#Eras Tour Spoiler-Free Discussion

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blissful juniper
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There’s too many fans to have everyone go. She was just charting like crazy. It’s super shitty for fans but I feel like that’s a big part of this. The amount of people you are fighting for those seats

winged pewter
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okay but she could have honored loverfest verified fans

fiery kettle
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Americans will know what its like to be an international fan

blissful juniper
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Yeah

blissful juniper
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Agreed

storm nebula
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idk what you want me to ask him?

gray phoenix
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Hello

fiery kettle
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You know what international fans do when they couldnt get tickets to a Tay concert?

winged pewter
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cry

blissful juniper
winged pewter
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and move on

dim trout
fiery kettle
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I'll spoiler it in case you want to guess: ||we move on with our fucking lives||

jolly plank
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same catomg

winged pewter
dim trout
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first priority my ass

blissful juniper
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I was 25,000 in line in LA

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That was fun

dim trout
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Idk how much I was but I didn’t want to touch ANYTHING

gray phoenix
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And not tickets

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That’s the way it seemed

dim trout
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I know I was far back tho since I waited over 7 hours

gray phoenix
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Those boosts weren’t for tickets

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They were for presale

blissful juniper
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Yeah

dim trout
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well some people

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not all

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Idk

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It was messy

storm nebula
gray phoenix
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Still in shock I got tickets

dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
dim trout
winged pewter
blissful juniper
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Well she’s going to come to Toronto and me and my besties are gonna get VIP tickets

dim trout
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IM SO LUCKY

gray phoenix
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Also the people saying because it was so unfair they should cancel all the tickets

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That would make it worse

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Like

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😭

blissful juniper
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Yeah that’s so stupid

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They would not do that

gray phoenix
storm nebula
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i asked him, idk when he'll respond

jolly plank
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i didn’t get tickets but that doesn’t even make sense??

gray phoenix
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Yeah

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See

winged pewter
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i mean. honestly if there was a reason on the back end that fucked up the process, then yeah its unfair because the system was wrong. but otherwise nah

gray phoenix
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I saw people say that

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And I was baffkes

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Baffled

dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
viral storm
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I stand by the fact they gave way too many people verified fan- idk maybe no ticketmaster account created after the tour was announced should have gotten verified fan

winged pewter
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like the theory i saw where presale queue order was actually flipped from what it shouldve been, allowing resellers easier access

gray phoenix
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Anyone here also going to Denver ??

umbral plinth
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i’d honestly cry if they cancelled all of them

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not that i think they will

blissful juniper
dim trout
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lmao 2020 😭

winged pewter
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6 tickets. grats

dim trout
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I have 2

viral storm
gray phoenix
blissful juniper
winged pewter
dim trout
gray phoenix
dim trout
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ooh

cold loom
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My eyes are bloodshot from not sleeping the past few days trying to get tickets

winged pewter
dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
dim trout
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MY OPENER

gray phoenix
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My opener is Muna and Gracie

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I love Muna

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And Gracie

dim trout
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I have girl in red and Gracie

blissful juniper
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Gayle and HIAM

dim trout
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gayle.

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ok

cold loom
gray phoenix
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That would be so fun

viral storm
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I have Girl in Red and Owenn- I have to learn some Owenn songs before tour

dim trout
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I will never shut up about my show

blissful juniper
storm nebula
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i got nobody i'm really excited about it !

gray phoenix
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Honestly I’ve heard one lia kate song and I liked I think

dim trout
gray phoenix
dim trout
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where

viral storm
dim trout
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ooh ok

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I GUESS IM JUST DIFFICULT DIFFICULT

viral storm
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I get to look at the back of Tay’s head from the nosebleeds unless TN pitties me and moves me

swift turretBOT
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Random Song

You should listen to Speak Now from Speak Now.

dim trout
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ok ok hold on

swift turretBOT
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Random Song

You should listen to Superstar from Fearless (Taylor's Version).

dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
weak nest
dim trout
spring stratus
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I think like 70% of us don’t have any lol

dim trout
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Yeah true I got VERY lucky

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Lowerbowl aisle seats

viral storm
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I am going to dress as Speak Now era- have something silly planned for a costume.

gray phoenix
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!fm

raven heartBOT
gray phoenix
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Update

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Pleas

dim trout
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I think I might go as rep

gray phoenix
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😭

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Oh im@going as debut since I started listening at debut

dim trout
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gaslighting myself that Taylor will see me all the way from 122

restive bolt
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tour

dim trout
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when

gray phoenix
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Wait

dim trout
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Floor?

gray phoenix
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Yes

viral storm
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Nice

dim trout
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give

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what show

gray phoenix
jagged thicket
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I would offer my pinky for a floor seat

dim trout
viral storm
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Did you get them for a good price?

gray phoenix
dim trout
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vip or no

gray phoenix
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Yes

dim trout
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what package

buoyant wedge
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stop crycat

gray phoenix
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It’s been a long time cominf

dim trout
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oh

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ROW 1

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WHAT

jagged thicket
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Legend

viral storm
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Tell Taylor we said hi

dim trout
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IM STEALING YOUR TICKETS

winged pewter
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can you beat my head in with that image

sharp latch
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wait guys so are all tickets gone or is it just tickets from ticket master?

raven heartBOT
buoyant wedge
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im going to jump out my window

winged pewter
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bye bye

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resale only

gray phoenix
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I knew resale was gonna be bad

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But this is

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😭

timid knoll
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Poor babes

gray phoenix
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Also Beyoncé resale gonna be crazy too

rancid ingot
gray phoenix
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What’s a rule

dim trout
sharp latch
dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
floral ermine
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my tickets have a side view

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which is ok

jagged thicket
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lemme find where i’m sitting

floral ermine
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most concerts ive been to have been side view

dim trout
jagged thicket
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the way i kinda scored considering this was at like 5 pm

gray phoenix
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For rep I had third row and then at 1989 it was nosebleeds

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Rep was so fun

dim trout
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my view

floral ermine
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i might try for floor on day of

sharp latch
viral storm
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Your view should be pretty good when she’s at the end of the stage

dim trout
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lol

floral ermine
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should i dress up as someone

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i look like joe

dim trout
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I’m still in shock that TM cancelled general sale

winged pewter
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dress up as me

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so i can pretend to be there

floral ermine
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or i could dress up as a mirrorball

dim trout
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like they cancelled it all together not even postpone

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like what

jagged thicket
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my view except i’m gonna be a lot lower down

timid knoll
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What the haybale

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So are all the tickets gone

dim trout
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yeah

timid knoll
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That’s what I was worried about that’s why I just took what I got

winged pewter
floral ermine
timid knoll
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After watching Philly sell out before my eyes

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I was like I’m takin these

storm nebula
dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
dim trout
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taste

storm nebula
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that's a really good album

dim trout
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true

timid knoll
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This song is not about Joshua basset

dim trout
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Nonsense

floral ermine
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thats my view

dim trout
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damn

floral ermine
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stage will be closer to me

timid knoll
timid knoll
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Pretty much

floral ermine
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they were fine

dim trout
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no a laggy shitty Insta livestream will be peoples view 🥰

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!fm

raven heartBOT
timid knoll
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Taylor hehehe

floral ermine
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i simply do not care she will hear my screams

timid knoll
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It was Mother’s Day

dim trout
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only real swifties why know I’m listening to Tim McGraw

timid knoll
dim trout
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my mom almost went to 1989 world tour but she said they sold out too fast

floral ermine
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because taylor is featured on that track

dim trout
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yes

timid knoll
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I love that song

viral storm
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I can’t live without ya I can’t live with out ya baby

timid knoll
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Hits deep honestly

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I used to sing that growing up

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Like obsessively

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And I was also a fan of Tim McGraw and at the time our dogs name was McGraw

dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
dim trout
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major slay

floral ermine
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i want her to perform better man

dim trout
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Ticketmaster after charging $150 of fees

dim trout
floral ermine
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so if we got better man tv.. are we getting TIWYCF tv?

opal zenith
jagged thicket
viscid veldt
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Has Ticketmaster posted any additional information besides their cryptic tweet?

storm nebula
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no

opal zenith
jagged thicket
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well

floral ermine
jagged thicket
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it was 289 before ticketmasters outrageous fees

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the fees brought it up to 375 😭

opal zenith
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It's ok, my tickets is the same price

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Except mine is at 200 level 😭

jagged thicket
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i mean i was like super lucky

floral ermine
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my tickets are at the 400 level androidcrying

jagged thicket
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i feel like i won the lottery w those seats especially since it was at like 5:30 pm

opal zenith
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Which stadium?

jagged thicket
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us bank

dim trout
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same

opal zenith
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Ahhh I see I'm at lumen

floral ermine
dim trout
opal zenith
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I contemplated getting around that area but I also didn't wanna be too far from cat walk

dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
viscid veldt
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Yeah, I was just so mad that I was in the queue for the Capital One sale and after 2 hours not a single ticket was there. like what..? I joined the queue right at 2 PM...

dim trout
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SSHSSS

floral ermine
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i dont like their logo

jagged thicket
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us bank isn’t good for concerts

floral ermine
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and they have a shitty logo

jagged thicket
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but it’s the biggest stadium

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in mn

floral ermine
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thats worse

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ew

dim trout
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I saw some TikToks of people not getting their Tickets due to Chase bank declining their card

dim trout
opal zenith
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Oof

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My bank definitely alerted me when I bought my tickets

dim trout
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I had to do a text verification with my bank to even complete my purchase

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!fm

raven heartBOT
opal zenith
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They wouldn't let me continue until I did it

dim trout
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I was so stressed during picking my seats

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scariest thing I’ve ever done

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but

opal zenith
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Oh my god me too, I didn't have time at all

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The good seats were gone by the second, the ones I chose gone the moment I clicked them

dim trout
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I got lowerbowl aisle seats so waiting 7.5 hours and being barely able to breathe during picking my seats was worth it I guess

opal zenith
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100 levels were all gone for me 😭

dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
jagged thicket
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no bc i saw those 4 seats pop up cuz i they left someone’s cart i’ve never clicked anything so fast i just know it was like a 1 in 500 chance knowing how many ppl were on at the same time as me

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(i’m going w friends)

opal zenith
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Its my first time so I didn't know you can switch to map

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I've been just doing the side bar stuff with the best seat options

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Regret 😭

dim trout
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you can but I hate doing map, I had to do list to get my lowerbowl tickets

jagged thicket
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target center doesn’t use ticketmaster which is so slay

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u can buy them off ticketmaster

dim trout
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everytime I did map I couldn’t get any

jagged thicket
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but it’s actually a third party site technically

opal zenith
dim trout
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I like Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul

jagged thicket
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i saw ari there

dim trout
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jealous

jagged thicket
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eh

opal zenith
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How much were her tickets

jagged thicket
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she was like an hour late

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i don’t remember

dim trout
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dang

opal zenith
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😬

jagged thicket
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the stage was also a toilet bowl

dim trout
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what

jagged thicket
dim trout
opal zenith
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Has taylor been late for her concerts? I know my friend went to post Malone's recently and he was an hour late too

opal zenith
jagged thicket
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i doubt she would be late

dim trout
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I’ve heard of The Weeknd being late

opal zenith
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I heard about his big ass moon obstructing the view

viscid veldt
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At the reputation tour she wasn't late when I went, there were openers though.

sharp latch
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fuck ticketmaster

jagged thicket
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can’t believe there was a point i was more excited ab camilla than charli…

viscid veldt
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I genuinely hope that the investigation into them gets them broken up and that for the next tour (if there is one) Taylor ditches them.

grave lake
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The eras openers are all amazing though like yeah we meme know Gayle but she'll probably be at least a fun meme

opal zenith
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Monopolies are hard to break

jagged thicket
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monopolies are hard to break

grave lake
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And Owenn is unknown but who knows maybe he's a slay!

jagged thicket
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they tried it w facebook and they just had to rebrand and got off w a slap on the wrist

opal zenith
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I know I'm like basic for saying this but I thought it's be Olivia or Conan

viscid veldt
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Also, how did they even "verify" a fan? Like, for reputation you actually did steps to "prove" that you were a fan...

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Ticketmaster is all cloak and daggers when it comes to how half of their systems work

grave lake
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Legit I've seen all of these openers live outside of Gracie/GAYLE/Owenn like I can help verify how good they are if needed 😂

opal zenith
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I got Haim and Gracie

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So I'm happy 😊

grave lake
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haim is so much fun live

opal zenith
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Can't wait

jagged thicket
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i’m probably going to get my merch when she’s performing her earlier eras i know i’ll probably get dog piled on for saying that

raven heartBOT
grave lake
dim trout
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who’s that

grave lake
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HAIM

opal zenith
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Is that Haim?

dim trout
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omg

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jealous

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!give all @grave lake

raven heartBOT
grave lake
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legit if yall needed openers advice I can help with that 😂

dim trout
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how good is girl in red

opal zenith
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I need all the advices since it's my first big concert 😭

jagged thicket
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i’m not a fan personally

jagged thicket
opal zenith
jagged thicket
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that’s all my advice

grave lake
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Girl in red was one of my favorite shows i saw this year

opal zenith
jagged thicket
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well

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if ur getting merch

dim trout
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I am

opal zenith
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What are the merch there usually? Concert specific or like the ones on her site

jagged thicket
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concerts are fun except for the fact a lot of venues ban reusable water bottles and force u to buy $5 bottles of dasani

opal zenith
grave lake
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When i get home I'll try to explain more 😂

dim trout
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Maybe some from her site

jagged thicket
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on ur venues website

grave lake
opal zenith
dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
opal zenith
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From your experience are seated fans usually seated

dim trout
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no

opal zenith
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Like on 100-200 levels

jagged thicket
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No

dim trout
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No

opal zenith
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Aw man 😭

dim trout
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Why

opal zenith
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I was hoping I don't have to stand

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Weak legs

dim trout
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you don’t have to

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you can still hear it

opal zenith
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If everyone stands the whole time I feel like I have to BC I wanna see haha

jagged thicket
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at least us bank has water fountains so u can buy one bottle and refill it

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i mean it might be scary to jump around 😭

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I'm scared of where my seats are, never sat nose bleeds lol

opal zenith
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I'm afraid I'll go feral at the hook of cruel summer and out of the woods if she performs them

jagged thicket
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idk like i got nosebleeders for rep tour and i was too scared to stand

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it was very steep

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Yeah you could just tumble all the way down lol

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yep

opal zenith
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Oh my god

jagged thicket
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Same

dim trout
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lmao

jagged thicket
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Maybe taylor will come to save you

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at us bank you’d die i fear

dim trout
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eh what a shame :/

opal zenith
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Do you think mid bowl 200 I can still see her? Or it's rough

dim trout
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damn

jagged thicket
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Mid bowl will be good

opal zenith
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That's the kinda energy that TN is looking for

jagged thicket
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It helps they have huge screens too

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Most of the time

dim trout
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!fm

raven heartBOT
dim trout
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Track 13 red tv

opal zenith
jagged thicket
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Then you know the plan....tumbleweed

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I'm jk

opal zenith
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Yeah neither of my seats are super close but I'm lucky to get even relatively close ones 😬

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I got two dates two for my pair and two for my friends

dim trout
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HUH

opal zenith
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The ones for me is like 700 dollars altogether fee and stuff

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700 for two tickets

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For hers it was like 500-600 for two

viscid veldt
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Well, best of luck to everyone still trying to get tickets. I'm probably going to try one more time once the dust settles and TM figures out what is happening with the rest of the tickets, otherwise I'll just YOLO it until it gets closer to the event 😂

I really do hope that Taylor or at the very least Taylor's team speaks out about this clown fiesta. 🤡

winged pewter
winged pewter
jagged thicket
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like…

viscid veldt
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idk, I was under the impression that they were only selling a select percentage of them during the presale

grave lake
heady chasm
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anyone know when ticketmaster will have reselling

viscid veldt
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If they did have every ticket available during the presale that's a YIKES.

buoyant wedge
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ya\

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thats what ive been seeing

jagged thicket
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at least it looked like it on the map

viscid veldt
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Yeah, I'm just not entirely sure - the only number I've heard was 2 million tickets.

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Which is pretty concerning since the reputation tour was 2.8 million 😬

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I still just think that the "verified fan" system is a major joke, like what are they even doing to "verify" fans?

winged pewter
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how is your coach getting tickets?

viscid veldt
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Previously it was linked to merch purchases, album purchases, etc.

winged pewter
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yeah it was cancelled

viscid veldt
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Well, yikes. There's no way I'm paying for scalper tickets just to be in the nosebleed seats for the original price of better seats 🤣

alpine sleet
winged pewter
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thats highway robbery

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my venue had $49

snow cairn
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There were $49 nosebleeds when I bought my tickets

opal zenith
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I bought pre sale CD but didn't get a code for boost :((

snow cairn
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And later that evening when I checked again, though there were less

snow cairn
opal zenith
timid knoll
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I didn’t get a “boost” ppl online were acting as if all of their boost should’ve boosted them in line & it’s like no the boost got u the pre sale code and boosted u in priority for that at least from what I know

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I never got an email

jagged thicket
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who in the right mind would be behind the stage 😭

timid knoll
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But I got a presale code

jagged thicket
timid knoll
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Like u know to go to the sides

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Then if ur in the back u see her side

winged pewter
opal zenith
spare gust
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i think it was just randomized

bold patio
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i thought buying merch boosted your chances tho?

opal zenith
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I bought the CD from her site and didn't get boost

bold patio
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oh, ok, interesting to know

opal zenith
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I emailed them about it and they said it's for UK only or something? Didn't make any sense BC the concert isn't even international yet

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I do know people signed up for code in UK site

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But it just didn't make sense to me for US tours

bold patio
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thats so weird

icy sierra
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wait

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public sale was cancelled??

bold patio
crystal otter
bold patio
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cause the remaining of the inventory of the tickets being low i think?

opal zenith
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Like what does that mean

icy sierra
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that is so annoying

bold patio
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i honestly didn't know you could miss tickets? like i didn't know you could actually sell too much of it?

winged pewter
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the pre-order boost for the UK is for UK tickets in the future

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it was solely a UK store offer

opal zenith
icy sierra
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im so glad i payed for the insurance on my tickets bc i would be hella pissed if my tickets were given away and i wasnt refunded 🧍‍♀️

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i really hope it gets sorted out

crystal otter
icy sierra
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bc ik they were supposed to have tickets reserved for general sale

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so like where did those tickets go????

winged pewter
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i ate them

buoyant wedge
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ya but they fucked up and put ALL tickets available for the presale

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so bots and resellers snatched them up

icy sierra
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that’s terrible

crystal otter
bold patio
buoyant wedge
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i mean just look at the amount available on stubhub?

winged pewter
buoyant wedge
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yea. and thats also assuming ALL those ppl get multiple tickets

winged pewter
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yeaaaah

bold patio
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i wonder why they gave that much presale code if it ended to be too much. they definitly wanted money, but idk, it feels weird

buoyant wedge
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because TM is run by greedy morons?

winged pewter
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they wanted panic buying so people would spend without thinking

bold patio
bold patio
astral hare
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it's not solely because they gave out too many presale codes

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they said there were 15m people logged on and trying to get in queue and stuff

buoyant wedge
icy sierra
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they gave 1.5 mil people presale codes

winged pewter
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14m people on the ticketmaster website, not in queue

crystal otter
fiery kettle
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How many tickets could you buy per person

icy sierra
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out of 3.5 mil who registered

astral hare
winged pewter
crystal otter
bold patio
fiery kettle
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Well there you go lmao

astral hare
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but for those who were in queue it doesn't help that you can get in queue, and only after you get to the end of queue it'd check if your account was tied to a presale code or not

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puts more load on their systems just keeping people in queue

fiery kettle
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With 3 million tickets in total, you need 500k maxing out to hit that limit

buoyant wedge
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i was in queue for the capital one sale and it kicked us out cause there were no more tickets

fiery kettle
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And with 1.5 million codes, that's more than enough to exhaust your entire supply on the presale

grave lake
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@fiery kettle it gets even funnier

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the verified fan sale: codes only let you buy 6 period

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the cap one sale: 6 per transaction

viscid veldt
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Letting people buy 6 tickets was the worst decision I think I had ever heard of

quaint brook
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What night? I’m there the Friday

winged pewter
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ticketmaster should only allow 1 transaction per presale period

fiery kettle
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Wait so Captial One card holders were just maxing out their credit buying half a dozen at the same time?

buoyant wedge
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not for them? like obviously youre gonna make a ton of money if people are buying 6 per session

fiery kettle
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lmaooo

icy sierra
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i wonder what percentage of taylor swift fans were actually able to purchase tickets

viscid veldt
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Not only that, but then there were people buying tickets for multiple shows

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Like that's ridiculous

fiery kettle
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Yeah no fucking wonder the entire supply was Nicolas Cage Gone in 60 Seconds

grave lake
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i mean that's not as big of a problem as the scalpers

icy sierra
winged pewter
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me, with no shows. 🙂

bold patio
buoyant wedge
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is it weird that im like mega bummed lol

viscid veldt
winged pewter
viscid veldt
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6 per transaction is a lot of tickets

astral hare
icy sierra
#

how is it that ticket master is like

buoyant wedge
#

like its just a concert there will be many more

grave lake
#

i mean yeah but in a lot of cases it could be people buying for a group of 6

icy sierra
#

one of the biggest ticket distributors

astral hare
#

my mom was looking forward to having any chance of getting tickets tomorrow for general sale so she is upset

buoyant wedge
#

i was just so hype bingus_cry

grave lake
#

here's what i do not understand

fiery kettle
#

Mikeey what's your estimate on how much of the 3 million tickets are now in scalpers' hands

icy sierra
#

but cant fend off scalpers and bots

viscid veldt
#

Yeah, I get that - it's a double-edged sword.

fiery kettle
#

Serious

grave lake
#

gotta be something nuts

fiery kettle
#

10%? 20%? 30%?

grave lake
#

imma say out of 3 mil

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at least a mil are on resale

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maybe less

#

half a mil

fiery kettle
#

So like 15%

grave lake
#

sure

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it's gotta be something nuts

winged pewter
quaint brook
grave lake
#

oh yeah lemme finish what i was saying

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here's what i don't get

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why didn't they just do a VF for cap one holders too

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like that is a thing for amex

fiery kettle
#

I guess we'll never know

grave lake
#

and then give them the same rules as normal VF so like 6 per code period

quaint brook
#

Where I ended up. Spending way more than I was planning to.

winged pewter
#

how else will they make money

viscid veldt
#

Okay, also during the capital one presale why could you join the queue before verifying that you have a Capital One card?

buoyant wedge
#

right!!

grave lake
#

cause TM's system is stupid

buoyant wedge
#

i hate them so fking much

viscid veldt
#

There must have been so many people mucking up the works

bold patio
grave lake
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which is why i don't get why they didn't do a seperate VF for cap one holders

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paramore just did it with amex

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harry did it with his shows

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the tech is there

viscid veldt
#

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think it's also because Amex is TM's normal partner, so they were just wanting to F over Capital One and tarnish their brands since they're only VISA and MasterCard

winged pewter
grave lake
#

nahhhhhhhhhhhh they wouldn't do shit like that

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TM will just take money whenever they can

glad pond
#

Ticketmaster wanted bigger profit, they knew what they r doing

viscid veldt
#

Also, they really needed to do something like 25% are available for VF 25% for CO and 50% for general

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just anything but what they did

grave lake
#

the thing is do we know how much was sold during both sales

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like

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percent of stadiums wise

viscid veldt
#

It sounds like all tickets were up for grabs

buoyant wedge
#

yes

grave lake
#

see that is not the first time stuff sold out on presale

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it happened earlier this year with bts and their vegas like four shows

viscid veldt
#

Hard to say

grave lake
#

they had general sale

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verified fan

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and then they had first a membership sale

buoyant wedge
#

fuckin bullshit

grave lake
#

and it sold out in that first sale

viscid veldt
#

All I know is Ticketmaster's tweets seem to be more cryptic than some of Taylor's Easter eggs.

grave lake
#

so people who got picked for verified fan never even had a CHANCE

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like imagine that shit

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you get picked for VF for BTS which is basically like getting the fucking wonka golden ticket

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and then boom it doesn't even happen

winged pewter
#

also the way that taylornation only retweeted it, said nothing else, and taylor has been silent too.....whats going on

north geyser
#

i know we arent buying or selling tikctes on here but does anyone know where to buy tickets at all atp?

buoyant wedge
#

i doubt taylor can say anything

fiery kettle
#

heres my hot take

buoyant wedge
#

if anything she'll put out a general "thanks for all ur support, sorry it sold out so fast"

winged pewter
#

well i mean silence just period. not even anything, and the no context rt from tn

viscid veldt
#

I peeked at stubhub out of desperation, people are crazy to think that anyone would pay that markup.

grave lake
#

rn your only options would be maybe looking at trust worthy twitters but outside of that there's nothing really

fiery kettle
#

Hear me out

buoyant wedge
fiery kettle
#

You shouldn't be able to buy tour tickets online

grave lake
#

bianca said we need to reject mobile tickets

viscid veldt
fiery kettle
#

Let's go back to the days of camping outside the venue

grave lake
#

embrace tradition

north geyser
fiery kettle
#

Line up for days to buy tickets

winged pewter
#

Sorry, I have to work

spare gust
#

i have a job LOL

grave lake
buoyant wedge
grave lake
#

if you are patient enough you can either

fiery kettle
#

Go back to the Analog Way

grave lake
#

wait until week of or hell day of the show

viscid veldt
#

I honestly would've preferred a lottery system at this point LOL

grave lake
#

and see if scalpers drop in price

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or see if TM puts out new tickets

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cause it does happen

winged pewter
grave lake
#

even with the hardest shows it happens

buoyant wedge
#

scalp prices will drop, demand is just so crazy rn

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people will move on and the value will go down

grave lake
#

@fiery kettle have you heard about how like south america is with like lining up for shows early

alpine sleet
#

54 in LA

fiery kettle
#

How

viscid veldt
#

Yeah, I hope it blows over and the real fans can get some reasonably priced tickets

grave lake
#

so harry styles is there i think this month or next month

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and people been lined up for him

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FOR MONTHS

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IT'S APPARENTLY THE CULTURE DOWN THERE

fiery kettle
#

crazy

winged pewter
#

bruh

buoyant wedge
#

no ty

grave lake
#

THEY LINE UP FOR MONTHS FOR THE SHOW 😭

winged pewter
#

i could not afford that

viscid veldt
#

I had it happen with the reputation tour, once it got closer ticket prices went notstonks

winged pewter
#

nothing is worth that to me

grave lake
#

not even for tickets just to be able to have a spot

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apparently they take turns and go to work etc

alpine sleet
#

For barricades?

spare gust
#

theres no way in hell id even wait in line for a full 24 hrs 💀

alpine sleet
#

💀💀💀

fiery kettle
#

Okay wait Mikey

grave lake
winged pewter
#

im too old to wait in line for an hour

fiery kettle
#

THats atually pretty clever

alpine sleet
fiery kettle
#

I like this

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Let's do this

grave lake
#

bianca no

buoyant wedge
#

no

fiery kettle
#

Go back to the analog way

grave lake
#

dont give the americans ideas

winged pewter
#

please no

buoyant wedge
#

i have to work bestie

winged pewter
#

i have to feed myself

fiery kettle
#

Presale Verified Fan blah blah blah

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its all bullshit

alpine sleet
#

There’s no even any pit

fiery kettle
#

Go to the fucking venue and buy it yourself

alpine sleet
#

Slay ig

fiery kettle
#

First 60,000 people to get it get it

spare gust
#

why was taylors picture taken off my stub hub 💀 now its just a generic pic of a crowd

fiery kettle
#

I'll go all the way too and its 1 ticket per person

viscid veldt
#

Honestly, if they moved away from digital tickets they could eliminate most of the scalping

fiery kettle
#

When you've made your purchase, you will be escorted out by security

viscid veldt
#

and cut out the monstrosity that is TM

fiery kettle
#

Or shot

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And your ticket added back into the pool

viscid veldt
#

They need those machines that verify your ID like at airport security 🤣

fiery kettle
#

I'm surprised they havet done a lottery system yet

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It'd be so fucking easy and profitable to do a lottery system

grave lake
#

well that's how VF is basically picked

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it's a lottery if you get picked or waitlisted

winged pewter
#

id like to volunteer to be shot

viscid veldt
#

The main thing is they need to weed out non-fans, but the question is how and I don't think ticketmaster cares to do anything about it.

fiery kettle
#

Why not just go all the way

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$1000 lottery ticket, the prizes are either a ticket or $1000

winged pewter
fiery kettle
#

In fact they can even bullshit it and say "$1000 lottery ticket + fees and the prizes are either refunding the lottery ticket or a concert ticket"

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ANd the refund has fees

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Boom you gain a profit on the losers too

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It's bullshit but it'd be better than this shit

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Hire me, Ticketmaster

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I can be unethical too

winged pewter
#

bianca making my blood pressure rise

buoyant wedge
quaint brook
#

I feel certain that Taylor is upset about us being upset and about some of the hatred being thrown her way. But for whatever reason, she is unable to comment right now. I don’t know if there is a legal reason behind that or PR or what. But I’m still rooting for her.

viral storm
#

They could have just given codes to Taylor Nation email recipients or people who have merch store accounts

grave lake
#

honestly though i don't know what she can even really say

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like unless she's gonna take off all resale tickets and put em back into the free market

#

what can you really do

viral storm
grave lake
#

like if you wanna be mad at the forced vips

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and the high prices

quaint brook
#

Right. I think I’m just reaching my limit on supposed fans hating on her.

jagged thicket
#

GIVE EVERYONE VIP!

grave lake
#

and the dynamic pricing (which i still don't know if it was for sure on)

#

go ahead but like

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everything else is not on her

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like besties she isdoing 52 shows

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in just the us

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SHE DID 53 TOTAL FOR ALL OF REP

jagged thicket
#

idk i’m like

#

sick of people treating this shit so unbelievably seriously, if you are able to buy concert tickets in the first place (even if you didn’t) you’re extremely privileged

grave lake
#

people are apparently taking their vinyls and apparently burning them? or some shit in anger

#

like bro come on

jagged thicket
#

taylor doesn’t care she already got ur money like 😭

fiery kettle
#

Mikeey what do you think

grave lake
#

as the resident concert guy?

fiery kettle
#

Just put everyone in a lottery and charge for all the transaction fees

grave lake
#

bianca

grave lake
#

stop trying to turn this into broadway

fiery kettle
#

Okay so you'd rather keep the system you're in now?

#

No analog lines AND no lotteries? Y'all're just spoiled smh

winged pewter
#

i vote rep presale system

quaint brook
#

Yes. Except now this time fucked up my record and this tour will be not tied to my TN account.

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Because my login gave me all the goddamn errors. It was a nightmare sequence.

#

I seriously couldn’t have designed it better if I was Michael from the good place

#

Oh you think you’re through the queue?

Oh those are the tickets you want?? Or these? How about these?

ERRORERRORERROR
TM:

viscid veldt
#

Yeah, I think my only frustrations with Taylor is that she partnered with the awful corporation that is Ticketmaster, but it's not like there's any other great choices with their monopoly.

grave lake
#

yeah every stadium uses TM

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except for dallas / glendale on seatgeek

spare gust
#

There aren’t any other choices yea

viscid veldt
#

Yeah, that's the thing, so I don't blame her for going with Ticketmaster, but like at the same time I think she would have enough leverage to change the industry in some way

viral storm
#

I just want to know how supposedly 14 million people were in the presale queue if they only sent out like 1.5 million codes. And why did they send out 1.5 million codes where everyone could buy up to 6 tickets if there were only like 4 million seats total for the US 🫠

viscid veldt
#

Just like the whole spotify/apple music thing

winged pewter
#

14m werent in the queue

spare gust
#

Ticketmaster is just so big and if she publicly went against them she’d be screwed with getting arenas. Spotify worked bc she could go to apple

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There’s no major competition for Ticketmaster

viral storm
#

Oh so it was just 14 million people trying to get into the queue?

winged pewter
#

yeah 14m on the website

viscid veldt
#

Yeah, very true. She just needs to start her own Ticket company 😂

#

TaylorTix

winged pewter
#

SwiftTix

grave lake
#

hell naw i wouldn't trust that at all

#

yall saw how long it took for shit to leave ferndale??????

#

you trust the same people to sell tickets????

viscid veldt
#

Is that where her merch comes from? 💀

grave lake
#

wait do you not know the whole thing with her merch?

viral storm
#

Maybe Tay should preform in Ferndale and we can all just grab our merch while we are there.

grave lake
#

@viscid veldt one of the big things with midnights stuff like the signed cds and vinyl was people got their shipping labels

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but they were NOT moving

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and they were stuck in her shipping warehouse

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in ferndale michigan

viscid veldt
#

YIKES

grave lake
#

like just not moving

#

for some people it took forever for it to actually start moving and ship ou t

viscid veldt
#

Yeah, I remember ordering a glass from the generations collection -- I ordered it the day it released in the store and didn't get it until january

#

like it was a 2+ month wait

#

good thing it wasn't a christmas gift LOL

viral storm
#

What do you guys think? 100% chance we will get a Eras tour movie on Disney+ as the third part of her deal with Disney+?

fiery kettle
#

There will definitely be a movie

viscid veldt
#

Wait, she did something with Disney+?

#

I haven't logged into that

fiery kettle
#

And it's a bidding war among the streaming services

fiery kettle
grave lake
#

eras tour movie is gonna go to

#

checks notes

winged pewter
grave lake
#

quibi?????

viral storm
fiery kettle
#

Crunchyroll lmao

grave lake
#

didnt disney+ just get the rights to bleach

fiery kettle
#

They did

#

Also Crunchyroll was bought by Sony a year or so ago

grave lake
#

also i just opened up #1043015562135089204 so if anyone has maybe questions about their venue or seats etc bring it on over

timid knoll
#

How is there people saying there’s going to be some lawsuit like how

fiery kettle
#

Class action against Ticketmaster if I had to guess

viral storm
#

If I remember correctly she had 1 more thing to do with Disney+ as they had a 3 item contract

timid knoll
#

People who didn’t get tickets lost time but not money or anything like what are we gunna say

winged pewter
#

some people lost money

#

some people literally took off work

viscid veldt
#

I know Ticketmaster is getting investigated over anti-trust allegations

winged pewter
#

^

viscid veldt
#

Not sure about a lawsuit though think

timid knoll
#

Well there’s no like

#

Guarantee that just bc u take off work that you’ll get tickets

#

Even tho you’d hope

fiery kettle
#

And that's why we do a lottery system

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So no one has to take time off work again

timid knoll
#

Wym

viscid veldt
#

Like, I get that people are frustrated, but the only people to be mad are are reselling sites, Ticketmaster, and the people scalping the tickets.

fiery kettle
#

A big artist's just gotta take the fall to start the lottery system

#

It's how Japan does all supply-exceeding events

viscid veldt
#

I just hope that there's been a takeaway as a result of this fiasco.

timid knoll
#

No lottery system

fiery kettle
#

Hell, that's even how they sold PS5s

timid knoll
#

How is that any more fair

#

What choose randomly?

fiery kettle
#

Lottery system is literally The Most Fair

timid knoll
#

Lottery system who gets codes?

fiery kettle
#

Everyone who wants a ticket gets an equal chance to get it. It's pure egalitarianism

#

No, who gets tickets

viscid veldt
#

I mean, the verified fan was pretty much a lottery this go around LOL

timid knoll
#

I get a random ticket?

viscid veldt
#

There was zero verification

storm nebula
#

i just saw a resale for 900 and almost bought it

fiery kettle
#

No more abstraction

quaint brook
#

Yeah no thanks to that.

timid knoll
#

Not having choice is less fair

fiery kettle
#

Okay then hear me out

#

There's two stages

#

Stage 1 is Lottery

timid knoll
#

It’s just freedom to buy what u want like anything else

snow cairn
timid knoll
#

Like the whole thing is they try to limit the bots

#

But we have freedom

fiery kettle
#

That's to decide the pool of 50,000 people to be seated in the stadium

#

The prize is to be in the pool

rancid stirrup
timid knoll
#

Anymore barriers is just like ruining it for regular people

fiery kettle
#

Then it's a race like it is today

#

So instead of 14 million people waiting to refresh a page, it's 2 million people

timid knoll
#

I think it should be whoever signs up verified fan first or whatever those slots are

fiery kettle
#

Because everyone who can get a seat is already decided the secondary decision is where

timid knoll
#

Which sucks too but

daring meadow
#

Honestly I'm surprised ticketmaster and seatgeek didn't just plain go down during presale. 14 million is crazy

timid knoll
#

Whatever whoever is following online cares so

fiery kettle
#

@grave lake what do you think u purist

#

I bring you a revolution

storm nebula
#

those numbers aren't adding to me but okay

fiery kettle
#

Anyway the critical mistake was allowing more tickets to be sold than there existed

#

Six tickets per person is absurd

#

In my opinion, it should be 2 max no exceptions talk to the wall

viral storm
#

Yep- they should never have allowed 1.5 million people in to buy 6 tickets per person.

Even if only 1.5 million only bought 2 tickets that’s still a ton of tickets.

fiery kettle
#

With 3 million tickets and 2 Tix per person, allow only 1.5 million on the site. No more.

modern rapids
#

I was really lucky to have gotten tix to the last show in LA and I literally cried bc I’m now 22 with a job and this is the first time I could actually afford her concert 😭 i remember crying when I was younger bc my family just couldn’t afford tix and I guess someone out there was looking out for me bc my Ticketmaster checkout process was quick and easy 🥹🫶

viscid veldt
#

I feel like if you're trying to get more than 2-3 tickets you could have someone else also go through to buy them at the same time as you, any number more than that just favors scalpers more than the small percentage of larger groups that are wanting to buy tickets

fiery kettle
#

Then give it like a 24 hour window

#

Every unsold gets put into general sale

#

Like this shouldn't be that hard

#

If they allowed 6 Tix per person, then only 500K should've been given advance codes

#

Etc etc

#

But also the decision to have all venues have their sales open in the same day is absurd and a horrifically stupid decision fomo be damned

grave lake
#

what i dont get is if they couldn't handle the server load

#

why tf didn't they do like rep

viral storm
winged pewter
#

if i could pick something that taylor should have done differently, its announce international dates at the same time. I know some int fans may have tried/gotten US tickets bc they arent sure if taylor is coming to them

grave lake
#

give people time slots

viscid veldt
#

yeah they should've done a waterfall -> earlier event -> earlier sale time

winged pewter
viscid veldt
#

there's no need to get tickets more than 6+ months out

grave lake
#

i'm not talkin like the full on boost system

#

im just sayin the

#

"hey log in at this time for sale" shit

fiery kettle
#

Like Glendale and LA are literally 5 months apart

winged pewter
#

it made less money 😦

snow cairn
#

I don’t understand how Rep made less money?

winged pewter
#

no panic buying

fiery kettle
#

Why did they have to have to both go on sale at the same time smh

viral storm
snow cairn
#

There were still plenty of tickets being resold though

grave lake
#

uh actually bianca they didn't go on sale same time

snow cairn
#

A comparable number from what I remember

grave lake
#

arizona is on a dif timezone smh

#

🤓

fiery kettle
#

I will bonk you

modern rapids
fiery kettle
#

I still think the best way is to just put each location into its own separate lottery where the prize is the code

#

Idk if Verified Fan codes were segregated by location

#

But if it wasn't that's stupid and they should've been

noble perch
#

i found tickets being resold for 39k on vivid seats ☠️

viscid veldt
#

I saw that too

modern rapids
#

That is a whole brand new car

fiery kettle
#

Then presale is like idfk 18 hours

#

And if there are leftover seats from the 18 hours, that's free game

noble perch
fiery kettle
#

Open to all lottery losers

glad pond
#

Why do I still want to wake up before 10am just in case 😭😭

viscid veldt
#

I thought the same thing, you could either A) see taylor or B) buy a new car LOL

modern rapids
#

You could also go to college with that money 😭

grave lake
#

listen you can go to college anytime

#

but you can't go to taylor anytime

noble perch
#

taylors great and all but id rather a car over just one night that i will most likely forget 80% of later on ☠️

grave lake
#

spend that 18k

#

||do not actually ||

fiery kettle
#

Give me some of that 18K on my PayPal

viscid veldt
#

the worst part is the inflated prices just go to someone that is screwing over an actual fan 💀

#

like how can they sleep at night

fiery kettle
#

On an expensive clean king-sized mattress

#

That's how

grave lake
#

or the alaskan king

viral storm
#

They sleep well I’m sure because they don’t care. I mean at the end of the day if you want to spend 10K on a ticket that’s on you. Don’t advise that. If no one buys their inflated ticket they lose and have to drop the price. That’s how you beat them.

viscid veldt
#

true, but like being a ticket scalper is such a scummy occupation

fiery kettle
#

If I could do it, I probably would

#

But I don't care enough about event tickets and putting myself through the whole waiting process game

#

I'd rather flip things I'm interested in

modern rapids
#

tbh I won’t be surprised if the high dollar amt tix get bought. I analyze expenses for my company and some employees buy tickets to sporting events that cost like $3k-5k so someone out there can def afford these prices

fiery kettle
#

Capitalism, I'm trapped

viscid veldt
#

I'm all for capitalism, but like there's no way any of the tickets that are that much are remotely worth that shrug

modern rapids
#

just makes me sad how greedy some ppl can be 😔😔

viral storm
#

Lol I just realized we are going through the concert version of what happened with the PS5s 🤭

modern rapids
#

like damn, fans just wanna see taylor and everyone should have a fair opportunity to do so ://

grave lake
noble perch
#

i like how 1.5m were given pre sale codes but 14m showed up anyway ☠️

spare gust
#

They should’ve required codes and credit card digits to enter the queue

#

Insane fr

modern rapids
#

I was surprised they didn’t ask for the code right away!

noble perch
spare gust
#

There wasn’t even like a captcha to catch any bots at all 💀

modern rapids
#

It’s like going to an exclusive bar and then getting turned away just as you were ordering drinks!

viral storm
#

Since presale codes were janky anyways I wouldn’t be surprised if people got tickets even without a code.

modern rapids
#

Half the bots are probably Ticketmaster’s ://

spare gust
noble perch
#

i think tons of people did, if i remember correctly, 20m tickets were sold which makes no sense if only 1.5m were given access with a 6 ticket limit each

viral storm
noble perch
#

i thought it was way more ☠️

modern rapids
#

I got the presale code for August 5 but it won’t let me choose aug 3&4? Only 5, 8, and 9. So idk how some ppl surpassed it

noble perch
#

actually i guess that makes sense, 60k-70k capacity per stadium

spare gust
#

Idk. I didn’t get a presale code so I didn’t join the queue. I did the capital one presale but we know how that went too

modern rapids
viral storm
#

For people who were in both the presale code and capitol one queue which was worst?

noble perch
#

you would think a big company like ticketmaster would be more organized lol

modern rapids
#

some hackers/bots out there must have generated random codes or something

spare gust
winged pewter
modern rapids
winged pewter
#

verified fan - 5 hours in queue, behind 20k people watched the final seats disappear before my eyes before i could click on them

capital one - behind 14k people, completely sold out before i even got to 7k

modern rapids
#

I wonder what’ll happen to these thousand dollar tickets when they’re still not bought the day of the concert? My friend who goes to a lot of concerts said that sometimes they drop the price just to get it sold lol

spare gust
#

Yeah the prices drop when demand drops

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It’s a bad idea to buy any rn from resellers

viral storm
winged pewter
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weak nest
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its so painful to see yall have tickets

worthy steppe
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Tbh I was lucky 🥺

modern rapids
weak nest
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i didnt even have a chance 💔

worthy steppe
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Bc I didn’t got verified but friends of mine got 2 so they shared it with me

worthy steppe
modern rapids
worthy steppe
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Nice!

storm nebula
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i got into atl but the tickets were gone, for capital one i sat there for 3 hours before it told me there's none left and i didn't even leave the queue

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who bought middle bowl tickets because i swear i've only seen like floor and nosebleeds

weak nest
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famous eraaa

jagged thicket
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capital one was so bad i got in super fast but seats were disappearing so fast😵

wild karma
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i didnt get anything no code, cap1 sale i had to use my friends cap1 card but even then whenever i tried to get a ticket it said that it was snatched

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i came home defeated

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i was like tf lol but then when i came home apparntly my bf has a season pass for the chargers so he got tickets that way????!!!!

storm nebula
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@winged pewter we were really just fighting bots

quick cargo
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if there was pole to see how many people on this server got tickets I'm thinking it'll be no more than 10 percent

hallow umbra
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wait guys listen this is even more fucked up...

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theres some deep deep issue because ticketmaster isnt doing the general sale.... only "verified fans" and capital one card holders had access to it... they prevented access to their service. is that not some sort of law being broken?

strange idol
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is the entire tour canceled now?

spare gust
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no

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general sale for tickets is

strange idol
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just making sure bc of whst it says at the end of ticketmasters tweet

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i rlly waited thru 12+ hours of queues and i cant even try the general sale now skchsjfjsjdjdjdj

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i need a ticket to one of the pa shows so bad

storm nebula
abstract quail
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I got a transferred ticket do they still scan the card billed or just my ticket..

glossy bronze
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so many people misread this tweet

dire folio
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"insufficient remaining ticket inventory to meet that demand" tf does that mean

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there's a max amount of tickets

icy geyser
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not enough tickets for the millions of people who will be wanting to buy one