Tomura Shigaraki

[marble spruce]

me hitting the monoma at max height with my held gamma (its peak)

[umbral stream]

Why does mine fall and sometimes they don’t

[lyric prawn]

hold it and you fall

press it and you just launch yourself

[stiff lark]

honestly idk also you have no tuning on so you might need to use another alpha at the end of the combo

[quartz kestrel]

After hitting full gamma you can combo into beta and then gamma then SpA

[umbral stream]

Ok

[quartz kestrel]

I did that once it felt so good

[marble spruce]

i really need to improve my combo game on him. i only know the super basic ones

[stiff lark]

also theres this silly tech i wanna show you

[umbral stream]

Ok

[hot moss]

I mean alpha max first isn't bad but I would usually tell people to beta max first because it's more efficient in UA/CC late game.
Especially when they're new to playing Strike. Beta max is easier to work with.

It is also what can rack up kills for you a lot easier than alpha can unless it's flat open ground in the final zone which it usually never is on those maps.
(But alpha max in USJ is understandable)
Beta has a lot of strong uses besides just being a "get of me tool".

His alpha also doesn't increase in range beyond level 5 anyway, it's just the circles that get bigger, giving it that illusion, but it's easy enough to work with level 5 alphas only.

[stiff lark]

you have to land infront of them to do it

[lyric prawn]

normally beta just scales up as you find more cards towards end game, thats why i dont really focus beta early game
beta end game is absolutely dominant tho i agree with thaty

alpha damage and just catching people off guard is the best application for me
you really can just melt someone with max alphas and kill them in a matter of seconds

[umbral stream]

Ok ima go rank with what I learned

Did you give me your lvl up order or just random ones?

[stiff lark]

ok i,m glad i shared some of my shigiraki knowledge

[umbral stream]

I am to thx

[quartz kestrel]

Once you get familiar with him youll start freestyling combos

[umbral stream]

Ok after I throw my first beta gamma and then throw the second beta he somtimes falls why?

[marble spruce]

true, ive been messing around with throwing SA into some combos and its hella satisfying

i still think shiggy should have his sa duration buffed. it feels so short

[stiff lark]

level up guide is g4,b4,g9,b9,a9, or g4,b4,a4,g9,b9,a9 idk normally if you hit them with 2 betas their hard

[umbral stream]

Oh ok thx

[stiff lark]

i,mma go eat now

[umbral stream]

Ok

[hot moss]

If they're not paying attention, are already pretty low, or you have teammates that can trap the enemy somewhere you can shred them with alphas but it's not usually gonna happen in just seconds since many characters can take to the sky quick enough.

Unless you predict a flier's landing and stack alphas, then they basically disintegrate as soon as they touch the ground lol
(Peak satisfaction btw)

[marble spruce]

direct hits with beta do 250 knockdown value per each one

hard knockdown is 500 knockdown value total

[lyric prawn]

playing strike shiggy in a rapid meta really could be painful sometimes

[umbral stream]

This for assault?

[marble spruce]

yes

[lyric prawn]

but yea melting a nejire thats fresh out of SpA is actually so satisfying

they can do nothing but hop around on the ground before they die

[umbral stream]

So don’t do a direct hit?

[lyric prawn]

people really underestimate how far shiggys alpha can actually spread on buildings and such

[marble spruce]

if youre looking to not end your combo early, you should not direct hit on the second beta. first is probably fine

[lyric prawn]

its such a good move for catchign some dude like 2 buildings over and scaring them

[umbral stream]

Ok

What’s a good strike shigi lvl order

[lyric prawn]

i posted one up there eariler but that ones just my personal opinion

it just depends on your playstyle honestly but its mostly alpha beta focused with gamma used mainly for movement or for picking off low rapids

[hot moss]

Even then her hop height gives her an annoying advantage and she can still air stall with beta or gamma 😔

For me if I'm fighting one that doesn't have her Special available and she starts hopping around, I'll sometimes take the risk of getting up close and personal if it's just a 1v1.
Risky since her beta and gamma are good at keeping people at bay of course,
But I have Space Hop so if I do manage to close distance I can smack her out of the air and then I can try to keep her caught in a very repetitive wake-up catching cycle with air melee into normal melees, into gamma, or Special. Something I've been working on a lot to improve on lately.
Give Nejires no chance to play the game one they're knocked down even once pff

[lyric prawn]

lol you ever hit a nejire with the spA midair

[hot moss]

Yessss it's beautiful hehe

[lyric prawn]

its such a power move

almost no damage but its just so disheartening

[lyric prawn]

spacehop with shiggy is fun yea the movement would be crazy

[hot moss]

Best thing I've ever managed to pull off which I don't think was even supposed to work
Was once I gamma-dived off of one of the tall spires on USJ mountain zone and grabbed a Nejire floating around below.
The grab connected and I dragged her down to the ground with the chokehold.
I can't remember if that actually took her Down or not but it was so worth it either way and it was the one time I managed to do that so flawlessly :')

[lyric prawn]

😭

my best shiggy movements aside from the thousand damage valleys of death

are probably when someone is comboing a teammate

and i rush in with his gamma and grabs them away

some real hero shi

[hot moss]

That does feel good to save a teammate like that hehe

Also feels nice to be the one helping a teammate combo someone
Like Aizawa or Ibara gammas into your grab.

Speaking of Ibara,
If she grabs someone you can Special them so her gamma does more damage and it won't knock them out of her grasp, then follow up with your own grab and it's curtains :3

I found that out by accident but it's already known

[lyric prawn]

lol thats hilarious

ibara grabs for so long

[hot moss]

If Ibara (for some reason) has Embrittlement and she somehow manages to land a melee before a grab, then Shiggy uses both Specials which do stack the defence down, and then follows up her grab with his own...
Hmmmmmmmm

[marble spruce]

if you embrit ibara grab into shiggy grab no one is living

embrit ibara already does like 300 hp damage lol

[quartz kestrel]

yaboisponge reminded me of this combo, i need to practice it more

[marble spruce]

example

[marble spruce]

this is clean i need to do this to someone

[quartz kestrel]

i think its better to not do the second full gamma now that i think about it

cancel the first hit of the second gamma with beta and finish off with special action or start chucking alphas

[hot moss]

True, the extra Defence Down is just good tho if neither gammas are highly levelled at the time

[quartz kestrel]

this combo should be a lot better

[marble spruce]

so wait

embrittlement and shiggy sa stack?

[hot moss]

I believe so
I know his own double SA on someone does

[stiff lark]

good to see

[marble spruce]

i wonder if you can get a whole team to stack lol

40% from two teammates running embrittlement, and 40% from 2 shiggy special actions

80% defence down 😭

[hot moss]

Someone may have tested that before
I just haven't had the opportunity to test it myself

[limpid patio]

just wanted to feel the air anyway

[lyric prawn]

the mt lady has lion priority

[marble spruce]

bro grabbed hagakure

[lyric prawn]

LOL

[limpid patio]

sort of crazy how that glitch is back, it was fixed not too long ago lol

[lyric prawn]

byking needs to lock in

[quartz kestrel]

all the grabs are broken except for all might

[hot moss]

That happened to me recently and I got severely Mic'ed as a result :')

[limpid patio]

mic needs to get nerfed next, hes still one of the top characters i fear fighting against

[lyric prawn]

mic and twice has evaded the nerf patch for several seasons now

[hot moss]

Fr

[quartz kestrel]

That punch does too much dmg

[marble spruce]

mic nerf will make me so happy

[hot moss]

Twice I'm not really bothered by so much anymore since they're one-tricks and just too easy to predict and bait
But he is definitely still more annoying than he should be.
If players will neglect using key parts of a character's kit in favor of doing something so rinse and repeat, there's a problem.

Like I know Twice players that have said they literally never use his alpha and say it's his worst move.... I don't play him yet I know those knives can shred hp.
Paired with the beta clone they literally can do a LOT.
He doesn't need to do the same combo stuff over and over and over and over.

But Mic... good lord...

[marble spruce]

im tired seeing clips of him guard breaking in two shots with his sa active

[hot moss]

Yeah his gamma doing more damage when teammates die is such a weird idea because it means Mics will almost never want to help you lol
They get rewarded by you being taken out, which is so backwards for a team game.

[quartz kestrel]

So thats whats making it do a ton of dmg

[hot moss]

That and of course the blessing (curse) of tuning
Though attack tuning got nerfed it was just a light tickle to that guy's damage output

But that's also why preferably you wanna try and take out Mic before his teammates if possible. Though if he has an insta-rez that'd be quite hard.

[jagged flame]

Happened to me once
The game is broken

The thing is most ppl don't have Present Mic

Even I don't have him

[limpid patio]

happens to me alot, i just finished a game and my gamma only grabbed twice, just did the stun thing the whole time

[jagged flame]

It sucks

I got the gamma bug in a match

But my gamma was already maxed out

[lyric prawn]

canon compress

he just put you in an edit

[jagged flame]

I had to use PU to make his gamma work again

[lyric prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/atsuhiro-sako-mr-compress-bhna-mr-compress-mha-mr-compress-atsuhiro-sako-mha-gif-10459844253338381463

this was that compress to you

[limpid patio]

Idk how many ppl here use mouse, but ever since I started playing this game it's always had an issue with inconsistent sensitivity, sometimes it fells really slow with a bit of input lag but its the game that does it. Wondering if anyone has the same issue or knows how to fix it?

[lyric prawn]

i have something similar and it happens when i move my mouse really fast and it feels like its lagged back
but i thought that was just me

and sometimes my camera goes spinning up in to the air when im moving the mouse fast too

[limpid patio]

slapped her

[hot moss]

Assault 😔

[marble spruce]

Assault 💛

[dark stump]

Assault 😒

[jagged flame]

A salt

[dark stump]

a lil late but

https://tenor.com/view/saturday-shigaraki-my-hero-academia-mha-gif-2815349654891493537

[marble spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/saturday-shigaraki-my-hero-academia-mha-gif-2815349654891493537

[long python]

Support shiggy?

[marble spruce]

yes

hi

[limpid patio]

i want someday

[long python]

Ill hook yalls up with the build

Red shiggy support

The two costumes best for it

The tuning skills

I get wins back to back from it

Easy

[marble spruce]

how quick do you rescue civs with it

ive never actually used this tuning

[long python]

Fast

[marble spruce]

would drop so much for this

[long python]

It's broke on shiggy

Due to him breaking building fast

Like 2 seconds

Pink pants better than the other go for that if have

All you need to do is alpha downed pple block pathways and other parts and you good

And keep team healthy

[hot moss]

I'd wear
But still wouldn't make me swap out my current outfit as my primary fit.
I just love Londoner Shiggy too much 😔

[long python]

Londoner?

[long python]

Very close to it

Just need to deku skill

[jagged flame]

Nah

I like Space Hop

[long python]

What are you jumping for tho

Ask yourself that question

[jagged flame]

Dang

[long python]

What does that really do for him since you can double special action now

It already gets you over the walls already

[jagged flame]

More height

[long python]

Jump pads

[jagged flame]

Discombobulates the opponent during fights lol

[long python]

That time for that will make another team third party you

Close out fights fast in this game or get thrid partied

No need to jump when you gonna alpha pple in a room

[jagged flame]

Also it gets you out of alot of bad situations

[long python]

Well I mean alpha when pple chilling in a room

[long python]

What is bad situation

👀

Unless you purposely put yourself into one

[jagged flame]

https://tenor.com/view/yuki-kaguya-shinomiya-gif-24132804

[long python]

You watch the support shiggy video made by wman206

What r your afterthoughts

[jagged flame]

Be more aggressive

[hot moss]

Bruh Space Hope alone has made my survivability go up 100% to the point I'm the last person standing in the majority of matches I play.

It helps escape, traverse, and confuse really well, as well as be a good scouting tool to get a lay of the scene around you

[long python]

Just been about 8 days for me my red shiggy teamates dying

Im at a lost how yalls feeding them

Space hop or not they been dying

No one play support shiggy

At this point im leaving my games cause of them

Rinse repeat they die so fast

[hot moss]

Yeah my red Shiggy teammates die all the time too which is one reason why I never swap off lol

But I also doubt you've yet had any Space Hop teammates. It's pretty slept on atm

[long python]

Revive them they go back to fight die and I revive again

[long python]

Space hop can help you survive

But

You can already do that already without it

[hot moss]

And you can survive just fine without playing Support. Argument works both ways lol

[long python]

Like you will survive

But how about the team

It's a team game

[hot moss]

Tbf a lot of us are mostly solo players anyway, we're not really gonna be breaking our backs for our team enough to try and play him as a pure Support when there would just be infinitely better character choices to fill that role if we really wanted to do that. Especially in Ranked. Shiggy is more rewarded as a main aggressor in Ranked, that's how he gets good points.

[jagged flame]

The team is me

Without me, there is no team

[long python]

Every character get rewarded point for cooking

[hot moss]

Yeah, not to sound selfish but same.

[long python]

That is selfish tho

😢

Community wild

[jagged flame]

If he gets a support skill set

Which he won't

I'll use it

[long python]

Strike doesn't mean crash out all the time

Look at compress

Proof of it

I think of red shiggy as a support that gives red passive which is good for the team

[jagged flame]

I love compress

[long python]

Tech dabi is the tech version

Momo the green version

[jagged flame]

I don't like her

I really really hate her

[long python]

I dont see how yalls do it when pple can also use space hop and look at you and proceed to beam you etc

[hot moss]

Tech Dabi is good Support
I didn't mind playing a more supportive role with him back when I played him

[long python]

Shiggy is broken support thats what im tryna tell yalls

I literally play him and win

Randomly

Tryna make yalls eat good out here

[hot moss]

There's a difference between just having Space Hop and knowing how to use it well.
Ain't nobody beaming me down lol

[long python]

👀 👀 👀 idk captain

They getting destroyed on my team

[jagged flame]

Most ppl don't know how good space hop is

[long python]

Pple dont know how good civ save is

Can save 30-40 pple in a game

Thats team heals right there

Can't lose

[hot moss]

Well they're them, we're us.

Many Shiggies people have on their team are likely to be moderately new players since he's a free character by default.

Or people picking him up only recently since his buffs and don't know how to use him well yet. Which I've noticed seems to be the case usually nowadays.

It'd be different if you're paired with a veteran

[long python]

And then you battle veteran playrs

[hot moss]

And I win

[long python]

We're he in those tournament 👀 👀 👀

I remember a bird winning i think

Flyer

[hot moss]

What tournament? The official?

[jagged flame]

Imagine not role-playing the character that you're using

Sounded better in my head

[hot moss]

Lmaoo

[long python]

All good I tried to help lol

[long python]

Unless im bamboozled and he won

Heard a bird won for sure yeah the official

[hot moss]

I mean the winners were a team of pre-nerf Sisterly abusers that nobody in the community actually accepted as the winners lol

[jagged flame]

Still thinking about how dumb it was

50% damage reduction

[hot moss]

Literally

[long python]

They need to do that in unranked

I literally revived a shiggy 3 times and he got 0 kills with that style

[jagged flame]

Characters like Kirishima and Mt Lady were crazy with sisterly

[long python]

Demon work

[jagged flame]

Kirishima could have 80% damage reduction

With his SA

[hot moss]

Tbf idk if I ever saw a Kiri with it but I saw a few Mt Ladys

[long python]

Pple didn't know how to play around it so they used it in my opinion

😢

[jagged flame]

Mt Lady was just crazy with sisterly

They'll just hit you and then get huge

You're done for

[hot moss]

It was annoying as heck but I can't recall losing to many Sisterly abusers ngl. The fights were just much more dragged out, but the players themselves would get reckless and think they're immortal. Fishing too hard for the melees

[jagged flame]

Now I see more ppl using embrittlement than sisterly

[hot moss]

Which is also annoying that other characters get more from it than Shiggy himself does

Make it make sense

[long python]

If any red shiggy tryna play let me know

Ill hook you up with levels helas whatever yalls needs

I need to gather information on yalls

[hot moss]

Why do you need to gather information? 👀

[dark stump]

I could play with ya after a while and show you the Space Hop + Wall Run Shiggy dream

[long python]

I see that build alot for sure

[hot moss]

A lot?
I've seen like 4 of us in total with it lol

[long python]

Everyone like those mobility skills

Shiggys and others characters be using that same combination

[hot moss]

I've seen it on Momos mostly

[dark stump]

Tech Denkis beens using em too

[long python]

I am a momo main lowkey

But can use like half the cast

[hot moss]

Mobility skills on many characters especially Shiggy just work so well and make them more fun to play as a whole
That's why we don't really want to give it up for Support Tunings.

Besides if Support Shiggy really is broken that's gonna make me even less inclined to wanna make mine Support anyway lol

[jagged flame]

I can use every character but I only use like 8 of them

[hot moss]

I can use a whopping total of

1

[jagged flame]

You forget Tech Dabi

[hot moss]

No I didn't :')

I love him but I can't do that guy justice.
I couldn't even decide what build I ever wanted for him.
For Shiggy I knew exactly, but not with Dabi 😔
I've wasted a lot of resources on a lot of his outfits

[jagged flame]

You can't abandon Tech Dabi

😢

[long python]

Talked to a friend. Yeah the new matchmaking really giving me new shiggy players 🙏 🪦

They really jumping into game with no knowledge

Rank grind no unranked

😢

[hot moss]

I had to :')
Tbh it was mostly because he just doesn't work for me anymore. Not the meta or anything.
Idk what happened but his alphas lost most of their tracking for me entirely.
Like people could stand still and they'd miss.
I just didn't have fun playing a character that doesn't work properly, and as bad as his alphas are anyway they do have some importance. It got too annoying trying to deal with them never doing anything. Every person was able to escape a fight because of it even if they were one-shot.

But if the alphas can be fixed then I may pick him back up.
Even if he doesn't get any buffs, idc, I just want the alphas to work.

-# Ignore the fact that Shiggy gamma doesn't work properly either right now tho. Cough cough. I still find him fun at least

[hot moss]

The matchmaking in this game will never be good istg lol

[long python]

I survive long. So game gave me fresh new players 😢

[jagged flame]

The TV I'm using

The backlight just went dim

Significantly

I did everything to make to screen brighter but it seems like it can't get brighter

TV is dying

[hot moss]

Ruh roh

Need to save for a new one

[umbral stream]

Should I max shigaraki beta first then alpha

[jagged flame]

The backlight is burning out

[hot moss]

Ideally yeah

[jagged flame]

It's the LED strip that's inside TV's and Monitors

[umbral stream]

Ok so I’m do that first

[hot moss]

Ohh dang my TV doesn't even have those

[jagged flame]

Well this TV is old

[long python]

Now i remember you. You was the shiggy when I did the PU tech with overhaul

Mans in my video

[dark stump]

Yeah that was me

I legit thought you were hacking until I saw you were streaming

[long python]

You probably saw my support shiggy in action

Maybe idk

[dark stump]

I did see that yeah

Like 2 of your Support Shiggy videos

[long python]

Just know its mad solid

[hot moss]

You're really tryna sell that lol

[long python]

U see it 👀 👀 👀 👀

[hot moss]

I haven't been able to watch anything if you mean the videos

[long python]

See the other side of gaming

The hack worthy but its not

Thr enemy team will be like how these guys getting healed all day???????

😈

Nah i aint got the pur so im using a fraction of its full potential

Still put in work

The momo games looks like this with it

Shiggy can get more

Due to special action breaking down buildings fast etc

He got two now

[hot moss]

Yeah I wouldn't spend that long getting civs when I could be fighting pff
3 is all I need

[long python]

Assist points here for helping

[dark stump]

Shiggy being able to destroy any building with Special Action is definitely super useful, but even with that I honestly don't see him shining in the support role so significantly higher than being in the fight.
Storm camping Shiggy I will agree tho is super valuable, 1 grab and they just die in the right circumstances.

I can't agree with how you see pure support to be his best usage though. Yes his supportive capabilities are insane, but his offensive capabilities aren't much different from any other Strike character imo. Especially with TUNING, he's one of the higher mobility characters which allows him to get out of a lot of situations scott-free.
Most don't even take 50% advantage of that tho, which is why many of your Shiggy teammates die off revive, even if they have Wall Run.

[hot moss]

Yeah it's cool if a full Support playstyle works for ya but it seems like an acquired taste kinda thing lol

[limpid patio]

wow tuning really nerfed this season, i tried to max assault shiggys beta and it goes up by 3

[hot moss]

Oof

[jagged flame]

Yep

[quartz kestrel]

Yeah I think it used to be 2.5 * 2.5 * 2.5 = 15.6

Correct me if im wrong

Now its 2.5 + 2.5 + 2.5 = 7.5

[jagged flame]

Yep

Exponential tuning is gone

My shiggy alpha used to deal 132 damage on hp

[limpid patio]

so did mine

[quartz kestrel]

Now it does what?

[limpid patio]

like 112 for me

[jagged flame]

I'm gonna check

[quartz kestrel]

sheesh thats a decrease of 15%

now wonder why ppl were complaining about dmg back then

[hot moss]

I don't play him so I wouldn't know

[jagged flame]

This was my build

[limpid patio]

this is for strike or assault

[jagged flame]

I don't use Assault Shiggy

[quartz kestrel]

I run the same costume for asshigy

Trance blow is interesting tho lol

[hot moss]

I haven't paid any attention to what my Strike build does but it still does a fair good load of damage
Just need Overhaul data and I can 2-shot 300hp folks with gamma

[limpid patio]

oh yeah his gamma is fixed now

[quartz kestrel]

Stealh fix?

[limpid patio]

his gamma tunning wouldn't work, same with momos, it was just the hp damage but now it works

[hot moss]

Yeah

[quartz kestrel]

Oh

[hot moss]

If only they fixed the rest of his gamma

[jagged flame]

Just checked

Now my alpha deals 120 damage on hp

[grand mantle]

Mine does 150

[jagged flame]

Can you show your build then?

You must be lying then

[limpid patio]

Theres no way you could reach 150, even before the nerf with 1 alpha. maybe unless its something really specific like having a full strike team, with a strike card fighting a team with no defense buffs or smth like that but i dont usually count those as anything, too tedious to try and pull off

[jagged flame]

I used to get over 150 with special action applied

Awakened (Hero Style) can use fixer but there's not enough damage tunings in the same column

[dark stump]

Before stacking 3 of the same damage tuning at max level used to be (1.025)^7 = 18.8% damage increase

Now it's fixed to be (1.025)^3 = 7.6% damage increase

[quartz kestrel]

How did it multiply by itself 7 times if its only 3?

[jagged flame]

Because

The devs didn't test tuning

[dark stump]

I'm not a fan of people calling the change a "nerf", the fact that it used to give an absurd increase like that was probably unintentional, because for some reason 3 damage tunings was giving the same effect of 7 individual ones stacked.

[jagged flame]

Let's be real
They only fixed it because Monoma released

[dark stump]

Yeah thank god

[quartz kestrel]

Yeah that probably made them notice when they designed fixer

[limpid patio]

i thought it was on purpose

which is why you leveled them up

[dark stump]

It was broken

btw, stacking 2 damage tunings before gave the effect of 3 individual ones stacked

[limpid patio]

and they left it like that for this long

[jagged flame]

I got a 32% damage increase with my alpha last season

[quartz kestrel]

Tuning was broken literally

[jagged flame]

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't shiggy max alpha damage without tuning deals 100 damage?

[limpid patio]

yea

[dark stump]

Without his Strike Passive, yeah

[jagged flame]

Yeah I'm glad they fixed it

[dark stump]

Yeah I'm more of a fan of his it is now

[jagged flame]

Now I deal 120 damage against hp

[dark stump]

Before you can just double stack Alpha Beta Gamma and get crazy damage

[jagged flame]

Still a significant increase

[dark stump]

Now you have to be more committed to which move you want to increase

[limpid patio]

keep in mind, this is without assault characters tho, alot of ppl are using yellow deku and ochaco

you will probably still be doing a bit less

[jagged flame]

Ik

[dark stump]

Yeah like 112-116

[limpid patio]

still not bad tho

[dark stump]

I mean you can fix that by having a strike in your team lol

Triple Strike is still crazy

20% increase 🥶

and we have characters like Mic and Shinso

and Strike Shoto

[limpid patio]

strike shoto beta scares me so much, that thing hits hard and its hit box is out of range, thats how it feels anyway

[dark stump]

And it comes out instantly now

Welcome back Season 1-2 Shoto

tho he's actually way better than he was back then, which is crazy

[quartz kestrel]

Nah his gamma used to last longer

That was crazy

[limpid patio]

i never got to experience season 2 or 3, was too dumb during season 1, all i remember was bakugo, froppy and even shiggys beta being meta, and the awful knockout system

when you would down someone but it didnt count as yours if someone else finished them off

[hot moss]

I miss the earlier seasons

[jagged flame]

Not to mention but the hitbox lingers for a bit

[quartz kestrel]

Bakugo alpha used to do 100+ before tuning

[jagged flame]

That's before his alpha got nerfed

[broken pollen]

Yall recommend Nejire tuning for Red/Assault?

Or is it troll

[quartz kestrel]

Idk about strike but for assault i think it is a troll

[hot moss]

That or Assault Ochaco's Tuning are both good tbh

Assault I wouldn't say is necessary but I have seen some people use it for him

[grand mantle]

Oh i had strikes on my team

[jagged flame]

@long python you weren't being a support Monoma

[stiff lark]

use assualt ochacos on assualt if you can

[long python]

Mans want the best character to be support

Thats crazy work

[jagged flame]

I was the Compress

Also that was really annoying

[long python]

We're you on my team?

When was this?

[jagged flame]

I wasn't on your team

Not too long ago

[long python]

If it was yesterday I forgot

I just checked today's video to see

[jagged flame]

Was on U.A island

You did that stupid mirio combo with all might gamma

Honestly made me pretty mad

[long python]

It's cool 😎

[jagged flame]

I'm so salty

I might block you

☠️

[long python]

@jagged flame

Was this the combo?

[jagged flame]

Yes

[hot moss]

Monoma 😔

[long python]

That very good if you hit someone in air

[indigo scarab]

Wait they nerfed tuning stacking?

[flint girder]

Yup

[marble spruce]

lol your pfp is awesome

[flint girder]

Thanks!

[long python]

@jagged flame carry me plz

👀

it would bug out when we team up

[jagged flame]

@long python server timed out LMAO

[quartz kestrel]

broken glasses gaming

assault shiggy feels so nice now that his alpha feels like an actual move

esp early game

[flint girder]

How much stronger did they make it?

[tawdry notch]

Catastrophe?

[flint girder]

Yup

[tawdry notch]

This direct alpha hit gets an increase in damage from 3-5 more damage

While his cracks on the ground after the alpha lands get a constant 5 increase in damage

[flint girder]

Okay nice

[tawdry notch]

We so up

Catastrophe gets buffed

[flint girder]

We’re still far from the 50% damage reduction we got back in the days x)

[tawdry notch]

Yeah but we can K.O faster now

Late game is our game

[flint girder]

I really like Assault Shiggy so any buff is appreciated anyway

[limpid patio]

Yellows alpha has 2 ticks right

Does the 5 increase on each tick? Making it 10 extra damage?

[cerulean rain]

His alpha is back at it's old damage numbers

[hollow salmon]

yo i finally got an shiggy PU skin (suit)

did they fix red shiggy gamma?

[hot moss]

Smelly

[jagged flame]

Embrittlement got nerfed to 10%

[dark stump]

Finally, we have the superior Embrittlement

[flint girder]

Does it have 2 grounds ticks or are you referring to the rock hit and the ground hit making for 2 ticks?

I don’t remember it’s been a hot minute since I played the character

[dark stump]

The new damage numbers

(54 on the rock, 82 on the decay)

[hot moss]

I never want to see that again

[dark stump]

Straight out of a horror game...

[flint girder]

Why?

Assault Shiggy is super underplayed so it’s not a bad news if he gets buffed

[hot moss]

Underplayed doesn't always mean they need to be buffed though

But also I was referring to seeing Rotana use him lol
Never. Again.

[flint girder]

Ah makes sense

[jagged flame]

I could care less for Assault Shiggy

[limpid patio]

yea, i do love hitting combos with him tho, esp against meta characters

but red is still on top

[final saffron]

How much health does assault shiggy have?

[hot moss]

300hp

[tired moth]

Let’s go🙏

But does it still have stupid cooldowns?

[jagged flame]

Yes what did you expect

Embrittlement doesn't have a cooldown

[dark stump]

The duration got gutted tho

[flint girder]

As it should’ve

Honestly as a damage buff to combos including melee it’s okay-ish

As a 25s debuff no thanks

Though my embrittlement + detection combo is gone, rip

[final saffron]

It felt like so so so SO much more

[quartz kestrel]

he is an assault with pretty high mobility

that gives him nice survivability

[hot moss]

Average mobility tbh

[hot moss]

I've still yet to actually see many Assaults so far today
Just 1 currently

[marble spruce]

i saw one this morning when i played for a little

he wasnt very good

ill have to play him a bit tonight.

[limpid patio]

i found alot

not packed but theres a good amount atm

[hot moss]

Makes sense on JP servers
They still love him there

[dark stump]

How have lobbies been for ya after the patch?

Could you find actual games unlike before?

[limpid patio]

im actually getting lobbys which is good, alot of ratting atm tho but hopefully thats just because of the update just coming out

[dark stump]

ohh W

[limpid patio]

i can finally try and practice stuff with characters now so yeah im glad its been fixed

was expecting it to get changed later like next season tbh

[hot moss]

I should play more JP then
I do occasionally just not often
I usually switch around EU and NA most pff

[limpid patio]

its pretty chill since crossplay came out

before that servers were insanely sweaty, gave me headaches alot

[jagged flame]

So yeah you should be getting full lobbies

[limpid patio]

yeah i saw that, so glad they did it

[proud hearth]

Today begins my Yellow Shigi Training Arc

[hot moss]

Who are you?

[proud hearth]

It is I Tomura

How could you not recognize your own sensei?

https://tenor.com/view/all-for-one-afo-bnha-gif-20361932

[hot moss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-gif-22341545

[jagged flame]

GET OUT

He's a fraud

[proud hearth]

So me wanting to try a character I haven’t played in a long time makes me a fraud

Sigh, fine

Guess I can’t do anything besides the select couple of characters people accept me for playing

There, not playing assault shigi anymore

Happy now

[hot moss]

We were only messing around-
You're allowed to play whoever you want, man.
There's other Assault Shiggy players here too.
I'm sorry

[terse pelican]

to any assault shiggy mains here, is beta cancel with roll a thing?

i just saw someone beta, roll before the shot even left their hand and beta again

im 99% its cheating but just to be sure

this doesnt help the case either

they got 9 ko on a full ace lobby

[quartz kestrel]

Yeah

[quartz kestrel]

Its a thing

U can cancel it into melee too

You can cancel it extremely early too

[marble spruce]

oh wow thats crazy cool

is there something you have to do to pull it off or is it as simple as just going for a melee?

[cerulean rain]

The beta rock just needs to connect with them and then you can melee but you can cancel it slightly earlier regardless if it whiffs anyways just not as fast, the closer you are the sooner you can obviously

You can also do it with gamma

[terse pelican]

But can you cancel the roll with beta too

He barely rolled and did it again

[proper hemlock]

I was sad I missed shiggy in season 4

[marble spruce]

super neat

[proper hemlock]

But now
It’s time to have the fun that I never could before

[marble spruce]

ill practice this

[quartz kestrel]

I do the beta roll cancel sometimes but i havent fully integrated it into my gameplay becuz i forget about it

I like how both vers of shiggy have crazy mechanics

[proper hemlock]

They do be jiggying

[patent forge]

Me too i just got him from dankis banner first try

[marble spruce]

crazy name

[patent forge]

Its the evil evil dih for one

[dark stump]

It's not cheating, it's one of his techs

Rolling or melee to cancel his Beta animation

[marble spruce]

omg

i finally have a pur for him

im the happiest girl in the world rn

[limpid patio]

Awakened goes hard for tuning

[tired moth]

was it the costume gacha or the other ones?

[tired moth]

yo assault shiggy is looking like new meta now

[hot moss]

I've yet to see more than 1 so far

[stiff lark]

he's in a better position that he was before but not meta

[jagged flame]

He won't be meta

[hot moss]

He can still die easily to a lot of stronger characters
Damage buff to alpha alone won't change that

[limpid patio]

exactly, for being an assault hes not super tanky

[hot moss]

Yeah, but he is getting a little more recognition at least
He kinda dropped off the face of the planet for a while

[quartz kestrel]

Im glad he is not meta, i need him where he is at rn

[jagged flame]

I'll be taking a break from shiggy

I got tech denki on my first multi

I gotta use him

[quartz kestrel]

Congrats

[jagged flame]

And I have all his outfits

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-heisenberg-vince-gilligan-gif-17016123874427286459

[marble spruce]

costume, ive been saving crystals for this

[tired moth]

how many did you use?

[tired moth]

I was trying to save as well, but this game barely gives you crystals

[proper hemlock]

He’s really nasty but his damage can be replicated if not overshadowed with ammo to spare.
And range/air game a considerable issue

[marble spruce]

took me 4 spins

[jagged flame]

I would never spend crystals for any outfit

Not even if I really want it

[tired moth]

I'm quite desperate

cause the chances of getting the right one in a normal gacha is very slim

[limpid patio]

yeah thats true, i never really like a whole lot of cosmetics or kits in this game so i just save crystals for the bp

use tickets for anything i really want

[tired moth]

plus its not just a cosmetic it lets you have different tuning builds

[marble spruce]

yeah this is really all i cared about

i like his outfit you get from the special license more

the one with the hands

for cosmetic purposes

also i was playing a bit of assault shiggy this morning, that alpha shreds now

[jagged flame]

My tv just died

[hot moss]

My condolences 🙏

[jagged flame]

Won't be able to play for awhile

May not be able to play for the rest of this season

[hot moss]

Oh dang

Don't worry we'll keep bullying lobbies for ya

[final saffron]

I fought 3 today

I still don’t know what he does

So I got folded like an omelette

[jagged flame]

He throw rocks

Rocks do thingies

Stun lock combos

Massive damage

That all you need to know about Assault Shiggy

[final saffron]

How do I fight him?

[proper hemlock]

Keep at range try to be off the ground

[final saffron]

“These high heels aren’t made for jumping”

“Or running”

[proper hemlock]

Also he likley uses all his ammo per combo, that’s his most vulnerable

[proper hemlock]

Those heels are gonna get decayed then

[final saffron]

280 dmg btw

[jagged flame]

Get out

The character that stays airborne while I use strike shiggy

[limpid patio]

not a fan of her gamma overpowering shiggys

would grab an ibara just for them to say 'no'

[jagged flame]

Well it does have more range

[final saffron]

That’s only if we have elevation beforehand

[final saffron]

You guys literally run with it

[jagged flame]

She can literally grab Mirio and he dies

Shiggy can't do that with a single grab

[limpid patio]

wait is ibaras grab bugged as well?

i forgot all about hers

[hot moss]

It is weird that hers does more damage than Shiggys lol

[jagged flame]

She has zero mobility so it's fine I guess

But what I don't like is that it doesn't consume ammo if she whiffs her gamma

[final saffron]

It’s like nejire vs shiggy

DO NOT CHALLENGE AN IBARA AS MIRIO

[hot moss]

Yeah infinite cooldown when whiffed

They can use that to slow descent too
So if they use alpha or beta in the air to avoid Shiggy attacks they can slowly gamma down

[hot moss]

I eat Nejires for breakfast

[final saffron]

Bugged? Our alpha is but not gamma

[limpid patio]

ppl dont fall from your gamma?

[jagged flame]

It has to do with ping

[final saffron]

Your gamma has mobility attached to it tbf

Ours leaves us wide open

[final saffron]

SHHHHHHH

SILENCE

[jagged flame]

NO

There's a reason I don't praise Ibara

Though I do respect her

Cus I don't lose against Ibara when using Shiggy

[final saffron]

~~i genuinely have no excuse for this being the case but please don’t take this away from us 🙏T-T 🙏 ~~

Every move except for shields have a cooldown like kendo’s and compress

[jagged flame]

Also she still has that alpha bug

That's stupid

[final saffron]

~~ excluding kiri which he has an attack attached to it~~

[final saffron]

Most definitely

I hate it too

It’s bs

I’ve been playing ibara a lot less because I keep accidentally doing it and idk why

[hot moss]

Me neither in real matches but istg the practices I do in Training against someone playing her is just painful to deal with on flat open ground :')

[jagged flame]

Yeah don't fight her in the open

[hot moss]

I usually don't lol

[final saffron]

“Pro” tip we are always aiming where you are going due to alpha delay

Move erratically

[hot moss]

I do

Like I said in real matches Ibaras ain't an issue

But it's like an unwritten rule to always do training 1v1s on that USJ bridge lol

Terrible spot for Shiggy

[final saffron]

Mfw I don’t have a cramped room to beta some poor soul in…

~~ speaking from experience~~

Yall just be pressing anytime man… T-T

[hot moss]

I like to fight in the open tbh
I'm not very campy most of the time.
But I like it when there's at least something to use for cover in the area or even just something to use to kick off my Wall Run jump.
That's why I don't mind fighting in UA Construction zone for example, even though it's mostly flat ground there too

[final saffron]

TF YOU MEAN YOU CAN CANCEL ANYTHING INTO GAMMA???

[final saffron]

I’m guessing you’re an alpha connoisseur

I’m more of a beta fan because “haha, domain expansion”

The alpha is just objectively stronger though

[hot moss]

I'm a connoisseur of
"Use the whole kit and never let em know your next move" lmao

[limpid patio]

Alpha good

Sometimes an alpha won't register tho idk why

[hot moss]

I've had that but I think it's just lag.

One time I hit a Twice with like 5 alphas, he took no damage.
A few seconds later, a load of numbers and buddy was just dead. Severe delayed reaction lmao

[limpid patio]

I get that very rarely, I think its only happened twice to me

[hot moss]

Happens to me whenever I get storms

[limpid patio]

But I remember my alphas just not giving out damage when I'd fight, I noticed it better when I downed a shoto and 2 of my alphas didn't stack when trying to finish

Ngl that's sort of the reason im playing yellow atm

[hot moss]

Hm not sure what it is
But I've noticed it happening more often to Downed people yeah.

[limpid patio]

A large number of characters are kinda broken this season so hopefully they get fixed next season

They changed alot but I don't think they really bothered to test any of it out

[hot moss]

Here's hoping

[hot moss]

Oh they don't
Any "tests" they run is in Training

[jagged flame]

I won't be able to play for probably weeks

Gotta get a new TV or monitor

[limpid patio]

Like me and my friend and still finding bugs with other characters, such as froppys alpha not actually working some of the time and some weird ochaco gamma glitch

[final saffron]

Just played a solo game and died to a twice with combos…

[jagged flame]

Remember this patch they nerfed is alpha

By 1 damage

[limpid patio]

That was something

[hot moss]

You make it sound like dying to a Twice with combos doesn't usually happen

[final saffron]

Oh wow it took 1 more juggle to kill me…

[limpid patio]

That 1 damage reduction will probably be a game changer

[jagged flame]

Surely the devs thought it was a significant nerf

-3 damage

[final saffron]

I know…

He’s the fun stopper…

[limpid patio]

I've heard it's possible to melee twice mid combo, is this true

[hot moss]

Don't worry, the devs know Twice needs his combos nerfed

Which is why next time they'll nerf his Special Action cooldown instead

[final saffron]

YAY ITS NOT LIKE IT CANT BE CIRCUMVENTED BY 1 TUNING!!!

[marble spruce]

im actually in so much pain rn

[final saffron]

Gam

[marble spruce]

9 kos 7k damage 1v1ing against a rapid ochaco and my gamma whiffed and she killed me 😔

[hot moss]

Depends.
I've managed to do so a couple times but also not managed to do so other times
It might depends on the exact combo he uses, how fast he spams that stuff, how fast you spam melee, idk

[marble spruce]

i had already grabbed her before too so i wouldve won 😔

[hot moss]

When it whiffed did it miss completely or did she get briefly stunned?

[marble spruce]

she took damage

no grab tho

[hot moss]

Ah, if you were quick you could follow up a whiff with an immediate melee chain

[final saffron]

Shiggy should get the strike Dabi grab treatment

[hot moss]

In what way?

[limpid patio]

Idk how I'd feel about that

I like being able to control where I'm going

[final saffron]

Run from it

hide from it.

It comes to hit you all the same...

Just give it heavy tracking and don’t allow it to whiff

“Tracking”

[hot moss]

Ohhh no...
Hard tracking on something that is primarily an escape tool would screw people over most often

[final saffron]

It should still be controllable, but you know hard to miss if you’re aiming to get someone

[limpid patio]

He doesn't need tracking at all

[proper hemlock]

Tracking is a terrible gimmick lol

I would not put it in

[limpid patio]

Just the grab itself needs fixing

[hot moss]

I like when gammas whiff
It allows me to follow up with something more
So even if the grab fails it's not a loss

[limpid patio]

Its 50/50 for me

[final saffron]

You got me there

[limpid patio]

Sometimes I stun ppl while they are mid air

[final saffron]

At least don’t let it whiff

[final saffron]

That’s debatable

[limpid patio]

Cant special because im too close

[proper hemlock]

I still remember when rapidoga came out some people said she should have gamma tracking lmaoooo

[limpid patio]

Special has a weird tracking bug I think

[proper hemlock]

That mechanic rots your brain fr fr

[hot moss]

Air melee into grounded melees
Better than Special in that situation

[final saffron]

You get tracking or you get a stun you don’t get both

Twice has taught us as well

[proper hemlock]

Speaking of stuns in the yellow shiggy return

I keep forgetting how much he can lock you

[hot moss]

Also I think so
It's been hard to tell what's a tracking issue or just my controller failing at function.

But sometimes I'll try to use it and I'll go backwards. Like randomly

[limpid patio]

When im too close to ppl the special just swipes in their face

You have to be at a certain distance I think

[hot moss]

Ohh I've not had that one I don't think

[limpid patio]

Like even holding forward or not, it still does it lol

[final saffron]

I used to want him because of his tuning…

Now, after the nerf, I kinda don’t know…

[proper hemlock]

Don’t worry about the tuning

[hot moss]

The boy is just full o' bugs :')

[proper hemlock]

It will be….. under new management

[final saffron]

Rq what do I do against cementoss

[hot moss]

Cry

[final saffron]

Kendo…

[final saffron]

I was cooking him, but he kept going up and healing

[hot moss]

Yeah he's annoying. He can build pillars faster than you can bring em down

[final saffron]

and the worst feeling in the world is when his platform is slightly off center so I can’t send an alpha up there

[hot moss]

LITERALLY

[final saffron]

Or he just caps it off with the big platform thingy

[hot moss]

I mean with Space Hop or Spiral Leap it's sometimes easier to get up there depending on how high he builds or if there's structures to use to your advantage
But ya kinda have to get up there to surprise him without accidentally destroying his pillars with your specials.

The second his precious pedestal breaks they just spam more

[marble spruce]

yeah the angle i was at was awkward so i couldnt react in time unfortunately 😔

[hot moss]

Happens a lot dw

[marble spruce]

shes so floaty, hard to fight

[hot moss]

What was she doing?
Like how was she fighting you? did she stay in the air all the time or use beta spins on the ground?

[marble spruce]

she was playing in the air a lot

my only hope was probably special action, but i was scared to since she had me guard broken already

that beta throw hurt

[hot moss]

Rapid Ochaco is very iffy
Good ones that stay in the air flinging the cars intermittently are the more troublesome ones

The kind that just holds the spin to try and hit you are easier to deal with, especially since you can gamma her out of it.

[marble spruce]

it gets cut off

[final saffron]

I low-key want to be a shiggy main

But this is pre-liberation arc shiggy where he had no sauce, no hoes, and the voice of nails on a chalkboard

[jagged flame]

???

Hey

You can't insult my main like that

[final saffron]

He’s unironically one of those guys to say “gamers don’t die, they respawn”

[jagged flame]

I only watch MHA in English sub

[final saffron]

Right after liberation arc shiggy was peak

[final saffron]

Yeah and he had gamer lingo in the sub too

[marble spruce]

fake shiggy fan

[final saffron]

And in the manga

[marble spruce]

if you dont like loser gamer shiggy then i dont like YOU

[final saffron]

Counterpoint:

League of legends

[marble spruce]

like i said

hes a loser

and i LOVE him for it

[jagged flame]

My Boi isn't a loser

[final saffron]

Okay this had me laughing for a minute

[marble spruce]

he is

and hes perfect for it

[hot moss]

I love rage gamer emo loser Shiggy
He's so me-coded 🥹

[marble spruce]

you get it

[jagged flame]

😭

[marble spruce]

i hope at some point we get this variant as a skin for him, with the hands and the coat

its my favorite look for him

[jagged flame]

Prefer the white hair

[limpid patio]

im a fake fan, i only started liking him after he decided to lock in

almost soloed endeavor

[final saffron]

Counterpoint

https://youtu.be/UHBJNgV9sds?si=Pn5sPkGVmmu6a0kf

[marble spruce]

my favorite thing in mhur is how shiggys hello emote is the moment he disrespected endeavor

lol

[final saffron]

I can’t believe I didn’t even notice that…

I was wondering why he was asking how hello is supposed to go… T-T

[limpid patio]

i have like 2 emotes im missing and they are his best ones

they are locked behind events too

completely skipped season 2 and 3

and i get punished for it

[final saffron]

Yall still have watchful eye!

[limpid patio]

true

[final saffron]

But yeah stressed out is peak

[limpid patio]

stressed and decay are both nice to look at/use imo

[final saffron]

I could go without decay personally

[hot moss]

I have all his emotes but the point
Gacha won't even give me an emote smh

[final saffron]

“Is that all you got?” Does its job well enough

[limpid patio]

its just simple i like it

[hot moss]

Watchful Eye and Stressed Out are both my favorites
And I use them in a kind of symbolic way

[jagged flame]

JP voice sounds much cooler imo

[dark stump]

Ibara Gamma is awesome but I can agree how dumb it is that it either cancels out or wins against Strike Shiggy Gamma everytime

[final saffron]

Does it have the voice change?

I might go listen to it if so

[jagged flame]

https://youtu.be/FVqZ43r42nk?si=d5Cikit83L6DD8Lw

It changed a bit

Not a dramatic change though

[final saffron]

The change is a lot less noticeable

More of a fan of the dub but both go hard

The laugh always gets me

[dark stump]

I'm more a fan of the laugh in the JP version

[final saffron]

Most definitely

[dark stump]

I mainly watch the JP anyway tho so it's probably just bias

[hot moss]

I like the dub cuz Shiggy sounds so silly and gremlin-esqueand I love him for it

Also I can actually do an impression of him well thanks to my vocal chords being messed up. Pretend that's a good thing

[final saffron]

The voice change just hit so much harder in dub if I watchEd sub first then dub id probably wanna rip my ears off but with hindsight, this is the best for me

[dark stump]

Wait I've never seen this before, that's actually so cool

How his voice changes in his moment of realization, I like that direction

[hot moss]

I got recommended that vid like 5 times

[marble spruce]

man i love this change for beta being refunded if you cancel it with gamma

the movement feels so good now

[final saffron]

I would love some kind of voice pack that lets me change shiggy to his post liberation voice

I’d pay money for it

Same with deku and s7

[dark stump]

TRUE

[marble spruce]

this would be awesome

i thought it would be great for his white hair skins to have different voicelines

[dark stump]

Something like the voice packs in OJ2

[final saffron]

s7 spoilers obviously

We need new voices

[jagged flame]

Engrish

[lyric prawn]

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/kwM6eq21kVdZRD01x?invite=cr-MSx0dXQsMzAyNTA4Mzk2

rock merchant

[quartz kestrel]

poor froppy

just a meal to be fought over…….

[hot moss]

Mmm Frog legs

[tired moth]

woah so many messages

yh i think it would be sick if shiggy's grab beats all the other grabs

but i think you draw the line at ibara

since the only thing thats going for her grab is damage

[hot moss]

What they could do for Ibara is maybe lower damage but increase the range so maybe it can shoot out further, and maybe speed up the animation. That on top of her already having no cooldown when whiffed I think would be fine for her damage to be lowered

[proper hemlock]

It needs to one shot Mirio is all imma say

If it doesn’t then the universe will implode

[hollow salmon]

did anyone test space jump tuning on red shiggy?

could this replace wallrunner in some way?

[limpid patio]

ppl use both

[hot moss]

I run both

IT'S WORTH IT

[hollow salmon]

ahh okay

its crazy. you got basically wallrunner + space jump + special action

for movement

[hot moss]

Yeah though Space Hop doesn't affect the Wall Runner jump tech height, so you can't go craaaazy high

[hollow salmon]

mhm

i could switch around

twice - space hop

i didnt test both wallrunner and space but it sounds overkill

[terse pelican]

How does space hop do on him? I dont have many asschako data so i dont wanna waste it

Also, fixer really stinks on shiggy from what i tested

Mainly because if you try and tune him for damage i dont think it can compete with this skin

Old screenshot im running willpower

[hot moss]

As mentioned before

Worth it

[hot moss]

It's not really overkill but it does make survivability so much stronger if you know how to make good use of the mobility potential

[terse pelican]

Which skin youre running, i have awakened, knight, disguise and cyberpunk so no restrictions

Though only maxed aura on awakened

And the one the has a yel slot has really bad basic slots

[hot moss]

Dangerous variant of the disguise coat

[terse pelican]

Gotta see, because i really like how ludicrous the damage is on the skin i posted above

Whats the other slot it has

The awakened i think is a red hero

[terse pelican]

Also i might swap willpower for trance blow, does shiggy knockdown after a while or is it just a slow

[hot moss]

Yeah that one's popular for the damage output

Dangerous disguise has a blue slot, I believe it's Hero only.
I'm not sure without checking.

The basic attack slots aren't bad tho. Can run triple alpha and triple gamma attack if you wish.
Well, double alpha and a half if you count the hp attack Tunings lol

[terse pelican]

Might drop the alpha damage only

[hot moss]

I don't see many people use Trance Blow on him tbh, I'm not too sure how effective it is

[terse pelican]

Its mainly hero strike tuning either suck or is bakugo which has a good base tuning

Like, i dont think i see any strike tunings that arent crushing pu or kota finder or willpower

[hot moss]

Yeah
Before layered outfits were a thing I ran Resist Shock for ages because nothing else appealed to me lmao
Ngl it saved me a good few times

[terse pelican]

Crushing pu is such a weird tuning to me

Because its strong asf

But i dont like using because the normal tuning also is strong asf

So it kinda stays on a limbo where i only use it if the char main damage source isnt the alpha

[hot moss]

Yeah ngl I don't find Crushing PU worth it for me personally, just because I can already wreck house if I go aggro on PU anyway, I don't really need to strengthen something that's already strong, you know?

[terse pelican]

Thats not crushing pu thats pu power intensified

Crushing pu is the 20% pu charge on ko

[hot moss]

Ohhh yeah
Sorry brain fried today from heatstroke lol

[jagged flame]

Ok so

I may be able to play

But not as much

[hot moss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[tired moth]

Does sapce hop still give the same height boost when you do neutral jump sa? So you can go even higher?

[hot moss]

Yes

[tired moth]

OOOOOOOOO

Also how did none of my sa hit him????

like come on game

[hot moss]

Bro managed to perfectly jump over your SA then go under it lol

Yeah the tracking there didn't have much momentum to actually connect to him it looked like. At least with the first one.

[terse pelican]

Its been a while since i played strike shiggy, the amount of bugs his gamma has he feels genuinely unplayable at close range

I used the grab to move, and grabbed the air and got triple beamed and died for it

[jagged flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1144085384310034532/1194458586370277426/MY_HERO_ULTRA_RUMBLE_20240108173538.mp4?ex=6856b8fe&is=6855677e&hm=94678218fbba372bb4e3d525c3ddf2abd18eee76a0bb3ae0bf96a51a1cc47fba&

[hot moss]

Those were the days lol

[terse pelican]

God this is old, s1 or s2

Not even the damage and assist stats on there

[jagged flame]

Season 2 I think

[terse pelican]

Also whats funny is i have a game where a deku tried the exact same thing last season

Guess what he exploded

Same area too

Honestly it feels so weird living in a world where strike shiggy is better than nejire

When she came out she kinda singlehandedly invalidated the character

[jagged flame]

Only 1 nerf ruined her

Her beta

[terse pelican]

She could hit her beta until knocking down like 6 times before it went on cooldown

And it kept her in the air for years

Now if you time it right she gets 8-9 hits total

[dark stump]

The game hates you ig

[terse pelican]

Also nejire now is genuinely strike shiggy food, when she runs out of cooldowns to stay in the air she is a sitting duck for 10 seconds

Monoma on the other hand...

So fun fighting him the guy who can steal your beta and cover the entire map with it while being able to stay in the air for minutes

[jagged flame]

Yeah

The thing with Nejire is that

Her beta and gamma cooldowns start when she touches the ground

And her SA also

I'm not sure about her alpha

Though her alpha does pretty good damage

[marble spruce]

this was before his alpha traveled up surfaces right?

i never experienced that since i started in the later seasons. thankfully.

[marble spruce]

alpha recharges in air. dont need to touch ground.

[hot moss]

Yeah but who's really getting hit by Nejire alphas? ☕

[terse pelican]

She might hit you with one tick before you roll, be careful with 30 dmg

Her alpha has the same problem strike shiggy alpha has of being multihit except she doesnt have a massive lingering hitbox

[hot moss]

Eh, I've never had issues with it.
They usually still pour their levels into beta and gamma anyway more than alpha

[proper hemlock]

The ones that snipe you from Saturn

[tropic cliff]

The most useful strat when u want to avoid a shigaraki

[hot moss]

We call those ones "Present Mic"

[marble spruce]

present mic on his way to get 5 downs across the map by pressing r1 twice

still cant believe he hasnt received any nerfs -.-

[proper hemlock]

Mic is their coughing baby boi 👶 🗣️

[terse pelican]

Talking about flying characters hawks is nowhere lol

I think ive seen 4 this entire season

[tropic cliff]

It's all because hardly no one has him. That's really the only reason. Once he's available in character tickets he's gonna get nerf just how they did Afo when he was officially a character token character

[terse pelican]

That once he is available is a big if

But yeah i got him and he is so stupid

With boombox he does 140 dmg alphas

Why tf is that a thing

[tropic cliff]

And with Monona on his team makes it worse to deal with

[marble spruce]

i love seeing a hawks in my lobby because everyone who plays him these days is awful

free kill

[marble spruce]

if he ever is available in character tickets

still waiting on overhaul so i can use his tuning more 😔

[tropic cliff]

Yall right with the if. So if it happens he's probably getting the afo treatment when he was in the characters tickets

[terse pelican]

Me having reinforced revive on froppy only and struggling to make gamma centered builds

But now shiggy sa is way better because embrittlement is dead 🎉

[tropic cliff]

Fingers cross he's next season since he's after mirio which apparently people say he's can be use in character tickets

[terse pelican]

Yeah mirio is on the tickets

Not that it matters for tuning unless you wanna do the box strat

[tropic cliff]

That's the only good use for early game looting

[terse pelican]

Just a question, shiggy sa debuff is 20% right?

Or was it the same as embrittlement which was 25%

Because his alpha increases 20%, but i dont know if its because it doesnt hit a breakpoint to go up

[marble spruce]

im unaware

because for the longest time i thought embrittlement was 20% lmao

learned after the nerf it was 25%

[terse pelican]

Thats exactly why i was asking

I thought both were 20%

[final saffron]

Which do you all prefer?

https://youtube.com/shorts/37COrp2AZ5o?si=7UGrKC2d1SKC0Kn2

[tired moth]

i swr his sa is so inconsistent

[tired moth]

Definitely his japanese

his english one sounds like he's on something 😭

whereas the japanese one actually sounds like a guy whos mentally broken

[flint girder]

Honestly it’s super rare that I end up liking an english dub

I think the only time where the english dub might have been an upgrade to the Japanese one was Persona 3 (I played it on the PSP so idk about the remake on PC) the english dub was soooo good

[limpid patio]

thats what im saying, his special feels bugged now

i use to hit ppl alot with it, now i get surprised it doesnt anymore

[hot moss]

I don't feel any issue with it connecting to people offensively
I find my issue is when I use it to move around or destroy civ booths it sometimes goes backwards annoyingly.

[flint girder]

Civ booth I just use melee

[tired moth]

yh that too 😭, there's no tracking when you try destroy the civ booths with sa

[tired moth]

his whole kit is bugged 😔

i thought they would of resolved the gamma bug this patch

but they didnt

and the bug occurs so randomly

[jagged flame]

His gamma has been bugged since season 1

[hot moss]

Yeah they're never fixing the gamma as a whole.
They might fix the gamma cutting short eventually though since that's been getting the most notice this season.
But even the grabbing without actually grabbing issue has been around forever

[jagged flame]

Exactly

It works in fine in training mode against bots

But against other players is the main issue

The idea I have is that, they should have like a magnet coded into his gamma upon hit detection on frame 1.

Rn it doesn't matter how good your internet connection is, sometimes it wouldn't work as intended

[hot moss]

Yeah

[limpid patio]

its worse this season, it just tracks but doesnt even stun most of the time

this is what i mean

happened around 6 or 7 times that game

[hot moss]

I've not quite had that one yet
Where it'll track but not stun

[limpid patio]

the amount of tech denkis with space hop on this map is actually crazy

[jagged flame]

USJ is the best map for tech denki

It's mostly open space and not much buildings

I've been using him

[hot moss]

I blame Stray for that lol

[jagged flame]

Why?