#US Politics

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unique terrace
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war crimes/international crimes sure, but that just comes with the burden of our military at this point

keen crane
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parties aside, electing someone with 34 felony counts is insane, and the fact that people flex his felonies is even weirder?? like how are you bragging about the fact he has been convicted of felonies

unique terrace
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That being said, felons should have rights restored when they come out of prison

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So at least we have the precedent that felon can become president.

wide pawn
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They can through the impeachment process. Unfortunately, it's shown itself to be an inefficient process

unique terrace
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Yeah, I know, but like it's important that we don't just have a president taken out of their job.

reef zenith
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Supreme Court says otherwise 🤸‍♀️

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The President of the United States, or should I say, The King…

keen crane
unique terrace
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Corruption is different than being a convicted criminal

placid jacinth
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Sm for “no one’s above the law”

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Guess that phrase carries no meaning anymore

keen crane
unique terrace
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why not?

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plenty of felons get out of the penal system and function perfectly fine on the outside

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Felons are people too

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A lot of crimes are felonies and shouldn't be.

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Like certain repeat offenses become felonies that shouldn't be.

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Criminal drug possession is a felony

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But people have issues with addiction regardless

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Some people just sell drugs to survive

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Making a blanket statement that all felons don't deserve normal rights of citizenship is not really cool.

sinful forge
# unique terrace why not?

ig if you've broken the law multiple times and purposefully like he has, (especially since his felonies were related to his first presidential run) you don't really have any business upholding it

unique terrace
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I agree that Trump isn't fit to hold the office, but like other felons? Plenty of felons could do a great job at being in government and campaign on things like criminal justice reform to improve outcomes for inmates and/or work on improving outcomes for kids who grow up in poverty.

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They have first hand experience on how the system abuses people who don't have many other options.

sinful forge
unique terrace
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It is unfair!

forest heron
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but there’s a difference between felon and felon

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trump’s 100% felon energy

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but also, isn’t the president supposed to be the face of the country? if it’s common knowledge that the president has committed crimes, why should people respect them?

unique terrace
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yeah. I get it.

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my view walking to rehearsal every week btw

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frail marsh
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@wide pawn The media really pushes that the left hates the right and the right hates the left. They live off of division.

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Far leftists are the same as well. Extreme sides of the spectrum are pretty deaf to anyone outside of their belief system.

cedar wharf
reef zenith
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25% on one of your biggest markets 😍

cedar wharf
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And the economy is already dropping cause of that

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See if you can guess when Trumps message went out

reef zenith
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The thing with trump is he just says things, doesn’t think about how terrible the consequences will be, but he knows his followers will hear “tariffs on foreigners” and think YES!!!

west plover
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(what do you agree with former president trump, candidate for prime minister? well his tariff plan was amazing) would be a career ender

placid jacinth
keen crane
# unique terrace why not?

Ig my critique is that people who are a convicted felon cannot like have federal jobs (im pretty sure) or vote. So to be able to hold office is a weird thing to me. Not in a felons arent people way tho😭

vague canopy
keen crane
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WHATTT

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Thats actually insane icl

vague canopy
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thats why i was so surprised when trump won 😭

keen crane
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Everybody was surpised🙁

I know the constitution technically doesn't state that a felon cannot hold office, but I'm pretty sure there are laws that a felon cannot hold a federal job. And is the president not a federal job

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I could also just be completely wrong

vague canopy
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yeah i thought so too but here we are... 😰

keen crane
zinc sluice
nimble mason
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garbagemen make a lot of money actually its a taxing job

dim kindle
cedar wharf
nimble mason
dim kindle
cedar wharf
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The drop last night was what you call an “algo” move. Meaning a bunch of computers read “Trump + Tariff” and reacted negatively on their own.

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Faster than any human could.

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It was a big drop in the short term, it has no long term effects though. We’ll have to wait for the actual tariff for that.

wide pawn
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I only use fidelity for stocks

cedar wharf
cedar wharf
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Bump?

ivory wigeon
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hii

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i felt from a coconut tree... and felt AMAZING

royal badge
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I guess this is her final message

wide pawn
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3 weeks after counting, the democrat in California's 13th district just overtook the incumbent Republican

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If this holds, this would mean democrats actually gained in the house of Representatives

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California takes a very, very long time to count their ballots.

dim kindle
open cosmos
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Ah yes

The party that claims they aren't nazis

reef zenith
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That image looks like straight up AI as well 😭

open cosmos
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Probably Is yeah

bronze zinc
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This one in fact is aimed at directly fighting the traditional Republicans and replace them with loyalists

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open cosmos
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I mean that's how 99% of conservatives/Republicans are

Including ones already in government positions

They all want America to go back to the 50s and 60s

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They've outright admitted to wanting to make it so women, lgbtq+ people, and people of color can't vote anymore and have no rights

open cosmos
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That's literally why they are called conservatives

They want to "conserve traditional things"

Anything modern Is bad to them

reef zenith
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Being conservative doesn’t necessarily mean you’re anti-modern

open cosmos
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It's kinda in the name

storm garden
wide pawn
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Liberal literally just means you want progress. Conservative means you want things to go back

wintry remnant
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Let's not do the whole "Back in the day, the parties were the opposite" trap here.

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What matters is what they stand for now in the year of our Lord 2024

wide pawn
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Dixiecrats flocked over to the Republican party after the Civil Rights movement because they were racist af

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That's why the South is so deeply Republican now

reef zenith
# open cosmos It's kinda in the name

Perhaps, but people are multifaceted.

Like I have some conservative views on some things, then more liberal ones on others, its ignorant to brand all conservatives as one thing, and then brand liberals as something distinct

bronze zinc
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Based on population estimates, elections after 2030 are going to be almost impossible for Democrats to win if they don't start looking at new states

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wide pawn
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GA, NC, and AZ seem the most likely to shift bluer. Texas is a possible but very hard to reach

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Poor rhode island, losing 1

bronze zinc
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Texas is more red than New York is blue

sinful forge
bronze zinc
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A map of the 2024 election if the electoral college votes were based on the 2030 population estimates

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sinful forge
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sinful forge
wide pawn
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Every incumbent party in the world is losing elections due to the after effects of covid. Inflation is everywhere, and it was unstoppable after the pandemic.

The thing is, Democrats actually did better than any other incumbent party in the western world

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And America is one of the most well off nations after covid

cedar wharf
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lololol

sinful forge
# cedar wharf

"i don't believe in you having basic rights to self determination" "why can't i come to thanksgiving?"😭

cedar wharf
keen crane
dim kindle
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You know what's going to suck? buying food because of how high the stores are going to put there prices to combat these tariffs

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It's already hard to get food like wtf

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But some of you guys don't believe in any of progect 2025 till it happens to you

unique terrace
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Most people don’t understand struggle until it happens to them. They only understand struggle that they’ve experienced.

hallow epoch
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Which is CRAZY to me like do people really not have empathy

unique terrace
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Yeah. It’s fucked.

cedar wharf
sinful forge
delicate rampart
vague canopy
vapid nova
hallow epoch
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We love destroying the country as middle class citizens 🥰🥰🥰

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And its definitely not the corporations fault that piles thousands upon thousands of pollution into the environment, buys up housing from normal people to resell and rent at an extreme up charge and charges regular day products at and unaffordable price 😝😝

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bleak thunder
cedar wharf
placid jacinth
flat coral
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idk why this skips around so much but it’s accurate 😭

dim kindle
# flat coral

Because there focusing on news that has been manipulated

dim kindle
west plover
# flat coral

feel like the iraq war should be written there next to bush

vapid nova
# flat coral

biden did more for us than we will ever know or recognize truly love him or hate him he got his shit done i'll say that much

crystal rapids
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nimble mason
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yikes

dense sandal
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So Kamala tanked?

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sonic wedge
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hmmm...

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wide pawn
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Like.... the double standard is so wild

sonic wedge
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the media?

wide pawn
sonic wedge
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ohhh right i get you

wide pawn
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I kinda expected Biden to backtrack. It's... whatever. I just accept there's no accountability for anyone in power anymore

gentle vale
# sonic wedge hmmm...

Are we really surprised? I think we all expected him to do this. I don’t think it is ok to do this. Like ofc trump is going to do worse but still

reef zenith
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It demonstrates the corruption of politics, on all sides of it… whether its the party you support or not

frail marsh
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And the country can use that against him til the day he dies.

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Joe gets his son off with a pardon. The two are not comparable.

wide pawn
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He's also going to 110% pardon all the January 6th rioters that stormed the Capitol and wanted to kill Mike Pence

frail marsh
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He won't get the felon thing dismissed.

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Pardoned.

wide pawn
frail marsh
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He still has that scarlet letter.

wide pawn
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Not that it matters

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He's not going to face any real consequences for trying to overthrow an election

frail marsh
# wide pawn He's also going to 110% pardon all the January 6th rioters that stormed the Capi...

According to some of the news sources I have seen, those individuals were found guilty of nothing and sat in jail for over a year and lost that part of their life. Not sure what is real and what is fake, but to hold any person for a crime that they did not commit is absolute trash and the court system should pay for the lost time in their life. I believe that about anyone held in prison.

frail marsh
wide pawn
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Like, what's the difference between both sides having criminals who clearly won't face consequences for their actions

hallow epoch
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What did he do again i cant remember

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wintry remnant
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Hunter? Illegal gun possession and illegal drug possession.

frail marsh
wide pawn
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Nowhere near as bad as trying to incite a violent mob to kill your vice president and overthrow the election but... yeah

wide pawn
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Like... Trump should be in fucking prison rn

frail marsh
wintry remnant
hallow epoch
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frail marsh
wide pawn
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That's fucked up

hallow epoch
frail marsh
wide pawn
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Biden isn't innocent, Trump isn't innocent. The point is that if Trump isn't going to face consequences, then I care less if Hunter Biden doesn't

wide pawn
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He waited 3 fucking hours before doing anything

frail marsh
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I think Trump faced more consequences than Hunter is what I am saying. I agree with you that more accountability should be dished out to both.

wintry remnant
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What consequences?

frail marsh
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frail marsh
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wintry remnant
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Yeah but like

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What consequences

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Did it stop him from doing anything?

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Did he pay anything out?

wide pawn
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People brought a guillotine. They were legit going to hang Mike Pence if they found him and Trump didn't care

wintry remnant
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Did he spend any time incarcerated?

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There were no consequences. The consequence was having a record which usually disqualifies you from a lot of jobs but those jobs weren't ones he was interested in.

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wintry remnant
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Also, hey, buddy. If I told my mom, "you should buy a fire extinguisher" and then 4 days later, I threw a molotov inside the house. I don't think I can claim I warned my mom.

frail marsh
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When you label one person a felon, but not another, who had consequences dished out?

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frail marsh
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A criminal record?

wide pawn
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Being called a felon isn't a consequence.

frail marsh
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You are crying for "more". Okay. I get that. But that IS a consequence.

wintry remnant
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Yeah but like

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Come on

wide pawn
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Criminal records are meant to deter people from future employment and other opportunities. CLEARLY THAT DIDN'T WORK

frail marsh
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It can still be used against him later.

wide pawn
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He's about to be the most powerful person in the world

wintry remnant
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If I got blocked by someone on Twitter that I never interact with, is it a consequence? Yeah, sure. But I never interacted with them so like...what were the adverse effects to me?

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Effectively, it's like nothing happened at all.

wide pawn
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Like... HOW can he possibly be put any lower after being the most powerful person in the world

frail marsh
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I am sure there are probably people working behind the scenes to leverage that and get him ousted from office. Maybe in 2025. 2026. Down the line even once he can no longer run... the record is there.

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I think if one person had any sort of legal repercussions doled out, that the others in power should have the same.

wintry remnant
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I mean I don't doubt people will try but just because he's a felon. It doesn't mean he can't legally be President.

frail marsh
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Or the others in power and those related.

wide pawn
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He'll have control over the world's strongest economy. The world's strongest military. The most influential country in the world.

He can bully states into dropping charges by withholding funding (he was about to withhold funding to California during the wildfires in his first term. The only thing that stopped him was when he learned they affected Republican areas)

wintry remnant
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He was elected, that's it.

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He'll either delay the cases which were already themselves delayed during his first term or just have them dropped or maybe the state charges themselves will fall into the hands of a friendlier prosecutor or government and drop it themselves.

frail marsh
wintry remnant
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Bend the knee, so to speak

wide pawn
frail marsh
wintry remnant
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It was true for one guy

frail marsh
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It is in the news. That woman was interviewed and said it came from the higher ups in FEMA.

wintry remnant
wide pawn
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Okay, fine, but like there goes the problem of using public funds as political games. Trump did it first, doesn't make it right if democrats do it either

frail marsh
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It happened in multiple cities and states, not just Florida. People died. People were dying. People were stranded and trapped. I cannot hear out an a argument about California when people in Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas suffered and no one batted an eyelash.

frail marsh
wintry remnant
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Don't see any news saying it happened outside of Florida

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And again, the person was fired

frail marsh
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There needs to be accountability across the board and we the people need to encourage that instead of picking sides.

wintry remnant
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And Florida and just Florida appears to be suing FEMA

frail marsh
wide pawn
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Trump tried to deny aid to blue states during Covid. People were dying. The economy was tanking. My governor had to kiss ass and get supplies sent in without Trump's help.

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It's messed up all around

frail marsh
wide pawn
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I'm just gonna hold my breathe and brace for the next 4 years. We're in for a wild ride

wintry remnant
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Hold your breath and keep your head down.

hallow epoch
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Im just waiting for my death at this point and im just gonna ride the wave til i get there

wintry remnant
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Hope that the sitting dumbass stays that way and gets distracted every week by some shiny new thing

wide pawn
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I'm kinda thinking Trump won't live through his second term. The man is obese, almost 80, and eats McDonald's every day

hallow epoch
wintry remnant
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Let's hope that doesn't happen.

wide pawn
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He almost died when he got covid. If not for the best healthcare in the world and experimental anti-body treatments, he'd be dead

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hallow epoch
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wintry remnant
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Yeah, Trump got COVID. It was a whole thing.

hallow epoch
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Damn smh

wide pawn
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He got it from an event when he appointed his last supreme court justice. Everyone there got it. Chris Christie almost died too. Christie actually became pro-mask because of it

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But yeah, kinda ironic that politicians in America get the best healthcare in the world, paid entirely by the taxpayer, and those same politicians are trying to repeal the ACA which insures millions of low-income Americans

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We're at the point where millions of Americans want "Obamacare" repealed not knowing it's the same thing as the ACA insurance that they're on

frail marsh
# wintry remnant Don't see any news saying it happened outside of Florida

https://youtu.be/Gu0o04TyLMA?si=ow3oYHM4dVEBmEj8

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EXCLUSIVE: Fired FEMA says she is innocent; Fla. homes skipped due ...

EXCLUSIVE: Fired FEMA worker denies wrongdoing, says Fla. homes skipped due to MAGA verbal attacks on workers

A Federal Emergency Management Agency fired one of their workers for allegedly directing workers not to aid hurricane survivors with Trump signs on their property.

About 20 Lake Placid, Florida homes were skipped and did not receive d...

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The problem is she talked about it, but the quicker it got swept under the rug and hushed, the less investigation and accountability there will be.

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She was just an easy scapegoat because she got caught, so all eyes and fingers are pointed on her.

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Tends to be the corporate way.

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She was a whistleblower once she got caught. Sad, corrupt stuff. I hate every inch of our government. We need a huge reform.

wintry remnant
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I do remember that the response was that Trump supporters were being avoided because a lot of them in the Florida area mentioned on social media that they would shoot FEMA workers if they approached them

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the quicker it got swept under the rug and hushed

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Florida is suing

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You think DeStantis is gonna let this slip from his fingers?

frail marsh
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Because that was where that employee was managing.

frail marsh
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She was the one who got found out, so she is going to take the brunt of the transgression while damage control goes out everywhere else.

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As is the way. Sadly.

wintry remnant
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I mean, if they find evidence in the Florida case that there's some truth to what she's alleging, the other states can definitely sue

frail marsh
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Hopefully so. I know that there were cases where aid applications were practically immediately denied in the Carolinas. I believe that is being investigated.

wintry remnant
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Yeah so like

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if it's being investigated

frail marsh
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I just wanted to provide context to what I said earlier. 🫶🏻

wintry remnant
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Don't be so quick to say

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It's being swept under the rug

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Like dude

frail marsh
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I will because it isnt talked about anymore. The election is. The Republicans that were just elected up there are being talked about.

wintry remnant
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I mean

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Ok

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I mean this is the

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Elections channel

frail marsh
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I meant socially. Not here.

wintry remnant
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Okay

frail marsh
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I understand this forum. ☠️

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It was such a "huge platform" that people leveraged during the times leading up to the elections... "AND THEEEN"...

Nothing. Crickets. As is the norm. ☠️

dense sandal
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Can't wait for sequel

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wide pawn
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Everyone's pretty quiet this time around

vapid nova
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now THIS is who i voted for

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i think talking about Hunter Biden without acknowledging what Biden has gone through in regards to losing THREE children and also he no longer hurts the president by pardoning his son. If Kamala won he wouldn’t have because it would reflect poorly on her but he has nothing left to lose.

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anyway ARTE FACT 2025

hallow epoch
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Arte is awesome i trust him

weary coral
# wide pawn I mean at this point why not

If you were a father, you’d 100% do the same thing

Hunter got felony charges for: paying his taxes late
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Ticking a box when buying a firearm saying he ‘was not under the influence’ when he was

These are clearly bad, and misdemeanours, but no way are they convictions lol

Yet Trump pardons Ivanka’s husband’s father who did very dodgy financial dealings and told his sister to shut up by using blackmail
Trump then put him as Chief of negotiations with France.

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cedar wharf
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Trumps Justice department would’ve went after Hunter. It’s good he was pardoned.

wide pawn
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Yeah, honestly

flat coral
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I think the presidential pardon is generally kind of stupid but if the country is gonna elect a convicted felon I think anything is game at this point and I think Biden deserves to pardon his son

dim kindle
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Like people shouldn't really freak out because like we voted a FELON so like people are basically dramatizing what Biden did to his son

wintry remnant
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Simply put, Trump supporters who complain about the hypocrisy of Biden pardoning his son are arguing in bad faith. They clearly don't give a shit. They support Trump.

wide pawn
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Trump pardoned a lot of people who didn't deserve it

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So... yeah I really don't care if Biden pardoned his son

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His crimes were tax evasion and gun possession. You'd think Trump supporters would find that based

cedar wharf
west plover
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just remembered we could have had al gore in 2000

wide pawn
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Yeah, maybe if Clinton didn't have a scandal we would have

wintry remnant
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If the Supreme Court wasn't a bunch of fucking hacks, you could've

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wide pawn
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I'm surprised by how much i don't care that he did

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We elected a convicted felon. Justice is dead

nimble mason
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imagine if canada became a state lol

dim kindle
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So if thst happens he would try to put south America as a "state"

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And try to continue and that's terrifying.

vapid nova
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well south korea is imploding in on itself

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vapid nova
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yes they shot it down no thr military is not listening

dim kindle
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It's scary I don't want to be in the vas part of history because of this.

vapid nova
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well like i said it seems south korea is tumbling towards something and that will impact the usa

dim kindle
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Whats tge ysa

vapid nova
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vapid nova
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we have so many troops stationed there

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south korea going under gives DPRK a place to come in too

drowsy jewel
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Hello

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Politics

patent mountain
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patent mountain
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Dem poster child right there

patent mountain
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If the penalties for breaking a law are paying the fine cost, then it’s not an equal punishment

wintry remnant
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If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class.

patent mountain
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If the penalty for a crime is erased by winning president:

wide pawn
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Honestly it should be that way

wide pawn
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The final House race was just called

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Imagine that, in a year Trump won, democrats actually have a net gain in the House of Representatives

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The House majority will be so narrow they may struggle to do anything significant at all. They barely were able to anything this last term, and now it's even more narrow

patent mountain
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People favor democratic policies and don’t realize their cult leader opposes them, or, that they want him to reconcile the policies they voted on.

west plover
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we're about to get the biggest "I told you so" in modern history with these tariffs

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vapid nova
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this better not i swear

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wide pawn
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Hegseth is so bad that DeSantis is a step up

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💀

vapid nova
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desantis is never a step up

dim kindle
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Like they didn't generational trama is thriving in black community

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wide pawn
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WhaaaAAAAT

dim kindle
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And then being haunted by the scars that go on in there.No thank you.

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It's really sad, because a lot of people are going to forget, and people have already forgotten what happened during the two world wars and before

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Like legit anybody remember pearl harbor

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Most of that generation is dead now.

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Like legit, world war two started because hitler, with followers because of a manifesto, promising all these things and blaming a minority group, seems familiar?

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open cosmos
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Huh????????

placid jacinth
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I’m done.

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vapid nova
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dim kindle
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This person full on has click bait in the brain.I bet she just doesn't have fun when she goes to amusement parks.

dim kindle
# cedar wharf Yep

Yeah, I feel bad for the people who are basically the frogs that are getting boiled in a pot that's slowly turning up.

reef zenith
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Trump will blame China

wide pawn
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I mean yeah what did they think would happen

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Better buy your electronics now while you can

wintry remnant
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To my knowledge, this is a reply to the Biden's administration's tightening of US exports of microchips to China, not exactly Trump's fault but Trump's tariffs will definitely make it worse. This might be a double-move because they can use these bans to bargain with Trump. Speaking of bargaining chips, gallium and germanium are things Canada also exports so...

wide pawn
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Well, people wanna blame Biden for inflation start started under Trump, they shall blame Trump for policies started under Biden

hallow epoch
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Good thing i got a new phone recently 😭

wide pawn
hallow epoch
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😭 i was gonna try buying a new car soon cuz my dad wants me to get something s little newer thsn what i got but NEVERMIND ig

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Stuck with my old ass car for awhile more now

wide pawn
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I hate American cars but those might be the only thing I can afford if his tariffs go into effect

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My toyota prius is 12 years old with over 250 miles on it and still works! American cars break down after like 8-10 years 😭

hallow epoch
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I have a 2002 toyota corrolla 😭

unique terrace
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Get that new foreign car now y'all.

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and buy used

hallow epoch
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I literally cant 😭

swift atlas
swift atlas
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i LOVEEE my fords even the 90s were good

wide pawn
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When companies realized that they can make more money by building things not to last

swift atlas
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yup exactly

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ford ceo doesn’t even drive one he drives a Xiaomi

open cosmos
hallow epoch
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THAT WAS A PLAN??????

open cosmos
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Yes

hallow epoch
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Jfc

wide pawn
hallow epoch
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Yuck

wide pawn
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West Virginia too, apparently

hallow epoch
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Noooo not west virginia 😭😭😭 my great grandparents r from there

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nimble mason
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cedar wharf
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Omg

vague canopy
cedar wharf
wide pawn
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Omg

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There's also stuff like this...

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cedar wharf
wide pawn
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A lot of conservatives love liberal policies. They've just been fooled into thinking they're conservative policies

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Healthcare reform is very widely supported

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I hope this is a sign for a revolution for the working class

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cedar wharf
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https://vxtwitter.com/rpsagainsttrump/status/1865778164728741953?s=46&t=xNpQeQTS7WGrjVP5P4VhXw

vxTwitter / fixvx 💖 1.42K 🔁 333
Q. Can you guarantee that consumers won’t pay more because of your tariffs? Trump: "I can't guarantee anything. I can't guarantee tomorrow." https://t.co/Ij7uinlvpU
Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump)

Q. Can you guarantee that consumers won’t pay more because of your tariffs?

Trump: "I can't guarantee anything. I can't guarantee tomorrow."
https://t.co/Ij7uinlvpU

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Can’t wait for those high prices to hit

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lowk hate when ppl say "this is what america voted for"

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no shade

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So, I guess America is getting what it voted for

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Make America Greatly Depressed Again

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placid jacinth
wide pawn
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cedar wharf
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The Germans didn’t realize Hitler was a bad pick until they had bombs dropping on top of their heads. That’s just how it has to happen sometimes

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sonic wedge
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we forgetting mein kampf exists or..

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we forgetting his whole political career prior to the ||holocaust|| was full of anti jewish propaganda...

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they knew exactly what they were voting for

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Perhaps, but the context of the situation (incredible Post-War Depression, skyrocketing inflation) was probably a reason, people began to scapegoat the blame to “outgroups”

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Consequences have to be felt

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brother you literally know nothing

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theres more than this obviously but

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this too

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they didn't want hitler, at all. they literally set the reichstag on fire a month after he became chancellor 😭 and because of this, the nazis (the police who were controlled by the nazis) mass arrested members of reichstag, which made room for the nazi party members to take their place

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hitler was only made chancellor due to pressure and the disliking of communism iirc

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tbh germany was just extremely radicalised very quickly by the nazi party

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i’m gonna correct meli here for a second just because I can, but Germany only accepted Hitler so fast because of world war because they felt isolated from the rest of the world and like they were being punished unfairly, they were primed for radical fascist views

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millie

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i didn't do history in school im guessing off the top of my head 😭

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also let's not compare trump to hitler

vapid nova
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meli I am literally using speech to text and I forgot to correct your name on it

sonic wedge
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LMAO

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i feel like its more that the literal american people voted for him. not the country.

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he goes against what the country stands for (which, in history, has been hypocritical but thats beside the point), but goes with the american people's stance if i'm making any sense

sonic wedge
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that makes complete sense

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to me anyway

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im not sure if making sense to me is a good or a bad thing 😭

vague canopy
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😭😭 at least one person understands

placid jacinth
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4 years of pain and misery with trump.

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americans

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americans wanted this
not america as a country

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that said, i don't disagree with your point

placid jacinth
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Like said before there is no lie in what I said. Nor am I gonna go into detail and say x amount of ppl wanted this and y amount of ppl wanted smth else.

wide pawn
vague canopy
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thats what i said

hallow epoch
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All i know is i didnt vote for this fuckass orange dude 😭 and im gonna suffer consequences of it anyway

placid jacinth
unique terrace
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There is a general shift toward far right and fascist policies worldwide. It's all part of the late stage capitalism we're experiencing.

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We're either headed for revolution or collapse.

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or one then the other

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Unless we can somehow stop corporations form contributing so heavily to our political system

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We should all be mad at corporations for most of this bullshit horror we're experiencing in our country.

hallow epoch
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FUCK CORPORATIONS

unique terrace
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There's a reason people aren't that mad about the United Healthcare CEO

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If y'all haven't been radicalized by something in the last year I don't know what to do for you.

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But let's cap this for a bit until eras is over for real. 😭 I need to weep about things other than our collective lot in life as the workers of the world.

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"No, the president cannot end birthright citizenship by executive order

Trump says he will sign an executive order ending automatic citizenship for children of “illegal aliens” in his second term. Experts agree that’s unconstitutional"
i wish i was kidding i just saw this headline and tage line

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unique terrace
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like I said, most revolutions are violent. that was a shot in that direction

vapid nova
unique terrace
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i mean he has morals, he went to an ivy, he's employed.

vapid nova
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well probably not employed anymore

unique terrace
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lol oops

wide pawn
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He was the valedictorian of his high school

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Damn 💀

vapid nova
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he showed us what its REALLY LIKE to crash out

cedar wharf
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Simply no choice but to Stan

unique terrace
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Did he just fix partisan politics? Did he finally unite us against the real enemy? Is it open season on CEOs? Only time will tell.

storm garden
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And we warned yall

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But mfs still voted for him

wide pawn
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Just buy your stuff now and wait for the chaos to unfold

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unique terrace
# storm garden And we warned yall

And now is the perfect time to utilize community garden plots and farmers markets if at all possible. Let’s feed each other through this.

dim kindle
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For goods now

unique terrace
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There are SOOOO MANY zero waste and no buy groups that trade/give away/barter gently used goods so please use the ones in your community too

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I’m literally talking anything you can think of. like from shoes to blenders

hallow epoch
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I wish we could bring back bartering

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Like that whole system was great cuz there was no money which means people just traded stuff they wanted/needed

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Without the worry of equivalent exchange

unique terrace
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literally we can within our communities

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just not with corporations

patent mountain
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hallow epoch
unique terrace
# hallow epoch Not where i live lol

It’s totally less accessible in less populated areas but you also live a day trip away from a college town. There 100% is some sort of fb or insta group for that.

You can also start one with your friends for your neighborhood!

hallow epoch
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Hmm that sounds fun

flat coral
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I get that person of the year is based on impact and not how good of a person they are but it’s so crazy to me that a rapist just got named time person of the year

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I guess hitler got it in 1938

wintry remnant
hallow epoch
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Thats fucking crazy

sonic wedge
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again, the president elect is NOT always named person of the year, they are just more likely to

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theres been a few times where it has not been a president elect

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so for the past decade its been the president elect

sonic wedge
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person of the year has been a thing for almost a century

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or has it been a century yet idk

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ik and im looking at it now, and so far i've got 2 obamas for his 2 terms
2 bush

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sonic wedge
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i literally said they're more likely to get it but they don't get it everytime they're elected

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1996 it wasn't clinton, 1988 it wasn't bush (1988 wasn't a person anyway), etc.

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i said there's been a few times where it has not been a president elect, a few.

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im not saying they don't usually get it

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mb i didnt read it correctly

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i looked it up and i can't find anything about the reasoning for presidents getting it, it just says "The chosen person is usually someone who has been notably influential or prominent during the year and could also be a hero or villain. It is externally oriented, unlike most awards. It's given to someone who has no affiliation with the awarding organization."

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it wasn't clinton in 1996 because it was dr.david ho for his work in hiv/aids research. which was 100% more influential and important

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wait this lowkey goes hard

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this only goes to 2019 but https://public.opendatasoft.com/explore/dataset/times-person-of-the-year/table/?flg=en-us&sort=year

Time's Person of the Year, 1927-Present

TIME's Person of the Year hasn't always secured his or her place in the history books, but many honorees remain unforgettable: Gandhi, Khomeini, Kennedy, Elizabeth II, the Apollo 8 astronauts Anders, Borman and Lovell. Each has left an indelible mark on the world.TIME's choices for Person of the Year are often controversial. Editors are asked to...

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open cosmos
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flat coral
dapper sail
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It's been a month since Trump won

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had to leave for a bit cause it was toxic af but I'm back

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Now we wait till he's officially in office, have the DNC figured out how they lost?

vague canopy
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im ashamed of my own party for letting that gumwad win

dapper sail
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I've been trying to point out their flaws last month during the election discussion

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Even Bernie Sanders called it out

vague canopy
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right

dapper sail
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Unfortunately politics is more than just a moral high ground game, you need more than just having celebrities support you, you have to be convincing that you can help the working class

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Despite Trump's lies, people still took them in because the other side was not connecting well with the working class

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Economy is the biggest thing that people care about cause they want to afford to live

vague canopy
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kamala was a good candidate, certainly qualified, but she wasnt the best with her policies imo

dapper sail
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My biggest issue with Kamala is that she tends to not have enough consistency with her policies

vague canopy
dapper sail
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I never found her "incompetent" but I found her lowkey annoying at times and genuinely concerned why there wasn't a vote held

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She's the most unpopular democrat

vague canopy
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yeah i can see why people didnt like her as much

dapper sail
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Biden didnt seem to give a hoot about getting rid of tarrifs

vague canopy
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thats true but trump literally said he would raise tariffs for our major importers so

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Not surprised, I get why Trump is doing it but his idea only works on paper

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In reality it'll raise electronic prices

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imo it doesnt even work on paper 😭 its just going to raise prices for everyday groceries and ofc electronics

dapper sail
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Electronics are probably the biggest target because a lot of the computer/phone components to make the computers/phones, a lot of them come from China and Taiwan

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right

dapper sail
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Tarrifs on Taiwan would be horrible if the tarrifs on China wasn't bad enough

dapper sail
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It would take decades before we ever take #1 in every manufacturing area

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At what cost? More expensive things now

vague canopy
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yeah and guess what!! almost everything we own is sourced from foreign countries 😭 his logic is so brainrot it gives me a headache

dapper sail
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Fr, Trump's gotta look at the bigger picture

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He did say he had concepts of a plan so I guess we'll find out what his official plan is once he's in office

vague canopy
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"concepts of a plan" just cracks me up fr

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I believe what he meant was he may experiment with what works and what doesn't but I could be wrong

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or he has no clue whatsoever and he just said that so hes not NECESSARILY lying

dapper sail
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Trump isn't exactly what I'd call a "good" speaker so he always has his VP do the heavy lifting

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He did it for Pence and now Vance

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wide pawn
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He actually picked Vance because he's good with words

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That's why Vance was doing so many Sunday shows

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I mean he doesn't always come off as the most charismatic but he is good with words all things considered

open cosmos
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That's literally why he picked vance to begin with

sonic wedge
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he doesn't agree with some of the project 2025 plans, i hate the guy massively but project 2025 is not his presidential plan

wintry remnant
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He disagrees with it so much that Russell Vought (who wrote the Presidential powers chapter of Project 2025) will be director of Management and Budget, Stephen Miller (an advisory party to Project 2025) will be deputy chief of policy, John Ratcliffe (who wrote the National Intelligence chapter of Project 2025) is poised to be head of the CIA, Brendan Carr (who wrote the chapter on the FCC) is poised to head the FCC, Pete Hoekstra (named contributor) will be ambassador to Canada, Tom Homan (named writer and developer) will be "border czar" which isn't a real thing but neither is DOGE yet here we are

sinful forge
# sonic wedge he doesn't agree with some of the project 2025 plans, i hate the guy massively b...

he's nominated like over 10 literal authors of it to his administration already, also if you read his actual plan "agenda 47" it's almost the exact same thing, don't just believe him blindly when he says he's got nothing to do with it, he does. 144 authors of project 2025 worked for his first administration/campaign in some way. his name appears 312 times in it. when he was campaigning he said he hasn't read it and doesn't know what it is, now in an interview he said it has many good ideas. jd vance literally wrote it's foreword💀

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i said some

sonic wedge
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he disagrees with SOME of it

wintry remnant
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The minimization of it I feel is disingenuous

sonic wedge
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its wrong to say that it is his official presidential plan because it is not

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that's incorrect information

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I mean sure we can get into semantics

sonic wedge
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its not a case of semantics, its a case of i replied to someone who said it was his official plan to let them know it wasn't

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Okay then

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👍🏻

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has he came out and said it's his official presidential plan? correct me if im wrong

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i agree with the fact that he is appointing writers of the project as directors and whatnot so it seems like what it seems like, but if he has not came out and said that is his official plan then it can't be called that.

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Okay so

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In case you're being genuine

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No, he has not. But and this is some advice for you

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If you say "Project 2025 is not Trump's plan", you are technically right, yes.

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But it will look to everyone else as a conservative dogwhistle.

sonic wedge
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that's everyone else's issue, not mine. if people actually knew me they'd know im anti trump and anti conservative. just because someone is correcting you on something doesn't mean that they're standing for conservative values.

wintry remnant
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Hence, the advice.

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this is why politic discussion through social media turns sour, you say one correction and people say you look conservative.

sonic wedge
wintry remnant
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If you say "Project 2025 is not Trump's plan", you are technically right, yes.
But it will look to everyone else as a conservative dogwhistle.

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That's why you got the replies you got.

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Because it's a line said by conservatives to minimize Project 2025's influence on the current presidential agenda

sonic wedge
wintry remnant
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Because I'm telling you, you are

sonic wedge
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okay bianca

wintry remnant
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And I know you don't intend to

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I'm just saying it

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That line

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Is a dogwhistle

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Is it your intention to blow it? No. You've made that clear.

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Hence, I'm telling you, you probably shouldn't in future discourse because that is what it is.

sonic wedge
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Yeah so like, tread carefully

sonic wedge
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so it's not my issue if you took that as a dog whistle when i did state i don't stand for him

wintry remnant
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People come on here and say "I hate the guy" or "I voted for Kamala"

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And then are very blatantly conservative in their views. They go mask off with something about immigration or wealth inequality or straight up get caught in some level of ignorance like not knowing what a tariff is.

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So apologies if I've mis-clocked

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It's just...I've seen it before.

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Not saying that's you, but I was prepared.

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maybe you shouldnt jump to assumptions then?

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That's on me but I am telling you that that line is what it is.

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Like, I've seen something like "I voted for Kamala but I agree that her flagrant disregard of border security is a huge issue"

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There's 2 things there

sonic wedge
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okay but i've told you that's not what i was doing

wintry remnant
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Yeah I know and I get that

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I'm just saying that, for your own sake whether here or elsewhere, that if you say something to that effect, it will send out a signal stronger than "I hate the guy" to some people

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Here, you're cool

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But yeah, it is what it is.

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Agenda 47 only came to fruition after months of denial that Trump even so much as looked at Project 2025. When Agenda 47 came out, it was quickly compared to P25 and is very similar. You could argue it's "Project 2025 after you cut out the bad stuff." Which, when viewing on it analogously to the "It's like copying my friend's homework but I made it better," is okay, I guess. But on a deeper level, you have to ask why you chose that friend to copy homework off in the first place. And even after so, why did you then choose that friend to run the government with you. The rhetoric of Trump's plan being Project 2025 is simply just "Actions speak louder than words." Sure, he said his plan is Agenda 47 but then why bring people on from P25? Some of them are understandable, some of them are repeat hires from the first term. But there's also a considerable amount of contributors on there that're being tapped for high-level positions. If the plan was so good that you're getting people who worked on it on board, why the months-long denial? If the plan was so bad that you had to cut out the bad stuff, why bring on people that worked on it? In both cases, it doesn't paint a good picture.

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sonic wedge
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im not disagreeing with you both!! im saying its not right to come out and say its his official plan when its not

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im gonna drop this because i dont want it to turn sour

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im fed up of explaining myself

dapper sail
sinful forge
# dapper sail Not even surprised, Trump has always been terrible with words. He needs a transl...

stop making excuses for him? calling prime minister trudeau of canada "governor trudeau of the great state of canada" in a truth social post a few days ago and threatening to invade canada multiple times if they don't comply w the tariffs isn't just him being bad with words. and him saying he wants "generals like h17ler had" isn't out of context, he's just that bad of a human being. his words aren't being taken out of context, he really just says terrible things.

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sonic wedge
wide pawn
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Time will tell, I just don't think appointing multiple literal authors of project 2025 to his administration is helping your case here

hallow epoch
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Why believe any politician on what they say theyre all liars thats why i just look at what they do instead

dapper sail
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That would start major shit

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If that did happen, that would have not been on my presidential bingo card

sinful forge
dapper sail
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I've gotten used to how Trump's personality is. I dont like it but it'll probably be like 2016-2019 all over again with Trump

wide pawn
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Straight up fascist shit right there

dapper sail
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Yeah definitely, he seems to really hate stations that spread "misinformation" about him

wide pawn
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Its hard to counter misinformation when Democrats also have some bad history. Obviously an insurrection attempt is by far the worst, but the general public lacks the information to make that distinction

frail marsh
# wide pawn .... he's a liar... look what he does not what he says

That goes for a lot of politicians... if not the majority of them.

I think part of the problem in America is people are so quick to vehemently attack people they perceive as not sharing their own views, instead of being able to have healthy and respectful conversations. We cannot grow if we are constantly being nasty and confrontational with one another. I agree there needs to be a line in the sand, especially with radicals. This thread is a very good illustration of what I am talking about. People are quick to jump at other people's throats instead of holding space for a non-emotional discussion.

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y’all pelosi just broke her hip omg

hallow epoch
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My great grandfather broke his hip last year

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Its healed well for him yay! And we celebrated his 100th birthday this past august

wintry remnant
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Shout out to all those whose grandparents or great grandparents who suffered from polio

dapper sail
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I know she isn't my favorite politician but I still hope she's okay

flat coral
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He’s not even president yet and he’s already said that multiple of his major campaign promises aren’t guaranteed

dapper sail
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Not surprising, most politicians promise more than they can realistically deliver

dapper sail
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Trump milked the whole "my economy was better than Biden's" to death

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Doubtful Trump will make it worse but I'm also doubtful he'll make it better

wide pawn
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So yeah, it was good under him, but most Americans don't realize it takes a few years for an economy to catch up to president's policies

sinful forge
sinful forge
# dapper sail Doubtful Trump will make it worse but I'm also doubtful he'll make it better

if he does literally anything he's promised to (tbh u can't rlly count on him doing that based on his record) it will get worse. the us's trade with canada is worth more than their trade with the uk, france, china, and germany combined, and he's promising a 25% tariff on everything canadian/mexican and is threatening to invade them if they don't comply💀 it won't even lower prices it'll do the opposite. if he follows through with mass immigration it will also make the economy much worse

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dapper sail
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I had concepts of gifts too until I decided something for my gf

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patent mountain
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I wonder how many items are made in china, in the average American household

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And why is thousands ?

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The price to manufacture there, ship, and sell here, is still cheaper than American made equivalents too often.

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check out how much of Taylor swifts merch is made in America 💀

wide pawn
hallow epoch
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patent mountain
# hallow epoch Like 0

I worked her warehouse last nov-feb so all of her merch passed by me. I can’t remember a single thing.

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could have been a few odd items but I really don’t remember a single item being “made in USA”

hallow epoch
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I can understand the want from american politicians to increase goods production in america but making EVERYTHING so fucking expensive isnt gonna make that happen

patent mountain
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Are Taylor swift merch items detrimental to the avg American? Nah. But does me bringing that up put it into perspective for this server? Maybe

hallow epoch
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dapper sail
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Well, a lot of clothing is not made in the USA

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So in terms of clothes, yeah sales for those might climb

wintry remnant
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Everything will climb.

dapper sail
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Also, I would like your opinions on this

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At first, I wanted to put no but I also was thinking about the future too, AI could be a great tool for our military as long as intense testing is done

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I'm almost in the middle with this one, I think for right now, No. In the future, I say Yes

wintry remnant
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As someone whose undergrad capstone project involves AI and machine learning, absolutely not.

dapper sail
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I understand the hate towards AI because it has killed originality but I believe it can be a very useful tool once it becomes more advanced and it's ready to do bigger things

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It should be viewed as a tool and not as something to rely on all the time

wintry remnant
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Tell that to the companies pushing for it

dapper sail
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Right now, it should definitely not be operating our military weapons. I'd say give that a couple more years of testing before that goes live

dapper sail
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can't stand Coca Cola for that, it's so unoriginal those commercials are

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It's the heavy reliance on AI for extreme tasks such as animation, voice acting, art, etc. that I can't stand cause AI shouldn't replace those things yet it has started to. Treyarch replaced one of their voice actors with an AI voice already in Black Ops 6 and it's pissing me off 😭

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That's what frustrates me the most about AI is how corporate America steps in and says "hey lets use AI to replace everything"

sinful forge
wintry remnant
hallow epoch
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FUCK AI

hallow epoch
dapper sail
hallow epoch
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FUCK corporations FUCK capitalism

dapper sail
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I work in IT and we like AI, I believe my coworkers hate the way it's also being used in corporations

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If corporations weren't super corrupt, we'd be able to see AI actually being a good thing

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I use AI for information gathering (I check to make sure it's accurate as well)

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Google Gemini has been helpful when doing Google searches

vapid nova
eternal stratus
dapper sail
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I've never heard of that book, I should see what it is

rapid turtle
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Lol I just heard someone call it the Trump administration 2.0

dapper sail
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It is part 2 of Trump administration

dapper sail
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I just realized that eventually, Gen Z will be old enough to where we'll be in control of most things like CEO positions and whatnot

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In the next 20 years, if we don't succumb to corruption, we can be the ones that lead change

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I just hope that when we get to that point, we don't have the same ole corruption

cedar wharf
shut willow
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i wish people would stop wanting to bomb russia. there are so many innocent people. nobody there likes what is happening.

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nobody seems to understand that, and americans have shown it.

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including our government.

wide pawn
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Obviously nobody wants innocent people to die, but I understand the longterm benefit attacking Russia. Putin will not give up under any circumstance, but he might be put under more pressure if he sees his own country is in jeopardy

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When Ukraine invaded Russia a couple months ago and brought the war to them, the nearby towns evacuated but many citizens there started to question how their government can claim they're easily winning the war when something like that happens

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Russian state media is basically telling everyone that they have it under control, theres no issues, and everyone in Russia is 100% safe

open cosmos
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Bro what

hallow epoch
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WHAT WHY

wintry remnant
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I mean...you know why.

wide pawn
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Means more expensive mail server

hallow epoch
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Yea but still

shut willow
wide pawn
shut willow
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i know one who is.

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he is currently residing in america, but he and his family live in russia.

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he provides me with uodates. he helps me understand the problems that russia is suffering.

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the fact he is capable of understanding, and states that others know, make me think they do.

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hope this isnt confusing

wide pawn
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I get it. Obviously innocent people there don't deserve anymore pain than they're getting

odd prism
cedar wharf
vapid nova
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🧍‍♀️

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dim kindle
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I need to have the "white" people to realize we are descendents of Italian and Russian Garmin British Irish Scottish people

shut willow
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not you wanting to kill millions of innocent people

vague canopy
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to be fair the same was/is happening in ukraine

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(not justifying either point)

reef zenith
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Lets avoid talking about the Ukrainian-Russian War in this channel

shut willow
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мы не хотим, чтобы ты был здесь

reef zenith
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Lets not use other languages to control who is and who isn’t welcome in this thread

shut willow
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what

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ты позоришь этот язык

reef zenith
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Вы оба можете использовать английский?

shut willow
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damn, is what he is saying

reef zenith
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Understandable, but we are an English-Language-Only server

shut willow
cedar wharf
shut willow
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(he is saying 'fuck you' in russian)

cedar wharf
reef zenith
shut willow
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can you please contribute something to this conversation

reef zenith
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We’ll discuss archiving this thread soon

hallow epoch
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Jfc

shut willow
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не говоря по-русски, модератор хочет, чтобы мы прекратили

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(telling him not to speak russian)

reef zenith
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Is there any need for this?

shut willow
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moderator, can you please do something about this. do not like him acting like this

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and you continue it

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no

reef zenith
shut willow
dapper sail
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(SpongeBob reference)

placid jacinth
cedar wharf
dapper sail
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I may have voted Trump in 2020 but I'm not dumb 😭

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In 2024 I went Kamala though

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In 2020, I just couldn't stand Joe Biden

reef zenith
dapper sail
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I still can't stand Kamala but Trump went crazy and starting being a big baby

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Unfortunately I'm 0-2 in presidential election voting

hallow epoch
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But yea he is a big baby

cedar wharf
dapper sail
cedar wharf
dapper sail
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Did you guys have major political toxicity back in 2012?

cedar wharf
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33 pepehappy

dapper sail
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I feel like it started becoming mainstream to be toxic about politics in 2016

hallow epoch
cedar wharf
dapper sail
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Would've chosen any other democrat over Kamala but we had no choice

dapper sail
cedar wharf
dapper sail
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I remember Romney and Obama having class and didn't see a single person being toxic over it

cedar wharf
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@dapper sail

dapper sail
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Now it's only the VP debates that are normal which is cool, just really boring and nobody watches them

cedar wharf
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Romney accidentally saying “binders full of women” as a huge scandal that ended his run.

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It wouldn’t even make the news if Trump said it

dapper sail
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Romney was definitely a weak candidate from the start

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Trump is unfiltered and many have lowkey accepted that now

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It's given republicans success but at what cost? Well, professionalism and likeability

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Honestly I don't like either party but the ones that find an issue with things that are "woke" are the most annoying

vague canopy
dapper sail
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Everyone else is fine, I just hate the term woke especially if there's not a proper explanation behind it and it's just "I don't like it" or "it has gay person in it"

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This goes with movies, TV shows, video games, etc.

vague canopy
dapper sail
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Yeah it's frustrating cause it doesn't open the door to reasonable discussions

shut willow
dapper sail
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It's like talking to a brick wall

shut willow
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it did not begin, it stayed

dapper sail
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Conservative buzzwords are cringe

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Liberal buzzwords make me cringe too, at this point we gotta stop throwing buzzwords and bring back discussions

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I don't feel like calling someone a cis white man cause they disagree with me 😭

shut willow
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they do not make sense. kamala is not communist, she does not show support for that

dapper sail
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cause I am also a cis white man

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I don't think any politician in DC is a communist

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It's weird why they say that

shut willow
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saying this as a cisgender white man

dapper sail
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It's annoying af seeing that too especially when I discuss things unrelated to gender or race

shut willow
dapper sail
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Can't argue that

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In this diverse world, there's a lot of different opinions. Some mean no harm but support unknowingly harmful opinions while some support opinions knowing they are harmful

shut willow
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i think there is not one true right thing but there are good and bad things

dapper sail
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True, there are good and bad things. If someone is being misogynistic and clearly has the intent to with their opinions, go right ahead with the buzzword

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If someone is saying something they don't realize is misogynistic (this could be the case with catholics especially in the case of Harrison Butker), throwing out buzzwords is not my go to thing

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You're better off properly discussing it with them instead of making them feel like a bad person

sonic wedge
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is this ai?

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why does he look so off putting

cedar wharf
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I used grok on Twitter

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You can see on the bottom right corner

reef zenith
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you can’t send AI-generated images here.

frail marsh
frail marsh
frail marsh
frail marsh
frail marsh
wintry remnant
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Hoo boy.

vapid nova
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well gaetz reports are gonna be exposed !!

dapper sail
unique terrace
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I hope this next four years brings us fully into class consciousness as a nation. I’m tired of bickering with people who want the same things as me but won’t admit that almost ALL of the people who are supposed to protect us are siding with money instead of the common good.

wide pawn
dapper sail
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A few million less people voted this election than last election

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I know my gf and her mom didn't vote and her mom admitted it was the first time she didn't want to vote

rich flume
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Someone in Meredith said trump wants to buy Canada

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lol is it true

dapper sail
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I assume Trump is joking when he says that but I'm not sure

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Doubtful it'll happen but that means we are the maple syrup capital of the world if that somehow happened

frail marsh
wide pawn
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Everytime the greater evil wins, both sides just get more evil...

frail marsh
wide pawn
frail marsh
sonic wedge
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its not an opinion, its the truth.

hallow epoch
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I just saw an article titled that the defense budget was voted for to be around 800 billion what the fuck

sonic wedge
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2023 they spent 900 billion lol

frail marsh
sonic wedge
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thats just how it is

frail marsh
sonic wedge
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i mean my responses arent wasted as we are having a conversation lol

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did your vote influence anything? did anyone get elected for anything? did it make any changes? /gen

hallow epoch
reef zenith
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US Politics

rapid turtle
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Real changing makes sense

weary coral
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What bodies does the Matt Gaetz report have to go through before it gets released?

patent mountain
hallow epoch
open cosmos
cedar wharf
dapper sail
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Damn today was a bad day for the stock market

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Historically the stock market has always ended in an upturn, we'll be okay

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It doesn't stay permanent forever

wide pawn
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I mean, this really just looks like a correction

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They happen all the time, no need to panic (yet)

dapper sail
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True

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It's been a while since I've actively put anything in the stock market, I gotta do that again

vague canopy
open cosmos
wintry remnant
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Republicans and shutting down the government

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Name a more iconic duo

unique terrace
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also istg government shutdowns are so harmful

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Federal workers need to all be unionized.

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Their livelihoods should not be a bargaining chip in political fights.

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I miss when Vermin Supreme was the craziest presidential candidate we saw

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and even he was an activist/performer

patent mountain
unique terrace
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I mean, postal workers already are and it helps a lot.

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They're also a really good consulting client because the rules are really really clear for personnel.

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I really like the postal service

patent mountain
unique terrace
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Also, why would we be cutting non-military spending?
The pentagon misplaced billions of dollars and haven't passed most of their audits in the last decade. If they can misplace it then they must not need it.

patent mountain
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Looooong sigh about issue I won’t get into that we keep funding aid and simultaneously weapons to

unique terrace
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believe me I KNOW

patent mountain
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and then we read “aid suspended due to attacks on aid caravan”. If you don’t know who’s doin what….

sweet kindle
patent mountain
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Imagine we like house our veterans for a year instead of fund another country. Imagine.

unique terrace
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It's not even just that though. Just this year the Pentagon lost almost a trillion dollars and it isn't even the first time.

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lost as in can't account for

patent mountain
unique terrace
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It's not surprising no. But it's so so infuriating

vapid nova
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imagine we provided people with context before they sign up for ptsd speedruns in exchange for free college

wide pawn
unique terrace
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that's not going to end well

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it's a public utility

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people depend on the postal service to live in remote areas

cedar wharf
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Whoa . Someone tried to kill the “your body my choice” guy last night

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If only…

wide pawn
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You mean the Nazi?

cedar wharf
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Yeah.

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He has a door ring video of the guy showing up with a gun and crossbow. The police chased the guy and killed him

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He shot two dogs first, breaking into someone’s home while trying to escape

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No sympathy for the nazi but Crazy stuff

patent mountain
cedar wharf
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He has to move and pay lots of money for security now 💀

patent mountain
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“You can give me your card but I’m not giving you an interview “ he says to the cops HE called for help 🤪

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Freedom of speech is a pleaded excuse at the absence of freedom of thought.

cedar wharf
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Something his detractors use against him, and he admitted it

patent mountain
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if I regarded myself as a “high profile vlogger” or something, and lived with my mom, id be like a little more considerate?

patent mountain
cedar wharf
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A lot of Nazis don’t like him, so they’ll use that against him

patent mountain
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Really just feels like he forgot that freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consequence

sharp marsh
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yap

hallow epoch
wide pawn
cedar wharf
unique terrace
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I don't think that anybody should be surprised that people are responding to political and corporate violence with literal violence.

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when you enshrine violence toward a group in law or policy, they're going to fight back and it's really difficult to do that with just words and protest nowadays without getting put in jail (see delay deny depose lady in florida https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czenlg5d5rjo)

sinful forge
rapid turtle
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Omg supports gathered outside the court where they were putting him on trial

sinful forge
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not the entire nypd💀

flat coral
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why does this guy have more security than like. school shooters

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don’t get me wrong murder is murder but like it’s weird

hallow epoch
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Cuz they are tryna make an example of him but are failing miserably

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They care more about the interest of major ceos than the common kid/person

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Gov and major leaders of this country are pissed that this event is essentially uniting the working class a bit

dim kindle
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We should rise up already we are bigger then the us army

dim kindle
cedar wharf
dim kindle
dim kindle
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People are idiots i swear

dapper sail
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"Your body, my choice" ain't no way bro isn't rage baiting with some of the things he says

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Maybe if we ignore him, he'll go away right?

cedar wharf
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People can’t do that, unfortunately.