Southport Incident

[patent nymph]

also for crimes like this is is 14+ most the time to be tried as an adult

[woven condor]

USA it 18+ if i'm not mistaken to try him as a adult

[patent nymph]

he isnt in the usa tho

[sturdy basalt]

yes

[barren sun]

As long as he wont be roaming the streets freely ever tbh

[round willow]

think 18 is an adult but worse crimes means you get judged as an adult

[urban fog]

What’s worse that murder

Nothing

[round willow]

sorry I meant worse crimes like in this case

[woven condor]

I was just saying if anyone was like trying to see how different laws are from the USA to the UK that's all

[patent nymph]

in the uk you are considered an adult at 16 and for murder and a few others you can be tried as an adult at 14

[round willow]

extreme would be a better word

[barren sun]

He could rot in the psych ward or the jail cell for all I care, I just want him isolated in a compound his whole life

[meager tapir]

i would not be mad if an asteroid wanted to destroy earth

[urban fog]

Don’t apologize man it was for hypothetical purposes 😭

[woven condor]

What!?

[round willow]

not sure on this

https://www.gov.uk/age-of-criminal-responsibility

17 is a child technically

[urban fog]

@round willow sorry I wasn’t trying to intimidate you whatsoever

[barren sun]

Since he has 11 charges involving murder I’m sure he will be considered an adult in trial

its a severe case

[round willow]

no ofc not lol 🫶

[meager tapir]

i dont wanna continue this conversation, this might become too controversial

[round willow]

yes agreed

[barren sun]

Did the pm speak?

[jade loom]

Then his name should be said. Old enough to kill, old enough to be named and shamed

[woven condor]

Exactly

[jade loom]

All he said was that he's horrified basically, that it's terrible what happened ect

That was yesterday, though

[barren sun]

I see

Ive heard that he was coming back today though

In this thread

[urban fog]

Whos the pm there 😭 didnt sunak change after the elections

I have no knowledge of global events

[jade loom]

Kier Starmer is pm

Labour party

[urban fog]

Oh alright

[patent nymph]

he has made a statement saying this isnt a case of politics and he will do what he can to help the families heal,

[urban fog]

Hopefully he keeps his word and help those who’re affected

[proper dome]

Yeah people are kinda making it political

[proper dome]

His name probably will be said

[jade loom]

I'd be so pissed if it wasn't in the end!

If they don't, then they should find out who did the stabbings, like how people found out about poor James Bulger's killers.

[indigo oracle]

They talked about the friendship bracelets, about swapping them, making friends, not feeling alone 🥹

WHICH LITTLE BASTARDS ARE THINKING ITS OK TO PROTEST AT A VIGIL FOR 3 DEAD KIDS

WHO THE FUCK DO THEY THINK THEY ARE

WE ARE HERE FOR THEM NOT WHATEVER YOUR PROTESTING

Apologies for screaming but yeah.

Bang out of order.

[peak trail]

Generally the name gets released. If it's not it'll get leaked

[jade loom]

I hope it gets leaked if they don't release it

[peak trail]

I don't think it matters too much

The name won't actually change anything

[wise yew]

Good

Death penalty is the easy way out

Because he hasn’t been charged, even though the evidence is there since he hasn’t been charged or sentenced it is only a suspicion

[dim path]

Yeah but prison would be a death sentence especially after what he’s done

[ancient obsidian]

This is so heartbreaking I can't

[wise yew]

?

[dim path]

Prisoners aren’t usually friendly to child murderers

[harsh vortex]

hi

this southport incident just makes me feel sick

[wise yew]

Ah I see

yeah I know

[peak trail]

Are prisoners friendly to anyone

[wise yew]

I hope he gets what’s coming to him

[wise yew]

I mean in prison they’re usually extremely violent to any crime to do with children

[dim path]

The perp is still 17

In the laws eyes he is a child

[urban fog]

Yep

[peak trail]

I initially thought this thread would be a good idea but I think it's been reduced to a place to rant about the perpetrator and what he "deserves" as opposed to productive, meaningful and empathetic conversation about the victims and supporting the families. It's gone to shit really

[barren sun]

He will most likely have high security

[wise yew]

I think it’s a shame that it’ll take so long for him to be sentenced

Simply because the poor families will have to live without their children or with immense trauma for months and months without it being properly resolved for them

And then will be asked to testify months later and relive all their trauma again

And it’s a shame because nobody deserves that

[jade loom]

Like I said, he stopped being a "child" as soon as the thought to kill children crossed his mind.

[dim path]

My MP is a minister in the home office

[proper dome]

exactly!!! like yeah that guy is a terrible person, but is he really what we should be focusing on here?

[dim path]

I get you but it’s good to speak about the whole thing in order to give people a better understanding of what has happened

It’s good to know that starmer went to Southport

[peak trail]

It's not good to speak about how to punish the perpetrator. Isn't productive, doesn't encourage understanding, and doesn't help the families

[dim path]

What happens to the person responsible is up to the CPS and the law system

[wise yew]

Cps?

[dim path]

Crown prosecution service

[peak trail]

Yep. Not us.

[wise yew]

I thought u meant child protective services then I was about to say😭😭

This ain’t America

[dim path]

social services will be involved tho

[quiet path]

did anyone speak up about this

Yet

[fleet monolith]

wdym??

[peak trail]

What do you mean by speak up

If you mean taylor? Yes

If you mean kier starmer? Yes

If you mean the British royals? Yes

[quiet path]

yah i meant people in power

I didn't make myself clear thp

Did they say they would make SOMETHING to change this

[peak trail]

Change what

[ancient obsidian]

ermm

[peak trail]

There was a yoga/dance event in Southport. 3 children dead and 8 + 2 adults injured

In a stabbing

[ancient obsidian]

yes its a stabbing

17 year old stabbed these victims

crying and sobbing

i dont want to give out names in media

[barren sun]

^^

[peak trail]

Wdym

[ancient obsidian]

im in the uk

and the boys name is known by alot of ppl in southport

[barren sun]

As in the 17 year old?

[ancient obsidian]

yes

[peak trail]

How do they know that it's him

[ancient obsidian]

idk

[wise yew]

Because people would’ve recognised him

[ancient obsidian]

i havent asked

[peak trail]

Don't namedrop just so you aren't spreading misinformation if it's false

Wait for the police to release an official statement

[ancient obsidian]

im not namedropping bc the ppl arent sure

[peak trail]

Yeah exactly

[ancient obsidian]

and spreading misinfo is illegal

[wise yew]

So the name isn’t known

[peak trail]

The name isn't important at all

[quiet path]

change the sheer number of incidents like this that happen everyday

[wise yew]

Never said it was

[quiet path]

This was the worst one in a bit from what I know

[wise yew]

There is not much u can do about it

[peak trail]

Yeah, but unfortunately there's a lot we don't know

[barren sun]

Theres only so much we can do

[quiet path]

teach self defense, stop and frisk, police incidence on the streets, stricter punishments???

[magic summit]

As this is a 17-year-old, it is (unless authorised by a judge) illegal to distribute their name.

[ancient obsidian]

so i saw a vid talking bout this incident and there were 7 year old boys who said im really happy that they died

they have this famous footballer

i forgot its name

[sweet temple]

Oh wow

[barren sun]

oh god

[peak trail]

Dear god

[ancient obsidian]

in their pfp

[barren sun]

thats a terrible thing to say

Their pfp is completely unrelated no worries

[wise yew]

I don’t think you realise that they simply don’t care, the chance of catching someone with a knife is so slim with a stop and search because they physically cannot stop everyone

[quiet path]

so we got kids to say this out of misogyny and hate towards Taylor swift!!! GOOD FUCKING JOB, INTERNET💀

[ancient obsidian]

yes

..

[wise yew]

so they’ll carry on carrying knives because they don’t think they’ll get caught

[quiet path]

this is just awful

[sweet temple]

Its sad that they are growing up with so much hate in their heart

[ancient obsidian]

and they were making fun of the kids

[quiet path]

awful for the kids, awful for the families, awful for Taylor

Awful for everyone

[barren sun]

This whole situation is awful

[ancient obsidian]

they were saying that it was their fault

just sad

[barren sun]

shouldnt have happened in the first place

[ancient obsidian]

very sad

[ancient obsidian]

fact

[peak trail]

I just hope that they use this event to strive towards bigger changes in the future

But that's always easier said than done

[ancient obsidian]

im never gonna say that im a swiftie out in public

[sweet temple]

Yeah I feel like a lot is always said compared to real actions

[peak trail]

Why

[ancient obsidian]

im afraid of this situation

and very sad

and im in the uk

[wise yew]

nobody knows if it was because it was a Taylor Swift event

[ancient obsidian]

ohh

[wise yew]

u can’t say that was the solid reason

[peak trail]

You think they got stabbed because they were swifties? Because you have no way of being able to determine that

[ancient obsidian]

bruh no

maybe it is idk

[barren sun]

Its sad that people have to feel scared and unsafe at all

[peak trail]

Lost for words at this point

There's only so much you can say about it

[sweet temple]

Yeah

[peak trail]

At some point it just becomes inexplicable

[solar coral]

yes but life sentences here are about 25 years

[magic summit]

You can be given a “whole life order” which is a life sentence without parole

… one example being Lucy Letby who is serving many concurrent whole life orders

[jade loom]

It was posted on Facebook, so that was my first thought. Why the fuck would a 17 year old boy travel from banks to southport randomly and just happened to hear about a dance class aimed at young girls? Definitely planned imo.

[lost cape]

This has to be planned yeah

[jade loom]

It was in such a quiet and small place as well, only one way out. Must have been planned.

[eager mulch]

Wait what happened?

[jade loom]

Three children have died at a mass stabbing attack at Southport (England, just slightly north of Liverpool)

11-13 injured

They were ages 6-9

[peak trail]

I don't think we're in the position to make any comments about means or motive

[jade loom]

It's just an observation and an opinion jesus

[peak trail]

Just because you have opinions doesn't mean you should share them. Such deductions are baseless. Resulting opinions can influence people. Can spread fear unnecessarily. Can spark other, more harmful rumours

I'd say sticking to the facts is the only thing you can really safely do

And the best thing to do is to avoid speaking about the perpetrator and instead show love and support for the families

[mint grove]

no pls stop making it all about taylor swift

[quiet path]

at this point I've just come to realize this world will most likely not change, not during our lifetimes

we'll just continue to unfortunately be very very careful every single time we leave our house

all i can say is, at least always have a pepper spray on you

[jade loom]

Yep, as someone who lives close by and visiting the memorials tomorrow, I'm terrified to leave the house tbh

[jade loom]

Pepperspray is illegal in the UK 😓

[quiet path]

so are knives and nothing happens

[jade loom]

True! 😬

[quiet path]

id rather carry it and protect myself from a knife wielder with an illegal item than die

[quiet path]

if I ever immigrate, as I'm hoping to do, my first concern will be safety and getting a reliable group of friends

one of the poor angels that died lived here on my island in Portugal...

truly saddening to the whole place

[indigo oracle]

Absolutely stupid

Protesting in Southport.

[jade loom]

Idiots wtf

I know, if I was 6 years younger I would have probably been there! It's terrifying to think about

[limpid ember]

Guys has the suspect's identity been confirmed? Some ppl are making really racist remarks that's why I'm asking

[jade loom]

Also happy birthday mate

[jade loom]

His parents were born in Rwanda so that's why people are going off

Yep

Agreed!! Humanity left him as soon as he entered the class

[indigo oracle]

Apparently the kid is from Rwanda.

Not born there I think but his parents are from Rwanda.

Might be fake idk, but I think if (stupid when I say if) he's charged they'll end up releasing his name.

Happy Birthday btw

[jade loom]

Yep! That's what mersyside police said

[indigo oracle]

Oh outside a mosque

[quiet path]

his name will be released cuz itll take more than 1 year to do all of the procedures of getting them to jail

[peak trail]

What about

[jade loom]

Apparently he's almost 18 so his name will hopefully be released soon

[indigo oracle]

Apparently the dickhead who did all this is Rwandian, massive protests outside a mosque

[peak trail]

No he's from fucking cardiff

Well that's what the statement was

From the police

[jade loom]

His parents are Rwandan d

[indigo oracle]

Yeah but his parents are from Rwanda. He was born in Cardiff but his family is Rwandan

[jade loom]

Confirmed

[peak trail]

Oh I see

[jade loom]

Ye

[peak trail]

Shit man that's awful

[quiet path]

Another thing this incident is bringing is massive waves of racism

my dad is proof

💀

[jade loom]

It's just crazy that this happened in such a small peaceful seaside town

So scarily nearby

Ooooo

[quiet path]

it was peaceful?

[woven condor]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-clap-slow-clap-good-job-nice-one-gif-14556567

[limpid ember]

But he's Welsh right? The racists are just milking this so hard

[jade loom]

Yes, filled with families and the elderly. Families go to the beach when it's warm and the plaza because its lovely.

[quiet path]

From the description is my usual ideal vacation place...

[woven condor]

What?

[quiet path]

terrible to see this go down

[woven condor]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-wtf-is-going-on-uhm-wtf-confused-gif-22989882

Ok I need to be caught up

[jade loom]

Yeah, it's just insane that this horrifying thing happened here. It probably wouldn't have been as bad of a shock if it happened in Manchester or even Liverpool city center. But here, literally nobody knows of southport! Mental. (I don't mean to say it wouldn't be as important like but yknow what I mean)

[woven condor]

Someone fill me in please

[quiet path]

and the thing is, WE CANT DO ANYTHING AND THAT MAKES ME SO MADDDD

To prevent other events like this

ughh

[woven condor]

Yeah

[limpid ember]

I feel so bad for the victims and their families. But the racism that's coming with it is just so bad too

[jade loom]

I know 😠

[woven condor]

When the hell did racism become a part of this

?

[quiet path]

because the guy is rwandan

and media misinforms people

[woven condor]

Oooooohhhhhh

[limpid ember]

The suspects skin color will obviously make the racists angry

[quiet path]

My dad thought he was an "Arab terrorist"

see

the misinformation is so bad

[jade loom]

Since the time it was announced

[limpid ember]

That's so bad

[quiet path]

Exactly

[woven condor]

Its stupid

the misinformation need's to end

[quiet path]

this, as a whole, needs to end

[woven condor]

Yeah

[limpid ember]

Im not British would you guys say this Southport is like NYC?

[jade loom]

Nope 😭 complete opposite

[woven condor]

But the trail for the suspect will take a while so it wont fully end till he is convicted

[woven condor]

No place other then NYC is like NYC

NYC is NYC

[jade loom]

It's a small seaside town with families and care homes with beaches and parks. It's a really really pretty and calm place

Until yesterday ig 😓

I live 15 ish mins away

[limpid ember]

Oh

[quiet path]

he had to ruin it all didn't he

[jade loom]

Literally.

[woven condor]

apparently so

[quiet path]

this just shows it could very much happen here on my town

[woven condor]

Yeah it could happen anywhere

[jade loom]

It's scary

[woven condor]

Dosent matter the town or country

[woven condor]

Very

[jade loom]

I'm literally going there to place flowers and maybe if I feel it's okay to friendship bracelets but I'm lowkey kinda frightened.

Tomorrow*

[quiet path]

how could this crime rate be even lowered

[woven condor]

Sadly cause of the thing called the black market

Without that being stopped

Crime rate will be very hard to lower

And that applys for everywhere around the world

[restive cloak]

guys im a little confused on what happened can someone please explain it

[woven condor]

2 Children killed 9 injured in U.K Stabbing attack in southport

At a taylor Swift themed party

[restive cloak]

alr ty

[woven condor]

17 year old suspect was arrested at scene and a knife was seized by police

[restive cloak]

do we know anything about the murderer other than that?

like background, etc.

[woven condor]

I havent really seen anything in a while so all I know is that he's 17 and is in custody

[restive cloak]

ok

[jade loom]

From Cardiff, Rwandan parents, lived in banks and traveled to southport to murder children. He got out the taxi without paying with a knife

[restive cloak]

thanks

[quiet path]

wait he went purposely there

[jade loom]

Yes

[woven condor]

What!?

WHAT THE HELL!

[restive cloak]

that changes a lot then..

[jade loom]

Took a taxi and got out without paying with a knife in his hand.

[quiet path]

I think this very much confirms this was made out of pure hate towards Swifties and Taylor

...

[restive cloak]

ye

[quiet path]

all i can say to you guys is to refrain from saying you're a Swiftie

which is so twisted to think about

[jade loom]

It's scary, he either went there just bc of Taylor OR he knew they'd be kids there and just happened to do that event.

[restive cloak]

this is all so messed up i dont even know what to say

[woven condor]

Yeah

[restive cloak]

a lot of people in my city are anti-swiftie as well and there are so many gangs even in a good neighborhood theres still some sketchy things going on

[woven condor]

With it being kid's and stuff it make's me think of Five Night's At Freddy's if you know what happend in the timeline

[restive cloak]

i mean i guess 😭

[jade loom]

Um.

[limpid ember]

Even if he wanted to attack swifties why children? Seriously why kids?

[jade loom]

That's a little insensitive/nm

[jade loom]

Evil.

[woven condor]

It just reminds me of what happend in the game timeline and leads to this being a reminder with the right motive and stuff like that could happen irl

[jade loom]

Just a little insensitive to compare it to a game :/

[woven condor]

Sorry it's just what my mine went to

[restive cloak]

its not insensitive, its making a just comparison

[woven condor]

Exactly

[quiet path]

If it really was because they were Swifties

it's completely crazy?!??

[jade loom]

Not mad! Just a little .. yknow. Weird

[restive cloak]

i would fear for my life literally

[quiet path]

To think that people would kill other over music taste

[restive cloak]

yeah

[lost cape]

This is weird stop it

These are real people don’t compare it to a video game

[woven condor]

Then Taylor might need to double security

[quiet path]

I think security on the eras is already being rethought right at this moment

[woven condor]

It's just what my mind went to at the time that's all

[restive cloak]

agreed i fear for her safety... we dont need another example of what happened in manchester a couple years ago

[quiet path]

they could start doing metal detection+frisk+bag checking at the eras

she has the means to do that

[woven condor]

Yeah if there's any security for taylor that are on leave or anything right now I think its time to call them back to duty

[quiet path]

To everyone

[woven condor]

Yeah

[jade loom]

Maybe somethings need to be kept to yourself!

[restive cloak]

dont they already do that? whenever i go to any venue that always happens

[quiet path]

oh, in Portugal it was a mess then

[woven condor]

https://tenor.com/view/rogered-gif-10809167

[quiet path]

I only got a half ass metal.detection

No frisk

and a half ass bag checking

[restive cloak]

hm

[woven condor]

So many people security must of gotten over worked

[restive cloak]

thats true

[woven condor]

So that lead to the half A## checks

[woven condor]

Yeah

[quiet path]

I'm actually sad for the people that must feel unsafe to go to the eras now

[woven condor]

Yeah

This is going to have major side effects on stuff such as ticket sales

[restive cloak]

im a littleee scared cuz my show is in like a week and idk how vienna is about swifties

[quiet path]

check for the people around you while there's still light

If there's anyone suspicious move

[woven condor]

Exactly

[restive cloak]

thanks

[quiet path]

I did that

[restive cloak]

although im not on the floor i have actual like seats idk how u say it

[quiet path]

there was an old guy looking low key scary and all shady and then he moved from our side so that's good

🙏

[woven condor]

And if your really scared and this applys in general you could take self defense class

[woven condor]

If it get's that bad

[quiet path]

I'm going to do thatn

[restive cloak]

im too poor for that 😭

[quiet path]

well idk the price of it

but before going out of my place ill definitely take self defense

and work out

[restive cloak]

iknow a couple moves but yk..

[woven condor]

Yeah for safety its a good idea and then you will have the ability to protect others if needed as well

Ugh why dose it have to be so hard to find update's on what's going on in the U.S.A

[jade loom]

I cant believe that police are getting things thrown at them, after all they've done to protect the kids. Fucking cunts.

[woven condor]

Stupid

They need to stop before someone get's arrested for damage to property or something along those lines

[jade loom]

Absolute twats

[woven condor]

That to

I guess you could say they need to stop fucking around before they find out

Find out/Someone gets arrested or hurt

Bruh

Ew British

[obtuse maple]

I just read about the whole situation. Its so sad that young children can’t even attend a dance class without a situation like this unfold. Sending condolences to the families and everyone in Southport ❤️‍🩹🫂 .

[woven condor]

What the hell

Im gen z I no where's close to a "roadmen", cunts and paedophile

Yeah

I understand

[obtuse maple]

Theres a donation that was set up for the families affected to this situation , I’m not sure if anyone has sent the link yet :

1. 🔗 (goal reached) : https://www.justgiving.com/page/swifties-for-southport
2. 🔗 (goal not reached) : https://www.gofundme.com/f/SouthportDanceEmergencyFund

[woven condor]

Yep that is very ture

Yeah im right there with you on that

Why are you even here then?

Gotcha

Alright

I think I just saw something about Riot Police got called

[indigo oracle]

A violent one at that.

[woven condor]

People like I said stop fucking around beofre you find out

Find out/someone get's hurt or arrested

[jade loom]

This is how the twats treat and thank the police after how well they did and the trauma they had to endure?????? Im sick of this

[woven condor]

I am to

Someone tell them

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-you-need-to-calm-down-pool-gif-14924946

[dim path]

Just a question, do you live in Merseyside

[jade loom]

Yes I live 15-20 minutes away. I'm on the outskirts of Southport

Why am i acc scared to live here another man has been spotted and arrested with a knife

[woven condor]

What!?

[jade loom]

Yeah

[woven condor]

WHAT THE HELL!

[jade loom]

Right near the fucking vigil

[woven condor]

What the hell

Is wrong with people

they need to chill the heck out

[proper dome]

Yeah Liverpool and even Merseyside in general has quite a high crime rate unfortunately

[dim path]

There was a shooting at the house opposite this time last year

And 2 years ago our car got broken into

Twice

[jade loom]

This is the first time in my entire life I've been scared to live in Southport area. I'm genuinely really scared

[ancient obsidian]

That's what is terrible

That's the easy way out icl

Would rather them spend their life in prison

[peak trail]

Again why are we talking about severity of punishment

[quiet path]

oh my fucking god the news don't stop talking about Taylor swift Taylor swift Taylor swift TALK ABOUT HOW KIDS DIED

[woven condor]

This topic sadly will be close to impossible to avoid

[jade loom]

Let people talk about what they want omfg

[quiet path]

TALK ABOUT THE VICTIMS, REMEMBER THEM

[woven condor]

EXACTLY

[peak trail]

It's obviously such a silly topic to talk about but no people don't listen do they, they just want to be vengeful

[woven condor]

Dose the news not like Taylor or something

Like what the hell

[peak trail]

Show love and support. Push for real systematic change. Going on about what the guy "deserves" helps NOBODY

[jade loom]

It's just a conversation topic, 1/200 people here even live nearby. Even though I do I'm scared so I'm obviously not gonna do anything. It's just a "if I could" thing. Stfu and stop being sensitive ffs

[woven condor]

Show love and support. Push for real systematic change. I agree with that

[woven condor]

Exactly

[peak trail]

"Sensitive" its a sensitive topic, what do you think I'm going to be? You could do with some more sensitivity.

[jade loom]

I live close by! I'm fucking horrified! I'm just saying that you can't even relate to knowing someone who's been stabbed through people! Jesus christ

[proper dome]

It’s so scary to think that this happened so close to me

[jade loom]

Same

[proper dome]

And with all the protests and stuff going on there now it makes it even more scary

[jade loom]

I know, my best friend can see the smoke from his back garden

Wtf why are you laughing

[peak trail]

I can imagine you'd be horrified. Fear is definitely justified, I can't imagine what residents of Southport must be going through at this point in time. Which is even more motivation to push for systematic change and show love and support for the families. No matter how afraid you are, talking about what the perpetrator "deserves" will only make everything worse. It'll only evoke more negative emotions and strengthen the ones that are already present. For your good and everyone else's, please be mindful of what you think of and say

[magic summit]

This thread is to discuss the horrific situation in Southport, this thread is not the place for such arguments.

This is an incredibly saddening situation, and the entire mod team sends our thoughts to Bebe, Elsie, and Alice’s families. We ask that you do the same, instead of arguing about what should and should not be discussed.

Please follow our rules, on being respectful and so forth, please just stop arguing, please only use this thread if you feel comfortable reading/engaging-with uncomfortable content and just be kind to one another.

[jade loom]

@woven condor why did put the skull emoji on my message abt the riots?

[uncut lava]

Help I’m sorry but might I ask for like a short summary of what happened

[woven condor]

Just saying it bad about being able to see the smoke

[jade loom]

That emoji normally means laughing btw

Just to let you know

[proper dome]

Also, if anyone in the area is 17+ and is willing to give blood I think alder hey was asking for donations

[woven condor]

I thought it ment something bad

[jade loom]

Three kids have been stabbed (and passed away) in Southport, England. 11 more are injured because of a mass stabbing attack at a dance and yoga swiftie event

[magic summit]

Yesterday there was a knife attack in Southport, UK at a Taylor-Swift-themed dance class, unfortunately 3 children lost their lives in this event, with a further 11 injured, 2 children of which in critical care

[uncut lava]

Oof now I see where the swiftie part comes in

I was wondering what it had to do at first but now I see

[jade loom]

Nope.

[obtuse maple]

yes, it was a Taylor Swift themed dance class

[woven condor]

Pin this

[peak trail]

It doesn't really have anything to do at all

[jade loom]

It obviously does, it was a swiftie event

[woven condor]

Well then

I learn something new every day

[proper dome]

It kinda does though

[uncut lava]

Feels like it’s such an violent & exaggerated way to point out hate to Taylor swift

Well feels like, it is

[obtuse maple]

I was also wondering if Mods could be able to pin a gofundme link regarding to this situation? The goal has yet to be reached and the people who organized the donation are trying to directly get the funds that come from it

[brave sand]

https://www.justgiving.com/page/swifties-for-southport

[woven condor]

If it is directed at Taylor yeah most definitely

[peak trail]

I don't think we can determine whether that is of consequence or not. We have a list of facts and that taylor swift had anything to do with the stabbing itself is not on that list ofnfacts

[proper dome]

I recommend getting your news and sort of updates from bbc news and not here though

[magic summit]

I am not sure if we can endorse fundraisers

[brave sand]

@obtuse maple this is the right link, right? I donated to this

[uncut lava]

I mean the swiftie community is big, but any loss means everything :(

[peak trail]

Definitely

Well maybe not just bbc

[jade loom]

It was a taylor swift event! Oh my god

[proper dome]

The just giving link goes directly to alder hey I think

[woven condor]

Yeah 😦

[jade loom]

It's like talking to a bloody brick wall jesus christ

[peak trail]

We've talked about this already, I'm gonna back down. Don't think another argument is prudent

[magic summit]

Lets not.

[obtuse maple]

Oh okay! Just wondering 🤍

[peak trail]

We as in the server? Out of interest, why not?

[jade loom]

The police have already said it was at a taylor swift themed yoga and dance and bracelet making workshop.

[peak trail]

Yes this is correct

[woven condor]

Oh dang

[magic summit]

… As in, it would be a decision we make as an entire team, not something a single moderator can just allow

[peak trail]

Makes sense

[brave sand]

Actually the goal on JustGiving was 13K and it has gone past 200K!

[obtuse maple]

Yes! But there was also another one that I sent that hasnt been reached yet , it had a goal around 35k, but I’m sure it will be reached as well! I’m glad the other one reached its goal very quickly ❤️‍🩹

[brave sand]

Idk about the other one but I've seen the JustGiving one mentioned by the BBC so I think it's the biggest one and probably the one people should focus on?

[obtuse maple]

I agree! it’s best we focus on that one given how much money was raised from it

[uncut lava]

The people who mention the incident don’t mention that t was Taylor swift related

[jade loom]

It was a taylor swift themed event, dancing and yoga to her music & friendship bracelet making

[woven condor]

Do so to try to get any anger away from taylor?

[frozen ermine]

are people arguing if this was a directed attack BC it was a Taylor Swift event?

[uncut lava]

That’s true and understandable

[uncut lava]

Yes obv

[frozen ermine]

not really obv

who's to say this wasn't serial

[jade loom]

It wasn't, it was a 17 year old boy

[frozen ermine]

we don't know much Abt the guy so y'all should probably wait for real facts

[uncut lava]

Yeah we shouldn’t gamble, but 17 is a really young age to commit such a crime

[jade loom]

Says you who just said it may have been a serial killer

[visual condor]

Very sad

[frozen ermine]

scum comes in many forms

[frozen ermine]

that's actually not what I said

[jade loom]

?

Close to what you said though x

[frozen ermine]

yea, serial means pattern

no x

patterned behavior

[jade loom]

17 years old. May have been a psychotic episode. Was not a serial killer behaviour

[frozen ermine]

girl

[jade loom]

Look up James Bulger

[queen fjord]

Oh that is horrifying. Feels like something from the origin story of a main villain, except this actually happened

[jade loom]

I know x

Killers can come from any age

[uncut lava]

We rather have no killers ofc

But you can never fully prevent that

[jade loom]

10 years old them two boys were when they killed that two year old. 17 years old is different as he's almost 18

Some ppl are just born evil

[uncut lava]

Not to bring up too many other accidents but a young teen in my country killed a family’s in an elevator once during New Year’s Eve and it was shocking

There’s a lot that can happen so fast

[sweet temple]

Wow

[jade loom]

Jesus

[uncut lava]

And it was like a 14-15 year old and it wasn’t by accident

The news went so viral when it happened

[queen fjord]

The youngest killer ever was Ms. Ziapasa in 1906, who was 3 years old when killing someone.

At least according to Wikipedia

[visual condor]

Sad

[queen fjord]

Yes, that is a 3-year-old murderer. No charges were made because back then there wasn't charges for someone that young

[distant harness]

Oof, I didn't knew there was a channel for this specific incident... I'm thinking a lot about this today, this made me so heartbroken for those poor children 💔

[jade loom]

I know :(

[uncut lava]

Yeah this is gonna get a lot of attention from the world, and mostly swifties. I mean even Taylor swift herself reacted because it was a her themed event

[wise yew]

Why is everyone always so quick to blame mental health for murders?

[quiet path]

Idk if someone answered already but yep this is the right link!

250k£ raised

[lost cape]

Mental illness should never be an excuse to do something so calculated and sinister as in killing a child, I agree

[quiet path]

wow....

[quiet path]

the thing is he got a cab to that exact place

He knew what he did

This one's not on mental health

[visual condor]

Straight thinking people don't randomly attacking girls

[uncut lava]

I hope the judge etc aren’t too soft about this and just sentence a looongg jail time, even though it won’t bring back the lost lives

[visual condor]

It can be mental health that didn't say "no"

[wise yew]

Mental illness does not cause murder

[visual condor]

Like intrusive thoughts

[lost cape]

This was planned. He knew what he was doing.

You can’t just say “oh they’re young, oh they’re mentally ill”, there’s many of us who suffer from personality, mood and psychotic disorders and we aren’t doing calculated planning to attack little girls.

If they find him to not be guilty because of mental health or they find him to be guilty regardless, he should be locked up for as long as possible because IMHO once you kill somebody, and it’s calculated and planned, I don’t think any amount of rehabilitation will ever be enough to allow the individual back into society.

[quiet path]

if someone gets a cab specifically to a Taylor swift themed event you'd consider it to be calculated by him and probably some other just as stupid friends that were "hehehe Swifties should die they're so annoying🤓"

[uncut lava]

But what was the reason for the attack, the moment he knew swifties would be there. Or did he know anyone there?

[wise yew]

we 👏 don’t 👏 know 👏

[sweet temple]

I think applying labels to things like this too quickly before we know anything usually just demonises the mental health condition being discussed

[wise yew]

so stop assuming motives 😀

[visual condor]

Very sad

[quiet path]

even if he had beef with one of the teachers

It doesn't excuse stabbing them
It doesn't excuse stabbing kids HE COULDN'T IN ANY WAY HAVE BEEF WITH

[lost cape]

Exactly

[wise yew]

again ur assuming motives

[visual condor]

What are gun control laws like in UK

[quiet path]

"even if" is the keyword

[wise yew]

we have gun control laws

[quiet path]

im not saying it was that

[lost cape]

It wasn’t a gun it was a stabbing

[visual condor]

Yes what are they like

[wise yew]

It’s still assuming & interpreting

[visual condor]

I didn't say it was a gun

[wise yew]

it’s bringing up excuses

[wise yew]

can’t get a gun in the uk

it’s nothing like America

[quiet path]

hello did you read my message I literally said that in any way it's not excusable to stab them

???

[wise yew]

the only way u can get a gun is if it gets smuggled in

[lost cape]

People are very quick to blame this on mental health and age and all sorts because our society can’t still fathom that yes, young people regardless of age can be evil and calculated

[uncut lava]

Knife laws make it so difficult as well, people are allowed to keep knives for self defense but yet use it for the opposite

[visual condor]

Seems like UK has more knife attacks

[magic summit]

Not entirely true, you can legally own a gun for very specific reasons.

[visual condor]

Or more common rather

[wise yew]

oh I forgot about hunters icl

[wise yew]

Well yeah

you can go out and stab someone with a kitchen knife

u can’t really ban knives because people need them

[uncut lava]

And knives are technically legal

[wise yew]

whereas you can limit the amount of people with guns because not everyone needs them

[visual condor]

It's sad I wonder what will happen

And they still in hospital too

[uncut lava]

I pray for no more deaths

[visual condor]

Just young people at a party

[quasi silo]

Isnt gun ownage illegal in uk? Dont quote me cuz i dont live there

[jade loom]

Yes it is

[visual condor]

Very sad

[brave sand]

Even the police don't tend to carry guns in the UK

But guns aren't entirely illegal, just a lot more controlled than in other places

[quasi silo]

I wish it was more controlled in the usa I swear i heard shooting just the other night

[visual condor]

Yeah in us police should use other means before going right for the gun

Gotta get rid of police qualified immunity

[quasi silo]

Whats that? /gen sounds familiar tho

[peak trail]

/gen?

[quasi silo]

Its a tone indicator for being genuine

Like /jk is just kidding or /nm for not mad

[quiet path]

what

they should

omg a fellow Lisbon N1 attender

[quasi silo]

Batons are hard af tho and hurt like hell

[quiet path]

hmm

I see

[brave sand]

Omg!👋
I'd be happy to reminisce on the show in another channel!

[quiet path]

#eras-tour-discussion

!!!

[visual condor]

Pretty much cops are protected from individual liability (they can't get sued)

So the police departments and cities get sued instead

Individual officers either get reassigned to desk duty or get new job in another city

[quasi silo]

Thats so bs! They already get away with murder

[visual condor]

Yeah it sucks

[eager mulch]

Oh gosh that’s terrible

[jade loom]

There are riots tonight, ambulance on fire

I think it's died down, not entirely sure

[quiet path]

all these videos about the situation with bigger than the whole sky in the background kill me even more

[dusky kiln]

comments like this make me sick

[green solstice]

this is how i find out… omfg

hope their families are able to heal well from this incident

[distant harness]

I'm listening to BTTWS and crying, I feel like Taylor will sing that song on her next show as a tribute to all the Southport victims 💔

Massacres involving children/teens terrifies me a lot, but that one from Southport shattered my heart in a whole new level

[dim path]

33 Merpol officers injured today

The force i can tell from firsthand experience is terrible but they are the reason more people weren’t hurt yesterday

[mild maple]

from only the murderer??

oh my god

[dim path]

There is possibly underlying reasons but discussing opinions on the police force wouldn’t be appropriate here

[mild maple]

classic

[naive echo]

I can’t believe they are rioting at a place where children have been killed

Haven’t far too many people been hurt oready without having violent protests

[woven condor]

Exactly

[delicate frost]

This is just so much at this point man 😔

Loads of prayers from my side

[quasi silo]

Wait why are people rioting???

[naive echo]

Because of false social media claims they are calling people racist over it

[quasi silo]

Im sorry im still a little lost- people are rioting because false claims over the crimes being committed cause of race? Am i understanding that correctly? /gen

[naive echo]

Basically

People are rioting because of false information about where the attacker was from and his religion

Which when it was found out people were lying online about his religion they went to a mosque next to the attack site and a couple hundred to a thousand people started a protest which went into a violent riot

[quasi silo]

Wtf!!!

[naive echo]

Yeah,

I think there was only 1 injure so far but they were throwing bricks and rocks at the police and setting police vans on fire

1 police officer got a broken nose but that’s the only injury so far I believe

[limpid ember]

Are ppl attacking mosques bc they "think" the suspect was Muslim? That is so sick. They're taking advantage of somebody else's grief ew

[naive echo]

That riot was worse then I thought

39 police officers injured 27 being taken to hospital

[naive echo]

That second video explains what happened 🫢🫢

[quiet path]

is there any new info?

[naive echo]

Not yet

Should be soon

[naive echo]

Yesterday the news about the third victim came out as an update by the hospital at about 12pm. So should be similar today

About 3-4 hours

[uncut lava]

Help I’m so afraid of putting any part of Ciwyw in my insta bio because people maybe will relate it to the incident

[naive echo]

No one will care

People are more focused on the victims then the town on where the attacker was born

[peak trail]

I see

[ancient obsidian]

i dont understand how someone has the heart to do that

[ancient obsidian]

It was mostly an English far right extremism group known as the English Defence League (EDL)

[neat sage]

IT HIT 300K!!

[quasi silo]

I literally can not comprehend why the hell people 1. Thought the murder was muslim 2. Would go out of there way to burn down a church???? WHY would you punish the entire group for the actions of one

[visual condor]

Ignorance

And stupidity

[proper dome]

the justgiving team gave the fundraiser £10k

[steep ivy]

The choas overnight is truely awful the community was already dealing with tragic loss and a feeling of unsafe going out. But when people from outside of the area come in and cause more damage to the community as of right now 29 police officers are in hosipital, a police van being set alight. People need to just let people grieve and come together as a community to support each other than have to clean up the afteramath of the violence overnight.

[visual condor]

Gotta redirect that anger and energy

[wise yew]

They thought he was Muslim because of people spreading false news on Twitter

[sweet temple]

Fucking disgusting

[wise yew]

to be square I understand the anger from the protestors

I 100% do understand the anger

[jade loom]

Going down to place flowers today and I just made this x

[quasi silo]

Yea i get that but like its still disgusting why you would attack because of their religion??? The religion didnt do this

[quasi silo]

Thats so sweet

[jade loom]

People have been sending bracelets to alder hey but they've asked for no more due to too many, so I just thought it would be nice to add some to the flowers

[magic summit]

England (at least the right-wing people) are rather anti-immigration right now, and very anti-foreign ideas and religions

[quasi silo]

Disgusting reminds me of my parents 😠

[barren sun]

The chaos in these certain areas were very much not needed and unnecessary

[wise yew]

I also think a lot of the protests do also stem from the fact that most people who live in Liverpool / surrounding areas do NOT trust the police, or news reporters at all

[patent nymph]

if you look in the commets on the news its disgusting but it is a lot of ppl saying this isnt extremism which is so scary, the behaviour desplayed last night was extreme right wing behvior and is so scary that people dont see that

[peak trail]

That's really nice

[steep ivy]

Thats beautiful

[jade loom]

We've just been and put them down, it's so upsetting. Had a little cry. It was weird bc there was so many cameras

[indigo oracle]

Yeah the media are gonna be there for a while

[woven condor]

Well what's the update on the riots have they ended yet?

[indigo oracle]

They ended yesterday

Dunno when

Something like 53 officers injured

[woven condor]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-brainard-welcome-to-the-table-wttt-florida-what-gif-26679749

WHAT THE HELL PEOPLE!

[steep ivy]

At least 29 police officers are reciving hospital treatment

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c3gr5ljyz41t?post=asset%3A83081839-04c5-485e-b3f3-8b4f46b1d8ae#post

BBC have just reported the Swifties for Southport fundraiser has surpassed 300k (edit)- just checked and it's actually at £311,715

[indigo oracle]

Wonderful

[jade loom]

Four dogs aswell injured 💔

[visual condor]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-18989905

[naive echo]

that’s sick

how sick can you be to bring a ‘bladed article’ aka a knife. to a riot near the site where 11 young girls have been stabbed

which 3 of them died

[woven condor]

From what I heard a lot of the rioters where not from Southport

[naive echo]

They were from all over

Manchester

Liverpool etc

[woven condor]

Ah

[visual condor]

New word "affray"

Thanks

[wise yew]

it’s beautiful how the community came together today to clean up & fix houses

[jade loom]

Absolute cunts. All deserve to be thrown in prison

[dim path]

Looks like Lancashire police also had a part in the disorder

[wise yew]

they were called in to help

There was Merseyside police, Lancashire police & Manchester police iirc

[ruby kiln]

What else has happened from the incident other than the deaths

[visual condor]

People still in hospital I think

[ruby kiln]

Ok

I heard that there was a riot

[visual condor]

Oh yeah that too

I thought you meant about the specific incident

[ruby kiln]

No

[wise yew]

bbc news will help u understand

[ruby kiln]

Ok

[visual condor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Southport_stabbing

[woven condor]

Wikipedia already got a page on this dang

[dim path]

They do within an hour of things breaking out in the news

[woven condor]

Oh

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-27063063

I learn something new every day

[visual condor]

Wiki is fast

[woven condor]

Fr

[steep ivy]

Now protests are happening in london https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c3gr5ljyz41t?post=asset%3Adc1ae7a4-0392-4b0b-9aed-f7ab92b153e2#post

[indigo oracle]

Whoever has donated to this, thank you so much ♥️

[indigo oracle]

Merseyside born Anthony Gordon has donated £10,000 to a Go Fund Me page raising money for the Southport Knife Attack victims

[indigo oracle]

A 17 year old monster has been charged with 3 counts of Murder, 10 counts of Attempted Murder and Possession of a Knife following the Southport attack.

I refuse to call this murderer a human being

[woven condor]

So the suspect is now officially charged?

[mild maple]

13 victims oh my god

that's so messed up

[woven condor]

Why dose it have to be Taylors number 😭

[jade loom]

That's a tiny bit insensitive!

[woven condor]

Yeah

[jade loom]

Disgusting. As soon as 'it' turns 18 his name should be said

[woven condor]

Then we might be waiting for months

[indigo oracle]

Hopefully they do

[cinder laurel]

What happened idk what this is

[jade loom]

They've said that he's almost 18, like a month off

[indigo oracle]

Well he appears at Liverpool Magistrates Court tomorrow

[woven condor]

Oh nvm

[jade loom]

Google the southport incident

[indigo oracle]

I'll explain give me a second

[visual condor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Southport_stabbing

[cinder laurel]

:0

[indigo oracle]

On Monday there was a knife attack in Southport, England at a Taylor Swift Dance Class.

3 children have sadly died with 10 in the hospital.

A 17 year old monster (refuse to call him a human) has now been arrested and charged, cannot be named until he's 18 for legal reasons.

Yesterday they were riots in Southport at a mosque because apparently the monster who did all this was from a Rwandan background (apparently his parents are from Rwanda but he was born in Cardiff).

[cinder laurel]

Oh damn

[wise yew]

it’s not “apparently” his parents are Rwandan, it’s a fact they are - which isn’t necessary to know

[indigo oracle]

So we know his parents are Rwandan but that's pretty much it

[cinder laurel]

OMG the poor kids

[jade loom]

Born in cardiff and moved to banks (3 miles away from southport) in 2013. His parents are Rwandan

[wise yew]

there was riots on the mosque because of misinformation being spread about the attacker & a lot of the rioters were the far right English defence league people & they used the misinformation to fuel a riot

[indigo oracle]

Arsenal and Liverpool are having a moment of silence for the victims, also wearing Black Armbands ahead of their pre-season game.

Respect ♥️

[jade loom]

We saw lfc's flowers when I went today, so moving.

[wise yew]

there is genuinely nobody I hate more in this world than Anthony Gordon but I do respect him a lot for donating and I think it’s beautiful how communities come together so quickly & easily

[woven condor]

Any word on a the suspect motive to commit this terrible act?

[wise yew]

No

[jade loom]

So touching, the amount of flowers and toys is so beautiful to see

[woven condor]

Most definitely

[jade loom]

No, I guess that will be said soon, though as he has been charged

[woven condor]

But Court has not said if he's innocent or guilty yet?

[wise yew]

No

Because he hasn’t been to court

It happened 3 days ago

He has only just been charged

He has not been to court so has not been proven innocent or guilty

[woven condor]

Alright just making sure

[magic summit]

Update
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj50ljn44j8o

A 17-year-old has been charged for the murder of three girls, and a further ten counts of attempted murder, they will appear before Liverpool City Magistrates' Court later on Thursday.

Please do not speculate any motives, or disclose (unless allowed under UK Law) the identity of the charged person.

[woven condor]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-droid-roger-roger-bump-gif-2155536895475091112

[indigo oracle]

Pin this please if possible

[ancient obsidian]

?

How have they been charged

Court cases take months for charges and sentencing

Oh?

They have..

This is the quickest I've ever seen a conviction happen

[vernal quail]

awe i feel so bad

[naive echo]

The 17 Year old has just arrived at Liverpool City Magistrates Court after being charged on 13 offences

That’s from bbc news

[patent nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHNaRbVGBpQ

[jade loom]

A_n__studio on Instagram

[quiet path]

bigger than the whole sky is so heartbreakingly fit for these situations

makes you think of how much of a good song it is

[naive echo]

The fundraiser has just hit 330,000£

[steep ivy]

There is an update on the protests in Hartlepool overnight https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cydvr9d0vd3t?post=asset%3Adf1aad37-daea-4094-a640-96f737d5db44#post

[indigo oracle]

Oh BBC have named the guy

[jade loom]

Thank FUCK

I'm acc so relived thank you police 🙏

[steep ivy]

They have now lifted all reporting restrictions on the suspect including the ablity to share his name and the court process

[patent nymph]

Yes because he has been charged they can say his name now hopeing this goes to court quick so the families can heal and so he has to rot in jail longer

[naive echo]

The first stabbing victims have been discharged from hospital thank the lord

Hopefully they can start healing now

2 victims discharged

[jade loom]

Oh my god

The stabber went to my school and got expelled in year 7 the year before I joined

That's terrifying wtf

He got expelled for carrying a knife

Wtffff

[solar coral]

Oh my god

[indigo oracle]

..

[wise yew]

it takes months for sentencing and a trial, charges can happen pretty quickly

[quasi silo]

That makes me so sad most criminals show warning signs of committing terrible crimes and no one pays attention it feels like

[sweet temple]

Yeah it’s really scary

[jade loom]

May ask my teachers if they remember him when i go back to sixth form, I bet they do

[steep ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/live/_heUlglCoFQ?si=HguBdspFL03tFG6p

Starmer is holding a conference to discuss the aftermath of the Southport stabbings

[jade loom]

watching sky news now. paused mad woman for this💔

[ancient obsidian]

He raised a really important point on social media companies imo

[quiet path]

How didn't that get him in the juvenile hall??

[jade loom]

Absolutely no clue

[naive echo]

The boy turns 18 in 6 days. So he will receive a full adult charge

[patent nymph]

He would anyways bc he is over 16 and it is murder charges

[naive echo]

Under 18 your still a juvenile here

[patent nymph]

It’s not I have had to go through a court case because of a stabbing before the girl who did it was 16 and got adult charges

[naive echo]

Oh

🤷‍♂️

[visual condor]

You went to court?

[magic summit]

If your case is significant enough you can be changed as an adult.

[ancient obsidian]

He's an adult in 1 week

Which is way before his sentencing

[patent nymph]

I was stabbed in school a few years back so yeh

[quasi silo]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-gif-25165862

[lost cape]

Wouldn’t he regardless since murder is that serious of a charge?

[wise yew]

No

[peak trail]

That's not something you can be punished in that way for

Not here at least

Actually it depends on the kind of knife

But no you can't be incarcerated for simply carrying

[visual condor]

Huh?

[ancient obsidian]

?

[quasi silo]

Can i ask what happened?

[obtuse maple]

@quasi silo

[quasi silo]

I know what happened at southport but i mean the shooting that was just mentioned

[obtuse maple]

Oh sorry 😓 im not sure about that

[visual condor]

@ancient obsidian what are you talking about?

Google didn't show anything

[quasi silo]

Me either 😭😭

[obtuse maple]

they kinda just said it and dipped 😅

[quasi silo]

Fr

[visual condor]

Is it a warning? 👀

Very sus

[patent nymph]

didnt that happen months ago? also the reason a channel for this tragedy was made was becauase the 3 children that lost there lives along with the ones injered were baby swifties and were at a taylor themed class

also taylor spoke on it, because of that a lot of people were asking about it

[ancient obsidian]

They wouldn't, that incident is very very irrelevant

And the victim sustained minor injuries

[ancient obsidian]

https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/august/appeal-for-information-following-injury-shooting-in-netherton/

not very important tbh

[naive echo]

Massive riots in Belfast Liverpool Nottingham Leeds London Portsmouth Hull Stoke Sunderland and Southport due to the stabbing incidents false information

from the Far Right

[proper dome]

I was just in central liverpool and there was a big riot

It was easy to avoid but still quite scary

[obtuse hemlock]

its terrifying really, people are using it as an excuse to do disgusting things now aswell

[wise yew]

big massive riot on county road, shops robbed & a library set on fire

most of the people involved in the riots aren’t even adults anymore it’s teenagers and kids wearing balaclavas thinking they’re someone

And they aren’t

it’s embarrassing and anyone who is letting their children out to take part in this are disgusting humans

[indigo oracle]

Those teenagers are meant to be the next generation 💀

[wise yew]

saying “save our kids” when infact this is scaring the children more, bins being set on fire right outside houses but nooo they want to save the kids n protect them!

yes something has to be done about knife crime but setting fire to bins and burning libraries and stealing vapes from shops are not gonna fix it

[karmic nebula]

"save our kids" yet those same kids in southport cannot leave their homes due to violence and their town being destroyed

these protests are an excuse for people to be racist

[wise yew]

Funniest thing is! They’re not even protesting in Southport anymore!! It’s just in random cities across the uk!

[quasi silo]

I hope no one gets hurt when taylor goes back to london for the last leg of her tour

[obtuse hemlock]

its the fact that the families wouldnt even want this either

their children got hurt, but now this is putting other children at risk

its vile

[proper dome]

as someone who’s in london rn after being in liverpool, it’s 10x better in london but who knows what might happen when her shows are in wembley

[quasi silo]

Gotcha

[dim path]

I live in Liverpool girl 😭

All day everyday just sirens

Weird seeing Heddlu Cymru and Lancashire Police when your in Merseyside

[proper dome]

Same

[round willow]

I am slowly becoming more and more afraid

[patent nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfTz0OGbUm4

[indigo oracle]

Gonna be one in my town.. ugh this country

Half of them aren't even protesting some just joined in to steal a few stuff from lush cause they probably stink of shit

If your actually using the death of 3 kids as an excuse to go steal from somewhere like lush then I'm sorry but lemme just quote Champagne Problems and change it up "WHAT A SHAME YOUR FUCKED IN THE HEAD"

[quasi silo]

Thats crazy cuz like they do know there are cameras around right?? And that theyre gonna get arrested for stealing

[patent nymph]

makes me sick

[wise yew]

they don’t care

[quasi silo]

:(

[tidal lily]

Hoping Taylor speaks out against the far right riots in London next week

[quasi silo]

Doubt she will

Her team has her lips sealed

[patent nymph]

Unless she has to cancel or move shows bc of them i doubt she will be able to

Think about it if she talks up now her concert is 10X more likely to be a target, it is already most likey some kind of target bc 1 how these riots started and 2 because it is a large group of mainly young girls and women

[naive echo]

So sad what has she done apart from help people

Disgusting

[patent nymph]

this has nothing to do with the southport incident here is the link to the chat descussing this - https://discord.com/channels/115332333745340416/1270865475869478934

[peak trail]

.

[indigo oracle]

https://news.sky.com/story/pair-jailed-over-riots-in-southport-and-liverpool-in-televised-sentence-13193099

[quasi silo]

As said earlier please keep that in the thread specifically labelled for that event

[quasi silo]

Wtffff

[woven condor]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-wtf-is-going-on-uhm-wtf-confused-gif-22989882

[uncut lava]

https://tenor.com/view/taylorswift-gif-4924748

[magic summit]

@dim path Please be aware of the content you are sending, make sure it does not contain words which would otherwise be blocked here.

[dim path]

Sorry 😔🙏

[patent nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SiqUrXu4w

[sweet temple]

So so awful

Beautiful statement

[dusky kiln]

this is taylor with the families of the victims

[jade loom]

Honestly I started crying when I saw these pics

[ornate iris]

wait wth i missed out whats the southport incident

[indigo oracle]

A few weeks ago in Southport, England a 17 year old male killed 3 little girls and injured many others who were attending a Taylor Swift Dance Class.

£387k+ have been raised so far for the victims.

Taylor has already met some of the victims at one of her London shows.

[jade loom]

He went to my school and got excluded a year before I joined for carrying a knife 😬

[indigo oracle]

..

So it ain't his first time with knives

[dim path]

It’s sadly a big problem now

[jade loom]

I know

[quartz forum]

payed my respects on the love of one of the girls funeral. rest well.