Tomura Shigaraki

[tired moth]

i wish all of you luck

pls wish me too cause im gonna try with just one roll because it's so hard to get crystals in this game and no one ever saves them anyway 😔

[hot moss]

I didn't forget
But that's a leak lol

[jagged flame]

I love this build

Divine Protection helps alot

Shake OUR hands Toga

[obsidian ember]

How should I upgrade assault shiggy?

[tired moth]

Oh 😭

[regal crystal]

yeah how does he upgrade his quirks like whats the set up for it??

[hot moss]

https://youtu.be/d2cJIWIPn-w?si=31ORbeXt7fUwpvPI

This is my first attempt ever making a gameplay video, so if anyone is interested in checking it out, um... ☕

Just please ignore my many fumbles, I am well aware I was doing a lot of questionable and delayed stuff, my brain has just been so out of it today, but the match went well regardless.

-# I assume I'm allowed to send it here since videos have been sent here from others before

[marble spruce]

yoooo, ill watch this on my way home

[hot moss]

Thank you so much! Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[stiff lark]

what i suggest is gamma 4, beta 4, gamma 9,beta 9, alpha 9, or go all 4 in the order of gamma beta alpha then max in that order, whats most important is you max gamma no matter what

[jagged flame]

Well that was fun

[marble spruce]

video was great btw

your movement is super satisfying

convinced me to try that tuning setup whenever i get a pur for him

space hop seems nutty

[jagged flame]

Nice vid

Also I want the build

[hot moss]

Thank you both!
I was definitely sloppy with the movement ngl but Space Hop is fun and makes escaping much easier for him. Especially right now with his gamma bugging out a fair bit lol

[tired moth]

You got the exact build i want, and it makes your movement look so good and fun. Although my only complain with space hop is that you're forced to stand still which kind of breaks the flow of the movement unlike Spiral Leap, which you also get forward momentum allowing further beta jumps. But i gotta try space hop out myself to see

From what ive seen both space hop and spiral leap give some nutty , fun movment

[hot moss]

True, you can make Space Hop take you a little more forward though by jumping as soon as you let go of directional input, you do keep some momentum with that but the timing is very tight.

Sometimes though I've found that my jumps do also occasionally shoot me forward more dramatically and I have 0 idea what actually causes that. It's rare and has only ever happened to me on Laggy City. Idk if other people have experienced it.

[tired moth]

Also i do have a few nitpicks

Imo you don't need wall runner cause you can definitley get to most places with just spiral hop and sa

instead i'd switch out wall runner for revenge rapid

[hot moss]

Tbh I have considered Revenge Rapid because it makes everything faster which would be handy.

I mainly go for Wall Run because when I'm being chased and I have to keep moving it helps me juke people much more easily, especially with the Wall tech that I'm still tryna get the hang of. More distance coverage without needing to waste Special.
It's also a little more subtle since people can hear the sound of Shiggy using his Specials to go upward.

[tired moth]

Valid points

i guess it does depend on playstyle

cause i notice mines very different compared to urs

[hot moss]

What's your playstyle like?

[tired moth]

well i right now run spiral leap and revenge tech

cause thats the only build i have

but with my playstyle

meh its hard to describe

but when youd say the enemies would hear if ur sa

i wouldnt really care because i'm going to attack them either way

and by the time they hear my sa

i'm already attacking them

i guess what i'm tryna say is that i'm very quick to attack and press buttons 🤣

and also most people who hear the sa just let it go over their heads and just ignore it

[hot moss]

Fair enough, basically an aggressive playstyle which is fine lmao

Mine is more of a cautious aggression.
I'll get in and throw hands but always be wary of positioning and not be reckless with how/when I pick a fight.
I also like it when I can get someone by surprise so sneak attacks on individuals are my kinda thing hehe

[limpid patio]

matchmaking for anyone else been really bad this season? 🗿

[hot moss]

First off: How long have you been in this server??

Secondly: agonisingly so, yes

[limpid patio]

i only joined today. I havent been able to get matches this season but didnt know if it was just jp lobbys or if everyone was having issues

last season was really good then it all fell apart it seems like

[hot moss]

There's a lot of bot lobbies in all servers yeah. Especially at higher ranks

[tired moth]

NAH IM THE EXACT SAME

[hot moss]

Plus tbh... Monoma...
Unsurprisingly a lot of people have turned away from the game with the state it's in now.

[tired moth]

I like perch on top of buildings and then drop down and gamma my prey

And i wear the black hooded costume as well so my enemies have a hard time seeing me

and i just vanish into thin air with my sa

actually so fun

[tired moth]

I played a custom game last night, and my monoma teamate and me just kept spamming beta in the final circle

[limpid patio]

i havent gotten a proper chance to fight monoma because of bot lobbys but ive heard hes really op

[tired moth]

poor guys couldnt get in our building 😭

[hot moss]

Lmao niicee

[tired moth]

Has anyone tried beta cancelling, i'm quite new to it but it comes pretty handy especially with spiral leap

[hot moss]

Let's just say
Bro has 0 cooldowns, 0 counters, 0 weaknesses, has more airtime than Prime Hawks ever had, and for some reason has i-frames alongside his gamma so he basically has built-in Willpower.

[limpid patio]

thats insane

glad im not getting lobbys then

[tired moth]

And also deadly team combos, we're talking double strike dabi hug (true combo), double afo gamma exploit trap

infinite shiggy betas

[hot moss]

How does Spiral Leap help that?
You can't cancel beta in its entirety, only when you're a frame off the ground you can cancel it from coming out.

[tired moth]

Cause you get more distance and height in your forward jumps, so you get more distance in your air betas

I'm saying it's more worth cancelling when you have spiral leap compared to normal

Cause the whole point of the tech is that you get more distance

so like you can do beta, gamma, beta gamma and maybe another beta

or sa then beta at the end

[hot moss]

Ohhh the distance yeah, I thought you meant just the cancelling lol

Yeah Spiral Leap is good for that

[tired moth]

yh

Cancelling is actually pretty easy when you get the timing down

though i'm not sure about controller

[hot moss]

Yeah it's easy on controller too

[tired moth]

ah okay

I just don't know when to use it

cause i don't want to miss out on damage if i cancelled my beta

i guess if you're trying to reach a far away building with no intention of damaging people

[hot moss]

It's good for escaping tough fights without giving away your position, same with closing distances to try and sneak up on someone.

[tired moth]

Yeahhh

i noticed shiggy is such a dead give away

[hot moss]

Bro is not subtle lmao

[tired moth]

all his moves reveal your location 😭

[hot moss]

They can also help conceal him though.
Especially with darker outfits like the hoodie, using your own attacks to disorient enemies and aid in stealth.

[jagged flame]

https://tenor.com/view/croc-gif-19153049

[hot moss]

Omg same

[limpid patio]

i noticed that playing customs with a friend, his darker outfits help him blend in more with his attacks and make it hard for ppl to spot

whenever i use his brighter outfits i just get melted

[tired moth]

Yeahhh that is true

I'd say these were good examples on when to cancel

also u see how my health just got melted 😦

if this was pre health buff i would have been on 1 hp 😦

[hot moss]

Yeah just cancel whenever you want to flee and not be easily tracked.
Unless the pursuer is also very low on health and you have maxed beta in a cluttered area, you could still throw it out to potentially catch them lacking and get a nice Down lmao

[tired moth]

yh true

[hot moss]

Fr
I used to just wear his default outfit for a long time because it helped my stealth play significantly, but now I can't give up the disguise coat even though I'm not as hidden anymore 😔

[tired moth]

Can't even put on any auras as well 😦

But actually i think the purple aura might help conceal you

[hot moss]

I keep my aura only visible to me and teammates, it doesn't do any good when you're tryna bush heal and people see the bush is mysteriously radiating aura.

[jagged flame]

I just like my pink evil knight outfit

[tired moth]

wait what

how do u make only ur teamates see ur aura?

[tired moth]

Your gonna be glowing 😭

[jagged flame]

I want the enemy to see me

[hot moss]

Settings
At the bottom there's "Display Aura"
Either have it visible to everyone, visible to you and teammates, or visible to just you

[tired moth]

Oh thats sick

i didn't know that

[hot moss]

We love glowing pink Shiggys around here, dw

[jagged flame]

https://tenor.com/view/muehehehe-gif-4405977563994366182

[hot moss]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[dark stump]

holy, it's Redacted's favorite person

[hot moss]

Redacted is out of a job now
No need to send their vids pff

[jagged flame]

https://tenor.com/view/goatishere-gif-26768694

Just call me Zeph

[hot moss]

Ooh Zeph!

[jagged flame]

@hot moss is there an outfit than can use Space Hop and Divine Protection?

I find Divine Protection to be really useful

[hot moss]

Hm you know I'm not sure without checking. I'm sure there probably is an outfit or two

[tired moth]

These are the only 2

That left column is nearly all yellow 🤣

[hot moss]

Looks like the Hero Style disguise would be the best option

[jagged flame]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-cat-gif-696604303596555012

[tired moth]

Am i the only one

who didnt know

that if you cheered your teamates

it would charge their plus ultra / chaos faster?

[hot moss]

I've been telling people that since the dawn of time lol

It literally says it in the loading hints 🥹

[tired moth]

😭😭😭

what loading hints???

dont tell me i'm this ignorant 🤣

[hot moss]

The tips that show up at the bottom of every loading screen lmao

Unless you have that switched off for some reason

[tired moth]

Nah

i just never read them

i mean who actually reads that 🤣

and thats for every video game

[hot moss]

I do 😔

Me just likes to read

[tired moth]

i might be a little late but what are strike shiggys combos? 🤣

ibr i just be doing my own thing with shiggy

and i didnt think he actually has combos because of the way his moves work

[hot moss]

Gamma into SA is the most common one for him

But you can also take advantage of gamma whiffing to go into combos too.

For example beta, gamma whiff, melee, melee, melee, gamma. They'd still take beta damage so you can deal a lot of damage if not outright ToD.
But it's not a true combo.

Most of his combos just involve melee chains tbh.
Melee, melee, melee, melee, SA

Melee, melee, melee, alpha, gamma

Just lots of meleeing lmao

[marble spruce]

alpha alpha alpha alpha alpha alpha

personal favorite

[hot moss]

Hmmm Idk that one seems almost impossible to pull off

[jagged flame]

Really? I don't give ppl likes unless they're good

[hot moss]

Me neither pff

[dark stump]

I give people likes if I like them 😺

[limpid patio]

had no idea you could do that

i was told that was fake newsss 😭

[hot moss]

I assume people think it's fake because it doesn't rapidly increase the gauge at sonic speed lmao, but it still does help increase it and if you and another teammate who's Downed both spam likes it's a lot more noticeable to see the gauge climb even more.

If I see my good teammate is already at 90+% and they need help locking in I'll be on spam like duty to ensure they get a potentially clutch PU/PC 🫡

[stiff lark]

Just incase anyone is wondering revenge assault is below average on assault shiggy I don,t know how good it is on strike shiggy

[limpid patio]

i always found revenge assault to be kinda bad imo

[jagged flame]

Thats because it is lol

20% defense increase when guard broken for 20-18 seconds

[stiff lark]

i remeber when i used to use that instead of sisterly because i didn,t want to be meta, but then space hop arrived which was a solid replacement

[vernal meadow]

hello shaggers

dropping some humble clips to go

character is really fun when he works

[limpid patio]

i wish i could consistently hit combos like that, i try to but my ping too high. Looks neat tho

[hot moss]

Hello what?

[tired moth]

yh but most of these combos are compleltly random and by chance. Like you can't purposely do gamma whiff or always hit sa after gamma

i also didnt know you could do melee into gamma

or melee into alpha

or are those just strings?

[hot moss]

You can technically gamma whiff on purpose, but it's always been a pain for me to pull off so I just wait for it to occur naturally lol
But yeah there's not much for him that's classed as a true combo.

Repeated melees is a chain but you can add onto it with something else before knockdown to make it more of a combo.
He's just kind of a "do whatever works" character

[tired moth]

Oh how do you gamma whiff on purpose?

[limpid patio]

melee combos for shiggy are really nice to hit tho, out of every character ive played, shiggy to me is the most satisfying and kinda just feels more rewarding

[tired moth]

Yeah very true

every move is so satisfying

especially when you hit someone in the air with sa

[hot moss]

Literally.
Since season 1 no character has come remotely close to being a perfect fit to me like the goat Strike Shiggy. Not even Tech Dabi.
Shiggy just has everything I want in a character and then some.

Also to gamma whiff intentionally you have to hit the person from the side and not hold down the gamma, but it's more awkward than it sounds when enemies are moving around constantly lmao
It's also ping dependant.

[limpid patio]

ive been trying to gamma mid air which is fun but this season kinda messed up his gamma for me

does feel good to pull off tho

[hot moss]

Gamma mid air? What does that do?

[tired moth]

Yhhh that is the best satisfaction

[limpid patio]

what i mean is like using gamma off a height

catching ppl in the air

[tired moth]

Whenever i try doing it though, the animation stops

[hot moss]

OH
Yeah that's fun hehe
Caught a Nejire lacking like that before

[tired moth]

Ive only ever done it when i fall with the enemy

Quite hard to do cause you get such a small area of effect

[hot moss]

Yeah
Sometimes when you grab someone off a ledge you remain stationary in the air during the animation, but when you throw them you can quickly flip back onto the ledge without descending, yourself.

That's ideal if you're just trying to secure a spot moreso than be particularly aggro on someone.
Or if there's like 9000 people below you'd rather not tango with pff

I see a lot of people kinda let themselves fall and they caught in chaos really bad

[tired moth]

i panic and try sa back up 😭

but it barely works since its mid air

[limpid patio]

i usually just let myself get caught lol

even if its a stupid idea

[hot moss]

Nah there's no stupid ideas with Shiggy, just fun ones ☕
-# We all share braincells

[vernal meadow]

this

you get to a certain point where you just wing things as they happen

SA not consistently following up is annoying though so i think against mashers i'm just gonna take the throw damage and be ready for their wakeup w/ air melee/SA

[tired moth]

yh i love how shiggy's playstyle is just adapting and going with the flow

[tired moth]

if only that sa connected, i'm sure he would have died from that

[limpid patio]

thats why ppl should air special instead lol

[jagged flame]

I'm offended

[tired moth]

true but most of the people i fight don't recover after grab

[jagged flame]

Most of the ppl I go against just keep mashing

[hot moss]

Most people I go against don't tend to recover, but even then I like to mix it up so sometimes I'll hit the combo, other times I'll wait and catch their attempt to flee with the air Special even if they didn't quick recover.

[tired moth]

Can someone help explain to me how the different knockdowns and auto recoveries work. And I frames. And how they all change with different moves and whether if you have gp or not.

[vernal meadow]

credits to mhurdb.net

[hot moss]

Thank God

[obsidian ember]

Are there any tips or combos someone could give me?

[umbral stream]

I wanna start using strike shigiraki any tips lvl up order and combos?

[tired moth]

thank you so much

[hot moss]

So people don't just wanna type anymore? 😔

[tired moth]

guys has anyone else had terrible experiences trying to use alpha on hills and other sloped surfaces

especially the hill on UA on the left side

like i would shoot it straight up the hill but it decides to go right for some reason

and sometimes it would just cancel and only cover 1 square

[vernal meadow]

not doing allat for a broad question

[tired moth]

so is that why shinso cant do 3 alphas in one go? Because the first 2 alphas makes the opponent exceed their down power forcing them to go hard knockdown?

[vernal meadow]

@umbral stream don't mash beta the second you get hit in the air
don't mash on your wakeup

A9 > B9 > G9 if you want to play aggressive
A4 > B9 > A9 > G9 if you'd rather stay indoors

A4 > B4 > A9 > B9 for a balance of both

shiggy isn't typically a combo character unless he gets really close to you after a gamma or something but he can always cancel his melee into special action which lowers the enemy's defense

M1 > M2 > M1 > M2 > SA does the most damage from a grounded melee but M2 has a really long recovery which makes it really easy to get M3 by accident

[vernal meadow]

the alpha and the slam are two different attacks

[tired moth]

and also is All Mights beta considered a soft knockdown move?

[tired moth]

oh

[vernal meadow]

hypothetically if he grabs you from really high up and pulls you down, you can regrab them multiple times before they actually hit the ground

[tired moth]

cause he can combo his beta with alpha right?

[vernal meadow]

on HP yes

[tired moth]

Oh yeahh

another thing

the guide didnt talk about is hp and gp

whats up with taht

[vernal meadow]

on GP it forces you to recover but you can still combo into alpha guaranteed

[vernal meadow]

what is there to wonder about it

[tired moth]

if it forces them to recover how is the combo still guaranteed? Dont they get i frames

[vernal meadow]

the same way kendo can do it

kendo and all might just recover fast enough from their attack

[tired moth]

Why do some moves knock you down on hp but not gp?

[vernal meadow]

to get another one out before the opponent gets i frames

[vernal meadow]

because when you take damage on GP the characters will perform a guard animation

rather than stagger or fall over

[tired moth]

so they won't get knockdown ever if they have guard?

[vernal meadow]

they can by moves with enough force

or down power

[umbral stream]

This for strike?

[vernal meadow]

yeah

[tired moth]

seems very complex

[vernal meadow]

did you just install this game or something

[tired moth]

so on gp the opponent will always do guard animation unless if they get hit by a move with enough downpower

[tired moth]

No ive been playing the game for a long time 🤣

But i never actually understood how knockdowns worked

and never really questioned it

and just ignored it

[vernal meadow]

basically

[umbral stream]

So he has no combos I see does he have any techs

[vernal meadow]

he can landing cancel his beta and skip the startup animation entirely if you time your beta correctly

[hot moss]

He has combos.

[vernal meadow]

he can also cancel his alpha or beta with gamma at any point

[hot moss]

They also made it so beta charge is no longer consumed after cancellation

[umbral stream]

How to cancel

[tired moth]

when did they do this?

[dark stump]

This season

Shadowbuff

[tired moth]

Oh thats sick

[dark stump]

yeah it's awesome

[tired moth]

cause i just learnt how to cancel beta this season

[hot moss]

Press gamma after pressing alpha.
With beta you can't gamma cancel until you are actually on the ground

[tired moth]

but i thought it was always in the game

[hot moss]

I do this a lot now
The timing is pretty easy once ya get used to it

[tired moth]

i dont get it

what am i meant to see here? 🤣

it just looks like hes doing his beta

[hot moss]

Press beta a frame off the ground when you jump. It stops the lunge and makes you be able to throw it out sooner

[dark stump]

it skips the starting lag

you know how he throws his hand up and them places them to the ground to do the decay

it skips that

just straight to decay

[tired moth]

oh the little hand animation

ah okay

[dark stump]

yeah, it's really useful

[tired moth]

would you do this with a neutral standing jump or a forward jump?

[vernal meadow]

doesn't matter what jump you do

you just need to be airborne

[tired moth]

also when would you do this because i almost never do a beta on the ground i would always jump and do it

[tired moth]

ah okay

[vernal meadow]

i don't have it in me to record more examples you'll just have to practice and experiment

[tired moth]

oh thats fine

But i just wanna know when you would do this opposed to doing a lunge beta

[vernal meadow]

after getting launched in the air as a means of getting somebody off of you

[dark stump]

I have a good example

[vernal meadow]

without committing to the start of the animation where you would lose your iframes

[tired moth]

Oh okay

[hot moss]

Yeah that
That's when I do it

[tired moth]

Oh i seeeee

i mean in that situation i would have just ran away and used my lunge beta to help me run away

[dark stump]

If I did the normal grounded way, Momo would've hit me
If I did the jump, I could get it off but it's more risky than what I just did

[hot moss]

It's more sudden that way so people don't expect it

[tired moth]

That is if i was playing defensively

[tired moth]

but this is if i wanted to actually fight me opponent i guess

[umbral stream]

Ok

[hot moss]

That's with jumping after alpha or beta btw

[tired moth]

mhmm i stil dont know, cause if i had no guard i would always run away cause if i stayed around i'm more likely to die

[umbral stream]

Ok

[tired moth]

like imagine if that was a kiri or dabi or someone

idk i just like fighting when i have full health

[tired moth]

but thats actually very useful if you did that and then follow up with a melee chain or gamma

i'll try it out and experiment

can you still cancel the second beta animation with gamma?

nvm i guess u can

[hot moss]

Yes but the melee chain is iffy because you still have the end lag of the animation, but yeah you can gamma.

[tired moth]

Ahh okay just answered both my questions lol

[hot moss]

I find if I get knocked down and the person is waiting a hair's length in front of me, I'll have my recovery jump go behind them, do the beta cancel and gamma and get them that way.

Of course that's if it's just 1 person and they're standing that close.
Usually someone like a Red Kiri tryna catch my wakeup with beta

[tired moth]

yh thats the risky thing with doing beta after recovery, people would be trying to catch your wakeup

thats why i just do the lunge beta and escape

[hot moss]

Some characters with AOE it's best to not fast recover against at all.
Those that have to predict your recovery direction more can fumble if you don't make your movement obvious.
That's why I try to go directly behind them, not left or right.
Nobody expects that and it makes people such as Kiri miss shoot his beta and leave him open for an instant grab.
Same with Red Deku using gamma.

Lunge beta is good in many situations, but many people can and will grab/knock you out of it if they can aim because it's more predictable when using that to escape.
Best to know when not to lunge sometimes.

And by grabbing you out of it, I mean like Aizawas and Shinsos. Those guys barely ever miss istg

[tired moth]

i just tried doing the tech and actually is very hard to get the timing down

very high risk move

[hot moss]

The timing takes some getting used to but it's not hard.
Once you know the sweet spot of triggering the cancel you start to find you can do it more consistently.

[limpid patio]

I had no idea they changed beta cancel this season, that's actually really good

I would sometimes mess up and use a charge without it actually working

[hot moss]

Hopefully it is a shadowbuff and not just a bug.
Can't trust the devs with anything anymore

-# Bring back the beta repel

[limpid patio]

Thats true, I hate when they shadow buff/nerf in this game because you never know if it's intentional or not

[hot moss]

Genuinely, I don't understand why they don't just add every change to the patchnotes.
They aren't being slick thinking people won't notice if they shadowbuff Aizawa for the eleven-teenth time

[limpid patio]

There's no reason to hide changes, especially when most times the changes they make in this game are already like "uhh ok then"

There was like a short time they did have good changes tho, but usually when they drop I see alot of ppl complain anyway

[hot moss]

Which changes would you say were some good ones that people still complained about?

[limpid patio]

Oh no I meant when balance changes in general drop, I don't think I've seen anyone complaining about good balance changes

Like the skill set nerf was pretty good, don't think I've seen anybody complaining about that since that was definitely needed

[jagged flame]

Like when they shadow nerfed the tracking for Tech Toga's gamma

Shadow buffed Aizawa's gamma

Those stuff

[hollow salmon]

i cant hold my gamma as red shiggy

new bug?

sometimes if i level up it works for a moment

[jagged flame]

Yes it's a new bug

[hollow salmon]

thats annoying af

big nerf

like wtf we lost our whole movement

[jagged flame]

I only came across it once

[limpid patio]

I lost a 1v1 because of it, both gammas stopped during contact so I just stopped playing until next update

There are also times I do grab ppl but they drop out of it, similar to the dabi bug

[hollow salmon]

so annoying

it happens frequently so far for me

[hollow salmon]

i had this just now

i grabbed enemy two times

and he vanished

[limpid patio]

Yeah your not the only one lol, so frustrating

Something feels off with his gamma, idk if its because of the bug but it feels janky grabbing ppl but have no idea how to explain it

I used to feel like I had some control when grabbing ppl but now it feels like it just auto does what it does but it's really laggy. Idk

[hollow salmon]

yea it feels really horrible

i just started to play him again

did a funny tuning

i still enjoy him but i know this will mess up some games

[hot moss]

Yeah the bug is one of many reasons I cba to picked up the controller this season rn.
It's messed me over before and nearly messed me over a few other times.

It's not a new bug though, he had same one long ago but it was fixed pretty quick back then.

Other than that I haven't felt any jankiness from the grab from what I can recall.

[hot moss]

Also true except for the people playing the skillsets 🤭

[obsidian ember]

Thank you🙏🏿

[gaunt tinsel]

Hey, how should I tune Catastrophe Shigaraki's League of Villains Suit (Combat) style? Any tips?

[jagged flame]

@hot moss

Space Hop is amazing

[hot moss]

Ya got that right

[jagged flame]

Planning to make one for Dabi

[marble spruce]

im trying to utilize space hop but its weird having to rethink my movement so much

i wish it worked with forward jump 💔

[hot moss]

I mean it caaaann
But to do that you'd always have to jump at the split-second you stop moving which isn't easy to do consistently.

[jagged flame]

If it did
What'd be the point of Nejire's tuning

[marble spruce]

ill get used to it with more practice. then i can hit the crazy movement you do lol

[hot moss]

Aura lmao

[marble spruce]

ngl i forget spiraling leap even exists half the time

[dark stump]

Welcome to Spiral Leap

[hot moss]

Spiral Leap makes you floaty all the time which can be more problematic than it seems.

At least with Space Hop you have more control of your jumps

[marble spruce]

ill have to try out spiraling leap then to see which i like more

i still wanna get used to space hop regardless tho, planning to use it on some future builds for ibara

[hot moss]

I'm not sure if Space Hop or Spiral Leal would be ideal on Ibara tbh.

Just because she has no way to descend quickly and the floatiness makes her that much easier to hit

[marble spruce]

for the build im gonna do its really the only movement option i will have

limited to her future pur unfortunately 💔

if i even get that

i really wish a lot of the mobility tunings weren't so unoptimal on non PUR skins.

[hot moss]

😔

[stiff lark]

Go space hop and either gp sucker card dup or wall runner

[gaunt tinsel]

Thanks! I'll be sure to try that out :)

[stiff lark]

no problem

[tired moth]

does anyone know how to get air melee into melee chain?

it only works some of the time

cause most of the time if i hit them with air melee they just get knocked down

before i can do the full combo

this is when they're on hp btw

if they have guard its much easier to do

[hollow salmon]

i did this budget build

going for gamma dmg

could also switch to alpha dmg so i do overall 20 dmg more

[hot moss]

Alpha damage is more ideal since it's the alphas that will be hitting people most of the time.
Besides, with how bugged his grabs are this season you may not get much mileage out of gamma damage.

[hollow salmon]

yea true

gamma is like a gamble rn

[dark stump]

You're doing it too early
Do it right before touching the ground and it'll work consistently

[hollow salmon]

you got a clip of that?=

[dark stump]

I don't have one ready but I could make one

[hot moss]

Do you even need a clip of it?

It's not hard, you just have to time it so you don't smack em mid-jump

[hollow salmon]

would like to see

[humble peak]

What are good Builds for the Cat?

[hot moss]

-_-

[dark stump]

When they are on the ground, you need to make sure your air melee animation ends as soon as possible.
To achieve that, you need to do the air melee as late as possible like I did in the 1st clip.

This isn't always practical tho, many times waiting to get to the ground to do the melee would be too late and the opponent is already out of range, which is why there are 2 other ways

• As shown in the 2nd clip, if you do it while falling from a high place, you should be able to get the melee chain no matter what, cuz the gravity makes you touch the ground fast enough to get the chain to connect.
• You could also get it if the opponent is slightly above the ground you're standing on, but the height it kinda specific so whenever it happens to me, it wasn't intentional. Because if they are too high I just Air Special Action them.

@hollow salmon Here's the clips since you wanted to see too

[hollow salmon]

thank you

[hot moss]

Smh

[tired moth]

Ah i see thankyou, btw i'm pretty sure you can do sa instead of m3 for more damage

[dark stump]

Yep! You should be doing that

I just didn't feel like doing it in that demonstration

[tired moth]

Yeah

well thats another thing thats added to my shiggy guidebook

[hot moss]

Uh huh

[stiff lark]

do u have any PUR costumes?

[humble peak]

The First Suit, Black Cyberpunk and the Knight Costume, i think that are all of them

[hollow salmon]

trying red shiggy again

i hope and cope for a clean gameplay

the gamma grab doesnt work for me as well

i hit the enemy 100% but he disappears

so weird

[hot moss]

Okay, disappearing is a new one.

[dark stump]

oh yeah I should bring this to everyone's attention properly

Strike Shiggy's Gamma has a new bug (starting this season) where if he tries to grab someone who has invincibility, he won't grab them but the whole grab and throw animation will play out

This is especially obvious when fighting Mirio, cuz I'm pretty sure this bug happens when he's in permeation
Heck, I died to a Mirio because of it. I tried grabbing him but he pressed Beta around the same frame the grab would connect, so he got a free Beta --> Gamma combo on me and I died 😔

[hot moss]

Sure, just add it to the list of gamma bugs atp

[jagged flame]

Yep it's annoying

Happened to me and the person kept running away

Not against Mirio though

[hot moss]

I don't think I've had it happen yet

[stiff lark]

I'd suggest yo do evil knight heat with space hop and pu crusher

[hollow salmon]

We deserve not only a hotfix but also a buff !

[hot moss]

He doesn't need any more buffs

Like genuinely.

[marble spruce]

agreed

he fills his role of being a good area denier

that double special action buff has made him much more mobile as well

he is in a perfect spot

[hollow salmon]

I wanna fly with gamma 😂

[hot moss]

Nah, leave that for Assault Shiggy lmao

But yeah he's in a perfect spot, any more buffs and I'd honestly be upset.
I already don't like that he's meta now, but too much more love and he'll lose the charm of challenge entirely.

[marble spruce]

^

i feel like a lot of people want every character to be braindead broken

this happened with kurogiri, he was good but not broken enough so people said he was weak

while this whole time he had a 400 damage beta gamma combo lmao

and now he is getting unnecessary buffs

[vernal meadow]

assault shiggy isn't meta imo

he and mt lady are pretty much interchangable character wise and i don't see her as meta either

but yeah red shiggy just needs fixes on his gamma and he's lowkey fine

[hot moss]

Assault Shiggy fell off hard.
He's not bad by any means just greatly overshadowed.

But honestly I don't see him needing buffs either unless they give him the same hp buff they gave Strike.

He doesn't need damage buffs or anything.
In fact all combo-heavy characters should do less damage considering how much they can combo.

[jagged flame]

He's meta?

Since when?

[hot moss]

Since this season started

[limpid patio]

Shiggy does not need buffs lol, just needs his bugs fixed but other than that he's a really good character

[weak ice]

Frfr

Anyone got any combos except gamma special?

[hollow salmon]

I was joking guys

I do agree that he is fine rn

[flint girder]

Since crossplay his pick rate went up and these past few weeks he’s been super represented

Idk if he’s meta but he feels way more common now

[hot moss]

Meta can have 2 meanings in this game

Either in terms of how powerful a character is obviously, or just how popular and common they are to see.

Shiggy isn't anywhere near the OP side of meta, but he is well-favored to the point he can be considered meta by popularity.

[flint girder]

Yeah popularity/representation and effectiveness are not always directly linked

He’s good enough, and fun to play plus everyone has him

[jagged flame]

https://youtu.be/unYAm_AlN98?si=qO7pyKLuG-CgTRnK

[hollow salmon]

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/koHYFTD6qeuptJEIl?invite=cr-MSx6dkssMzM2MzM4OTg3

its so annoying

happened me again in the same match

its really weird to hit gamma

[hot moss]

I was gonna ask how they join different servers by accident but then I remembered that the server settings have to be changed manually every time you log in for some reason

[limpid patio]

when i join custom games with ppl on different servers it auto switches the region (obv) but for some reason you cant return to menu and switch it back to the server you normally play on afterward, you have to restart the game for it to actually switch you back which is what happened

not that big of a deal tho i just forgot is all

[hot moss]

Ah makes sense

[stiff lark]

I'd say he needs a armour buff to either beta or gamma because for like 6 seasons was the only assault character with no armored moves, and that was the main point of the assault role

[hot moss]

Gamma would make the most sense to have armor on, but even then it's not fair to have that be armoured along with the tracking and stunlocking it already has.
One of those other traits would have to go.

[stiff lark]

Idk cause red kiri a strike unit has armour on his ranged rock that hits almost or as hard as an assault ochaco alpha

They be giving armour out to anyone nowadays

[hot moss]

True, and I don't think he should have armor either, especially since he has a shield anyway

[jagged flame]

It would be stupid if he didn't

His quirk is Hardening

[hot moss]

Exactly, Hardening already increasing defense and having a Shield.
Strike Kiri doesn't need more defense than his Assault counterpart.

And we can't talk about unreleased skillsets
But that shouldn't have that at all.

[jagged flame]

Strike Kiri only has one armored move

Sure his beta gives him a shield

That can block almost everything

I find it stupid that he can block AFO's charged alpha and shiggy SA

[hot moss]

Yeah which is why his gamma shouldn't provide defense when he has a stronger shield than Kendo ever could + his Special lmao

[stiff lark]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMSrGRr1x/ I enjoyed making this

[jagged flame]

Yesterday a Twice chased me across the map

He left his team to chase me and died because of it

[hot moss]

Normal Twice behaviour

[wraith mulch]

build broken

[wraith mulch]

Galaxyeez is very good at Shigara and his movement is incredible

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/90no3y

Using space hop

[wary willow]

[stiff lark]

it's good to see more people using that on both shiggy's

[jagged flame]

I don't use assault shiggy

Often

[obsidian ember]

Anyone know if I should get aizawa, mirio, ibara, afo, or twice?

[stiff lark]

get twice

[stiff lark]

i mean space hop is good for both of them but not alot of players know that tho

[limpid patio]

i know its good, i just dont like the way it feels at all lol

[jagged flame]

I would make a build with revenge rapid and space hop

Space Hop has gotten me out of alot of bad situations

[stiff lark]

to be fair the reason why most don,t use it is because it doesn,t fit there playstlye

[jagged flame]

It takes a bit more thought when using space hop

I kinda struggled a bit at first but adapted to using it

[limpid patio]

yea, i have a build for it and its def not bad at all, i just dont like the floaty feel on characters but thats just me

[jagged flame]

I get what you mean

[hasty kiln]

What is the best way to level up strike Shigaraki in a match

[final saffron]

Good f2p shiggy build?

[hot moss]

That's valid
But trust, nothing feels as good as casually jumping onto an Assault Ochaco platform out in the open to give her a warm welcome as she tries to heal ☕

[limpid patio]

literally did that with assault shigaraki twice the night she was released lol

[hot moss]

Beta max usually for more campy playstyles/strong endgame domination

You can alpha max too though for more overall aggressive playstyles. Can kinda work with levelling either first but beta is the usual

[hasty kiln]

Ty

[hot moss]

Have you had the sky glitch from her platform yet?

[limpid patio]

is it the glitch with strikes beta?

otherwise nah i dont think so

[hot moss]

Nah if you're on her platform at the exact moment it breaks you'll get launched up to the skybox and descend very slowly pff
A funny but very annoying glitch, especially if the storm is closing

[dull egret]

YEET!

[merry jasper]

Dope team combo

[hot moss]

Yep, pretty much lol

[jagged flame]

The match bugged out

[limpid patio]

I really wanna know what triggers his gamma bug but I honestly think it's just random

[hot moss]

Seems to be

[jagged flame]

I was in training mode using space hop

The gamma bug triggered a few times

You can't trigger the bug intentionally

[jagged flame]

I guess I'm a real villain

[limpid patio]

rare sighting of chill enemy's

[jagged flame]

The match was bugged

[limpid patio]

ooohh true

[hot moss]

Okay but

[limpid patio]

i honestly forgot about that bug

[hot moss]

Your teammate's name 😭

[jagged flame]

Don't mention it

[hot moss]

Still not the worst I've seen

[jagged flame]

Well

@hot moss saw this today

[hot moss]

Yeahhh that's the more concerning kind of name..

[jagged flame]

Also saw a person who's name was P. Diddy

We're not gonna talk about it

[limpid patio]

just kids most likely

or very immature adults lol

[hollow salmon]

i hope they fix shiggy tomorrow

[hot moss]

Tomorrow?
Is that when there's an update?

I tried to play him earlier and somehow managed to escape everyone and their ancestors all while my gamma didn't want to have any part to play.
It was agony

[jagged flame]

Yes AM skill set tomorrow

[hot moss]

Oh good god

[limpid patio]

This and matchmaking

I still can't get lobby's, I can get a team but literally nobody else, basically sb at this point

[jagged flame]

Matchmaking has been horrendous this season

Always getting bots in matches

[merry jasper]

Strike shiggy is such a beautiful character

[limpid patio]

hes just built different, no other kit feels as satisfying as his does

[hot moss]

I honestly doubt any other kit in this game yet to come ever will either ngl

[limpid patio]

still cant get lobbys which sucks

[hot moss]

Matchmaking still sucks and people are still dropping the game. Can't say I blame them though

[limpid patio]

im trying to play but it took 30-40 minutes to find a lobby

gonna have to go back to playing other games until next update again

[jagged flame]

They ruined matchmaking this season

The worst it's ever been

[hot moss]

For real
The solo q change is nice, makes it easier for people who don't have friends (me) to rank up, but they butchered everything else.

[jagged flame]

I've never touched solo since like season 7

[hot moss]

Must be nice

[flint girder]

Wtf?!

[hollow salmon]

seems like shiggy still dead

sadge

[hot moss]

So is my will to play

[limpid patio]

yeah his glitch is still untouched

although i did fix it by leveling up his gamma

[hot moss]

Yeah levelling it up does fix it but it's annoying that it happens in the first place

[limpid patio]

it feels like my legs get cut off when it happens

i hate it

[jagged flame]

💀

[hot moss]

Real
For me it happens at the most inconvenient time when I'm trying to escape so I resort to bunny hopping away like an idiot and hoping for the best pff
I make it work but ughhh

[jagged flame]

It's annoying af lol

[dark stump]

I had the glitch happen to me when my Gamma was already Level 9 so I had to PU to get rid of it 😔

[hot moss]

Imagine getting gamma to level 9, dang

[dark stump]

I can two-shot 300HP characters, it's worth it

[hot moss]

Not with the bug still around it ain't

And I mean how do you even max out
I never can 😔

[dark stump]

I just have to be really close to them

[hot moss]

I can 2-shot 300hp characters too but I don't even like to bother using gamma offensively rn
And I hate it cuz me like to grab

[tired moth]

when shiggy does his grab can your teamates use their abilities on the grabbed enemy and he will still take the full damage?

[hot moss]

Yes as long as they don't knock the person out of the grab

[marble spruce]

love your pfp btw

[hot moss]

Thank ye!

[jaunty dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/shigaraki-griddy-fortnite-deku-gif-17088608174764543058

[jagged flame]

https://youtu.be/SV_1nC6gvrk?si=d5j_axpVlLAuyqxg

[hot moss]

The thumbnail is beautiful

[patent forge]

Yuhhh i definitely got hit by that

And if anyone can tell me some things i did wrong im trying to become the ultimate evil in these lobbys

[limpid patio]

i hate when hitboxes do that

[storm frigate]

buff this man

[dark stump]

When you get hit by the arm that makes you go flying, don't air recover like you did there

That attack does hard-knockdown, so you can't get hit by any move until you get up

Which is useful for scenarios like that

[jagged flame]

I don't like fighting underwater

It's much harder to hear where enemies are

[hot moss]

I listen to music

[jagged flame]

I need to focus when playing games like this

[hot moss]

Same
That's why I listen to music.
I have an easier time locking in when my others senses need to be heightened

[limpid patio]

music distracts me when i play this

i have the battle music turned off in this game, mainly so i can hear footsteps or drinking

[jagged flame]

Tbh sometimes I don't hear footsteps at all

I also have battle music turned off

[hot moss]

I've gone a while without battle music so I can listen to heals and footsteps easily and it does help, but idk

[jagged flame]

I turned it off since season 1

[hot moss]

Can't remember when I turned mine off tbh
It's annoyingly repetitive anyway.

Like sometimes if I'm not in the mood to listen to music I won't listen to any, but I've never found my concentration or alertness hindered by having any playing.
I can still tell when people are close by, I can still react in time to a surprise Mirio beta, and I can't be easily snuck up on.
Just something I'm used to ig.

[patent forge]

I didn't want to let the catch up to me so easy byt i had a feeling something was up with that thanks

[long python]

Support strike shiggy when?

[limpid patio]

Pretty sure there was a time some shiggy mains accepted defeat over hawks or before his alpha buff and just played support

I've seen a few like that, they often camp in buildings with max beta but drink team heals, which still isn't bad

[long python]

We need more support strike shiggys trust

Tired of my rando red shiggys dying just revived one yesterday like 3 times he put in no value

Well fighting that is

Could be better off camping and healing

👁️ 👁️

Waiting for the day they make the change

[hot moss]

I used to play more Support with him
But then I realized I was the only person capable of surviving more than 5 seconds on my team of randoms, so they kind of needed me on the front lines I guess.

[long python]

You heal them so they live 😈

Sadly I couldn't get better saves etc

Using basic default outfit since no pur costume

[hot moss]

Nah because then they start thinking I'm made of team heals and don't stop fighting an obvious losing battle lol

[long python]

Well it support shiggy

[hot moss]

Honestly still love his default look

[long python]

They got to learn how to box

Running ibara and deku special tuning

[past urchin]

any yellow shigi techs

i dont wanna see no booboo red shigi

[hot moss]

->

[past urchin]

😫

[long python]

Some support shig gameplay if yalls tryna see how it works

😈 😈 😈

👁️ 👁️

[hot moss]

When I played him as support I would run Compression Magic and give teammates most level cards I got and just be an annoying mosquito to distract enemies when my teammate needed to dip from a fight.
Or if they wanted to play campy then I'd resort to campy support playstyles but it was boring doing that pff

[jagged flame]

Oh nah

I can't be a support shiggy

[hot moss]

Real
Like I did it but I sucked at it. I'm a solo bean I can't Support even if I was to play an actual Support character

[limpid patio]

idk much tech but i know his gamma and beta hit through walls, ig try to use special action more too since it helps alot esp when his combos shred

and just try to get better with his bullet drop ig

[past urchin]

kk thanks queen

[marble spruce]

you can combo off of held gamma if your target has no shield

also his held gamma has like a ridiculous vertical hitbox, you can catch slippery characters very easily with it

[limpid patio]

that hitbox is way too high

snipe characters with it its kinda unfair

[marble spruce]

yeah i agree

im shocked every time i hit someone so high up with it

its weird that it has no visual indicator to actually show how high it reaches too

it just does that

😭

[past urchin]

hmm ok thank you queens

🙂‍↕️

[long python]

Your alpha very good for finishing downed pple since your teamate might be fighting a team and can't thirst. Your alpha linger so you can throw like 2-3 then start healing

With ibara tuning always contest box since your alpha has range and you can beta onto box then open

You can then make heal cards/ whatever team needs

[jagged flame]

This is insane

I would never

Wanna be a support shiggy

[broken pollen]

Hi new here

New dmg record 11k

I 1 vs 3

Rapid All might, Monoma and Rapid toga

the others 2 died earlier lol

[limpid patio]

neither, i suck at being support. I used to main froppy alot and i'd always just go for damage and kills which is something you cant really do with that character esp now

but in my defense she was kinda meta back then

[jagged flame]

She was meta lol

She was really strong

Until she got nerfed

[limpid patio]

i mean shes still not bad, just very predictable

but still wont dominate like she used to

[hot moss]

Bribbit

[hot moss]

Met a really sweet Japanese player who was wondering why Western people sometimes call the boy Shiggy/Shigi lol

Personally I call him Shiggy because it sounds funny and cute but I know some people do it because spelling his full name every time can be hard.

That being said I'm pretty sure he's the only character that has a popular fandom-given nickname, right? At least I can't think of anyone else who is often referred to as something besides a canon nickname.

[tired moth]

Rapid Mights grab beats shiggys grab 😔

[jagged flame]

Makes sense

Wait

All Might gamma doesn't have armor at the start

Shigaraki does

Probably cus All Might gamma has a larger hitbox

[hot moss]

I haven't played but does the grab beat his beta or is that also a no-go?

[jagged flame]

Who?

Also I haven't used Shiggy since the skill set release

I've been using All Might

[hot moss]

If Shiggy grab beats AM beta or nah lol

[jagged flame]

It should

I don't see why not

[hot moss]

Well it doesn't beat his gamma so I was just wondering
I know nothing about the new skillset

[jagged flame]

Well his alpha is a wind-up attack

Fire rate builds up and you have armor and flinch resistance, also 10% defense increase

Moves like Kendo's gamma won't knock down, it'll take more hits to knockdown

Beta has 2 variations
A cross projectile and a lunging forward cross chop

[hot moss]

I have heard he has armour on everything which makes 0 sense

[jagged flame]

Not entirely

[long python]

It's value

[jagged flame]

Mainly his alpha

[long python]

Time to support

[jagged flame]

His beta cross chop only has armor at the end of the animation

It can be interrupted easily

[hot moss]

Still some kind of armor on each ability

[jagged flame]

Yeah but it's niche at best

Gamma doesn't have armor on startup either

But once he grabs you that's 200 damage

You're not escaping it lol

Did I mention it's also an AOE attack?

[hot moss]

Ohh yeah I saw the AOE
Cuz that's what he needs lol

[jagged flame]

I came to the conclusion that he's not better than base All Might

Although some ppl may disagree

He does have more movement and range than base all might but his alpha is pretty stationary

[tired moth]

i dont think that matters because his startup is too fast anyway, his startup is legit a split-second and you have to connect your gamma within that 0.1 second of him activating his gamma basically unless ofc you gamma first but then he will just react with his gamma if there's a bot of distance between you 😔.

It's only viable to use shiggy gamma when rapid mights gamma is on cooldown

Rapid mights grab is also hard to roll out of cause of the tracking

[jagged flame]

I haven't used shiggy since Rapid All Might released

[tired moth]

ah okay

[jagged flame]

Yeah it has really good tracking

[tired moth]

i tested out shiggy grab vs rapid might grab in training and these were the outcomes

you can shiggy grab all might when he does alpha though which is a good thing

and you the shiggy grab will still give you armour when you get hit by rapid might alpha and beta projectile

which is also nice

but im not sure about rapid mights charged beta dash

cause i heard he has hyperarmour right at the end of the dash but its not possible to test ot out in training with the bots

[jagged flame]

Yep

[hot moss]

Oh dang

[stiff lark]

For assualt shigiraki Am will clash if they both use their gammas

[obsidian ember]

What can I do about ppl staying in air when I’m playing shigiraki?

[past urchin]

Play ida

[hot moss]

If they're within range you can try to smack em down with air Special.
Space Hop or Spiral Leap helps with that a lot

[dark stump]

Saving for Space Hop?

you fought against they Toga really well at the end there btw, gj 👍

[sullen magnet]

Hmmm, I've had a question regarding assault Shigaraki's

If I potentially in the future have Assault Shigaraki, what would be the first thing to learn about him?

[long python]

Be shiggy support 👀

You can break buildings twice as fast due to the special action boost 👀

Support your team and get kills 😈

Had bad map RnG civilians

Could have had more

And basic outfit waiting until I get PUR skin

[jagged flame]

What dark sorcery is this

[marble spruce]

he gets a lot of damage out of his combos, so trying to learn those would help

[broken pollen]

I like Revenge Assault too much so no

[long python]

You mean red shiggy combo in storm

Instant death due to storm making them lose green health and grab doing green health

😈

Milk that damage using 4 melee

[marble spruce]

nice

anyone else saving crystals for the shiggy costume banner?

[long python]

i need that no shoes pink pants

for the build im running sadly im using basic free fit

[marble spruce]

idc what i get as long as i get wall runner

[long python]

nerfed atm and on support build

[marble spruce]

i tried it for the first time on a character and its like a drug

need it on everyone

[marble spruce]

i feel you

ive been playing shiggy a while now and havent had a pur for him since i picked him up

game hates me

[long python]

support shiggy when yalls?

[past urchin]

We do not rep support

[long python]

It the truth captain

Needs to be brought to the world

Im not tryna have another red shiggy die on me 3 times with no kills tryna fight

[tired moth]

wait i never thought about doing gamma after melee before 🤣, i normally do that combo but special action after the 4th melee hit

[long python]

Stuff is lethal in storm

You need to hold back once u gamma for it to connect good i think

He already died by the squeeze part or gamma meaning it still had more gas

[limpid patio]

Oohhh, so it's like that for everyone?

[long python]

Most characters its 5 hits

5 or less

Todo is 10

So you stop at nine hits then use beta or something

Todo is gross for that

[limpid patio]

I mean the walking back part when you melee gamma combo

[long python]

Yeah

[limpid patio]

I thought it was just a ping diff on my part

[long python]

If you hold a dif button he moves diffrent if I remebr correctly

[long python]

Nah you good

That support shiggy bag be real

[past urchin]

NO

[quartz kestrel]

I need a help formulating a gameplan with red shiggy

do you play him like tech dabi and play in tight spaces?

[hot moss]

Pretty much
3rd partying and staying on the edges of fights, rather than the direct center is also good, but he is a strong camp character if you want to play him that way.

[hot moss]

ChocolateBalls popping off lmao

Peak satisfaction when that happens

[limpid patio]

3rd alt 😔 , and yeah its really nice when ppl cramp up together in a tight spot like that

his alpha beats his beta in times like that

[hot moss]

Real
It also means you don't necessarily need to enter if it's too much of a death trap

[marble spruce]

shiggy asmr 😋

[candid grotto]

what do i level up first on yellow shiggy?

[quartz kestrel]

I like going 4 beta 4 alpha 4 gamma then max out beta then max out alpha then gamma

[candid grotto]

how well does it work?

[quartz kestrel]

Pretty well for me

[marble spruce]

personally i max beta and gamma and save alpha for last

i dont like his alpha much

beta is fun because you get to snipe people with big rock

[quartz kestrel]

Beta is his biggest dmging move

[quartz kestrel]

I used to do that, but i learned to appreciate his alpha more

His alpha does good dmg for what it is

[candid grotto]

and whats the best combo on him?

[quartz kestrel]

First hit of Gamma > Beta > both hits of gamma > Special action or Beta

Beta as finisher is easier to time but requires aiming

[candid grotto]

but why only one beta is must have if it his biggest dmg?

• why you wrote me to use three gamma's?

they should give him knockout protection while using his gamma, and maybe something like sloweness while beeing in his beta

[hot moss]

No they shouldn't lol

[jagged flame]

Yeah no they shouldn't

[vernal meadow]

he’s fine as is

he has hella stuns so beamer comps get hella benefits

it adds up

[long python]

Facts

[stiff lark]

i suggest you go g4,b4, either a4 or g9,b9,a9 the decision on either gamma 9 or alpha 4 depends on the characters in the lobby

[quartz kestrel]

the only buff i want for yellowshiggy is alpha debris dmg increase

[hot moss]

He doesn't even need that tbf

The only buff I could see him with is the same hp buff Strike got. It would make sense since he's Assault after all but is rather squishy for health.

Since he got the double Special Action buff that can indirectly buff the damage of all his other attacks anyway lol

[marble spruce]

this is all i ask for

his kit is very fun, doesnt need any changes to his damage or how his moves function

[jagged flame]

First time using Shiggy since All Might skill set released
https://streamable.com/2vig55

[long python]

That momo item supporting

🙌

[marble spruce]

her and shiggy should be swapped

[long python]

Im surprised non of them grab civilians

Thats wild

Them civilians will be farmed

Waiting till i get shiggy pur

[jagged flame]

I hate Momo

[long python]

Bruh

[jagged flame]

I hate her for existing

[long python]

Bruh

Shiggy bag about to look like this once I have the build

Support shiggy gonna be good 👍

[jagged flame]

☠️

[long python]

Until then

[jagged flame]

I think I've ran into you in matches

Name is familiar

[long python]

I play everyday

I usually dont hunt for kills so you won't notice me at all much but im there

Kills will line up if i move accordingly

[velvet lance]

Can some one tell me a combo

[frigid belfry]

Beta gamme i guess

[frigid belfry]

Gamma sa

[astral ember]

whats a good build for yellow shiggy?

[hollow salmon]

i didnt know you keep the beta charge if you do the cancel

was it always like that?

[hot moss]

No they only changed it this season

[stiff lark]

Something with either hp or go sucker, space hop or crushing pu

[hollow salmon]

wow how did i miss this

its so good

[hot moss]

Yeah
Adds more traversal ability and good for confusing people in combat.

[quartz kestrel]

whats the tech with space hop?

[stiff lark]

basically it's good at helping you avoid attacks and movement with jump special action instead of using gamma. and when you use your alpha on the ground it's easy to hit you compared with space hop in the air letting you spam more.

It's heavily playstlye depended tho

[jagged flame]

The reason why I hate this character, also this the best way to fight against Froppy
https://streamable.com/3xxml0

[hot moss]

Deserved getting cannon blasted for emoting lmao

But also I'm concerned if anyone actually finds Froppy hard to fight ngl

I know someone that insisted Froppy could always win the MU against Strike Shig just by always jumping over his stuff.
Like, that's not even fighting lol
Froppy ain't winning anything by jumping around.

[limpid patio]

she isnt hard to fight but sometimes i struggle with my attacks being delayed, sometimes i can grab her but her beta will still register while being grabbed so we both take damage which can be annoying if im low on hp

but thats with every character really

you can just special her out of the sky when she charges at you

[jagged flame]

☠️

Cementoss almost died by those cannons with max GP and HP

[hot moss]

Yeah the cannon damage is absurd tbf

[jagged flame]

Exactly

That's why I hate Momo

Ppl ignore it like the damage is justified

I get that it's a cannon but it's crazy

[hot moss]

And I believe it gets affected by gamma damage tuning now, never used to

[jagged flame]

Yeah they fixed it

[hot moss]

I feel like that's something they shouldn't have fixed lmao

[tired moth]

Would you say it’s effective with space hop. I’ve been using spiralling leap which I feels make cancelling more value as you get more distance kinda. But I’m not sure if I get the same value with space hop, like does it still give a bit of forward momentum?

[hot moss]

I've not tried Spiral Leap so I'm not sure of the exact comparison but it is still effective with Space Hop yeah

[marble spruce]

i hate how little knockdown her cannons have

only 150 knockdown per hit

i think after two hits you should be hard knocked down.

[tired moth]

I'm struggling to decide whether i wanna run space hop, spiralling leap or revenge rapid for a build. My main goal was to go shiggy a lot of movement. And i initially visualosed space hop and revenge rapid. Although i still havent tried them both yet. I've only tried spiralling leap and after using it for a bit it has really grown on me cause there are a lot of stuff you couldn't do before like get onto a whole another floor just be doing a jump and one air alpha and you can get on top of most things quite easily without having to waste time climbing or wasting alpha / sa. Though i know i get more height with space hop but im afraid it wont be as smooth as with spiralling leap, cause your gonna have to stop all ur momentum and be stationary to use it

And i'm not sure if revenge rapid is worth either

[jagged flame]

Wallrunner and Space Hop

Space Hop can get you out of situations when there isn't a wall to use wallrunner

Or Revenge Rapid and Space Hop

[hot moss]

Revenge Rapid is good tbf

Honestly any of them together is good. Just mix and match.
Spiral Leap or Space Hop
And Wall Runner or Revenge Rapid

I use Wall Run since I like being able to have the mobility all the time, not just when guardbroken, and I don't really care if my attacks come out quicker or not, I never feel like it really makes any impact. Plus if I needed to I could just use a blue card for that pff

And Space Hop is just neat lol
As I've mentioned before I don't like being too floaty and having quicker forward jumps is more handy for me to have better control over.

[jagged flame]

I've mainly only been using space hop

Honestly might make a forth build for Strike shiggy

[tired moth]

Ahh you guys are lucky, i dont have any shiggy pur skins to make builds for except the cyberpunk skin 😭

i'm hoping to get one in this next costume roll

[tired moth]

oh yeah does a blue card give the same speed increase as revenge rapid?

if it is then yeah i guess revenge rapid aint worth

[dark stump]

Yeah it does

Revenge Rapid gives the same movement speed as 1 Rapid card and gives you Wall Run
I'm pretty sure it didn't increase your animation speed like Rapid cards tho

[tired moth]

oh what, why are people running revenge rapid then 😭

surely it gives more speed no??

but at the same time i doubt people would ever hold a blue card that lasts 20 seconds

And can also say i always pickup and level up cards but i never use them 😭😭

Idk why but it such a bad habit

like i'd hold a level 3 attack and a level 3 assault but never use them 😭

[hot moss]

I think it does increase animation speed

[dark stump]

I thought so to, but I was told otherwise

Maybe I'll test it out later

[dark stump]

Maybe they don't want to run up walls all the time and only when escaping, so they put Revenge Rapid cuz people usually run away when they are guardbroken?

idk I'm just throwing out a possible answer, imo there's 0 excuse for someone to use Revenge Rapid over Wall Run on a PUR outfit but maybe I just don't see the vision 🤷

[jagged flame]

Revenge rapid increases movement speed and allows you to wallrun

Faster movement speed means faster dps

[hot moss]

It's still nothing major and only when you get guardbroken anyway. That's probably best for extremely aggresive players who won't start thinking of retreating once they're on flesh

If I get guardbroken and my enemy is still on shields or gets team healed I'll wanna fall back.

If my enemy is lower than I am I'll keep pushing but I really don't need more dps to finish the job.

[long python]

@jagged flame y you leave?

[jagged flame]

@long python was a bot match so I left

[long python]

half bots

😦

[jagged flame]

Too much

That's 12 bots

[long python]

its ok

free tickets

made us fight a 2v3

😦

half lobbies are fine its when its lowere thats when its good to leave

[jagged flame]

Just came across this
https://youtu.be/3lUN7HDy0cY?si=geZHebPuTERocX8Z

[hot moss]

What is that thumbnail lmao

[hot moss]

I mean, that's cool for a clip montage like that, but I wouldn't personally want to play like that.
Having to keep blue cards all the time and not share with Rapid teammates would get annoying to manage, especially since I like having green cards at the ready in dire situations anyway and don't like other cards clogging up my inventory.

And even without the additional speed Assault's combos aren't hard to land anyway. Just makes it seem like putting in more unnecessary effort for the same results you'd get normally.
But to each their own.

I can understand people using the cards for Strike when doing gamma into SA though since that does actually make it easier to pull off, but it seems kinda pointless on Assault ngl

[quartz kestrel]

Isnt that combo worse and harder than the normal one tho? because they are not taking DoT of beta which usually does 2 ticks for me

The combo he is doing is optimal if their feet arent on the ground which makes it easier

[limpid patio]

not sure why he keeps blue cards, you can hit that combo without them anyway

maybe to just do it faster

[cerulean rain]

The only thing the speeds cards do for that combo is make gamma 2 > beta consistently work on shields

Everything else works consistently on hp

[modern lava]

what special tuning skills should i get for tomura?

[candid grotto]

this clip shows me how bad i'm with assault shiggy

[jagged flame]

Wasn't expecting a Froppy vid

[hot moss]

Bribbit!

Can't blame em tho
The Shiggy isn't Shiggy-ing

[limpid patio]

cant get good lobbys lol, so just been practicing with other characters again

wanna actually go for a high kill game with him but most lobbys have half bots, sometimes full

and figured out that leaving while waiting for a game also gets you sb, so literally forced to play with bots 😔

[hot moss]

WHAT IS THAT PFP

[marble spruce]

giga chad freddy

[limpid patio]

dont mind it lmao, its just brainrot garbage lol

[hot moss]

No it's beautiful

[lyric prawn]

wait is that galaxy A12 the shiggy movement man

big fan you are the reason i target strike shiggys

[jagged flame]

You WHAT!

[quartz kestrel]

he is the movement man

my 🐐

[hot moss]

There's a lot of movement men here tbf

Well... not a lot

But some

[jagged flame]

No women?

[marble spruce]

i try my best but i dont think i qualify to be in the movement category

[quartz kestrel]

I qualify as the assault shiggy combo man

[hot moss]

I qualify as the caffeinated Shiggy :3

[final saffron]

“Everywhere I go, I see his face…”

[umbral stream]

Can someone teach me how to use assault shigaraki

[lyric prawn]

throw things at people before they hit the ground

[umbral stream]

What’s a good strike shigi lvl up order

[lyric prawn]

max out alpha first
and then beta + gamma together

beta is just used as a get-off-me move and battlefield disruption
gamma is best used as movement/chase

learn to use his special action as movement as well
and his melees are really decent as a damage source as well if you are close to anyone

[stiff lark]

i got you, assualt shigiraki is a great 1v1 character and and a solid team fight character use alphas when people are on the floor,in a closed space, or in a group, beta is one of two combo tools,if you're a beginner i suggest only trying to hit people when they are close to you or on the floor.gamma is the best kit tool in your kit good tracking, helps with combos, movement, good consistent damage and a massive hitbox. this is just a basic guide and lvl path would be g4>b4>g9>b>a9 or g4>b4>a4>g9>b9>a9

[umbral stream]

Can you teach me some combos in game

[stiff lark]

ye lemme finish my match first

[umbral stream]

Ok

[stiff lark]

code is 97203

[umbral stream]

Ok

[umbral stream]

Vc?

[stiff lark]

can,t rn

[umbral stream]

Ok

[stiff lark]

don,t go for the combo that involves using both charges of beta and gamma those are un optimal

[umbral stream]

Ok

So beta and tap gamma

[stiff lark]

beta and full gamma

[umbral stream]

Ok

What else

[stiff lark]

this is a one shot combo the only good one that uses both charges but hard to pull of

[umbral stream]

Ok

What is good movement for him

[stiff lark]

i have space hop but you wanna jump special action for extra height then gamma

[umbral stream]

Ok

[stiff lark]

try to never use both charges for movement unless you need to

[umbral stream]

Ok

So he had two combos the one shot and the beta gamma

[stiff lark]

also melee beta melee gamma

[umbral stream]

Can you explain the one shot combo

[stiff lark]

its easier to do with space hop but basically you hit them with beta on the floor then you use gamma instantly to stun them, the you use another beta but don,t hit them but throw it at the ground do gamma again to stun them inside the betas and end in either alpha or special action alpha is more reliable though

[umbral stream]

Do full gamma?

[stiff lark]

no , also i can vc but i'll be muted and unmuted during it. aalso don,t mind the backround noise

[hot moss]

For Strike?

[umbral stream]

Ok

[lyric prawn]

strike yea

[quartz kestrel]

I think the best lvl ups for ashiggy is beta first cause it gains so much dmg per level

[lyric prawn]

strike shiggy alpha is like his best move

max that out first so you can start to melt people and use it to catch people off guard

beta and gamma are more so supplementary

strike shiggy strives on mechanics, tactics and catching people off guard

[quartz kestrel]

Strike is mid

[lyric prawn]

strike is fun

[umbral stream]

Am I doing the combo right?

[quartz kestrel]

Im sorrye

Assault shiggy is fun because he has no clear losing matchups even you can whoop aerial opponents with some combos

[stiff lark]

like that but faster inputs and use your second gamma because they can escape if you spam alphas

[umbral stream]

Ok

[stiff lark]

you can,t hit them with the second beta

[umbral stream]

Do the combo again so I can dre

See

[stiff lark]

ok