry
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Because Ahsoka gets all the force powers now

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Like how she now has Quinlan Vos's extremely rare ability to touch an object and track its history.

grizzled schooner
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was she

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like not on that deep of a level

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she doesn’t even know where the whales are going

tribal pelican
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no one does

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its all so contrived

grizzled schooner
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pulling some stupid shit like this is exactly what TCW Anakin would do so

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I’m not mad

proper totem
grizzled schooner
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bruh that shit’s not extremely rare 💀

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afaik most Jedi just don’t bother to learn it because it had limited application

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alright nvm I was thinking of something else

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I mean it looks like it’s rare but

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cal kestis has it and he’s not exactly the peak of Jedi

proper totem
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i dont see why ahsoka cant have it

grizzled schooner
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Quinlan’s species is just built different and only 1 in 100 can have it

high spire
fierce trout
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What rhymes with Lidsoka?

high spire
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orange

solar yacht
tribal pelican
fierce trout
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Smartest SW fan

fierce trout
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What is your point

tribal pelican
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its an asspull

fierce trout
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I’m sure the show explained how she had it

tribal pelican
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and the fact that its stated in fallen order that its not something you're trained in, you just have it

proper totem
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least memesoon cope moment

tribal pelican
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wouldve been really helpful to use it in an investigation where shes accused of terrorism and murder

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or when she lost her lightsaber and she needed to track down who stole it

high spire
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yeah im actually pissed off now

proper totem
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Psychometry was not a power that could be achieved through careful cultivation, as only those that were born with the power could use it, such as Karr Nuq Sin. The power did not always manifest directly at birth, as in the case of Nuq Sin, who began experiencing visions caused by objects at age thirteen. Though an innate skill, it nonetheless still required some study and practice to properly control it. To an unpracticed individual touching an object that induced a vision could also cause severe headaches and seizures, consequently making these episodes appear more like symptoms of a serious illness rather than a rare and powerful Force ability. Nuq Sin discovered that wearing gloves prevents the ability activating when he did not want it to.[7] Jedi Knight Vildar Mac found that his power of psychometry often yielded no results, with the Force visions taking a toll on him whenever it did.[6]

high spire
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that she suddenly has this power

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which has never been established in her ever

solar yacht
tribal pelican
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specifically has this power which is used for a specific reason to advance the plot

high spire
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yep

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the worst type of retcon

proper totem
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i hate when they imploment new features to a character to advance the plot!!!!!!!!!!!

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arghhhhhhhh

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i wanna kill somebody!!!!!!!

tribal pelican
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contrived way to start the plot
contrived way to motivate the characters to care
contrived way for the villains to just assume they know exactly where thrawn is and it WILL take them to him
contrived way for ahsoka to be able to follow them

proper totem
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well said brother!!!

tribal pelican
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character gets given a force power they never had before just to advance the plot, sequel trilogy
"fuck off i dont believe in this nonsense"
character gets given a force power they never had before just to advance the plot, ahsoka
"SO TRUE!!!!"

solar yacht
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Lmao it’s Ahsoka bro! Of course she can do that!

tribal pelican
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i bet if you pointed this out to SW theory he'd try his best to defend the hypocrisy

fierce trout
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Ok after reviewing this I have come to the following conclusion 🤓

It makes sense in-universe for her to have it, but writing-wise it’s a copout and a lazy way to advance their plot

solar yacht
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Why does it necessarily make sense? @fierce trout

proper totem
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why does it not

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anyone could have it

slate mulch
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There is also rebels with Morai who ahsoka seems to have no trouble communicating with, though that may or may not count because of the connections with the daughter etc

limber patio
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Gonk the biggest rider

solar yacht
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Oh yeah it’s hilarious

tribal pelican
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because ahsoka is like 50 and just now has it when its convenient, when everyone else whos had it has either been younger, or had it at birth/early age

slate mulch
tribal pelican
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thats not psychometry

limber patio
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U can still like the show but acknowledge its issues

solar yacht
limber patio
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I don't really like it personally but if you like it im happy just don't ignore the problems with it

solar yacht
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Yup

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Extremely based

slate mulch
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Pretty much

tribal pelican
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i saw a comment last night saying that the writing and acting was top tier

slate mulch
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A very sane comment

fierce trout
tribal pelican
tribal pelican
slate mulch
tribal pelican
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did i ask

slate mulch
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I was replying ikr

slate mulch
tribal pelican
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anime pfp

slate mulch
limber patio
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Very epic anime pfp

tribal pelican
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"the fighting is slow because ahsoka is old"
meanwhile a 900yr old frog and an 80yr old man:

proper totem
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Fighting is slow because they simply dont make sabers how they used to

finite saddle
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i think some of it was decently fast

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i liked it but i still prefer prequel level over anything

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that shit is art

solar yacht
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I don’t even really understand that one. The fighting isn’t even slow. Imo it’s accurate to her skill and power level

PM_DookuReading PM_DookuReading PM_DookuReading

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The prequels choreography was so insane because those fighters are insane comparatively speaking

Titans like Dooku, Yoda, Mace, Ani, Obi, Sidious are all some levels above Ahsoka.

Someone like TPM Obi or Qui-Gon or the AotC duo’s fighting speed looks more similar which makes sense

glacial current
fierce trout
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Before you say Yoda or Dooku, they are both clearly leagues above Ahsoka in Force power

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The show sucks ass but we should focus on the real reasons why

atomic gazelle
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yoda is fast, but he's yoda lol. Dooku really isn't all that quick

tribal pelican
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still faster despite being 80

atomic gazelle
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He's also a far better swordsman

tribal pelican
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still 80

atomic gazelle
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I've made my point

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Yoda is 900, by your logic everyone should be faster than him no?

solar yacht
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I don’t think age is a factor. We should look at Yoda, or Dooku, or Sidious. They all use Force augmentation to mitigate their age limitations. Whereas Ahsoka in the show does not, for reasons that relate to choreography. Granted, she’s obviously not as powerful as those three, but from what I’ve heard (I haven’t watched TCW) she moves a bit slower than her animated counterpart. But also from what I’ve heard she doesn’t even do flips or anything of that kind very much anyway

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So I’m going with choregraphy

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I give Rosario a pass on that one

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I think she’s quite good tbh

tribal pelican
proper totem
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So sexy

stray crane
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guys

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i am watching ep 3 now

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i wondered why hera's eyes look weird to me

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it's because she has a lazy eye

grizzled schooner
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because hera has

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what

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the fuck

slate mulch
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In episode 5 her pattern on her head tails is viable but I swear it wasn’t there at the beginning

stray crane
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did you not see me write ''lazy eye''

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why is sabine failing to hit stuff with the tail gun as if she's never shot a gun in her entire life

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ey yo episode 3 wasn't so bad

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in fact it was alright

limber patio
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ur gonna love 4 and 5 then

boreal galleon
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5th is my fav so far

grizzled schooner
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NAAAAH

obsidian talon
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5?.........not bad lol

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good. no dispute in that

fierce trout
obsidian talon
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like.......yea no SHIT

fierce trout
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What are you on about

obsidian talon
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whatever you are bud.

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not saying it was shit, just predictable

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Haydens acting was really good.

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There. Have your cookie

tranquil breach
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The episode

Is an episode of all time

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It's not bad it's just

Okay now what?

fierce trout
obsidian talon
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🤷‍♂️

proper totem
slate mulch
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Idk it just felt like there could have been more of him in that then what we got

obsidian talon
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even the slight details like when he was Vader but still "Anakin". the closeups on his face, etc. etc.

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Like he was calm but something just looked.........off.........VERY talented

slate mulch
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Like one or two shots

obsidian talon
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not much there you can really do.

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other then just......try

slate mulch
slate mulch
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and it's nothing to do with the performance

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it's just he wasn't used a lot

tribal pelican
solar yacht
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Lmao

solar yacht
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😭

tribal pelican
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that one scene where anakin turns into vader and back

solar yacht
# tribal pelican

Bro what do you mean? This is the BEST Star Wars since the originals….. great acting, it has amazing special effect…. Visually stunning , emotive and perfectly fitted music and more than ANYTHING it has that Star Wars HOPE! Absolutely 10 out of 10 for me. Dave Filoni you are a genius and know exactly what all Star Wars fans want. This episode is truly brilliant.

tribal pelican
solar yacht
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I’ll give you a minute

solar yacht
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Silly

fierce trout
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This is how you do real lightsaber fights

lime kayak
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I wish there was an accident to a certain individual who produces and directs Star Wars shows

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Why do lightsabers look so fucking dull now

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Who decided to remove the effect from them when they swing

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Actual brain dead idea

fierce trout
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My thoughts on why the saber combat recently has been so dull and uninteresting:

To make a successful saber battle, you need 3 key components. You don't even need flashy moves or complicated choreography like the prequels.

1) Martials arts/unarmed strikes. Punches and kicks flying between opponents make the fight feel much more visceral and emotionally charged (see Ventress and Obi-Wan vs Maul and Savage).
2) Force powers. Make the Jedi/Sith use the Force for fuck's sake. Make Sith spam lightning, make the Jedi throw rocks or collapse beams (see SWTOR cinematics).
3) Emotional stakes. There needs to be some conflict or connection between the combatants that is telling a story through their movements, words, and eventually winning/losing the fight (see Anakin vs Obi-Wan on Mustafar).

A cool setting helps too. The fights recently have just been on boring flat terrain with static lightsabers and shitty spins. The Ahsoka vs Baylan fight did include martial arts and some Force powers tho which was cool

tribal pelican
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for point 1 i love the bit where ventress uses her hand to fake out savage and throw him off

fierce trout
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I liked when obi-wan kept on kicking savage in the knee because he knew it's a weak spot troll

tribal pelican
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that was a different fight but yes

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ventress vs prizmo was also good because its a pure unarmed fight and she kicks his ass

fierce trout
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Who tf is prizmo

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Nightbrother?

tribal pelican
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krismo

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the guy who looks like smoke

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go to 21:10

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wicked kernel
wicked kernel
tribal pelican
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this is the clone wars™️ all seven seasons streaming only on disney+

proper totem
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That swtor

wicked kernel
proper totem
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If only the game was as good as those cutscenes

wicked kernel
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true

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TBH I think the saber combat in Ahsoka has been pretty good so far

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Hayden has still got it

proper totem
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The saber fight in the last ep was phenomenal

wicked kernel
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As much as I bitch about SW now I liked the last episode

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Fanservice was off the charts but I like being serviced sometimes

proper totem
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Yea maybe they didnt want to make a full on series about it so having it here is good

wicked kernel
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They dragged Tem into the studio to record one line of dialogue

tribal pelican
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i saw a tweet where someone posted an image of anakin, rex and ahsoka and said "they need a series"

proper totem
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They kinda do though

wicked kernel
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Most media literate SW Fan

wicked kernel
proper totem
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No shit

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I mean live action

wicked kernel
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why

proper totem
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Why not

wicked kernel
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They had their story told already

proper totem
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I need to know what they did on a day by day basis

wicked kernel
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Any Clone Wars show would just be retreading on old ground which is pretty much SW at this point but that's a bit much

proper totem
tribal pelican
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thats what they wish was happening

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wicked kernel
tribal pelican
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because at the end of the day, are they wrong?

the episode is filler

high spire
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naked ahsoka naked ahsoka

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the psychometry is so fucking bs

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absolute bullshit retcon

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ahsoka suddenly has psychometry just for plot

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fuck this shit im actually pissed

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oh my fucking god teva said the thing

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“ok, but youre not gonna believe me”

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and jacen saying “far far away”

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and suddenly ahsoka has ezra’s animal power too???????? this is ridiculous

high spire
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it showed a crucial moment in ahsoka’s character development where she finally learns to be better than her master and not make the same mistakes he did

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also there’s this whole thing where filoni is basically copying lotr and making ahsoka the gandalf of star wars

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and this episode was her turning from ahsoka the grey to ahsoka the white

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and gandalf, when he became a white wizard, became what saruman was meant to be, which was an actually good wizard rather than the corrupt guy he was. ahsoka, upon becoming “ahsoka the white” is becoming what a jedi is supposed to be, rather than the corrupt organization it was

vernal quarry
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It's basically the one force ability Anakin struggled with https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Taming_beasts

Wookieepedia

Forming a bond with an animal is a subtle art. Remember, you're not trying to control, but partner. Feel the connection through the Force. Your mind and their mind. Two wills as one.Master Cibaba...

fierce trout
fierce trout
glacial current
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People, on average, love dogshit content

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otherwise explain Arrow or Flash

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Or fucking Big Bang Theory

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or 60% of the current entertainment sector

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See that dude defending the sequels yesterday saying "Jaded Luke" was original content

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Just imagine

grizzled schooner
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Yeah I wouldn’t call the episode complete filler because of Ahsoka’s growth

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But besides that

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The clone wars flashbacks were just disappointing and that’s what most of this episode is built on

stray crane
slate mulch
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but I am like where was this

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did the actress post it?

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either way it's just begging to be memed

grizzled schooner
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that doesn’t look real

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AI generation

vernal quarry
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I still can't figure out if she's attractive or not

slate mulch
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?

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and think they are cute

grizzled schooner
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so she got crazy mfer energy?

slate mulch
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she never blinks

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says all doesn't it

stray crane
solar yacht
finite saddle
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y'all must never go outside. she's really not that attractive

solar yacht
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Looks be subjective you know that right my lad?

finite saddle
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right

solar yacht
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Gg

finite saddle
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but i think this is an elaborate joke more than people actually thinking she's attractive

solar yacht
tribal pelican
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can someone give me the lore reason on why ahsoka now has the power force clothes change?

solar yacht
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Lmao that’s a good one

solar yacht
high spire
atomic gazelle
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The problem with Anakin is he often never does it because he usually just doesnt need to lol. when he has to like in the Arena he can, because he had no other option

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meanwhile if he was swapped with Kenobi's position on Ryloth, he would've just killed all the gutkurrs since he had a lightsaber

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and has no chill

atomic gazelle
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People whose favorite is Return are the duel enjoyers

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People whose favorite is Deceived or Hope are the Battle Scene enjoyers

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Sacrifice and Betrayed are plot/story/world building enjoyers, and Disorder fans are just people who played the game for too long lmao

fierce trout
atomic gazelle
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nothing wrong with any of those categories of fans, but it just for me lets me know who has their priorities on what lol

fierce trout
atomic gazelle
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PvP you say? FinnSmile

fierce trout
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Pvp players try not to be viciously toxic 0.0002 seconds into the game challenge

atomic gazelle
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Pfffffft

fierce trout
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Ok now play an arsenal merc

atomic gazelle
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Give me a week and I'll be able to recreate this video the next time the gree event comes around Lol

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lemme stop before i go down a rabbithole in the ahsoka channel lmao

solar yacht
obsidian talon
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Man's just brings her to like the Normandy of the Clone wars, gets like Complete shellshock immediately

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Then again I'd think Geonosis would be D-day for the Canon

solar yacht
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Hayden’s Anakin is such a fat W

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“You lack conviction…”

fierce trout
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"You lack bitches"

solar yacht
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Damn they didn’t even spell it right lol

wicked kernel
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beautiful image

tribal pelican
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just wish we got it in a better show and as an actual thing and not a callback

proper totem
solar yacht
boreal galleon
proper totem
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what u on about

reef phoenix
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Midpeakshitsoka

vernal quarry
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A sock

proper totem
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Sock

fierce trout
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Midsoka

solar yacht
pine robin
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Soka

fierce silo
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who else thought the live action clone troopers in episode 5 looked a bit off

tribal pelican
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i did , i think a lot of people did

grizzled schooner
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because they’re not CGI like in the prequels, they’re actual guys

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It looked a little jank but not egregious

fierce silo
grizzled schooner
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true…

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and they looked fine

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idk

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I remember only the Phase I troopers looking weird

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that might be it

fierce silo
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it was probably just the budget

grizzled schooner
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Also the stupid smoke covering everything

fierce silo
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yes and i think also the actors for the young ashokas looked a bit young

tribal pelican
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oof

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ill agree on the siege of mandalore part, but that part was just hyping up his own projects

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in terms of the early clone wars parts, she looks fine

fierce silo
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yes she does look fine at the early clone wars part as she was only around 14 but they should have gotten an older actor for the seige of mandalore and could have probably gotten some members of the 501st to play some of the phase 1 clones

tribal pelican
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yeah, i think whats also an issue is the design of the armour

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the phase 1 looks like its trying to emulate the TCW style rather than the AoTC style

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episode was filler though

limber patio
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5 episodes all filler

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there is no show

tribal pelican
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yoooo ahsoka hits hard bro!

atomic gazelle
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is someone gonna tell him

tribal pelican
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hold on gonna make it a meme

solar yacht
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It really do be like that

proper totem
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Plus they got to the new galaxy

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Yall delusional

solar yacht
proper totem
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Bozo tryna say ahsoka had no development in this episode

solar yacht
tribal pelican
limber patio
tribal pelican
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mfs be like "ahsoka has the best character arc in star wars" and im like

"what character arc?"

grizzled schooner
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she learned to live

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To not see that is ignorant at best

solar yacht
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“Ahsoka the White” 💀💀💀

grizzled schooner
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yeah that’s a bit cringe

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But whatever

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Filoni’s always really wanted to write Gandalf for some reason

tribal pelican
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bro thinks hes JRR tolkien

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reminder that this marks basically the 3rd time ahsoka has died

grizzled schooner
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3rd?

tribal pelican
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1st time was mortis

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2nd time was the bullshit time travel

uneven trout
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lmao

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it's kinda funny people are saying pointless things just to hate on the show

uneven trout
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I'd say in terms of acting skills, they made the right choice.

tribal pelican
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shes fine, looks the part

fierce silo
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but one thing you cant deny is the show is slow not much has happened in the first 5 episodes

tribal pelican
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the plot only moved forward with episode 4, and only 5 mins of episode 5 was relevant to the plot

solar yacht
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Very true

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Show is extremely mid

proper totem
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it's not always about the plot

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sometimes it's just about how the characters evolve and the journey

fierce trout
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“I wish I’d spent more time arguing about the ahsoka show”

tribal pelican
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"bro the pacing is SUPPOSED to be bad"

solar yacht
grizzled schooner
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who the fuck has said that

proper totem
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i aint even gonna try no more

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rebels bad

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midsoka

glacial current
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from REYYYYYY to REEYYYYYYY

tribal pelican
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clone wars is so good mfs asking for it to be remade in live action

proper totem
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what if it had barriss

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or ventress

glacial current
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Barriss got glup shitto energy

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dunno why people like her

tribal pelican
tribal pelican
fierce trout
glacial current
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They should wipe the slate clean

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get rid of everybody

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and restart

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Mandoverse is salvageable while the sequels are clearly not

tribal pelican
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also isnt barris like 23?

fierce silo
high spire
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she’s 17 in tcw

grizzled schooner
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she had one real good moment in season 5

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Some people want her to ride on Ahsoka’s coattails so bad

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I feel like there’s nothing left for her to do

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im probably gonna eat my own words in the future but whateva

tribal pelican
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BUT BRO GOD FILONI SAID HE HAS PLANS FOR HER

slate mulch
grizzled schooner
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Maybe

slate mulch
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Cause remember that in rebels you had luminara used as Jedi bait

grizzled schooner
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get killed maybe

slate mulch
# grizzled schooner get killed maybe

I would like to imagine sometime in bad batch luminara sacrificed herself to keep barriss from danger which lead to luminara’s imprisonment and later death

tribal pelican
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filoni fans explaining how barriss will totally show up because they conveniently forgot that the punishment for the crime was execution

grizzled schooner
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She wasn’t very attached to barriss

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I don’t imagine she would try to pull off a rescue mission for a terrorist

slate mulch
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Especially in the darkest of times

grizzled schooner
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yeah that’s just pure speculation

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it would be extremely ooc for luminara to do it as we currently know her

tribal pelican
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pure speculation that barriss is even alive to begin with

grizzled schooner
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It would just be a random ass pull to put barriss back on the board

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when the most likely reality is the Republic or Empire shooting her in captivity

fierce trout
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Midsoka

grizzled schooner
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Fire new content idea

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Barriss show that’s 8 episodes of her in prison before getting shot by the Coruscant guard

tribal pelican
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specifically commander fox

proper totem
proper totem
tribal pelican
proper totem
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fox was a dumbass

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thats why

tribal pelican
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how was shooting an armed criminal before someone got hurt stupid?

limber patio
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Palps had barris assassinated offscreen

slate mulch
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As for as the execution not present, allegedly filoni stated they had a scene of her killing herself with a detonator as suicide but he stated he decided not to include it and said they were plans for her

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Weather that was him forgetting it and stated this for the mystery factor or that he was full on going with this direction we shall see

tranquil breach
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How much time was there in between Ahsoka's trial and Order 66?

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Within the same year apparently

grizzled schooner
grizzled schooner
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I really don’t think anyone else would’ve done anything different were they in his position

atomic gazelle
grizzled schooner
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As far as he knew, an elite of the elite clone trooper attempted to kill the chancellor and was suffering from a mental breakdown, and then he finds him holding a Jedi general and a clone captain captive, and then after giving him several seconds to surrender, he goes for a gun

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it would be kinda weird if he didn’t shoot him at that point like

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Fox haters need to cope

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it’s all Palpatine’s fault as usual

atomic gazelle
grizzled schooner
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🤓

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he went for a gun

tranquil breach
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I'd argue that he was still wearing armor but stun is so good it takes down even Commandos in a few shots

atomic gazelle
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hE wEnT fOr a Gun

tranquil breach
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According to bad batch anyways yodahmm

atomic gazelle
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remember this guy?

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yeah

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they stunned him

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Now, maybe I could be wrong

tranquil breach
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Fox would've been ordered to kill him anyways

atomic gazelle
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But I'm preeeeetty sure this guy is a bit more dangerous than Fives

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just a lil bit

grizzled schooner
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Rex was operating in a legal gray area

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like

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the guy that actually shot him got arrested and disappeared in the end

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Fox was wielding the full authority of the chancellor

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He was trying to not get his entire unit disappeared

atomic gazelle
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That makes even less sense

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If he had the full authority of the chancellor then he has the option to use his brain and not kill Fives but to capture him alive.

grizzled schooner
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Yeah and the chancellor wanted him dead 💀

tranquil breach
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Palpatine NEEDED him to be dead.

atomic gazelle
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Now, if thechancellor DID tell Fox TO kill Fives specifically then yeah sure, but thats not the argument

grizzled schooner
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Why would Palpatine tell him to bring him in

atomic gazelle
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the argument you all were behind is, "he was dangerous, he was reaching for gun" lol

grizzled schooner
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It’s honestly a miracle Fox didn’t shoot him on sight

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He gave him ample time to surrender

atomic gazelle
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Are you now saying that if he surrendered he wouldn't have been killed?

tranquil breach
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Not there and then

atomic gazelle
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Did palpatine predict Fives would reach for a blaster lol

tranquil breach
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Probably behind closed doors

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And his death would be ruled as a suicide

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Classic authoritarian strategy

grizzled schooner
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I’m saying that you can’t blame fox given the information he had

atomic gazelle
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So Fox is an authoritarian bootlicker

grizzled schooner
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Yes?

tranquil breach
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Oh and he was drugged too

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Remember

grizzled schooner
atomic gazelle
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Definitely seems like a decent reason for the Fox hate

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People don't like those kinda of people

tranquil breach
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Oh that's the argument

grizzled schooner
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Pretty much every clone was bred to think like that

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also shifting goalposts

tranquil breach
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Reminder that Fox didn't see Frontline combat until the battle of Coruscant. Being Coruscant guard and all so no time to become independent with the Jedi.

atomic gazelle
grizzled schooner
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Like you can hate fox for not thinking for himself but what is suspicious about Fives

atomic gazelle
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You set the goalpost lol

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so which is it

grizzled schooner
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I meant you can’t blame fox for shooting fives

atomic gazelle
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Yes, I can lol

grizzled schooner
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clearly outlined above

atomic gazelle
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At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions

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Same goes for people who claim Anakin's actions were all the Jedi's fault. No, Anakin's fall was Anakin's fault lol. At the end of the day he has the autonomy

grizzled schooner
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When you walk in on two high ranking military officers being held captive by functionally a terrorist that’s pretty good reason to pop his ass

atomic gazelle
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Now if Fives was under literal control of say an inhibitor chip then yeah you could say you couldn't blame him

slate mulch
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And anakin would probably not have her in their service as an inquisitor

tranquil breach
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Oh true

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Nah she's dead as hell

slate mulch
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You never know

wicked kernel
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I used to be a blind Commander Fox hater now I’m just a situational commander Fox hater

grizzled schooner
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Just realized Ahsoka brought a fucking bomb into a hospital in episode 2

tribal pelican
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reminder that palpatine would have wanted fives killed, but fox was willing to let fives stand down

tribal pelican
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all the people getting uppity and asking for live action clone wars and suggesting the worst ideas possible

tribal pelican
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I also have a leak here

solar yacht
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Well go on then

tribal pelican
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turns out that in the show, ||It is revealed that Darth Vader isn't really Anakin. Darth Vader is actually a Clone Trooper medic that Palpatine brainwashed into believing was Anakin. The real Anakin survived Mustafar and founded a secret rebel organization dedicated to taking down Palpatine from the shadows||

solar yacht
grizzled schooner
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Also TAKE IT TO #1019702630768988213

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oops

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TAKE IT TO #1150367760409440286

tribal pelican
stray crane
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saw episode 4 just now

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it was alright

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shin is nicely written but baylan is not

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even though Ray Stevenson was a great actor, baylan's lines are garbage

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how was he so easily able to manipulatine sabine?

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''you have a crush on ezra, we're going there and we can take you with us lololol''

proper totem
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what the freak

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baylan is the goat

stray crane
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um no

fierce trout
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Moomin did a wrongthink

solar yacht
fierce trout
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Capeshit dialogue

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Has been a problem since the PT

solar yacht
solar yacht
stray crane
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witch: ''i sense fear in you''
baylan ''experience''

solar yacht
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Probably the coldest line in the show

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You are seriously waffling

finite saddle
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yeah moomin you are wrongthinking

grizzled schooner
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baylan’s lines in episode 4 aren’t bad

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the one word response thing kinda worked there

stray crane
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well ep 5 was great

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really really good

tribal pelican
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thinks E4 was bad but E5 was good

grizzled schooner
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Moomin eating that slop up

tribal pelican
tranquil breach
stray crane
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yeah that's what i think

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i think it's funny how that inquisitor dude just died the same way as snoke did 😂

solar yacht
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Truly “to each their own” ya know

solar yacht
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I’d sooner rewatch peakdor

wicked kernel
wicked kernel
stray crane
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and literally had the same memes too

grizzled schooner
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holy fuck

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Marrok had as many bad theories as Snoke

glacial current
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Idk why

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dude was clearly pointless from the getgo

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Henchman #2

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vibe

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I mean Baylan and Shin were enough. Dunno the purpose of the guy in the first place

grizzled schooner
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toys

stray crane
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he came, he did nothing, he died

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just a mild nuisance for ahsoka

glacial current
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night king style

stray crane
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yeah that's also tru

tribal pelican
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me when a new episode drops

stray crane
glacial current
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shorts are cancerous

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mf be spamming

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HAVE YOU NOTICED THIS ? --->

limber patio
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Try to describe marroks character to a friend who knows nothing about star wars without talking about how he looks like

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He isn't even a character

grizzled schooner
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did you guys see Ahsoka’s lightsabers are white

grizzled schooner
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that’s it

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he’s just a guy

limber patio
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what a worthless show

grizzled schooner
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he’s functionally a more powerful stormtrooper

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that’s not really a problem

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should Marrok really be someone important?

limber patio
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he doesn't have to be

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at least have him be a character

grizzled schooner
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Expecting a stormtrooper to have character time is bit much

limber patio
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Wasted an epic design

grizzled schooner
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he’s just a different guy

grizzled schooner
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I mean it wasn’t that cool

limber patio
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It was same thing with the reaper inquisitor from tales of the jedi

tribal pelican
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the issue lies at the core of the inquisitors design

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they're baddies invented for the sole purpose of having jedi fight someone with a lightsaber who isnt darth vader

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but because theres so many, they're designated jobbers and ultimately disposable and replaceable

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and obviously you cant have all the jedi fight vader all the time because they'll all have to lose, and a jedi who always loses wont be liked

a good character to compare to is ventress, she fits the same role in that shes there so jedi dont fight dooku all the time

but because shes just one character (with grievous taking up the same role) she's allowed some wins and an actual character that isnt just a disposable bad guy with a lightsaber

grizzled schooner
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I think people would like inquisitors if they had some actual wins

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I can’t even think of a single Jedi they’ve ever killed onscreen

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and also none of them have interesting personalities

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half of them are just brooding evil guys

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that are evil for the sake of being evil

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(which serve their purposes in storytelling but yknow not usually interesting rivals to main characters)

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Reva’s annoying

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and uh

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the lady inquisitor from rebels is a creep

tranquil breach
fierce trout
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Bruh

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Trilla is by far the most interesting inquisitor

stray crane
fierce trout
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🤨

high spire
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i'd say GI is most interesting

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and trilla is second

fierce trout
high spire
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but thats cause theyre the only ones who actually have fleshed-out backstories

fierce trout
high spire
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yes

fierce trout
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Ah

high spire
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and i've 100% fallen order like 10 times

fierce trout
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Because the only grand inquisitor stuff I've seen is from kenobi

high spire
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yeah there you go

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GI is shit in kenobi

glacial current
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only the GI is interesting

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the rest is children daycare

fierce trout
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Ok then I'm willing to concede that GI may be on par or better than trilla because I haven't watched rebels. But those two are it

stray crane
high spire
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so go watch rebels

stray crane
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maybe one of the best scenes in rebels actually

high spire
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yep

fierce trout
stray crane
glacial current
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GI Kenobi doesnt count

high spire
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yeah

stray crane
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i don't even need to say it

grizzled schooner
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someone needs to explain to me why they like the GI

glacial current
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bro was the child birthday party version

grizzled schooner
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where’s the depth

glacial current
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former jedi guard

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litteraly the only thing

grizzled schooner
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he was a Jedi and now he’s serving the sith?

fierce trout
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Is the ep where kanan fights a temple guard but it's actually GI

high spire
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which are supposed to be the best of the best

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which makes it interesting

glacial current
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They could have been lazy and just say "yeah its jedi #342

stray crane
glacial current
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but no , they presented him as a jedi guard , which him falling to dark side is probably less likely than a regular jedi

grizzled schooner
fierce trout
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I will never watch the actual show

high spire
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dont get me wrong im not saying GI is one of the best characters in star wars

grizzled schooner
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that’s not that deep

high spire
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i'm saying he's the best of the inquisitors

fierce trout
grizzled schooner
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that’s like kiddie pool deep

high spire
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yeah im not saying it's deep

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i'm saying its deeper than the others

grizzled schooner
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I mean most inquisitors are fallen Jedi anyway

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or at least a good chunk

high spire
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all of them are i believe

grizzled schooner
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The Grand Inquisitor just being “more fallen”

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I mean who cares

glacial current
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I just wish inquisitors would have been experienced jedi, turned by palpatine over time in preparation for order 66 instead of having younglings and half made jedis

high spire
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im pretty sure sidious wasnt even planning on the inquisition originally

grizzled schooner
high spire
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he just had to make it because he didnt expect there would be so many survivors

grizzled schooner
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Fucking Pong Krell would’ve been a crazy Inquisitor

high spire
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truth

glacial current
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yep very good example

grizzled schooner
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Why didn’t Palpatine turn the young Jedi into an Inquisitor Army? Is he stupid?

glacial current
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a point had to be made lmao

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reva casually surviving a double stab to the chest

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oopsie

solar yacht
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Only good thing to come of reva were Hayden flashbacks

stray crane
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there's some really really good moments there

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it's one of those rare shows which get better with every season

wicked kernel
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Is Sabine force sensitive or not I still don’t get it

tranquil breach
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The shows point seems to be that you don't need to be force sens

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But them playing the noise with the fake force push is sussy

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I don't fucking know anymore and I don't want to care.

wicked kernel
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Are they stupid

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Every other SW film has that established

tranquil breach
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No that you don't need the force to be a jedi

grizzled schooner
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yeah

tranquil breach
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Which again
They're toying around with

grizzled schooner
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nah

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that idea is what’s making the show go from midsoka to badsoka for me

tranquil breach
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Don't you need the force to guide you to duel with a lightsaber

atomic gazelle
grizzled schooner
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but it’s uh

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really difficult

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And you’ll never be as good as someone with the Force

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because they can predict your moves

atomic gazelle
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Looking "cool" is like a curse

grizzled schooner
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this is also more offscreen lore but force users create a “bubble” around themselves while dueling which prevents other force wielders from doing fun shit like turning off their lightsaber or just pushing them

wicked kernel
grizzled schooner
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Shin should’ve been able to simply ragdoll Sabine in their fight

tranquil breach
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You let it down and then you get cooked

grizzled schooner
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It requires a little bit of concentration

tranquil breach
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That makes sense

wicked kernel
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Also if the person you’re fighting is stronger they can just ignore it

grizzled schooner
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And also the more powerful you are

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yeah what he said

tranquil breach
wicked kernel
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But anyway they better not be trying to say you don’t need the force to be a Jedi

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That’s so dumb

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Makes no sense at all

atomic gazelle
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I will 100% always place blame on the Mandalorians for every bad thing to happen in regards to Star Wars worldbuilding, but the idea that a non-Force sensitive person let alone an entire culture can face-off against a Jedi or a Sith in melee combat and best them is one of the most ridiculous things that could have come out from the Mandos

grizzled schooner
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eh

wicked kernel
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I disagree with that, if there’s nothing who can challenge Jedi or Sith in a fight then there’s no tension to them fighting anyone

grizzled schooner
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Mandalorians still usually get bodied by Jedi though

wicked kernel
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Also here here’s my other counterpoint: mandalorians are cool and badass

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And when I see Jedi fighting mandalorians I say “wow that’s cool and badass”

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grizzled schooner
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Pre Viszla, one of the strongest Mandalorians, still got beat up by Obi Wan and killed by Darth Maul

wicked kernel
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And Maul was holding back

atomic gazelle
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Maul cooked his ass. Vizla was using all of his gadgets, Maul didn't even use the force

wicked kernel
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Obi-Wan beat him and he wasn’t going to kill him because his GF would’ve been mad

grizzled schooner
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Mandalorians being Jedi killers is sheer fandom hype

wicked kernel
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Only like one Jedi gets killed on screen by a Mandalorian

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How did Mandos fare against jedi in the EU?

atomic gazelle
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Jango Fett killed jedi with his bare hands in legends

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The fuck

grizzled schooner
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alright

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that’s an outlier