My MHUR Skill Tier List

[bold bone]

I'm open to any and all opinions because I have not played as and seen how ALL these players operate. I'm mainly going based off of experience and their move-sets.

This tier-list is meant to be a guide for those not sure what to expect when playing a certain character. The tier-list takes into account: How easy is it to understand their kit, Are they hard to play OR are they just hard to master, mobility, survivability and whether figuring all these things out is fun with said character.

Quick Note: Support Nejire is my beginner friendly support recommendation. Otherwise, she shares the spot with her tech counterpart !

New Players: New to the game.

I actively update this list so please scroll to the bottom to see the recent changes in case a character has been moved !

[wanton glacier]

AIZAWA TOUGH LEARNING CURVE??

OFA DEKU IN HARDER FOR NEW PLAYERS???

[bold bone]

to play them at their best potential it takes commitment, awareness, and proper positioning

OFA deku will be confusing to new players, otherwise he has a slight learning curve to those used to complexity

[wanton glacier]

ah yes gamma and spamming r is so difficult

[wanton glacier]

if you have the slightest skill you can do well with him

also ''to play them at their best potential it takes commitment, awareness, and proper positioning'' that sounds like chatgpt said it

[bold bone]

"do well" and "most potential" are two different things and subjective

you can do well with any character if you have basic grasp of how to generally play. the difference is learning how to use his whole moveset rather then a few melee's or gamma's

if anything that proves my point that he has a slight learning curve because it seems nobody wants to put in the effort to do that

[wanton glacier]

all his moves have giant hitboxes

he has by far the most braindead character

[bold bone]

I disagree

[wanton glacier]

he has a alpha that instant knockdown and is the easiest thing too land

beta is also easy too land and does like 140 damage

and ofc ''OVERDRIVEEEEEE''

[wanton glacier]

also why tf is rapid bakugo in ''not hard to figure out''

[bold bone]

as much as I play the game I rarely run into OFA Deku's who actually seem to know what theyre doing

they usually just melee with trance blow or spam alpha's with sometimes beta's and thats usually it

as "easy" as they are to land people sure dont like to use them

[wanton glacier]

so you're saying a character isn't braindead bc the people who play him are braindead

amazing logic

you're now the lead dev of mhur

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397626772098383953/1490593278091853934/togif.gif

[bold bone]

if youre going to act like this you can leave

[wanton glacier]

dawg you're saying ofa deku isn't braindead

[bold bone]

he isn't

[wanton glacier]

💀

[bold bone]

people fear him for what

I've taken down OFA Deku's with Tokoyami

[wanton glacier]

he's top 3 character for a reason

[wanton glacier]

is that a flex?

💀

[bold bone]

no It's just a fact

[wanton glacier]

uhhhhh tokoyami counters ofa deku

bc of the shield and beta

[bold bone]

Tokoyami's shield is situational unless we're speaking 1v1

and his beta isn't hard to wait out

he doesn't counter OFA Deku the player is just stupidly aggressive or something lol

[wanton glacier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616150831623962648/1369955969928531978/caption.gif

[bold bone]

If anything Tokoyami's melee is what counters OFA Deku

[wanton glacier]

these people man 😭

anything too defend braindead characters

also why is rapid bakugo so high up

[bold bone]

as in he should be easier or harder?

[wanton glacier]

harder way harder

he's prob the hardest character too master

well monoma ig

maybe

also ibara should be in slight learning curve

[bold bone]

I don't think she deserves that because I rarely see people even use her, and the people that do probably spend a lot of time mastering her already

slight learning curve means more like theres a move or something about them that can be hard to get good at consistently

Ibara is the pinnacle of that unless again its a 1v1, but even then she's pretty predictable

[wanton glacier]

a character does 150+ per move 2 revives 400 health and only drawback is no mobility which could be fixed with tunings yea

def really skilled 😭

also heal on gamma

all her moves are really easy too land

[bold bone]

yet barely people play with her

thats just hype

its probably different in 1v1's, but I dont play that gamemode often so I'm mostly speaking team wise

[wanton glacier]

maybe bc people just don't care about the character

she's boring asf

that doesn't mean she's not strong

[bold bone]

yeah, but strong means nothing if you can't land anything properly and are up against a character who can keep their distance

[wanton glacier]

alpha has insane range

also every move is the easiest thing too land

[bold bone]

I dodge them with ease everytime Im up against her

[wanton glacier]

um ok?

[bold bone]

the only time she hits me is because Im distracted by a teammate

[wanton glacier]

cool

what about beta and gamma?

beta does like 220

[wanton glacier]

isn't there a after effect?

[bold bone]

not that I know of

I usually keep my distance from her so her moves barely reach me

the beta is annoying or whichever one does damage to your hp and gp

[wanton glacier]

in final circle it doesn't work

[wanton glacier]

gamma

[bold bone]

yeah that one is pretty insane

[wanton glacier]

also heals

also there's a TON of people slandering her

bc people saying she's weak while uhhhhh her only weakness is movement

wait i think i have something in the ultra rumble reddit

[bold bone]

I think Ibara is very strong, but I just don't struggle with her at least in team battles

you have to play her a certain way to utilize her good and like I said its predictable when you know how they play

[wanton glacier]

also uhhh the little thing called 2 REVIVES

why does she have 2 revives im still so confused

[bold bone]

idk why canonically shes able to do that

I guess because shes a support

[wanton glacier]

yea but 2????

[bold bone]

wait is she the one that puts them to full health or no

its just a normal 2 revives

[wanton glacier]

insant and can revive through walls

[wanton glacier]

no one does that....?

[bold bone]

are you sure?

I swear seeing someone who can do that

[wanton glacier]

yes?

[wanton glacier]

nope

[bold bone]

oh maybe Mr.Compress

but it isnt revive its while youre carrying them

[bold bone]

well Ill move her to slight learning curve, but if people dont care about her enough to want to play her that does factor into why I place her where I did

[wanton glacier]

nope

[bold bone]

the devs do have a habit of also buffing the hell out of people

that arent played much

[wanton glacier]

you need too carry for a long time

[wanton glacier]

yea people already hate ibara i don't think there gonna like some buffs too her

[bold bone]

as for Rapid Bakugo, I put him in not hard to figure out because he's well.. not hard to figure out imo lol

his moveset seems straight forward, but I did see that people struggle to land his moves and such

but otherwise he seems to have everything going for himself

[bold bone]

Ill reconsider Rapid Baku since I've been wanting to play as him

he just seems easy and fun to play, but moreso hard to master

oh and something else to note

the "harder for new players" is the middle ground for slight learning curve and not hard to figure out

the harder for new players spot is higher because its technically an extra layer for slight learning curve

[abstract kestrel]

Put rapid bakugo on the next tier

if your starting and you get him its hard to learn how to hit people

if you don't aim correctly

[bold bone]

alright

[bold bone]

alright I've shuffled some people around

[wanton glacier]

i'd say tech dabi is tough learning curve

you NEED positioning or you're dead

also put tamaki in slight learning curve

also move tsuyu up too for casual players she's really easy and prob has the easiest gp combo in the game

[bold bone]

yeah but shes fragile and not someone you can rush into battle without some thinking so I wouldn't consider her a casual play

maybe harder for new players so shes inbetween that and casual

[wanton glacier]

that's every rapid

just go in use alpha beta beta then leave with gamma

[bold bone]

not really

Ida doesnt need much thinking unless youre trying to do combos

he does good damage with two alphas or one good kick

[bold bone]

easier said than done unless backed up by a team/good distraction

shes more opportunist

[wanton glacier]

it is easy...

i main tsuyu

[wanton glacier]

so does tsuyu

[wanton glacier]

tsuyu does more

[bold bone]

yeah but shes short ranged and her only mobility is alpha and invisibility helps in some cases

Ida's whole kit offers him great mobility and offense with much more ease then Tsuyu

the only thing hard is his combos which you dont really need and arent that hard to learn

[wanton glacier]

with alpha you can go across half of the map

she's prob like top 5 in speed 😭

[wanton glacier]

well yea ida's whole thing is speed i think he's faster 😭

[bold bone]

Im going to move her down to harder for new players but I personally wouldnt call her casual

managing her health and knowing how to utilize her kit whether combos and revive take some practice for newcomers

[wanton glacier]

im considered a newcomer and she easy asf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397626772098383953/1490593278091853934/togif.gif

[bold bone]

easy doesnt mean casual

[wanton glacier]

casual means she's not hard too play

[bold bone]

yeah not hard to play with an overall good kit which she does have

but you can't pick her up and know her combos and how to navigate with her alpha well unless you practice

same with managing her health and invisibility as well

[wanton glacier]

alpha beta beta is hard?

i know 90% of the playerbase has the iq of a battery

but like she is not hard too play or master

[bold bone]

you can get punished doing that combo I've done it times before

it takes proper positioning

aka catching your opponent off guard

if its a 1v1 you arent going to get away with a lot of stuff Tsuyu players do because its quite predictable

for example the difference between her and electric guy I forget his name, but his gamma is really easy to hit and combo with

you press two buttons and can do a lot of damage with minimal work

only thing is lack of mobility, but fighting him can be scary (also his alpha can be laid out and take care of downed opponents with ease)

[bold bone]

how about this, Ill give her a few playthroughs and see but I remember struggling a bit with her

likely because she gets hard targetted

[jolly thunder]

Some things I'd change but tbh it's a decent list

[bold bone]

heres the most recent version

may I know what you think should be changed?

😭 the long typing

[jolly thunder]

Personally I would get rid off the braindead tier since we only call characters braindead cuz we deliberately pick them so we can push button and win.

Beginners however wouldn't understand that concept so it's not fair to say they love using brain dead characters. That's my logic anyway.

I'd put red bakugo into the casual tier cuz he's pretty straight forward like red kaminari.

But I agree with the rest of the list. I'd have to nit pick at your list if I REALLY wanted to be like that but overall it's good👍👍👍

There is a lot more to learning characters than just mobility and combos, positioning is super important too and I see those said characters have been put in the correct tiers🔥

[bold bone]

thank you

I tried my best to take into account every factor of battle to decide where characters would fall. Some character were hard to place because as simple as they are some require things like map knowledge, positioning and other things like that

[jolly thunder]

You did a very good job!

[bold bone]

thanks for the feedback really appreciate it

heres the new and improved list. removed the braindead tier and put all the types together for QOL

[jolly thunder]

I've never seen ppl put all the types together like that, I think I'll do that too for my future lists!

Also your welcome, I love being supportive ❤️

[bold bone]

the only ones Im still unsure about right now is the AFO's

Tech AFO's gamma is pretty good, but easy to dodge if you don't panic. The other moves I think are also pretty good, but he lacks mobility which is why I think he does have a slight learning curve

stealing quirks will definitely be something you consider more than the strike AFO who can fight well on his own

[jolly thunder]

I swapping tech afo and strike afo would be ok

Cuz strike afo is significantly easier to use

Tech afo has a large projectile but it functions really weird in terms of travel speed

He also NEEDS a mobility quirk otherwise he just gets bullied to death

[bold bone]

yeahh

[jolly thunder]

But then you need to be skill in 90 percent of the roster so you can confidently use the stolen quirks

Tech afo might be an advanced learning curve actually

Cuz he's quite situational until the final storm phase

[bold bone]

yeah because if you can't run into someone with a quirk you want you pretty much are left struggling

[jolly thunder]

Very tru

You have to be skilled enough to kill them too

And know his combos

[bold bone]

especially in 1v1s

team battles not as much

so yeah I think advanced learning curve is fair

[icy saffron]

I say rapid Deku in slight learning curve

[wanton glacier]

he got moved up

[icy saffron]

Oh yeah tokiyami should go down because he love being in the air and optimizing that while still being aware is hard

[bold bone]

tbh escaping with base tokoyami is day or night

even if you do have awareness it isn't hard to track him down while in the air

I put him in harder for new players though because some tunings can fix his mobility or enhance his melee both that significantly adds to him

the only way I can see him being moved to slight learning curve is managing dark shadow, learning his melee, shield and how to escape with his special action

😅 I've seen people calling Tokoyami easy to use but maining him I wouldn't say hes the easiest character

maybe its because again I decided to focus on his melee rather than mobility

[stray slate]

You lost me at tech shigaraki

[bold bone]

I meant to have him in harder for new players

oh tech

not assault

I get them mixed up

[bold bone]

lost how?

he personally doesnt seem that hard to use and his beta is a great mobility and attack move

all his moves seems flawless if you can position yourself well and have good accuracy

I dont see why he should be any harder if thats what youre implying

I can see an argument for slight learning curve, but learning how to land his move consistently personally don't seem that time consuming

[bold bone]

after playing with both Tsuyu and unlocking OFA Deku today, I now see what people are talking about

Tsuyu honestly is a casual play, almost beginner friendly I want to put her but she does take some thinking sometimes

OFA Deku's gear system isn't as confusing as I thought and his moves in action aren't complicated and arent very hard to hit

the only thing that'll take some time is his combos and landing his full beta and perhaps getting used to his mobility? also the fact that you have to overdrive in order to get your full gear as far as I know so I still stand by him being in hard for new players

he leans towards casual rather then learning curve though

[stray slate]

I was talking abt the first list i hopped on him and got his hardest badges really easy

His combos would mess with a new player though i agree

[bold bone]

I just realized I had rapid baku on my second account lol

I tried him out in area control battle and I can sort of see the problems he has, but Ill have to play with him in the main gamemode to accurately form an opinion

However, I feel advanced learning curve is pushing it for him from what Im seeing so may put him to slight learning curve

[quaint pulsar]

what if your using nejire as a genuine support focus and not to attack

[bold bone]

I would say a slight learning curve

because her alpha hitting her allies in my experience can be flimsy

especially if theyre an air fighter

her beta and gamma are mostly fine though, but not having them to defend yourself can make it hard to survive in battle I imagine without mobility tunings for her

basically I imagine her to be very situational if you're going full on support without tunings to help out

what makes her so good is her EASE in damage AND support

[bold bone]

okay nevermind rapid baku is staying in advanced

Shinso is right where he needs to be though

stupid alpha does most the work for him like bruh

[hybrid sparrow]

Idk get this list. Is it how hard for someone to learn and do well?
Like momo final tier, but ull see way less cems/kuros/red endys cause how hard it is to do well even if you know the character

And new cems are absolutely terrible and wont perform for example. They are free rainbows. So idk wat this list is supposed to be

[fathom folio]

Sorry if you've answered this but are these order from right to left, hardest to easiest in the category or are they interchangeable?

[bold bone]

the order has no intention but if someone wants to take my list and go that far they can. I just think thatll make it more.. time consuming to judge generally

Im in no position to do that anyway I havent played with all the characters lol

[bold bone]

Cementoss was originally in in tough learning curve but I moved him up then I added an extra catagory n never moved him

Im going to move him and red endeavor, but yellow endeavor seems more easier to learn and master imo

idk who kuro I dont know all the nicknames

[fathom folio]

Kurogiri.

[bold bone]

ohhh him

obscurity doesnt play a big part Im also going to remove that from the title

[fathom folio]

Obscurity means fewer people get to see them, and you can't steal techniques from them as a new player. It is decently relevant in my opinion.

[hybrid sparrow]

I still dont get the tierlist like what it really means

[bold bone]

okay what is the confusion

lets start there

[fathom folio]

Difficulty to learn a character at a high level.

[bold bone]

thats.. part of it

yes

hold on lemme get back to yall

Im busy right now

[bold bone]

my tier-list is supposed to be a more perceptive analysis of all the characters in the game. It isn't simply who's the best character or who's hard to learn, etc.

It is taking into account what a character can do, how long does it initially take to understand a character and commit to mastering their abilities, their flaws and how easily they can be fixed, all things like that

It's a much more complex tier list which is why feedback is very much needed because I haven't played with all these characters to know what the process is like for them

that's why I'm saying obscurity doesnt seem that relevant because if the obscure characters don't provide much value to AFO especially if they're hard to use then that gets confusing

because then AFO is tough learning curve even though theres many other characters with much easier movesets to steal

also, just because you barely see a character doesnt really mean they're hard to use it could mean they arent popular either moveset wise or character wise and I dont think its necessary to get into specifics about that because again it can get confusing and doesn't tell people about what to expect from a character. It's already implied they're a bit obscure if they're advanced or very tough

[bold bone]

also sorry this is the most recent list

[bold bone]

and a good example is Ibara because people say shes really strong, but obscure because she isn't the most popular character, sometimes relies on her allies and require awareness and knowledge of your surrondings/map

I originally had her in like slight learning curve and someone said she isn't all that so thats why I think its just.. eh as a factor

also the fact that they buff characters that arent used much like Present Mic who can shred damage easily

[fathom folio]

Every combo she has requires full understanding of the games mechanics, so I disagree with the placement personally.

And she is team reliant only when your outside in a wide open area.

[bold bone]

yeah thats what I meant

so you disagree with.. where she was originally or where she is now?

because I personally think shes advanced

[fathom folio]

Where she is now, I'd say she is in the Tough or Advanced Learning Curve section offensively.

Although she doesn't require tuning for good damage.

[bold bone]

alright shes in advanced

any other objections?

[fathom folio]

To properly give you an example, you need to know the area of her alpha to hit with to get two of them off in a row without a hard knockdown, along with when to alpha to allow your allows to continue their combo with a restand.

[bold bone]

right

Minty is the one you can argue to about that though lmao

I originally had her in tough actually

they told me to move her up to slight

idk why I put her in hard for new players 🤣

[fathom folio]

She has the slowest base movement speed in the game and wall runner outright kills her a lot of the time because of how her moves work. She is also a major dpser and playing against one that is unorthodox, hyper aggressive, is a death sentence for most players.

Lady was an outright counter to Tech Shiggy when he came out, but only if you knew her tech and how her super armor worked.

[bold bone]

since you mentioned stealing techniques I assume you disagree with the placements of AFO's or Monoma?

[fathom folio]

AFO combos are difficult to do for most people, same with Monoma, so I don't see an issue where they are personally.

The AFO base kit is super easy to use though.

As in not doing anything special.

[bold bone]

I assume Tech AFO lol

[fathom folio]

Yeah, Strike is just a garbage character, objectively. Almost no damage and 0 super armor on his one good move.

[bold bone]

really? strike afo?

that sounds like a hot-take

[fathom folio]

Not really, his Alpha knocks down too quickly, his Beta is only useful indoors, and his Gamma only hits if the enemy doesn't have any downpower above 100 with their moves.

He gets knocked back on the first hit of Ibara beta while he's using his gamma, which is absolutely insane.

[bold bone]

you'd think his gamma would be practically impenetrable

[fathom folio]

*All types btw.

[fathom folio]

Or you know do damage to Ibara when she uses her gamma on it. Jesus, Strike Bakugo even hits with one or two ticks when using his gamma on you. I meter the amount of super armor you have based on if Ibara can gamma you while you use said move.

[bold bone]

yeah that sounds like it sucks

or well, situational

[fathom folio]

It is really good when you have the jump on someone.

[bold bone]

so would you say young AFO and strike AFO are on the same level then?

you make him sound a bit harder to use

[fathom folio]

Not really, his kit is decently simple. He just isn't a solo character because his damage possibilities are low.

[bold bone]

I see

I'm surprised nobody disagrees with the beginner friendly type catagory yet

[bold bone]

oh and by the way, would you like me to try and do that? maybe not in order like everyone, but by types so its easier

so for example itll be tsuyu versus rapid all might

I can try to do that, but having everyone compete will just only cause debates lmao

tsuyu vs rapid all might is already hard because its honestly playstyle

[wanton glacier]

Space hop gamma does 280 damage and heals

For me the main problem is 2 revives

[graceful ice]

I like this

Putting the most recent one at the bottom

[shell juniper]

id move twice to slight learning curve because with his buffed gamma he can do all your gp with 1 combo

just my opinion thats all

and id move strike shoto to casual

bc hes easy to use

[fathom folio]

Space Hop? Why would you use anything other than the Fixer build though?

[shell juniper]

we talkin abt Ibara bc its not that she's op but more so that most ppl don't know how to deal with her

bc me personally Ive never had a problem fighting Ibara even with characters that she hard counters like yellow kiri

[wanton glacier]

She's not that hard to deal with but she doesn't need that much skill just need some positioning

[wanton glacier]

If movement is her biggest issue then why are you choosing more damage over it🥹

[wanton glacier]

Also i hate that cementoss ibara and froppy combo

I wish anybody who uses that will burn in hell

[wanton glacier]

Yes twin🥹

[prisma delta]

Twice takes more skill than Aizawa to run like if your life depends on it and make your time reaction from 0.6 into 0.4

[bold bone]

the recent list has Twice being harder then Aizawa

[bold bone]

though they just said move twice to the same spot as Aizawa so seems like theres something you two need to dispute

[bold bone]

not for new players because it may take time for them to properly get comfortable using his beta and gamma which don't seem the easiest to hit

you got to put in some work to properly utilize his moveset both offensively and defensively

and I dont see strike shoto's often to be honest so theres that

[tame python]

ima be so real, i would move twice into the next tier.

[fathom folio]

Because if their dead, how am I supposed to die myself? Even without Alpha buffs her Alpha does around 160 or so by itself. Along with being able to get two off at the same time when an opponent is in the air.

Or hitting twice smacking them hitting them against a wall.

[wanton glacier]

if that's your point her movement doesn't sound like a big issue

[fathom folio]

The slow speed of her movement is definitely a crutch but I absolutely hate how it interacts with her set.

[fathom folio]

That said, I am still waiting on the character tickets to get her acceleration. I would like to clarify, upward mobility is my issue with her.

[icy saffron]

I agrée the most here

[bold bone]

move twice to tough learning curve everyone?

[graceful ice]

Twice is kinda easy for me idk

Gamma gamma beta is a good combo

[bold bone]

@icy saffron @fathom folio @wanton glacier @prisma delta @shell juniper @stray slate @quaint pulsar @jolly thunder

[icy saffron]

dont got enough knowledge to be doing that

[prisma delta]

I vote for YES

[bold bone]

so is that a thumbs down or thumbs up

I think the majority here will be saying yes

[graceful ice]

Guess so

They need to bring his melee combo back tbh that was fun to do

[bold bone]

also if anyone knows any people who main any characters and like tier lists or ranking dont feel afraid to bring them here

I want this to be like a definitive list

[icy saffron]

I think he prob need another nerf-devs

Could you give me the website

[bold bone]

for my tier list?

[icy saffron]

I wanted to use it for like a area control skil/good tier list

[bold bone]

https://tiermaker.com/create/my-hero-ultra-rumble-mhur-season-9-16971568

[icy saffron]

This my personal agreement on area control meta

[stray slate]

My goat tenya always in b

Tuff tenya💔

[stray slate]

Id say yeah

[bold bone]

I would say strike denki is B tier

assault all might is probably C tier

[tame python]

tech dabi would be A at lowest

[bold bone]

I can see that

I can see the potential with strike endeavor so probably B tier?

either B or C

Rapid Hawks probably A tier

[bold bone]

move tech denki to may be hard for new players?

his moveset doesn't seem as complicated as I thought

[wanton glacier]

Strike denki is a tier🥹

[bold bone]

I think Tech Denki does it better then Strike

[wanton glacier]

Nuh uh

I love gamma while there not looking and doing 500 damage

[bold bone]

meh

that's really it though, I just think tech denki brings more to the table then that

his alpha alone can control a battle pretty well

if youre inside no problem he has his beta and gamma to rely on

strike denki can't really do that I feel he really relies on positioning and catching people off guard which isn't exactly reliable for area control

[lapis zephyr]

strike denki is a nightmare one zap for guard break and half your health while you have to run to not get oneshot while you can easily catch the purple denki if he keeps his position after firing

[icy saffron]

Yeah but what he gonna do to a must run momo

[icy saffron]

They both prob quiet golf

[icy saffron]

Here skill area control I feel

[jolly thunder]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Maybe...?

I personally don't think he's that hard to understand

[shell juniper]

same

[bold bone]

so why did you vote yes

[shell juniper]

tbh idk earlier I said he was not hard though cuz of his op combo

[bold bone]

okay so 4 disagree

[shell juniper]

ig idk hes kinda a niche char

hard to place

[bold bone]

I think where he was, was fine

[shell juniper]

maybe

[bold bone]

because putting him in slight is saying he's around the same skill level as Tenya Ida

[shell juniper]

ye

[bold bone]

I'll put him in slight learning curve for now

[shell juniper]

alr

[rich rover]

interesting

i wouldnt put a character with a counter in beginner friendly. Counters are knowledge checks, so new players will mess them up WAY more

also, there's a lot of beamers in lower tiers. those guys are built to be new player friendly

[wanton glacier]

Just hold alpha

You can't be hit 90% of the fight so you don't need dodge

[rich rover]

Mirio Alpha is a management game in itself from what I hear. Iunno

[wanton glacier]

That is the most bs statment ever heard

[rich rover]

That might be the most bs statement I've ever heard 🐝

[wanton glacier]

🤔

[bold bone]

compared to other tech types? Mirio is the easiest to understand and utilize his full kit in my opinion without much risk in dying

[rich rover]

hmm. good points. still think his Gamma and Alpha make him take complexity to utilize well. maybe im thinking off a different basis

[bold bone]

I mean he's the easiest tech type you got lmao

[rich rover]

Nejire 😔

or is she high up because she has to lead her Alpha a little?

[bold bone]

her only mobility is her special action and that takes good management

her beta can sometimes be risky to land safely

and her alpha is okay from what I remember

[rich rover]

yeah i think im thinking of a different ruleset then 😭

i was thinking overall complexity and skill ceiling

[bold bone]

ah

well yeah the tier list is basically that but also taking into account outside factors like map knowledge

obviously, Nejire is best played outside not inside

whereas Tech Mirio can handle both environments well

making him more versatile

stuff like that

[rich rover]

hm

yeah

Nejire does need good positioning

Mirio is easier to use well, but he requires a lot of knowledge on when he can get the most of his moves. still easy to succeed with

[bold bone]

even if youre like super super new to playing games, you'll instantly get "Oh, Mirio has invincibility while I use this move? lemme abuse it"

"oh his underground move makes him invincible too, phase through stuff and hit people? lemme abuse that as well"

while with Nejire its like bruh she fly well thats fun

this game will not show her mercy though

at least with Mirio you can defend yourself

Nejire is like a knife

while Mirio is a gun

[sand badger]

PUT COMPRESS TO BRAIN DEAD

[wanton glacier]

🥹

[bold bone]

hey guys

after being able to play as more characters and gain more experience I've shifted my opinion on a few people

lemme know what you guys think?

@rich rover@quaint pulsar@fathom folio@stray slate@lapis zephyr@graceful ice@wanton glacier@sand badger@prisma delta@shell juniper@icy saffron@jolly thunder Vote to move Tokoyami and Assault Kendo to Slight Learning Curve?

[graceful ice]

Kendo can be easy but to be good with her is kinda hard cause the melee combos

Tokoyami isn't that hard

[wanton glacier]

nuh uh my king tokoyami needs too be skilled

[stray slate]

Tokoyami is simple

[graceful ice]

Id put kendo there but keep tokoyami

[rich rover]

I disagree with the list so much 😭

My input won't match what you want at all

[jolly thunder]

Hmmmmm nah. They are both very easy to execute especially tokoyami. Yellow kinda however is a bit more situational as positioning is crucial but understanding good positioning is quick to get the hang of if you really care about learning it

[rich rover]

Tokoyami is extremely technical and should near the top of the list

[graceful ice]

I do think Iida should move up a spot or two though

They can just press alpha 3 times

[rich rover]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[jolly thunder]

I meant put them in slight learning curve, whoops

[jolly thunder]

I guess I can figure out a person's skill level quite quickly by asking questions like these huh...

[bold bone]

Ida has been moved to harder for new players

[rich rover]

Im a genius, so you weaklings have no clue of the level of play i can accomplish

[bold bone]

Ill keep Tokoyami and Kendo where they were

I think we can agree if you've played the game for a while once you play as Kendo and Tokoyami you'll have an idea of how to play them

versus playing with them straight off the bat

[jolly thunder]

Tokoyami is honestly spam melee and beta to win lol

[rich rover]

Tokoyami is a whole lotta resource management idk 🤔

I dont have anything good to say lol

[jolly thunder]

Melee. Has no resource management and tracking on par with rapid deku

With special action on that is

[jolly thunder]

He can also fly across the map

[bold bone]

Tokoyami with no tunings can be tricky

[jolly thunder]

With ease

[bold bone]

to play as if you dont have much experience with him

[jolly thunder]

But once u get the hang of it he's honestly simple

But has weakness

And matchups

[bold bone]

yeah thats why I think harder for new player

I dont think hes casual, but not that hard to learn either

[jolly thunder]

Oh no ofc not

But this community has a fat skill issue so I guess u can keep him where he is

[rich rover]

Tokoyami fun af

[bold bone]

I do feel like Assault Kendo should be in slight learning curve if Im being honest

[rich rover]

Gamma and SpA adding some much versatility and complexity 🔥

[rich rover]

Bait and Clap

[jolly thunder]

Indeed, very cool character design

[bold bone]

I tried playing as her and.. yeah having no mobility on her is a toughy

the shield is easy to counter and her alpha is good up-close

as simple as she looks, with no tunings I think she can be a bit hard to play with well

[jolly thunder]

Yep she seriously needs a competent team to function.

And the community has a fat skill issue. So you're either 3 stacking or cooked

Or my friend summer😛

[bold bone]

also Ibara

I didnt have much confrontation with her before

but after seeing her

I understand the dislike now

that alpha is ridiculous

[bold bone]

is there anyone else on the list you personally play as that you feel is incorrectly placed?

[jolly thunder]

Lemme have a look

[bold bone]

I recently moved both toga's

to slight learning curve

[jolly thunder]

Fairs

I'd say rapid might can go to beginner friendly

His beta and game both have tracking

And missing many alphas is not very punishing as you have armour and dmg reduction

[bold bone]

yeah that grab is so stupid

tbh I like the list now

I was facepalming so hard when I decided to try out Rapid Hawks

bro is not easier then Froppy😭

and a lot of people say OFA Deku is casual

or easy to play

so I decided to just put him there

[bold bone]

Lady Nagant got nerfed but I think she can stay where she is

Assault Deku got some buffs though

so not sure where to place him now

maybe casual now

[jolly thunder]

Yh probably

But see I don't have a fat skill issue

Which is why I say that

So u should probably ask some other ppl about that one

[bold bone]

I watch Charismatic Demon's videos and when he played as Assault Deku he pretty much described him as similar to Froppy

they're both great at what they do but not the best

though I think Froppy is easier then Assault Deku

so I think its fair Assault Deku is casual

[rich rover]

These people must've reached a higher being of functioning. Im beyond lost 🤩

[bold bone]

Ill ask the main chat who they think is easier

[rich rover]

Maybe Denki* is easier? Alpha tracking does a lot of work 😔

[bold bone]

oh god theres gonna be an argument

[bold bone]

alright new and improved listing everyone

[sand badger]

COMPRESS IS A BARIN DEAD CHARACTER UNLESS YOU HAVE ACTUAL COMBOS?!?!

[bold bone]

at best hes casual but I would say Nejire is more fun and supportive then him so I put her beginner friendly

[bold bone]

also Compress isn't entirely braindead, his beta is easily avoidable and his alpha requires positioning

also utilizing his special action is hit or miss

so ultimately using him well has some learning curve to it

I wouldnt put him in the same catagory as Ida

you can make an argument for it though idk I may move some people around

[jolly thunder]

Compress is indeed in the correct tier

[icy saffron]

Yellow Deku beginner now?

[bold bone]

its because the game markets him as a beginner character

so people keep saying thats why he belongs there

idk between him, endeavor and ochaco whos easier

[icy saffron]

Ochaco prob easier ngl

She have good mobility and everything

[jolly thunder]

To be honest, with a 140dmg alpha shot and 2 armoured 180dmg betas, he's a VERY simple character

[graceful ice]

New players won't know what to combo with gamma so it doesn't knock, or that you can combo with gamma at all

Hitting beta under level 7 could be harder for newer players too

[icy saffron]

Still she got good movement and ease of use of ability

[graceful ice]

Also that her alpha isn't supposed to be used mainly for damage

I see a lot of ochacos trying to shoot me with it

[icy saffron]

She who i used when i started of

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