Lisbon May 24 - 25

[humble drum]

you can see the 3d stadium

[leaden plume]

VIP is still available but that’s it :(

[humble drum]

if i knew

i got it vip

but i cant no more

[whole horizon]

its not 3d

[humble drum]

its kinda

[whole horizon]

im gonna be here

[solemn peak]

I'm back from my appointment and still got nothing

[whole horizon]

i wanted to be lower but those tickets were sold out

[humble drum]

jesus man you re too far away

[whole horizon]

yeah but its ok

my my told me if i got standing tickets i wouldnt be able to see anything since im short

[humble drum]

so you made it i made it

thats cool

[whole horizon]

I wonder if we get to keep the LED bracelets

[humble drum]

you re going 25 too

[whole horizon]

yeah

[humble drum]

i wish but thats not good

[whole horizon]

i will do ANYTHING to keep it

[humble drum]

me too

obv

so i paid 145 to see her

[whole horizon]

i paid 136

[humble drum]

and im not keeping the bracelet

[whole horizon]

for 2 tickets

[humble drum]

i paid almost 300 for 2 tickets

is the pl 0 side

[prisma oracle]

I think I’m giving up

[solemn peak]

Me too

[prisma oracle]

Should I?

[solemn peak]

I failed

Is there even going to be a general sale?

[humble drum]

well

dunno

its 14:30

probably everything sold out

unless vip

[prisma oracle]

Yeah

[whole horizon]

DONTTT

[solemn peak]

I give up

[humble drum]

Im gomna be there

Gonna*

[whole horizon]

wait how do you see that

[humble drum]

.

[whole horizon]

im there

[boreal obsidian]

how do u see this?

[whole horizon]

but i dont see any option to do that

[eager inlet]

so i was able to get two tickets for 800. that’s so expensive. should i even buy it or wait for resale?

[humble drum]

Click

In te section

Then

[prisma oracle]

They’re going to get more expensive than that I think

[humble drum]

Click

Im the green

Like this

[kind basalt]

resale going to be crazy

oh well, on to the next one

[humble drum]

You click

[eager inlet]

are there no resale markup rules like other places have?

[solemn peak]

When are the general sales happening?

[humble drum]

well i think all the sales is in see tickets right guys?

[solemn peak]

If there is a general sale for Portugal and Spain I could have a chance

Maybe

[boreal obsidian]

how can i see Section 23 PL1

[prisma oracle]

Guys I panicked and I bought a vip one 💀

[boreal obsidian]

which one?

[prisma oracle]

But I was only able to buy one

The 380€ one

Sorry 390€

[vale ore]

Would you rather have the 800 euros or the tickets?

[shut peak]

anyone close by?

[hollow slate]

Sameee!!!

[prisma oracle]

Does anybody know the advantages of having the 390€ vip tickets?

[signal osprey]

I love you for it, I would do the same

What day?

[prisma oracle]

Friday

[prisma oracle]

Thx. My mom’s gonna freak out when she finds out tho…

I’ll give you updates on her reaction

[signal osprey]

Same day! I'll buy you a drink if we bump into each other there 😂

[whole horizon]

im going on saturday

[vale ore]

Sector 9

[boreal obsidian]

me too!!!

im going friday

[opal dune]

day 25?

[vale ore]

Me too

[vale ore]

Is that a reference to something

[opal dune]

your seats on sector 9, which day are you going?

[whole horizon]

they're asking if ur going to the saturday show

[vale ore]

Friday the 24th of May

Oh sorry I think I might actually be sector 8

[whole horizon]

this is my view

[boreal obsidian]

Anyone close to this?

[boreal obsidian]

I don’t understand still how to see my view

[whole horizon]

lemme find your seat

i cant find section 23

[vale ore]

Where can I see it

[whole horizon]

whats ur seat

i'll send a pic

https://3ddigitalvenue.com/3dmap/clients/slbenfica/

here's the website but i can do it for you

[boreal obsidian]

yea i was having thta issue :///

[vale ore]

Sagres-piso 0 Sector 8 Portas 10/11 Block P0S8 Row Y

[whole horizon]

are you sure its "sector 8"

[vale ore]

That's what it says

[whole horizon]

idk then

its hard finding seats

[signal osprey]

Scroll up, you Will find the map. You have the stage um front of you

(I am assuming sector 8 os Numbers 8 on the tickets map)

[humble drum]

Im so happy

I wanna meet zomeone here there is going to be kinda near me

Im in section 30

[humble drum]

Well no ahaha

[humble drum]

Cursor on section 23 click then cursor until fond your row/seat etc... And click

Who is going on 25?

[opal dune]

me

but Piso 0

[whole horizon]

me

[prisma oracle]

UPDATE: She was actually really cool about it and said that was happy that I was able to get tickets

[prisma oracle]

Nice

[whole horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-22-gif-25926635

[signal osprey]

Yay! You got a cool mom

[vale ore]

I'm not sure if this is the only benefit but you get delivered a goodies box

[prisma oracle]

That’s cool

[cedar cradle]

Guys I am so confused about te seating

got this Sagres-piso 3 Sect9 Portas 8/13 Block: P3S9 - Row: D - Seat: 15

was checking here: https://3ddigitalvenue.com/3dmap/clients/slbenfica/ but couldnt find it

section 9 doesnt have that seating

[cedar cradle]

can you help me please?

[whole horizon]

let me see

[boreal obsidian]

@humble drum can u help me find my section?

[cedar cradle]

I was on section 9 and there is no row called D there are only 3 rows

[whole horizon]

yeah im having the same problem

dont worry the website is just outdated

[cedar cradle]

so weird xD

[prisma oracle]

Thank you!

[cedar cradle]

just worried that the view will be bad xD

I got VIP package tho so I was expecting to get a good view at least

[whole horizon]

Your section is near mine (i think) and the view is good

[cedar cradle]

what's yours? the section name I mean

[prisma oracle]

This is my seat

[prisma oracle]

Where is my seat in the stadium?

[boreal obsidian]

Does someone have a proper map of the eras tour in Lisbon with the sections

[cedar cradle]

https://3ddigitalvenue.com/3dmap/clients/slbenfica/

this is all we have but it's crappy xD

I can't understand where my section is

[cedar cradle]

tried searching couldnt find it xD

we need people who are used to going to that stadium to give us info xD

[hard fiber]

where are yall seeing that

[hard fiber]

mee

[cedar cradle]

https://3ddigitalvenue.com/3dmap/clients/slbenfica/

[cedar cradle]

same for me hope to see you all there

never met a swifty in real life

[boreal obsidian]

I NEED HELP FIGURING OUT WHERE S23 PL1

[prisma oracle]

No problem

[hard fiber]

tysm

[cedar cradle]

you're welcome, let's hope the website is outdated because a lot of us are unable to find their seating

this is an updated map

we can use it to know where the section is then go to that website https://3ddigitalvenue.com/3dmap/clients/slbenfica/

this is my view

not sure if it's good or not

doesnt seem good 🥲

[boreal obsidian]

Which way will the stage be because I didn’t buy side view tickets and my section is 23

[warm light]

A reputable newspaper from portugal shared this:

[boreal obsidian]

Impossible to tell because there’s no stage

[cedar cradle]

wait so all vip are at the ver top???

[boreal obsidian]

IM IN THE PURPLE SECTION SLAY

[cedar cradle]

exactly

[warm light]

They shared this in that same article

[cedar cradle]

ah nvm

[cedar cradle]

thanks so much

[cedar cradle]

btw white section is vip one?

[warm light]

yes I think it is

im in the golden circle so POG

[cedar cradle]

right above my section nice!

[cedar cradle]

if my section is that section 9 then it's amazing

right at the front

[cedar cradle]

ah wait you're literally infront of the stage xD

I thought you meant golden section not circle

[warm light]

this comes straight from a very reputable portuguese newspaper so I think its accurante info

[cedar cradle]

that's good to hear

[warm light]

Source: https://expresso.pt/blitz/2023-07-12-Taylor-Swift-no-Estadio-da-Luz-os-precos-dos-bilhetes-para-os-dois-concertos-e-o-mapa-do-recinto-a8517052

for those of you that speak portuguese lmao

[boreal obsidian]

Ok now I’m confused. This shows I’m on the side but the other map shows I’m front view??

[hard fiber]

wait how did you do this 😭

i cant find section 6

[cedar cradle]

give me your seat

okay one sec

[boreal obsidian]

Also @warm light we have the same name

[warm light]

Maia will always be best name

[cedar cradle]

this should be your section give me seat so I can give you more accurate info

[warm light]

I've put the source above, again I do not vouch for that information 100% but its a reputable newspaper 🤷‍♂️

[hard fiber]

its piso 0 section 6 row AC

i think

[boreal obsidian]

Yes but it’s showing two different things no?

Im S23 PL1

[cedar cradle]

seat?

[hard fiber]

29

[cedar cradle]

weird coulnt find it

which ticket did you buy?

[hard fiber]

i couldnt either

[cedar cradle]

from these

[hard fiber]

light green

[cedar cradle]

started doubting mine is even that seat xD

[cedar cradle]

so in this picture it says that vip packages are in the white area

[cedar cradle]

but section 9 is at the very bottom here

which should be my section xD

[boreal obsidian]

Im just confused because the maps are showing 2 different things for me

[cedar cradle]

exactly

I wish we had something updated like UK

where you can actually choose a seat

[warm light]

Im more inclined to follow this layout tbh

[cedar cradle]

I wish I bought two tickets and chose one and resold the other xD

[cedar cradle]

if we follow it it's weird tbh

[warm light]

I guess we'll have to wait for the official layout to come out, idk

[cedar cradle]

yea I guess

no point in stressing over this for now let's wait and see

[boreal obsidian]

But for me it doesn’t really make sense because it puts me on the side- I didn’t pay for side view seats

[hard fiber]

i think the sections are not accurate with the website 😭

[cedar cradle]

and for me it puts me at the very bottom when it clearly says it's piso (floor) 3

[cedar cradle]

yea I think they are very outdated

[warm light]

Honestly I didnt even check what was what, just figured the most expensive tickets were the best view and went with it 😂

[cedar cradle]

my thought exactly was worried to take time and search xD

I spent hours waiting in queue so I didnt wanna lose the chance

[undone hill]

Did anyone else get the 'server busy' message while waiting in the queue? It says page will refresh in 17 seconds but it has been hours 😦

[hard fiber]

i almost bought one for piso 3 but chose to test my luck and see if there were any piso 0 available

[cedar cradle]

I figured VIP pckages would at least get me a decent view

[warm light]

exactly, I grabbed 4 front stage and validated the cart as fast as I could

[cedar cradle]

yea just wait

[hard fiber]

mine was like that for hours too, you have to wait

[warm light]

yes, thats the queue

[cedar cradle]

same

[boreal obsidian]

Yea that’s what I did. But side view tickets were cheaper so I think I got straight on

Because I payed 170 each for my tickets

Whereas the side view tickets were cheaper

[warm light]

I now realize how lucky I am, literally at 12:07 I was in xD

[cedar cradle]

btw will we get the same stage as the US? like with all those effects and so on?

[cedar cradle]

damn xD

[boreal obsidian]

So it doesn’t make sense that I would be on the side

[hard fiber]

i was in at like 13:45 or something, i was already losing hope bahahha

[cedar cradle]

yea let's wait more for some new maps

if I get anything I'll share it here

[hard fiber]

ty

[cedar cradle]

I was in at 15 I think

[warm light]

I bet, I was losing hope at 12:05 lmao

[cedar cradle]

XDD same

[hard fiber]

i still can't believe it 😭

[cedar cradle]

I honestly lost all hope started searching for a way to find tickets xD

[warm light]

I tried the Paris and Lyon sale but it was a shitshow

[cedar cradle]

yea same

[hard fiber]

same

[boreal obsidian]

I don’t when I got in but my order went through at 12:38

[cedar cradle]

Paris stopped early

they rescheduled bu didnt share the dates yet

I was hoping for lisbon anyways glad I got the tickets

[hard fiber]

im scared n1 will have better surprise songs now 🧍

[cedar cradle]

Paris and Spain were just plan B

[boreal obsidian]

I was hoping for Madrid but I’m on the waitlisr 🥲

[cedar cradle]

same

[warm light]

yeah, im following that one close, La Defense Arena is literally 15min from my house 😂

Lisbon was my plan B

[cedar cradle]

daaaamn

[hard fiber]

or better outfits 🤡

[cedar cradle]

I am moving to lisbon soon so it'll be really close

[hard fiber]

at least my favorites, cuz theyre all good

[boreal obsidian]

The Madrid stadium is 15 mins from my house if I don’t get to go I’m gonna be upset

[warm light]

I got house and family in Portugal so it will be fine 😄

[warm light]

good luck 😄

[hard fiber]

same

[cedar cradle]

let's stay in contact if I get in from the waitlist I can buy one for you

[hard fiber]

ill be going from porto to lisbon

[cedar cradle]

nice!

[warm light]

Braga 😄

[boreal obsidian]

A friend of a friend is gonna try for me tomorrow but if it doesn’t work out then yes!

[boreal obsidian]

Madrid to Lisbon, the flights are super cheap

[cedar cradle]

nice then I'll keep an eye for my emails if I get anything I'll let you know, just keep us updated

[cedar cradle]

so you would come same day then leave tomorrow or something?

[boreal obsidian]

Me and my friends are figuring it out wether we want to make it a weekend or not

Because Lisbon is so nice

[prisma oracle]

It should since they’re vip

[cedar cradle]

niice I am hoping you go to lisbon too xD so we can all meet

[cedar cradle]

exactly xD

I hope so

[boreal obsidian]

What date are you going @cedar cradle

[cedar cradle]

oh damn just noticed your date

I am going on the 25th

[prisma oracle]

Which VIP package did you buy?

[boreal obsidian]

I mean i might still be in Lisboa anyway so maybe we can meet up anyway:)

[cedar cradle]

the second cheap one I think, it's the love story one

[cedar cradle]

nice! I am moving to portugal soon so I dont know anyone from there xD

[boreal obsidian]

I will be going with two of my friends but neither of them is Portuguese 😭

One is Italian and the other is Indian

[cedar cradle]

daaamn

I am Algerian xD

nice to meet you all btw

[boreal obsidian]

My grandparents on my dads side were pieds-noirs

Are

[cedar cradle]

really!!

[boreal obsidian]

Yes

[cedar cradle]

damn what a coincidence

[boreal obsidian]

Left Algeria during the war when they were 13 and 18

[cedar cradle]

daamn

nice to know

[prisma oracle]

Idk the name of mine. Was it the 390€ one?

[cedar cradle]

yours is the Ready for it package I think

what do you think is this about

do we get to meet taylor?

[boreal obsidian]

No

[cedar cradle]

so "Tour" is about the Tour itself and not the tour of the stadium xD

[boreal obsidian]

Yeah haha

[cedar cradle]

I hope we get from the vault songs of Speak Now

[boreal obsidian]

I don’t care what we get I’m just so happy I’m going

[prisma oracle]

I think this is mine

[cedar cradle]

yea as I said nice!

where did you find that?

[prisma oracle]

On the see tickets FAQs

What's a laminado? I speak portuguese and I don't know xd

[whole horizon]

This is gonna be my eras tour outfit

except im gonna wear this shirt

[cedar cradle]

I havent chosen any outfits xD

okay so I went in queue again

and found this

wait so VIP packages are going to be shipped??

[prisma oracle]

Neither have I

[cedar cradle]

how can I contact see ticket support?

they said that vip merchandise wont be shipped outside of portugal..

[boreal obsidian]

This i don’t believe is completely correct because it puts me on the side but I didn’t get side tickets

[cedar cradle]

it's on see ticket tho

[boreal obsidian]

Yes but it’s not Eras Tour specific

[cedar cradle]

oh okay that makes sense

[undone hill]

I get a message that only VIP tickets are left

I hope I get some when its my turn!

[cedar cradle]

yea I was in queue just to check and I got in

I'll get out now to leave turn for others

I hope I can find someone to send my vip stuffto

I am not in portugal yet

[signal osprey]

me too!!!!

[junior pawn]

Anyone going on the 24th????

[hard fiber]

im glad someone here is also portuguese

most people who bought tickets were spanish 😭

[signal osprey]

I'm from Porto ❤️

[shut peak]

me too ❤️

[boreal obsidian]

As one of the people living in Spain who bought a ticket in Lisboa I did it because I was on the waitlist for Madrid and I wanted a chance to see her 😭😭😭

[hard fiber]

same 😭 i dont even know if ill make friendship bracelets

[signal osprey]

Who got standing tickets(relvado?)

The APP says I'll ONLY get the tickets on the 10th of May

🫠

[hard fiber]

what does that mean?

[minor surge]

did anyone here buy tickets using your friend's code?

[whole horizon]

same

this is gonna be my outfit

@junior pawn

im also gonna wear the hat

[junior pawn]

TAHTS SO COOL

i ordered the speak now cardigan and I have the red one so I might wear one of those

[prisma oracle]

Me

[junior pawn]

I HAVE FLOOR SEATS AHHHH ❤️❤️

[whole horizon]

tickets are already being scalped

[prisma oracle]

Idk what I’m going to wear yet

[prisma oracle]

Same

[cedar cradle]

those who bought VIP packages do you know when they'll send the merchandise?

[prisma oracle]

I thought you would get them there like in a bag or something

[cedar cradle]

they said they will be shipped

[hard fiber]

guys this is the new map

[prisma oracle]

Oh idk then

[prisma oracle]

Is it official?

[boreal obsidian]

From where

[cedar cradle]

seems like a good view for me

[hard fiber]

i saw it on the official site of the taylor swift portugal updates

[cedar cradle]

its the pink one for me

[boreal obsidian]

Yes look

[boreal obsidian]

Can you hit us with a link

[hard fiber]

yes let me look for it again

[prisma oracle]

I bought vip 4 and I got sector 5. I hope I get a good view.

[prisma oracle]

Even the VIPS are cheaper 😭

[boreal obsidian]

How do we know if we are piso Baixo or Alto

[cedar cradle]

you're in the deep blue one

[hard fiber]

https://twitter.com/pttswift/status/1679164621289144332?s=20

this is the tweet

Taylor Swift Portugal (@pttswift)

O mapo correto já esta disponivel!

Likes

169

Twitter · Jul 12, 2023, 4:23 PM

[hard fiber]

idk im also trying to figure that out

[boreal obsidian]

Obrigada

[cedar cradle]

go to the email

it's there

[hard fiber]

is it?

i didnt find it

[cedar cradle]

yup

[hard fiber]

🧍

ill go look later

[cedar cradle]

this is what it shows for me

Bancada Piso 3 Baixo

[hard fiber]

oh ok

thanks

[cedar cradle]

anyone there?

[boreal obsidian]

Is it?

[cedar cradle]

.

[prisma oracle]

That’s quite nice actually

[cedar cradle]

yuup

[boreal obsidian]

I can’t see?? 😭

[cedar cradle]

the pink one seems way too far ngl xD

I am tempted to buy the other one and sell the pink one

[boreal obsidian]

I’m very happy with P1

[cedar cradle]

entered the queue again let's see xD

the only ticket left

what do you think of the pink position guys?

they updated it in see tickets

[boreal obsidian]

Link?

[junior pawn]

I think pink is fine because you can still see the stage and that’s what it’s about ig

[cedar cradle]

i meant in the purchase page

i went into the queue again

[cedar cradle]

I hope so xD I am worried

[boreal obsidian]

Nosebleeds are good, I saw people in the American leg of tour in the nosebleeds and honestly it’s still really good

[junior pawn]

IM SO EXCITED

[boreal obsidian]

You can see everyone in the stadium

[junior pawn]

AAHHHG

[boreal obsidian]

Me 2

[junior pawn]

YEAH

[cedar cradle]

it wont be very far? I am worried I wont see clearly xD

[boreal obsidian]

Even if you don’t see clearly the screens will help you see her

[cedar cradle]

I hope so well nothing I can do about it all tickets are old now

cant afford the 500eur one

[prisma oracle]

This is where I will be sitting. It’s the vip seats so the dark blue ones. I like them. Of course I’m not like that close to Taylor but it’s also a good view because you can see the whole stage.

[cedar cradle]

I am right above you in the pink one

[prisma oracle]

How much was the vip 3?

[cedar cradle]

it's vip 5

280eur

[prisma oracle]

Nice

I tried to buy the cheapest vip but it said the the vip 5 was sold out so I went for the vip 4

[cedar cradle]

yea I also went for the cheapest vip

[prisma oracle]

I guess the vip 3 were probably 480€

I think it’s always 100€ more

[cedar cradle]

yup

the only left one now is vip1

front stage

so close 🥲

[boreal obsidian]

Im section 23 🫶🏻

[prisma oracle]

And you get early access to the front stage too 🥲

[boreal obsidian]

Section 23 piso 1

[prisma oracle]

Section 5 piso 1

[cedar cradle]

I am section 9 but section 9 is at the bottom xD

and the pink section is atthe top

[boreal obsidian]

24th or 25th?

[shut peak]

Section 7 piso 0

[cedar cradle]

section 9 piso 3 how can I find that xD

[boreal obsidian]

You’re there

[shut peak]

something like this will be the view

[cedar cradle]

thanks for the help I didnt notice the numbers

[boreal obsidian]

Can you help me find mine?

[shut peak]

sure

[cedar cradle]

one sec

weird couldnt find s23 on piso 1

[shut peak]

here

[cedar cradle]

how did you find it xD

[shut peak]

it was kinda hard to find, not gonna lie hahah

a lot of trial and error

[boreal obsidian]

STOP THATS SO GOOD?

IM OBSESSED

[cedar cradle]

yuup it's good

[boreal obsidian]

Thanks ahahahaha @shut peak

[cedar cradle]

btw which package is that?

[boreal obsidian]

I didn’t get a VIP package

[cedar cradle]

yea which ticket?

[boreal obsidian]

Second most expensive non vip

PL1 Section 23

[cedar cradle]

I fel like I got scammed xDDD I mean non vip tickets are all less than the cheapest vip no?

and most of them have better views

[shut peak]

you're paying for the merch you get xd

[cedar cradle]

xDDDDDD I know but honestly I thought vip tickets will have good view I care more about the view and there was no map when I bought

i might trade with someone else or something I dunno xD

and now they are saying they dont ship to outside of portugal xD so I wont even get the merch

[signal osprey]

This map does not seem acurate at all! Relvado is so small

[prisma oracle]

24th

[whole horizon]

Here's my surprise song wishlist (assuming she restarts suprise songs)

[cedar cradle]

guys any ideas where to trade or sell xD

[cedar cradle]

I dig this

I love it

[boreal obsidian]

ME TOO!! We can maybe see each other haha

[whole horizon]

ty!

[boreal obsidian]

It’s See Tickets that published it so I think it is

[whole horizon]

you can sell tickets on viagogo but keep in mind that tickets in there are like 3x more expensive

[cedar cradle]

damn

[boreal obsidian]

If she plays clean I’ll pass away

[whole horizon]

same

[cedar cradle]

how many hours is the concert btw?

[whole horizon]

Idk how long paramore (the opener) is gonna take but taylor's concert is 3 hours long

[boreal obsidian]

3.5 I think

[whole horizon]

yup i saw that, people are scalping them anyways

[boreal obsidian]

I think the openers are on for an hour?

[cedar cradle]

translation pls

[shut peak]

people are talking about an official resale on the seetickets website, but there is no date yet

[prisma oracle]

The good thing about not being in the relvado and front stage is not having to worry about being in a good spot because you already know where you’ll be

[whole horizon]

Basically they're saying that reselling tickets is not allowed and they will cancel tickets that are being scalped

And telling people to not buy scalped tickets because it's most likely a scam

[whole horizon]

did you get tickets btw?

We were both having a hard time getting them

[shut peak]

they refrased it after saying that reselling on the official website is ok for a lower price than payed

[cedar cradle]

I guess I'll just keep these

[cedar cradle]

how to sell on the official website?

[whole horizon]

ohh so you CAN sell them, just not for profit

[shut peak]

here https://www.seetickets.com/content/fan-to-fan

but not sure if this website is only for the UK

[whole horizon]

I just found out you're not allowed to bring water or food to the stadium

also this

[cedar cradle]

I think only in the UK

[junior pawn]

Why’s it always meeee

[boreal obsidian]

No way they don’t let you bring water

Maybe other drinks

[whole horizon]

Estádio da Luz - Eras Tour

Rules:

1- Food and beverages are NOT allowed.
2- Weapons (Guns, knives, bottles, drinking glasses, umbrellas) are NOT allowed in the stadium.
3- Professional Cameras (video and photo) are NOT allowed. Only small and compact cameras with NO lens are allowed.
4- Selfie Sticks are NOT allowed.
5- Throwing objects into the stage will get you kicked out.
6- Respect the seat indicated on the entry ticket.
7- Standing in seating areas is NOT ALLOWED.
8- Advertising and Selling items in the stadium is FORBIDDEN.
9- If you dont behave or disturb others you will get kicked out.
10- It's forbidden to Smoke/Vape inside the stadium. You can only do those things in the stands and signed areas.

[whole horizon]

I simplified the rules of the stadium for yall

[cedar cradle]

thanks a lot

[boreal obsidian]

We can’t stand up during the concert?!

[whole horizon]

You can if you have floor tickets

sadly

[boreal obsidian]

But not if we’re seated??? Are you sure?

That seems crazy

[whole horizon]

that's what it says in the rules

Idk if this only applies to football games tho

because this stadium is designed for football games

[boreal obsidian]

I hope because I want to stand during the concert jajaja

[whole horizon]

SAMEE

[cedar cradle]

I think it's only for football dunno

[boreal obsidian]

Also no way when they score a goal in a football game people don’t stand a celebrate ahahaha

[cedar cradle]

xDDDDDDDDDDDD

an example concert on the same stadium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqFA4gdnXF8

all the people are standing xD

[hard fiber]

but ive seen so many people with seating tickets standing up??

[hard fiber]

probably

[boreal obsidian]

I will be standing as well xx

[cedar cradle]

same xD

[hard fiber]

im overthinking it so much already and it's only next year 😭

[boreal obsidian]

Haha true but we have tickets besties

[prisma oracle]

Yesss. Had to get the VIP one though.

[prisma oracle]

True ahahaha

[prisma oracle]

Where can I buy friendship bracelets?

I wanted to make some not only to the eras tour but also to the LOT which is next week so I need help pls

[solemn peak]

I spent the whole day on the verge of crying for not getting tickets even with a pre sale code

This is me rn

[cedar cradle]

OMG why didnt you come here to ask if one can buy for you

I had spare I would've did that if someone asked

[solemn peak]

Oh

Oh no

Well I was busy the whole afternoon

[humble drum]

Im so sorry

[humble drum]

Me and my sis we're gonna buy, well she s gonna buy

[humble drum]

I wish it was tomorrow, but i think we re all doing that

[vale ore]

Is Row Y at the top or bottom of my sector

[junior pawn]

Idk

[prisma oracle]

Where?

[cedar cradle]

just keep an eye out some people might resell at the original price if they dont use them

[humble drum]

dont know yet i think shes thinking shein

but we re gonna see in more than just 1 place

[solemn peak]

GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS

I'M GONNA SEE TAYLOR SWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFT

I GOT VIP TICKETS TO THE FRONT

[cedar cradle]

NICE TO HEAR CONGRATS

does anyone here have a spare ticket per chance a friend couldnt get a ticket sadly

[solemn peak]

Btw did you guys wait a lot for the confirmation email and the tickets?

On my orders on the see tickets website they say it takes up to 4 hours for them to release them

[cedar cradle]

they said they'll send them before the show by 2 weeks or so

[solemn peak]

Oh I see

I saw my payment through PayPal and found weird nothing came out of it

I find it weird they didn't even send a confirmation email

Though my order is right there, payment and all

Guess I shouldn't worry tho

[shut peak]

I got a confirmation email a few minutes after the purchase, but the tickets it's like Mirou said

[solemn peak]

I see

Still didn't get any confirmation email

I don't even remember which date I picked rn

Oh I think I got the 24th

[shut peak]

you can see that on the seetickets website, and maybe you should send them an email if you dont get the confirmation email just to be safe

[solemn peak]

I will if I don't get an email by tomorrow morining

Only got this from my order rn

and then I get this from the order

[shut peak]

thats the code to enter the presale, not the ticket

[solemn peak]

wait what

so what's up with my transaction

I paid money for a ticket and got nothing?

[shut peak]

contact seetickets to solve the issue

[solemn peak]

wait

the purchase is gone now

wtf

guess it didn't go through afterall

I GOT IT FOR REAL NOW

AAAAAAAAAH

I love how they use the LWYMMD pic for her ticket

[whole horizon]

IKR

[ebon forge]

You think those who didn't get tickets will get another chance to buy?

Like a resale maybe?

[junior pawn]

I don’t know, maybe???

[ebon forge]

God I hope so 😅

[solemn peak]

I was able to get VIP tickets yesterday with the pre sale code

So it's still possible to get VIP ones

But the normal tickets may be sold for good

They were all sold out yesterday at least

And just now I got the code for Madrid

Jeez thanks Spain

[ebon forge]

Oh well 🥲

[cedar cradle]

I get this too dont worry

[cedar cradle]

you got it how?

ah nvm you meant that you can see it in the orders?

[cedar cradle]

Paris ticket selling dates just got announced if anyone is interested

[solemn peak]

I had to buy it again lol

But they didn't count the previous purchase

This last time I got the confirmation email immediately

[cedar cradle]

ah yea that happened to me cause they hold the money for a certain period of time then release it if u dont buy

[humble drum]

you shouldn't show that pls delete that rn

you showing the ref

[cedar cradle]

oh I didnt know

thanks for letting me know

[humble drum]

thats really danger

del rn

fast

[cedar cradle]

ty

[humble drum]

np

[cedar cradle]

I thought that what we get later is the actual ticket and a reference doesnt do anything

[humble drum]

np

well

long story short

I SURVIVED THE GREAT WAR

ahahhahaha

[humble drum]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

why are you in a react server?

are you a coder?

OMG

[cedar cradle]

yea I am a full stack web dev

[humble drum]

well me too

kinda

[cedar cradle]

niice

[solemn peak]

congrats

did you get VIP tickets?

[woven pulsar]

the vip " It's Been A Long Time Coming Package" is for that darker red line in "front stage" right?

(right side)

[woven pulsar]

thats for that dark red line right?

[solemn peak]

Yep

That's the one I got

But for the left side

[woven pulsar]

yipeeee

:( i got for right

[solemn peak]

I think it doesn't make much of a difference

[rigid rain]

What is the best website for resell tickets.

[cedar cradle]

yup it shouldbe that

the closest one to the stage

[cedar cradle]

which date?

[woven pulsar]

24/05

[cedar cradle]

damn for me it's 25th

[woven pulsar]

yeah ik i saw a video that a guy mapped her perfomances yk and asked my friend to tell me which side i should buy (i did the discography ranking so she knows my fav songs and all) according to which songs she performs on which side yk?

[cedar cradle]

give me the video please

I heard that these are the best spots so try to aim for them

I need to see her performance to know for sure

yea I think she mainly stands in the diamond in the middle so those are literally the best spots you can ask for

[woven pulsar]

yeah im going there hopefully

[woven pulsar]

https://www.tiktok.com/@mrperfectlyfine13/video/7214135802018745618?_t=8daAuTjrtyQ&_r=1 it has spoilers ofc cause yk he shows all of the songs and where she performs them

[cedar cradle]

I am not sure how they'll organize it because on on other venues they actually have seatings on those spots, this for example:

[woven pulsar]

but if u want just the lines here it is

[woven pulsar]

whaat thats so weird

[cedar cradle]

also it shows where the towers are for us it doesnt we dont have a way to know if a view is obstructed or not

those black areas are the obstructions

[woven pulsar]

true

[cedar cradle]

thanks a lot

I want to be near the piano but I dunno

she doesn't spend a lot of time on the piano

[cedar cradle]

this is AN AMAZING map

[woven pulsar]

yes

its so usefull

[whole horizon]

Im not gonna tell you because reselling tickets for higher prices is something only a horrible person would do. Besides SEETICKETS will cancel your ticket if you sell it and they'll involve cops

[woven pulsar]

i think that he prob wants to buy one

[cedar cradle]

but seetickets themselves have a fan to fan resale on their platform

it's only normal for fans to resell, some people will buy from multiple countries then only choose one to go to

[vale ore]

Some people realise they can't go and need to resell for face value
And some people want to buy for face value

[whole horizon]

yeah ik it's just that lots of people are buying tickets to resell them

[whole horizon]

yeah but SEETICKETS said you can only sell them for price you paid

you cant scalp them

[cedar cradle]

yea exactly that I agree on

[cedar cradle]

also I hear seetickets will require anyone who bought a ticket to show their ID

so I think it's hard to sell outside of seetickets

[humble drum]

I wish and i had budget for that but i was afraid not aurhorized

[vale ore]

I have two spare tickets, does that mean I can't sell them to friends for face value

[cedar cradle]

they might enable the fan-to-fan sale later but in case they dont I think the only way is for your friends to go with you and you allow them in

[signal osprey]

This is stupid, how can they track the ID to the account? They can't, cause the account does not ask for ID info

[cedar cradle]

but it has your full name.. but yea I agree this is stupid

[signal osprey]

You know you can Edit the name at any time, right?

Anyway, it wont happen

I Saw Ed Sheeran at Lisboa, same place.
He had a "name on the ticket, show ID card" to buy and to enter the stadium. Nobody asked me (or anybody else) for ID to enter the stadium

[cedar cradle]

I do know yea but I do also know that here is a name in the ticket order that you can't edit, and that's what they mentioned when they said they'll ask for it

I am only stating the facts xD I dunno what'll happen and I hope it wont happen

[cedar cradle]

did you buy using seetickets?

[signal osprey]

No, it was Ticketline if I'm not wrong

But the security wont be from the ticket company... They probably wont care about the names on the tickets

[cedar cradle]

I hope so because I have a spare ticket as well and I am waiting for the fan to fan sale so I can sell it at face value

[prisma oracle]

For the people who bought a VIP ticket, when will we receive the items that come with the package? Do I need to register anywhere?

[cedar cradle]

I was about to update you guys on that

so I reached out to seetickets who sent me to this email [e-mail]

This is what they said:

[humble drum]

I WANT THE F VIP

[solemn peak]

Me too

Also

I saw tweets earlier of Portuguese folks being pissed that foreigners got tickets while they didn't make it

And I feel a bit guilty for that ngl

[humble drum]

you re not portuguese?

[whole horizon]

she's brazilian i think

[cedar cradle]

honestly it's sad yea, even tho I am moving to portugal I am still consideerd a foreigner, but it's also sad for us, for example there are a lot of countries that didnt have shows to begin with, and that was our only chance to go

[junior pawn]

Same - but then again I couldn’t get tickets to my county bc they all sold out at presale sooo…

But I do kinda feel bad

[undone hill]

Were these tickets changed to no longer be "lead booker" like they did for London?

[junior pawn]

What does that’s mean

[junior pawn]

I’m confused

[whole horizon]

I think lead booker means that the person who bought the tickets has to go to the show

Like, if your dad pays for the tickets with his card, he has to go to the show

they'll ask for id

BUT i dont think they're gonna do that for portugal

[whole horizon]

Basically they will know the name of the person who bought the tickets because your name is on the card you used

Like, if the name on the card says Taylor Allison Swift, then you need to show an ID that belongs to Taylor Allison Swift

[vale ore]

I hope not cause I'm selling some of mine

[vale ore]

Lmao the example

[whole horizon]

same because im going with my sister and my dad paid for them

or my mom, idk

[signal osprey]

LOL! I used my dad's credit card, so only him can go to the show.

it will be irrelevant

I mean, anyone who got tickets as gifts wont be able to attend the show?!

[whole horizon]

You can go, you just need the person who bought the tickets to go with you

but i dont think this rule applies to portugal

[prisma oracle]

I bought them with my card but with my sister’s code…

If that rule applied to Portugal would the ticket be associated with me or my sister? Ahahaha

[solemn peak]

I bought mine with a card that's mine but I'm not the main owner of it

Hnmm

[vale ore]

It'd probably be the see tickets account name

[undone hill]

Is there anywhere on the ticketing website that has these details? My sister bought me tickets with her credit card and ticket account but she won't even be in the country with me

[junior pawn]

Oh I don’t know - did she book them under your name - I think it also depends what country you’re in but im not sure

[young abyss]

Ticket selling is not allowed in this server

[whole horizon]

THIS!!!!

[humble drum]

Have you heard

Bout

Strike tours

Its a bus that travels from your city to lisbon to the stadium

striketours.pt

[rare veldt]

if ticket selling isnt allowed what would be the best way to reach swifties that wanna sell at realistic prices?

[primal rivet]

HI FRIENDS!!

[primal rivet]

Looks like we'll be seeing eachother! im also 25/05

OH y'all can you help me with what tickets i got

3x BANCADA PISO 0
Block: P0S5 - Sagres-Piso 0 Sector 5 Portas 10/11
Row: U, Seats: 11 - 13

idk whether i got alto or baixo

are they good seats idkk

relaly hope i got baixo cz thats lower bowl ❤️

also does coming early have any significance here?

[primal rivet]

what the helllll so cool how did you afford that omg

[primal rivet]

it didnt show baixo for me

baixp

[primal rivet]

i swear

[primal rivet]

IS IT?

this is all it says

[boreal obsidian]

You’re there

[primal rivet]

Same, but i'm sector 5 and block POS5 and row U, so we're pretty close

[primal rivet]

Yeah but idk if its light green or dark green

[primal rivet]

baixo or alto they havent tlold me

[primal rivet]

is that a good seat 😭

[boreal obsidian]

For sure! You’re gonna be super close and be able to see the stage really well

[boreal obsidian]

That I don’t know- I don’t even know for my tickets

[whole horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-dance-happy-excited-gif-5091160

[solemn peak]

I'll be at the left side of the front stage

if anyone wants to see ME HEE HEE

[vale ore]

I think we're gonna get to hear Castles Crumbling live

[shut peak]

most likely it will happen the same as the shows that HAIM was opening, since it's paramore that will open ours

[whole horizon]

yeah but N1 or N2?

She's not gonna sing the same song twice in a row

paramore is opening for ALL european shows so i doubt we'll get it

[vale ore]

It'll be both on the Speak Now set, like how she added Nothing New and no body no crime to the setlist on the nights that Phoebe Bridgers and HAIM were opening

[whole horizon]

oh i thought you meant suprise songs

[vale ore]

I think Castles Crumbling will be on the setlist for all the Paramore shows

[whole horizon]

yeah i get it now

[vale ore]

Surprise songs I don't mind what we get since any of them are great

And it's just a nice bonus anyway

Even if I get a song I don't like, I'll like it more after because of that memory

[whole horizon]

same

[prisma oracle]

I'm on the same sector but piso 1. I hope I get a good view.

[vale ore]

Do you wanna meet to trade brackets? I'm only a few sections away from you

[whole horizon]

i thought you were going to N1

[vale ore]

Nvm I didn't consider that they might be going to the other show

[solemn peak]

Who's coming to N1?

[vale ore]

Me!

[junior pawn]

I ammm

[boreal obsidian]

Me!

[rare veldt]

surely ill grab a pair when official resale happens copium

[solemn peak]

Yaay

See you guys there

[prisma oracle]

Meee

[woven pulsar]

i saved my minimum wage payment for 2/3 months

[hazy karma]

Are there any unused codes out there so I could try to find tickets? I’d LOVE to surprise my wife with a trip to Lisbon!

[primal rivet]

tysm for the help <3

[primal rivet]

wow respect

[primal rivet]

yesss for sure! where are you?

[primal rivet]

oh shit lmao

[primal rivet]

ohhh you'll be close to me i think then

[primal rivet]

its annoying ngl skull

[prisma oracle]

Nice! Where are you going to seat?

[humble drum]

Piso 0 lateral no one?

Anyone going on strike tours?

[whole horizon]

i love getting these taylor ads

[humble drum]

I dont get these.

Why???

[whole horizon]

i rarely get them

[humble drum]

I never get them

I dont get nothing up there

[hard fiber]

oh i'm in sector 6!!

[hard fiber]

ikr

im just scared she'll sing my fav songs on n1 when im going on n2

😭

[humble drum]

What?

[primal rivet]

We'll be exchanging bracelets then

[primal rivet]

ISTG

[primal rivet]

Im piso 0

idk abt lateral

[hard fiber]

i just want to know if im alto or baixo

😭

[whole horizon]

what she means is she's scared of N1 getting her fav songs as suprise songs

[humble drum]

Oh i get it know

I love how we are mixing english with portuguese

[humble drum]

Im going n2 too

[hard fiber]

mas of course

😭

[solemn peak]

I may convince my parents to let me go to Lisbon to see Taylor and then go visit Spain afterwards

Cuz I've already been to Lisbon but I've never visited Spain

And I really want to

It might be the country I'll move to with my bf depending on how things in Argentina turn out to be like

[pulsar hull]

@ionic panther Ticket selling is not allowed in this server

[prisma oracle]

I’m in sector 5 too but piso 1

[humble drum]

Ahahaha

[whole horizon]

why does it say paramore and not taylor?

[pulsar hull]

they're the special guest

ig spotify just got confused

[whole horizon]

yeah ik

[humble drum]

I dont even know who the hell he is?

[pulsar hull]

wait you don't know Paramore?

[whole horizon]

you dont know paramore???

you gotta give them a listen

[pulsar hull]

specially if they're going to be the opener for your show

[humble drum]

Yea ik

[humble drum]

Man, i just listen to taylor, i think if i listen other things im betraying her.

[whole horizon]

I only listen to taylor too but ik paramore's songs

paramore made still into you, it's a really popular song

[humble drum]

still into you? dunno

[humble drum]

EXCITED BOUT OCTOBER 27

im sad cause the cd is only available in US

[primal rivet]

every day i pray to god that i got bancada piso 0 baixo seats, not alto

[primal rivet]

bRO PARAMORE IS LITERALLY MY 2ND FAVORITE ARTIST

IM SO HAPPY BC I LOVEEEE PARAMORE

[primal rivet]

Any update? Idk, how do we get to know? I really want baixo

Also, does anyone know what sagres piso means? Also my seats are 11-13, so is that an indicator of baixo/alto or something

[primal rivet]

io should be over all the butterfliiiesss im into youuu

[primal rivet]

See you!

[primal rivet]

See you there <3

[primal rivet]

YES YES YES YAYYAY

guys do yall think she might play castles crumbling with haley?

[whole horizon]

the regular cd is gonna be available here tho

[whole horizon]

maybe but if she does it could be in any european country, not just portugal

[vale ore]

Their lead singer was featured on Castles Crumbling and they were an inspiration for Taylor while she was making speak now in 2010

[humble drum]

oh ok

[primal rivet]

Maybe in all! Cz she played NBNC in all the shows haim was opening

[whole horizon]

true 👀

i hope NBNC stays on the setlist

[whole horizon]

nvm, tis the damn season is back

[primal rivet]

GUYS I THINK TALYOR BLOCKED ME ON INSTA 😭

[boreal obsidian]

Why ?

[humble drum]

What? Automatic right?

She wouldn't have lost her precious time doing that.

[primal rivet]

No nvm lol it was a false alarm

I can see her account just can’t dm her

How many friendship bracelets are yall making

[primal rivet]

Bro I bought lower bowl section 5 tickets for 181 euros now they’re selling for 1919 euros 💀 (I checked the other date)

[humble drum]

Not started yet

[humble drum]

That is "normal" its called especulação

Its been like that since i remember

[primal rivet]

Im starting after exams

[primal rivet]

oh what does that mean

[humble drum]

i mean, it always have been like this, you dont get the ticket but a person would seell to you for more 1000 than the ticket usually

[primal rivet]

Ah interesting

@humble drum where are you seated?

[humble drum]

piso 0 lateral

[primal rivet]

Ah we are close! Im bancada piso 0 too

[humble drum]

but lateral or not?

[red moth]

ME

[primal rivet]

No idea 💀 what does lateral mean

[humble drum]

Like sideways

@primal rivet

[humble drum]

Lets make a list of whos going

[red moth]

eu vou no 24 😦

[humble drum]

english pls

[red moth]

wait ur not portuguese

umm i said i was goin on the 24

[primal rivet]

ahhh idk its not on my tix

[humble drum]

Im portuguese, but i was told that we can only speak english on this server.

[red moth]

ummm k

[primal rivet]

yes please speak in english

Im getting a bit confused as an indian heh

[primal rivet]

yessthe 25th people!!!

whoever is going on the 25th lets make a group dm :D

[humble drum]

Yaaa

[whole horizon]

yessss

[solemn peak]

So I have a dillema

I may get a scholarship to study abroad

and if I do there may be rules that may not allow me to leave where I'll stay

so I have a feeling that I'll be selling my tickets perhaps

[red moth]

sell them to me

[humble drum]

For those who want sell or buy tickets

facebook is a great place

[whole horizon]

yeah and they're cheap too

[humble drum]

do you temu, is very popular this days, so much incredible things fan merch of taylor swift there

[humble drum]

but dangerous cause we only get the tickets in march right i think that is in march not sure

[whole horizon]

Yes! I love temu i got so much taylor merch from there

It's not official but its fine

i got 3 necklaces and lots of stickers

i can send a pic if you wanna see

[humble drum]

i dont care if is oficial or not

merch oficial of taylor is a pice of sh*** tbh

[humble drum]

see? so good

[whole horizon]

yeah the quality is pretty bad for the price

[red moth]

HELP

[south fox]

Available for sale

[whole horizon]

Is it official and how much?

also is it used?

[humble drum]

Whats the big deal

[south fox]

Yes it is from the official website. It’s brand new, very affordable!

[rare veldt]

anyone received their vip bundle yet? or know when they are sent?

[boreal obsidian]

i think they come later

i dont have a vip ticket for lisbon tho

[humble drum]

i think she is not in this server anymore

50 members in this channel

[whole horizon]

Is anyone else going to see the eras movie next month?

[subtle zinc]

In what cinemas is the show playing??

In portugal

[whole horizon]

NOS

[shut peak]

ME

[humble drum]

I just ran over here to talk bout that

[humble drum]

Just that one?

[whole horizon]

im not sure

[shut peak]

UCI and Cinema City as well

[primal rivet]

Im in india, its coming here november 3rd, so a bit late

[humble drum]

I dont even know where that is, my city ONLY has Cineplace

[shut peak]

i was today's years old when i discovered that cineplace existed

[humble drum]

Sad...

You re going on 25 as well?

What seat?

[shut peak]

yeah, Piso 0 Sector 7 Fila J

and you?

[primal rivet]

I’m PIso 0too

[humble drum]

Piso 0 Sector 30 Fila L

[humble drum]

So lucky you have nos cinemas 😦

[whole horizon]

I dont have any cinemas near me so im gonna travel 100km to watch the movie

[south wharf]

real

[humble drum]

I saw that porto has, but is still far from me so im not sure if braga has

Anyone knows if braga has the movie?

[cerulean pelican]

anyone going to front standing left?

[cedar cradle]

I checked Cinema NOS app and there is one in Braga parque

I went to watch it yesterday in Lisbon and it was an amazing experience like a real concert

most of us were singing for hours

[solemn peak]

Hey guys, it seems like I will most probably will not be able to attend the May 24th concert

I was going to send my tickets for resale on the See Tickets platform but they only allow me to use a UK/EU debit card to get the money

so idk what to do

Would I get in trouble if I sell my tickets in a local resale?

Because I'm far away from Europe lmao

I could only ask for distant relatives to help me

[whole horizon]

same but i watched it in faro

i sang for 3 hours straight

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damn I wish to find someone in lisbon to go with me rewatch it, I was alone last time xD and I am too introverted to join other people, if there is anyone here who wants to go again and watch it let me know!

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do they give you the option to put a new card?

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Ahahha funny i was watching the film while you sent the message, was amazing the experience

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nice to know did you all sing there?

[solemn peak]

I managed to sell the tickets with some help of family friends

so it's all good now

but yeah I won't be going to the eras tour anymore

but that's ok

Studying is my priority

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nice to know

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best of luck!

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Guys do you know if reselling on see tickets will be disabled later or not? I still want to hold on to my tickets until I move from Portugal

[woven pulsar]

how long before do you all plan on going to the venue? i got the “front row” ticket so idk if it really matters if i go very early

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noo :(, i went to session of 1 pm and it was like 5 people in there including me, i wanted to sing, but nobody was singing, and i thought maybe someone needs to "break the ice", but till the end nobody sang.

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its really ok? you were so happy i remember

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ugh I wish I was there xD

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we need to meet, i will go on 25 as well

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sadly I dont think I can stay in Portugal longer, couldnt get residence so the max I can stay is until the end of the year

[solemn peak]

yeah I am ok with that

taylor is not going away anytime soon lol

I can get another chance to see her again one day

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i hope, i want to see her again though

[tired halo]

Hi guys, I just joined. I don't know if this is the place to talk about tickets. I didn't get the code and I couldn't buy tickets... do you know anyone who sells them?

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I hope so to, good luck in what you're doing

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well it's not a place for selling