US Politics

[sonic wedge]

LOL

[vapid nova]

unified ireland in my dreams i guess

[sonic wedge]

also scotland has almost no abortion clinics and we need to travel to england to seek treatment

so common sense!

😻

[scenic veldt]

Oh I see… but I mean the tories aren’t trying to ban abortion like the GOP is what I mean

[weary coral]

1st of all - common sense…?

There’s no PR (although Reform would make up 20% of the vote - so that’s scary)

65+ can use their travel card photo ID - others cannot (Tories!!)

900 thousand people in London are eligible to vote but can’t because they have no photo ID

[royal badge]

The tories are just there own form of stupid

[weary coral]

The Tories are the Tories

[royal badge]

Back to US politics

[weary coral]

[scenic veldt]

Ik but I’m just comparing it to the USA 😭😭 I realize the uk is far from perfect but sometimes it’s nice for me to think of how not down the deep end we are compared to the USA

Anyways back to the U.S.

[vapid nova]

i hate to say y'all are just as bad in different ways

[royal badge]

Is Vance as skilled as you’d think?

[scenic veldt]

Also things can only get better now with that labour majority

[scenic veldt]

I’m sorry but we are a full democracy while the USA is ranked as a flawed one 😭😭 I will defend uk politics forevermore

[vapid nova]

its so useless to claim superiority when its like not there the labour party and that antisemitism scandal under corbyn

[vapid nova]

you literally have a monarchy 😭

[reef zenith]

There is a free voter ID option from the Government.

[scenic veldt]

Starmee did a great job rooting that out

[royal badge]

Aeth why are you here no mods

Stay apolitical

Useless

[vapid nova]

still exists and im sorry but boris johnson is NOT a good look

[weary coral]

He doesn’t appeal to a new voter base

It’s a cocky appointment - and one you’d only make if you thought you’d won the election

[reef zenith]

I am welcome to have my centrist political views

[vapid nova]

margaret thatcher the islamophobia is hell

[scenic veldt]

Monarchies don’t mean less democracy lol the majority of the top ten most democratic countries (including Norway which is number one) have a monarchy. Aka like half of Northern Europe

[royal badge]

VP rundown

[royal badge]

Mikeey is MAGA

[weary coral]

[vapid nova]

a monarchy is not a democracy 😭

[reef zenith]

We live in a constitutional monarchy

we have a democracy

[scenic veldt]

A constitutional monarchy is very much a democracy. The monarch has no power whatsoever

[weary coral]

I am in no way a ‘fan’ of the royal family

But if it means a government like ours rather than a US style government, it’s better than that

[scenic veldt]

We are a “full democracy” and rank close to the top ten while the USA is outside the top twenty and ranked a “flawed democracy”

[reef zenith]

The benefit of our countries parliamentary system is the Supreme Court has little power… anyhow, lets try to keep this channel on topic

[vapid nova]

ur 17th

yes and the US also has a democratic republic you have a parliamentary democracy there is no real definition of full democracy

[scenic veldt]

Yup exactly

[vapid nova]

we're 36th this is pointless

[scenic veldt]

So we agree both our counties are democracies

[scenic veldt]

Omg damn 😭

[vapid nova]

yes but one isn't better then the other

[scenic veldt]

Let’s get back to U.S. politics guys

[scenic veldt]

True that

[vapid nova]

canada is 24th

[scenic veldt]

Fun fact Canada is also a monarchy

Which is kinda weird lol

[vapid nova]

so thats why im frustrated cause the superiority complex other countries have is so dumb europe was five seconds from fascism

[vapid nova]

not weird they were a colony

[scenic veldt]

Trueeee

[vapid nova]

that never really broke off iirc

[scenic veldt]

Ok true tooo

[royal badge]

girls

[vapid nova]

thats why im like "hold on now" america is going through a rough patch with trump but we had obama before

[scenic veldt]

Thoughts on Obama?

[vapid nova]

great moderate president for the time not talking his war politics because thats america

[scenic veldt]

Yup

[vapid nova]

and britian actually lol the western world is messed up

[scenic veldt]

Yea sad that the far right is so mainstream now in the west

[vapid nova]

exactly!! we're all in this together

[scenic veldt]

Yea

[placid jacinth]

Brainwashed literally

American ppl are stupid when it comes to elections honestly

[vapid nova]

its literally from the word in latin

[royal badge]

You’d think the results are already decided

Harris wins

[placid jacinth]

I never said the results are decided

[weary coral]

Oh dear
We’ve hit rock bottom with this discussion 😭

[vapid nova]

well when people start insulting an entire countries intelligence it gets a little heated

[sick garden]

Thoughts on Kamala? I haven't really been giving this election any thought to be honest. Beacause I thought both options were awful.

[royal badge]

She is a solid candidate

But she has always been shy on her policies

That is apart from abortion rights

[sick garden]

ok ty!

[royal badge]

Over this campaign you’ll see what she stands for now that Biden isn’t calling the shots so just keep an eye on the news or social media 😊

[sonic wedge]

generalisation is offensive

[cold bane]

Because legal immigrants feel that it’s unfair that they had to do a lot of hard work to get into the country and they believe illegals immigrants didn’t. That’s what they believe at least

[somber thunder]

I think she’s a great candidate, and hope she can pull out a win. It would be amazing to have a female president, but I’m not sure if the US is ready for it.

[placid jacinth]

I mean what do you want me to say? That we’re the smartest when it comes to elections? There are some pretty obvious things that are bad like project 2025 and some ppl let it go under the radar + I’m American myself so I’d know

[sonic wedge]

i never said you should say they're the smartest

i just said you shouldn't generalise

[placid jacinth]

Can’t generalize when I seen it myself lmao

• I’m speaking on what I’ve seen

[weary coral]

Very good speech yesterday - confident and funny too whilst being truthful

[sonic wedge]

you've seen every single american to exist ever? that's an achievement

[placid jacinth]

Did you not see what I said? 🤦‍♂️

[sonic wedge]

yeah i did.

[placid jacinth]

Speaking on what I’ve seen

[sonic wedge]

generalisation annoys the life out of me, it irks me so bad

[somber thunder]

@civic barn

HOWDY

[marsh panther]

ha ha hey can you not fucking say shit like this

cause i'm very very much not MAGA and it feels fucking weird and gross

[civic barn]

IM SORRY HI

okay so

I think

trump could be better than kamala

[vapid nova]

explain how

[sonic wedge]

stop rage baiting 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[somber thunder]

kamala is better then trump but idk if she can win

[marsh panther]

well for the democrats kamala gives them a much better chance vs biden

i mean hell look at the amount of donations that came pouring in once it was announced joe was stepping down

[somber thunder]

definitely. I just dont think america is ready to elect a woman

[marsh panther]

time will tell and with a whole bunch of first time / new voters

it helps a lot

[vapid nova]

also hillary lost more because she was hillary clinton and less because she was a woman

[somber thunder]

I think it will matter a lot on who she decides her vp would be

[marsh panther]

correct

the thing from the right was "b-but her emails!"

"crooked hillary!"

vs look out how the right has reacted in regards to kamala coming in

[vapid nova]

i think kamala is more charismatic and trumps VP has caused him to BOMB

[marsh panther]

even trump in his first appearance on sunday couldn't even come up with anything

like all bro could come up with was

she has ummm an evil laugh!

like it's giving 5 year old clapback

[somber thunder]

I would love to see kamala destroy trump in a debate

[marsh panther]

trump has already said he'd gladly debate so

we wait

[somber thunder]

im suprised he wants to debate

if i was him i would try to avoid it

[vapid nova]

im not he's pompous

and dumb

[marsh panther]

oh for sure

current polls show kamala in the lead but as always you can not focus on polling numbers

you gotta go out and vote to make those numbers real

[sonic wedge]

young voter registration increased by 700% when kamala announced her running

[marsh panther]

sheeeeeesh

that's good

[loud coyote]

Me too personally I would love to see an attorney general and a dumb businessman battle it out

[sonic wedge]

she has a chance

honestly

[loud coyote]

Presidential debates peaked in 2012 I’m not even lying

[winged ridge]

whats notable is that originally he was going to debate w biden on ABC

now he's refusing to do so there

instead, he's pushing for a fox news debate with harris

(which ofc is friendly territory for him, very intentionally)

[edgy anchor]

is anything fox news is better for harris to win over otherwise republican voters

[winged ridge]

ehhhh perhaps, but the concern is the moderators of a debate on fox news

them not calling trump out on boisterous behavior, but instead limiting harris from responding properly and equally

[loud coyote]

Do the moderators usually fact check though

[reef zenith]

Fox News and fact-checking… in the same sentence (well context) 😂

[loud coyote]

😭😭

[wide pawn]

I think people will overlook that tbh. Biden directly said "defend the police" in 2020 and he still won

Plus, this actually helps her case because she's branding herself as someone going after a convicted felon and rapist

[wide pawn]

Oh where's the source on this one

Young voters were critical to the election in 2020 for Biden's win

One thing I actually do like about Kamala is that she did go after big banks and corrupt politicians as attorney General

[sonic wedge]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/presidential/3097101/biden-withdrawal-spurs-38000-voter-registrations/

it could be his withdrawal to be fair

but daily mail said it was due to kamala running

[wide pawn]

Less than 100,000 votes decided the 2016 election

Tens of thousands is significant

[sonic wedge]

every vote is important

i get i'm not american

but it annoys me when i see people say they won't vote

[wide pawn]

In Virginia the balance of power in their legislature was decided by literally 1 vote a few years ago

Literally 1 vote

[loud coyote]

Oh for sure

[wide pawn]

Yeah I hate that too. Like if you don't vote you can't complain imo

[loud coyote]

I have so many people I know that refused to vote before Biden pulled out due to a lack of better candidates

Kamala coming in changed a few things, well at least in my friend circle lol

[wide pawn]

Even if you vote third party that's better than not voting

[wide pawn]

I also know people who would vote for Kamala but not biden

[loud coyote]

Real

[pine quest]

why not?

[wide pawn]

Mark Kelly and Josh Shapiro are apparently the 2 frontrunner for VP pick

[noble flame]

Hearing, yet to be reliably verified, that Beyoncé and Taylor will be hosting a concert for Kamala in SoFi in probably September when Taylor has some down time. Other artists rumoured to be there will include Ariana, Billie, Jay-Z and Kendrick. Others too.

If true, that’s the youth vote, especially the female voter base secure.

[somber thunder]

same. You refuse to vote, but then you just complain about whoever wins.

[vapid nova]

beyonce did give her permission to use one of her songs

[somber thunder]

i mean in 2020 mike pence openly said that he wouldnt dine alone with a woman, it recieved backlash but not as much as it should have. Also you can look up crazy videos of trumpers saying that a woman should never hold any office. While this is definetly a more far right belief, i worry many moderates in swing states might have a similar opinion

[austere coral]

Oh yeah THAT’LL swing it for sure, Beyoncé has never had a concert promoting a female Democrat nominee before

[unborn moss]

would love to be there lol, major artists and for a good cause too

Sadly cant attend due to location issues

Interesting to see how that would go though

[placid jacinth]

Where did you hear this from??

[somber thunder]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fact-check-taylor-swift-and-beyoncé-hosting-joint-concert-in-support-of-kamala-harris/ar-BB1qznHc taylor would definetly not do this bc shes on tour, but maybe beyonce

[unborn moss]

Ive never heard of this joint concert but that would be nice to see

[weary coral]

What’s the summary? I don’t have the app

[somber thunder]

it was made up by some untrustworthy british news site, and has not been confirmed by anybody

[weary coral]

What was the news site

[somber thunder]

uk discoverer

[weary coral]

I don’t think there is such a thing

[royal badge]

Taylor has time in September as the tour will be on pause from the 20th august till the 18th October

On BBC news one of trumps former close advisors said if he is reelected it will be “a hard 4 years”

LMAO

[dusty sparrow]

is this act real

[onyx merlin]

kamala is in houston apparently i think

[low zephyr]

KAMALA KAMALA KAMALA WE LOVE U

[low zephyr]

did yall js watch biden's address?

[cold bane]

No what did he say

[placid jacinth]

Yes

[placid jacinth]

Basically he’s stepping down to pass the torch to the new generation

Which is respectable imo

[cold bane]

Wait so he’s resigning?

[placid jacinth]

No that’s why he’s stepping down from reelection

[cold bane]

Oh ok

[placid jacinth]

He’s still gonna do his duties as president till his term is over

[storm garden]

is this real

[lucid ridge]

Lmao yes

[noble flame]

It’s nonsense from a non reliable site.

[flat coral]

uh oh

i can’t speak on the accuracy of this but im hoping it’s not accurate

[somber thunder]

PLEASE KAMALA WINNN

[reef zenith]

the disapproval dropped 5*% since January according to that

[somber thunder]

Let this poll be fake lol

[flat coral]

it’s more like 4-5%

[reef zenith]

people just have to get out and campaign for her

[flat coral]

we need a taylor swift endorsement

[reef zenith]

being cynical about polling just perpetuates people staying at home and not voting as it feels hopeless

[flat coral]

true

[reef zenith]

Considering JD Vance attacked Taylor indirectly I would expect something soon

[flat coral]

i mean im barely too young to vote i just like to keep up with current events 😭

the good thing is that kamala and trump already seem pretty close in polls and her campaign literally just started this week

[weary coral]

What states had most say?

[sweet marsh]

trump and joe are so enemies to lovers

[somber thunder]

Tf

How

[fresh field]

yeah 2016 the polls also said things

and we ended up with dorito man

[marsh panther]

Which is why it's important to focus on getting your vote in and not numbers/polls

[fresh field]

But im happy to see this biden thing went over fast

if he took longer to like hand over the candacicy

it wouldve been very bad

bad look for democrats

[royal badge]

General Election Poll - Georgia

🔴 Trump 48 (+2)
🔵 Harris 46%

Last poll - 🔴 Trump +10

[marsh panther]

why does the kamala campaign ad go insanely hard

https://vxtwitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1816436341703397765

[placid jacinth]

Oh my lord she’s coming to absolutely whoop this man, this is a campaign ad I fw with 🙏

[quick carbon]

Trump is right in one thing

They really need to arrest every people that fire usa flag

[quick carbon]

In prison

[unborn moss]

Kamalas marketing team just gets it done

[wide pawn]

Could take time for it to go up. Trump's are very low too. She's polling better than Biden, that's for sure

[wide pawn]

That's a margin of error right there!

[winged ridge]

yeah uh we’ve actually had a SCOTUS case that decided it’s legal to light the US flag on fire as an expression of free speech, which is protected under the first amendment.

Texas vs. Johnson

https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/facts-and-case-summary-texas-v-johnson

so no, they shouldn’t be arrested for it because it’s an act that’s been decided as constitutionally legal decades ago.

[quick carbon]

Yeah but in my opinion if u burn it u need to get arrested

[wide pawn]

There's a conservative group that's trying to bring a case to SCOTUS that would reverse the marriage equality ruling from 2015. Presidents pick SCOTUS justices. Let's NOT let Trump pick the next one

[winged ridge]

so i just explained why that shouldn’t be the case because, once again, it’s a protected form of free speech, which means that if this were taken away, it would also weaken the precedent protecting other forms of free speech.

[winged ridge]

slamming my head into a desk

[wide pawn]

There's literally been plans to do that after they reversed Roe v Wade. Now that they know they can do it once, they're trying to undo it all

[winged ridge]

though tbf justice thomas has made it abundantly clear that he wants to destroy most of the major cases that depend on the precedent set by roe

[winged ridge]

oh i know

don’t worry

poli sci major here lmao

[wide pawn]

Yeahhhhh. He's old enough that the next president could pick his replacement. I don't want Trump to pick his replacement

[wide pawn]

Oh slay

[winged ridge]

if they pick from the court of appeals for the 9th circuit to replace him i may go crazy

[vapid nova]

as someone already said the court ruled in the past its allowed

On June 21, 1989, a deeply divided United States Supreme Court upheld the rights of protesters to burn the American flag in a landmark First Amendment decision. In the controversial Texas v. Johnson case, the Court voted 5-4 in favor of Gregory Lee Johnson, the protester who had burned the flag.

[quick carbon]

I know and in my opinion they need to change it

[placid jacinth]

Imo it’s a form of free speech, I don’t see why you should be charged or arrested bc you feel a certain way

[vapid nova]

thing is that ruling is about more than burning the flag and reversing it would cause other freedoms to be nullified

[placid jacinth]

^

[vapid nova]

since Texas v. Johnson basically rules "symbolic speech – no matter how offensive to some – is protected under the First Amendment."

[placid jacinth]

If you find it offensive that’s fine I mens you have every right/reason to feel offended if you want to, but you can’t rlly reverse a form of free speech

Whether it’s burning a flag or not

[vapid nova]

Laws are never as simple as they seem since the goal is to make large statements that cover lots of ground instead of many specific ones

and you don't have to like something for it to be permissible under law

[wide pawn]

Thomas would definitely vote against freedom to burn a flag

[vapid nova]

thomas is a rapist

[wide pawn]

Yeah and that

But hey, Republicans love them

They might re-elect one this November

[quick carbon]

idk i don't feel it is right and not just usa.... like burn your own country flag if u don't like ur country go to other country

it is just like to hate ur own country

but it's my opinion

[vapid nova]

to be 100% thats why freedom of speech exists because if you get in trouble for speaking against your country well

[quick carbon]

i don't know it is just don't feel right to me

[vapid nova]

who im voting for this year

[placid jacinth]

Well it’s a form of free speech you can feel a certain way about your country and it doesn’t mean you have to express that feeling only one way. Burning a flag of your country doesn’t necessarily means you hate it. Can be for many different reasons. Can be bc you don’t like the direction your country is going, or you’re expressing what you think is the downfall of your country. It can be many things. It’s ok if you don’t like it and that’s fine, no one’s gonna force you to like it. But overturning that form of free speech would also cause other freedoms to be nullified.

So it wouldn’t be only 1 thing being affected

[sonic wedge]

this is so badass and i am so sad i cannot vote for her from scotland

[sonic wedge]

arrested for burning a flag?

[quick carbon]

in my opinion

[vapid nova]

america is literally oh how the turn tables have tabled rn

[sonic wedge]

its an unusual opinion but fair enough

why do you think they should be arrested?

sorry if you've already said

[quick carbon]

it's ok

i'm not talking special to the usa

[sonic wedge]

you mean in any country?

[quick carbon]

but because burning your own country flag in my opinion is just symbol to hate your own country and it's unrespectable, the same as burning lgbt flag or those things

i don't really thing prison or something like this

[sonic wedge]

i think it could depend on context

[quick carbon]

yes

[sonic wedge]

if your country, for example, was invading another, and you no longer love your country for doing so, in some cases people would burn the flag as a form of protest

do you think those people should be arrested

like if the Uk invaded like

[quick carbon]

but in my opinion, burning your own country flag is not only against the government, it's like the country. flag does not represent the government

[sonic wedge]

who invents flags for countries

is it the gov or someone else

like do they pick what it looks like

[quick carbon]

i'm talking about more independent countries

[sonic wedge]

i read through and agree with this

[placid jacinth]

[somber thunder]

This is sorta funny https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/07/25/kamala-harris-sexism-2024-election-first-woman-president/74526878007/

[placid jacinth]

The min I saw “Welp” “Childless cat lady” I immediately clicked off

You rlly can’t be talking serious in an article if you using those words to talk about something

[somber thunder]

I’m pretty sure the article is fake and just meant to be funny lol

That was at least how I felt about it

[sonic wedge]

that is so problematic wtf.

i swear USA today is meant to be a good source too

i bet if kamala was a guy they wouldn't point out their "childless" life

[placid jacinth]

More just childish

[placid jacinth]

Hopefully

Bc if not then

😬

[unborn moss]

yikes

messy article I cant take it seriously

from usa today too? lol

[placid jacinth]

Can’t take em seriously at all anymore

[unborn moss]

iirc I found out about biden dropping out from usa today

fell off

[somber thunder]

It is fake it quotes a famous comedian in it

[unborn moss]

didnt bother reading it

[somber thunder]

It’s just satire and making fun of the republicans views on Kamala

[unborn moss]

wait now I wanna read it

[somber thunder]

Jd Vance said that im pretty sure the author quoted him to be funny

Im like 99% sure the article is satire

No actual news publication would say smth like this if it wasn’t

[placid jacinth]

“Lol”

[wide pawn]

Trump's VP choice criticized her a while ago because she's a "childless cat lady"

Taylor should host an entire concert for Kamala over that comment imo

[pine quest]

“childless” why does that matter? gross 😭

[wide pawn]

Because they see women as baby-makers

They've made that perfectly clear the last few years

They even went after AOC for being childless, and she was like still in her 20s

[weary coral]

As in the lettuce? Or Liz…

Liz becoming the first former PM to lose her seat in 100+yrs

[somber thunder]

That’s disgusting

Why can’t they just let people do there own thing 😭😭

[vapid nova]

the lettuce 😭

[vapid nova]

why would i ever vote for liz truss

[flat coral]

jd vance is so weird about family stuff

i heard he wants people to be paid for having children and “repopulating the world”

not even for like childcare or anything just for making babies

[pine quest]

thats nasty bruh

[placid jacinth]

That’s disgusting bro

[flat coral]

im actually not 100% sure if its true but i wouldnt be surprised

[weary coral]

Vance doesn’t appeal to a different voter base at all

It’s an appointment you’d make if you think you’ve won the election

[vapid nova]

he converted to catholicism so hes tradcath

[flat coral]

I feel like they specifically picked him cause they felt like they had the run against Biden in the bag but now that Biden is gone they’re like wtf do we do

[weary coral]

They tried to go towards the centre after 2020, but Trump’s following is what kept him as candidate

Most republicans don’t like him

[reef zenith]

Burning the US Flag is constitutionally allowed, according to the US Supreme Court (i did not see dos’ reply lol)

[vapid nova]

its okay we love you aeth

[naive robin]

'welp'

[placid jacinth]

Welp

[hasty beacon]

Swifties! There is a women for Kamala call going on now and they are fundraising for Kamala! Link to donate- they have raised over 1.2 MILLION since 8:30 pm https://secure.kamalaharris.com/a/womenforharris-hvf?attr=112974915

[placid jacinth]

Lmao

[flat coral]

Trump backed out of the debates for now

What a joke

[wide pawn]

He what

I'm trying to read about it

He wants to move it to Fox News

He's scared lmao

[flat coral]

Yeah 😭😭

He thinks the Biden debate was biased against him so now he deserves one that favors him

I don’t think he realizes this is a new candidate now 😭

[wide pawn]

I'm inclined to think I don't think the debate would help or hurt her

[flat coral]

Idk

Biden’s ratings dropped really badly after the debate

I think it could definitely help her cause she would for sure destroy trump in a debate

[wide pawn]

Well Biden's performance was abysmal

The thing is, Kamala was a prosecutor, she knows how to go after people

Trump is a felon, her job was literally to convict people like him

So yeah, I guess it would help her to debate

[placid jacinth]

He’s shitting his pants as we speak

Kamala coming for him

[storm garden]

I would love to see TS showing up to DNC and performing, bonus if one song is "Who's Afraid of Little Old Me"

or Miss Americana And The Heartbreak Prince, which was def political and pro-Dem

On second thought, MAATHP may be too defeatist

[wide pawn]

She'd have to catch the first flight out of London and head right to Chicago but it's doable

Well, she's got her jet, so

[placid jacinth]

So long London and hello Chicago

[placid jacinth]

Def would be rlly cool to see her perform that one

[storm garden]

Downside, it was about aftermath of HRC's defeat in 2016, trauma that the DNC does not need when running a woman 👠 against the Felon (again)

[placid jacinth]

Ohhhh well in that case that’s not an option anymore

I mean unless she changes the lyrics a bit

I doubt

[unborn moss]

andddd im disappointed

[lucid ridge]

This is such an INCREDIBLE ad she's ending him

[reef zenith]

[fresh field]

why though? isnt america about freedom? 1st amendment to voice your opinion

even if that opinion is you hate the usa?

[scenic veldt]

With all the Free Palestine protesters who are planning to be outside the DNC that would not be a good look. I’m predicting she’ll do a post(s) after September and especially during her shows in the fall in the U.S. she’ll encourage people to vote. And then Kamala will also use some of her songs on TikTok’s and stuff and that’ll build hype

[storm garden]

Kamala is more of a Beyonce woman, I struggle to think of TS songs that would fit her campaign's message

[storm garden]

but agree saving a TS message later in the campaign 100% makes sense

TS may be out of the candidate-endorsing era

[scenic veldt]

That’s very true

[storm garden]

She's only sent "register to vote" messages since 2020

[scenic veldt]

Yea exactly

But given that it’s Trump she’s definitely going to directly endorse Harris trust

[storm garden]

After the Biden/Harris cookie post

[scenic veldt]

Yea

I’m surprised they haven’t tapped into Taylor swift yet with all the pop culture stuff her teams been doing this past week

Apparently the Biden camp was covering a Taylor endorsement earlier this year and that was their ultimate endorsement holy grail but for Kamala the shift to Beyonce makes more sense

[scenic veldt]

Wait also karma would be a good song but other than that I can’t think of anything lol

[storm garden]

If TS goes full endorsement she could write a brand new song as a single, she did write "Only The Young"

Heck she could recycle ♻️ Only The Young, and Kamala needs the Youth Vote

The gun violence message, and hatin' on the GOP with the red stained hands

[storm garden]

Barack and Michelle Obama endorse Kamala Harris for president

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/26/barack-michelle-obama-kamala-harris-endorse/

[bright holly]

Who cares, JD Vance endorsed Taylor Swift for vice president!

At least I think that's what he meant with his childless cat ladies comment

[unborn moss]

😭😭

The whole article was a mess, I clicked off the moment I saw that it started with “welp”

[vapid nova]

its a kamalanomenon

[sonic oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/manlsmonet-gif-23253122

[unborn moss]

Biden woke up one day and said “what we need is a, FEMININOMINON!”

[vapid nova]

https://tenor.com/view/kamala-harris-usa-president-coconut-gif-11037371574501470397

[royal badge]

I think for the first time since she Biden stepped down Harris has overtaken trump in the morning consult national polls by (+1)

[wide pawn]

I learned today that Kamala is more qualified to be president than the last 4 presidents before Biden

She's been a prosecutor who enforces law, a senator, and a vice president

[placid jacinth]

If she doesn’t win then I will be questioning everything

[coarse rapids]

This is fucking hilarious 😂

[placid jacinth]

Oh we up

[flat coral]

I’m not the biggest biden fan but honestly his experience in politics is wild

Senator for like 35 years then vice president for 8

And now president

[weary coral]

[quiet ferry]

the rupaul drag race message she did was perfect

[weary coral]

https://www.instagram.com/stories/gracieabrams/3420813006060072630?igsh=Mm1jZjBpeXZhbDJv

[flat coral]

trump vance is a joke

[placid jacinth]

Gracie, Olivia, Ariana, ok where’s Taylor 😭

[weary coral]

…

[quiet ferry]

i saw a post from someone speculating that they’ll wait until she’s officially the presidential candidate

for a final push

[placid jacinth]

Who?

[quiet ferry]

taylor’s team

[placid jacinth]

Source?

[quiet ferry]

not like them saying it from themselves

i mean like someone speculating

[placid jacinth]

Oh well in that case nothing is official

[quiet ferry]

well yes probably could have worded it better mb 😭😭

[quiet ferry]

there we go

better

LOL

[placid jacinth]

No it’s ok, I mean if they’re waiting idk what there’s to wait I mean she’s getting endorsed by the entire party

She’s got obamas endorsement

I mean I’d have a dislocated jaw if she doesn’t get elected to run

[quiet ferry]

oh god let’s hope it happens

[placid jacinth]

It’d be dumb if it didn’t

[quiet ferry]

i wonder when voting registration closes

[placid jacinth]

No idea, but I wish I could vote tbh

[civic barn]

hi

[quiet ferry]

i don’t even live in america but i’m deep into the lore of it that i feel like i am.

LOL

[civic barn]

I’m gonna same a very not popular opinion

[placid jacinth]

Hi

[civic barn]

I think Kamala is fake

her personality is fake

[placid jacinth]

I mean tbh it makes sense that you would be considering a lot of countries depend on the us

[quiet ferry]

if it is, then i don’t really mind because as long as trump doesn’t make it into the white house

[civic barn]

she needs to decides what she supports and what she doesn’t

are you up there for the black community or are you not?

[placid jacinth]

Tbh I don’t think so, what makes you think this? Even if it is it’s better than project 2025

[civic barn]

Stop comparing her to trump

everything you guys do is compare

[placid jacinth]

Nty

Bc it’s the true

[civic barn]

maybe just take a second and research who is kamala

[rich flume]

Kamala is like our only hope

[civic barn]

PROJECT 2025 IS NOT REAL

[pine quest]

what

[placid jacinth]

Oh lord

[quiet ferry]

because it’s almost like he’s the opposite side

[civic barn]

trump denied it

[quiet ferry]

what a stupid thing to say

[civic barn]

I don’t support trump

[quiet ferry]

of course they’re gonna be compared because it’s literally two sides

[placid jacinth]

Bro? Are you not caught up?

[placid jacinth]

Seems like you rlly do

[quiet ferry]

the true colours always come out eventually

[pine quest]

you usually compare the two presidential candidates…

[quiet ferry]

LMFAO LIKE??

[placid jacinth]

Exactly

[quiet ferry]

am i missing something

[civic barn]

oh yes I support that rights get taken away from me

[placid jacinth]

😭

[pine quest]

and you believe trump? LMFAO

[civic barn]

I don’t like trump or kamala

[rich flume]

So where did the idea come from, what happened to the gay furry hackers that got into it /gen

[civic barn]

kamala is a very fake person

and trump shouldn’t be there

[quiet ferry]

HELP ME

[placid jacinth]

“Stop comparing her to trump” “PROJECT 2025 IS NOT REAL”

You def aren’t caught up if you think it’s fake

[civic barn]

everyone that worked on it USED TO BE WITH TRUMP

show me proof

[pine quest]

then who should be president

[civic barn]

THAT ITS REAL

[quiet ferry]

oh lord here we go

[civic barn]

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-gif-12461869850142254063

[quiet ferry]

that one guy on tiktok who said he’d change the entire us ofc

60 followers

[placid jacinth]

Bro have you not seen who the authors are? Who the cowriters are???

Yea you haven’t been in the internet in ages for sure

[pine quest]

i hope this is a joke

[civic barn]

can u just show me proof that project 2025 is real

[rich flume]

What if they just shut down America and send us all to the Uk

[placid jacinth]

I can’t take you serious

[civic barn]

I don’t trust the internet

[pine quest]

taylor would be a horrible president

[civic barn]

like you guys are saying project 2025 project 2025 project 2025

[pine quest]

?

[civic barn]

Where’s the proof

[placid jacinth]

You want me to pull up a physical document? Is that what you’re asking? 💀

[civic barn]

of that happening

[pine quest]

literally look it up?

the heritage foundation

its literally a 900 page document

[placid jacinth]

Literally

And if you don’t believe the internet

Why are you on the internet?

[quiet ferry]

Whoa actual evidence in my silly Discord server? GET OUTTA HERE

[placid jacinth]

Get your news off the newspaper then

[pine quest]

that is planned to be put into effect during the next republican administration

[rich flume]

The internet is everywhere babes u cant escape it

[placid jacinth]

Or the radio

But DONT come at us for supporting Kamala or bc we know project 2025 is real

[pine quest]

you can support whoever you want but saying its straight up not real is crazy

[placid jacinth]

Especially

When it’s all over the place

Google YouTube tik tok

News articles

[quiet ferry]

it’s kinda crazy because i’m sure this person saw one conspiracy video and went along w it

[civic barn]

I researched it

like project 2025 is bad

but trump literally denies it

[pine quest]

yeah because trump is very believable

[civic barn]

response to Trump's post in July, Project 2025 reiterated that it was separate from the Trump campaign.

"As we've been saying for more than two years now, Project 2025 does not speak for any candidate or campaign. We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy & personnel recommendations for the next conservative president. But it is ultimately up to that president, who we believe will be President Trump, to decide which recommendations to implement," a statement on the project's X account said on July 5.

[quiet ferry]

trump also told you to drink bleach to get covid away

i’m not sure he’s exactly the best source of information

[rich flume]

HELP

[civic barn]

even project 2025 itself said that it’s not connected to trump

[placid jacinth]

Totally believable

[pine quest]

why would he deny it if it gives him more power

[civic barn]

WHO WOULD YOU BELIEVE?

[quiet ferry]

not trump

that’s who

[civic barn]

who give me a name

[quiet ferry]

i believe the democrats party

all of them

[civic barn]

at the end of the day trump is also a person , and a lot of things that are written in project 2025 are extreme and not acceptable

[placid jacinth]

Also not to mention if this mf goes into power he goes immune assuming you also know nothing about out that either??

[civic barn]

hm than it’s like talking to a mirror

[pine quest]

thats exactly what conservatives want

[quiet ferry]

a person who wants to take people’s rights away

[pine quest]

just say you’re a trump supporter

[quiet ferry]

literally

[placid jacinth]

Literally

[quiet ferry]

say it with ur chest

[placid jacinth]

We’re not gonna curse you out for supporting trump, but atp just say it

[quiet ferry]

here’s donald trump and his daughter

[placid jacinth]

I mean my friend who’s a trump supporter told me the exact same shit that project 2025 ain’t real and whatnot

[civic barn]

I’m not a trump supporter

[placid jacinth]

Back when he didn’t look like a wrinkled paper bag

[civic barn]

that’s what the democrats want you to believe

[quiet ferry]

oh my god

[civic barn]

that project 2025 is real

it’s not wake up

[quiet ferry]

that is what a trump supporter would say

[placid jacinth]

How much of this can I take

[pine quest]

you are literally a trump supporter

[rich flume]

Is project 2025 in the room with us

[quiet ferry]

AM I BEING GASLIT HERE

THIS IS ISNANR

[pine quest]

get better ragebait

[placid jacinth]

Yes

[civic barn]

Is it illegal to say anything besides democrats here?

[placid jacinth]

They’re watching for sure

[pine quest]

“wake up” you’re the sheep

[civic barn]

2016-2020 were perfect to America

[placid jacinth]

No but atp just say you’re a trump supporter everything points to it

[quiet ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-angry-bait-troll-super-saiyan-goku-gif-364066589019143316

[civic barn]

im not a trump supporter how much can i say that

I want him to quit too

[pine quest]

please do your research before commenting on serious topics

[placid jacinth]

Then prove it 😭🙏

[quiet ferry]

kamala is brat summer

[civic barn]

I would support someone that would replace trump

[placid jacinth]

Literally

[civic barn]

I did my research

[quiet ferry]

so ur a republican?

[placid jacinth]

No you didn’t lmao

[civic barn]

yall after I ask proof for project 2025: houdini

[quiet ferry]

no we gave you proof

you just ghosted

[pine quest]

😐

[civic barn]

you’re just throwing it without ANY proof

show me the proof again

[pine quest]

watch this

https://www.project2025.org/

[quiet ferry]

LMFAO

[pine quest]

boom!

🤯🤯🤯🤯

[quiet ferry]

ooooo actual proof scary!

[placid jacinth]

It’s online lmao wtf do you want? You want me to mail you a physical 900 pg copy?

Is that what you want?

[civic barn]

the project is real but proof that it’s connected to trump?

[quiet ferry]

now they’re gonna say they alr researched it

[placid jacinth]

Sure I’ll throw $1k ink

[civic barn]

?

[pine quest]

they’re both republican and conservative?

[placid jacinth]

Oh wait so now you’re saying it’s real?

[civic barn]

is that ur proof

[pine quest]

and they want it to be put in place whenever the next republican president is in office?

[placid jacinth]

Make up your damn mind

Is it real or not

[civic barn]

THE PROJECT IS REAL BUT ITS NOT CONNECTED TO
TRUMP

NOT CONNECTED TO TRUMP

[pine quest]

“Project 2025 is the plan by Donald Trump's MAGA Republican allies to give Trump more power over your daily life, gut democratic checks and balances, and consolidate power in the Oval Office if he wins," Biden's campaign states on its website.”

[civic barn]

former*

[pine quest]

what

[civic barn]

former republican allies

[placid jacinth]

You do realize that if he goes into office we’re cooked right?

He’s gonna have immunity

That bs of no ones above the law would be over

Done

Finito

[civic barn]

he was there already I don’t think we got cooked…

I think he was good between 2016-2020

about the immigration

he kept usa safe

[pine quest]

“Agenda 47 and Project 2025 share many themes and policies, including expanding presidential power such as through reissuing Schedule F,[8]: min.00:14 [9] cuts to the Department of Education, mass deportations of illegal immigrants,[10] death penalty for drug dealers, and using the US National Guard in liberal cities with high crime rates or those that are "disorderly".

[placid jacinth]

Maybe bc none of the bs now was there then? I mean shit are you lost?

[civic barn]

source

[placid jacinth]

If he goes into office we’re cooked

[quiet ferry]

yet you realise ur rights will be taken away

[pine quest]

LITERALLY TRUMPS FUCKING WEBSITE

[quiet ferry]

do you want gilead?

[pine quest]

AGENDA 47 IS HIS OWN THING.

[placid jacinth]

Literally 😭

[civic barn]

no , the exact thing u wrote , source?

[pine quest]

wikipedia

[civic barn]

being mad won’t help you funni

keep this without shouting

[pine quest]

being stupid wont help you either

[civic barn]

send the link

[quiet ferry]

clock that fraud

[placid jacinth]

Rage baiting won’t help you either 😭

Or lying

[civic barn]

did I rage bait?

not lying

[quiet ferry]

as fake as trumps dignity

[pine quest]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_47#:~:text=Agenda 47 and Project 2025,with high crime rates or

the proof is right in front of your face

[quiet ferry]

blissfully ignorant response incoming

[placid jacinth]

She’s gonna ask for a physical copy so prepare to waste $1k on ink

[civic barn]

there are good things in project 2025 also

part

[pine quest]

like what

[civic barn]

a small one

about the immigration

[pine quest]

please explain

[civic barn]

and safety

[pine quest]

elaborate

[quiet ferry]

for straight white men?

[civic barn]

and with what Wikipedia said

[quiet ferry]

Oh bc i’m sure they need to be safe

[placid jacinth]

You’re def a republican

[pine quest]

project 2025 will set america back 30 years

[placid jacinth]

And I will move my ass to Japan

[quiet ferry]

ur basically saying fuck everyone who isn’t a white straight male christian

btw..

[civic barn]

good thing that trump doesn’t use it!

[quiet ferry]

oh my fox

[pine quest]

🤦‍♂️

are you even american

[civic barn]

so does agenda 47 have the same policy as project 2025 about abortions and lgbtq?

[quiet ferry]

being a woman and supporting trump when you won’t be allowed to get abortions

[civic barn]

no

[quiet ferry]

insane

[placid jacinth]

Can there be a no stupidity rule in here pls

[civic barn]

learn to respect other opinions

[quiet ferry]

they won’t end with trans and gay people btw

women will be after

so enjoy!

[civic barn]

yall are talking like trump was never a president

[pine quest]

crazy how women vote for him knowing theyll lose rights lmfao

[civic barn]

were there no abortion polices in 2016-2020?

[pine quest]

he lost for a reason

[placid jacinth]

It’s not an opinion anymore if you’re choosing to be ignorant

[quiet ferry]

LOL

[quiet ferry]

and notice how he did a terror attack the moment he lost

[placid jacinth]

Bc they’re prob like her who think project 2025 won’t happen

[civic barn]

trump lost because of his dealing with covid

[quiet ferry]

trump lost because wait

oh my god

he’s a horrible person

Can you believe it

😮😮

[civic barn]

is it he or other people

[placid jacinth]

I can’t

[quiet ferry]

it’s him

trust

[civic barn]

Hillary lost in 2016? Is she a bad person?

[royal badge]

Michigan - 🟡 Tie
Minnesota - 🔵 Harris +6
Pennsylvania - 🟡 Tie
Wisconsin - 🔵 Harris +1

Fox news A - RV - 7/24

[quiet ferry]

she wasn’t president beforehand though

the people who voted for roe v wade to be overturned was appointed by trump 🩶

[civic barn]

trunk lost because of his treatment with covid

[placid jacinth]

You do realize that policies can change right? Rn he could have his current policies and the next thing yk he’ll say no more freedom of speech

[quiet ferry]

when he told people to drink bleach?

I wonder how

next he’ll be saying that if you see a gun, just scream for the gunman to stop

and they’ll let you go

[civic barn]

Yk that can’t happen

he can’t do whatever he wants

there’s a whole Senat

which can be republican or democratic

[quiet ferry]

trump only won because he did a “us vs them” mentality

[civic barn]

and now what do you do with kamala?

[quiet ferry]

she’s brat summer so she’ll automatically win

[placid jacinth]

We compare her to trump bc maybe that’s what you’re supposed to damn do with a election

[quiet ferry]

kamala is brat 💚

[civic barn]

yeah good job kamala you have the gen z behind you!

[placid jacinth]

Which is what we need!

[civic barn]

which don’t know that Kamala literally betrayed the black community

[placid jacinth]

Tyvm

[placid jacinth]

You talk so much shit about Kamala yet none of us have seen one god dam proof of it

[royal badge]

The house was democrat in the 116th Congress yet bills still got passed

[pine quest]

it’s your turn to provide evidence

[civic barn]

there’s proof

[placid jacinth]

Provide it

Rn

I want it rn

You was pressing us about proof now it’s your turn buddy

[quiet ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[civic barn]

I don’t have the power to search it but you can

back when

kamala used to be in California

[pine quest]

what 😭😭😭

what does that even mean

[placid jacinth]

💀

[civic barn]

look it’s 1 am

[placid jacinth]

Yea no you lost

[pine quest]

clearly ragebait

[civic barn]

I didn’t

[pine quest]

just ignore

[civic barn]

let me search it for you!

[quiet ferry]

LMFAO

[quiet ferry]

yes

anyways

[cold bane]

Help what’s happening 💀

[placid jacinth]

Some goofy rage bait

[quiet ferry]

we may have gotten ragebaited

[cold bane]

Oh

[civic barn]

back

ok so

back then

kamala used to be a prosecutor right?

[cold bane]

California general attorney

[civic barn]

prosecutor

[pine quest]

get to the point

[civic barn]

okay so

all her identity was

that she’s from the black community and she’s here for the black community and represents them

and she wanted to change how the system works at jails

but at fact kamala was a very strict prosecutor and she jailed a lot of black people and did not work for changing the jail system

[placid jacinth]

This is a whole lotta yapping

And yapping and yapping

But no proof

[civic barn]

and that’s why she cancelled her campaign in 2020

[quiet ferry]

so she jailed people?

[upper gorge]

source: trust me bro

[pine quest]

marijuana wasnt legal in california, im not sure if it currently is or not, but she had no choice but to jail them

[quiet ferry]

yeah im sure she did the exact same for white people too

so

[cold bane]

She cancelled her campaign because she realized she had no chance

[pine quest]

she was simply just enforcing the law, you know, what a prosecutor does

[upper gorge]

if she didn't put them in jail, it would be discrimination

[quiet ferry]

clock it

[pine quest]

their race doesn’t matter, a crime is a crime

[civic barn]

she had the chance to change things

but she didn’t

[quiet ferry]

this is the guy ur defending

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-girl-dating-comments-sexual-assault-claims-republican-party-a7358686.html

[civic barn]

I’m not a trumpie

[pine quest]

how would she make marijuana legal in an entire state 😭

[quiet ferry]

Uh huh

[civic barn]

All this started from

that I think

Kamala is a fake person

and now I’ve proven it

bye bye

[pine quest]

no you haven’t

you’re leaving because you lost

[quiet ferry]

LOL

[pine quest]

get better ragebait

[civic barn]

https://tenor.com/view/plceinthisworld-taylor-swift-reaction-taylor-swift-kiss-plceinthisworld-kiss-gif-8390679713492693967

[pine quest]

you thought you ate 😭😭

smartest maga supporter

[quiet ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-af-nothing-in-the-fridge-gif-12543865

anyways since that’s over

[placid jacinth]

Knew it

Anyways

[cold bane]

Help?

Not the random brat gif 😭

[quiet ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-kamala-harris-joe-biden-cracking-up-hilarious-gif-18721927

[civic barn]

anyways

[quiet ferry]

oh? weren’t you going

what happened?

[civic barn]

different topic

[quiet ferry]

moving because you couldn’t defend ijbol

[civic barn]

I think usa should be communist. || /j ||

[quiet ferry]

perfect excuse to send this

[civic barn]

anyways now I’m serious

I really don’t want kamala to be a president

because she’s very very known for her changing opinions

and you never know what will happen when she will become a president

will she be more liberal or more conservative

[pine quest]

why would she be conservative....? she's a democrat

you have no idea what you're talking about ijbol

[civic barn]

compare Joe and Obama

you can see whose more conservative

[placid jacinth]

Alr you want your rights taken away

Makes sense

[civic barn]

look I just don’t want HER

other candidate would be great

she’s just fake

[royal badge]

The 3 options are

A strong candidate who is the first woman of color to be running for President planning on building on the success of the last 4 years while combating new issues

A controversial candidate who only wants to win for his own personal gain. This man’s acts and proposals are radical and could lead to division in the country. Some of his acts have been denounced by SCOTUS justices he appointed and even by his own former VP and current VP candidate

Or a guy from a political dynasty who won’t win

[quiet ferry]

THIS

[placid jacinth]

Ty for this

I would pin that if I could

[royal badge]

what was that gif 😭

[royal badge]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-gif-18675569

[placid jacinth]

No idea 😭

[civic barn]

first woman of color but does she represent her color?

[royal badge]

well she does

[quiet ferry]

we went over this before

[civic barn]

okay let’s go over this again

I don’t have power for this

she doesn’t

represent her color

[quiet ferry]

because even you know

[placid jacinth]

I can’t tell if you’re a lost case or a lost needle in a haystack

[quiet ferry]

ur talking shit

[pine quest]

stop giving it attention yall are dumb 😭

literally just ignore

[civic barn]

look

[pine quest]

its so clearly ragebait for attention

[civic barn]

this thread exists

for a reason

it’s not Kamala’s support club

[pine quest]

misinformation is very clearly prohibited

[civic barn]

its purpose is to debate here

and whole point of you saying just ignore is just denying the purpose of this thread

and if you don’t want me to let me say my opinions that means ur not democratic

[pine quest]

misinformation is very clearly prohibited

[quiet ferry]

wait i’m giggling

[civic barn]

I show proof for everything I say

[pine quest]

misinformation is very clearly prohibited

[civic barn]

and you can’t just shut me up

because I showed proof

[pine quest]

no you didn’t

[placid jacinth]

Ijbol there’s a difference between an opinion and speaking about smth like if they’re facts

[pine quest]

i literally disproved your argument

[civic barn]

everything I said is found in this

[pine quest]

but you’re still yapping

[civic barn]

.

[civic barn]

I can say whatever I want

and u spread that trump uses project 2025

And he doesn’t

[royal badge]

The cannabis scandal was a result of California state law also the attorney general wouldn’t preside or be apart of these cases as they are misdemeanour/low level drug charges if she did the backlog would be abominable. By the time marijuana was legalised in California at the end of 2016 she was outgoing and became a senator (therefore no longer holding any judicial office) in January 2017

[civic barn]

MISSINFORMATION

[civic barn]

it’s her fault

I just don’t like her I want another candidate to support in the democratic

she’s a fake person that changes her opinions all the time by the situation

[royal badge]

If you get arrested for having a joint you think the attorney general would even take notice of your case?

[civic barn]

her whole plan at the start was to change what’s going on with jail

and she didn’t

[royal badge]

She did

Proposition 47

[civic barn]

then why almost all of the black community says that Kamala does not represent them?

[royal badge]

She has also introduced bills directed at minority communities

Like the Maternal CARE Act and the Black Maternal Health Momnibus Act

[civic barn]

after all the mess that she did

[royal badge]

How would you know that’s why she decided to introduce these bills?

[pine quest]

it was literally illegal in california dawg

[civic barn]

!time

[sweet pond]

@civic barn's location is not set. 🚫
They need to use </location set:1141925890448691270> to set it first.

[pine quest]

your whole argument is that she hates black people because she arrested them for committing a crime

[sweet pond]

Your location has been set to Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel. 🌍
You can use </location weather:1141925890448691270> to see the current weather at your location. 🌦
People can now use </location time:1141925890448691270> to see what time it is for you. 🕰️

[civic barn]

!time

[sweet pond]

yoswizzle

yoswizzle's location is Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel. 🌍
It is currently 1:56 AM there (Israel Standard Time). 🕰️

[civic barn]

please

It’s 2 am

[placid jacinth]

Why are you doing this here

[placid jacinth]

Just admit your wrong and go to bed

You been out proved

It’s up

[civic barn]

I’m not that’s the point

[pine quest]

we don't care about what time it is for you

[placid jacinth]

It’s over

[pine quest]

!time

[sweet pond]

fuunni

fuunni's location is Riyadh Saudi Arabia. 🌍
It is currently 1:56 AM there (Arabian Standard Time). 🕰️

[pine quest]

see? who cares!

[civic barn]

she doesn’t hate them

all I say is

she doesn’t represent them

She arrested a lot of black people.

she loves israel between wars but when there’s war she hates israel

she needs to decide her opinions

[royal badge]

In a poll in the last 2-3 days in Wisconsin among black voters trump got 0% so she’s doing something right

[royal badge]

How does he hate Israel? This is points is from her address

• Says the war was started by Hamas
• Israel has the right to self-defense
• Hamas slaughtered 1200 innocents
• Hamas killed 44 Americans
• Hamas uses sexual violence
  then Read the names of US hostages. What she does oppose is unnecessary and high numbers of civilian deaths

[pine quest]

didn't she also call for a ceasefire?

[royal badge]

She’s backing the current offer Biden put forward

I didn’t listen to her speech though

[civic barn]

but at the second side

she also says things against israel

[royal badge]

What are these “things”

[flat coral]

i thought she went against netanyahu

[royal badge]

She didn’t go to his speech at congress but they had a meeting

[warm egret]

That’s not the issue the issue is she kept them in jail after their sentence for cheap labor

[placid jacinth]

Proof?

Yall talk and talk but show absolutely no proof or links to any articles that say that

[warm egret]

Lemme find it

Here’s a small snippet hit there was more I found

On a more reliable website too

[placid jacinth]

there surely is more to this

[warm egret]

There’s also the fact she hid evidence that could’ve set an innocent man on death row free… but she withheld evidence until the courts forced her into giving it up… I think it was the Daniel Larsen case I don’t remember the exact case. Idk who I wanna vote for yet because I don’t like either but those are two things that stand out to me

[placid jacinth]

Even if all of this is true which if it is then it’s fucked. The way I see it is

One wants to limit our rights and the other doesn’t

Like I said before in this thread it’s gotten to a point where it’s no longer a “oh I like this person and their policies” type of elections now it’s just gotten to “oh I prefer this running candidate over the other one”

Big diff between those two

[warm egret]

I just joined this thread lol

My issue is I agree with policies on both sides. There’s obvious things I don’t like about Trump but there’s also a lot of policies Harris has that I don’t like.

So it’s like lose lose for me lol

[placid jacinth]

Like?

[warm egret]

If I understand correctly she had the same thoughts about Biden as to sending money overseas and that’s one thing i personally don’t support because people need the money here and also from what I understand her pharmaceutical polices woukd give the government control over some patients. But I like her thoughts on women’s rights

But then switching to Trump j like how he (again if I understand correctly) wants to limit government spending, and doesn’t want to send as much money overseas. But I don’t like his thoughts on trans rights (women’s rights I don’t mind too much because he just wants to put the power in the states hands)

So I’m at a very neutral spot until I find information that truly sways me one way or the other

[placid jacinth]

The sending money overseas I completely agree with. That’s smth I absolutely don’t like which if I’m correct it’s the cause of not the inflation… but this mega inflation problem in America. And as person who comes from parents with low income it gets very hard sometimes to get by with food bc of how expensive everything is. Her thoughts on women’s rights is absolutely something logical that I personally could never see someone oppose besides trump supporters.

I completely agree again with the money thing of sending overseas. However, tho.. that doesn’t make up for all the other absolutely diabolical policies like getting rid of abortion, and then project 2025. Which is one of the biggest threatening things in this election. If his policies weren’t this shitty I’d prob support him, but I just can’t get behind any of his policies except for the no sending money overseas.

[placid jacinth]

The way I see it is.. one is a bigger threat than the other. One wants to give women rights and the other doesn’t. Rights are at risk here and tbh I think that’s what weighs here a lot alongside with project 2025.

[warm egret]

I thought Trump didn’t support project 2025? I always see people saying he does but whenever I ask for a source people say “it’s all over TikTok”

Is there somewhere that says he supports it? Because all I’ve seen is about agenda 47 (which is a lot less severe then project 2025)

[placid jacinth]

@warm egret

They share many themes

I don’t believe that he doesn’t support project 2025 tbh, no reason for me to believe someone who lies. But even if he doesn’t there are also other things here at risk. If he goes into office he will literally have immunity. The whole no one is above the law will no longer be a thing. It’s literally a one way trip to dictatorship

[flat coral]

He says he doesn’t support it but pretty much everyone involved with it has ties to him

Even JD Vance praised it

[placid jacinth]

Exactly

[vale grove]

This is a concept I made

[weary coral]

I don’t expect an endorsement right now

Just like with Obama, it’s their biggest (celebrity) endorsement - they recorded it on the 24th presumably with Obama, but announced it yesterday

There’s no reason to do it right now - there’s a lot of hype, and getting Tay’s endorsement wouldn’t be as effective in comparison to a couple of weeks time

[placid jacinth]

We the people ✊

[vale grove]

“paid by the SWIFTIES of this campaign”

[placid jacinth]

I can see her doing it later I just hope she does it

I don’t see why she wouldn’t

Especially with what she stands by

[placid jacinth]

[weary coral]

She will do it

It just depends on how

[placid jacinth]

Wdym

[weary coral]

There’s different forms of endorsement

I fully expect celebs who have already endorsed Kamala to do something else given that it’s early - but Tay could just do something smaller towards the end and that’d be it

[placid jacinth]

I could see that happening tbh

[weary coral]

I’m not looking too much into - but I think a call to Kamala & a post would be much more effective than just a post

[placid jacinth]

You mean a story?

[weary coral]

Well post/story - same thing really

[placid jacinth]

Post can stay there on their page a story is only a 24 hr thing

[weary coral]

Screenshots and Insta downloaders exist

So it’s really the same thing in the long time

But Yk

[placid jacinth]

Tbh

I’d prob find it funny if I just come across a ad where tay just rings Kamala up and endorses her

[unborn moss]

And Billie!!

[unborn moss]

Then register to vote in america, but dont vote for her. If it affects you THAT much

[placid jacinth]

Oh yes!

[placid jacinth]

It’s rage bait dw

[unborn moss]

https://tenor.com/view/feelsbadman-gif-20220711

[placid jacinth]

[wide pawn]

Idk she seems more genuine but like... still 100% will vote her over trump

She's on the more liberal side, that's for sure

Her record makes that pretty clear

[tiny flower]

u think u just fell out of a coconut tree

[marsh panther]

the trump quote from yesterday is actually insane like

bro literally said out loud he wants to end democracy basically

nuts

[placid jacinth]

What did he say?

[marsh panther]

“Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians!” He added, “You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not gonna have to vote.”

bro is basically saying if i win there will be no more elections

he said the quiet part out loud

like that is fucking insane