Himiko Toga

[dire raft]

crushing pu and I used to run sisterly but not really worth it anymore honestly. could do rev assault, even tho it only works while as toga it's solid. or even symbol of peace. but I will say yellow endy will end up being very strong I think

more pu duration

[mint star]

Same I need any rapid toga tips cause I feel useless playing her

I have better luck using tech toga

[narrow topaz]

Real

[twilit dragon]

@rancid spade That's how I level rapid toga

And the normal tunes I usually like putting the alpha/gamma attacks on a level 4 slot where possible

[rancid spade]

Thank you

[mighty yew]

Sorry for the late reply, but any particular costumes should do? also, what’s good on which Skill set

[mint star]

Got pirate and immediately put trance and wall run on

[severe cypress]

Can someone show me the best rapid toga build I only have the Duffy coat and cyberpunk

[vagrant pier]

use inspo from this build

[vagrant pier]

depends on costumes u have

[mighty yew]

All of them minus pirate and suit

[twilit dragon]

Oh yeah then Cyberpunk heat or Knight default and Duffle Dangerous are good options

[mighty yew]

Which one for which skill set?

Or are both of them good with these?

[twilit dragon]

All are pretty good on both tbh

Rapid gets more out of Cyberpunk probably

[dire raft]

W scrims

milked the ibara in team 2 like 3 times for 3 different double rezzes.. 😭 even camped her building on chaos city to take it again LMAO

[prisma axle]

Do you have clips of it

[rancid spade]

What are some Rapid Toga combos?

[glossy steeple]

beta gamma beta one alpha gamma and she has transform combos

[glossy steeple]

^

[rancid spade]

I tried the Beta, Gamma and Beta, Alpha, Gamma already but I can't manage to pull it off

[mint star]

Do you have a vid on what this looks like in practice

[twilit dragon]

My girl tech toga still got it

(That match was pain)

[nova oriole]

well done, love the skin as well 💕

[glossy steeple]

i can send it tmr i thought i replied to this already

i gotcha tmr

[mighty yew]

Any aim tips on rapid toga or am I cooked?

[stoic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-tm-opera-o-uma-musume-tmoperao-laughing-gif-8578098772917498051

[mighty yew]

If you’re about to say what I think you’re about to say no… not yet

[stoic crown]

To get better at toga

First

Play compress

[nova oriole]

you

go back to your compress realm

[foggy breach]

That skin is too cute, curse mods not being able to be used on consoles 😔

[foggy breach]

My sense with her is generally around 135 Y and 145 X, I feel like that’s where I’m able to hit most of my combos as well as raw gamma, so sens is definitely one, and the other I guess is using her a lot, you’ll be in more situations where you know what to do and how to improvise, it will help aim along the way.

[twilit dragon]

Fr, it's a shame people miss out on this

[stoic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/tm-opera-o-uma-musume-movie-beginning-of-a-new-era-animation-gif-14177560997598249452

[nova oriole]

i will find you

[sweet rune]

Anyone got a good build for rapid toga?

[mint star]

Im jus using trance and wall runner

[sweet rune]

Thanks

[vagrant pier]

just do a simple beta alpha gamma

[rancid spade]

Oh yeah, let me make it even more difficult

[rancid spade]

Does anybody have a Toga matchup tierlist?

[twilit dragon]

Idk about anything definitive cuz I haven't thought too much about it. I can try say generally from my experience what they're like tho

[rancid spade]

Okay

[atomic ermine]

i mean i think she doesn't really have one because once she gets their blood then its ggs depending on skill level

but i could be wrong

anyone with a shield could be annoying to get blood from tho

[atomic ermine]

how do you do this 😭

[mint star]

Any of the pirate toga recolors good?

[twilit dragon]

I'm hard carried by wall run and space hop tbh

[twilit dragon]

Post gamma tracking nerfs you can add characters with dashes to that list

[vital tide]

I wanna tune rapid toga but I only have her suit and duffle coat skins 😭, can I do anything with that?

[severe cypress]

When are we getting this skin

[vital tide]

TRUE, fire skin

[edgy haven]

What are some tips for Rapid Toga and what's some good tuning for her?

[lilac burrow]

What's Toga's best build rn?

[mint star]

Rn I’m using willpower and wall runner for her in tunings

[humble needle]

Non Tuning related question, but what's your guys favorite Toga Skin? Me personally I love the Dangerous Pirate Variant

[twilit dragon]

Probably between dangerous duffle, fancy cyberpunk, hero damaged and default Pirate. Hard to choose

[humble needle]

I love the dangerous duffle variant but I can't roll the regular duffle 😭

[old fable]

Level up tips?

[edgy haven]

Rapid or tech?

[vagrant pier]

for rapid i reccomend gamma 4, alpha 4, and from there u can max out alpha or make beta 4 and then max out alpha

for tech probably gamma seven

and then it rlly depends on ur playstyle after that

[edgy haven]

Tech I do (B-9 / A-9 / Y-9) But it depends on how you play her, For rapid (A-4 / Y-4 / B-9 / A-9 / Y-9) But again depends

[old fable]

Rapid

[edgy haven]

Sorry I pressed enter on accident

[lilac burrow]

@dire raft What build you running on Toga?

[dire raft]

there's a few notable ones depending on what skins you have, but cyberpunk heat is a primary one. with card dupe and crushing pu
but I do run a weird crushing pu wall run/muscle form build but muscle only works if you trigger it as toga. weirdly useful still.
but I'd always suggest cyberpunk for anyone as a baseline

[lilac burrow]

I only got her pirate, fantasy and damaged. That old tuning with the dangerous version of damaged 😕
Any version of these outfits could be a good replacement? I mainly play blue

[dire raft]

do pirate then. crushing pu wall run

[nova oriole]

#submitted-feedback for my tech toga players

[humble needle]

I feel like it'd be cool if, while transformed, Toga could do enemy pings, it doesn't really change much but it would mix up her gameplay since she could make fake danger pings

[solemn gulch]

which tuning work while u are still transformed?

[mint star]

I uh know wall runner do

[vital tide]

I thought willpower did

Card duplication works, I low-key don't know any others tho

[dire raft]

wall run, sisterly, reinforced revive. I believe card dupe and crushing pu can but it's 50/50, can't remember if you need to finish as toga or not. but those are the main tunings you should run

[solemn gulch]

I heard reinforced revive works

[rough tulip]

should you use crushing pu even if you can't guarantee downs all the time? i was thinking of running willpower instead since the low health means i get downed easily

[dire raft]

won't work while transformed but it's a valid option if you play around it. I'm comfortable getting downs so I prefer it

[rough tulip]

Oh, I see, thank you

[twilit dragon]

To add to the list the resist skills work too but they're bad so ignore them

[twilit dragon]

Willpower and muscle form sadly don't if I remember right

[worthy star]

Rapid toga combos and lvl up order and tips

[solemn gulch]

Ngl very playstyle and Mu based but probably just alpha > gamma > beta to start

[worthy star]

Mu based?

[solemn gulch]

Matchup based

I.e with tons of grounded characters, you might want more beta. Vs flyers you might want another gamma charge

[worthy star]

Oh

But what are the combos

And any good tuning?

[vital tide]

Best and go to is beta, alpha, gamma

Others will likely depend on situations or if you wanna use blood to extend the combo

[mint star]

Combos idk but I usually go gamma 4 and then focus on alpha

[vital tide]

I do gamma 4, alpha 9, beta 4, gamma 9, beta 9

[versed swallow]

alpha > gamma (risky, cuz they can dodge the gamma. might aswell do raw gamma if u cant do beta and cant spam alphas)

beta > alpha spam while aiming at the person (can knock down sum 1 if u hit enough alphas but leaves u exposed. But good for team fights because you can poke multiple people with the alphas and still have your gamma left to chase)

beta > gamma (reliable and quick combo that can get you blood and mainly use for 1v1's)

beta > alpha > gamma (only do this if you have a clear view of your opponent so you can successfully hit it. You have to be very fast because they can dodge this combo, and I would only recommend doing this in 1v1's because it's a bit long and you are left exposed after the gamma. same with the beta into Gamma, try to only use these two combos in 1v1's. As I said before, in team fights do Beta into alpha spam or just alpha spam)

For the last combos, you can just integrate the character you have transformed into, with rapid toga's abilities. for example yellow deku beta into rapid toga gamma, strike dabi beta into rapid toga gamma, strike shigaraki gamma into rapid toga gamma, etc. experiment cuz some combos don't work.

also another tip, be smart about how long you are transformed because sometimes, you transforming just disadvantages you because maybe the kid you are transformed into won't help you in the situation. So mainly transform only to de transform quickly to reset her cool downs

The level order that I use varies but every rapid toga means know that you always start with g4 for the third charge.

But otherwise I do
g4 a9 b9 g9 if I'm feeling confident with hitting my beta (cuz it will stay at level one for a long time)

or g4 a4 b4 a9 b9 g9 if I want to be sure to hit my betas (cuz beta is bigger at level four)

or g4 a4 b4 a9 g9 b9 (if I am confident in hitting my raw gammas)

but I recommend the second one for new players, because most of the time you are going to only be able to spam your alphas if you are not in the face of an opponent. People really underestimate rapid togas alpha, because a common play you can do is just to go over someone's head and just spam your alpha if you don't have any other abilities available. Or if there are tons of people and you just spam alpha from a bit far away without having to engage with your beta or gamma. i've done that a lot

sorry for the whole essay but I hope this helped because I am a rapid toga main

but I still struggle myself with knowing when to transform and instantly de-transformed for cool and refreshes or to stay transformed to utilize a new set of abilities. To be honest rapid toga just seems like support/ character that pokes people. But she is deadly in 1v1's. The only problem is that she can easily be targeted in team fights because her moves are easily punishable. With her beta making her stay still in the air and her gamma making her stop for a second at the end, and her alpha making her walk slow.

but if someone is chasing you just try to turn around quickly and hit them with a beta combo, for example a beta gamma combo and quickly turn into them, use their ability to run away and then transform back into toga to then have your cooldown refreshed and continue to run

[worthy star]

So how do her special action rlly work if I transform into someone how do I transform out

[nova oriole]

crouch twice

[worthy star]

Ok

Any good tuning for rapid toga

[versed swallow]

I'm using card dupe and symbol of piece (60% PU at the start of the match). Idk if there are any good tuning especially for her but maybe things that help her with longevity (staying alive for as long as possible), and maybe to get her powerful

[worthy star]

What about fixer

[versed swallow]

fixer is good but what quirk would u focus the upgrades on? I would recommend alpha and gamma tbh

u can also use wall runner, u can make confusing plays with her and if u dont have gamma u can use wall runner. idk if u can use ur tuning while transformed

ask somebody

[worthy star]

That what I was thinking

Maybe alpha

[surreal coral]

Thinking of playing rapid toga

I want all the tips and tricks

[surreal coral]

Sure is quiet in here

[humble needle]

Spend some time in training getting used to her Beta. It's her best combo starter and can be tricky to land. Rapid Toga is good at Midrange fighting but she also can easily get overwhelmed so you should always go into fights trying to get as many hits as soon as possible, also, don't use all your gammas trying to stab an opponent or you'll lose mobility.

[surreal coral]

Ty

W pfp

[humble needle]

Np, her Alpha is also pretty good at comboing with teammates since it has a lower knockdown value so you can get 1 or 2 in if your teammate gets a grab, but if your teammate gets grabbed or an endeavor or amajiki go for a cannon it's better to use your gamma since it'll pull them out of it

[brisk crow]

why does when you transform as toga your tuning changes like its rlly pointless bc you cant use other players tuning and theres only limited tunings that work for toga

[nova oriole]

@dire raft heyyyy what have you been doing with amajikis blood, i keep running into a lot of them and dont know what to do with his kit?

ive been trying to incorporate more detransform combos into my gameplay. theyre really fun on rapid toga.

[dire raft]

usually his bnb combos of alpha grab into beta (special action between if you want)
but if you want blood momentum, alpha grab special action into toga gamma works
or I would assume alpha into toga alpha gamma

then ofc just using tamaki gamma for zoning through walls

[surreal coral]

Or confirming downs

It's great at that

Does toga as other characters count for notebook?

[dire raft]

yes but I'd rather confirm downs with toga gamma after alpha shredding in most cases if possible. just for momentum

[dire raft]

nop

[nova oriole]

thank you!!!!

[surreal coral]

From a long range tho the beam works

[dire raft]

ye

[nova oriole]

alright it looks like for the detransform combo the most you can squeeze in is aimed in alpha, melee, special action, into toga gamma

pretty neat!

[dire raft]

yea it's the most consistent

[sour knot]

How do u play aggressively with rapid toga

[rough tulip]

That's what I'm having trouble figuring out too

I try to play aggressively, but then I just get deleted

[twilit dragon]

You can be aggressive but it's just a matter of picking your fights since she's prone to blowing up in this meta given all the AoE and strike teams

Ideally hold back a bit and scan for people not in the center of a chaotic circle and for matchups that give her less resistance first

[worthy star]

Can someone help me practice my rapid toga in game?

[remote glade]

Tech toga level up guide?

[remote glade]

and what are the best special tunings for her?

[vagrant pier]

it rlly depends in ur playstyle imo

i usually do gamma 7 and then beta 9

i dontr lyl use her alpha

[vagrant pier]

what costumes do you have

[stoic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/tm-opera-o-uma-musume-movie-beginning-of-a-new-era-animation-gif-14177560997598249452

[nova oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-escapes-from-the-hand-dog-side-eye-gif-11122278105679665117

[mighty yew]

Is anyone else getting forcibly transformed as toga?

[twilit dragon]

If you hold gamma with blood stocked you auto transform at the end of it with rapid toga

[remote glade]

Like an Offensive playstyle for high damage

[remote glade]

What playstyle is that for?

[remote glade]

why not?

[remote glade]

At the moment I don’t have any PURs for her. But I can pity one of her costumes from the banner . Since it’s a new character I’m trying out rn , I don’t know if I wanna fully commit to spending resources on her

But I am having fun playing her

[vagrant pier]

uhh general if u wanna transform fast and use her beta for dmg thats the level up plan

[vagrant pier]

if u do get pity use cyberpunk since the pink version is really good for her

[mint star]

Tech toga alpha is fun to melt people with

Then downing into beta 😮‍💨

[twilit dragon]

In that case alpha maxing is for you

[remote glade]

Oh okay thanks everyone

Also is it easy to melee with toga? How do you guys make use of the melee special tunings?

[nova oriole]

eh

its not the worst but its not the greatest

i usually try to copy characters with grapple moves so i can melee with their kit instead

[remote glade]

Omd thats so smart

i didnt even think about transofmed characters melees

thats actually genius

so the melee tuning still works when transformed?

Wait do all tuning still work when transformed?

And what if the player you transform into already has 2 special tunings?

does it stack?

[twilit dragon]

It’s inconsistent sadly

Trance works all the time fortunately but embrittlement only works on normal toga for example

[twilit dragon]

Also nope, it’s just a visual thing since toga’s tunes take priority or don’t work buuuuuuut there are weird cases like high speed replenishment that only works transformed if the person you copied also has the tune

[worthy star]

Who can help me practice rapid toga in game

[heavy valley]

my favorite character show and in-game is toga and idk if its just me but i wish they made a toga skin were shes in a hoodie 😅

[nova oriole]

had to pity but finally

i now have peak toga drip

[heavy valley]

nice 🙂

[twilit dragon]

I also had to pity it, weird that like everyone else I know that got it had to pity it too 💀

[nova oriole]

dude i got her skillset 3 times and rapid bakugo twice

both of which i already owned

i really wanted to save tickets for upcoming characters, but there goes 1000 LOL

speaking of rapid bakugo i hit this with his blood last night. this combo is so satisfying.

[twilit dragon]

Funny enough I got Bakugo costumes instead, I think this was a baku banner in disguise

Also nice gamma > alpha

[remote glade]

Ah that sucks

So what are her best tunings?

[worthy star]

Who can help me practice rapid toga in training later

Why is beta alpha alpha and gamma hard to hit

[twilit dragon]

Probably Wall Run, Crushing PU/Turbo, Reinforced revive (situational), Card Dupe and honorable mention to muscle form and trance blow and maybe ability manifest idk I don't have Tamaki

But other tunes still can work just depends on what you're willing to work with

Revenge skills are iffy for me tho since they don't work transformed

[twilit dragon]

Probably the downpower nerfs some time ago are the reason

But it's also not a true combo tbf

[inland sedge]

What are some good costumes to tune rapid toga?

I have the disguise damaged and the dark night assassin skins

[twilit dragon]

Disguise fancy, damage Combat and dangerous, dark night default and fancy are pretty good

[mellow forge]

Why does her rapid do so much damage and her combos like nerf this girl

[remote glade]

Does toga get Iframes right when she transforms?

[surreal coral]

I heavily doubt it

[remote glade]

Is there any hidden tips / tricks / tech i should know about for tech toga as a new toga player

[twilit dragon]

She has when she detransforms actually

[twilit dragon]

I'll just leave you with a trick I do. Gamma one person then gamma another person and transform quickly before getting blood from the second person and you'll use the first person's blood instead. It's nice if you want to be picky of who you copy in a group fight while adding in a little more damage

[young warren]

definitely putting indestructible back on

[rough tulip]

She doesn't-

In a match earlier today, I got Tamaki blood, but everytime I tried to transform, he'd hit me the second I transformed into him and it'd knock me out of the transformation

[atomic ermine]

they should seriously consider this

also are there any good tunings for tech toga that you lot recommend? i have all costumes except the dark night and the damaged one

[remote glade]

Ohhhhhh yeah that’s where I saw it happen

Do you know how long she gets immunity for? Or which part of the animation?

[remote glade]

So wait let’s say you gamma a dabi. And you have the dabis blood. And then you use a gamma again but on a froppy. You transform into dabi first and then the second gamma should have hit? So do I still get the froppys blood when I’m transformed into dabi? Or do I have to quickly untransform after transforming into dabi to get the froppy blood?

[remote glade]

Yh , it’s when she detransform actually

[remote glade]

I know right. Even a few frames of immunity can be very handy

[twilit dragon]

not quite, when the second gamma hits Tsu and you time your transform just after it hits her while you had the dabi blood then you can transform and use dabi since there's a slight delay where the game is still loading the Tsu blood for you. So the Idea is to transform during that window

[twilit dragon]

Also idk how to point to a specific frame but it's the part where the game is re-loading toga in

[remote glade]

Ah okay so quite a small frame

[remote glade]

Oh okay. But what is the purpose of this trick? Just to juke the player? Because they weren’t expecting you to tranform into dabi since they thought you got the froppys blood?

Wait nvm

I read what you said

The extr damage without transforming into that second character

[twilit dragon]

It's more for using the blood of the person you prefer yeah

[remote glade]

I gotcha

[twilit dragon]

and extra damage too yup

[remote glade]

Okay thanks

Btw can toga cancel any transformed characters’ ability by detransforming?

Like strike endeavour gamma?

[twilit dragon]

Yep that's where the fun of detransform combos come in, like say: crazy torch hug > detransform > Toga gamma

[remote glade]

🤯🤑🤑🤑

Omd the skill ceiling just went way up then

It’s gonna be fun learning when to transform and detransform

Wait I just realised I could also abuse powerful moves like rapid all might grab

This is gonna be fun

[twilit dragon]

Have fun with Toga

[remote glade]

I do have rapid toga

But I prefer more underrated characters

That aren’t “broken”

It’s just more fun playing lower tier characters

[young warren]

real

[remote glade]

Holy a tech main 😭

I mean I guess they are supposed to be the most complicated

Do character effects still linger / work after you transform back into base? Like ochacho sa float or Ida / strike dabi gamma speed boost?

[young warren]

you’re asking me?

ik ochaco’s do, idk about strike dabi or iida’s gamma. she still keeps tech dabi’s gamma

[remote glade]

Oh okay

It’s kinda weird that only ochacho sa still works

But I guess it does make sense

Yh I think any other actual abilities that don’t affect your character still stays when you detransform

Like ice walls and stuff

Which is pretty neat

[remote glade]

Wait what happens if you take the blood of another toga who’s transformed into another character? Or a twice beta clone? Or a twice sa clone

[empty drift]

You transform into the character the other toga was transformed to

[dire raft]

gonna work on redoing my document for this character, starting on rapid. would people rather I put combo suggestions as a separate section or link them with when I talk about blood use for each character

[remote glade]

Whatever works best for you

[remote glade]

Where can I find the original document though?

[dire raft]

I have it somewhere. but it's so outdated

like 4 seasons out of date

[twilit dragon]

Only ochako's float to my memory

[twilit dragon]

I think a separate section works so it's easier to go back to anything specific

[dire raft]

kk I'll get to it soon ish

[dire raft]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vZBXrOuJdFL4o5SZbRG75Kn2YpJ0s1Jj7Ob2t5ZbfFc/edit?usp=drivesdk

okay the baseline of it is fine

done

gotta add combos and blood usage when I get chance

[radiant socket]

We love assault endy

[dire raft]

balanced

[dire raft]

over half the combos have been written in. it's a lil messy rn cause I accidentally wrote it in bold from my phone lol. but I'll finish combos later on my work break, then it's mostly just character usage

[summer mica]

Guys I might I’ve cook not hard but a little

[versed swallow]

did i eat

[versed swallow]

#1233264725773516820 message read all of this

[versed swallow]

rn i'm doing card dupe and the yellow allmight plus ultra thing that gives me 60% PU at the start of the battle. Tbh anything works on toga. I wouldn't recommend 1hp kiri tuning tbh, she can be very exposed sometimes. Honestly she might be like a plus ultra build girl. Maybe muscle form + assault endeavor can be good.

[young warren]

why gamma 7 specifically

[vagrant pier]

it gives most range

[young warren]

I see

I might need to go back to using her beta too, they kinda reversed the nerf to it anyways

[remote glade]

Meh i don’t really like pu tunings cause , I don’t really get much use out of it. Like I prob only pu once in an actual game if I make it to endgame and I doubt pu tunings would make much of a difference

I prefer tunings that I can use whenever

Like wall runner and stuff

[dire raft]

alpha tends to be more reliable if you can aim it

beta is still extremely punishable with no armor

[young warren]

yeah I’ve used it firsthand before, it’s deadly in team combos

it just still feels awkward to use at times, certainly not a beamer alpha

blue ochaco gamma or mirio alpha into purple toga alpha is instant death

[dire raft]

my personal orders are alpha 7 gamma 7 beta 9
or alpha 7 gamma 4 beta 9 gamma 7

7 for max alpha hitbox for reference. tuning gets it up to the original 30 dmg it would do at level 9

[summer mica]

These aren’t perfect but it’s what in my opinion is good for toga

Remember these is my opinion not a professional mhur player

[dire raft]

can you send me a link to that? I'll probs do one

cause a lot of your s tier tunes flat out don't even work for toga

and is that specifically tech/rapid? or just general

[summer mica]

Rude way of saying it but it works for me

I just search um mhur tunning tear list

[dire raft]

? rude how? apologies if it came that way, I'm just very blunt in how I talk

[summer mica]

It can be both

[dire raft]

eg willpower. can be nice, but won't proc while transformed

[summer mica]

It’s fine

[dire raft]

so I won't have it in s

revenge skills are the same

she's very awkward with tuning

I hate it lol

[summer mica]

Oh my bad I didn’t even mean to put that o e there

I find wall runners really good

Form me at lest

[young warren]

just give her plus ultra tuning

[dire raft]

same thing

well

depends on which one

[summer mica]

Well u would want to be hyper aggressive but sometimes people don’t like playing that way

Cuase u need kills

To get more plus ultra

[young warren]

toga is pretty okay to get kills with

[summer mica]

Ues but still

Mizuki one of the top or the top toga player uses wallruner and willpower

[dire raft]

willpower is like an a/b tier for her

imo

my personal top 5 would be card dupe, wall run, crushing pu tamaki tuning and honestly probs high speed or kota finder or smth

[summer mica]

Space hop is good too

[dire raft]

that's general use tho. stuff like trance blow or spiraling/space hop are more valuable on techga

a waste of a tuning on rapidga

[summer mica]

Mine is space hope and wallruner I wanna get to my opponent quick I play hyper aggressive so I find it help a lot

[dire raft]

techga or rapid?

for techga that's extremely nice. I'm comfy with just one of the two, rapidga I've never found the need for space hop personally

[summer mica]

Both

[dire raft]

fairs

[nova oriole]

i run it on both as well, but mainly because i make a lot of mistakes on this game, and space hop is nice for avoiding wake up catches when you get into a bad spot

[summer mica]

I use it for chasing

[summer mica]

Did u finish ur tuning

[dire raft]

I'm working rn so I'll do it shortly

[summer mica]

K

[dire raft]

that's what I'd have, nothing is ordered though

[summer mica]

Ok thx

For ur time

[nova oriole]

im not ready for that tech mirio tuning

gonna be miserable when that releases

[versed swallow]

that's true. But honestly with rapid toga i don't see much use in any other tuning ngl... i've tried like the high jump tunings, useless to me. She is pretty rapid so i don't think i would need wall runner. but maybe like tunings like the permeation ones that make you invincible in the beginning of a match maybe are good

tbh with rapid toga i wanna be deadly when i PU. Usually i would agree with u cuz you get PU like once a match if u dont have crushing PU or PU turbo or yellow all might tuning, but i wanna try PU build with rapid toga. Muscle form is good and full burn is rlly good

I'll be DEADLY

[dire raft]

even if it doesn't work while transformed it's gonna be so busted

[dire raft]

ofc <3

[nova oriole]

i think the worst part for me is how for a lot of characters, their team combos and tods will be ruined.

the fact that it also has only a 15 second cooldown is disgusting. deserves at minimum a 45 second long cooldown.

[dire raft]

a minute and a half/2 minutes imo

it's willpower just 10× better

honestly stronger than prime sisterly. good players will be immortal with it

[nova oriole]

the tournament is gonna be something else with that tuning running rampant 💔

[young warren]

ability manifest is that good?

[dire raft]

yes, severely underrated tuning.

[marble saddle]

Techga 1v3

[tepid bridge]

ppl actually use tech toga is crazy

[twilit dragon]

She's hella fun

[dire raft]

frr

[remote glade]

Yay active chat

[remote glade]

More fun imo

[remote glade]

Need more techga gameplay pls 🙏😩

[summer mica]

Question is it ok that I use gyroscope like lots of people is rude at me cause of it…

I don’t have enough money for a gaming pc so gyro feels like mouse to me

Cuase I’ve been practicing without gyro it’s not bad but it’s kinda hard

[twilit dragon]

Nah gyro is fine, it's what I use on switch too and it's a nice middle ground between controller and mouse

[summer mica]

Thx for the feedback I just wanted to be reassured that I wasn’t like cheating u guess?

[dire raft]

gosh no, it's already a handicap playing on switch lol. the only 'cheating' would be pc aim assist on a controller

[remote glade]

Absolute Legend!!!!!!

Thank you for taking the time to make this masterpiece

I will make sure to learn all the ins and outs of this doc

[dire raft]

I'll be finishing it up when I get more time but it's good enough for now

[remote glade]

Will definitely appreciate that very much 🙏

[remote glade]

Btw for the detransform combos. When you first get their blood how do you know when to go for the detransform combos instead of just doing a characters normal combo or just playing the character normally for a longer duration and not cutting it short with the detransform so you can potentially use their blood later?

By this I mean, for techga blood combos. Is her assault shiggy detransform combo more worth than a normal assault shiggy combo which is like gamma beta gamma beta or something like that

Or just like. When do you know when to go for the detransform combo is what I’m tryna say

[dire raft]

depends on situation really, that's smth that'll come with playing the character more. I detransform combo when I know the blood I have isn't what I need. or when I know it'll end up doing more damage based on levels and theirs. also ending combos with beta let's you back off from a fight immediately once the damage is done

[versed swallow]

the dabi

[young warren]

“smells burnt” LOL 😂

[young warren]

💀💫

[remote glade]

Oh I seeeee

[remote glade]

Let’s gooooo techga has a movement tech!!!!

Exactly what i needed from this character

But can someone mind sending a vid to show me better how it’s done

As I don’t get it

[dire raft]

it's a very niche one but I can get a clip of it tonight for you

oh actually I have a clip somewhere

[remote glade]

That would be much appreciated

[dire raft]

gg I can't find it. it's super niche so I rarely do it but I'll clip it later at the very least

[dire raft]

@remote glade

the application is niche but it's very fun to do lol

[nova oriole]

omg toga beach skin

[dire raft]

yes

[twilit dragon]

I love that using the skin, good taste🔥

[dire raft]

yess

I started using it a bit ago

[twilit dragon]

Makes me feel cute, especially the fancy color

[dire raft]

ikr, and ugh I gotta test pu turbo on toga

in concept it should be great but that's if it procs reliably

it's the only thing I'm not sure of yet in my tune list

[twilit dragon]

Come to think of if I never use PU turbo Anyways GL with that 🫡

[remote glade]

thank you sm

idk how practical that would be to use in game though

[dire raft]

yea like I said it's niche. I only do it here and there, in some blood combos I do it if I'm on a ledge, or if I just want to catch someone off guard since they don't expect me to randomly shoot up into the air when I'm moving forwards

[remote glade]

Oh i see

Does anyone know any good techga players who post toga gameplay like frequently

and where i can watch them

like maybe yt or something?

[remote glade]

do you post gameplay?

[dire raft]

just the occasional clips here/tt really. I'm considering streaming in the future/yt but idk yet

[remote glade]

oh okay

[dire raft]

oh peak I got practical application just now

coulda hit it twice but misinputting cause I don't play kbm lol

[dire raft]

twice in this game I mean, not this clip. but yea it's a lot faster and more unpredictable than jump betaing.gives you a lot more angels to play from

[remote glade]

Your mechanics are so smooth

mine are all over the place 😭

but yh that tech was actually pretty handy

[dire raft]

I've play her since the beta so dw 😭 got 700 hrs or smth on specifically techga

just converting my skill on controller to kbm

[remote glade]

oh i see

i just keep dying rn

i just dont think i fit her playstyle

so imma have to put toga aside 😭

like i wanna play aggro

well it was a good run anyway

had fun with this mini techga arc

[dire raft]

if you want aggro rapidga

techga needs a lot more caution and character roster mastery to be aggressive with

[remote glade]

yeah

but its also like you gotta focus on a hundred different things

which my brain just cant handle

[rugged nacelle]

Playing toga is playing the whole roster

[edgy haven]

It's nice to see that someone still plays Tech Toga

[dire raft]

she's always been my favourite, gotta show off techga supremacy

[twilit dragon]

Best advice for being aggro with tech is that she can cash in super well on opportunities and being in the right place with the right blood etc. as opposed to rapid toga who can start that momentum herself reliably so it's all about capitalizing on those moments otherwise you have to be pretty reserved unfortunately

[dire raft]

^

rapidga can make her own momentum and sustain it with her own decisions

techga needs to punish bad decisions to reliably keep momentum if she isn't blood comboing

put in short

[nova oriole]

buff tech toga

[dire raft]

all I want is gamma tracking buff. and armor on beta startup

[nova oriole]

armor on beta would be amazing

but seriously, that gamma tracking is so desperately needed

have to do a prayer each time you hit that button that even a single needle hits

[dire raft]

it's why I combo into it often, third party with it. or use it as a punish tool

[nova oriole]

ill have to try that

in my current experience it never hits a target im actually aiming at, but will hit every needle on the special actioned ochaco going at max speed with her alphas whilst running away lol

always tracks perfect when i never expect it to

[twilit dragon]

I've found myself doing crazy torch beta into gamma more than beta lately but otherwise I usually try catch people off with it in punishes or when they aren't aware. Detransform into gamma is nice when it works but it's not for every matchup

Also I second the beta startup armor

[dire raft]

ye we gotta do the weirdest stuff to keep momentum

[versed swallow]

should i rather do

card dupe + full burn
or
start a whole new tuning build and do PU intensified + full burn (full burn cancels out PU intensified's shortening of PU, so the length will be as long as full burn is supposed to make it)

idk if a full plus ultra build on rapid toga is good

cuz she's good at poking and 1v1's but like idkkk

[dire raft]

I'd rather make a dedicated pu build but that's just me. my main card dupe build runs card dupe + crushing pu/ability manifest

but I would assume full burn + pu intensified trigger the same as muscle form. where you need to be toga before you pu. then you can do as you wish

[versed swallow]

I need to be toga to do that? 😩 what... muscle form also has that requirement?

[dire raft]

muscle form does too yes, that's smth I tested

I assume other pu triggering tunes work the same

[fiery jasper]

I think PU tuning on Toga could be awesome. I’ve noticed she deals a lot of damage during PU, and if you’re really good, you can even take on the whole team. I’d recommend giving that kind of tuning a try.

[versed swallow]

that's so bad. there's no telling if i PU on toga or someone else

[dire raft]

yea it's why I don't have them as top tier turns

but second highest

[versed swallow]

alr!!! should i replace card dupe with muscle form

[versed swallow]

hm okay

[dire raft]

keep card dupe imo

[fiery jasper]

When it comes to tunings, it’s always best to pick them based on what your gameplay is missing the most. For example, if someone struggles to max out their attacks, they should go for card duplication, and if they feel like their abilities are on cooldown too often, they should grab faster skill refresh after breaking a Guard (Dabi Tuning).

That’s why analyzing your own gameplay is so important.

[fossil fjord]

is there any techs to tech toga @dire raft

[dire raft]

other than just comboing into gamma and the like her main one is beta ledge tech but it takes a lot of knowledge to get value with it

[dire raft]

. bad aim but the point is there

[dire raft]

and my toga doc. techga specifically is covered. just need other general details

[fossil fjord]

hmm ok thanks

[versed swallow]

this is so true. leveling is sometimes very hard for me cuz i use all my abilities a lot and i can't decide which to focus on leveling, so i want all my abilities to be strong

[dire raft]

my techga order took a lot of experimentation

rapidga is a simple one

but techga I go alpha 7 gamma 4 max b gamma 7 max A max y

[twilit dragon]

Yep you only get the Muscle form benefits if you PU as Toga

[twilit dragon]

Also I tried the full burn + PU intensified build but maybe it's preference but I prefer Crushing PU/Turbo/Muscle Form more. Feels easier to get use out of

It's not bad but I'm too used to using PU earlier

[dire raft]

it's a personal preference thing I suppose. 1 really strong pu. or consistent 2/more pus

I'd rather her multiple pu uses

get*

[solemn gulch]

this is what we love to see as toga

[little pilot]

If you had to give Tech Toga one nerf, what would it be.

And I'm not saying she needs a nerf, but imagine you're ByKing for a moment, what would you nerf on Tech Toga?

[twilit dragon]

I mean Ibara is pretty scary but otherwise that's a nice team to bully

[twilit dragon]

Special cooldown after using the stab on a dead body is longer but that's cuz nobody uses it so the nerf won't even be noticeable

[versed swallow]

Oh okay. I used to have all might PU thingy to get PU early but it doesn't rlly come in handy. imma use full burn i think it will help me the most incase i can only use plus ultra a bit later.

i was playing todoroki earlier and i plus ultrad and managed to get away. I quickly healed and managed to still fight. if i had full burn then i would be able to fight. same with toga

[versed swallow]

maybe how her beta can infinitely go around if u keep hitting people

i would give her a buff. she's hopeless

[remote glade]

IM BACK ON TOGA

CAUSE I JUST PULL 3 OF HER PURS

AND IMO HER BEST PURS

Cyberpunk

Pirate

and Disuguised

although i would like the knight one as well

but im so gassed

oh but i did use 1000 tix

and now ive got 100 roll points sitting there

i could spend another 1000 tix and just get a qss

but i'm not really interest in any of them

might just save

But Yall please cook me up with your best tuning builds

i preferably would like wall runner

and another tuning which makes her a bit more tanky

cause i be having to heal every now and then

[twilit dragon]

The duffle dangerous you can replace space hop
the normal duffle you can do the same as dangerous but just swap the tunes
suit fancy you can put Wall run instead of card dupe
cyberpunk you can stack defense normal tunes and wall run + revenge support (not revenge rapid I was testing stuff)

[remote glade]

Thanks sm

Yh i think high speed replenishment will come very handy

as well as ability manifest, space hop and revenge support

i unfortunately donth have the duffle costume though

at the moment ive got 0 data for tamaki

how good is revenge support?

[remote glade]

Actually so much fun

But idk why but her 300hp is too little imo

cant be as aggro as i want

i think i'll use high speed replenishment cause i'm always healing up whenever i be taking damage it just make me feel more comfortable

but when i have enough data i may make another build for strike tuning like ability manifest or iron fist

and if i could get another pur which has rapid and assault tuning then i may look into sisterly / revenge assault to make her more tanky

i dont feel like toga needs space hop tho

i think with enough practice you can get up to most places with her double beta

also idk how i always get into the situation but i'm always somehow right next to my opponent randomnly and i just spam melee and it always works. i think she has like a really fast melee activation or something, but lacks range

[twilit dragon]

It's good for staying alive while running and juking people

[remote glade]

But does it heal much?

thats rapid toga

[fiery jasper]

Ohh okay

[remote glade]

heard it only does 7 a tick

which is less than a normal heal card no?

[twilit dragon]

It is but it makes up for it in length and stacking on top of other healing

Or freeing you up to keep moving

[remote glade]

that is true

[remote glade]

It's betweem that and high speed replenishment for me

i find myself shielding up a lot of times so i thought high speed would be useful

[twilit dragon]

High speed is a nice go to so can't go wrong there

[remote glade]

what do you reccomend i should put for these normal tuning slots?

or just follow the build you sent?

this is for techga btw

[twilit dragon]

Yeah I think like how I have it with the triple gamma

The other tunes I'm not too worried about

[remote glade]

question: Lets say your playing tech toga, and then you transform into twice. When your transformed as Twice, do you get his rapid role's movement speed boost or do you still get togas tech role's tech boost? Or do they both stack?

[remote glade]

sigh no active chat

[rancid spade]

No idea

[twilit dragon]

Never thought about it now that you mention it but I assume toga's passive remains active throughout

[remote glade]

woah i didnt think i'd get 2 responses

[remote glade]

Oh really? 🤣

I thought everyone whos ever played toga would have asked that question

Yh i feel like toga passive remains

cause whenever i play techga, i feel like i get faster reloads even when transformed

but idk if the transformed character's passive also works as well

[dire raft]

it doesn't to my knowledge

your character and abilities are changing

your role is not

[nova oriole]

i have noticed in training, i do get the role passives of the bots teammates i take blood from.

that might be what youre experiencing

[wind plinth]

looked at this discussion post and rolled cyberpunk thanks guys

[remote glade]

Oh okay

So does that mean I no longer get the passives of my actual teammates when I’m transformed? 🧐

I know it doesnt affect the game that much but its still quite interesting 🤣

[obtuse geode]

What's the best suit for tunning?

[dire raft]

which toga

[obtuse geode]

Rapid

[dire raft]

cyberpunk heat. or default pirate
focus gamma/alpha dmg, then hp/gp where possible
crushing pu/ability manifest+ card dupe/wall run would be my preferred special tunes

[obtuse geode]

Ty

[summer mica]

I sick and tired of this

I worked so hard for rapid toga on switch and the I was like PlayStation mhur would be fun I get it first pull I get rapid toga and both pirate and cyberpunk costume now I’ll still have a ton of pulls left and I’ll pull for assault Ochaco

[brisk crow]

why does tech toga never get any buffs, the devs should give her 350 hp

[summer mica]

Girly she did get a buff she got a lot of dmg on her beta

And awhile back u can use her gamma twice instead of once

[dire raft]

she got a beta dmg revert

her beta dmg was ruined before. now it's back to being okay

and two gammas with bad tracking is worse than 1 gamma with the old amazing tracking

I'd still argue she's worse than tech dabi

[remote glade]

Yh i just need one good buff from her of either one of these

1. Better gamma tracking
2. More armour on her beta against certain moves
3. 350hp

If she gets atleast one of those buffs i'll be more than satisfied

I also wish my alpha game is better, but i don't think they can really do anything for that

is more of a skill issue on my behalf

idk how to hit more alphas

like should i aim in or just fire them normally

and should i be strafing, jumping , crouching?

[twilit dragon]

It is still a projectile so the best advice other than getting better at aiming is that you should try leading your shots a bit when people are far away

[twilit dragon]

Also yeah it's usually a good idea to strafe especially if they're paying attention to you

[remote glade]

Okay thanks

her kit does feel a little clunky at times

after like beta

or when doing gamma

cause its a brief moment where you cant do much

[remote glade]

What's your tips on being flexible with every character? Is learning one good combo goo enough? Or should i learn more combos or learn how to play the trasnformed characters playstyle more?

[summer mica]

Utilize the blood you get into combos u can make extremely strong combos with the right blood

Search it’s what I would do for both togas even useing blood to get away or set up a barricade can help u extremely so get familiar
With other characters combos chains

[twilit dragon]

As a base line I always think of a specific strength for each character so if I can't do a combo I'll fall back on that instead or just reset

[summer mica]

Dose the switch 2 make mhur more smooth to play or is it the same thing on switch 1

[twilit dragon]

Like some examples at the top of my head:
Overhaul - healbot
Yellow endeavor - look to beta but also air stall with his special before detransforming
Momo - Lucky bag
Monoma - Scanners my teammate and if not monoma run away shenanigans etc.

[twilit dragon]

It's the same framerate as switch 1 (30 fps) but it's more stable so there's less lag moments

So basically yeah it's smoother

[summer mica]

Ok thx needed to know I was looking into switch 2

[twilit dragon]

No prob

[summer mica]

❤️

Also rapid toga on PlayStation is 10x better

Then switch

[rough tulip]

The blood thing is why I think I'm struggling so much with Toga, like I can play her base kits fine, but I can't do much with the blood I get other than refresh cool downs because 9 times out of 10 if I transform, the other 2 members of the person whose blood I stole come to hunt me down

[twilit dragon]

Another tip is try to not transform at the wrong time, like sometimes after killing someone on toga I'll take their blood then keep it so I can use that blood in a fight with another team or I'll look at how attentive their teammates are and if they're keeping track of the person you copy well then it's a good idea to not transform in front of them since Toga gets highlighted for them and is an easier target.

But there are cases where the character you copy is such a "win button" (especially if you know you can play them better) the reward of using that character against them outweighs the risk like say a Shigi with max beta and his whole team is boxed in a room or a rapid All might gamma or alpha to control space or a Tech shoto you can spam explosions with etc.

[empty drift]

@rough tulip i main rapid toga ,only blood i don't use for cooldowns is kurogiri, assault endeavor and aizawa since he's my 2nd main

[rough tulip]

I see! I always try to take kurogiri blood, but then I get jumped by his teammates lol

But the tips on timing transformations seem helpful, so ty!

[verbal fiber]

Does anyone know of it's possible to transform Into someone and then immediately transform back into toga

[rough tulip]

It is! You just gotta be really quick with pressing the transform and then crouch twice

[rugged nacelle]

I wanna get better at both toga can I be trained just dm if you can [:

[brisk crow]

would electrification work on tech toga for her beta

i dont have tech denki so i cant test it

[nova oriole]

not really, the final hit in her beta hard knocks

[brisk crow]

oh well if it did work it would be really overpowered

[twilit dragon]

It's good for protection and not combos. Not a good option against characters with armored moves

[rocky carbon]

Spiraling jump or space hop

Which one is better for tech toga

[little pilot]

If you're playing Rapid Toga, either or.

In those cases where you use up all your Y's and are a sitting duck on the floor.

Works me wonders.

[twilit dragon]

Space hop cuz the air time but it's also more controllable cuz you choose when to neutral jump

[rocky carbon]

Thanks bro

[little pilot]

What headcanon do you have for Toga (no freaky things)?

For me, I bet from how much blood she has drunken, she can differentiate blood types by taste. You can blindfold her, give her O+, and she'll get it right.

[twilit dragon]

She’s immune or resistant to blood related diseases and given her abnormal cat-like speed, reflexes and facial features she has residual quirk dna from heteromorph ancestors

She’s built different

[buoyant halo]

She can turn into a bat and hates sunlight ||/j||

[marble saddle]

She sleeps like this

[feral violet]

she drinks blood like its wine

[novel salmon]

rapid toga is easy to dodge

[inland star]

Yeah if she’s not an ace level toga sure

[novel salmon]

she always easy to dodge ace or not

[novel salmon]

i dont see the problem

🤨

[inland star]

She’s not maybe if ur on console sure but most good togas are on pc, toga is a huge problem to this day because of her high dp her range and how much area she covers with one attack having a good rapid toga is almost guaranteed top 3

[novel salmon]

;-; pc togas are straight garbage it might be a skill issue for u and the only range thing is her alpha

[inland star]

No not for me in general I’ve seen pc Togas play, I died to a Deku that was on her team and I saw the toga get 8k 6k damage and just win basically on her own, saying pc togas are garbage just because of ur experience doesn’t defeat or prove my argument to be wrong or anything,

[novel salmon]

but it is wrong ur complaining about the wrong character and any character can get that type of damage its not special

[inland star]

I get ur trying to “big bro” by saying get better but it’s not a factor of being better the problem is what toga can do is what people are missing. I can use ur same argument against u by saying, “nah bro ur lobbies are garbage and the togas u fight are worse considering mines are always in top 1k so wdym?” Like please give me a argument then just deflection

[novel salmon]

not saying that ur twisting my words

[inland star]

Right so I shouldn’t be complaining about a overplayed top character, i shouldn’t be complaining about her having inf cooldowns or no end lag on her abilities, let’s talk about something worse like mirio for some reason cuz the devs love to nerf him, so fun

[inland star]

I’m not

Is that all?

Where ur argument?

Anything to counter what I said?

[novel salmon]

overplayed???????

[inland star]

Uh yes…you do know togas is one of the highest

[novel salmon]

monoma strike kendo kiri is starting to get played but but toga?? idk about that one

[inland star]

New gen players

[novel salmon]

i see them once in a while but not always played

[novel salmon]

🫵 🤨

[inland star]

Don’t play the game enough

[novel salmon]

question who do u main

[inland star]

Season 1 big guy

[novel salmon]

so was i ur nothing special

ur done??

[inland star]

Bakugo, mirio, shigaraki, and a few others, I don’t touch garbage characters like ochco kendo, or shinso

[inland star]

U act like u just started playing the game 4 days ago

[novel salmon]

but u touch red kiri am i right?

[novel salmon]

thats how ur acting

[inland star]

Done with you considering u can’t even bring urself to bring up a counter to my arguments yeah ur cooked

[inland star]

He coo don’t see the hate

[novel salmon]

u dont see the problem with him

??

thats new

[inland star]

Is that all? Are u five anything I’m saying to u ur just saying no u like??

[inland star]

I mean I do at times but at the same time if u have some games iq u can beat him or use ur team

[novel salmon]

the problem is ur the only one complaining about toga while u got red kendo with all that movement and damage monoma WITH FAST INF COOLDOWNS. kiri does way too much damage and ur complaining about a toga who can be torture but them is sounds like u bassically have a skill issue

u need iq ngl

[inland star]

Kira don’t have inf lol ur def a new player🤣🤣

[novel salmon]

read it again 🤨

[inland star]

Nah don’t change now

[novel salmon]

also im not

[inland star]

I literally saw u lol

[inland star]

Yk what when I get outta school I’ll be happily able to beat you with blue toga

If she isn’t an issue to u

I’ll show u

I don’t play her or play comp and I haven’t played the game in 4 weeks

[novel salmon]

yeah ur just the problem ngl now if playing shiggy ofc ur not gonna beat her all ur attacks are for ground

[inland star]

Should be easy if she’s balanced fr

[inland star]

?

Again

No counter to what I said

Just ur the problem

[novel salmon]

now ur jumping to conclusions

[inland star]

Is she balanced or not?

Like make up ur mind

[novel salmon]

never said she was balanced im just saying she not a character u should worry abt

[inland star]

Why

She has inf cooldowns and a 200 dmg combo she can do indefinitely

And that’s if ur average

[novel salmon]

thats all im hearing is inf coldowns and u got red kendo do 350+ off one move

[inland star]

She is an issue

But am I in the kendo section??

Nooo i didn’t think so

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[novel salmon]

shes really not but ok

but ur complainng about damage 🤨

while there other who do high damage

and beta gamma is not 200 btw

[inland star]

Proof?

[novel salmon]

check it out for yourself its not that hard

its actually does 108 ;-;

and 142 maxed out

not 200 tho

[dire raft]

wait.. someone is bad enough at the game.. to think rapidga is an issue but red Kiri isn't?😭

[novel salmon]

pretty much

crazy right

[dire raft]

LOL

this playerbase is hilarious

as if Kiri isn't top 3 rn

[novel salmon]

kiri can do special and take toga out the air

[dire raft]

yea toga is slow and with a lot of punish windows in base kit,blow hp etc. she has multiple large flaws

Kiri is just free lol

[novel salmon]

fr when she does her gamma and miss it leaves her open for a aatack

[novel salmon]

not to mention there are others to worry about

[young warren]

go ahead and kiss already

[novel salmon]

oh he stopped good

[novel salmon]

have a nice day 😉 🤌

[inland star]

Not u please go somewhere unless u go debate me invoice chat

[dire raft]

💔😭

[inland star]

I was at school

[dire raft]

bro said debate in vc 😭

[novel salmon]

eh btw go ahead and scoll up

[dire raft]

crutching red Kiri and feeling entitled is okay <3

[inland star]

Debate Me in vc

[inland star]

I don’t like red kiri

[novel salmon]

cant rn u should of ask when we first debated

[inland star]

Stop chatting and debate me

[novel salmon]

btw she dosent do 200

even when lvls at maxed

beta gamma ;-;

[inland star]

Vc

[dire raft]

well regardless you said he's fine while complaining about toga

[inland star]

Can’t type so vc

[dire raft]

I'm not vcing a bot

get your low kd low avg dmg outta here

go back to bot lobbies

[novel salmon]

so ur done good

[inland star]

?

[novel salmon]

;-;

[inland star]

Go to vc

[young warren]

show your stats if you can prove them wrong

this argument is sad to watch rn

[inland star]

If ur so right go to vc debate me

[inland star]

No matter what i haven’t had any of my arguments or points debunked just what about this character like can we talk about toga?

[young warren]

but they're saying you got a low KD average damage and a skill issue

you gotta add more base to your argument

[inland star]

Go to vc

[novel salmon]

its not that hard to roll her beta

[inland star]

I can’t type

[novel salmon]

ur talking about vc but i told u should of asked sooner

[young warren]

@novel salmon join the VC and kiss already

[inland star]

Why don’t u join it

[dire raft]

this is goofy 😭 I'm just expecting it to be ragebait lol

[young warren]

I'm on call with my shordy

[novel salmon]

i cant rn im in a very loud place for me to hear anything

and i forgot me airpods at home

[young warren]

💀 damnn

[novel salmon]

ye

[inland star]

Are u gonna actually debate me or not ur presence here is basically pointless

[dire raft]

what even is there to debate

you've said nothing of significance about toga at all

[inland star]

Okay

Then hope in vc

[dire raft]

I'm busy

[inland star]

I’ll tell u everything

[dire raft]

I gotta go get ace rank

[inland star]

Busy enough to still be here

Gimme a break

[dire raft]

no ty

this is funny

[inland star]

Anyways

Anyone else with the proper amount of chromosomes wanna prove why toga isnt broken

Please just have 3 brain cells

[dire raft]

why is she broken in comparison to other characters. that's the real question

she's a high tier but not a top tier meta breaking character

she's fine rn compared to others. not even #1 rapid

[novel salmon]

ngl she not even that broken

[inland star]

Okay get in vc

[novel salmon]

u got ochaco with a inf combo thats leaves u very low

[inland star]

I’m aware

[novel salmon]

^

[inland star]

But isn’t yhis the place to talk about ochcho?

[inland star]

Then go away 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[novel salmon]

this is a toga gc

[rancid spade]

I'll join

To debate

[feral violet]

red kirishima not being broken is crazy

[novel salmon]

but u were talking about damage before saying she does 200 with beta gamma but i told u she does 108 and 142 maxed out mind u thats a combo she has to do while u got kendo does one move and gets a insta guard break and got red kiri with a insane combo

but complaining about toga being too much;-; its insane really crazy

[feral violet]

bro definitely died to a good toga and now is mad

[novel salmon]

fr

[inland star]

Thank you

[novel salmon]

toga is least of ur worrys she still a threat yeah but not a huge one

[rancid spade]

Do i send you an invite to a server?

[feral violet]

the only thing i hate is her alpha hitbox but i main tamaki so i cant talk about that

[inland star]

Nah let’s debate here

[novel salmon]

eh if she catach u in a allie ur done for them alphas gonna hit

[rancid spade]

Join

[inland star]

I have

[feral violet]

she catched me while i was flying with tamaki's special action

[novel salmon]

thats gotta hurt

she said u not going anywhere

[feral violet]

i got mad because the alpha was nowhere near me, i was above it and it instantly downed me lol but game is game

[novel salmon]

its probably ur hitbox shifting maybe

togas to ngl

[feral violet]

downed her teammates she was the only one alive that definitely hurt

[novel salmon]

she wanted to avvenge her team

[feral violet]

well she managed to

well ggs to her

[novel salmon]

yup

u play toga?

[twilit dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-linus-tech-tips-sit-down-and-read-spreading-fire-this-is-fine-gif-16131886

Back to minding my business

[novel salmon]

get out of here

this is the vip toga palace

[novel salmon]

wheres ur ticket

[twilit dragon]

I make myself comfortable here when I feel like

As toga says: “I just wanna live love and die however I choose to”

[novel salmon]

THIS IS VIP ONLY IMA HAVE TO CALL THE COPS IF U DONT LEAVE

[twilit dragon]

Jokes on you I break rules😎

[novel salmon]

oh..

ILL GET THE OCHACO

[marble saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361375148380524580/1406419773885255882/image0.gif

[dire raft]

okay new tune works as I thought

only tested at level 1 cause I have no mats but it won't proc while you're transformed

but it will carry over into a transform

[twilit dragon]

Figures but still sounds pretty useful

[novel salmon]

i think u talked in wrong chat

[buoyant halo]

Mb mb

[novel salmon]

btw what bug is it

[buoyant halo]

Getting stuck in buildings one

The soft locks

[novel salmon]

oh ye the bug is back

[cerulean arrow]

Toga players AHHHHH

I love toga but I hate toga

I CANT DECIDE

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/662586010756055071.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=TwiceNope

She's literally just so innocent one second and the next brutally murdering me

https://youtu.be/vk_B33_iYOw?si=YHUhWXNn78oMg6Oq

I couldn't have said it better myself 😭

[twilit dragon]

I had a friend tell me and I quote: "Youll always have your off days but then you suddenly commit genocide on a server"

So ig that's true, I just don't think about it much when I do xD

[dark cedar]

This is insane tech btw you can strategically decide when you want your invincibility you can perfectly time it with a heal

[finite dirge]

anyone got rapid toga tips?

[dark cedar]

When you transform try to maximise the value out of transformations instead of just cd refreshing. Then again don't stay transformed too long as it gives your opponents too much info
Usually transform, use a high value sa or setup trap abilities and most importantly use transformation ability's mobility options to get high ground before you untransform

Already being in high ground and then having 3 gamma charges just makes you have insane number of options

If you're against momo or overhaul you wanna do something i call "sa farming" where you dont wanna kill them
Instead gamma them once, transform into them, use their super strong sa and repeat

Also ochachos sa carries over to you when you untransform so whenever you get ochaco blood always use zero gravity before untransforming

[green viper]

I know i know I'm late but i REALLY wanna say how much i love duffle suit toga

[buoyant halo]

Imagine spending all your money on a duffel coat

She’s meant for the streets

[green viper]

😭

Listen duffle coat toga looks cute and comfy okay?

https://tenor.com/view/toga-himiko-gif-24209521

[little pilot]

Toga: "Hey, Tomura, how long ago was it when we robbed that one mall in that janky city?"

Tomura: "I don't know. I think was 6-"

Toga: "I think 7 months ago."

Tomura: "Yeah, like 6, 7 months ag-....."

Toga: "mischievous smile"

Tomura: "Toga, don't. That meme is not funny."

Toga: "gestures her hands in reference to the 67 meme"

Tomura: "I knew we shouldn't have let you get TikTok."

[twilit dragon]

Not me saving to pity specifically duffle coat

[buoyant halo]

You’re gonna be just as broke as her

[twilit dragon]

I did the same with Cyber and Pirate

[buoyant halo]

Dw it’s just a clone

[twilit dragon]

I have anti-funds

[stiff orchid]

lol

[buoyant halo]

I have all of them excluding suit

And pirate

And I asked for none of them

Because I don’t have any F-ING PUR CHIPS

[twilit dragon]

I don't have PUR chips cuz I spent them all on toga builds whoopsies

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[buoyant halo]

You don’t know the pain of getting everything for a character you suck at…

She was my first skill set and uniform: damaged was my second ever pur skin

She was in my first ever license

And I got all the dark night assassin skins

She was the number 1 character I wanted to play when I got this game and I got bummed she wasn’t able to play right off the bat

Yet… I suck at her…

Rapid toga requires too much short term aim for me and I always miss

[pliant compass]

u play ibara though?

[buoyant halo]

Tech toga requires too much projectile tracking and I suck at her base kit

[buoyant halo]

Now I do

When I started i wanted to become a toga main

This was before I even watched the anime

I just saw crazy looking cute girl and said “yeah she’s my main”

but going for so long, not being able to play her (I didn’t even know about trial tickets back then) I gave up on that and became a mt lady main for a little while till I got my first character ticket

Then I made the worst decision of my entire career

I unlocked ibara of all characters…

One day I’ll get a time machine and stop that cannon event

Also can I say that rapid toga beta is deceptively hard to hit

[little pilot]

It being an AOE move, kinda, kinda not.

[buoyant halo]

The AOE has gaps, and if you’re not high enough in the air, the AOE is pitiful

But true

[little pilot]

Yeah, it doesn't really feel right now it's an AOE move, but it has a max distance. Meanwhile, Endeavor and Ochaco can set up their B and Y's respectively 80 miles away.

[buoyant halo]

Ochaco maybe but not endeavor

He has a range cap

Horizontally not vertically though

[little pilot]

I'm talking about Yellow Endeavor

Not Red

[twilit dragon]

Understandable, especially now of all times tech toga isn't excatly the easiest to get the most worth out of let alone playing withe 2 1/2 quirks cuz gamma doesn't like consistency. Also rapid toga is pretty committal so as busted as she is don't let that distract from she's not the easiest to just pick up abd play.

Heck I still kinda suck because I lean into playing transformations more than base toga tbh cuz I find using her gimmick more fun to mix and match character strengths when the situation needs it over just playing toga only or the blood only.

[buoyant halo]

Yes same

Yellow endeavor beta has a range cap

[twilit dragon]

Ramble aside you too can become a toga main....next season, tech mirio sucks

https://tenor.com/view/uraraka-ochako-school-girl-cute-gif-20858281

[buoyant halo]

Tech toga alpha is really strong. It’s just I don’t have the aim for that.

And beta is really fun to use cause you can literally beta dash infinitely with enough enemies, but sometimes it’s just not possible

And gamma just picks and chooses the days it wants to hit

I love tech toga, but I can only use one part of her kit and that’s a problem

And rapid toga is 100% skill issue

I just can’t play either of them

And when it comes to transformations, I love them, but the problem is there’s so much but downside when you do that

Cause everyone can see you in 9 times out of 10 nobody is going to be fooled by a disguised toga

So most of the time it’s best to use as a cool down refresh or use the best part of their kit and then swap off

A lot of the time I just take someone’s blood like Ibara and save it for when my teammates go down

I’m the Ramble king

[buoyant halo]

I tried playing one game of rapid toga and beta’ed right into a tech Mirio gamma and died…

[pliant compass]

yeah with tech mirio u gotta think about your easily reactable moves

like nejire beta or rapid allmight alpha or tamaki gamma

play smarter and then once they've used it you can use those moves

[buoyant halo]

It was more so me just forgetting how quick his whiff cool down is

I swear he gets it back in like two seconds

[pliant compass]

depends on his lvls but yeah regardless it is short

[twilit dragon]

Top 10 worst match ups I tell you, even trading gammas isn't worth it

[buoyant halo]

What would be #1?

[twilit dragon]

Probably like tech mirio vs nejire or something, or maybe tech dabi vs cementoss cuz Nejire can at least kinda play the game

Funny enough dabi has a decent one vs mirio

[novel salmon]

me having the duffle coat but wanting her damaged outfit

[buoyant halo]

For the drip or for the tuning?

[buoyant halo]

Same question for you too

[novel salmon]

DRIP'

[twilit dragon]

Both, duffle is the only one that can run space hop + wallrun and also cuz I've been waiting since the beta for it

[pliant compass]

wallrun is not needed on her imo

space hop too cause it can be detrimental to her boomerang mechanic with her alphas

willpower + guard break permeation is peak tuning

[twilit dragon]

Hard disagree, wallrun works all the time and one of the few that works during transformations too so you automatically become the better character of the person you copy because of it

Plus it saves mobility charges, gamma for rapid and beta for tech, so you can use them offessively more

Space hop is more for tech since it's nice for reaching high ground or air stalling for gamma but rapid can still get use out of it for height and as a wake up option to keep i-frames while disorientating people

Willpower kinda sucks on toga imo since it doesn't work transformed but if you can work around it it's nice ig but her mobility is too trackable for me to feel it does more than delay the inevitable. Tech mirio's I agree is strong tho

[pliant compass]

u dont need to save mobility charges when you can cooldown reset

[twilit dragon]

Or you can cooldown reset AND have more mobility

[pliant compass]

too much mobility

[twilit dragon]

But even that aside wallrun just synergizes too well

[pliant compass]

if you couldn't get away with a transformed character and 6 toga gammas

then you were cooked even if you had wallrun

which isn't that fast anyway unless you have revenge rapid

[twilit dragon]

I'm not using wallrun just to escape yknow

It's just good for positioning in general

[pliant compass]

I know but her gammas go pretty far and the cooldown isnt bad so I never felt like I needed it

[twilit dragon]

On USJ I get that but UA and chaos are indricate enough for wallrun to be a game changer

Especially if you use wallrun launches

Plus I don't need to get that far away from people so hiding in a cranny to heal then getting back to fighting is what I prefer instead of running too far since toga isn't outrunning a lot of the meta on gamma alone

[novel salmon]

willpower is perfect for her

[twilit dragon]

When it works during transformations I'll agree, atm I don't like it

[novel salmon]

every tunning dont work wheb she transform

[twilit dragon]

I can point to mutiple like wallrun that do, tunes are just inconsistent with toga for whatever reason

[novel salmon]

it takes there tunning :/

[twilit dragon]

Reinforced revive, Card dupe, Crushing PU, Trance blow some cases like High speed work but only if the person you copy also has the tune

[novel salmon]

so ids how that would work

[twilit dragon]

It doesn't anymore, that was changed about 2 months in after tuning

Now it just visually looks like you have their tunes but you dont, Toga's either take priority or don't work during that time

I'll get an example

[novel salmon]

;/

[dark cedar]

Feel like toga is one of those characters who doesn't really have any special tunings which are "that" good on her

Im just running damage stick and critical permeation to be annoying to kill

[twilit dragon]

I'd still say wallrun, space hop, card dupe etc are go to toga tunes but if you attribute that more to the tunes themselves just being that good in general I can see that

[dire raft]

a better way to put it. it's safer and more unpredictable movement

her gamma is trash escape

on rapidga

techga beta has major flaws too

wall run helps, and it lets you also play blood like cement or tech todo more safely

[dire raft]

my top 5 would be, wall run card dupe, crushing pu, ability manifest space hop probs

[twilit dragon]

👆 This too, it gives you more of an advantage on characters who also like wallrun too

[pliant compass]

its predictable in how it goes but it goes decently far

and you get a good amount of them

[dire raft]

decent distance yes, but it's not fast at covering the distance

it's like twice gamma in terms of movement but double the range

[twilit dragon]

Here's what I mean by the the tunes not copying anymore and only being visual

And then here's wallrun always working for toga

[twilit dragon]

Just for clarity I have reinforced revive + special boost on ibara and sisterly + speedy rez on shigi, neither sets proc when transformed

[dire raft]

at least reinforced carries over

but I'd only ever use that in scrims

not worth for ranked really

[upbeat plume]

What mod are u using to change skin

[twilit dragon]

Oh just swapping ochako UA tracksuit on her

[atomic ermine]

a lil transformation combo that i was proud of

[atomic ermine]

Space hop is such an underrated tuning for a wake up option when there's realistically no way out of your fight. Gives you major height, keeps i-frames, and confuses your opponents. I literally escaped a 1v3 as tech toga with space hop and wall runner

[upbeat plume]

How do u swap..

[buoyant halo]

When it comes to tuning, what should I do?

[edgy kernel]

It's a shame that Toga can't level up her transformations anymore. That was a fun tech.

[twilit dragon]

Is this more practical? Yeah. Was pre this patch more fun? Imo yes

[little pilot]

I mean, yeah, leveling up the transformation was good, but it only lasts 40 seconds.

In a way, it was sort of a waste of cards.

They should have made where you current levels pass on to the transformation, just like how Monoma's levels affect his copied abilities.

[edgy kernel]

In certain circumstances, it can make all the difference. Even if you are permanently burning cards, having the ability to sacrifice a level card or two to give your Compress blood trucks instead of boulders or give your AfO blood a max-size beta could be the difference between living and dying.

[brisk crow]

is this ok for tech toga??

whats the best tuning for her nowadays?

[atomic kettle]

I personally run wallrunner so she can actually move

[dire raft]

for techga black duffle space hop wall run, but that works too very well

space hop helps getting blood