#Tomura Shigaraki

1 messages · Page 21 of 1

lavish ether
#

Im barred from the wake up catching because of ping 🥀

#

so it stays as a combo tool and a movement tool

jagged flame
#

Special Action is my combo starter

lavish ether
#

i like that they allowed special into melee then into whatever move you want

#

feels faintly like the days of Gamma into Special

jagged flame
#

Any strike shiggy clips?

lavish ether
#

Like, in general? or of specific things

jagged flame
#

Anything that's cool

lavish ether
#

i found the shigi's greed funny

limpid patio
#

sometimes i will fight a shiggy and they learn that they can use special and try to replicate what i just did to them lol

grim kindle
#

Thank you just trying to learn ts

coarse geyser
#

Been getting KO's with shigis special action since the beginning of time. It's my favorite way to down somebody..

limpid patio
#

i remember there was a stage he didnt even have a special action, like a long while ago

hot moss
#

Used to be 1 and originally never used to be able to go up with it

limpid patio
#

i think it was like a few days after the game released, there was a short time he didnt have anything then afterward gave him one like a day or 2 later smth like that

hot moss
#

I wish I could remember the beginner days of the game
Idk how I got anything done with the guy

terse pelican
#

people were really new

#

and didnt know how to go up

#

so they just stood on the ground and took it

hot moss
#

Even during the first few days of the game's existence I was tryna find whatever tricks were possible with him back then

terse pelican
#

try and not last 500 years in a single game with support nejire (impossible)

#

the last 3v1 lasted 2 whole minutes because i couldnt hit her and my team wasnt that good

terse pelican
#

like look at this (quality this bad so discord lets me upload it)

limpid patio
#

Came across hdwi a 2nd time, only got to fight start of match but I think he got jumped by rapid deku and all might somewhere endgame

jagged flame
#

I didn't main Shiggy during season 1

#

My 1st main was Kirishima

finite shore
#

What’s a good strike and assault shiggy tunning

grim kindle
#

How do I like hit my special action with air characters more with space hop

limpid patio
#

you just do it and overtime you learn when and where to use it

kind sable
keen spear
#

behold, support shigi

keen spear
#

heck yeah

grim kindle
#

Who plays yellow shiggy on controller on Xbox if so I low-key need someone to tech me to hit more combos better and play better

grim kindle
#

Drop me a message on Xbox and thank you very much

terse pelican
#

Played some asshaul after pulling him and his gamma is the second coming of strike shiggy gamma hit detection

#

Remember when you would stagger them and they would just not get grabbed

broken lodge
#

Make his gamma not have momentum when you hit someone and it would be peak

obtuse lark
obtuse lark
#

Also! Not a catastrophe main, but I think I’ve found an optimization to his ToD, and maybe his other combos?

Depending on how far away you are, you’re sometimes close enough for melee to land- and I did some testing- I was able to do GBGBM2SpA- which was a TOD on 300 HP characters- but given I was using special action out of convenience, I think you could do:

Gamma>Beta>Gamma>Beta>Melee2>Alpha

If it’s a true combo, it’d tack on some extra damage, and also activate tunings like Acceleration or Sisterly- which I think would be pretty sweet! It also keeps them in the Beta pulses for longer, so even more damage from that too.

If any of y’all can try it against real people and come back, would love to hear if it’s true, cause I literally never used him in a real game, and need to improve my aim again after using Fairy Nejire- so probably shouldn’t use him rn

cerulean rain
#

Melee acts very weird when used in tandem with beta pulses and direct betas it will randomly grant iframes to the target for no inexplicable reason. Also with gamma starter combos you're very tight on timing for anything not letting you have time to whiff melee 1 unless you do the direct beta after the second gamma but that runs the risk of them getting out earlier in the combo and makes melee more consistently buggy due to the direct beta

#

Also if you're going to melee in that combo you can also just direct alpha instead for 126 damage versus the 80 from SpA

obtuse lark
cerulean rain
#

The alpha gets you more kills and leaves 400s one shot

#

The 400s can move but they die before they can jump out of the damage if you just keep throwing alphas

limpid patio
lavish ether
#

Joyful Hitboxes

terse pelican
warm rune
#

trying to learn the assault shigi combo, do you guys know how to like work the camera well because i do gamma and turn to do beta and i end up getting too far to do anything else

terse pelican
#

You dont need to like drag your mouse across your entire desk in a milisecond either

#

You can be a little slow to have better precision

#

Also this is my preference but i like using one gamma beta and then alpha

#

I think using both betas or gammas is a waste of resources

limpid patio
#

Did you not know this

#

He can also roll midair

jagged flame
#

Hmmm

#

So Shiggy got air walk

novel ridge
#

ngl all 3 of the shigarakis are fun when youre not fighting flyers but assault might be the favorite

#

the little mini loop is fun

limpid patio
novel ridge
#

Ngl idek what chain of moves you did 😭

#

Held gamma, melee, beta?

limpid patio
#

yeah, i kinda just free balled it but gamma, air melee, beta

subtle minnow
#

All on the same guy is crazy

terse pelican
#

Its kinda crazy how good shiggy air melee combos into a lot

broken lodge
#

It's so good now after the changes

novel ridge
#

Imagine how it would be if they didn’t nerf everyone’s air melee down power

zealous knoll
#

anyone have transcend shigaraki assault build?

cerulean rain
#

He was one of the characters that didn't get it temporarily changed to 100

novel ridge
broken lodge
undone glen
#

tECH SHIGI AMAZING

#

tHIS IS A GAME I GOT WITH TECH SHIGI

#

on a win

#

expert lobs too

limpid patio
#

Wouldn't tech shiggys search be ping dependant?

#

Feels like a good 4 seconds before it even works, his search is the most useless ability in his kit it feels like

cerulean rain
cerulean rain
broken lodge
limpid patio
#

nah i just misunderstood what you meant

lavish ether
subtle minnow
cerulean rain
subtle minnow
#

Hip hip hooray

limpid patio
jagged flame
#

2 alphas pretty fast

limpid patio
#

slight ledge made me animation cancel

lavish ether
#

i remember the days where ledge animation cancel could be done on cars

#

it still can on some but way less these days

limpid patio
#

his alpha in general doesnt function properly i feel, like its very slow and when you try and reach it up buildings or anything its almost like it completely skips the floor/ground that ppl are standing on

#

theres like a good 2 second delay before it starts hitting ppl, never used to be like that

jagged flame
#

Haven't played this entire season

#

Looks like I didn't miss much

lavish ether
#

Im sad i kinda didnt have motivation this season ngl

#

It seemed like a fun season to begin with tbh

hot moss
#

I haven't played since... idk like 2 days after Assault Overhaul release?

lavish ether
#

i have only really been doing customs ever since Nejire release, and even those are rare

limpid patio
# lavish ether It seemed like a fun season to begin with tbh

Its a little better than last season, the nerfs aren't super great but it's not like 7 tech shiggys, aam, nagant platers, just the occasional 2 teams with atlesst 1 or 2 of those characters. Support nejire is the biggest issue atm in terms of meta but still, the other 3 are just slightly weaker than before. A huge rise in mirios players tho

cerulean rain
limpid patio
#

It used to be instant but last few seasons ppl walk over his decay, not even rolling

cerulean rain
#

I'm pretty sure they've been trying to adjust the netcode so that might have made the delay issue worse maybe

#

I can't say for certain unfortunately

limpid patio
#

It definitely would be that, it started happening at monomas release. It's so much harder to play compared to before

#

Pretty sure I saw you in a match last night, I only played 2 games on us. You play assault shiggy right?

cerulean rain
#

Yeah

#

I tend to swap between characters though

#

Tokoyami, assault deku, afo, assault shig are mostly my main rotation rn

#

But yesterday i was primarily on assault shig

lavish ether
limpid patio
#

I didnt get to do alot in that match tho, I kept getting stunned by air pretty much

limpid patio
cerulean rain
#

I did fight a lot of strike shigs last night

#

And i did keep stunning them during beta jumps

limpid patio
#

Alot of insta rez characters on those servers, especially froppy players

limpid patio
#

Rapid

lavish ether
#

tbh both are annoying in their own ways lag wise, rapid with a bigger hitbox and Tech with a delayed hitbox

cerulean rain
#

My favorite is when there was a double rez comp i was farming but 40 second rez frog + cementoss after my duo lagged out as they got finished so no emblem and my random tech mirio didn't really contribute much to the fight offensively

#

It went on for 5 minutes

grave wraith
#

Ok its happening more and more seeing the revive beam for like 2 seconds and the revive is done immediately

#

Cementoss byking gotta stop breaking things

terse pelican
#

also support nejire interaction with him

lavish ether
limpid patio
lavish ether
#

i have that happen too often

formal plover
#

I don't even use the combo unless im dealing with a froppy or deku and panicking

novel ridge
#

yeah that nerf did nothing but make him fightable it still does like 200+ damage

#

if the character gets nerfed and IM still playing them, that means it wasnt a big nerf. Now nagant on the other hand i played religiously but i can feel the alpha an Special Action nerfs so i dont use her as much, but she was genuinely overpowered before with that bug especially so im not mad at it

#

ill only play her when i get bore of the shigaraki skillsets tho

jagged flame
#

『僕のヒーローアカデミア ULTRA RUMBLE』の2.5周年期間となるシーズン16が26/3/25(水)より開幕!
記念すべき新シーズンを盛り上げる新キャラクターとは!?
今すぐ無料でダウンロード!

▼『僕のヒーローアカデミア ULTRA RUMBLE』とは
全世界で1,500万ダウンロー...

▶ Play video
#

Trailer on Saturday

terse pelican
#

the only reason id ever play her is because she was broken

#

out of every design for a hero shooter you pick the hitscan

#

like atleast assault deku has some sauce combos, nagant is just stay airborn and keep shooting

grave wraith
#

Just playing to be broken is boring though, no point if its just about meta hopping

terse pelican
novel ridge
#

Even his alpha is weird it’s got a lingering hotbox and startup so you still gotta lead shots

#

But I guess endeavor can count too

novel gust
#

GUYS

#

are therea ny tunings for disguise coat? only pur I have rn 😭

#

for tech shiggy

limpid patio
stiff lark
rigid flame
grim kindle
#

Miss the days with red shiggy gamma into special action

limpid patio
marble flame
#

Shigaraki got top 10 melee ngl

lavish ether
#

Finally, after 16 seasons we get debaitably his best skin 😭

#

(as well as possibly Re Destro)

jagged flame
#

AFO is getting a skillset

limpid patio
#

i believe its afo. So many ppl are thinking its stain for some reason?

jagged flame
#

He doesn't have black and red sparks

limpid patio
#

ik lol

lavish ether
#

theres lots of theorys going around

#

AFO Qss, Stain, Re Destro, Aizawa Qss, Hood Nomu, Muscular, Jiro still somehow

#

my favorite one is Yuji from JJK though 😭
that one made me giggle

terse pelican
terse pelican
#

all i hope for next season is support nejire nerf

#

because look at this

#

this character is stupid

#

i hate fighting her

lavish ether
#

i think the Skins are either AFO roll, a skillset roll or Ranked rewards (i hope its not ranked rewards cause that caps us to like 2-4 varients

limpid patio
#

I honestly think shiggy might be rank or battle pass

#

Unless they sell those sort of skins in gacha?

lavish ether
terse pelican
lavish ether
terse pelican
#

for tech

lavish ether
#

yea i think we will either get a Tech Shigi rerun of Yafo Rerun

terse pelican
#

the same for nagant cyberpunk being a nagant rerun

lavish ether
#

hmmm... but if its a Yafo rerun then it lessens the chance for a AFO qss,

terse pelican
#

also imma be fr, bakugo qss looks like tech shiggy food

#

his beta and gamma look very laggy

#

and gamma is gonna just lose to tech shiggy beta every time

lavish ether
terse pelican
lavish ether
#

wonder if it will reach Electrification Mt Lady levels of lag

lavish ether
terse pelican
lavish ether
#

s&s alpha and Bakugoi stuff might depending on visuals

#

though Stats beta, thats gonna go crazy for red shigi's dmg

#

seems to hold for like 5 seconds or so

terse pelican
lavish ether
#

easy 900 dmg combo 😭

lavish ether
#

Hmmm, hes probably gonna be a strike if i had to guess

#

only cause of Assault and Tech being taken

dark stump
#

Also you see the little white cracks of light in the logo

#

It's the same as the ones in his arm here

lavish ether
#

I wonder if that means we will get AFO's Shigaraki Possession skin sometime

lavish ether
dark stump
dark stump
lavish ether
#

tbh i could see the AFO qss being more like the early season of afo

#

as the tech afo is his mid=late skills such as Rivit and quirk fusions, and is young is well, end of series

#

so the idea of it being apart of a attack seems quite possible

stiff lark
hot moss
broken lodge
#

I feel like it's gonna be a license skin tho

wide pelican
novel ridge
broken lodge
marble flame
marble flame
stiff lark
broken lodge
#

i feel like they did that just so we know its him

summer eagle
#

In the trailer bakugo’s mele sfx is different from the original skill set, they should do the same for assault shigaraki’s mele and special action to glow red instead

marble flame
#

Any strike shigg main wanna go training?

novel ridge
lavish ether
#

If i got a nickel for every time i have seem a customs ban strike shigi today i would have 2 nickels, which isnt alot but its weird it happened twice

limpid patio
novel ridge
#

Lord you’d think it’s an unranked bot match with all those deaths in such a short span of time

terse pelican
jagged flame
#

To a person who doesn't know what he can really do

#

It might seem that way I guess

terse pelican
jagged flame
#

Stand in my 5 stacked alphas

terse pelican
#

It was on the age where his alpha didnt even climb walls

jagged flame
#

Yeah

#

His alpha did more damage at the time

terse pelican
jagged flame
#

Would it be unreasonable if assault shiggy got that same buff?

#

Alpha spread goes up walls

grave wraith
#

considering lately my encounters with assault shigarakis is 250+ done without me being able to move, yes it is

terse pelican
#

even his simple combos delete people

#

like gamma beta into alpha spam

#

also im probably pulling S&S for the fellow strike shiggers

broken lodge
limpid patio
#

You can still counter nejires with assault, probably even more than tech

broken lodge
#

Counter is a strong word

#

You can combo her better but no air combo is enough to kill tod her and you basically a free target after that

stiff lark
limpid patio
#

I didnt mean tech nejire, I was comparing assault shiggy to tech shiggy. Probably not counter but you still can chip away at her health and manoeuvre around structures to dodge her. Idk I just never really have much of an issue with them when I play assault unless its a sweaty full stack of beamers

#

You don't need to rely heavily on tods to kill

#

But I'm also not saying air characters are easy to go against, I still have a massive hatred towards them, im just saying there are ways to take them down

novel ridge
#

On shigaraki you’re realistically not killing them unless they’re already low especially strike

#

Tech can air special action into alpha then assault can do minor damage if you’re really accurate and lead the gamma to where they move

#

But his large damage combos rely on being grounded

#

Then strike is low-key just a sky victim

jagged flame
#

Low key?

#

Just lowkey?

hot moss
lavish ether
#

Mood, strike shigi has always been fine at killing flyers

novel ridge
novel ridge
#

But he bullies on ground so it’s deserved

#

Gotta have balance

hot moss
wide pelican
#

Does anyone know a decent way to try and counter support Nejire? Say the scenario was a 1v1 situation. I’m sick of of getting smacked w her beta

novel ridge
#

the moves are all easy to avoid only issue is the special action in range

lavish ether
#

like yes, we do understand strike shigi isnt as high firepower against flyers, but he can still take them out without much trouble just by taking advantage of the enviroment and dodging their attacks

hot moss
novel ridge
#

i mean you guys definetly can get it done im just saying that while it can be done its very situational an becomes even more unlikely than it already is to kill a flyer when the skill gap is roughly even

#

just cause i havent died to them doesnt mean i cant be humbled it just goes to show that its less the character moreso the player

#

if i full queue into ranked as an ace rn on a flyin character i can 100% be put into the dirt by a shigaraki if im not careful since theyre more likely to actually be both skilled and have team coordination but otherwies it comes more to my mistakes like being to agressive when i got the range advantage

#

ngl idk why i said you guys i use all 3 shigarakis more than any flying character atp

exotic knot
#

we get shigging it

limpid raptor
#

LMAO

#

AND YET AGAIN, HE'S NERFED ONCE MORE.

limpid patio
#

ya

storm bay
#

Nerfed is putting lightly

#

They removed all of his limbs and sensory organs

limpid patio
#

you can still combo, but just his most enjoyable ones are gone

limpid raptor
#

Im going to laugh my guts out

#

They are torturing Shiggy every season

#

Tech Shiggy still on top though

#

Somehow

high cobalt
#

Wait where are you guys seeing this stuff? I'm new here

limpid raptor
#

Shigaraki players every season...

limpid patio
#

idk they fixed his special bug atleast

#

i can finally play without launching myself backward

lavish ether
#

Peak, New Shigi skin at tier 70 allows for Hp sucker Revenge support

grave wraith
#

Oh no

limpid raptor
lavish ether
#

?

limpid raptor
#

All I hear from that is Tech Shiggies are going to be insufferable

stuck bloom
#

just wonder why didnt have revenge support appear while i have 1000+pieces for revenge support

#

request for help😓

high cobalt
#

It's villain slot only

#

Revenge Support is Cementoss

#

Cementoss is a Hero

stuck bloom
#

ehhh then if for villian how they equip revenge support abilitites

#

🤔

stuck bloom
high cobalt
#

You can tell because this slot has a V in it

limpid patio
stuck bloom
#

i thought they said the original costume the best tuning

#

ohh i saw it in another costume....

stuck bloom
terse pelican
#

From the patches i only saw now there is an aoe indicator

#

Did they pull something like the "gamma doesnt combo into sa but we dont say it"

storm bay
#

alpha now has 100 dp

#

that alone should tell u everything

#

gamma has 250 btw

hot moss
storm bay
#

bro his entire thing was his combo

#

his alpha had 10 dp before, 10

broken lodge
#

ofc they didnt do that to red kiri

stiff lark
limpid raptor
#

What does byking have against us

jagged flame
#

They nerfed Twice

limpid raptor
#

Wh- why

jagged flame
#

I have no idea

terse pelican
#

I swear if its each tick

#

Beamers with 80 dmg per hit have 50dp

#

There is no way they made a 30 dmg tick have double that

limpid raptor
#

This is all it says

terse pelican
#

Ok strike shiggy is actually dead

limpid raptor
#

Its assault

#

Assault Shiggy

#

Don't worry, strike'll get its turn...

terse pelican
#

Isnt the top one strike?

#

And the 2nd assault

hot moss
limpid raptor
#

^

terse pelican
#

It might be the wave and the debris from assault

limpid raptor
#

Patch notes has never stopped me before

limpid patio
#

its all yellow

#

dw about strike

limpid raptor
#

Thank god

terse pelican
#

If strike shiggy had 100 down power on alpha he was actually completely dead

limpid patio
#

alpha projectile - 100 dp, the decay spread - 75, gamma slam - 250

limpid raptor
#

They're slowly killing him anyway

terse pelican
#

You would get 150 dmg before a hard knockdown

limpid patio
#

if strike got that increase i would shed a single tear and just stop playing

limpid raptor
#

LMAO

terse pelican
limpid raptor
#

I'd hafta finally put strike shiggy down for the first time

terse pelican
#

Twice getting nerfed was crazy though

limpid raptor
#

Out of left field

#

AFO buff tho

#

The old version

#

I think

limpid patio
#

yeah his special or smth

#

idrk what it meant

limpid raptor
#

Im actually enjoying star rn

#

Shes not that bad

terse pelican
#

So assault shiggy rn should purposefully miss the alpha debris

#

Its just not worth it anymore

broken lodge
jagged flame
#

Jump cancel special action is now a thing

#

That's gonna be useful for combos

terse pelican
broken lodge
#

ah

terse pelican
#

Assault still is gonna survive

storm bay
#

strike has nothing to kill

terse pelican
#

But its harsh

broken lodge
storm bay
#

assault found shot dead behind burger king

broken lodge
#

he not twice level but

terse pelican
#

Like bottom 1

broken lodge
#

the nerfs are really hard when fighting meta stuff

terse pelican
#

Uncontested

broken lodge
#

nah but it legit pmo how they did all that but red kiri gets away with everything

#

mf never had a nerf

storm bay
#

its probably because yellow shiggy entered the ticket system

storm bay
#

making him more accessible for players

terse pelican
broken lodge
storm bay
#

yeah

limpid patio
terse pelican
#

Do you know what was the only balance change red kiri ever recieved

limpid patio
#

had no idea what it was tho

terse pelican
storm bay
#

no idea

terse pelican
#

His shield not getting pierced by afo beta

storm bay
#

🥀

terse pelican
#

Like it used to

#

And they buffed it

#

So it makes afo bounce

storm bay
#

i think he should not have kendo level of shield

#

his movement is already insane and his shield also does damage

#

someone at byking must be a red kiri main

terse pelican
#

Also an iida main

#

Because why tf was he buffed AGAIN

broken lodge
storm bay
#

eh, iida needs that hp increase to be used nowadays tbh

broken lodge
#

i look like am cheating

#

wth is this

storm bay
#

WHAT IS THIS 😭

broken lodge
#

yeah

terse pelican
storm bay
#

WHYYYYY

terse pelican
broken lodge
#

no fixer build btw

storm bay
terse pelican
limpid raptor
#

I- I'm going to slowly lose my mind, yall.

terse pelican
#

2nd coming of og beamers

broken lodge
limpid raptor
#

Im turning off crossplay, LMAO.

limpid raptor
#

Yep...

storm bay
#

and still no nejire nerfs

limpid raptor
#

Keep in mind AFO is coming

broken lodge
#

star alpha also has no down power

limpid raptor
#

So it'll get worse

broken lodge
#

she can beam u to death'

limpid raptor
#

She can res herself

storm bay
#

honestly, i fought alot of stars today, she aint that scary so far

limpid raptor
#

I think

limpid raptor
storm bay
#

her beamer has pretty average projectile speed

#

and her gamma doesnt do as much damage as strike dabi's for comparison

#

the most annoying part of her kit blackhole thankfully only have 1 charge

grave wraith
#

actually pretty noticable...

#

oh works on beta too (and alpha i guess)

terse pelican
#

I think redku is now competition for number 1

#

Mf does the highest damage shots with almost no downpower

jagged flame
#

Man I wasn't expecting this at all

terse pelican
#

Ngl the new bakugo looks lore accurate, food for every shiggy in the game

jagged flame
#

Bakugo is gonna be annoying lol

terse pelican
jagged flame
#

You'll most likely have more control for his gamma unlike strike bakugo

terse pelican
#

I hope we get new tunings for damage that arent strike characters

#

In one of these new batches

#

Also they need to stop with the + melee damage ones

#

Why does star have + melee damage

broken lodge
terse pelican
broken lodge
#

ik but thats so much free damage back then

terse pelican
#

Yes im aware, you could literally kill someone with alphas before a knockdown

broken lodge
#

thats 2 ticks

terse pelican
#

Was it the beta pulse?

#

There were 4 ticks of damage

#

The beta hit + 3 im pretty sure

broken lodge
#

thought u talking about alpha

terse pelican
#

Because his alpha does not do 93 damage lvl 1

#

No im checking and you did hit the feet

#

It matches the damage dealt

#

It goes 27 -> 60 -> 93 on frame by frame

#

27 is the rock and 33 each decay hit

broken lodge
#

yeah ur right

#

why did it only do 2 ticks of sound

formal plover
#

Y'all see the new afo moveset?

terse pelican
#

God i just realized monoma using strike shiggy + S&S

#

He steals shiggy alpha and stars beta

#

He alpha stacks, pulls everyone into it

#

Quickly refreshes the alpha and beta and does it before they escape

grave wraith
#

or worse, aizawa/shinso alpha into gamma StarAndStripe

high cobalt
#

Hey sorry can someone get me a screenshot of the tuning slots on both the new Villain Coat costumes?

novel ridge
#

oh yea this character is gonna stay a nejire victim lol

#

well strike is at least they actually gave the alpha downpower

#

no more floor of instant death i guess

jagged flame
#

Can someone show the jump cancel special action change?

high cobalt
terse pelican
broken lodge
#

Apparently tech shigi alpha is bugged to be massive again

hazy tinsel
#

Yellow Shiggy got taken out back and shot man...

high cobalt
#

It's so dumb

#

I get a nerf

#

I understand a nerf

#

But the hell is this????

stiff lark
novel ridge
#

But that sucks assault shiggy was like the most fun one

terse pelican
#

If they did that to strike hed be bottom 1 uncontested

novel ridge
#

Oh I see then

#

I definitely misinterpreted that

lavish ether
#

this seasons changes are wacky

novel ridge
#

Thank god

lavish ether
#

tbh

novel ridge
#

Some of them yeah

terse pelican
#

If they increased his alpha dp by 10x he would do 150 dmg before a hard knockdown

novel ridge
#

Lord that would be garbage 😂

lavish ether
#

they somehow further nerfed Twice 😭 (wich sucks, i just started learning that guy)
and Juiced tf out of strike Deku to where he can do 140 per alpha and get 3 off before down power

terse pelican
#

He does 125 down power per full shotgun

lavish ether
novel ridge
terse pelican
#

Out of most things nagant had down power wasnt an issue

#

She had 100 per shot (twice the ammount most beamers have), and her beta inflicted 100x3

novel ridge
lavish ether
#

Also Finishes feel really broken atm,

#

they keep not finishing shield and people just keep crawling away consistantly while trying to finish

terse pelican
terse pelican
#

It actually used to be worse s1 about the crawling part

lavish ether
#

Yea they have always been there but like, im getting them 9 times out of 10 now

#

feels really bad all of a sudden cause it wasent doing this last season

terse pelican
#

Stars and stripes also is just strike dabi 2.0

#

Its crazy

#

Her beta is the craziest part of the kit though

#

I think her grab is extremely overrated

lavish ether
#

Her alpha also does insane dmg for the lack of downpower it has apparently

terse pelican
#

Her beta is literally a team tod machine that will get abused by premades

limpid patio
#

yeah her alpha i think almost tods

#

with beta

terse pelican
#

Without pu she kills i think 250s

#

Idk about 300s

lavish ether
#

I feel like in her beta you should take extra downpower to balance it out or something

limpid patio
#

they really need to nerf beamers like that

#

but they probably wont, pretty sure they buffed strike deku

lavish ether
#

idk if they would really fix anything too much but it might help a bit

limpid patio
#

does like 130 without aiming?

lavish ether
#

Me and friends thought it was a hacker at first cause we wernt aware of how juiced it got

terse pelican
#

My main problems is beamers ammo more than damage

#

Like why does she get 10 shots

limpid patio
#

true

terse pelican
limpid patio
#

every new beamer has like 9-10 ammo

jagged flame
#

Yeah Strike Deku is the scariest character to fight against close range now

limpid patio
#

i mean the rework is cool, it makes sense tbh but smth needs to be toned down

terse pelican
limpid patio
#

maybe it should use like more ammo and increase downpower on the unaimed version

terse pelican
limpid patio
#

make the reload time longer but idk i dont ever play strike deku

terse pelican
#

They have such miniscule reload time

#

Like 2s for a bullet

#

Also something unrelated but its crazy they found a way to powercreep monoma by making sure everyone who releases has an insane melee

limpid patio
#

pretty sure everyone got a melee buff tho?

#

shigaraki has way better tracking on his now

terse pelican
limpid patio
#

ohh

terse pelican
#

Armored might had both insane too which really crippled a monoma copying him

hazy tinsel
#

Anyone else notice the massive increase in hitlag on Assault Shiggy gamma?
Also the slam sends at a higher angle making gamma slam into beta more consistent?
Seems it's not all bad

limpid patio
#

his beta also shakes the screen. Nothing important but yeah it does that now

jagged flame
#

But why though?

limpid patio
#

only when you hit someone

#

probably just for dramatic effect

#

its the same shake as when you gamma slam

hazy tinsel
#

@limpid patio huge fan btw

grave wraith
#

banana slamma

cerulean rain
#

Meaning when he roll cancels he has extended iframes now if it connected

limpid patio
#

played a few games with assault and yeah he feels horrid now

lavish ether
#

My favorite part of this update has to be the Invincible section of the Lobby, its finally relaxing, closest thing to the season 1 Lobby we have had ever tbh

#

i just get to emote with people

formal plover
#

Idk if it was a glitch or not but when i got hit by star and stripes gamma while regeneration was active it filled it back up

loud zenith
limpid patio
limpid raptor
pine ice
#

whats te best costume for tech shiggy

terse pelican
#

Ok its just me or the new costume seems like really bad for tuning

#

Maybe tech shiggy can do something

#

But for strike and assault they look just not good

novel ridge
#

one of the most gay characters in the game I just spent the past 5 minutes doing like 1k+ damage to the same dude drinking zero pots

lavish ether
#

as late-end game you end up having 3-4 max green cards with card dupe

storm bay
#

She has a dash on her melee?

#

What is this blasphemy

broken lodge
#

Twice in the big s16

#

💔

lavish ether
#

i like twice, i was playing around with him end of last season, his gamma def got nerfed this season though 😭

grave wraith
#

It did? Just seemed further

lavish ether
exotic knot
#

yknow, this doesnt seem like shiggy conversation

lavish ether
#

i think like, only about 70% of the time its about shigi

exotic knot
#

but we could be shigging it

lavish ether
#

let me check for a shigi clip then 😭

#

i think i have one from this season

lavish ether
high cobalt
#

I swear to god when I use it the area isn't that big

lavish ether
grave wraith
#

AND YOU STILL GOT FROZEN I know he died anyway BUT WHAT THE BEANS DOOD

lavish ether
jagged flame
#

Mic got a HUGE buff

#

Why

#

Against some characters it won't matter BUT WHY

jagged flame
#

He got shadow buffed

formal plover
#

Whats different?

grave wraith
#

I too hate when i go deaf and lose super armor

jagged flame
#

Mics beta

#

Or maybe it's a bug?

grave wraith
#

You got a super armor gamma, go test it MtLady

jagged flame
#

A visual bug maybe

#

I can't rn

deep flax
#

How do you hit double special action on a person I see it a lot but every time I do it it hard knocks on the first hit.

unreal halo
lavish ether
#

thought if someone is floating decently high in the air you can land double special even against hp (and you can also add in a air melee after)
but again, it has to be a jump special (aka your character not on the ground)

jagged flame
#

Any cool combos with the jump cancel special action change?

dark stump
#

I was still able to to armor through Strike Shoto Gamma while I had the effect and it looked like I had no armor

grave wraith
#

So just visual, welp

#

Not like mic needs any bug buffs MtLady

limpid patio
grave wraith
#

That should not have been real

dark stump
#

@deep flax tagging you cuz you asked how to do Double Special Action

high cobalt
#

Which one do you guys think is best for a Fixer tuning for Assault Shiggy? Because the one with two strike two assault looks really strong for fixer

cerulean rain
high cobalt
#

Can I get a good explanation why?

cerulean rain
#

A GP damage up, an alpha up, a red slot for whatever you prefer for damage up (personally i have an HP up there), a gamma up all under the fixer slot. Then the other side lets you get another GP up, two more reds (alpha up in the villain slot), nejire and an HP up. You have 320 HP, the option of wall runner, accel, card dupe, really whatever blue special you want. And almost every single slot is a damage up slot

#

With that build my beta does 130, gamma is doing about the same, direct alpha was hitting for 153

#

My build i put two hp ups and gp ups

high cobalt
#

But with the second fit I could get two GP damage up, 1 alpha up (or HP damage up when Strike AFO comes out), a free red and a HP up (Oh or Nejire) all under fixer, I can load up the other side with reload speed, more HP and some defense and yet another red. Would that not result in more damage?

#

-# I am asking genuinely, btw, not trying to question you

cerulean rain
#

No i know, it would probably need to be tested fixer in general is pretty buggy overall with it's multipliers

high cobalt
#

Ohhhh

#

I see

cerulean rain
#

It somehow affects damage increasers as well slightly lol

high cobalt
#

I was wondering why people don't run fixer that much

cerulean rain
#

It's buggy in a way that benefits it

high cobalt
#

Oh!

cerulean rain
#

I compared the damage of two of my builds, one with fixer, one without. With SpA debuff, and two strike cards on the non-fixer build i was getting almost the dame damage on the fixer build with just 1 card and the SpA debuff

#

It's very weird

high cobalt
#

Yikes

#

I would be more willing to test stuff if I owned monoma

cerulean rain
#

This is combat btw

high cobalt
#

But the man won't sell himself for a ticket

high cobalt
#

It's the first one I sent

#

I got both Combat and Danger in the message

cerulean rain
#

Ah yeah hard to tell from a glance, also doing something so can't look a lot

high cobalt
#

Don't worry lol

cerulean rain
#

The wall runner also does help a lot compared to the second skin

#

Since a lot of combos do use gamma having consistent movement does help

#

The second one might end up being better overall in damage but does leave you more vulnerable since less health and less mobility options since no accel to make your gamma fly or wall runner to mix up movement

#

I'll see if i can test the second one later

high cobalt
#

Thanks

cerulean rain
#

The fixer multiplier on combat is also higher

high cobalt
#

Speaking of combos, does guard breaking someone increase the DP?

cerulean rain
#

No

high cobalt
cerulean rain
#

He just got heavily nerfed this season for his downpower

high cobalt
#

I did see that yeah, part of why I'm trying to get a bit of alpha damage on it

#

But I swear when I combo someone it works but if they're halfway through their shields they down immediately after the shield breaks even though I'm not done with the combo

#

Must've poisoned them without knowing

cerulean rain
#

What's the combo you're doing?

high cobalt
#

Just the usual gamma beta gamma beta

cerulean rain
#

I haven't had that knock early so far, did you hit any alphas beforehand?

#

Since alphas downpower is so high now and it does take 3 seconds of no hits for downpower to reset that could be it

high cobalt
#

But it did happen before the update

#

Which, btw, what a BS update, when Strike Denki can basically do the same stuff AND autofarm a downed player

#

Like I get it needed the nerf but this much?

cerulean rain
#

Maybe you're accidentally hitting the direct brick and not realizing it. Assault shig's beta hitbox does spawn on his hand before he throws it and if you're too close that can happen

#

I've done it before

high cobalt
#

Hm maybe

#

Either way just wanted to make sure that it wasn't a mechanic

#

Lol

#

Also, currently trying to see about a gamma build for Strike shiggy using the level 70 License skin, with two HP damage and 4 separate gamma up tunings, to see just how much health through shields one can get

cerulean rain
#

@high cobalt
Dangerous:
Alpha: 88 (spread) 57 (direct) 145 total
Beta: 48 (pulse) 80 (direct) 128 total
Gamma: 52 (dash) 86 (shockwave) 138 total
Collapse hand: 85
Melee 1: 22
Melee 2: 32
Melee 3: 75
Air melee: i forgot lol

Combat:
Alpha: 88 (spread) 58 (direct) 146 total
Beta: 49 (pulse) 81 (direct) 130 total
Gamma: 51 (dash) 84 (shockwave) 135 total
Collapse hand: 86
Melee 1: 22
Melee 2: 33
Melee 3: 75
Air melee: 65

#

Combat ends up better

#

Very very slightly

#

Except for gamma

#

I forgot about air melee when i was testing dangerous but i assume it's 63 or 64 given all the other numbers

#

And honestly that also confirms another theory i had about fixer

#

Which is that it doesn't actually care about the column

high cobalt
#

Wait wait wait

#

I

#

It doesn't????

cerulean rain
#

Apparently lol

high cobalt
#

Does the description not say in the column?

cerulean rain
#

It doesn't care that the two HP ups are under it on the dangerous build, despite combat only having one under the fixer slot it's still hitting harder

cerulean rain
#

That's funny part

#

It's just lying

high cobalt
#

Lmao?????

cerulean rain
#

It cares for hps

#

But damages apparently not

high cobalt
#

That's probably a bug lmao

cerulean rain
#

That or the 2.1 multiplier is just massively gapping the 2.0 multiplier for some reason

#

Which makes no sense

high cobalt
#

Well, these things probably are rounding up

#

Because what did you put in each column?

cerulean rain
#

I'll screenshot in a second, i tested against hp for both because the lack of endeavor on dangerous but obviously with both GP damage ups hp and gp damage would be equal anyways

high cobalt
#

Fym lack of endeavour?

#

Oh because it's not LV 4

cerulean rain
#

I have no assault endeavor data

high cobalt
#

Ohhh

cerulean rain
#

combat

#

dangerous

#

if i had assault endeavor data obvious the GP damage is equal to the hp, but the only thing that dangerous has an edge in for some reason is gamma damage

#

a whole 3 points

high cobalt
#

And here I was trying to get more alpha power

cerulean rain
#

yeah but just boost everything lol

#

130 damage betas? yep lmao

#

i did initially boost alphas with combat, i had 96 or 94 i forget which on GP. and it dropped to like 88-90 on HP lol

#

which isn't bad but why just boost only alpha when i can get a very similar boost to alpha and improve everything else at the same time

#

now if shig ever gets a skin that has 5 damage slots with fixer for some reason then that'll just win

#

if tuning wasn't so expensive i could test just how bugged fixer is

#

because i'd love to test how much of a boost i can get on a skin with 5 red slots not under the fixer slot to fully see how bugged it is but expensive lol

high cobalt
#

But yeah I just thought I could get more simply from alpha focus

cerulean rain
#

i will admit dangerous is better than i initially thought it was

high cobalt
#

But clearly not a worthwhile trade-off

cerulean rain
#

i probably did overlook it due to assault overhaul not existing at the time and just forgetting about it after he dropped lol

high cobalt
#

LOL

cerulean rain
#

but yeah so now we have definitive numbers lol

#

also i should add dangerous to the assault shig guide whenever i get to it since i can just recommend it as a GP/Card dupe build while still pointing out the other one is better in everything except gamma lol

high cobalt
#

I think I would probably be right if Fixer wasn't broken

#

Now that I think about it

cerulean rain
#

Probably

#

But this game is programmed on sticks and duct tape for the nes

high cobalt
#

But yeah well, I'll be, confirmed combat is still the better one

#

And you even get more HP and special action reload

#

Or gamma reload if you want to be able to dash more often

#

But, no HP there

cerulean rain
#

Having AFO as the HP is the best option tbh

#

8 extra HP

#

It's especially nice since the storm buffs

#

Storm hurts now

high cobalt
#

Right

#

It sure does

#

All so you really wanna get that stars and stripes

cerulean rain
#

I think it's shig's tankiest offensive skin too

high cobalt
#

Also, I forget the upcoming tech bakugo tuning will be PU charge and gamma damage, that might work for the stupid Strike Shiggy gamma build

cerulean rain
#

Probably

high cobalt
#

I mean, damn

#

How many slots are that?

#

And defense on top

cerulean rain
#

Unfortunately neither of the fixer skins can run it without losing another damage up lol

high cobalt
#

Or HP lol

#

But anyway, thanks for everything man! You've been Hella helpful

cerulean rain
#

Healthwise he ends up at 253 GP and 320 HP

#

Which is insane lol

high cobalt
cerulean rain
#

Yeah iirc the immortal build skin for tech shig puts tech shig at 253 and 260 but has a bunch of defense ups

#

So it probably evens out in tankiness before accounting for the special tunings

#

Overall less damage though obviously

high cobalt
#

Obviously

#

TIL you can air collapse hand into primary fire with tech Shiggy and god does it hurt

cerulean rain
#

Yep

#

It hurts on all shigs though lol
Assault doing collapse > melee 1 > direct alpha
Strike shig doing collapse > melee 1 > melee 2 cancel > alpha > gamma

high cobalt
#

How do you cancel melee 2?

cerulean rain
#

Delay it as much as possible after melee 1 while not doing any directional input

#

If you timed it properly you should be able to cancel melee 2 whenever, obviously you'd wait until after the hitbox connects though

high cobalt
#

... I'm starting to think some animation cancels aren't intentional

cerulean rain
#

probably not

high cobalt
#

That's why I haven't been able to cancel melee 2???

#

MF

cerulean rain
#

Melee 2 naturally just has more lag

#

So most people just do 2 melee 1s if they don't want to try doing the cancel

#

Some characters can escape melee 1 > alpha > gamma from strike shig though

#

But it does work if they aren't expecting it and does a lot of damage

thorn knoll
#

Wait what happened to yellow shiggy

#

What nerf did he get?

stiff lark
cerulean rain
# thorn knoll What nerf did he get?

Gamma 2 now has 250 downpower instead of 100 gamma 1 is still 10 downpower
Alpha's brick is now 100 downpower and the spread is 75 downpower on each hitbox for a total of 150 from the spread. 250 with every hitbox

#

The only upside is that direct beta and both gamma hitboxes have hitstop now making followups much easier

#

For example it reliably makes gamma 2 a combo tool on GP

#

So gamma 2 > collapse hand now works on GP instead of just HP

high cobalt
#

Oh well that's nice

#

I just wish I could still use a bit of alpha barrage

#

But now you just get shoved out of it on the third alpha

#

Which honestly against most players you were landing about that many anyway because they can roll out of it!

thorn knoll
#

Certainly limits his combo potential

#

But at least he didn’t lose everything

stiff lark
broken lodge
#

Also the freeze when you hit someone with beta and gamma just makes him feel so worse to play

cerulean rain
#

The only upside to the downpower changes is at least he can get people off of him easier and cares a bit less about armor

cerulean rain
#

@high cobalt btw i did test it, the column does matter still

#

So i was wrong, the 2.1 multiplier is just making a big difference there then

high cobalt
#

Okay okay damn, kinda crazy, then

high cobalt
lavish ether
jagged flame
#

@limpid patio did you get perma banned?

#

Or just temporary

limpid patio
#

temp

#

just shadow banned, like for the 50th time

deep moon
#

What's yalls thoughts on
Tech Shiggy

broken lodge
#

idk what did they do

high cobalt
#

Ok ok just wanted to know if you made sure

fleet harbor
# deep moon What's yalls thoughts on Tech Shiggy

He’s still very strong. Not as much as an aggressive offensive force necessarily. But his ability to sustain and to stop heals is a really big deal. He’s very well built for a battle royale.

I will say, even though they’ve been CONSTANTLY hitting his alpha. His issue is and always has been his tunings having no cooldown. It’s what makes the character so good at surviving

#

Definitely a top tier. Some people think strongest in the game….. not too sure I agree just by design, but I respect the opinion

#

I think strongest character in the game, in the right hands, is probably just OFA Deku

deep moon
high cobalt
#

"right hands"? hell, and the wrong hands, too. He's so annoying

lavish ether
#

i have never really had a problem with OFA Deku

#

its morso not a character im worried about but the player
i would rather fight OFA Deku than a player who has a mastery over any character cause they are annoying to fight

limpid patio
#

ofa deku players really arent a problem, i just hate the ones that lag like crazy. Same with lida players

#

they already move fast and adding a hitbox you can barely touch 80% of the time doesnt help

lavish ether
#

Laggy rapid Mirio also falls into that group 😭

#

so many times im far out of range of his beta and it will still hit

fleet harbor
cerulean rain
#

tap beta has tracking, melee has tracking, gamma dash has tracking for some reason, obviously overdrive does, air melee, he's just oops, all tracking

#

it's a skill-less player's dream

#

why learn how to play the game when the character will literally play it for them with built in autocombos

lavish ether
#

The only pro about it being so skill-less is the players will never discover skill so they become easy to read

fleet harbor
#

Unfortunately he also has a high skill ceiling because of his movement with a ranged alpha

#

That’s why he’s scary

limpid patio
formal plover
grave wraith
#

I mean i cant lie, kinda did, i hate seeing tech shigarakis just win off that weenie hut jr build (revenge stuff not yours) and even if they go down heres dumb frog or something to start the process again

limpid raptor
limpid patio
storm bay
#

shiggy was feeling her up 😭

limpid patio
#

whenever mirko releases ill just play that whole season then most likely dipping, this lag stuff is just hurting me too much atp

fleet harbor
#

I almost never experience anything like that

limpid patio
#

ye

storm bay
#

Is jpn your native server even

#

I also don't see that happening often

limpid patio
#

i live in aus, jp is the closest i can get

storm bay
#

💔

limpid patio
#

ive played the game since launch like this too lmao, it took me like 5-6 seasons to realize i had ping delay and that the game had servers set up

#

whenever i watch others play their attacks are almost instant which weirds me out

storm bay
#

The clips does look like ss1 shiggy grab hitbox

#

😭

#

Idk how people even hit it back then, enemies were just sliding off your hand

limpid patio
#

i remember there being a bug that just allowed you to carry ppl into storm and kill them

#

i still rarely get that bug except they stay in my hand for like 3-4 seconds then it relocates itself

terse pelican
#

the only reason s1 shiggy wasnt completely miserable to use is because people were stupid

#

he had one gamma and the distance scaled with levels

#

to the point the general players consensus was beta max first

limpid patio
#

beta felt different back then, idk if they nerfed it over the seasons i kinda skipped over some of them after s1

#

it felt strong tho

#

might've just been the reload speed

limpid raptor
#

I love red shiggy

#

first game & win of the day too

exotic knot
maiden rain
exotic knot
high cobalt
#

Lmao cheataraki over here

maiden rain
high cobalt
#

Well I can't make puns with the other two

#

Well

#

Kimicheatma works

limpid raptor
exotic knot
limpid raptor
#

aint no way

novel ridge
limpid patio
#

when it works

#

but yeah that also happens to me, with any character too. ill hide behind cover and still get hit because of delay and the server not being in real time

native socket
#

Tech shiggy tuning that isnt raid boss build pls

exotic knot
native socket
# exotic knot i like double sucker

And how should i be playing w this build ? Rn im runing revenge support and something irrelevant cuz i didnt have anything and for most of the time i just go in and spam my moves because my gamma + revenge support allows me to take ridiculous amount of damage but w double sucker i cant do that

exotic knot
#

its only viable if you down people consistently

native socket
limpid patio
native socket
exotic knot
formal plover
native socket
formal plover
#

The beta does tho

native socket
#

Hmm both builds seem good ngl

warped glade
native socket
warped glade
warped glade
storm bay
#

What a beautiful language

native socket
exotic knot
#

what is even being said

native socket
#

In french

exotic knot
#

ah

#

well

warped glade
exotic knot
#

im p sure you need to speak english in this server unless its one of 2 channels

storm bay
#

bichette

native socket
native socket
exotic knot
warped glade
native socket
warped glade
#

prepare zit zitoun

warped glade
exotic knot
#

also why is this guy just mad at you in french

native socket
#

Idk he's insane dawg

warped glade
#

bro n'est pas dans un edit 💔 🥀

native socket
warped glade
#

aucun mod va venir me chercher dans ce channel au nom

#

jpeux dire ce que je veux

warped glade
#

je own ce channel mtn

#

merci pour les traveaux papa est de retour

high cobalt
#

ew french

jagged flame
#

Um ok?

umbral tusk
#

Anyone have some tech shigi builds that I can see? Don't really know what I should be doing on him besides double sucker

#

But I don't think I can get downs consistently so🤷🤷

storm bay
umbral tusk
exotic knot
storm bay
exotic knot
umbral tusk
storm bay
#

Double sucker is kinda bad

#

In comparison to double revenge lmao

exotic knot
exotic knot
limpid patio
#

i wonder how many ppl would drop tech shiggy as soon as he loses that build fr

hot moss
#

Everyone

exotic knot
lavish ether
#

Omg its Coffee :>

exotic knot
limpid patio
storm bay
#

Those alphas are way too fast lmao

lavish ether
#

i think he would only be able to do that with Either Double speed cards or Accel, if not then probably cheats

limpid patio
#

i dont think speed cards or accel affect his alphas

exotic knot
#

accel would

limpid patio
#

accel was the first tuning ppl tried and it doesnt, it only affects his beta

lavish ether
#

tbh i have gone back to pocket speed cards this season, its fun with red shigi for rapid Alpha's

hot moss
lavish ether
fleet harbor
#

Or more likely latency issue

#

Because I haven’t seen or heard anything about an exploit that can do that

formal plover
#

Effect?

fleet harbor
#

Affect is a verb, effect is a noun

formal plover
#

I forget which is which thx

cerulean rain
#

For some reason scuttlebug boosts the speed of tech shig alpha despite every other ability in all three of the shig's kits gets rid of scuttlebug

#

Assault shig's alpha, beta and gamma all remove scuttlebug. Strike shig's alpha, beta and gamma all remove scuttle bug. Tech shig's beta and gamma remove scuttlebug but not his alpha

#

You can even see him collapse hand there so he probably ended up getting it off of that collapse hand. Scuttlebug only shows up on the end of the person who has it so you have no way of telling if they have it or not though

broken lodge
#

It's been happening way too often recently