Overhaul

[void sigil]

That's how you insta-kill 350HP characters (on HP) in a single combo lol
You just get like 4-5 non-ads Alphas in before the combo

[young cypress]

I despise going for ground gammas but I’ll try it out

[young sun]

Doesn't go nearly as far as air gammas

Sigh

[young cypress]

If they had different cooldowns I’d use ground more

[proud rivet]

so whats the order for that

gamma air alpha?

does the air melee make the launch distance less?

[young sun]

It requires

Precise timing

Ground gamma, and then alpha cancel into air melee.

Master that part first tbh

And then after that it's just spamming aimed alpha

[long lotus]

oh you're controller on pc?

i've been watning to switch to pc ngl

better frames

[void sigil]

Yep! Controller player on PC since Day 1

[young sun]

Yeah I think imma just keep playing supporthaul until they can give the assault one a buff

I just had like

Back to back to back 6k+ and 4+ KO games in ranked

With support

One of which nearly got to 10k

[void sigil]

My monitor is actually close to 60fps so I don't see anything different from PS5 players 😆 I just lag less

[young sun]

Okay one was 5.6k but still

I am goated trust

Idek who this was but my brotha

[steel bolt]

is there a possibility we will get an overall guide to this character any time soon

especially a collection of combos

i see so many but no clue what are the actual bread n butters

[sullen gulch]

for support or assault

[young sun]

I miss using supporthaul

[noble kraken]

you'll take your daily dose of asshaul and like it 🥀

[young sun]

I do. But I like Supporthaul too

[noble kraken]

I want asshaul but my rng sucks, so I've been kinda forced into sticking with supporthaul

[young sun]

Hope you get him soon

[noble kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160743780115300416/1271937920550567986/attachment.gif

[young sun]

If I could give you one of my duplicates I had I would

[steel bolt]

assault cuz support already has a guide

[sullen gulch]

thats being made rn itll probably be a bit before its ready

[proud rivet]

time to uninstall

worthless ahh players wanna play bad, not use half their buttons, and walk into damage when on my team

so when they're in the next lobby as an opp, I killed them 3 times and they're doing better than half the other players and their rat teammates keep reviving them

[young sun]

😭

[proud rivet]

why couldn't Overhaul release broken

I wanted to solo a lobby and not worry about terrible matchmaking in every multiplayer game I play

[young sun]

Ended up soloing a lobby with the support version instead 🥀💔

[proud rivet]

i could

I just really like assault

and he's terrible on half the maps

[rare temple]

Genuinely happy watching my combo knowledge reach others. It's a shame I get little to zero traction on YouTube

[young sun]

I saw one of your vids on tiktok about it today.

Its how I even learned of it lmao

[floral spoke]

First YAFO now Overhaul?

[sullen gulch]

if you wanna keep accel you should try fusion fancy

you lose out on sa reload but you do get willpower

[noble kraken]

he looks so fun

[rare temple]

This was my budget built I have it already

[sullen gulch]

W

[noble kraken]

wouldn't cyberpunk fancy be his best, since you can pull off that combo without accel?

[sullen gulch]

If he’s fine without it yeah cyberpunk fancy would be best but if he wants accel he can run fusion fancy or formal dangerous

[noble kraken]

I don't even have the character, but I think this is how you do it https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mbinIlSvugtNjB3xe?invite=cr-MSx2WmwsOTM3NzgwODg&v=8

the one where you can actually TOD a 250 hp character though, where you have to land some alphas first, definitely harder to do https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mbiu4l6XabgkLvURZ?invite=cr-MSxDRkwsOTM3NzgwODg&v=300

[umbral harbor]

theres not really timing you can mash the combo just make sure youre inputting movement

[warped tundra]

You have to time it the moment gamma ends.... so yeah there's timing

[umbral harbor]

if you can just mash through the entire gamma idk if you should be calling that timing

[warped tundra]

You can though?

Literally have to wait for a specific time when the gamma lets you press alpha, and instantly jump and air melee

All parts of it require timing

[umbral harbor]

you dont have to wait for the specific time you can literally just mash all the inputs at the same time

[frigid linden]

To be honest I've lost interest in assault overhaul...I die easily in ranked...and using him messed with my kd ratio...so I'm dropping him till he's buffed and they fix all his bugs...sometimes I do the full gamma beta alpha combo and only the initial gamma hit does damage... The beta alpha and even the gamma explosion doesn't work... In ace rank lobby that's like a death sentence cos you can't run away and you didn't do enough damage.. And you have crazy cool downs... honestly he's useless...I hardly see him in ranked lobbies anymore...

[sullen gulch]

ads alpha and dont fish for as many gammas ig

There are ways to work around such issues

Dropping him is not one of them

[hushed oxide]

Is there anymore combos for assault overhaul

[misty sparrow]

Melee combo

[hushed oxide]

Mind showing me

[misty sparrow]

Can’t show

But I can tell you how

Air melee, melee 1, m2, beta, gamma, alpha

[hushed oxide]

Ty gang

[desert canyon]

Guys if you find any combow could you tag me?

[sullen gulch]

That hard knocks after the beta

Itd be better to just go air melee m1 gamma alpha alpha

[noble carbon]

What's your pity

[sullen gulch]

110 something I think

[hushed oxide]

Usually I'll do aim in alpha two times gamma air melee

[misty sparrow]

Ik

I never said it was a true combo

I just said it’s a combo

I’ve done it before

[sullen gulch]

Would you call all of this a combo

[proud rivet]

no

[wet loom]

I didn't know gamma, beta, gamma was a combo

[proud rivet]

i hate cheaters so fricking much

I beta'd an all for one on the ground and jumped up to the top of a building

BRO WAS ALREADY THERE AND SPEARED ME ON SIGHT

literally only one afo in the lobby and it was the same skin

[winged helm]

Yoo wanna help me out with an experiment on assault overhaul ?

or anyone ?

I want test something out of curiosity

[tidal hollow]

if the combo isn't true in general nor can be made true

just call it a mixup

[hushed oxide]

How do I land the air melee on controller it's really hard ngl

[sullen gulch]

Alpha and then air melee when you do the uppercut

[hushed oxide]

so right after the uppercut do I do the gamma?

[sullen gulch]

No after the uppercut from the gamma you do an alpha and immediately cancel into an air melee

This could help

[hushed oxide]

can you show me a slower version of the clip first time doing it ngl

[sullen gulch]

I can’t because I don’t have one but there is a clip that shows the inputs you can slow down

[hushed oxide]

I keep doing it wrong ngl idk what's the problem I just try to air melee after gamma

Plus it sends them up to high to do a air melee

I try doing it but keep failing

[winged helm]

alright gotchu bro

[hushed oxide]

Ping me when you post it cuz I keep failing it

[umbral harbor]

mash jump melee and alpha at the same time while holding movement in any direction

there isnt strict timing on the inputs so you can just spam into the combo and itll work every time

[glacial pasture]

How do you beat support neijre with Support overhaul

[sullen gulch]

Try to beam her down and catch her when she touches the ground

Or go indoors she’s way weaker there

[glacial pasture]

She usually sky camps

[sullen gulch]

Again try to beam her down attempt to catch her landing or bait her indoors

[glacial pasture]

I also level alpha last

[sullen gulch]

Your counterplay has not changed that is all you can do to her

[sullen gulch]

That still doesn’t change anything

It’s all you can do unfortunately support nejire is just a really bad matchup for overhaul

[glacial pasture]

Guess im just bad, most of them would kill me before i can do anything

[sullen gulch]

That’s because overhaul loses to nejire

[glacial pasture]

Do you have any other overhaul tips

[sullen gulch]

Hold on

https://ultrarumble.com/guide/character/3400

[glacial pasture]

Thanks

[fresh chasm]

support is still good

[forest marten]

Does it not count as a grab why ain't that work

[proud rivet]

I wish overhaul had actual combos

[copper schooner]

@sullen gulch do we need to sprint? Is that was r2 is

Y did it tag redgem lol

[sullen gulch]

You need to alpha not sprint

[copper schooner]

the video, he is pressing trigger buttons. i assumed he sprinted as well.

[sullen gulch]

Nah you don’t gotta sprint the trigger is his alpha

I think his sprint is his left trigger iirc although I could be wrong

[warped tundra]

Let assault overhaul be the thor of ultra rumble, everyone just keep saying hes weak and D tier so we get a micro buff every patch

[cloud stone]

How do you jump attack that fast

[warped tundra]

Just gotta know when to do it

[noble kraken]

honestly just go in training and lab it for like 5 minutes, it got really easy once I did that, though I might be a quick learner

I don't know why I even labbed it when I don't have asshaul, as bad as I want him

[proud rivet]

the last update added the function to immediately air attack after pressing jump

so you can be a milimeter off the ground and air melee

very nice for combos on hawks

[steel bolt]

@rare temple do you mind compiling a chart of asshaul combos

Atleast the ones you feel like are bread and butter

[young sun]

Air gamma, beta, ads alpha does a solid 200 damage generally.

Gamma aimed alpha does close to the same.

There is a complex combo that can do nearly 400 but it requires the most precise timing

[noble kraken]

sooo explain the combo

[young sun]

So the order goes gamma, Alpha cancel -> air melee, and then aimed alphas

[haughty frigate]

u have to do ground gamma to alpha cancel air melee then 2 aim alphas

[young sun]

And it requires very quick timing

[haughty frigate]

its precise timing but its not that hard

also make sure ur walkign forward while using aim alpha

its pretty easy once u get the combo down

i run quirk fusion hero and it hits for abt 380~

on flesh u can also do beta airgamma double alpha which hits for like 330 with my build

if u have accel im pretty sure u can get 4 alphas so abt 400 dmg

[noble kraken]

oh nvm I've mastered that already, I didn't think it was doing that much dmg

[young sun]

I know there is beta, air gamma, alpha, beta. But its height dependant.

Otherwise its normally just beta, air gamma, beta

But it takes all your movement away effectively

[haughty frigate]

just do double alpha instead

more dmg and u don't burn beta

[haughty frigate]

are u hitting 2 alphas or just one?

[noble kraken]

2

[steel bolt]

Ngl bro this character feels so useless the gamma just straight up doesnt work

no armor

wonky tracking

whiffing basically puts a nail on ur coffin

and even if you hit it the dmg isnt great and u have to wait 10 seconds for it to come back

[floral spoke]

I'll be playing support until they fix the bugs

[steel bolt]

and like i get hes "combo focused" but other characters in this game atleast have control

like any combo character like aizawa or shinso or kendo etc. all can consistently land combos and all get armor on their moves but the "asssault" defense focused character has 0 hyperarmor on his moves

and even if you dont get hit u just whiff

i have no clue why byking havent hotfixed him because if he was good or meta he would be selling more

even tokoyami is selling more than overhaul

[proud rivet]

He's "combo focused" and his combos are the same as everyone else

I guess Denki is combo focused since you can string his together too

[sullen gulch]

???

first off no theyre not second off he uses combos to maximise his damage and secure kills making him combo focused

[proud rivet]

Not really

[sullen gulch]

Explain it to me

[young sun]

He's mixed for me atm

Hes fun to use and stuff but at the same time the damage is a little underwhelming

Hard to pull KOs

Racking damage is pretty easy tho

If they slightly buffed the ads alpha and fixed his current bugs I think he'd be fine tbh

Like 14-15 per tick ada alphas

[young cypress]

Uh

You know what ads means buddy?

[young sun]

Im sick as a dog and tired so I'm a little slow

Mb

You get my point

Or whatever

Alright gn 😭😭

May all your Overhaul matches be good ones

[desert canyon]

Guys I think the only way your doing a lot of damage is if you lang your gamma while someone is falling real high up and while there falling you use your aimed alphas

[young cypress]

That’s for highest damage technically but plenty of combos do great damage

As redgem has showcased

[young sun]

Has anyone sent a video of quick reload assault Overhaul yet

[echo crown]

Wild someone left a hate post in my profile

😂

[young sun]

Legit?

😭

[echo crown]

yea

I recall playing strictly overhaul that day along with a friend of mine

its funny that they are mad when i recall just having fun that day lol

[noble kraken]

I'm never pulling this QSS bro. https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mcr3t22jpiiKDh6cw?invite=cr-MSxIYmYsOTM3NzgwODg&v=33

[young cypress]

Looks like you’ve barely rolled

Less than 10 multi’s

[noble kraken]

Yeah I've been gathering tickets, decently hard when I've already rolled for another character this season before I knew asshaul was comin out

[young sun]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-watching-eating-popcorn-drama-gif-12252109670276761360

[young sun]

I pulled him 3 times in 10 multis

I only had to pity the cyberpunk outfit

[young cypress]

I pulled him and both outfits after doing 20

Exchanged for red hawks. Easy gg

[young sun]

This was literally my first multi

😭😭

[noble kraken]

this type of luck is what I need rn

[noble kraken]

thoughts? Using it for supporthaul for now

[tawdry sun]

Because I mean it looks really good as it is right now

[wet loom]

It's really good for both

[young cypress]

I prefer revenge tech for Asshaul tbh

[sullen gulch]

swap toga for all might swap tamaki for an hp attack and swap todo for tamaki that way you can maximise your damage and everything

[noble kraken]

Alright, thanks. Someone also said swap assaultmight for assault uraraka and rapidgo for Mirio, I don’t really understand why

[sullen gulch]

im glad you didnt lmao

[noble kraken]

played one match and it was decent, got one K.O cuz I got dropped by tech mirio, I almost killed him though

tech mirio REALLY counters overhaul

[sullen gulch]

yup

[young cypress]

Yeah that matchup is rough

But most characters don’t play well into tech Mirio, just a poorly designed character

[sullen gulch]

You cannot hit the man and even when you can you wanna avoid it because of the risk of taking 200 damage

And he still does good damage with the rest of his kit it’s so stupid

[young sun]

And then he can just do it again because what is cooldowns?

[pseudo berry]

I think you can bait his counters easiliy though if you just hold the alpha while looking straight up so the tracking doesnt fly to him and he just sees you start the alpha and throws the counter out

[noble kraken]

first win with the cyber fancy tuning, not bad

[winged helm]

Not gonna lie "BRO" this guy overhaul → is kinda bunz 🥱

my boi

should've made him RED 🤣

[young cypress]

He could use buffs but he’s not bad

[floral spoke]

Well like most assaults in mhur (other than endeavor and ochako) they take braincells to play

[young sun]

Assault Ochaco and braincells in the same context

💔💔

Qait

Nvm

I can't read

😭

[young sun]

Not sure what making him red would have done 😭

[floral spoke]

You poor soul 🥀

[young sun]

Yeah I'm still off a high from Pokémon presents

Gimmie a few minutes

[floral spoke]

The 5% strike damage bonus would've totally made a difference trust

Plus red is a cooler color

[young sun]

Blue is betta

Frfr

[floral spoke]

Hard agree. Especially a dark blue

[desert canyon]

@noble kraken can you please tell me all your overhaul combos and the one you did wit the gamma-> melee->aimied alpha is so hard how do you do the melee?

[sullen gulch]

Betta? Like beta? Like piercing dark spear?

[young sun]

YEAHHHHH-

[sullen gulch]

Cancel the gamma with an unaimed alpha and then immediately jump and air melee

As shown here

[desert canyon]

I didn't know you can cancel his gamma

[sullen gulch]

Neither until I until a bit ago

[floral spoke]

@sullen gulch HURRY UP unlock assault overhaul now!

[sullen gulch]

Why

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-marvel-rivals-marvel-rivals-captain-america-marvel-marvel-vs-capcom-gif-1012094595366376999

[young sun]

Supporthaul does just as good fr

[random lantern]

any good tunings for both assault and support overhaul on the quirk fusion costume

[warped tundra]

And only 300 hp

[noble kraken]

I beg to differ tbh, I get bullied by some fast characters like tsuyu when I'm out in the open, at least with asshaul I could have somethin to fight back

[cloud stone]

They need to buff overhaul bro

[noble kraken]

I've been mastered this combo, but I'm curious on why you just get hard knockdown before it's done sometimes, like where's this extra DP coming from https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mcUi0lw4fTuZgkt7I?invite=cr-MSxMcDIsOTM3NzgwODg&v=300

[tawny current]

I have been using all my tickets to get Assault Overhaul and he just won’t come to me 😭

[sullen gulch]

Real

[noble kraken]

swear

[rare temple]

Huh

[young sun]

The dude crashing out is killing me

[desert canyon]

Is that only possible on pc?

I cant do that on ps5

The full animation plays

[desert canyon]

Is this only possible on pc?

[desert canyon]

It doesn't work for me

Am I doing it wrong?

[hushed oxide]

How do I do this

It's not working on Xbox bru

[hushed oxide]

No someone did it on controller how idk

But for some reason I can't do it on Xbox

[sullen gulch]

You need to do an unaimed alpha and then immediately cancel it into an air melee

[hushed oxide]

I tried it but idk wsp

Like the gamma launches them up in the air doing the full animation

[sullen gulch]

Alpha as you perform the uppercut

[hushed oxide]

Can you show me?

I'ma try it again

Finna spend five hours doing this till i master it

[sullen gulch]

It’s shown here

[hushed oxide]

I'm finna show you the problem

[hushed oxide]

@redgemflame

[sullen gulch]

Are you using your alpha as you uppercut or after you uppercut

[hushed oxide]

It's the gamma putting them in the air I'm not able to do anything cuz they are in the air

[young sun]

You gotta do it really fast

Practice doing alpha cancel into air melee first

You can tell if you successfully did it if the alpha gauge went down

[sullen gulch]

I am telling you to cancel your gamma to act fast enough to air melee then before they get that high

[warped tundra]

@hushed oxide @desert canyon

There's my tutorial

[hushed oxide]

I'll try it

[sullen gulch]

Ive been saying that -_-

[young sun]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-watching-eating-popcorn-drama-gif-12252109670276761360

Visual learner ig

[sullen gulch]

They had an example

[young sun]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-i-don't-know-unsure-spongebob-friendiversary-gif-9486917737230537182

[hushed oxide]

I am but the video made me confused a little I was confused about the rang with the gamma so I kept thinking about it to much so my bad y'all

[hushed oxide]

Thank you I'm going to keep rewatching it and trying to do it

[hushed oxide]

I always do this right so I'm going to try the combo

[uncut lynx]

its because the gamma somehow has a strong downpower

so sometimes it just ends up doing 13 damage

[sullen gulch]

Gamma has 0 knockdown until the rock explodes

No knockdown whatsoever

[uncut lynx]

u definitely havent tried the gamma in matches yet

it has knockdown power idk why but it just does

[sullen gulch]

It doesn’t

[uncut lynx]

so sometimes it hits the slam part and then the rock doesnt hit

they just get knocked down

[sullen gulch]

Just straight up is has 0 knockdown until it explodes in which it’s an instant hard knock

[sullen gulch]

Because it’s bugged

[uncut lynx]

bugged?

[uncut lynx]

sometimes in matches when they get hit by other stuff a lot then i hit them with the gamma it just knocks them down

[sullen gulch]

It has issues fully connecting and air gamma often gives iframes when landing

[sullen gulch]

Theyre getting hit with something thats not your gamma that knocks them down then because again it has 0 dp until the rock explodes in which hit hard knocks

[uncut lynx]

not pretty sure if thats the case

but could be the case

[sullen gulch]

It is the case

[uncut lynx]

so it sometimes can give iframe before the rock explodes out of nowhere bc its bugged?

[sullen gulch]

Yes or they get hard knocked by something else

[uncut lynx]

why is this character so buns 💔

they should atleast give armor on the gamma

[hushed oxide]

Because they wanted to balance the character

Right about the timing part

[uncut lynx]

this character could easily be the worst character on banner if nejire wasnt a thing

[sullen gulch]

You really think support nejire is bad

[uncut lynx]

no i mean the other nejire

the support one is busted

i was talking like all banners

[sullen gulch]

Tech nejire isnt on the banners rn

[uncut lynx]

talking about all time banners

[sullen gulch]

Tech nejire wasn’t even bad on release tf??

She was widely considered to be good

[uncut lynx]

but now she is

[sullen gulch]

What is your logic rn

It’s very flawed

[noble kraken]

Tech nejire is so annoying, she’s definitely not bad, you can win with her in an ace lobby with no tuning

Her raw dmg is just that crazy, not to mention how good her gamma is at wakeup catching

[uncut lynx]

its alr if u dont get it

[uncut lynx]

literally a mosquito only used for third partying

[noble kraken]

What characters are you playing to where she’s not a problem, unless I’m in a building I usually get fried by her on supporthaul, cuz she’s just in the air all the time

[rare temple]

I practiced it on switch

[uncut lynx]

ofc it ur fighting her outdoors ur gonna get cooked with supporthaul unless you aim your alphas well

[rare temple]

If it makes you feel better Accel makes you get two unaimed alphas for free

[noble kraken]

Yeah I hate fighting her outdoors, I try to avoid it but she always somehow finds me when I’m in a barren area

[rare temple]

That's where we do a lil bit of Dunking

So a tip only few Overhauls know, if you angle a beta in any direction the do a neutral vertical jump you'll actually go higher

[noble kraken]

I don’t even have asshaul yet.

[uncut lynx]

he means support overhaul tho

[noble kraken]

I wish I did but it’s not working out, been throwing all my tickets at it

[rare temple]

Oop nvm

[uncut lynx]

with assault overhaul you can pretty easily counter tech nejire

[cloud stone]

They gotta buff my boy

[sonic cove]

I got Asshaul before pity I'm so happy 😭

[uncut lynx]

on god

[proud rivet]

Haven't played in three days

Should I bother coming back

[sullen gulch]

No

[desert canyon]

Thank you bro

Your the best

[zinc totem]

It’s been a little over a week since his release

Anyone think he’s still mid?

[proud rivet]

Yes

Very mid

He cannot confirm kills, and this hurts his best tuning

[sullen gulch]

One small alpha buff along with some bug fixes and hes fine

[warped tundra]

Yah

Clip from my TikTok that's why it got the music

Bro it didn't get the down

Fark

[young sun]

Yep

[desert canyon]

Thats so hard bro

[young sun]

You can practice doing that part first

And then practice alpha canceling after the gamma hits

And put it together

It takes practice and then muscle memory

[desert canyon]

Shii I'm just gonna play meta slop😭

[young sun]

🥀

[desert canyon]

I'm joking I'll play my goat AND WE WILL RISE TO THE TOP

[desert canyon]

@young sun it might be a pc thing

Because he's on pc uising a controller

[desert canyon]

Because their are just some things console can't do

[desert canyon]

Nice

@hushed oxide did you get it?

[young sun]

I can do it and I'm on switch

[sullen gulch]

it is possible on console

briny even said he did it on xbox

[young sun]

Absolute cinema

[desert canyon]

Idk man I can do the alpha cancel but do I have do press it during the gamma or after and I'm even moving my left stick

[young sun]

Its a precise timing thing.

Do it too soon you won't do it at all

Do it too late and you miss it

[desert canyon]

So when do I cancel it?

[young sun]

When Overhaul swipes upwards with the ground gamma.

Try around those frames

If it doesn't do the air melee it was too soon. If you whiffed it, it was too late.

Workshop and find the right timing

[desert canyon]

Oml

I did it by accident

😭

[young sun]

Ez

[desert canyon]

How many alphas can I slip in?

[desert canyon]

Thanks btw

[young sun]

One normally. You can fit 2 in with acceleration

Maybe you can do more but yhats what I've been getting

[young sun]

2-3 with accel

[desert canyon]

Thanks btw

But I think I'm doing something wrong

[desert canyon]

? Why did it send multiple times

[uncut lynx]

just spam the inputs

its literally the easiest way u can do it

spam alpha, spacebar and meelee

then when u do the air meelee just do the aimed alpha

[haughty frigate]

U can fit 2 without accel

@desert canyon

[noble kraken]

yeah fitting 2 without excel is kinda hard, I pull it off like 60% of the time in training

which is the only place I can do it cuz I don't have asshaul

[haughty frigate]

I'm pretty consistent at it, u just needa practice

[haughty frigate]

Unfort

I got lucky with getting him early and both his purs

I wish u luck on ur next 10

[young sun]

I got him first multi. But had to pity the cyberpunk fit.

Weird how that works

[noble kraken]

This is what keeps me from practicing to my full potential tbh, this where they just randomly get hard knocked at the point where I'm shooting aimed alphas https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mdhNb0xrhutEdCOac?invite=cr-MSxYSDUsOTM3NzgwODg&v=300

I did the full combo on bakugo, no problem. but deku and uraraka just decides my combo's over when they say it is 🥀

[haughty frigate]

yea really annoying when that happens hes lowkey in a fine spot rn maybe just a small alpha and beta buff and make his gamma actually consistent

I think hes pretty good and not as bad as everyone says hes just not really easy like the more recent characters

[noble kraken]

I landed it 3 times consistently here anyway: https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mdi8q5j1mbQQjyxxk?invite=cr-MSxXNUYsOTM3NzgwODg&v=32 don't have much of an opinion on asshaul as of yet cuz I don't own him, buuut he does seem just a little weak and buggy, I agree

[noble kraken]

true, idk why they're making the recent assault characters difficult to use and also a bit underpowered, but it's alright, I like them

[hushed oxide]

Yes but idk when to hit it bro

[young cypress]

What bugs have you been running into?

[young cypress]

Frame rate matters but it can be done on console

I’ll do it on Xbox later and show you

[warped tundra]

Why are you always so wobbly

[young cypress]

?

[young sun]

Mouse controls?

Or maybe gyro

[forest bridge]

Can't play gyro mode. It goes horribly wrong

[young sun]

I play gyro

I play just fine

[tepid kraken]

Can someone help me build assault?

[young sun]

What PURs do you got?

[tepid kraken]

Purs....?

[young sun]

Costumes.

[tepid kraken]

OH all but formal

[young sun]

Cyberpunk and Fusion?

[tepid kraken]

Yeah

[young sun]

Perfect there's a few good builds on Fusion. And one really good one on Cyberpunk.

[tepid kraken]

Alr lay it on me then

[alpine bay]

I would you recommend SPA reload, and QFR

[tepid kraken]

This is my current

[young sun]

This would be the Cyberpunk (Fancy) iirc

[tepid kraken]

I can get the other variations tho

[alpine bay]

Yep

[young sun]

And then for fusion, there's the hero style

[tepid kraken]

Ignore my brokie status

[young sun]

You can run SpA Reload/Revenge Tech/Fixer and revenge strike/Quick Reload

It also has a bunch of red slots

So damage go brrr

There are other good builds for fusion but I'm not well versed in those 😭

[tepid kraken]

Wait so what outfit for cyberpunk do I run?

Since I have it maxed for keys

[young sun]

If you can get the fancy style

You can go revenge tech/QFR for quick asf reloads

Or SpA Reload QFR

[tepid kraken]

I dont have yafo

[fiery ridge]

So how's Asshaul
We think he's garbage right

How garbage

[young sun]

Thats alr. Future investment

[alpine bay]

Not too garbage

[young sun]

He's underwhelming but not helplessly bad.

He just requires skill to properly do the most with.

He ain't brain dead.

[tepid kraken]

Im missing the tech denki ans yafo for this what do?

[young sun]

For the time being just save up data and resources until you can do it.

If you want we can try the fusion hero style build if you want.

[tepid kraken]

Would kuro work instead of compress? I figure extra gp is better than down hp

[tepid kraken]

I have no keys

Thats the issue

[young sun]

Yeah Kuro definitely over compress.

I just lack Kuro data

💔

[young sun]

Oof

[tepid kraken]

This is what i changed up

[young sun]

This can work yeah. If you want a tad bjt more alpha damage you can swap todo for one of the alpha powers.

[young sun]

As for the yellow villain

Just do embrit for now ig

[tepid kraken]

I doubt I'll use gamma ever ngl. Maybe js maybe

[young sun]

How often do you use melee with assault?

[tepid kraken]

Not too often. But if theyre close enough I can throw uands

[young sun]

Alright.

Cuz you could in theory get embrit that way

But I was also thinking of the build you using rn

You got OFA data for acceleration?

[tepid kraken]

No

[young sun]

Shucks

So yeah if you want you can switch revenge tech with SpA Reload if you want. But I personally swap between the two.

Depends on my mood lol

Otherwise just save up your yafo data

[tepid kraken]

Im broke broke

[young sun]

Rip

[fiery ridge]

What level path yall recommend for asshaul

[young sun]

A9, and then after that its kinda preference.

[alpine bay]

A-9 b-4 y-4 b-9 y-9

[young sun]

I go A9, G4, b4, G9, b9

[fiery ridge]

Thats what I do usually

Wanted to see what yall do

[young sun]

Yeah I like using gamma.

As often as it whiffs

😭😭🥀

[forest bridge]

I have everyone in his fusion set and formal suit built.. if you ever need help

[young sun]

I know there's a raid boss build with the default fusion. And a wallrunner willpower build iirc?

And then I got 2 builds I use with formal

One being willpower SpA and the 2nd one being SpA/Revenge Tech and Fixer

[forest bridge]

Hero is my raid boss. I do very nasty things with that set.

On default fusion I run will power and revenge assault or black arm

Fancy you can run will power and wall runner or acceleration

Dangerous you can run revenge assault and wall runner or acceleration

Black arm

[young sun]

I know there was a funny PU build with both endeavor tunings before

[forest bridge]

Yeah that's a nice combo tuning

[young sun]

Dang that reminded me I got Support Nejire today

I need to update some builds

[young sun]

264 shield and 9 extra health now I'm cooking

[forest bridge]

When I got support nejire I pitied shigi to complete the collection for now. It was clutch. I didn't get fairy style til 1800 tickets. I got miss con pur around 1900. If she didn't come out. I would've been azzed out! 🤦🏾‍♂️

[forest bridge]

She's a god!

[young sun]

Nice nice

[young sun]

Hopefully she still is when I get enough resources to make a build

Really wish I got her cyberhero fit

🥀

[forest bridge]

Let me know. I got several. And at least 2 in each pur set

[young sun]

I got superstar idol and her first one. The dress one idk what its called

[forest bridge]

Festival yukata?

[young sun]

Nah when she first released as tech

[forest bridge]

Oh that's miss con. That's the right one

[young sun]

Back in season 8

Ok yeah that kne

[forest bridge]

Get the purple dress. Run fixer and crushing pu or willpower and stack the alpha.

Night night

I'm running crushing pu. I was running willpower to be on the safe side first. But catching two plus ultra a match can really make a difference

[desert canyon]

@young cypress @young sun thank you for your help I think I have it masterd

[young cypress]

Nice!

It’s honestly just a muscle memory thing like most tech in the game

[desert canyon]

I lowkey sometimes forget to do it. But it's so difficult to land because it's the ground version

And is doesn't go as far as the air version

[young cypress]

Yeah 100% air has much better tracking

[sullen gulch]

Gamma not landing properly similar to old red shiggy gamma

[sullen gulch]

Gyro

[young sun]

Are we just the only gyro users?

Are there any other gyro users in this server?

😭

[sullen gulch]

Yeah

[young sun]

🥀

Ion see the problem with gyro 😭

[sullen gulch]

It’s overhaul it’s reasonable not to use gyro as he’s not exactly as aim intensive as other characters

Go to a shoto chat or someone that likes aim more and you’ll find them

[young sun]

I see.

[forest bridge]

That chit is hard to use. I can't control it. My daughter rocks on its

[young sun]

W

[young cypress]

Deku with permeation

[young sun]

It gets so infuriating when it keeps happening

Hopefully they fix the gamma next patch

😭

[forest bridge]

Replenish and permeation is good stuff

[sullen gulch]

nah id dodge

[floral spoke]

Danger sense is real!

[gusty egret]

Should I use him

[sullen gulch]

Yeah hes cool

[fiery ridge]

I think im learnding

[hushed oxide]

Lowkey he still needs a buff

[supple fjord]

highkey

he is weak

[forest bridge]

How much damage is that combo

[fiery ridge]

300+
Full HP Yellow Deku was killed with the assault class defense buff

[forest bridge]

One combo ko?

[fiery ridge]

Yup

[forest bridge]

I'll be working on that combo later in the training room

[fiery ridge]

Bet!

[forest bridge]

I see gamma beta combo is lethal as well

Do you even mess with that?

[fiery ridge]

Gamma beta? Yeah

It does like 200

I looked at the combo and added up the numbers
It did 335

[forest bridge]

Yeah I saw someone get a sick knockdown on a fairy neji using that combo. Grabbed her right out the sky

[haughty frigate]

Use gamma air melee double alpha instead

Hits for 380~

Also don't use gamma beta

Most the time it's not worth it

[forest bridge]

Gotcha

[rare temple]

*switch

[rare temple]

So few things

First hold forward throughout this whole thing

Wait till you see yourself send them up, then press alpha once, then jump and press Melee immediately after alpha

[young cypress]

It’s right as the uppercut makes contact, it needs to be a pretty fast input

Fast than most characters require

I’m on Xbox if you need help @hushed oxide

[hushed oxide]

I already know how to do it I just need to hit it constantly

[rare temple]

Further more you can hold the jump button while in gamma and the moment you press alpha while holding a direction and jump it'll instantly cancel it

[hushed oxide]

Mind showing?

[rare temple]

Uhhh do u have twitch

I wish I had controller overlay for a switch controller

Unfortunately I don't ☠️

WAKE UP

@hushed oxide

[warped tundra]

He just blew up bro 😭

[young sun]

If only it was tech shiggy

[forest bridge]

Sic

[fervent gazelle]

Green Overhaul ain't that good

[proud rivet]

Man someone wants to nerf assault overhaul

[young cypress]

Thas a little silly

[proud rivet]

They want to increase down power across the board

[young cypress]

He does have SOME busted stuff in his kit

[proud rivet]

He would be busted if he wasn't bugged and his moves connected like they're supposed to

and if he had 50% more alpha damage

[noble kraken]

alr let's not do that, maybe like +3-5 dmg on unaimed alpha

[proud rivet]

that would mean 6 more damage lol

[noble kraken]

idk how much more to give it tbh, my build lets it do like 13-14 iirc

[young cypress]

I don’t know if aimed alpha should do more tbh

I think beta maybe should

Idk what I’d change, the character is so borderline busted

[noble kraken]

I feel like it shouldn't, it hits for like 87 or 89 for me

more than good enough

[young cypress]

I’m mostly okay with it. I would’ve liked to see his kit pre nerf still

[proud rivet]

take a second off beta and gamma cooldown

fix beta and gamma bugs

50% more damage to unaimed alpha

allow beta to have a hitbox in the whole pillar so you can combo it directly into gamma

[young cypress]

Cooldowns might be the right place to hit

He is tough without CD tunings

Definitely suffers from not using them

[young cypress]

This is a revert of the nerf pretty much. Not sure about it

That’s a decent amount of damage

[young cypress]

This could be nice

[sullen gulch]

i dont think so because we dont wanna make unaimed alpha irrelevant

[proud rivet]

getting 18 per tick would be cool

[young cypress]

That’s a lot

[proud rivet]

at 9

would make it so its not mandatory to max first

I'd do alpha 4 gamma 4 beta 9

[young cypress]

Oh

I don’t max beta til last

[proud rivet]

I do for size and health

[young cypress]

I go gamma 4, alpha 9, gamma 9

I almost only use it for combo and mobility

[sullen gulch]

i go a9 g4 b9 g9

[proud rivet]

I don't care much about gamma ngl

gamma is for yellow cards, but if its at 3 I might spend a single level card on it

[young cypress]

I think gamma is too central to the kit to max last

[sullen gulch]

ngl i agree

[proud rivet]

at 18, it would take 5 ticks of damage to equal an aimed alpha

[sullen gulch]

i should probably change it up

[proud rivet]

I would consider it if they changed things

its so buggy I don't like casting it unless in air

[sullen gulch]

its an autotracking move that can be used with his beta we still dont wanna make it too strong

[proud rivet]

I don't think beta or gamma needs more damage

let him be an acual combo character

[sullen gulch]

i think youre over buffing alpha for what he can do

[sullen gulch]

he is

[young cypress]

Yeah he definitely is hahaha

[sullen gulch]

can you not see what he is capable off or do you still not know

[young cypress]

Having the community split on his strength is a good sign for the game health of the character

[proud rivet]

i'm saying it should be easier to connect things

[sullen gulch]

how is it hard

[proud rivet]

bug fixing would be huge, and allowing the pillar to be a hitbox itself would add another dimension that looks obvious but isn't a thing

[sullen gulch]

oh youre talking about the moves not the combos

[proud rivet]

i see almost everything differently

I can do the simple combos, but they don't feel like what you can do in other games like All's Justice or Tekken

I've seen a couple here, but they aren't true

[tidal hollow]

so when we gonna start realizing untrue "combos" are just mixups

Combos are generally something in combination

[proud rivet]

agreed

AssHaul has a lot of mixups

[sullen gulch]

and that doesnt make him a combo character??

[void sigil]

Me when I compare a combo character in a Battle Royale to the average character in a Fighting game

[proud rivet]

me when I explain beforehand

[sullen gulch]

where?

[void sigil]

Part of the reason you might be having a different experience from others is cuz of lag
The success rate of Assault Overhaul's Gamma connecting depends on lag.
I assume you play on Switch because of your roles so you already have more native lag than other platforms, and if you live in a country very far away from the server you play on, or if you just don't have good internet connection, all of that plays a part in it.

I'm on PC and when Assault Overhaul released my internet was down so I had to play on my hotspot Wifi. Only 10% of my Gammas were connecting and it felt miserable. Now my internet is back and like 90% of my Gammas are connecting now, and he feels really fun to play now that I can do Gamma combos.

So the reason you may not be connecting things is probably because of that, while other people have little problems doing so.
It absolutely is a problem that needs to be fixed soon cuz I understand how not fun it is to be unable to use your main combo and damge tool.

[young sun]

Ngl he only needs like

To do 14-15 in base damage

Cuz people are gonna alpha buff with tuning

[proud rivet]

True

I'd be fine with an extra 3

[young cypress]

Well boys

QFR is kinda cooked

[warped tundra]

I didn't have yafo so idc 😭

Now they have to manage cooldowns like me

Or load up on tech cards

[noble kraken]

elaborate.

rn.

please.

[warped tundra]

They like doubled its cooldown at all levels

[young cypress]

CD 15 > 35 seconds

[proud rivet]

Oh it was 20 seconds for me

[young cypress]

Level 10 v level 11

[proud rivet]

Yeah

It's understandable

It's a broken tuning

[noble kraken]

not that bad

[young cypress]

Hmm?

The nerf is pretty rough

[noble kraken]

well since it's a 20 sec cd, it's not horrible, though it's definitely a crazy increase in cd

20 secs for lvl 11 anyway

but for lvl 10? yeah nah

[young cypress]

No no

[noble kraken]

wrap it up

[young cypress]

Level 11 is 35 sec cooldown now haha

[noble kraken]

ohhh

[young cypress]

From 15

[noble kraken]

yeah that's bad

more than half a minute

[young cypress]

Yeah big nerf

[noble kraken]

wth do I put on asshaul's fit now 🥀

[young cypress]

I’ll be thinking about it

Maybe hyper regen and revenge tech

Could be nice

@sullen gulch thoughts on that combo? ^

[young sun]

He's still got plenty of good fits

[sullen gulch]

for asshaul im hesitant to put hyper regen on it but ive been seeing success on both overhauls with it so thatll probably be good

[young sun]

Imma go back to Revenge Tech/Revenge Strike and my SpA/Fixer builds

[young cypress]

Unfortunately it doesn’t benefit an offensive play as much as QFR

[sullen gulch]

id say try it and if its not great then just swap hyper regen for like quick reload or fixer (assuming the mini tunes are good)

[young cypress]

Yeah I’ll see how it goes

[sullen gulch]

it does let you stall your sa out longer though on characters that can gaurdbreak easily though so thats good

[young cypress]

For sure

[young sun]

Apparently quick reload doesn't infinitely reload like other alphas. It goes down to 0% before quickly come back but.

[sullen gulch]

its no constant sa heal but it is healing for gaurdbreaking an opponent which is still good

[sullen gulch]

oh i meant sa reload mb

[young sun]

Oop

All good twin

@sullen gulch thoughts on the other adjustments?

Mount Lady might be back

[young cypress]

Gonna see how QFR is feeling but if that CD is too long I’m dropping it

[sullen gulch]

very cool except iida being 300 hp now

idk why they did that

[young sun]

YEAH WHY

😭😭

[young cypress]

Tbf he needed something to not just be OFA Deku’s lil bro, but idk if health is it 💀

I think he was good after the last buff

[young sun]

I just have prejudice against that mechanical pencil looking mf

😭😭😭

The hate is generational

[tawdry sun]

What do we use now

It was like the only way to play overhaul

[tawdry sun]

It’s not a fit he has

[zinc totem]

I’m sure it’ll still be good

[spice harness]

ive had success with assault overhaul without qfr, its probably just revenge tech or revenge supp

embrittlement or accel might be the play too

[proud rivet]

overhaul not being touched is crazy

[zinc totem]

Why’s that?

[proud rivet]

the least they could have done was bugfixes

[zinc totem]

Oh like his gamma or smth

[proud rivet]

Gamma not grabbing which might be ping related

And beta instantly breaking

Shigaraki can grab you from a mile away

[young cypress]

Not quite ping lol

[proud rivet]

i hate seeing that

[young cypress]

Can anyone tell me if overhaul has a double purple outfit?

[proud rivet]

The one I use!

Give revenge tech + replenish a try

[young cypress]

I’m doing revenge tech and hyper regen

Not sure if that’s what you meant

[young cypress]

Thank you, goat

[spice harness]

im thinking of going for revenge tech + revenge support

although embrittlement or acceleration looks appealing

[young cypress]

Acceleration is good for combos

Revenge support is a solid choice but it’s just better with hyper regen

And I need reload speed on this character

[proud rivet]

High Speed Replenish

I can zip out and heal to trigger revenge again

Doesn't Hyper Regen require you getting a down?

[sullen gulch]

Just a gaurdbreak

[young cypress]

^

I think it might be the best combo with revenge tech at the moment

[proud rivet]

Ah same thing

[young cypress]

?!?!???!??

[proud rivet]

I was thinking guard break but said down

[young cypress]

Oh lmao

[sullen gulch]

That’s not close to the same thing but alr

[proud rivet]

I'm trying to move away from the reliance on damage

Been working great too

It speeds up team gp and full heals

[young cypress]

What have you been running?

Before today

[proud rivet]

That

[young cypress]

Also just remembered what replenishment was. Def works too, I debated it

[proud rivet]

I did do AFO/YAFO for a couple days

[young cypress]

I just prefer more rewarding stuff

[proud rivet]

But after Revenge Tech was pointed out, I swapped

[young cypress]

Yeah I decided to do that instead of SA reload

Character isn’t good enough at confirming a lot of downs

But now that QFR is dead, I’ll probably be experimenting a bit

anyone test if they fixed Overhaul client/server side beta issue?

And if not, can you

[forest bridge]

Wow they really broke qfr smh

[olive badge]

Y’all is black arm tuning bugged?

I put it on to test but nothing happens after “finishing attacks”

[young sun]

Executing them

Like for shield

[olive badge]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-meme-rly-really-now-reactions-gif-8235576209044338233

[zinc totem]

That’s wild

Dude permeated

[young sun]

Holy Overhaul

[tawdry sun]

Because of the change the build I like using the most is just willpower revenge tech on yellow overhaul

[bleak aspen]

Realistically he’s a hidden demon

Just a few buffs and he’d easily be top ten

[young cypress]

I’ve used willpower on overhaul, and I’m not a big fan

Like it’s a good tuning on any character, but you should be using your full heal before that procs and he just gets a little more value from other things in my experience

[tawdry sun]

It depends on the match up

[warped tundra]

So when we getting our battle style where the special action is to turn into giant monster. And we can force our teammates to fuse with us and get their quirks. Jk, we'll probably never get it because they made the four armed version a skin already.

[tawdry sun]

Acceleration
Revenge technical
Wall runer
Will power
Hyper regeneration
Special Acton reload

Best special skills for overhaul

[tawdry sun]

It would be absolute peak, but I don’t think they would do it

[tawdry sun]

I understand it it’s just maximise your heal and in situations and you normally would go down people can also just use stuff like a team heal to stay in the fight

[noble kraken]

would be peak, but mount lady's annoying enough 😔

[noble kraken]

need to find out his new best PUR, since they gutted his cyber fancy for 0 reason

[bleak aspen]

Game ragebaiting me today

[torpid pilot]

Tips for base overhaul?

[sullen gulch]

learn how to aim your beta

[young sun]

Theres a guide for him now

Go find it

[torpid pilot]

donde

[young cypress]

Look up my hero ultra rumble database

[young sun]

Killed the Bakugo twice and then killed his Dabi

[remote kraken]

Yall i got cyber punk i need tunning for assault overhual

[tawdry sun]

Not sure what you could do

[young sun]

Theres the fancy outfit

You can do SpA Reload/Revenge Tech and then QFR.

[tawdry sun]

QFR is a lot worse now

[remote kraken]

Yuh true

So that suit is kinda useless rn

I dont need embrittlement

[tawdry sun]

It’s just ok

[young sun]

True. But the other option is embrit.

[tawdry sun]

I know it just hurts overhaul a lot

[remote kraken]

Which is useless since i cant go for melees with him alot

[young sun]

You usually aren't

[remote kraken]

So what my other options

I used to run kota and wall runner for support

[young sun]

For cyberpunk?

Idk

[remote kraken]

I have cyber punk and formal

So any of those work

Yes i can buy a version with hero souls

[young sun]

You can use willpower/SpA Reload too

I sometimes use the formal combat version for a fixer build

Can be pretty good

For both Overhauls

[remote kraken]

Any build u have can help if u can screenshot them and ty

[young sun]

I don't have the default formal one in a SS I don't think? But i can grab the fixer one.

You can do fixer on the right side if you want and maybe HSR or crit perm on the left

But I wanted SpA Reload

So.

Up to you

[tawdry sun]

Acceleration and will power would make up a very good build

[young sun]

Yeah that can work too. Tbh it might be better for Assault Overhaul since it can be hard to pull KOs independently

I'm not exactly the best suited for those other builds tho

-# I never used accel or wallrunner on Overhaul lel

[remote kraken]

Is fixer actually that op man?

[young sun]

The damage is insane depending on character and buiild

But yeah

[remote kraken]

Ama do fixer

Can i switch denki with another

I dont have enough 🥲

[young sun]

For Assault Overhaul its not really that huge. You'll usually get 14-15 damage alphas. Which is 3 more per hit. But on other characters with higher damage numbers.

[tawdry sun]

Acceleration main purpose is what the fire rate you can fire more alpha during gamma and when you alpha you are faster

[young sun]

It goes insane.

[remote kraken]

So i can use another instead of tech denki in slot 10

[young sun]

If you don't got Tech Denki. You can do tech Mirio, or Nejire for Gamma reload.

[remote kraken]

Kk thx

[young sun]

Or do Aizawa or just someone there.

Yep

Alright imma sleep nkw

Its 2 in the morning

😭

[tawdry sun]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kW_XhDOWYzs?is=U_k7VcrGL_To45V5

this why i think its good

[forest bridge]

This game has shown. It likes to hurt overhaul like no other character

Run the double purple build. Afo and fixer

[warped tundra]

That was beautiful bro

Anyone else think they just turned kuro into a ranged overhaul, with everything being a two hit knockdown. Just played kuro since all these changes hes been getting and I lowk fw it

[fervent gazelle]

Slappy

[young cypress]

@proud rivet really enjoying replenishment and revenge tech

It’s a super synergistic build

[proud rivet]

Yeah!

[lament parcel]

I got Asshaul today!!!!

Nice to meet you guys.

Won my first game with him too

[proud rivet]

oh nice

[lament parcel]

He comes natural to me for some reason but... What cyberpunk should I use on him?

I got that in my first few

Right now I got the normal one with GP succ

[warped tundra]

Pc didn't give me shields or hp

[fervent gazelle]

You need muscle form to regain HP

[warped tundra]

You right I forgot

[young cypress]

Part of the reason I’m doing it is because there isn’t a tuning outfit I could have hyper regen and revenge tech on because both villain

[proud rivet]

yeah its unfortunate

[haughty frigate]

Acceleration doesnt really do much for overhaul that he can't alr do

Like the faster attack speed is nice and all but thats it

[sullen gulch]

For support yeah

[haughty frigate]

Nah for both

[sullen gulch]

Assault really likes accel

[haughty frigate]

Its easier to pop with assault

But it doesnt give him any like new combos

[sullen gulch]

It’s the same on both they both can proc it easy

[sullen gulch]

Ok?

[haughty frigate]

It doesnt make him faster in alpha slide

[sullen gulch]

It does enhance them though he can get more damage off along with having better defensive capabilities

[haughty frigate]

It doesnt make him go farther in beta

[sullen gulch]

And?

[haughty frigate]

With what

[sullen gulch]

You’re taking it at face value and not actually looking into what improves

[haughty frigate]

It improves his speed and how fast he can do the combos which is nice

Its just nothing that good

Especially since he doesnt have that good of an accel build

[sullen gulch]

Beta is a lot better as a get off me tool and it improves his alpha fire rate

[sullen gulch]

That’s just a lie

Fusion fancy and formal dangerous

[sullen gulch]

It is that good

Again you’re taking accel at face value and not actually looking at what improves

[warped tundra]

Accel goated

[tawdry sun]

Acceleration increases your fire rate of your alpha meaning gamma does break sheld nearly every time now that’s really good

Going faster and moves coming out quicker also does out the character

Support yeah it’s not very good but like wall runer you use on him

[haughty frigate]

Fusion fancy is alright its subslots aren't that good

[haughty frigate]

He already has an over 350 dmg combo of gamma consistently

[sullen gulch]

And he does more with accel

[haughty frigate]

But idt that justifies it being a slot

Idk personal opinion

[haughty frigate]

It actually doesnt

This was tested

[sullen gulch]

It literally does

I’ve used it

[haughty frigate]

What combo do u use

[sullen gulch]

You have gamma air melee alpha alpha, gamma beta hold alpha literally any combo

[haughty frigate]

Yes but all thats doable without accel

[sullen gulch]

It’s possible but weaker

[haughty frigate]

Gamma air melee alpha alpha is doable without accel

And u cant use another alpha

[sullen gulch]

Also this is wrong too

[sullen gulch]

You also get every other benefit I mentioned

You have no good reason as to why it’s not a good tune

[haughty frigate]

Alr the subslots aren't that bad I might have been looking at another skin

[sullen gulch]

If you’re talking about the only other good accel skin you’re still wrong those slots are fine

[haughty frigate]

Its an alright tune bc while yes there is benefits its not extremely helpful but that could just be from my pov

[sullen gulch]

Alright is a severe understatement

[haughty frigate]

He doesnt have another lvl 11 accel

And lvl 10 is a 20 second difference

[sullen gulch]

It’s a good tune that benefits him quite a bit

[sullen gulch]

Ok??

I fail to see your point especially since that gives him a level 11 willpower

[haughty frigate]

The difference from lvl 10 and 11 matters a lot in the grand scheme of things

[haughty frigate]

Hitting a melee happens much more frequently then getting to 1 esp on overhaul

[sullen gulch]

You think accel is bad on him because you can’t have a level 11 accel

[haughty frigate]

I think accel is worse

And id say atp its not worth it to run over another tune

[sullen gulch]

That doesn’t change the fact that willpower is one of his best tunes

[haughty frigate]

It doesnt

But the frequency is so little the cd diff is negligible

Saving 20 seconds between multiple access matters a lot

It doesnt expand his combo game

The extra bets start is very nice

And I definitely would see why you would run it