redesign wisdom 10

[analog musk]

plz because it sucks

[surreal nebula]

Stop with Wis 10 slander

It was literally the ultimate sapphire grinding talent

[copper wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

wis 10 is garbage, especially with the new combos. it needs a rework BAD

[spiral axle]

Yeah it really does suck but like people have been complaining for a while and I doubt it’s ever getting changed

[ripe spade]

what do you mean by this? how does it help grinding saphires?

[surreal nebula]

Taking less tablets room and more lvl up rooms(1 lvl = 1 Sapphire). It also gives exp gain increase which means more lvl up

I do agree with the argument "item pool doesn't decrease" and yes, it should have some adjustments

But the idea of wis 10 is really about sapphire grinding, at least for me it is.

[copper wigeon]

Eh, that's really a side argument now, the main argument against wis 10 is the new combo system and that unique effect. Very similarly to the hard modifier that got removed, wis 10 completely cripples any combo-reliant builds because it removes the ability to stack items to reach 10 combo, meaning many combos are hard stuck at level 6 or 8 which is a pretty damn big nerf

Admittedly, this could be fixed by adding a clause or something onto wis 10 that says "levels applied to unique items give combo progress" but honestly I think wis 10 should be reworked to be actually interesting and not just "yeah your item pool is static and the game plays like a merge game have fun I guess"

[surreal nebula]

It would be just better that they add more artifacts to make each combo reach up to 10 without duplicates.

In my opinion, they should just make it so that the default artifacts' appearance chances are reduced to non-unique artifacts once you get one of them per artifacts.

[rapid arrow]

Taking less tablet rooms and more lvl up rooms is dependent how?
Like because of the freeish enchants you don't need the tablets?
Eeeeeh, while i guess correct, doesn't sound that effective

[surreal nebula]

here. I even throw "no anvil room" too

[rapid arrow]

What did wis 10 got to do with it?

[surreal nebula]

more level means more sapphire. anvil room doesn't have enemies anymore so I avoid it

also, I realized that you also won't get duplicates if the artifacts are at max stars in backpack, which means it's still easier to find other artifacts related to the desired combos

wis 10 won't be good with the "Dispossession" hm modifier though, since most of those advance tablets are from the boss loot

[rapid arrow]

Wis 10 doesn't grant you more levels

[surreal nebula]

wis 10 helps you focus on lvl rooms, add wis 20 and you get +20% exp gain

[rapid arrow]

I understand wis 20
But not the wis 10

[surreal nebula]

Let me guess, you don't go to tablet rooms more often?

[spiral pike]

it's just not worth it though?

you don't really need to farm sapphires too you already get a lot as is

[rapid arrow]

I mean
If I want to farm Sapphires
I'd just choose lvlup rooms instead of tablet rooms regardless of wis 10

[surreal nebula]

But then your damage falls behind when there's not enough tablets to star up your artifacts

[spiral pike]

huh

[rapid arrow]

Arti is a proof you don't need to worry about that that much anyway

[surreal nebula]

Arti is on a whole other level, I think he smoked Gold Leaf for breakfast.

But if you're talking about his recent max ingenuity post, that's still just percentage increase. If your base damage is still low then it's still gonna be low.

[spiral axle]

Arti is proof that insane people are in fact let out of the asylum early

[copper wigeon]

Skill issue, get good

I'll be honest I don't encounter that issue because I get enough levels from boss tablets and randomly rolled tablets

[rapid arrow]

nonono,
what I mean is that if you're farming sapphires, you dont really need high power anyway
you're not going to do HMs for Sapphire run, and it's going to be pretty easy anyway