#Stranger Things S5

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I personally think the show is 10/10 (Season 3 was my mid) and had a good ending. Its sad that its over. Alot of us didnt get what we wanted or expected.

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there was a huge “earthquake” that caused the military to set up a base for months and a big slimy spider monster is running around town and there’s a bunch of demos seen by a ton of people there’s totally nothing going on

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They wouldn’t leave that many signs it’s obvious

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They pay a LOT of attention to detail

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Mike came up with that to literally cope with her death, if she was alive I’m sure we’d know

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hopper should’ve accidentally killed eleven right there

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that would’ve made it a lot more interesting

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and steve shouldn’t have been caught by jonathan

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Not sure how they would’ve won without el

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It’s possible with will but

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yeah that would make it interesting

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they’re scared to kill anyone off

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It would’ve been interesting

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My theory of Kali and el dying was correct, tho as a Steve fan I’m glad he didn’t die but it rlly did seem like they wanted to kill him

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i’ve realized el never played dnd. but she lived it

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YALL

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KMG

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THE EL ENDING ALMOST MADE ME CRY

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BUT WHEN I FOUND OUT

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SHE

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WAS ALIVE

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I WAS SO HAPPY

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Tho I can see why they killed her

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I didn’t rlly understand it at first why but now it’s making a bit more sense

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Yeah

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They would keep experimenting on her

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And no she’s actually alive because there wasn’t a way she could use her powers to get into Mike’s mind

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It’s even more unlikely for her to escape since if she walked through there, she would’ve been in the path of 4+ sound things

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She’s just dead and the duffers knew there would be an outrage if it appeared flat out like that so they offered a choose your own ending

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When I thought byler was finna be something after she died though

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Will is not gonna hook up with his best friend after their best friend/girlfriend died

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It’s not real

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Byler is an imaginary ship created by the fans 😭 😭

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didn’t know we had this thread

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that’s typically how shipping works

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jancy bones byler bones mileven bones but stonathan lowkey winning

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Yes but people made it seem like it was part of the show and that the characters were written like that when they in fact were not 😭

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And too believe that uhh Joyce and hopper and Jonathan and Nancy are both engaged is happy and that giant ass creature they were fighting is crazy

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i didn’t expect byler to happen because i didn’t really think the duffers would let it happen lol

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but there was some points in the show that some fans felt was hinting and i kind of get their points

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no nancy and steve broke up i fear

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that scene in episode 7 was confusing as fuck but the duffers confirmed it was a breakup

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If you’re talking about the table scene that was a breakup….

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They both realized they needed to figure things out and their relationship was struggling immensely and was really only built off trauma that would be ending soon cause they were gonna die but they lived but didn’t get back together because they killed the mind flayer

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And it was an unproposal and they threw the ring away

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my favourite ship being bones ijbol

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DAMN

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I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE IT WAS

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lumax and jopper won tho so it’s whatever

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I was confused asf cause I was like what does an unproposal mean

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jancy breakup scene had to happen so jonathan had time to figure out his bisexuality and move in with steve #BigBrain

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stonathan kind of being the winner of the love triangle #sure

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like when we both watched it we assumed he did the unproposal because they thought they were gonna die so they wouldn’t have the chance to get married. but no it was a shit ass breakup 😭😭😭😭😭

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so glad they didn’t kill nancy or jonathan i was so scared

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2 of my favourite characters i would’ve just turned off the damn show

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ME TOO

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OH MY GOSH

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duffers think their funny 😭😭😭😭

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I NEARLY JUMPED UP

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cuz they KNEW everyone was scared steve was gonna die for a long ass time

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like ohhhhh my days

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And I choose to believe eleven is Alive because she’s my favorite character

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The thought of her dying makes me wanna scream

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likeeee

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fuck i hated that too

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both her and kali dying felt so fucked man

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the message being to end the cycle you gotta die like are you serious

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2 abused girls never got to live their lives like i was mad lowkey

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And too believe she was made by Vecnas blood too and that vecnas powers came legit from the upside down because it chose him

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also am i fucking stupid or like

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did they ever address WHY it was will specifically that vecna needed

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right right

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Who is byler

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The eleven death tho? I was not 100% sure about it

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I was shocked when she did it

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But it makes sense as to why

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still pissed me off

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What was jon wearing at the end there also Nancy dressed a lot older

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Bringing a character back just to kill em in a few episodes is indeed a crazy decision

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Also what happened with Vickie

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Robins gf or did I miss something

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When they were on the roof with Steve and the others

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Ok thats what I figured

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I wanna know what happened with Suzie

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And Murray

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Yep

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Yes exactly

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Eddies death was executed perfectly imo

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robin and vickie breakup up ohhhhhhh my days

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Kalis was very avoidable

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gay people not winning and lesbians not winning either oh my days

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gay people kind of winning cuz stonathan was kind of happening

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You told me

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Oh

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Anyways

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shipping something just because i think it’s kind of funny

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real shit i wish there was an alternative ending where vecna merges worlds

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I wonder what that would look like

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evb would die if that had happened

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besided the kids that were taken

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Tbh

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I rlly want a what if vecna joined the gang in defeating the mind flayer

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How would that have played out.. how would el have taken it? The rest of them..

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And would Henry end up dying as a “sacrifice”?

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Joyce chopping off his head was gnarly

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can someone make the joyce you fucked with the wrong family a gif already

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Elevens death might be fake

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In her “actual” death she has no tattoo

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So either the duffers forgot or the illusion was real and Kali left it out hoping someone would notice

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# nocturne token So either the duffers forgot or the illusion was real and Kali left it out hopin...

I think she’s alive.. there’s a LOT and the duffers love to hide a ton of small details

  1. The sonic machines were pointed at her but she still used her powers to pull Mike into her void
  2. She wasn’t phased by the sonic at all she could move and talk and stand there normally
  3. Her nose didn’t bleed after pulling Mike in
  4. Her hand flickered like kali’s illusions do
  5. She didn’t have a 011 tattoo
  6. She told Mike “he’ll understand later” she faked her death and ran off far to protect the group from the military
  7. Kali faked her death in front of hopper so he wouldn’t suspect el still being alive
  8. How did she enter the portal without the military seeing her she was in the truck and then she suddenly appeared in the portal
  9. The song that played while she died is the same song that played when will “died” in s1 and hopper “died” in s3
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where do we see her running.. and how would she just casually run past 100+ military in front of their eyes with nobody catching on

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Lmao they literally grabbed her too

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@nocturne token does this kinda change things?

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I believe El is alive

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the duffer brothers try not to piss me off challenge

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“i guess.”

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LIKE BRO THIS IS YOUR SHOW

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And we not talking 1 we talking various of ppl

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But smth about that would’ve been nice

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It’s not clear at all

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I feel like if they were, we would’ve heard it no?

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So at least one was on

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And then I think in a flashback Mike has we hear them on

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Hmmm

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So then is she alive truly?

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I don’t like how they left it like that tbh.. like it’s either she’s dead or she’s not

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Can’t be both

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Part of me tells me they did this to avoid backlash that they killed the most beloved main character

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I mean one important thing is she has no tattoo

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Even in her actual death scene before mikes vision

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It’s not visible in her wrist at all, not even like a little smudge

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Like ik this isn’t a thread about squid game but in the series finale, they killed off the main character for good and they got a ton of backlash but it was for good reason, idk why the duffers couldn’t just decide one fate if the show ends there

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So either they got rid of it somehow or the duffers forgot to put it on Millie 🙈

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But killing eleven just seemed unfair

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She deserves better

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She didn’t ask to be put in that life and it was somewhat over now but she decided to still die anyways

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Exactly

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Even if her getting shot was an illusion they still touched Kali

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Here’s where it gets tricky

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Kali could’ve made the illusion when the bomb went off to make it look like she did get shot and cloaked the entire room so that when eleven saw it she would also be hidden by the illusion

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And then Kali would’ve told the plan

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My other plot hole is how could she have traveled from Hawkins to wherever she ended up

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But in mikes alternate ending Eleven was still with Kali and Kali was bleeding out even when she made the MACZ eleven illusion

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Hmmmm

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So I don’t think Kali faked her death with illusions I think she did get shot in both endings

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But what doesn’t make sense is her living

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You saw how much blood got soaked in and pooled up

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And if she dies there’s no illusion

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She would’ve had to live another hour at least from her death to eleven getting to the MACZ

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And when she sat up I feel like all the blood would’ve drained from the upper half of her body and out the wound

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Exactly

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And then she somehow has to keep an illusion going for like 2-3 minutes

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While blood drains from her brain

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Unless the duffers are putting on some crazy ass plot armor for Kali she def died before they even got back from the abyss

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Now I know it’s filmed in Iceland but maybe its not Iceland and it’s like Canada or smth

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No matter where she went or how she got there

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Unless she just hides out in some deep woods

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Which obviously didn’t happen

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Idk tbh, now that I think of it I find it kinda annoying/disappointing they just threw us 2 endings for one character bc they didn’t wanna handle possible backlash

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And they just tell us to interpret it how we want to

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Like wdymmmm this is your showwww if you were able to give us a definitive ending for every single other character then you should give us a definitive ending for the most important main character

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I wanna see the table reads to see the casts reactions

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I wonder if the table reads will reveal smth

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Although from the interviews that are coming out it looks like they wanna lean in on the fact that she still is alive

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And crying probably

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Most def

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I kinda knew eleven was gonna die in some way because there was an interview of her and Noah I believe and they get asked if they’re happy with their characters endings and she didn’t respond and then they asked her specifically and she like looks like she’s about to cry and hesitates and says yeah in the most unconvincing way

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Honestly we need an interview with Millie where she interprets and gives her thoughts on her characters ending and what it rlly was

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Yeah

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Like if there’s anyone that prob know it’s her

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It’s her character after all

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I feel like I haven’t seen any interviews with her

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Like since the finale

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They were supposed to watch the finale together the entire cast

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But she didn’t attend bc of an injury from what I read

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So that’s prob why if I had to guess

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Although I guess cause it is the new years but it felt like they prerecorded some the interviews or smth but ig not this time or they never did idk

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the duffer brothers left her ending ambiguous because they wanted SOMEONE to die (who better than the main character) but they wanted the potential to bring back their cash cow in the future, and this way they don’t have to make a plot hole

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To me it rlly shows that they were most def scared of some backlash

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Like if this is the end like you say it is then give each character a definitive ending

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No need to be scared of the backlash, as long as the death is reasonable and makes sense who gaf what ppl think

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Who is the main character

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Is it Will and eleven

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I feel like Will is the main character but Eleven is like the lead if that makes sense

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I’d say 11

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There can be multiple but there is def a lead

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And it’d be 11

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Yeah

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i feel like mike and eleven were the main characters

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there’s a reason the show ends with mike closing the door and looking back at the new party

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he’s like a self insert

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Makes sense

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YOU DIDNT EVEN READ THE SIGNS

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It’s a show realism doesn’t exist lmfao

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She was in the upside-down

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I want season 6 :(

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i want el back

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i want ppl to acknowledge lucas carried max through a whole hospital and never stopped playing the song because he didnt want to give up hope 😭

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out of the whole cast, my fav was the only one to die i hate it here

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i think people don’t understand that dustin’s anger is not just a result of eddie dying. it’s him being scared to lose more people, especially steve, which is why he was pushing him away.

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like he’s just a kid and he’s been through so much

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and steve was always attempting to be the hero, potentially sacrificing himself

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also he’s still a teenager

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overall, his characterization of grief (anger) was really well written

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it’s hard to understand grief if you’ve never been through it. it isn’t linear, and it doesn’t present itself the same for everyone.

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like dustin’s best friend was murdered in front of him, and the entire town believed he was the second coming of christ

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my best friend died when i was 16 and like yeah but also u rlly dont have to do all that

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which is stupid like anyone can agree, it never helps

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i can’t imagine having my mom bitten to death in front of me

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im currently grieving right now and im making sure not to push anyone away. i might be older now but even when i was a kid i knew theres no point in hurting others when youre hurting

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at the time it helped me

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we have fight or flight instincts during grieving as well

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the person wouldve wanted you to be better, and hurting others and yourself because theyre gone isnt honoring their legacy

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honor what they would have wanted for you

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this is what my therapist told me

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and those around you tend to understand that

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imo, ive grieved a lot of different people, and you can choose how you grieve. like my dad died a week ago. i felt myself have to decide to push everyone away or accept the fact that its awful but theres no point in hurting more. im choosing to move on, and choosing to believe that theres nothing i could have done. so imo, you can choose how you grieve

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Grieving is a process that isn’t linear, like I said.

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Anger is a part of that process

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And it is a healthy part of that process

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everyone ive met that ive had this discussion with has figured it out. i agree that its hard, and its awful, but sometimes you need to tough it out and get through it. anger is a part of that process, but specifically relating to the show, he had 18 months, and anger is the 3rd stage of grief.

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The “stages” can occur at any point and aren’t linear

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they can also coincide

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my therapist said it may be not exactly like that, but that is the natural pattern of feelings

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anger is also a secondary emotion, so it shouldnt be what you act on

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Also, 18 months to grieve while you are in an apocalypse situation is not the same

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fair but like i said, he has the right to be sad, he doesnt have the right to treat everyone in his life like shit

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what youre going through isnt an excuse to take it out on others who did nothing wrong

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Every character in stranger things has at one point or time taken their grief out on another person, especially since they are just kids. They are only human.

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im just saying theres never an excuse to do it. its understandable, but its not okay

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We as humans understand that grief, and we understand that the anger is not directed necessarily at them, but just a part of their grief. Steve understood that in the scene, and let Dustin grieve. They worked it out together and got to the root

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IMO, I feel it’s a lack of empathy to not understand when someone’s anger comes from their grief

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again, you can UNDERSTAND AND ACKNOWLEDGE ITS NOT OKAY

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all caps was unnecesary mb

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just wanted to say that again

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I mean I’m sure Dustin realized that after the fact, but to hate the character for his irrationality during his grieving process shows a profound lack of nuance to the situation— the situation being that he’s a 16 year old who has been through several situations that no kid should have to be through— lost his best friend, only for people to beat on him for honoring his friend and call him a satanist, only to be thrown into another apocalyptic situation in which his father figure is thrusting himself back into the sacrificial position. Obviously he would be angry.

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i never said i hate him gang 🥀 i said i relate cuz i went through a similar thing at a similar age, and i said i understand but its not okay

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he apologized for it cuz the character also knew it wasnt okay

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Obviously it’s okay to have an opinion on a character

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But I was just pointing out why that stance (hating a character for being annoying for grieving) might have some lack of nuance

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Steve dealt with the situation like a champ.

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wait i’m kinda mad we didn’t get a keith cameo for the last season

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Would yall believe me if I said that Kali's actor is older than Eddie's, Nancy's, Jonathon's, and Robin's?

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If you click the full images you can see their ages

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This interview is kinda old and I saw it and knew smth bad was gonna happen to Eleven 😭

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I figured she was either gonna die or had to go away

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btw it's interesting how max still graduated the same year even despite being in a coma

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for how long was it?

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year and a half

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So apparently rumor has it that Millie is the only person aside from the duffers who knows elevens true fate/ending

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Not sure how true that is

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But if it’s true then that is rlly stupid lowk.

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Besides the time jump from losing El to graduation was 18 months, I’m sure she managed to strike a deal and do multiple classes at once

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I highly doubt it though since she didn’t see happy with her ending so that either implies she’s happy that her true ending is eleven dying or her true ending is eleven being separated from the group

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Karen didn’t have scars in the final scene 💀

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She has them at graduation but then they disappear when she calls the kids up

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They’re tryna say there’s a bonus episode

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Likeeee it’s the finale of the biggest shows 😭

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They’re not gonna make a bonus episode that changes that after people have already seen what is known as the finale

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Like bruh, y’all know THIS SHIT AINT happening

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😭

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This why people thought we were getting another episode, its just bts footage

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Omg

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So did you guys like season 5

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I personally did

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10/10

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The whole show, 8.5/10

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Season 3 was my mid

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Which I completely disagree with

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Did u guys see this

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uhh no

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This just showed up on my timeline lol

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They’re saying a new secret episode with the real ending will come out 😭

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Turns out it was the 5th

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Yeah but people were saying the 7th and I thought yesterday was the 7th 💀

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Oh lmaoo 😭

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This is confirmed by the duffers

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The rumors are true she indeed does know and so do they

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Which I think imo adds more fuel to the fire

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Their reasoning for not telling ppl wasn’t a strong one either

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Either she was unhappy that it wasn’t a true ending or that eleven dies

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Or she was just acting lol

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But idk cause Sadie said she was extremely happy with her ending before she was even revealed in the show I believe

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And they seem to have no intentions on saying anything about it or revealing it

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Sooo theres a 9th episode?

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I also dont believe that just wondering

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as the biggest rep tv clown

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we’re getting episode 9 tonight

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you’re not a big enough rep tv clown

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we could also get rep tv tonight

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with the vault tracks used in episode 9

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And the chances of an ep 9 are as high as getting the reputation album re recorded (not the vault)

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they both could happen tonight you never know

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I just wonder where did oeople even get these theories?

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They couldn’t accept the ending was mid

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Helpp i also saw that

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El is getting married to Mike

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In Netflix’s

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What’s next for 2026

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and she says

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“this year you will question everything”

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they’re like taylornation they love feeding our delusions

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who

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A Netflix show Millie is in

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I think it’s the 3rd season this year

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conformity gate tonight??

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yeah about all the 1 7s

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1+7=8

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Girl

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im the biggest rep tv clown what did you expect

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i clowned every night of the eras tour

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🌚

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wills coming out speech being longer than the actual final fight scene 🥀

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@tender basin I actually never got your opinion on the stranger things ending how did you like it

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she deserved to live

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they were so unrealistic about so many things

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there's no way they couldn't pull some strings to keep her alive

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Exactly like send her away out of Hawkins that’s the only place they would look too find her and if they kept her hidden from them for months they can do it again

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just make her powers be gone or smth i guess

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They wrote those long episodes they can definitely write how she lost her powers like they did in season 4

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i know a conformity gater when i see one

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Hang in there bros... just a few more hours

soft ingot
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In my mirror sometimes I act like I’m eleven moving shit with my mind

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But my psychic powers never worked that way I can only predict the future that’s boring

topaz maple
solar rain
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Real

rigid plume
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Conformity gate with drop along with rep tv mark my words

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The show ends in 1989

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So baby taylor will make an appearance in episode 9

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and the rep tv vault will play

civic fractal
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(Not me, I dont belive in ep 9)

topaz maple
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I asked my coworker if she was watching the behind the scenes documentary and she said no because she was pissed there was no secret episode mewlorswift

soft ingot
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I watched the ending again and I just cried

tiny cosmos
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Ohh

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Help

sharp ivy
soft ingot
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I THREW A BOULDER AT THE MIND FLAYER BITCH

sharp ivy
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Even though it was mid at best imo

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Too many unanswered questions in 2 hours

soft ingot
sharp ivy
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what does that mean

soft ingot
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Foah

sharp ivy
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oh

soft ingot
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Autocorrect turning against me

sharp ivy
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well.. finn is cool, noah is….

soft ingot
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Not so cool

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And is it me or is Millie Bobby brown very controlling of him

sharp ivy
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idk

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millie is just

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millie

soft ingot
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Yeah

soft ingot
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What is yall least favorite season

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Mine is 1 most likely

tiny cosmos
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Idk maybe this last one no offence

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Altought its been a sec since i watched first 3

soft ingot
tiny cosmos
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But yeah they legit got noone killed

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Just made sidecharacters

soft ingot
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Right like they bullshitting

soft ingot
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@keen quest are we ever finna close this thread