#Ahsoka spoilers
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Yay child soldiers
Alright well I’m not an expert
maybe they could’ve made her look a little older on Mandalore
not really that big of a deal
tbh no real reason for mandalore to be there
Ok they let Rex talk I was worried he wasn’t going to say anything at all
I kinda expected more from him
because the cosplayers wanted to do another scene

Anakin looks a lot better with different lighting
I kind of wonder he might have already died of old age
Ooh evil Anakin
we haven't seen him
In the flashback I mean
at minimum he might be just retired
me in the (empty) theatre for the ahsoka episode 5 showing as i watch my dreams of live action clone wars become cheaply made fanservice slop
Daddy Dave why hast thou forsaken us
What more can you expect
Ahsoka without the headdress stuff is cursed
man it feels so weird watching anakin
Huyang remains the best part of this show
What Chopper think of jacen
Droids never disapppoint
This show has given me a new hatred the how canon NR
Undying
Permanent
Hatred
Such a disappointment
Disney just dont care
They are focused on the characters
not the world around
thats why everything in the sequels is just a ripoff of the original and prequels
I cannot wait for them to butcher the Thrawn Campaign
What we need is a new atmospheric era
We only have like…4 or 5
They should just have reworked the old republic storyline
in 3 movies
Rise of Revan , Fall of Revan, Return of Revan
And could have still played on the choosen one trope and use already successfull characters without taking any risk
High Republic
1 job , just nail the casting
That’s what they’re doing
…meh
I think they’re doing some cool stuff with that
It’s basically old republic but GOLD
Not really
I never heard anything cool from the new republic
The whole Jedi v Sith dynamic isn’t there
I am just going off of vibes in its visuals not what actually happens
Hell yea space whales
One whats thing cool from the new republic ?
Canon NR?
I would like to see an era that goes way forward in time from the main trilogies
I agree too
I thought about something close to the valkorion empire
like a new class of force users
I dont know if star wars can work without the whole force thing in the general public
this is a stupid ass idea, because everyone would argue over what revan is supposed to be like
And more importantly Disney wanted to piss their own mark onto the canvas
TFA is pretty safe but TLJ definitely isn’t a copy of the OT
my vision of it would be carrying out the themes of tlj of finding a purpose and how force users in general live on like imagine remaining sith or Jedi with no rule of two or master/apprentice and are just isolated but because there isn’t much of a conflict there is not much need of authority
yeah that’s superficial as fuck
it was litteraly the only oriignal thing
The only thing?
Yeah
it was never explained
why they have this connection
There are times where tlj is like “this isn’t OT guys” like saying the snow looking planet is not snow but salt
and again , it was probably made on the way
Which is something that the OT never used, which is what this argument is about
never planned in the first place
the dyad
yeah but its a general trope , not something belonging in star wars
like take Count Dooku for example
We dont have anything close to Dooku in the sequels
so old jaded Luke isn’t copying the OT
Fucking Jango
you’re moving goalposts
Art is inspired by everything
I feel like the dyad could work in theory it’s just there aren’t any fallbacks with how it’s presented where it’s just “FUSION POWER” where if you find your bond with another person your just become powerful
Even TCW took risk with the whole Father Daughter and Son thing
which i didnt like
but still respected the move
killing Snoke was a massive “risk”
It is explained its just not really deep or interesting as a force ability
The sequels are bad but to say they lack any originality is just obtuse at best
I would rather have kylo as the big bad from the get go
bro there is like tons of videos
of 4 hours
yeah okay
I dont
Im just giving you examples
The only example was jaded luke lmao
That shit is old as 1930
But it is sad how small the originality that does works like give us a new atmosphere if anything
Jaded Luke, killing the big bad in the 2nd act, the Dyad, all these new force powers
How many force powers?
Freeze
Heal
idk
Dyad
didn’t keep count
heal isn’t that new
interrogation
the matter teleport-y thingy
You do realize that Disney probably made the Dyad on the spot to justify Rey and Kylo relationship bcs the movies were badly written in the first place?
the force time calls
That seemed like something anakin would do to a separatist
yeah that doesn’t make it not new
all of TROS is ass pulled
I actually thought it was to justify rey’s quick rise in strength and that the dyad gradually made her much stronger
Would been interesting if there was a drawback that overtime she would mentally break and couldn’t contain it
And i wont just accept lore like this. Anakin birth was always stupid to me too
Bro is born from the force
fuck off
Like Jesus
You know what shows how poor communication is
Yeah but then they said it was created by the force to balance sidious
That detail was always shady
hated it
Was that we do know that behind the scenes of episode 3 George thought of having palp be somewhat in charge of the birth of anakin making him kind of a father in some way
And in a comic they kinda went with it
yeah that thing was always unclear
Only to sweat a lot when rey and Kylo became a thing
i would rather have just some unknow father and dude was just choosen
end of the story
Or QuiGon was the father
And he came to Tatooine bcs he knew where to go
Fair that was something even George thought of when doing it
And thats why he took an interest in the boy
So he made it left as Implication
hey i suppose the good news is that if we ever get a battlefront 3 (never) they actually have an actor to capture ahsokas likeness
Take a shot every time Hera reminds the audience that she's a general
We still have the modders for bf2
Ahsoka faces never looked too bad sometimes fine to a bit uncanny
But there was one that actually looked like what we have in the show
But it wasn’t my favourite mainly due to its content to another which I liked more because of the attention to detail
I not mad about this episode i am actually 27 years old this episode it felt off in way askoka talk anakin dual and kinda went vader on her then back too light it was more confusing.
This show takes place between 6 and 7
I don’t think it was anikan
I’m a firm believer it was the brother from the force gods
But why would he help Ahsoka?
I originally thought that too halfway through the flashback shit, but it doesn't quite add up
As much as I'd like to see Sam Witwer play The Son in live action
Hes erm
Dead
Its either all in ahsokas head or force ghost anakin
All in her head
It’s the force the force is unbiased
It was her Jedi Padawan trail to become a knight
We dont know m8 its up for interpretation
Which she never took and that always was the force showing you your greatest challenge
For her it’s her getting over her guilt of anikan
And anikan was the brother in some ways so
Ye absolutely
I just like it over it’s just anikan being a dick as a ghost
I like to think that was actually Anakin's spirit
It probably was
Honestly my favorite part was the whole “your conviction is weak” part
With how he sounds like Vader for a second
I feel like Anakin's gonna show up again
Anakin’s force ghost shows up and defeats Thrawn
you ever notice they never beat Thrawn without the Force pulling some stupid shit for the rebels
“Sabine he’s too strong we can’t beat him”
“Perhaps you underestimate someone’s power”
anikan shows up with Luke yoda and baby yoda with Han Solo
“We’re like sand we get everywhere”
If this is the finale I’ll give @grizzled schooner 50$
Take out Han
💀 replace it with Rey “palpatine”
I refuse to acknowledge the existence of rise of skywalker
Force awakens I can deal with
I liked the last Jedi better then force (I think they were both bad just Jedi was slightly more original)
I dont get how having a dream about anakin makes her suddenly know how to communicate with space whales
Because Ahsoka gets all the force powers now
Like how she now has Quinlan Vos's extremely rare ability to touch an object and track its history.
she wasn’t even communicating
was she
like not on that deep of a level
she doesn’t even know where the whales are going
pulling some stupid shit like this is exactly what TCW Anakin would do so
I’m not mad
She used it in the first episode as well
bruh that shit’s not extremely rare 💀
afaik most Jedi just don’t bother to learn it because it had limited application
alright nvm I was thinking of something else
I mean it looks like it’s rare but
cal kestis has it and he’s not exactly the peak of Jedi
yea
i dont see why ahsoka cant have it
Quinlan’s species is just built different and only 1 in 100 can have it
because its not based on skill
orange
because shes never shown to have the ability before
Smartest SW fan
And now she has
What is your point
its an asspull
I’m sure the show explained how she had it
and the fact that its stated in fallen order that its not something you're trained in, you just have it
well now she is showing it
least memesoon cope moment
wouldve been really helpful to use it in an investigation where shes accused of terrorism and murder
or when she lost her lightsaber and she needed to track down who stole it
yeah im actually pissed off now
Psychometry was not a power that could be achieved through careful cultivation, as only those that were born with the power could use it, such as Karr Nuq Sin. The power did not always manifest directly at birth, as in the case of Nuq Sin, who began experiencing visions caused by objects at age thirteen. Though an innate skill, it nonetheless still required some study and practice to properly control it. To an unpracticed individual touching an object that induced a vision could also cause severe headaches and seizures, consequently making these episodes appear more like symptoms of a serious illness rather than a rare and powerful Force ability. Nuq Sin discovered that wearing gloves prevents the ability activating when he did not want it to.[7] Jedi Knight Vildar Mac found that his power of psychometry often yielded no results, with the Force visions taking a toll on him whenever it did.[6]
It’s Ahsoka bro she’s just that potent!!!
specifically has this power which is used for a specific reason to advance the plot
i hate when they imploment new features to a character to advance the plot!!!!!!!!!!!
arghhhhhhhh
i wanna kill somebody!!!!!!!
contrived way to start the plot
contrived way to motivate the characters to care
contrived way for the villains to just assume they know exactly where thrawn is and it WILL take them to him
contrived way for ahsoka to be able to follow them
well said brother!!!
character gets given a force power they never had before just to advance the plot, sequel trilogy
"fuck off i dont believe in this nonsense"
character gets given a force power they never had before just to advance the plot, ahsoka
"SO TRUE!!!!"
Lmao it’s Ahsoka bro! Of course she can do that!
i bet if you pointed this out to SW theory he'd try his best to defend the hypocrisy
Ok after reviewing this I have come to the following conclusion 🤓
It makes sense in-universe for her to have it, but writing-wise it’s a copout and a lazy way to advance their plot
Why does it necessarily make sense? @fierce trout
ToTJ: somehow survived getting eaten from a tiger which lead to her being in the order in the first place
There is also rebels with Morai who ahsoka seems to have no trouble communicating with, though that may or may not count because of the connections with the daughter etc
Gonk the biggest rider
Oh yeah it’s hilarious
because ahsoka is like 50 and just now has it when its convenient, when everyone else whos had it has either been younger, or had it at birth/early age
Like ahsoka… and what is shown to us in TOTJ
thats not psychometry
U can still like the show but acknowledge its issues
Lmao
I don't really like it personally but if you like it im happy just don't ignore the problems with it
Pretty much
i saw a comment last night saying that the writing and acting was top tier
A very sane comment
In DAVE we trust 🙏🏼
It can manifest whenever it wants, it’s not a birth power. Maybe she had a few headaches along the way, it’s the show’s responsibility to explore that
Was not replying to you
did i ask
I was replying ikr
No you didn’t but I am gonna say it anyway
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Very epic anime pfp
"the fighting is slow because ahsoka is old"
meanwhile a 900yr old frog and an 80yr old man:
Fighting is slow because they simply dont make sabers how they used to
i think some of it was decently fast
i liked it but i still prefer prequel level over anything
that shit is art
I don’t even really understand that one. The fighting isn’t even slow. Imo it’s accurate to her skill and power level

The prequels choreography was so insane because those fighters are insane comparatively speaking
Titans like Dooku, Yoda, Mace, Ani, Obi, Sidious are all some levels above Ahsoka.
Someone like TPM Obi or Qui-Gon or the AotC duo’s fighting speed looks more similar which makes sense
Ahsoka used to jump around making flips and shit. Tf you mean
Yes and now she’s decades older, so what do you expect
Before you say Yoda or Dooku, they are both clearly leagues above Ahsoka in Force power
The show sucks ass but we should focus on the real reasons why
this is sped up 
yoda is fast, but he's yoda lol. Dooku really isn't all that quick
still faster despite being 80
He's also a far better swordsman
still 80
I've made my point

Yoda is 900, by your logic everyone should be faster than him no?
This is true, you are right. I think this can be simply explained by being a choreography issue. Rosario Dawson simply cannot match the level of agility speed etc. that the animated series displays. Whereas Hayden and Ewan McGregor are so skilled they actually exceed their animated counterparts

I don’t think age is a factor. We should look at Yoda, or Dooku, or Sidious. They all use Force augmentation to mitigate their age limitations. Whereas Ahsoka in the show does not, for reasons that relate to choreography. Granted, she’s obviously not as powerful as those three, but from what I’ve heard (I haven’t watched TCW) she moves a bit slower than her animated counterpart. But also from what I’ve heard she doesn’t even do flips or anything of that kind very much anyway
So I’m going with choregraphy
I give Rosario a pass on that one
I think she’s quite good tbh
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true….
So sexy
guys
i am watching ep 3 now
i wondered why hera's eyes look weird to me
it's because she has a lazy eye
I think her look slowly gets better over time
In episode 5 her pattern on her head tails is viable but I swear it wasn’t there at the beginning
did you not see me write ''lazy eye''
why is sabine failing to hit stuff with the tail gun as if she's never shot a gun in her entire life
ey yo episode 3 wasn't so bad
in fact it was alright
ur gonna love 4 and 5 then
5th is my fav so far
NAAAAH
Who said it’s slow

BUDDY did you NOT see who directed the damn thing XD
like.......yea no SHIT
What are you on about
whatever you are bud.
not saying it was shit, just predictable
Haydens acting was really good.
There. Have your cookie
🤨
🤷♂️
Now they going to the other galaxy
Is it just me or did this show utilise him better than kenobi
Idk it just felt like there could have been more of him in that then what we got
well apparently he had embraced a bit more on Matt Latners portrayal of Anakin.
even the slight details like when he was Vader but still "Anakin". the closeups on his face, etc. etc.
Like he was calm but something just looked.........off.........VERY talented
I know he did it’s just on paper he isn’t there a lot
Like one or two shots
well remember, ones animation/ Live action
not much there you can really do.
other then just......try
One episode of a flashback, the fight
it's not about try
and it's nothing to do with the performance
it's just he wasn't used a lot
Lmao
😭
that one scene where anakin turns into vader and back
Bro what do you mean? This is the BEST Star Wars since the originals….. great acting, it has amazing special effect…. Visually stunning , emotive and perfectly fitted music and more than ANYTHING it has that Star Wars HOPE! Absolutely 10 out of 10 for me. Dave Filoni you are a genius and know exactly what all Star Wars fans want. This episode is truly brilliant.
what did you copy paste this from
I’ll give you a minute
Silly
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This is how you do real lightsaber fights
I wish there was an accident to a certain individual who produces and directs Star Wars shows
Why do lightsabers look so fucking dull now
Who decided to remove the effect from them when they swing
Actual brain dead idea
My thoughts on why the saber combat recently has been so dull and uninteresting:
To make a successful saber battle, you need 3 key components. You don't even need flashy moves or complicated choreography like the prequels.
1) Martials arts/unarmed strikes. Punches and kicks flying between opponents make the fight feel much more visceral and emotionally charged (see Ventress and Obi-Wan vs Maul and Savage).
2) Force powers. Make the Jedi/Sith use the Force for fuck's sake. Make Sith spam lightning, make the Jedi throw rocks or collapse beams (see SWTOR cinematics).
3) Emotional stakes. There needs to be some conflict or connection between the combatants that is telling a story through their movements, words, and eventually winning/losing the fight (see Anakin vs Obi-Wan on Mustafar).
A cool setting helps too. The fights recently have just been on boring flat terrain with static lightsabers and shitty spins. The Ahsoka vs Baylan fight did include martial arts and some Force powers tho which was cool
for point 1 i love the bit where ventress uses her hand to fake out savage and throw him off
I liked when obi-wan kept on kicking savage in the knee because he knew it's a weak spot 
that was a different fight but yes
ventress vs prizmo was also good because its a pure unarmed fight and she kicks his ass
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the guy who looks like smoke
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Yeah I thought Baylan vs. Soker was pretty decent
"this is the clone wars"
"yeah, no kidding"
SWTOR cinematics have ruined the fanbase
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That swtor
shh
If only the game was as good as those cutscenes
true
TBH I think the saber combat in Ahsoka has been pretty good so far
Hayden has still got it
The saber fight in the last ep was phenomenal
As much as I bitch about SW now I liked the last episode
Fanservice was off the charts but I like being serviced sometimes
Yea maybe they didnt want to make a full on series about it so having it here is good
They dragged Tem into the studio to record one line of dialogue
i saw a tweet where someone posted an image of anakin, rex and ahsoka and said "they need a series"
....
Do they know
They kinda do though
Most media literate SW Fan
Boy oh boy do I have a show for you
why
Why not
They had their story told already
I need to know what they did on a day by day basis
Any Clone Wars show would just be retreading on old ground which is pretty much SW at this point but that's a bit much
thats what they wish was happening

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WTF I love Ahsoka Episode 5 now?
wtf knights of melvin actually right for once?
because at the end of the day, are they wrong?
the episode is filler
naked ahsoka naked ahsoka
the psychometry is so fucking bs
absolute bullshit retcon
ahsoka suddenly has psychometry just for plot
fuck this shit im actually pissed
oh my fucking god teva said the thing
“ok, but youre not gonna believe me”

and jacen saying “far far away”
and suddenly ahsoka has ezra’s animal power too???????? this is ridiculous
no its not????
it showed a crucial moment in ahsoka’s character development where she finally learns to be better than her master and not make the same mistakes he did
also there’s this whole thing where filoni is basically copying lotr and making ahsoka the gandalf of star wars
and this episode was her turning from ahsoka the grey to ahsoka the white
and gandalf, when he became a white wizard, became what saruman was meant to be, which was an actually good wizard rather than the corrupt guy he was. ahsoka, upon becoming “ahsoka the white” is becoming what a jedi is supposed to be, rather than the corrupt organization it was
Ahsoka suddenly having beast control is kind of bullshit but ignorable since it was a much more common ability, but there's no way Anakin taught it to her.
It's basically the one force ability Anakin struggled with https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Taming_beasts
Damn she couldn’t have learned it on her own after the Jedi purge?
Not really considering most people are still willing to applause subpar content
People, on average, love dogshit content
otherwise explain Arrow or Flash
Or fucking Big Bang Theory
or 60% of the current entertainment sector
See that dude defending the sequels yesterday saying "Jaded Luke" was original content
Just imagine
Yeah I wouldn’t call the episode complete filler because of Ahsoka’s growth
But besides that
The clone wars flashbacks were just disappointing and that’s what most of this episode is built on
I think I saw that somewhere
but I am like where was this
did the actress post it?
either way it's just begging to be memed
I still can't figure out if she's attractive or not
do like Azula, Juri from street fighter or wednesday Adams
?
and think they are cute
so she got crazy mfer energy?
pretty much
she never blinks
says all doesn't it
Subjective
The actress maybe but shin herself absolutely fucking not
y'all must never go outside. she's really not that attractive
Looks be subjective you know that right my lad?
right
but i think this is an elaborate joke more than people actually thinking she's attractive

can someone give me the lore reason on why ahsoka now has the power force clothes change?
Lmao that’s a good one
Cheeky off screen outfit switch up 🤷🏻♂️
what u on about
im much more livid about the psychometry because that has been established multiple times to be an ability that cannot be taught/learned
I mean he didn't struggle thaaat much with it lol
The problem with Anakin is he often never does it because he usually just doesnt need to lol. when he has to like in the Arena he can, because he had no other option
meanwhile if he was swapped with Kenobi's position on Ryloth, he would've just killed all the gutkurrs since he had a lightsaber
and has no chill
The SWTOR cinematics are like a litmus test to see what kind of Star Wars fan someone is lol
People whose favorite is Return are the duel enjoyers
People whose favorite is Deceived or Hope are the Battle Scene enjoyers
Sacrifice and Betrayed are plot/story/world building enjoyers, and Disorder fans are just people who played the game for too long lmao
Yes and she wasn't taught it nor did she learn it
nothing wrong with any of those categories of fans, but it just for me lets me know who has their priorities on what lol
Fr disorder fans are the ones who are still stuck in the mire of swtor pvp
PvP you say? 
Pfffffft
toxic he says 
Ok now play an arsenal merc
Give me a week and I'll be able to recreate this video the next time the gree event comes around Lol
I can do this on Sin as well 
lemme stop before i go down a rabbithole in the ahsoka channel lmao
It’s Ahsoka bro………. Of course she has psychometry and animal whispers. It’s literally AHSOKA! Thank god for our Lord David Filoni
"Why'd you bring me here?"
"Idk....Memba berries"
Man's just brings her to like the Normandy of the Clone wars, gets like Complete shellshock immediately
Then again I'd think Geonosis would be D-day for the Canon
"You lack bitches"
beautiful image
just wish we got it in a better show and as an actual thing and not a callback
Literally teaches Ahsoka to let go of her fears
nah bruh its fanservice
what u on about
Midpeakshitsoka
A sock
Sock
Midsoka

Soka
who else thought the live action clone troopers in episode 5 looked a bit off
i did , i think a lot of people did
because they’re not CGI like in the prequels, they’re actual guys
It looked a little jank but not egregious
i dont think it was that as the live action clones in kenobi looked like the ones in revenge of the sith
true…
and they looked fine
idk
I remember only the Phase I troopers looking weird
that might be it
it was probably just the budget
Also the stupid smoke covering everything
yes and i think also the actors for the young ashokas looked a bit young
oof
ill agree on the siege of mandalore part, but that part was just hyping up his own projects
in terms of the early clone wars parts, she looks fine
yes she does look fine at the early clone wars part as she was only around 14 but they should have gotten an older actor for the seige of mandalore and could have probably gotten some members of the 501st to play some of the phase 1 clones
yeah, i think whats also an issue is the design of the armour
the phase 1 looks like its trying to emulate the TCW style rather than the AoTC style
episode was filler though
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yoooo ahsoka hits hard bro!
@D4hz4hn On the plus side I think this episode gave him an idea for another fire fanfic
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is someone gonna tell him
It really do be like that
Litteraly character development
Plus they got to the new galaxy
Yall delusional

Bozo tryna say ahsoka had no development in this episode

mf ahsoka has no development at all since TCW S3

mfs be like "ahsoka has the best character arc in star wars" and im like
"what character arc?"
She immediately became much more cheerful after she woke up from the dream sequence
she learned to live
To not see that is ignorant at best
“Ahsoka the White” 💀💀💀
yeah that’s a bit cringe
But whatever
Filoni’s always really wanted to write Gandalf for some reason
bro thinks hes JRR tolkien
reminder that this marks basically the 3rd time ahsoka has died
3rd?
the actress is 16, so quite close to the age of the character in s7
lmao
it's kinda funny people are saying pointless things just to hate on the show
ok then my mistake
I'd say in terms of acting skills, they made the right choice.
shes fine, looks the part
but one thing you cant deny is the show is slow not much has happened in the first 5 episodes
the plot only moved forward with episode 4, and only 5 mins of episode 5 was relevant to the plot
it's not always about the plot
sometimes it's just about how the characters evolve and the journey
“I wish I’d spent more time arguing about the ahsoka show”
"bro the pacing is SUPPOSED to be bad"

who the fuck has said that

lets talk about Finn "journey"
from REYYYYYY to REEYYYYYYY
clone wars is so good mfs asking for it to be remade in live action
my opinions would remain the same
people who ship her with ahsoka most likely
What memesoon said and also legends fans
They should wipe the slate clean
get rid of everybody
and restart
Mandoverse is salvageable while the sequels are clearly not
also isnt barris like 23?
no they would butcher it
she’s 17 in tcw
REAL
she had one real good moment in season 5
Some people want her to ride on Ahsoka’s coattails so bad
I feel like there’s nothing left for her to do
im probably gonna eat my own words in the future but whateva
BUT BRO GOD FILONI SAID HE HAS PLANS FOR HER
Think there is more of something for her to do in bad batch then ahsoka
Maybe
Cause remember that in rebels you had luminara used as Jedi bait
get killed maybe
I would like to imagine sometime in bad batch luminara sacrificed herself to keep barriss from danger which lead to luminara’s imprisonment and later death
filoni fans explaining how barriss will totally show up because they conveniently forgot that the punishment for the crime was execution
Luminara’s not the type
She wasn’t very attached to barriss
I don’t imagine she would try to pull off a rescue mission for a terrorist
Redemption maybe or change of heart?
Especially in the darkest of times
yeah that’s just pure speculation
it would be extremely ooc for luminara to do it as we currently know her
pure speculation that barriss is even alive to begin with
It would just be a random ass pull to put barriss back on the board
when the most likely reality is the Republic or Empire shooting her in captivity
Midsoka
Fire new content idea
Barriss show that’s 8 episodes of her in prison before getting shot by the Coruscant guard
this would probably redeem him
luminara was on kashyyyk with the 41st
to he redeemed, you need to have done something wrong in the first place
how was shooting an armed criminal before someone got hurt stupid?
Palps had barris assassinated offscreen
Tbf executions aren’t immediate right after being trialed and takes a while until it happens, the door is open it’s just we haven’t seen anything that fully confirms of denies her fate
As for as the execution not present, allegedly filoni stated they had a scene of her killing herself with a detonator as suicide but he stated he decided not to include it and said they were plans for her
Weather that was him forgetting it and stated this for the mystery factor or that he was full on going with this direction we shall see
If she was still alive she would've undoubtedly have become an inquisitor.
How much time was there in between Ahsoka's trial and Order 66?
Within the same year apparently
that would be fucking funny
Fox is an easy person to pin the blame on
I really don’t think anyone else would’ve done anything different were they in his position
The 30% of the show that people don't skip
As far as he knew, an elite of the elite clone trooper attempted to kill the chancellor and was suffering from a mental breakdown, and then he finds him holding a Jedi general and a clone captain captive, and then after giving him several seconds to surrender, he goes for a gun
it would be kinda weird if he didn’t shoot him at that point like
Fox haters need to cope
it’s all Palpatine’s fault as usual
Could've used stun lol
I'd argue that he was still wearing armor but stun is so good it takes down even Commandos in a few shots
hE wEnT fOr a Gun
According to bad batch anyways 
Fox would've been ordered to kill him anyways
But I'm preeeeetty sure this guy is a bit more dangerous than Fives
just a lil bit
Rex was operating in a legal gray area
like
the guy that actually shot him got arrested and disappeared in the end
Fox was wielding the full authority of the chancellor
He was trying to not get his entire unit disappeared
That makes even less sense
If he had the full authority of the chancellor then he has the option to use his brain and not kill Fives but to capture him alive.
Yeah and the chancellor wanted him dead 💀
Palpatine NEEDED him to be dead.
Now, if thechancellor DID tell Fox TO kill Fives specifically then yeah sure, but thats not the argument
Why would Palpatine tell him to bring him in
the argument you all were behind is, "he was dangerous, he was reaching for gun" lol
It’s honestly a miracle Fox didn’t shoot him on sight
He gave him ample time to surrender
Are you now saying that if he surrendered he wouldn't have been killed?
Not there and then
Did palpatine predict Fives would reach for a blaster lol
Probably behind closed doors
And his death would be ruled as a suicide
Classic authoritarian strategy
I’m saying that you can’t blame fox given the information he had
So Fox is an authoritarian bootlicker
Yes?

Definitely seems like a decent reason for the Fox hate
People don't like those kinda of people
Oh that's the argument
Reminder that Fox didn't see Frontline combat until the battle of Coruscant. Being Coruscant guard and all so no time to become independent with the Jedi.
You're the one who said "Fox haters need to cope"
Like you can hate fox for not thinking for himself but what is suspicious about Fives
True
I meant you can’t blame fox for shooting fives
Yes, I can lol
clearly outlined above
At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions
Same goes for people who claim Anakin's actions were all the Jedi's fault. No, Anakin's fall was Anakin's fault lol. At the end of the day he has the autonomy
When you walk in on two high ranking military officers being held captive by functionally a terrorist that’s pretty good reason to pop his ass
Now if Fives was under literal control of say an inhibitor chip then yeah you could say you couldn't blame him
Even though she has the red lightsaber scene “I think it suits me” her speech makes it seem like regardless of her thoughts she still hates palpatine
And anakin would probably not have her in their service as an inquisitor
I used to be a blind Commander Fox hater now I’m just a situational commander Fox hater
Just realized Ahsoka brought a fucking bomb into a hospital in episode 2
reminder that palpatine would have wanted fives killed, but fox was willing to let fives stand down
all the people getting uppity and asking for live action clone wars and suggesting the worst ideas possible
I also have a leak here
Well go on then
turns out that in the show, ||It is revealed that Darth Vader isn't really Anakin. Darth Vader is actually a Clone Trooper medic that Palpatine brainwashed into believing was Anakin. The real Anakin survived Mustafar and founded a secret rebel organization dedicated to taking down Palpatine from the shadows||

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saw episode 4 just now
it was alright
shin is nicely written but baylan is not
even though Ray Stevenson was a great actor, baylan's lines are garbage
how was he so easily able to manipulatine sabine?
''you have a crush on ezra, we're going there and we can take you with us lololol''
erm
what the freak
baylan is the goat
um no
Moomin did a wrongthink
Totally bro. I loved when Shin said “you will regret this decision… 😡”
when Baylan said “your legacy, like your master’s, is one of death and destruction” total snoozefest 🥱
If Baylan is able to read minds and we are sure of that someone inform Moomin as I’m certain that’s what he did

witch: ''i sense fear in you''
baylan ''experience''
yeah moomin you are wrongthinking
baylan’s lines in episode 4 aren’t bad
the one word response thing kinda worked there
Moomin eating that slop up
Buh
yeah that's what i think
i think it's funny how that inquisitor dude just died the same way as snoke did 😂
Can’t make this shit up
Truly “to each their own” ya know
Nah
I’d sooner rewatch peakdor
that went hard tbh
The story of how an inquisitor could survive to the post Endor era would be a really cool one but alas they justed killed him off without any sort of characterization
just like snoke
and literally had the same memes too
Idk why
dude was clearly pointless from the getgo
Henchman #2
vibe
I mean Baylan and Shin were enough. Dunno the purpose of the guy in the first place
toys
it was literally another one of those subvert expectations moments
he came, he did nothing, he died
just a mild nuisance for ahsoka
night king style
yeah that's also tru
😹
Try to describe marroks character to a friend who knows nothing about star wars without talking about how he looks like
He isn't even a character
did you guys see Ahsoka’s lightsabers are white
generic lightsaber wielding bad guy
that’s it
he’s just a guy
what a worthless show
he’s functionally a more powerful stormtrooper
that’s not really a problem
should Marrok really be someone important?
Expecting a stormtrooper to have character time is bit much
Wasted an epic design
he’s just a different guy
Story of Star Wars
I mean it wasn’t that cool
It was same thing with the reaper inquisitor from tales of the jedi
the issue lies at the core of the inquisitors design
they're baddies invented for the sole purpose of having jedi fight someone with a lightsaber who isnt darth vader
but because theres so many, they're designated jobbers and ultimately disposable and replaceable
and obviously you cant have all the jedi fight vader all the time because they'll all have to lose, and a jedi who always loses wont be liked
a good character to compare to is ventress, she fits the same role in that shes there so jedi dont fight dooku all the time
but because shes just one character (with grievous taking up the same role) she's allowed some wins and an actual character that isnt just a disposable bad guy with a lightsaber
I think people would like inquisitors if they had some actual wins
I can’t even think of a single Jedi they’ve ever killed onscreen
and also none of them have interesting personalities
half of them are just brooding evil guys
that are evil for the sake of being evil
(which serve their purposes in storytelling but yknow not usually interesting rivals to main characters)
Reva’s annoying
and uh
the lady inquisitor from rebels is a creep
Only Grand inquisitor is remotely interesting
you're joking right
🤨
Bro doesn't like well-written characters with emotional depth
but thats cause theyre the only ones who actually have fleshed-out backstories
Question: does this opinion stem from you having watched rebels?
yes
Ah
and i've 100% fallen order like 10 times
Because the only grand inquisitor stuff I've seen is from kenobi
Ok then I'm willing to concede that GI may be on par or better than trilla because I haven't watched rebels. But those two are it
there was a really good scene in rebels about the grand inquisitor
so go watch rebels
maybe one of the best scenes in rebels actually
yep
No
you know which one i'm talking about right? lol
GI Kenobi doesnt count
yeah
i don't even need to say it
someone needs to explain to me why they like the GI
bro was the child birthday party version
where’s the depth
he was a Jedi and now he’s serving the sith?
Is the ep where kanan fights a temple guard but it's actually GI
he was a jedi temple guard
which are supposed to be the best of the best
which makes it interesting
They could have been lazy and just say "yeah its jedi #342
yes that's what i was talking about, how did YOU know?
but no , they presented him as a jedi guard , which him falling to dark side is probably less likely than a regular jedi
I must've remembered from some rebels highlights video I watched 
I will never watch the actual show
dont get me wrong im not saying GI is one of the best characters in star wars
that’s not that deep
i'm saying he's the best of the inquisitors
They're like the imperial crimson guard. Supposed to be the "best" but they don't do anything
that’s like kiddie pool deep
Yeah I understand
all of them are i believe
I just wish inquisitors would have been experienced jedi, turned by palpatine over time in preparation for order 66 instead of having younglings and half made jedis
im pretty sure sidious wasnt even planning on the inquisition originally
maybe idk, I assume they got some younglings based on the GI scouting for potential force sensitives in Rebels
he just had to make it because he didnt expect there would be so many survivors
Fucking Pong Krell would’ve been a crazy Inquisitor
truth
yep very good example
Why didn’t Palpatine turn the young Jedi into an Inquisitor Army? Is he stupid?
a point had to be made lmao
reva casually surviving a double stab to the chest
oopsie
Only good thing to come of reva were Hayden flashbacks
it's not THAT bad
there's some really really good moments there
it's one of those rare shows which get better with every season
Is Sabine force sensitive or not I still don’t get it
The shows point seems to be that you don't need to be force sens
But them playing the noise with the fake force push is sussy
I don't fucking know anymore and I don't want to care.
Uh yes you do
Are they stupid
Every other SW film has that established
No that you don't need the force to be a jedi
yeah
Which again
They're toying around with
Don't you need the force to guide you to duel with a lightsaber
The best of the best in Star Wars are only that way until they go up against MCs, and then they're like elite level NPCs lol
Well you can without it
but it’s uh
really difficult
And you’ll never be as good as someone with the Force
because they can predict your moves
this is also more offscreen lore but force users create a “bubble” around themselves while dueling which prevents other force wielders from doing fun shit like turning off their lightsaber or just pushing them
That’s the whole point of being a Jedi
Shin should’ve been able to simply ragdoll Sabine in their fight
The bubble isn't a constant right
You let it down and then you get cooked
It requires a little bit of concentration
That makes sense
Also if the person you’re fighting is stronger they can just ignore it
Palpatine fucking ragdolling maul
But anyway they better not be trying to say you don’t need the force to be a Jedi
That’s so dumb
Makes no sense at all
I will 100% always place blame on the Mandalorians for every bad thing to happen in regards to Star Wars worldbuilding, but the idea that a non-Force sensitive person let alone an entire culture can face-off against a Jedi or a Sith in melee combat and best them is one of the most ridiculous things that could have come out from the Mandos
eh
I disagree with that, if there’s nothing who can challenge Jedi or Sith in a fight then there’s no tension to them fighting anyone
Mandalorians still usually get bodied by Jedi though
Also here here’s my other counterpoint: mandalorians are cool and badass
And when I see Jedi fighting mandalorians I say “wow that’s cool and badass”
Dave filoni speechbubble.png
Pre Viszla, one of the strongest Mandalorians, still got beat up by Obi Wan and killed by Darth Maul
And Maul was holding back
The tension should come in the style of threat. The threat of the Mandalorians shouldn't be "lel they're jedi killers" it should be their popularity and infectious culture spread / warring ways
Maul cooked his ass. Vizla was using all of his gadgets, Maul didn't even use the force
Obi-Wan beat him and he wasn’t going to kill him because his GF would’ve been mad
Mandalorians being Jedi killers is sheer fandom hype
Only like one Jedi gets killed on screen by a Mandalorian
How did Mandos fare against jedi in the EU?
Jango Fett killed jedi with his bare hands in legends
The fuck







