#Midoriya (OFA)
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if you feel like you're getting really good beta value every game I wouldn't say it's wrong to upgrade it second
but I like not having to reset gearshift as often
I usually do Alpha 5, Beta 5 and then dont really mess with Gamma
I do gamma max, alpha max, then beta max
Fair I just dont like using GearShift in my opinion
The speed boost from being in top gear alone makes it more worth than the beta imo
Yeah true I just sometimes grt bored of just popping GearShift and using the auto lock
If that makes sense
That’s why I use it
If you do use overdrive the value is from spiking someone in the air for double alpha
Because on low level gamma I keep Fa Jin in my back pocket to make up for mobility
Yeah you right I think I also like being more aggro yo
Yk
I mostly use overdrive to recharge gamma if they’re on the ground or to catch flying ppl
Other than that I have no use for it bc it just TANKS your gamma duration
Like 30~% right?
Yeah so if you use over drive a lot you better have wall runner tuning or have fa Jin saved
Fa Jin + forward jump side alpha gives me hella momentum
I go a4 g4 b9 a9 g9
Well heres mine if it helps i go beta and gamma to lvl 4 at first then alpha to lvl 4 then i max gamma and beta the. Alpha
with this guy does ur beta recharge in the air
No
Same w gamma, it does not recharge in the air
Did his gamma get slightly nerfed cause it’s not hitting every time like it used to. Granted this only happens in some cases against nagant rapid bakugo armored all might and a small few others but I wanna make sure I’m not trippin
Just ppl know how to evade it better
Type
It's very easy to evade on the ground and in the air it misses sometimes but thats always happened
How are rapid deku community doing today
I know this is gonna sound crazy but for me it never missed in the air until recently but on the ground yea I’ve seen people dodge it better
It's not crazy to say
That’s why I was surprised at first when it started missing like he would catch up to a person stun them for the punch but the actual punch itself started whiffing
Not really when you have spiralling leap and space hop built into the character
Fa Jin isn't as floaty
Fa Jin is good enough for me to not use SL or SH
Fair enough
I just use Fa Jin for forward mobility tho
I like alpha kiting so maybe it's preference
Way too floaty
Your alpha isn’t good enough to trade with a lot of the beamer characters
Fa Jin fits it perfectly
I mostly use it to knock ppl down and for wake up punish
ive joined the dark side
It’s fun here
Okay someone just did the loop on me
how is it still possible
How do you even do it
Has to be on health or you catch someone higher up than usual
If you cancel your dodge pretty perfectly you can loop forever still
If you practice it in training and get it consistent you can always do it in game, it’s significantly easier in game than in training
I use it to lock people outside the safe area
Really hyping up the beta in that feedback
Especially the slam that any character with verticality can avoid
Literally the only good thing about it is 45% having such a short startup speed and ig it's dmg since it's like 140+, except for that quintuple smash can be avoided by just jumping no movement needed, and it has alot of endlag when missed
I hope whenever they nerf rapidku they buff quintuple's hitbox and smokescreen.
Would be nice, can’t remember the last time I didn’t just use the slam for mobility
Alpha by far is the best part of his kit
I wouldn’t mind if he dodges nerfs completely though
The way most dekus play is really unsafe and not that strong
He totally deserves nerfs though
The feedback is over much
Either that player is using s1 characters and getting koed for it or hes just that bad
😭
Am here dodging rapid deku with red deku
Ik he plays overhaul because he’s a regular in that chat and ik he plays twice because he talks there quite a bit too
Idk if he plays anyone else though
He using grounded characters and complaining about a character who has an ez time killing ground characters?
His feedback in short is making rapid deku worse than assault deku
I don’t think I taught him how to deal with some matchups on overhaul so I don’t think he can’t deal with some characters as easily
Well rapid deku on gear 5 is a nightmare for grounded characters and overhaul aint got much movement
While rapidku still needs nerfs and is still strong the overhaul matchup isnt as hopeless as the changes seem to make him out to be
Ik
I play overhaul
Definitely not the alpha
But the dude in the feedback "lock on should use 100% of the gauge" 😭
Grounded alpha needs to get nerfed to the ground ngl
It’s got everything
Speed size armor damage and a hard knockdown
To the ground is too much
We have worse alphas rn
"rapid allmight"
Especially if he has nagants main slot tunning
Having worse alphas doesn’t matter
And yeah too the ground is too much but it needs a few changes
Tho grounded version does make him kinda vanrauble cux makes him stuck to the floor so anyone around csn hit him (literally how i got jumped yesterday)
By jumped i mean nagant doing the 350+ shot
Proper positioning and having overdrive fixes that
Yeah no rapidku is a negative matchup for nagant
Hes fast but he leaves himself open for like .6 seconds on a few attacks so he does
Thats what i thought i literally killed her with red deku more times than rapid 😭
Smokescreen seems to help though
I should use it more ngl
Same I just use Fa Jin
Like for example in a room nagant kills me as rapid deku but when am red deku tables got turned around she aint dodging a wall the size of a truck
Sometimes I’ll drop down a smokescreen in a doorway but I’m it great with how I use it
I wanna learn how to make it useful in battle
Like actually confuse someone
Don't you think the cloud is a bit small?
I noticed that dropping it on top of people when you knock them down works
I do that to ko them yuh
I saw the dumbest thing today in game😭
A rapid deku user using space hop tunning
What happened
This
Bro fajin is literally free space hop
😭
Oh yeah I’ve seen a few people use weird tunes on him
Why would you use space hope when fajin does the same thing for free😭
Excluding the free resist fire and all those I saw a spiralling leap one last season
Ig they don’t wanna use Fa Jin
If you never used fajin om rapid deku please play someone else 😭
Fajin high jump actually helped me alot
I air alpha people running with it
Imagine thinking ur safe only to see him pop outta no where
It's good in certain scenarios where you enter a fight without fajin or if you're in the mist of battle and gearshift ran out It's useful but not a must run
I wish quintuple smash wasn't the most useless move in the game🥀
see u in my match, wanted to say hello
glgl
Putting a target on your head is crazy
i'm taking back my hello
That is not a good Yendo matchup lmao
Its one of the worst, can't really do nothing cause his air melee goes through her shield and my teammates don't listen to the "Gather here" i did 4 times prior to u attacking me
yeah that's tough, not much to do
true true
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That’s about it
You can put time into practicing the infinite if you want that
It's not
It got me out of situations I would not have gotten out of anyone else
I over exaggerated it, but it's the most useless in his kit
Yea
If I wanna do dekus old melee combos I have to learn perfect roll canceling right, otherwise I go with the air melee version you attached?
Yup exactly
Bet ty 
Whats the best tuning for OFA deku
Embrittlement/Card Dupe
Perception/Willpower
hyper regen/revenge support
ok
thx
So whats the best color scheme thing to invest in
Like red and blue or purple and yellow and allat
Hp/gp damage, melee damage, alpha damage/reload
I mean the colors for the outfit
Whichever outfits have these colors
Own yellow Shiggy or use yellow Shiggy data
What relish said plus
Trance blow and embrittlement or iron fist and embrittlement
Don’t run trance blows
Not only that, you can meet him halfway since he has no active hitbox when going up or down
I was lowk kinda hoping when I saw the overdrive beta that you could collide into ppl like strike Deku but nah
https://vxtwitter.com/MqrbuL/status/1999435520502644823
what are the inputs for this
thats a joke right?
an overexaggeration
the guy said you should be doing a dodge jump strike in one frame
I think its time for everyone to lab
yeah i dont think u jump at all i just dont get the roll timing in particular
the jumping bit is to get the flying kick off
probably another perfect framing thing though
Yeah the guy explicitly jumps to continue the combo
Was discovered a while ago but iirc it’s pretty hard to do consistently
apparently when u roll some characters just make u jump so it triggers the aerial variant
the timing is actually cancer i have only landed it once in training
Hm that shouldn’t be the case
I know the dodge cancel only works with some characters and not all but visually they all look the same
i wonder if fps also benefits this LOL
How do you lose to a Kurogiri 💀
by underestimating the kurogiri
lol
i always beat rapidkus with kuro
It is the case
One sec I have it somewhere in this chat
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There you go
You can definitely get it consistent, you just have to know who can trigger it, some characters trigger it but the timing is tighter than others, easiest to do it on is normal AFO in my experience
If the guy is explicitly jumping I'd love to see him do it on a character that doesn't trigger the jump from the roll
alright it is a thing, if someone is able to get it in training lmk, I needed to do it in pre game lobby
inputs are really easy, you just press dodge and jump at the same time instead of just dodge
Also I can't get it to work with Fa Jin
of course i get another when i'm searching mhur lol https://x.com/GLuck__unp/status/2007515760663646490?s=20
Th suit looks peak tho
I go throw his portals cuz gamma lock on 😭
Who said they can only be used to escape
i feel like people that dont understand what kuro is capable of people that quite literally dont take things another lvl with kurogiri and think "Oh he just hes just a great support for reviving"
lol
When did i mention that i just said i follow him with lock on through them
Hes allowed to use them to make some distance
No im kidding I saw that he legit could follow u half across the map even if u portal 😭
with his gamma
it was funny ngl
I was flabbergasted when it first happend
My thought was who let s8 deku in here
😭
watch when they release supreme Bakugo he'll do the same thing but itll be in his kit 😭
I dont wanna see them on one team
(am the first to put them on one team)
Guys I tried :/
You tried and did well
He never stopped being dumb
It looks great stop doubting your self
im finally starting to get the hang of his 1 frame cancel
I did manage to get air alpha twice in one combo but i didn’t record it
Instead of air melee
i almost got double alpha again but i messed up on the 2nd air alpha
Can we believe the fact that they should readd or bring back the melee loop if there is a balance patch in this maintenance I’m not sure whether there will be one anyways.
The main things to do it is both getting the roll input but also after the air melee you can’t mash but delay right after the air melee by the tinniest little bit
delay the melee after the roll ?
No the combo technically isn’t character specific but big body characters make it consistent after an air melee.
what about a regular loop without the aerial melee
When I do it in this after the air melee that starts the combo I delay by the tinniest amount
They both are the same
So it’s technically not character specific but it is height specific
On top of that you have to do your inputs at the exact same time after the uppercut
But it’s not just melee that works with this cancel you can cancel into any move he has
For this video in the final 10 seconds I use an air alpha instead of melee
Same applies for beta aswell
It’s so tight though that I think it’s pc only
Also I have both melee and dodge roll as both of my side mouse buttons so that will also help
You kinda just gotta lab it for a few hours until you get the timing consistently
The most optimal combo he has is definitely this cancel into air alpha first hit and use beta on the second cancel because a second air alpha will hard knock
The timing in training is significantly tighter than in game so that's something to keep in mind, if you can get it semi consistent in training you'll get it everytime in game
That goes for the normal loop and the air melee variant
Wait really I would love to hit someone with the air alpha version in beta cancel then
Try it out in pre game lobby, I'm sure you could pull it off
Air melee variant of the combo is possible on any character outside of training too
Might be able to do the air alpha on the whole cast
I cannot wait to play tomorrow then
I’ve just been labing after school and work for the past 2 days
Praying they give yellow deku a buff though
As long as Nagant is nerfed I'll take it
And shigi hitbox
Played yellow with my brother and a teammate just him solo in a final circle he downs both of them but I get them both back up just for them to immediately die again and then his alpha hit behind him when I was ambushing him like 5 characters worth away
No idea how that even got to live servers
She isn't they buffed red deku tho
..no it shouldn't be back what
It never left lmao
I mean the easy one
testing some more but I think this is his highest damaging combo but I whiffed the alpha
you mean the beta?
Alpha and beta I did alpha 2nd to last
ts aint even fair
ur tellin me they evolved after the nerf
Funny enough it’s even stronger than the old infinite but it’s 10 times harder to do at all because it’s frame perfect
So only like top 100 rapid dekus will do it
I gotta ask how do u do the dodge cancel part I can’t seem to do it i can only do it on a wall if I’m lucky
You’re pressing dodge too late, or doing it on a character that it doesn’t cancel
Alr
Do you know when you should dodge specifically?
Cuz once I hit the 3rd Melee I dodge.
like third uppercut?
It should be your 2nd
Hold on
I like that he still has his old combos, it's just way harder to do
I hit the tech in a match
Gratz!
man i wish i played with a keyboad i cant hit it unless im on keyboard..
ill play on keyboard just to spite you
😧 NO
I figured out by using a hotspot that if your internet connection is bad and you doing the melee combo it will consistently skip the 1st of the three uppercuts and start with 2nd
No I was using it to lab at school😭🙏
the majority of people who play rapid deku that make us look brain dead which causes stereotypes. So if I play Blue Deku people are going to immediately assume that I only play him because he's busted. The stereotyping has got to stop bro like most of us aren't brain dead mindless idiots who just press one button. Some of us actually have a brain and know how to use them properly. I play him because I love his gameplay style and how it suits with mine And I love his hero design.
I feel you
To be honest I only use him because Deku is my favorite anime character
yeah I’m not braindead I don’t spam 1 button
I spam 2 buttons
melee and alpha
I'm not calling anyone out I'm just saying that the stereotype needs to end
Respectable
I know
My point is that his alpha is equally as braindead
I don't care what anyone says he is a skillful character
I mean he's not the most skillful character in the entire game but he's not easy to use either
I mean depends on where you have the bar for skilful
Every character in this game has to aim with some ability so every character takes skill?
I agree
does Deku’s auto tracking air melee, huge AOE alpha insta knockdown 100+ dmg with a lock on gamma constitute skill?
He definitely isn’t skill less as I think smokescreen usage shows a good ofa Deku from a bad one but aside from that it’s kinda yeah
And I mean using the alpha more too which for some reason most OFA Deku’s don’t, despite it being the best ability he has
Though it doesn’t take much skill to use it imo
Yeah he’s just not that hard to pick up and be effective with
Character has a lot you can do with him though so just enjoy that aspect of him, it’s fine to admit he’s not a difficult character
Yeah no it’s really easy to hit
Although theres alpha parrying which bumps up its skill aspect by a lot of you actually cancel the move
i think we need to start figuring out foundations before a skill discussion arises at any point
i notice that a lot with how there isn't a pre-determined ground for the ceiling but then once the convo happens the opinions or determinations vary so much u can't really pinpoint anything
i personally just like the combo game regardless
as do i
Parrying?
Use alphas armor through sn attack and then cancelling into a beta gamma or roll to fight back without getting stunned
What are OFA's best costumes to tune?
Show a clip
i havent done an alpha parry
How do you guys even do this
Im trying to jump in melee combo and can only dodge
Pc
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It is possible to jump in your melee but it’s pretty inconsistent if it’s not one of the characters on the list
This character is literally uncounterble, in Ace rank ofa deku is the only thing I die to
What can you do against him he's literally op
Who you playing as?
I kill him with assault deku what are ya talking about
please do not use this as a baseline
I kill ofa Deku’s with nejire
Does mean Nejire is better than OFA
just means those players sucked massive dookie
No I just know how to counter my own main
When you use someone for ages you learn how to beat him
Exams aint 3 month jesus in what place does exams last 3 months
That's not why I said ofc
I said ofc because you're unable to play to back up your ridiculous argument
Like there's no straight counter to rapid deku unless your rapid deku is a noob who intends on melee and gamma spamming
I played him during his prime and still could beat him he was nerfed right after i left wasn't he?
I would literally destroy any assault deku lol
by just alpha spamming
and I don't really consider myself a great ofa deku
Play Japanese servers those guy are the menaces
I don't want to play with 100+ ping thanks
You actually scared of 100 ping ☠️
I don't fancy playing a high latency game in a ranked scenario yes
When u start being able to play at 150 come back and tell me ur dying to rapid deku alot
I don't die to rapidku a lot lol
I'm playing him and getting major gains
camping people's wakeup with alpha
it's disgusting
did you think my complaining came from a place of losing to him
hahahaha
U play nagant dont you?
I play a bit but I don't play only her
and if I was losing to ofa deku on nagant I'd be a cooked player
Well that's a shocker i also dont play rapid deku 24/7
Cuz its boring to pick one for ever
I want to start playing nejire
Is festival outfit any good for tuning?
Monoma
All you can really do is gamma spam, not the easiest matchup for Monoma
:/
If you have rapidmight beta you have enough mobility to get away from him
But realistically you’re gonna need your team nearby
maybe should run critical permeation just for him
That does help, gives you a ton of stall
reason why i’m upset is because i’m trying to get to ace and was at 10k/12k and lost about 1k points due to being the first team to die in the match every time to ofa deku
i really don’t understand why he is in the game and normalized
to clarify why the way he plays, his kit, and damage is the way it is
just too broken it’s un fun
you're going to die to a lot of the cast at the start
you're monoma
with a 20% dmg nerf
you're dealing peanuts damage
this isn't me defending ofa deku but this could just genuinely be a skill issue
ok so your able to identify it’s a skill issue, awesome.
So what would you do or what is it that other Monoma players due to counter him?
oh i see that you said at the start, i see what you’re saying
however if i happen to encounter him i believe there isn’t much i can do except stall for my team correct me if im wrong
as a non either of those characters player myself my gameplan would be steal his alpha so you repeatedly knock him down using his ground alphas, use your gamma to stall if you need to, and either wait till your team arrives, or until you can steal quirks that help you deal with him better to actually try and kill him
Stealing his alpha doesn’t work because he’s gear shifted and it comes out way faster
gotcha :\
Yeah he’s a tough character to fight in a 1v1
ig you can get gear 2 gearshift if you copy gamma too at least
but you need to start it up each time you switch quirks
Yikes that’s not great
yeah
everytime i do that all i hear behind me is “the power of our bond” or something then he tp’s on me
I have voicelines off so I don’t know if that’s his gamma voiceline but if it is you need to learn how to roll it
Voice lines off?
Bro you’re playing at a disadvantage
Yeah but I don’t have to hear “ILL GIVE EVERYTHING IVE GOT” “OVERDRIVE” “SMASH” every 3 seconds
I’ll take it
It’s not s13 anymore bro
Every other character is also annoying, I was just using Deku as an example
Woah you play without voicelines?!
You are playing hard mode!
I wanna know how to turn off subtitles tbh
i've seen someone have that on stream
its not exactly clear how to do it
Muting pings would be awesome as well
It should auto mute if they use it a certain amount within a short time
Cuz some mfs don't shut up
Even if your doing what they want 💔
People just ping to ping and it's irritating, it feels bad because some people are actually just pinging loot but it gets so annoying
i get what u mean by ignoring pings isnt good either since they are genuine pings
For sure better to have pings than not have pings but for how often it's abused in this game not having the option to mute is criminal
Once had a shiggy ping so much I genuinely cldnt hear my surroundings
oh god
Some people also use pings incorrectly
Spam pinging may express urgency but you're causing me my own distress cause ur distracting me
The only counter is patience against him, keeping your feet on the ground and watching
And it's situational asf
Tho most people don't know how to play him so it ends up being easier
Monoma should run away at the start
Always
Him and Mirio's and win-cons is playing the long game
Run around, loot, get your stuff together and then pick fights
tysm
Me when I try to "counter" the Rapid Deku by being patient and rolling his attacks, but he gets close and melees me and his melee tracking follows my roll
Considering 90% of the playerbase is on console that wouldn't be as big an issue
Against a PC Rapid Deku?
Good luck.
Jiro summoning ritual
Its been ages since i played 2 month of college pain
Why do u have 5 team heals bro
random quick question, what button is yalls melee's on?
On PC, I use a mouse button
Gotchu
planned on putting my melee to Mouse 4 or 5
just to see if it worked nicely
Find it more comfortable to have dodge and melee on separate hands
How we feel about the smokescreen buff
i'm surprised they didn't touch the Overdrive gamma
having it take like 30/50% of the gamma if u actually lock on
so you'd be choosing between either damage or movement
Weakest part of his kit so I’m not surprised
Beta slam wasn’t very good so it’s not a bad change for the character, he’s still doing great
Slightly weaker indoors
It’s a good sign for the characters future
Not good for anyone who wants him nerfed
Uhhhh cuz its faster to heal with them
I'm more surprised there's people who want diminishing returns for the melee overdrive refresh
As if that wouldn't make rapid dekus be even more inclined go for melees
As someone who had an ofa Deku camp me with their beta slam on wake up I disagree
Time your wake ups better
Brother I didnt press any ability buttons
I just got forced to jump out of it after getting knocked right before lowering my I-frame time
My wake up time isn’t an issue lmao
He can’t beta slam your wakeup on reaction
You have to be choosing to wake up at the wrong time
Uhh yeah he can..
He can do it before your iframes run out…
because some people like myself just know instinctually by now
after hundreds of hours of playing
That gives you time to do stuff though…
If you insta wake up he can’t beta slam you before you can do something to help yourself
Anyway the ability is pretty good and the only reason why people don’t use it as much is because half the cast is in the sky
Like a vert jump
jumping his beta slam does not work last I checked
Yeah because it’s worse than the rest of his kit
fa jin is worse
It’s very niche
Fa Jin is what makes his alpha so disgusting
I’d rather use smokescreen in any other situation
You aren’t winning 1v1s against any Beamer without Fa Jin
what makes his alpha disgusting is the ability to keep someone grounded permanently and camp their wake up
while doing 100+ dmg per hit
his air alpha is good but it’s not one of his best abilities
And Beamer characters can trade with your ground alpha and end up winning
Beamer character I use smoke screen and ground alpha
also a 1-1 trade with most beamers idk ofa Deku is winning that
unless they hit two alphas or somehow have an alpha doing over 100 dmg
It’s not 1 to 1, they have like 3x your fire rate
Fa Jin is just gonna make you an easier target imo
The bunny hopping is cool
but I wouldn’t count on it to save me in a pure Beamer fight
The movement is very jagged and rough, if you’re jumping around anything with verticality it makes you very very hard to hit
Like house to house
Yeah but you’re also only getting 1 air alpha off per bunny hop
For sure
But you’re also moving really quickly while they’re not
Also gives you the possibility to get a melee
Fa Jin also makes your body really hard to camp, something that Deku struggles with
It’s a faster space hop jump
You’re trolling
Anything that enhances movement for a long duration isn’t ‘niche’
An ability that hits ground targets is niche
Time played isn’t a strong enough merit, especially on this game
I mean I’d probably beat your ahh but that’s not my point
It was about a knack for knowing when someone’s wake up frames will run out
Strong
I disagree, the big AOE on the slam is too good to ignore
Fa Jin is good but I always did worse with it on
And I like using smoke screen when ground alpha wake up camping someone
So if it eats into smokescreen then naturally I won’t use it
I will agree with that, good for abusing iframes
Not a bash. It’s just a big momentum change
Also having base kit space hop is incredibly strong
I mean probably but I don’t main this character either
to get used enough to it
and again with the way I play that I stated above
Well that goes against your “hundreds of hours” statement
fa Jin doesn’t work for me
you did not read the actual conversation did you
you just saw hundreds of hours and assumed I was talking about me being an mlg pro esports player
😭
Like I said
I’m talking on the GAME
Yes
not on any specific character
Good equivocation
and it was mainly for the fact of knowing when iframes disappear
Don’t think I can engage with this
Okay, bye
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Just so we are clear on this point
Yeah it was not about merit it was about knowledge
I think plenty of people go hundreds of hours without gathering a ton of knowledge. Especially on relatively casual games where the ranked system is almost entirely time investment based.
So I would probably hold my stance
I mean I suppose there’s probably a good chunk but I don’t think I would be wrong in saying over half the people playing this game for hundreds of hours probably do pick up knowledge on stuff about i-frames, storm damage, counters, etc.
But like I said you’re also right in saying not everyone does.
All this to say, proper i-frame use can USUALLY avoid the beta, and honestly half the reason it’s possible is because of his voice line during the ability.
In a meta where 1 shot-ing is possible, I just think the movement from Fa Jin is more helpful than a slam that, even though it doesn’t leave you very vulnerable, is not reliable damage in a lot of cases, especially seeing that ground gameplay is a thing of the past
I could have probably avoided it if my character didn’t jump back up instead of slowly getting up when I got hit before he beta’ed me but yeah I could do nothing there
I sprinted away but it didn’t matter lol
Eh maybe with Fa Jin it’s not bad but I just like the beta slam better
Even flying heroes need to land every once in a while
But obvs now it’s not even worth it unless you have 3-5% left and you can’t melee
Probably better to chill out if your gearshift is gonna end but I get the idea
That’ll be even less safe after the patch since you’ll be out of betas
How
That's pretty rare unless you were in the most open zone possible with zero movement
Any verticality dodges it and you can even cancel the slam by hitting him halfway through
He doesn't have an active hitbox when coming down
I was in a small room
If it was an open space it'd be easier for me to avoid it
anyway I'll try jumping next time lol
It does
Brothee
Brother
Am I wrong?
"Oh, make overdrive restore 15%"
Cue all the rapid Dekus being even more melee addicted
No
Yes
What is optimal tuning right now
Perception + willpower
Embrittlement + card dupe
Hyper regen + revenge support
All are good
You think iron fist+ embrittlement is good?
Nah not really, it’s 5% damage so unless it’s helping you hit breakpoints on 350/400hp characters which it doesn’t I don’t really see the use over other tunings
it also lasts 10 seconds and goes on a cooldown iron fist kinda sucks
Unfort nerf
The combo where you add a jump melee is bad to do now
Assuming “aerial combat” means his air melee
This doesn’t affect his actual infinite
Just when you catch someone with shields near a ledge
And anyone still doing the flurry air melee flurry air melee combo
That is dead
How do u do the ledge tech
I’ve only been struggling with that
Are you meant to dash off the ledge then melee?
roll off ledge and press melee
Alr
Insta wake up then he wont have time it charge it
@tropic lantern bro u had a heated argument there 😭
True
too late
It's obvious, doesn't mean it's avoidable when I have 3 seconds of i-frames to get away and he's right on me lol
Anyway why are you still responding to something days old
go play the new season
I literally do not care anymore
Get instantly he need 2 secs to charge
ok bud
Alright the down power on the air melee being increased shouldn't be too noticeable
Not going to 100 to 0 someone with shields if they're near a ledge and that's about it
if anyones doing the air melee into flurry combo shorten it by 1
did they not remove this
Why would his melee loop be gone?
Only thing that got changed was his air melee down power
are your memories only limited to 24 hours
he got his loops removed after his season
if ur talking about the patch months ago it go figured out literally the day of
it didn't get removed
the timing is just tighter
apparently you haven't kept up with the game at all
No I just don't think anyone talks about this character
and it isn't true loops anyway because he couldn't do a 3rd loop
I've played 500 games last season
127 hours in the past 2 weeks
browse the subreddit daily
have mhur twitter feed
look at this chat
and have never seen anyone talk about how the timing simply just got tighter
probably don't read this chat much then
It gets brought up like once a week
it's all people care about here
Pretty sure I've explained the loop to people at least 5 times since the patch
That's what this is
Improving your dodge timing is the loop
dodge cancelling would mean you wouldn't actually dodge though
I've seen the videos of it
if you do the correct dodge timing on certain characters it cancels
they're the same thing just character specific
well okay
so it doesnt work on all characters?
Loop works on anyone, you only get the cancel effect on certain characters
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by cancel effect you mean without the dodge showing at all?
okay yeah that is what you mean
Yup exactly
@tropic lantern nah they def made this easier
idk how to dodge cancel and even im able to do it
The loop never left
Just got slightly harder to do
I’ll check in game to be sure it didn’t get even easier though, it’s very possible
the flying kick loop probably got easier cause of the system change i'll say (referring to the flying kick loop after 2nd gut punch)
still very tight timing though
The flying kick got nerfed tho so no point in doing it
yeah you can't use it anymore
Even more incentive to learn the infinite now
and for characters where you do a flying kick mid combo you'll have to get used to not doing it or it'll break your chain
Bro I’ve seen it get brought up in this chat all the time💔
Dodge cancels yes
To me what he did just looks like normal looping
But it’s apparently dodge cancelling so as I already stated, I am wrong.
For whatever reason our melees are giving extra lift on shielded people making the loop just as easy to do on shields as hp
So the down power increase on the air melee definitely sucks but this is significantly better in terms of trade off
is dekus thing still perception and trance?
No it never should be
Trance is really really really really really really really bad after the down power change to his air melee
if you air alpha someone before air melee you will be putting them in the knock down state
and any potential combos with your melee is completely dead
The loop still exists and is easy to do if the opponent is on HP and you start with Air melee
It's not infinite anymore but you can loop it once or twice until they touch the ground
The loops were never patched, they just became more situational
This chat is actually kinda making me mad bro
why are half the people here addicted to adding nothing onto a already finished conversation from yesterday
you are literally explaining what i already know and what was already discussed
So do i go back to iron fist?
Then mute it and dont open it best way to avoid getting mad
If you stop tryna beef with people just to get dunked on, it’ll be a bit less frustrating. People are intending to help. That’s mostly the purpose of these channels.
People don’t feel like reading whole conversations. They’ll see something and respond
Perception and willpower is probably the best combo rn
Unless you consider Nagant killing through willpower
I want melee power cuz well overdrive
It works too!
Well u aint wrong
Honestly avoiding willpower is the main importance just because of down power
Sorry
Trance blow
Yuh i was wondering today why cant i get my melees in
Turns out its trance blow ☠️
Am going back to iron fist
It's not that serious
I'm not trying to beef with anyone here
However I am allowed to feel that people should do the bare minimum of reading a conversation before responding to it
Apparently that doesn't work on discord 😭
Welcome to a discord with hundreds of people
Resist heat🔥
I don't get this in other discord channels btw
for other characters
so specifically this character's players just don't like reading
🤷♂️
Don’t know what to tell you. It’s not that big a deal if people respond to an old message that has a conversation after it answering the questions. It is what it is
Like you said, it’s not that serious
Bro I still hate she can do that
coulda told me nothing tbh
Yuh cuz u complain about deku 24/7
While shamelessly defending nagant by all means possible
When her snipe shot negates will power
Can you point me to where I have defended Nagant please
"the scope is fine"
the quickscoping?
I mean yeah I didn't really mind it but I think the nerf was good cause you could basically not even see the scope before tbf
What else
But the quickscoping was like not even a top 5 issue of nagant
so thats why I didn't really care
I tried to do it today maybe cuz i was laggy it didn't work but now its painful to hit
because surprise surprise she's still top 1
Anyway I've criticised deku being dumb like 2-3 times here at best
Because he is
Well he no longer is
s14 just released even more disgustingly broken characters
Aam ☠️
so he, strike hawks, tech mirio and whatnot are getting overshadowed
Can we nerf that mf AAM
Hes so brain dead like bruh 😭
Yk whats weird? I timed my dodge it still hit me
And one hit me when i was outside the aoe
Whats with his kit
Can we adress tech denki camping like a bi****
That’s not true lma
He got heavily nerf especially the beta
U cant spam that shi anymore
Doesn’t matter hahaha
It’s the weakest part of his kit
In higher level lobbies at least
The beta is either niche or a pub stomper
Tech Shiggy got some shadow nerfs. But he’s still top 3ish probably
i remember seeing that but
I could do more than 1 beta slam in gamma
is it a next season change?
I actually dodged one while not even focusing on him but an ibara despite him directly landing on me lol
but yeah I'd just consider it an undodgeable attack
he is annoying but I cant say anything yet cause I haven't seen too many
i'm surprised yall still running trance blow on ppl that gain some value off of decent combos, its better if those combos or sets don't drop early, trance blow cuts your resistance in Half so you get knocked quicker
Can you explain these heavy nerfs?
Are you really surprised though
good point....
after the last two seasons
💀
Remember how u can spam beta?
His worst ability?
Yuh u can no longer spam it in close rooms
Wouldn’t just killing someone with a melee loop be way better in close rooms
Well i clearly can't pull that off with freaking stick drift
I don’t think stick drift effects the loop
It does when it freaking moves me side ways
Most aggressive stick drift known to man
The moment i try to use the second loop that thing sways off the course
No wonder i can't get kills right 😑
Unless ur fully grounded
Overhaul too
Then why did no one slap me out of it before
Happy for you
Tho i hate the full ammo take thing
I can no longer use a 2nd dash after the first slam
Hes peak comapred to the forgotten twice
Im trollin, big dog
But no one in Ace should be hitting beta consistently was the underlying statement
Because this rank system is just time played, not skill
I only use it in places where they will modt likly not be able to dodge
Who apporved of this
Izuku Midoriya
These devs make me think EA is good
Izuku Midoriya.....
is that seriously how the ranked system is?
its so easy it basically is yeah
People who are better will get to ace quicker, but generally after a few weeks of a season start rank really means nothing
I lowk want this deku casue
- smoke screen is aura farming
- get a down -> FA JIN -> thank you thank you thank you
Did they shadow nerf his melee people are escaping out the 3 to 5 melee chain for overdrive
Yes
The melee off his gamma?
Wdym
Like yk the melee chain to get over dirve
Yuh people are just escaping when getting hit by uppercitd
Haven't noticed anything different with it the past 2 days
Don’t use air melee if you hit overdrive because they upped down power on air melee
Wait i cant start with air melee to get overdrive?
I thought you were asking why you can’t do a full melee combo after landing an overdrive
On nah when i activate gear 2 and i use air melee to start the chain but everytime after the first uppercut they escape how?
Might be lag
Ok so its not a nerf
Ate
Oh wait I just did what was annoying
In my defence it was the first thing that showed when I opened the channel
Is leather style combat better than quirk assist gear combat?
or is it just preference?
I prefer Willpower but it's mainly just preference
If you would rather have the purple slot then go for it
i actually find it funny how i can still consistently do his loops
it really doesn't feel like they did anything (they lowkey didn't) but i'm speaking in a sense where it still feels hella easy to do
They feel even easier this patch, not sure why
I think you can catch people lower than last patch
I'm getting some where people are basically in the floor
for me they completely hit the floor but i still catch them so its just a constant reset
same situation
even without that happening i still catch them
i'm sure they didn't....adjust....anything

Opening any chat on this server really exposes you to seeing the most atrocious things ever
Why are we acting like the beta nerf was something terrible for the character and not how it should've been from the beginning
The
agenda lives on
The people that play this game are a different breed
Naturally
People were complaining they didn’t include it
i noticed this immediately
i did one beta slam
and still had the other round
🤔 Yeah just tested it, its also easy to ignore cause you could just do the dash slam after using the other round previously already on basic dashing
i'm surprised they didn't restrict it a bit
i mean i wouldn't want to waste those betas personally
but still
can be hella viable in a team setting
No? You normal beta into charged beta and you will use both charges
Man people really can’t read more than a line in this chat
Mandatory reading lessons for everyone subscribed to this thread
Multiple people have reported that his beta still works like it used to instead of quintuple eating both charges
Brother…….. it hurts to see you think he’s not talking about you
It takes my charge just fine
Not sure what causes it tbh
Go read above and you’ll learn
It just seems like it does exactly as intended
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Yea
Thinking of making a hp sucker and black arm build for this guy
Mainly just cause i want to use black arm on him
but the easy access hp sounds good too
What if you did special reload and spammed smoke 😭
Lowkey do hyper regen instead
At that point just run hyper regen + revenge support
Black arms a weird tuning, curious how much value people are getting from it
It seems like a fun gimmick tune but that’s about it
Idk I haven’t seen anyone really run it
Haven’t either
I don’t like down tunings regardless, aside from special action recharge, usually want tunings that help you kill people, not help after
PU also carries to other fights which makes it better than normal down tunings
Denies rez
125 hp heal on finish
Only getting knocked if the move is 500 dp
and combined with your smoke it’s pretty perfect
Do finishers stop fast rezzes like Froppy?
yes
.
What’s the best tuning for Ofa deku
in this current meta hyper regen & tech support thts wht everyone is running apparently
i still play this deku but its hard asf to do his combos on switch lol
This is meant to say revenge support, yes?
oh shii- My fault got the names mixed up
Best ofa deku tuning? i think imam get him with pity i hate 180 / 200
With how many teams are left in final circle it’s hyper regen + revenge support
Can anyone tell me how to do the m1 chain combo?
The M1 in the middle of your melee chain?
Click m1 a bunch
You need both of your parents to stop talking to you and get bullyed at school than you can do it
for some reason the melee loop is 100x easier in actual games than training
The loop this patch basically got reverted to the same difficulty it was when the character released
So really easy
i met a cheating OFA Deku once
Inf loop but the way the 2nd punch worked is that it triggered a actual stun instead of keeping u afloat in the gut punch
so he could just do it over and over again
Ik I just tht it'd be funny asl
Hey yall, does anybody know what's better, Willpower+Embrittlement, Trance+Embrittlement, Willpower+Wall runner, or Trance+wall runner?
dang fr? everyone was using it when he first released
Doesn’t need wall runner
It increases down power which is very bad
With the air melee knock down power change it almost makes him unplayable
ohhh
OH
OHHHHHH I REMEMBER THAT ISSUE I TOTALLY FORGOTTT
i havent played in a few months 😭
thanks guys
Perception, embrittlement, hyper regen, revenge support, willpower are all good
got it, thanks so much!!
i cant do this on switch.. its too hard 😭
to my knowledge its impossible on switch
So im new to this charater and I wanna know how are yall melee looping I been trying and they drop after I roll back
roll immediately after the 2nd punch up into the air
you also might need to be in overdrive already
Yeah 5th gear helps since it increases your speed
Should also roll through them instead of back
He has extra height in the clip above so it’s fine to roll back but it’s more consistent if you roll through
Okay bet I will try those out
Here the first the clip of me trying to dash through them is downloading i think im doing something wrong
Oh start with an air melee
You can’t do it in training without it (at least I haven’t)
practicing on flat ground is typically better
And it’s harder to do in training than in game
Definitely rolling way late
Nerf him
Nagant nerfs first and it’s a deal
Nagant nuked from orbit and then we can start looking at Deku
“Please don’t hit smoke screen again!!” 👉🏻👈🏻
Not the beta!!!! Noooooo
And don’t you dare make it so my infinite combo isn’t as easy!!
Can’t believe they gutted him 😔
Didn't they plan a smokescreen buff 😭
Pretty sure it's getting buffed next season to disable aim assist inside it's AoE
doesn’t do much for me personally
wish they would just make it have a bit wider aoe
Yo u play support nejire right?
yes
Make him support
acceleration qfr
Alr ty
Is acceleration necessary cuz idk if i will land the melees
its good for alpha boost and movement
but if you want to replace it with something else go ahead i guess
Am planning on electrification
Wanna beam people when they get stunned
can I ask if you know how long electrification stuns for
Lvl 10 is 14 secs i think
Lvl 11 is 14.5 or 15
brother
thats the time you're elctrified for
not the time it stuns
it stuns for like a second
less time than a strike denki gamma stun
Idk i check the database they didnt clarify it
They simply wrote 14 and dipped
They didn't even clarify shi
this is why u test with 1-2 star costumes
hope u didnt spend any resources setting up a build for that with a 3*
No way i dont test on ours
Purs*