#Eras Tour Spoiler-Free Discussion
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okay but she could have honored loverfest verified fans
Americans will know what its like to be an international fan
Yeah
right 😭
Agreed
idk what you want me to ask him?
Hello
You know what international fans do when they couldnt get tickets to a Tay concert?
cry
Yeah
and move on
Ticketmaster literally said they were gonna give Loverfest people “first priority” but… it’s Ticketmaster 🥴
I'll spoiler it in case you want to guess: ||we move on with our fucking lives||
same 
"first priority" - 20,000th in line 😄
first priority my ass
Idk how much I was but I didn’t want to touch ANYTHING
Wasn’t it first priority in getting presale
And not tickets
That’s the way it seemed
I know I was far back tho since I waited over 7 hours
Yeah
oh maybe but people who had Loverfest still didn’t get a code
well some people
not all
Idk
It was messy
alright one second
Still in shock I got tickets
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SAME
loverfest was supposed to have "preferred access"
Well she’s going to come to Toronto and me and my besties are gonna get VIP tickets
IM SO LUCKY
Also the people saying because it was so unfair they should cancel all the tickets
That would make it worse
Like
😭
what 💀😭
Yah thankfully 😅
i asked him, idk when he'll respond
i didn’t get tickets but that doesn’t even make sense??
i mean. honestly if there was a reason on the back end that fucked up the process, then yeah its unfair because the system was wrong. but otherwise nah
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I stand by the fact they gave way too many people verified fan- idk maybe no ticketmaster account created after the tour was announced should have gotten verified fan
like the theory i saw where presale queue order was actually flipped from what it shouldve been, allowing resellers easier access
Anyone here also going to Denver ??
lmao 2020 😭
6 tickets. grats
I’d believe that I had merch boost and was 16000 in the queue

It’s four in 512 and two 511 LOL
i had loverfest, merch boost, email confirmed boost, and i was 20,000th
ooh
My eyes are bloodshot from not sleeping the past few days trying to get tickets
not from the weeks of terror weve had starting from midnights mayhem with me?
!fm
MY OPENER
I have girl in red and Gracie
Gayle and HIAM
We had a grace period when she just focused on releasing anti hero remixes 😂
Girl I want gayle to sign vinyl or sm
That would be so fun
I have Girl in Red and Owenn- I have to learn some Owenn songs before tour
I will never shut up about my show
Girl it was gayle or nothing
i got nobody i'm really excited about it !
Honestly I’ve heard one lia kate song and I liked I think
Minneapolis N2? Chicago? Detroit? Pittsburgh?

where
Chicago Night 1
I get to look at the back of Tay’s head from the nosebleeds unless TN pitties me and moves me
ok ok hold on
!fm
it’s slowly breaking me
do you not have any?
I think like 70% of us don’t have any lol
I am going to dress as Speak Now era- have something silly planned for a costume.
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I think I might go as rep
gaslighting myself that Taylor will see me all the way from 122
tour
when
Wait omg now that you say this I’m realizing she will actually see me
Wait

Floor?
Yes
Nice
Denver night two
give me. I will drive all the way there
Did you get them for a good price?
vip or no
Yes
what package
stop 
It’s been a long time cominf
Legend
Tell Taylor we said hi
IM STEALING YOUR TICKETS
can you beat my head in with that image
wait guys so are all tickets gone or is it just tickets from ticket master?
im going to jump out my window
all gone
bye bye
resale only
Poor babes
Also Beyoncé resale gonna be crazy too
sorry i didnt mean to sound rude its a rule they just made lol
What’s a rule
WAIT IT ONLY TAKES ME 13 HOURS TO GET TO THAT STADIUM GIVE ME YOUR TICKETS

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lemme find where i’m sitting
most concerts ive been to have been side view
the way i kinda scored considering this was at like 5 pm
my view
i might try for floor on day of
NO BECAUSE NOW HALF THE NATION ISNT GONNA BE THERE ALSNEKDJICJRIELWN
Your view should be pretty good when she’s at the end of the stage
lol
I’m still in shock that TM cancelled general sale
or i could dress up as a mirrorball
my view except i’m gonna be a lot lower down
yeah
That’s what I was worried about that’s why I just took what I got
theyve been gone
yo
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taste
that's a really good album
true
This song is not about Joshua basset
Nonsense
damn
stage will be closer to me
I’ve had that exact seat
https://tenor.com/view/blind-black-blacked-out-gif-16621256 this is my view
Pretty much
ive went to niners games before with seats like that
they were fine
i simply do not care she will hear my screams
It was Mother’s Day
only real swifties why know I’m listening to Tim McGraw
The artist or the song
my mom almost went to 1989 world tour but she said they sold out too fast
because taylor is featured on that track
I love that song
I can’t live without ya I can’t live with out ya baby
Hits deep honestly
I used to sing that growing up
Like obsessively
And I was also a fan of Tim McGraw and at the time our dogs name was McGraw
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major slay
i want her to perform better man
Ticketmaster after charging $150 of fees
same
so if we got better man tv.. are we getting TIWYCF tv?
Are you at 100 section
106
Has Ticketmaster posted any additional information besides their cryptic tweet?
no
Lucky lucky, how much was your ticket
well
that they are being investigated by two states
i mean i was like super lucky
my tickets are at the 400 level 
i feel like i won the lottery w those seats especially since it was at like 5:30 pm
I hope
Which stadium?
us bank
same
Ahhh I see I'm at lumen
fuck us bank tbh
what’d they do to you 😭
I contemplated getting around that area but I also didn't wanna be too far from cat walk
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Yeah, I was just so mad that I was in the queue for the Capital One sale and after 2 hours not a single ticket was there. like what..? I joined the queue right at 2 PM...
SSHSSS
i dont like their logo
us bank isn’t good for concerts
and they have a shitty logo
I saw some TikToks of people not getting their Tickets due to Chase bank declining their card
REAL
I had to do it in the MIDDLE of my purchase imagine my panic state
They wouldn't let me continue until I did it
omg
I was so stressed during picking my seats
scariest thing I’ve ever done
but
Oh my god me too, I didn't have time at all
The good seats were gone by the second, the ones I chose gone the moment I clicked them
I got lowerbowl aisle seats so waiting 7.5 hours and being barely able to breathe during picking my seats was worth it I guess
100 levels were all gone for me 😭
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no bc i saw those 4 seats pop up cuz i they left someone’s cart i’ve never clicked anything so fast i just know it was like a 1 in 500 chance knowing how many ppl were on at the same time as me
(i’m going w friends)
Its my first time so I didn't know you can switch to map
I've been just doing the side bar stuff with the best seat options
Regret 😭
you can but I hate doing map, I had to do list to get my lowerbowl tickets
target center doesn’t use ticketmaster which is so slay
u can buy them off ticketmaster
everytime I did map I couldn’t get any
but it’s actually a third party site technically
I think for this case it would've worked in my favor a bit but yeah didn't know 😭
I like Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul
i saw ari there
jealous
eh
How much were her tickets
dang
😬
the stage was also a toilet bowl
what
oh
Has taylor been late for her concerts? I know my friend went to post Malone's recently and he was an hour late too
Oh I can see what you mean ..
i doubt she would be late
I’ve heard of The Weeknd being late
I heard about his big ass moon obstructing the view
At the reputation tour she wasn't late when I went, there were openers though.
fuck ticketmaster
can’t believe there was a point i was more excited ab camilla than charli…
I genuinely hope that the investigation into them gets them broken up and that for the next tour (if there is one) Taylor ditches them.
The eras openers are all amazing though like yeah we meme know Gayle but she'll probably be at least a fun meme
Monopolies are hard to break
monopolies are hard to break
And Owenn is unknown but who knows maybe he's a slay!
they tried it w facebook and they just had to rebrand and got off w a slap on the wrist
I know I'm like basic for saying this but I thought it's be Olivia or Conan
Also, how did they even "verify" a fan? Like, for reputation you actually did steps to "prove" that you were a fan...
Ticketmaster is all cloak and daggers when it comes to how half of their systems work
Legit I've seen all of these openers live outside of Gracie/GAYLE/Owenn like I can help verify how good they are if needed 😂
haim is so much fun live
Can't wait
i’m probably going to get my merch when she’s performing her earlier eras i know i’ll probably get dog piled on for saying that
who’s that
HAIM
Is that Haim?
Successfully gifted 8 taypoints out of 8:
8 taypoints to @grave lake
legit if yall needed openers advice I can help with that 😂
how good is girl in red
I need all the advices since it's my first big concert 😭
i’m not a fan personally
get merch during the concert
Ayyy
that’s all my advice
Girl in red was one of my favorite shows i saw this year
Wouldn't it be very expensive
I am
What are the merch there usually? Concert specific or like the ones on her site
concerts are fun except for the fact a lot of venues ban reusable water bottles and force u to buy $5 bottles of dasani
concert specific
Probably tour specific
Ain't no way I was hoping I could bring my own water 😬
When i get home I'll try to explain more 😂
Maybe some from her site
u can check
on ur venues website
Some venues let you bring in a sealed one
Thank you I'll check mine
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From your experience are seated fans usually seated
no
Like on 100-200 levels
No
No
Aw man 😭
Why
If everyone stands the whole time I feel like I have to BC I wanna see haha
at least us bank has water fountains so u can buy one bottle and refill it
i mean it might be scary to jump around 😭
I'm scared of where my seats are, never sat nose bleeds lol
I'm afraid I'll go feral at the hook of cruel summer and out of the woods if she performs them
idk like i got nosebleeders for rep tour and i was too scared to stand
it was very steep
Yeah you could just tumble all the way down lol
yep
Oh my god
Same
I’m gonna do that so I can “accidentally” stumble onto the floor
lmao
eh what a shame :/
Do you think mid bowl 200 I can still see her? Or it's rough
Mid bowl will be good
That's reassuring BC I was afraid I won't see much of her and I should've just went to higher bowl
That's the kinda energy that TN is looking for
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[The Lucky One (Taylor's Version)](https://www.last.fm/music/Taylor+Swift/_/The+Lucky+One+(Taylor's+Version))
Track 13 red tv
Yeah Im probably gonna rely on screen but I just want to be able to see her too if I can 😭
Yeah neither of my seats are super close but I'm lucky to get even relatively close ones 😬
I got two dates two for my pair and two for my friends
HUH
The ones for me is like 700 dollars altogether fee and stuff
700 for two tickets
For hers it was like 500-600 for two
Well, best of luck to everyone still trying to get tickets. I'm probably going to try one more time once the dust settles and TM figures out what is happening with the rest of the tickets, otherwise I'll just YOLO it until it gets closer to the event 😂
I really do hope that Taylor or at the very least Taylor's team speaks out about this clown fiesta. 🤡
owenn is one of her former dancers!
p sure theyre gone bestie 🤡
like…
idk, I was under the impression that they were only selling a select percentage of them during the presale
That I do know but he doesn't have too much music 😂
anyone know when ticketmaster will have reselling
If they did have every ticket available during the presale that's a YIKES.
they did
i think
at least it looked like it on the map
Yeah, I'm just not entirely sure - the only number I've heard was 2 million tickets.
Which is pretty concerning since the reputation tour was 2.8 million 😬
I still just think that the "verified fan" system is a major joke, like what are they even doing to "verify" fans?
how is your coach getting tickets?
Previously it was linked to merch purchases, album purchases, etc.
nothing obv
yeah it was cancelled

Well, yikes. There's no way I'm paying for scalper tickets just to be in the nosebleed seats for the original price of better seats 🤣
There were $49 nosebleeds when I bought my tickets
I bought pre sale CD but didn't get a code for boost :((
And later that evening when I checked again, though there were less
The boost didn’t come with a code!
I didn't get the email about the boost so I assumed I didn't get it
I didn’t get a “boost” ppl online were acting as if all of their boost should’ve boosted them in line & it’s like no the boost got u the pre sale code and boosted u in priority for that at least from what I know
I never got an email
who in the right mind would be behind the stage 😭
But I got a presale code
zamnnn
Honestly she practically goes in a circle
Like u know to go to the sides
Then if ur in the back u see her side
loverfest had "preferred access" though which was a term they used separate from boosting
I'm getting mixed messages, some say it's for getting the code, some say it's for the queue
i think it was just randomized
i thought buying merch boosted your chances tho?
Not everyone
I bought the CD from her site and didn't get boost
oh, ok, interesting to know
I emailed them about it and they said it's for UK only or something? Didn't make any sense BC the concert isn't even international yet
I do know people signed up for code in UK site
But it just didn't make sense to me for US tours
thats so weird
yea
Public sale is cancelled currently due to insufficent supply.
cause the remaining of the inventory of the tickets being low i think?
That is correct.
that is so annoying
i honestly didn't know you could miss tickets? like i didn't know you could actually sell too much of it?
the pre-order boost for the UK is for UK tickets in the future
it was solely a UK store offer
But I was asking specifically about the boost email everyone was getting during that time
im so glad i payed for the insurance on my tickets bc i would be hella pissed if my tickets were given away and i wasnt refunded 🧍♀️
i really hope it gets sorted out
The assumption was that only x amount were allocated for pre-sales.
Reputation Stadium Tour sold a lot of volume too, but I secured one each night for the local shows (Toronto night one and two).
bc ik they were supposed to have tickets reserved for general sale
so like where did those tickets go????
i ate them
ya but they fucked up and put ALL tickets available for the presale
so bots and resellers snatched them up
that’s terrible
Most likely resellers. I mean 2 million tickets is a lot to sell.
But I can't imagine that much volume sold to people. Even with a lot of "verified fan registrations."
Exactly! You sold all the presale ones, but you didnt put general sale tickets in presale, did you ticket ''master''?
i mean just look at the amount available on stubhub?
they gave out 1.5m verified fan codes
yea. and thats also assuming ALL those ppl get multiple tickets
yeaaaah
i wonder why they gave that much presale code if it ended to be too much. they definitly wanted money, but idk, it feels weird
because TM is run by greedy morons?
they wanted panic buying so people would spend without thinking
yea, but like, you would think theyre smart enough to not go so overboard that they create a never ending queue, which makes people leave, and make it impossible to have tickets?
that would kind of make sense
it's not solely because they gave out too many presale codes
they said there were 15m people logged on and trying to get in queue and stuff
supply and demand tho, obviously hype was high for tickets so if they give out a lot of presale --> people buy more tickets for friends and stuff because they dont want to miss out
they gave 1.5 mil people presale codes
14m people on the ticketmaster website, not in queue
The data is most likely skewed because some people were using multiple devices and browsers.
How many tickets could you buy per person
out of 3.5 mil who registered
right i should've made it more clear i wasn't trying to say that all of those people were in queue
6
6
Six per person.
6 i think
Well there you go lmao
but for those who were in queue it doesn't help that you can get in queue, and only after you get to the end of queue it'd check if your account was tied to a presale code or not
puts more load on their systems just keeping people in queue
With 3 million tickets in total, you need 500k maxing out to hit that limit
i was in queue for the capital one sale and it kicked us out cause there were no more tickets
And with 1.5 million codes, that's more than enough to exhaust your entire supply on the presale
same
@fiery kettle it gets even funnier
the verified fan sale: codes only let you buy 6 period
the cap one sale: 6 per transaction
so stupid and frustrating lol
Letting people buy 6 tickets was the worst decision I think I had ever heard of
What night? I’m there the Friday
ticketmaster should only allow 1 transaction per presale period
Wait so Captial One card holders were just maxing out their credit buying half a dozen at the same time?
not for them? like obviously youre gonna make a ton of money if people are buying 6 per session
of course
yeah lmfaooo
lmaooo
i wonder what percentage of taylor swift fans were actually able to purchase tickets
Not only that, but then there were people buying tickets for multiple shows
Like that's ridiculous
Yeah no fucking wonder the entire supply was Nicolas Cage Gone in 60 Seconds
i mean that's not as big of a problem as the scalpers
i dont believe in this bc i got tickets for my friends who couldnt afford to go 😭
me, with no shows. 🙂
i hope majority, but i dont think so...
is it weird that im like mega bummed lol
No, but letting people buy 6 tickets and for multiple shows helps scalpers buy more tickets
no
6 per transaction is a lot of tickets
no, just about everyone who wanted tickets is bummed
how is it that ticket master is like
like its just a concert there will be many more
i mean yeah but in a lot of cases it could be people buying for a group of 6
one of the biggest ticket distributors
my mom was looking forward to having any chance of getting tickets tomorrow for general sale so she is upset
i was just so hype 
here's what i do not understand
Mikeey what's your estimate on how much of the 3 million tickets are now in scalpers' hands
but cant fend off scalpers and bots
Yeah, I get that - it's a double-edged sword.
like srs or meme
Serious
gotta be something nuts
10%? 20%? 30%?
So like 15%
👀
Of course not
oh yeah lemme finish what i was saying
here's what i don't get
why didn't they just do a VF for cap one holders too
like that is a thing for amex
I guess we'll never know
and then give them the same rules as normal VF so like 6 per code period
Where I ended up. Spending way more than I was planning to.
how else will they make money
Okay, also during the capital one presale why could you join the queue before verifying that you have a Capital One card?
right!!
cause TM's system is stupid
i hate them so fking much
There must have been so many people mucking up the works
i doubt we will ever know, which sucks, cause it's so confusing
which is why i don't get why they didn't do a seperate VF for cap one holders
paramore just did it with amex
harry did it with his shows
the tech is there
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think it's also because Amex is TM's normal partner, so they were just wanting to F over Capital One and tarnish their brands since they're only VISA and MasterCard
or just the same thing during the other presale
nahhhhhhhhhhhh they wouldn't do shit like that
TM will just take money whenever they can

Ticketmaster wanted bigger profit, they knew what they r doing
Also, they really needed to do something like 25% are available for VF 25% for CO and 50% for general
just anything but what they did
the thing is do we know how much was sold during both sales
like
percent of stadiums wise
It sounds like all tickets were up for grabs
yes
see that is not the first time stuff sold out on presale
it happened earlier this year with bts and their vegas like four shows
Hard to say
Due to overwhelming demand during today’s @BTS_BigHit BTS GLOBAL OFFICIAL FANCLUB ARMY MEMBERSHIP Presale, all tickets for the @AllegiantStadm shows have been purchased. All shows are now sold out. There will not be a General Verified Fan Presale or General Public Onsale.
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22520
they had general sale
verified fan
and then they had first a membership sale
fuckin bullshit
and it sold out in that first sale
All I know is Ticketmaster's tweets seem to be more cryptic than some of Taylor's Easter eggs.
so people who got picked for verified fan never even had a CHANCE
like imagine that shit
you get picked for VF for BTS which is basically like getting the fucking wonka golden ticket
and then boom it doesn't even happen
also the way that taylornation only retweeted it, said nothing else, and taylor has been silent too.....whats going on
i know we arent buying or selling tikctes on here but does anyone know where to buy tickets at all atp?
i doubt taylor can say anything
heres my hot take
if anything she'll put out a general "thanks for all ur support, sorry it sold out so fast"
well i mean silence just period. not even anything, and the no context rt from tn
I peeked at stubhub out of desperation, people are crazy to think that anyone would pay that markup.
rn your only options would be maybe looking at trust worthy twitters but outside of that there's nothing really
Hear me out
resellers, but youre gonna pay like 200% more
You shouldn't be able to buy tour tickets online
bianca said we need to reject mobile tickets
Yeah, I feel like Taylor is going to take zero accountability despite choosing to partner with Ticketmaster even after issues with previous sales (granted, they weren't this bad)
Let's go back to the days of camping outside the venue
embrace tradition
i knowww i just wanna make sure i get like a real ticket not fake scammed
Line up for days to buy tickets
Sorry, I have to work
honestly lemme be real with you
the only place with "verified" tix was ticketmaster
if you are patient enough you can either
Go back to the Analog Way
wait until week of or hell day of the show
I honestly would've preferred a lottery system at this point LOL
and see if scalpers drop in price
or see if TM puts out new tickets
cause it does happen
not in this economy sadly. its too costly to just take off work
even with the hardest shows it happens
scalp prices will drop, demand is just so crazy rn
people will move on and the value will go down
@fiery kettle have you heard about how like south america is with like lining up for shows early
54 in LA
How
Yeah, I hope it blows over and the real fans can get some reasonably priced tickets
so harry styles is there i think this month or next month
and people been lined up for him
FOR MONTHS
IT'S APPARENTLY THE CULTURE DOWN THERE
crazy
bruh
no ty
THEY LINE UP FOR MONTHS FOR THE SHOW 😭
i could not afford that
I had it happen with the reputation tour, once it got closer ticket prices went 
nothing is worth that to me
not even for tickets just to be able to have a spot
apparently they take turns and go to work etc
For barricades?
theres no way in hell id even wait in line for a full 24 hrs 💀
💀💀💀
Okay wait Mikey
yeah for like pit
im too old to wait in line for an hour
THats atually pretty clever
Gurl that pit is so small 💀💀💀
bianca no
no
Go back to the analog way
dont give the americans ideas
please no
i have to work bestie
i have to feed myself
There’s no even any pit
Go to the fucking venue and buy it yourself
Slay ig
First 60,000 people to get it get it
why was taylors picture taken off my stub hub 💀 now its just a generic pic of a crowd
I'll go all the way too and its 1 ticket per person
Honestly, if they moved away from digital tickets they could eliminate most of the scalping
When you've made your purchase, you will be escorted out by security
and cut out the monstrosity that is TM
They need those machines that verify your ID like at airport security 🤣
I'm surprised they havet done a lottery system yet
It'd be so fucking easy and profitable to do a lottery system
well that's how VF is basically picked
it's a lottery if you get picked or waitlisted
id like to volunteer to be shot
The main thing is they need to weed out non-fans, but the question is how and I don't think ticketmaster cares to do anything about it.
Why not just go all the way
$1000 lottery ticket, the prizes are either a ticket or $1000
they wont. bc they just want money
In fact they can even bullshit it and say "$1000 lottery ticket + fees and the prizes are either refunding the lottery ticket or a concert ticket"
ANd the refund has fees
Boom you gain a profit on the losers too
It's bullshit but it'd be better than this shit
Hire me, Ticketmaster
I can be unethical too
bianca making my blood pressure rise

I feel certain that Taylor is upset about us being upset and about some of the hatred being thrown her way. But for whatever reason, she is unable to comment right now. I don’t know if there is a legal reason behind that or PR or what. But I’m still rooting for her.
They could have just given codes to Taylor Nation email recipients or people who have merch store accounts
honestly though i don't know what she can even really say
like unless she's gonna take off all resale tickets and put em back into the free market
what can you really do
Yeah I’m sure no matter what she says people will be angry
Right. I think I’m just reaching my limit on supposed fans hating on her.
GIVE EVERYONE VIP!
and the dynamic pricing (which i still don't know if it was for sure on)
go ahead but like
everything else is not on her
like besties she isdoing 52 shows
in just the us
SHE DID 53 TOTAL FOR ALL OF REP
idk i’m like
sick of people treating this shit so unbelievably seriously, if you are able to buy concert tickets in the first place (even if you didn’t) you’re extremely privileged
people are apparently taking their vinyls and apparently burning them? or some shit in anger
like bro come on
taylor doesn’t care she already got ur money like 😭
Mikeey what do you think
as the resident concert guy?
Just put everyone in a lottery and charge for all the transaction fees
bianca
Yeah this!! Like wtf.
Okay so you'd rather keep the system you're in now?
No analog lines AND no lotteries? Y'all're just spoiled smh
i vote rep presale system
Yes. Except now this time fucked up my record and this tour will be not tied to my TN account.
Because my login gave me all the goddamn errors. It was a nightmare sequence.
I seriously couldn’t have designed it better if I was Michael from the good place
Oh you think you’re through the queue?
Oh those are the tickets you want?? Or these? How about these?
ERRORERRORERROR
TM:
Yeah, I think my only frustrations with Taylor is that she partnered with the awful corporation that is Ticketmaster, but it's not like there's any other great choices with their monopoly.
There aren’t any other choices yea
Yeah, that's the thing, so I don't blame her for going with Ticketmaster, but like at the same time I think she would have enough leverage to change the industry in some way
I just want to know how supposedly 14 million people were in the presale queue if they only sent out like 1.5 million codes. And why did they send out 1.5 million codes where everyone could buy up to 6 tickets if there were only like 4 million seats total for the US 🫠
Just like the whole spotify/apple music thing
14m werent in the queue
Ticketmaster is just so big and if she publicly went against them she’d be screwed with getting arenas. Spotify worked bc she could go to apple
There’s no major competition for Ticketmaster
Oh so it was just 14 million people trying to get into the queue?
yeah 14m on the website
SwiftTix
hell naw i wouldn't trust that at all
yall saw how long it took for shit to leave ferndale??????
you trust the same people to sell tickets????
Is that where her merch comes from? 💀
wait do you not know the whole thing with her merch?
Maybe Tay should preform in Ferndale and we can all just grab our merch while we are there.
@viscid veldt one of the big things with midnights stuff like the signed cds and vinyl was people got their shipping labels
but they were NOT moving
and they were stuck in her shipping warehouse
in ferndale michigan
YIKES
like just not moving
for some people it took forever for it to actually start moving and ship ou t
Yeah, I remember ordering a glass from the generations collection -- I ordered it the day it released in the store and didn't get it until january
like it was a 2+ month wait
good thing it wasn't a christmas gift LOL
What do you guys think? 100% chance we will get a Eras tour movie on Disney+ as the third part of her deal with Disney+?
There will definitely be a movie
And it's a bidding war among the streaming services
Long Pond was a Disney+exclusive
ive literally passed away omgg
quibi?????
So was City of Lover
Crunchyroll lmao
didnt disney+ just get the rights to bleach
also i just opened up #1043015562135089204 so if anyone has maybe questions about their venue or seats etc bring it on over
How is there people saying there’s going to be some lawsuit like how
Class action against Ticketmaster if I had to guess
If I remember correctly she had 1 more thing to do with Disney+ as they had a 3 item contract
People who didn’t get tickets lost time but not money or anything like what are we gunna say
I know Ticketmaster is getting investigated over anti-trust allegations
^
EXACTLY
Not sure about a lawsuit though 
Well there’s no like
Guarantee that just bc u take off work that you’ll get tickets
Even tho you’d hope
Wym
Like, I get that people are frustrated, but the only people to be mad are are reselling sites, Ticketmaster, and the people scalping the tickets.
A big artist's just gotta take the fall to start the lottery system
It's how Japan does all supply-exceeding events
I just hope that there's been a takeaway as a result of this fiasco.
No lottery system
Hell, that's even how they sold PS5s
Lottery system is literally The Most Fair
Lottery system who gets codes?
Everyone who wants a ticket gets an equal chance to get it. It's pure egalitarianism
No, who gets tickets
I mean, the verified fan was pretty much a lottery this go around LOL
I get a random ticket?
There was zero verification
i just saw a resale for 900 and almost bought it
No more abstraction
Yeah no thanks to that.
Not having choice is less fair
It’s just freedom to buy what u want like anything else
This is true tbh
That's to decide the pool of 50,000 people to be seated in the stadium
The prize is to be in the pool
Anymore barriers is just like ruining it for regular people
Then it's a race like it is today
So instead of 14 million people waiting to refresh a page, it's 2 million people
I think it should be whoever signs up verified fan first or whatever those slots are
Because everyone who can get a seat is already decided the secondary decision is where
Which sucks too but
Honestly I'm surprised ticketmaster and seatgeek didn't just plain go down during presale. 14 million is crazy
Whatever whoever is following online cares so
those numbers aren't adding to me but okay
Anyway the critical mistake was allowing more tickets to be sold than there existed
Six tickets per person is absurd
In my opinion, it should be 2 max no exceptions talk to the wall
Yep- they should never have allowed 1.5 million people in to buy 6 tickets per person.
Even if only 1.5 million only bought 2 tickets that’s still a ton of tickets.
With 3 million tickets and 2 Tix per person, allow only 1.5 million on the site. No more.
I was really lucky to have gotten tix to the last show in LA and I literally cried bc I’m now 22 with a job and this is the first time I could actually afford her concert 😭 i remember crying when I was younger bc my family just couldn’t afford tix and I guess someone out there was looking out for me bc my Ticketmaster checkout process was quick and easy 🥹🫶
I feel like if you're trying to get more than 2-3 tickets you could have someone else also go through to buy them at the same time as you, any number more than that just favors scalpers more than the small percentage of larger groups that are wanting to buy tickets
Then give it like a 24 hour window
Every unsold gets put into general sale
Like this shouldn't be that hard
If they allowed 6 Tix per person, then only 500K should've been given advance codes
Etc etc
But also the decision to have all venues have their sales open in the same day is absurd and a horrifically stupid decision fomo be damned
what i dont get is if they couldn't handle the server load
why tf didn't they do like rep
Happy for you!!! I’m also in the boat of this being the first Taylor concert I have the funds and means to get to.
I literally had just graduated college during Rep and had $0 extra money to my name and also no one to go with me 3 hours away to the nearest venue.
if i could pick something that taylor should have done differently, its announce international dates at the same time. I know some int fans may have tried/gotten US tickets bc they arent sure if taylor is coming to them
give people time slots
yeah they should've done a waterfall -> earlier event -> earlier sale time
made less money
there's no need to get tickets more than 6+ months out
i'm not talkin like the full on boost system
im just sayin the
"hey log in at this time for sale" shit
Like Glendale and LA are literally 5 months apart
it made less money 😦
I don’t understand how Rep made less money?
no panic buying
Why did they have to have to both go on sale at the same time smh
Less people bought tickets to resell them so they got less money in fees
There were still plenty of tickets being resold though
uh actually bianca they didn't go on sale same time
A comparable number from what I remember
I will bonk you
Thank you!!!!! And yes, same for me with Rep tour!! I was still in college then and every penny from my job went straight to my living expenses + I went to college in a remote town, so same, nearest venue is too far.
I still think the best way is to just put each location into its own separate lottery where the prize is the code
Idk if Verified Fan codes were segregated by location
But if it wasn't that's stupid and they should've been
i found tickets being resold for 39k on vivid seats ☠️
I saw that too
That is a whole brand new car
Then presale is like idfk 18 hours
And if there are leftover seats from the 18 hours, that's free game
😭
Open to all lottery losers
Why do I still want to wake up before 10am just in case 😭😭
I thought the same thing, you could either A) see taylor or B) buy a new car LOL
You could also go to college with that money 😭
taylors great and all but id rather a car over just one night that i will most likely forget 80% of later on ☠️
Give me some of that 18K on my PayPal
the worst part is the inflated prices just go to someone that is screwing over an actual fan 💀
like how can they sleep at night
you think they got the california king
or the alaskan king
They sleep well I’m sure because they don’t care. I mean at the end of the day if you want to spend 10K on a ticket that’s on you. Don’t advise that. If no one buys their inflated ticket they lose and have to drop the price. That’s how you beat them.
true, but like being a ticket scalper is such a scummy occupation
If I could do it, I probably would
But I don't care enough about event tickets and putting myself through the whole waiting process game
I'd rather flip things I'm interested in
tbh I won’t be surprised if the high dollar amt tix get bought. I analyze expenses for my company and some employees buy tickets to sporting events that cost like $3k-5k so someone out there can def afford these prices
Capitalism, I'm trapped
I'm all for capitalism, but like there's no way any of the tickets that are that much are remotely worth that 
just makes me sad how greedy some ppl can be 😔😔
Lol I just realized we are going through the concert version of what happened with the PS5s 🤭
like damn, fans just wanna see taylor and everyone should have a fair opportunity to do so ://
and just like a ps5 i still can't easily get one!
i like how 1.5m were given pre sale codes but 14m showed up anyway ☠️
I was surprised they didn’t ask for the code right away!
yeah, instead they made you put in the code after u made it past the queue which didnt make much sense
There wasn’t even like a captcha to catch any bots at all 💀
It’s like going to an exclusive bar and then getting turned away just as you were ordering drinks!
Since presale codes were janky anyways I wouldn’t be surprised if people got tickets even without a code.
Half the bots are probably Ticketmaster’s ://
Yeah when I joined the queue I was so confused it didn’t ask for the numbers beforehand
i think tons of people did, if i remember correctly, 20m tickets were sold which makes no sense if only 1.5m were given access with a 6 ticket limit each
You weren’t supposed to be able to join the queue for a show you didn’t have presale access to.
2 million
I got the presale code for August 5 but it won’t let me choose aug 3&4? Only 5, 8, and 9. So idk how some ppl surpassed it
actually i guess that makes sense, 60k-70k capacity per stadium
it let me into any date lol
Idk. I didn’t get a presale code so I didn’t join the queue. I did the capital one presale but we know how that went too
Omgggg nice! But the lack of consistency is mind blowing!
For people who were in both the presale code and capitol one queue which was worst?
you would think a big company like ticketmaster would be more organized lol
some hackers/bots out there must have generated random codes or something
Or they input tons of emails for the presale codes
depends what you define as worst
True!!
verified fan - 5 hours in queue, behind 20k people watched the final seats disappear before my eyes before i could click on them
capital one - behind 14k people, completely sold out before i even got to 7k
I wonder what’ll happen to these thousand dollar tickets when they’re still not bought the day of the concert? My friend who goes to a lot of concerts said that sometimes they drop the price just to get it sold lol
Oh so painful in different ways then
yeah..
You’re going to the last show?? Me too !!!
its so painful to see yall have tickets
Tbh I was lucky 🥺
Yep!!! And yayyy!!!
i didnt even have a chance 💔
Bc I didn’t got verified but friends of mine got 2 so they shared it with me
What section are you?
336!
Nice!
capital one
i got into atl but the tickets were gone, for capital one i sat there for 3 hours before it told me there's none left and i didn't even leave the queue
who bought middle bowl tickets because i swear i've only seen like floor and nosebleeds
famous eraaa
capital one was so bad i got in super fast but seats were disappearing so fast😵
i didnt get anything no code, cap1 sale i had to use my friends cap1 card but even then whenever i tried to get a ticket it said that it was snatched
i came home defeated
i was like tf lol but then when i came home apparntly my bf has a season pass for the chargers so he got tickets that way????!!!!
That's amazing congrats!!
if there was pole to see how many people on this server got tickets I'm thinking it'll be no more than 10 percent
wait guys listen this is even more fucked up...
theres some deep deep issue because ticketmaster isnt doing the general sale.... only "verified fans" and capital one card holders had access to it... they prevented access to their service. is that not some sort of law being broken?
is the entire tour canceled now?
just making sure bc of whst it says at the end of ticketmasters tweet
i rlly waited thru 12+ hours of queues and i cant even try the general sale now skchsjfjsjdjdjdj
i need a ticket to one of the pa shows so bad
should be getting sued atleast by the state of Tennessee
I got a transferred ticket do they still scan the card billed or just my ticket..
so many people misread this tweet
"insufficient remaining ticket inventory to meet that demand" tf does that mean
there's a max amount of tickets
not enough tickets for the millions of people who will be wanting to buy one
aka sold out basically


