#Midoriya (OFA)

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jaunty rune
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Imagine he just dies and you can’t rez him after he loses overdrive 😭

azure moss
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could make 5th gear like a last resort kinda thing

jaunty rune
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He can still cd reset it’s just much easier to catch him and even then it’s not hard to catch him

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Monoma is still among the best but having cooldown resets be an argument is so weird

lean oyster
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isn't gamma tracking, into one melee, into beta a more relyable combo? i find myself getting interrupted so much and the beta at the end can help me get away

terse finch
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they really need to make him unable to heal during his gamma and unable to rez

jaunty rune
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But that doesn’t mean deku isnt strong lmao

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Look I love the melee combos a ton but they need a heavy nerf

terse finch
jaunty rune
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I think the impossible thing to beat isnt the tunes it’s the fact that hes a rush down with little weakness

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You can’t avoid him well you HAVE you beat him out and even then you’ll struggle to do that because how fast he is

terse finch
jaunty rune
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Air alpha I think is fine and I think grounded alpha is okay too BUT I do think it has too little startup

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Just increase it that way he can’t spam it

terse finch
spare kiln
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They still pulling it off in my lobbies

terse finch
spare kiln
terse finch
jaunty rune
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They can still cooldown cancel yeah but it’s way weaker

terse finch
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you can do about 4-6 betas before you run out

jaunty rune
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Especially since not only does it have a good cost now they don’t go as far as their beta distance got halved or something like that

spare kiln
terse finch
terse finch
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monomas still strong but he’s not in the top 3 rapid ochako red kiri and tech mirio take that

spare kiln
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Shes annoying alot

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Matter of fact she more annoying than rapid deku and monama combined

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☠️

jaunty rune
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Hes most likely gonna be one of the best because he can make his own moveset he can be a second character on a team easy and he can just steal an enemy’s entire moveset easy

spare kiln
terse finch
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even then he’d still be strong

jaunty rune
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However with some changes he’ll be a lot more skilled (he already is now since he can’t just run from whatever and kill everything whenever because of the cooldowns)

spare kiln
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@terse finch btw

spare kiln
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I saw a monama on gear 5 today

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How he use that😭

jaunty rune
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His melee does drop every once in a while

jaunty rune
spare kiln
jaunty rune
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More than 2 times

spare kiln
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And he will most likly fail the activation?

terse finch
jaunty rune
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Since he lacks the range the tracking and the hits

spare kiln
jaunty rune
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It’s more worth it to just get overdrive and then fly

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No

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He just likes pain

terse finch
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im praying it gets patched it’s so annoying

jaunty rune
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No

spare kiln
jaunty rune
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I don’t see a lot of monoma stuff ngl

terse finch
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yea this needs to go

lusty sorrel
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Lol

lusty sorrel
vivid bison
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Woah that's impressive, you cld just save and pity that then I'm pretty sure it's available

serene holly
serene holly
lean oyster
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it's so fast and does atleast full GP of dmg

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then imagine at lvl 9

wispy hamlet
vivid bison
zenith grail
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Putting pre nerf Nejire in the same conversation as pre nerf Monoma and Strike Dabi is top tier gaslighting

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It was literally just her beta that knocked down too fast and that was it

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She was never all that to begin with

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If they gave her her old beta back it wouldn’t even matter because this character would still be shooting her out of the sky with their charged gamma

bronze dust
errant kernel
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This character was a mistake bro 🫩

wheat nest
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nah, character is peak

unique bluff
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YOU WHAT

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SINCE WHEN???

unique bluff
errant kernel
unique bluff
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Oh wow you can track your opponent that’s fun

lusty sorrel
bronze dust
orchid lily
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Guys i think combos arent necessary all the time for this character

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I only use air melee > full melee combo to keep my overdrive active

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And started performing way better cause i mainly focus on his crazy mobility and alpha

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My level up path is g4 a4 g9 a9 b9

serene holly
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His combos are for if you’re in a 1v1 situation

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Otherwise use the fact that you’re one of if not the fastest character in the game to trip up your enemies and land cheap shots when they lose you

simple cosmos
simple cosmos
lean oyster
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guys how long does blue deku's special tuning last for?? leveling it up is like leveling trance blow right, it takes less time to be able to get activated?

wooden hinge
serene holly
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Level 10 is 40 seconds and level 11 is 20 seconds

lean oyster
serene holly
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No the cooldown lowers per level not active time

zenith field
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Does anyone have any tips for landing melee attacks? Whenever I activate gearshift I usually use gamma again in order to get close and use melee to get to 5th gear but I feel like it’s a gamble whether or not the melee will actually link

rancid saffron
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have they fixed the green card problem yet?

grave patio
spare kiln
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I was in a place where i couldn't cut the 1 to 5 hit

grave patio
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gotcha, then yeah must've been one of those reasons (probably)

lean oyster
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does y'all's gamma tracking smash just straight up not hit? i would track them and they get frozen but my hit just misses. Wether im in mid air or on the ground

jaunty rune
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Ye

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It just happens

jaunty rune
lean oyster
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Props to you for pulling that off on switch

jaunty rune
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It’s the same as pc you can still do it

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Dribbling is the hard one and it’s still possible

dusty crater
serene holly
dusty crater
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Seems pretty good

wooden hinge
sand wasp
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Would Melee powers be optimal for OFA?

serene holly
spare kiln
spare kiln
sand wasp
unique bluff
zenith grail
orchid basalt
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But I'm a Strike Kendo hater

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So this clip pleases me

sand wasp
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Nerf Strike Endeavor

fringe abyss
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Which one of these PUR's would be best for tunning?

hushed perch
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Yo anyone got a tuning of the OFA deku.
Costume: One for All final battle ver.(any type)

lusty sorrel
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For OFA Deku, the best tunnings probably are:

Embrittlement, Iron Fist, Wall Runner, Card Duplication, Trance Blow

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Tech Mirio's tunning too

unique bluff
steel star
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I just got him lets goooo

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does any1 have tuning suggests for any of the quirk assist gear ver.?

wheat nest
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Not another trance blow deku build LOL

lusty sorrel
zenith grail
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Your air melee already insta locks from 10 feet away and your gamma even further

lusty sorrel
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Well, yes

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But it's extremely annoying too

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I prefer Embrittlement and Card Duplication

steel star
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ngl im tempted to get perception and kota finder

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level patterns any1?

zenith grail
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It’s very good for him

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No one can escape you so like

zenith grail
sand wasp
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Yeah this guy is totally balanced

steel star
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mhm

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totally

wispy nebula
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Im really liking Crushing PU Charge and Embrittlement

dusty crater
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But card dupe is also extremely good it really just comes down to preference

lapis kettle
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Playing OFA Deku be like

spare kiln
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Me knowing well rapid deku will never be nerfed just like red deku

spare kiln
spare kiln
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Does trance blow cancel the gamma melee beta combo?

grave patio
# spare kiln Does trance blow cancel the gamma melee beta combo?

if only ground melee 1-2: no
air melee into ground melee: yes
single air melee: no (unlikely/impossible(?) scenario)
advanced loops: depends
(keep in mind I don't actually play the character, I just look at down power, so idk how feasible hitting gamma air melee beta is for example. If it works, likely from a specific height and vs hp only)

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I'm also beyond tired and really gotta go to bed, I think I somehow made sense though

serene holly
steady gyro
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Scary stuff

orchid basalt
grave patio
spare kiln
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What deku 2nd best suit if i dont own final battle

turbid quail
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Is the trainingsmode with rapid deku bugged or sth?

spare kiln
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Late inputs

turbid quail
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Its doesnt track

spare kiln
turbid quail
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Yes

spare kiln
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Hold gamma to track then

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And it doenst track ur teammates even if friendly fire is on

turbid quail
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Ohh now i get it

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How doesnthis g5 fill up

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I just see the bar now🤣🤣🤣

spare kiln
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Melee them

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Until u see the word over drive

turbid quail
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Understood now how that works🤣

terse finch
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and yes i got foldedCementoss

turbid quail
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I think

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To solve this problem

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We should nerf mtlady

terse finch
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seems balanced let’s nerf mount lady and hawks

turbid quail
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And overhaul

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And maybe we can delete some of overhauls and mtladys 6 costumes😹

terse finch
grave patio
# terse finch did he just go through my iframes or am I tweaking

do you mean at the start or after your wakeup or both? cause I think at the start your iframes started on that little rock wall before dropping off it, which is super annoying when that happens cause the game doesn't handle the scenario correctly and on your wakeup I suspect you must have pressed a button for them to disappear

terse finch
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i was waiting for my wakeup and then my iframes just dipped or sum

grave patio
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cause at the start your game was thinking it's putting you back on your feet on the stone thingy in front of you. but you ended up having no ground to recover on, so your i-frames already started early whereas you getting back on your feet got delayed cause you were suddenly in the air again

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idk why the game looks at those two things seperately but the desync of that is what makes your iframes end early. in even worse cases you can be hit for like 2s while not being able to use any actions yourself

terse finch
grave patio
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yup that's what I'm saying

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one of the most annoying things/bugs in the game imo

terse finch
grave patio
grave patio
frigid sonnet
steel yarrow
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Yoo guys

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Do any of y'all know the trick to use 4 beta

serene holly
orchid lily
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I think he means the free charged beta u get after timing it right

serene holly
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You mean using Quintuple after regular beta without using another beta?

steel yarrow
serene holly
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It's just pressing beta again after regular beta

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It does have a timing and it's when you see a golden shockwave I believe

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Actually I think a beta way to word it would be after the inital dash

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The golden shockwave is if you down someone my bad

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It's after he dashes forward press beta again

unique bluff
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Does the Gearshift timer reset after landing a Melee attack of any kind or do you have to land the same combo again to reset it

lusty sorrel
terse finch
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is iron fist or embrittlement better on rapidku? I wanna use tranceblow but apparently it ruins your combos

azure moss
lavish prawn
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bro needs a nerf

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like please

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i'm about to quit the whole game until less people play this mf or until he gets a serious nerf. even for a rapid, he's too fast and has way too many advantages. nothing in this game has ever made me upset like this character does. the devs were on crack making him. if he ain't nerfed soon i'm retiring from this game and moving on to Alls justice for good no joke. can't even enjoy the game anymore with 7 ofa Dekus in every single lobby. yes, i'm mad, no, i don't care what anyone thinks. i'm getting tired of the devs making the absolute worst decisions for this game, like it's getting really old atp, hire better people, byking, for the love of everything that is holy i will not be playing this game if they keep this up. is it hard to make balanced characters?
i have never once complained about anything in this game before, i am not that kind of person, this is the first time i'm doing something like this. NERF THIS CHARACTER.

jaunty rune
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Man rapidkus are getting twice level abuse huh

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Good luck yall lol

steady gyro
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All they gonna complain about next is how young afo is gonna be busted

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It’s the same story

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You’ll get used to it

jaunty rune
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Ive already been used to it

steady gyro
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Be glad that twice had his combo nerved

jaunty rune
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I used to play twice

jaunty rune
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They weren’t even that bad to fight against after the fps bug fix people just can’t zone for the life of them

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Similar to redbi

steady gyro
# jaunty rune I’m not

Would yall be saying the same thing if his combo havent gotten nerfed when ofa deku came out now?

jaunty rune
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?

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No

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I’d still be fine with twice combos being in the game

steady gyro
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Same with kaminari

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Same with red kendo

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Same with AFO base

jaunty rune
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As does iida aizawa the denkis kendo both deku afo mic and more

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Your point?

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Having a guardbreak combo is not a trait exclusive to twice

steady gyro
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He ain’t that special

jaunty rune
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Multiple characters have a confirmed guardbreak

steady gyro
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His move cancel is sort of skill based too, you can’t just learn it off the batt

jaunty rune
steady gyro
jaunty rune
jaunty rune
steady gyro
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Ha, I’ve seen red kendo’s with the beta cancel moves

steady gyro
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Compress can do the same thing

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Again, he’s not too special

jaunty rune
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Compress cant kill you off melee alone

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He uses his melee to stun into alpha

steady gyro
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Some of the characters can tore through you or explode you with combos, again, ofa Deku is just a other character

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I mean, he’s hard to fight against

jaunty rune
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No deku is still a problem because he does that but better

steady gyro
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You can dodge his gamma

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You can dogs his alpha

jaunty rune
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If you’re lucky

steady gyro
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You can dodge his beta shockwave

jaunty rune
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And then he’ll just cancel the endlag into a melee or fire another with the large size

jaunty rune
steady gyro
jaunty rune
jaunty rune
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Are you actually gonna get anything off that

steady gyro
lavish prawn
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i beg to differ

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80% of the time they ain't

jaunty rune
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He misses the punch and hes still fine he does not lose 30% and he can still attack fast enough to kill you off that interaction

jaunty rune
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Otherwise no you should be getting hit quite consistently

steady gyro
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If you guys ain’t gonna listen, then I’m heading to sleep

lavish prawn
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i'm listening this is just my opinion we don't have to agree 🤷‍♀️

steady gyro
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Stop complaining about the character and go complain about young afo next

jaunty rune
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No one’s stopping you were just explaining why deku is in need of nerfs

lavish prawn
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nah i've never complained about this game like this before, this is a first for me

steady gyro
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He ain’t getting nerfs any time soon

jaunty rune
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Look I love rapidku as much as the next guy but he does need nerfs

steady gyro
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Maybe next season he will, but not this season

jaunty rune
lavish prawn
jaunty rune
steady gyro
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Assault endeavor ? Assault ochako?

lavish prawn
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agreed

jaunty rune
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Even when he was a recent release he needed changes

steady gyro
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Rapid ochako?

jaunty rune
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Can you read

lavish prawn
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i'm so confused

steady gyro
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Any recent characters won’t receive any nerfs or buffs related to the season

jaunty rune
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There is a difference between receiving and needing changes

lavish prawn
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real

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plenty of characters could use some minor changes but it's not to the point where it makes gameplay miserable

jaunty rune
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Just because he is a recent release does not mean he is exempt from needing changes (especially with the reasons you listed because theyre just kinda dumb)

lavish prawn
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ofa Deku is making me want to take a 2 month hiatus so i come back and there aint 7 per lobby anymore

jaunty rune
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You feel me?

lavish prawn
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exactly!

jaunty rune
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Damage nerfs knockdown nerfs

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That kinda thing

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Not a twice situation

lavish prawn
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exactly yes

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he's a great character but he seriously needs to just be toned down that's all

jaunty rune
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Exactly

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I understand why his melee was so overtuned though because his kit basically runs off it

lavish prawn
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righttt

jaunty rune
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He also needs a more clear and consistent counterplay similar to that of pre patch twice redbi because they would hit hard but you could still fight them if you knew how to play the game

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Whereas this deku can just do too much and it’s difficult to fight him unless you play specific characters and play right

lavish prawn
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factsssssss
that one combo is driving me to actual insanity, the one where he can just melee over and over and over without you getting knocked down. that will 100% be fixed cause ain't no way.

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i got a clip of it somewhere

jaunty rune
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Best part is that if you shoot them too high you can extend it with his air melee

lavish prawn
visual cedar
grave patio
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potentially

steel fractal
carmine garden
grave patio
timid tundra
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I just had to pity deku 😐

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But now I’m enjoying him with embrittlement and iron fist

grave patio
grave patio
timid tundra
grave patio
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I'm more likely to pity him next season

unique bluff
lavish prawn
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Trueee

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alpha spammin jackwagon

unique bluff
lavish prawn
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REALL

unique bluff
# lavish prawn REALL

Like I’d rather deal with Tech Denki’s Alpha cuz his Alpha is MEANT to lock on and hit almost all the time

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Compress you can’t just roll and live cuz the moment you exit the roll you end up getting hit by another object

lavish prawn
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Completely agree

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I don't know if it's just a me problem or what but lately I feel like he's been more annoying than usual

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I ain't never been spammed so much ever playing this game 💔

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Then its a real feather ruffler when you're stuck inside a building trying to get out and hes outside spamming the exit

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ain't nothing you can do

gleaming coyote
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First one might work with trance blow but u kinda proved me wrong there

serene holly
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Yeah this is why I don't recommend Trance Blow you lose out on combo potential and there's more you can do I just don't have them clipped

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Iron Fist can work if you wanna use a hero red melee tuning

wheat nest
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I'd run iron fist more but the cooldown between activations is a major turn off

lean ivy
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😭

fleet badger
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Anyone know how to do the melee combo, enemies usually just fall out of it or i frames activate

gleaming coyote
mystic kindle
jaunty rune
upbeat sonnet
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Is this a good build?

zenith grail
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You fully maxed it

serene holly
upbeat sonnet
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Didn’t settle with what was in that SS

ashen egret
humble night
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HEY HEY CHAT

serene holly
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Howdy

steady gyro
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Hosnetly the whole game

steady gyro
pulsar igloo
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This probably the best character the game has ever released

spare kiln
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Yall gamma doesn't hit the enemy after track?

serene holly
serene holly
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I'd have to see a clip to see the issue then

spare kiln
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I try to avoid grounded ones cuz they fail

spare kiln
serene holly
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That's real weird

zenith grail
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in terms of fun maybe

opal mulch
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Bro I just unlocked ofa deku and im soooooo excited to play it when i get home

opal mulch
pulsar igloo
zenith grail
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not currently who is the best

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there's a difference there

torpid pier
serene holly
# torpid pier

How the what did you jump that fast out of the second uppercut

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Also are those melee 2s animation cancelled because it looks like you’re dash cancelling to me but I could be wrong

hoary river
simple cosmos
# torpid pier

i tried it out i got it a few times but im inconsistent with it

steel star
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is extra wind and perception a good combo for rapidku?

wispy nebula
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what do you guys think about Wall Runner and Critical Permation is good?

jaunty rune
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Very good

lavish prawn
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I am here again to simply say, nerf this mf

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I do not care what ANYBODY says

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I will NOT be convinced otherwise

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I have never complained about anything in this game before, but this is the dumbest thing the devs have ever done, they must have been on some serious lsd if they thought making Deku like this was a good idea
At least make him do less damage. This is a rapid not a strike.
Chill tf out with the literally broken combos as well
The way he can beat you within an inch of your life with you unable to fight back is bad enough, but the fact that when you bounce off the ground he can come in for another round of whooping is absolutely ridiculous

lavish prawn
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get this out of the game bro

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I used to have fun in this game

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Strike hawks isn't op like this, he actually seems rather balanced so far
The devs need to be consistent with their good decisions

lavish prawn
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i aint complainin to yall directly

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Just expressin

torpid pier
lavish prawn
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plus, i've messaged a dev before and they never responded

torpid pier
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Exception being AFO beta

lavish prawn
torpid pier
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Hypothetically he can combo you for you trying to combo him. 2 betas, 250+ damage

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For free

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Both r bad. Deku is just worse because hawks actually requires aim since he only has tracking on his gamma

lavish prawn
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oh i misread what you said ack

lavish prawn
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I've only played against him a few times so far

torpid pier
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It's moreover a bug thing so once it gets patched he should be tolerable

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Though that alpha movement is also a problem

lavish prawn
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I agree

torpid pier
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Anywho I'm beat

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Niiiiight

lavish prawn
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same here, i was about to go to sleep too actually xD
goodnight!

orchid lily
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I accidentally did the new perfect dodge cancel

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I DID IT AGAIN LOLLLLL

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Hold up ill record my attempts

real comet
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@everyone nerf one for all deku PLEASE

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Lucky

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I’m getting violated

jaunty rune
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now its a consistency issue

feral jay
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@north pendant nerf deku!! Wth!! Why he didnt get nerf yesturday!!!

opal rampart
torpid pier
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Listen Labbers

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For those who are trying to perform Perfect Dodge Cancel try it on one the following characters

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OFA Deku, Froppy, Kirishima, Momo, Ibara, Mirio, Tamaki, Nejire, Shinso, Hawks, Mt.Lady, Shigaraki, AFO, Dabi

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You'll have more success

opal rampart
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labbing this has improved my cancels alot lol

serene holly
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Once college stops being a meanie I will lab that as well

vale moss
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is his PUR costume worth rolling for? I got him before picking one up. I was kinda eyeing the second leather jacket skin as being good enough.

spare kiln
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Whats the best suit if you dont own his final battle

limber geyser
jade jay
spare kiln
jade jay
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Ye

spare kiln
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Tho i do need the battle version asap

spare kiln
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Isnt melee supposed to track when am air born

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Doesn't seem to do so

misty bear
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anybody who says he doesnt need nerfs needs to get doxxed bro

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there is no way this character is real

serene holly
unique bluff
unique bluff
misty bear
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god bless this server is strict or I would’ve said worse

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ofa deku needs to be vaulted 😭 💔

spare kiln
real comet
unique bluff
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I’ve had to endure getting my ahh beat by ace rank a-holes in customs I do NOT wanna hear it bro

steel fractal
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nerf rapid deku idc

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🥹

unique bluff
steel fractal
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He’s no skill I fear

unique bluff
steel fractal
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yeahhhhhh he is

wheat nest
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there is no skill with most characters in this game

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this game is NOT competitive

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Party ahh game

real comet
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Skill issue

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Get better

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I started this game less than two months ago

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First games I was thrown into ace lobbies cause I was playing with a friend who was ace

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And I hit ace and learned almost every character my first week

steel fractal
steel fractal
unique bluff
real comet
steel fractal
real comet
unique bluff
real comet
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Before the season started

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I’m not referring to my friends I’m referring to someone I met while playing

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The first few days I played with them I got carried until I officially unlocked Aizawa and quickly got good with him and was able to hold my own a lot better

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I was somewhere in pro when I got him

wheat nest
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You don't even need to be good to hit Ace anyway. The game just gives it to you by just playing

real comet
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That wasn’t my point

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Tho

stuck citrus
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Any good tuning?

serene holly
stuck citrus
serene holly
plush venture
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Does anyone know how to do the double beta?

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Its a long beta press?

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And let go?

crimson path
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No you click beta, let izuku do the punch and when he’s rushing after hitting you press beta again

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So basically you press beta twice

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If you hold you’ll just charge it and he’ll do quintuple Detroit smash only

plush venture
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Oohhh I see, ty ty

serene holly
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But yeah like the other person said

plush venture
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Its kinda hard to hit that second one lol

lean oyster
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best level order for simone that doesn't use alpha that much?

jaunty rune
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Just level beta ig

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I just go g4 a4 b9 a9 g9 but you can probably skip alpha and level beta and gamma first

serene holly
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His alpha is crazy useful

lean oyster
serene holly
lean oyster
serene holly
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As long as the projectile is bigger from level 4

lean oyster
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i'll do ur lvl order

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i'll do a4 b4 g4, g9 b9 a9

serene holly
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His beta and gamma do more damage so I do level those first but I level alpha to 4 so I can have an easier time hitting alpha which helps a lot against all the fast characters in the game

tepid marsh
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What your tuning

pine gulch
lavish prawn
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No character in rumble history has ever needed a nerf more than OFA Deku

humble night
lavish prawn
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Yeppp

humble night
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Also buff assault all might

lavish prawn
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Amen

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Completely agree

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I'd very much like the devs to remind me why on God's green earth they looked at OFA Deku and said, "yeah, this is fine"

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They had to have been on crack making him bro

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Probably had a party to celebrate the 2nd anniversary and came up with the idea in the middle of drinking their brains out

pine gulch
jaunty rune
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but yeah hes in serious need of nerfs

lavish prawn
lavish prawn
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But this is worse than it's ever been

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They treating rapid Deku like he's half rapid half strike

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at least tone down the damage if the devs don't wanna make him slower

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combos are the main issue I have, but the damage is something else they could fix

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This might be a hot take

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But I think Mic needs a nerf

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It seems like he doesn't solely because people don't play him often. But if more people used him, everyone would see how bad he actually is with the spamming

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Same with compress's alpha

wheat nest
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not a hot take because there is no perfectly balanced characters with most characters in this game.

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Just have to enjoy it for what it is

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But regardless, let's just keep the discussion about OFA Deku in this channel

spare kiln
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Yall can you share the final battle suit tunning i got it

barren glacier
spare kiln
barren glacier
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That should be fine

jaunty rune
spare kiln
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This was my old build cuz i didn't have the suit back then

jaunty rune
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Should be the fancy style

spare kiln
jaunty rune
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Yuh you got it

grave patio
# spare kiln Alr thanks i will consider that one for an alternative play style

from what I can tell on that outfit there's
default with embrittlement card dupe/gp suck
fancy with wallrun + purple hero
combat with red hero + embrittlement
villain with crit perm willpower
keep in mind I still haven't played the character very much but that's the info I have "collected"
surprisingly many viable options which is kinda why I'm considering getting blue deku now so I can get his costume as well

zenith grail
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They can recover on gamma

pine gulch
zenith grail
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Gamma into anything is not true

wheat nest
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They can also recover once you roll too.

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Not a true combo

pine gulch
zenith grail
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Works better on HP naturally

wheat nest
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The only rapid dekus i’m afraid are the ones that master roll cancels

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Makes the combo more true

zenith grail
pine gulch
zenith grail
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Yes but the way you describe it, it is literally impossible for it to be true

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I have woken up out of every Deku gamma I’ve gotten hit with

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And every time I try against someone with Deku they always wake up

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So your experience is an outlier

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Even when only concerning your own if it’s only happened to you once

jaunty rune
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You cannot recover as you fall only a little after the bounce btw

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Gamma stuff is true however lag makes it untrue

jaunty rune
pine gulch
rigid crypt
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can anyone confirm, can trance blow deku still proc 5th gear with a normal melee combo and a air melee into melee combo?

grave patio
# zenith grail Gamma into anything is not true

I thought gamma is kinda random if you can do a true follow up or not depending on how much endlag you get (?) and other stuff, maybe height it attacks at and stuff. I've been hit with a true gamma combo before iirc but 95% or more waking up from it is free

grave patio
grave patio
zenith grail
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Deku is not able to immediately melee after gamma'ing someone if they are a conscious living person

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it's just not possible

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and with no video it's harder to verify your claims

jaunty rune
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And 9 times out of 10 you can melee after because it was literally designed that way your surroundings just don’t make it possible occasionally

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Gamma into melee is very true (why else would it bounce like that) your height and surroundings just never made it possible (along with probably some lag)

jaunty rune
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It is so weird to me why air melee of all moves also stops you from teching midair but shinso froppy and strikiri moves don’t

zenith grail
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You can do this on flat ground and it still wouldn’t be true

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them bouncing is so you can do an alpha or two on them from high above

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But you cannot say the devs wanted you to melee them after because you are literally stopped from doing so by the end lag of the gamma

jaunty rune
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???

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They can make it send down without bouncing for alphas they literally made it so you can follow up with a melee

zenith grail
jaunty rune
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Then you’re too slow

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Just like rapidrio beta into gamma

zenith grail
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I mean that would require you to land the beta in the first place but those aren’t really similar

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The equivalent would be like Alpha alpha beta into gamma

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because the beta isn’t true

zenith grail
jaunty rune
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The point is that it is true you’re just not meleeing after fast enough

zenith grail
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Don’t believe everything you do against bots

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They don’t spam wake up

jaunty rune
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Yet players do

zenith grail
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You can wake up

jaunty rune
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Don’t assume I only play this character in training

jaunty rune
zenith grail
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You want to test your hypothesis in training mode rn?

jaunty rune
zenith grail
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I will show you it’s not true

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Unless you don’t want too?

jaunty rune
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I feel like your melee straight up isnt landing if you think you can tech before the melee

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Thats one way it doesn’t work

zenith grail
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Anything else is just talk dude

jaunty rune
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All because you wanna fight

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Smh

zenith grail
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I’m not asking you to 1v1

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I’m asking you to test wakeups

pine gulch
grave patio
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I think the truth is somewhere in between you guys, I don't got time to test with someone in training rn though else I'd offer cause I'm interested to know myself

zenith grail
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I think it's kinda telling this dude stopped talking the second I offered to test it for real in game

wheat nest
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Idk… but it would nice for peeps to test train wakeups to see if it’s true or not.

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I forget sometimes lag can also be factor to make some combos seem not true. When they are

zenith grail
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idk what happened but playing ofa deku feels a bit rougher now lol

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guess everyone learned how to play against him or something

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I keep my range with certain opponents and just spam alpha on wakeup cause thats a really good strat but still

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I enter a fight for 5 secs and lose all my shield 😭

wheat nest
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fr lol the community is evolving. you try to do one combo on a random but god forbid if his team is around him, you just get melted lmaoo

hoary river
spare kiln
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Yall i need trance blow or iron fist on final battle combat style

spare kiln
dreamy oriole
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Dekuism MidoriyaOFA

sullen stream
carmine garden
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I am actually sick of garbage trance blow dekus I see at least 3 every game

wheat nest
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lol yeah bro. I don't see the appeal with running trance blow like ever. Especially after the DP nerfs on certain characters

carmine garden
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its just mad annoying

jaunty rune
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Yeah I’d run trance blow if it didn’t force you to knock down so early

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I kinda like doing combos

spare kiln
sullen stream
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Or you need to lower your volume

spare kiln
native condor
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You can’t even roll with it on 😭

wheat nest
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it really is the best rage bait tuning

sullen stream
orchid basalt
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It's crazy how the difference between a basic deku player and a really good deku is player is just them knowing how to press m1 (alpha) or not

wheat nest
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when they have trance blow on, I already know they're just a basic ahh deku

orchid basalt
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yup

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those who put trance blow on deku shows incompetency

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at its fullest

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perception on the otherhand

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make you a mega bich

wheat nest
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Perception is so broken lol for how long it lasts at lvl 11

orchid basalt
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it's true

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30 second is wild

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and it's reappliable

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your teammate also get to see them

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so it's not just avoiding a guy for a whole half a minute, but the whole squad

wheat nest
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Yeah. I don't think it should last no more than 15 seconds. And it should only give wall hacks to the individual who activated it. Not the squad included

stuck citrus
carmine garden
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They honestly need to gut overdrive tired of monomas abusing flying bug

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its actually worse than inifnite iida gamma

grave patio
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getting annihilated by overdrive rapimight alpha from skybox ain't fun I do agree

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some degen ****

warped orchid
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As deku main why tf are we running trance blow😒

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Like cmon bruh

jaunty rune
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because its good

orchid basalt
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pathetic people who thought the gimmick is good because it's the only one that has a melee effect on strike tunning

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also

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I find it absurdly ridiculous that basically every rapid deku's moveset can do instant hard knockdown

topaz flicker
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I got him on my second try

warped orchid
orchid basalt
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i think trance blow itself is a sin

warped orchid
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I agree

serene holly
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In my opinion at least

wheat nest
grave patio
# serene holly In my opinion at least

I think it's good sadly, all his moves except melee based combos and air alpha knock down immediately anyway. and trance blow makes rolling gamma either demonically hard or impossible, same with normal beta but to a lesser extend. It's probably worth losing some combos for, though it does also ruin team combos, which might be a reason not to run it.

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will say though that I don't like that using trance blow just lowers the skill ceiling by a lot

serene holly
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I love combo characters and combos are where most of his damage come from so I’m not sacrificing damage just to be annoying

grave patio
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yeah fair, but an extra gamma for free is also like what, 150 ish damage. It is pretty annoying being on the receiving end of it

serene holly
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True, but from all the One For All Dekus with Trance Blow I've fought I have never died because of Trance Blow

grave patio
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I wouldn't run trance blow myself either obv but not for power level concerns

serene holly
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Understandable it is annoying

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I've just fought so many at this point I'm used to moving like a snail

grave patio
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fair enough

wheat nest
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I have never died to a trance blow rapid deku player.

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and I come across them ALOT in my lobbies lol

jaunty rune
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It’s very good

grave patio
# jaunty rune He only has bad downpower on his first melee his final melee and his air melee (...

wait did you test the 1 dp info yourself or are there new resources that have melee down powers somewhere? I tested his down powers myself and was contempt knowing the down power for the other hits had to be between 0 and 3. (I just assumed 0 but knew it might be 1). I want a resource for it so badly though, rn I need to either test myself, or reference mhurdb info with the air melee buffs patch

jaunty rune
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A friend dug through the files and told me

grave patio
jaunty rune
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Unfortunately not

grave patio
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I'm hungry for that

jaunty rune
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Yeah I want to know the melee dp for more things it sucks

grave patio
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I've been considering trying to ask jp players to see if they have japanese resources that include the info I want

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special action downpower too even, I think tamaki's is 100 but it could be 125 and I wouldn't know

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young afo will have dp on his special action too from the looks 😭

jaunty rune
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Yeah I have no clue lmao

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I wanna learn those

wispy nebula
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I am having trouble choosing between Wall Runner and Critical Permeation or High speed replenish and Perception

serene holly
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Deku does not need Wall Runner

jaunty rune
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You give him wall run and hes just better iida

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And he doesn’t need to waste his movement

jaunty rune
wispy nebula
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youre right on saving lots of his movement when im doing wall runner but i also like perception alot because you can track the enemies when they run away from you

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you guys think perception and crit perm is a good combo?

jaunty rune
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Sure

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Wall run is just what I prefer if you like perception go perception

lucid onyx
serene holly
chrome shuttle
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Instead of coming here to complain, I’m just going to ask who’s the best character to kill him

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I want all of you dead to rights

grave patio
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I could be wrong

serene holly
tall flax
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They gotta nerf Rapid deku to the ground like they did with rapid Hawks

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Autotracking on melee? Come on, that's just stupid

flint relic
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In the official tournament he was COOKING

tall flax
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Yeah, but I meant that they took away his flight time

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And don't tell me that you don't find OFA deku's autotracking melee annoying and unfair

grave patio
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also if ya wanna do math with it it multiplies all down power that happens during the effect by 3

serene holly
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Will do

zenith grail
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beta stun removed, beta damage nerfed, alpha tracking nerfed, alpha dmg nerfed, sa uptime decreased, melee combo after final hit removed

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pretty cooked

wheat nest
south solar
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red kiri (yellow if he decides to fight you up close instead of just alphas lmao)

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both mirios

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stuff like tht

thick juniper
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ofa deku level up order?

limber geyser
zenith grail
cedar moat
zenith grail
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Brain dead is like prime momoma or prime hawks

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Who just spam the same move over and over again

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A Deku who knows how to properly use alphas and its variant as well as melee combos and do the double beta

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is pretty terrifying

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I’m not saying he’s hard

limber geyser
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Deku can spam gamma and get away with killing most air characters

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Granted it’s not

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Hawks ooga booga one beta

zenith grail
#

Kinda feel like just

limber geyser
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But it’s still so ridiculously easy to get results

zenith grail
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Don’t be in the air against a rapid Deku then

limber geyser
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Ifyk what I mean

limber geyser
zenith grail
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Small tech that also works for characters like nejire, endeavour and hawks is just dropping will make them miss 100% of the time

zenith grail
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ans even then you can just put space hop on him

limber geyser
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I just thought his gamma no regs

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Rarely

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So hypothetically

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If a deku gammad me

zenith grail
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I mean it’s easy to dodge if you see him coming too ofc

limber geyser
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I could just shoot up on rapidgo and hopefully avoid it?

limber geyser
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But like

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In third parties

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Like okay

zenith grail
limber geyser
zenith grail
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You would get hit too but they would take more dmg

limber geyser
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I’ve done gamma on the ground to trade yeah

zenith grail
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I haven’t confirmed rapidgo gamma actually but I know the Nejire one works

limber geyser
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I’ve just found zipping around corners is the best way to avoid it as rapidgo

zenith grail
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But actually I really dunno if anyone in this game relies on flying besides maybe Ochaco

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Cause even new AFO is fine on ground if I think about it

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Ochaco combo kinda hard to do on ground

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Hawks sa is too short to rely on it

limber geyser
zenith grail
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I guess he has his beta flight

limber geyser
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You use it to stall for cool-downs to come back at times

zenith grail
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Nah assault shouldn’t be in the air that much

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Ochaco

limber geyser
zenith grail
#

Speaking of hawks I really want his strike for the tuning

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Want to roll more but need to guarantee AFO first

limber geyser
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I’ve not messed with it yet

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Could be amazing for tsu or compress tho

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Also compress is gonna be top 3 when Afo tunning drops

zenith grail
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10% pu per 15 seconds at lvl 11

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I think it would be better on characters with low survivability

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so like Nejire or rapid toga

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but yeah on Tsuyu and other stronger characters it only benefits

limber geyser
zenith grail
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with crushing pu like he uses its insane

limber geyser
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Might make one for rapidgo

zenith grail
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I think it’s definitely a top 5 tuning

limber geyser
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Since randoms are always dead

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May aswell be safe

zenith grail
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The new AFO tuning, crit perm and the strike hawks one may be top 3

limber geyser
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That and acceleration

limber geyser
zenith grail
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Acceleration isn’t all that on a lot of character so I’d rank it lower personally

zenith grail
zenith grail
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Those 3 tunings give you the good stuff for free

limber geyser
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Crit perm is such unbelievable rage bait

zenith grail
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The AFO one is a 10 sec double tech card boost from a guard break

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Speaking of Bakugo

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You can use crit perm and Aizawa pot if you have the right costume for it

zenith grail
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Allows you to drink a big gp pot in half the time crit perm is up

limber geyser
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I have nearly every fit😭

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Give us awakened Bakugo I beg

zenith grail
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Cyber hero villain style

limber geyser
#

THE ONE FIT I DONT OWN

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YEEOUCH

zenith grail
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rip

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Yeah that banner it was one was not great

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Shinso’s right?

limber geyser
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I’m running kungfu base rn

zenith grail
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or was it the season before actually

limber geyser
zenith grail
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It came out with the ua map update iirc

zenith grail
limber geyser
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Todo was with shinso?

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Idk man

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Mid skins

zenith grail
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Okay yeah it was s7

limber geyser
#

SEASON 7?

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HOLY

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I thought it was 8min

zenith grail
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on a rapidgo banner

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so yeah

limber geyser
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I seee

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Rapidgo is imo the best aged qs

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Not busted not bad

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Fun as can be

zenith grail
#

Wouldn’t say the best aged cause it got buffed

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a while back

limber geyser
#

Poor dabi is double bottom tiers

zenith grail
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and now with these movement changes

limber geyser
zenith grail
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he can go so far with one sa and a air melee

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He’s pretty annoying

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But he’s no rapid Ochaco or ofa Deku so that’s something

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I’d rather face him than strike kendo or strike kiri too

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He feels fairer than most quirk sets

limber geyser
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I think he’s good but really punishable if you know what you’re doing

zenith grail
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but if the player can hit his shots than dear god

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his alpha does like 96 right?

frigid sonnet
flint relic
zenith grail
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otherwise Nejire would be super A tier

flint relic
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Hawk’s beta, speed of flight, alpha while flying, gamma for perception, and melee combo are good.

You’re just waffling

zenith grail
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his melee combos got cooked

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his sa lasts all of 5 seconds

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his alpha hasn't been all that for like 5 seasons

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melee perception lasts 20x longer

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he's such a cooked character

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like yeah he's good but the glaze is unwarranted

flint relic
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You man are just cheeks with him 😂

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Probs when you played you were carried by his busted set

zenith grail
#

Also you said characters like Momo, if you did not mean grounded characters, who did you mean?

zenith grail
flint relic
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I bet all your mains just so happen to be meta too, right?

zenith grail
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I main kurogiri, aizawa and nejire

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so I mean

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a bit of both

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lol

flint relic
flint relic
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All the cooked characters got slaughtered in the tourney

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These are man with 5KD perennial Ace, place high in tournaments

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But Hawks just somehow is the only good one loool

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Aiight

zenith grail
#

what

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Hawks has just kinda been outclassed, like you can make him work but I can't really remember the last time I saw a rapid hawks in my eu ace ranked games

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even strike hawks I ain't seeing as much now since his debut was a bit ago

flint relic
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Outclassed doesn’t mean cooked wtf

zenith grail
zenith grail
#

but I meant cooked in that he was neutered hard

flint relic
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He’s everywhere, not Deku everywhere but he’s about and STRONG, deffo meta character

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Yea cos he was busted

zenith grail
#

I still need to be convinced on strike hawks being all that

flint relic
#

Hawks is a solid A tier character

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Idk if it was you but someone said B tier

zenith grail
#

I have never really been that pressed by one

flint relic
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He don’t play the game

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And it shows

zenith grail
#

I said high b low a

flint relic
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Yea you’re flat out wrong lool

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Who else is B tier

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Tell me

zenith grail
#

idk I don't make my own tier lists gimme a minute to think

flint relic
#

Who’s in your A and who’s in your B?

zenith grail
#

I would probably put Nejire, Mt Lady and Momo in B tier

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I think using the tournament as a point of reference for how good a character is is kinda disingeneous cause like

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that tournament chose random teams, not the best of the best

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it was a lot less sweaty

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hence why you wasn't seeing a lot of monomas and whatnot

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Again I don't really care enough about rapid hawks these days to say he's not definitively A tier but I've never been rocked by one post like season 9

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and I think the melee combo nerf killed a lot of his value

jaunty rune
#

It doesn’t help that you can dodge him just as easily as you can on launch he has lacklustre damage horrible cooldowns and his movement is alright but not really comparable to lots of the better characters recently

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Hes not as bad as all the previous rapid hawks mains say he is but he is definitely not a anymore

orchid basalt
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but if you're better at it, it's possible to do TOD combo

wheat nest
#

Rapid Hawks really ain't it no more. He's a niche pick atp.

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but why pick Hawks when Rapid Ochaco exists. She gets the job done faster.

zenith grail
jaunty rune
#

Rapidku?

flint relic
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I actually like a challenge

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Ot to pick easy win characters

flint relic
orchid basalt
#

I think Iron Fist also improves the damage

spare kiln
frigid sonnet
# zenith grail don't think he has one

I think a full TOD is possible but only with lag, cuz usually they go too high after looping it twice
But if they lag which makes you hit another double uppercut, they get guardbroken so you can reset the combo with Air Melee and loop them until they die

limber geyser
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Like 500 smth dmg

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Really niche tho

limber geyser
#

Late response my apologies

orchid basalt
serene holly
lean oyster
serene holly
lean oyster
serene holly
lean oyster
native drift
#

yo

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who is the best one at rapid deku

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for them to teach me

lean oyster
serene holly
lean oyster
#

for like a split millisecond

serene holly
#

Is this on HP or GP?

lean oyster
#

lemme show u

serene holly
# lean oyster

Try turning off GP restore in the settings and making it normal damage taken

serene holly
#

I tried it on Young For One and got a guard break first try but on regular All For One he kepts getting i-frames