Neito Monoma

[sharp ledge]

yea toga already has a bug with shiggy gamma

[spring nimbus]

That fact that I already figured that would be the case without even seeing anything on it is crazy. Toga bugs never stop 😂

[sharp ledge]

she’s prolly the buggiest character rn icl😭

[amber gazelle]

crit perm??

[sharp ledge]

hate how buggy it is

[gentle fiber]

lol just had a nasty combo, shigi alpha.yellow endy beta and afo gamma was a fun match

[sharp ledge]

new shiggy alpha is so fun

[amber gazelle]

i fear they might be able to wake up before the alpha hits

but other than that the real problem is finding an assault all might to steal from

[sharp ledge]

assault might in this current meta is never happening😭

deffo gonna try go for it if i do get it

[sharp ledge]

yea the range on it is insane tho

[wet cradle]

i wish i had a skin for monoma if i did id probably main

[sharp ledge]

didn’t you grind for his UA fit ?

that’s his best build i doubt any new outfits could beat it

[wet cradle]

i had temporarily quit the game during that timeframe unfortunately

[sharp ledge]

sad but valid since he was ruining the game at that time

[wet cradle]

i didnt quit because he was op ive quit like 2 times before both reasons were because of my absolutely horrid luck with the gacha
the past 2 seasons especially prove that

i quit like right as kurogiri came out and i didnt come back for several months

[sharp ledge]

gacha sucks

[wet cradle]

its actually not that bad its just me being so incredibly unlucky

[kindred swallow]

new monoma tech

you can see through walls forever

i dont know if i should reveal tho

[dim wraith]

I don’t play this game as much as I used to. But last season I was doing well with monoma. Now that dmg nerf is ridiculous I can’t kill anything lol

[sharp ledge]

wanna reveal it!

[sharp ledge]

yea the damage nerf is annoying but he still has some stupid combos

[digital relic]

Anyone got a monoma build

Whoops I don’t even have a costume for him

[wet magnet]

Exploiter

[sharp ledge]

it’s for educational purposes i wanna try it in customs

[wet magnet]

Why are y'all making cheating in customs the norm now lmao

[sharp ledge]

it’s a bug💔

[kindred swallow]

Get shiggy alpha and blueku gamma

And use blueku gamma dash

And it'll show lock on thru walls

[sharp ledge]

oh ik bout that i thought u meant constant search

[kindred swallow]

Oh nah

Thats not possible

[sharp ledge]

you should try this build out if you have it built

[amber gazelle]

I’m saving for a potential character on the 17th

my tuning mats

they should really give more in the licence

[sharp ledge]

oh that’s fair she better be fun

[wet magnet]

Hope she actually comes out 🥺

[sharp ledge]

i don’t see the devs giving us 40+ days without any new release

[wet magnet]

They cld drop monoma and ibara new fit and call it a day

Let's hope not

[kindred swallow]

AHHH I JUSR REALIZED YOUR USING MY ART AS YOUR PFP

🥹

[sharp ledge]

YEA ITS SO PEAK

you cooked❤️

[kindred swallow]

THANK YOUUU🥹

[lapis dune]

Was wondering after his nerfs,

Does he do less damage over time with effects like Shigaraki's Decay or any of the burn effects? Or does he do the same

[spring nimbus]

The damage nerf doesn’t effect damage over time

[digital relic]

Anyone have a build for monoma without a costume cause I don’t got any

[sharp ledge]

@kindred swallow do yk what the pfp is called my friend wants a kiri version

[kindred swallow]

Wym do u know what it is called?

I dont know i jusr remember finding a cute lil guy on Pinterest and seen others used it so I made it for my cousin and me and some others

[sharp ledge]

it’s alr i found it ty for help ❤️

[kindred swallow]

Alr

[tawdry minnow]

https://youtu.be/Tz46bKhJ244?si=4m9TniTiHIfMlBgR

[wet cradle]

Is Monoma any good with no tuning? I like playing him, but I've avoided doing so because I lack any skin for him.

[gentle fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-ishowspeed-gif-1290931606264393136

[tawdry minnow]

no

and skill issue

https://tenor.com/view/alastor-hazbin-hotel-discord-ping-ping-discord-gif-7176754823435532820

[wet cradle]

Both skill issue and luck issue. I have the worst gacha luck in all of MHUR, and I also suck at the game.

So, yeah, you're right.

[tawdry minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/alastor-hazbin-hotel-gif-12771880328597852338

yes

[spring nimbus]

He is, any character can still be good without tuning, as it just elevates what they already are(except yellow kiri)

[sharp ledge]

if you’re pur less you could pull for his new fit the tunings decent

[wet cradle]

I have a big lack of tickets, I can hardly roll for anything let alone for skins. So unfortunately not, but I'll probably get it at some point.

[sharp ledge]

since you can’t pull for any purs atm you should look for an outfit with good subslots that can bring his damage back

[sharp ledge]

peak ppl still like calling monoma no skill 💔

[wide otter]

Fr, I need his og hp back though

[plush cedar]

Imo he's still very rapidlike so i think he should keep his hp as it is 😭

You can have your base beta, rapid mirio's alpha, rapid all might's beta and rapid toga's gamma

[spring nimbus]

In an ideal world that would be true, but when we have someone like tech AM with 400 hp, roles don’t really matter anymore😂

[plush cedar]

It is still a possibility, but if you manage to get his beta you get good enough movement aswell, sneaking in gamma is excessive but if you get his you can pretty much run and stun the all might

[sharp ledge]

hit a nice combo on this froppy

[sharp ledge]

yo tyrant you think nagants gonna be a character worth copying

[amber gazelle]

the dmg is ahh so don't care

300 sounds fine

[clever dirge]

Holy ping but nice combo

[sharp ledge]

yea i was laggy ash😭

[clever dirge]

😭

[sharp ledge]

people do NOT agree with that

some ppl still think monoma takes 0 skill and is tech mirio level💔

[sharp ledge]

im hyped to lab nagants kit and see what combos i can use

[clever dirge]

Nagant beta -> Shinso alpha sounds fun

Or Nagant gamma -> Aizawa alpha

[spring nimbus]

Not being able to do scoped shots sucks in the fun category, but it is what it is. For the alpha, depends on the damage ngl. If it’s still good damage with the 20% nerf like yellow endy alphas are then yeah, it’d be a solid copy. I think beta also looks pretty strong, and gamma is cool movement option. She’s probably around the same tier as like a rapidgo in terms of copy priority. Solid quirks, but there are better one for sure.

I also think monoma will have a good matchup against her. Tanking her scoped shots with gamma then using her gamma to close distance if need be

[sharp ledge]

im praying we get an actual balance patch too 💔

[frigid sleet]

seeing kamko rage here was quite funny ngl especially with an ''auto combo'' character

[spring nimbus]

gg @sharp ledge

think that was the first time ive ever ran into you

[sharp ledge]

what was ur user i lowkey didnt check

[spring nimbus]

Nazgul

one of the many nagants lol

her gamma is amazing on monoma tho, so much distance

[sharp ledge]

technki alpha and nagant gamma is insane i had it a few games ago

[amber gazelle]

who cares tho at this point

he already got so many good movement options

[spring nimbus]

cuz its arguably the best

besides like kuro beta and what not

[amber gazelle]

is it

like it's pretty good but

armoured all might beta is both a really good attack and also really good movement

same with aizawa alpha

I guess for gamma based movement options its the best unless I'm forgetting something?

besides like kurogiri's gamma if you want tp but ya

pretty sad he's been reduced to a rat playstyle

also kendo gamma might take you further actually

strike kendo

[sharp ledge]

i was playing like buns but DAMM bro

[gentle fiber]

where did bro go ? 💀

[sharp ledge]

kirkified sadly

[sharp ledge]

@amber gazelle what’s ur thoughts on nagant so fair

[amber gazelle]

im actually shadowbanned so havent been able to try her out in real matches but

350+ dmg headshot is pretty broken when u can guarantee it with beta or air melee

[sharp ledge]

she has a tod too

[amber gazelle]

is it the beta alpha alpha sa one

[sharp ledge]

nah it’s this one

[amber gazelle]

dmn

[gentle fiber]

lol lady nagant have the same bug as monoma did with deku gamma. dont see ppl crying abt it 24/7 crazy

[amber gazelle]

its day 2

most people don't know it exists yet

when it becomes common knowledge and people start abusing it to hold games hostage

you will see people "crying" as you so kindly put it

also to be fair to monoma this is 100x worse

you can stall forever with lady nagant

monoma at least the cooldown would eventually run out and you couldn't just stay at the skybox forever

[gentle fiber]

fr, its much worse

[sharp ledge]

it’s funny how im seeing people justify nagants stupid damage output

[kindred swallow]

Nerf headshot to 250

She's good

Perhaps increase downpower on reg alpha if u want

Nerf bodyshot 2 150 - 170

[gentle fiber]

i actually watched so many clips of rapids getting 1 shotted by her lmao

[sharp ledge]

yea she’s dumb needing aim doesn’t justify her damage in the slightest

[sharp ledge]

her beta could use some nerfs down power wise

[gentle fiber]

atp every single character comes out beyond broken. and no any news of balance patchs. its so annoying

[sharp ledge]

nagants top 2 ngl

[spring nimbus]

Which is crazy to say cuz I never thought red kiri would leave top 3 for me. And he hasn’t even got any meaningful nerfs. Holy power creep💔

[sharp ledge]

oh yea did you see her flying tech too

people out here saying she’s fine because she takes aim

[spring nimbus]

Yeah, it’s ridiculous

Best movement in the game

[sharp ledge]

does she look like she’s good in tourney and comp in ur opinion i havent played her much

[spring nimbus]

Absolutely, she can team combo really well (like ocha float alpha into nagant SA is a tod and easy af). This also mean she can play well with afo building comps. She has 300 hp so she can make storm plays. She has good movement base kit, so she won’t be hopped as easily. And if doing the beta cancel is allowed then gg. She can also be the one to set up combos with her beta cuz it stuns for some reason. And shes a strike, so the damage boost is welcome.

[spring nimbus]

In a no ban tourney I can see a very meta comp being tech Might, nagant, froppy

The only thing is that she is liable to get mauled by building/aoe comps end game because she loses her range presence. But then again, what character doesn’t lol

[sharp ledge]

yea her betas underrated it sets you up for the easiest snipe shot it could’ve been nice if monoma had the scope too

[amber gazelle]

Range presence isn’t too bad of a loss

You can guarantee her headshot sa with beta or air melee still

and the beta is big AOE boom

[amber gazelle]

tech might using 3 ground beta cancels on you into a nagant headshot would be so crazy

[sharp ledge]

if monoma could use her scope that combo would be insane

[vapid leaf]

buff monoma, lwk ahh chr now

his nerf of dealing 80% dmg killed him

[sharp ledge]

ehh he’s still good he’s like low A tier

[halcyon gyro]

Buddy doesn't seem to like that he has to learn a character now. 🥺🥺

I played Monoma a few time this season, and I still have a blast with him. I do spam here and there, but I need to be more considerate of my gage now. He is frale, so I need to assess if the quirks I have allow me to stay in the fight or adapt a hit and run style until I can get my hands in better quirks. And lastly, some combos are just fun to do.

Don't you love to Tamaki grab someone and FORCE them to tank a Shoto B?

And then do it again!? :D

[kindred swallow]

monoma glitch /tec

take denki quirk than swap it out

it will make the denki who you stole froms electrical wire damage become yours

and it can effect his teammates

[gentle fiber]

u having a blast for a certain character on some games doesnt mean he is strong or inneed of buffs, what is that logic

i saw ppl have insane games with tech dabi, doesnt mean he is not bad overall

[amber gazelle]

I agree with the guy above

I have fun on nejire but I have no allusions to her being a tier

monoma currently isn't that worth it with what he does

250hp with lvl 4 moves at lvl 9, card dupe sounds like it would fix this but you realise you are dealing such low dmg that you will need to just steal kills

and yeah the combos are still fun but you're more like a mosquito than an actual threat

and when everyone and their mother has 300+ dmg combos nowadays its hard to actually be effective

and no, the gamma is not a solution, that gets countered by someone who either waits it out or just has an ability that rapid fires.

[sharp ledge]

where’s he at in ur tier list

im saying he’s A but i might be overestimating him

[amber gazelle]

Sorry forgot to respond

Honestly might be B tier if not bottom of A tier

Low damage and low hp

ooo you can chain different abilities to do dmg! What a gimmick! Too bad your gimmick sucks actually dealing damage and is more of a party trick now

Like any character with their base kit is gonna out damage him pretty easily

[tawdry minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-anime-sakuga-season-five-mha-gif-21997064

wait until the monoma skillset is out

[kindred swallow]

In 15 yrs

[tawdry minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-adam-alastor-gif-13590696931909592932

[uneven patrol]

any adive on monoma?

[sharp ledge]

training mode a lot

[tawdry minnow]

just copy

others

https://tenor.com/view/cid-kagenou-evil-laugh-anime-anime-eminence-of-shadow-kage-no-jit-gif-27608851

[uneven patrol]

but what if i dont use copy

if i solely use his default

[tawdry minnow]

The worst kit

In the game

Support monoma playstyle mhm

👀

[sharp ledge]

that’d just be selling on purpose

[radiant lotus]

how does monama actually work i dont understand his character

[sharp ledge]

test him in training

[radiant lotus]

But is his copy ability random? Because it never works

[amber gazelle]

no?

if you hit someone with your alpha and then press your sa button you now have their alpha when you press your alpha button again

same for beta

gamma you need to be hit by anything while in your tetsutetsu form

and you get the gamma of whoever hit you

[sharp ledge]

^

[radiant lotus]

OH

THATS HOW IT WORKS?

MB

[amber gazelle]

Always test out in training mode and read the skill details of the character you’re playing for the first time my man

[merry forge]

Is one day monoma actualy gone deal damage ?

[sharp ledge]

he does decent dmg i doubt they’ll revert the nerf

[radiant lotus]

What are the best characters to copy?

[long coral]

I would say it just depends on you. I have a few dozen combinations I will try to find in game but if it doesn't happen you just gotta make do. I usually try to have at least one mobility skill so I don't have to switch quirks for movement.

I would say trying to use him to just steal a whole kit isnt nearly as good as it use to be with all the nerfs but doing a mix and match to make a perfect build is still perfectly viable and can do some serious damage.

Personally I would recommend looking into knockdown values of alot of the moves and try to align things that give you combos or at least some sort of compatibility

[sharp ledge]

depends on what playstyle ur tryna play on him

[dim wraith]

There’s multiple play styles? I seen people mentioning “support” monoma what does that consist of?

[sharp ledge]

some go for utility sets or aoe sets combo sets too

[merry forge]

Best you could do for dmg is blue mirio alfa, All for one yought beta and Endeavor gamma, this way you could spam in end game without leaving the sky exept to regain your special action bar (take a tunning for it that better) it's rare to be able doing this because there not allway a mirio and a all for one yought age in your game but hey, it's up to you to be adaptive right ?

[tawdry minnow]

Solo Strike Monoma playstyle

I usually cook with afo alpha, ofa deku beta/Rapid all might beta( any good mobility ), lady nagant gamma for more mobility or tech shigi gamma for more chances of survival

This combo changes every season, with the new character in mind

[dim wraith]

Give monoma his dmg back! Don’t punish us because you give other characters cracked abilities lol

[sharp ledge]

yea ppl still want his gamma nerfed too

[dim wraith]

I love lady nagant alpha

[tawdry minnow]

Skillset monoma will be meta

https://tenor.com/view/alastor-laugh-gif-5327493117600768506

[uneven patrol]

any advice on monoma?

[dim wraith]

He needs to be maxed to be effective. So if you’re not a good looter or have the proper tunings don’t bother.

[uneven patrol]

im working on maxing his free pur when the devs fix the new year thing

[sharp ledge]

yea he’s level reliant

[wet cradle]

any obscure tips for monoma yall got

[wet cradle]

free pur?

whut

[uneven patrol]

his tracksuit

[wet cradle]

ugh i wish i hadnt quit the game while that was there

i have no monoma skins

[sharp ledge]

abuse gamma it’s busted

[wet cradle]

how

whats the level order ive always been maxing beta first

[dim wraith]

It’s really reliant on your teammates, if I have a rapid mirio I’ll level up the alpha first, and if I have a kurogiri I’ll level up the beta first

[sharp ledge]

it’s free iframes so u can block hits and take no dmg

[wet cradle]

what if i dont want to take their quirk

[dim wraith]

You should always take them, so you can atleast quirk refresh that don’t mean you have to keep them

[spring nimbus]

its better to have a gamma that you dont want then to just die

[spring nimbus]

not really that obscure, but just knowing certain animation cancels. Like red shiggy/kendo beta with any gamma. And that gearshift monoma is still possible if you cancel the gamma dash with specific betas

[dim wraith]

I’m debating between two builds the crit perm & high speed. Or divine protection and hyper regeneration

I love being maxed out divine protection. But I also hate being 3rd partied which is why I run the crit perm

[tawdry minnow]

practice every character

and learn their skills

[tawdry minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/alastor-hazbin-hotel-hazbin-hotel-alastor-realisation-laugh-gif-6503193770891531669

[sharp ledge]

yea lots of training mode he’s not as easy to pick up as ppl say

[tawdry minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/monoma-neito-monoma-monoma-neito-anime-smirk-anime-smug-gif-1180702780880294464

[wet cradle]

i mean i guess

but then i get ofa dekus gamma or smth wtf do i do them

then

[spring nimbus]

Make due with what you have or get a different one. You have to be flexible when it comes to your gammas

[sharp ledge]

tyrant you thinking of making a new guide for him?since his playstyle changed a lot

[spring nimbus]

Nah I haven’t, I think the guide still applies for most of the community, his play style really only changed at high level play cuz of how quickly he gets blow up now. And I haven’t really even been playing much this season. Games in the worst state it’s ever been in with the release of the trio of terror😭

I still have an afo guide I’ve been sitting on for like 6 months😂

[sharp ledge]

the games meta is somehow worse than s7 😭

[spring nimbus]

Yeah somehow. Tech might and Shiggy was already pushing it. Nagant was just icing on the cake

Which is unfortunate, cuz I do like her and her simplicity. Just severely overturned

[sharp ledge]

she’s not even worth pulling for on console tbh

pc has a clear advantage with her

[spring nimbus]

Exactly 😂, I didn’t even attempt on console, I did on pc tho.

I just hope she gets toned down as quick as monoma, and not go under the radar for a year and avoid the nerfs like red kiri🫩

[sharp ledge]

im hoping we get a balance patch 😭

the games so cancer rn

[amber gazelle]

yeah is pretty sad

i just pick up nagant, shiggy or nagant and go onto get causal 10ko and 8-11k dmg games

[sharp ledge]

ppl say she’s fine cause she takes aim 💔

[amber gazelle]

kiri beta hitting for 94 at lvl 9 is like

the saddest thing i've seen in my life

bros doing this cool combo to get the same damage aizawa does with 1 alpha slam

cooked character

[dim wraith]

Facts. Like the devs couldn’t find any other solution besides the crazy dmg nerf?

And I love characters who are able to copy other charters abilities. Toga just don’t do it for me anymore. Monoma was perfect. The element of surprise & the mix and matching of quirks

[sharp ledge]

yea they nerfed him hard

but he’s still decently good

[tawdry minnow]

are you monoma mains still alive?

[kindred swallow]

Yes

[sharp ledge]

yea barely i don’t blame ppl for dropping him tbh he’s just mid now

combos r flashy and all but there’s no point when it doesn’t even guardbreak

[tawdry minnow]

beta guard breaks

https://tenor.com/view/alastor-demon-form-hazbin-hotel-gif-7507956454764238244

[sharp ledge]

double beta is nice but it’s so buggy most of the time

[dim wraith]

Me being delusional hoping monoma gets his dmg back after maintenance 😂😭

[spring nimbus]

He got his hp back at least

[dim wraith]

Ughh ig that’ll do for now😭😂 (not really lol)

[sharp ledge]

red kiri still going untouched is pretty funny

[gentle fiber]

just to pump his costume sales

[sharp ledge]

sadly everyone’s gonna keep running his crit perm build

[spring nimbus]

Fr😂

[spring nimbus]

I’ve had a bet going on since October on whether not red kiri will receive any meaningful nerfs before Alls Justice comes out. Still going strong😂

[halcyon gyro]

SO

You Monoma mains got your 300HP back

How are we feeling?

[tawdry minnow]

Never stopped me from getting the W

[tawdry minnow]

Good ig

I can survive the storm healing clutch now

[sharp ledge]

he’s still mid but better survivability and no more getting insta killed when going for quirks you want

[sharp ledge]

^

[sharp ledge]

red kiri ain’t getting touched anytime soon

[sharp ledge]

the devs turn a blind eye and decide to nerf mount lady instead

[frigid sleet]

not doing anything to nagant and aam should tell us everything about the future

[upper glacier]

Monoma wasn't nerfed for 2 seasons btw

They dont nerf newer characters this has been known

[frigid sleet]

they totally need them

[upper glacier]

They do

[sharp ledge]

he got his hp nerfed in the season he dropped correct me im if wrong

[upper glacier]

After jt

But that wasn't a nerf

He didn't need to touch the ground at the time

[tawdry minnow]

he was a god in the eyes of the devs

so he got the fastest nerf

[sharp ledge]

complaining about monoma getting his hp back is questionable

[upper glacier]

So was hawks

They are the two messiahs of mhur who were shot down

[tawdry minnow]

fallen angels

[sharp ledge]

tbh nagants on par with prime hawks i want to see her gutted

[amber gazelle]

@hallow yarrow this is an abhorrent take

He has a lot of mobility yes but that’s all he had

The gamma isn’t that big of a problem either when you realise you can shoot in between when he tries to cooldown refresh for the next one

If you want to complain about characters stalling to be guaranteed 2nd place let’s talk rapid Mirio

who actually HAS damage

from an auto combo

[sharp ledge]

^

[amber gazelle]

like idk man I’ve never had a momoma pressure me since his damage nerf

and I’ve dealt with Monoma’s who gamma spammed before

I just keep shooting through their gammas and when they try beta away I shoot them down

Wasn’t all that

not like they can have their gamma on AND use another quirk or basekit ability

I don’t think people understand how much the dmg nerf killed this guy

combined with the 250hp

[kindred swallow]

Monoma buff

[amber gazelle]

if the gamma spam was as great as people claimed you’d be seeing a lot more Monoma’s

[kindred swallow]

Give him 10% dmg reduction

[sharp ledge]

complaining about an extra 50 hp when he does pitiful dmg is stupid

[wide otter]

To bad his 300 hp ain't enough

[gentle fiber]

thats when i know that person just cant play the game, complaining about A and below tier characters means u suck. simple

[sharp ledge]

yea it’s pretty obvious it’s a skill issue tbh

[glass yoke]

I never thought I’d be here again

Yet here we are

Ngl the extra 50 hp makes Monoma feel SO much better

[tepid ore]

so like how do i play this dude

[glass yoke]

Chaotically

Grab one of your teammates quirks, and then begin throwing hands

But definitely get levels first

He’s a high skill ceiling character and his complexities make themselves VERY well known fast

You just gotta fish for certain abilities you think will be good, and then make combinations that make zero sense to demolish people

Now that I think about it… Monoma would be a good character to make a guide over

[halcyon gyro]

I feel like Monoma's guide on the database will be the longest to make. 😭

Because how would you describe his match up with all characters?

They'll all just say "Unknown"

I'm not kidding. Check out the other guides they have rn, and they'll show the every character has an "Unknown" match up against Monoma, saying that it's purely based on what quirks he copied.

Also, I feel people still hate Monoma because there are SOME people who, despite the nerf, still be corny and spam and cooldown refresh. 💔

[tepid ore]

is monomas damage worse than the og quirk holder?

[amber gazelle]

Yes.

[sharp ledge]

@spring nimbus can you test monomas gamma i think they shadow nerfed it

[weak oar]

which one is better

[spring nimbus]

yeah ive tried and seen some ppl say this, but ive looked at some old clips and the time looks the same. But at the same time it def feels like you have less i-frames so idk ngl 😭

[sharp ledge]

or broke it or sum

[sharp ledge]

bro keeps getting nerfed😭

[spring nimbus]

ok after testing it again it def got shadow nerfed

try it against a yellow endy gamma and u really feel the difference

[sharp ledge]

nerfing his gamma is fine but at least let him get some dmg back💔

[sharp ledge]

yea it’s pretty bad

[spring nimbus]

Ts is actually tragic

unironically have to play full support monoma now

might run warp heal speedy civ atp

[tepid ore]

do they just hate my boy

[sharp ledge]

tell that to the dudes who still think he’s high A

[spring nimbus]

monoma is bottom of B now for me

[spring nimbus]

if he didnt get his 300 back id put him C lmaoo

hawks treatment

[sharp ledge]

yea they gotta give us some dmg back he fell off hard

how r u feeling bout the Iida buffs btw

[spring nimbus]

cool buffs, im not a big Ilda fan myself so im not sure about what the extra alpha allows him to do, but solid imo. Im sure the dedicated Ilda players loving it rn

Tho I never thought Ilda was bad or weak, its just rapid deku came out and he just does what Ilda does but better

W power creep

[sharp ledge]

the devs suck icl alls justice better save us

[gentle fiber]

oh sht, okey they went all the way of nerfing everything on him. might as well take his refresh and put him to death

😭

[sharp ledge]

yea they killed him

[dim wraith]

I’m going back to rapidgo😔 other characters just do too much dmg

[sharp ledge]

damm i don’t blame you for dropping him icl he’s buns

[hallow yarrow]

It's just how I feel. He can still skycamp his way to a guaranteed top 2 placement. It's dumb. Sorry if I offended y'all but the last thing this guy needs is a buff when he can do this.

Removed cooldown resets is the only way Monoma will be balanced.

[sharp ledge]

if you remove his cd resets rn you’d literally kill the character

[upper glacier]

So is aam

[sharp ledge]

tyrant it was just a training mode bug😭

[spring nimbus]

seems so, ppl was saying it felt same in game

this game bro 💔

[sharp ledge]

game out here lying to us😭

[hallow yarrow]

Seeing as how the rest of the cast get by fine without ignoring the game's system, I don't see it. Just make him work like AFO.

It cannot be that difficult.

As I've said he can have more HP if his ability to spam resets was removed.

Y'all can even get greedy like Toga and have 350 lol

[spring nimbus]

in an ideal world, yes that would be an issue, but when you have a character who can do that just by existing (both mirios) while out preforming monoma in every other category, then this is a nonissue.

Not to mention the many, many other characters who don't abide by the games systems who are much more problematic. Lets not be stuck in season 11 plz

And considering there is like 4-5 nagants every game and her alpha and SA both go through monoma gamma, you're not really gonna survive if you're just air stalling

[hallow yarrow]

Being forced to play a character to counter 1 skycamper is cringe dawg, why did he even get an HP buff is my question.

[sharp ledge]

have you played him ?

[hallow yarrow]

Yeah, spam invincibility, sneak an attack in, dodge roll, Beta Beta, cooldown reset, repeat till win and then skycamp at end game.

That's if people decide to even bother fighting without skipping to the skycamping part.

The very idea that you need cooldown resets is just really laughable to me I'm sorry.

another skycamping character able to beat him being the reason why he's 50 HP bulkier is not a good one. 2 wrongs don't make a right and all of that jazz.

[sharp ledge]

so you’re complaining about his survivability which is the only thing he has going for him ?

[hallow yarrow]

The skycamping yes.

Don't call it survivability it's just skycamping lol.

Making the skycamping target more bulky is not the way to go

[sharp ledge]

im really confused on how he camps the sky does he have a bug i don’t know about ?

[hallow yarrow]

Simply not instantly using up his Special gives him plenty. Grab a mobility quirk like Iida's or whoever, then go to town all the way at skybox.

Effectively 6 base uses of his Beta and 12 Iida Alphas alone keep him up there a while.

At least with Nagant it's an exploit when she skycamps

This on the other hand is intentionally how he's designed.

[sharp ledge]

that’s because of a quirk not really the character

[hallow yarrow]

In a meta filled with flyers he can very easily grab himself a mobility option 😅

[sharp ledge]

even with the “skycamp” he’s still B tier idk why you’re complaining about monoma getting 50 hp when nagant or aam didn’t even get touched

[hallow yarrow]

Both are bad don't get me wrong.

It's silly to expect them to get touched in the same season they're introduced though, like we know Byking at this stage.

Took 2 seasons for even Monoma to get his damage nerfed

Not an ideal nerf mind you, like I said cooldown resets being removed would be peak Monoma. Then yall can do all the damage and be as bulky as ya like.

I don't know why people are so against that.

[sharp ledge]

if you’re against cooldown resets why not mention togas ?

[amber gazelle]

People are against removing cooldown resets because rn he has 20% damage nerf

And yeah idk man maybe sky camping would’ve been an issue a few seasons ago

But AAM and Nagant got released this season

as well as the rapid all might buff

He isn’t defending himself from those three in the sky, just makes him an easier target

Then again I’ve played like 300 games this season and I’ve not seen a single sky camping monoma so I don’t really know what you’re talking about

[hallow yarrow]

Yeah and I'm saying he could have his damage back if he had his cooldown resets removed. He'd be like a swiss army knife version of AFO, which sounds awesome.

[hallow yarrow]

Update was yesterday and I've seen 3 Monoma skycamp wins in a row lol

[hallow yarrow]

I've always hated Toga, always have and always will. But to her very little credit, including all of her bug exploits, she's never been known to skycamp.

[amber gazelle]

And with what damage are they winning with

Also if an AAM, Nagant or Rapid All Might are letting them sit up there then they’re just bad.

[amber gazelle]

Fair

[hallow yarrow]

It's not like Monoma is the essence evil or anything, it'd just be an ideal way to implement him without it being game breaking

we all hate skycampers, exploit or not, I'd like to see less of it next season

[gentle fiber]

well if thats the case i hope u dont run into monomas. rather AAms and nagants to keep u happy more 🙂

[hallow yarrow]

Man y'all just really can't stand this guy getting the most sensible criticism huh lol

[spring nimbus]

ngl man for this to happen it might genuinely be a skill issue

And the criticism is fine, I just dont know why were criticizing monoma when there about 5 other major targets on the board rn 💀

[hallow yarrow]

It's the most
"I like pancakes."
"So you hate waffles."
conversation I've had today lol

All the latest characters are overtuned and need nerfs. It's just those always come a season later.

To expect anything more is just ignorance of how Byking balances this game.

He||, genuinely convinced they just buffed his HP for his reroll banner.

[spring nimbus]

I mean they def did, they always do something of the sort

[hallow yarrow]

Yeah that's why I posted about it lol

I don't like purely monetary changes like that

[spring nimbus]

I doubt anyone does

but the skycamping criticism is just a nonissue in my eyes. Like sure they can get top 2 ig (shouldn't even get this far if the lobby is somewhat competent), but in no world should they win

And like cool said, there are gaps when he is trying to cooldown reset for gamma spam, he can be punished

Is it annoying and a corny playstyle? yes. But thats legit 90% of the things in this game

[hallow yarrow]

Well I'm not gonna just stand for it, I will speak my mind about it. Just because things are the way they are doesn't mean we shouldn't discourage them making it worse.

[subtle bramble]

Initially when Monoma released I thought he would be like how Milczek desrcribed as a swiss army knife kind of character. I don't think their intention when releasing monoma was to allow him to do that

[amber gazelle]

Problem is you made feedback about reversing a 50 hp buff for a very low a tier character

because he had great mobility

[subtle bramble]

But now we have nagant, which is a direct counter to that playstyle, (not that it justifies it btw). I'm not against sky camping because it's free wins 😋 but it's very clear that byking did not think through when doing that in response to the roster of characters who are able to punish him

[amber gazelle]

you can speak about whatever you want but that was balderdash

imo

He does 96 dmg on a lvl 9 strike Kiri beta

I don’t think you realise how insane that is

[hallow yarrow]

It's a nothing change that encourages people to roll for him at best. I don't like that.

I want actual balance not based on monetary gain.

[amber gazelle]

I disagree heavily 50hp can change a lot

25 changed a lot for rapid Mirio

[subtle bramble]

I think Milczek is saying that because it changes a lot, it gives people an incentive to pull him

[amber gazelle]

Brother he just said it’s a nothing change

[hallow yarrow]

At best

[amber gazelle]

So you weren’t saying it changes a lot

[subtle bramble]

yes, a "Nothing" change in terms of balancing the game overtly

He's saying the change is not authentic

[hallow yarrow]

Thank you Nine

[amber gazelle]

1 character buff will not change the game overtly unless the chapter is top 5

Well a hp buff anyway

[subtle bramble]

I mean guess what Milczek was trying to suggest earlier, I mean i just got here rn but go look rq

[amber gazelle]

Monoma was a contender for B tier

before this buff

[hallow yarrow]

I'm just annoyed we waited almost an entire season for a reason to pull for a character, great.

Other changes weren't too bad at least, I like the Assault Endeavor nerf

[amber gazelle]

And now his gamma has apparently been nerfed so he might just still be a contender

[hallow yarrow]

He was very broken lol

[amber gazelle]

Don’t really think it was necessarily a change for the banner considering assault Ochaco rereleased 2 weeks ago

after a long string of nerfs

[subtle bramble]

#1374669272047030353 message

[amber gazelle]

After his 20% damage nerf? Absolutely not lol

[hallow yarrow]

I'm talking about Assault Endeavor.

[amber gazelle]

Well doesn’t matter to me

[amber gazelle]

hard to tell

[subtle bramble]

gamma was not nerfed is all im saying

[amber gazelle]

based on your feedback message

[hallow yarrow]

^

[amber gazelle]

I am aware that’s all you’re saying

[amber gazelle]

Split up messages

[hallow yarrow]

It's okay

[kindred swallow]

Monoma is A-tier

[amber gazelle]

Yeah I know it’s okay what

😭

[amber gazelle]

I’ll call him a tier when I start getting pressured by one again, rn it’s speculation I think

he’s got s tier mobility but I can get that on aam and Nagant AND shield crack in a single second

[subtle bramble]

I think op stuff like that being normalized is the reason why people are against the monoma cd thing

[amber gazelle]

Doesn’t really matter for Monoma because his damage is still trash

[hallow yarrow]

I would definitely take more damage over skycamping

[amber gazelle]

There’s multiple characters even outside of those two that can compete with his mobility

2 of them are free

[subtle bramble]

His damage is trash in response to him having the cd resets

[kindred swallow]

🤷‍♂️

[subtle bramble]

does that make sense?

[amber gazelle]

I would too

[amber gazelle]

you can cd reset all you want, damage knockdown values still remain the same

[kindred swallow]

Thats why you use ones with low

U build ur own combi

Combo

To make up for it

[amber gazelle]

the ones with low are ones you typically don’t need to cd reset

[subtle bramble]

I don't agree bc before this patch u could cd reset like 4 endeaver beta/gamma and melt anyone

while sky camping btw

[kindred swallow]

4 ?

[subtle bramble]

yes 2 beta 2 gamma while being airborn on assualt endeaver

[kindred swallow]

U right

[subtle bramble]

i worded that wrong but that is what im trying to say

[kindred swallow]

Oh u counting both

[subtle bramble]

yea sorry lol worded that funny

[amber gazelle]

This was a problem before when his sa usage was low but after the nerf no

[hallow yarrow]

Normalize skycamping hate

[amber gazelle]

He throws 2 of each down and then comes back down

[kindred swallow]

It aight

[amber gazelle]

Stays up there for like 10 seconds and then has to wait for a recharge?

[kindred swallow]

I need the monoma to keep his movement so I can track down these cheating nagants

[amber gazelle]

Also if you were getting caught by an endeavour gamma when caught in the beta you are a cooked player

[subtle bramble]

a few days ago i did just that and last circle was at the villain mansion and it was just impossible to get me LMAO

[amber gazelle]

that is the least guaranteed combo in the history of non guaranteed combos

[amber gazelle]

Bro that is the worst example to choose from 😭

[subtle bramble]

lowkey yea but it worked out

[sharp ledge]

nah thankfully it was just a training mode bug

[amber gazelle]

Mansion has the highest poi on that map

so the skybox should be low af

in comparison

[subtle bramble]

because it has the highest point i never really touched the ground

[amber gazelle]

unless they were all grounded characters?

[subtle bramble]

there was a nagant but assault endeaver alpha scared her off

[amber gazelle]

assault endeavour alpha on Monoma scared her off

💀

air melee merchant

[subtle bramble]

assault endeaver alpha

did like 54 dmg

per hit

[amber gazelle]

I’m sorry man but like she shoulda killed you there

[sharp ledge]

let’s deal with the real issues before dealing with monomas skycamping tbh

[amber gazelle]

any decent ranged should’ve

Skycamping is bad but I don’t think Monoma is a problem doing it rn

[subtle bramble]

true, but i think the alpha's hitting her was messing with her idk

[amber gazelle]

AAM and Nagant can do it well

[spring nimbus]

This, like its a nonissue atm

[hallow yarrow]

Or, hear me out here, do it all in one fell swoop. Like that season 9 patch where every problematic skill set got nerfed.
That was a good season.

[amber gazelle]

In my lobbies if I spam endeavour gammas as Momoma I’m getting a 350 nagant bullet to the face

or 2 drones and 3 fire alphas

[subtle bramble]

I mean in the grand scheme of things this being capable sets the precedent for other characters to skycamp then there will be no incentive to play grounded characters unless they can directly counter them

[sharp ledge]

yea those 2 gotta go

[amber gazelle]

or maybe rapid all might will come suplex me

[hallow yarrow]

We shouldn't normalize skycamping at all of any kind. It doesn't matter if you're from this season or from 10 ago, it's not healthy when a character guarantees themselves a win

[spring nimbus]

Yeah, I think there is a discrepancy in lobbies here. Like, sky camping gets shutdown so hard. Like if youre on switch Mil i can see why itd be much more annoying to deal with

[sharp ledge]

skycamping doesn’t guarantee wins

[hallow yarrow]

It does when not everyone picked Nagant lol

Or Armoured All Might

[subtle bramble]

true

[amber gazelle]

Tbh even rapid Deku, yellow Deku, rapid Bakugo, strike Shoto should be able to shoot them out the air

Nejire can get 9 easy rings off on you if you used assault endy gamma even

[sharp ledge]

those 2 are in a league of their own

[amber gazelle]

The only sky camping I really disliked from Momoma is when he had OFA Deku’s gamma

Cause it made him so fast and he could do 3 360s in 2 seconds making you unable to hit him

[sharp ledge]

back when he was actually oppressive

[amber gazelle]

I played against a monoma using it as nejire

I could literally not hit anything on him

So glad that’s gone

[sharp ledge]

the devs have real issues with that for some reason

[amber gazelle]

u can’t tell me u wanted to keep it

is so unfair to play against bro

[sharp ledge]

nah like with fixing it cuz it’s still in game for some stupid reason

trucks and gearshift was so cringe never make that a thing again

[sharp ledge]

tbh i don’t think he needs a cd reset nerf he’s in a pretty balanced state atm

[spring nimbus]

Maaaan ts was so strong it was laughable

throw a yellow endy beta in there and then that is a free win lmaoo

[sharp ledge]

alongside assault endy beta it was so cringe to fight 😭

[hallow yarrow]

That's just something I can never agree on I'm sorry. Have 100% damage and 300 HP but literally never this.

[subtle bramble]

im genuinely surprised it's in the game tbh

cd resetting is like a game breaking mechanic in video games generally speaking

[spring nimbus]

Well this game isn’t really comparable to any other game in a balancing department lol

[subtle bramble]

lmao

[hallow yarrow]

When everyone else has sets designed around how often you can use them in order for them to be balanced.
And then you get those jabrony's doing their own thing, it's not fun to deal with.

[spring nimbus]

Red kiri still has not received a meaningful nerf in god knows how long

[amber gazelle]

@sharp ledge true

[hallow yarrow]

Yeah Red Kiri should get a nerf I mentioned that a few weeks ago I think

He's so stupidly strong

[subtle bramble]

how (im kinda new)

[spring nimbus]

Bro doesn’t know the horrors of red kiri

He can just do everything

[subtle bramble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/848479969193492482/1134653547837923348/giphy.gif

[spring nimbus]

He has the damage, mobility, survivability, utility, legit everything.

He has no weakness and that’s the issue

[hallow yarrow]

His shield is unbreakable so he can use it to stall out people, he can hit people that are behind him with it too since the hitbox is wonky, a stupid mobility bug that makes him fly, and his Gammas will tear you apart if you dare to recover in the air lol.

[amber gazelle]

His ranged isn’t that great but yeah he can just use his beta to block which doesn’t work like assault kendo’s for some reason

[subtle bramble]

hm

i never knew it was unbreakable wow

[amber gazelle]

is on a timer instead of a defined amount of things it can block

[subtle bramble]

hm looking at his kit on the wiki i can see why he can be strong

or how he is strong

and the alpha gives movemnt too that's crazy

[frigid sleet]

its not the alpha thats his main movement

[spring nimbus]

I had an idea to make his base shield easily breakable and only have it unbreakable if he has his SA activated, similar to how tech denki alpha gets faster with his SA. Makes his beta more dynamic, gives it more counter play, and fits thematically.

[amber gazelle]

Alpha drains pretty fast but reading his kit doesn’t really make you realise why he’s strong

He lives on animation cancelling alone

[subtle bramble]

o

[amber gazelle]

moves into other movies

like an alpha into a beta into a gamma

[subtle bramble]

He looks like a jack of all trades on paper

I mean when i go against one I just run away from the shield and out range him

im expert 3 so not ace yet so of course im not as experienced as yall

[amber gazelle]

I mean being up close to him is a bad idea so yeah that works

But he can just keep blocking

Tech Mirio and Aizawa cook him handedly at least

[frigid sleet]

im surprised tech mirio has been allowed to live this long

[amber gazelle]

Cause barely anyone using him

[subtle bramble]

never seen one fr

[amber gazelle]

Cause most can’t hit consecutive alphas

but when you do

you can hit up to like 350 dmg with alphas before they get knocked

[subtle bramble]

wth

[spring nimbus]

And the only actual fun part of his kit the counter is bad lmao

[frigid sleet]

you literally dont even have to use alphas you can just click gamma with instant reload

[amber gazelle]

Nah

[frigid sleet]

counter is not bad

wtf

it does 230

lvl 9

[amber gazelle]

Some characters entire skill sets are all easy slow startup moves

Assault Ochaco and Strike Kiri

you could win fights alone with gamma

[frigid sleet]

and it recharges instantly

if you hit

[amber gazelle]

I got an example actually 1 min

[spring nimbus]

Most Tech Mirio’s won’t even use it, just straight up hold it because everyone tries to bait it out cuz it’s a free punish

[frigid sleet]

they made yellow afo so trash compared to everything else they're releasing

[spring nimbus]

Yeah that sucks ngl, wanted to play him a lot more but he’s just alright to me

[frigid sleet]

you literally cannot do anything to people in air

your alpha is so small and it hits for like 70

at lvl 9

without the blast

and you get melted most of the time when you click gamma, and your beta decides when it has to do 160 or 60 damage

[amber gazelle]

I play Yafo a decent bit

Depends on the character

[frigid sleet]

he's fun but you're cooked against certain characters

[amber gazelle]

Cause you can disable aam’s flight

[frigid sleet]

they are usually so high up i cant do anything

[amber gazelle]

I usually max beta first then alpha

but yeah if they’re high up I just spam alpha at them and they get overwhelmed a bit

[frigid sleet]

nahh why beta, im not trusting rng

[amber gazelle]

big AOE knock

[frigid sleet]

my alpha build does 123 with the blast

[amber gazelle]

the RNG isn’t the worst

and it’s less RNG the more you level up ofc

[frigid sleet]

it actually hits if they're slightly above ground

hits everything

and does 60 when they're on ground

[spring nimbus]

Ok maybe bad wasn’t the right choice of words😂 You’re just inclined to not use it to bait them so you can get even more free alphas. But yeah some characters do give counters away for free so it can kinda be matchup dependent.

[sharp ledge]

this was actually fun but stupidly unbalanced😭

[subtle bramble]

LOOOL what is this

#1374669272047030353 message

This is the red kiri you guys are talking about?? 💀

just a moving hitbox oh no send it back

[tepid ore]

and nagant still remains op

[sharp ledge]

turns out it was just a training mode bug these devs suck

[sharp ledge]

r we fr ?

50 can’t be this bad😭

the skill issue shows

@tall bane abysmal take btw

[tall bane]

the skill issue shows if you thought he wan unplayable before bro i played him before his buff

[sharp ledge]

he wasn’t unplayable he was just mid

still is but he’s atleast low A tier now

[tall bane]

im just tired of playing tag for 20 minutes at the end of a ranked match because he just sky camps the entire time and 90% of the time its not even a skilled Monoma player doing this (no kills sub 1k dmg) for a character with that much potential movement the 250 was justified

dont even have issues fighting him and rarely ever have

i only have an issue with the people that play him incorrectly

[sharp ledge]

yea i agree with this but the hp buff was fine tbh

[tall bane]

if youre winning as monoma and genuinely just combining good skills and doing good combos who cares congrats im clearly only talking about sky camping

ive lost count of how many rounds ive spent pre hp nerf and now post hp buff since he has the 300 back just standing in one spot watching a monoma fly in the sky for 10 minutes as the last other player in ranked as they miss all their shots but just keep flying around

i dont think he's broken im just annoyed

[tall bane]

and i want consequence for players that do this just to not even win and waste everyones time

he has the movement of a rapid with his kit anyways and we have enough characters with 300-400 hp having rapid movement for some reason already i already think characters like strike bakugo, tamaki, and tech all might should at the very least have 300 for their movement (the 350 is too much and the 400 is just laughable), and not to mention rapid uraraka still has 300 its always been my opinion that increased air movement should = reduced health regardless of character type

[pliant abyss]

i think its bugged

if i recall correctly, ur SUPPOSED to be invicible flat out for at least a second or 2 so any second-third hit of something should NOT be hitting but its flat out getting ignored in these instances

unless it was in previous patches and i just missed it

[sharp ledge]

yea it’s a training mode bug atm

all of this just to do a pitiful guardbreak is sad

[strong belfry]

https://medal.tv/fr/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/lMrGUjsEZovzaSl01?invite=cr-MSxjTHosMjcwMzk5MTQw

[quartz fractal]

Man I’m really feeling it, I was abusing that move HARD

I hope it's just bugged and not the final decision

I used to go loot between enemies during those short iframe periods

[spring nimbus]

Tech might gets this damage with like 3 alphas 😭

[sharp ledge]

it ain’t fair 💔

[dim wraith]

I’ll take 200hp monoma if I can have the dmg back😭

[gentle fiber]

lol this is crazy i was reading ur convo was that kid above he complains about the HP BUFF but he is sad that monoma;s camping sky ? like in what way that is relevant ?

[sharp ledge]

idk tbh people just find any reason to complain about a completely fine character but not aam and nagant it’s funny😭

[gentle fiber]

😭

[sharp ledge]

the logic ain’t logicing 💔

[tawdry minnow]

Because they fan girl those characters

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hazbin-hotel-hazbin-alastor-hazbin-hotel-alastor-alastor-chair-gif-16632723431540936917

Monoma mains dont let the nerfs get you down

https://tenor.com/view/alastor-don't-you-forget-you-ain't-won-yet-gif-9926462464931500754

Skillset monoma is on the horizon

[glass yoke]

Training bug

[quartz fractal]

Why is it called training bug?

[glass yoke]

It’s a bug that only happens in training mode

[glass yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-vox-angry-gif-16885700460374715714

[quartz fractal]

It happens in real games tho

[glass yoke]

You’re sure?

Also do you have any video evidence?

[quartz fractal]

I didn't clip sadly but I’ll be sure to do so next time it happens
Like one nagant hit me with a beta and I took the damage regardless

[glass yoke]

Hmmm

I sees

[dim wraith]

It’s like I want to be done with monoma but I don’t have fun playing with anybody else since his release 😭😭

[sharp ledge]

seems fair let’s complain about monomas 50 hp buff instead

body shot btw

[tawdry minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-alastor-salutations-hello-gif-15808772545770135238

[tawdry minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/let's-begin-alastor-hazbin-hotel-let's-get-this-show-on-the-road-amazon-studios-gif-3330684004785646671

[spring nimbus]

It does not

Some moves just go through his gamma, like nagant alpha (idk about beta), tech shiggy alpha, red shiggy gamma, and others

[quartz fractal]

Interesting, So I think my experience was some placebo something when I heard he got gamma nerf 😅

[frigid sleet]

It happens in matches too

It seems the gamma invincibility time has been lowered

[frigid sleet]

I was spectating my friend play monoma and he got hit with yellow endeavor gamma, it didn't hit him for like 1 second and then it did like half his hp

[spring nimbus]

Clip? Cuz I played for a good 5-6 hours yesterday with monoma and i didn't notice a difference with his gamma

[frigid sleet]

dont have a clip but they might've shadownerfed the invincibility time

[spring nimbus]

Just for future reference, the gamma bug is tied to the training bots(I’m not sure about the bots in game). As you can see, the actual endy hits me with his gamma and it works fine. But when the bot endy hits me, I have no i-frames.

[quartz fractal]

Interesting, so it was just a training bug all along, ty for the confirmation!

[spring nimbus]

What are you attempting to show here bluc 😭

monoma cant steal another monomas quirks, so when he gets hit with gamma, instead of it going on cooldown, it just pauses at the percent you are at, allowing you to spam it

Thats why monoma 1v1 are ahh

just gamma spam

[tiny hedge]

Omfg you and Tenrup are dumb for Monoma players

[spring nimbus]

what are you trying to show then

[sharp ledge]

stripes bouta be a peak copy

[spring nimbus]

I can definitely see her being a top tier copy

I wonder if she’ll be a more utility based character, we haven’t really had one in a while

[amber gazelle]

Any new character is a peak copy

[sharp ledge]

yea im hoping they don’t tie stars best ability to her special like nagant not being able to use snipe shot is annoying

[sharp ledge]

im hoping she self buffs herself with random effects

[spring nimbus]

That’s exactly what there going to do I’m already knowing😂

[sharp ledge]

ur bets still going strong and alls justice is about to drop 😭

[pliant abyss]

I can see star and stripes being a utility based support character simply cause of how her quirk works

she could give allies random buffs when near

but she'd probably also be a close-ranged fighter

[sharp ledge]

if she does she might be the best copy for monoma since we might be able to get our dmg back

[hardy needle]

I need help

[strong belfry]

why have critical permeation if you're going to waste it by spamming moves

[spring nimbus]

For the first clip, you don’t have good quirks. You’re essentially trying to mirror the kendo when she has the level advantage, hp advantage, etc. Your red kiri was right there, so you should’ve copied him then tried to fight and or run away. But your levels were really bad so you might’ve been cooked regardless with how level reliant monoma is now.
For the second one, you air recovered which made it an easy hit for her. You also wasted your crit perm. Use it to either pop a shield or reposition. You also potentially could’ve swapped back to base kit and used your gamma to tank her claps, making it easier to escape afterwards.

[glass yoke]

@spring nimbus Could I Mayhaps request some Monoma clips?

For no reason at all

Any may I use them in a video of mine if I give you proper credit?

Oh great No. 1 Monoma

[spring nimbus]

Sure, I’ll send a bit later

[quartz fractal]

Yellow kendo does insane damage at close range, If I were you I would've flown away and kept spamming alpha or just activate gamma and wait for her to waste an attack and double beta her (base kit)

[subtle bramble]

you're running in and playing monoma as an assault when he should be played like a hit in run character

I think you need to play monoma without any tunings for a while so you can have an idea of his strengths and weaknesses

[sharp ledge]

tyrant you gotta make a tuning guide cuz what’s this😭

[subtle bramble]

an attempt to circumvent the special nerf

[sharp ledge]

yea who’s gonna tell bro 💔

[subtle bramble]

btw what do yall think is a good color for that costume?

[sharp ledge]

for looks wise or tuning wise ?

[subtle bramble]

Tuning wise

[sharp ledge]

tbh I haven’t checked the tuning on that outfit but I’d go for divine for sure

idrk the outfits slots

[subtle bramble]

Im thinking heat or combat, for tech slot im considering hyper regeneration but ifk if it's good i dont have the data for it

[ember dew]

Since we got Monoma's Fantasy Outfit, which one is good for Tuning ? Been considering tuning either the heated one or combat

[subtle bramble]

i think combat would only be good if you’re running hyper regeneration to get it to lvl 11

[sharp ledge]

he’s the most fun character and im standing on that

this too

[sharp ledge]

still no trailer these devs aren’t cooking 😭

[amber gazelle]

definitely a trailer tomorrow no?

they've never done it the day before iirc?

cause the new characters skill details are always shown as clips the day before

and they've never conflicted with that

anyway we're due for a new map also so maybe we get that as well

[sharp ledge]

are you thinking of maining star when she drops

[amber gazelle]

idk I main every new character for a bit when they come out lmao

she's not really one of my favs but if shes really fun

then maybe

theory is she's going to be support because every new character so far of the s7/s8 stuff has been a different role type

[sharp ledge]

i don’t see her being balanced in the slightest sadly

[amber gazelle]

that is usually the case

[sharp ledge]

doing pretty much the same amount of dmg as nagants body shot is insane

they’ve gotta give some dmg back in return for a gamma nerf or sum

[sharp ledge]

another character who’s best skill is most likely locked behind his special

@spring nimbus what’s ur thoughts on toko

[spring nimbus]

Just based of what we seen everything seems kinda ehh

but that support nejire tho...

if her beta self heals, imagine that with tech shig gamma

you can run double shield now lol

red kiri/yellow kendo beta and tokoyami gamma

[sharp ledge]

yea tbh it looks underwhelming compared to everything else we’ve gotten but im glad we needed a break from game breaking characters every season

[sharp ledge]

red kiri still hasn’t been touched btw😭

not even mentioned

[spring nimbus]

Hopefully it plays better then it looks, just have to wait and see

[kindred swallow]

I cant wait to finally be able to play support monoma these skills are great guys

Nejires will allow for monoma to unlock a whole new playstyle with healing

[spring nimbus]

Fr, hype for the nejire ngl

[sharp ledge]

hopefully the skill nejire used on tamaki and mirio is a self buff too

[kindred swallow]

Just found out

[sharp ledge]

it might bring monomas dmg back

[kindred swallow]

That they nerfed monoma healing

It is now 80%

[sharp ledge]

how so ?

[kindred swallow]

This guy in endy server is looking in files saying things like overhaul has a gun and allat idk tho take it with a grain of salt

[sharp ledge]

is gp pot speed in gamma slower ?

[kindred swallow]

U mean if the protection time wears off quicker lemme ask?

They said no gamma nerf

[kindred swallow]

They said it got edited but they put a blocker from datamining

So something about his gamma got changed

[sharp ledge]

hopefully it isn’t a gamma nerf

because if it is it’ll drop him back to B

[kindred swallow]

Fr

[tawdry minnow]

Alpha doesn’t do alot of dmg, but works if your copied alpha is a good skill

[sharp ledge]

it’s too rng to be viable ur better off running anything else

[tawdry minnow]

We eating good chat

New skillsets

And tokoyami skills to eat

And add into our roaster of copied quirks

[amber gazelle]

Tokoyami does very mid damage

now imagine -20%

[tawdry minnow]

Yea but if theres a will theres a way

[amber gazelle]

only his gamma is worth copying

[tawdry minnow]

What dat do?

[amber gazelle]

It’s his shield

[tawdry minnow]

Oh

I pass on shields

I prefer my gamma monoma shield

[amber gazelle]

Mm this one is pretty good though

[tawdry minnow]

Naw

Absolute defense gamma monoma

[amber gazelle]

also you can use both of those

[tawdry minnow]

Mhm

I still prefer a mobility gamma or tech shigi gamma

Than any shield

[amber gazelle]

tech shiggy gamma aint doing much for you

[sharp ledge]

yea about that he’s buns

plus 20% less dmg

[tawdry minnow]

real

i aint rolling

easiest skip in my life

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-eye-oshi-no-ko-gif-27713661

[sharp ledge]

i spent 400 tickets for shiggys fit im saving the rest icl

[sharp ledge]

he’s bad but i might still pull

cuz tokoyami is cool

[gentle fiber]

buff season 20 trust

[sharp ledge]

im too broke to pull for him sadly

ill only have 650 tickets once i finish license and stuff

[gentle fiber]

😭

atp saving is better

[sharp ledge]

yep

i was expecting star not toko😭

[gentle fiber]

fr

all dem characters this season is surprise for me

[sharp ledge]

especially nejire and overhaul

my goat is better than toko at using his own quirk 🥹

[gentle fiber]

lmao

monoma aura is crazy 🔥

[sharp ledge]

nagant mains crying because they can’t quick scope for 250+ easy dmg🫩

[amber gazelle]

@sharp ledge this u in my game rn

[sleek rose]

welp I saw crit perm got gutted

[amber gazelle]

if you're talking about the cd increase that was a while ago

[sleek rose]

nah apparently it deactivates as soon as you use a recovery item

haven't tested it for myself yet though

[amber gazelle]

huh so thats why

I had it go off earlier

[sleek rose]

checking rn

nah it looks like it still works

maybe it's buggy since the patch or something

[sharp ledge]

were you the cracked nagant

[amber gazelle]

I was the yafo

on your team

and if it was you then that nagant wasnt cracked ngl

got bailed out by her froppy twice

[sharp ledge]

reinforced frog is hella cringe icel

[amber gazelle]

im actually making a froppy build with that and qfr

anyway was a fun game together

[sharp ledge]

don’t run that 😭

[tawdry minnow]

mhm

[amber gazelle]

kurogiri kinda falling off nowadays so I need a new insta rez character

but nejire might support my support cravings

[sharp ledge]

did the beta nerf really affect him that much or is it just power creep

[sharp ledge]

i might gamble for toko without pity

he’s in my top 5

[amber gazelle]

both

hes suck against any aerial/flying character that can go at high speeds

[sharp ledge]

that’s pretty much every new release nowadays

[queen reef]

if you're a Monoma main, do NOT take tokoyami's powers

[sharp ledge]

we’ve been known this his kit already sucks dmg wise with high dp his gamma is the only move worth going for

[amber gazelle]

yeah

tldr invest in kurogiri quirkset today

[tawdry minnow]

not worth it

[amber gazelle]

yeah

[sharp ledge]

ykw im actually gonna cuz I’ve been wanting to save up for an outfit of his too

[sleek rose]

Divine protection on monoma is actually elite

[sharp ledge]

yep it’s pretty much a must

[kindred swallow]

Electrification and space hop

[sharp ledge]

never tried elec on him ik it makes double beta easier

[tawdry minnow]

I would do elec, but space hop is just over kill on him

If quirk factor release is possible, then i would just use that in place of space hop

[kindred swallow]

I hit ALL my alpha shots so I use that for better survivability

[tawdry minnow]

subjective

to be fair

https://tenor.com/view/steven-universe-lapis-lazuli-thumbs-up-approve-good-gif-7334165

[sharp ledge]

@spring nimbus yo tyrant do u check dms?

[silver thorn]

What's the best way to play our copy master

[spring nimbus]

I do

[silver thorn]

What's a good tuning for the clown outfit

[sharp ledge]

clowns best outfit is the divine protection and hp sucker imo

[silver thorn]

I got the first clown one

[sharp ledge]

That outfits tuning is kinda mid on him try get the one that can run divine and hp sucker

[silver thorn]

Bet

I'm charging my switch rn

But I'll most definitely look into it

[silver thorn]

What's the level up path

[sharp ledge]

depends on ur teammates

[silver thorn]

I been playing ranked

So I'll either get rapid bakugo/ deku, birdman ,nagant or toga (characters i hate)

[uneven dune]

guys is monoma's high speed replen + critical perm tuning still op

[uneven dune]

@sharp ledge

[sharp ledge]

it’s still good but crit perms bugged rn

[uneven dune]

wdym bugged

[sharp ledge]

the iframes bug out sometimes

[uneven dune]

bruh

[sharp ledge]

yea it’s sad

[silver thorn]

Ngl some of the other monoma players I be seeing in rank make us look bad cause why is you tryna copy my quirks if we the same character

They will be using somebody else quirks then when they ran into me they switched them off then attack me

[hardy moat]

my question is why don't they allow him to copy speical actions

he is able to copy aizawa quirk in the manga and anime

[silver thorn]

It works different in the show then in the game

It would be fair if aizawa only gimmick in the game is to stop people from using their quirks

He can't copy special actions but can copy the quirks you use in the game

[hardy moat]

they need to make it so when you copy aizawa you can canel out other people quirk but its a one time use before you have to copy aizawa again as moana can't copy equipnent only the quirk

[silver thorn]

You must not be playing the same game as me

[hardy moat]

moana can copy the scarf not the actual qurik fuction of aizawa

[silver thorn]

Yes in the game

[sharp ledge]

@amber gazelle yo do u check dms i wanted ur thoughts on sum

[amber gazelle]

yes

[tawdry minnow]

fr

and armored all might's armor too

honesty, the devs shhould make exceptions for some quirks of characters and how it is copied by monoma like aizawa's

[amber gazelle]

When this game keeps getting a bigger and bigger roster exceptions only make it more unnecessarily complicated

Besides they can just give him Aizawa’s sa for one of his new abilities in his eventual quirk set

[sleek rose]

Monoma’s quirkset will be nuts as long as there’s one movement ability in there

Fighting with his normal kit rn is so boring

[silver thorn]

That's true

[tawdry minnow]

the meta standard goes higher and higher. its already a standard a mobility skill is a meta must

so i dont doubt that

[sharp ledge]

his base kit is actually pretty good besides his alpha

double beta guardbreaks and gamma well you know gamma

[amber gazelle]

gamma kind overrated ngl

I've never had that big of a problem with people spamming it

cause you have to cd refresh quickly to use it again nd in that interval

you can be damaged

and also instantly shuts off when you use any other ability ofc

[sharp ledge]

it’s kinda match up dependant since multi hit moves like nagant beta counter it

[tawdry minnow]

Alpha is good if you add up all the damage you get for landing that easy alpha

[tawdry minnow]

I wish they removed that one caviat to the gamma

[tawdry minnow]

Monoma mains rejoice

We can be healers after nejirei skillset drops

Support monoma will be possible

[strong belfry]

The healing part is also effected by his 80% nerf but I think that it’ll still be usable

[sharp ledge]

20% of 80 gp is 16 so ur gonna be giving 64 gp

[spring nimbus]

Resetting Support nejire gamma for over shield is kinda ridiculous ngl

Got to try it in a scrim and it got pressure off my team cuz nobody wanted to commit since they couldn’t gaurdbreak them

[tawdry minnow]

Doesn't really matter if you compensate it with rapid cool down resets

[tawdry minnow]

Indeed