US Politics

[dapper sail]

After listening to the 2nd one, she seems pretty well spoken. To confirm that she is the better one to vote however, we'll need to see a debate against Trump and Kamala (if they'll ever agree to one)

Regardless, I'm not voting for Trump but if Kamala looks too weak in the debate, I'll have some doubts on voting her

Has Kamala found her VP yet?

[vapid nova]

tonight or tomorrow

[flat coral]

https://x.com/politics_polls/status/1820524130715967873?s=46

Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) on X

#NEW @NateSilver538 Forecast:

Chance of winning:
Harris 53%
Trump 46%
.
Electoral votes:
Harris 282
Trump 255

Twitter · Aug 5, 2024, 6:15 PM

I’m pretty sure this guy was a big Trump guy in the past

Obviously polls aren’t definite but it gives me a lot of hope

[glad estuary]

looks like it's gonna be governor of MN or PA

[flat coral]

I think either would be pretty good

[glad estuary]

i'm more for shapiro but it's going to be a good choice

[flat coral]

I’m from PA so I’ve got some shapiro bias but I’ve mostly seen people preferring the other guy

[glad estuary]

because of some of his opinions

[stoic lodge]

I wanted kelly

[flat coral]

I’ve seen a lot of discussion about the school voucher stuff which I don’t fully understand

Like idk what that even really is 😭

[stoic lodge]

Absolutely incredible how they always double/triple down on these things:

JD Vance’s Wife: My Husband Only Meant to Insult People Who Actively Choose Not to Have Kids, Not People Who Are Trying but Are Unsuccessful

[wide pawn]

Kamala's VP will likely be announced tomorrow

She's already planned to campaign in Pennsylvania with her VP pick this week

Honestly her vp pick will not affect my vote personally but I hope she picks the best one regardless

[dapper sail]

I have a friend that tells me I should vote for Trump (again)

But I dont wanna vote him again 😭

I forget why I still discuss politics when I'm so indecisive

I get bored I guess

[pine quest]

do your research brodie

[placid jacinth]

Fr

Did I miss anything major

[rich flume]

Why do these videos appear in my fyp 😭😭

[dapper sail]

So I did this test from this website called "ISideWith" and these are my results

I got Kennedy (no surprise there)

Trump at 71%
Kamala at 44% 😭

If only Kennedy didn't do stupid Logan Paul type of pranks and throw a bear on the side of the road and blame it on a bicyclist

If only Trump didn't commit multiple felonies and act like a big baby about losing the 2020 election

I dont even know who Peter Sonski is 😭

[placid jacinth]

Wdym if only?

If only bro had good fucking policies and didn’t commit felons then maybe

[dapper sail]

If Trump didn't commit multiple felonies and acted like a big baby, he wouldn't have been so bad

Idk the website told me I aligned 71% with Trump

and Kamala at 44%

The main thing I dislike about Trump is how childish he acts and of course, the felonies

[placid jacinth]

The policies???

[wintry remnant]

I got bored and also did ISideWith, doing this every 4 years is kinda fun

Skipped over the non-policy questions or policies I didn't know enough about

[dapper sail]

In terms of policies, yep

[dapper sail]

honestly I was surprised considering I don't really like Trump anymore

I know I was a former republican but that was just because my friend convinced me to be

[wintry remnant]

Never hear of this Cornel West guy given these percentages, he must be based as hell

[dapper sail]

I think I got 60% Cornel West

I exited it so now I have to redo it to see

[wintry remnant]

Man, I love Climate Denial

[dapper sail]

I would've said yes too

global warming is not a natural occurrence 😭

[wintry remnant]

Man got shot in the head and still on that side of the fence. At this point, I respect the hustle.

[dapper sail]

I would've said Yes too

seems way too easy to get a gun in the US

[wintry remnant]

I mean, he got shot near his head and a bit of shrapnel scraped his ear and now he's milking it to hell and back

[dapper sail]

Yeah Trump be crazy

idk how I got 71% his policies

I definitely didn't agree with him on his gun policies

[wintry remnant]

This is straight up anime.

[dapper sail]

Oddly enough, I did say yes to this mostly because most gun owners in the US will not hand over their guns to the government

it's just not gonna happen sadly

teachers gotta protect their students somehow

[wintry remnant]

I feel like that reasoning is such a reach that it's outside the scope of the question

Also, I'll be real

[stoic lodge]

Imagine voting for Trump 3 times 💀

[wintry remnant]

And I think this is a critical blind spot for people who think everyone should be carrying a gun

If I'm running away

And I see my teacher holding a gun

I'll think he's the shooter

Like, there's literally no guarantee that the people shooting are "the good guy" shooting "the bad guy"

[dapper sail]

Guns are scary to me; thinking about it now, a teacher having a gun would also concern me

[wintry remnant]

All I will see are people shooting each other

And if I have a gun, there's a 50/50 chance I'll know I'm shooting the right person

And suppose a fourth party who also has a gun now sees this situation

[stoic lodge]

More likely to shoot someone else on accident I feel

[wintry remnant]

There's an even lesser chance he'll know what the fuck is going on

[dapper sail]

Looking back at it, I would have probably went with "No, hire professionally trained security guards instead"

[wintry remnant]

The police are already disorganized

Private citizens are even moreso

[dapper sail]

which would have made me agree with RFK Jr even more

[wintry remnant]

If you let random ass people carry and your reasoning is "It'll help them defend", nah, that'll just cause a comical situation

[dapper sail]

I wasn't old enough to vote in 2016, in 2020 I did, in 2024 I don't plan on voting him

[dapper sail]

Yeah that may not be the best idea thinking about it now having random teachers having guns

sure they may receive training but that may not be a good idea

[wintry remnant]

Training doesn't give you Perfect Knowledge

A shooter shows up to a mall and now 11 people are shooting each other because everyone thinks everyone else is the bad guy

[dapper sail]

cause you may not entirely know where the shooter is at if you hear a ton of bullets

so you don't know who is the shooter

[stoic lodge]

Didn't cops shoot a guy trying to help in a mass shooting

[dapper sail]

I wouldn't be surprised if that did happen

[wintry remnant]

I don't exactly agree with police having military-grade hardware but at least you know that the SWAT team is the SWAT team and thus not a target

[dapper sail]

Personally I'll make an exception if it's an extreme case they're trying to solve

but for most cases, nah they don't need military-grade hardware

[wintry remnant]

What's hilariously paradoxical about the "teachers should carry in schools" is like

A lot of school shootings are done by students, i.e. a person who's meant to be there holding hardware they shouldn't

[dapper sail]

True

[wintry remnant]

So if you let a teacher have a gun

You've probably made the difficulty of starting a school shooting way lower

Since the gun is now in the building

[stoic lodge]

https://www.5280.com/why-was-a-man-who-stopped-a-mass-shooting-shot-and-killed-by-arvada-police/

[wintry remnant]

Being held by a person who by all accounts should not be expected to have one

[stoic lodge]

Rnage hours gonna be part of teaching certificate?

[wintry remnant]

Casual Antivax moment

Landlords on the bottom right there

That's funny.

[pine quest]

not even american but, damn 😭

[dapper sail]

2nd Kennedy supporter

[pine quest]

i’m not

[dapper sail]

damn

😭

[pine quest]

it says im voting for democrat 😭

if i was american

[dapper sail]

I was hit or miss on that one

I think the EC just needs more balancing

[pine quest]

a lot of the questions had me wondering

[wintry remnant]

The EC needing balancing is antithetical to the EC

[pine quest]

i think taking the quiz multiple times would be healthier

[wintry remnant]

The point of the EC is to balance out people voting

[dapper sail]

I made an exception for religious reasons only but for the most part, I agree we should be vaccinating our children

[pine quest]

apparently some people actually want ai to be involved in the criminal justice system

whatever that means

[dapper sail]

This one is an obvious yes of course

[pine quest]

ai totally has morals and empathy

[dapper sail]

Totally, it totally wont take over the world

[wintry remnant]

AI can't even read correctly so

[pine quest]

concerned that its even a question

[stoic lodge]

AI doesn't know how many fingers are on a hand

[flat coral]

94% kamala 1% trump 😭

surprisingly 77% for Kennedy

i don’t like him very much

[dapper sail]

Tbh Kennedy is the middle ground type

That's why I was for him

It's unfortunate he's also a bit crazy

[stoic lodge]

a bit crazy is an understatement

[wintry remnant]

A bit crazy is an understatement.

[scenic veldt]

Kennedy is literally a conspiracy theorist idk how anybody can support him…

Kamal Harris is the one qualified candidate in this election period

Alsooo VP PICK COMING in a few hourssssss

I’m so excited

[storm garden]

that is a British-level understatement

[scenic veldt]

Feels like a new TS album lol

[storm garden]

I had a weird dream where Taylor invited VP Harris on stage for one of the few Eras US shows remaining

[scenic veldt]

Lmao

That’d be kinda cool when she has her fall shows tho

[storm garden]

VP Harris won't campaign in Louisiana; its a solid red state

[scenic veldt]

Yea or Florida

Where even are the fall shows, New Orleans Canada and FL?

[storm garden]

but the audience will be from all over the US, plus an in-person endorsement from Taylor Swift

[scenic veldt]

Yea but either way Taylor’s gonna endorse her online around September probably

[storm garden]

that's gotta be worth 25,000 votes across some battleground states

[scenic veldt]

And then say stuff during the shows

She needs to rally those PA voters

So then not picking Shapiro won’t have hurt

[storm garden]

we're going to hear if its VP candidate Shapiro or Walz tonight

tomorrow morning depends on where you are

[scenic veldt]

It’s gonna be Walz trust

Also I thought the spelling was waltz this whole time too 😭😭

[storm garden]

I don't subscribe to the 'running mate secures a home state' philosophy either

that hasn't been true for some time

[scenic veldt]

I do cause they do

Not always tho but when it’s a swing state

Obviously a democratic running mate from like Oklahoma isn’t gonna turn it blue and vice versa

[storm garden]

delivering PA? might be worth the baggage associated with Shapiro

[scenic veldt]

She’s gonna get PA regardless if she campaigns well

Walz will give her the whole Rust belt

[storm garden]

black union workers - there's Michigan

[scenic veldt]

Isn’t Shapiro not good with unions

[storm garden]

Wisconsin will be harder for her to campaign in

[scenic veldt]

No if she loses Wisconsin she’s probably going to lose the entire election

Cmon Wisconsin is purple but it’s practically blue

She can’t and won’t lose Wisconsin

Wisconsin is the bare minimum if they can’t pull that then they’re not going to get Michigan PA any of the others

[wide pawn]

She basically needs Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania

And even then she'd win with the bare minimum at 270

Nevada has been skewing more and more conservative as well

[storm garden]

Georgia is in play

[wide pawn]

Oh right, Biden couldn't win Georgia but Kamala definitely can

She could lose Wisconsin if she wins Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania

Although, WI, MI, and PA tend to vote very similar in elections

[stoic lodge]

And Indianapolis

[storm garden]

CNN: Tim Walz is VP Candidate

[dapper sail]

First time I've heard of that person

[stoic lodge]

his name was being tossed around

[flat coral]

Minnesota governor I believe

[stoic lodge]

Correct

Damn good pick though I wanted Kelly

Better than Shapiro

[glad estuary]

i wanted shapiro but still a good pick

everybody there was cool ngl

[dapper sail]

He was just announced and people are already on the attack 😭

Can't go a day without someone being announced for VP candidacy without some sort of drama brewing

No "good luck" or "congratulations"

Twitter 😭

[glad estuary]

wait so this dude was going to be vp and she picked someone else?

[dapper sail]

omg it's John Shapiro

wait this is the wrong Shapiro

Close enough

[glad estuary]

😭

josh shapiro is the pa governor 😭

[vapid nova]

thats ben shapiro they are VERY different

one can listen to WAP the other cannot

[dapper sail]

They aren't even blood related?

[dapper sail]

Ben Shapiro can rap (in a cringe way)

[vapid nova]

shapiro is a common last name

[sonic oyster]

Ew what is it I'm scared

[dapper sail]

Definitely blood related

Could totally see it

[vapid nova]

they literally aren't

[dapper sail]

Damn, I was hoping they were, that would've been funny

[vapid nova]

https://x.com/JoshShapiroPA/status/1126932159544086528?lang=en

Josh Shapiro (@JoshShapiroPA) on X

For the record, I am not related to Ben Shapiro.

Twitter · May 10, 2019, 7:28 PM

[glad estuary]

they're both jewish tho

[vapid nova]

okay and ..

[dapper sail]

Its a good thing he pointed that out

[scenic veldt]

ITS TIME WALZ YALL

YOUR NEXT VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

She chose Tim Walz

[vapid nova]

he is um very homophobic (sorry back reading) "As a proponent of Christian democracy, Sonski supports a consistent life ethic, being against abortion, capital punishment, and euthanasia. He additionally supports social justice initiatives. He is against the legalization of same sex marriage and believes that gay couples should not have the same adoption rights as straight couples. He has endorsed Robert P. George's initiative to rebrand June as Fidelity Month. He believes the US should continue to support Ukraine."

[dapper sail]

He seems very problematic

[stoic lodge]

Conservatives are saying walz is a radical leftist because free school lunches is communism

[vapid nova]

they never experienced a school that had free lunch for everyone because of the median household income huh

[glad estuary]

lmao they still put AOC and walz in one group

[weary coral]

Didn’t see Walz being VP

Is that a good thing? Or are him and Kelly similar?

[stoic lodge]

Good thing

[naive robin]

same person who signed for taylor day in minnesota lol

[stoic lodge]

Kelly and Shapiro fighting in senate in AZ and PA

LFG!!!

[flat owl]

THANK GOD she picked Walz!!!

Shapiro has way too much baggage

[wide pawn]

The more research I did on Shapiro the more I disliked him

So yeah, glad she didn't

[stoic lodge]

Yeah Shapiro would be bad

Kelly tho

[flat owl]

Mark Kelly is needed for senate seats

Arizona is too purple to risk that and he’s very popular

[pine quest]

has she officially picked her vp?

[marsh panther]

yessir

[weary coral]

What are his stances on things?
I don’t think he called for a ceasefire right?

[wide pawn]

Thank you! Glad I'm not the only one saying this

His seat is super important

[wide pawn]

He's pretty pro-Israel

I mean he's good for infrastructure but bad for Gaza

[vapid nova]

How do we feel about Walz

idk much about him

[marsh panther]

from what i've seen he's good

[weary coral]

Makes sense too

[pine quest]

now we just wait for the debate

[wintry remnant]

What debate lmao

The coward dropped out

[weary coral]

Sept 10th: ‘The Democrats candidate - Kamala Harris!’
‘And The Republican candidate, who is not with us today!’

[flat coral]

I already liked Walz but I keep seeing more of him and I just keep loving him even more 😭 such an amazing pick

[pine quest]

yeah i was gonna say “if its actually happening” but then i thought theres no way it wont happen… right?

[flat coral]

there’s a chance

trump is such a coward though

after not saying he won’t show up to kamala’s debate he scheduled his own to be like “yeah if you even show up…” like dude you are the one not showing up

[flat owl]

JD dropped out of the debate against Kamala when Biden was still running

He won’t debate Walz

[pine quest]

is this hurting trump?

[flat coral]

for sure

walz is a lot more appealing to moderates than vance

[scenic veldt]

Super good he was the most progressive out of the contenders

And he appeals to moderates too

Progressives moderates both happy

A United Democratic Party = exactly what we need

[stoic lodge]

Yes it's absolutely incredible the dems didn't start infighting after Biden dropped out

Quickly unified and got behind harris without missing a beat

[scenic veldt]

Yea exactly

Just hope the stock market crash yesterday recovers soon

The damn fed needs to lower those interest rates before September

We can’t afford employment rising

That’s gonna be good for Trump

[vapid nova]

im in a gc that we added doug emhoff )kamala’s husband) to and its so funny sometimes

[weary coral]

How did you add him?? 😭

[flat coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031331736891703336/1270492622020153406/image0.jpg?ex=66b3e5f5&is=66b29475&hm=1235d93eaf8c8499b1b1e8bd936bb32d8779a68ea59e52cdab62bb603cae15c8&

[royal badge]

MR TRUMP TEAR DOWN THAT WALZ

[flat coral]

“I can't wait to debate JD Vance. That is, if he's willing to get off the couch and show up” 😭😭

[low zephyr]

THAT Was so gReaT

[placid jacinth]

Cooked!

[naive robin]

unrelated but just found out walz's a swiftie lol

[stoic lodge]

https://x.com/nikkidementri/status/1820826367446987198

Nikki DeMentri (@nikkidementri) on X

Doors are open in South Philadelphia at 2300 Arena. GOP Vice Presidential nominee J.D. Vance is set to speak at noon for a campaign event. @CBSPhiladelphia

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 2:16 PM

[flat coral]

didn’t he sign something for minnesota swiftie day or smth

im probably remembering wrong

[naive robin]

yes

[dreamy cradle]

Just wondering what happens if Doanld Trumps wins election, will be there something bad happening?

[placid jacinth]

Bad is an understatement

This country will burn in ashes if he goes into office

And it would take years to come back from it

[wintry remnant]

Decades, even

[stoic lodge]

Everything bad

[dreamy cradle]

It would take another 4 years obviously

[placid jacinth]

Decades

[stoic lodge]

It's like when voldermort took over the ministry of magic only worse

[stoic lodge]

Lol what an idiot

[marsh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/blunder-fired-simpsons-gif-9162825897901719142

[keen crane]

God i love twitter sometimes

[placid jacinth]

I like this guy a lot more than Biden just based of that clip

Guy looks old but he def knows what to say

[dapper sail]

Polls are close but Kamala remains in the lead

This is good for Kamala but if Trump leads in swing states, that may be a problem for Kamala

Also, house and senate is very important in the election too. Don't forget about those as well

If anything, the House and the Senate are probably one of the most important to have control in

[flat coral]

He’s not that old

Only 60

Just looks old probably cause he was in the military and a high school teacher

[placid jacinth]

Still old but def not as bad as Biden

[stoic lodge]

Biden so old

So is Trump

[flat coral]

60 isn’t very old for a political position tbh

Especially VP

[scenic veldt]

Lmao that’s so funny 😭

Mind you he’s the same age as Kamala Harris 😭😭

Yea 60s quite young he even has time to run for president eight or more years down the line

[scenic veldt]

We up

[weary coral]

https://www.instagram.com/stories/gracieabrams/3428957005967557556?igsh=MWFobDdwZ3J2YnNxMQ==

[weary coral]

It’s normal - because of experience

[flat coral]

yup exactly

[scenic veldt]

Guys real question

Why does that look like Kamala Harris in the back

It looks like she’s waving from a rally stage 😭😭

[stoic lodge]

@scenic veldt There's already enough clowns in politics

[wide pawn]

people calling the man only a year older than Kamala old 💀

[vapid nova]

he looks much older than he is tbf

[flat coral]

prob republicans who won’t admit that trump is way too old

[placid jacinth]

I mean what are you gonna tell me?

The guy looks young?

He def doesn’t look young I’ll tell you that but he doesn’t look as old as Biden where bro can barely stand on 2 feet

[stoic lodge]

He's coherent

[vapid nova]

here's the deal this is my dad who is 2 years older than him and looks younger

[stoic lodge]

Alert and aware

[placid jacinth]

Your dad def looks way younger than walz, idk if ppl expected us to think walz is young or what 😭

[vapid nova]

and my dad is older than him so its just he looks older than he is

my mother who is the same age as walz like

[placid jacinth]

Yea which is why i said he looks old bc walz does look old icl

[placid jacinth]

Def still in her youth based on how she looks

[vapid nova]

the fact they're all around the same age just means he aged differently lol

[placid jacinth]

Yea which is why I said he looks old

[wide pawn]

I mean calling someone old based on looks is certainly one way to judge someone

But like, people age differently

[placid jacinth]

If you rlly expected anyone to say he looks young just based off looks then idk what to tell you

[stoic lodge]

Politics and school seems like would age you a lot quicker lol

[vapid nova]

politics for sure my mom was a kindergarten teacher, a librarian and a gifted program teacher for 35 years

[wide pawn]

Not saying he looks young, just people age differently with physical appearance

I'm 26 and already have a couple grey hairs

😭

[placid jacinth]

That’s true tbh

I mean shit I’m 17

And I have a patch of grey hair to

Which is prob bad or not who knows

[wide pawn]

I had some grey hairs in college but I'm pretty sure they were stress induced

[low zephyr]

did yall see the kamala easter egg

[wide pawn]

Where was that posted

[low zephyr]

tay tays insta-

[wide knoll]

who's gonna stop us from Walzing back

[wide knoll]

also that's definitely not kamala lol

[stoic lodge]

Harris Walz sounds like a fancy dance

💃 🕺

[keen crane]

into rekindled coconuts, if we know the context anyways 😔

[coarse rapids]

KAMALA HARRIS

[low zephyr]

it definitely is?! u kidding?

[low zephyr]

[scenic veldt]

The New York Times has a whole article about that Easter egg now

It’s just a backup dancer leaving the stage tho

Can’t decide whether to spend my money on Taylor merch or the cool new Harris Walz hat

[fresh field]

that is one of the dancers just walking away

after the man

[wide pawn]

I think Kamala could use the money more rn tbh

The earlier you donate to campaigns, the better they do

[tiny flower]

do yall think taylor will show her support for either side

[flat coral]

she’ll probably endorse Harris in the coming months

[wide pawn]

Probably, she already did in 2020

[flat coral]

she endorsed biden harris in 2020 yeah

so I don’t see why she wouldn’t here

[wide pawn]

Probably more likely with Kamala at the top of the ticket

[flat coral]

Kamala has a +8 lead in a new A+ poll wtf

That’s amazing

[wide pawn]

Yeah I mean, Kamala isn't widely hated like Biden and Trump are

[coarse rapids]

The backup dancer being Kamala Harris

[stoic lodge]

She will never endorse trump lol

[weary coral]

Link?

[weary coral]

Her campaign raised over $100m in 24hrs

I think they are fine

[wide pawn]

The more the better

Individual contributions also make campaigns look better

Raising $100 million from a few rich people looks worse than raising $100 million from a ton of regular people

[weary coral]

It wasn’t from a few rich people though
There were 800,000 new donators within those 24hrs

[wide pawn]

Yeah, I know, I'm saying the more the merrier lol

[stoic lodge]

What Easter egg?

[wide knoll]

maybe kamala but she must be pretty damn worried with the recent events that happened without her even speaking up

[nova junco]

@gray musk theres a thread for it here u go

[scenic veldt]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/07/arts/music/taylor-swift-kamala-harris.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BU4.Pphr.KwlSTsWZ0eJt&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

[scenic veldt]

There you go

[weary coral]

Cheers

[royal badge]

Trump says his Jan. 6 crowd was bigger than the one MLK had for his "I Have a Dream" speech.

[low zephyr]

ermmm

[weary coral]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c984yz8r695t

Wheyyy

Finally

[dapper sail]

Finally

Took long enough

[wide pawn]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[royal badge]

👌 🍊 👌 “mine was biggerrrr it was terrific very very terrific”

[nimble furnace]

yes it is but it probably represents something, i think taylor will probably say something abt the election after the europe leg of the tour

[flat coral]

lmfaooooo

[dapper sail]

Who's gonna tell Trump 😭

[vapid nova]

imma criminal for kamala: criminally hot

[dapper sail]

My mom says im handsome so I am more non-criminally hot

[finite oak]

why is this a thread

[wide knoll]

people like to discuss things going on

[finite oak]

yeah but i feel like if someone said there opinion they’d get hate and stuff

[wide knoll]

rules 1 and 7 are there for a reason

[vale grove]

civil convo

[placid jacinth]

Why not

It’s not like we’ll go after someone’s throat or anything

[royal badge]

Alaska is a weird state in the fact that rural areas are blue and urban areas are red

And the politics there is kinda crazy

[dapper sail]

Those mini islands in Alaska probably don't care too much about politics if I were to guess

[royal badge]

Probably

[dapper sail]

I mean, everything is expensive in Alaska so I doubt they care who's in charge as deeply as us in the lower 48

Alaska oddly enough is usually majority republican

[wide pawn]

Yes, because the rural areas are largely Native

They're also kinda balanced as a state

Libertarian is the best way to describe them

[royal badge]

Thought that said naive

[vapid nova]

its also a large hunting area

[flat coral]

I love them

[stoic lodge]

Republicans be like "omg how could they laugh🤬

[flat coral]

It’s crazy how their only talking point against kamala is that she laughs a lot

She did have a weird response to some Palestine protestors at her rally the other day but I think it was warranted tbh

She met with them beforehand and said she would work towards a ceasefire then they started yelling during her rally and she told them to stop and let her talk

[stoic lodge]

Joe Rogan endorsed RFK Jr and not Trump lol

[flat coral]

It happened again tonight but this time she said “the time for a ceasefire is now”

[stoic lodge]

MAGA is pissed lmao

[flat coral]

American politics are so fucking back

[stoic lodge]

RFK Jr was supposed to split the dem vote instead it splitting the republican vote

Love to see it

[flat coral]

I’ve seen people saying that Texas might go blue if RFK takes enough votes from trump

Probably won’t happen but would be crazy

[stoic lodge]

Hope Elon gets involved and they all start pissing on each other lmao

[flat coral]

Would be harris but im one month short of 18 💔

[vale grove]

I’m rooting for Harris-Walz

[flat coral]

Same

[stoic lodge]

LFG!!!

[wide pawn]

RFK JR is basically Trump 2.0, he's trying to work with Trump

[wide pawn]

Don't forget to vote in midterms too when you can start voting (: and local elections

[stoic lodge]

By taking votes from Trump, got it

[wide pawn]

He's actually trying to take vote from Democrats. But the thing is he actually offered to endorse Trump in exchange for an administration position leading the countries health decisions

He's also a very crazy anti-vaxxer

He's trying to bolster his pro-environment record to hide his super anti-vax record

[stoic lodge]

Trying to but failing

[wide pawn]

Some people who don't know enough about him are falling for it

[weary coral]

I think I’d rather not vote than vote for Trump
And I hate not voting

[naive robin]

not voting essentially means voting for trump let's be real

[weary coral]

Can’t vote anyways because not in US!

[storm garden]

lmao trump better win

[weary coral]

[marsh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-gif-23886381

[flat coral]

🔥🔥🔥

[wise tinsel]

what happened to the rfk supporters they suddenly went to kamala 😭

[wide pawn]

Rfk was caught trying to negotiate with Trump to endorse him in exchange for a cabinet position. That's called a quid pro quo

[wise tinsel]

whats a cabinet position?

[wide pawn]

Like, working directly under you in the government

For a certain department

It's like giving someone a job in exchange for an endorsement

[pine quest]

why would trump endorse a rival 💀

[stoic lodge]

What do you mean

Who did trump endorse

[pine quest]

.

reading is pretty easy

[stoic lodge]

Yes

I guess reading comprehension and context can still use some work

Trump isn't endorsing rfk

And if he would endorse him for the position it would be a strategy to prevent some of those independent votes to go to trump instead of rfk

In exchange for dropping out of the race, trump would give rfk some cabinet position

Does that make sense?

It can also be beneficial for trump as then he would have a solid yes man in that position. Like "I gave you this position, remember? So I need you to X, Y, and Z"

@pine quest ^^^

[pine quest]

is that even legal

considering hes always crying about rigged elections

[stoic lodge]

The Cabinet is an advisory body made up of the heads of the 15 executive departments. Appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, the members of the Cabinet are often the President's closest confidants.

[stoic lodge]

Nope which is why they are always very careful about how they phrase things

[stoic lodge]

I think this was uncalled for tbh

[wide pawn]

I mean rfk would endorse trump

But yeah rfk asked Trump for job in exchange for him endorsing trump

A job in charge of health policies in America. In the hands of a hard anti-vaxxer

Big nope from me

[dapper sail]

and you guys thought my RFK Jr vote would be bad for Kamala

I also live in Iowa, it's not gonna be blue for a long time

[dapper sail]

No it doesn't, it means you don't vote for anyone 😭

[stoic lodge]

Any vote for trump or rfk is bad for kamala

Not sure what your point is

[dapper sail]

But you said it is splitting the republican votes

How badly is it splitting the democratic votes?

[stoic lodge]

Yes and also drawing independents from kamala

[dapper sail]

I thought you were saying it like it has more of an effect on Trump than Kamala

[stoic lodge]

It can be both and can be fluid

Initially, it was hurting biden/kamala more

[dapper sail]

It hurts both Trump and Kamala to be fair

Not just specifically Kamala

[stoic lodge]

But after the poor showing by Trump and co it seems like it's hurting trump a bit more

That can change but the point is rfk is pulling vital votes from both trump and harris

Dems are even surprised at how well harris/walz are doing

[dapper sail]

Democracy in a nutshell, we get to vote for who we want

[weary coral]

I am happily surprised

[weary coral]

Might not be democracy if it swings one way

[dapper sail]

Not voting hurts every candidate, voting one candidate hurts the other candidates chances

[dapper sail]

Well we've never been a full democracy, we've been more like a constitutional republic

A subsection of democracy

[weary coral]

If Trump gets in, a dictatorship is a real possibility

“You won’t have to vote anymore”

Stripping away rights

[dapper sail]

That won't happen, thats fear mongering. Besides how would that work anyway

He'd have to abolish the house and senate

Which he doesn't have the power to do that

[weary coral]

Heard of autocracy?

[stoic lodge]

You're in denial lol

[dapper sail]

What is autocracy?

[weary coral]

“Replacing civil servants with loyalists” - project 2025

[dapper sail]

He has his own agenda, its agenda 47. He's not going off of project 2025

[weary coral]

You believe he has ‘no clue’ about Project 2025?

[dapper sail]

I dont support the guy but the fear mongering is crazy

[stoic lodge]

Bruh

[dapper sail]

He wouldn't announce he has another agenda if he was gonna follow project 2025

[stoic lodge]

You really believe trump tells the truth?

[dapper sail]

That would be wack

[weary coral]

I think you may need to be a bit more informed

[dapper sail]

Not really but did he say he supported project 2025?

How do we know if anyone is telling the truth

We don't know if Kamala is telling us the truth

[stoic lodge]

He claimed to not know anything about it despite loads of evidence of his support and referring to it

[dapper sail]

We have to trust her

[weary coral]

Kamala is not a criminal.

[stoic lodge]

His VP pick has intro to a project 2025 book

[weary coral]

And his former higher ups being behind the main part

[stoic lodge]

Trump is a grifter and a conman and a liar

He is lying through his teeth to stay out of jail rn

Broke as shit

[dapper sail]

Trump being a liar makes sense but is there anything in Agenda 47 that have similar things from project 2025 that are horrible?

Tbh I havent looked into Agenda 47

[stoic lodge]

Ok maybe he's tell the truth

He is so incompetent

[weary coral]

If he loses the election, I reckon he’ll run away rather than accept jail time
Too big of an ego

[stoic lodge]

His social manners and demeanor is embarassing

The way he acts around other heads of nations

The language he uses

Complete disrespect

[dapper sail]

I'm personally waiting for the debate September 10th to see which one is better

[stoic lodge]

So even if both harris and trump are lying, who would you rather have represent the US in global relations

[dapper sail]

Probably a cat at that point

Maybe Kamala

[stoic lodge]

Write in "Bart Simpson" then if you feel like throwing your vote away

[dapper sail]

I was actually gonna write in Machine Gun Kelly

[stoic lodge]

Trump just lies about the dumbest shit that is easily proven false

He flip flops on his opinions of people, name drops out the ass, and can't string together a coherent speech

He is becoming more unhinged with every passing day

[rancid minnow]

How many lies did he say during the presidential debate this year? lol

[stoic lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-lindsay-lohan-the-limit-does-not-exist-math-no-limit-gif-3546827

[shut willow]

i suppose

[shut willow]

Ahem. President Trump vies to eradicate "woke" content, or LGBTQ+ content. He intends to remove any trace of it from schools, and to prevent hospitals from supplying Estrogen and Testosterone.

[naive robin]

lmfao

[dapper sail]

Yeah he mainly focuses on banning gender affirming care for minors and wanting to end federal recognition of gender identity

Instead he wants people to only be referred by their biological sex

Also he doesn't want trans women to play in women's sports

Now I dont think he's after the LGB, just the T part he's not for

[stoic lodge]

Lol

Does that make it ok?

[wide pawn]

Let's exclude the T for a second,

I'm legitimately concerned about his supreme court that he picked 1/3rd of overturning Obergefell and effectively undoing decades of hard-fought marriage rights for couples throughout many states

And he'll likely be able to pick another justice or 2 if he wins another term

Clarence Thomas may be the most corrupt supreme court justice to have ever sat on the bench

I don't want Trump picking his replacement

[dapper sail]

Well, yes and no. Personally gender affirming care for minors isn't something I agree with personally (especially not for anyone under the age of 14).

[dapper sail]

What is Obergefell? I looked it up, it has to do with same-sex marriage right?

In that case, I think same-sex marriage should be legal. You'll actually see some Republicans agree with same-sex marriage being legal as well

[dapper sail]

That's totally fair and understandable

[wide pawn]

Yeah, a lot do. Unfortunately, there's a backwards trend now among Republicans because of how they're polarizing LGBT issues. 2023 is the first time Republicans actually were less okay with gay people

Being LGBT should not even be political, but here we are

[dapper sail]

Thats strange to me considering I believe there's a gay republican in office too

George Santos is his name

[wide pawn]

It doesn't mean they can't get elected but Gallop did confirm that support for same-sex marriage dropped for the first time in 2023 because of Republicans beginning to backtrack

[dapper sail]

I dont think he's in office anymore

[wide pawn]

Yeahhhhh that man is a mess

[dapper sail]

Man that sucks, even when I was a republican I never wanted to attack same-sex marriage

Seems too extreme in my book

It seems rather unconstitutional to want to ban same-sex marriage

It infringes on the 1st amendment that gives us freedom of expression

[stoic lodge]

Bless your heart

[shut willow]

He doesn't just want to exclude minors from HRT, he wants to exclude everyone.

[marsh panther]

holy shit jd vance did interviews that aired this morning

they're actually insane good lord

JD Vance on Trump dining with white supremacist Nick Fuentes, who made racist comments about his wife and Trump has never fully disavowed: "The one thing I like about Donald Trump is he actually will talk to anybody, but just because you talk to somebody doesn't mean you endorse their views. Donald Trump has spent a lot of quality time with my wife. Every time he sees her, he gives her a huge hug, tells her she's beautiful, and jokes around with her a little bit."

[weary coral]

Project 2025 states that in court, they will think about ‘religious reasons over LGBTQ+ reasons’

[royal badge]

General Election Poll - North Carolina

🔵 Harris 46%
🔴 Trump 46%

YouGov #A (🔵) - 802 RV - 8/9

[wide pawn]

Harris being tied with Trump in NC is badddd for Trump

[stoic lodge]

Especially with how things are trending. I don't think trump has gone up or gained supporters. Just losing them

[wide pawn]

Based on what I read, Harris made a really really good choice with Walz

[stoic lodge]

Yes it was a great pick and much better than shapiro

Kelly would have been fine too but he was needed in AZ

[wide pawn]

I sincerely hope Kari Lake doesn't win because she's terrible and he deserves a better senator to represent Arizona with

The more I read about Shapiro, the more unhappy I was with him

[stoic lodge]

"Vance says he ‘disavows’ Nick Fuentes: ‘A total loser’"

Perfect now the trump campaign is going against its young white male nationalist base

More worthless votes going towards RFK

"Trump Admits Supporting Electric Cars Because of Musk’s Endorsement. | “I’m for electric because I have to be, you know, because Elon endorsed me very strongly... So I have no choice,” Trump told a rally in Atlanta."

Bought and paid for what a stooge

[wide pawn]

I mean Elon did do one good thing... get the MAGA crowd to be okay with electric cars

[finite oak]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNG1sKT8/

[finite oak]

rfk is one of the best choices.

[stoic lodge]

definitely one of the choices

[marsh panther]

not the team trump tiktok 😭

and not that damn clip being taken out of context

[flat owl]

If a Trumper is voting for RFK, that’s fine with me

[dapper sail]

Kamala called me stupid 😭

now I'm really voting for Kennedy

[dapper sail]

Based

[stoic lodge]

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/clip-harris-calling-young-people-stupid-lacks-context-2024-07-26/

[wide pawn]

Absolutely not

[flat coral]

I meann she may have called young people stupid but is she really wrong

isnt rfk anti vax 😭

[wide pawn]

Very

There's video of him basically encouraging people to tell mothers never to vaccinate their kids

[flat coral]

also that bear cub story that came out lately is really fucking weird

i know it was like a decade ago but he seems to still think its funny

[wide pawn]

The standards people have for Kamala vs Trump is wild. Trump can say the damnest thing and not lose any support. Kamala needs to walk on eggshells

[stoic lodge]

How will rfk do anything without a senate majority

https://youtu.be/1gUP_43J7wY

[wide pawn]

Yeah John Oliver really nailed why RFK is bad

RFK is one of those 'vaccines cause autism' types too

[royal badge]

#New @SienaResearch General Election Poll

Pennsylvania - 🔵 Harris +4
Michigan - 🔵 Harris +4
Wisconsin - 🔵 Harris +4

Siena #A+ - 600 LV (Each) - 8/9

[coarse rapids]

Go Kamala

https://tenor.com/view/manlsmonet-gif-23253122

[pine quest]

why waste a vote on rfk?

[odd dome]

kamalaa

🔛 🔝

[vapid nova]

do you really believe everything you see without looking into it and exploring the context

because i'm noticing a pattern im just saying please look carefully into the media you consume

[stoic lodge]

Is trump back on x, formerly known as twitter?

[dapper sail]

I'm kidding dw

I doubt she actually thinks we're stupid

[flat coral]

Oh god trump is back on twitter😭

[dapper sail]

Just cause I disagree with you guys on things doesn't mean I'm misinformed, I just hate both parties

I align with Kennedy the most so

Sorry about that I guess

I dont think Kamala is "incompetent", I just don't agree on even 50% of her policies according to the ISideWith website (I got 44% for Kamala, 71% Trump, 85% Kennedy)

[dapper sail]

I think it's because they don't know Kamala Harris well enough due to how new she is in the running compared to when it was Trump vs Biden

With Trump, you can expect anything but with Kamala it's more of a surprise due to her being newer in the running

[stoic lodge]

Sir a 2nd JD Vance in drag photo has hit the internet

[weary coral]

Go on…

[stoic lodge]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/second-photo-alleging-to-be-jd-vance-in-drag-posted-online

[wide pawn]

JD Vance used to be so cool

Why did he have to sell his soul

[stoic lodge]

Who were the other potential VP picks for Trump? He goofed big time with Vance lmao

[vale grove]

oh no

[rancid minnow]

oh for goodness sake

[wide pawn]

Oh god

[vale grove]

I’m still scared for this election

[wide pawn]

I'm legit considering moving out of the country if Trump wins

[stoic lodge]

Tanked his own truth social to own the libs lmao

[flat coral]

I dont think Trump will win

He’s weirding out all of the moderates who were leaning towards him

[placid jacinth]

Same

[wide pawn]

I'm in the process of getting a greek citizenship

I could try moving to Germany if I'm in the EU, apparently Germany has good programs for teaching immigrants German lol

[flat coral]

trump on twitter with elon

this is the worst timeljne

[timid frigate]

#trump2024

cancel me if u want

but this country will get burned to the ground just like Minnesota did while Tim Walz was their governer

[wide pawn]

... what are you talking about

Minnesota is doing well

[timid frigate]

ok! here is some evidence of what happened

this all happeend while Tim Walz was governer!

[wide pawn]

Alright, and how did Tim Walz respond

[timid frigate]

He didn't, trump called the national gaurd!

[wide pawn]

Trump can't call a national guard...

National Guards are state run

Trump literally doesn't have the authority

[timid frigate]

Someone doesnt pay attention in school!

[stoic lodge]

Ok

[wide pawn]

Simple fact checking shows Tim called the national guard

[timid frigate]

The President is in charge of the entire millitary, which a section of it is the national guard which each state has.

[wide pawn]

Actually, school is where I learned the difference between the National Guard and the military

You clearly don't

[timid frigate]

So national gaurd isnt a part of the millitary?

[wide pawn]

NOPE

[timid frigate]

key word National.

[wide pawn]

My god you're ill-informed

[timid frigate]

Nation is the first word!

[wide pawn]

A National Guard is state run

Look it up

[stoic lodge]

Scripps National Spelling Bee

[wide pawn]

Key word: state run

[stoic lodge]

NATIONAL

[wide pawn]

You're arguing based off of a name of something and haven't done the slightest research to understand what it is

[timid frigate]

This proves my point 💀

components of US Army and US air force.....

WHICH IS THE MILLITARY

https://tenor.com/view/brain-explosion-telegram-sticker-brain-explosion-telegram-brain-boom-telegram-gif-16508239138619932758

[wide pawn]

Tim Walz called the National Guard. Presidents don't have the authority

The National Guard operates under the directive of the GOVERNOR

Not the PRESIDENT

[wide pawn]

How dense are you? Tim Walz called in the National Gaurd

This is easy to fact check

[timid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/paging-mr-morrow-pagingmrmorrow-pmm-yeet-tea-party-gif-1727690072217682936

You sound like a brit

"dense"

[wide pawn]

I'm American, unfortunately

[marsh panther]

so few things: reminder that conversation in here should be respectful

so maybe

chill a bit cheetah

[timid frigate]

ME CHILL?

yeah ok

[wide pawn]

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/verify/did-gov-walz-or-trump-deploy-the-national-guard-in-2020-unrest/89-edf24d97-dc4f-49a3-bcc5-fad7f7504a32

[marsh panther]

i mean both of yall but

you're the one that's kinda

[wide pawn]

Anyway here, Tim Walz called the National Guard

[marsh panther]

pushing stuff the most

[wide pawn]

I don't like being told I don't pay attention in school when school is quite actually where I learned that only Governors have authority to call a National Guard ☠️

[marsh panther]

btw trump is having his chat with elon rn and it is an absolute mess

[wide pawn]

I also don't understand people who simp for the world's richest man like he's gonna make them rich

[stoic lodge]

What's your point

[placid jacinth]

This country will turn into ashes with maga in the Oval Office

[wide pawn]

Tim Walz might be one of my favorites based on his record

[marsh panther]

hundred percent

[rancid minnow]

Oop lmao

[marsh panther]

like kelly would've been nice but his union stance isn't great and then shapiro too isn't too great

[rancid minnow]

Real

[wide pawn]

National Guard kinda gets misunderstood all the time based on the name. Every state has a National Guard, but they're entirely directed by the Governors of the states

So every state will have a different National Guard

[weary coral]

Trump yesterday talking about the destruction of the department of education - hmmm seems weirdly familiar project 2025

I though he had nothing to do with that

[last void]

jm the President

[vapid nova]

Okay I am not even coming at you I just want to know like some more about YOU as a person to see where your view point is coming from so like tell me about you I guess

also like what are your favorite things about Trump that really make you feel as though he's your candidate? Are you more religious or just mainly for his law and order policies?

[wide pawn]

Not to mention the fact that Trump actually called Tim Walz after the riots and praised him for how he handled it

There's a leaked recording floating around of it

Now Trump's pretending like Tim did a bad job

[stoic lodge]

“She is terrible, she is terrible,” Trump doubled down. “She’s getting a free ride.”

The former president then abruptly segwayed into talking about Harris’s looks, drawing comparison between her and the former first lady.

“I saw a picture of her on Time Magazine today. She looks like the most beautiful actress ever to live,” Trump said of Harris, referring to the latest edition of Time Magazine, which brands Harris’s campaign as “the swiftest vibe shift in modern political history.”

“She looked very much like our great first lady, Melania,” Trump gushed as Musk met his comment with an chuckle and a reserved, “yeah…”

“She didn’t look like Camilla,” Trump said, purposely butchering Harris’ name. “Of course, she’s a beautiful woman and we’ll leave it at that.”

“Right… well yeah, well, you know,” Musk said, before scrambling to change the subject and entering into a monologue about the American dream.

wtf...

[rancid minnow]

Wait actually man wtf

[stoic lodge]

Yeah man wtf

[wide pawn]

The epitome of conservative opinions of women in power: is she attractive or not

[stoic lodge]

Trump sucks!

[rancid minnow]

Ikr

[storm garden]

I hipe trump wins the election bcuz he says that he will keep tiktok on the us, lifes boring without tt

I hope he does the same for huawei

[rancid minnow]

Oh I ain’t a big fan of TikTok tbh but aight

[marsh panther]

this is actually one of the most insane comments i've seen in this server in a hot minute

jesus christ

😭

[placid jacinth]

I’m at no words

All I gotta say is wow

[rancid minnow]

Real

[placid jacinth]

Gotta be rage bait

But it’s more funny than anything ngl

[pine quest]

this channel is really frustrating when stupid uneducated people give their political opinion lol

[stoic lodge]

Unfortunately they get a vote too

[placid jacinth]

True, but you gotta admit the stupidity sometimes is just so dumb it becomes funny especially when their reason to like someone is bc they wanna keep a brain rotted app around

[coarse rapids]

Please tell me you're joking...

[wicked mantle]

And for the Huawei thing, wasn't it under Trump administration it was put on a black list?

[wide pawn]

Pretty sure it was a joke

Huawei is a legit spy company tho imo

I mean, America spies too

[wicked mantle]

Who doesn't spy on who?

[rancid minnow]

Did trump praise Elon musk for firing people who want to unionize??!

[wide pawn]

That definitely sounds like something Trump would do

[low zephyr]

https://actionnetwork.org/events/swifties-for-kamala-kickoff-call

in case anyones interested

[flat coral]

https://x.com/trumpdailyposts/status/1823578049545429280?s=46

trump campaign is a joke 😭

[stoic lodge]

Freaking boomers

[low zephyr]

BYE-

[placid jacinth]

I’m dead help 😭

[lucid ridge]

Thinking Harris is gonna end up between 281 and 319 electoral votes on Election Day

[wide pawn]

I'm kinda excited to predict this election, my prediction was the exact electoral count in 2020

Too early imo, things are changing every week

[flat coral]

I don’t have any electoral guesses but I think kamala for sure wins

Especially if trump keeps up with the weird shit

[rancid minnow]

Meh trumps voters do seem to be cult like followers

[flat coral]

True but he’s scaring away the moderates

[wide pawn]

Polls show Trump is stuck at his maximum support at this point. He's not made any gains. He's only got people to lose basically

[rancid minnow]

Oh well that’s great news

[wide pawn]

Trump already has 100% name recognition and there's really nothing else he can say or do to gain new voters

[wide pawn]

Kamala has really been gaining a lot of support lately

But let's not get complacent, get out and vote and let's not repeat 2016

[rancid minnow]

Yes she has and I think it’s great and am keeping high hopes with it

[wide pawn]

I've been listening to a lot of podcasts lately ever since Biden dropped out

Found a nice new one with Anthony Scaramucci, a Republican who worked for Trump for just 10 days before getting fired (he's supporting Kamala) and the man really does a good job digging into Trump's personality and his support

[rancid minnow]

Interesting I’ll look it up later

[wide pawn]

It's called The Rest Is Politics: US

[rancid minnow]

Aight

[royal badge]

https://apnews.com/article/montana-abortion-parental-consent-980e974b46721f6fcdefd9ac85a2a996

Trump was just there

[wide pawn]

Vance and Walz will debate on October 1st

[stoic lodge]

Vance confirmed?

[glad estuary]

yep

he was the one who wanted the debate

[wide pawn]

It's pretty standard for VPs to debate so this really isn't surprising

[stoic lodge]

It becoming standard for Republicans to chickenshit out of debates

[rancid minnow]

Speaking of debates. Where the hell did all the being polite at them go.

[stoic lodge]

Trump happened

I remember the first time he debated and just attacked everyone and was cruel

[rancid minnow]

Of course it was trump

[stoic lodge]

Talking over everyone

[wide pawn]

Trump is why they started muting people in debates this year when it's not their turn

[rancid minnow]

Yea that makes sense

[warped tendon]

what has kamala accomplished?? What do you think she will accomplish if she is president??? JUst curious? =))

[placid jacinth]

I think she will accomplish to keep our rights unlike trump

And won’t burn the country down like trump

[warped tendon]

what rights are you talking about?

[placid jacinth]

She wants to fight for lgbtq rights unlike trump, bro wants to implement project 2025 and just annihilate everything

[warped tendon]

never have heard of project 2025 whta is it??

[wide pawn]

She established the Partnership for Central America which researched migrant crossings and contributed to the current low migrant intersections at the border

They call her the Border Czar... even though she actually did do something good for the border

It depends on the context. In the context that they're saying, sure

Migrants are actually less likely to kill people than citizens

Illegal and legal alike

Fear mongering

Statistics don't lie

That's what Trump may want you to believe

Why is CNN relevant here

Trump calls her the czar

The border czar

That is a direct and widely used term by Trump

Keep up 💀

She doesn't manage the border tho. That's not her job. It was just to research why they're migrating and she did exactly that

[marsh panther]

@wide pawn i banned them cause they just seem like a troll lmao

like their name was literally realbabygronk they were def some kind of troll

[stoic lodge]

You banned baby gronk?

[wide pawn]

That was the vibe I was getting

But I still think it's worth answering incase other people had similar questions

[weary coral]

Q: “What would you do to fix credit card debt?”

Trump’s A: “We’re going to fix it. Vote for Trump”

He has ZERO clue!

[marsh panther]

dude the clips from this like trump press conference thing he's doing are sending me

[weary coral]

Keeps referring back to the border at all times

Republicans stopped a border control bill in order for Trump to play on it during his campaign

[stoic lodge]

Trump is doing these online interviews/press conferences because he KNOWS his crowds are small af

[wide pawn]

Yeah, he deadass said democrats are using AI to make Harris's crowds seem bigger

💀

[stoic lodge]

"Biden rips Trump as ‘Donald Dump’ while signaling unity with Harris"

Freakin got em

Dark Brandon rules

[rancid minnow]

… I don’t even have a reaction at this point. Just picture a blank stare

[wide pawn]

Yeah apparently this is the first time someone else is drawing bigger crowds than him

Poor Trump, insecure about his crowd size

[stoic lodge]

Trump sucks!

[rancid minnow]

Poor trump. What shall he ever do with is cult like following

[weary coral]

[vapid nova]

liz truss lettuce my beloved

[stoic lodge]

Trump: the presidential medal of freedom is far better than the Congressional Medal of Honor because only broken down or dead soldiers get it

How can any veteran vote for this POS

[rancid minnow]

Ik like. Yah

[stoic lodge]

Or POC. Or woman.

[wide pawn]

Republicans vote against expending benefits for veterans all the time

Democrats are the ones actually pushing to take care of veterans

How did the republican party manipulate the public into thinking they're the party for veterans

[stoic lodge]

Veterans can be dumb 💀

[wide pawn]

Saw Green Day last night

They changed the lyrics in American Idiot from "I'm not a part of a redneck agenda" to "I'm not part of a MAGA agenda"

[rancid minnow]

Slay

Where did they play?

[wide pawn]

Minneapolis

[rancid minnow]

Cool

[brazen surge]

my dad is a veteran @stoic lodge

[royal badge]

HELP

[stoic lodge]

Ok and?

[brazen surge]

he's not dumb

[stoic lodge]

I didn't say all veterans are dumb

I didn't say your father was dumb

I said veterans can be dumb

[brazen surge]

but i support trump

I cant be the only one

[stoic lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-taylor-taylor-swift-taylor-swift-funny-swifties-gif-25618812

[brazen surge]

I'm not being mean

[stoic lodge]

Do you think Trump is nice person?

[brazen surge]

I'm just simply saying

yes

[pine quest]

supporting trump while being a woman is crazy stuff

[brazen surge]

I can support who I want

[pine quest]

nobody said you couldn’t

[stoic lodge]

Of course you can

What do you think of trumps comment "grab em right by the p****"?

[brazen surge]

I think it was taken out of context just like the Dictator comment

and the Blood bath comment

he said it would be a bloodbath for the Auto industry

if he does not win

[stoic lodge]

Ok

[brazen surge]

and Project 2025 is not Trumps

Agenda 47 is Trumps

[stoic lodge]

They are not completely different though and share similarities

[brazen surge]

i actually believe that the department of education should return to the states

[stoic lodge]

Agenda 47 is just trump making lies and false hopes to get elected

[brazen surge]

can i ask you a question

why is Harris copying Trumps policy on no tax on tips

[stoic lodge]

It's a good idea

They can agree on some things

[brazen surge]

see the media protrays Trump supporters has hostile and i'm not

[stoic lodge]

Harris' plan helps the workers and trumps plan helps the rich

[brazen surge]

she can help inflation right now

[stoic lodge]

Bipartisanship happens once in a long ass time and people are claiming stolen policy lmao

[brazen surge]

i agree on the 3 exceptions to abortion

rape incest and the health of the mother

[stoic lodge]

Hey cool I'm stepping away from this convo to do other things

Welcome to the channel

[brazen surge]

im sorry if i offended you

[stoic lodge]

You didn't I'm just going to work out

Have a good day

[brazen surge]

ok have a good night

[nimble furnace]

oh goodness gracious

[brazen surge]

What ?

I can't be the only one

[nimble furnace]

i think you are

you’d rather vote for a criminal than a non criminal?

[rancid minnow]

I mean there is a chance

Taylor swift is known as a liberal artist

[rancid minnow]

I only am curious what reasons you would vote for trump over Kamala or any other candidate

[brazen surge]

i actually taught about RFK intially but i eventually switched back to Trump

[rancid minnow]

Interesting

May I ask why is that

[brazen surge]

because i felt we need a strong candidate

july 13 proved that trump is the right choice

[rancid minnow]

I do not know what happened on that date. May you explain? Like shortly

[brazen surge]

trump almost got assassinated

[rancid minnow]

Yes?

[brazen surge]

you can even see the scar

[rancid minnow]

Forgot about that 😑🤦‍♀️

[rancid minnow]

How does that make him a “stronger candidate”?

[brazen surge]

Im also voting for the people that got murdered

Laken Riley

[stoic lodge]

Trump is old and incoherent

[brazen surge]

Jocelyn

nungary

[rancid minnow]

Can I just ask questions

[brazen surge]

yeah

[rancid minnow]

I literally have no republicans in my life who would like not go insane if I ask questions

[brazen surge]

i wont i promise

[rancid minnow]

Alright but. Are you not worried about the 2025 project at all. Even though he isn’t directly associated with it

Or do you not have a negative opinion on the 2025 project

[brazen surge]

No because Project 2025 came out and said that Trump wasnt associated with it

im more worried about Agenda 47

[rancid minnow]

Yes but he has been like seen having a good relationship with the heritage foundation who wrote it

[stoic lodge]

What about the trump saying he has no knowledge of project 2025 despite making previous mentions to it

[rancid minnow]

I am as well to be honest

But why would you support him if you are worried about that issue?

[stoic lodge]

Do you think it's right that trump fails to make good on payments to cities and arenas for hosting his rallies?

[rancid minnow]

Erm

Aight then

[wide pawn]

Like dozens of Trump's personal people are actively working on Project 2025

Also, Trump is an election denier and sore loser and straight up dangerous for democracy

[wide pawn]

They're lying because they realized it got bad press...

[stoic lodge]

Do you have any concerns about Trumps age and mental fitness?

[wide pawn]

They're gonna do it

The authors of project 2025 had a book planned about it to release before the election. They just pushed it back to after the election because they realize Americans hate it.

But they're still gonna do it because once Trump is in power then they can't stop it

Is this not obvious ☠️

It's quite actually a step by step playbook to give the president total power over the government

Other countries have done this before

It's called fascism

And I'm realizing the reason Americans are so in denial about it is because Americans haven't faced a real threat of fascism until now

As a matter of fact, the leader of the government, as in the president, was recently given immunity powers by the Supreme Court. A very similar thing happened just 6 months before the Nazis took over Germany and became a 1 party state in the 1930s

[placid jacinth]

It rlly isn’t to some ppl

[pine quest]

most blind trump supporters are just sadly uneducated lol

[wide pawn]

The Heritage Foundation is one of Trump's strongest supporters and Trump was always on their side. The only reason Trump is mad at them is because they made it too obvious what they're gonna do

[pine quest]

how are you not educated on your own country's politics...?

[wide pawn]

I sincerely hope America sees a left-wing blowout to stop far-right policies like we saw in Europe

[stoic lodge]

Hopefully

Trending that way

Trump campaign is absolutely stalled and sinking, especially with Vance lmao

Trump is gonna get absolutely throttled at the debate

He'll be spewing nonsense and talking loud with his 5 year vocabulary

There will be no rel substance from him

[marsh panther]

did you see some of trump's quotes and stuff from his rally yesterday

[stoic lodge]

Then when Kamala raises her voice or does a targeted attack on Trump then Trump will call her a nasty woman

[marsh panther]

he's washed it's insane

he literally had his crowd bored as hell

[stoic lodge]

"North Carolina!"

(He was in Pennsylvania)

[stoic lodge]

His *tiny crowd

[placid jacinth]

If I was there I’d fall asleep in a second. Also unrelated but happy bd bestie!

[marsh panther]

thank

but yeah some of the quotes from yesterday were wild

[placid jacinth]

Very tiny