Himiko Toga

[dire raft]

😭

[last loom]

Oh
That bug

Does fixer work with toga now I wonder

[dire raft]

it would. I just don't think she's worth running fixer with

[last loom]

True
I just like a lot of damage icl

I had rapidoga doing 125 beta

[dire raft]

I just want crit perm wp toga

I didn't get the skin

[last loom]

Crit perm? I low-key thought you'd pick more of the aggro tunings
Wp I get tho

[timid egret]

Yeah I saw that 😂😭 Toga just can’t beat the bug every season allegation

[last loom]

😔

[dire raft]

on rapidga I'd rather everything I can to live

but willpower accel id a very fun one

[twilit dragon]

120 has hitbox registration issues sadly, some characters work ok on it but others lose out on damage like say strike shig alpha not hitting all the ticks

[formal vessel]

How come Toga's tunings only go to level 6?

[quasi crow]

only pur outfits (3 stars one)

can go to lvl10/11

also you need all tuning slots unlocked on the outfit to reach maxed level for special tuning

[formal vessel]

ohhh

quick reload or revenge strike?

for rapid toga

[twilit dragon]

Honestly both tunes I wouldn’t really recommend on rapid but ig revenge strike gets the most use

[dire raft]

we back in my prime!!

[twilit dragon]

Detransform combos yay

[empty drift]

Poor froppy

[buoyant vapor]

Tech lv recommended

[mortal walrus]

Situational and build differing

Alpha is v good for killing when there's no obstructions, bc it deals a ton of dmg p fast with small downpower value so it doesn't even stagger enemies you just melt them hopefully from safe distance, and has a lotta ammo

Beta is the best for movement and can make you fly upwards too so i used to upgrade it decently for charges and reload speed

Gamma is another v good dmg option so if you're not yet confident w alphas you can go w gamma max instead, but iirc beta 5 or 7 is quality of life stuff

[quasi crow]

You max alpha first

That's all u need to know

[buoyant vapor]

Ok thanks guys

[mortal walrus]

I find first learning beta for movement and catching ppl on rise more reliable, but im still a newbie and on tech toga especially

[dire raft]

level 7 alpha first*

9 is a waste of time till later on

[dire raft]

alpha 7 beta gamma to 4
then you can either go gamma 7 max beta.
or beta max, gamma 7

then you obviously just get the few levels you're missing (alpha then gamma) or level your ability cards

[quasi crow]

Wym waste of time, it's literally a power spike at 9 cause your alpha size increased

[buoyant vapor]

Thank you

[dire raft]

thats 7.

[quasi crow]

Is this a recent change or something, I'm pretty sure it's 9

Database says it 9

[dire raft]

because its lazy copy paste

from the game description

its been 7 as long as i remember

[quasi crow]

Looks like 9 to me

You can see the difference cuz the knives start appearing on top of toga at lvl9 but not 7

[dire raft]

they do that at 7...

[quasi crow]

You can literally see in the video that it doesn't 😭

[dire raft]

then your eyes are failing you

[quasi crow]

Ooooooookay, if you say so

[dire raft]

I'm just gonna assume this is another low tier player rage baiting moment

[quasi crow]

Holy ego

[dire raft]

not rlly

I just think it's funny you can be given obvious proof and still not agree

but keep wasting levels

[quasi crow]

The obvious proof of you not even testing the projectile size on a dummy when lvl9 clearly looks bigger visually?

Idk why you're even being so aggressive

If not ego then what else

[dire raft]

lolll I'm just rage baiting as I always do here

[quasi crow]

Ooooooookay, if that's what you're into

[buoyant vapor]

Anyone got any recommendations on sensitivaty on console

[frail ibex]

I use 230

[frail ibex]

I see other people in the 200-250 range too

Below 200 is way too slow imo

[buoyant vapor]

Thank you

[frail ibex]

Yeah. Let me know what you think of going into the 200s!

[buoyant vapor]

What about deadzones

I got mine at like 20

[frail ibex]

I toggled it off idk

I'm not sure if people mess with those

I turned acceleration off too

[buoyant vapor]

Understandable because I feel like it throws me off target

[frail ibex]

Yeah I'd rather just get used to where my aim goes after x amount of time without acceleration just doing whatever

[buoyant vapor]

Facts

[last loom]

Max

[buoyant vapor]

For you maybe because of pc

[last loom]

I used max on xbox

[timid egret]

Mine is also maxed but it just depends on what you’re comfortable with

[buoyant vapor]

I'll give it a shot

[buoyant vapor]

Never again

[frail ibex]

Max... Sounds tough

[last loom]

It's a personal preference
Mb bro

[frail ibex]

Are you enjoying the 200 range then?

It was Japanese players who made me aware of the 200s tbh

I'm gonna try max and see what happens

💀

[buoyant vapor]

It was

[frail ibex]

Oh yeah for the record

I'm at 220 normal mode on both and for aim mode 340

But I rarely do aim mode anyways tbh

[buoyant vapor]

I just dropped it to 200

[frail ibex]

Enjoying it?

[buoyant vapor]

I just started it I'm going to try it in a match to see how i feel about it

[frail ibex]

Alrighty

Gonna give max a shot now lmao

[timid egret]

I have mine maxed bc there’s a little trick I like to do with tech toga 😈

[frail ibex]

Surprisingly I did ok... But it was also a lot of bots

That said, I feel comfortable at around 220

[frail ibex]

Nevermind I have dead zone on 17 for some reason

I forgot

Don't know if I should change

[buoyant vapor]

Understandable

[last loom]

Deadzone in this game is ahh bro

[frail ibex]

Should I turn it off?

[dire raft]

drop it as low as you can go without stick drift. so if you have no drift at 0. go for 0

tends to be the rule of thumb in all games

[timid egret]

It’s always Alpha this Alpha that… What about Gamma?! 🤩❤️

[grizzled stone]

What'd yall suggest for both of the setups? I was thinking stuff like wallrun/accel and rapid reload? Got disguise, duffle, damaged, dark knight

[quasi crow]

Go spacehop

Rapid toga wants to be above the opponent so her beta could actually hit to confirm her bnb combo

[grizzled stone]

mind linking me the bnb?

thanks nerdddd

[last loom]

Beta alpha gamma

[quasi crow]

What they said ^

[last loom]

Easy guard break

[grizzled stone]

thanksss

what about teq

[last loom]

👍

[grizzled stone]

spacehop + accel?

[quasi crow]

I wouldn't recco accel since it's very niche and her melee is kinda bad

[grizzled stone]

gotcha

[quasi crow]

Go wallrun if you want more mobility, could always use it on rapid toga lmao. But honestly if you have the disguise outfit

Just use spacehop and willpower

She needs that survivability boost

People can just beam you during your transformation and that'll help you cheat death if they do

[grizzled stone]

im nervo to not use wallrun

[last loom]

Wall run
Or card dupe for aggro

[last loom]

And also when
Drumroll
You use your gamma

[quasi crow]

No momentum moment

[grizzled stone]

https://tenor.com/view/chrollo-lucilfer-chrollo-hunter-x-hunter-hxh-gif-24952182

[last loom]

Ochac after using her special action and one alpha:

Rapid toga after using all her gammas:

[quasi crow]

😭

[timid egret]

Honestly I would just say try whatever tuning and see if you like it

[quasi crow]

Whatever's the case, I'd always recommend space hop on both of her skillset

It's pretty much BIS tune for her

[grizzled stone]

thanks, ngl im kinda siding towards blue just so i can switch accel and wall run around i think

[quasi crow]

Accel is niche as I've said due to the condition of it's proccing and how bad ur melee is

[grizzled stone]

damn

so wall run vs willpower

[quasi crow]

And wallrun isn't as good as u think, the sooner you take it off the better you'll get with her, positioning and CD management wise

It won't help you chase any rapids though, that's for sure

You're better off trying to catch them during their wakeups

[grizzled stone]

?

which one

[quasi crow]

Check for normal slots

I only have disguise so I use that

[frail ibex]

What's the best cyberpunk builds

That's the only one I got

[twilit dragon]

I'll still shill wallrun for being good for juking and preserving gamma charges on rapid cuz CDs start again when you touch the floor and walls

Don't sleep on it but it's not for making distance I can tell you that

[quasi crow]

Oh that's fair, hits deffo good for jukes

I'm just sayin it's not as good as others cuz it doesn't provide immediate value

[twilit dragon]

It's a top 5 toga tune imo cuz wallrun on some transformations are still very appreciated

But it's a playstyle thing so I wouldn't say it's for everyone either ofc

[twilit dragon]

Also Knight since you have it is a good option for lvl 11 spacehop since games can last a while now

[dire raft]

space hop on rapidga is god awful.
knight is a tech toga skin

wall run is moreso the play for rapidga. but even then I just run willpower+ filler (depending on your skins you can go wall run, accel, crit perm etc

[dire raft]

heat with crushing pu/willpower card dupe

[mortal walrus]

actually how scary would tech toga w electrification be

like, electrification AND whatever was called alpha recharge special slot

[twilit dragon]

Not as good but better on her than rapid at least

It makes people want to approach toga less but it's not going to change anything for people that get damage from range anyways, best use case is as protection or like roll catching during beta but otherwise she doesn't capitalize on it much

[mortal walrus]

hmmm fair, just thought abt smth sinister to do with alpha only killing, bc it doesnt stagger - but electrification actually does, so they don't smash your face while you're alphaing them 🤔

[twilit dragon]

That works in cases you're close, I've done it once or twice but most people were smart enough to not get close if I didn't myself already

[ivory veldt]

Using Toga Glitch on cheater is so funny 😂 😂

[odd crystal]

why do y'all do this. running into so many toga bug abusers, really makes me hate her https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/muedinvPRVdPTOTpM?invite=cr-MSxsbmosOTM3NzgwODg&v=24

[stray brook]

@proud forge

[torpid hemlock]

Remove the character that's all I can say

They cant fix her

[twilit dragon]

Bug is more caused by changing how grabs work this season than specifically being a Toga issue, she can just exploit it cuz they never stress test Transform but sure let's just go scorched earth ig. Delete the character when the issue is the rushed job when they keep making changes

https://tenor.com/view/uraraka-ochako-school-girl-cute-gif-20858281

[frail ibex]

When will they hire us to stress test

I would gladly stress test and ban cheaters for 4 hrs a day

[twilit dragon]

Dealing with the symptom than addressing the cause even when we know it is clearly the smart thing to do

[twilit dragon]

That would be peak tho

[sand zodiac]

Can someone explain how she bugs people into being frozen

[odd crystal]

transform into anyone that has a grab, use the grab, de-transform mid grab

that simple

[sand zodiac]

Ruining a good character when all they need to do is remove that ability while grabbing

[odd crystal]

dealing with the symptom would be ez tho tbh, I'd just remove her ability to de-transform while in the middle of a grab animation

[royal plume]

You take away his combos if you do that

They should just reverse whatever they did with Kirishima, Bakugo, and Ochako's stupid patch.

[twilit dragon]

Dealing with the symptom is exactly why you see them "fix" stuff like infinite recipro just for another method to appear the next season. or how Nagan flight had to get two patches instead

Dealing with the core issue is wayyyy more worthwhile, like say this season where they fixed and unified all tuning functionality for toga and she's all the more intuitive for it now

"Delete" toga is just reactionary and temporary while not actually learning from mistakes and next thing you know Monoma or AFO etc. is the glitch junkie now

[empty drift]

That would remove alot of her blood combos ands it's only a bug that appeared this season

It never did this before

[odd crystal]

I know it's never done this before, I'm not new. Just tired of losing 1000+ elo to it everytime I run into a toga, they've got no shame about using it.

[prisma cedar]

Hey toga mains, I'm starting to main tech toga since she is so fun! Are these two builds I made good for her? And any tips would be much appericated!

[last loom]

It's cooked

[marble saddle]

Yo, is the thing where the gamma hits but doesn't register actually a window to hit them with alpha and get their blood?

Cause I did that just now and idk if I'm tripping

[twilit dragon]

Gamma has a blood load time so I'm guessing it was that but delayed since you said it hit but didn't register

[polar thunder]

how worthwhile is using spiraling leap on tech toga?

[quasi crow]

It makes you extremely floaty if you're into that

Just run spacehop, it's way better

[mortal walrus]

mann tech toga is so op in control battle gamemode

[vital tide]

Y'all is cyberpunk heat still a top tier tuning?😭

I just pulled it

Only other ones I have is suit and duffle coat

[quasi crow]

on which toga

[mortal walrus]

im so confused in this thought, if i chug blood of a transformed toga what happens for my spa result?

[dire raft]

good for techga (you'd be better going with suit or duffle tho. for space hop willpower/space hop accel. imo if you're good at aiming your alpha)

top tier for rapid

[vital tide]

Ok yeah I was planning on using rapid

[vital tide]

You turn into the person that they were transformed as, not toga herself

[mortal walrus]

Oooh nice

[empty drift]

They gotta buff rapidga movement

More than 20+ non rapid characters have mobility better than her

[last loom]

We've been saying this.... But they don't care

We gotta spam ts idk if it doesn't mean anything

[royal plume]

I think Blue Toga needs a rework

[empty drift]

Scrumptious pfp

I'm honestly ok with a rework

Had a few ideas in mind

Just gotta get illustrations

[twilit dragon]

I mean the CD management is kinda the point when resets exist imo but the rest I agree the inertia buff would be nice

https://tenor.com/view/uraraka-ochako-school-girl-cute-gif-20858281

[empty drift]

Doing that freezes you in place leaving you open and even then toga aint got blood 24/7 nor is it as easy to get as techga

[royal plume]

Maybe, but then they should add I-frames.

[twilit dragon]

I don't have an issue with that as a weakness and I've been playing with it for over a year now, makes me think more commital when I play and I like that challenge. The issue isn't that she has openings imo it's that she gets punished too much for trying to engage which is why I prefer the Inertia and/or 300HP buff

Restrictions are part of the fun

[empty drift]

I would also like armor on gamma

Sometimes it's heavily inconsistent, it either only does the 1st part or does both but no dmg

You also get characters like tech bakugo who can easily knock her out of gamma with 1 alpha

[dire raft]

I think armor as a get out of jail free card always is silly

just improve the hit registration and it's stun reliability when you hit the first part

[royal plume]

I agree

The problem is that sometimes the hit isn't registered, leaving you vulnerable to the enemy.

[dire raft]

especially on higher ping or Vs armoured moves

you just slowly track them and get one tapped on arrival

[royal plume]

It would be nice if its beta version were like AFO's, allowing you to paste it wherever you're viewing, because its current beta version is completely useless with characters that fly... or even just move slightly above it.

[empty drift]

I would also like her beta inertia/kickback to be similar to tech bakugo

If it ruins combos then make it only apply on held beta

[mortal walrus]

Is hitbox of prolonged tech toga beta actually small huh? It looks like wide, but it is rare for me to hit opponents that i like barely zoom by almost touch but not look at them

[rocky pasture]

would i be crazy if i put reinforced revive on tech toga ?

[rocky pasture]

she has the coolest animations though 🙂

[empty drift]

Imk thats tech bakugo

[mortal walrus]

No, other than revive chars you can only use it on helping downed rise id guess

So thats actually a good decision ngl

[empty drift]

No since they fixed tunning
And toga can transform onto any character to utilize it

[rocky pasture]

fair, i love her gamma beta … the animation is so sick

[twilit dragon]

It's better in stack/scrim lobbies where there's a lot of insta revives to take advantage of.

[last loom]

Gg

[wraith briar]

what’s yalls tuning for tech toga?

[dire raft]

space hop crit perm usually

[wraith briar]

what costume?

[mortal walrus]

HEY GUYS HOW BAD IS THE VISION:
all beta dmg+ tunes
tech toga
counterpoint: this damn costume :(

@stray brook

[empty drift]

U don't got a pur

[stray brook]

Oke hi I finally see it as I woke up ^^
Normally I wouldn't tune outfits other then pur, but if u don't have any purs and want to play Himiko then I'd say it's a good enough choice. Beta DMG is very good imo, since beta is your main source of DMG when close up. The special tuning won't be too bad either, depending on what u chose ofc

Overall, aim to get pur if u don't have any, but for now this can do

[mortal walrus]

Yea i have none

[stray brook]

Then IMO its the best option u have rn

[last jay]

Guys

[vital quiver]

is the pirate outfit good for tuning

[stray brook]

Yes it seems to have good tuning options

[dire raft]

accel/wall run willpower goes hard with it

especially for rapidga if you're good with blood

[vital quiver]

does acceleration on toga carry over to her transformations?

[dire raft]

all tunings do now

they finally fixed her

[vital quiver]

even reinforced revive?

because how it used to be was reinforced would only work if the transformation also had reinforced

[dire raft]

yes

everything works now, no more of those awkward interactions

[sterile obsidian]

@empty drift

son

[empty drift]

[winter cedar]

Is rapid toga any good?

I just got her off the character ticket but my friends are telling me she's mediocre

[mortal walrus]

Practice aim and the spamming accurately at your enemies

And ig i can give one advice, try to accurately spam all your abilities at enemy, gain their blood, having gained their blood think of their char skills and choose 1 to use against them during Transform, then fulfill the plan, and transform back to rapid toga skillset, and spam all skills again

Both togas get cds instantly reloaded after transformation removal

But, finding what abilities of your enemies you could use well against them is an important skill for rapid toga

[mortal walrus]

So that's my perceived best advice

Practice with one taken skill first, well, potentially you can learn about what chars do before playing for that too, but after a bit you can probably get better w this and think of adding more skills into your combo

[winter cedar]

Alright then, thanks for the help👍

[jovial halo]

Who am I giving advice to

[mortal walrus]

^^^ the shatter box

[jovial halo]

You're gonna want to make your tunning based on your beta

Beta and gamma

Especially if you plan to actually use her ability to transform

[winter cedar]

Alright, I assume the tuning I have set for her will transfer over when I transform?

[mortal walrus]

Yep, and they fixed special tunes too ^^^ it seems bc of the previous convo here, so you can run reinforced revive and actually revive allies w full gphp and so on interactions

[jovial halo]

Wow even I didn't know that

[mortal walrus]

It's actually very disorienting and impressive when a Toga ally uses a trick in their sleeve, a Kurogiri or other Support blood and you're revived, god knows where, and not dead, but you know you DON'T HAVE A KUROGIRI IN YOUR TEAM, and my mind goes back to think of the mis-reviving bugs in previous seasons of mhur like war flashbacks
So confusing, but effective

[mortal walrus]

220 beta dmg lvl9, 108 gamma dmg lvl9

[timid egret]

I love doing this, it’s so satisfying! 😈❤️

[mortal walrus]

Ooo, you have a gamma dmg max build?

[timid egret]

Yeah I do

[mortal walrus]

How much dmg does it do on lvl9?
I kinda just made a beta minmax, but its not PUR, so no lvl 4s and no fixers

[timid egret]

No tuning it does 90 dmg and with 2 strikes 96 dmg

The one I’m wearing in that clip it does 108 dmg lvl 9

[mortal walrus]

Uh
My current build does 108 lvl 9 too, no gamma upping

Ah I can potentially make 5 gamma tunes here

[timid egret]

Oh yeah you could

Can save data for tech Bakugo if u want to focus gamma

Or tamaki

[mortal walrus]

This was my go to, kinda alpha focused

[timid egret]

Are you going to save for a PUR?

[mortal walrus]

But really, idk which slots i need for alpha minmax

Honestly nah, its unlikely if i get her pur skins off rate

This looks soooo satisfyyyiinnnggg.

[timid egret]

This was my first baby tuning set I used for toga 🥹

I miss when tech toga’s gamma could do 120 dmg at lvl 9 bf they shadow nerfed it 🥲

[empty drift]

It's been awhile since I've played tech but she absolutely shreds

What's the lv up path

Rn am doing g4 a4 b4 then 9a

[last loom]

Do you want the sane one

Or sweat one

[twilit dragon]

Generally just alpha or bust. Alpha 7-9 ideally before focusing everything else

[dire raft]

alpha 7. beta and gamma 4.

then you either max beta, or do gamma 7 max beta

[empty drift]

Thx yall

Kinda sad how tech out bests rapid

[winter cedar]

I kinda wish they gave rapid the inertia change they gave out to people like rapid all might

[last loom]

Me too kid.... Me too

[winter cedar]

Level up path for rapid toga?

[twilit dragon]

G4 > A4 > B4 then I go either:

G9
or
A9 > G9

Mostly my preference for gamma but G4 first is the only hard rule imo

[last loom]

Guys...

We might be back

[twilit dragon]

Welcome buff for once

https://tenor.com/view/himiko-toga-gif-18295933

[empty drift]

Finally

[empty drift]

Rapid toga hp got buffed and ppl are complaining 💔

[last loom]

Eh

Rapids should be fast

[empty drift]

True

[odd crystal]

the buff is good

[late walrus]

She needs a serious buff. Like compared to a lot of the main characters and villains, she is just bad. Like please give her something to compete with all these other characters

[winter cedar]

I feel like all she needs If anything is like

Inertia on her gamma to give her better movement like almost every other rapid has

And maybe buff her alpha damage a bit

Her kit feels very outdated compared to almost every other rapid

[empty drift]

Would make her feel more strike and make her guardbreak combo even more dangerous b>a>g

Somethings I would love for rapid are

3 gamma charges at lv1
Inertia on gamma

But if we want to make her 250 then inertia on gamma, increased range, more kickback on bea if held or extra direction options and the ability to wither zigzag with gamma or cancel it early

Oh gamma consistency and allow it to cancel armored moves since it is technically a grab

Maybe even 3 beta ammo at lv9

[timber minnow]

[dire raft]

let her aim beta upwards

it has mid range and In this meta I'd say it's totally fine when it's a combo starter

[cerulean arrow]

thats actually a great change

[novel salmon]

agree

[dire raft]

mirko gonna have some fun asf blood combos

[twilit dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/tomodachi-life-tomodachi-life-living-the-dream-tomodachi-true-tomodachi-life-meme-gif-4819023103161939020

[last loom]

Guys

WE NEED INERTIA

they are giving it to literally everyone else

[empty drift]

#submitted-feedback

The devs seem to be reading it as seen in the patchnotes

Tho ofc keep in mind just because you make a feedback doesn't mean the devs owe you whatever you said its just something to consider

[last loom]

Obviously

[empty drift]

Not to some

[quasi crow]

Really funny how everybody and their momma got their mobility option buffed (even yallmight)

But rapid toga still get nothin

They really hate her

[royal plume]

[mellow shadow]

She died in the anime for a reason, so of course they would make her bad

[meager arch]

How good is Cyberpunk (Heat) for Tech Toga?

[dire raft]

it's good but I'd rather give her space hop ngl

[empty drift]

[mellow shadow]

She's actually cool, Toga isn't

[empty drift]

Art by me,
I'll just leave this here.

[last loom]

W art

[dire raft]

I got bored

[last loom]

All of that for your gamma to no reg and nagant to kill you during the no inertia animation

[dire raft]

💔💔💔

[vital fjord]

Peak

When more Toga content in #1233264725773516820 channel

[marble saddle]

Ong bro

[royal plume]

Was anyone else expecting a Toga skin this season?