#Midoriya (OFA)

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tropic lantern
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I'm doing Alpha > Gamma > Beta rn

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if you feel like you're getting really good beta value every game I wouldn't say it's wrong to upgrade it second

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but I like not having to reset gearshift as often

fervent kite
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I always do Gamma max > Beta 4 > Alpha max

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And then max beta

fleet quail
neat dagger
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I do gamma max, alpha max, then beta max

fleet quail
tropic lantern
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The speed boost from being in top gear alone makes it more worth than the beta imo

fleet quail
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If that makes sense

tropic lantern
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You shouldn’t really use overdrive

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The upgrade is mostly just for the duration

neat dagger
tropic lantern
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If you do use overdrive the value is from spiking someone in the air for double alpha

neat dagger
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Because on low level gamma I keep Fa Jin in my back pocket to make up for mobility

fleet quail
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Yk

neat dagger
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Other than that I have no use for it bc it just TANKS your gamma duration

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Like 30~% right?

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Yeah so if you use over drive a lot you better have wall runner tuning or have fa Jin saved

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Fa Jin + forward jump side alpha gives me hella momentum

jaunty rune
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I go a4 g4 b9 a9 g9

spare kiln
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Well heres mine if it helps i go beta and gamma to lvl 4 at first then alpha to lvl 4 then i max gamma and beta the. Alpha

lean oyster
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with this guy does ur beta recharge in the air

jaunty rune
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No

neat dagger
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Same w gamma, it does not recharge in the air

warped orchid
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Did his gamma get slightly nerfed cause it’s not hitting every time like it used to. Granted this only happens in some cases against nagant rapid bakugo armored all might and a small few others but I wanna make sure I’m not trippin

tropic lantern
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It was never guaranteed before

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So no nerfs to the gamma

neat dagger
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Just ppl know how to evade it better

warped orchid
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Type

solar sail
spare kiln
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How are rapid deku community doing today

warped orchid
warped orchid
pastel crypt
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Chat

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Do we see the vision with Spiraling Leap

neat dagger
pastel crypt
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Fa Jin isn't as floaty

neat dagger
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Fa Jin is good enough for me to not use SL or SH

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Fair enough

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I just use Fa Jin for forward mobility tho

pastel crypt
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I like alpha kiting so maybe it's preference

tropic lantern
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Your alpha isn’t good enough to trade with a lot of the beamer characters

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Fa Jin fits it perfectly

neat dagger
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I mostly use it to knock ppl down and for wake up punish

pastel crypt
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Well even if it isn't good, I'm rocking with it

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I like how he maneuvers with it

native drift
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ive joined the dark side

tropic lantern
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It’s fun here

bronze cape
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Okay someone just did the loop on me

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how is it still possible

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How do you even do it

tropic lantern
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If you cancel your dodge pretty perfectly you can loop forever still

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If you practice it in training and get it consistent you can always do it in game, it’s significantly easier in game than in training

native drift
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^

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also people really do not respect his alpha enough

spare kiln
solar sail
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Bruh his alpha is the best part of his kit😭

tropic lantern
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Really hyping up the beta in that feedback

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Especially the slam that any character with verticality can avoid

solar sail
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I hope whenever they nerf rapidku they buff quintuple's hitbox and smokescreen.

tropic lantern
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Would be nice, can’t remember the last time I didn’t just use the slam for mobility

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Alpha by far is the best part of his kit

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I wouldn’t mind if he dodges nerfs completely though

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The way most dekus play is really unsafe and not that strong

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He totally deserves nerfs though

spare kiln
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Either that player is using s1 characters and getting koed for it or hes just that bad

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😭

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Am here dodging rapid deku with red deku

jaunty rune
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Ik he plays overhaul because he’s a regular in that chat and ik he plays twice because he talks there quite a bit too

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Idk if he plays anyone else though

spare kiln
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His feedback in short is making rapid deku worse than assault deku

jaunty rune
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I don’t think I taught him how to deal with some matchups on overhaul so I don’t think he can’t deal with some characters as easily

spare kiln
jaunty rune
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While rapidku still needs nerfs and is still strong the overhaul matchup isnt as hopeless as the changes seem to make him out to be

spare kiln
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But the dude in the feedback "lock on should use 100% of the gauge" 😭

jaunty rune
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Grounded alpha needs to get nerfed to the ground ngl

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It’s got everything

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Speed size armor damage and a hard knockdown

spare kiln
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We have worse alphas rn

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"rapid allmight"

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Especially if he has nagants main slot tunning

jaunty rune
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Having worse alphas doesn’t matter

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And yeah too the ground is too much but it needs a few changes

spare kiln
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By jumped i mean nagant doing the 350+ shot

jaunty rune
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Proper positioning and having overdrive fixes that

jaunty rune
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Hes fast but he leaves himself open for like .6 seconds on a few attacks so he does

spare kiln
jaunty rune
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Smokescreen seems to help though

spare kiln
jaunty rune
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Same I just use Fa Jin

spare kiln
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Like for example in a room nagant kills me as rapid deku but when am red deku tables got turned around she aint dodging a wall the size of a truck

jaunty rune
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Sometimes I’ll drop down a smokescreen in a doorway but I’m it great with how I use it

spare kiln
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Like actually confuse someone

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Don't you think the cloud is a bit small?

jaunty rune
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I noticed that dropping it on top of people when you knock them down works

jaunty rune
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Yeah then idk I’m not a smokescreen believer

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I don’t have the Strats unfortunately

spare kiln
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A rapid deku user using space hop tunning

jaunty rune
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What happened

spare kiln
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Bro fajin is literally free space hop

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😭

jaunty rune
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Oh yeah I’ve seen a few people use weird tunes on him

spare kiln
jaunty rune
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Excluding the free resist fire and all those I saw a spiralling leap one last season

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Ig they don’t wanna use Fa Jin

spare kiln
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Fajin high jump actually helped me alot

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I air alpha people running with it

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Imagine thinking ur safe only to see him pop outta no where

solar sail
solar sail
native drift
tropic lantern
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glgl

meager wharf
native drift
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i'm taking back my hello

tropic lantern
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That is not a good Yendo matchup lmao

native drift
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Its one of the worst, can't really do nothing cause his air melee goes through her shield and my teammates don't listen to the "Gather here" i did 4 times prior to u attacking me

tropic lantern
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yeah that's tough, not much to do

calm marlin
quiet birch
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Does anyone have any combos

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?

tropic lantern
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#1420328186213826691 message

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That’s about it

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You can put time into practicing the infinite if you want that

kindred spoke
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It got me out of situations I would not have gotten out of anyone else

solar sail
kindred spoke
sage marlin
sage marlin
mint falcon
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Whats the best tuning for OFA deku

tropic lantern
mint falcon
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ok

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thx

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So whats the best color scheme thing to invest in

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Like red and blue or purple and yellow and allat

tropic lantern
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Hp/gp damage, melee damage, alpha damage/reload

mint falcon
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I mean the colors for the outfit

tropic lantern
mint falcon
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ok

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is there an easy way to get embrittlement tuning

meager wharf
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Own yellow Shiggy or use yellow Shiggy data

spare kiln
tropic lantern
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Don’t run trance blows

fervent kite
neat dagger
forest musk
twilit edge
solar sail
native drift
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MidoriyaOFA I think its time for everyone to lab

forest musk
native drift
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the jumping bit is to get the flying kick off

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probably another perfect framing thing though

zenith grail
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Yeah the guy explicitly jumps to continue the combo

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Was discovered a while ago but iirc it’s pretty hard to do consistently

forest musk
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the timing is actually cancer i have only landed it once in training

zenith grail
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I know the dodge cancel only works with some characters and not all but visually they all look the same

native drift
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i wonder if fps also benefits this LOL

sullen stream
twilit edge
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lol

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i always beat rapidkus with kuro

twilit edge
tropic lantern
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One sec I have it somewhere in this chat

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#1420328186213826691 message

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There you go

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You can definitely get it consistent, you just have to know who can trigger it, some characters trigger it but the timing is tighter than others, easiest to do it on is normal AFO in my experience

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If the guy is explicitly jumping I'd love to see him do it on a character that doesn't trigger the jump from the roll

tropic lantern
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alright it is a thing, if someone is able to get it in training lmk, I needed to do it in pre game lobby

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inputs are really easy, you just press dodge and jump at the same time instead of just dodge

tropic lantern
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Also I can't get it to work with Fa Jin

native drift
zenith grail
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this guy still pretty dumb

spare kiln
spare kiln
twilit edge
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i feel like people that dont understand what kuro is capable of people that quite literally dont take things another lvl with kurogiri and think "Oh he just hes just a great support for reviving"
lol

spare kiln
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Hes allowed to use them to make some distance

twilit edge
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with his gamma

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it was funny ngl

spare kiln
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My thought was who let s8 deku in here

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😭

twilit edge
spare kiln
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(am the first to put them on one team)

torpid pier
solar sail
serene holly
spare kiln
fair zodiac
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I did manage to get air alpha twice in one combo but i didn’t record it

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Instead of air melee

fair zodiac
maiden obsidian
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Can we believe the fact that they should readd or bring back the melee loop if there is a balance patch in this maintenance I’m not sure whether there will be one anyways.

fair zodiac
forest musk
fair zodiac
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No the combo technically isn’t character specific but big body characters make it consistent after an air melee.

forest musk
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what about a regular loop without the aerial melee

fair zodiac
fair zodiac
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So it’s technically not character specific but it is height specific

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On top of that you have to do your inputs at the exact same time after the uppercut

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But it’s not just melee that works with this cancel you can cancel into any move he has

fair zodiac
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Same applies for beta aswell

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It’s so tight though that I think it’s pc only

forest musk
fair zodiac
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Also I have both melee and dodge roll as both of my side mouse buttons so that will also help

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You kinda just gotta lab it for a few hours until you get the timing consistently

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The most optimal combo he has is definitely this cancel into air alpha first hit and use beta on the second cancel because a second air alpha will hard knock

tropic lantern
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The timing in training is significantly tighter than in game so that's something to keep in mind, if you can get it semi consistent in training you'll get it everytime in game

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That goes for the normal loop and the air melee variant

fair zodiac
tropic lantern
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Try it out in pre game lobby, I'm sure you could pull it off

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Air melee variant of the combo is possible on any character outside of training too

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Might be able to do the air alpha on the whole cast

fair zodiac
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I cannot wait to play tomorrow then

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I’ve just been labing after school and work for the past 2 days

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Praying they give yellow deku a buff though

tropic lantern
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As long as Nagant is nerfed I'll take it

fair zodiac
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And shigi hitbox

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Played yellow with my brother and a teammate just him solo in a final circle he downs both of them but I get them both back up just for them to immediately die again and then his alpha hit behind him when I was ambushing him like 5 characters worth away

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No idea how that even got to live servers

tropic lantern
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We dodged nerfs

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So did every other top tier but whatever

spare kiln
tropic lantern
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yeah unlucky

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her and techmight banners are still up so it was wishful thinking

tropic lantern
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It never left lmao

limber geyser
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I mean the easy one

fair zodiac
fair zodiac
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Alpha and beta I did alpha 2nd to last

fair zodiac
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So only like top 100 rapid dekus will do it

maiden obsidian
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I gotta ask how do u do the dodge cancel part I can’t seem to do it i can only do it on a wall if I’m lucky

tropic lantern
maiden obsidian
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Alr

maiden obsidian
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Cuz once I hit the 3rd Melee I dodge.

tropic lantern
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It should be your 2nd

maiden obsidian
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Hold on

maiden obsidian
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I was wrong

solar sail
fair zodiac
tropic lantern
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Gratz!

nimble citrus
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man i wish i played with a keyboad i cant hit it unless im on keyboard..

nimble citrus
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ill play on keyboard just to spite you

nimble citrus
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😧 NO

fair zodiac
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I figured out by using a hotspot that if your internet connection is bad and you doing the melee combo it will consistently skip the 1st of the three uppercuts and start with 2nd

limber geyser
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So we lag switching

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😭

fair zodiac
humble night
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the majority of people who play rapid deku that make us look brain dead which causes stereotypes. So if I play Blue Deku people are going to immediately assume that I only play him because he's busted. The stereotyping has got to stop bro like most of us aren't brain dead mindless idiots who just press one button. Some of us actually have a brain and know how to use them properly. I play him because I love his gameplay style and how it suits with mine And I love his hero design.

whole root
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To be honest I only use him because Deku is my favorite anime character

zenith grail
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I spam 2 buttons

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melee and alpha

humble night
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I'm not calling anyone out I'm just saying that the stereotype needs to end

zenith grail
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My point is that his alpha is equally as braindead

humble night
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I don't care what anyone says he is a skillful character

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I mean he's not the most skillful character in the entire game but he's not easy to use either

zenith grail
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I mean depends on where you have the bar for skilful

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Every character in this game has to aim with some ability so every character takes skill?

zenith grail
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does Deku’s auto tracking air melee, huge AOE alpha insta knockdown 100+ dmg with a lock on gamma constitute skill?

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He definitely isn’t skill less as I think smokescreen usage shows a good ofa Deku from a bad one but aside from that it’s kinda yeah

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And I mean using the alpha more too which for some reason most OFA Deku’s don’t, despite it being the best ability he has

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Though it doesn’t take much skill to use it imo

tropic lantern
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Yeah he’s just not that hard to pick up and be effective with

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Character has a lot you can do with him though so just enjoy that aspect of him, it’s fine to admit he’s not a difficult character

jaunty rune
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Although theres alpha parrying which bumps up its skill aspect by a lot of you actually cancel the move

native drift
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i think we need to start figuring out foundations before a skill discussion arises at any point

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i notice that a lot with how there isn't a pre-determined ground for the ceiling but then once the convo happens the opinions or determinations vary so much u can't really pinpoint anything

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i personally just like the combo game regardless

jaunty rune
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as do i

jaunty rune
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Use alphas armor through sn attack and then cancelling into a beta gamma or roll to fight back without getting stunned

fathom furnace
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What are OFA's best costumes to tune?

jaunty rune
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i havent done an alpha parry

shut spindle
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Im trying to jump in melee combo and can only dodge

whole root
tropic lantern
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It is possible to jump in your melee but it’s pretty inconsistent if it’s not one of the characters on the list

whole smelt
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This character is literally uncounterble, in Ace rank ofa deku is the only thing I die to

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What can you do against him he's literally op

spare kiln
zenith grail
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I kill ofa Deku’s with nejire

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Does mean Nejire is better than OFA

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just means those players sucked massive dookie

spare kiln
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When you use someone for ages you learn how to beat him

zenith grail
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are you the guy whos in college

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and cant play

spare kiln
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I been in college since s14 not s13

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I been home the entirety of s13

zenith grail
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lol

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ofc

spare kiln
zenith grail
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That's not why I said ofc

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I said ofc because you're unable to play to back up your ridiculous argument

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Like there's no straight counter to rapid deku unless your rapid deku is a noob who intends on melee and gamma spamming

spare kiln
zenith grail
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I would literally destroy any assault deku lol

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by just alpha spamming

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and I don't really consider myself a great ofa deku

spare kiln
zenith grail
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I don't want to play with 100+ ping thanks

spare kiln
zenith grail
spare kiln
zenith grail
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I don't die to rapidku a lot lol

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I'm playing him and getting major gains

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camping people's wakeup with alpha

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it's disgusting

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did you think my complaining came from a place of losing to him

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hahahaha

spare kiln
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U play nagant dont you?

zenith grail
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I play a bit but I don't play only her

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and if I was losing to ofa deku on nagant I'd be a cooked player

spare kiln
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Cuz its boring to pick one for ever

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I want to start playing nejire

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Is festival outfit any good for tuning?

zenith grail
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you can put acceleration and wallrunner on it

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so its good i suppose

spare kiln
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Good its the only one i have 😭

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Well ofc after my exams are done that is😑

whole smelt
tropic lantern
whole smelt
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:/

tropic lantern
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If you have rapidmight beta you have enough mobility to get away from him

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But realistically you’re gonna need your team nearby

whole smelt
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maybe should run critical permeation just for him

tropic lantern
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That does help, gives you a ton of stall

whole smelt
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reason why i’m upset is because i’m trying to get to ace and was at 10k/12k and lost about 1k points due to being the first team to die in the match every time to ofa deku

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i really don’t understand why he is in the game and normalized

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to clarify why the way he plays, his kit, and damage is the way it is

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just too broken it’s un fun

zenith grail
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you're going to die to a lot of the cast at the start

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you're monoma

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with a 20% dmg nerf

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you're dealing peanuts damage

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this isn't me defending ofa deku but this could just genuinely be a skill issue

whole smelt
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oh i see that you said at the start, i see what you’re saying

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however if i happen to encounter him i believe there isn’t much i can do except stall for my team correct me if im wrong

grave patio
tropic lantern
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Stealing his alpha doesn’t work because he’s gear shifted and it comes out way faster

tropic lantern
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Yeah he’s a tough character to fight in a 1v1

grave patio
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ig you can get gear 2 gearshift if you copy gamma too at least

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but you need to start it up each time you switch quirks

tropic lantern
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Yikes that’s not great

grave patio
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yeah

whole smelt
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everytime i do that all i hear behind me is “the power of our bond” or something then he tp’s on me

tropic lantern
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I have voicelines off so I don’t know if that’s his gamma voiceline but if it is you need to learn how to roll it

zenith grail
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Bro you’re playing at a disadvantage

tropic lantern
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Yeah but I don’t have to hear “ILL GIVE EVERYTHING IVE GOT” “OVERDRIVE” “SMASH” every 3 seconds

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I’ll take it

tropic lantern
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Every other character is also annoying, I was just using Deku as an example

twilit edge
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You are playing hard mode!

native drift
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I wanna know how to turn off subtitles tbh

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i've seen someone have that on stream

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its not exactly clear how to do it

tropic lantern
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Muting pings would be awesome as well

vivid bison
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Cuz some mfs don't shut up

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Even if your doing what they want 💔

tropic lantern
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People just ping to ping and it's irritating, it feels bad because some people are actually just pinging loot but it gets so annoying

twilit edge
tropic lantern
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For sure better to have pings than not have pings but for how often it's abused in this game not having the option to mute is criminal

vivid bison
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Once had a shiggy ping so much I genuinely cldnt hear my surroundings

twilit edge
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oh god

native drift
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Some people also use pings incorrectly

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Spam pinging may express urgency but you're causing me my own distress cause ur distracting me

fervent kite
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And it's situational asf

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Tho most people don't know how to play him so it ends up being easier

fervent kite
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Always

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Him and Mirio's and win-cons is playing the long game

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Run around, loot, get your stuff together and then pick fights

whole smelt
frigid sonnet
fervent kite
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Against a PC Rapid Deku?

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Good luck.

limber geyser
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Jiro summoning ritual

spare kiln
maiden obsidian
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Why do u have 5 team heals bro

native drift
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random quick question, what button is yalls melee's on?

tropic lantern
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On PC, I use a mouse button

native drift
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Gotchu

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planned on putting my melee to Mouse 4 or 5

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just to see if it worked nicely

tropic lantern
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Find it more comfortable to have dodge and melee on separate hands

whole root
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How we feel about the smokescreen buff

tropic lantern
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It’s good

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I’ll take it over the beta stacks

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Overall buff for the character imo

native drift
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i'm surprised they didn't touch the Overdrive gamma

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having it take like 30/50% of the gamma if u actually lock on

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so you'd be choosing between either damage or movement

tropic lantern
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Beta slam wasn’t very good so it’s not a bad change for the character, he’s still doing great

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Slightly weaker indoors

native drift
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^

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Not mad abt this at all tbh, kinda dig both the nerf and buff

tropic lantern
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It’s a good sign for the characters future

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Not good for anyone who wants him nerfed

spare kiln
fervent kite
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I'm more surprised there's people who want diminishing returns for the melee overdrive refresh

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As if that wouldn't make rapid dekus be even more inclined go for melees

zenith grail
tropic lantern
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Time your wake ups better

zenith grail
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I just got forced to jump out of it after getting knocked right before lowering my I-frame time

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My wake up time isn’t an issue lmao

tropic lantern
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He can’t beta slam your wakeup on reaction

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You have to be choosing to wake up at the wrong time

zenith grail
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He can do it before your iframes run out…

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because some people like myself just know instinctually by now

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after hundreds of hours of playing

tropic lantern
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That gives you time to do stuff though…

zenith grail
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I had like 2 seconds of iframes

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or 3 actually

tropic lantern
zenith grail
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Anyway the ability is pretty good and the only reason why people don’t use it as much is because half the cast is in the sky

tropic lantern
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Like a vert jump

zenith grail
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jumping his beta slam does not work last I checked

tropic lantern
zenith grail
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fa jin is worse

tropic lantern
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Mhm

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You might be insane

zenith grail
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It’s very niche

tropic lantern
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Fa Jin is what makes his alpha so disgusting

zenith grail
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I’d rather use smokescreen in any other situation

tropic lantern
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You aren’t winning 1v1s against any Beamer without Fa Jin

zenith grail
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what makes his alpha disgusting is the ability to keep someone grounded permanently and camp their wake up

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while doing 100+ dmg per hit

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his air alpha is good but it’s not one of his best abilities

tropic lantern
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And Beamer characters can trade with your ground alpha and end up winning

zenith grail
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Beamer character I use smoke screen and ground alpha

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also a 1-1 trade with most beamers idk ofa Deku is winning that

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unless they hit two alphas or somehow have an alpha doing over 100 dmg

tropic lantern
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It’s not 1 to 1, they have like 3x your fire rate

zenith grail
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Fa Jin is just gonna make you an easier target imo

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The bunny hopping is cool

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but I wouldn’t count on it to save me in a pure Beamer fight

tropic lantern
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The movement is very jagged and rough, if you’re jumping around anything with verticality it makes you very very hard to hit

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Like house to house

zenith grail
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Yeah but you’re also only getting 1 air alpha off per bunny hop

tropic lantern
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For sure

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But you’re also moving really quickly while they’re not

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Also gives you the possibility to get a melee

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Fa Jin also makes your body really hard to camp, something that Deku struggles with

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It’s a faster space hop jump

meager wharf
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Anything that enhances movement for a long duration isn’t ‘niche’

An ability that hits ground targets is niche

meager wharf
zenith grail
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It was about a knack for knowing when someone’s wake up frames will run out

zenith grail
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Fa Jin is good but I always did worse with it on

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And I like using smoke screen when ground alpha wake up camping someone

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So if it eats into smokescreen then naturally I won’t use it

meager wharf
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That’s likely an issue with aim adjusting to movement

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If I had to guess

zenith grail
meager wharf
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Not a bash. It’s just a big momentum change

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Also having base kit space hop is incredibly strong

zenith grail
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I mean probably but I don’t main this character either

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to get used enough to it

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and again with the way I play that I stated above

meager wharf
#

Well that goes against your “hundreds of hours” statement

zenith grail
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fa Jin doesn’t work for me

zenith grail
meager wharf
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I did

zenith grail
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you just saw hundreds of hours and assumed I was talking about me being an mlg pro esports player

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😭

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Like I said

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I’m talking on the GAME

meager wharf
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Yes

zenith grail
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not on any specific character

meager wharf
#

Good equivocation

zenith grail
#

and it was mainly for the fact of knowing when iframes disappear

meager wharf
#

Don’t think I can engage with this

zenith grail
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Okay, bye

meager wharf
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Just so we are clear on this point

zenith grail
#

Yeah it was not about merit it was about knowledge

meager wharf
zenith grail
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I mean I suppose there’s probably a good chunk but I don’t think I would be wrong in saying over half the people playing this game for hundreds of hours probably do pick up knowledge on stuff about i-frames, storm damage, counters, etc.

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But like I said you’re also right in saying not everyone does.

meager wharf
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All this to say, proper i-frame use can USUALLY avoid the beta, and honestly half the reason it’s possible is because of his voice line during the ability.

In a meta where 1 shot-ing is possible, I just think the movement from Fa Jin is more helpful than a slam that, even though it doesn’t leave you very vulnerable, is not reliable damage in a lot of cases, especially seeing that ground gameplay is a thing of the past

zenith grail
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I sprinted away but it didn’t matter lol

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Eh maybe with Fa Jin it’s not bad but I just like the beta slam better

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Even flying heroes need to land every once in a while

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But obvs now it’s not even worth it unless you have 3-5% left and you can’t melee

tropic lantern
#

Probably better to chill out if your gearshift is gonna end but I get the idea

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That’ll be even less safe after the patch since you’ll be out of betas

fervent kite
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That's pretty rare unless you were in the most open zone possible with zero movement

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Any verticality dodges it and you can even cancel the slam by hitting him halfway through

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He doesn't have an active hitbox when coming down

zenith grail
#

If it was an open space it'd be easier for me to avoid it

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anyway I'll try jumping next time lol

fervent kite
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"Oh, make overdrive restore 15%"

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Cue all the rapid Dekus being even more melee addicted

nimble citrus
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No im saying u are my brother

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We are hachi

nimble citrus
fervent kite
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OH

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The Hachi legion

nimble citrus
mint falcon
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What is optimal tuning right now

tropic lantern
maiden obsidian
tropic lantern
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Nah not really, it’s 5% damage so unless it’s helping you hit breakpoints on 350/400hp characters which it doesn’t I don’t really see the use over other tunings

jaunty rune
#

it also lasts 10 seconds and goes on a cooldown iron fist kinda sucks

maiden obsidian
#

Alr preciate it

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I just seen patch notes

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Dekus down power got nerfed

tropic lantern
#

Unfort nerf

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The combo where you add a jump melee is bad to do now

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Assuming “aerial combat” means his air melee

maiden obsidian
#

Welp

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U got the wall melee combo

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They might nerf that later on though

tropic lantern
#

This doesn’t affect his actual infinite

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Just when you catch someone with shields near a ledge

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And anyone still doing the flurry air melee flurry air melee combo

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That is dead

maiden obsidian
#

How do u do the ledge tech

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I’ve only been struggling with that

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Are you meant to dash off the ledge then melee?

tropic lantern
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roll off ledge and press melee

maiden obsidian
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Alr

spare kiln
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@tropic lantern bro u had a heated argument there 😭

tropic lantern
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Was it that bad?

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passionate argument

spare kiln
zenith grail
spare kiln
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U just cant dodge the most obvious move known to man kind

zenith grail
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Anyway why are you still responding to something days old

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go play the new season

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I literally do not care anymore

spare kiln
zenith grail
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ok bud

tropic lantern
#

Alright the down power on the air melee being increased shouldn't be too noticeable

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Not going to 100 to 0 someone with shields if they're near a ledge and that's about it

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if anyones doing the air melee into flurry combo shorten it by 1

zenith grail
tropic lantern
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Why would his melee loop be gone?

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Only thing that got changed was his air melee down power

zenith grail
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he got his loops removed after his season

tropic lantern
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if ur talking about the patch months ago it go figured out literally the day of

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it didn't get removed

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the timing is just tighter

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apparently you haven't kept up with the game at all

zenith grail
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No I just don't think anyone talks about this character

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and it isn't true loops anyway because he couldn't do a 3rd loop

tropic lantern
#

It is a true loop, he's just bad lol

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but yeah harder to do than it was

zenith grail
#

I've played 500 games last season
127 hours in the past 2 weeks

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browse the subreddit daily

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have mhur twitter feed

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look at this chat

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and have never seen anyone talk about how the timing simply just got tighter

tropic lantern
#

probably don't read this chat much then

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It gets brought up like once a week

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it's all people care about here

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Pretty sure I've explained the loop to people at least 5 times since the patch

zenith grail
#

People talk about dodge cancelling

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and ledge cancelling

tropic lantern
#

Improving your dodge timing is the loop

zenith grail
#

dodge cancelling would mean you wouldn't actually dodge though

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I've seen the videos of it

tropic lantern
#

if you do the correct dodge timing on certain characters it cancels

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they're the same thing just character specific

zenith grail
#

well okay

zenith grail
tropic lantern
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Loop works on anyone, you only get the cancel effect on certain characters

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#1420328186213826691 message

zenith grail
#

okay yeah that is what you mean

tropic lantern
#

Yup exactly

zenith grail
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@tropic lantern nah they def made this easier

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idk how to dodge cancel and even im able to do it

tropic lantern
#

The timing is not very tight in game

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training it’s a little bit tougher

meager wharf
#

Just got slightly harder to do

tropic lantern
#

I’ll check in game to be sure it didn’t get even easier though, it’s very possible

native drift
#

the flying kick loop probably got easier cause of the system change i'll say (referring to the flying kick loop after 2nd gut punch)

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still very tight timing though

fervent kite
#

The flying kick got nerfed tho so no point in doing it

tropic lantern
#

yeah you can't use it anymore

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Even more incentive to learn the infinite now

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and for characters where you do a flying kick mid combo you'll have to get used to not doing it or it'll break your chain

fair zodiac
zenith grail
#

To me what he did just looks like normal looping

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But it’s apparently dodge cancelling so as I already stated, I am wrong.

tropic lantern
#

For whatever reason our melees are giving extra lift on shielded people making the loop just as easy to do on shields as hp

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So the down power increase on the air melee definitely sucks but this is significantly better in terms of trade off

abstract seal
#

is dekus thing still perception and trance?

meager wharf
tropic lantern
#

Trance is really really really really really really really bad after the down power change to his air melee

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if you air alpha someone before air melee you will be putting them in the knock down state

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and any potential combos with your melee is completely dead

frigid sonnet
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It's not infinite anymore but you can loop it once or twice until they touch the ground

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The loops were never patched, they just became more situational

zenith grail
#

why are half the people here addicted to adding nothing onto a already finished conversation from yesterday

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you are literally explaining what i already know and what was already discussed

spare kiln
meager wharf
# zenith grail This chat is actually kinda making me mad bro

If you stop tryna beef with people just to get dunked on, it’ll be a bit less frustrating. People are intending to help. That’s mostly the purpose of these channels.

People don’t feel like reading whole conversations. They’ll see something and respond

meager wharf
#

Unless you consider Nagant killing through willpower

spare kiln
meager wharf
meager wharf
#

Honestly avoiding willpower is the main importance just because of down power

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Sorry

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Trance blow

spare kiln
#

Turns out its trance blow ☠️

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Am going back to iron fist

zenith grail
zenith grail
#

However I am allowed to feel that people should do the bare minimum of reading a conversation before responding to it

spare kiln
meager wharf
solar sail
zenith grail
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for other characters

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so specifically this character's players just don't like reading

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🤷‍♂️

meager wharf
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Don’t know what to tell you. It’s not that big a deal if people respond to an old message that has a conversation after it answering the questions. It is what it is

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Like you said, it’s not that serious

abstract seal
spare kiln
#

While shamelessly defending nagant by all means possible

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When her snipe shot negates will power

zenith grail
spare kiln
zenith grail
#

the quickscoping?

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I mean yeah I didn't really mind it but I think the nerf was good cause you could basically not even see the scope before tbf

spare kiln
zenith grail
#

But the quickscoping was like not even a top 5 issue of nagant

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so thats why I didn't really care

spare kiln
zenith grail
#

because surprise surprise she's still top 1

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Anyway I've criticised deku being dumb like 2-3 times here at best

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Because he is

spare kiln
#

Well he no longer is

zenith grail
#

s14 just released even more disgustingly broken characters

zenith grail
#

so he, strike hawks, tech mirio and whatnot are getting overshadowed

spare kiln
#

Can we nerf that mf AAM

zenith grail
#

him and nagant ya

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tech shiggy doing 250 on his beta is crazy too

spare kiln
zenith grail
#

when strike shoto's just got his nerfed

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and he can't even travel with his beta

spare kiln
#

And one hit me when i was outside the aoe

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Whats with his kit

spare kiln
meager wharf
spare kiln
#

U cant spam that shi anymore

meager wharf
#

Doesn’t matter hahaha

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It’s the weakest part of his kit

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In higher level lobbies at least

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The beta is either niche or a pub stomper

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Tech Shiggy got some shadow nerfs. But he’s still top 3ish probably

zenith grail
#

I could do more than 1 beta slam in gamma

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is it a next season change?

zenith grail
#

but yeah I'd just consider it an undodgeable attack

zenith grail
native drift
#

i'm surprised yall still running trance blow on ppl that gain some value off of decent combos, its better if those combos or sets don't drop early, trance blow cuts your resistance in Half so you get knocked quicker

tropic lantern
meager wharf
native drift
#

after the last two seasons

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💀

spare kiln
tropic lantern
#

His worst ability?

spare kiln
tropic lantern
#

Wouldn’t just killing someone with a melee loop be way better in close rooms

spare kiln
tropic lantern
#

I don’t think stick drift effects the loop

spare kiln
tropic lantern
#

Most aggressive stick drift known to man

spare kiln
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The moment i try to use the second loop that thing sways off the course

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No wonder i can't get kills right 😑

tropic lantern
#

Doesn’t make his beta much better regardless

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Unsafe ability

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Easily avoidable

spare kiln
tropic lantern
#

So like Ibara?

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Think that’s it

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And they can just grab you out of it

spare kiln
#

Overhaul too

tropic lantern
#

Overhaul will put you in a cage

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And do 300 damage

spare kiln
#

Then why did no one slap me out of it before

tropic lantern
#

Happy for you

spare kiln
#

I can no longer use a 2nd dash after the first slam

tropic lantern
#

Yeah

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Characters gutted, gg

spare kiln
spare kiln
#

Once i hit expert they throw me in ace lobbies

meager wharf
spare kiln
#

Say why fo expert get paired up with aces 😭

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What kind of match making system is that

meager wharf
#

But no one in Ace should be hitting beta consistently was the underlying statement

tropic lantern
spare kiln
spare kiln
tropic lantern
#

Byking Bandai namco

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So probably John Byking

meager wharf
#

Izuku Midoriya

spare kiln
#

These devs make me think EA is good

native drift
#

Izuku Midoriya.....

warped orchid
jaunty rune
#

its so easy it basically is yeah

tropic lantern
lunar blaze
#

I lowk want this deku casue

  1. smoke screen is aura farming
  2. get a down -> FA JIN -> thank you thank you thank you
spare kiln
#

Did they shadow nerf his melee people are escaping out the 3 to 5 melee chain for overdrive

#

Yes

tropic lantern
#

Wdym

spare kiln
#

Yuh people are just escaping when getting hit by uppercitd

tropic lantern
#

Haven't noticed anything different with it the past 2 days

fair zodiac
spare kiln
fair zodiac
#

I thought you were asking why you can’t do a full melee combo after landing an overdrive

spare kiln
fair zodiac
#

Might be lag

spare kiln
limber geyser
#

Oh wait I just did what was annoying

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In my defence it was the first thing that showed when I opened the channel

abstract seal
#

Is leather style combat better than quirk assist gear combat?

#

or is it just preference?

tropic lantern
#

I prefer Willpower but it's mainly just preference

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If you would rather have the purple slot then go for it

native drift
#

i actually find it funny how i can still consistently do his loops

#

it really doesn't feel like they did anything (they lowkey didn't) but i'm speaking in a sense where it still feels hella easy to do

tropic lantern
#

They feel even easier this patch, not sure why

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I think you can catch people lower than last patch

#

I'm getting some where people are basically in the floor

native drift
#

same situation

#

even without that happening i still catch them

#

i'm sure they didn't....adjust....anything

fervent kite
#

Opening any chat on this server really exposes you to seeing the most atrocious things ever

#

Why are we acting like the beta nerf was something terrible for the character and not how it should've been from the beginning

tropic lantern
#

We got the biggest shadow buff possible as compensation too

#

Byking loves us

fervent kite
#

The MidoriyaOFA agenda lives on

meager wharf
fervent kite
#

Apparently the beta nerf isn't even working?

#

Bro is actually ducking nerfs

meager wharf
#

Naturally

native drift
#

i did one beta slam

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and still had the other round

tropic lantern
#

It’s only if you do it after dashing

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Which could be their intent

native drift
#

🤔 Yeah just tested it, its also easy to ignore cause you could just do the dash slam after using the other round previously already on basic dashing

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i'm surprised they didn't restrict it a bit

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i mean i wouldn't want to waste those betas personally

#

but still

#

can be hella viable in a team setting

thin locust
tropic lantern
#

Man people really can’t read more than a line in this chat

#

Mandatory reading lessons for everyone subscribed to this thread

thin locust
#

right bro

#

right

fervent kite
meager wharf
thin locust
#

right bro

#

right

maiden obsidian
vivid bison
#

Not sure what causes it tbh

meager wharf
vivid bison
meager wharf
zenith grail
#

Thinking of making a hp sucker and black arm build for this guy

#

Mainly just cause i want to use black arm on him

#

but the easy access hp sounds good too

vivid bison
zenith grail
#

Not that useful

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And his sa already comes back fast

solar sail
tropic lantern
#

At that point just run hyper regen + revenge support

#

Black arms a weird tuning, curious how much value people are getting from it

jaunty rune
#

It seems like a fun gimmick tune but that’s about it

#

Idk I haven’t seen anyone really run it

tropic lantern
#

Haven’t either

#

I don’t like down tunings regardless, aside from special action recharge, usually want tunings that help you kill people, not help after

fervent kite
#

Crushing PU goated tho

#

Lets you snowball like crazy

tropic lantern
#

PU also carries to other fights which makes it better than normal down tunings

zenith grail
#

125 hp heal on finish

#

Only getting knocked if the move is 500 dp

#

and combined with your smoke it’s pretty perfect

tropic lantern
#

Do finishers stop fast rezzes like Froppy?

zenith grail
#

yes

zenith grail
tropic lantern
#

Was just making sure that’s what you meant by it

#

I see the potential

fringe blade
#

What’s the best tuning for Ofa deku

ivory pasture
#

in this current meta hyper regen & tech support thts wht everyone is running apparently

#

i still play this deku but its hard asf to do his combos on switch lol

meager wharf
ivory pasture
lunar blaze
#

Best ofa deku tuning? i think imam get him with pity i hate 180 / 200

tropic lantern
#

With how many teams are left in final circle it’s hyper regen + revenge support

willow rover
#

Can anyone tell me how to do the m1 chain combo?

tropic lantern
#

The M1 in the middle of your melee chain?

meager wharf
lunar blaze
forest musk
#

for some reason the melee loop is 100x easier in actual games than training

tropic lantern
#

The loop this patch basically got reverted to the same difficulty it was when the character released

#

So really easy

native drift
#

i met a cheating OFA Deku once

#

Inf loop but the way the 2nd punch worked is that it triggered a actual stun instead of keeping u afloat in the gut punch

#

so he could just do it over and over again

vivid bison
lavish prawn
#

Hey yall, does anybody know what's better, Willpower+Embrittlement, Trance+Embrittlement, Willpower+Wall runner, or Trance+wall runner?

meager wharf
#

Never trance blown

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Blow*

lavish prawn
#

dang fr? everyone was using it when he first released

meager wharf
#

Doesn’t need wall runner

meager wharf
tropic lantern
lavish prawn
#

ohhh

#

OH

#

OHHHHHH I REMEMBER THAT ISSUE I TOTALLY FORGOTTT

#

i havent played in a few months 😭

#

thanks guys

meager wharf
#

Perception, embrittlement, hyper regen, revenge support, willpower are all good

lavish prawn
#

got it, thanks so much!!

frigid sonnet
vivid bison
jaunty rune
jaunty rune
#

i gotta play him more

meager wharf
#

Another one

jaunty rune
ivory pasture
jaunty rune
#

to my knowledge its impossible on switch

icy wraith
#

So im new to this charater and I wanna know how are yall melee looping I been trying and they drop after I roll back

zenith grail
#

roll immediately after the 2nd punch up into the air

#

you also might need to be in overdrive already

tropic lantern
#

Yeah 5th gear helps since it increases your speed

#

Should also roll through them instead of back

#

He has extra height in the clip above so it’s fine to roll back but it’s more consistent if you roll through

icy wraith
#

Okay bet I will try those out

tropic lantern
#

Oh start with an air melee

#

You can’t do it in training without it (at least I haven’t)

#

practicing on flat ground is typically better

#

And it’s harder to do in training than in game

icy wraith
#

I dont think imma be able to play this charater

tropic lantern
#

Definitely rolling way late

proud geode
#

Nerf him

tropic lantern
#

Nagant nerfs first and it’s a deal

tropic lantern
#

Nagant nuked from orbit and then we can start looking at Deku

meager wharf
#

“Please don’t hit smoke screen again!!” 👉🏻👈🏻

#

Not the beta!!!! Noooooo

#

And don’t you dare make it so my infinite combo isn’t as easy!!

tropic lantern
#

Can’t believe they gutted him 😔

fervent kite
#

Pretty sure it's getting buffed next season to disable aim assist inside it's AoE

zenith grail
#

doesn’t do much for me personally

#

wish they would just make it have a bit wider aoe

spare kiln
zenith grail
#

yes

spare kiln
#

Am kinda lost

nimble citrus
#

Make him support

zenith grail
spare kiln
spare kiln
zenith grail
#

but if you want to replace it with something else go ahead i guess

spare kiln
#

Wanna beam people when they get stunned

zenith grail
spare kiln
#

Lvl 11 is 14.5 or 15

zenith grail
#

thats the time you're elctrified for

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not the time it stuns

#

it stuns for like a second

#

less time than a strike denki gamma stun

spare kiln
#

Idk i check the database they didnt clarify it

#

They simply wrote 14 and dipped

#

They didn't even clarify shi

zenith grail
#

this is why u test with 1-2 star costumes

#

hope u didnt spend any resources setting up a build for that with a 3*

spare kiln
#

Purs*

whole root