Hitoshi Shinso

[violet kernel]

use it and then your shinso gameplay will never feel the same without it

[dusty storm]

Tracksuit
Or the Cyberhero with yellow slot

[elder stone]

tried it out and you just instantly lose the shinso 1v1 with it lol

you're just a sitting duck in the air

like no mobility

[fallow venture]

Can we make it so you immediately leave the brainwashed state once you're knocked back?

[hollow tulip]

no lol

[humble gazelle]

How good is space hop on shinso?

And how does shinso alphas work with alpha tunes? I think imma make the ua tracksuit build

[violet kernel]

really good

[violet kernel]

wdym?

if you are gonna tune that outfit you should use space hop/willpower or iron fist

[humble gazelle]

Like is the alpha damage applied to the slam?

[violet kernel]

his alpha damage is pretty good so i focus on using gp attack power plus\

and hp attack power plus

as well as more betsa dmg

[violet kernel]

Am i the only one who feels like people use shinso as a punching bag?

like we have monoma in the air with god knows what and assault endeavor trapping you strike kendo and kiri with rapid mobility yet people say shinso needs the most nerfs

[signal geode]

I'm using tamaki as a punching bag lol

[foggy sentinel]

It happened with twice too

And knowing the devs they’ll kill him the same way

[violet kernel]

exactly

when they kill the character the community is just gonna find smth else to hate on, this community can never be happy

[foggy sentinel]

It’ll be awful

Two fun combo characters shot dead in the streets

[violet kernel]

they hate on good characters when they not using good characters

if im comparing shinso to red kiri shinso is 10x harder

all kiri players do is hold the UNBREAKABLE shield

[foggy sentinel]

I feel theyre about the same tbh

[violet kernel]

and then shoot you

like when it comes to animation cancelling

kiri is quite complex yes

[foggy sentinel]

One needs more tech and combo knowledge while one needs proper positioning and recognizing when you can hit some combos

[violet kernel]

yea exactly

i just think that using shinso as forfront of making him unplayable isnt fair

[foggy sentinel]

They’re about equal in strength and in the skill department

[violet kernel]

liike sure reduce the beta dmg

[foggy sentinel]

Also this is probably just me but I find shinso to not really be an issue

[foggy sentinel]

I just want beta damage lowered and alpha damage lowered but it gets higher the higher you slam from

[violet kernel]

i feel like if you avoid the stun or when he stuns you your teamates counter him you;re fine

the people who struggle with against him dont play with their team in trios that's why they struggle against him cuz he's a character made for 1v1

it's like queing into a solo battle and wondering why you get slammed by aizawa

[foggy sentinel]

I don’t struggle with him against trios

Just hit and run

Twice experience taught me that

[violet kernel]

characters like aizawa and shinso are better suited for 1v1 scenrios

[violet kernel]

with space hop its pretty accomplishable

just catch them off gaurd with betas

[foggy sentinel]

I go revenge rapid or I go in raw

No asschaco for space hop

[violet kernel]

try to save up data

it really suits him

[foggy sentinel]

Ik

[violet kernel]

also melee perks

[foggy sentinel]

I’m just doing fine with my embrittle rn

[violet kernel]

yea that's also as good

[foggy sentinel]

I’m doing perfectly fine with my builds rn

I just want willpower to be fixed so I can run that over kota finder again

[violet kernel]

can i see the builds you have rn?

[violet kernel]

i've heard its buggy

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah just give me a minute

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah the timer doesn’t show and I’ve noticed that you can die with it more often now

I have a good example here

He gets iframes but he dies to the second shot anyway

[violet kernel]

ahh

[foggy sentinel]

Dying through willpower has been more common from my experience

[violet kernel]

i have a few willpower builds but i rarely use them

[foggy sentinel]

I like it

[violet kernel]

the idea is good but it needs a fix

[dusty storm]

I saw a space hop + new mirio Special tuning and since then I lost all hope in humanity

[dusty storm]

Monoma + rapid ochako exist but somehow shinso is the issue cuz he two hit you and guard broken
Mf

RAPID OCHAKO KILLS YOU THE SECOND SHE LANDS A HIT

[violet kernel]

i have that on rn lol

[hollow jewel]

Space hop is good on anyone in my opinion

[foggy sentinel]

Anyone that can make good use of the utility

Some like overhaul are not good space hoppers

[signal geode]

Thank you

[foggy sentinel]

He likes the movement boost but it doesn’t compliment his kit well and there are better options

[signal geode]

that's how I feel about space hop on dabi

it's good enough for what it is but hinders him more than helps

[crude marsh]

What are the best combos on shinso ? I keep trying to find new combos to use but everything fails lol

[signal geode]

alpha into beta and beta into alpha are the main combos fr

[foggy sentinel]

Theyre not the best combos but I think the melee combos are fun and are pretty reliable

[violet kernel]

they so fun to do lol

[crude marsh]

I see, thanks, are the melee combos just melee melee melee air melee gamma beta and air melee melee beta ?

[violet kernel]

be creative with em

it's a,l stun

[half aspen]

I don’t know how to confirm the gamma in the alpha + air melee + gamma + beta combo

On GP at least

Any tips?

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah that’s the problem

It’s on gp

Unless there’s a setup which works on gp that I’m unaware of you’re not getting it without some form of lag

[half aspen]

For some reason, I’m only sometimes able to land it on GP

[foggy sentinel]

Same but only a few times

[violet kernel]

it's more consistent on hp

[half aspen]

How do you make it more consistent on gp?

[violet kernel]

im not sure abt how to make it more consistent on gp all i know is that im only able to hit it after a gaurdbreak

so i would recommend doing alpha into alpha first

then catching their wakeup with another alpha

but then do the air melee combo

it should work then

also anyone wanna play unranked?

[steel summit]

Oh a scale of 1 to 10, how is Spacehop on Shinso

I've seen people use it, but never encountered them

[fallow venture]

12

[dusty storm]

100

[violet kernel]

pray you never do

you cant touch him with it he gets free beta

[dusty storm]

Especially if you’re a compress

He won’t even use space hop there

[shut tree]

I hate all of you btw

[shut tree]

I hate you too

[dusty storm]

Saying this when there’s at least just as worse or worse than shinso existing is crazy

[shut tree]

I hate shinso more than monoma

[dusty storm]

What will you do if you were facing a monoma with shinso alpha

[shut tree]

He doesn't have his stupid stuns

[dusty storm]

Oh so you’re fine taking his alpha into rapid allmight gamma

[shut tree]

Whatever you say will not persuade me from not hating shinso

[dusty storm]

All imma say is please spread that hatred into strike kirishima too

🚶🚶

[violet kernel]

they hate cuz they aint us

[dense cobalt]

13

[dense cobalt]

Bro almost died while wanting to style on em😭

[hollow tulip]

lol was a taaadd close

[dense cobalt]

Yh not bad

[violet kernel]

im calling it rn they are about to nerf the life out of this man

sad times

[foggy sentinel]

-1 alpha damage watch

[lofty cipher]

Alpha immediately hard knocks 🥀

[dusty storm]

Nice nerfs

[warm flint]

The show goes on

[hollow tulip]

another PUR with no mask lol

could be worst i guess

could be overhaul with 1 pur lol

yall find tuning ya like for new outfit?

im liking tht yellow/purple tuning one more than the cyber hero one

for spiraling leap and space hop

[warm flint]

I’ve been stuck on space hop /kota tuning

Dunno if I could play without space hop now

[dense cobalt]

Exactly
For a shinso ninja fit why doesn't he hv a mask😭

[hollow tulip]

im liking manifest on tht build

oh we actually have a bakugo p/u build now

so u can do double bakugo tuning on the standard ninja costume

[hollow tulip]

not like the mask is critical part of him using his actually quirk lol

[violet kernel]

WE SURVIVED

w balance changes

rapid bakugo has insane movement now

[hollow moth]

Shinso got buffed 😭😭

How has he got the upper hand out of this patch

[foggy sentinel]

I assume it’s the aerial change

[hollow moth]

Yup

[foggy sentinel]

And he can move better after beta

[hollow moth]

Like why

[foggy sentinel]

Everyone got that change

It’s universal

[hollow moth]

Whyyy

For the air based characters yes

But it doesn’t affect the ground based characters

They’re suffering even more now

[foggy sentinel]

It does

They just don’t make good use of it because they don’t have an ability that makes them airborne

[hollow moth]

Exactly

[foggy sentinel]

So they still get affected

[hollow moth]

Yh but barely

[foggy sentinel]

Yes but they still got buffed like everyone else

[hollow moth]

I guess

But they are very much out of the meta 😭

[foggy sentinel]

I’ll still stick on overhaul

It’ll just be like hawks all over again

[hollow moth]

I’ll send my blessings when YAFO releases

[foggy sentinel]

I’m gonna enjoy his tune

His sa not so much though

[hollow moth]

His sa directly counters overhaul

[foggy sentinel]

Fr

I’ll still manage though

[hollow moth]

Atleast you guys can heal now in the air

[foggy sentinel]

I think

[foggy sentinel]

Nah we just activate it on the ground now

We can’t heal mid air but we don’t have to hold it grounded to heal now

[hollow moth]

Ohh

[foggy sentinel]

It’s a great change tbh

I like it

Along with the alpha fix

[warm flint]

ill have to check that out thhanks

[warm flint]

let me know what you all think of the new costume

[hollow tulip]

I think it just gives more variety

I think tht p/y ST is better than the cyber hero ver

And he has a plus ultra farm build finally (r/b)

Think they need to give more support characters lol

Cuz limits some of the tunes for Shinso imo

Like the best green regular tuning are both villains (kurogiri and overhaul) and overhaul is useless for us lol

Young AFO might give us some more options since he’s a villain just depends on role

[dusty storm]

I know they didn’t give a yellow and blue slot cuz of that Deku tuning

[warm flint]

Thanks goats

[waxen token]

He’s assault

How did you look at that aoe char and think he would be even slightly support 😭

Have yall tried the deku tuning on shinso yet

[hollow tulip]

I never said he was support?

I was just speaking in general having another villain give us more options

If he does end up assault that’s one less time I have to put shiggy there in a yellow villain slot lol

[waxen token]

He is assault it’s confirmed im p sure

Since he’s aoe like endeavor it’s expected

[hollow tulip]

Confirmed by byking or leaks? || cuz they don’t want u talking about leaks in here bud ||

[waxen token]

Idk I just seen it

Man he has to be assault there not release two techs

[violet kernel]

he's assault

that was pretty obv from the trailer

[hybrid vapor]

Ayo what Quirk Skill should I max out as Shinso

I recently unlocked him (and OFA Deku) and I’ve been pretty good at Shinso…

[waxen token]

Beta then alpha

[hybrid vapor]

Ah okay I figured

Just wanted to be sure

[dusty storm]

Wth

[warm flint]

Yeah my alphas have been porting like that to

[rain locust]

I finally pulled this god forsaken character 🥹

[waxen token]

Welcome to the aura farmer of mhur

https://tenor.com/view/shinso-hitoshi-shinsou-shinso-hitoshi-shinsou-hitoshi-gif-18294959163945175826

[dawn bobcat]

Same it’s Shinso SZN 😭😭

[dawn bobcat]

All day for some reason, also been glitching everytime I alpha in storm. It just pulls them down no damage

[violet kernel]

bro today i used my alpha and it like bounced them all over

[half aspen]

Best costume tuning?

I have them all now

[dry token]

would crit perm be good on shinso or just a waste

im trying to choose between fixer, electrification, or crit perm (i have the shinobu heat outfit) or if ya have other tech special recommendations

[dense cobalt]

HSR would be better than em
Fixer and s.leap could also work

Electrification Def not

[dry token]

why hsr

[dense cobalt]

Just to get back into fights faster
But I personally run space hop n will power

[smoky tendon]

with few exceptions I don't see why crit perm would ever be bad on any character. it's level 11 purple right?

[dry token]

yea

[smoky tendon]

then if you like annoying people with crit perm it's likely optimal, I don't have too much experience using it myself but it can be mad annoying when they just heal in your face

[dry token]

im more worried about the use of it cuz shinso's getawway beta counts as attacking i think but these ofa dekus getting on my nerves with they infinite combos

and i dont want to accidentally cancel it by using my beta to get away

[smoky tendon]

yeah every move does cancel it. Ideally you keep track of when your guard is about to break so you're already ready to start a heal or space hop, assuming you'll pair it with that since you can space hop while keeping invincibility

[dry token]

but fixer is good raising my defense and attack power

[smoky tendon]

as far as fixer skins go I think that one is like okayish but not amazing, it kinda needs a better green slot to be released to make it worth it imo, it's not horrible though

[dry token]

thx for the input

[smoky tendon]

welcome 🩷

[dense cobalt]

🗣️ let's goo

[dry token]

has anyone tried acceleration on shinso and is it good

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah it’s good

[dense cobalt]

Good but changes nothing tbh
Except movement speed , not really worth it

[prime bison]

This character seems so easy to play

[dense cobalt]

Well kinda but you need game sense in piloting him since he's good in 1 on 1s and not teams

[dense cobalt]

Blud really thought he could 3rd party me💔

[dusty storm]

Watching a Ofa deku run towards you as a shinso player is the freest gift after rapid mirio beta missing

[dense cobalt]

Lmao
Real or red kendo holding beta

[forest oasis]

Fr they think theyre invincible

[dense cobalt]

What every ochako deserves 🚬

[hollow tulip]

best feeling lol

hate kendos lol

[dense cobalt]

Fr

[scarlet spire]

Why does this guy keep calling me and my teamates the N word whilst using his ahhh broken moves?

[half aspen]

Apparently

Japan thinks shinso is the no1 character in the game right now

Thoughts?

[dense cobalt]

Do they tho
Yellow deku is always on there hotspot

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah Japan thinks shinso is the best

[dense cobalt]

Welp didn't know lol
Ion see alotta jp shinsos

[hollow tulip]

out of curiosity has anyone thought to try the shinso build with accerlation and iron fist?

[hollow tulip]

lol is it just shinso or space hop shinso?

[dusty storm]

Not a crazy take imo

Also

Had this nice match of me eating more than half lobby lol

[dusty storm]

I see Jp players use either

Space hop + will power or
SH + critical permeation

[hollow tulip]

off top of your head do you know if its cyberhero or the ninja costume?

[dusty storm]

Cyberhero for critical permeation

But I think ninja also got same special slots

[dense cobalt]

Shinso with acceleration ain't allat , tbh you're better of with card dup

[dusty storm]

They got same but ninja got better slots

[hollow tulip]

gotcha i was curious if the sped up alpha slam would be worth it

[dusty storm]

I don’t think it’s worth building acceleration over a costume with space hop slot for shinso anywyas

[hollow tulip]

so im actually try to move away from space hop

feels lil too easy lol

i think its become an essential tune for him at this point lol

[dusty storm]

You’d have lot more air time

[dusty storm]

Ig cuz he has 3 beta ammo + reload nerf

[hollow tulip]

gotta remember too i was the main guy here on embrittlement before its nerf lol so i like the melee combos with shinso lol

[dusty storm]

I mainly use it defensively lol

[hollow tulip]

makes sense

its too good not to use

[dusty storm]

Ye

[hollow tulip]

i just wanna start exploring back up plans in case of a nerf ya know? lol

[dusty storm]

I don’t think they can nerf space hop

Unless decrease duration

[dense cobalt]

Space hop is way too good on shinso
Not only does it saves you from using up beta cd, it makes u avoid alotta shi way easily plus with willpower u can iframe and run away

[hollow tulip]

worst case they add a cooldown so we cant spam it

[hollow tulip]

100% agree with everything except willpower

[dusty storm]

Willpower is so inconsistent

I use PU crusher cuz of it LMAO

[dense cobalt]

It works when it works ig

[hollow tulip]

willpower has a very big weakness

[dusty storm]

So never cuz it never works when you want to

[hollow tulip]

1. creates bad habits

[dense cobalt]

Ion see em adding a cd on a movement based tuning
Sounds funny

[hollow tulip]

2. the todoroki family and yellow shiggy cause willpower a "false trigger"

[dense cobalt]

Kinda
That's why tamaki tuning is a good sub for it

[dusty storm]

It also does same agaisnt shinso alpha beta

It happened twice to me where the slam triggered the willpower but didn’t have iframes and got hit by beta

[hollow tulip]

so i was mainly talking the fire effects on your hp and the decay

so they cant kill u

but if u are on 1 hp

willpower will still activate

even tho u cant die from the status

[dusty storm]

You’re better off using pu crusher or Tamaki special tuning imo

Or Kota finder

[hollow tulip]

agreed

[dense cobalt]

True

I wished he's ninja fit had a mask lowkey

[dusty storm]

I wished his ninja fit had yellow and blue slot

[dense cobalt]

Too run what on blue

[dusty storm]

But no another yellow and purple

[dusty storm]

Wall runner
card dupe
Perception if you do a alpha air melee gamma combo
Acceleration
GP sucker

[dense cobalt]

Gp sucker is based
Perception is an interesting one

[hollow tulip]

perception would be good if u running with a crew

one tht likes to chase lol

like a blue mirio or rapid deku lol

i was hoping for a double yellow costume

[dusty storm]

Or tamaki gamma

[hollow tulip]

space hop and embrittlement

[dusty storm]

Oh this with YFO sounds nasty huh

[hollow tulip]

what i reallllllly want

is a yellow purple with alot damage/reload slots on the purple side for a space hop fixer build

[dusty storm]

I mean ninja outfit isn’t bad here tbh

Strike deku
Red dabi
Yellow endeavour
Kurogiri
Rapid mirio

[hollow tulip]

might mess with it

[dense cobalt]

I'd ragequit too ngl

[dusty storm]

If you beta someone and hit them from your behind you can gamma into beta lol

[foggy sentinel]

You can sneak in an air melee too

Beta air melee gamma beta

All without acceleration

[dusty storm]

Never seen that

[foggy sentinel]

It should be an hp combo

You should try it it’s fun

[smoky tendon]

old clip of mine that shows me being an okay-ish shinso ig, shows the combo after around 38s
https://outplayed.tv/media/jXngE8

it is my favorite combo to perform as him but it is hp exclusive. If acceleration could make it work vs gp too that would be a reason for me too consider the tuning fun wise though I agree space hop is just too good

[foggy sentinel]

From what I’ve played acceleration makes some combos possible on gp so I can test that tomorrow at some point but yeah acceleration is just busted

[dusty storm]

It’s why I was so disappointed when I saw new costume has no yellow and blue

[dusty storm]

Oh wow that’s just nasty

[foggy sentinel]

You get no blue but use default cyber hero it works quite well for me

[dusty storm]

The best variant of the ninja costume is same as cyberhero but with better normal slots

[smoky tendon]

or well I don't remember if I ever hit it or smth else vs gp but if it's possible it's beyond precise as is rn, I dunno if the normal gamma version works vs gp either I haven't played him in a while. All I know is that alpha air melee gamma beta is hard to perform at close ish range vs gp

for me that is

[foggy sentinel]

I haven’t checked out the ninja fit well so I can’t say anything

[smoky tendon]

I've been wanting to look into what combos become possible this way, some people already knew double blue card combos for their characters before like aizawa mains and I heard a froppy say that beta alpha beta apparently works with two speed cards

[foggy sentinel]

I just haven’t been playing shinso as much recently do I don’t have that great of experience with acceleration but what I do have I know is pretty good

[smoky tendon]

I'm kinda interested in doing silly stuff with it on yellow shiggy cause it'll likely unlock other maybe less resource intensive ways to tod but idk what I'll do with it if I play red ver lol

[foggy sentinel]

I do also play more of a melee oriented shinso so that also makes an impact

[foggy sentinel]

Oh wait you’re right

Thatd be cool

[smoky tendon]

yup, each day I wonder if I should pity deku just for his tuning lmao

or should I wait and pity him later lol

[foggy sentinel]

It’s up to you really

If you really want him or his tune go for it imo but otherwise don’t and just grind data

[smoky tendon]

doesn't help my best friend is a gambling addict and wants to watch if I do pull lol

[foggy sentinel]

I do just wanna say hawks comes out soon

[smoky tendon]

it is a few characters I want in on though, it's mostly can I wait till I pity him on someone elses banner

[foggy sentinel]

That’d probably be a better idea just save now and then if there’s someone else you want you can roll and then pity him or something

[smoky tendon]

issue is I have kiri in my hot picks roll and he's the only skill set I'm missing. If I get him there I have nothing to pity for with hawks

so I'll likely wait on that one too lmao

(luxury problems I know lol)

[foggy sentinel]

Fair

[smoky tendon]

and this is my bank

[foggy sentinel]

I don’t have any because I pitied deku’s fit in case I don’t get it

[smoky tendon]

ah yeah no that's fair

[foggy sentinel]

So I hope I get hawks with what I do have

[smoky tendon]

deku's fit is a reason to pull rn

[foggy sentinel]

I just wanted the pur for him because there was a style I wanted to run as my fit instead of just the black and green default one

[smoky tendon]

oh you know what fair

[dusty storm]

BRO THIS GAMEEEEEEEE

CAN THIS GAME NOT BUG FOR 5 SECONDS

[dense cobalt]

Hate ts

Your name looks familiar

[dusty storm]

Either you me with that name or my alt with an extra r

[dense cobalt]

Guess I've seen u in my games b4

[dusty storm]

I pray it wasn’t a horrible game of me 😭

[dense cobalt]

Lol

[twin shoal]

Hey bros, i see some people using a shinso name plate🤔 like how can i get that? Is that possible? Cuz i checked in game and I don't see one for shinso

[dense cobalt]

I hvnt seen one tbh

[foggy sentinel]

You gotta roll them again

Overhaul and onwards you need to roll a dupe to get the nameplate

But not on the hot picks banner

[dusty storm]

I saw some with red endeavour

How

[foggy sentinel]

You buy it

In the souls shop

[dusty storm]

You CAN?

[foggy sentinel]

Yes

[twin shoal]

I see, good to know🔥 thx btw

[lofty cipher]

This sucks. Would love to get Overhauls

[dawn bobcat]

Yeah it’s like 400 though horrible pricing, how is a banner more than a character ticket they should be max 250 and 300 for the purple ones

[real path]

i am a shinso player now

[rugged zodiac]

Cool

[half aspen]

There goes my win…

[dense cobalt]

What's shinso most dmging build fellas

[violet kernel]

everyone is saying it's good that hawks can escape shinso alpha 😭

[dense cobalt]

I mean no one likes being grabbed so it's understandable

[real path]

any shinso build WITHOUT SPACE HOP

[analog iris]

I run sisterly with crit. perm. because I still get value from sisterly and permeation helps me survive.

[elder stone]

FAX

SPACE HOP PROPAGANDA WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE YOU A WORSE PLAYER

[half aspen]

He’s like top three most hated character rn and for good reason

So I don’t doubt it

[violet kernel]

just wanna be different?

[elder stone]

what was your kd last season 💔

[foggy sentinel]

Most definitely

[elder stone]

I just feel like the amount of utility you get out of haveing will power and card multiplier is infinitely better than being a sitting target in the air

And it’s so easy in the shinso mirror to just look up and alpha them to the floor

Idk if you’re on controller or not

And shinso already gets a free space hop by using 1 beta

And it’s the best to insta get your beta to 9

Unless you can’t hit your shots then 4 alpha then 9 beta

[foggy sentinel]

And space hop makes it even better

[foggy sentinel]

Sure if you’re only fighting shinso but even then it’s still good as long as you adapt and realize theyre just gonna try to alpha you so you should be dropping down with a beta or trading with an alpha sooner

Space hop is good on shinso I really don’t know why you’re so dead set on saying it isnt

[elder stone]

Because i personally tried and i didn’t like it and im sharing my own opinion and experience

[foggy sentinel]

So you didn’t like a tune so you’re saying it’s bad

[elder stone]

Yes I think it’s overshadowed by better options

[foggy sentinel]

Because you personally didnt like space hop

[elder stone]

Yes I think it’s overshadowed by better options and didn’t change gameplay enough to be better than having something like willpower or card multiplier take my opinion with a grain of salt becuase I play on pc

[foggy sentinel]

Then you’re not using it properly

[elder stone]

Maybe

But I Gave it a d*mn good try

And I just wasn’t a fan

[foggy sentinel]

You can not like the tune but it doesn’t change the fact it’s free movement for the whole game free height in fights it takes up an assault slot which honestly he doesn’t have many tunes he likes in there (basically just embrittlement sisterly and the usual revenge assault)

Along with taking no charges of his beta to catch wakeups it’s really good on him

[foggy sentinel]

I can see why but just because you dislike a tune doesnt make it a bad tune for the character

[elder stone]

Ya I used mt lady tuning and will power last season

Before the new outfits

Then I took the card multiplier and will power pill

I will never say I didn’t give a chance though

I mean I know I’m not a bad player trying to use it there were my stats from last season but for the 30 games in ranked I tried it just felt lackluster

My internet is pretty shotty at my gym so that might take a bit to send

[analog iris]

facts twin

[dense cobalt]

It's undoubtedly the best tuning on shinso regardless

Anyone that says otherwise it's fine
But if a tierlist tuning was made for shinso ,space hop is an easy #1 S tier

[real path]

naw spiraling leap better

[dense cobalt]

Tell me you're capping without telling me you're capping lol

[real path]

nah

[tropic fox]

What’s the best Tuning style for the Shinobu set? I don’t really know how to build this character 😂

[violet kernel]

stats arent as important as people make them out to be

[elder stone]

i would say its a pretty good start for seeing if someone knows a thing or two about the game

like if someone tells me a tuning build and they have 1000 games .5kd and never got ace

im prob not gonna take it serious

[violet kernel]

see if you had space hop there you could've saved that beta just saying. Sisterly is valid too tho

[foggy sentinel]

And as he said earlier stats really don’t matter

[violet kernel]

i've seen people with a kd of .4 and they are still good

i think having stats in your head messes up gameplay

[elder stone]

https://tenor.com/view/67-gif-8575841764206736991

i said season 12 stats not 13 this season hasnt been out long enough

also i actually used space hop during 12

for like 30 games

like this is my season 13

kd doesnt mean anything until you get to ace

[foggy sentinel]

I feel like it’s already been out long enough but alr

[elder stone]

ya your prob right ive been on and off this season

[foggy sentinel]

That’s valid game sucks rn

[elder stone]

i just cant solo q all day when i got school and stuff

i just play kovaaks for like 2 hours to stay sharp then go outside

[foggy sentinel]

I’m just beginning to play other things more again this game is getting too powercrept

[analog iris]

I refuse to use space hop on Shinso, it's cheap and lets you do airborne beta attacks for free. So I'm not using it.

[foggy sentinel]

I rather embrittlement or acceleration

[elder stone]

this might be the real shinso

[foggy sentinel]

Just get the extra damage or some speed for combos

[elder stone]

the only joy i get out of this game is joining ttv peoples streams and watching back clips of me fragging them

[analog iris]

Why, thank you

[foggy sentinel]

Especially since I started playing a more melee oriented shinso (it may not be good but I lost my aim and I’m real good at the melee combos lol)

[elder stone]

you on pc

you are

[foggy sentinel]

Pc and switch

[elder stone]

you should try kovaaks aim trainers

very good

if you have a good attention span

[foggy sentinel]

I do more mechs than aim

Combos movement and such

[elder stone]

well i mean

you have to aim no matter what in this gaem

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah

[elder stone]

unless you use controller and the game plays for you

[foggy sentinel]

I may not be that great at aiming but I’m good enough at it that I can play well

[elder stone]

whats ur sens?

[foggy sentinel]

And even then the characters I play aim so differently it doesn’t matter much

[elder stone]

dpi plus ingame sens

[foggy sentinel]

Idk I use gyro

On controller

[elder stone]

ohh you use controller

i see

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-gif-2218387369813418815

jk

[foggy sentinel]

The only aim assist you get is with the built in game gyro

[elder stone]

the aim assist in this game is the strongest aim assit ive ever seen ever

[foggy sentinel]

Steam gyro replicates your mouse movements so you don’t get aim assist because it registers you as a mouse not a controller

[foggy sentinel]

If you’re 60+ yeah

[elder stone]

https://tenor.com/view/delta-rune-gerson-gerson-boom-deltarune-chapter4-gif-11185402837047032962

[foggy sentinel]

Switch aim assist is actual aim assist not aimbot

[elder stone]

ya non switch 2 is prob like 30 fps

[foggy sentinel]

Yup

[elder stone]

thats my 12 thats when i actually played the game alot

[foggy sentinel]

I saw

[elder stone]

i forgor

[real path]

wish i had aim like u😓

[analog iris]

https://tenor.com/view/onizuka-my-reaction-to-that-information-onizuka-my-reaction-to-that-information-onizuka-opening-onizuka-op-gif-26773336

[real path]

teach me ur ways

[analog iris]

I'm really nothing special, I was more hitting the path I assumed he would be going after being knocked down. Then I guessed he would dash back into the zone and timed my gamma to stop him in place.

[real path]

u got a guide how to play him

[analog iris]

I don't really have time for that right now, sorry. Most of what I know I gathered through playing him and by watching clips of Shinso combos.

[real path]

where

[analog iris]

On the subreddit

[real path]

ty and whats the lvl up path for him

[analog iris]

For me personally, I get beta to 4, then alpha to 4, then focus on maxing beta, followed by alpha and save gamma for last

mostly to improve the beta's reload time

[real path]

sooo i see u died to a nejire

[elder stone]

almost as bad as dying to a rapid lemillion as shinso

or a compress

[real path]

lol

[analog iris]

It was ninry bro

[pale depot]

Truly impressive

[analog iris]

sigh

[real path]

uh huhhh

[analog iris]

https://tenor.com/view/lowtiergod-low-tier-god-sleep-goodnight-moderators-gif-15792675966851774905

[real path]

YES

[violet kernel]

@analog iris what costume o you have layered?

do you do one of his one star costumes cuz i noticed a lot of pple who play layer his 1 star costumes

[analog iris]

Shinobu heat for tuning and combat for the drip

[violet kernel]

oh alr

[analog iris]

@violet kernel Ask and ye shall receive

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeroUltraRumble/comments/1o5i2rd/someone_on_discord_asked_for_a_shinso_combo

[violet kernel]

TYSM BRO

[dense cobalt]

Not to bad of a solo clutch

[violet kernel]

holy stun lol

my alphas have been teleporting people lately

like i hit my alpha from a distance and the somehow they tp infront of me

[analog iris]

new bug with this season

[violet kernel]

ahh ok

[torn coral]

stupid question does anyone have any tips on how to land shinso's alpha more consistently?

[analog iris]

It's pretty much just dependent on experience, the more you use it the better you'll become. Try to get used to the range limit and speed of it. In an open area, the alpha hitbox lands slightly below and to the left of the crosshair so keep that in mind.

[torn coral]

I cant hit his alpha for sh*t

no idea why people say he is busted

[dense cobalt]

Ur sense fr
Gotta get comfortable with that
Plus I hit more alphas on a lower sense compared to higher

[torn coral]

what do you have your sense as?

[dense cobalt]

Had 250 from the get go but cranked it down to 130-150 with 0 deadzones

[peak nacelle]

support shinso goes crazy

[violet kernel]

discussion of the day?

does shinso have the best mobility for strike character?

[dense cobalt]

Red kiri exist

[violet kernel]

yeah true

and i still think red kendo and strike hawks have better

[dense cobalt]

Hawks naa
But kendo yeah

[peak nacelle]

red hawks movement is underrated

[dense cobalt]

Blue hawks still has more mobility than red , with the nerfed sa u can't move to far with red hawks unless u wanna burn through all ur long ahh cds

[peak nacelle]

his gamma alongside his special action tech takes you pretty far fast

[dense cobalt]

A shinso can still easily catch up with lower cds penalty lmao

[dusty storm]

What costume you got

[shut tree]

should i join the dark side and play shinso

absolutely hate how unfair he is to fight

[rugged zodiac]

yes

special action anybody who tries to run from you

and lead them to their own doom

[shut tree]

i mostly use it as a defensive tool

[rugged zodiac]

i do both

[shut tree]

doont end up needing it offensivly

my aim is pretty decent so usually dont have issues landing alphas consistently

[rugged zodiac]

me neither, but still sometimes when they're out of reach it very satisfying

[shut tree]

one time i did use sa on a person who opened box and took their loot that was funny

[foggy sentinel]

Yes

[shut tree]

https://tenor.com/view/obiwan-star-wars-obi-wan-gif-10973435

this a good budget build with willpower gp sucker? i dont have any pur

[foggy sentinel]

I used default heat for a budget build

[shut tree]

what am i even supposed to run here 💔

embrit for melee combo?

[foggy sentinel]

Embrittlement hp and beta damage some gp damage more hp and some melee damage

[shut tree]

hmm since embrit only helps his beta damage maybe i should go triple beta dmg

[foggy sentinel]

It also helps his alpha and melee damage

[shut tree]

isnt the combo alpha melee gamma beta?

[foggy sentinel]

Yes however there are times where you combo into alpha

Like sa gamma air melee alpha

If you don’t wanna wait it out for different combos that is

[shut tree]

are the other combos even worth it

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah

You can’t always do one

You need to have variety to fit different situations and setups

[shut tree]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

another thing should i run divine protection or revnge support

revnge support doesnt really last long enough at lv 4

[foggy sentinel]

I’d say thats personal preference

I prefer revenge support however I know people that prefer divine protection

[shut tree]

i could do some funny business with sa and divine protection though

[foggy sentinel]

Then yeah I’d say run diving protection

[shut tree]

yea diving protection lasts 2.5 mins at level 4

thats enough for 1 box

other hand revnge support is 4.5 sec

thats like 50 hp recovered on guard break

[foggy sentinel]

That is every guardbreak though and it’s saved me enough times for me to continue running it

[shut tree]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[shut tree]

356 damage combo

also is alpha melee gamma beta not true on gp?

[foggy sentinel]

Only with acceleration

See how fast gamma is

[livid rapids]

It is u just need to get a specific hitbox with air melee

[dense cobalt]

Kinda, but sum are just for clip farm tbh

[livid rapids]

I can send a video of it if u want

[shut tree]

Bet

[foggy sentinel]

Please I’ve never seen that happen

[shut tree]

Because on hp it always works but gp sometimes just doesn't

[foggy sentinel]

I only ever had it work with a poor connection

[shut tree]

can't gaslight my lan cable

[livid rapids]

@shut tree @foggy sentinel

[foggy sentinel]

Huh weird

[shut tree]

Basically they can't be too close when you alpha?

[foggy sentinel]

I’m gonna have to try that later

[livid rapids]

Its more so with his air melee

[shut tree]

I've noticed they go too far from melee when i kick them over my head instead of from the side

[livid rapids]

It lingers for a lot longer than it looks so u need to get the hitbox at the end of the air melee

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah no it lasts a long time

[livid rapids]

If ur closer u can just back up a bit and do it after the alpha but being farther def helps

[foggy sentinel]

I use it a ton to start melee combos

[shut tree]

Aight gotchu so only go for kick if they're farther, if closer just directly do beta

[livid rapids]

Shinso also has a tod on i think 350 hp characters i can send later

[livid rapids]

If they're gp yea

[foggy sentinel]

I bet it’s an sa thing too isnt it

[livid rapids]

If they're hp always for kick

[livid rapids]

Yea

[shut tree]

Yeah yeah only gp, the kick will always work for hp

[foggy sentinel]

Called it

[shut tree]

Nice to know

Can you beta sa beta?

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah

[shut tree]

Wow

[livid rapids]

Uhhhhhh

I dont think so

[foggy sentinel]

Oh sa

Nvm I’m dumb no you can’t

[shut tree]

That'd be insanely busted

[livid rapids]

Yea

Beta has 375 kd power

[shut tree]

Wait you can beta gamma beta then?

[livid rapids]

Sa has 125

[livid rapids]

Yea

On hp

U can also do beta air melee gamma beta

[shut tree]

"on hp"

[foggy sentinel]

You can also beta air melee gamma beta

[shut tree]

Oh that's a combo that sounds fun, i imagine it's also on hp only

[livid rapids]

Yea

But one alpha to beta already gets them to hp so its not hard

We love our top 10 character

[foggy sentinel]

And even then you can just do a melee combo and their cracked

[shut tree]

Yeah i mean alpha kick beta does 356 anyways 😂

(with embrit)

Man shinso is an evil character

[livid rapids]

100%

[foggy sentinel]

But hes so peak

[shut tree]

I mean i was hesitant to play him even after getting him in rolls because he's just that evil

[sly fiber]

What’s your tuning, this is crazyy

[foggy sentinel]

Default cyberhero

[sly fiber]

Can you post a pic of your tuning later tho?

[foggy sentinel]

Sure

[sly fiber]

Thx, also your aim is actually insane

[foggy sentinel]

No

Like it’s genuinely not

[sly fiber]

I’ve seen the vids lol, yea it is

[foggy sentinel]

I’m just saying theres a reason I’ve been trying for more of the melee combos nowadays

I fell off hard

[sly fiber]

Im sure it’s finee

I can’t ever get a chance with melees, ofa deku with monoma isn’t a good combination lol

Even worse if it’s toga and monoma

[foggy sentinel]

I just naturally play closer

[shut tree]

If nothing works just spam beta 💔

[foggy sentinel]

Overhaul twice and rapidku helped me with that

There were some others too but they haven’t really affected how I play and react with shinso

[sly fiber]

Is the only way to get better at aiming just to use shinso more -_-

[foggy sentinel]

That’s my plan

[sly fiber]

Darnn, welp

[shut tree]

I actually got better aim by playing froppy

Because you get insanely punished for missing alpha

Alsoa air melee alpha beta works that's kinda crazy

[sly fiber]

Alr, thx

[livid rapids]

Try air melee jab jab air melee gamma beta

[shut tree]

What is this sorcery

Besides i feel like air melee alpha beta is his best combo, does this do more damage than that?

Also i have got air melee combo for gp down

Time for more evil

[livid rapids]

Yea

[shut tree]

I think im good on tech for now i just learned tech for 3 separate combos

Went in and practiced them and everything

[dense cobalt]

I mean if u can use aizawa that's a bonus

[sly fiber]

I’ve never used him:P

[dense cobalt]

In that case, u could just go into training and try connecting alphas mid air
That's how I mastered mine at least

[sly fiber]

Thxx

[smoky tendon]

I just figured out this combo can already work on GP

https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/o4YWXK

https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/a4Oe6R

with accel that can prolly be pretty consistent, and that damage is without tuning too 😭

will say hitting the right part of beta in an actual match might pose as a difficulty though, I think it's kinda hard to get the air melee follow up vs gp, the gamma is not fully consistent for me either but accel would likely fix that

honestly I don't think it's even too different from how it is vs hp, I'm just realizing that I'm carried by space hop for making the correct spot of beta way easier to hit 💀

[livid rapids]

Combo from a guy called like i_79025 on tiktok

[smoky tendon]

naur

counting to wait out sa is next level evil

didn't know they had down power reset when it ends

[shut tree]

Pretty sure sa just ignores downpower values and you get knocked by next attack regardless

Once sa ends downpower calc comes back byt timing it perfectly to land beta is next level evil

[foggy sentinel]

no you can combo off sa without it ending

most just gamma into melee kinda stuff

gamma m1 beta or gamma air melee alpha kinda things

easiest to do imo

[smoky tendon]

kinda yeah, special itself has 125 downpower though, which even if just that carried over would ruin the following combo, and special itself does care about what happened before I think, you can't do air melee special gamma air melee beta, cause the air melee in the start I think but alpha cancel into the same end should work

[smoky tendon]

huh m1 works? 👀
my brain said 125 + 3*125 = 500 but I shall test both that and what I said

[foggy sentinel]

yeah if you dont try to attack immediately you can get stuff off it

[smoky tendon]

hmmmm, interesting, so it turns out you have to wait out the 125 special action down power resetting, and once you do you can m1 after gamma instead of air melee

I understand

[foggy sentinel]

Yuh

Also after air melee you can beta but I haven’t had that work consistently unlike m1 beta or air melee alpha

Maybe it’ll work better with accel idk

[smoky tendon]

yeah it's a bit awkward, I assume easiest to do if you hit gamma at max range then try to hit the very end of air melee, like what you need to hit alpha air melee gamma beta vs gp

having to gamma before can put you awkwardly close though

[smoky tendon]

likely

[foggy sentinel]

Oh probably

[smoky tendon]

yup seems consistent to me, this is how:

https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/wmWyr8

note how I even move away before the air melee

and gamma at approximately max range

might not need to be max range after level 4

[foggy sentinel]

Sweet

I’ll keep that in mind and hopefully hit it sometime

[smoky tendon]

hehe :>

[shut tree]

this man is evil

[violet kernel]

he's the punisher

[shut tree]

Haven't lost a single game with him yet it's crazy

[violet kernel]

my dreams and aspirations

[livid rapids]

No clue what ur talking abt

I would never fr

[shut tree]

After landing sa it's mandatory to emote before using beta

[cinder finch]

shinso

[shut tree]

Yup checks out

[prisma fjord]

I got Shinso recently and oh my goodness he is fun, although a little strong

Need to remind myself to use the Gamma more lol

[shut tree]

Gamma is a pretty good get off me tool

But the main attraction is his alpha melee gamma beta combo

[prisma fjord]

I kinda wish the Special and Gamma were swapped

Would feel more natural to me but oh well, pretty fun anyway

[shut tree]

His special is such a fun ability to use

Absolutely love it it's my favourite part of his kit

[cinder finch]

nothing beats hitting SA, emoting, and downing an enemy

[waxen token]

This character is so busted people don’t play him much cause it’s too easy

[shut tree]

Also hitting sa to steal someone's box or finish their downed teammate Infront of them

[cinder finch]

i wouldnt necessarily say hes easy

hes definitely not hard but you have to have pretty decent aim/timing to execute this character properly

[waxen token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083837696595738766/1362556364508889208/attachment.gif

Dude it’s not hard to alpha beta get the gb alpha beta down

The character is busted and broken and also boring

That’s why he isn’t played much

His SA is fun though

[cinder finch]

dunno. in comparison to the other S tier characters, id say he has the 2nd highest skill ceiling

[waxen token]

Is this bait

[shut tree]

I've been playing since launch, in my experience shinso is just easy to play

I pulled him a while ago vut only started playing him this week

Already dropped multiple 10 ko games

[waxen token]

Literally a turn your brain off character easy to get kills

[shut tree]

Thing is his alpha gets bigger hitboxes at lv 4 and 9

It's crazy

One alpha goodbye 280 hp

[waxen token]

I’m pretty sure nobody in this game ever wants to meet a shinso 1 on 1

[cinder finch]

[shut tree]

A shinso in a 1v1 is fundamentally unfair

Only way you can win is if shinso is doodoo

[waxen token]

Yeah but sadly you get bored quick too it makes the game too easy

[cinder finch]

only character that actually wins is tech lemillion

[waxen token]

One failed counter and he’s cooked one missed beta and he’s cooked

[shut tree]

One mistimed gamma and you die

[cinder finch]

youre permanently invincible with alphas

[waxen token]

It’ll run out eventually

Unless he has special action active he’s doomed

[cinder finch]

not before shinso would be completely shredded without landing anything

[waxen token]

But your right it’s a 50/50 with both characters depends on whose better

If Mirio has good aim he wins

[cinder finch]

tech million is the undisputed goat of 1v1s

[waxen token]

True one that knows to manage cooldowns is annoying incredibly

[cinder finch]

a perfect player could be permanently invincible with tech lemillion

and you cant even catch him out because he can just permeate to an ally for free

my duo and i's strat is to run tech dabi + lemillion and just allow the mirio to perma reset

[waxen token]

He’s a reverse kurogiri with that buff

[fathom cave]

Improvements?

[livid rapids]

Add crit perm and that should be fine

[shut tree]

Shinso with crit perm seems comically evil

You try to hit him, bam 300 combo on you instead

[fathom cave]

Always or situational

And why would it be useful outside of survivability

How would shinso make it special

[shut tree]

The thing about shinso is if he grabs you once you're losing a health bar, crit perm literally gives you a free shot on your opponent while they're stuck in end lag

[fathom cave]

Not wrong 🤔

[livid rapids]

Always and that's since Crit perm is jsut broken in general and if someone is mashing on u while ur permeated u get a free combo

[fathom cave]

Fairs thx u two

[dense cobalt]

Not as easy as u think

[violet kernel]

you turn your brain off you land alpha in the middle of shigaraki decay and die 👍

he's not hard but he's definetly not easy

no chracter that needs to aim is "easy"

compare him to the other s tiers Ochaco- gamma hitbox is basically double, hinda hitbox is massive no aim require

mic- boombox does the aiming for you and doubles your dps

blueku-i mean do i really gotta say much?

he has a skill ceiling not high like rapidgo or aizawa but he's not turn your brain off and play

[fathom cave]

Yeah u can get jumped mid alpha so bad

[violet kernel]

with the right counter you can die from landing one alpha

[fathom cave]

I only play shinso cuz landing his sa funny asf

[waxen token]

Space hop alpha in the air

[violet kernel]

i just like combo characters

[violet kernel]

you said turn your brain off

[waxen token]

Is it hard to jump and alpha

[violet kernel]

so he's "turn your brain off" with tuning?

[waxen token]

Do you gotta turn your brain off to press two buttons

No you can do it with regular jump too

Why are you trying to argue that he takes skill

[violet kernel]

are you reading at all?

he takes situational awareness

that's the only skill

he's not braindead stupidly easy but he's not hard

[waxen token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945533454811021342/1402914909989109812/togif.gif

[foggy sentinel]

Why are you arguing that he doesn’t?

[violet kernel]

read this, he's not as hard as aizawa or any other chracter with a learning curve

and he needs nerfs

[foggy sentinel]

Not a single character in this game takes no skill

[fathom cave]

Put it on my soul

[violet kernel]

...

[waxen token]

https://tenor.com/view/kathlol-speed-ishowspeed-speed-laugh-ishowspeed-laugh-gif-3259526663984568833

[violet kernel]

but turn your brain off is absolutely terrible

[waxen token]

At the end of the day everybody got their own opinion no point anyways

[foggy sentinel]

Me when I can’t fathom dying to a character so I call them brainless

[waxen token]

Have fun that’s all that matters

[waxen token]

Entitled to your opinions bro

[violet kernel]

🤷

[mint kraken]

Bro play some Aizawa or Kurogiri I beg

Or literally any character that isn’t Shinso

[prisma fjord]

Tbh I'm just happy to have a new character

Is he busted? Probably but I'm using a funny speedy civilian rescue build anyway so I don't think I'm doing much harm

[violet kernel]

wdym?

[mint kraken]

I'm saying Shinso has the lowest skill ceiling in this game, kinda obvious no

at the very least, among the "S Tiers"

[sly fiber]

He isn’t “no skill”, bc you have to learn how to aim, what combos to use when, etc. If anything, ofa deku’s an easier character, bc you just melee and spam beta.

[livid rapids]

Yea but if we are talking abt ceiling rapid dekus is def higher cuz he actually has complex combos

Shinso is pretty easy

[mint kraken]

every character you have to aim, this is not skillful lol

[livid rapids]

With a very low ceiling

[mint kraken]

the cope to say a character that can guard break you with 2 buttons is actually crazy

like oh jeez what combo should I use

this alpha into beta combo or this alpha into melee into gamma into beta combo

ohhhh my brain trembles

[livid rapids]

Alpha to beta or alpha to air melee to beta

[foggy sentinel]

Me when a character is strong so apparently that means no skill

[livid rapids]

Very hard

[mint kraken]

I literally play aizawa and kurogiri

what is this argument

[foggy sentinel]

They really aren’t hard

[mint kraken]

lol okay

[sly fiber]

Aizawa and shinso are similar tho

[foggy sentinel]

If I’m being totally honest theyre easy

[sly fiber]

Getting 6k with shinso is easy, but it takes a while to get the combo timing down

And i don’t really use alpha

Why do ppl assume that -_-

[foggy sentinel]

I’m not arguing shinso is weak either he is definitely that strong and needs a nerf but that doesn’t make him a “no skill character”

[livid rapids]

Alr aizawa skill floor is easy

Alpha to gamma

But ceiling is a much different case

Shinsos skill ceiling is really low

His combos really arent that hard

[sly fiber]

You can’t just play shinso, he’s not easy to use

[livid rapids]

You can

You definitely can

[foggy sentinel]

You can’t really just play anyone

[livid rapids]

I play shinso id know

[foggy sentinel]

That’s why theres a tutorial

[livid rapids]

Alpha to beta is the most free thing ever

Alpha to air melee to gamma to beta isnt much harder

[sly fiber]

What’s your max damage with him?

[livid rapids]

Idk im not keeping track

Prob like 7k

[sly fiber]

I’ve gotten 9.4 k or smth without rlly using gamma

[foggy sentinel]

I mean I would too

[mint kraken]

You have no basis on which to be saying this

Can you explain how kurogiri is easy?

[foggy sentinel]

Uh huh

[livid rapids]

No gamma that's like his worst move

[mint kraken]

Because you saw some dude beta x3 into gamma once and was like op combo?

[sly fiber]

You just spam alpha, and tp yourself around. I’ve played him

[mint kraken]

😭

@glad trail

hahahaha

these dudes have no idea how kurogiri work

[sly fiber]

7k damage, is not knowing how it works?

[mint kraken]

and yet have the need to call other characters easy just because they're under aizen's kyoka suigetsu that shinso is not easy

[sly fiber]

My result score was 52k

[livid rapids]

🥀

As a person that's plays kuro and shinso alot kuro is so much harder

[mint kraken]

omg 7k damage you must be the master kurogiri

teach me your ways

[livid rapids]

Shinso has one of the lowest skill ceiling in the game

[glad trail]

anyone that does surely has a good monitor and is blessed with beta stealing

[mint kraken]

you'll beat all the rapid dekus and red dekus and shinso with that alpha strat

[mint kraken]

nah these dudes dont portal at all

they're on a higher wavelength

[foggy sentinel]

You can play disconnected easily with no problems whatsoever other than poor positioning (which isnt even hard to work around lmao) you can single out targets and kill with the as you mentioned beta 3x into gamma (or if you have experience a simple beta into alpha a few times works just fine) free rezzes with your infinite range sa and instant quick mobility that one should not be able to chase when done properly isnt too hard if I’m being honest

[mint kraken]

"just spam alpha"

dunno why we didn't think of that

[sly fiber]

@foggy sentinel it’s fine, drop this.

[foggy sentinel]

Kuro really isnt hard

[sly fiber]

Not worth it

I fully agree with you, but we’re gonna be at this ages

[foggy sentinel]

And I’d also like to mention he is also among the top of tier lists with his exceptional range damage output and supportive capabilities

[prisma fjord]

Tbh when it comes to strong characters Shinso doesn't really cross my mind.
We just have too many strong characters atm so it's really just, who beats who's main at this point lol.

[mint kraken]

Beta 3x into gamma is easy but that's only into the mid and early game, once the circle gets closed in, and everyone is moving at mach 5 or flying, good luck pulling off that combo.

[foggy sentinel]

Ok???

[mint kraken]

And that's IF the beta even teleports in the first place.

[foggy sentinel]

Theres a reason why I didn’t use that as my main point

[mint kraken]

Shinso can do his alpha beta anytime anywhere

and doesn't have 2 of his abilities on cooldown for 10+ seconds after

for it

[foggy sentinel]

It uses all your mobility why do it

[sly fiber]

It’s fine

[foggy sentinel]

Until he fights more than a few people

He can’t just escape as easily as others while he has good mobility it’s still not hard to punish

[prisma fjord]

Shinso from what I've played, needs a higher level Beta to be able to deal with multiple people, plus making sure the Special lands helps.

[mint kraken]

infinite range sa is pretty good but ofc falls off in late game and ofc that's if the SA teleports, but having a good SA does not make him easy, right?

"Me when a character is strong so apparently that means no skill"

[glad trail]

no 1 is "hard"
but if cem isnt hard, then literally no 1 is. Its about skill ceiling and skill floor.
ez lobbies, u can do kuro w.e u want prolly. You arnt pulling kuro off this this specific(movement inerta chagne) meta easily in eu lobbies at all. could go on but theres a reason you rarely see a threatining kuro or cem all ima say

[mint kraken]

Why would a shinso do that

[prisma fjord]

I think Shinso definitely takes some thought to use well so I don't really hate him, even before getting him.

[mint kraken]

are eu lobbies the hardest

maybe i should swap to na

[foggy sentinel]

Because the players that play this game suck

[prisma fjord]

He hits hard, but only if you land his Betas

[glad trail]

if you are premade, absouletly.

[foggy sentinel]

Uh huh because you haven’t pulled him off before

[mint kraken]

Also the escape point is moot by the time again, final circle closes in, because unless you're storm healing you're pretty cooked. You'll need to bring a lot of HP pots.

[foggy sentinel]

That’s not too hard

[prisma fjord]

Me, I kinda suck at landing the Beta which is why my build more so revolves around quicker reloads for the Alpha

[sly fiber]

@foggy sentinel dude, they’re not gonna stop with this, let them have their opinion

[mint kraken]

There's a lot of things that make Kurogiri hard I think that include cooldown management, positioning, target prioritsation, knowing when to make yourself available for a teammate whos about to go down, sending away people, etc

[foggy sentinel]

Getting some hp is easy especially since storm camping is something he can do comfortably

[mint kraken]

For me, Shinso is just someone who guard breaks with 2 buttons and can also steal your items.

[foggy sentinel]

And there are things that makes shinso hard

[foggy sentinel]

Yes he can do that but thats doesnt make him no skill

[mint kraken]

I never said he was no skill

[prisma fjord]

The stealing your items thing is really funny though ngl

[livid rapids]

Like?

[mint kraken]

I said he had the lowest skill ceiling

[glad trail]

well as the guy that plays him and has done it, im saying you really cant lol. only if you have a good monitor. NA lobbies kinda ez. EU it would be a struggle unless i could steall 90% of the time. Youd just have to find our urself no real convincing.

make a tier list of easy to hard and kuro is up there all ima say

[mint kraken]

EU lobbies are so painful as kurogiri bro you need to use storm to heal up and whatnot with all these final circles ending up in no mans land

so you cant find any place to hide

[prisma fjord]

I only hate Kurogiri when they're reving an annoying character tbh

[mint kraken]

and you're easy to track with the portals

[foggy sentinel]

And you get punished for 1v1s in na

[prisma fjord]

So that really applies to any instant rev dude

[foggy sentinel]

You’re simply just slow then

Long portal into a couple short ones and you’re gone

Maybe a gamma to seal the deal

[sly fiber]

Love how you needed someone else to help your case here

[mint kraken]

Brother I'm talking about a small circle...

[glad trail]

i ochako alpha catches up in small circle lol. ppl underestimate movement chagne

[sly fiber]

@foggy sentinel @prisma fjord just stop replying, if you don’t respond, this’ll stop

[foggy sentinel]

Just shut up man

[glad trail]

yea its fun debating. scram!

[prisma fjord]

Sorry I was just down to have a conversation

[mint kraken]

I just needed to confirm I wasn't going crazy since you guys are kurogiri players too I guess

[foggy sentinel]

You can stop and that’s fine however I am debating with these two so pretty please

[mint kraken]

and that kurogiri does in fact take a lot of skill

[foggy sentinel]

He got another player that plays kuro wym

[livid rapids]

Wait hold up what makes shinso so much harder than kuro

Rq

[glad trail]

who tf is saying that

[livid rapids]

Them

Not u guys

[glad trail]

i didnt read aint no way someoen saying that

[foggy sentinel]

It’s not a bad thing to get someone else to validate and share their experiences aswell