US Politics

[unborn moss]

lol wtf 😭

[wide pawn]

A WHAT? A KAMALANOMENOM

[placid jacinth]

A what now

[wide pawn]

A KAMALANOMENOM

[royal badge]

Yes

It’s Joeover

[placid jacinth]

😭

[unborn moss]

it really is

[wide pawn]

[placid jacinth]

It’s joever

[cold bane]

Well charli is her running mate ig

[royal badge]

In 2020 a couple weeks before that election trump said “She (Harris) can never be the first woman president, she could never be. That would be an insult to our country

Now she is the prospective democrat candidate for the 2024 November election

Oh Kamala queen don’t do that to dodo trumpet

[placid jacinth]

I need her to eat him up

[unborn moss]

the last sentence bye

trump u cannot be talking

[austere coral]

hmm i do imagine this will be a well maintained and calm thread

[vale grove]

tbh, this is very calm thread

[unborn moss]

people here are much more civil and literate as opposed to #meredith lol

[austere coral]

i am not remotely gonna converse, i just thought "hmm i am sure the taylor swift thread on US politics will be balanced and healthy" hahaha

[placid jacinth]

Lmao

[placid jacinth]

I approve this msg

[agile pike]

If you’re feeling hopeful for the first time in months, donate $13 to the Harris 2024 presidential campaign 💙 🫶🏼

[placid jacinth]

I’m broke

[dapper sail]

Lmao I love this

[wide pawn]

For real

[wide pawn]

This is actually one of the most polite politics threads I've ever come across

For now, at least

[austere coral]

i am sure

[glad estuary]

brent peterson for president

[royal badge]

Kamala is live on twitter rn

[placid jacinth]

Damn it i don’t got twitter

[storm garden]

kamala’s speach was so good!!

[pine quest]

MY president

[flat coral]

i like kamala i feel like ive seen a lot of controversial stuff about her so it makes me wonder if i should or not but i do

good candidate

[placid jacinth]

What controversial stuff?

[flat coral]

i think a lot of it is about palestine

[placid jacinth]

She’s against them I’m assuming is what it is?

[flat coral]

I think it’s just people thinking she’ll probably take the same route of biden as kinda just ignoring it

[placid jacinth]

That’s all up to her especially if she gets chosen to run in the race. Just bc she’s in the same party as Biden doesn’t mean she’ll follow all of his footsteps I don’t think at least. I’d be surprised if she does. But that’s smth she def has to speak up about for campaigning if she does get verified to run. Depending on what she says depends on who ppl will choose. I also think a good majority of ppl who are undecided are waiting for obamas endorsement, idk I could be wrong about that bc I don’t have twitter which is where most of this stuff takes place

[wide pawn]

Trump's plan is to encourage Israel to finish the job so still better than the alternative

Kamala basically couldn't speak on issues she disagreed with on Biden, because as VP it's kinda your duty to support the president

So we really don't know some of her real positions

Probably not far off from Biden's, I'm sure he considered her positions before picking her

[flat coral]

I know that she’s the better option but I kinda want to have a candidate that I actually like instead of one that I prefer cause she’s not as bad as the other guy

[wide pawn]

Something i learn the older I get is that almost every decision you make is one that's "less bad" than the other

I mean yeah, I don't care for her but I'd much rather have her keep the status quo than Trump dismantle everything

Project 2025 is quite terrifying

[placid jacinth]

So you’re saying

We prob won’t know for sure

Unless someone asks her? Or till the election is over?

Bc I mean if you gonna run you gotta break the silence about it

The war between Israel and Palestine and the war between Ukraine and Russia is smth she has to speak up on especially if she wants to have ppl on her side

Endorsements can only do sm

[placid jacinth]

Tbh we haven’t had a candidate that we actually like in a while I’m pretty sure

Rn is just all I prefer this person over that candidate

[placid jacinth]

Idk too much about it but I heard it’s just terrible

[wide pawn]

To sum it up, it's quite literally a step towards fascism

They'll restructure the government to give the president basically total control

And with the Supreme Court rulings saying the president has immunity... it's almost a guarantee it'll work

[placid jacinth]

Sooo

In one word

Dictatorship

Technically

[wide pawn]

Yeah basically, they want to fire tens of thousands of government employees and have only ones loyal to Trump

Before, most of those were just non-partisan roles that stayed throughout all administrations

That's how you get one party states

The Nazis quite literally did a similar thing before taking full control of Germany

[placid jacinth]

When I heard president has immunity I immediately knew

We weren’t cooked

But just deep fried

In charcoal

[wide pawn]

I mean Trump already tried to spread false claims about the election to stay in power. Imagine what he would do with unchecked power and immunity

[vale grove]

They also want to eliminate the department of education (I think)

[wide pawn]

Yeah that would be bad, but yes they do

[vale grove]

I think us swifties should take over.

[wide pawn]

America was once known globally as the best colleges in the world. Ending the DOE would undo it all

[placid jacinth]

Before I didn’t think trump winning would be this bad but now that you’re breaking it down it’s worse than what I ever thought

[vale grove]

now, the right wing don’t like swifties..they are scared of us

[placid jacinth]

This is exactly what I was thinking…

Hitler shit

[vale grove]

They should be scared of us

[wide pawn]

It's why Trump denied he knows anything about project 2025 despite the fact that many of his advisors are literally authors of the plan

[placid jacinth]

Tbh I have no idea what that would mean

[wide pawn]

He doesn't want people to know

[vale grove]

Doesn’t republicans think that banning books is a good idea

[wide pawn]

Taylor should outright endorse Kamala imo

[vale grove]

She should

[wide pawn]

Yeah... which is funny because the good guys in history are never the ones that banned books

[placid jacinth]

It’s insane to think about

[vale grove]

I’m somewhat scared for Kamala Harris VP pick if she’s nominated

[wide pawn]

She has an opportunity to pick someone really really good

We'll see

[placid jacinth]

Ofc he doesn’t

[vale grove]

Here Rep AOC (D) NY-14

https://youtube.com/shorts/5pkk2WgSO_M?si=j2OJH6YES5OlWFRW

this chat is very civil which I appreciate about this. ya know

[placid jacinth]

She rlly should I mean the o my thing I rlly see her say is “vote” with the voting link attached. She should do what Ariana did, endorse Kamala. She’s one of the biggest artists in the industry rn and she could rlly help flip this if she wanted to

[cold bane]

Tbf both sides of the spectrum want to ban certain books that don’t favor their beliefs. Some republicans want to ban books (specifically in schools) which go against their beliefs (like lgbtq, abortion, etc.) and some democrats want to ban books that go against what they believe is political correctness. I’m not saying that one is worse or they’re equally as bad, I’m just stating what I’ve seen as a person who has spoken to many people from different sides of the spectrum.

[wide pawn]

She indirectly endorsed Biden in 2020, since she's all about woman empowerment I can see her directly endorsing Kamala

[vale grove]

True, I think both sides are bad in their own ways

[placid jacinth]

She did but this time I think she should be fully transparent about it, I fear that an indirect endorsement won’t do as much as a direct endorsement

[vale grove]

Obama hasn’t endorsed Kamala Harris

[cold bane]

The thing is that basically 98% of swifties and most of her supporters have already decided that they’re going for the democrats, so it wouldn’t cause that much of a change

[placid jacinth]

Which is what most ppl are waiting for who haven’t decided

[wide pawn]

He probably will imo

It's only been a day

[placid jacinth]

Especially big Obama supporters from the past

[cold bane]

It’s just a matter of time

[vale grove]

Yeah, or independents

[placid jacinth]

Even then her endorsement would be much better than silence imo whether her fans voted or not

This is a VERY important election

[wide pawn]

I mean to be fair, Kamala already won on the ballot in 2020, people already voted for Biden's replacement which is her

[vale grove]

BREAKING NEWS

[naive robin]

yay

[cold bane]

I thought y’all knew already it was reported like 2 hours ago

[wide pawn]

Like it makes no sense to pick anyone except Kamala

Kamala has access to campaign funds with Biden, others don't

[cold bane]

Now the question is who her running mate is

[vale grove]

I want Gretchen Whitmer to be her running mate

[wide pawn]

I LOVE HER but I honestly am holding out hope she goes for president and I don't want a VP thing to ruin it for her

[naive robin]

i went down a rabbit hole of looking at some nominees from both sides and yeah she is actually better than all of them

[cold bane]

I think that if she wants to win moderates and independents (specially in swing states), a moderate like Andy Beshear or Abigail Spanberger

[vale grove]

Agreed

[placid jacinth]

@wide pawn quick question since I’m still trying to learn about the whole project 2025, ik in one word it would be dictatorship, but what would it mean if they eliminate the department of education

[naive robin]

same

[placid jacinth]

🙏

[cold bane]

Also Gretchen Whitmer says she’s focusing on Michigan this term

[wide pawn]

It would basically give private companies full control over student loans

[vale grove]

One word:

CHAOS

[wide pawn]

Which... I think would be bad because private companies are greedy

[naive robin]

wtf?

they are literally doing anything to squeeze out momey

[fresh field]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[vale grove]

YASSSSSSSS

[naive robin]

thank god

[placid jacinth]

Soooo would that mean we would have to pay more for college?

[cold bane]

In the government, unless it’s turned into a simple agency it’d mean that the section of education would lose importance both in the government, and therefore, in the national budget

[autumn plinth]

YEPPIEEEEE

[fresh field]

agreed tho

[wide pawn]

Right now, companies manage student loans under the supervision of the department of Justice. So like, they can't rig interest rates, they have to be fair about forgiving loans for certain job titles, they have to defer your payments based on certain circumstances

[placid jacinth]

Fuck

[wide pawn]

With no government oversight, they can do whatever they want

[vale grove]

We also need to remeber, if we want a majority of democrats..democrats must regain the majority of the house and hopefully have a chance of keeping the senate but with more seats

[placid jacinth]

Ok ok some progress

I love this

[naive robin]

didn't trump lose the popular vote in 2016 too?

[wide pawn]

Yeah that too

[placid jacinth]

Oh fuck no that would be a one way trip to life in debt

[wide pawn]

It would basically make colleges dumber overtime

[vale grove]

I was somewhat expecting Trump to choose like MTG or Ron Desantis for VP

[slender topaz]

Merica 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[cold bane]

National polling isn’t necessarily what matters. Trump currently is winning in the most important states this election imo (Georgia and Pennsylvania). I say that if he wins those states, Trump wins

[fresh field]

yeah but this image is talking about that republicans need to lose seats in the house and senate too

[placid jacinth]

Damn well there goes me if trump wins 💀

[naive robin]

yeah that's kinda the problem

[wide pawn]

It's not just the president that matters, Y'all need to vote in local elections too. The republican running for governor in North Carolina literally said "some people need killing" in a church like 2 weeks ago

[naive robin]

wtf

[wide pawn]

That's not a joke. That's a real quote.

And he might be the next governor of North Carolina

[naive robin]

these people are so out of touch it's insane😭

[fresh field]

I feel like this election women are going to be detirministic, especially after roe v wade i feel like a lot of the women who can bear a child got radicalised by it and will come out in waves for any blue candidate

[wide pawn]

He also said "2 plus 2 does not equal transgender"

☠️

[naive robin]

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAM☠️☠️☠️☠️🙏🙏🙏

[placid jacinth]

What is he trying to say 💀💀💀

[wide pawn]

I guess he's right. 2 plus 2 is definitely not transgender

[placid jacinth]

It’s 22

[cold bane]

Kamala once said something along the lines that if we reduce the population our children will have our better future

[naive robin]

crazy to see how they are still republican swifties out there

[vale grove]

imagine if Taylor swifts endorses trump

[wide pawn]

https://youtu.be/5GxN5tyLl0A?si=dvBayKD8XgHkFiY8

[cold bane]

Maybe she meant pollution or not, but the point is that it’s kinda weird she said that

[wide pawn]

Just so you know I'm not joking about the quote

[fresh field]

have you watched miss americana at all??

[wide pawn]

So yeah, vote up and down the ballot there's some crazy people

[vale grove]

I have, I’m just joking about Taylor swift endorsing Trump

[fresh field]

she fucking hates trump lol

[wide pawn]

I mean it would be wild

[naive robin]

why are they clapping like they know hwat he means☠️

[vale grove]

I have to the point where I’ve lost count how many times I’ve watched it

[placid jacinth]

I absolutely block her everywhere

Unlike the music

And just leave

[cold bane]

A republican in the 1950s like Eisenhower would never allowed watching their party crumble like that

[wide pawn]

Yeah so

[naive robin]

oh my god yeah😭😭

[vale grove]

BidenHarris has a ring to it

[placid jacinth]

We’re safe 🗣️

[naive robin]

calvin harris 2024

[fresh field]

republicans in the 50's actually had a spine

[cold bane]

Actually if every republican was like him I wouldn’t bother being a republican

[wide pawn]

Eisenhower might be the last republican I liked

That's before the parties flipped too

[vale grove]

I wouldn’t mind Charlie baker being president, he was the governor of MA

[naive robin]

goes downhill after

[wide pawn]

Republicans were liberal in the 50s

[fresh field]

yeah it's almost as if the goalpost has shifted more and more right since the 50's when economically everything was going way better lol

[wide pawn]

Which is ironic, the tax rate for millionaires was 90% in the 50s

That's when the economy was actually great

The government actually cared about investing in people

[vale grove]

Let’s tax the rich

[cold bane]

Personally I’ve done a small investigation on Paul Ryan and he’s relatively decent, he doesn’t support Trump

[wide pawn]

It's wild that normal Republicans 10 years ago were like moderates today

[fresh field]

you know what really killed the economy in the united states? Richard nixon neoliberalism policies with trickle down economics and changing the rules regarding stock buybacks

[wide pawn]

Yeahhhh, and Reagan expanding trickle down economics

There's so many graphs you can find of things in America going downhill starting with Reagan

[fresh field]

it used to be that profits could either go in reinvestment in the company or to the employees

[vale grove]

I can’t imagine a second Trump term

[fresh field]

with the change in rules regarding stock buybacks

[placid jacinth]

We would be cooked

[fresh field]

https://youtu.be/ylLTMYt24lA?t=208

[vale grove]

If he’s elected, I wanna move out

[wide pawn]

The fact that so many Americans saw Trump the first time and want it again makes me want to literally leave the country

[cold bane]

Also John McCain. He was a national hero and had very decent policies

[wide pawn]

I'm working on my greek citizenship, which would let me move to basically any EU country

But I do actually wanna move to Canada

[vale grove]

I might wanna move to Milan Italy. or somewhere in Europe

[placid jacinth]

I would actually take the moment to just take my college 4 years outside the country

I would be a foreign exchange student if I have to be

Can’t trust the debt ill be in on some private companies

[fresh field]

it is absolutely abhorrent what US citizens put up with

[cold bane]

Here in Colombia things are going down with our “president” but I have everything established here. Basically I can’t leave

[fresh field]

as an european im appalled by labour laws in the USA or moreso LACK THEREOF

[vale grove]

new campaign ad from Trump 😭

https://youtu.be/0RLhu9Ngchc?si=jN_kR2v7I4N_TFxa

I DONT SUPPORT TRUMP

[placid jacinth]

Let me see this brainrot

[wide pawn]

Trump supporters might be the dumbest people I've ever talked to

He loves the poorly educated afterall

[vale grove]

Banner changed, I’m subscribed to Joe Biden to see if he’ll put out a video

[placid jacinth]

Honestly I can’t tell what’s worse

Hearing trump yap for 5 mins

Or that ad

[vale grove]

🤣

[placid jacinth]

Truly

[placid jacinth]

Yk what I’m gonna go sub

[vale grove]

to who?

[placid jacinth]

I need to make sure our grandfather is doing good

[fresh field]

what religious indoctrination does to a mf

[placid jacinth]

Who do you think 😭

[vale grove]

Biden

Idk

[placid jacinth]

[naive robin]

this

[vale grove]

I thought you were going to sub to Trump just to watch the ads he puts out

[placid jacinth]

I’d rather sit and watch 50 episodes of skipidi toilet

Before I ever have that in the back of my mind

[fresh field]

https://i.redd.it/fhd2h1b6fidd1.jpeg

[vale grove]

“BIDENHARRIS” has a ring to it

does anyone agree

[naive robin]

joe biden x calvin harris

[cold bane]

It’s just that you get used to it

[vale grove]

true

[cold bane]

But ObamaBiden does NOT have a ring to it

[vale grove]

tbh, I forgot that Hillary Clinton even chose a VP back in 2016

[vale grove]

AGREEEEE

[cold bane]

Clinton/Kaine

Meh I’ll let it slide

[abstract wolf]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNuv1Dcc/

[vale grove]

If Swifties decided to run, what would be our slogan?

[wide pawn]

Clinton really messed up her campaign tho

[vale grove]

“America is better than revenge”

[wide pawn]

She never visited Wisconsin

[cold bane]

“Heartbreak’s our national anthem, we sing it proudly”

Wait no

Ummmm

[vale grove]

She really didn’t promote herself in the swing states enough

[cold bane]

Probably something from MAATHP or Change

[abstract wolf]

Dbatc new national anthem

[naive robin]

its been a long time coming

like

let's be real

[vale grove]

🤣

[cold bane]

I’m afraid the same might happen to Kamala. Her campaign is going to be very short compared to literally everyone that once ran this year, if she doesn’t work as hard as she can, she might and will lose

[vale grove]

Biden slogan: Build Back Better
Trump slogan: Make America Great again
Hillary Clinton Slogan: Stronger together

[placid jacinth]

Me fr

[naive robin]

make america wORSE agakn

[vale grove]

yeah

[cold bane]

I don’t necessarily support Trump but the initials MAGA (ignoring all the context) kinda has a nice ring to it

Don’t burn me pls

[naive robin]

which states are this years swing states?

[placid jacinth]

Get em

[cold bane]

-Pennsylvania
-Wisconsin
-Michigan
-Georgia
-Arizona
-Nevada
-New Hampshire

[naive robin]

ahh ic

[vale grove]

Nevada be slow at counting 🤣

[cold bane]

Imo the most important ones are Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania

[naive robin]

yeah

[vale grove]

So like if the map comes down to PA…

Either one could win

[cold bane]

If we’re putting it like that, it all comes down to that and Wisconsin too. Maybe even Arizona

[placid jacinth]

If it came down to this it would be anyone’s term atp

[cold bane]

Realistically it’d be something like that

[vale grove]

Scary

[cold bane]

But Nevada is also very close to tossup.

[cold bane]

In this case scenario, Trump would only need Pennsylvania. While Kamala will need Pennsylvania and Wisconsin

[cold bane]

And even with that, Kamala would cross exactly 270. Making it the closest election in American history iirc

[vale grove]

yeah

I thought 2000 election was the closest

[storm garden]

i want kamala to win

[naive robin]

i think we all do

[placid jacinth]

The fact that my state “Florida” is a republican state is killing me

I almost don’t wanna even live in Florida

[cold bane]

I’m pretty sure it’s either that, 1876 or 1824

[naive robin]

with the worst bills being passed on? nah id move out already

they are so out of touch its scary

[fresh field]

2000 election was decided by the supreme court in the end

smth about certain ballots which didnt have the bubble punched out properly or sum shit in florida

[pine quest]

we already know how taylor feels about trump but she should definitely say something, she has quite an influence

[fresh field]

Personally i am against influencers/famous people saying go vote for x

i feel like "go vote" is okay

[pine quest]

i mean its up to her lol

i don't remember her saying anything specific recently but she definitely was on bidens side in 2020 very clearly

[wide pawn]

I don't see Kamala winning Arizona

But she could take PA

The reason is because they hate her over there because of the border

Biden won Arizona because Trump dissed McCain and they loved McCain in Arizona

McCain's wife even endorsed Biden over it

[pine quest]

has kamala been officially picked by the democrats yet?

[fresh field]

not yet

but getting much support

so it is likely

[placid jacinth]

Ehhh

In a time like this rn

With an important election like this

[fresh field]

saying to go vote im okay with

[placid jacinth]

Where we have clearly a very big worry (project 2025)

[fresh field]

saying vote x im not

[placid jacinth]

It wouldn’t be bad if they gave a persuasive endorsement

Telling you to vote for x without telling you to vote for x

Basically listing the list of things that are on the line

Which clearly there are some very big important things on the line

[fresh field]

yh

thats fine

[placid jacinth]

And if we rlly don’t want project 2025 to go through

I would take any type of endorsement ngl

Towards Kamala, she’s not the best pick but she’s def way better than wtv could happen if trump wins

[fresh field]

but the media is flopping on reporting

ngl

what is more important:

biden has covid

or

[placid jacinth]

Media will keep doing a shit job

[fresh field]

perhaps yknow the entire thing abt trump being a pedo or project 2025

anyways

my 5 cents

[placid jacinth]

Project 2025 is possibly the biggest threat rn, if im gonna be completely honest. It’s basically a one way trip to hell for us and a one way trip to dictatorship for trump. Which is why it’s prob one of the most if not the most important election

This truly will take the phrase “what our country will look like afterwards” to a truly horrifying level

Honestly if trump wins im not doing college in the us

[wide pawn]

Oh yeah, Trump was a frequent visitor of Epstein's island

There was actually a real victim who was about to testify that ||she was r***d by him|| and she had to pull out because of death threats

[dapper sail]

Nah I can't

political betting 💀

This isn't a sport, it's a presidential election why is there political betting 😭

political draftkings

[unborn moss]

People bet over anything

[dapper sail]

This is not what I expected the American dream to be

[reef zenith]

Because the US is run by money, not democracy

[naive robin]

!?!????!!!!?

[sonic wedge]

oh my

https://x.com/globalpresscorp/status/1815583412423360621?s=46&t=OKgFQFwX7rs9iGIFhc_5iw

Global Press (@GlobalPressCorp) on X

Earlier today the White House abruptly cancelled all of President Biden’s Monday meetings, and had tentatively removed all meetings for the week.

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 3:03 AM

it's fake anyway

but it's scary at a time like this, everything online is fake af

[sonic wedge]

who bet on michelle 😭

[flat coral]

it’s wild how quickly trump became the “old” candidate 😭

bro went from 3 years younger than biden to 19 years older than kamala

[storm garden]

it’s just sooo funny how trump supporrters have so much to say about kamala but never talked about her before biden dropped out

[flat coral]

i honestly feel like it’s the opposite

they have so much to say yet nothing at all 😭😭

talking so much but not actually saying anything

[placid jacinth]

The fact that this is fake is actually scary ngl

Like I genuinely can’t believe that there are “news outlets” making false reports as severe as that

[placid jacinth]

Is this a reliable news source?

If so I cheered

[weary coral]

It’s the bookmakers presumably

[vale grove]

I think so, not 100% sure

[weary coral]

The Republicans wanted Biden to stay in

[tight pilot]

📢🗣️🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🗣️📢

[placid jacinth]

Honestly I hope it’s true

[pine quest]

didn’t trump literally say kamala is easier to beat than biden? lol

[placid jacinth]

😭

[placid jacinth]

Yes lol

[weary coral]

No other media outlet is reporting on it

But some people have been conspiring some stuff, yes

[cloud storm]

Isn’t his vote percentage decreasing though?

[unborn moss]

3 national polls had kamala as the top percentage

[weary coral]

Inform me on the ‘coconut tree’ meme?

[vale grove]

The debate will be interesting to see between Trump and Kamala Harris if she’s nominated for the DP (Democratic Party)

[cloud storm]

Idk it’s just Kamala saying do you think you just fell out of coconut tree

[tight pilot]

Isn’t Trump ahead of Kamala too

[naive robin]

popular vote?

[unborn moss]

Hey atleast we wont have a man glitching every 5 seconds on the debate

[unborn moss]

yeah

[vale grove]

true

[cloud storm]

Obviously votes were made before she replaced Biden obviously no one wants a man who is decaying to be president

[placid jacinth]

She’s more fresh out the slammer than trump and Biden so I’d love to see how she insults him IF he dares 😭

[weary coral]

He had to say something

If you look at his speech last Thursday, it’s really silly how the Democrats have approached it - Trump made the Republicans bored

[naive robin]

it all comes down to the electoral college

[tight pilot]

Why not bring Obama back

[unborn moss]

Trump talks a lot

[vale grove]

Joe Biden was/is that president who’s there just to put some bandaids on America to keep it steady

[cloud storm]

Can’t he served fully

[vale grove]

Yeah

[placid jacinth]

I need her to be nominated

[weary coral]

It’s not Biden’s fault
The party/his family should’ve said something - such a simple and obvious thing to do

[weary coral]

Harris is the big favourite

[cloud storm]

This is such a cult thing to do

[pine quest]

it probably will be kamala

[weary coral]

But I still don’t think Harris beats Trump

[placid jacinth]

She WILL win

[naive robin]

where were they when the kids at school got shot by ar-15

[vale grove]

They REALLY love Trump

[placid jacinth]

I believe

[tight pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/happywithoutjt-kamala-harris-kamala-harris-marching-dancing-kamala-harris-dancing-marching-stan-twitter-gif-27546699

[unborn moss]

Harris SHOULD win

[placid jacinth]

This is insane

[weary coral]

Biden has dropped out very late - only 1 other president has done it this late

[cloud storm]

Right it comes to light when it happens to a president who could care less about situations with children involved

[weary coral]

But I’m not hopeful
It doesn’t affect me directly (thank goodness) - but soon it will

[cloud storm]

It was obviously the best decision for his health though

[vale grove]

I don’t want to jinx anything but I don’t want a repeat of 2016

[unborn moss]

Biden should have dropped out last year

[weary coral]

Yes - but the fact no one told him to drop out before this baffles me

[cloud storm]

God seeing that orange men in office again hell no

[placid jacinth]

He didn’t do it bc he wanted to he was pressured lol, he could have covid and that still wouldn’t have stopped him

[weary coral]

Surely his family would say ‘I love you, but you can’t do this anymore’

[placid jacinth]

If it will soon then you better pray 😭

[pine quest]

wasn’t hillary winning at first?

[unborn moss]

Nawt hillary….

[naive robin]

ew

[cloud storm]

The first presidential debate was the funniest shit ever especially when trump said he didn’t know what Biden said

[pine quest]

cause no one thought trump would win but he did win 😭

[unborn moss]

Trump-biden debates are a whole mess

[placid jacinth]

I mean tbh we all didn’t know what he said either

[naive robin]

literally just peak comedy at best

[placid jacinth]

That was truly his downfall

[cloud storm]

Babe I only got 2 words i could hear from him from the whole debate

[placid jacinth]

Even if they are you can’t lie that you do get a good laugh out of it 😭

[unborn moss]

No definitely 😭

[placid jacinth]

2 words is crazy 😭

[unborn moss]

Its comedic at that point

[weary coral]

Trump’s economic policies:

Increase interest rates
AKA
People with money get richer, and it’s harder to loan in money for the ones who don’t have it

(Making the rich richer and the poor poorer)

Manufacturing
Increasing tariffs - but you can’t flick a switch and suddenly Japanese cars are made in California

[placid jacinth]

Comedy fr

[weary coral]

It’s about making the dollar less powerful

[cloud storm]

Are the rich not already rich? Like what the fuck is the goal of that 😭

[placid jacinth]

We’d be doomed with this

[weary coral]

Look at their voters
Rich men

[unborn moss]

Trump spitting bs as per usual

Rich retired men who play golf and sip beers

[cloud storm]

Trump supporters literally are cult followers

[placid jacinth]

On a Sunday sunset in their roofs

[placid jacinth]

They are the definition of a cult

[unborn moss]

Casually going to europe on a tuesday afternoon

[weary coral]

People voting for Trump are 1/both of these (excluding ‘idiot’)

1. Rich men
2. Racist/homophobic etc. bigots

[placid jacinth]

😭😭

[cloud storm]

I still can’t lie the real woman vote for trump song is fire I’m sorry but they ate idc

[placid jacinth]

Real

[placid jacinth]

The what

[weary coral]

It’s interesting to see what he’ll do with JD V*nce

He doesn’t appeal to a different voter group
It’s an appointment you’d make if you think you’ve already won the election

Now that Harris will be in, Trump may seek an alternative

[pine quest]

trump chose a vp right

[placid jacinth]

Icl…

[unborn moss]

The what song

[weary coral]

Fucking hell

[weary coral]

[weary coral]

Yup

[placid jacinth]

It gives country.. and I usually despise country (which is why I hate debut).. but this actually is good? Like good country? I refuse to believe myself

[weary coral]

How is this good…

😭

[placid jacinth]

Like the music

[cloud storm]

NO SO REAL LIKE I OBVIOUSLY DONT AGREE WITH THE SONG BUT I LIKE THE SOUND OF IT

[placid jacinth]

😭

[placid jacinth]

YES THATS WHAT I MEAN

[pine quest]

from what ive seen he seems like as much of a doofus as trump

[weary coral]

I’ve heard football chants with a better tune

[placid jacinth]

😭

[weary coral]

@pine quest

[unborn moss]

A toddler singing call me maybe off tune would sound better than that lets be real

[naive robin]

real women vote for TRUMP ❤️

[placid jacinth]

I’m dead 😭

[weary coral]

20yrs ago the Republicans would be banned over here (UK)
Now he’d be endorsed

[unborn moss]

what sucks is that many countries are dependent on america

[placid jacinth]

And tbh they depend on this election as well

[placid jacinth]

It’s just very hard to see the ppl of those country sometimes say “how should that affect me?”

[weary coral]

America affects the whole world

[placid jacinth]

Bc your country maybe depends on America? And you depend on your country?

I mean it’s a whole domino effect

[naive robin]

every country

atp

[unborn moss]

They see america as a very prim and proper country to look up to which is sososo very wrong

[cloud storm]

ATP bomb America bc this is a shit show

[naive robin]

maybe if they dont build secret military services here i wouldnt mind staying out of this

[unborn moss]

southparks episode

[round anvil]

Sorry, something went wrong while trying to process fm. Please try again later.
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[sweet pond]

NatTaylorsV

Artist

The Deplorable Choir

Track

Real Women Vote

Now Playing | Total Scrobbles: 71957

[dapper sail]

My favorite song

[naive robin]

we dont need no LIBERAL CHUMP ❤️

[unborn moss]

Poetic

[cloud storm]

I’m an American and I hate America. 🧍🏼‍♀️

[dapper sail]

"Real women vote for Trump"

[weary coral]

https://youtu.be/CSzPS5YZfUM?si=KlJLhBdUimpV90u6

This video is informative

[dapper sail]

I like America, our politicians are just not it though

[placid jacinth]

Fair

[cloud storm]

Like why are we allowing OLD white men to be the leaders of the country…

[weary coral]

Removing income tax
You’d have to increase tariffs by 67% - but companies would stop shipping - so it doesn’t make any sense

[weary coral]

What country?

[dapper sail]

The amount of old people in office who don't seem to understand the American issues that us citizens face on a daily is annoying

[placid jacinth]

Tbh atp with politicians it isn’t a “oh I actually like this politician and their policies” it’s become more of a “I prefer this politician over the other” which is very bad

[dapper sail]

I dont care about their race though

[weary coral]

Oh - you’re American nvm

[naive robin]

yeah😭

[cloud storm]

The only people I see talk about topics are the intelligent young men and woman who go up to the office and try to make them shed lights on those topics but they still refuse to.

[dapper sail]

USA 🦅 🇺🇸

[weary coral]

Voting for Biden imo would be the ‘lesser of 2 evils’

Same with Labour over here

[dapper sail]

Sounds about right honestly

[weary coral]

But now Harris can do something hopefully

[placid jacinth]

It’s better than wtv the fuck trump has in stock for 2025

[dapper sail]

Facts

[weary coral]

Heck, after 2020 the Republicans tried to go to centre-right trying to distance themselves from Trump - but Trump has voters who vote for Trump and Trump only

[placid jacinth]

I mens it literally is true I can’t personally remember when I last saw a politician with good policies that makes me like them

[weary coral]

I agree - look at Project 2025

[cloud storm]

It would be amazing to have not only a woman president but a woman president of color

[dapper sail]

I like RFK Jr cause he seemed to talk more about what the American people are going through and wanting to fix it more than just trying to get elected by trashing on their opponent

[placid jacinth]

It’s a fucking nightmare and what concerns me the most as an uprising college student is the think about the educational system

[dapper sail]

Even though RFK Jr has his fair share to disagree with on

[weary coral]

There has never been a president who was female

[placid jacinth]

Handing it over to private companies to handle our debt is unreliable

[cloud storm]

I never said there was

[placid jacinth]

I want to live and see that moment tbh

[weary coral]

I know you didn’t

But the odds are not in Harris’ favour

[cloud storm]

Here’s the thing no one is ever going to 100% agree with a president

[weary coral]

In terms of the election, that is

[dapper sail]

True

Not a huge fan of RFK Jr's conspiracy theories unless he proves them to be true

[unborn moss]

Whats funny is that he doesnt wanna be associated with project 2025 but has Agenda47 as his platform, which is the same thing if not worse

[dapper sail]

But other then that, his policies are cool and his election strategy isn't to trash on their opponent

[placid jacinth]

Which is why imo more bigger ppl with a big influence should speak up about this or endorse, for example look what Ariana grande did. She endorsed Kamala/biden and I feel like ppl with that kind of status should do the same (Taylor)

[weary coral]

The Democrats have really messed up this election

The 1 time you should not ‘protest vote’ - they are making it an interesting option

All they need to do is a Kier Starmer approach
Just say ‘we’re not Trump - vote for us’
They could even be centre-right and they’d win - but they have fluffed it with their decisions

‘The opposition does not WIN elections, the government LOSES them’

[weary coral]

Agreed - it makes a huge difference in terms of voting outcome - but not enough of the US votes - only 2/3rds

[placid jacinth]

Even if it’s not enough these ppl have the influence and power and they def can cause a difference if they speak up about it in some way

Whether it’s indirect endorsement or direct endorsement

Anything rlly helps

[weary coral]

It’s something that parties never seem to tackle at all

I’ll give you a (bad) example:
Reform UK (you can look them up) have a big presence on TikTok etc. - and are popular with many young votes for their very right wing policies (albeit they have no clue how to run a country - their policies are all about policies to do with the border)

[weary coral]

Yup

But there’s not much in it for those endorsing the parties:
You may get a few thousand new votes off it - but if you aren’t a very well known celebrity, you’re going to get set back more than you will get praised for it

[vale grove]

Yes

[placid jacinth]

I’m talking about very well known artists tho like Kendrick, Taylor, etc artists that have a big influence doesn’t necessarily have to be stadium influence but enough where you know that it’ll do smth

[weary coral]

I know - but just 1 artist realistically won’t do enough - the fact that people have to endorse a party shows the flaws in society really

There should be compulsory education in politics

[unborn moss]

this

[placid jacinth]

I’m not saying 1 artist only there has alr been an artist who endorsed and they have a huge following. And yes you’re right it’s sad it def shows flaws in society and politics in general

The fact that we gotta rely on other ppl with big influence to say smth is genuinely horrifying

[weary coral]

I know old teachers who were political candidates in the UK

Like nope, I wouldn’t want my kid being taught by someone expressing their political outlook

[pine quest]

its so crazy to think that we were so close to living in a world where trump died and biden dropped out, meaning both candidates we thought we had would be gone

[royal badge]

https://news.sky.com/story/joe-biden-drops-out-kamala-harris-democrats-donald-trump-latest-live-sky-news-blog-13177655

[cold bane]

She’s the presumptive nominee

[placid jacinth]

Crazy to think that somewhere in an alternate universe this actually happened where one died and the other was pressured to drop out..

Things would be WAY worse tbh if that happened

America would be way more chaotic than what it is rn

[pine quest]

mainly because of trumps assassination, yes

[reef zenith]

Delayed chaos, as the years go on I feel conflict between the two* political parties is highly likely

[placid jacinth]

It’s prob bound to happen at some point if it hasn’t already

[placid jacinth]

Tbh after the hearing yesterday it was no surprise that she would step down or be fired

She was absolutely unprepared any questions and 99% of the time she was asked smth it would be the fbi this the fbi that

[royal badge]

She was so bad at answering questions

“We don’t have that information yet”

[placid jacinth]

Pointing at the fbi for everything

[royal badge]

Was MTG there

[placid jacinth]

It was 9 days since the assassination and simple questions like oh was there a bomb in crooks car? Who taught him to make a bomb? Never got answers it was always we don’t have that information yet or the fbi is still conducting their investigation, I personally feel like the fbi should be looked into as well if what she was saying is true

[placid jacinth]

No idea tbh, I was only there for like the last 40 mins of it

[royal badge]

The FBI will obviously lead the investigation but the secret service had agents there and was responsible for the most part for security I was expecting the USSS to give more information but I guess all we can wait for now is the FBI report

[placid jacinth]

Absolutely yea but I just don’t understand how you as the director of the secret service can’t have answers to simple questions! I mean everything she was asked was fbi this fbi that, I mean either she just didn’t prepare at all and didn’t bother to even visit the site herself or there was smth going on

[royal badge]

Some of the reps literally gave her yes or no questions and she’d answer with “I uuuuuh I don’t have the information at the time” and when asked why she wouldn’t have the info she’d go “all details will be released by the FBI”

[placid jacinth]

Just bc the investigation is under the fbis hands doesn’t mean she couldn’t have gotten answers from them. The fbi isn’t gonna kill her for asking for answers to a few things. Some things she should’ve known the day of the shooting the latest being the day after.

[weary coral]

95% odds of her getting in

[wise tinsel]

No wayy

[noble flame]

The thing I’ve noticed as a UK resident is that legacy/corporate media in the US failing. More people are going to the likes of MeidasTouch, Young Turks and Occupy Democrats. The fact more Americans are even going to UK based media as they are less biased than Legacy US media. The fact our journalists are asking the questions to the Republicans they hate. The careful surgical takedown of Kari Lake by Emily Matless on The Newsagents Channel on YT is class. Legacy media in the USA is cooked.

[wise tinsel]

Im scared because that same exact person said trump was gonna win

and said kamala wont

[weary coral]

Apparently it was a very strong speech

I saw the end - it’s what the Democrats always should’ve done - just the ‘we’re not Trump’ idea

[royal badge]

Reuters/Ipsos poll (conducted after Biden dropped out)

Harris 42%
Trump 38%
Kennedy 8%

[weary coral]

She’s got a chance

But Trump is still ahead

[royal badge]

Polls with Harris before Biden dropped out had her only 2 points behind trump

[pine quest]

i don’t really know how this works, how are you able to see who has more?

[weary coral]

It’s surveys - taken with a grain of salt

[royal badge]

a number of voters are asked who they would vote for and those results are calculated into percentages i could be wrong or there could be other ways

[weary coral]

Yeah - but there are some people who are ashamed to be voting Republican

Not as many nowadays, but it’s the case with (most) parties

[pine quest]

isn’t that how things always were?

you basically weren’t supposed to say who you were voting for lol

[royal badge]

You aren’t spoiling your vote in any way

[weary coral]

On election day most don’t say because they can gauge personal info etc - but there’s not much difference in saying who you’re voting for

[royal badge]

Yeah you can SAY you’ll vote for someone

[pine quest]

makes sense

i don’t think anyone would be ashamed though? especially republicans lol

[royal badge]

Idk how it is in the US but in the UK no news agency or newspaper etc can talk about the election until 10PM on election day

[weary coral]

Over here (UK) there are lots of people historically who have been ashamed to vote one way or another

[weary coral]

I don’t think the US gauges surveys etc and exit polls as much as the UK does - surveys are taken with a grain of salt here, but it seems as if they are taken literally in the US

I get you need to make as much noise as possible at this point, but ideally it should be on who has the best policies rather than those who shout loudest (duh)

I have realised how simple that sounds

[placid jacinth]

If it was who has the best policies I think it would be more of like a “I like him and his policies” instead of a “I prefer him over the other guy” type of election

[weary coral]

Hence why the Democrats have done such a shocking job in this election

Like I said before, a 3rd party option looks more appealing than it should be

And this is not the time to vote 3rd party

[royal badge]

YouGov poll
Harris 46% (+2)
Trump 46% (-1)

[somber thunder]

Imagine if we got a female president that would be amazing

[wide pawn]

I do think Republicans are scared of Kamala tbh

They wasted months making everything about age

[somber thunder]

Yeah

[wide pawn]

Now democrats can say "hey, we listened. Wbu?"

[somber thunder]

They will find some way to attack her but i can’t imagine what

[somber thunder]

lol that’s true

I wonder when she will choose her vp

[wide pawn]

Well, she's got less than a month

[royal badge]

The telegraph are angry 😭

[wide pawn]

Like i said, they're scared because they've wasted months talking about age

Which is ironic because if Trump wins, he'll be the oldest person ever elected president

[royal badge]

He’ll be the same age Biden is now after his 2nd term

[wide pawn]

Yeah, slightly older technically

And they made it about bidens age 4 years ago too

[royal badge]

Vance could play down that age card

He’s only in his 30’s

But is quite a inexperienced fella

[wide pawn]

Kamala isn't that old but that didn't help Biden's case

[royal badge]

Kamala is 59 Vance is 39

[wide pawn]

Yeah, I mean late 50s is a pretty decent age for presidency

[royal badge]

Better then 78-79

[wide pawn]

It makes sense tho, if you serve 2 terms you finish when you're 67

That's close to normal retirement age

It's the most experienced you can be in a career before most people retire

[somber thunder]

The giggling fool 😭😭😭

[weary coral]

Lmao

[somber thunder]

I wonder if she and trump will debate

[royal badge]

TTPD is out btw

And fyi trump refused to debate her

So has Vance

[somber thunder]

makes sense

kamala would demolish trump in a debate

[royal badge]

Have you seen the pence debate in 2020

She WIPED the floor with him

[somber thunder]

If she can do it with pence then she could easily do it with trump

its honestly smart of him to refuse a debate

[somber thunder]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-he-is-willing-to-debate-harris-multiple-times/ar-BB1quZIj this just dropped an hour ago

[royal badge]

I guess he’s changed his mind that now kamala has the delegates

I think trump will now go with calling everything a coup

[somber thunder]

i would love to watch trump try to debate kamala “ multiple times”

[royal badge]

Especially when he fell asleep during his sons speech last week

[somber thunder]

he’ll come uo with some fun conspirzcy theory or just call everything rigged

[royal badge]

Sleepy kamala

[flat coral]

i keep seeing polls where trump is ahead and the maga people are all hyped but then the same account posted one where kamala was ahead and they all called it fake news and lies 😭😭

[royal badge]

With the “I don’t believe this” gif everywhere

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-lies-liar-gif-18627726

They’re mad a woman is ahead

NPR/PBS/Marist poll entirely post dropout
🟥 Donald Trump 42%
🟦 Kamala Harris 42%
🟨 Kennedy 7%

That’s 1 with kamala ahead and 2 with trumpet and Harris tied

[wide pawn]

I take any Harris vs Trump poll before biden dropped out with a grain of salt

The real polling is being done right now

And the quality polls will take a few more days

[royal badge]

These polls have been taken post dropout obviously at speed but they are still trustable I’d say

[royal badge]

Unlike Fox news

[wide pawn]

I mean she polls better than Biden for sure

[weary coral]

But small scale

[weary coral]

I don’t think Fox and ‘trustworthy’ can be in the same sentence

[wide pawn]

Fox News is legally entertainment so they're allowed to lie by saying they're just "opinions"

[weary coral]

How do you get podcasts on your profile?

[wide pawn]

I'm just listening to them on spotify

[royal badge]

They’ll be employing hinkle next

[wide pawn]

So you just gotta connect your spotify and display as status

[weary coral]

So am I

It shows songs but not podcasts

[wide pawn]

Idk I have no issue showing podcasts

[royal badge]

I’ve actually never listened to political podcasts

[wide pawn]

I stream them the same way as songs

[royal badge]

huh

[wide pawn]

I recommend FiveThirtyEight

They're also one of the most accurate election predictors

[royal badge]

I’ll listen rn

[wide pawn]

I like them when I'm working lol

I'm at work rn

[royal badge]

Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN) introduced articles of impeachment against VP Kamala Harris for high crimes and misdemeanors.

[pine tusk]

Mamala

[noble flame]

The Torygraph. Run by the UK equivalent of the Republican party’s proxies. Take no notice of them, I don’t.

[royal badge]

I live in the UK i have to live with them

[noble flame]

You know how repugnant they are!!!

[royal badge]

They were like the 1 out of 2 newspapers that endorsed the tories

Surprised they didn’t endorse reform

[wide pawn]

Like what she even do

The Telegraph acting like Kamala has no chance lmao

Kamala raised 80+ million in just 24 hours after Biden dropped out

For reference, Trump raised only 70 million in 48 hours after getting shot

Kamala raised more money doing nothing in half the time than Trump got after nearly being killed

[royal badge]

https://tenor.com/view/kamala-harris-do-not-come-gif-25102112

[flat coral]

so is the stuff about kamala persecuting thousands of people for marijuana true or no

ive seen people say both

[pine quest]

trump should also step down but we know he won't lol

[flat coral]

crazy how the trump supporters were so adamant about biden being too old but now trump being 19 years older than kamala and the oldest presidential candidate in us history isn’t an issue to them

[pine quest]

they lost their only argument lol

[naive robin]

hypocrites at best

[wide pawn]

Technically, it was her job whether she liked it or not

She was the attorney General

Her job was to enforce laws, and unfortunately it was illegal in California when she was there

She's pro-weed now at least

[pine quest]

first likable president in a while

[wide pawn]

I gotta say I definitely didn't see people this energized for Clinton or Biden when they were the nominees

[royal badge]

She’s a strong candidate but I don’t think she brings any new radical ideas

Very cautious

While the trump campaign is intentionally loud to attract voters

[pine quest]

i don’t see how trump wins this, why would any woman vote for him?

[royal badge]

General Election Poll - Georgia

🔴 Trump 48 (+1)
🔵 Harris 47%

Landmark communications A+ - 400 LV - 7/22

[flat coral]

trump said he’ll debate kamala

she’s gonna kick his ass lmaoo

[pine quest]

it'll be interesting for sure

when is it?

[royal badge]

FYI a poll from 5 days ago had trump +10 against kamala

In Georgia

[flat coral]

idk if it’s scheduled yet but we’ll prob know soon

[royal badge]

Maybe it will be same time the last Biden-trump debate was scheduled

[pine quest]

i don’t know what he’s gonna say considering he wont be able to insult her LOL

[royal badge]

Probably go after the border

[pine quest]

and he cant call her old cause shes nearly 20 years younger than him 🤦‍♂️

[royal badge]

The only GOP argument for the last 3 elections

[wide pawn]

That's basically a margin of error right there

Like I said, I take any Harris v Trump poll before biden dropping out with a grain of salt

People weren't answering that poll seriously, now they are

[wide pawn]

Her role was just to research what causes people to want to cross the border, she didn't have a job actually patrolling it or anything

They're actually like she was supposed to be there 24/7 on guard

[pine quest]

was she the first female vice president?

[wide pawn]

Yes

[placid jacinth]

Did I miss smth

[pine quest]

it took america like 250 years just for a female VICE president?

[wide pawn]

Yup, basically

It took over 200 years just to have a female vice president on the ballot

[royal badge]

It’s the 2024 Republican Party they don’t know that

[flat coral]

kamala is crushing it in the gen z polls

weirdly enough she only has like 52% of women votes rn 😭😭

cbs poll

i think this is before biden dropped out so im guessing it’ll go up

[royal badge]

That may also be wrong to

[placid jacinth]

Kamala didn’t come to eat I fear…

She came to DEVOUR

[flat coral]

apparently republicans having more than 20% of the black vote is bad for the democrats but idk

[royal badge]

The numbers will dramatically change in the next few days-weeks

[flat coral]

oh for sure

also once the debate happens if trump doesn’t back out

[royal badge]

Also many of these polls favour trump as they were released after he was shot and the RNC

Also the debate plunder will still be on people’s minds

[reef zenith]

delusional conservative voters

although, people can vote whichever way they feel, however it is their responsibility when Project 2025 comes and snatches all their rights away.

[wide pawn]

It's because black voters are normally very democrat leaning

So a small change can make a huge difference

Kamala would actually probably help with the minority vote, obviously since she is one

[flat coral]

im guessing that’ll be up soon

[reef zenith]

I do hope she wins… for the world’s sake

[wide pawn]

Too early to tell

We don't even know her vp pick yet

I think come September everything will make a lot more sense

[reef zenith]

US politics just sucks though, what does your Government even do, like… the campaigning is just “anti-woke agenda” and “they can’t even define a ‘women’”, where are the actual policies that the administration would bring in

[flat coral]

I think josh shapiro would be great

[wide pawn]

Yeahhhhh

[wide pawn]

I think so too

[cloud bough]

our state governor!

[flat coral]

🔥🔥

would be great to sway pennsylvania blue

[errant herald]

Swifties for Kamala Harris 2024!

[placid jacinth]

Preach

[cloud bough]

100%

he is a good governor

[wide pawn]

Kinda seems like Trump should be getting scared, these are new polls released today

Biden was behind in all of them last week

[flat coral]

YEAAAAAAHHHH

does anyone remember if taylor endorsed anyone in 2020

cause I feel like an endorsement from her is like an automatic win in today’s world

[flat coral]

🔥🔥

hopefully she endorses kamala

[wide pawn]

She could, probably when she's on her break tho

Her break is right before the election afterall

[flat coral]

the influence she has is insane

[pine quest]

im slow is she talking about abortion?

[flat coral]

yeah

[wide pawn]

Yeah

[pine quest]

ah okay

great

[flat coral]

mostly posted that cause olivia endorsing kamala tho 🔥

[pine quest]

i actually just had a discussion with my very conservative mom and she actually heard me say my opinion instead of yelling at me 😂

[wide pawn]

My mom is a former Trump lover

I think I was able to convince her

She said she's not voting at all this time, which I guess I'm okay with

[pine quest]

definitely can't convince mine, considering her religious views, but yeah at least she heard me out lol

[flat coral]

my parents are both liberal but they’re close friends with some ppl who are super conservative so it can get interesting when politics come up 😭

[pine quest]

my parents just blindly follow trump lol

since he has good ties with our country i guess? still doesn't make him a good president in my opinion

[wide pawn]

Imo, the difference between the left and right is that liberals call out their politicians, conservatives suck up to them

[flat coral]

https://x.com/kamalaharris/status/1313974028395257858?s=46 😭😭😭

Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) on X

@taylorswift13 @vmagazine @inezandvinoodh Voting never goes out of style. Thank you so much for your support Taylor.

P.S. Please share your cookie recipe.

Twitter · Oct 7, 2020, 10:46 PM

[wheat dune]

Taylor for president 2024

[weary coral]

https://www.instagram.com/stories/oliviarodrigo/3418962820551133724?igsh=cjZoYzV1ZTc5NnM=

[storm garden]

Colbert said there are mash up of Taylor songs with Kamala clips - anyone got any links?

[flat coral]

im a little nervous that kamala won’t win just cause there are so many democrats who are saying “im not voting for a cop !!” and stuff like that

[naive robin]

better than voting for a rapist

just saying

[placid jacinth]

OH

OHHHHH

WE WON SO HARD

That’s the shit I’m talking about

[placid jacinth]

“Voting never goes out of style.” Help that’s funny but cool icl

Where’s Taylor

[storm garden]

Europe, probably Germany given her next show is in Munich

12:33 CET right now, she might be ordering lunch

[storm garden]

thanks

being the meme candidate can't hurt her chances with the 'born-post-2000' demographic

[placid jacinth]

She just might be

[storm garden]

I just noticed her last Eras concert in the US is two days before Election Day

[weary coral]

‘She might be ordering lunch’

Funny

[scenic veldt]

Who do we think Kamala’s running mate will end up being

[scenic veldt]

Now that it’s Kamala I’d say it’s much easier for Taylor to endorse her. Kamala has much more young support than Biden, plus if Kamala picks Shapiro as her VP pick then even better (He’s Pennsylvanian) so right at home for Taylor. I suspect she’ll use her platform at those shows to urge everyone to vote

[weary coral]

It looks like Shapiro won’t be her VP pick

Mark Kelly is 5/4
Josh Shapiro is 3/1

[royal badge]

Is Kelly’s senate seat up for grabs this cycle?

[scenic veldt]

Who’s mark Kelly 💀

[weary coral]

Oh he’s a former astronaut

[weary coral]

Let me check

[scenic veldt]

I’ve heard Shapiro whitmer cooper beshaer all be floated as potential picks but

I’ve never heard Kelly

But Arizona is a swing state so sort of makes sense

But PA and MI are so much more important imo

[weary coral]

Trying to do research but I came across the national review

Who seem quite conservative

[weary coral]

Neither have I - but I know who people are talking about when they talk about an astronaut now

Again, I’ve got very little knowledge on American politics considering I’m not from there

[scenic veldt]

Shapiro brings extra unnecessary baggage considering his views on Gaza but then whitmer would make it an all female ticket which I don’t think people are ready for unfortunately

I still think Shapiro is the best choice tho

[scenic veldt]

I’m not from America too lol

[weary coral]

I’m a little glad at the moment

[scenic veldt]

But trust it won’t be Kelly

[weary coral]

And his views are?

[weary coral]

Bookies normally know more than us

[scenic veldt]

Staunch supporter of Israel, still won’t call for a ceasefire even when the Biden administration has already been supporting a ceasefire for months

[weary coral]

Yikes

[scenic veldt]

That won’t help with disillusioned voters at all

[weary coral]

Unless they try and have him to deploy right-centre voters?

But they don’t need to appeal to anyone

Just the ‘anti-Trump’ idea is enough

[scenic veldt]

Yea true

I already think Biden is on track to lose Michigan which would be bad

[weary coral]

As long as the Dems focus on the anti Trump stuff and Kamala doesn’t go down to Trump’s level when they debate - they could be in a good position

Trump will play dirty in the debate, as long as Kamala doesn’t fall into the trap - she should come much better off

[royal badge]

This is the shortlist

Newsom can’t be picked

I don’t know why beshear is half purple

About beshear

He would definitely be a good pick

[scenic veldt]

He may not be a good pick because his national profile isn’t as big as some of the other contenders, but most importantly he’s from a deep red state that isn’t turning blue in the election

So they’re not gaining anything from beshear like they would with a swing state governed

So no deep blue or deep red state governors including newsom are any good

[scenic veldt]

And Roy Coopers from a state that hasn’t voted blue for president since 08 for Obama so might as well remove him from the list too

[royal badge]

Newsom can’t be on the ticket unless he changes address

[scenic veldt]

Yea and both ppl being from cali would be such an easy thing for the republicans to target

[royal badge]

What the dems would need is practically the opposite of Harris a white, southern/midwestern man who’s approachable

[scenic veldt]

True

I do think Shapiro sort of fits that description plus the road to the White House literally runs through PA

But I’m also a fan of beshear

So idk

I love taking about politics so much I wish I had people in person to talk to 😭😭 I hate summer break ugh

[royal badge]

He very narrowly won his governor election LAST YEAR which would definitely give the GOP a path to attack his experience and would annoy Pennsylvania dems

[scenic veldt]

That is true

Tbf it wasn’t super narrow at all

Won by 15 points in a state Biden won by less than 1

[royal badge]

I still don’t think he would appeal to many voters apart from those in Pennsylvania

[scenic veldt]

That’s true

Same with whitmer outside Michigan

[royal badge]

The US isnt ready for a 2 woman ticket

[scenic veldt]

Yea exactly

Looking at how Ron de santis failed to replicate his local popularity nationally I’m scared about all these governors

But I also don’t think anyone from the cabinet should be the pick

[royal badge]

It’s going to be Kelly or Beshear

[scenic veldt]

I think beshear or Shapiro

We’ll see I’m excited

August is so far away tho

Wait hold uppppp

It’s already July 24 omg

It’s not far away 😭😭

[royal badge]

Kelly ticks all the boxes even if his seat is crucial the presidency is more important then a senate seat

[scenic veldt]

Yea

[royal badge]

Is the AZ governor dem

Messed that wording up

[scenic veldt]

Let’s see

Yup

[vapid nova]

Beshear is great, kelly is also good although in a perfect world mayor pete would be a bigger contender but that ship has sailed

[scenic veldt]

Yup true

I genuinely don’t think Kelly’s even in the shortlist compared to all the governors but we’ll see 😭

[vapid nova]

august is next week 😭

[scenic veldt]

You might be right

[scenic veldt]

Ikrrr times been so weird lately for me

[vapid nova]

I think Kelly is probably in the shortlist because he appeals to moderates

[royal badge]

Beshear MIGHT look good to voters in Georgia

[vapid nova]

which is what Mayor Pete does as well but he's gay so that makes it harder

[scenic veldt]

And pa maybe

[scenic veldt]

Exactly but he’s done a terrific job as transportation secretary if only voters could see that

[vapid nova]

AND Kelly is in a swing state that Biden barely won

[scenic veldt]

But so is shapirooo

[vapid nova]

but you have to remember that its who appeals best and also Pete is young

[weary coral]

Too risky

If he becomes VP but loses the election, does he lose his senate seat?

[vapid nova]

but he's jewish (im jewish lol) and her husband is jewish too so it makes it risky

because of popular opinion

[royal badge]

The governor can appoint a replacement until a special election occurs

I think

[scenic veldt]

True but like why do ppl have to vote based on religion or gender or race or whatever ufhhh 😭

I can see his Gaza stance being problematic with progressives tho

So idk

[weary coral]

That’s how the Republicans get most their votes

[vapid nova]

well a lot of republicans buy into the promises of a campaign instead of knowing that campaign promises are just words

and actual policy change is much harder

[scenic veldt]

Yea true

[weary coral]

‘Christian ideals’

[scenic veldt]

Also are you excited for the first husbands holiday decorations omg imagine the Hanukkah Xmas mashup it’s gonna eattt

[vapid nova]

not just that but also the economics of the republican party are appealing to a lot of people

[royal badge]

Why would anyone even want to vote the same party MTG is in

[weary coral]

Project 2025 - ‘giving more priority to religious reasons rather than LGBTQ reasons’

It’s scary

[scenic veldt]

Okay but Biden economy has been so good for some reason voters can’t see that

[vapid nova]

its more than project 2025 and christian ideals that appeals to voters though idk how to explain

[scenic veldt]

And obviously there’s the border

Which unfortunately Kamala was tasked with

[royal badge]

Because issues like inflation and prices affect people every day

[scenic veldt]

That’s gonna come back to bite

[vapid nova]

yes but if you have conservative economic ideas you want less social programs, so think no on universal health care, no on government aid

[scenic veldt]

And inflation under the Biden Harris administration has come down really well, much better compared to other Rich countries

[weary coral]

The Republicans have no clue

[vapid nova]

a republican wants small federal government larger local government

[weary coral]

Fox News having to pay out nearly a billion for lying on Trump’s behalf

[royal badge]

Even if inflation is lower prices will still go up just slower

[weary coral]

The republicans want to replace civil servants with conservatives

[vapid nova]

i think its important to also understand the party that is currently the republican party wasn't the republican party of pre-2016

[scenic veldt]

True. The thing is overall Biden policies like the infrastructure stuff and his price caps and what not poll super well with voters, they just DONT KNOW that he’s already doing that, which frustrates me so much

[vapid nova]

this is the tea party fringe group taking over via trump

[scenic veldt]

Yes unfortunately people don’t realize that Biden can’t magically reduce prices and make them go back to 2020 levels 😀

[royal badge]

Project 2025 would need a GOP house and senate large majority

[vapid nova]

which has alienated a lot of red or dead die hard republicans

[royal badge]

SCOTUS May also object it

[weary coral]

The republicans tried to revert to centre-right after 2020

But Trump’s following (cult) is what gets them support

[scenic veldt]

Ummm

[scenic veldt]

Exactly

Also inflation isn’t just a U.S. thing it literally happened everywhere

It’s not Biden fault bro

[vapid nova]

i would doubt SCOTUS would object because even Roberts has become less moderate

[weary coral]

But that’s still possible

It would become autocracy if 2025 were to be put in place

[vapid nova]

and he was THE moderate judge on the court

[scenic veldt]

Its worth noting that Trump himself has distanced himself from project 2025

Even tho so many of his people are Architects of it so it’s kind of hard to buy

[royal badge]

If they didn’t I think many more people would see that SCOTUS represents a political party not the law

[weary coral]

“Let’s abolish income tax and increase tariffs by 67%!” Which won’t work because companies won’t ship anymore

Trumponomics at its finest

[vapid nova]

it didn't always represent a party we got screwed by RBG not stepping down during obama

[scenic veldt]

Yea exactly trumps tardifs would send the U.S. into a full blown recession 💀💀

[weary coral]

Yeah right

The people who are involved were senior govt officials when he was president iirc
He’s doing it because the project is controversial

[scenic veldt]

We need the dems to have large majorities in congress so we can add term limits to the SC and codify reproductive rights but were never gonna get that thumping majority 😞

[royal badge]

Agenda 47 x Project 2025

Chaos

[vapid nova]

we can however skew the court back if Harris wins and Thomas dies

[weary coral]

Another one

Increase interest rates

• rich get richer
• poor get poorer

[weary coral]

Agenda 47?

[royal badge]

How do migrants even vote for trump after he called them illegal aliens

[vapid nova]

some do

[royal badge]

It’s trumps manifesto

[scenic veldt]

Apparently he appeals to Catholics a lot and Latin Americans are catholic

[vapid nova]

because a lot of latino voters are catholic and actually more conservative and anti-abortion

[weary coral]

In the UK, calling people ‘aliens’ would receive so much backlash

Is it a more common term in the US? It seems that way

[vapid nova]

yes its an actual term

[royal badge]

Reform UK exists

[scenic veldt]

I love that I’m in the UK… politics is so common sense here, abortion rights, respect for democracy, decency, etc are all viewpoints agreed on by both major parties

[vapid nova]

its a legal term

[royal badge]

wow

[vapid nova]

i hate to rain on your parade but i REMEMBER when ireland voted to allow abortion

[scenic veldt]

The UK is so unpolarized that almost all of the electorate is up for grabs each election like the swing states in the U.S. 💀

[scenic veldt]

Yup wait how does that rain on my parade 😭

[vapid nova]

thats the UK

[scenic veldt]

It’s not

It’s Ireland

[weary coral]

I am fully aware - they have no clue how to run a country

In Farage’s maiden speech, he talked about immigration and A REFERENDUM TO LEAVE THE ECHR

Farage: “in this election it is important to focus on immigration”

Labour: don’t talk about immigration

Farage: “Labour messed up by not talking about immigration!”

[sonic wedge]

no it's not

[weary coral]

20yrs ago the Republicans would be kicked out of the House of Commons

Nowadays, they would be encouraged.

[scenic veldt]

Compared to the U.S. it realllly is

[sonic wedge]

no it's not

[vapid nova]

fml northern ireland and ireland being two different places