Eras Tour Vienna Cancellation

[gloomy steeple]

That hate goes to everyone in Europe who doesn’t believe in the stuff the terrorists do.

[knotty root]

they thought the people in the crowds + taylor herself deserved to die

[gloomy steeple]

This isn’t the first time the IS has set Europe in fear and anger

[knotty root]

oh yeah i know

[gloomy steeple]

They think everyone here deserves to die.

[knotty root]

it’s just really big this time. 20k people dead would’ve started wars with whoever supported ISIS

[gloomy steeple]

And yea that is absolutely horrible

[knotty root]

they think everyone that doesn’t follow them deserves to die

[next coral]

Yeah im crying again reading this

[next coral]

What?

[gloomy steeple]

That’s the point. They are still radicalized and think it is right what they intended to do

[knotty root]

take a break whenever you need to! 🤍

[knotty root]

ISIS thinks everyone that doesn’t follow them are infidels and deserve to die

[knotty root]

the internet radicalized them it says.

[gloomy steeple]

Indeed.

[next coral]

Wow

[gloomy steeple]

The main actor posted a video in which he swore to the leader

[gloomy steeple]

Which means especially the west is targeted.

[next coral]

I think entire europe is targeted atp

[gloomy steeple]

And every building related to other religions

[knotty root]

europe + north america is really targeted

[next coral]

I remember in my country some terrorists burned down churches during easter.

[gloomy steeple]

Correct. The event in Vienna was the biggest one besides the Olympics

[next coral]

Ik i just wish everyone will be safe atp

[gloomy steeple]

They planned to attack Vienna’s main church at Christmas’s eve last year

[next coral]

WHAT

[gloomy steeple]

Also Vienna’s main station a month before

Main train station

[next coral]

....

[knotty root]

last time a terrorist attack happened that was massive we (america) went to war. so people saying “there’s no country to target” is false. if 20k people died they would FIND a country to attack

[next coral]

Can i make gc with you guys ?

[knotty root]

i know that’s america but like, 20k people is a whole lot of people for any country

[next coral]

I dont want us to get banned if we say something against the rules

[knotty root]

sure!

[next coral]

Accept friend request

[frank yacht]

hm

[gloomy steeple]

Yea, Vienna came up with some alternative activities for swifties who have no opportunity to cancel their hotels or get another flight. I am a local but I didn’t go out yet because I am still down bad and was even worse yesterday.

[gloomy steeple]

Last time a terrorist happened was on a rock concert in Moscow

[native lichen]

they wouldnt just attack a random country

[gloomy steeple]

That was a few months ago

[next coral]

i have a theory but i cant say it here which countries they are after

[knotty root]

there are countries that support ISIS

[native lichen]

well good luck with that

[next coral]

which ones

[native lichen]

most of these countries are supported by iran and thats a big deal

anyways i gtg

[knotty root]

iraq is one of them obviously but i need to make sure what they are before i start naming random countries

[next coral]

i think all middle eastern countries

[knotty root]

or iran, or both. one is then support ISIS

i get mixed up between them

[next coral]

i think both

syria also

[knotty root]

well actually it says this

i’m not sure what that means

[next coral]

same

but i swear i think we all should unite atp against them and put differences aside if we dont europe and north america is doomed

[knotty root]

we will be fine

ISIS is much weaker than they want us to think

[next coral]

but im nervous in my country at easter they burned churches and ki..... people

[knotty root]

that’s a valid feelings . its scary.

[next coral]

but i think unity would still benefit us all

[knotty root]

we have NATO

[heady sky]

OMG no

[knotty root]

well some european countries do

[next coral]

my country is against one sadly 😭

i hate living in serbia atp

[gloomy steeple]

We are not part of nato

[heady sky]

What's NATO?

[gloomy steeple]

Since we are neutral

[next coral]

nato is military alliance

[knotty root]

i’m not talking about austria or a specific country

[heady sky]

E

[next coral]

in my country they call them terrorists and said nato burned churches like wtf 😭

[knotty root]

originally it was to protect european countries from russia but now it’s just a general thing

[next coral]

not russia but soviet union

[knotty root]

yeah

[heady sky]

Soviet Russia.

[knotty root]

that’s why russia attacked ukraine btw, ukraine was about to join nato.

[next coral]

ik

[native lichen]

Well

[next coral]

and russia and serbia are like against nato

[knotty root]

in their eyes they would’ve never gotten “their land” back without dealing with nato

[gloomy steeple]

Wasn’t Ukraine about to join nato after the war started

[next coral]

and russia is knowing for backstabbing serbia and other countries

[native lichen]

Yes

[knotty root]

russias government is just a pile of shit

[gloomy steeple]

The war was started randomly

[next coral]

real

i feel bad for people there mainly who are normal same here in serbia who think like me

[knotty root]

so much land and for what?

[next coral]

like russia isnt one of biggest countries in world

[knotty root]

they spend all their income trying to attack other countries

russia’s military is REALLY weak, they just have nukes

[next coral]

ik

[gloomy steeple]

That’s why the are paying for soldiers

[heady sky]

So much for being wise with their spending of resources

[knotty root]

i don’t blame people from Russia at all btw. it’s the government and some people don’t have much choice

[next coral]

i got attacked here in serbia for voting that i want serbia in eu and nato cuz its gonna help country and not gonna backstab like how russia did...

[tepid juniper]

russia’s military is quantity over quality, there’s fucking loads of them but theyre not trained well

[knotty root]

yeah

[kindred abyss]

no there isn't???? isis is a terrorist group

[knotty root]

i know but some countries support it

[heady sky]

Well they need to find that equal balance, not one more than the other

[kindred abyss]

isis has attacked iran and syrias military and civilians

[kindred abyss]

where's a source for this?

[heady sky]

Russia's government is incredibly corrupt. Its unbelievable.

[knotty root]

they’re too obsessed with trying to get “their land” back

[gloomy steeple]

Fuck haters on ig

[heady sky]

Ridiculously I must say

[knotty root]

they want the soviet union back i think

[kindred abyss]

?

[gloomy steeple]

Replying to my comments - I’ll just report if the replies are getting highly inappropriate

[next coral]

yes this

[knotty root]

if u told me last week that i would be talking about russia’s military and ISIS in a taylor swift discord group i would’ve laughed in your face. people are so evil

[next coral]

LMAO REAL can you come dm tho ?

[knotty root]

sure!

[tepid juniper]

From my knowledge, no countries directly support ISIS, some indirectly finance it but it’s mostly large donations from people inside certain counteies

Certain states have been accused of it but there isn’t any solid evidence I don’t think

[heady sky]

Imagine donating to ISIS. Are people fucked in the head that badly?

[kindred abyss]

according to them, no

they donate to what they believe in, to us they're fucked in the head but to them it's just who they support

[tepid juniper]

It’s just what they believe in, to them it isn’t wrong

[heady sky]

Well their beliefs are interfering

[tepid juniper]

Western countries aren’t completely innocent either, we’ve targetted terrorists and killed innocent civilians in the process. Obviously we’ve been actually targetting people but still killed

[heady sky]

And extremely forced on.

[kindred abyss]

we forgetting that the UK, poland, australia and USA shamelessly bombed and invaded iraq? it goes both ways

[tepid juniper]

Yeah exactly

[kindred abyss]

ISIS' actions are fucked up to us, but western world isn't much better

[heady sky]

When did the UK bomb irap?

[kindred abyss]

2003? iraq war?

[heady sky]

I wouldn't have known

[kindred abyss]

why not?

[heady sky]

Because I was born 2007

[native lichen]

It doesn't matter?

[tepid juniper]

The war went on for nearly 10 years

[kindred abyss]

that doesn't matter it's still common knowledge, also why do you have senior swiftie role then?

[heady sky]

I'm 19

?

[kindred abyss]

2007 to 2024 isn't 19

my sister is 16 and born 2008 what

[heady sky]

Oh wait shit 2008

WAIT

Let's get shit straight here

[nimble aurora]

[heady sky]

If you were born 2006, you would be 18 rn

[native lichen]

So you're 17

[nimble aurora]

yes i am 18 in 3 months

[heady sky]

If you were born 2007, you would be 19

[kindred abyss]

?

[native lichen]

HOW

[heady sky]

My birthday is not 2006

[nimble aurora]

time reversing

2007 peeps are 17😭

[native lichen]

girl 2007 is 17

[kindred abyss]

these r the mfs in the vienna chat, no wonder people are spreading misinformation 😭

[nimble aurora]

2007+19=2026

[heady sky]

I literally turned 19 last July wdym

[native lichen]

HOW

[kindred abyss]

what year were you born

[nimble aurora]

2+2=6 becauses theres an additional two in it that they dont tell you because the government

[native lichen]

😭

[nimble aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/two-plus-two-equals-six-government-gif-24638410

[kindred abyss]

guys im 25 even though i was born in 2001

[native lichen]

If you are 19 you were born in 2005 not 2007

🤨

Is you lying about your age

[heady sky]

I had them mixed up. I'M NOT OK

[kindred abyss]

sure thing

19 and don't know about the iraq war?💀

[native lichen]

You make my brain hurt

[heady sky]

Whatever. Change the subject

[kindred abyss]

okay so ur 17 got it

😭

[heady sky]

No I'm not. Can you actually be quiet

[kindred abyss]

🤐

[heady sky]

Taylor has said nothing yet and that's ok

[kindred abyss]

she doesn't need to say anything

i don't see why people are forcing her to, she doesn't need to.

[heady sky]

That's why I said it's ok. Poor Taytay. My prayers goes to Taytay and her dancers and singers and crew

[native lichen]

Give her timeeeeeeeee we don't need to mention that every fucking day

[gloomy steeple]

same, I am worried about her

[kindred abyss]

fr her and her fans were targets of a terrorist attack let her come to terms with that first

[sand wraith]

Fellas just remember that taylor wasn't the target

[native lichen]

Right

[heady sky]

You're right she isn't.

[kindred abyss]

her concert was a target though?

[native lichen]

Also this yeah, the crowd was the target

[heady sky]

It's the massive crowd

[tepid juniper]

Taylor definitely would not have been harmed

[sand wraith]

Her fans were. It's OK to feel bad for taylor but it's good that it's her and not the thousands of fans who could be been injured or killed in this

She's been through a lot but this is best case scenario

[heady sky]

I'm glad no casualties took place. Everyone took cover. Thank God

[kindred abyss]

she was also targeted in some way though? they chose HER concert due to her popularity.

[sand wraith]

But she would've come out fine. Plus there were other targets too.

[gloomy steeple]

Because it was the largest festival in Vienna since years.

And the younger audience was a specific target too

[kindred abyss]

she wouldn't have been fine if thousands of her fans died or were injured? what kind of mindset is this

[heady sky]

Ohhh that's why.

[kindred abyss]

ariana grande wasn't hurt, yet she wasn't fine either

[gloomy steeple]

She actually cares about us

[heady sky]

She was hurt emotionally tho

[kindred abyss]

yes.. so she wasn't fine??

[heady sky]

Exactly

[native lichen]

No singer would be fine knowing their fans died or got injured in their concert

[sand wraith]

You see where your logic falters? Sure taylors devastated, and she would have been far more devastated if the attack had went ahead. But physically she was never in danger. Her thousands of fans were though. That's the more important thing here.

[kindred abyss]

i never said one thing was more important than the other? stop twisting my words. i said that she wouldn't be "fine" if it happened.

[sand wraith]

I'm not twisting your words I never said that you believed that, I was making a general statement earlier because I believed the focus has been too much on taylor herself

[kindred abyss]

literally i don't understand why people are saying she would've been fine

[sand wraith]

Physically fine

[native lichen]

People said that??

[kindred abyss]

^

finally added the physical part after i mentioned it

[sand wraith]

Again, physically fine. Now who's twisting whose words

[kindred abyss]

you didn't say physical at first, so you understand my confusion

you added that after i mentioned that she wouldn't be fine at all

[gloomy steeple]

It’s still bs to say she’s fine if you know Taylor

[sand wraith]

But you're still persisting that I said she'd be fine altogether

[kindred abyss]

i literally said you didn't say physical at first and there was some confusion

[kindred abyss]

^ right here.

[sand wraith]

Did you not read the message I sent before

Because that cleared up all the confusion

[heady sky]

I genuinely just want to give Taylor a big hug. Hard for us. Hard for her. It hurts us all

[valid sparrow]

🫠

[kindred abyss]

yep

[valid sparrow]

Yeah for sure

[gloomy steeple]

me too

[kindred abyss]

it's fair to say that it never happened and that's good, but imagine how much it is dwelling on her and fans who were due to go right now

i can't imagine how you feel george

[gloomy steeple]

And she would be blamed if she wasn’t physically hurt because mentally the death of any fan hurts her so hard

[valid sparrow]

Yeah I understand all sides

[nimble aurora]

living with the knowledge that you could've been in the biggest concert attack in history just doesn't sit right to me

[gloomy steeple]

The history part is not important to me it’s more the wellbeing of her and other swifties who would have been there

I was already at the stadium on Wednesday

[heady sky]

I don't want to think of the fatal ending. I'm really glad everyone in Vienna survived

That's what I'm grateful for

[pallid dagger]

Were people actually attacked for wearing merch

I'm still in Vienna and some of us are wearing merch

[umbral ivy]

no its an unconfirmed rumour

[pallid dagger]

Ah okay

[umbral ivy]

everyone's wearing their concert outfits and trading bracelets around the city:)

[pallid dagger]

I've been seeing lots of swifties and no issues

[pallid dagger]

Looks like they arrested a 3rd person today

18 year old

[crisp yarrow]

Is what do you think about London guys at this point

[gloomy steeple]

I was not, the other rumors are not officially confirmed

I did not go out since Wednesday

Maybe tmr to join the ppl and visit the vinyl store

[pallid dagger]

It's gonna happen but there will definitely be animosity around it

[crisp yarrow]

But Taylor hasn’t said it’s happening

[knotty root]

dude

[knotty root]

they said it was happening. at least the government/city or whatever said it

[heady sky]

Wtf is wrong with him

He's actually fucked in the head

Bro thought he ate

[knotty root]

i love this community so much

[gloomy steeple]

I may go there tmr

[knotty root]

love will always be stronger than terror

[royal oasis]

@gloomy steeple did u go out today

[gloomy steeple]

I did not

But I am planning to do so tmr

I was so sad when I got up that I decided to just not go out one day longer

[rare drum]

u should go

theres still alot of people singing rn too definitely worth it

[heady sky]

I expected all of Vienna to be empty tbh

[knotty root]

source: trust me bro

[heady sky]

Like everyone at home

[rare drum]

they just sang august

[heady sky]

I JUST SANG AUGUST

[open oak]

safest space on earth destroyed by another terrorist

fuck them

[royal oasis]

yay

wisah i could find a livestream of todays stuff

i enjoyed watching the vibe yesterday so much and kinda wished i was there for the vibe

[next coral]

I wish taylor would post something

[wraith tangle]

Huh

[knotty root]

well first off its an ongoing investigation so they probably aren't allowed to say anything and second off her show was almost bombed and a mass attack would've happened. she doesnt have to post something right now

but eventually she will

[next coral]

Yeah i know i said i wish she did not to post i know she will post eventually

[royal oasis]

the shock some of us have when we realised what couldve happened has to be 100 times worse for taylor

because if i were in taylor shoes i would be feeling things like im the reason they came here ...

and just that though alone is haunting

[heady sky]

It's me hi. I'm the problem It's me.

[next coral]

Yeah true she alr felt bad after rio incident and if this happened it would mentally kill her

[open oak]

Theres man terrorists

In vienna and ruining eras tour

[wraith tangle]

Ok there's man terrorists everywhere

[open oak]

Thats the info we got from tiktok so far

[wraith tangle]

And have been

[open oak]

Lets not normalize man terrorists please, thank you.

[knotty root]

tiktok is not a reliable source of info. i'd go to a news article instead

[heady sky]

Female terrorists exist

[wraith tangle]

Ok hope your brother gets better

[knotty root]

most terrorists group hate women

or hate women that have their own mind

[open oak]

Its not woman’s fault now

Terrorist is Terrorist, Gender doesn’t matter they both need to be in jail

[hazy valve]

Tik tok is the last place you should be getting your sources/info from

[royal oasis]

the actual info we have is
3 people have been arrested, 19, 17 and 15 years old. The 15 year old has been let go and was only questioned. one of the other 2 was hired as a security guard and they planned to attack the stadium with suicidebomb and knives

[open oak]

Let go?!

Hired as security guard?

[royal oasis]

as well as the authorities are still investigating but currently arent looking for anybody else

[open oak]

ARE THEY THIS DUMB TO HIRE THEM

What is wrong with this world

[royal oasis]

look, the people that did 9/11 got airplane training terrorists slip through nooks and crannies by pretending to be normal citizens

[wraith tangle]

@open oak it's common for big events to hire additional security/workers

[heady sky]

There's this btw

[open oak]

Oh

[heady sky]

Zoom in to read

[open oak]

ur so lucky to be informed by new papers that tradition in my town died literally 30 years ago

[royal oasis]

I was informed by listening to the press conference yesterday

[open oak]

So now the safe space which was eras tour is no longer safe ig.

[royal oasis]

which was in german buit with automatic translating subtitles i figured it all out

[heady sky]

Oh

[wraith tangle]

You can get informed online too. More current as well

[open oak]

even in lana del rey’s concert there was pr@dtors one girl recorded, They are on hunt.

[open oak]

Yes yes ill try to get informed

[royal oasis]

okay i say this with a grain of salt but yes it is relatively safe, there is always the possibility of there being more people to this terrorism plot but as for now it seems to have been foiled

[open oak]

Is police even working on this?

[royal oasis]

ofcourse why wouldnt they be?

[open oak]

I dont know! Anything can happen in this century!

[wraith tangle]

If you read anything it always says the investigation is ongoing

[open oak]

Ohhhh

[wraith tangle]

Also police don't give all information out to the press

[royal oasis]

I think part of the reason the concerts got cancelled is because they hired him as a security guard which means likely he had access to all kinds of locations and basically the whole stadium is compromised in regards to bombs and needs to be swept thouroughly

[open oak]

Anyway, Will the people who paid for the ticket get refund? or next destination is still London

Or it will still be performed but delayed

[royal oasis]

Organiser has put out a statement that people will get refunds within the next 10 business days

[open oak]

I haven’t seen Taylor making any comment about this?

Or she’s still in shock

[royal oasis]

Indeed as of right now no public statement has been made by taylor

[wraith tangle]

Like they're not gonna say "we have reason to believe XandY people were staying in Z district. Our investigation will focus on that area."

Even though they might have that information they won't tell that to the press

[open oak]

Polices know more then us but they dont share anything

[wraith tangle]

Yes exactly

[royal oasis]

which is a good thing btw

[wraith tangle]

And they don't need to share

[open oak]

we should also investigate polices aren’t enough sometimes

[royal oasis]

in cases of terrorism you want to play your cards as the police close to your chest

[open oak]

What are people in vienna doing rn? i hope they are informed

Anyway, Stay safe guys❤️🤟🏼

[royal oasis]

Yesterday a shit ton of swifties gathered on karlplatz and sang songs the entire day same for corneliusgasse

there are parties around town

[wraith tangle]

Also @open oak it's not just some Vienna police investigating. There are other organizations working especially if the suspects were associated with ISIS

[royal oasis]

for which some if you have a ticket you get free access or drinks

[open oak]

PARTIES? bffr.

Instead of protesting they do parties

[royal oasis]

What is there to protest,

theyre turning their bad thing(cancellation) into something atleast memorable and enjoyable

[open oak]

I dont know, they should do something, right?

[wraith tangle]

No of course not

[open oak]

thats so stupid but i wish they have good time, wish them best

[wraith tangle]

If you don't mind my asking how old are you @open oak

[open oak]

Anyway stay safe guys, cya in meredith

[open oak]

Fifteen, what about it

[royal oasis]

@open oak

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZIJnowMkv/ THIS WAS THE VIBE IN VIENNA

[open oak]

Anyway guys, I should be going now because next month skl starts and i have to get my skl books from school

[royal oasis]

the entire day it was like

and yes there was police everywhere

[gloomy steeple]

a newspaper mentioned that too

[open oak]

okay, okay.

[gloomy steeple]

last night till 1 am

[open oak]

Bye guys 😀❤️ Stay safe

[royal oasis]

I thought 2 am lol

[open oak]

Bye wilde

[gloomy steeple]

it was past 1 actually yes

[royal oasis]

but nachtruhe

[gloomy steeple]

I guess that's the reason why police told them to stop after 1

they'd have been there till 6 am or sth

[royal oasis]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZIJW1SMTg/

[open oak]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS2eCjckn/ this is wholesome even tho idk how to react.

[knotty root]

oh my thats so sweet

[gloomy steeple]

If I go there I def need to make more bracelets

[wraith tangle]

Terrorist want to strike fear, distrust daily life, etc. By gathering in the streets this is a way of "protest"

[gloomy steeple]

cuz when I started at the 7th at 10 pm I read about the cancellation and stopped

I had the first one ready when I read the news

like I can't go there with one like wtf that's a shame

[knotty root]

like i said, terror is so much weaker than love and joy.

[royal oasis]

the people going "that is so dangerous" need to read the news because they caught the fuckers and authorities say they arent looking for anyone else right now

[gloomy steeple]

they still have connections

that's the only point but the suspects are arrested

[wraith tangle]

All the suspects?

[gloomy steeple]

the main actors

[wraith tangle]

Wasn't it 2 caught 3 missing. Then a 3rd was caught. So 2 missing?

[royal oasis]

old news

like very old news which has been corrected

[knotty root]

we dont know. people keep acting like we know but we dont

[warm sigil]

Rlly good for anyone going to wembley

Better security was needed bad

Hope anyone going gets to enjoy their show happy and safe x

[pallid dagger]

They got an 18 year old this morning

[gloomy steeple]

I heard nothing of that

source?

may not be valid

that's for wembley

[pallid dagger]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/world/europe/taylor-swift-concerts-vienna-attack-arrests.html

[pallid dagger]

Happened a few hours ago

[inland elm]

https://x.com/singin_swiftie/status/1821609393412317231?t=S--dJjfXxrxdR5ul2G7cGQ&s=19

Holy shit

✨🧡🤍💗 (@singin_swiftie) on X

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Twitter · Aug 8, 2024, 6:08 PM

[gloomy steeple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/POE47z1VbNA?si=tohfB5Mvu95uosJm uhm

u sure cuz I watched a livestream at night and I saw nothing

[topaz kernel]

they say it was fake

it wasn't her

[gloomy steeple]

it would have been so cool but yea

I wouldn't expect that she is on tiktok right now

since she is devasted I guess and also needs to work on future planning

for sure she's working hard rn

sure

"relaxing"

[final light]

Not the edited picture 💀

[royal oasis]

i fucking hate this kinda videos

[final light]

They’re so annoying

[pastel scarab]

I'd get mad at losing getaway Car but they deserve it (they're playing it at that thing idk what to call it other than group therapy)

[crisp yarrow]

The longer Taylor hasn’t said anything the more I feel it will be cancelled

[pastel scarab]

What? The London shows?

I think they're still going ahead

[atomic axle]

Oh I think the UK shows will continue

[tepid juniper]

The London shows will definitely go ahead

[crisp yarrow]

I’m anxious now that they won’t as I’ve see so many people say it will get cancelled

[raw delta]

So to dispel how it comes across online. The official UK Terror Threat Status is ‘Substantial’ which means an attack is Likely. HOWEVER it has been Substantial Level for like 4 years now purely because of how ridiculous the world is. I work emergency crew for big events, and even with everything going on from EDL riots to the risk of Vienna copycats, UK shows are some of the least likely to be targeted/if anything does happen in London, it’ll be unlikely to do significant damage due to how much police and medical provision is deployed for these scale concerts. The risk assessments take months by themselves and theres plenty of plans for different risk levels. London is unlikely to get cancelled in my opinion, and you’ll be plenty safe

Abroad, I don’t know their emergency provisions so much, but in this era of international intelligence agency cooperation against terror, I highly doubt there’ll be further cancellations or attacks, as also have to consider that even the twats will know every show now is likely to have 1.5x more security than planned previously

[royal oasis]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZIJnoTMPK/

[gloomy steeple]

Daily news from the main Austrian news tv channel:

The 18 year old who was arrested yesterday evening was in contact with another terrorist who planned an attack on the main Christian church in Vienna last year.

The lawyer of the 17 year old who has been arrested states everything is bs and the client didn’t even know how that material got on his phone.

A psychologist stated that the target has been no coincidence, since the values the IS stands for are the opposite ones Taylor stands for.

Disgusting but it’s good that the most ppl possible protest against it.

[next coral]

Wtf that is so messed up

[gloomy steeple]

https://www.diepresse.com/18743485/paris-moskau-manchester-diese-konzerte-waren-ziel-von-terroristen

German Article of past attacks on pop concerts which the IS succeeded in

[next coral]

Omg

@gloomy steeple hru tho

[radiant timber]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGevgtxCW/

[radiant timber]

Okay this made me cry

[crisp yarrow]

This is shocking

[foggy parcel]

What is

[coral osprey]

Tbh I doubt they will cancel the london shows but who knows how Taylor feels….

[wraith tangle]

Why is this shocking

[stoic kayak]

hey

if anyone was around Corneliusgasse today, and witnessed a proposal, and filmed it, please let the guy know

https://x.com/ileamare/status/1821974475635880216

lea (@ileamare) on X

came back with a proposal to Corneliusgasse (during love story (with some additional trickery behind the scenes))

(((if you are in Vienna and have a video of this moment please share it)))

Twitter · Aug 9, 2024, 6:19 PM

[unique fractal]

there was also one yesterday at Corneliusgasse. Was so adorable to witness
Glad they didnt let the cancellation foil their plans

[crisp yarrow]

The comment that says the history of man live at the eras tour

[foggy parcel]

Yeah what about it

She’ll probably sing it it was a tiktok hit and it’s on the eras preshow playlist

[crisp yarrow]

Well, it’s almost like they’re saying the attack was gonna wipe out mankind so history of man live from the eras tour

[foggy parcel]

💀????????

you have horribly misread that

her most popular song currently is history of man so somebody just said they’re excited to hear the live version of it

[crisp yarrow]

I don’t listen to Maisie Peters so I wouldn’t really know

[wraith tangle]

Yeah but what's shocking about it?

[tepid juniper]

OH

history of man is a maisie peters song

[crisp yarrow]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGevpGuYS/

[muted hare]

Vienna casually hosting their own eras tour is crazy

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGevpVmuA/

[kindred abyss]

please spend your energy mad at something else

[open oak]

True

[thorny lichen]

sorry but the crowded singing was just dumb

[crisp yarrow]

They were in safe hands they were crowded by the police

[thorny lichen]

but what if one of the people there was the terrorists

[night gazelle]

literally my thoughts

you never know

[crisp yarrow]

Police said they’ve caught them all

[proper sun]

They've all been arrested

[night gazelle]

yea I saw that

but still I wouldn't go myself

[thorny lichen]

you never know.

and you never know if a random man will decide to do something

[proper sun]

There's no threat

[crisp yarrow]

I’m convinced the London shows will get cancelled for some reason

[night gazelle]

true there are some crazy ppl who are just like "ye today I feel like killing innocent girls"

[night gazelle]

I saw there are riots in London

[proper sun]

They will if the riots carry on

[night gazelle]

and Im a bit worried about those shows

[proper sun]

That could happen anywhere though but it doesn't mean its likely

[verbal raft]

the riots aren’t rlly in the area where wembely stadium is

[night gazelle]

ik

[night gazelle]

I think there are going to be a lot of police

and secret agents

[verbal raft]

yeah, london is usually very prepared for things like this

[proper sun]

I'm well aware. But riots are to draw attention. The eras tour is a huge event.

[night gazelle]

I guess it was like one time "event" in Vienna cuz those guys were from Austria

[proper sun]

Also you spelled Wembley wrong

[verbal raft]

the riots are overpowered by counter-protests atm, so i doubt they will go on much longer

[verbal raft]

🤷‍♀️

[proper sun]

They are most definitely not overpowered

[verbal raft]

in a lot of areas they are

[night gazelle]

they'll try to do sth I guess like eras is very big event 80k+ people each night INSIDE stadium

5 nights and people outside they must do something

[proper sun]

Correlation doesn't always mean cause

[night gazelle]

aren't riots normal thing in London or it's just Paris?

[proper sun]

No??

[verbal raft]

no most certainly not riots, protests are common tho

[proper sun]

And these are across the whole UK anyway

[night gazelle]

oh okay, just asking cuz I don't follow actual events

around the world

[wraith tangle]

Ok stay home then and let others decide how to live their lives

[thorny lichen]

it’s a lot of money she won’t cancel the London shows

[night gazelle]

true

[proper sun]

I mean these riots are comparable to the 2011 riots with severity

[night gazelle]

like 100 milions usd

[thorny lichen]

maybe just do a tougher security

[night gazelle]

what?

[proper sun]

Not everything is about money if people's lives are on danger they'll get cancelled.

[wraith tangle]

Telling people they shouldn't gather and singing songs together is dumb

[thorny lichen]

I don’t think she will cancel the London shows

[proper sun]

Bro?

[wraith tangle]

Am I what?

[dusk osprey]

bro

we're not doing that

[thorny lichen]

maybe in a place where they may still be terrorists on the loose maybe it’s better not to gather?

[wraith tangle]

#1270865475869478934 message

[proper sun]

Again. If lives are in danger they will be cancelled.

[thorny lichen]

I can share my opinion.

[verbal raft]

there’s no justification for slurs

[thorny lichen]

And I know like people got hurt but it GOT CANCELLED FOR THEIR SAFETY and you don’t just do a huge crowding

[dusk osprey]

i mean i don't really see the big deal with people gathering in the wake of a horrible thing to try and make something good out of it

like making the best of a bad situation

i'm sure there was plenty of officials/police near that crowd like i don't really understand people being upset over that

[rain pagoda]

[thorny lichen]

the terrorists were searching for a huge crowd

[proper sun]

Yeah and there's police almost over there

[dusk osprey]

bestie respectfully

a crowd of like

500 or so people tops is not the crowd they are looking for

[verbal raft]

i also saw a church that was playing taylor swift music for ppl to pop in and listen to, if it were unsafe the police would’ve got rid of the crowd

[proper sun]

They've all been arrested anyway

[thorny lichen]

bye that wasn’t 500

[dusk osprey]

they were trying to go for the stadium cause it was expected to be 65k people

[rain pagoda]

I tought there where a few still at large

[dusk osprey]

it's just a number i'm throwing out there?

[verbal raft]

not really no

[dusk osprey]

idk what the actual number out there was but it's not like it was 65k?

[thorny lichen]

it wasn’t

[proper sun]

It was still nowhere near a full stadium

[thorny lichen]

yeah but what if one of the people in that crowd was one of the terrorists???

[dusk osprey]

ok but

[kindred abyss]

sigh

[dusk osprey]

it feels weird to have that kind of mindset

[rain pagoda]

There where police around

[proper sun]

They've been arrested oml

[verbal raft]

the police would’ve stopped it if there was any danger

[kindred abyss]

police literally secured the area

[thorny lichen]

I live in a country where that mindset is the right one //

[rain pagoda]

If they tried something they would be arrested

[dusk osprey]

like nothing happened and the people that plotted the stuff were arrested

and again

i'm sure vienna rn is extra locked down

with security and stuff

[thorny lichen]

u never know if they all got arrested

[dusk osprey]

cause of this stuff

[proper sun]

And your country is not Austria so!

[wraith tangle]

Where does it end then? Live your life in fear?

Let people enjoy themselves how they are comfortable doing and within what is being allowed by local authorities

[thorny lichen]

and that terror organization is active in my country

[verbal raft]

and you also went to a show that wasn’t cancelled so i don’t think you’d understand exactly what these ppl are going through

[dusk osprey]

ok

let's maybe just

move on

[kindred abyss]

calling people dumb for simply trying to have fun after a horrific event is so toxic

[rain pagoda]

[thorny lichen]

yeah but yk

[kindred abyss]

anyway, i saw an art gallery was letting ticket holders in for free, alongside some stores

[rain pagoda]

I heard about that

[verbal raft]

yess i saw that too!!

[wraith tangle]

Lots of free stuff in vienna

[kindred abyss]

it's so nice how vienna has come together

[thorny lichen]

having fun in a time when the investigation is still going

[kindred abyss]

you were asked to move on!

[proper sun]

Bro

[kindred abyss]

talk about this somewhere else, we don't want that energy here

[thorny lichen]

I would give personal examples but I’ll just move on

[proper sun]

The investigation finished I'm pretty sure

[verbal raft]

ok would u rather they be sobbing endlessly

[thorny lichen]

it’s not just checked in cnn

[wraith tangle]

One year waiting what a gut punch

[thorny lichen]

no but maybe don’t do crowdings!

[wraith tangle]

We will see what if anything taylor can do

[verbal raft]

that’s no way to live

[proper sun]

K well there's police EVERYWHERE

[kindred abyss]

you were asked to stop talking abt it like

[dusk osprey]

again

[proper sun]

13 months 😭

[thorny lichen]

I don’t understand you don’t want me to talk about the reality?

[dusk osprey]

there's a difference between crowding at a stadium for the show vs just crowding on a dif street in vienna

[wraith tangle]

Mods said to move on

[dusk osprey]

bro you didn't even let me finish typing before replying

jesus christ

😭

[thorny lichen]

Vienna isn’t the safest city rn isn’t it

[proper sun]

Hi Mikeey

[verbal raft]

after all it was their own choice to go, no one was forcing anyone to go

[dusk osprey]

i'd argue vienna rn is pretty safe considering there is probably a whole bunch of extra security in the wake of it all

[proper sun]

Vienna is very safe actually!

[dusk osprey]

hell you could argue vienna is safe considering they stopped the plot from happening

[kindred abyss]

you can't just shut down a city because of a foiled terrorist attack? it's unrealistic and also austria is well secured right now

[dusk osprey]

again this just feels like we're going round in circles

[thorny lichen]

you’re just trying to silence opinions you don’t like

[kindred abyss]

💀

[dusk osprey]

???????????

what?

[rain pagoda]

Exactly

[thorny lichen]

anyways

[kindred abyss]

get outta here😭

[rain pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/johny-gif-27696534

[proper sun]

Can you actually just grow up and move on.

[dusk osprey]

i'm not silencing your opinion? i'm just stating how your opinion is a bit misconstrued?

[kindred abyss]

you're calling swifties who are gathering to have fun after going through something traumatising stupid, grow up.

[dusk osprey]

like am i calling you names?

no

[verbal raft]

i think you seem like someone who needs to listen to some happy music for once in your life ❤️

[dusk osprey]

i'm just talking?

[wraith tangle]

While nothing compares to actual concert the eras tour movie shows a lot

[proper sun]

Lmao?

[thorny lichen]

Mikeey can I give a personal thing that’s very similar that happened to me

[proper sun]

Or maybe we could move on!

[thorny lichen]

or maybe I could tell what happened to me so yall understand what place am I coming from

like mentally

[kindred abyss]

it's not up to mikey whether or not you choose to share something personal

[thorny lichen]

okay so

[wraith tangle]

Still not an excuse for what you said

[verbal raft]

unfortunately or fortunately, the world WILL keep turning no matter what happens, so maybe us as humans should keep living

[rain pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-yes-precisely-absolutely-totally-gif-17449520

[kindred abyss]

mr schu jumpscare

[proper sun]

@thorny lichen if ur gonna send it put a spoiler if it could be triggering btw

[thorny lichen]

||it was like some months ago I was supposed to go in Israel to the Bruno Mars show and I waited to long for that show and in the morning of that there was a terror attack and ofc all the shows were cancelled and then we didn’t do crowdings because the police wouldn’t help if someone in the crowd had a gun or a knife and would just stub someone the police would kill that person maybe when it’s too late and I understand where it comes from but from me it was just like that for the personal safety prevent from doing big crowdings||

a little bit yapping

[verbal raft]

but there was police present today who would help in that case

[thorny lichen]

I saw the crowd they were all one in a big crowd there weren’t any police officers between them

[proper sun]

We're talking about Austria not Israel though

[thorny lichen]

maybe in the outline

[wraith tangle]

Thanks for sharing

[thorny lichen]

that terror ISIS also in Israel

[rain pagoda]

Yeah each country is different in how they police and stuff

[wraith tangle]

People can still do what they're comfortable doing within guidelines and safety protocols by local authorities

[thorny lichen]

And only 3 were arrested and it’s for sure bigger than only 3 and it terrifies me

[rain pagoda]

[wraith tangle]

They shouldn't be called dumb for gathering and they shouldn't be called dumb for staying in

[rain pagoda]

[thorny lichen]

didn’t call anyone dumb

[proper sun]

Vienna is more policed than Israel km pretty sure

[thorny lichen]

are u sure

[kindred abyss]

yes..

[proper sun]

And just because you experienced one thing doesn't mean you can tell people not to go out

[rain pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/moira-rose-schitts-creek-exactly-my-point-duh-gif-16643347237279393973

[proper sun]

Yeah pretty sure

[kindred abyss]

surprisingly (not) austria is safer than israel

[wraith tangle]

I never said you did?

[thorny lichen]

I just don’t know how the government accepted to do it because it’s just unsafe until the investigation is over

[thorny lichen]

well never said Israel is safer than Austria

[rain pagoda]

Yeah and israel is at war right now so that dont help them much right now with saftey

[wraith tangle]

Exactly you don't know

[wraith tangle]

Because you and we don't know all the details of the investigation

[rain pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-wtf-is-going-on-uhm-wtf-confused-gif-22989882

[thorny lichen]

I’m just sure it’s more than 3

[kindred abyss]

me if you even care

[dusk osprey]

there's some major differences though

[proper sun]

Retweet

[kindred abyss]

every source and even police statement says 3

[proper sun]

Hi Mikeey

[thorny lichen]

3 yet nobody said it’s all

[dusk osprey]

with bruno mars that was in israel and yes he was forced to cancel/evacuate however that was with the start of the ongoing conflicts we are still witnessing today

which is a much much different situation vs vienna

[dusk osprey]

helo

[thorny lichen]

I just want the max safety for everyone

[wraith tangle]

[crisp yarrow]

So do us think London will go ahead

[rain pagoda]

Yes

[wraith tangle]

A noble endeavor good luck

[thorny lichen]

yeah for sure

[dusk osprey]

so while i feel for you and i'm sorry you went through all of that it doesn't feel fair to compare the two situations as equal when one was canceled due to basically war/conflict and one was canceled due to one plot in a quiet country

[thorny lichen]

but like if one of the terrorists would come to that circle just what would happen

[dusk osprey]

it feels weird to speculate like that?

[wraith tangle]

What if they didnt

[proper sun]

Austria's crime level is so low too

[wraith tangle]

What if everyone enjoyed themselves

[thorny lichen]

I like Austria it’s pretty

but I understand it’s different country’s and different policies in Israel it would never be accepted to do that

[wraith tangle]

Keep going you're almost there

[thorny lichen]

because I went through so much of those and I understand more about them

[proper sun]

Just the first part would've worked

[kindred abyss]

everytime i look at this chat i feel my eyes burning

[wraith tangle]

Different gif please

That one creeps me out

[thorny lichen]

yall act like she should now reschedule the shows in Vienna

[kindred abyss]

who's y'all like

[proper sun]

Who said that lmao

[thorny lichen]

because yall say that’s it’s a safe place now

[kindred abyss]

no one said she should do that? are you just trying to start arguments or what

[proper sun]

The tickets got refunded

[dusk osprey]

no one said that?

[wraith tangle]

If it's safe and she is able to then yeah I think that would be great. Or add new dates there

[thorny lichen]

no but like if yall safe Vienna is safe why not reschedule the shows

[kindred abyss]

if ur gonna be in here just to argue just get out lmfao it's unneeded

[proper sun]

It's always been safe

[dusk osprey]

that's not what we're saying????

[wraith tangle]

Blud come on now

[thorny lichen]

look at what they replied …

[dusk osprey]

there's a major difference in a stadium show vs just people gathering together and trading bracelets/singing along?

[kindred abyss]

who???

[thorny lichen]

what’s the difference

same crowding

[proper sun]

About 70k+ people

[wraith tangle]

Bro really asked what the difference is

[kindred abyss]

it's literally not the same stop trying to argue

[dusk osprey]

isis wasn't targeting taylor swift isis was just trying to target a huge crowd of people

[thorny lichen]

that’s what I’m trying to say

[dusk osprey]

that was not a huge crowd of people

huge is a stadium concert

which is what was planned

over 65k

[thorny lichen]

And someone here said the whole net got arrested so yall should decide what’s yall opinion

[dusk osprey]

one of the people arrested was even hired by the stadium which could've lead to something horrific happening

but it didn't

do you not understand what we're saying 😭

[kindred abyss]

what are you SAYING

[thorny lichen]

I’m such an overthinker I shouldn’t enter that

[dusk osprey]

like okay

let's break this down

why were the shows canceled? due to a terrorist plot to cause mayhem/horrific events at these shows
who were the first two people arrested? a 17 year old and a 19 year old
one of which got a job at the stadium which could've lead to a huge huge HUGE tragic event

[sullen hull]

this thread is so aggy lmao

[dusk osprey]

truthfully speaking i think the shows would've happened if they didn't have the situation of one of the people arrested having been hired as a stadium worker

[thorny lichen]

I wonder what he would do with the fact that he got hired to the stadium

[kindred abyss]

it's full of ragebait i feel

[dusk osprey]

but because of that person it lead to "well we can't really be sure the stadium is safe cause he might've had access to the stadium and who knows planted something"

hence why the shows did not happen

and got canceled

[sullen hull]

i can’t tell if some of these people are being deliberately dense or are genuinely children

[kindred abyss]

mix of both

[thorny lichen]

Don’t call me kid

[sullen hull]

i didn’t.

[kindred abyss]

they said SOME OF THESE PEOPLE

[proper sun]

Don't call me baby

[dusk osprey]

like i'm not trying to be rude or anything i'm just trying to help you understand how stadium crowd ≠ crowd trading bracelets and singing

also hey let's not attack others pls

[proper sun]

Pretty sure they were making a Taylor reference

[kindred abyss]

they changed it from "a kid" to just kid

[dusk osprey]

this is a sensitive thread and we do ask discussion to be civil and respectful

[proper sun]

Ok?

[thorny lichen]

what if I was thinking I was thinking like I’m that terrorist like I’d say oh fuck the concert is cancelled maybe I’ll just kill whoever I can you know

[dusk osprey]

but the persons in question were already arrested

[thorny lichen]

that’s not all of them

[dusk osprey]

sure but the main people already were

[rain pagoda]

Well the major threat is taken care of

[dusk osprey]

the ones that had the weapons and stuff to make bombs already were

[rain pagoda]

Yeah weapons are secure

Any others related to this cant do much

[dusk osprey]

and truth be told if it was super unsafe still local officials would've broke things up or made an anouncement that it is unsafe to be out there and to stay sheltered

[proper sun]

There were only 3 ppl plotting the attack I'm pretty sure so uhm

[dusk osprey]

but such a thing did not happen hence why we had the moments we had

[rain pagoda]

Exactly

[thorny lichen]

I’m sorry but like how messed up can ur life be to join isis at 17 years old

[kindred abyss]

you should read up on radicalisation, it's an interesting topic

[thorny lichen]

radicalization?

[kindred abyss]

its not that their lives are messed up, its that the internet and online spaces radicalise them and influence them to join these groups

[thorny lichen]

How can u influence someone to kill innocent kids like

[kindred abyss]

.

[wraith tangle]

This

[thorny lichen]

world is just messed up

[rain pagoda]

....

[kindred abyss]

im wasting my energy in here

[rain pagoda]

Yep

[thorny lichen]

I’m not trying to fight I’m trying to make a conversation

[sullen hull]

beliefs are really easily shaped by the culture around you

the media, politicians, religious figures etc

[proper sun]

Especially when you're a teenager

[sullen hull]

if you’re told you’re doing it for the greater good your whole life it’s easy to believe it

[thorny lichen]

idk what culture you need to live in to contact Isis that’s messed up

[proper sun]

Internet

[sullen hull]

they are likely groomed

[kindred abyss]

please read up on this

[sullen hull]

it’s not like you can sign up to their mailing list lmao

[kindred abyss]

it'll answer all your questions !

[rain pagoda]

Exactly lol

[thorny lichen]

It’s just interesting how it works

how do you a 17 year old from a very safe and educational country do that

[kindred abyss]

because you have unrestricted internet access at a young age and are exposed to online forums full of radicalisation

they are groomed by members of organisations, told they will find everything they want in life if they join them, they put horrible mindsets into young boys, and sometimes girls, minds

it gets to the stage where these young people are radicalised so much that they will die for the cause of the organisation

[thorny lichen]

probably Twitter or smth

[kindred abyss]

used to be yes, now it's other apps and websites

facebook is bad for it, as well as reddit and 4chan

apps like telegram too

[dusk osprey]

probs stuff like whatsapp too

[sullen hull]

telegram feels like it was tailor made for weird stuff

[kindred abyss]

yeah whatsapp, anything that can be encrypted

[sullen hull]

like the riots were all getting organised on there weren’t they?

[kindred abyss]

we use it for our dodgy fire stick lmfao 😭

[thorny lichen]

I just scroll through Twitter and I see how much mind cleanse is going on there

[kindred abyss]

that and also code words on facebook

[wraith tangle]

Mind cleanse?

[rain pagoda]

?

[proper sun]

Pretty sure thats fake news

[sullen hull]

explains why so many of them were boomers

[thorny lichen]

it official not fake

[kindred abyss]

i read it on a news source somewhere im sure so i think its almost credible

however only one attacker was hired, not all

[thorny lichen]

also discord is a platform for that

[thorny lichen]

maybe that attacker was trying to cleanse the minds of others

[kindred abyss]

i don't understand what you're talking about

you mean radicalise? like giving them a bad mindset?

[thorny lichen]

yeah

[kindred abyss]

oh no i think he just got hired in order to get access to the stadium

[rain pagoda]

Yeah security uniform and stuff would allow him to go pretty much anywhere in the Stadium

[thorny lichen]

ohhh u talk about that

I’m just happy they got caught

[rain pagoda]

Yeah

[thorny lichen]

I would never would be able to process that if it happened

[rain pagoda]

Me either

[thorny lichen]

my friends were supposed to go to that shows

[rain pagoda]

If Taylor herself got hurt people would Riot

[hazy valve]

None of us would be able to process it

[proper sun]

The livestreams..

[thorny lichen]

Taylor would never come out of this

it took Ariana years to heal

[hazy valve]

Pretty sure it would be worse than riot tbh. Considering she has a big strong fan base with big dedication.

[thorny lichen]

I saw that they said in the news that the Israeli mossad told Austria about the Isis attack

[rain pagoda]

We avoided a major incident that could of had the aftermath go on for months

[proper sun]

In the Israel news you mean?

[thorny lichen]

Nope

[rain pagoda]

Yeah if the suspects where not caught Swifties be hunting them down

[hazy valve]

Like said before, this should SERVE as a WAKE UP CALL to enforce security in, out and around stadiums and also do background checks on ppl who are being hired.

[thorny lichen]

Mossad would always know stuff like that

[rain pagoda]

[thorny lichen]

the Manchester terror attack could’ve been prevented 💔

[proper sun]

💀

[rain pagoda]

Yeah 9-11 was the WAKE UP CALL for Airport security hopefully this will be the WAKE UP CALL for Stadiums security

[dusk osprey]

i mean the thing is stadium security from my understanding is just different in EU/UK compared to the US like we have bomb sniffing dogs and police galore etc for shows here in the US

[hazy valve]

It happened and now it almost happened again with Vienna. Idk how many more wake up calls are needed to just do smth as simple as reinforce security everywhere out in and around stadiums and do background checks on ppl who are being hired. Ffs thousands and thousands of lives are being put at risk each time smth like this happens.

[sullen hull]

we had a bored looking woman waving a metal detector vaguely near us

[rain pagoda]

And then are officers are armed cause Merica 🦅

[dusk osprey]

that too

[proper sun]

Wembley security is actually really good

[dusk osprey]

well yeah it's london

[hazy valve]

Even then tho my friend, it shouldn’t cost anything to just send more officers/security to big events like this to secure the area around the stadium and inside the stadium. Especially when there’s thousands and thousands of ppl attending yk

[dusk osprey]

oh i agree hundred percent

i saw suggested somewhere that since the olympics finish sunday that some of the anti-terrorism peeps over there can maybe come over and help with london for wembley

[proper sun]

I mean yeah but UK security in general is better than Americans think, especially after Manchester

[thorny lichen]

The American security is very good

[night gazelle]

can't relate 💀 they didn't check our bags or IDs

people snuck food just like that

[rain pagoda]

Merica 🦅 We got bomb sniffing dogs and police everywhere

[rain pagoda]

And all are officers are armed

[wraith tangle]

I snuck red bull into era concert

[thorny lichen]

Isis isn’t in America

It’s based in Europe

[wraith tangle]

But didn't drink because front stage security would have easily seen lmao

[proper sun]

Saying that like its a good thing 😭

[rain pagoda]

It allows us to take care of any amred threats quickly if it gets out of hand

[night gazelle]

that's why polish people don't want immigrants

[thorny lichen]

We need more detailes about who are the arrested men

[proper sun]

Oh.

[night gazelle]

its not like we throw everyone to same bag but still

[proper sun]

One of them's 17 so um

[rain pagoda]

Yeah it's kind of a must for are officers

[thorny lichen]

Why does the immigrants have to bring problems with them like u have a chance for a new life use it

[night gazelle]

I saw sth they were from Austria but their roots are from balkans i guess?

[rain pagoda]

Cause that's just the way it is in the US

[thorny lichen]

and I’m not talking about them all

[proper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/disbelief-blink-blinking-eyes-huh-what-gif-15902035875240244797

[rain pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-wait-what-gif-9000717621307637538

[proper sun]

Thats crazy

[rain pagoda]

Yeah guns tend to be involed a lot with crime

[thorny lichen]

okay let’s move on

[night gazelle]

true, they'll call people dumb for being worried anyway

[proper sun]

Or we could talk about how you just implied all immigrants bring problems

[night gazelle]

not all Xd nobody said that

[thorny lichen]

I said not all

[proper sun]

Ok lil bro

[thorny lichen]

I’m a girl

[proper sun]

I know

Lil bro

[thorny lichen]

So why does a 17 year old gets hired to work at a TS TOUIR

[night gazelle]

that one was 19 i think

[proper sun]

Are you thick.

[thorny lichen]

nope

[night gazelle]

they hired him to work at the venue

[thorny lichen]

news said the 17 year old one got the job

[night gazelle]

really? havent seen that

[proper sun]

You can work from 16 and he was in a company that was hired for the eras tour he wasn't directly hired

[night gazelle]

I mean in europe it is possible to get a job at 16

[thorny lichen]

Guys I think I should stop thinking about this

[proper sun]

Is it not in America..?

[thorny lichen]

The more I think about it the more anxiety I get

[sullen hull]

i think that’s probably a good idea, take a break and go do something fun

[night gazelle]

girl how can I know

[thorny lichen]

fun like sleeping

[sullen hull]

exactly 😭

[odd orbit]

If any of you are responsible for this post, you should be deeply ashamed

[past glacier]

yoswizzle

yoswizzle's location is Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel. 🌍
It is currently 3:04 AM there (Israel Standard Time). 🕰️

[night gazelle]

me on summer holiday

[proper sun]

Ew Ariana didn't know

[odd orbit]

That didn't matter to toxic fans

They're just using this to hate

[sullen hull]

probably best to just report or ignore those posts. they’re doing it to get a reaction.

[proper sun]

Yeah

[past glacier]

._r0se_.

.r0se.'s location is Wales, UK. 🌍
It is currently 1:06 AM there (Greenwich Mean Time). 🕰️

[sullen hull]

ooo welsh! fun

[dusk osprey]

we shouldn't give comments like that the attention they're looking for

[odd orbit]

Oh well

[proper sun]

I mean I'm not Welsh i just live by the border so like

[sullen hull]

ohhh english?

[proper sun]

Yeah

[sullen hull]

like there’s another border beth you moron 😭

[hazy valve]

Can’t even use the right word for lives. Can’t take rage bait serious, and let’s not give them attention at all.

[odd orbit]

I finally slept well after weeks

[proper sun]

Ok I'm gonna go to sleep gn

[odd orbit]

Good night

I just woke up btw

[past glacier]

samlovechickennuggies

samlovechickennuggies's location is Johor Bahru, Johor, Malaysia. 🌍
It is currently 8:08 AM there (Malaysia Time). 🕰️

[proper sun]

Oh!

[tepid juniper]

Yeah but there’s chances of that happening literally anywhere. The police were present but also confirmed everyone involved in the incident was caught

[night gazelle]

my mum still wouldnt let me go 💀 even if I was 30

[stoic kayak]

Jesus fucking christ I really shouldn't have read through all of that

But I did and I feel like I'm so much dumber than I was before, that's how stupid the conversation was

[wraith tangle]

💀

[stoic kayak]

High key that person has an agenda / prejudice against Islamic countries and people who worship Islam but that's a conversation for another place and another time

[wraith tangle]

Hey mods said to move on from that convo

[stoic kayak]

Ya you're right

[knotty root]

random people telling others to not gather after something traumatic is insane. ive said this a million times but love and joy is always stronger than terror

if you're the police or the government & you know something then that makes sense, but just randomly saying "that's dangerous!" over and over is just trying to kill people's joy

[rich adder]

literally what if nobody knew and we saw it all on live

[wraith tangle]

Yes that would be awful

On live and then probably a lot of people filming in the concert too

[gloomy steeple]

The 2nd terrorist was not 19

[gloomy steeple]

Not good still, hru?

[next coral]

Good

[gloomy steeple]

that is nice to hear

The picture of the terrorist was haunting me all night

[hazy valve]

It’s out?

[next coral]

omg

[open oak]

this is just crazy

[crisp yarrow]

Who thinks that London officials have contacted Taylor’s team before confirming

[gloomy steeple]

Since there is no statement I am not sure

[gloomy steeple]

yea, a future terrorist

[night gazelle]

How old was he then

[tepid juniper]

Well yes obviously

Theyre probably in constant communication with all stadiums prior to shows regardless of this

[crisp yarrow]

That’s what I thought so i think London should go ahead as Taylor hates to let her fans down

[tepid juniper]

It is going ahead

[knotty root]

if anyone was gonna cancel it it would be the government and the government will not because it’ll ruin their economy. all that refunding would be super expensive on them

they’d only cancel it if they absolutely had to. or if taylor cancelled it herself

[crisp yarrow]

I doubt Taylor will cancel it because she won’t want to let her fans down

Every show that has been cancelled of Taylors has been a government decision not

Hers

[tepid juniper]

Also remember they wouldn’t cancel it last minute, they’d want to give people as much notice as possible

And it’s in 5 days, people will be starting to travel to London etc

[heady sky]

I'm confident Taylor will post a goodbye Vienna post

Or she might not. It wouldn't make sense

[night gazelle]

More likely she’s going to say something about it in London

That she’s sorry and sth like that

[crisp yarrow]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7EJBDYsYB6/?igsh=MTNpNzBqbDR1dDh6dA==

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😂😂💜

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[sullen hull]

yeah i can see her doing a subtle speech about it at the surprise songs - like when she talked about negative people before the thank you aimee x mean mashup in london

[thorny lichen]

only the young please

[knotty root]

i have grown mad patience being on twitter, i don’t even respond i just move on but a year ago i would’ve been raging

the blacking out isn’t that good but it’s good enough

[orchid birch]

Or COVID (lover fest)

[crisp yarrow]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9AtN66v1TB/?igsh=MWVjdnFmc2MzNTl6Zw==

_swiftie13_forever

12,623 days ago Taylor was born and 6,464 days ago Taylor released her first album. Today Taylor has released 11 original studio albums, 4 re-recorded albums, and 4 live albums. She has set countless records throughout her career and is still going. Taylor has made a huge impact for young girls entering the music industry.

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[crisp yarrow]

Yes but that was still the government because they said no concerts for the guideline s

[orchid birch]

True. I wonder if covid didn't happen what that stage and tour would look like. But if covid didn't happen then we wouldn't have gotten folklore and evermore.

[crisp yarrow]

Apparently guys peoples seats are getting moved in Wembley to allow more space for security

[tepid juniper]

It’s not for security, TM confirmed it’s because their seats wouldve been blocked by production

[topaz kernel]

production???

they fliming the shows?

[ionic schooner]

idk if any of yall know PapaFlows on tt, but he is Kevin's Dad (backup dancer) and he said, they are all safe and can't say much else.

Also somebody said they saw Sam's mom on a train and she confirmed they are safe and kinda on a lock down somewhere but everybody is safe and at least physically okay

[tepid juniper]

No I mean like the show production blocking the stage e.g VIP tents

[topaz kernel]

oh that lol

[crisp yarrow]

Apparently Taylor has been taken back to the states and is being held in the White House and the military are keeping her and the dancers safe

That’s from the inside as one of my family friends who works for umg and that is what mama Swift told him

[foggy parcel]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

DOESNT THAT MEAN THOSE SEATS ARE NOW FREED UP? AND WILL BE PUT ON SALE AGAIN AS PRODUCTION HOLD WITH RESTRICTED VIEW?

[dusk osprey]

..........so your source is "bro trust me"?

[sand wraith]

This is like

I don't even know tbh it's just a wild claim

[silent cypress]

Wait, IS THAT YOUNGER TAYLOR SWIFT FROM 2004 OR 2005?

[crisp yarrow]

My source is from someone who speaks to Andrea on a weekly basis and gets a Christmas card from Taylor every year

[silent cypress]

Wow ok

No questions asked on that

[carmine cove]

Even as big as Taylor is she wouldn’t be in hiding in the White House lol

[crisp yarrow]

Well Taylor is the biggest performer on the planet right now so they have to keep her safe some how

[carmine cove]

They don’t hide people in the White House afaik

[kindred abyss]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

im laughing 😭

[carmine cove]

I wouldn’t be surprised if she was back in the US for a short period but it’s not like everyone in the word is trying to get her or anything

Your claim is just so unbelievable

[kindred abyss]

shes in the white house guys 🤐

[topaz kernel]

prove it or it didnt happen

[crisp yarrow]

Ok

[topaz kernel]

lmao fr

[kindred abyss]

this is peak misinformation

[topaz kernel]

imagine

[topaz kernel]

yup

[tepid juniper]

That’s definitely NOT true

Andrea would also NOT give away her location to random UMG workers

[kindred abyss]

trust me bro 😎

[topaz kernel]

and i think cuz of the security reasons, they cant say where they are rn

[heady sky]

Can we not spread misinformation please

[topaz kernel]

even to the ppl they know

[kindred abyss]

i feel like this has been a little joke that mysterylibrary has taken literally

[heady sky]

Not even funny.

If you have proof, you have to showcase it

[kindred abyss]

no i mean a joke from someone they know, not from in here

[heady sky]

Well that too. You need to be very self-aware and cautious on where you get the information from

[kindred abyss]

well yes? it's why we are asking them for sources