Fumikage Tokoyami

[mossy musk]

melee is where he puts in work just gotta get used to constantly turnin special action on and off and never let it hit zero

[foggy python]

He’s got this one

He’s also got grounded melee projectile -> full melee combo if you catch someone not paying attention while you’re in Ankh. It isn’t true but the extra projectile gets you some extra damage

[mossy musk]

air melee is my favorite when they decide to run

[foggy python]

Tokoyami has air melee loops in general though if you can get one it’s good damge

And if you wanna be REALLY annoying go into Ankh while your teammate is comboing someone since grounded melee projectiles have like no down power

You’ll be adding a lot of +50 damage hits to the combo

[bold flare]

Or just don't have him 💔

Also W surtr

[foggy python]

This is a true

[foggy python]

I’ve only played Arknights: Endfield so I know very little about Surtr but Laevatain is peak

[bold flare]

I play og and also know little about surtr

But she cool

[foggy python]

Laevatain’s story quest was so good…

Absolute cinema

[neat olive]

Interesting, I knew about beta cancel but adding 4 aerials got me

Guard break only happens with embrittlement, right?

[foggy python]

Most likely yeah

[neat olive]

From 40 to 44 to each melee adds a lot to the paper, never thought of that

Giving wall runner for embrittlement simply doesn’t add up to me

[foggy python]

Both are good options on him I'd say

[neat olive]

If he had a skin with wall runner 11 and embrittlement then that would be the perfect skin

Casual combat still the best one for me, for now

And since I don’t have ofa, I need to use perception on slot 10 😔

[foggy python]

Same

Wall Runner and Acceleration is too good

[foggy python]

😔

Acceleration is a trip once you get it

[neat olive]

Special melee 1 - deactivate into aerial 1 two times becomes true with accel

That combo is my favorite at the moment

[foggy python]

That is another combo yeah it's great

[neat olive]

Needed the speed card + the height for it to work

His aerial melee is one of my favorites but on HP it needs speed due to my ping

[foggy python]

Yeah makes sense it's hard to hit already even with good ping without Acceleration

Need that good timing

[floral zinc]

i remember u used to play red todo lol but, i need advice bc i just roll for tokoyami and i want to start playing him so what’s the best playstyle, tunning etc for this character

[neat olive]

I still play red todo lmao but tokoyami it’s versatile as it is, the best tunes at the moment are his casual default, combat and dark armor fancy, which all of them can run wall runner or acceleration if you like

People normally tend to play Melee based, but he is so fun when adapting to all skills mid game

Tunes I recommend are
Wall runner for mobility, special action control and movement activation
Acceleration for faster combos
High speed replenishment for fast heals behind your shields
Embrittlement or iron fist for increased damage, run both for higher damage
Fixer buffs his good passive tune slots, it’s good overall if your skin has good slots below fixer

The only tune I don’t recommend is trance blow
Trance blow are not as good as you think, even though it works on every melee character, dropping combos for easier hits it’s not worth it, that’s less down power and it means all combos are dropping before any hit connects

If you manage to control your special action and avoid draining to 0, that’s a awesome bonus

There are other tunes I can recommend on, but that’s gonna be for now, those the best ones for me at the moment

[floral zinc]

THANK U SO MUCH and i lmao, im glad u still play him 😭😭

[mossy musk]

acceleration build is fun

[neat olive]

Of course! Still maining both till the end, lmk if you need anything else!

[floral zinc]

matter i fact i do, so basically when it comes to fights what do i go for with tokoyomai, and with certain match ups ?

[neat olive]

Normally you create pressure with beta and combo with alpha, mostly that’s half shield, then get ready to activate special and guarantee guard break with your melee

You can also force the first hit of the special action melee to create a projectile

The hitbox is so high that it’s almost impossible to miss

Now about matchups

He struggles against aerial encounters, since he needs up close pressure for his melee combos, and alpha/beta doesn’t go very far as they think it does

That’s why I recommend wall runner, with one jump and special you can practically reach flying characters easily

And start pressuring them with the aerial melee projectiles

Always remember to force the shield to break in case you’re rushing them down, his gamma takes way too long to reload completely if it doesn’t reach 0

The complete opposite of his special action

And when doing special flying with his hold, always do with the black ankh on

Since it reduces the initial activation cost

Correct me if I’m wrong, but from 50% it gets reduced to 40-42

I play heavily on wall runner and aerial but mixing all skills is pretty fun

[floral zinc]

Thank u soo much, this a lot of info that i really needed, also when it comes beamers, do u use gamma more often ?

[neat olive]

gamma and wall runner movement

they can hit the shield, but not me

[floral zinc]

😂😂 that makes sense lol thank ya ,thank ya

[neat olive]

y welcome!

[floral zinc]

oh yea, one more thing do i use auto dash or just toggle bc i play on controller and i use toggle everytime try to latch on to the wall to wall runner tokoyami glide comes out

[neat olive]

i play on toggle since i'm used to getting the timing everytime i do wall runs

and one hint so you can use wall runner better on tokoyami?

-# hold aim when latching on walls

that alone denies the flying wings

i do that everytime i make wall runs

since i don't like auto dash, but auto dash does that better

feel fry to try both and see which one fits better for your gameplay

[floral zinc]

omg i didn’t even know that lol, i will mostly likely use toggle bc same with u, im used to it

[errant leaf]

Y it take this long for someone to mention that. Sugoi

Also , not that I play, but a tip i thought of: knowing when to just go for grounded melees over air. I think full sa ground is more dmg?

[neat olive]

It does, full grounded does 170 to 180, aerial only does 134-144
My recommendation it’s sa melee 1 - into normal aerial two times, on shield does more damage than just full sa grounded

there is also this one

Not sure if someone already did or if this is optimal, but i like it

probably not since one beta tick does less damage than one aerial 🤔

[floral zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-thumbs-up-approve-anime-gif-8680585

@neat olive i’m starting to get the hang of tokoyami lol, i really appreciate ur help i have been dropping 5+ kos majority of my matches and my highest with him right now is like 13 kos

^^this match was good but obviously not my best 🫡

[neat olive]

Awesome then, glad I could help!

[strong carbon]

Tokoyami is da goat

[upper nebula]

my GOD this character is incredible

[upper nebula]

anyone got any good tuning build recommendations

[floral zinc]

i 100% agree lol, but i would run wall runner and perception, or u could run acceleration and wall runner. tbh there is a good amount of stuff u could run but i seriously wouldn’t recommend trance blow please dont. it will ruin ur combos and ur going to do last damage, but at least have either acceleration or wall runner and the other slot u could put whatever u want. the reason why because it will help ur movement with tokoyami and u will be able to chase this rapids and aerial characters

[upper nebula]

I'm ngl I've been running hyper regen and reinforced revive on abyss armour maybe this is why im stuck in expert II 😭

[floral zinc]

yea 😭😭, i mean if it was working for u that would be cool but yea i would try out wall runner just look at this gameplay of gabbis, (he is the one who help me out lol)

[oblique vessel]

what is the goat's best tunings ? (talking about tokoyami the goat)

[floral zinc]

this ^

[upper nebula]

noted noted

[upper nebula]

I've tried wall runner and this is lowk fun as hell

unless I'm on the USJ map then i switch back to hyper regen

[neat olive]

wall runner is just the best tune all game, at least for me

after i got acceleration + wall run the games is even more fun

[upper nebula]

Once I roll OFA Deku I'll consider that

[neat olive]

i got accel after 1 entire month 😭

i also don't have ofa deku

was stuck with 81 cards

for one month

literally lucky lmao

[upper nebula]

I'll roll OFA deku eventually

[slow canyon]

Acceleration is one of those Tunings that's pretty universally great so yeah definitely worth pulling for.

[grim marsh]

He should be coming back next szn so be prepared

[upper nebula]

i finally rolled OFA deku and soon i will try out the acceleration + wallrun build

does it matter whether I place OFA deku into the lv 11 or 10 slot or either or makes little to no impact

[upper nebula]

my god this tuning combo feels disgusting

[jovial topaz]

acc + spiral jump

synergy very well with each other

[neat olive]

never thought about that-

not sure if it is worth it dropping high speed rep or fixer for that, but if it works, great then

[grand minnow]

what ive been saying

my day 1 build for him, still is so amazing

[grand minnow]

definetly worth dropping fixer for spiral

[neat olive]

yeah, fair enough, fixer skins aren't that good

just realized that

[woven owl]

do you have gameplay of that?

[tall sierra]

Got tokoyami last second last season, so glad I didn't listen to my friends saying he's mid

Might genuinely get to main level

[mossy musk]

mid my ahh

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-pointing-pointing-finger-car-wheel-gif-2572264087411888860

you have to learn his mechanics it takes a lot and the right tuning is a must he's a goat

[floral zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/tokoyami-boku-no-hero-boku-no-hero-academia-my-hero-academia-season5-gif-24650419

yea tokoyami is hell funn and i love him but i used to main ochaco for SOO long but now it’s tokoyami

[tall sierra]

Mhur players when a character requires knowing how to use their skillset correctly 😨

[tall sierra]

And it helps that i fw tokoyami in the anime

[mossy musk]

same.for me with ofa deku lol now i have 4 diff toko builds

[upper nebula]

"Tokoyami is mid" mfs when my alpha hits them from an ungodly distance away for the 3rd time in a row

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-breaking-glass-when-the-opponent-joonsproof-gif-25498015

[slow canyon]

Tokoyami is refreshingly one of the most balanced mfs they ever made which is what I like about him.

If you lose to one, it was just because the other guy played better and that it was a good game

[upper nebula]

Honestly real

He's an amazing character and yet still balanced

[neat olive]

literally fully ggs

most balanced character between the recent ones

[upper nebula]

in a game full of nagants, OFA Dekus and Star and Stripes

Strive to be a tokoyami

[ornate forge]

I got his armor of the abyss skin and wonder which to potentially get for tuning builds

[mossy musk]

lol i have 4 dif builds

acceleration build is what most go for

but

my absolute favorite is trance blow and every melee tune possible

with three special act reloads

gaurds broke in one melee combo

[ornate forge]

Damn
Im currently running trance blow on Heat rare skin

And vengeance tech

Which skill order do you recommend upping? I do beta alpha gamma usually

also hes the only character with who i can reliably climb i guess 😭 but also like probs the enemies werent good

[ornate forge]

....
i think this would be far worse - just dk whether or not to put sns instead of mic's
(it's all dreams that are possible unexpectedly. yes. with trance blow????)

in this costume

im.
that's.
5-6 melee dmg+
potentially 2-3 SA reload+

and you can do 2 support ones of your choosing. and potentially put hyper regen on the tech big slot

DESPITE not having all of that. dear god. 👀👀👀

And i've been running with this

i'll try to build this. and it'll probably be a monster...

yeah you can only get to like. 3 melee+ and 3 SA cdr if you try to run with accel

[ornate forge]

What do you think about it though? ^^

[neat olive]

for me? one of the worst red tunes out there, just ruins combos, the most fun part about him
i can understand people using on ofa deku since his melee is broken ( even though it's not needed ), but on tokoyami there are way better options to pick

breaking combos for more opportunities it's not worth it, you're sacrificing tunes like crushing pu charge and even willpower for second chances

if "reducing down power" wasn't a thing from trance blow, then could be a top tier option

but for now? even on low level skins, willpower, crushing pu charge, ability manifest and even kota finder are better options

and there's team combos options too, you're applying trance blow and then no teammate can combo of that for a set time

[ornate forge]

I see 🤔

[ornate forge]

It though seems to be a crazy overkill to get 6 melee dmg + cards and 2 SA cdr. More or less what do you think about that?
Eitherwise then I think I can just start the build bc I dont need trance blow at all (bc yes im noticing the effects sadly and im not a huge fan of it, though it's wonky helpful?)
Thanks!!

[neat olive]

melee tunes works perfectly, i'm not a fan of using since i'm more of his skills tunes, so i'm always using alpha attack power instead of melee tunes, but if works, then that's perfect
now about reload tunes, i made some calculations and asked a friend about reload tunes and turns out they're not as helpful as we think, they only reduce 0.1 to 0.2 seconds on most of the charges and % out there

trance blow can indeed work sometimes due to how easy it is to catch their wake up frames, but it's so slow that we're losing 25/50% of his DMG potential

players can slow their wake up so that's 3-4 seconds of trance blow gone

my main skin nowadays is this one and i replaced accel with perception

-# accel it's too broken lmao it got boring pretty fast

and the other one i use fixer as well!

[ornate forge]

rip

I'll definitely try this ngl, i got it partially already but it's gonna be a project which isnt too bad for a newbie like me
I do love his melee
Also, i'll try to check if his "aerial" part of melee triggers Trance blow

[neat olive]

if you're talking about his projectile, then no

[ornate forge]

i see
It's a very unexpected but satisfying part of his kit ngl

[ornate forge]

Didnt buy the pass so I don't got access to those sadly

[mossy musk]

ouch

[neat olive]

makes sense, he's the first character to change melee properties mid game

[mossy musk]

ull get in time

sry was workin

trance is goated

they cannot move if u have his timing right

more important they cant escape

but dabble with whatever u like

[mossy musk]

this would be a good nagant build

[ornate forge]

she melees?!

[mossy musk]

na meaning special tuning slot

alpha build

who do u have character data wise

[ornate forge]

ah you missed with reply sorry

[mossy musk]

oops

[ornate forge]

me i've spent everything already regarding my build with desired parts above in separate screenies

[mossy musk]

hyper reg for purp villian special tuning for sure

ooooh ok

[ornate forge]

got it, hyped for it. it does sound best ngl. i got 71 of it

[mossy musk]

hp good as well

it is

especially with toko

[ornate forge]

i needa get more present mic parts to potentially tune PU charge w bakugo in special slot 1

And then i need rapid might + ofa deku parts

[mossy musk]

alpha build

[ornate forge]

and potentially i'll get AFO for a ticket and put his special cdr on the right

[mossy musk]

melee

[ornate forge]

Also potentially wanted to get support nejire parts for +gp +hp

[mossy musk]

def but you necessarily dont have to ticket her

ull aquire over time

[ornate forge]

agreed

[mossy musk]

throw a filler in until u do

[ornate forge]

but i think this is the best build i'd make

I only have resist heat remaining for special slot 1

👀 ✨

talking about his skillset i like beta the most

bc it can catch people, and you need a lotta reload on it favorly

[mossy musk]

special tuning slots require lil over 100 char data compared to normal tunin

[ornate forge]

yup

thats why im going for putting PU crushing there bc i own bakugo

[mossy musk]

beta good i like slingin alphas cuz they travel over everything

alpha shield beta shield alpha etc

[ornate forge]

66/100 willpower, 30/100 kendo, 45/100 kota finder

Yea. And I have seen ppl be able to do the quick dash to side, throw alphas, and repeat

[mossy musk]

will power good and strike dabi works well

[ornate forge]

How speedy is revive then?

[mossy musk]

in the end its up to u and ur preference I suggest try this and that

speedy lol

[ornate forge]

Given that I tend to stick to people and get into situations I cannot really escape, it's really PU crushing only.
Bc I cannot heal with willpower potentially

[mossy musk]

willpower is ok but if i relize ur willpower actives im callin out and we chasing lol

activates

[ornate forge]

And hyper regen is 76, mic 36

[mossy musk]

hyper where its at

[ornate forge]

True ig

Hyper regen is tech shiggy, for special slot 2

And yeah I think this will work best

[mossy musk]

ull like it

[ornate forge]

With pu charges

[mossy musk]

well go test drive it lol

[ornate forge]

I've been enjoying my mid build before, I'll definitely enjoy such massive power XD

So excited! But I need a lil break

I think wasting my rolls was worth it for such menace

[mossy musk]

lol exhausting doin the leg work

[ornate forge]

I wasted them on tech shiggy banner in hopes of getting both him and Kurogiri skin

Got what i needed to buy this Dangerous skin instead

[mossy musk]

ngl id be hot if i got abyss armor now

lol

[ornate forge]

Haha realest real. I got everything rated up from Tokos banner in prev season bc I digged pity for Kurogiri.
Like 3-5 same Dabi skins, 1 Shiggy, ... So many. And maybe twice got Afos knight armor skin.
And got toko from 40 pulls. So i think this was indeed desired fate

It was my favorite theme banner ngl.

Everything. EVERYTHING WAS PURPLE!!

And thats solely why im getting afo potentially nonetheless bc i doubt ill hit pity for his new skillset

[ornate forge]

Hmmm, do you perhaps know for sure if hp and gp dmg upping cards are more valuable than technically just melee dmg cards instead?

[mossy musk]

no they not

exept for toko really

use mikes if anything

but ur special action runs out ur cooked

[terse dome]

real
they need to reduce the penalty cd

[neat olive]

Nope, hp and gp only increases dmg by 1-2 points on max levels, strike cards tend to increase that value by a lot, compared to them, it’s by 4-6 depending on strike teammates and cards

Now if we’re talking about melee tunes, then it’s the same as gp/hp

The value doesn’t have a difference in comparison

Just throw both if needed

[mossy musk]

mikes only because of special reload. and ive won by 1-2 hp his dmg in special action form while having all melee tunes help drastically

either way tinker wijth whatever way u wanna go. to each is there own unless bein wasteful with data

[ornate forge]

Tbf i just unlikely to get sns pieces enuff, and its a red thingy

I have spare tech slot

[ornate forge]

Seems to be universal gp hp dmg buffs are better on other chars?

[neat olive]

Not the same scaling, depends on the damage% mostly

So yes

[ornate forge]

Hmmm. So skill specific dmg+ builds are better?

Im confused rip

I think it was drastically better with those gp hp dmg buffs on kurogiri

Plus ngl they're on yellow slots mostly

[neat olive]

Yup, when I say damage% I mean depending on the skill scaling, some can scale harder than others

Like tokoyami’s melee dealing less damage with melee tunes when you try scaling with shoto, that’s one example

Melee scaling are different compared to skill scaling

[ornate forge]

Try scaling with shoto as in?..

[neat olive]

Melee*

In comparison

They have melee damage% that scales different

HP/GP scales with everything, while melee only scales with melee, that one you already knows, but sometimes they scale harder compared with HP/GP due to damage%

[ornate forge]

Ooo. Got it

[neat olive]

Like one increasing 1/2 points and the other one doing 3/4 points

[ornate forge]

Yea that would be stonks. And Kurogiri's gamma has like double dipping

[neat olive]

And there is the HP defense factor, assault team factor, melee defense factor, and much more

You can go on a match expecting melee to have double damage because of tunes or strike cards

And there is opponents using those defense tunes or having assault teammates + cards

So we can’t never expect a fixed damage

Just go with it as you have fun

[ornate forge]

True

[ornate forge]

Crazy d fence someday lol

Tank Afo in pink costume, total fun LMAO

[tall sierra]

Electrification on tokoyami is insane

I'm running wall runner and electrification but I'm thinking of making a pure melee build and a team support build based around heals and saving

Since I've been getting a lot of saves as tokoyami

[upper nebula]

Reinforced revive is good in that case

As for pure melee highly suggest wall runner and acceleration along with a lotta melee buffing moves (and SpA reload)

[floral zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/tentofate-elmo-elmo-staring-gif-11901234066681497328

u definitely could honestly, but pls pls pls DON’T use trance blow… if u do i KNOW what u are

[upper nebula]

^

Never use trance blow

[neat olive]

That’s my team right there

❤️

[pallid pecan]

did he get faster

[upper nebula]

Sometimes Tokoyami genuinely feels like he's faster than everybody who's name isnt Iida

So i wouldn't be surprised if his speed got shadowbuffed

[neat olive]

Don’t forget your overall speed can be increased when there is rapid teammates

I think run speed also increases that but I’m not sure

[ornate forge]

I've never known specifics of what do mhur augments do. Much like, does Run speed+ do anything if I'm gliding with his passive??

Also wanted to ask what are good potential teammates for tokoyami, and battle plans. Like I love to chase ppl until they're KOd, and need teammates that can possibly catch up with me bc Toko is pretty fast, and save me from trouble if the chased person ran into a diff team

[neat olive]

i never searched for possible answers, but on my mind, run speed increases the speed to start the walking animation, dash speed increases the dash animation, i'm almost 100% i'm wrong on that term so don't rely on this information

[neat olive]

teammates for tokoyami includes tsuyu for keepup and revive plays

he can't rely on characters that possess high down power skills too, cause tokoyami himself already breaks combos fast

225 Down Power is a huge problem

[ornate forge]

Being his skills with upped or elsewise normal dmg? Or melee combo? I get up to 194 melee combo dmg rn

Love you so so much for replying 😭 its not easy to become a build nerd and figure out the game when i cannot talk to anyone abt itt

[neat olive]

down power i mean the hits before the opponent falls and the combo breaks

not the damage

the max is 500

so he can hit three alphas before the combo breaks

[neat olive]

don't worry about it then, i'm always here to answer questions!

[ornate forge]

Yeaa that i noticed. Either 1 beta + 1 alpha, or aerial melee, or full melee combo makes them knock down

He's reliable like that ngl. Doesn't have excess ammo

[neat olive]

his melee alone has a lot of down power value, only the first two hits it's 200 😭

[ornate forge]

Also for tech toga you need to land all 20 alpha ammo to knock enemy down which is... Not great when they're in your face..

[ornate forge]

I don't think I understand it that much 🤔 my melee combo in lobby deals 194 dmg fully

[neat olive]

down power, not damage

remember, they are not the same

[ornate forge]

Oh

So hits have that hidden scaling thing

Got it maybe

It's satisfying when you either go aerial melee 3 times on them with melee combo continuation if missed bc its aoe, or just catch them into beta on rise

I'll probably regret being so overkill on melee bc it might be that skills are more dmg effective - but, overall, as i already noticed, i find it better that i have skills unspent if things go awry and i actually need to use them

[foggy python]

Those tunes are bugged and don't work I think

Or they do work but the effects are really bad so you don't notice it

[neat olive]

yea, pretty sure the effects are minimal too

[tall sierra]

Wakeup catch merchant

[ornate forge]

Almost there!!

[ornate forge]

Also, I've been wanting to say this for a while. Aiming on aerial fighters is so so hard on Tokoyami with such a lack of excess ammo...

But yet I somehow sometimes get to... Ideally place beta? And throw alphas?? Like if that mythical legendary fathomed "humanly targeting instincts" kick in. I do it too fast like automatic even. Like. Aaauuuahhhhh look back hold aim button follow the target around a bit and throw q!! Makes me feel crazy that i hit those with such a quick aim- it almost feels like for seconds im getting ultra instinct and playing like a pro. Players fumble after the aerial q landing... Somehow this happens and im so so amused by it.

[floral zinc]

yea i feel like it’s really just sucks that his ammo count is low for alphas. his beta cooldown is not terrible, it’s like 30 seconds but still, i wish he had at least 4 or 5 for his alpha. but it is what it is also, u could always use special action into grounded melee to catch rapids or aerial counters in a way

[ornate forge]

I've pretty much finished the build since I got tech shiggy himself. I only need left: 25 AFO shards (can just get him from a ticket?) and 50 support Nejire shards and I'm done w this. Can technically go some other red special slot but i dont got any other good shards

Like, what's even better than getting at least a 1 guaranteed PU in a match?

Iron Fist (melee dmg buff)? Willpower? Trance blow? I really want Resist Shock ngl bc he's a proooblem ngl.

Otherwise for a spare purple slot I'm planning to put tech nejire shards, i need 15 more, for PU recharge+ and gamma reload

Hype hype hype we win thiss

[mossy musk]

i use trance blow ngl cuz every time i use a char with resist shock noone with shock is ever in my lobby😵

[errant leaf]

Decent enuf dmg tunings to run perception / safo
strike afo tuning gives perception on team for a down 20 seconds. Hoping they buff time.

It can take 20 years to kill someone downed so at the very least can see if its safe to execute. Seems like a fun strat

[errant leaf]

Anyone try rapid ochako / accel?

[severe bronze]

The beta cooldown is not 30 seconds, that would be horribly bad, I think it's something like 12 to 15 I don't remember the exact number

(Which is still pretty mid, but the move is a strong crowd control and combo tool so that's probably for the best)

[tall sierra]

Feels so sick landing a beta on a flying runner

https://tenor.com/view/mha-my-hero-academia-thefoolishest-foolishest-tokoyami-gif-14176096163575353233

[ornate forge]

Alright this is done. Ladies and gents we are done. Time to go try it out!!!

[ornate forge]

Ah damn it i cannot count
So it's total 5 melee dmg+ cards in the game? and I got 4. But I also have like HP dmg+ which is pog thanks to Mic w SPA cdr! and overall 3 SPA cdr

[floral zinc]

ohh i see i laterally just count it out loud when i did lol im dumb 😭

[severe bronze]

You're not dumb don't worry

I just checked, it's 12s at lvl 1, 11s at lvl 4 and 10s at lvl 9

[ornate forge]

Ok so leveling it first is really good then

[ornate forge]

yo i got more sns shards now i truly have 5 melee dmg+ cards

also hottest damn, tokoyami SHREDS EASILY all those destructible buildings in USJ landslide or whatever area

[boreal storm]

good, or nah? also should i flip accel and wall run?

[ornate forge]

hm this suit can also do 5 melee dmg+ tunes, and 2 spa
like potentially either immortal build toko or support/meleer

this one sucks for fixer, can only fit 2 melee dmg+ and 1gp/hp dmg+ with beta/gamma reload and +hp+gp under it
3 spa cdr, 3 melee dmg+ total, but accel positive build breh

[upper nebula]

I know he's a good character already but I wish his alpha had another charge or two, or atleast GAINED a charge or two while leveling up

[errant leaf]

Yeah i think I gota alpha max just for the cd atp.

But its annoying to land beta in air for them to insta fall. I think maybe having levels makes it more preventable?

[errant leaf]

Mic/yoverhaul/yendy
and left side at least had 2 red and alpha for purp. Makes it his highest dmg build. But fixer still just giving a like 4% boost on average. Basically I wana say 5 dmg on each attack. Someone did the numbers holon

Same build. No fixer vs fixer

[upper nebula]

hmmm i might run fixer on USJ specifically

[errant leaf]

Idk y alpha dmg was the same for him on gp. Could be typo

(I just copied his msg .not my test)

[latent sky]

What is all tokyami combos

[umbral siren]

its been some months now since tokoyami has released, and i'm thinking about changing up my tuning so i figure might as well ask
what do yall think of nagant tuning on tokoyami now? people definitely overhyped it when he came out, but im considering doing the nagant+acceleration on casual style rn. been running quirk factor + embrittlement and feel i could find a better tuning

[errant leaf]

He sucks at killing downd ppl so at the very least u can use it then. 10 seconds is mad short tho when u spend at least 6 finishing. Legit could just run some purples to see how you feel and make them lvl 2.
Also sns at least is always a good option if u don't like it

But most like double blue i think most. Or blue/purple

Safo is coming as well, which I don't think is that bad either fr.

[neat olive]

not all downs are coming from his alpha but if you manage to get some good downs while lowering his melee kills, then it's one of his best tunes

[cyan sable]

i need help with tokoyami. What tuning?? accel + wall runner??? or i don't need wall runner?

also how do u like do his dash upwards? hold special action??

also when dark shadow enchanted tokoyami, is his air melee still melee and can it proc melee

[upper nebula]

Wall Runner is THE best tuning for Tokoyami, better than Accel absolutely

The upwards jump is holding it yes

Costs less if you have dark shadow armour active but you prob know that

And yes his air melee still procs accel

BUT not the projectile from the melee

[cyan sable]

Does enabling dark shadow armor cost any gauge?? or it's only that it depletes over time

[cyan sable]

Ohhh

[cyan sable]

i have another question about the dark shadow armor apart from this one that i just asked

when do u wanna use the armor? is it when u dont have anything else to use and if the fight favors close and grounded combat?

[upper nebula]

Enabling costs no gauge

[upper nebula]

Usually during combat BUT also when running away because of the superjump

Also for getting the jump on someone

And its also good for fleeing the storm

[ornate forge]

Beta+alpha, 3 alpha, aerial SpA melee+aerial hit landing at same moment, melee SpA full combo (3 hits), all grant knockdown of the opponent forcing them to go invincible and rise, so you gotta catch them again with any of these, depending on your build

[upper nebula]

I will say (from my experience) Tokoyami excels for a hit and run playstyle

[ornate forge]

Honestly at this point I'm just considering spending my last ticket on getting iida ffs

[ornate forge]

Nah, only depletes while active, you can immediately turn it off but needa be careful in fights bc you cannot stop it from depleting while in a knockdown animation yourself

It's very useful for movement speed, you just jump+glide and it's already faster than normal movement dash/run, and it's also making you much quieter, otherwise you can also add spA to it and you'll zoom through the room even faster while gliding.

[ornate forge]

Im p good at chasing too. Funneling dmg into melee made it slightly easier to ko i think, so, by technicality of my abilities i can really contest downed ppl, and my aoe dmg makes everyone who comes closer to take dmg and potentially get downed too.

But, unfortunately, that's not quite easy to do in ranked so I either need a lotta gp healing from allies or just. Be smarter :(
But i def chew on my enemies lol. I think hit and run skills based is more reliable in ranked, but melee focus can save you those abilities for until you really need them.

Everything is really quickly depletable on Toko, and despite big downpower you needa hit w all of your abilities. If you run out of abilities the best you can do is throw aerial melee range hits at opponents.

Dmg wise I don't think aerial range melee hit is very upgradable, except hp gp dmg+ cards, but it's def reliable if you ran out of everything else and cannot leave/stop fighting and you can do a lot of them p fast and can hit aerial targets.

[cyan sable]

what's spA

[latent sky]

I use revenge support and hyper regen

[ornate forge]

Special action
His "shadow armor" activatable passive

[cyan sable]

but overall is tokoyami a good character? what are his counters? i see many tokoyamis but i haven't seen them win??

[gleaming trellis]

It's very situational, I'm thinking about replacing it with red AFO's when he drops (if i manage to pull him that is)

[terse dome]

he is a solid character
his main counters are fliers since his alpha and beta aren’t easy to land on them

[upper nebula]

He absolutely REQUIRES cooldown management aside from that he's always a solid pick

His hard counters you'd mostly expect

Nagant, everyone who flies, etc

Surprisingly Tokoyami has a REALLY good matchup against SnS

[ornate forge]

It's my most confident pick, I guarantee A or A+ ending ranking on him anywhere. My build is purely focused on meleeing, but even before that I had a budget build and p much did the same. He's a very good chaser/lil bit protector of an ally/good movement speed.

Can support from afar w heals and collecting civilians, or go into storm/fresh downed and revive you while you're downed w a shield gamma protecting you from skills and enemy fire until it lasts, cast beta on an enemy and have several seconds of dmg proc and stagger in an area with any next hit being able to knock that enemy down guaranteedly.

His empowered melees have p big aoe and good tracking so you can "protect" yourself by staggering smb who comes at you via meleeing.

W spa activated your first melee throws a small ranged projectile, which slightly allows you to either chase better (it flies outta first ground melee) or harass aerial/far opponents when everything else is on cooldown (aerial melee goes p far and since you're in a jump it is easier to aim into a direction of enemy's predictable flight trajectory or when they're too far from you but you don't wanna engage w either skills nor melee, like third partying)

I climb w him in ranked, well not perfectly but at least easily until pro rank. Being second to last team is still a win imo, and Tokoyami is a very usual survivor until that time of final zone. He can also cheeky heal in flight-glide.

[terse dome]

it’s funny how few people look up while popping a heal

[ornate forge]

He also has good movement for rez clutches, so you can sometimes get tokens from storm and tell the tale by winning as a fully rezzed team (pre storm buff)
He's small enough and usually dark colored that you can revive from downed in a small-midsize bush unnoticed ((i did that holy crack the adrenaline i clutch rezzed and we won))
He can break enemy combos by nullifying the abilities that hit his shield (gamma) and can use a heal during shield active, or pop his spa (shadow armor) to retaliate w melees or escape.

Gamma can be press-held to stick in a certain direction so you can look away while escaping.

Your "rocket jump" from holding spa button answers to your keyed movement, overriding your sight direction (press S and A while hold pressing R, and you rocket jump to the left and backward)

[ornate forge]

Ngl I always get glocked doing that bc ppl look for me already ykr, and it usually happens to be needed in like. Last few zones which are too small to hide

[cyan sable]

ok tysm

[foggy python]

Overrated

[errant leaf]

#game-moments message

[grand minnow]

i wonder whats going on through his head

[sweet plover]

Can someone send me a build for him.. preferably his knight armor

[neat olive]

Do his fancy version

You can try wall runner/acceleration with fixer/high speed rep/critical permeation

[sweet plover]

When are the servers coming back

[upper nebula]

Yea bro because tokoyami is gonna be why the servers come back 😭

Being fr i think in like 1 and a half hours but do fact check me on that

[ornate forge]

Dear abyssal diary, today I've almost killed an entire team by myself, but in the end turned out I simply donated Tokoyami quirkset to their Strike AfO.

At this point I might consider making a skills oriented build but I'm still red kendo pieces short of finishing the raw melee dmg one

[neat olive]

Alpha focused and wall runner/accel

Trust

[floral zinc]

Perception is sooo underrated with him too ngl

[neat olive]

I’m literally playing him like a rapid character lmao

Activating special while wall running then into melee

They simply CANNOT run

[upper nebula]

When the nagant you were fighting starts running away once she gets to low hp so you GENUINELY just Black Ankh and jump after her

https://tenor.com/view/mha-my-hero-academia-thefoolishest-foolishest-tokoyami-gif-14176096163575353233

[neat olive]

just throw some melee projectiles

they always do the work

[olive raft]

What fit gives raw melee dmg? I’ve still got the double rapid casual style tuned for whenever I play him, but I like brawlers, so melee build would definitely be nice

[floral zinc]

EXACTLY, I’m coming for u

[gleaming trellis]

I don't like Wallrunner this season especially since i have auto dash on, I'm trying Accel/perception rn & I'm liking it so far

Only problem is I'm running out of spa more now lol

[boreal storm]

midoriya and bakugo anime combo real holy

[ornate forge]

@unreal barn im just a little wee bit broke for the finalization of the build

[unreal barn]

Hmmm I see I see

How good do u think revenge strike even is?

Personally its not for me cuz I dont rlly fight all that much when my guard breaks

[ornate forge]

honestly considered - given you can juggle it now with either putting in special slot iron fist, or swapping strike shiggy melee bonus with afo's hp dmg bonus (since both are fairly small buffs with plain numbers), idrk how strong it would be

i fail to use cards as toko, so idk how does double strike card go

[unreal barn]

Define juggle

[ornate forge]

So like, it's ill advised if your main source of dmg is meleeing to replace it

[unreal barn]

This MIGHT be me

[ornate forge]

juggling as a verb is a skill of throwing objects from one of your hand to the other skillfully and theatrically

[unreal barn]

I love the melee button more than I prolly should

[unreal barn]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[ornate forge]

so in terms of the special and normal slots you would be experimenting with putting same char data in either slot

strike shiggy in normal slot gives vital meleedmg+

strike shiggy in special slot gives revenge strike (dmg bonus on guardbreak)

[unreal barn]

Yeah I see what ur sayin

[ornate forge]

you cannot use it in both places

[unreal barn]

Shiggy better used in sub tunings

[unreal barn]

Ok im not THAT new

[ornate forge]

so either to put new strike afo in normal slot

which gives hp dmg+ downed speed+

and put strike shiggy rev strike in special slot to test this

or, wait for red kendo parts and just put iron fist there which seemingly will be best for raw dmg build

[unreal barn]

Whats ur opinion on evil armor blue for acceleration

[unreal barn]

Yeah I did this with the red fit I used both kendo's

Strike and assault

In special tunings

[ornate forge]

no idea ngl but you wanna see an accounting for all melee tunes there right?

i only tuned 1 skin for him

(and bought variant)

[unreal barn]

I only tuned the red and blue

Blue I currently use

[ornate forge]

oh thats actually kinda cool ngl, but it seems ppl more favor embrittlement there

[unreal barn]

Acceleration just so good

[ornate forge]

well its the only variant we got for accel

[unreal barn]

Yeah eventually I used embrittlement when I got enough

But kendo was fun for a bit

[unreal barn]

Its tragic

Now im stuck with a bleh tech tuning

And its only hero's so I cant use hyper regen

Might switch it to eraser's ngl

Cuz I wanna heal faster while putting up my shield

[ornate forge]

so you get.. accel... 3 spa cdr+, 3 meleedmg+, hpdmg+, gp dmg+, hp def+, max gphp+, max hp/gp optional but preferrably from kurogiri parts with melee def+, forward jump ht+ gamma cdr+, ...

and lvl 11 fixer enhances your, by choice, either present mic or sns red card, and 1 meleedmg+ alpha def+, hpdef+ gpdmg+, forward jump ht+ gamma cdr+ (on lvl 4) and max gphp+ on lvl 4

[ornate forge]

yeah plus healing in midair, thats more useful

[unreal barn]

Oh yeah I CAN use fixer

[unreal barn]

And that

[ornate forge]

yeah ive accounted whatever could help you there ngl

my build has ALL melee dmg+ tunes ✨

[unreal barn]

Wow for me?🥹

[ornate forge]

^^^ read the msg! yes

[unreal barn]

I wish I could access my pc rn

[ornate forge]

you can get up to 3 melee dmg+ cards, 3 spa cdr+ and one card for gp and hp dmg+

ppl who bought the season pass w him dont suffer like that they got blue-blue variant

[unreal barn]

Acceleration+perception🥀

Lucky bastards

[ornate forge]

yuhhhh

[ornate forge]

i left off this budget build btw
can still fiddle w trance blow that i put in it, but it breaks combos and you deal less dmg

[unreal barn]

Trance blow I didn't consider all that much

Half the time cuz I forgot and the other half is cuz of the reasons u just said

[ornate forge]

btw the Combat variant... hmm...

[unreal barn]

What color is that

[ornate forge]

Green

[unreal barn]

Ion remember the names

[ornate forge]

Teal

Cerulean

SUPPORT

Lol

[unreal barn]

I never looked at that one im ngl

Whats its special slots

[ornate forge]

Twisted fortune + rev assault/speedy civ rescue/sisterly disposition (asskendo)

Can achieve 5 meleedmg+, alpha def+, vert jump ht+, runspeed+, 3 MELEE DMG+ ARE PLACABLE ON LVL 4, max gphp+ on lvl 4, 2 spa cdr+, max hp+, downed speed+, 2 hpdef+, gpdmg+

[unreal barn]

Twin do you....know what slots there are

Ok there we go

Im sorry u took awhile I got scared

[ornate forge]

its support insanity

[ornate forge]

dw i just cooked and wrote down possible slot options

so you can technically see from my text what the build offers

[unreal barn]

Twisted fortune especially good with the fact we heal in midair

Revenge assault seems nice

And kendo we both agree is good

[ornate forge]

in my raw melee dmg build i only have 1 melee dmg+ tune in lvl 4, and 2 spa cdr+ ones. but also like max hp gp at lvl 4 rn

[ornate forge]

well yea since we're technically speaking about mainly melee focused gameplay

these are the builds ya can make 🙏

id probably go with civ rescue speed buff

[unreal barn]

Supa cool dark shadow building destroyer tech

[ornate forge]

it's actually startling that support build almsot has even better slots for melee dmg+

[unreal barn]

Landslide zone HATES to see me coming

[unreal barn]

Yeah subslots are pretty crazy

[ornate forge]

YEAH. but you still take hours to drink the potions ig

[ornate forge]

Yee. I though for one do want PU reload bonus when I can get it, and it's not possible to get both in any of these builds

I have an issue w PU bc it only "finishes" charging when I'm downed

[unreal barn]

Speaking of potions do u think the hp team heal is kinda mid or is that just me

[unreal barn]

I genuinely hate this so much

Like genuinely I could've used u a SECOND ago

[ornate forge]

It IS mid........ unless you run twisted fortune with it

[unreal barn]

Twisted fortune gp heal🤔

[ornate forge]

Yea. So I went with PU crush after a while of talking to ppl here. That way I can at least have a 1 guaranteed usage of PU which could be very helpful if I'd get caught while meleeing

[unreal barn]

Yeah its pretty good is most cases

I remember there was a tuning that filled ur pu gauge from using lvl up cards

I think thats strike hawks's

[ornate forge]

Yeah

No idea how good that is ngl

[unreal barn]

Can we agree strike endeavor's special tuning is lwk buns

[unreal barn]

I tried it on my assault shigi set its meh

[ornate forge]

I mean it has its uses. For minmaxxing

[unreal barn]

Yeah but when the entire point is mainly defense it kinda feels pointless

[ornate forge]

Yupp

Esp when you never get to the point of being able to use it

[unreal barn]

Right

And u get maybe 2 per match if ur lucky

But 70% of the time ur getting 1

On another note the speed u go flying with accelerate is actually bonkers

[ornate forge]

Yup
And he sucks at being able to finish off enemies for Pu Crushing specifically

It would be better if you'd run accel with rapid bakugo tuning instead

[unreal barn]

I fully forgot what that does😎

[ornate forge]

Try rapid vengeance LMAO

[unreal barn]

This sounds scary

Accelerate already shoves me like a quarter of the map😭

[unreal barn]

Wait is this just the same as strike but u run up walls now??

[ornate forge]

YES

no

[unreal barn]

Pick one

[ornate forge]

for strike you need to specifically KO them

[unreal barn]

Ah

[ornate forge]

for rapid you need to DOWN them and you can wallrun

[unreal barn]

Strict upgrade ngl

[ornate forge]

Absolutely

[unreal barn]

Do they both scale the same?

[ornate forge]

Not up to me to find out ngl

[unreal barn]

Or does strike scale more

Real

I feel strike is pointless if it doesnt scale higher

[ornate forge]

Kinda yes it probably does

[unreal barn]

Thats good

Reminds me that I got christmas bakugo from my green ticket rolls

Part of the reason im saving for texh

Tech*

Idk what to say anymore

I spoke all I had to speak

Oh yeah

Wait nvm I said that earlier

Well I gtg in 2 mins anyway

Cya

[ornate forge]

Alr, seeya

[errant leaf]

strike hawks imo prolly better. he doesnt really need lvls so u can space them out without missing out on too much. Youll get 2 pus a game instead of 1. and u can kinda just force to waste one instead of holding for when ur special runs out.

also idk if anyone did math, 30 seconds reload with 0 SA vs 20 seconds reload if SA is on 1%

[unreal barn]

Aint strike hawks kinda really need levels

[errant leaf]

the tuning

[unreal barn]

Ah mb

[latent sky]

What’s the best tokoyami lvl up order

[ornate forge]

depends on your chosen playstyle, i with totality of melee dmging usually lvl up beta to 9 first, then choosable but potentially even for gamma and alpha (like alpha lvl 5, gamma lvl 5), bc you do not gain ammo nor size nor duration upgrades, only dmg and durability and reload speed values

would kinda say that lvl 9 beta aim is solid

[latent sky]

Ok so max beta first then alpha

[ornate forge]

yeah, usually best, though i started to feel underwhelming in this meta

[latent sky]

I used to go max alpha

[neat olive]

you can keep going then

i normally do a4 - b4 - a9

the damage does make a difference

[latent sky]

Yea so I changed to beta

[upper nebula]

I like prioritizing Beta then Gamma

Alpha's damage is kinda whatever and isnt exactly mandatory

[errant leaf]

But the reload goes from
3
2.5
2

I prolly should max and try to never run outa sa and cycle it by touching wall to reset it. But killing is just so hard late game idk

[deep quartz]

How do you guys escape when you're being dogpiled by a whole team, I can't SA away because it's too slow and shield breaks fairly easily

[latent sky]

It is but you have to hurry and tap special action then hold it down but first use all your frames

[terse dome]

make sure to use your iframes and don’t immediately activate spa if it isn’t active already
once it is active double jump deactivate glide a bit then maybe deacticate glide if they have beamers or people with actual mobility and just keep running

[deep quartz]

Do I always wanna have spa active before I jump?

[terse dome]

always
better movement
drains less gauge

[errant leaf]

i think it removes iframes tho? i can never sa and jump without takn hits

i never tried without

[terse dome]

if you hit any button it removes iframes
only way you don’t lose iframes are movement inputs and shift flight

[errant leaf]

hawks sa doersnt

[terse dome]

yes because his flight is activated by shift

[deep quartz]

I got another question, whenever I'm in the air and use beta on someone below me, it never hits them, cus the beta gets stuck above the ground, is there anyway to avoid that from happening?

[terse dome]

i think that’s either range limits or some weird bug

[deep quartz]

I see

Are these tuning alright? I don't really know what I'm doing

[terse dome]

bakugo and overhaul are useless on him
the special tunings themselves seem alright

[neat olive]

gamma damage won't work on him, but you can still benefit of Max HP and Wall Jump HT+ tunes

id recommend wall runner builds since you can delay i-frames run on walls and escape frequently

[deep quartz]

Which costume do you recommend for this?

[neat olive]

those ones

i'm always focusing alpha with special action reload on passives, wall runner always backs me up

when out of alphas, just throw projectiles, they always works 😆

[deep quartz]

What a beautiful sight

[deep quartz]

and thanks 👍

[unreal barn]

I get lvl 4 shield for no reason and then max alpha

[upper nebula]

i've had enough of people on my team taking tokoyami from my grasp if someone on my team picks tokoyami im picking raid boss shiggy out of spiting the entire lobby

[neat olive]

I’m surprised there still tokoyami players out there

I never get the trouble of players picking the same as me

[ornate forge]

Also you may immediately undo it by gliding sinde dark shadow can only do one thing at once except gliding+armor
I happen to undo mine often :(

[ornate forge]

You can see my build higher up it's on the same costume, but mine is full on raw melee dmg+ build
If you dont want to use melee as main dmg focus try to aim for alpha beta dmg+ and reload+
Also getting a PU reload could be useful since you're using willpower

[deep quartz]

Oh wow I didn't know the glide counted towards that

[ornate forge]

I actually use it to undo alphas when i glide towards an evacuee cage
So it doesn't continue going and won't give my existence away more than necessary by sound

[deep quartz]

Damn big brain moves

[ornate forge]

Yk you can drink and glide too though you're then falling slowly

And during gliding your spa gauge doesn't recharge

[deep quartz]

Oh yea yea I know that

[ornate forge]

Then i think youre good

Etc you can hold gamma for a sec longer and pop spa armor mode from behind the shields protection

[deep quartz]

I wanted to try out Wall Runner today so I made this, I'm missing memories for some tunings, but I kinda like it

[ornate forge]

Fair

Idk if we can use run or dash speed buffs during gliding

Jump ht is kinda more valuable that way

So if you can grab that and get used to gliding, do that

I'll... Do the inevitable nightmare of trying nejire jump on his base armor variant

Once ill have enuf parts

[deep quartz]

Interesting haven't seen anyone do that yet on tokoyami

[deep quartz]

and thanks for this, I'll change it when I can 🙏

I gotta get better at using his gamma as well

[ornate forge]

Ngl playing on supphaul with NO JUMP HT WHATSOEVER made me feel dizzy playing toko

Like, with forward jump i can jump on the stage in lobby from the sides, and with vertical jump i can from the front

It's really important to add ht to your jumps for chars that can capitalize on it

[deep quartz]

I didn't know it made that big of a difference, but it makes sense yea

[ornate forge]

You can hold the key and it'll lock in one set direction but honestly it's not easy to use it that way, plus you gotta first pop shield and then use items

You can pop shield "action free" during being downed, rescuing a civilian, and helping downed to rise

[ornate forge]

You're also soundless while gliding which can help you possibly

[deep quartz]

I've canceled my heals so much trying to activate gamma during a heal

I keep forgeting

[ornate forge]

Unfortunately i think you cannot use shield while gliding but you can checj that yourself idr

But you'll be able to during wallrunning maybe???? Curious idea

[deep quartz]

I haven't tried that now that you mention

[neat olive]

you can, there is a specific window

but there is a way, i'm still not sure how to do it consistently

[latent sky]

What jump height do

[latent sky]

But how do you use shield while healing

[neat olive]

just use shield first, then start healing

unless you're talking about using on the air

[latent sky]

Talking about air

[neat olive]

then that's the way i was talking about, i dunno how to do it consistently

i know there is a way, i saw a friend of mine doing it

[latent sky]

Ok tell me

I’ll learn to do it consistently

[neat olive]

i think it's gliding first then pressing shield, or reverse

still not sure

[latent sky]

Ima go in training and see

But do you have great tips for tokoyami

[ornate forge]

Vertical jump height is idle jump height, like space hop special slot tuning
Buffs your usually already high jump when you're not moving otherwise
Forward jump height buffs your jump height when you're moving in any direction, so you can jump while sprinting and go higher and further (like to cross a broken bridge gap)

Toko has a passive on shift to glide, so he can use that to gain big speed and fall down slower

[latent sky]

So how would jump height be affective

[ornate forge]

Having more forward jump height may make you much faster indoors and much quieter bc you would be able to glide for much longer

[latent sky]

Oh so forward jump height better for him

[ornate forge]

Imo yeah but ppl do anything they like

[latent sky]

What build you main with him

[ornate forge]

Only have one right now

[latent sky]

I don’t got that skin

[ornate forge]

His default heat variant is the best budget build iirc

[latent sky]

I got a skin already the casual style I got three builds for if

It

I’m tryna find out which one should I main

[ornate forge]

Im doing raw melee dmg, you can do quite a lotta variety ngl

[neat olive]

mostly, yes

depends on what exactly you wanna know, matchups? gameplay tips?

lmk

[latent sky]

I’m very aggressive

So I use revenger support and hyper regen

[ornate forge]

Pretty good ngl

[latent sky]

I got it form a sweaty tokyami he said that’s his best build

[ornate forge]

Unamused, that's like immortal toko build but you supply yourself w guardbreaks

[latent sky]

Yea lol it fits my playstyle

But I wanna start using the wall runner and acceleration build also

Should I make wall runner lvl 11 instead of acceleration

[terse dome]

imo better accel uptime is more important than wall runner the entire match

[latent sky]

Ima keep it that way the

Then

[deep quartz]

Will those casual costumes ever be available again?

[latent sky]

Never

[deep quartz]

rip

[latent sky]

lol

[terse dome]

unless they somehow decide to add them back through revival tokens doubt it

[floral zinc]

same honestly 😭

[ornate forge]

.......i think i singlehandedly kod almost everyone in solos rn

[ornate forge]

So this tuning upped my damage like... Miniscule

212 with full buff

[neat olive]

If you’re talking about iron fist

Then yes

It buffs up to 5% of your damage

Literally 1-2 increased dmg overall

[ornate forge]

204 to 212 isn't too small, but... Small

I suppose embrittlement would be much better, huh?

Then I still have red slot for discussion huh

Maybe fr put annihilation there

[neat olive]

you can try ability manifest

higher duration for strike cards means double damage all the time

just a level 2 strike cards lasts for almost a entire fight

[ornate forge]

Fr fr. Ngl with how much I need tamaki tunings i may need the man himself

[errant leaf]

manifest without able to change auto lvl up is aidz

[ornate forge]

Hmmm? Elaborate plz

[errant leaf]

When u open bag, on top left there was a spot that allowed you to toggle auto lvl up.

So when u pick up a yellow card, if off, it would be in your bag instead of lvling up.
Also each card you pick up wont stack together. So if you picked up 5 red alphas, you would have 5 lvl 1 red alphas.
When its on it would be a single lvl 5 red alpha.

So when you want to combine cards (like seeing a green one on the battle field) but you dont auto lvl up, now you need more space.

To change that feature now you have to open up your settings and do it, so you gota just suffer all game essentially with no auto lvl up.

Mainly bad for green characters since I rather have it on then switch. Green cards everyone loves.
I dont want the greens to combine cause. I can use lvl cards to increase it.

Just tedious stuff

[ornate forge]

Ooo. Yeah that could be an issue ig

I have to loot entire game to later on use lvl 3 rapids, lvl 7 yellow/red/technical ones

(on supphaul)

On toko i barely get to use them fair nuff except green and yellow

[terse dome]

finally got to ace rank playing tokoyami solo queue

[ornate forge]

Grats!!

[upper nebula]

Hell yeah

[stiff wren]

tokoyami main forever

[unreal barn]

Thats my boy🥹

[neat olive]

ayo nice 🔥

[upper nebula]

Bro IS one with the dark

[next birch]

Fun fact: Tokoyami has 2 finisher animations

[ornate forge]

Oi? With Spa active?

[next birch]

Ye

[ornate forge]

Pog

[errant leaf]

really want an accel / tafo build

that was revenge supp/ tafo. idk how i feel about it

[floral zinc]

Honestly would love to try that build out, it sounds interesting

[stiff wren]

aiyo

[upper nebula]

wtf name checks out you literally are the big Toko

[stiff wren]

even some random player invite me to carry them lol

[ornate forge]

The only time i got invited by smb i didnt recognize they left mid match not waiting for rez so i was left with ash on tongue :(

[stiff wren]

my boi stalking me while pulling 😂

[daring zenith]

jesus how the hell do you play like that

I struggle sometimes with him though it may be my build

and maybe a mixture of my team sucking sometimes

[ornate forge]

Honestly it's always accel tokos that are the scariest

[daring zenith]

I guess I need to invest in an acceleration build for him

[ornate forge]

Just look up what casual fit their choice looks like from the screenshot tho

[stiff wren]

accel with wall runner

tokoyami:

https://tenor.com/view/running-away-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-prime-gotta-go-gtg-gif-27181560

[stiff wren]

my accel build if u want to see

[ornate forge]

ah, so yes, this is the classic

istg im SO annoyed by the existence of this

i don't have it myself bc obviously i couldnt buy the season pass

but the danger gap between this BS and any other normal build is monstrous

[errant leaf]

I think non accel builds that have sa reload are pretty close. His lategame is bad so that'll help where double blue won't as much.
Or maybe sns so you can go to zone and heal.
Spacehop kinda helps save sa as well. So u got his green/purple
Purple/yellow and yellow/red build (I havnt tried that one yet)

Tried sa/sh only one game but I liked it quiet a bit. Helped with hard matchups like red kiri.

[noble basin]

is there a play style/method to have constant flight uptime

[ornate forge]

I wanna make base outfit w purple & green villain specials be my test for Nejire jump lol, since I unlocked the skin slots anyway
Otherwise ig Id wanna try to do a skills focused build next

[noble basin]

just remembered this toko I went against and he was basically birdmogging any hawks player

straight flight spammer

[ornate forge]

Or perhaps yeah, i remembered, the combat variant, civ rescue + twisted fortune, ultimate usj supportism

I can do accel on only this, and ngl lowkey dont wanna ig

embrittlement build WOULD go hard truthfully, but i went for all small slots melee dmg+ so thats why im on dangerous

you need 2 hero blue, 1 villain 1 hero reds, 1 yellow villain slots

or alternatively you put that yellow into embrittlement bc its better there

[errant leaf]

I think that's the closest accel build to help him late game with zawa/critperm. (Can full pot off non stagger moves after sheild break)
But id recon ud have to gamma max to get your pot off for zawa AND u gota make sure people break it cause 1 year reload speed if not

[ornate forge]

Yeah true
I think crit perm would be better bc you can drink in it iirc

[errant leaf]

Agree. Most moves will that will break u while flying will be non stagger. Just gota manage ur sa (turn off before it so u dont waste during pot)

I forgot about yafo tuning as well. Might be a decent replacement for tafo but b4 nerf it wasn't super good to me (but also toko just released)
I think ima lab it for the math.

Wana say 100% reload speed for 10 seconds would save you 10 seconds

And sa at 0% takes 30
Sa at 1% takes 20
So yafo would reduce both by 10

[neat olive]

wall runner tokoyami still got it

[daring zenith]

Thanks for thus

I just don’t like copying or using what most are using already on a character so I’ll prob improvise

[ornate forge]

Many many chars become monsters w accel, it's just tokoyami imo is one of the best with it so everyone uses it

Like the only other meleer is ofa deku who IS the accel

Yet it's useful for all chars which lack mobility or need attack speed to cram more dmg in their combos

Bc CC gives you a really small window for dmg adding, and accel helps to fit more attacks into that window

[daring zenith]

I see

I'm not sure if I'll be able to quite put together a whole new build for him yet

Ill have to see when I get on

[upper nebula]

With SpA active Tokoyami might have THE best melee in the game if you disregard the ofa deku loop

[ornate forge]

Yea, esp if you disregard ofa deku's infinite melee loop* where you just kill ppl by denying the last combo attack

[upper nebula]

you can what

[ornate forge]

The aerial melee followup is v strong on toko and goes vertically too

[ornate forge]

He be do like (explanation of what ofa deku melee is like)

Yk first couple of hits are flukes with like 5 dmg
Then he lifts you to the air and does 3 ... Alpha like shots into air that deals like 50 70 90 dmg

He can roll and undo the last one and melee you again
Three times and ppl are dead

• He can melee loop you infinitely like that outside of even Overhaul SpA range (had that exp)

It's very straightforward when you spectate it, really

Not sure if it's the same number of key inputs wise (like press melee attack button thrice or more times, idk i dont play ofa deku i dont have him) but they do indeed roll before third air blast

And they can do three aerial melees which seems to be kinda like Armormight air melee but it's apparently finicky and then they can melee you on ground or else

And you can jump into air w stuff like space hop to avoid their OVERDRIIIVE damage w shockwave if you previously were on ground

Or whatever, i wasnt super keen to it but you can kinda dark souls that move w jump ht

[errant leaf]

He said toko and ur talkn bout not toko

[ornate forge]

Ah, true, lemme add clarification

[olive raft]

hopped back on tokoyami after a long time, since the afo bugs with special action are too crazy rn. I guess I'm doing alright? Idk

[neat olive]

ayo we take those

wp!

[olive raft]

https://klipy.com/gifs/happy-catto-cats--k01KQD10CN6T1B2152DHPG329ZK

[errant leaf]

the air reset afo bug?

[olive raft]

the special action afo bugs, 1 is where you can't swap to your 2nd quirk, forcing you to take another one to see if it fixes. The other is when you swap to your 2nd quirk after stealing one, the game has a chance of crashing

it makes afo's special action basically unusuable some games, because of the fear of crashing

I can't tell you how many games I've lost either due to crashing, or not being able to swap to my movement quirk while in a bad situation, and dying because of it

[olive raft]

slightly better game, why does he feel so much stronger than I remember

[olive raft]

first time covering every category with him, nice

[upper nebula]

Tokoyami Sweep

[ornate forge]

Finally feeling good but mostly bc im being teamheal supported

[plush ginkgo]

is this better than the accel / nagant quick reload build or is it preference

[daring zenith]

ngl Im trying their build out and it's an absolute game changer with acceleration alone

well its not their build exactly cause I dont like to copy people but yeah

its preference for the other special tuning because acceleration pretty much fixes everything Tokoyami lacks

I went from trance blow barely killing people to using acceleration and absolutely slaughtering the battle field and being an incredible support

I only have camouflage to work with as the first tuning but ngl.. it actually isn't that bad to have

[ornate forge]

TIME TO GOOF

[upper nebula]

this is the most insane build i have ever seen

[ornate forge]

Ngl it's actually goofy good

[ornate forge]

It's this skin's base which sure isn't very useful, but ig its a good fodder trial opportunity :D testing both tunes

[plush ginkgo]

unranked but thought this was a pretty cool moment

[ornate forge]

Idk why I've written a novel abt comparing toko to asshaul, and how asshaul is actually pretty countering him and is potentially stronger despite being of same kinda category/class and being of similar mobility wise 1v1 solotarget ish dmg kit. And idk why I've put it in overhaul forum. I think if y'all want you deserve a shortcut to read my thoughts and maybe expand on them.
#1265601958342033532 message

Bc i think i may have really found out why i didn't enjoy playing on toko. +1 alpha ammo petition anyone?

Like, at this point tokoyami is like, hit and run paper thin dark souls parry aoe nuisance with slightly long cds and almost full inability for knockdowns if you whiff 1 alpha and 1 beta.
So i consider there's a need to run qfr on him...

[plush ginkgo]

tbh i never have a problem with his cooldowns and i dont use qfr

besides his low dp i think his shield is way too weak

[ornate forge]

Same, but if I wanna try to make a skills focused build potentially i think id try qfr. Theres armor variant w yellow red slots and ig i can make it both melee op and skills decent, i can try on that

[ornate forge]

Id go w qfr for the sake of potentially more dp ngl.

[plush ginkgo]

the thing is, he is really good one on one but the more enemies around him the worse he becomes … shield is weak sauce, forced to use special action to run and you burn through too much util for one knockdown with no way to fight or get another knockdown to control pressure

[neat olive]

if it works for ya, i never stopped using wall runner on him, it always fixes his special action cooldown management plus alpha strong angles

wall run always being a solid pick

also giving movement for brand new positioning so you can break line of sight

literally his second best slot

[ornate forge]

Yep, w that i really agree, altho his only armor skin variant is poor for that ngl

[neat olive]

hoping for a new skin with another level 11 rapid slot

[ornate forge]

Fr

[neat olive]

but for now, both wall run skins are solid

tried wall shuffle speed too, great pick for his movement on wall runs

noticed a great difference while using it

[ornate forge]

Hmm. Yeah I wouldn't be amused at that ngl. Im tryna make a dash speed for supphaul who has kinda most for it ngl.

[ornate forge]

Yeah exactly. Altho i did get to 1v2 in early game once, but enemy's afo went in and collected me and my quirk as a served dish :(

[ornate forge]

ngl im cooking in unrank so far

[dire portal]

Idk if this is already known but it looks like if you roll midway through the black ankh animation, you can cancel the roll into a melee or another roll or anything

not sure about the use of it but it's very funny to double roll

[ornate forge]

M, i wonder if ankh active makes tokos dodge horizontally longest from all chars since it boosts all movement speeds for him

[upper nebula]

I had a dream last night that they changed Ankh Toko's dodge to do damage and hard knock people

[ornate forge]

Crazy discord ideas involvement 😂

[upper nebula]

Tokoyami is a horrifying character there is no world where I can should playing strategically and start spamming SpA Air Melee only for it to actually work

[ornate forge]

Projectiles or full contact air melees? Muahaha

[ornate forge]

Does Tokoyami qualify for AWOOOO sequence
Like full on upon all-in engaging singing Just Like Animals in vc and AWOOOing sequence

[mossy ledge]

What’s his level up order

[upper nebula]

Full contact

They just keep getting hard knocked and i keep hitting their wakeup

[ornate forge]

Yup
Thats how it works ngl

It also TRACKS them

If they're higher than you, it PULLS YOU TOWARDS THEM

[upper nebula]

I was fighting this Monoma who just kept blocking my shi with gamma so i decided screw it, used my strike card, started spamming SpA Air Melee and I killed him in like 5 seconds

[ornate forge]

Yea yea yea thats how it goes

[ornate forge]

Thought I'd share it here too. I once drew Tokoyami for smb w a harry potter crossover

[upper nebula]

Oooo nice

[floral zinc]

level up beta 4 then alpha max then beta max then gamma that’s what i do at least

[mossy ledge]

Ok

[upper nebula]

i drew this roughly a week or so ago because im cringe

figured this was a good place for tokoyami art

[ornate forge]

If we had a moon in the hurricane or whatever monsoon usj zone
Pog birb

[grand minnow]

actually such a W character

[floral zinc]

as a fellow solo toko main, this was a perfect 2v1 indeed ( i hate froppy)

[upper nebula]

GAH DAMN HOLY

[floral zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/tokoyami-dark-shadow-mha-my-hero-academia-all-for-one-gif-11490919142558196615

it had to been done

[neat olive]

ayee perception

nicee

[floral zinc]

it’s sooo underrated on toko

[upper nebula]

Is there a bug with Toko's shield? I was just in a match trying to heal using gamma but froppy's beta kept going through it??? Legitimately costed me the match

[neat olive]

Froppy beta goes through most shields

That’s pretty common tbh

If she’s close enough she still hits, even if you stagger her with the shield

[plush ginkgo]

your guard break and down sounds are hilarious 😭😭

[floral zinc]

it’s satisfying to hear ngl 😭😭

[upper nebula]

Oh that is bs 😭

[upper nebula]

never doubt the big Tsukuyomi

[floral zinc]

yesssir

[copper moth]

i just unlocked him, but im super confused on how to fly higher when using his special action, im on controller and barely get height :') also what is best to level up first?

[copper moth]

ok i figured out i can go high if i just keep pressing y but how do i go faster and change the height i want😞

[ornate forge]

You need to hold the special actions button to activate the rocket jump
Its height isn't really changeable
Without active spa (special action) mode where tokoyami is having shadow curl around him, you can only do two jumps and then your spa is pretty much exhausted fully and will reload very long
With spa mode active you get movement boost for everything and if you hold spa for rocket jump you can do max 3 and they go higher
Also you can glide in air, that doesn't let your spa bar regenerate though

[copper moth]

EEE THANK U SO MUCH I FINALLY GOT TO PLAY HIM PROPERLY!!

[ornate forge]

Congrats!! Also his melee attacks while using spa mode are different, and his enhanced melee in midair is very strong

Also first strike of his enhanced melee throws a projectile at the enemy

Which isnt counted as a melee hit anyway but like

Can help if you've spent every ability

[upper nebula]

Aside from OFA deku Tokoyami with SpA has arguably the best melee in the game so you should absolutely lean on that

[copper moth]

i love that about him!! its my favourite melee

[ornate forge]

overhaul's is my second fav, really good tracking (the ground one), and last hit hits twice so it can actually stagger anyone who gets close too. you can like 80% catch ppl on rise from knockdown with overhauls melee alone if not confident.

[copper moth]

i didnt know thatt, ive reallybeen wanting him but im not having gacha luck:')

[floral zinc]

Guys, i really hope they don’t buff tokoyami this patch, because if they do he going be easily top tier

[neat olive]

not everyone knows how to play him so depends on the buff

maybe add ammo or improve his cooldowns?

[floral zinc]

that’s is true bc i don’t see ppl that do play him, play optimally like u or me and ppl in this discord sever.

[floral zinc]

that would be cool honestly

but after that noo more 😭😭 let’s keep him pure

[neat olive]

that's why i say wall run the goat

literally his optimal tune

[floral zinc]

Fr, i remember i was still learning him and u help so much with him, i use other tuning with him for the fun of it but i really just use wall runner and perception. tbh i real wanna use wall run + annihilation

[neat olive]

don't you have strike afo?

his casual default allows that

[floral zinc]

yeaa but uk late game be hell 😭, i need to wall run to be the last slide. Just needs to be reverse but i think will try that honestly

[neat olive]

still works, losing wall runner with him on last zones aren't that big deal

just need to manage special gauge more often

[floral zinc]

oh wow, never thought of it like that. I’m really honestly good at managing my special gauge so this works out honestly. u got me an idea gaabis

https://tenor.com/view/gif-emoji-emoji-meme-emoji-memes-spin-gif-3355519892839036421

[neat olive]

will power 10 and wall runner 11 on toko within 2 seasons trust

[floral zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/strangler-spongebob-perfect-laugh-evil-gif-13701149

That’s another one that good, yooo ur giving me ideas

[upper nebula]

IF THEY LOWER HIS BETA DOWNPOWER, IT WILL BE THE END OF ALL OF US! NOOOOOO!

https://tenor.com/view/trunks-super-saiyan-android-if-they-set-that-android-free-it'll-be-the-end-of-all-of-us-gif-2328823252801726214

[ornate forge]

Ngl warpheal is kinda op

I didnt have big heals so i kept on healing my teammates a bit while trying to desperately heal myself

[upper nebula]

Actually i just got an idea for a buff that could literally make Tokoyami S tier (but thankfully it'd literally be impossible to implement since it wouldn't be lore accurate)

Imagine if his skills didn't cancel Black Ankh

[plush ginkgo]

also not possible b/c his skills are projecting black ankh meaning he cant coat himself w/ black ankh

[upper nebula]

I just got the funniest buff idea to Tokoyami

What if specifically having Black Ankh on gave you wall runner without needing to use a tuning slot (you wouldn't have it normally, turning it off while wall running would simply cancel the wallrun)

[ornate forge]

That's cool

[copper moth]

i would love this

[sterile harness]

Does anyone have like a playstyle for tokoyami

[mossy musk]

wym

like how to play him in general?

[sterile harness]

Yea

[mossy musk]

air melee into wake up air melee into wake up air melee and now they dead

just take him into training,then swap the bots to attk mod