US Politics

[keen crane]

there is literally charges and impeachments against him for it. its not made up

[marsh panther]

let's not name call and stuff cause that's rule breaking a lil bit

[sweet kindle]

mb

[wide pawn]

I see you have they pronouns. How does it feel voting for someone who makes fun of your pronouns

[marsh panther]

ok

no

we're not doing that

stop

[wide knoll]

icon

[marsh panther]

it's turning into rule 1 breaking

[spring dawn]

FIRST OF ALL DONT CALL ME BABE

SECOND OF ALL January 6 was a being of angry conservatives and shit

[marsh panther]

come on yall

be better than that

bro why are you fming in here

😭

[sweet kindle]

bro who fmed here 😭

[open cosmos]

Yes he literally told them to storm the capital

[slow imp]

this isnt meredith omg

[keen crane]

mean
but they literally broke into the capital under the encouragement of trump

like there is documented evidence of him encouraging it

[tame gate]

WTH is FMED

[keen crane]

offical documentation

[slow imp]

fm stands for fuck, man

[oak cobalt]

LMAO

[tame gate]

Man I hate this young people
Lingo

[keen crane]

is it bad im curious for this response

[spring dawn]

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WANTS TO HAPPEN TO OUR COUNTRY

WE ARE BEING SPLIT APART

[slow imp]

its giving kamala

[wide knoll]

the lastfm thing that shows what you're listening to if you connect your Spotify to it

[marsh panther]

ok here's what we're gonna do

[open cosmos]

Yes because of trump

[sweet kindle]

im sorry but geniunely when have yall ever been all in agreement

[wide pawn]

Yeah by Trump lol

[oak cobalt]

Partisan fighting who?

[spring dawn]

fuck off

[tame gate]

The propaganda is hitting hard rn huh

[sweet kindle]

im not from the US

[spring dawn]

I'm done🖕

[winged hawk]

That’s not nice

[hallow epoch]

Dont fall out of a coconut tree now

[keen crane]

idk what u said BUT next question!!

whats your take on the 2020 election and if it was "rigged"

[wide pawn]

Don't cut yourself on that edge babe

[marsh panther]

@spring dawn i think it's in your best interest you just step away from the conversation and just move on cause you're very clearly a kid who's been like i mentioned brainwashed and legit you're just going in circles bud

[slow imp]

i think trump fell out of the coconut tree 💀

[spring dawn]

Absolutely rigged. You saw the numbers. Trump was higher than Biden.

[tame gate]

Yeahhh someone should just remove him if they can I don’t think he’ll leave on his own lol

[hallow epoch]

No he really did 💀😂

[marsh panther]

buddy i'm being nice 😭

[open cosmos]

LMAO

[winged hawk]

Biden isn’t running for president 😭

[keen crane]

Biden won the election with 306 electoral votes and 51.3% of the national popular vote, compared to Trump's 232 electoral votes and 46.9% of the popular vote.

[wide pawn]

Every court, even by judges appointed by Trump, didn't see any real evidence

[oak cobalt]

Me when I'm delusional

[wide knoll]

Let's see the context before we comment

[spring dawn]

whatever

[marsh panther]

are you moving on out of here?

[placid jacinth]

If they’re brainwashed they won’t understand any language or words you speak unless it’s “YAY TRUMP”

[slow imp]

this my upstairs neighbors car😭 there was a lot of stomping above me earlier

[sweet kindle]

itd be such a hard thing to fake being serious

[zenith talon]

[winged hawk]

Yah I jumped on that too quick

[spring dawn]

swifties for trump

[keen crane]

actually in 2016 hilliary clinton had a higher popular vote then trump and didnt win due to the electoral college

[spring dawn]

we are being split apart 🚩

[marsh panther]

alright

[wide knoll]

self luv 😭

[sweet kindle]

ok well now youre in circles buddy

[tame gate]

This is true

[wide pawn]

The reality is that Republicans counted the ballots multiple times in their own states and found no evidence of widespread fraud

[hallow epoch]

The irony of the “clean as fuck” sticker

[slow imp]

lets be so fr rn. we just had the most uniting candidate in a WHILE

[sweet kindle]

Exactly.

[tame gate]

Isn’t trump about to go to court in Georgia for threatening a politician to “find more votes”

[keen crane]

FINAL QUESTION

@spring dawn what is ur opinion on project 2025.

[wide pawn]

Yeah, lmao

[sweet kindle]

bro can we just stop provoking them they finally left like

[tame gate]

Yeah there’s no point

[open cosmos]

Trump literally admitted that he lost fair and square lol

[slow imp]

trump doesnt want to help those who disagree with him, kamala wants to help everyone

[wide knoll]

jesus christ

[oak cobalt]

If it happens no woman is safe

[keen crane]

he actually has. BUT in this debate he said he did it "sarcastically"\

[wide pawn]

The reason election night started for Trump then swung biden is because mail ballots took longer to count and democrats weren't out and about in public during the pandemic like Republicans were

[slow imp]

mhm

[hallow epoch]

No that was crazy too like wtfff 💀💀💀

[oak cobalt]

Partisan fighting who? (Pt 2)

[sweet kindle]

if it happens a lot of people arent safe, not just women. others too

[slow imp]

he has 5 kids and they play bowling above me and run around at 3 in the morning

[tame gate]

Kamala has agreed to try and hear Palestine protesters out and that is the most people have gotten out of any politician in America rn

[keen crane]

nobody but straight white men are safe (and not even them!)

[spring dawn]

don't know exactly yet. But whatever trump has on the agenda. I'm with him

[sweet kindle]

yeah no one is actually safe

[oak cobalt]

True, but mainly women

[keen crane]

so let me get this 100% straight. no matter what trump says you will follow him

[wide pawn]

I'm beginning to think jmnez is too young to vote

[sweet kindle]

and Veterans and such

[slow imp]

they will mute you minimum 24 hrs for talking about this be careful😭

[tame gate]

Probably lol

[sweet kindle]

And perhaps a little uneducated

[open cosmos]

So you're fine with trump making people being lgbtq illegal?

[hallow epoch]

My trans friends isnt safe and they literally have been my rock these past few years

[tame gate]

Ik but im just shaking this is the only person who’s agreed to hear anything out

[keen crane]

im guessing thats what you mean okay

[tame gate]

That’s why I didn’t put my take on it at all

[sweet kindle]

same with really anyone in the LGBTQI+ community

[tame gate]

Just that she’s been open minded

[spring dawn]

Absolutely not. It is your absolute choice if you are part of the lgbtq community

[wide pawn]

Not a choice really but ok

[slow imp]

i honestly still dont understand why its a banmed topic

[keen crane]

@spring dawnlife tip. do not let ANYONE (even politicans) influence you. everybody is biased. its human nature. there is nobody who is 100% unbiased towards themselves. i implore you to do your own research and not take the opinions of others

[wide knoll]

So you're not fine with it?

[hallow epoch]

Fr 😭

[tame gate]

Probably bc people have been coming after Taylor for not speaking about it but celebs don’t owe us political commentary so

[open cosmos]

Can you word that better

[keen crane]

me?

[open cosmos]

Gbe

[tame gate]

Politicians do, but for some reason ppl are forgetting that

[keen crane]

prob not no

[sweet kindle]

There's a reason Taylor said that although she endorses her, that you should do your own research rather than blindly supporting a specfic party, main runner aside, the party behind them also has a fair amount of say in what happens in the country.

[wide pawn]

Yeah I was starting to sympathize with her not saying anything given the polarization. I'm glad she did tho

[tame gate]

Let’s just.. ignore them and move on…

[keen crane]

100%!

[spring dawn]

I'm not ok with lgbtq being illegal. But it is your choice to be part of the lgbtq community. I won't have any shame. I have friends who are gay and lesbian..does that make them different? No

[hallow epoch]

Thats actually upsetting to hear, not that anything else you said wasnt less upsetting but as an lgbtq person myself: i was born this way

[keen crane]

its not a "choice" scientifically

[tame gate]

Yeah it’s genetic

[open cosmos]

Nobody chooses to be gay, bi, trans, etc

[wide pawn]

Epigenetic 😉

[sweet kindle]

its just the way that they feel attraction wise. thats not choice

[open cosmos]

It's the way you're born

[keen crane]

if i could choose to be straight i would trust. being gay in today's era is both amazing yet horrible

[sweet kindle]

its just human nature

[tame gate]

I’m a lesbian but I can’t have kids either way so lol

[keen crane]

sexuality is a social construct 🗣️

[hallow epoch]

Eh thats whay i said too!!!

[tame gate]

So true

[open cosmos]

The only "choice" is accepting yourself for who you are

[hallow epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/govhookery-gaga-born-this-way-gif-3231892499956907725

[tame gate]

Me bc there have been plenty of matriarchal societies in history

[keen crane]

yep!! and accpeting that others can have a different opinion

[sweet kindle]

the only thing that is set in stone is your scientific 'sex' which determines chromosomes and such, right-

[spring dawn]

honey

When you are born, you can not just come out of the womb gay or Trans or lesbian etc. Throughout your life, you ask yourself. but the fact that u think ur born being part of the lgbtq community. Nah

[tame gate]

I was born kissing girls I’m gonna tell ya that rn

[open cosmos]

Its scientifically how you're born yes

[tame gate]

Never ever liked a man

[spring dawn]

God u are delusional

[open cosmos]

You just realize it later on in life

[keen crane]

its science. it has been scientifically proven several times it IS infact how you are born but good going

[tame gate]

Me when ppl disagree with with me

[open cosmos]

It's innate to who you are

[hallow epoch]

Whats the word? Conformed heteronormativity???

[sweet kindle]

As you grow, you might find yourself more attracted to men or women or whoever, right? Get it? The same way a man is "naturally" drawn to a women, they could also be drawn to men, or nobody. It works the same way

[tame gate]

I think this is right

The word anyway

[keen crane]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/massive-study-finds-no-single-genetic-cause-of-same-sex-sexual-behavior/ read this

[hallow epoch]

Yea like cuz society pressures the people to be straight but like deep down we know we are queer, its why politicians secretly have gay sex lmao

[spring dawn]

@keen crane @tame gate @open cosmos @sweet kindle @hallow epoch I'm done. I don't want to argue anymore. I just put my opinions on taylors endorsement of kamala. We should not be fighting like this at all

[tame gate]

I’m not fighting pookie I’m just saying

[keen crane]

It’s not completely known why someone might be lesbian, gay, straight, or bisexual. But research shows that sexual orientation is likely caused partly by biological factors that start before birth.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/sexual-orientation/sexual-orientation/what-causes-sexual-orientation

[sweet kindle]

youre just not stating facts so we're correcting you using set in stone facts

[tame gate]

But goodbye 🙂

[keen crane]

final word i am saying to you about this. i am going to bed

[tame gate]

goodnight pookies

[winged hawk]

Like who actually chooses their sexual orientation- that sounds bonkers

[hallow epoch]

Just to be clear i wasnt fighting you, if i was i would have been a lot more ferrel lol i was also just expressing my disappointment but gnight!!!

[tame gate]

I’m a happy little girl kisser hear to tell you I love yall

[sweet kindle]

most (if not all) aspects of what youve said are not opinion based and stuff that science or research backs up

[open cosmos]

With trans people they're pretty much born in the wrong body

Male brain and female body (or female brain and male body)

The dysphoria is the brain realizing there is a misalignment

So they transition to match who they are inside

[keen crane]

omg im a happy boy kisser

[tame gate]

Goodnight

I will see you all on VMAS day

[oak cobalt]

I will happily kiss boys and girls 🫡🫡

[keen crane]

gn pookiedookie

[hallow epoch]

I dont kiss anyone cuz thats gross ew cooties!! Night everyone!!!

[placid jacinth]

Gonna watch the debate rn bc I missed it

[hallow epoch]

No cuz me too LMAO

[placid jacinth]

Glad I’m not alone, either way I had to for US Govt hw

[hallow epoch]

Oh god i remember us govt class in HS it was hell 💀

[oak cobalt]

AP gov 🤩

[hallow epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

[wide pawn]

Ohhh I took AP gov

[hallow epoch]

Thats even WORSE

[buoyant crest]

i’m currently IN AP gov

[wide pawn]

I loved AP gov

[oak cobalt]

Me and you both 🤝

[buoyant crest]

We are suppose to write an essay about tonight and i’m so excited because now i get to mention taylor swift

[placid jacinth]

I actually love it bc we talk about politics and policies and stuff yk

[placid jacinth]

IM DOING THAT TO

Glad we’re on the same boat

[oak cobalt]

My teacher was hella chill

We never had to write essays lmao

[hallow epoch]

Well im glad yall having fun and like it!! It was awful for me in 2016 when i took us gov in 9th grade

[oak cobalt]

9th grade? damn, I took it as a senior

[hallow epoch]

See its SUPPOSE to be a senior class but the way my school did stuff… it SUCKED

[oak cobalt]

🥴

[hallow epoch]

No fr like thats exactly how the staff were

[kind marsh]

TAYLOR JUST PLAYED SUCH A BIG PART IN THE ELECTIONS W THAT POST HOLY SHIT
THE AMOUNT OF INCOMING VOTES FOR KAMALA

HELL I WANNA VOTE BUT IM NOT EVEN AMERICAN SJSHDH

taylor and the coconut tree remixes ate ZOWN

[rigid smelt]

Yo who wants to build a wall?

[wide pawn]

There's probably some houses that could use a wall

[left river]

Yup!

[kind marsh]

trump embarassing himself will never not be funny

atp just jump off the white house or smth ur past ur expiration date

bro is literally a walking corpse w body fat

his eyes look like mouths when he closes them

if kamala wins legit the entire planet will improve

one less issue for romania too🙏🙏

GUYS DID KAMALA ACTUALLY PUT THE MAN AS HER EXIT SONG?!?

[quaint totem]

ya

[kind marsh]

MOTHERRRR

[desert bridge]

Most likely a few %. Most Swifties were voting for Kamala without endorsement

[calm smelt]

just wanna say im proud to be a swiftie, proud to have been a swiftie since debut, proud to use my vote for kamala and for the future of america and my children

[nimble furnace]

@clear lantern genuinely curious on what ur thoughts are now?

[wise tinsel]

taylor is actually endorsing kamala now omggg

[placid jacinth]

Just finished watching the debate

Wonderful debate, Kamala absolutely served

[wise tinsel]

idk but i js saw like this part of trump saying springfield eats dogs and cats

wtf does that mean

[quaint totem]

just a rumor (?) about migrants eating them in ohio

[nimble furnace]

Him being racist

[wise tinsel]

wHAAAT

[proper fossil]

LFG she did it

[wide knoll]

here's the clip

[tame gate]

Thank you Taylor 💙💙💙💙

[storm garden]

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1833617593929728164?t=IPos96fSJmOMB7-4rgrydg&s=19

Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) on X

🚨 BIDEN JUST NOW: “Tomorrow, I’m doing 9/11”

Bro… 🤣

Twitter · Sep 10, 2024, 9:24 PM

Tomorrow I will do 9/11 - biden

[amber tree]

I’m seeing posts from the debate and OMG Kamala is amazing 💛 and having The Man as her exit song? Im just wowed rn

[amber tree]

I SAW THAT TOO?

I was literally like “what- huh? ‘Eating the pets..?’”

[wise tinsel]

I WAS SO CONFUSED

[bleak thunder]

He also said Kamala was doing transgender surgeries on illegal aliens” 😭

[pine quest]

it’s curtains for trump im afraid

[amber tree]

😭 literally what-

Now I kinda wish I watched the debate last night 😭

[bleak thunder]

It was actually hilarious

[amber tree]

Wait, what’s this part about LOVE LETTERS 😭

[amber tree]

I bet it was oh my goodness

[bleak thunder]

They said some wild stuff fr

[low zephyr]

omg tay tay endorsement

[nimble furnace]

It was insane

But amazing

[amber tree]

Whoever is running the Kamala HQ account is doing an amazing job 😭

[nimble furnace]

From their repost of Taylor’s post I bet it’s some teenage girl

Well like a 20 year old girl 😭

[nimble furnace]

Why is Elon musk so odd

You’d think he’d be smart if he literally owns a space agency

[flat coral]

elon musk is what happens when an idiot thinks he’s a genius and somehow gets rich

[storm garden]

"Transgender operations on illegal immigrants in prison"

Trump thought he ate with that one 🙄

[marsh panther]

actually it was as he put it

illegal aliens

still one of the most insane fucking things of last night

that and the thing about springfield ohio

[flat coral]

also executing babies

[marsh panther]

executing babies after they're born

[placid jacinth]

Idk where he thought he was going with that or if he thought he was cooking

[marsh panther]

no no bestie

they'recooking them in ohio

smh silly

for me the craziest thing was him being asked a question and just like clock work straight up avoiding answering the question

he was asked a yes or no question and bro went on a ramble

like my brother in christ

YES OR NO

[placid jacinth]

Not surprised

The amount of times he yaps and doesn’t directly answers is ridiculous, not to mention every time bro is asked about issues he always goes off topic and rambles about the border or immigration

[marsh panther]

he got asked about climate change and went right back to immigration like my brotheri n christ what are you on about

[placid jacinth]

I was just about to say that 😭

But yes that’s all he yaps about literally and it’s ridiculous. No solid defense or foundation either

And ofc he found someway to drag Biden when his opponent isn’t Biden but Kamala

[marsh panther]

bro he kept mentioning biden over and over

the clip of kamala saying i am not biden had me dying

[placid jacinth]

I was dead 😭😭

But I think one of my fav parts of the entire thing is at the very start

When Kamala goes up to him and shakes his hand

[marsh panther]

power move

[placid jacinth]

We haven’t seen that in a very long time tbh

Clearly says a lot about Kamala, I think that was the highlight of the night imo

[marsh panther]

i was laughing at him saying his 2020 numbers

"i had the most votes ever for a president! i had 75 mil votes!

you did don

but biden got 81 mil

it's like in a match

your team scored 6 goals

like cool

but the other team scored 9

you fucking lost 😭

[placid jacinth]

It was funny asf but what pissed me off the most was when he was asked about Jan 6

His response was just completely irrational

Completely dumb

[marsh panther]

i said it in here last night but i wonder if they'll have another debate

i think trump is gonna try and push for one

cause keep in mind he did not wanna do this debate at all he tried so so so hard to move the goalposts and either back out or have it moved to fox

[placid jacinth]

He said maybe after the debate was over

[marsh panther]

the fact the abc moderators clocked him hard with calling him out with fact checks had me CACKLING

[placid jacinth]

He sounded very unsure but proceeded to say “we won that debate”

[marsh panther]

my guess is he'll ask for another debate but on his terms

aka on fox

[placid jacinth]

Ofc he wanted to back out

[placid jacinth]

That was funny ngl

[marsh panther]

it was abc being petty as fuck

[placid jacinth]

That’s the only way I see another debate happening tbh

[marsh panther]

...............as they should though

[placid jacinth]

Rightfully so

[marsh panther]

like he talked so much shit about their network and tried to back out etc

like i'm glad they went petty

[placid jacinth]

I wonder why tf you would talk shit about a network you’re gonna be debating on 😭💀

[marsh panther]

cause he's dumb

straight up

[placid jacinth]

Not to mention

Trumps closing statement was also utter horse shit

[marsh panther]

oh for sure

[unique terrace]

He did not once address Kamala or Linsey, the other moderator, by name either.

[vapid nova]

he really didn't want to shake her hand

[nimble furnace]

She came to him, they didn’t even like meet in the middle to shake hands 😭

[unique terrace]

like? is he gonna get cooties if he talks to or touches a girl?

[placid jacinth]

Ofc he didn’t, bc he’s not like her. While she may absolutely despise trump and his policies it’s still the right thing to shake the hand of your opponent on a debate

[wide pawn]

Kamala forcing a hand shake was such a power move

[placid jacinth]

That was the highlight of the night imo

[stoic lodge]

Kamalastan

Trump couldn't look her in the eyes

And she reminded everyone of the insane bs and controversies over the years

Like I forgot about Charlottesville

This is the email trump supporters got this morning. Subject line was "I love ABC News. That was my best debate ever!"

(Note 'Cheeto' was the name my friend signed up under)

[hallow epoch]

Lmao wtffff

[royal badge]

Ellen pompeo ate

[unique terrace]

this looks like a scam email you send to a senior citizen to get their pension money.

[stoic lodge]

FW: FW: FW: RE: FW: RE: FW: SAVE AMERICA

[true swift]

You know it acutally dose look like that

Trump update your email stop having it look like a scam

[stoic lodge]

I actually agree with Trump

The debate was a total blowout

[unique terrace]

DEAR FACEBOOK! MARK ZUCKERBERG DOES NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO USE MY DATA. MY LAWYER SAID I SHOULD POST THIS AND YOU SHOULD COPY AND PASTE THIS AS YOUR STATUS BEFORE THE DEADLINE

[stoic lodge]

Love how all those people are like:

THIS IS AMERICA I WILL BE INDEPENDENT AND MAKE MY OWN OPINIONS. RESEARCH AND FACTS.

COPY AND PASTE IF YOU AGREE

bro you're in a fn cult

Of all the global leaders to name drop as being supportive of trump, Viktor orban was certainly a choice

[unique terrace]

Yeah. The watch party/birthday I was at last night all groaned out loud at that.

[stoic lodge]

Trumpers calling everyone snowflakes but when I start dissing Republicans then they get all offended lmao

[weary coral]

Could you send the original tweet?

He’s such a weirdo

[flat coral]

chris chan made this 💔

[vapid nova]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1833728804579111268

Elon Musk (@elonmusk) on X

Fine Taylor … you win … I will give you a child and guard your cats with my life

Twitter · Sep 11, 2024, 4:46 AM

[weary coral]

Thx

[flat coral]

with the debate + taylor endorsement i feel like kamala wins this 100%

if trump wins ill eat dirt

[true swift]

And then be happy knowing if trump wins this is his last term he cant run again after that

[flat coral]

https://x.com/trumpdailyposts/status/1833702103916949980?s=46 lmfao

Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) on X

I thought that was my best Debate, EVER, especially since it was THREE ON ONE!

Donald Trump Truth Social 10:53 PM EST 09/10/24 @realDonaldTrump

Twitter · Sep 11, 2024, 3:00 AM

“best debate ever” my ass bro you didn’t answer a single question

[stoic lodge]

Creepy and weird very on brand for maga

[stoic lodge]

People still need to votw

Vote

[flat coral]

oh absolutely

[stoic lodge]

Vote early vote often

https://x.com/NoahGarfinkel/status/1833708370974695574

Noah Garfinkel (@NoahGarfinkel) on X

A key point missing in a lot of post debate analysis is that Trump’s claim about immigrants eating pets almost perfectly syncs up to the piano in the Peanuts theme song.

Twitter · Sep 11, 2024, 3:25 AM

[open cosmos]

Use vxtwitter instead of x and it embeds the video lol

[stoic lodge]

Ok

https://vxtwitter.com/NoahGarfinkel/status/1833708370974695574

[weary coral]

Hilarious

[minor cosmos]

my weather app is where I get all my political commentary

[nimble furnace]

that is hilarious

[vapid nova]

another day is christory

[desert bridge]

I love that part in witch he confirms his pro 🇷🇺

[desert bridge]

Just populist lies to get more votes from people afraid of migrants

[desert bridge]

What he/she does? I can't look it up right now

[desert bridge]

🤮🤮🤮
Weird as f

[storm garden]

Fucking clown

Typical Trumptard behavior

Taylor Swift needs to sue Trump for using her image without permission to spread lies

[flat coral]

https://x.com/kamalahq/status/1833905765981003784?s=46

Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) on X

Our newest ad just dropped

Twitter · Sep 11, 2024, 4:29 PM

this is crazy LMAOOO

[nimble furnace]

https://x.com/stevienicks/status/1833910104695198169?s=61

Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) on X

As my friend @taylorswift13 so eloquently stated, now is the time to research and choose the candidate that speaks to you and your beliefs. Only 54 days left until the election. Make sure you are registered to vote! Your vote in this election may be one of the most important

Twitter · Sep 11, 2024, 4:46 PM

its SO over for trump

as soon as he said that about people eating cats and dogs it was over for him

[gusty verge]

“The government, trump especially should not. be. telling. women. what. to. do. witg. their. body” THIS IS WHAY I STAND FOR, WHAT TAYLOR STANDS FOR AND WHAT EVERYONE IN THIS SERVER SHOULD STAND FOR. KALAMA FOR PRESIDENT! (yes I’m from England but I’m very angry that trump is claiming he has nothing to do with project 2025 but kalama hq posted proof)

I FORGOT TO SAY ITS ALSO WHAT STEVIE NICKS STANDS FOR, DEFINITELY WHAT TRAV STANDS FOR AND I WILL NOT STAND UERE AND WATCH TRUMP WIN.

#KamalaForPresident (I’m from England)

[minor cosmos]

https://fxtwitter.com/kamalahq/status/1833905765981003784

[stoic lodge]

Is this just the entire debate?

[minor cosmos]

||yes||

[stoic lodge]

Oh lol nice. I watched the first question and was like wait a minute

[flat coral]

the crazy thing is there were a decent amount of people who thought trump won

I mean i guess trump supporters aren’t gonna admit that kamala won but idk how you can watch how badly he lost and still defend him

They did it in 2020 ig

[minor cosmos]

I think we shouldn’t tell everyone to vote for Kamala, we should instead make it clear that the election is secret and no one will know who you voted for

[minor cosmos]

because I assume there’s a ton of people that are stuck in Trump circles and want out

[royal badge]

Well I’m sure everyone in school (I hope) is taught that it’s a secret ballot

[minor cosmos]

There’s a lot of things people are taught in school that they don’t remember, just look into #meredith and their opinion on school

[hallow epoch]

Wait is it deadass just the enitre debate

Lmao if i kept reading i would get my answer

[hallow epoch]

It is technically secret who you voted for until you tell it yourself, but there should be more emphasis that there should be no pressure to tell who you voted for

[stoic lodge]

Keep #meredith in #meredith

[hallow epoch]

Im never EVER telling my parents cuz i dont wanna die lol

[minor cosmos]

oof, but also, very good point

[stoic lodge]

Huh

They would kill you?

[hallow epoch]

Probably not but im not taking the risk

Its like they are very ult right beliefs and i am very not so im never gonna out right tell them what i belief in fear they might kick me out and im not stable financially or mentally to live on my own

[weary coral]

As long as you have someone to talk to about your beliefs in order to get them out there and speak about it comfortably, then you’re good

[storm garden]

Conservative parents can be pretty wild

[stoic lodge]

Damn

[hallow epoch]

Yea my sister and my friends!

[weary coral]

Good!

[stoic lodge]

https://fxtwitter.com/govmikehuckabee/status/1049280125106343936

Guess how old they are now

We're so back

[slow imp]

????

[amber tree]

I forgot you can’t rlly bring up politics to people so I accidentally asked my best friend today and lunch who she supports and then my other friend goes “that’s not something you should ask people…” 😭 and then I apologized bc I forgot completely

[stoic lodge]

Nah you can definitely talk politics with your friends

[amber tree]

I mean I just know you normally don’t bring up politics with people bc it can get out of hand. But most of us do support Kamala so I wanted to have an honest conversation abt it 😭

[stoic lodge]

Even first dates

Let it get out of hand lmao know where your friends stand

[weary coral]

Is it different in US to Britain? It feels like it
Like we can disagree on who we support in the UK but not be polar opposites, whereas I feel in America it is much more dividing

[stoic lodge]

And choose who you surround yourself with

[stoic lodge]

It probably is different and more dividing in the us

[amber tree]

I mean, talking about politics is fine, but also isn’t asking who someone wants to vote for/ who they support a bit rude?

[stoic lodge]

It's Your friends

Not rude at all

[amber tree]

Oh?

[weary coral]

That’s the same…

[amber tree]

Well no like discussing what happened and then asking who you support is two different things?

[weary coral]

You’ll get to the same conclusion

‘I believe in x so I support candidate y’

[amber tree]

True-

[kind marsh]

ATE

[nimble furnace]

it depends on if ur gonna be respectful of their opinion

one of my best friends has very strong political views and so do i, we talk abt it every now and then and even tho our views are extremely different i can still respect his

[amber tree]

Well I obviously would be 💛 I get not everyone has the same views

I love a good debate tho

[nimble furnace]

honestly talking abt politics with friends is fun 😭

[amber tree]

I love talking abt politics

[minor cosmos]

With my good friends, we talk about politics a ton because we all know we’re decent human beings and our nuances are mostly about things like “how can we safely reduce the barrier for people to seek help with drug-related problems without endangering others” and not “should the gays be allowed to vote”, so at the end of the day everyone learned new things because we all bring new perspectives to the table

[slow imp]

I JUST SAW THIS ON TWITTER LMAO

pls look at context of what i replied to before saying anything thanks

[placid jacinth]

😭😭

[kindred burrow]

Facebook right wingers always doing the most. I need to delete the app

[stoic lodge]

looks at trump

[west wharf]

WHAT APP DO YOU HAVE!? I've literally been looking for weather app and I already love that one & i don't have it (yet)!

[wide pawn]

13 + 6 = 19

Voter registration sky rockets when she gets political. We love to see it

Hollywood rich people are a different breed of rich people. People in Hollywood actually meet a whole diverse network of people. They see that the stereotypes conservatives say are absolute lies.

Corporate rich people only meet their rich, mostly white male, friends. They're out of touch with Americans

I wouldn't exactly call Taylor a Hollywood person but same logic applies

[west plover]

megyn kelly isn't happy about swift's endorsement😂

not like she's been super relevant since she left fox news

[somber thunder]

Im not sure if it’s the same one but one of my friends has a weather app called carot and it basically just makes rude comments or political remarks

You can literally set its sarcasm level and stuff

[dapper sail]

Swifties I am back (mostly cause the NFL is back)

RFK Jr betrayed me and endorsed Trump (That was heartbreaking, now it literally is a vote for Trump according to him)

Guess I'm voting Kamala (reluctantly)

she better not let us down

Also, that debate was terrible. I think at this point I should just expect terrible debates if Trump is going to be there

[wide pawn]

I'm surprised Megan isn't blaming Trump for that

She gave Trump a legitimate question about his sexism and then he attacked her. That was like the start of the downfall of her career

[wide pawn]

Welcome back!

Is Kelce going to play this season, I coulda sworn he was supposed to retire

[unique terrace]

It's the brain worms my guy.

[frail marsh]

Honestly they both did. She fired the first shots with her opening statements. Their back and forth finger pointing and avoiding yes/no questions was so childish I felt like I was powerless watching two kids on a school playground bullying each other.

[wintry remnant]

I have concepts of a plan

[stoic lodge]

I would hope so after 9 years

[dapper sail]

It's Jason Kelce on the Eagles that retired, Travis Kelce is still playing

I think Travis Kelce has a couple more years

[keen crane]

Debates nowadays are literally more reality tv instead of civilized discussions. So heres my concept of a plan.. a 1v1 and whoever wins-

[dapper sail]

Apparently he tried to endorse Kamala and try to get a role in her adminstration but was denied so he went with Trump

[unique terrace]

That's so petty.

[dapper sail]

very disappointing cause I agreed with a lot of the things Kennedy pushed

[frail marsh]

You are sadly totally not wrong. I want to watch debates to hear what you are going to do, not what you think the other person will/will not do, what you think of the other person, etc.

Hit me with your plan and facts. Please. Don't out the gate start mudslinging.

[unique terrace]

Yeah, I wish the debate gave me a better idea of what the plans were.

[keen crane]

In their defense. They have 2 minutes to respond

[unique terrace]

Not that it would change who I'm voting for

[keen crane]

There should be an actual debate debate. Not a reality tv show debate

[frail marsh]

But they both spent those 2 minutes finger pointing and being childish.

[keen crane]

I could watch be watching the same exact thing on keeping up with the kardashians

[keen crane]

Well they are eating the cats and dogs

BUT

their main tactic is deflection. They dont want the heat persay so that deflect onto their opponent

[unique terrace]

Trump is incapable of debate.

[wide pawn]

What

[keen crane]

He is amazing for jersey shore tho get him a role

[frail marsh]

They both totally did that.

[keen crane]

I wanna see a trump vs abby lee miller here

[unique terrace]

Kamala gave lukewarm answers

[frail marsh]

It was annoying, especially when both were asked yes/no questions and both never gave a yes or no.

[unique terrace]

She did NOT take any firm stances

[frail marsh]

Straight up... just answer yes or no, then explain with your remaining time.

[unique terrace]

I know for a fact that's so she could appeal to the centrist vote

[keen crane]

Its also used in everyday life. Its more drastic in politics. ESPECIALLY presidential debates where every single thing it critiqued

[wide pawn]

Yeah, it's a winning strategy so I don't fault her

[unique terrace]

RIght. I understand it. That doesn't make me like it.

[keen crane]

Kamalas other main thing was like "regular old joe" tactic. The background stories and ethos (?) she used were her main tool

[wide pawn]

I mean generally you have to moderate to win the presidency. Trump tries it too, albeit very poorly

[frail marsh]

It sucks though and honestly expect presidential candidates (this goes for all of them, not just these two) to act more professional and own their stances.

[unique terrace]

The face responses said a lot though.

[frail marsh]

Deflection doesn't have a place in the seat of a country.

[keen crane]

Politics? Professional?

[wide pawn]

I'd be trying to hold my laughter too if someone I'm debating said people are eating cats and dogs 💀

[keen crane]

I feel like unfortanetly we as a society have somewhat accept this divide as the norm

[wintry remnant]

Wait...

[unique terrace]

I don't know how she didn't bust out laughing at the transgender alien surgery line

[wintry remnant]

The eating cats and dogs thing is real?

[unique terrace]

It's not

[wide pawn]

No

[wintry remnant]

Not even fucking conservatives thought that shit was real

[keen crane]

The fact he said it yes. The actual thing he was talking about is not

[wide pawn]

It was an isolated story about a duck and then internet memes turned it into cats

[unique terrace]

a goose actually

[stoic lodge]

Trump thought he was on webcast talking to his truth social followers

[wide pawn]

Yeah... and Trump decided to say cats and dogs on live TV

[keen crane]

THEYRE EATING THE DUCKS AND THE GEESE🔥🔥

[stoic lodge]

HE SAW SOMEONE ON TELEVISION SAY IT

[wide pawn]

Trump legit thought Kamala was weak and dumb and didn't prepare for a someone who'd actually go for him

[keen crane]

Oh yeah. You can see that he wasnt prepared for her. I think its something to do with like talk of her being "weak at debating" but keep in mind shes a literal prosecutor. Its her job

[unique terrace]

abortion in the 9th month, sometimes AFTER 😭

[stoic lodge]

and then when jd vance confronted saying that there's evidence to support that he's like "trust me bro that's what the people are saying"

[frail marsh]

Well... only halfbaked. It was a local native that did it, not someone from another country.

[wide pawn]

What's wild is that the Haitians he was talking about are actually legal immigrants

[stoic lodge]

Can't wait for vp debate

[keen crane]

"...President trump there is no state that allows after birth abortion"

[wide pawn]

Oh even better

[unique terrace]

The IMMEDIATE corrections on so many points.

[dapper sail]

Fr, it was really disappointing

[stoic lodge]

And jd vance says all the wrong things or says stuff that trump purposely avoids saying

[dapper sail]

I'm more of a bipartisan type of person

[unique terrace]

The fact that Trump hasn't discussed platforms with Vance

[dapper sail]

we need more bipartisanship and I thought Kennedy would be that guy but not really anymore

[frail marsh]

Apparently the police were called on some lady who was caught eating her cat. Police body cam footage showed fur on her mouth and blood on her. The local humane society allegedly came to help the cat.

[stoic lodge]

Trump got fact checked in like the first minute lmao

[keen crane]

I heard this from my ap us gov teacher and he was talking about how cnn is mad at the moderators bc "they only fact checked trump so they were picking on him" but some of the things he was saying were like common sense😭

[wide pawn]

Kamala is the only one getting bipartisan support rn. She even said she'd probably put a republican on her cabinet

[wintry remnant]

I'd like just one link from like AP or Reuters about someone eating their cat

Like enough of this hearsay shit just let me read an article

[unique terrace]

There's not much time to handle certain things like climate change. We do not have the luxury of gradual conversion for the far right.

[keen crane]

I still want a 1v1 tho

[wintry remnant]

The planet may be dead but did you see how high the stock price went up? Totes worth.

[frail marsh]

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/canton/ohio-woman-eat-cat-canton-police-bodycam-footage-arrest-springfield/95-204df879-5de1-4a07-9aab-10d19aca3ba4

[unique terrace]

It's the home grown Americans eating the cats.

[keen crane]

Wheres shane dawson..

[wide pawn]

Did he actually eat a cat

[keen crane]

No but it was alleged he had other relations with a cat i think

[frail marsh]

The fact checking would have been nice for both sides, though. If a lie or partial truth is told and only one side is red flagged, it really misleads people to have guided bias.

[stoic lodge]

Wish they wouldn't let trump get last word in every single time

[wide pawn]

There were way too many lies from Trump to fact check

[unique terrace]

Absolutely. But it's important to call out the outright falsehoods

[keen crane]

This is true. However its almost impossible to be able to fact check every single thing every single time

[wide pawn]

They do a coin flip to determine it

[stoic lodge]

No this was like after every question

[keen crane]

BUT they can predict what they will say and have the correct answers ready

[unique terrace]

To be fair, AP fact checks the debate and keeps a running list I believe.

[frail marsh]

Agreed, but it was heavily directed to one side.

[unique terrace]

PBS did a live fact check.

Like we can go through every statement.

[frail marsh]

Kinda wish someone would, and then stream it.

[unique terrace]

This is why it's important to do your own research

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/live-fact-check-trump-and-harris-meet-for-presidential-debate

[keen crane]

I do agree that it was more one-sided. and some people argue that the mods should just let trump say what hes gonna say. But my personal argument is that not everyone is going to or has the time to fact check every thing said. So its better to get the blatant and detrimental ones addressed

[stoic lodge]

Trump too coward to take second debate

[wide pawn]

I think I saw Kamala told 1 false claim and Trump told 30+

[dapper sail]

That'd be cool tbh

[stoic lodge]

Probably thinks he won this one and doesn't need to debate again

[frail marsh]

Very fair.

[dapper sail]

I feel like most people don't care enough about climate change tbh

[unique terrace]

that's the narrative that his campaign is pushing.

[dapper sail]

co2 emissions are going through the roof with celebrities and their private jets

[unique terrace]

Only the people who are going to experience the effects.

[unique terrace]

It's not individuals. It's corporations.

It's always been corporations.

[stoic lodge]

Yeah people thinking kamala wasn't fact checked at all are wild lol. She was just more truthful than trump

[wide pawn]

Corporations definitely make the most emissions

[dapper sail]

True, I think it's important to stop global warming

unfortunately not enough people care deeply about it

[keen crane]

But i do 100% agree that it was more one sided. But i think thats because they anticipated what he was gonna say

[frail marsh]

Honestly this. I actually got super sad when I saw Taylor's jet travel map from (iirc) last year.

[wide pawn]

Kamala was well prepared. Also shows just how predictable Trump is

[unique terrace]

It's literally too late to stop. We have to do damange control now or we will not have a planet habitable in the way we know it. We've known about climate change since the 60s.

We already have climate refugees because of water resource issues.

[keen crane]

In a way. Global warming is also a like natural thing. Think ice ages and such (i got this from my earth science teacher so i might be wrong) BUT humans are accelerating the processes

[frail marsh]

I hope that is what is was, and not an under the table peep show of questions. (I have seen that conspiracy circulating now.)

[unique terrace]

Desertification, the drying of the aral sea

the ice caps melting and releasing EVEN MORE gases

we're losing our planetary climate controls

[frail marsh]

Very detrimental effect on so much, including our food sources.

[unique terrace]

yes correct, we have cycles. but we are absolutely accelerating and you can see the trends

[keen crane]

Me too. But i understand the like idea of having a dedicated fact checker for both people and i do kinda like it because it eliminates the argument of unfairness

[keen crane]

Oh yeah. We're 100% fucked BUT its not like this unnatural world ending thing (in a way)

[frail marsh]

Agreed. Totally agreed. Would have been kinda neat to have a fact checker running figures on the side, one for each candidate.

[keen crane]

it would help. however fact checkers dont have all the facts to every extent infront of them so while it would 1000% potientially elimante "lies". it would be impossible for the fact checkers to call them out 100% of the time

but yes i agree it would be beneficial in almost everyway

[unique terrace]

that's why I linked the pbs fact check. They go through EVERYTHING.

[keen crane]

that has to take so much time 😭

[dapper sail]

PBS kids is goated

But the actual PBS is something else

[unique terrace]

yep. they're still updating it to make sure.

[dapper sail]

I just like the teletubbies

[unique terrace]

Thank you Mr. Rogers.

[keen crane]

STILL 😭 AS IN THEY COULDNT GET IT ALL 😭

[unique terrace]

as in they are not just pointing out the inaccuracies, they're writing information on why it is wrong, where the stats come from and then double checking that.

and then also saying what the facts are

[keen crane]

ohhh. thats actually really good on them

that takes even longer. i hugely appreciate and feel bad for them

[dapper sail]

I made a theory on why people stick with Trump in 2024

My theory is that he talks with such confidence and arrogance that it's impressive to people to the point where it became a cult following

His manipulation strategy is impressive yet concerning

[wide pawn]

Some ex-cult members actually do say Trump uses cult tactics

[dapper sail]

I could see it

I think of it like how people get overly passionate about sports (can relate to this)

you really want them to win so you end up developing an unhealthy passion for them

[wide pawn]

I mean the fear mongering and turning himself into someone who only he can save you from an enemy

[dapper sail]

I even almost fell for Trump's cult like ways but me personally, Trump just needs to shut his mouth and retire

I'm getting tired of his false claims about election fraud. It's getting old

You'd think by now he'd just admit the truth that he lost fair and square after being proven it was legitimate hundreds of times

[keen crane]

its also his persona in a way. like thats how hes branded himself

[dapper sail]

It's his terrible branding that makes me not want to vote him again

He would have had a better shot of winning in 2024 if he just gave the power to Biden in a professional manner

[keen crane]

politics also somewhat unfortanetly has a marketing side to it

[wide pawn]

Yeah, I mean that's basically why so many Republicans are endorsing Harris

He crossed a line that true conservatives dare not cross - and that's attacking democracy

All living former republican presidents and vice presidents are not endorsing trump

[dapper sail]

I personally call it just him being a sore loser

constantly a sore loser

To attack democracy truly would to make an attempt at getting rid of our voting rights

Trump is just a baby and can't accept the fact he lost

[stoic lodge]

Kamala

[minor cosmos]

https://www.meetcarrot.com/weather/

can highly recommend

[flat coral]

Im just so ready for this MAGA chapter of American politics to end

It’s been miserable

[wise tinsel]

I also saw this pic of where it said how many false claims they both made…
kamala just had one while trump had like…33

[unique terrace]

He's going to keep trying to run until he dies.

[stoic lodge]

Trump is self centered who makes every event/ceremony about him

Trump media stock down over 30% in a month lmao

[wide pawn]

The Harris-Walz friendship bracelets are available for pre-order!

https://store.kamalaharris.com/harris-walz-friendship-bracelets/ US shipping only

Also supports the campaign 🙂

[flat coral]

I’m never gonna get tired of people making fun of the shit trump said at the debate, it’s so funny 😭

[unique terrace]

Right? You either laugh or you cry

[flat coral]

I’ve been quoting the eating dogs thing constantly since the debate

[unique terrace]

I've been quoting the Biden "do 9/11" thing

[placid jacinth]

I can’t 😭💀

[unique terrace]

Like, I'm going to go to my meeting, eat a real lunch, and then I'm going to do 9/11

[flat coral]

how did he slip up that badly 😭😭

[unique terrace]

It's funny because he won't be president anymore

[placid jacinth]

There’s a reason why he ain’t running and I think that reason is far more than valid 😭😭

[stoic lodge]

Illegal alien eating cats

[placid jacinth]

Tasted like chicken!!!!!!! /j

[wide pawn]

Thank GOD he dropped out

[unique terrace]

Right? We can't have TWO presidents doing 9/11

[wide knoll]

what's happening in jail

[hallow epoch]

Wait trump dropped out????

[stoic lodge]

No. Biden did

[hallow epoch]

OH lmao

I got confusion my bad

[placid jacinth]

If that happened

Trust everyone in here would be spamming in happiness at 100 msgs per second

[stoic lodge]

Celebrations

[placid jacinth]

We can only dream

[hallow epoch]

True

[vapid nova]

that one makes me giggle also him sassing the trump supporter

[stoic lodge]

MTG and Loomer getting into it lmao

They both crazy and maga is imploding lmao

[wide pawn]

No biden

[minor cosmos]

see, one could make a point from this

[stoic lodge]

Trump keep running to stay out of JAIL

[unique terrace]

That's how it feels voting in an American election.

[noble flame]

https://meidasnews.com/news/desperate-trump-sells-swiftie-merch-after-taylor-swifts-endorsement-of-kamala-harris

This won’t end in a 10 minute version.

[weary coral]

Geez

[open cosmos]

Disgusting

[unique terrace]

lol. so he's saying he hates women

[wide pawn]

Lmao what

[weary coral]

Don’t give people like them air time

You’re arguing rightfully, but don’t give these misogynists the attention they want

[hallow epoch]

Not the fucking fresh n fit guy thats disgusting

Red pillers are gross in general

[dapper sail]

My landlord doesn't allow pets so ill go with the 2nd one

I'm kidding of course, that'd be painful

[stoic lodge]

Anyone have a pic of the trump swiftie shirt

Looking for a more higher res/full pic

[dapper sail]

It depends, sometimes they give good advice and other times they're just assholes

The whole "alpha male" shit got old fast

It seemed convincing at first but overtime, it became really annoying and full of sexism

Only good parts of it is to focus on important things, lift weights, eat healthy, be productive

Nowadays the redpilled community has really bad takes

[stoic lodge]

https://x.com/TeamTrump/status/1834238710105194643

Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump) on X

🚨NEW MERCH🚨

Calling all Swifties for Trump

Get your Trump Era shirt today 👉https://t.co/HkA7LwHhIC

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 2:32 PM

[dapper sail]

"Swifties for Trump" 😭

[open cosmos]

yikes he's desperate

[stoic lodge]

He keeps using that sinister looking picture the one below his mugshot

Trump Era

[wide pawn]

At least this is less cringe than his trading cards that show him as a superhero

[stoic lodge]

It's all cringe

[open cosmos]

His Nfts

[stoic lodge]

His shoes

Grifter

[cold bane]

Not him creating a new album between red and 1989, putting karma after 1989 and replacing midnights with reputation 💀

[true swift]

This real?

[wide pawn]

It's real lmao

When Trump was first told about Taylor endorsing Harris he got so pissed

[placid jacinth]

I wanna buy one just for the sole reason of torturing it

In terms of burning it throwing bleach on it

[placid jacinth]

I need to see his reaction 😭

[wide pawn]

He started going off about how he prefers Brittany Mahomes

And the Fox News staff has to also mention who she is because damn they know their audience doesn't care lmao

[placid jacinth]

Crazy 💀

[wide pawn]

He also said that she's gonna pay for it with her sales...

Like yeah, her endorsing Biden in 2020 definitely hurt her 🤣

[true swift]

I'm a trump supporter but that is just to far

[placid jacinth]

He’s feeling butt hurt about it 💀

[wide pawn]

I don't understand how far too far has to be for you to stop supporting this man

He's clearly insane, like actually insane

[west wharf]

You would be giving him money no matter what you did with the shirt, though

[placid jacinth]

Literally

Insane is an understatement

[placid jacinth]

Or if just get a plain white tee and just stamp that thing on the white tee and boom

[wide pawn]

If you go on Truth Social and see his unrestricted content you'd think he belongs in an insane asylum

Over 90% of his former cabinet members refuse to endorse him

Like, what is too far to you?

[true swift]

I agree in this case no need to go make merch just cause your salty that Taylor didn't endorsed you

[wide pawn]

I'm not even trying to hate you for this, I'm just trying to get in your head and understand your point of view

[west wharf]

If you want to. Feels like a lot of effort. But it's up to you.

I wouldn't worry about doing it, myself. But that's me.

[placid jacinth]

Not like I would nor do I have the time for it but it’d be a fun thing to just completely demolish the shirt

[hallow epoch]

No dont give him money 😭

[wide pawn]

Don't support his campaign website

[placid jacinth]

I won’t

[west wharf]

We literally just had that conversation

[true swift]

I wonder what Taylor is going to have to say about this

[placid jacinth]

About the shirt?

[true swift]

Yeah

[placid jacinth]

Tbh prob a lawsuit at minimum

[west wharf]

Copyright infringement

[true swift]

Yeah

[hallow epoch]

Im sorry i hadnt been able to read everything yet 😭

[west wharf]

AGAIN

[wide pawn]

I don't think it's a lawsuit. He can claim parody

Parody is legal

[true swift]

Ture

[wide pawn]

Did you see Elon Musk's tweet to Taylor? It was so gross

[true swift]

I saw that yeah that was gross

[west wharf]

Even after the ai picture he used?

There's precedence. He can try claiming parody, but would it work? Especially since he's making money off these shirts. (or at least trying to)

At least, that's what I'd think. Idk all the ins & outs & stuff

[true swift]

Well ABC news reports Trump wont do any more debats

[wide pawn]

AI is a legal grey area

[wide pawn]

Yeah, he lost the first one and doesn't want to lose again

[stoic lodge]

Trump is poopy

[true swift]

And ABC also reports Georgia judge tosses two more counts against Trump in election interference case

[west wharf]

Not when presented as being real. That's lying. Or whatever the legal term would be.

[wide pawn]

What Trump did in Georgia is crazy, like, even his republican allies said he lost

[west wharf]

I think a lawsuit could maybe be possible.

But if she sues him, she'd probably sue him over something she would have a better chance of winning

[stoic lodge]

Laura Loomer's response to Lindsey Graham urging Trump to ditch her? 'We all know you're gay'

Apparently loomer was on flight with trump to the debate and was the one telling him to say all that shit. And Trump listened to her lmao

She's also a 9/11 truther and trump invited to 9/11 memorial ceremony in NYC yesterday

Even the maga crazies think she's crazy

[hallow epoch]

Im sorry i gotta ask what is a 9/11 truther??? Like it happened thats a fact??? The twin towers fell??? Like wdym im sorry but i dont understand that term

[stoic lodge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_truth_movement

They think it was inside job. JET FUEL CANT MELT STEEL BEAMS etc

[kindred burrow]

Same old tired narrative 😴

[stoic lodge]

My aunt shared that on her fb page 💀

[hallow epoch]

😦

[kindred burrow]

It's all over my feed. I need to MOVE

[stoic lodge]

Yeah so having her at a the 9/11 ceremony in NYC is such a blatant F U

[true swift]

So apparently Kamala had these on during the debate

So someone was telling her the answers to each question

No wonder Trump dose not want to do another debate

[stoic lodge]

This is false

[kindred burrow]

that was debunked

[true swift]

Oh

[stoic lodge]

She was wearing a different pair

[true swift]

That just looked smiler I guess

[stoic lodge]

And this is exactly what trump counts on spewing his hate and lies

CATBURGERS! They made me eat a goddamn Haitian CATBURGER!

[kindred burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-surprised-stare-cat-stare-cat-stunned-cat-surprised-gif-8876880973939382846

[wide pawn]

Omg 🤣

Okay I don't like her but she's funny

Lindsey Graham definitely always struck me as one of those closeted homophobes

[flat coral]

kamala would smoke trump even on fox

i wish her team would just agree to a fox debate to prove that she’s just better

although i guess it’s out of their control by now cause trump wont debate again

[vague canopy]

thats actually so true..

but fox could try to hop on the fact-checking trend and false fact-check

idk i dont watch fox idk what they do 😭

[west wharf]

Why? I mean, I understand what you're thinking.

But why prove it a second time when they already did?

He'll still deny it. He is incapable of accepting defeat. Not without saying it was because of cheating or whatever to escape accountability.

[wide pawn]

Trump actually is accusing Fox anchors of being too bias for a second debate

He's like backing out completely

[flat coral]

The conservatives are saying trump won cause it was a “3 on 1”

I know harris won this debate but a lot of people don’t think so

I get what you’re saying too tho

[west wharf]

It's called being in denial. It's common when someone loses.

[stoic lodge]

Trump is a coward

[west wharf]

Obviously

[stoic lodge]

According to a recent Gallup analysis, young women are more liberal than they’ve been in decades and more politically motivated than past generations.

Going after swifties is a bold strategy lmao 💀

[unique terrace]

The only thing I agree with that dude about is that Taylor's endorsement is going to matter.

Really

[vapid nova]

kamala using all these Taylor Swift audios is so satisfying

[flat coral]

For sure it’s just shocking how many people I’ve seen who thought he won

It’s probably partially on me for browsing twitter cause it’s like THE right wing app

[wide pawn]

Basically every republican governor in a state biden won admitted biden won

There's video of Doug Ducey ignoring Trump's phone call when he was certifying the Arizona election results lol

[stoic lodge]

That was awesome lol even though ducey sucked

https://youtu.be/idLFoJ5QoLc?si=OJaKNQSntcrGO368

How tf do you fail an ice cream business in ARIZONA lmao

[dapper sail]

I'm sure there's a lot of competition when it comes to ice cream businesses in Arizona

But there should still be plenty of people no matter what trying to get ice cream

[dapper sail]

Are the other 10% choosing the right person?

I dont actually listen to Taylor Swift tbh

[desert bridge]

No. She doesn't write songs only about ex boyfriends.

[bleak thunder]

https://youtu.be/kInc14pD9_w

These people are actually crazy

[dreamy cradle]

I love how in the debate from the few days ago that Donald Trump admitted to us/American People that he has no plan of rebuilding America

[stoic lodge]

But he has concepts of a plan

[rapid turtle]

So in fancy words he has a plan but at the same time no plan

[stoic lodge]

Give him a break he only had 9 years to come up with something

[unique terrace]

y'all have to stop engaging with hate content.

[wide pawn]

They're not even worthy of giving them viewing numbers

Taylor endorsed Biden in 2020 and went on to break world records on sales and streaming

[vapid nova]

thought you said you hated donald

[vapid nova]

college football > nfl (for me) i find professional boring

[vapid nova]

also just saying kamala is definitely willing to have bipartisan leadership

ALSO while the jokes about cats and dogs are funny we should remember Trump's words have real life consequences https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/13/springfield-ohio-bomb-threat

[stoic lodge]

Immigrants eating cats and dogs is also a racist trope

[unique terrace]

yep

[bleak thunder]

The problem is that I thought they were saying something nice about Taylor - it took me a while to realize that they were slandering

[weary coral]

May I ask why you are a Trump supporter

[stoic lodge]

MAGA civil war rn

[true swift]

Huh?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[stoic lodge]

Loomer is new trump BFF and even MTG and Lindsey Graham are calling her racist lmao

[true swift]

Oh

[stoic lodge]

Like if MTG is somehow the voice of reason something is seriously messed up

[true swift]

https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-noted-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-1306663699157096677

[stoic lodge]

So now they just eating each other's faces

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/hot/

[gusty verge]

LOVE HOW KAMALA IS MAKIKG IT CLEAR SHES A SWIFTIE NOW IS SO GOOD, WHAT A WAY TO GAIN VOTRS AND GET CLOSER TO YOUR VOTER

[stoic lodge]

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jr-restaurant-owner/#cxrecs_s

lmao

[weary coral]

This is worded really poorly

So the restaurant owner said that he lost half the customers because he himself supported Trump?
Or because Trump’s son supported him?

[stoic lodge]

Don trump Jr confronted by restaurant owner who lost half his business because he (the restaurant owner) put up a billboard supporting Donald Trump

[keen crane]

i just saw something that texas and florida move into swing state status as of sept 6

[dapper sail]

I did, I was kidding about that comment

[dapper sail]

I still hear that trope used against Asians but id never expect it to be used against Haitians

Racism is not cool, people gotta stop being like that

It's unfortunate people still take bad things that have happened by someone who just so happened to be a certain race and use it to justify racism

[frosty cedar]

hello anyone

anyoneee?

@dapper sail oops sorry

[dapper sail]

Dw I'm still here

[frosty cedar]

oh

well I support donald

even though taylor likes kamala, im not gonna freak out at her

because I genuentally love taylor swift

even as a boy, I don't really mind her vote.

its only annoying because now all the swifties may follow her, or freak out on her which I hope doesnt happen

[left river]

Wdym swifties may follow her or freak out

[dapper sail]

You'd be surprised how some people are with politics in this country

[frosty cedar]

ikrrr

[frosty cedar]

bro, freaking out meaning going against the vote

[dapper sail]

Both sides have those people who make you seem like a bad person for voting for people they disagree with

[frosty cedar]

ye

[dapper sail]

How I approach politics is that its important but it shouldn't divide friendships

We're not living in North Korea, we have lots of freedom

[unique terrace]

It shouldn't divide friendships unless it's literally a matter of human rights.

In this case, it actually is.

[open cosmos]

Exactly

[unique terrace]

I like having access to birth control tyvm

Not trying to have kids ever

[dapper sail]

I do see that argument as well as the roe v wade overturn (in my opinion was a bad idea to overturn it) but its also important to understand others (especially pro-life women) that abortion is not an innocent thing

[open cosmos]

Kamala has to win or millions of peoples lives are at stake

[vapid nova]

well the dog and cat eating stuff DIDN'T happen i feel as though thats important to stress it DID NOT happen in ohio

[frosty cedar]

bro

trump has to win (sorry for the bro lol)

[unique terrace]

I totally support women's right to support whatever they want or don't want to do to their own bodies. I can understand pro lifers. I get it. It's not scientifically sound but it's part of their religious expression.
But I also have a right to not be governed by their religious beliefs.

[dapper sail]

I try to look at it in different POV's to understand why they believe what they believe

[open cosmos]

Yes then america is ruined and millions of people have to fear for their life

[vapid nova]

they are not harming people by getting abortions so it is innocent lol its a medical procedure i know what they believe but that doesn't mean everyone else has to follow their beliefs thats all being prochoice is you can be prolife for yourself but you don't need to make that choice for other people. thats kind of the whole point.

[frosty cedar]

bro -

do you see how migrants are entering our country and invading.

[dapper sail]

I also agree with this as well, the government shouldn't be tampering with abortion especially since 15 states banned abortion entirely which is ridiculous

[open cosmos]

That's not happening

[frosty cedar]

that explains one thing thats wrong

[vapid nova]

oh this is a ban

[frosty cedar]

what?

how?

[dapper sail]

I think Odd is referring to illegal immigrants

[frosty cedar]

yes.

[unique terrace]

That's the problem with ditching roe. Not only is it affecting people who don't want kids. It's also affecting couples who REALLY REALLY want kids.

[frosty cedar]

sorry for the confusion -

[dapper sail]

True, morally I'm pro-life but politically I'm pro-choice cause I dont like abortion but I'm also not a woman so it does feel wrong to control what they wanna do with their body

[frosty cedar]

I feel that in the debate it was just so confusing.

[unique terrace]

That's also not accurate.

[frosty cedar]

I dont know.

[unique terrace]

If you don't know, don't comment on it until you're educated on it.

[frosty cedar]

I'm not really even into politics, even though I wanted to see what people were saying.

[unique terrace]

And MOST Americans feel similarly about the choice.

[vapid nova]

there are racist undertones to this rhetoric, whether you intended them to be there or not. Also this is not meant to be disparaging at all but are you old enough to vote?

[dapper sail]

The main reason people hate abortion is that there is a human life (or what would've been a human life) in there so many Republicans (even Mitt Romney) take abortion very seriously and don't find it innocent at all

[frosty cedar]

Nope.

[unique terrace]

Shit like that uninformed comment is offensive and just factually incorrect. It's statements like the one you made that make people feel unwelcome and don't invite informed discourse. Don't engage if you aren't going to be bigoted here.

[vapid nova]

a fetus is not a child but im not arguing with someone who misunderstood what I was saying that you can dislike abortions and still understand its not the governments job to control a woman's body

[left river]

Not many people in this country are educated lol especially trump supporters.

[unique terrace]

There are. Because there are plenty of white european illegal aliens too. The right doesn't tend to complain about them. You hear them talk about Mexico and South America.

[vapid nova]

i think they just meant they aren't of voting age not about the racial undertones lol

[frosty cedar]

mhm

[dapper sail]

True, most Republican voters probably don't care much about the abortion topic except for Catholics or other christian denominations who are super passionate about that topic

[vapid nova]

and if I explain that banning abortion is against my religion those same people get very upset its all a thing

[dapper sail]

Thats where republicans believe the fetus is a child, but regardless I do believe state governments shouldn't control abortion laws as they aren't doing a good job of it

[vapid nova]

not all republicans believe that lol

[unique terrace]

Right. Most Americans are on the same page about having the choice though and it's crazy how politicians can ignore the beliefs of their constituency.

There's a very vocal minority here.

[dapper sail]

Mostly the ones in office, I dont know many passionate pro-lifers irl

[vapid nova]

and as for religious reasoning in my religion

*"If a woman is at risk of death while giving birth, the fetus can and should be destroyed to save her because her life outweighs its potential life. It is considered a mitzvah, a commandment, to save the life of a mother when she is at risk of life-threatening complications such as an ectopic pregnancy or an incomplete spontaneous miscarriage.

There are different rationales for this. The medieval French rabbi Rashi says it is permissible to terminate a pregnancy because the fetus is not yet a human life.

Maimonides (also known as the Rambam), another major medieval Jewish thinker, takes a different approach. He says a fetus after 40 days gestation is a human life, but if its birth threatens the mother's life, it is a "pursuer" (rodef in Hebrew), a human who is trying to kill another human. You can and should terminate the pregnancy if the fetus threatens the life of the mother."*

[stoic lodge]

What does this even mean

[open cosmos]

All Republicans care about is controlling what other people do with their own body lol

[vapid nova]

fun fact the republican party and conservatives were not against abortion until very recently https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8274866/

[frosty cedar]

I'm a boy: I don't mind who people vote.

[stoic lodge]

Why does it matter?

[unique terrace]

It's interesting that you say that, because privately, most of these people don't actually care about abortion. They just care that other people care about it. They're rich and older and don't have to deal with it because they can pay a private doctor to perform the procedure whether it's legal or not.

[stoic lodge]

Do you start every post with "as a boy, ..."

[open cosmos]

How does a roblox kid even fall down the trump rabbit hole to begin with lol

[frosty cedar]

???

[unique terrace]

redpill youtube?

[stoic lodge]

💀

[frosty cedar]

How does a fortnite player argue with me lol (im kidding (im nicer than that))

[dapper sail]

For political history that is pretty recent compared to when the party first originated. I wonder why they went to caring about abortion so much

[frosty cedar]

I can get really mad about some votes though, so I'm not as much "nice" as I say 😭

[vapid nova]

says so in the piece trying to bring more voters in to the republican party as Catholics became affluent

[dapper sail]

Yeah true, they probably don't care as much as they say they do to their following

[dapper sail]

Ah, they were just trying to get the catholic vote

[frosty cedar]

Eventually, hope I become president and fix the country a bit 🙏

[vapid nova]

Also for everyone unaware the fetus at the center of the Roe v Wade case was not aborted

[dapper sail]

If I was president, I'd solve world hunger by giving people food

[vapid nova]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/daughter-jane-roe-woman-landmark-abortion-case-terms/story?id=80329351

[frosty cedar]

Smart

[frosty cedar]

What is that about?

[dapper sail]

Tbh the US has the income to solve world hunger and same with the billionaires in the US

They just don't care enough to unfortunately and/or the governments that recieve that money don't use it for that purpose

[frosty cedar]

They should lower tax for poor and raise for rich

[unique terrace]

We have plenty of food in this country to feed everyone. We just have a lot of waste. Most produce that doesn't look "perfect" enough for the grocery store gets either trashed or sent for animal feed. It could be sold just fine or donated but we don't for some reason.

Just like we have plenty of housing. We could house the entire homeless population with the vacant properties in the country.

[dapper sail]

True, too much food waste

[frosty cedar]

Yes, that is true.

[unique terrace]

But we don't because conservatives tend to view this as "handouts"

[frosty cedar]

But they don’t do that because they want money

[unique terrace]

In reality, providing aid and getting people back on their feet, showing them some human decency and restoring dignity helps people motivate themselves to stay that way.

[dapper sail]

I used to be a dishwasher for a restaurant and I'd see plates come back hardly touched and it makes me think, why don't we give food to people who need it

60% of the time the food was nowhere near done on their plates too

[frosty cedar]

Yeah, I’ve seen it before.

[vapid nova]

roblox how old are you im curious lol

[frosty cedar]

“curious refers to a daily word that means confusion (wondering)”

[unique terrace]

Finland has almost eradicated homelessness by providing housing and living stipends to those in need. https://www.huduser.gov/portal/pdredge/pdr-edge-international-philanthropic-071123.html#:~:text=In the latter years of,how nations can address homelessness.

[vapid nova]

thats not even right 😭

[frosty cedar]

In my words.

[unique terrace]

bro. if you don't want to say your exact age, you can say not voting age or under 18 or whatever. If you're not at least 13 though you have to get out of here.

[vapid nova]

thats not what curious means though

[frosty cedar]

Then I’ll tell you I’m under 18.

[vapid nova]

favorite taylor swift song?

[frosty cedar]

Uhhhhhh

None.

[marsh panther]

huh

Interesting

[open cosmos]

???????

[frosty cedar]

I don’t really have a “favorite”

[vapid nova]

then why lie

[marsh panther]

So fresh join you jump right to the election thread and say you like trump just to say you don't even have a fave?

[frosty cedar]

I’m not lying?

[vapid nova]

first taylor album you listened to then

[frosty cedar]

Lover

[weary coral]

If you want an autocrat, yes

[vapid nova]

was it like the first time you heard of her or just first album you listened to in full

[weary coral]

What about when Trump lobbied against the most conservative border bill??

[frosty cedar]

I don’t -

[weary coral]

Huh?

[frosty cedar]

nvm 😔

[weary coral]

Give your point

[marsh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[open cosmos]

Trump winning means a Christian nationalist dictatorship

Where women and people of color are treated as less than human and being lgbtq+ is illegal

[frosty cedar]

I’m done in this event

I’ll go back to not being here 🤦‍♂️

[unique terrace]

Imagine being me and all 3!

[marsh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[placid jacinth]

What’s going on 💀

[open cosmos]

A roblox kid being pro trump lol

[vapid nova]

idk but they need to hurry up before mikeey's movie previews end

[frosty cedar]

idgaf, my choice is my choice.

[vapid nova]

genuinely asking if you are over the age of 13

[weary coral]

I get where you’re coming from, but it’s overstating it

If a national abortion ban is given to Trump’s desk, he will sign it

As for LGBTQ+, whilst yes there would be gradual implementation of book banning etc, it wouldn’t be ‘illegal’ to be gay, but it would be much harder to get healthcare etc

So just be careful when talking about this, because even though you have the base of it correct, people will deem your argument as invalid because you can’t provide proof that certain things will become illegal

[unique terrace]

If you're going to be hostile about it, we're going to have to force you to leave.

[frosty cedar]

They are the one -

[weary coral]

What

[open cosmos]

Republicans fully plan to make being lgbtq illegal yes

That's a huge part of project 2025

[minor cosmos]

After reading through this chat, I truly believe you are just letting whatever braincell is currently firing take the wheel.

[placid jacinth]

Crazy

[unique terrace]

People are genuinely asking you about your beliefs and why you support them in a channel dedicated to this discourse. If you can't be civil, you will be banned. A new user like you does not have active user privileges yet.

[vapid nova]

he is NOT placing in dress to impress I can tell you that