US Politics

[wintry remnant]

I will assume 74.22 million people are

Cause they were fine with it then

The party politics is clear

[dapper sail]

Look, I didn't mean to come off as aggressive, I just find it really difficult to see 74,223,975 people as radical racists

I'm friends with a republican who doesn't support white supremacy at all. I find it extremely difficult to assume that about all Republicans

If we judged based on extremists, Republicans would be calling democrats vile things like creeps (the P word more specifically)

Which is obviously not true

I just don't have it in me to assume things like that about people. This is where I definitely don't lean nearly as left as many of you here

[wintry remnant]

hey buddy

guess which side

has so many people literally in the party

being accused and charged for that P word

[dapper sail]

Assuming we're talking about that right P word, anyone who's convicted of that, any normal person regardless of politics would condemn them in a heartbeat

With Trump its complicated cause he's never technically had any genuine charges, most of the allegations were considered false except for the Jean Carrol one which was a civil case

[wintry remnant]

Oh so like

[dapper sail]

Whos that

[wintry remnant]

If it's not proven in court, that's the standard?

Trump, the guy who said on tape "Just grab em by the pussy" at Miss USA. Yeah, sure.

Oh, him?

That's Florida Representative Matt Gaetz

He may or may not have trafficked minors

[dapper sail]

Well, I mean how else can you truly know if its true or not? Anyone can make up sexual allegations about someone to try and ruin people's lives. Sexual allegations were thrown on a democrat running against Chuck Grassley and then after the election ended, nobody said a word about it

[dapper sail]

Please tell me they're arrested

[wintry remnant]

lmao no

[wintry remnant]

Does this say "former"?

[dapper sail]

So I looked it up, apparently there wasn't enough evidence to prove he was guilty of sex trafficking

[wintry remnant]

Eh, his own party hates him now too. He's just riding the inertia of have an (R) next to his name.

[dapper sail]

Now does this mean he's 100% innocent? Not necessarily. Definitely extremely concerning though

[wintry remnant]

it wasn't proven in court so it didn't happen, i mean how else can you truly know if its true or not? Anyone can make up sexual allegations about someone to try and ruin people's lives

[dapper sail]

Thats good, nobody like that whom may have convicted a crime like that doesn't deserve to be liked by Republicans

[wintry remnant]

Oh no lmao

You think the GOP hates him cause of the trafficking stuff?

No

He tried to remove McCarthy as Speaker

[dapper sail]

Thats the difficult part, its up to speculation cause legally they were innocent in the court of law but there's been cases of people getting away with crimes because they were proven innocent

[dapper sail]

Interesting, my assumption is that since he was proven innocent, they believe he's truly innocent

[wintry remnant]

lmao nah they dont give a shit about that stuff

I mean they nominated a fuckin' rapist for the office of President three separate times

Release the Epstein client list my ass lmao

[dapper sail]

Yeah the RNC needs to stay away from Trump

Its not gonna get them anywhere but deeper in a hole

[wintry remnant]

Anyway, the reason Matt Gaetz is hated in his own party is cause the GOP had a House majority at the time but the more extreme subset within the House which Gaetz was a part of didn't want to pass a compromise appropriations bill cause they didn't want to work with the Dems at all. It got to the point where Gaetz wanted to remove by vote to vacate the seat of the Speaker which actually fucking worked and then there was like a two week period of just failing to elect a new speaker

Funniest shit of all time. The GOP couldn't even control a house of which they held a majority in.

[dapper sail]

Trump hasn't necessarily been convicted of a sexual crime however the civil case against Jean Carroll should've been enough to definitely be concerning to the RNC

[wintry remnant]

Peak comedy.

[dapper sail]

Trump has faced numerous allegations but the only one that went to court is Jean Carroll that was a civil court

[wintry remnant]

but they weren't concerned so that tells you enough about their values. And when people vote, that also tells them about their values.

So

[dapper sail]

In that case, thank goodness my values dont align with Trump. They don't align with him anymore cause I didn't vote him

In terms of the policies from ISideWith, I could equally agree and disagree with Trump and Kamala so it came down to mannerisms and Kamala wins that so had to go with her

[wintry remnant]

When I look at someone straight in the eye and say "Did you vote for this man that has done, said he would do, and said he will do all these things?," you best believe I'm not gonna believe the bullshit when they say "I'm not racist. I'm not transphobic. I'm not homophobic." cause clearly, they don't put their money where their mouth is.

Remember that the attendant at Arlington did not want to press charges against Trump despite being allegedly assaulted for fear of their safety from violence from Trump supporters.

[dapper sail]

First im hearing of this, tell me more

[wintry remnant]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/army-releases-report-trump-campaign-incident-arlington-cemetery-rcna23566

And who best knows the wrath of a Trump scorned than his very own Vice President

You probably shouldn't let your judgement of Trump being "Oh, only one case made it to court" where it seems that Trump supporters were willing to hang a Vice President inside the Capitol building, an army official at Arlington National Cemetery wants to be hidden from their wrath, and that the judge at Trump v New York case had to be extremely direct to news outlets and security that the jurors' identities in People of the State of New York v. Trump should be hidden as much as humanly possible

And even focusing on just E. Jean Carroll herself, imagine the amount of shit you have to go through if you want to fight a former goddamn President with a cultiest of personalities as Donald Trump

Literally who would want to go through that hell

Trump not only committed sexual abuse, he also --as a matter of legal fact-- defamed her. And then defamed her a second fucking time after losing the first case.

[placid jacinth]

This shit sickens and twists my stomach in knots. Makes me wanna puke.

[weary coral]

That’s a very large stretch
Some people just internally contradict themselves
Like: if Harris wins I won’t trust the elections, but if Trump wins I will trust it

Sure, lots will be racist, anti-lots of things

[wintry remnant]

I think people, especially those who vote for Trump, don't look inwards enough to see their own personal prejudices

If you vote for someone that is just so overtly All Of That Stuff, you might as well also be All Of That Stuff.

[weary coral]

Agree
But you won’t win arguments by calling millions of people ‘white supremacists’

You can say ‘xyz person in power has said some things which are very white-supremacist like’

But you have to realise that lots of voters are too silly/naive to realise that about their cult

[wintry remnant]

I'll leave it to people with modicums of patience to do all that

Cause, frankly, it's exhausting, tiring, and infuriating that you have to performatively gentle-parent people who by all laws of probability want you off the face of the earth (or at least "their" country). That's not a personality matrix I belong to.

[vapid nova]

unrelated but related i literally was telling @unique terrace how modicum is my favorite word that speech to text can't understand

[wintry remnant]

I'm happy my vernacular can give you joy

[vapid nova]

to be specific I meant modicum of a brain cell

[open cosmos]

https://vxtwitter.com/KamalaHQ/status/1850689141828190509

[hallow epoch]

Ok this is random to point out but i dont think you can call being racist as radical cuz like.. its been happening??? I could be wrong but i thought radical was like a word to define people who wanted change

[hallow epoch]

But like … they HAVE been calling democrats the p word- its like their #1 insult rn they use toward anyone who doesnt agree with then

[hallow epoch]

So are you just basically denying all the people who have come forward with allegations but cant go to court to prove it cuz its against someone who as A LOT of power and money??

[stoic lodge]

How long after elections do you think trumpers will leave their flags and banners up? Like a year? Do you think they will still be in in 2028 even if trump not running?

These people have tied their entire personalities to this man

[wintry remnant]

Shirts like these exist so

[vapid nova]

this sounds rude to send just a definition but im just stupid and this says it better than i personally could

so radical does work because its the extreme section of the party that is currently at the pulpit idk how to explain this best "The 2022 elections offered some of the strongest evidence that Trump was a movement president rather than a party leader. His inclination to back a MAGA foot soldier who embraces his grievances and election lies reveals his priorities; he’s more intent on channeling the energies of his far-right base than appealing to swing voters or even party regulars."

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/18/donald-trump-paradox-gop-00097458

[hallow epoch]

Im gonna rip my parents signs out of our yard as soon as election is over

[hallow epoch]

No ur good! I wasnt sure so i was kinda asking

[sonic wedge]

it's not assuming all the individuals are white supremacists, it's the idea that the party itself is rooted in white supremacy, and if you support it you are kinda enabling the behaviour. if someone like trump is the candidate, and you are still a DIEHARD republican, then to me, that means you excuse his behaviour and actions

[wintry remnant]

If 73.5 million people are giving the 500 thousand white supremacists a pass, then I'm not looking at 500 thousand white supremacists. I'm looking at 74 million.

[unique terrace]

First they came for the communists...
Everyone has to use every opportunity to speak up or there will be no one left.

If that means turning on your party for the greater good, then you have to do it.

Hell, the writer of that poem used to be a nazi sympathizer and antisemite. He changed his tune when he realized that discrimination is bad for everyone because anyone can be a victim at any time for any reason.

[stoic lodge]

Gonna drop off my ballot tomorrow

[unique terrace]

YES. VOTE

[muted meadow]

Okay so, I'm not a US Citizen or old enough to vote, so, I hope y'all are voting Kamala

[stoic lodge]

I am

[hallow epoch]

I am- voting is still crazy at my place of work so ima just vote at the court house it would prob take less time to do

[dapper sail]

Radical means over the top. My point is that supporting the republican party just cause there are white supremacists in the party doesn't mean that's all Republicans nor does that mean your average republican supports white supremacy.

That's like me saying all democrats are creeps when that's obviously not true at all. I've interacted with democrats irl whom were assholes but does that make every democrat an asshole? No.

You can't generalize an entire party based on extremists. Neither can you do that with religion, etc. It's extremely ignorant

[dapper sail]

But yeah I voted Kamala

The DNC were huge supporters of slavery and then segregation a long time ago. Does this mean I get to keep generalizing them from things that happened decades ago? No. Its not how that works. They're not like that anymore

I get most of you despise the republican party but why does having a different opinion infuriate you? Why does someone disagreeing with you and voting differently than you assume they're voting for white supremacy?

You're pointing out individual cases of people that just so happen to have a giant R next to their name that did something shitty and assume that every republican is like that

[open cosmos]

https://vxtwitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/1850954801896464683

[dapper sail]

Damn that's messed up

[unique terrace]

It's a fucking cult

They harassed voters last election too

Both things are illegal

[open cosmos]

They base their entire personality around MAGA and trump lol

They see him as some sort of reincarnation of Jesus

[vapid nova]

https://katu.com/news/local/vancouver-ballot-box-seen-smoking-same-morning-as-portland-ballot-box-arson

[dapper sail]

Anyone who acts like that should easily be condemned but I've had conversations with normal Trump voters and they don't encourage that behavior either

Its all about the person, not whom they're voting for. We aren't in 1930s Germany. This is 2024 USA.

I hate Trump don't get me wrong, never will I ever vote him again but I will always find the benefit of the doubt just due to how terrible Biden was while gaslighting the American people saying everything's okay

Knowing Kamala has that connection and influence to Biden, you kind of see why people don't want to associate with Kamala

Now I know Kamala doesn't have that much power as VP but she did have influence which is why people assume that she has as much power as the president

I'd imagine Kamala taking on big tasks knowing Biden continues rapidly taking a massive cognitive decline but I'll still vote for her cause I hate Trump's mannerisms while their policies between the two I can agree and disagree equally

[open cosmos]

Trump Is 1000x worse than biden

[hallow epoch]

You say that but whenever has those groups of people EVER given people like me grace? NEVER

Why should i give the gentleness to them when if given the chance people like them wont hesitate to put a bullet in my back or head

My own father is so quick to damn me to hell bc i dont believe in the same things as him

Im sick and tired of being the one told that I have try and extend an olive branch that I have to be the one thats respectful FUCK THAT why dont THEY try first?!? After all the shit they’ve done

[vapid nova]

you can't seriously believe this im sorry

i mean you definitely do but oh my g-d. do you really think kamala harris is doing joe biden's job in office I mean please please consider how that isn't happening

[stoic lodge]

That's what people claim

[wide pawn]

Biden is definitely doing more of his own work. He does a lot more than people realize

[stoic lodge]

Why didn't kamala do all this stuff she's promising?

She had 4 years to do it!!!

[vapid nova]

just like do we not all understand how illegal that is and how the other times this probably happened to a president THEY HAD LIKE genuinely diagnosed FATAL deeply progressed diseases. they could not make quick jokes or remarks or even walk y'all. FDR only left office cause he.. DIED. Joe Biden is not on his freaking death bed for christs sake

[forest heron]

do people not realize what the vice president means

[wide pawn]

Harris was the tie breaker for the first term because it was 50/50 in the senate, so she really didn't have as much time. She had to be on stand by, because that's one of her 2 constitutional duties

[vapid nova]

or wilson who well... HAD A STROKE so obviously couldn't do his job. Joe Biden is not incapacitated I need everyone to understand that his mental state if its at any degenerative disease is in VERY VERY early stages so he is definitely capable of making decisions for the remainder of his term lol

[forest heron]

the best way I’ve heard the vice president described as is an assistant coach

they’re there with the coach watching over their decisions and being there for all the games, but they don’t actually call the shots for the team by themselves

the coach—or the President—does that

[vapid nova]

I just need you all to understand that dementia and alzheimer's are very serious diseases that are brutual for not only the person affected but also their loved ones to watch. And to use them as a gotcha political tool is gross. I hope you never have a loved one who suffers from these diseases because its painful

cognitive decline is not fast its slow thats part of why its so painful

[forest heron]

it’s also important to note that Biden himself dropped out on his own terms
that wasn’t a move by any other official but him, although he may have been influenced by several discussions about his debate performance the day before

he still has strong enough cognitive abilities to know his place, and to know who would be better suited for it in this election

I’d argue Trump’s cognitive decline is going by even faster than Biden’s (“they’re eating the dogs”, etc.), but he’s still technically able to run for and be elected as President

[unique terrace]

He's become the very demographic he's been targeting with his ad campaigns.

[forest heron]

exactly

and the entire Republican Party (or, at least the MAGA Republican Party) has seemingly followed Trump’s decline without even questioning the words coming out of his or their mouths

[unique terrace]

They're chosing party and power above reason and the wellbeing of the country.

[forest heron]

And they’re not even going after the right power

The goal of a campaign in an election like this is to get the power of the voters on their side, and Trump’s party isn’t pulling as much power as the Democratic Party

They’re going after the power to control the people instead of the power to appeal to the people

[unique terrace]

I mean, that's exactly what they want...

[forest heron]

Fair, so I guess they’re doing what they’re trying to do successfully ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unique terrace]

Like, they're literal fascists at this point.

[forest heron]

But it’s still not the right power to strive for

[unique terrace]

It's not right, but they don't care about what's right. They care about amassing power for themselves.

[forest heron]

Literally 😭 like do we need to have a nationwide history class on World War II and the definition of fascism as it relates to world powers

[unique terrace]

The teachers are trying. I promise.

[forest heron]

Fun fact- my school introduced a World War II full semester class this year

[unique terrace]

It's more relevant than ever

[forest heron]

I would’ve taken it if it were college level (more so for college credit and weighted GPA than expansion on class material, but that certainly helps too), but I don’t doubt a college is offering a class similar that I could take

The WWII class is aimed toward Seniors who are bundling another history class with personal finance and are looking to study a more in-depth course

[hallow epoch]

Yea im feeling that my grandma is slowly losing her memory and developing dementia it sucks cuz she forgot my name once

[forest heron]

but I feel like generally a WWII class before voting age or being shipped off to college should be a class offered—or required through history curriculum requirements—for high schools

[vapid nova]

mine had it most of my life then died when i was 15 she didn’t really talk for most of the time i knew her

[forest heron]

It’s concerning how people are turning to fascism here in the U.S. like people did in Italy and Germany when their countries were in poor condition

[vapid nova]

*still are unfortunately

[forest heron]

Jesus

[vapid nova]

italy has been having a problem with fascism

[unique terrace]

people turn to fascism in times of crisis.

[unique terrace]

You have a lot of people disillusioned with the state of our country with vastly different ideas on how to fix it.

[forest heron]

This election is probably one of the most important elections in U.S. history, and could determine the fate of democracy and human rights in the country

I really hope more people take it as seriously as they should

Project 2025 is no joke, it’s bad

I’ve seen people memeing on some of the aspects of it, and tbf they’re laughable. But it’s scary to think it could actually happen

[unique terrace]

Just for reference: Here's part of the encyclopedia entry for fascism:

See if you can fill in the blanks for the US in particular.

[forest heron]

Oh god I can see so many things-

This is scary 😨

[stoic lodge]

Yes you have free speech but you are not free from consequences of your speech!

[hallow epoch]

Very scary times rn

[forest heron]

ok but free speech is supposed to allow people to say whatever they want about the government, for or against

If things go the way I’m worried they could go, that could be taken away

and that is part of the very first amendment to the U.S. constitution

[stoic lodge]

Speaking at a rally at Madison Square Garden on Sunday, Trump seemed to tell his fans that he and the Republican House speaker have a plan to make sure that Republicans clinch victory in the House and the presidential election.

“I think with our little secret we are gonna do really well with the House, right? Our little secret is having a big impact,” Trump said, before claiming he’d only reveal the secret after the election.

Though it’s unclear exactly what the plan may be, the implication is not subtle: Johnson is ready to help Trump win the election. As Politico noted, these “sinister comments … could be a reference to the House settling a contested election.”

[vapid nova]

yeah cause you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater rules

[wide pawn]

Yeah they're the anti-democracy party. This is why we must win the house.

[wintry remnant]

Isn't the House also like a dead heat?

Cause if the Trump election denial is strong enough, the House elects the President

Oh wait but it'd be the current house which has a Republican majority

[stoic lodge]

Yeah it's corrupt as shit

[cold bane]

I’m sorry but this is just straight up weird

[wide pawn]

No it would be the new elected house

They take office January 3rd, they certify January 6th

[wintry remnant]

Ah, interesting

[vale grove]

it’s going to be a wild ride probably for the house because how indecisive they are about a speaker (depends on who wins the house)

[bleak thunder]

Interesting but today I got a text from a spam number saying something about supporting Kamala through donations, but it also mentioned Taylor swift. Did anyone else get something like this?

[rapid turtle]

No

Also next week is going to be interesting.

[marsh panther]

you say interesting

i say stressful

[rapid turtle]

That too.

[marsh panther]

at this point it's like i already voted so nothing i can do except wait for next week

[rapid turtle]

My college literally has a post de stress wobbles and crafts thing on Thursday next week

[rapid turtle]

Same

[wintry remnant]

It's so fun that like the main talking points of the Trump campaign on an economic level both trigger 2008-level crises

Mass deportation or 200% tarriffs

Pick your poison, my dudes

[wide pawn]

I feel better about the House than the Senate but for the purpose of peaceful transfer of power the House is more important.
The House also has subpoena powers, so they can reopen the January 6th committee

[open cosmos]

https://vxtwitter.com/Acyn/status/1851010423098917078

[open cosmos]

https://x.com/Timodc/status/1850879229203804584

Tim Miller (@Timodc) on X

Elon’s PAC is running this teenaged boy level message about how Kamala is a “c-word”

Twitter · Oct 28, 2024, 12:36 PM

[forest heron]

Now what words all start with c since they refused to elaborate

Hmm…

Campaigner? Caretaker? Catalyst? Champion?

There are a lot of c-words out there

obviously we know the one they meant to allude to 🙄

but they didn’t say that specifically

[hallow epoch]

I want this man dead my god is he AWFUL

[hidden dragon]

C WoRd oOoOoo

Nah but my school had a mock election and these knowledgeably challenged kids voted for trump as a joke

no hate to them but THIS years election isn’t rly a thing to joke abt in that sense 😭

[wide pawn]

Imagine being a woman and imagine voting for this

[desert temple]

https://fixupx.com/KamalaHarris/status/1851293511213085176

crazy 🥲

[wide pawn]

Nice

[stoic lodge]

Let's go harris walz

[wide pawn]

I'm going to the Madison rally tomorrow

Aaron Dessner will be there!!! And Gracie Abrams!

[vapid nova]

this makes me feel insane because my childhood mock election was McCain vs Obama

[noble flame]

https://x.com/susielujano/status/1850997285699637382?s=46

This guy is mentally ill,

susie (@susielujano) on X

That racist comedian’s jokes were so disgustingly racist and vile that the #swifties haven’t caught wind about the fact that he made a joke about Travis Kelce being the next OJ Simpson, implying he will k*ll Taylor Swift, and everyone laughed.

Twitter · Oct 28, 2024, 8:25 PM

[open cosmos]

https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1851308109634973944

MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) on X

Elon Musk admits Trump's plans will collapse the U.S. economy, says that it's necessary for everyday Americans to experience "temporary hardship" https://t.co/gxfzFPXJyo

Twitter · Oct 29, 2024, 5:00 PM

[hallow epoch]

WHY DOESNT HE EXPERIENCE HARDSHIPS THEN?? WHAT THE FUCK he gets to sit on his ass everyday doing nothing BUT WE HAVE TO SUFFER???

[open cosmos]

All Republicans care about is making themselves richer and making everyone else suffer

[hallow epoch]

My parents are also of the mindset that cuz they suffered growing up why shouldnt everyone else

[stoic lodge]

Feaking boomers

[hallow epoch]

More like freaking gen Xers cuz they’re the real problem these days

[desert temple]

what a clown

[forest heron]

temporary hardship
as if it isn’t happening right now

[rapid turtle]

I just saw a thing that said Trump was leading. (Not sure how true it was)

[open cosmos]

Considering they're burning ballot boxes it's likely they are losing

[desert temple]

dont trust the polls vote!

[wide pawn]

Polls have gotten it so wrong many times before

Something interesting I found out tho. There was a very consistent pattern of polling error for the last 50 years. 1 left swing polling error followed by 2 right swing polling errors. The last 2 were right swing errors, so if the pattern holds, we're in for a left swing error

Based on the stuff I'm seeing, I'm highly expecting Harris to be underestimated

Some of these cross tabs have Harris winning the senior vote!

Shed be the first democrat in decades to win them. She's gained on some of the largest voting groups in the country.

They're making guesses this year for their polling. And the cross tabs by and large make no sense

[vague canopy]

especially because polls are biased and generally dont account for a particular party

a couple of my teachers (dems) said they dont know anyone who has been called for polls, and i dont know a single person either and i live in a majority democratic city

[wide pawn]

I've only been polled once for a primary

[desert temple]

That rally in DC is huge!

[somber thunder]

Has it already started?

[desert temple]

Soon i think

[stoic lodge]

Nice

[hallow epoch]

Ive never been polled

Not that i answer the door to strangers anyway

[desert temple]

This speech is so good

Compared to whatever sunday in NY was

[bleak thunder]

I still don’t understand HOW and WHY people actually support trump 😭

[left river]

Some trump supporter on tik tok said “she’s fighting for nothing” 💀😭

like these people are actually brainwashed

and it’s scary that they can vote

[bleak thunder]

What does he even do that’s good tho

[stoic lodge]

Brain worms

And racism

[bleak thunder]

Anyone who votes for trump is a foolish one

[stoic lodge]

Big dumb

[bleak thunder]

Fr

[stoic lodge]

ESPECIALLY at this point. I can maybe give a pass the first time

The few know who voted for him first time didn't vote for him second time. And not the third time

[bleak thunder]

Yea

[wide pawn]

Over 75,000 people!!

[open cosmos]

https://vxtwitter.com/KamalaHQ/status/1851353676423598573

Imagine being this dumb lol

Like you know people don't like your ass backwards policies so you wanna make it so that only you'll win by having less people voting overall since they're voting against you to begin with

[desert temple]

Wow what a dipshit

[desert temple]

Most of them are poorly educated/believe anything trump says is true before doing research first about what he's saying 🤷‍♂️

[wide pawn]

Its not surprised Trump has lost a lot of support among women

[bleak thunder]

💀

[open cosmos]

I mean yeah trumpanzees lack critical thinking lol

[bleak thunder]

nice name

[stoic lodge]

💀

[open cosmos]

https://fxtwitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1850204637774622938

[wide pawn]

Obama 08 vibes

[desert temple]

sounds sexist to me (but believe what you want to believe i guess)

[hallow epoch]

How about you try and take it from me and see what happens

[nimble furnace]

WHAT.

[open cosmos]

Yeah right wingers have this weird obsession with repealing women being able to vote

Cause they know that women are against their terrible policies

[vague canopy]

thats bc it is sexist 😭

[wide pawn]

George Bush's daughter Barbara endorsed Harris

She didn't only endorse her. She's knocking on doors in Pennsylvania for her

[rapid turtle]

Wait which bush?

[wide knoll]

Bush Junior

[rapid turtle]

Ah. Good for her

[naive robin]

'christians' using religion as an excuse to hide from their misogynist and sexist selves and you wonder why people don't take them seriously

[noble flame]

Religion should stay away from politics. Either that or we tax the church. Especially after some have 12 private jets because flying commercial is akin to flying with the devil.

[desert temple]

https://fixupx.com/maddenifico/status/1851462319865286789 😭

[sonic wedge]

i unironically adore kamala as a person

[desert temple]

https://fixupx.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1851627802027758005 💪🏻

[wide pawn]

We got the terminator!

[hallow epoch]

Damn man that was tough!

[desert temple]

A TRUE PATRIOT!

[rapid turtle]

He was a governor??

[true swift]

Yep

[stoic lodge]

Why did biden have to go an say that. Don't give trump anything

(Even though he's right)

Without any evidence, the former president accused the entire state of Pennsylvania of cheating in the 2024 election. He offered no explanation as to why he thinks voters are cheating while calling on law enforcement to intervene.

[desert temple]

his team probably told him they are losing Pennsylvania

[stoic lodge]

That'll happen when you offend a large number of Puerto Rican and Latino voters in a swing state

[wide pawn]

I'm kinda unconvinced the Puerto Rico joke made a big difference

Mostly because nothing this man has said has made a big difference

[stoic lodge]

This close to election, when other gop leaders are condemning it

[wide pawn]

I guess we'll see in a week what the effect really was

[stoic lodge]

Yes

JD Vance Offended by Biden a Day After Complaining About Americans Getting Offended

[desert temple]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[weary coral]

The fact that you have to say ‘this is not xyz’ makes me think that is it xyz!

[open cosmos]

yeah lol

Also ew

Buzz aldrin had endorsed trump and is voting for him

[stoic lodge]

wtf did the brain worms get to him too

How you gonna support the party of moon landing deniers

[hallow epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/vine-so-no-head-angry-mad-throw-phone-gif-16162067

[noble flame]

Both parties have access to internal polling data that we don’t have. They have access to much more data than we do as well. This data is often shared with surrogates too, like Soros (who the right hate) and Musk (who is the right wing Soros now) and this allows them to leverage the markets and such, to the stories I’ve listened to. Both sides have access to more data on early voting. Some states release it to party affiliation, some (Georgia) don’t to the public. I think he knows he is fighting a loosing battle so far. He will be laying the groundwork to cast doubt on the result and try a Contingent Election. He and MAGA Mike (House Speaker) have allegedly got this as a plan.

A contingent election is when you can get the senators and representatives in both elect him, or send it back to the states for 72 hours, then elect him. It’s scary stuff.

[hallow epoch]

Gonna stand in line to vote at work i have a few minutes to spare and the line doesnt look so long so 🤞🏻

[hallow epoch]

Voted!!!

[hallow epoch]

I cant post my sticker cuz it has my city on it lol

[clear lantern]

This is kind of politically related- did you guys hear about what the city of New Orleans and Taylor did to the homeless before her shows?

[hallow epoch]

No? Did she donate something?

[weary coral]

Yeah, and also raised multiple 10’s of millions iirc

[hallow epoch]

Whats iirc

But wicked!

[weary coral]

If I remember correctly

Damn, no one gets the acronym
I’m pretty sure it’s common

[noble flame]

Same as Edinburgh? Move them off the streets, and move them into a hotel in Dunfermline? It wouldn’t be Taylor, it would be the Council or local authority. Edinburgh Council and Police Scotland issued a dispersal notice for a Fortnight when Taylor was here. As is the law here in Scotland.

[unique terrace]

why are we talking about soros in a legitimate discussion on polling data? didn’t know you were into conspiracy theories like that.

[vapid nova]

so this is like actually not how this works. and also comparing musk to soros is weird thats weird. polling data is public and this is not a space for conspiracy theories. what and i mean this seriously is the weird obsession with soros because it feels rooted in something more sinister. george soros does not run the american government so please examine why you feel the need

he's literally a 94 year old man who while incredibly wealthy seems to support causes he cares about

also using musk as the comparison as if the koch brothers don't exist weirdo

[clear lantern]

Unfortunately it wasn't that civil. They straight up destroyed their belongings and just told them to move. Came in with bulldozers and everything, they didn't even have warning. I'm not saying Taylor was at fault here , but it makes me sad that she didn't say anything.

https://lailluminator.com/2024/10/26/homeless-new-orleans/

[noble flame]

I was under the illusion that there was private polls that the parties ran for internal purposes.

Maybe my analogy of bringing Soros into the conversation was crass, and may show a that I may be ignorant in some way. I’m happy to admit I’m wrong on that one. Especially when I have done my research on the Koch Brothers.

I’m happy to admit I’m wrong, and am willing to be stood corrected.

[noble flame]

That’s just ugly, totally wrong, and evil.

[desert temple]

https://fixupx.com/yashar/status/1851694289308594277 😭

[hallow epoch]

God i hate the government

[stoic lodge]

Damn

[clear lantern]

So do I. I'm hoping Harris will be our next president, I can't handle this shit anymore

[hallow epoch]

If she isnt our next president i think our lives are fucking over as we know it

[wide pawn]

Hopefully MAGA doesn't takeover the peaceful transfer of power

This is also why downballot races are important. Vote if you're in a swing state. Vote if you're in a red of blue state. WE NEED TO TAKE THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

We don't want Johnson overseeing the certification on January 6th

[placid jacinth]

My step dad voted today for Kamala !

W step dad can’t lie

[wide pawn]

My step dad is a trumper. Can't relate 🥲

[weary coral]

No way lol

[unique terrace]

ugh. mine too. he's an incredibly nice guy, he's just been brainwashed by right wing news outlets to not trust anything from mainstream news.

[open cosmos]

Right wingers are so Unhinged lol

[hallow epoch]

My own parents are trumpers 😭

[hallow epoch]

This shit makes me so made

Its really feels like the last few decades of progress have been pushed back so much when i hear people say shit like that

[sonic wedge]

what is soros?

[unique terrace]

George Soros. He's just a dude. He's a hedge fund manager.

He's contributed to a lot of presidential campaigns, but there are some antisemetic and islamophobic conspiracy theores about him.

[stoic lodge]

“I must’ve been the first one, I followed that storm right in,” the former president said. “I saw the devastation, it was a travesty, it was viscous, it was water. The water was the worst we’d ever seen. It was a water hurricane, that’s what it was.”

[wide pawn]

Just saw Gracie Abrams at the Kamala rally 🥰

[nimble furnace]

who is predicted to win the election rn?

[hallow epoch]

Me when i need to hit word count on an essay

[wide knoll]

it's VERY much a tossup

[stoic lodge]

Don't be like Trump 💀

[wide pawn]

According to Allan Lichtman and several models, either Harris or tossup

The S&P economic model was accurate 83% of the time, says Harris will win

[hallow epoch]

Im not im just making a joke that people usually make to make fun of politicians

[vague canopy]

aint no way

how can he vote for someone who denies what his lifetime feat was

[stoic lodge]

I said the same thing

[wintry remnant]

There goes my respect for Buzz Aldrin

[vague canopy]

i see that now

[vague canopy]

fr

i thought he was better than this smh

[marsh panther]

https://vxtwitter.com/atrupar/status/1851778142580384209

well that's not totally concerning at all

[rapid turtle]

Better or worse than concepts of a plan? (I'm kidding of course. That's way worse)

[honest beacon]

Just saw a comment of what I’m assuming is a Trump voter and a swiftie say “we can have our differences, vote separately and still love eacht other ❤️” I’m sorry but no we can’t, because at this point you’re voting for people who want to eradicate my existence and you shouldn’t be allowed to cope into thinking you can do that without any consequence

[wide pawn]

Yeah, it's one thing if our only disagreement is on taxes or something. But we're talking about someone who wants to punish parents of trans children just for supporting their kids. Separating families and deporting people who have been here for decades simply for being undocumented (this happened in his first term! There's videos of kids crying because their parents got deported!) We're talking about someone who's own chief of staff called him a power hungry fascist who praised Hitler.

Idk about you, but I'm feeling anti-Nazi

[naive robin]

shouldve stayed on the moon

[vapid nova]

btw he’s a holocaust survivor

[weary coral]

His deportation shite means that even families who are in the US legally would be separated

It’s ridiculous
Further highlighted by the clarity of
‘America is for Americans only’
Great! That makes 0 sense

[open cosmos]

https://fxtwitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1851798418961895736

Fuckin yikes

[unique terrace]

This is hellworld.

[hallow epoch]

Why is this man NOT IN JAIL YET oh yea he super rich and can buy his way out

[vapid nova]

literally just a rich progressive dude which sounds like an oxymoron

like this metric is insane

[desert temple]

https://fixupx.com/DanteAtkins/status/1851776272734593453

what a crybaby

[unique terrace]

If your husband votes against your physical wellbeing, divorce.

[desert temple]

Madonna endorsed Harris!

[wide pawn]

Omg, women in relationships should have freedom to vote the way they want without a husband controlling it? 😱

[hallow epoch]

The ad that im usually getting is “this is a va election alert- who you vote for is private but whether you vote is public” nothing about women are mentions

[wide pawn]

There's lots of women who lie to their spouse about voting for Trump

I've heard some callers hear their husbands insist there's no democrats in the house when it's the wife who's likely to vote for Harris

I've also heard a woman tell canvassers to leave because she's voting Harris but doesn't want her husband to know

[hallow epoch]

No i agree- i was just pointing out that i havent specifically gotten an ad targeted towards women

[wide pawn]

I've seen stuff on social media but probably not official campaign sponsored ads

[hallow epoch]

Im only on youtube and i get like the same 3 damn ads back to back

[wide pawn]

I always recommend hiding campaign ads for Harris but letting Trump ads play. Saves Harris campaigns money but costs Trump slightly more

[desert temple]

https://fixupx.com/DisavowTrump20/status/1851816737320128600 NOT CONFIRMED

holy shit

[wide pawn]

This would be so great. She's from PA!

But I'll believe it when I see it because you know

[marsh panther]

it is worth noting after this weekend she has a week break from tour and goes into canada next

but who knows

[noble flame]

I have theorised of this to my dad. They should just have done it at the Lincoln Financial Field.

Interesting thing is, go to The Lincoln Financial Field on Google Maps, guess whose stage is there???

[flat coral]

my entire twitter feed is elon musk and right wing shit

i don’t follow any of these accounts

this has to be considered some type of election interference 😭

[desert temple]

Twitter has become worse since Elon bought it

Nobody that i know calls it X 😹

[weary coral]

Remember, it’s only election interference when the Dems are doing something, and not when Elon’s giving out millions of dollars to voters

/s btw

[wide pawn]

He hasn't actually paid anyone, and it's seemingly unlikely because he's getting in trouble for it because it's illegal

[rapid turtle]

Who?

[wide pawn]

Elon

[rapid turtle]

Ah. If it was Trump I was going to say he's already a felon

[flat coral]

what’s the chance that biden’s garbage comment and trump’s whole garbageman thing is gonna impact the election in any meaningful way

[wide pawn]

Basically 0

They're trying so hard to make it into Hillary's deplorable comment. But like... he's not the nominee. It's very public knowledge he was pressured to drop out because he makes so many gaffes

Plus Harris already publicly disagreed with it

[flat coral]

very stupid move by biden even if i agree with it 😭😭

[wide pawn]

Yeah idk, in a way it just reminds people that they called Puerto Rico garbage

[flat coral]

this might be the corniest thing ive ever seen

[desert temple]

As if Trump didn't say so much more worse things 😭

[wide pawn]

https://x.com/swannmarcus89/status/1852162800560246823?s=61

Swann Marcus (@SwannMarcus89) on X

This story is literally about Tim Walz saving a troubled young man's life through the power of sports

I am not kidding

Twitter · Nov 1, 2024, 1:36 AM

This is actually hilarious. Fox News can't find any dirt on Tim Walz so they're trying to twist a story about how he helped a young boy get off drugs and alcohol by playing sports

We need a coach in office fr

[noble flame]

My FYP is also full of it. I follow Musk, just to see what spiral he is going down. I’ve noticed that on Twitter, after every 3 refresh attempts it goes to the FYP for me.

[desert temple]

what a disgusting human being is Trump they found more evidence of him being friends with Epstein...

[vapid nova]

considering a lot of people already voted before those comments

[left river]

Why am I scared that election is literally 4 days away

[hallow epoch]

Im scared but also just want it to be over

[marsh panther]

For me I'm trying not to stress too much about it like I already voted there's nothing else I can do

I did my part I just hope everyone else does too

[noble flame]

Photos of Trump with girls, topless, on his lap exist.

I’m getting more confident in Kamala winning. However that knot in my stomach is sickening. I can’t vote as I’m not an American, I’m thinking of this election tons. Even talking about it at work.

[rapid turtle]

ah my state blue yay

[west wharf]

None, because the truck was also right after trump's horrid rally speaker made that racist Puerto Rico comment that everyone is associating him driving the garbage truck with.

I don't know what Biden said. I'm not the only one.

Just about everyone knows about tha5 rally.

[west wharf]

Link, please?
If you don't have one handy, I'll look it up. But I'm asking in case you do.

Also, the polls saying it's neck and neck?
Lying

[wide pawn]

I think the Puerto Rico comment is way worse than whatever Biden said

Bidens not the nominee, they're so desperate to make it into another Hillary Clinton Deplorables comment

[vague canopy]

what did biden say? my civics teacher said something abt it but didnt go into detail

[west wharf]

And it's more well-known to the public

[wide pawn]

In response to calling Puerto Rico garbage "the only garbage is his supporters" or something like that

[flat coral]

I honestly think it’s just the twitter shit getting to me

[wide pawn]

A gaffe comment for sure but also a nothing burger imo

[west wharf]

Which means that's what the public is associating Trump driving the garbage truck with.

It's more likely to make people not vote for Trump than to make them vote for him.

Though the truth is that it likely won't change anyone's vote either way

[flat coral]

It’s constantly giving me republicans all banding together against harris over the garbage commment

[wide pawn]

That's Elon's Twitter for you

[west wharf]

I think they're making fun of Trump behind his back by convincing him to do stupid stuff, at this point.

They know he's losing and they only really care about getting Vance in office anyway

[flat coral]

yup

[wide pawn]

Yeah they're gonna 25th amendment Trump as soon as he take takes office if he wins

They know he's unhinged and diabolical. They're scared of him just as much as democrats are

[marsh panther]

trumpers: "the liberals are trying to indoctrinate children!"

also trumpers: https://vxtwitter.com/GayLaVie/status/1852345999131345011?t=5KJISL-gA0IBFFcP3qXiFg&s=19

[vague canopy]

help why is this so funny 😭

it would be even funnier if they put it on the candy bars nobody likes like 100 grand and almond joy

[marsh panther]

100 grand is underrated

[vague canopy]

(no hate i love 100grand and almond joys)

fr just everyone i know either hates it or has never tried it

[marsh panther]

to me it's like

doing that is gross (the candy thing)

i saw another post but on tiktok of someone finding a trump sticker on their kid's candy

[forest heron]

I love almond joys 😭

If I see a single political ad covering up a piece of my previous candy I am burning someone’s house /j

[hallow epoch]

Omg hey girl heyyyy

[hallow epoch]

If i was trick or treating with my kid i would grab one for them and RIP off the stupid trump sticker and throw it back in their faces

[nimble furnace]

i’d take it but take off the trump sticker and give it back to the person giving them out

[wide pawn]

almond joys are lowkey so good

[hallow epoch]

Yea i would keep the candy

[rapid turtle]

How. Literally how. It's literally a federal holiday.

I know how it's just crazy that that happened

[wintry remnant]

I dont get it

[hallow epoch]

Wait what r u talking about i think ive lost context

[unique terrace]

that’s the terrifying part. Trump is not the scariest one on the ticket here.

[rapid turtle]

Yeah I wouldn't blame them.

[naive robin]

not sure if this is appropriate to ask but what is his context here😭
https://x.com/Tim_Walz/status/1852475325688730074?t=WLuOH2PBrs_bFr6KgS2T5Q&s=19

Tim Walz (@Tim_Walz) on X

Yesterday’s Wordle in 2.

That’s gotta be a sign, people.

Twitter · Nov 1, 2024, 10:18 PM

[desert temple]

no idea 😭

[vague canopy]

probably him saying that trump is weird for being against the community

i have no clue 😭😭

[marsh panther]

it's more so about how tim has been saying that republicans are weird etc

and the fact yesterday's wordle was the word weird in the lead up to the election is a "Sign"

as a bit/joke

[naive robin]

I thought it was something related to pride lmao

[vague canopy]

yeah me too-

and their aversion to the lgbtq+ community

[desert temple]

https://fixupx.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1852786081277575199

👏🏻

[wide pawn]

My friend canvassed in Trump county WI. He said he came across quite a few Republicans not voting for Trump

The polls are underestimating Harris

[desert temple]

that's for sure

[hallow epoch]

Im gonna actually cheer when harris is elected

[placid jacinth]

Learned earlier this week that my math teacher is also voting for Harris!

Glad to be surrounded by ppl who think like a human

[wide pawn]

Lots of teachers are voting for Harris. I can't imagine how anyone who values education would vote for Trump. His whole first term was focused on dismantling education. His second term would be that x100

He loves the poorly educated afterall

[placid jacinth]

“I don’t want a lying sack of garbage running our country” - my teachers words literally. Couldn’t have agreed more

[placid jacinth]

He doesn’t love anyone but just the idea of being a dictator

[wide pawn]

I really hope on Tuesday Harris doesn't just win, but wins big. We need to show MAGA that they're not a winning message. We need them to do some soul searching because they lost so badly.

[hallow epoch]

They need to be shoved down deep into the dirt

[placid jacinth]

Is it still looking like a close call?

Cause if so I doubt anything will change in how much of a margin she wins by

But maybe im wrong. Maybe a good portion of this country will suddenly go like “wow this man is ass! I’m voting Harris!”

[desert temple]

no way 😂

[placid jacinth]

Not surprised

Not one bit, they’ve predicted a lot. And this for sure is smth that will happen, Harris wining!

[desert temple]

Damn

[placid jacinth]

If she can win by a big margin to shut up maga that would be fantastic

Fabulous. So fabulous I would throw a party.

[desert temple]

i believe she will

polls are so weird rn

everyone is saying something different as usual

[placid jacinth]

There is no I hope she wins.. she HAS to win. Or else this country and the ppl in this country are far more than doomed. Not even that word does justice for how bad it would be if he won.

[hallow epoch]

God it sucks ass that my brother is running for school board here as a republican makes me hate him a lot

And tuesday they’re gonna have a watch party to see election results at my parents church which i also hate cuz they non stop spew evil ult right bullshit

I really hope he doesnt get elected and i really hope they get SO discourage when harris wins

[flat coral]

I might be a bit late to this but this is the best campaign ever 😭😭

[flat coral]

Harris up 3 points in Iowa in a new poll 😭

Same poll had Trump up 8 in 2020 from what i can tell

https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1852850826747793869?s=46

Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) on X

#New General election poll - Iowa

🔵 Harris 47% (+3)
🔴 Trump 44%

2020 - 🔴 Trump +8

Ann Saltzer #A - 800 LV - 11/1

Twitter · Nov 2, 2024, 11:10 PM

[wide pawn]

Ann Selzer is considered a god tier poll in Iowa

Apparently it's likely because Iowa banned abortion and women are pissed

Imagine Iowa being the tipping point state. Insane

[desert temple]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/kamala-harris-make-appearance-saturday-night-live-rcna178494

She's probably one of the most qualified candidates ever 😭

[naive robin]

honestly she might win in iowa if she hosts a rally there with walz

the election could actually be a blowout,, people are tired

[flat coral]

i feel like it might be but we still need to get out and vote

[open cosmos]

https://vxtwitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1852718650479759662

[naive robin]

dystopian

[oblique marsh]

need someone to examine this cause ITS IOWA.. AND IT SELZER AND CO (best pollster in iowa, predictions are spot on usually)

[wintry remnant]

Isn't Iowa like...+10 on Trump or something

Okay even Nate Silver is freaking out about it so

[flat coral]

Selzer has had insane accuracy in Iowa since 2012

Final Selzer poll findings (and the actual result)

2022 Senate: R+12 (R+12)
2020 President: R+7 (R+8)
2020 Senate: R+4 (R+7)
2018 Governor: D+2 (R+3)
2016 President: R+7 (R+9)
2014 Senate: R+7 (R+8)
2012 President: D+5 (D+6)

Stolen from Twitter

[wintry remnant]

What were the other pollsters saying at the time though

[flat coral]

I’m not sure but id guess most probably favor Trump

[somber thunder]

this is crazy 💀

[wintry remnant]

Could it be that Iowa was in play this entire time!

6EVs ain't nothing

[wide pawn]

Its mostly because Iowa banned abortion and women are pissed

[flat coral]

I’m just interested to see if this can be generalized across the country

If Iowa could be swung so much I wonder how it can be applied elsewhere

[naive robin]

i saw a tweet mapping it,, i think it's pretty inaccurate but still kind of impressive
https://x.com/AriDrennen/status/1852851096588538062?t=5vfkfjQe2fZlM_18oOe4nQ&s=19

Ari Drennen (@AriDrennen) on X

The 2024 election results if every state shifts as much as the Selzer poll thinks Iowa did

Twitter · Nov 2, 2024, 11:11 PM

[flat coral]

I think I saw that one too

[naive robin]

honestly the thought is quite hard to grasp, but theoretically it could be possible

[lucid ridge]

Agreed

[lucid ridge]

Literally SCREAMED when I saw this

[hallow epoch]

Texas being blue??? Oh lord is red white and royal blue hahah

[naive robin]

alexander clairemont diaz dominating texas ifkr

[hallow epoch]

XDDD

[desert temple]

it would be insane news if Florida turns blue

probably not gonna happen but would be crazy

[wintry remnant]

I mean if Iowa could turn blue

[placid jacinth]

FLORIDA BLUE?

YES? PLS? 🙏

[naive robin]

we can only hope

and vote obviously

[placid jacinth]

TEXAS BLUE?

If that actually happens I’ll be over the moon

[naive robin]

literally because women got tired of abortion bans lmao

[placid jacinth]

We need her to win by more than a mile

[naive robin]

RIGHT

[flat owl]

Abortion + Tariffs hurt farmers really badly

[desert temple]

THIS WILL BECOME HISTORY!

[hallow epoch]

What the fuck did he say????

[vapid nova]

i actually have personal beef with the state of iowa but

[placid jacinth]

Ironic he talks sm shit about not wanting to start a world war 3 yet here he is allegedly making a threat to voters if he doesn’t win wanting to cause another civil war.

[rapid turtle]

And Florida

[hallow epoch]

Omg i didnt even see flordia

[burnt bough]

No way Texas can be blue

[wide pawn]

I think Texas is to the left of Florida at this point

IA can't be solid red now that the Selzer poll is out 😂

[wintry remnant]

https://x.com/xkcd/status/1853098106667114801

Randall Munroe (@xkcd) on X

Twitter · Nov 3, 2024, 3:33 PM

[unique terrace]

My midwestern step grandma is worried about this election. She has been conservative leaning her whole life but Trump has always upset her. Vance has her really worried and that should tell you all you need to hear.

[forest heron]

can we at least get Ohio into light red because I’ve been seeing slightly less Trump support in Ohio (and the whole Sherod Brown vs Bernie Moreno nonsense happening)

[vapid nova]

the thing is iowa shifted according to polling lol

[royal badge]

I’m a big political nerd and I’ve studied it for years and this is my final prediction before the election

Key points
Trump as tilt (within 1% margin of victory) in Arizona. I think this will occur due to trump in my opinion being overestimated by polls there, the biggest voter base is going to be white women and abortion rights is on the ballot + a key senate race both of these reasons will increase turnout and the democrat senate candidate will likely win and split ticketing isn’t as likely as a straight ticket but trump will narrowly win by a few thousand votes due to immigration and Harris’s failure to flip votes and energise her key voter base in phoenix suburbs

Wisconsin tilt towards harris, the average iirc is over 1% but polling in Wisconsin for some reason has always been very messed up usually heavily favouring the democratic candidate the best examples have been the last 2 presidential cycles (the opposite did kinda happen in the 2022 gubernatorial election here when the GOP was overestimated but eh) yet the Harris-walz campaign has ran solidly here and I can see it going blue.

GA blue
I just think Atlanta turnout will win the state for Harris but this time by under 10,000 votes and probably days if not weeks of fighting between the states local democrat and republican parties + other actors especially MTG will probably once again try and invalidate the results in the House of Representatives on January 6th 2025 yet a senator will not sign off on it as both Georgia senators are democrat and it will be Kamala in the house validating the results for her own election as she would still be vice president until Jan 20th when she rather replaces Biden as POTUS or is replaced by JD Vance as VPOTUS

Long message sorry if I’m in the way I just like sounding nerdy

[wide pawn]

Your map is very close to my map

I'm a bit more bullish on NC

But i guess after that Selzer poll IA is in play too

[royal badge]

I mean NC has been shifting left since trumps first term yes but I just don’t see Harris winning by a higher margin than Biden due to the closeness in polling statewide and nationwide

Maybe the distaste for Robinson in the governors race can help Harris

[wide pawn]

Both of those are why I'm bullish on NC

The early vote is looking good for dems there imo

[royal badge]

Selzer is reputable in IA but it just stands out too much but there was a recent poll in Ohio only had trump +3 it’s a hard one

Iowa being closer than Florida or Texas would be a shock

It would be like obamas Indiana moment in 2008

[oblique marsh]

My final election prediction!! 298-240, Harris wins the presidency. IA and NC flipped Blue. GA and AZ flipped red. GO OUT AND VOTEEEE!!!!

[vapid nova]

yeah but I just think because its reputable in Iowa theres more of a chance

[wide pawn]

Its worth nothing Selzer was also an outlier in 2020 when polls were overestimating Biden. Selzer was the most accurate in 2020

So the fact that Selzer is an outlier again, but this time in favor of Harris, suggests her support is being underestimated in polls

[royal badge]

I mean going from +8 or +9 republican to +3 Democrat in 2024?

I hope selzer is right though whatever helps Kamala win

[unique terrace]

She’s done a great job with how little time she’s had to campaign

[royal badge]

But has she done a good enough job to win

[unique terrace]

let’s hope

[royal badge]

I know I’m European but everyone I know and myself don’t understand how anyone can vote for trump

[unique terrace]

I’d like to keep my iud

[hallow epoch]

Stupidity and alot of Americans/ poor people in general turn to fascism in times of crisis

Didnt someone in this chat early talk about how italy and germany govt are gaining fascism attraction

[royal badge]

Central Europe is generally shifting right due to affective fearmongering campaigns

All of germanys main parties usually do unite against the right wing though

[royal badge]

Same in Austria btw

[hallow epoch]

That too

What is that meme again? You are not immune to propaganda

[slow imp]

Donald Trump is REJECTED⏏️⏏️⏏️

[wide pawn]

Data shows it's mostly older women. Iowa banned abortion this summer and needless to say many of them are pissed

I sincerely hope Americans unite against fascism like we've seen in many European countries. Americans unfortunately never experienced it, so they don't know what it means. But I've got faith

[vapid nova]

It was probably me in Italy is already gone Proto fascist they’re not like fully fascist, but they elected their most right wing prime Minister since Mussolini
so do with that what you will

[vapid nova]

TBH, I think Germany is extremely careful given the fact that they’ve fallen down this path not once but twice it was pretty detrimental to their society but places like Poland and Italy and to a lesser extent France have not fully learned the lesson that Germany had to learn not once but twice losing two world wars back to back. Also the holocaust in general did a lot to Germany’s reputation in German society, so it’s a completely different story than places that were occupied by Nazis as they (countries under Nazi occupation during World War II minus Italy, who was a Axis power,) feel they were oppressed and to an extent they were so they don’t realize they’re falling into those traps of fascism

[rapid turtle]

Ew Trump is live on twitch rn

[vale grove]

What…?!

[rapid turtle]

yeah

hold up. let me try to find a link

https://www.twitch.tv/donaldtrump

i wish i was kidding

[hallow epoch]

Vomit

[rapid turtle]

Random headline I'm literally staring at "Trump says he wouldn't mind if someone shot through 'the fake news' to get to him. Ummmm what do you mean by that

[rapid turtle]

Definitely

[wide pawn]

He means it's a "joke" with a winky face

[hallow epoch]

How they not ban him like wtf

[wide pawn]

American politics is wild

[hallow epoch]

I hate it here

[wide pawn]

12 years ago Romney would have had to drop out and leave the country for saying that shit

[naive robin]

yeah remember when elon bought this site because the owners were 'too political'
https://x.com/america/status/1853184645783044178?t=Ut-vYHtyt8EclCYWPgFtNg&s=19

America (@america) on X

The Republican Party has become the party of common sense and is bringing people together from all walks of life who care about the future of this nation.

Vote for Trump to Unite America.

Twitter · Nov 3, 2024, 9:17 PM

[wide pawn]

This looks so sinister

[naive robin]

using @/america handle to promote conservative propaganda,, lame

[marsh panther]

yeah @ america is basically the user for elon's like super pac to promote trump shit etc

[flat coral]

It just hit me that we’re probably 2 days away from seeing the end of MAGA

[burnt bough]

No because this is embarrassing

[wintry remnant]

Those are literally two different jokes

[burnt bough]

same concept…

[wide pawn]

They do the mirror skit a lot

The mirror skit is not like... just Trump's

[burnt bough]

well yes

But they could’ve done something more original

[wide pawn]

I laughed at the kamala dramala pajamala jokes lol

[wintry remnant]

I mean

It's not?

But even so

So what if it's the same concept?

They always do parody lookalikes in the months leading up to an election

And I'm pretty sure they always try to contact the candidate themselves if they want to come on

Of course the joke that's gonna be made is the same one

[hallow epoch]

Being a politician is an embarrassment already, i have another joke with this but i dont know if it would hit with anyone in the crowd here lol

[naive robin]

who cares

https://x.com/rtoddivey/status/1853144874943664566?t=xJaXzJeGI6r7ihpE5fKakA&s=19

Richard Todd Ivey (@rtoddivey) on X

Texas OB-Gyns Release Letter After News of the Deaths of Josseli Barnica and Nevaeh Crain as a Result of Texas Abortion Ban

Twitter · Nov 3, 2024, 6:39 PM

[flat coral]

the mirror skit has been done since 2001 on snl

acting like she copied trump is embarrassing lol

mick jagger mirror skit from 2001

[desert temple]

today rally with Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Oprah and more!

[wintry remnant]

https://x.com/H_McMuffin/status/1853149642214535173

McMuffin 🇺🇸🇺🇦 (@H_McMuffin) on X

There are only two options:

1: Selzer is wrong

2:

Twitter · Nov 3, 2024, 6:57 PM

I think Selzer is right but Texas wont flip but this is still funny as hell

[desert temple]

we'll see

[wide pawn]

Fr?

Okay wow fr

There's a chance taylor joins Harris tomorrow in Pittsburg

[desert temple]

i hope so

everyone will watch that

[wide pawn]

Thing is Iowa demographics are different than the sunbelt. Iowa tells us more about WI/MI/PA than any other state

I mean it's interesting tho that rural senior women are shifting Harris

Harris can literally win the senior vote, it's wild

[desert temple]

probably because of this

[wide pawn]

Yeah, that's what Selzer said is the main driver

Its outright banned in Iowa so the effects might not be as strong in other states but still likely noticeable

[vapid nova]

kart ily they do this every election

[desert temple]

"Harris could shatter the line of nearly 250 years of male commanders in chief and become the first female president."

😯

[wintry remnant]

She was already President

Do Republicans not know this?

[stoic lodge]

I saw a

[burnt bough]

VOTE

[hallow epoch]

XD

[stoic lodge]

I'm filling out my early ballot today and will drop off tomorrow

[burnt bough]

W!!!!

[vapid nova]

already voted a few weeks ago

[stoic lodge]

Seen this on my Facebook feed. Any guesses who this person voted for?

"My vote is in and I voted for the Economy & Border not Holywood Celebrities, Musicians, Comedians, Musicians, Billionaires, past politicans or labor unions. Representing small businesses and being one myself, the only choice!
We need to get the economy back on track!"

[vapid nova]

considering they spelled hollywood wrong and said musicians twice

[unique terrace]

lol "tell me everything is not about me"

[stoic lodge]

I saw someone wearing a hoodie mocking harris/walz and I'm wondering why not just wear something to support who you prefer

I would post here but it's kinda nsfw

[vapid nova]

yeah im even not really sure about georgia

[unique terrace]

Got home last night. Was wearing concert merch. Guy in a black MAGA hat walks by and gives me a dirty look. They seem to just be filled with hate instead of genuine concern for the world around them.

[stoic lodge]

Yes so much hate

[hallow epoch]

But what if it is 👀

[hallow epoch]

😦

[stoic lodge]

Trump campaign writing what trump really meant when he said he didn't mind if the fake news reporters got shot:

NO We all heard what trump said and what he meant

Why tf would trump want bulletproof glass for the press? He doesn't care about anyone else

[hallow epoch]

My friend who i thought wasnt voting is gonna try and make it to the polls tomorrow!! Yes!!!!

I hope thry can make it with their crazy work schedule

[unique terrace]

Your workplace is required to allot you time to vote. It's law.

[stoic lodge]

Not every state

[unique terrace]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/25/business/time-off-to-vote-election-day/index.html

[stoic lodge]

It also depends on employees shift hours as polls are open before and after work

[unique terrace]

Please remember that if you are IN LINE to vote before polls close, they have to let you vote.

If you are told that you cannot vote, ask for a provisional ballot and receipt "as required by federal law"

[hallow epoch]

I live in virginia

Not one of the states that gives time to vote

[hallow epoch]

Yea i learned that this year!! My place of work was an early voting station

[hallow epoch]

WHICH IS CRAZY CUZ VIRGINIA IS LIKE THE BIRTH ON THIS COUNTRY YADA YADA

This should be law for EVERY person

[unique terrace]

Virginia, home of presidents, but you can't take time off to vote.

[solid fiber]

Donald trump the evil wretch hopefully loses

[fresh basalt]

Okay so let’s vote now because women’s rights depend on it please go vote if you can

[naive robin]

iowa:

[fresh basalt]

What does that mean

[naive robin]

turned blue for a reason

[unique terrace]

not surprising and remains to be the most consistent throughline of this man's life. owes people tons of money and lies about it constantly

[stoic lodge]

A trump never pays their debts

[wide pawn]

This is why Trump avoids going to certain cities

He even pays for bussing his supporters ONE WAY and not the way back

[keen crane]

how does he have a 500k+ debt for a rally bro

[desert temple]

https://fixupx.com/TheGoodLiars/status/1853515063291707439

[keen crane]

GUYS IOWA TURNED BLUE?

@unique terrace appereantly iowa turned blue ??

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/stunning-poll-has-dems-hoping-to-turn-iowa-blue-223446085917

[unique terrace]

We won't know if it's real til tomorrow

But women will be the big drivers for the vote in general. It makes sense.

[keen crane]

its only 6 electoral votes so it may not do much if it turns out to be true. but still

[unique terrace]

6 can be the thing to push a candidate over the edge.

[keen crane]

true

[unique terrace]

I'm hoping for a blue shift in a lot of places. Having a blue shift in Texas would be monumental.

Unlikely, but women really are serious here.

We will die. We're already dying because of party politics.

[keen crane]

i honestly expect a blue shift, even if the state itself doesnt turn blue, but i believe that the margains will shrink expondeitally (i cant spell that word to save my life)

[unique terrace]

Even something like even footing in Texas would be a huge win.

idk how farmers keep shooting themselves in the foot with voting red so often.

Like farm subsidies and works programs are socialist and left leaning policies.

[desert temple]

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1853529056458707154 big if true

Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) on X

BREAKING

Jon Ralston, a Nevada analyst who has correctly predicted every state election for decades, predicts a Harris win in Nevada

Harris: 48.5%
Trump 48.2%

Twitter · Nov 4, 2024, 8:05 PM

[keen crane]

adults tend to be extremely hard headed, (which sounds obvious somewhat but really is true) and honestly? i don't know if they really want trump, but they may just want him over harris for some reason

i've noticed it as i've grown up, adults tend to have one belief and one belief only. and will argue against everyone and anything to prove themselves right

[desert temple]

yeah being ignorant

[keen crane]

not exactly ignorant. playing devils advocate, if you have believed something your entire life, and spent say 40+ years belieiving in it. you would do anything to prove yourself right

ESPICALLY if its a part of your identity, people hate the be contested. and lets just say, im a 65 year old person who believes that gasoline belongs on pancakes. ever since i was 5, i've believed this. its a part of my identity, i would argue to the ends to defend it( i may just be over-tired and sounding like a conspiracy theorist rn tbh)

[keen crane]

main point of my story: there are those who will defend their beliefs to the end

does it make them ignorant? maybe, but on the same token, not really

[dusty sparrow]

this election is going to be a shitshow

[vapid nova]

its been a shitshow every year since gore vs bush sans the obama years

[keen crane]

its always a shitshow. this one more so because of the influx of mail-in ballots and how some states can't start counting them until election day, which will make it take even longer

[dusty sparrow]

well yea

[dusty sparrow]

this would be big yes. but honestly I think nevada will go red

I have kamala winning by 2 electoral votes rn

it’s going to be a MESS

[unique terrace]

Um.

You guys know that you need 270 electoral votes

It's not just majority

[dusty sparrow]

yes

[unique terrace]

so 272

is what you have

or 271

[dusty sparrow]

the shit show of the electoral college 🔥

[dusty sparrow]

270-268 I think rn

[unique terrace]

Well 268 does not a win make

[vapid nova]

268 won't win brother

[dusty sparrow]

well yea

[unique terrace]

you've gotta cross the line

[vapid nova]

where do you think these two are from like

[dusty sparrow]

all I know rn is that this election is going to be a mess

if you guys need reference on how long each swing state will take

[vapid nova]

we don't even know this for sure until the election happens lmao this is speculation

[dusty sparrow]

well yea but this is based off 2022 midterms and 2020 election

arizona and nevada 🤮🤮

[keen crane]

its not guaranteed, don't hate on the show before you even hit play

[dusty sparrow]

I think this election will come down to arizona/nevada and pennsylvania

[vapid nova]

I mean this was 2016 so

[keen crane]

pa 100% wisconsin is really the one im not 100% sure of

[dusty sparrow]

pa is the most important state

[keen crane]

im predicting it goes blye

[dusty sparrow]

I think this is my ranking of HOW important each swing state is

1. PA
2. AZ
3. MI
4. NV
5. WI
6. GA
7. NC

[keen crane]

nevada over north carolina and georgia 😭 ??

[dusty sparrow]

yea

[keen crane]

whats the criteria for this ranking

[dusty sparrow]

I think nc and georgia will still be important i just don’t think it’ll be more important than other states

nevada is really important

bc if it’s a really close election it will take days

[keen crane]

important to what tho

[dusty sparrow]

state to pick up

[hallow epoch]

Saw the MOST dumbist shit on my way to work-

[dusty sparrow]

I really hope kamala wins

[keen crane]

im lost im sorry

im overly tired for somereason today

[dusty sparrow]

I’m sorry I am just a NOT good explainer dw

[hallow epoch]

Some dumb ass trump support had a whole ass flag pole in the back of his truck ans i mean like not a usual flag pole idiots put on their cars- not only did he have the trump flag but he had a flag with trump 2025 WITH A PICTURE OF HIS MUGSHOT IN THE MIDDLE

WHY ARE YOU PROUD HE IS A CRIMINAL???

[dusty sparrow]

so he’s admitting he’s a convicted felon

I cannot understand trump supporters man

[hallow epoch]

HONESTLY

[dusty sparrow]

I can’t vote until 2028 sadly

well 2026 midterms i can but I meant presidential election

[wide pawn]

That's too close for my liking but a narrow win is the same count as a big win

[wide pawn]

There's a house near my house with a bunch of Trump signs and his mugshot on their yard. Truly a cult

[hallow epoch]

2020 was my first election ever and i hated it

[wide pawn]

2016 was my first and I HATED IT

[hallow epoch]

FR FR and then they have the audacity to make fun of swifties 😭😭😭

[keen crane]

ur fine, do you mean in terms of how important they are for kamala to win?

[dusty sparrow]

I think people need to realize if ur voting for trump YOU are voting for a Supreme Court ran by conservatives until at least the 2050s-2060s

[keen crane]

yes, but heres how a democratic president can work around this

so the president has the power to elect and appoint judges right? they also have the power to increase the number of judges, the more judges there are, the less power each judge has, so by "threatning them", it will presuade judges to do the president's bidding

[dusty sparrow]

well yea that’s why we need to elect Harris bc 3 justices in the Supreme Court will probably be retiring the next presidents term and trump will appoint conservatives into them

[keen crane]

they won't retire if she wins

they'll only retire if trump wins, so he can appoint younger conservative judges

[vapid nova]

they might die tho

[keen crane]

thats different

[dusty sparrow]

judges thomas and alito and chief justice roberts will all probably be retiring bc of age soon

[keen crane]

if thomas retires i will do a backflip of joy

(i have never done a backflip before)

[dusty sparrow]

PLEASE 🙏

[keen crane]

i HATEE that man so bad

[dusty sparrow]

but anyway this is one of the very long reasons why we NEED to vote for kamala

[vapid nova]

thomas is literally a rapist lol

[keen crane]

but yeah no, they most likely only have plans of retiring if trump wins, so he can appoint younger conservative judges, and bc its life terms, they'll stay there

[hallow epoch]

I HOPE THAT MAN RETIRES FUCK THAT GUY

[vapid nova]

i can't say what i hope for him here

[hallow epoch]

Freedom of speech? /j

[vapid nova]

but justice for anita hill fr

[keen crane]

what

nobody likes thomas babes

[hallow epoch]

?

[vapid nova]

use ur brain that was a response to me LMAO

[hallow epoch]

Yea???

[keen crane]

im so tired

[dusty sparrow]

there’s 2 scenarios on what i think will happen

1. kamala wins in a LANDSLIDE (I hope)
2. it’s a very close election and it takes 1+ days

[keen crane]

my back hurts i blame george clarance thomas

[wide pawn]

The Selzer poll suggests a landslide

[dusty sparrow]

we can only hope

[wide pawn]

Valid

[vapid nova]

must stress once again Clarance Thomas is a rapist

[hallow epoch]

Is that, that guy in north carolina who was exposed for racist shit?

[vapid nova]

thats a supreme court justice

[wide pawn]

No Clarence Thomas is the rapist supreme court justice

[hallow epoch]

OH IM SO IM SLOW WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME GUY

[wide pawn]

Clarence Thomas's own wife in on record saying her husband can overturn an election.

He should be impeached and removed

[keen crane]

no hes the shitty supreme court judge who wants to overturn gay marriage, overturrned roe v wade, and basically every other civil right from the like 40-60's except interracial marriage (bc his wife is white)

[vapid nova]

how we've got TWO rapists in the supreme court is truly fun

[sonic wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-confused-say-what-young-gif-20141667

[vapid nova]

and is once again LITERALLY A RAPIST

[weary coral]

The good liars are so good
They prove their point without saying anything

[unique terrace]

istg Clarence Thomas needs to be impeached. The corruption alone is disgusting let alone the other issues.

[hallow epoch]

Yes i remember now idk why but my brain suddenly went oh we talking about a dif guy

[keen crane]

which is why im blaming him for my back hurting

[wide pawn]

We've had one in the white house for 4 years. And elected right after audio recording of him admitting it. I'm surprised we don't have more

[vapid nova]

clarence was WELL BEFORE trump tho

[wide pawn]

I'm just stressing the fact that in America, being a rapist was never a career ender

[hallow epoch]

I saw john oliver’s episode on him awhile back

About that stupid fucking rv he was bribed with 💀

[keen crane]

if you got money and power, you can get away with whatever

[hallow epoch]

Oh i bet we have way more they just hide it a lot better

[vapid nova]

obviously considering the founding fathers were

[keen crane]

#dollyparton4president

[unique terrace]

She's great.

[vapid nova]

as a tennessean how i wish

[keen crane]

i would trust dolly parton with my life

not even would. i DO

[unique terrace]

It's funny how the people with the beliefs that support the most people are the ones who don't want power.

[keen crane]

those people tend to not be college educated, so it make somewhat sense

[unique terrace]

Not really true

[keen crane]

college educated people tend to be more liberal no?

[unique terrace]

Yeah, but so is Dolly

[vapid nova]

lets um not dip into this territory because college is a luxury

[unique terrace]

TRUE

college is a privilege, but it shouldn't be

it should be so so cheap

because education makes things better for everyone

[keen crane]

im just stating a statistic

[vapid nova]

it shouldn't however demonizing people who couldn't afford to go to college or end up in debt is bad imo

[unique terrace]

You're not though. Your making a statement and not actually giving me the evidence or where you got it from.

[vapid nova]

and thats a rock fact! 🪨

[keen crane]

pew research center

[hallow epoch]

I wont stoop to bulling the right thru tryna embarrass them by saying they arent college educated because SO many people are arent college educated are good and smart people college is not a bases of intelligence yes the right is fucking stupid and ignorant but it aint cuz “most” of them arent college educated

[hallow epoch]

T H I S

One of my best friends did not finish college and they are honestly WAY smarter than me

[keen crane]

im not trying to demonize anybody. that is 100% not my intent

[stoic lodge]

BLUE TIDE

[keen crane]

im not saying that college is a fair representation of somebody's intelligence or anything

im just saying, from the statistics that i have seen, those who are college educated. are more likely to be liberal

[hallow epoch]

I know im def more liberal cuz i got to go to college at the very least

Its so beneficial to be able to go to 1. A facility that encourages growth and education and 2. A place of community that has a wide range of cultures and peoples

Bro rfk jk looks fucking old as dirt https://youtu.be/tWZAbKU-JzE?si=v25wkGjppDF1jPNn

[unique terrace]

Sorry it wasn't clear what you were getting at. You're right though college educated people tend to be more liberal.

[hallow epoch]

Is decreped the word?

[unique terrace]

decrepit

[hallow epoch]

Thats it ty

[unique terrace]

My frustration with people sometimes is that a lot of people don't understand that the far right relies on people being misinformed and not being taught critical thinking skills about how to suss out what information is real and true.
College does in fact teach you how to do a lot of those things, but we should be teaching everyone those things by the time they hit voting age.

[storm garden]

I acknowledge that Taylor is under no obligation do anything for anyone, but at some level I'm disappointed she did not show up and speak at VP Harris's rallies in Pittsburgh

I know Tay's had a long stretch of shows and needs a break, but you can miss one KC football game to back your values in Pennsylvania

Plenty more KC football games this year, but only one day before Election Day to rally with potentially historic first female POTUS, who is also our best chance to wind back the darkness of a wannabe-fascist dictator

[weary coral]

It’s too late now - she’s done okay by endorsing, but I feel it’s not in her own interests do go to a rally a few days before the election when she’d only be harming herself really

I too wish she would’ve showed up too

[reef zenith]

I doubt Taylor showing up would have much influence

I assume most of Taylor’s supporters are already supporting Kamala Harris

Although, it could be useful for grasping at last minute battleground state votes

[storm garden]

More than responsible assumption, given the age-gender demographics

[reef zenith]

… or that you need some level of intelligence to understand her lyrics 😋

(cough sorry trumpies)

[storm garden]

Especially Pennsylvania

[vapid nova]

her safety

[reef zenith]

How is Pennsylvania looking poll wise?

[storm garden]

less than 0.2%, whose winning? depends on the poll

Pennsylvania in a nutshell: too close to call

[reef zenith]

So its too close

yeah

[vapid nova]

election day hasn't started

[reef zenith]

According to NBC over 72 million early votes have been submitted

[unique terrace]

ground polling is reporting a possible blue shift, which is in direct opposition to the vocal trump supporters there.

[vapid nova]

so thats only early voting

[unique terrace]

so it's inconclusive at best for PA.

[reef zenith]

honestly abolish the electoral college

[vapid nova]

we will know nothing until at minimum tomorrow evening

[storm garden]

[vapid nova]

thats very normal btw and best case scenario in the bad version we don't know till next week

[storm garden]

There are reasons for optimism

[reef zenith]

I hope harris wins

for the world’s sake

[storm garden]

VP Harris has a colossal advantage in small (<$20) donors, which is promising

[reef zenith]

thats good

[storm garden]

the Real Money comes from the megadonors, but every small donor is a high-reliability voter

[reef zenith]

Harris’ campaign has been well funded thats for sure

[storm garden]

and the Republican 'Ground Game' appears to be trash

[unique terrace]

Yeah, she's a prime example of good grass roots campaigning

[reef zenith]

It’s just so wild to understand just how much money these campaigns have gotten thouhh

Like Kamala’s is over $1 billion, generating that much would be against the law here lol

[storm garden]

Mango Mussolini drained the GOP's cash reserves, relies on outside PACs to do outreach, the biggest one is Elon's and its a 💩show https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musks-america-pac-chaos

[reef zenith]

America PAC is just ugh

electoral interference core

well he is due in Pennsylvania court for violating electoral law for his interferences

[storm garden]

workers were being asked to hand out soggy campaign literature, ride in back of U-Haul trailers, they didn't get paid accommodation allowance unless they achieved utterly unrealistic targets

decent number of them didn't know who they were campaigning for until they were on the job

demanding disgruntled underpaid misled people to do campaign door-knocking for under minimum wage

[storm garden]

the Pennsylvania indictment is for operating an illegal lottery

[reef zenith]

well same thing in this instance

his $1m donations could be seen as paying people to vote (against Federal Law)

in addition to being an illegal lottery

[quaint totem]

cant believe iowa might turn blue

[storm garden]

behind the scenes, prosectors are keeping receipts

once the 🍊 loses, Elon's in deep 💩

[storm garden]

Karma's a relaxing thought

[quaint totem]

i used to pray for times like this

[reef zenith]

its so 1800s that abortion is a big thing in this election

[storm garden]

if Iowa is turning blue, WI will be hella blue

WI = Wisconsin

if Iowa is in play, then Georgia and North Carolina are definitely competitive, both are worth almost as much as Pennsylvania

[reef zenith]

“women for trump” 😭

[storm garden]

If VP Harris wins either Georgia or North Carolina she has a lot of ways to win (even without Pennsylvania)

[vapid nova]

she will win pA i feel it in my bones

[storm garden]

she'll obviously need Wisconsin and Michigan for that to work, but those have slightly better margins

there's also the madlad scenario where VP Harris wins TEXAS

that'd be a Harris blowout win

[wide pawn]

POV: you wake up on November 6th and these are the results

[quaint totem]

i feel this way about iowa too 🙏

[quaint totem]

we cheer

[vapid nova]

change pa and i’d agree this is accurate

[sonic wedge]

shes a singer not a politician, she doesn't NEED to show up for anything

she goes to kc games during her tour breaks to have fun, why should she spend that precious time dealing with politics in a place that is likely
to be unsafe anyway

[storm garden]

an pre-planned campaign event with the VP who also happens to be a party candidate, the day before the election has enough Secret Service, Homeland Security, police, counter-drone, counter-sniper - it'd be safer than the inside of an Eras stadium

[sonic wedge]

ok but again, she's a singer not a politician, who is on tour, and busy

[vapid nova]

are you unaware that the secret service got fired well the head after the trump shit LOL

[wide pawn]

Tbh Taylor is so well known and her endorsement is kinda everywhere so I don't think she needs to go. It won't make a difference. Better off having other people there

[storm garden]

nobody has proof, but DT almost certainly didn't get hit with a 5.56 round on 7/13

as someone whose seen 5.56 bullet wounds, he didn't get nicked in the ear

[vapid nova]

conspiracy theories are delusional and have no place in my life thanks

[storm garden]

post 7/13 photos of his ear isn't 'delusional'

[wide pawn]

It skinned his ear. There was blood. What

[sonic wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[vapid nova]

i do not support trump but bffr like BE FUCKING FOR REAL

[wide knoll]

I'd like to point out this again. Taylor isn't a politician, it's not her job or obligation to campaign

[storm garden]

the USSS had no issue securing Trump at his golf course

from the jackass with a off-scope AK

[storm garden]

I actually acknowledged that in my initial post, first line

Beyonce, Lady Gaga, The National, Aaron Dresner aren't politicians either

[vapid nova]

im gonna be honest shut the fuck up thank you

[wide knoll]

Good for them

[sonic wedge]

okay and they also aren't on tour

can we go back to the part where you say trump never got shot

[storm garden]

not trying to hate, just making the point that 7/13 maybe wasn't the USSS at their best

[marsh panther]

ok let's all chill out

[storm garden]

please read the first line of my first message earlier