Tomura Shigaraki

[jagged flame]

Yeah lol

Still can avoid the ground for awhile

[golden robin]

Because it’s the best tuning in the game?

[candid vigil]

idkk

[stiff lark]

do wall runner and sisterly

[proud hearth]

It’s lame

[golden robin]

It is

[jagged flame]

I should have more ko's

[hoary nest]

needing to play meta is cringe af

[candid vigil]

It has a defence one?

[stiff lark]

Ye the yellow suit i,m currently trying out revenge assault with it

[candid vigil]

We're the sisterly nerfs bad?

[stiff lark]

No I was just trying it out since it was the most broken tuning

[sullen magnet]

I'm glad that I got the Disguise: Long Coat, because it's basically his Default Outfit if you decided to make it cool

And I've wanted it for a while

Probably because of the mask

I'm still trying to get the regret Voiceline for Shigaraki

[candid vigil]

Ohh

[jagged flame]

Someone test Shiggy with space hop

[hot moss]

Apparently it's not worth it

[tired moth]

Wait what 😭

I was waiting for space hop to come out for ages

And now you telling me it ain’t worth it

I wanted to fly 😭

[hot moss]

Apparently it's better for other characters but not Shig

[marble spruce]

lmao what is this targeted hate for shiggy

[tired moth]

can someone pls try space hop with shiggy, and like using the sa after doing the jump

[hot moss]

Ikr
Everyone is free to make their own opinion about it of course but between Space Hop and Spiral Leap it seems like Spiral Leap is better

[jagged flame]

I would prefer space hop on shiggy than spiral leap

[hot moss]

How does it even look?
I'm not home until tomorrow to check out anything yet

[jagged flame]

Neutral jump only

[hot moss]

Ah.
How come you prefer it over Spiral?

[jagged flame]

Spiral you're gonna have a floaty jump all the time

[hot moss]

Hm true

I can see that having annoyances

[tired moth]

Bruh i used 700 tickets but got the ochacho costume and assault shiggy quirkset instead

even tho i already have assault shiggy

these gacha are killing my fun

And you barely get any character tuning data for characters you don't own asw 😭

[jagged flame]

I spent 1200 tickets

I got both idol costumes and no skillset

[tired moth]

oh unlucky bro

do you still have any tix left

and here i was trying to save for my pity

even tho it would of taken me 2-3 months to save for pity which i cba

now, back from 0 probably 4-6 months 💀

what bs

[sullen magnet]

I'm guessing Strike because

He needs to be on the GROUND

Maybe Assault Shigaraki is good for Space Hop

[jaunty dragon]

nah im usin it

on both

wallruner spacehop speaks to me

[hot moss]

Lmao
Rock it

[stiff lark]

i'll test it out on assault shiggy but it doesn,t seem to worth it compared to revenge assault

[jagged flame]

Just pretend this was my ko

[hot moss]

My favorite part was when you absolutely landed that final hit on the Mirio

[jagged verge]

my contribution

[tired moth]

Anyone know how to get pur skins for shiggy 😭, I only got the season 9 rank reward skin

[jagged verge]

i felt like i asked this, but can you gamma into melee/special againts a wall with 2 speed cards active?

[jagged verge]

or make multiple accounts, skip tutorial, claim 100 tickets, roll AND roll for the free roll we get for the next 26 days. Think ima do this for cem

[tired moth]

Is it worth purchasing the second step up roll? After the free one?

[hot moss]

Yes
Although against a wall would you even need the speed cards?

[safe bluff]

I did, because it guarantees a pur skin. out of the 40k gems I spent I got 10 pur cosmetics

[jagged verge]

felt like u do but idk. i dont play shig fr

[tired moth]

40K 💀, howd you have so much

[tired moth]

That's actually pretty good no?

[safe bluff]

Saved up a lot

[tired moth]

i wasted my gems on that step up roll and just got a froppy skin 😦

[safe bluff]

Was waiting for one of these banners

[tired moth]

So this game doesn't want to give me the ochacho skillset or a shiggy pur skin 😭

i give up

[tired moth]

I calculated how long it would take to pity and realised it wasn't worth it

[hot moss]

Welcome to gacha: the leading cause of 90% of players quitting

[tired moth]

do you have any shiggy pur skins?

and did you try pulling for the quirkset?

[hot moss]

I have most of his PURs now but still not his Awakened or the LOV tuxedo outfits

And I got his quirkset a while back after I already lost interest in it lol

[tired moth]

oh no i meant the ochacho quirkset

[tired moth]

oh thats nice

Did you randomly get his pur skins from a random banner?

[hot moss]

OH
Nah lol
I wanna check out her tuning but I'll save and wait until I have enough of her data.

And yeah I've never managed to roll his outfits when I actually try to, only by random chance.
Or with his Disguise coat specifcally I had to pity

[tired moth]

Oh i see

bro its gonna take so long to get her tuning data since we don't own her 😭

i wish they changed that

[hot moss]

I mean they did buff the amount of data you collect so it shouldn't be tooo long hopefully

[tired moth]

But it doesn't matter anyway because i don't even have a pur skin for shiggy which i can equip her special tuning skill on 💀

[tired moth]

i still don't have 100 nejire data after they did that update

in fact i still dont have 100 data for any of the characters i dont own even after that update

because you only get maybe 20 character data for the character you don't own and the chance of you getting data for that character after a match is like 1 in a 100

from my experience

[hot moss]

You will eventually get a PUR but yeah the gacha needs one heck of a rework.
Every new thing added decreases chances more and more of getting what you want.

And dang. It is RNG with who's data you obtain after matches unfortunately. I got over 100 Strike Kiri data before I got him, but my Nejire is still low too

[tired moth]

I wish they'd have more frequent banners instead of only having 2 banners with 3 costumes out of like 60 which last a whole month 💀

like i just wanna have fun playing shiggy

[tardy flower]

Need characters on crystals and skins on gachas

[hot moss]

Skillsets and costumes on seperate gachas
Emotes, voicelines, and default characters be purchasable with crystals. Or gold because gold is actually useless in this game...

Even if they made characters expensive it would be fine. It gives people something more to grind for but at least guaratees you get the character you want.

[tired moth]

Who's sick idea was it to make a gacha system

like i wish you could atleast carry on your roll points from the last banner

i regret spending now, should have just saved

Now i gotta wait another 5 months 💀

probably gonna quit the game by then

no value for grininding as hard as i did just to get nothing

[hot moss]

Even that small change would improve the system by a LOT
Just having pity carry over

[tired moth]

yh

ugh i rather they do that first then any other change to the game

it will make playing it more bearable

than knowing i wasted money on the game

[jagged flame]

That's why I don't spend on this game

And it's way too expensive to pity a character/skillset

$400 to pity a character/skillset

Just did a multi and no one spoke

I'm dying on the inside

[marble spruce]

only time i will EVER spend is if they have the cheap crystal packs. $20 for just a single 10 roll is a scam, but getting 2 out of it with the discounted ticket prices as well is at least somewhat okay for me

ive gotten way better at saving tickets now tho. so i really dont need to spend anymore

oh also, i got cat shiggy on my alt when rolling for assault ochaco hehe

[stiff lark]

i got strike dabi dabi twice when i already owned him

[safe bluff]

400$ or 2 season basically

[tired moth]

2 seasons is basically 5 months though 😔

I ain’t waiting that long and I definitely can’t resist the urge to roll

Especially when I see others get what they want first try

[lapis elk]

This may sound crazy

But I’m loving will power on red shig

Been experimenting with it and love it with wall runner

[jagged flame]

I'm gonna build this
I just want the damage

[candid vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/amish-amish-build-amish-barn-barn-building-gif-13286820

[proud hearth]

Triple alpha and triple beta gonna go HARD

I use Awakened Heat

For triple alpha, triple gamma, and double hp

I do like 150 a choke

[jagged flame]

I don't have his awakened costume sadly

[jagged flame]

I'd do triple alpha, double hp atk and gamma atk

Hp atk makes your gamma stronger

I wouldn't use beta tuning for strike shiggy

[candid vigil]

wait is beta attack + bad?

[jagged flame]

No

I prefer not to use it for strike shigaraki

[candid vigil]

it is quite avoidable to be fair

[jagged flame]

Can I see your Awakened Heat build?

[proud hearth]

Lemme see if I got an image saved

I don’t rn

But when I get home I’ll send you it

[bold maple]

just got cas shig any tips combos etc ?

[jagged flame]

Gamma, beta, gamma, alpha

[vague socket]

Btw guys something that I noticed. If you use strike Shiggy and beta under an assault Ochako’s little island, you can still cause damage

[tired moth]

HUH, so like if your under the floating island it will still hit

i thought his beta could only spread if it was connected to stuff

[jagged flame]

Yeah I realized

[jagged flame]

Yes

It's weird

It's like her gamma is still on the ground but it isn't

Weird programming

[vague socket]

Bad for her, great for us fr fr

[jagged flame]

If you do a rez on the plaform
Your teammate will appear on the ground

It shouldn't be that way lol

But yknow the devs they don't test these things

[unreal halo]

Is willpower good on shiggy

special tuning

[hot moss]

Not really. Not for either Shiggy tbh

Willpower seems to only really be good on select few characters like Mirio or others with strong ability to escape very quickly

Or wait was that one of the Tunings that was buffed?
I can't remember what ones did.

I just know the Sisterly and High Speed Replenished nerfs

If Willpower didn't get buffed then no it's not good for Shig

[cerulean rain]

Indestructible, quasi-permestion, camoflauge, speedy self-revive all got buffs
Gp sucker also got a nerf

[hot moss]

Wait I thought the self-revive was a nerf wasn't it?
Takes a second longer or something?

[marble spruce]

no its a second shorter

[cerulean rain]

No it was buffed, went from 11 seconds to 12 off of the timer

[marble spruce]

8 instead of 9 seconds now at max level

[hot moss]

Oooohhhh gotcha
Dang I misread that lol

[marble spruce]

best tuning so you can humble people bming you

they never expect it to be so short

[jagged flame]

I'd rather use Trance Blow on shiggy

[hot moss]

That seems more useful yeah

[jagged flame]

Gives you the chance to deal more damage with your beta and alpha

If only I had his awakened costume

[lapis elk]

Is trance blow on red shiggy useful?

[jagged flame]

Yes

[lapis elk]

I was debating it but wasn’t 100% sold on it

Wall runner trance blow may be the play

[lapis elk]

Something like this?

[jagged flame]

Yep

[stiff lark]

If only I got that costume

[balmy hawk]

Trance is fine but I've found more often if I have alpha or beta down I just want to M1/m1/m1/m1/m2

and get the damage that way

[lapis elk]

Trances slow effect is nice

That’s the most valuable thing it adds

Especially on an aggressive character like shig

[stiff lark]

The great shiggy escape

[nova heron]

I'm in love with the way you just melee'd over the Aizawa

[proud hearth]

@jagged flame Sorry I forgot to send u this

Triple Alpha, Triple Gamma, Double Hp

[jagged flame]

I wish I had this costume

Willpower is questionable on red shiggy

[jagged flame]

It's beautiful

[proud hearth]

I do it to stall out team heals

And it’s saved me so many times I can’t remove it

[jagged flame]

Gamma is gonna do alot of damage

[proud hearth]

I think at max it does around 150

But that’s last I checked

[jaunty dragon]

its the best one

int erms of raw dmg

my go to

i've also ran Crushing PU + Card dupe onnit thats p fun, honestly wish i could dupe the skin and all its sub tunings and have a skin just for that

[jaunty dragon]

nah it + Wallrunner is p solid on him

[jagged flame]

Was thinking about most situations

You won't be able to disengage

[jaunty dragon]

i mean open field sure

give me literally any building and iim cracking ankles

[unborn blaze]

How do you get shigaraki's special action to take you more than a millimeter of the ground 😭

I feel like I barely gain any height with it and then I see people go much higher

[hot moss]

Stand still as you jump as neutral jump takes you higher than forward jumping, and pressing the Special Action almost instantly so you don't lose momentum

[unborn blaze]

So it's momentum-based, I see 👀

Thanks

[hot moss]

👍

[proud hearth]

You lost me at Crushing PU

I need dat triple alpha damage

Card dup ain’t a bad idea tho

[jaunty dragon]

i want it but ig i dont always neeed it

[proud hearth]

Yep

I run Willpower to stall out heals

It also keeps me alive longer

[jaunty dragon]

only thing bout crushing PU is with lost alpha dmg or not

[proud hearth]

Yeah I’d prefer the extra alpha damage tho

[jaunty dragon]

idk when to use it on red lmao, feels too niche on him, other more aggressive characters might get a better use out of it, maybe even yellow shiggy

[proud hearth]

I love seeing people just melt

[proud hearth]

Yeah on some characters it’s not as effective

[sullen magnet]

Man it took so long to get another Shigaraki Voice Line

But I finally got Pokémon Shigaraki

Aka "Tch. That Backfired..."

I also got the watchful eye emote, pretty cool

I can finally stop saying "Sorry." To people

[potent sequoia]

Any shigaraki mains that wanna show me how to use him or any links that could help I’m on ps5

[hot moss]

Which Shiggy?

[potent sequoia]

Strike

[hot moss]

All the guides I know of are pretty dated tbh

He's not a hard character to get the hang of thankfully, you just want to play around clutter and interiors, trying to avoid fighting in open ground as much as possible.

If you're caught out in the open make sure move around a lot to be as nimble as you can.
Try to avoid standing in one spot when throwing out your alphas and instead jump around with each alpha, sending them in a fan shape to cover as much ground as possible and following where the enemy is heading, not where they are.
He is a character that works best without aim assist.

Beta is ideal to max out first on pretty much every map as the final circle will be your playground if you can get that to level 9 and stay around buildings.

His gamma does have armor but isn't ideal to use offensively when there's multiple people around. When that's the case try to use it moreso for repositioning or to bait attacks from the enemies.

Don't sleep on his Special Action. It provides Defense Down on enemies and can be used in combos such as after landing a melee chain, or gamma throwing into the Special, or just for catching wake ups if you jump with it due to the tracking.
You can also use it for height if you jump and look up, that is his vertical mobility.

He's not tanky, so don't overstay your welcome in a fight, make sure you always have a clear route of escape. Make use of his air movement to juke people.

And early game it's preferable just to not really fight at all until you get alpha and beta to 4 at the very least.

That's like the basic rundown of his character that I can give.

[final saffron]

Does shiggy get like super armor or something in his grab?

Because istg I hit him with overhauls gamma and he powered though

[hot moss]

Yes lol he does

[final saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/shigaraki-overhaul-mha-bnha-gif-19419891

Well I at least know now

[terse pelican]

so i decided to make a guide from all i learned playing strike shiggy for 10 seasons
https://youtu.be/yeZpc-dq01Y

if any other mains would like to suggest stuff for me to add to it

[tardy flower]

Great content thanks

[timid pecan]

Assault shiggy

[terse pelican]

Id have to get him first lmao, i miscounted and got to 190 pity on his banner

[timid pecan]

oh

lol

[sullen magnet]

"Wow. Great."

Nice guide ^^

[tired moth]

thanks bro, i learnt a lot of stuff that i didn't know before

i honestly love how much skill you need with this characer

even though he's easy to pick up, if you have skill you can become way better

[hot moss]

You covered a lot of lesser known info which is nice to see, however I do have some suggestions for additional things if you ever plan to make an even further in-depth guide!

For one, you covered how his alpha affects fall rate which is good, but you could maybe show in a match how falling faster aids in escape tactics and why it's ideal to use alpha to descend as much as possible over using gamma or beta to do so due to ammo count usage.
(You might've said this during the match and I missed it, so please correct me if I'm wrong)

His air Special tech has a few other key points to note if you wish to get maximum height potential from it.
It's momentum-based so when you jump you want to press Special at the peak of the jump before you slow down.
You also want to stand stationary when you try to perform it as neutral jumping takes you higher than jumping forward. Moving forward at the same time as you hit the Special Action though does also aim in that momentum boost.

You went over some of his combos, but I didn't notice you mention how you could do beta into melee x4 into gamma
(Again, correct me if I'm wrong I may have just missed it.) But that's very strong combo for him albeit not a true one.
Alongside this you could mention gamma whiffing and how that can be taken advantage of when it happens if you're quick enough, since it leaves an opening for melee combos when the opponent is stunlocked momentarily.

You could also mention how that in order to aim reliably with him you need to aim where the enemy heads, not where they are exactly, or sending alphas in a fan shape which covers more ground and makes hitting people with high jumps far more likely. Though the attention to alpha stacking is nice!

And his gamma is armored so maybe you could've gone over a few enemy attacks that Shiggy can armor through for those that aren't sure, like Strike Denki alpha/gamma/Special, Overhaul gamma, Strike Shoto gamma, etc.
As well as moves he can't armor through like Strike Dabi beta, Tech Dabi beta, Strike Kiri beta, etc.

These are just additional things, I'm not at all trying to make it sound like your guide wasn't good enough! It absolutely was! I'm just sharing some of my own knowledge from 10 seasons of suffering with him too 👍

Holy yap-
-# I'm so sorry...

[jaunty dragon]

nice

:D

[balmy hawk]

It's not just momentum based; it's also directional input based LOL. What you press AS you use it impacts velocity. His Special action is INSANELY, deceptively complex.

[balmy hawk]

m1, m1, m1, m1, alpha gamma isn't true but it's an easy tech chase combo.

(Have to step cancel backwards on the 4th m1 for placement)

[hot moss]

True, I wouldn't say it's insanely complex though, just a pig to get the flow of if you want to try and get max height from it. It's also easier on KBM compared to controller lol

[balmy hawk]

compared to what it reads, it is deceptively complex was my point

no other move tracks both directional momentum and INPUT at time of use the same way

[hot moss]

Ohhh right yeah
Sorry I woke up like 5 minutes ago

I wonder if they'll ever update skill info to be more accurate/detailed

[balmy hawk]

also, I challenge the claim of "easier on KBM than controller"

because for 7 seasons people said that a certain specific height couldn't be achieved on KBM

until I labbed the consistent tech for it

and showed them they could LOL

it was a height you could achieve on controller

and KBM players literally wrote it off as impossible LOL

[hot moss]

Couldn't be achieved on KBM?
I've always heard the opposite that it can't be achieved on controller

[balmy hawk]

no it was actively deemed impossible tech LOL

I can drag out the old records if you really need

but given that I developed it for KBM I'm p. sure I know what I'm talking about LOL

there was no consistent, on footage KBM setup for maximum Special Action jump height and no written record of it, and now there is and all of the advice people give on it is inherited from what I shared with the community lol. Like I try not to have an ego in the space but I've been here for two years and labbed tech for basically every bottom tier (back when red shiggy could still be called that LOL)

he's def high-middle of the pack nowadays

[hot moss]

You don't need to, I'm just confused.
I've never heard anyone say it was impossible for KBM, I've only been told for ages that it was controller users at the disadvantage for it, and I've seen KBM players do the tech much smoother than any I've seen from controller users too

[balmy hawk]

I been here since S1 and I've seen the whole journey, idk man

so when I started labbing red shiggy was around S5, I think? And at the time there were a few tech videos out but they were all controller

and I started asking about one specific tech I couldn't replicate, and that was the advanced height special action jump

and every controller player told me it wasn't possible on KBM and the two best red shiggies on KBM at the time told me the same

like yes he could get height

but the maximum (a single special action and alpha backflip to clear the walls in construction on USJ) was impossible

or for a more realistic standard, the little gap in the center of UA High, even, though this is accomplishable without the more complicated optimization

and then I labbed it and figured out and broke down the properties of how Shiggy Special Action actually works

afaik I'm the first recorded instance of "it tracks horizontal AND vertical momentum" + "it has DI" (a la smash bros where directional input at same time as input of the special action impacts the end result) and the first red shiggy on kbm to repeat the tech consistently on footage.

I could absolutely be wrong but it was a whole point of pride for me LOL

If someone else knew the tech/setup before, they were gatekeeping it cuz I looked EVERYWHERE

I'm positive the generalized version of the tech is easier to accomplish on KBM than controller, but the sweatiest controller red shiggies were getting height that no KBM player was coming close to

so let me dilineate and make the point clear;

The tech may very well have been doable and accomplishable by KBM beforehand. There was no consistent documentation of it.

Due to this, the information felt out of reach and my bias is probably skewing my perception of the reality. There were plenty of clips of Controller players accomplishing the max height, and the few that existed for KBM never accurately or thoroughly explained how.

but due ot my difficulty in finding documentation

and my interviews with the various red shigs at the time

it felt like controller favored tech

as opposed to KBM favored tech

[hot moss]

Huh, I mean that's fair enough I just don't know why people I've seen from other servers have been saying different.
Unless they just say it because they hate console players, which is possible tbf. There are a lot of petty people like that

But yeah clearing the USJ landslide walls with a single Special into alpha has never been difficult for me personally on PS, but I didn't think that would've been hard for KBM, especially since my old controller had input delay so I was never getting the maximum height for it anyway

[balmy hawk]

it was impossibly inconsistent until I labbed it for the community

a standing, no momentum jump into special action was not enough

without the hard DI input as well it didn't work

either way

he has two now

so you don't need to worry about optimizing it at all LOL

[hot moss]

I see
I've never had a PC so I can't really gauge all the differences through my own experience. I only know how things work for a (faulty) controller lol
But I've seen some people on KBM reach heights I've never been able to before, and a lot more fluidly too, which is why I figured what I heard from people was probably right, but that's interesting if it's actually harder.

And true, I want to get into a habit of still tryna use the one Special sometimes just so the time spent tryna get that down doesn't feel so wasted pff

[hot moss]

Also this could be possible.
I mean maybe, you probably did make the discovery lol
But I know a lot of labbers that gatekeep at least something about their mains
Or like me, they might know some things but are unable to make actual videos of it.
That's why I never fully take credit for the things I "discover" even when I've never seen anyone else doing them.

[dark stump]

It's slightly easier on kbm
Controller you are required to play at a high sensitivity, and even then due to the nature of controller aim the perfect timing and inputs of the R-stick is required
Special Action and Alpha jumps that took me weeks to master on controller I've been able to replicate on kbm instantly

But that's really it, the learning curve for Special Action + Alpha movement on controller is so much larger, but once you really get used to it there's very little difference in how easy it is to achieve the same results
Thank god Strike Shiggy is easy to aim with, because aim assist actually hurts him more than it helps.
So in the end Shiggy on controller and kbm isn't really different, it's just up to preference

[hot moss]

Easy to aim with yet I still flawlessly fail at that 💅

[sullen magnet]

Same, but who NEEDS to aim?

We got Fingers

And prediction

[jaunty dragon]

nah i switched to controller and tried it using his SA for movement and it wasnt only easier but felt more intuitive on controller than it did KBM

idk what it is for me tho esp with neutral jump, simply moving one finger vs three is much easier

[jagged flame]

Almost there

Solo queue is terrible

[balmy hawk]

facts

[balmy hawk]

if you on rn we can queue and get you closer

[stiff lark]

I tried space hop instead of revenge assault and honestly it's pretty good on both assault shiggy

[jagged flame]

Has anyone ever landed both special action

It works only on HP and you gotta have some height to land it

[hot moss]

I have yeah

Wait I'll find the clip

[hot moss]

It works on GP too
But granted this was against a wall

[jagged flame]

I did it in the open

No walls

[hot moss]

Ah, yeah I've done it in the open before but only like twice I think so far.
Once against a Frog, another against a bird.

I only clipped that Mirio one though because that was the first time as a whole I'd ever managed to do it

[tardy flower]

My SA almost never lands

[jagged flame]

This all I got

Why when I upload videos on discord mobile

The quality is horrible

Does it look like 480p for yall also

[hot moss]

Yeah but it doesn't bother me lol
Can still see what's happening clearly

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/po39iu

[marble spruce]

328 damage?!

that was a visual bug surely right

[sullen magnet]

Question

What's currently the PUR Costume with the most Red Slots

For Shigaraki

I want it specifically for Strike

[jagged flame]

I don't think it was a bug

That was Ochaco taking damage

[marble spruce]

ohhhhhhhh, it looked like you did that much on a grab to momo for a second LOL

[jagged flame]

Awakened (Heat) and Evil Knight (Fancy)

[acoustic dove]

hey shigaraki mains

wtf is this? I never want this to happen to me ever AGAIN please and thank you

[jagged flame]

Ohh

You got clipped in wall

[hot moss]

Laggy City being as buggy as usual
Can't blame the Shig 😔

[jaunty dragon]

yeah thats just new map jank why u askin us 😭

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/09pkai

[tired moth]

i just want a pur skin 😭

[safe bluff]

How do you not have one

[jagged flame]

Getting hero souls is annoying

[stiff lark]

i wanna get some but i have to wait 30 days for the next new content before i soin for it

[jagged flame]

I need 60 tickets to roll

[sullen magnet]

You got stick in a wall

You fell in the hands of Shigaraki beta

It's not your day, Neon

[tired moth]

I mean i don't have one for shiggy yet, apart from his cybergangster skin

[unreal halo]

did anyone know that shiggy can get a 20 damage upgrade on his alpha with tuning

[jagged flame]

Never did the calculations before

https://youtu.be/WHnYpVrFrB8?si=1HElz-GR4JKvoEO7

[tired moth]

my goat

its cause of him i became a shiggy main

though idk if he'd be better on less laggier servers 🤣

cause it looks like the laggy servers he's playing on also work out for him pretty well

[tired moth]

anyone know if a shiggy pur skin is gonna be in a future banne anytime soon? Or how i could check myself?

[jagged flame]

We don't know

[marble spruce]

nothing this season

[jagged flame]

Sometimes you just gotta SA

[jagged flame]

Having a good Aizawa is fun

[dark stump]

We love Aizawa teammates

[hot moss]

You guys get teammates?

[marble spruce]

you guys play mhur?

[jagged flame]

I made it with Shiggy

This world shall know pain

[sullen magnet]

"I'm having fun!"

[hot moss]

We love when our boy has fun ☕

[jagged flame]

If it wasn't for Trance Blow the frog would've gotten away

[jagged flame]

Some of yall may not know this but Embrittlement got shadow buffed when Shinso released

It's now a 25% debuff

For some reason they mixed up shiggy SA debuff percentage onto Embrittlement

[jagged flame]

Revenge Rapid also got shadow buffed

Movement speed is now 20%

It has to be a bug somehow

I don't know if revenge strike and revenge Technical were affected also

[hot moss]

Yeah ngl I've had my eye on Revenge Rapid because of that
But idk if it's a bug so I'm sticking with Wall Runner for now

[jagged flame]

I'll test it out

[jagged flame]

I just think it got Shadow Buffed

And besides

I get to gamma into SA

[hot moss]

Lmao

I might run it
Could be handy

So that I only have to run up doorways sometimes instead of all the time hehe

[jagged flame]

Why is he running?
It's illegal to start a shiggy 1v1 then run away

[hot moss]

Most likely a new player cuz what was bro doing?

[proud hearth]

Being a goober

[hot moss]

Omg
I love goobers

[jagged flame]

@hot moss should I switch todoroki for GP attack

[hot moss]

I mean the gamma attack is good but since you already have both hp attacks to boost it sure GP attack wouldn't be a bad shout

[jagged flame]

I just want to maximize the damage for his alpha

Also what I noticed

His alpha gets +20 for each

Tuning

[hot moss]

Can't blame ya
I like to go alpha damage too

[sullen magnet]

It's very funny how at level 1, all his Voicelines feels like he's enjoying himself with his attacks

And then at Level 8-9 he wants to murder someone

[jagged flame]

Now I just need to level up the special tuning slots

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/ibfnre

[hot moss]

Thank you for keeping us poor souls fed

[jagged flame]

My alpha is dealing 128 damage on hp

With his SA active it's dealing 160 dmg on hp

[hot moss]

Niiicce

[jagged flame]

https://youtu.be/EnWoNC9FoqI?si=V1NeMqIppELcLrTn

[hot moss]

I don't think they know what combos are lmao

Jokes aside I'm surprised Galaxy doesn't use any of the bigger combos.
Not that basic melee-ing isn't effective too
But some of them seem more like lucky/spur of the moment hits over planned actions

I feel like I'm always too critical of Galaxy pff
I do love their content and their goated as heck

[dark stump]

Yeah almost every clip in that montage is a string, combos are when the opponent are caught in a series of moves and either can't do anything (true combo), or their options are very limited (untrue)

The fact that they are strings doesn't stop them from being cool as heck tho

[jaunty dragon]

i think he's okay

not like super insane or anything

[hot moss]

Glad someone agrees.

I mean I do think he's incredibly good and it's nice to see Shiggy gameplay like that, but he's definitely a little too overhyped for what he does.
Yeah to average mains or people that don't play Shig at all they can look at the videos and be absolutely gobsmacked like they've just seen a holy deity in action, but when you know your way around the character enough it's easier to look past the crazy camera movements and flashy flips to start noticing that he has his own flaws and could be doing things a lot better in certain situations.

Try and make constructive criticisms though about him to anyone and they bite your head off for it lol

[tired moth]

what flaws does he make?

[hot moss]

Depends on the video.
For instance the movement one he made that got popular had him waste cooldowns a lot unnecessarily. It was pretty obvious he was putting an emphasis on being extra for content sake in that specific video, more than usual.

Like one point I've mentioned in the past has him "escaping" a fight by looping around a building in the most unsubtle manner, and wasting every single move just to do ultimately nothing with them. He managed to get everything on cooldown, even his Specials which is never smart.
Not to mention wasteful to use when there's a jump pad right next to him lol

Things like that are just what I pick up on.

[cerulean meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/ob972a

[tired moth]

someone mind telling me how i died?

was i not just around the corner?

[jagged flame]

The Honda hit you

I've experienced this alot this season

[tired moth]

this character has such broken hitboxes for both her beta and gamma

How'd she even recover that fast to throw a car 😭

[jagged flame]

Just found out you can do this on GP

[hot moss]

That's been known

[jagged flame]

You should've told me

[hot moss]

I figured you already would've known, plus it's not something I usually think about

[cerulean rain]

you can also do it with grounded collapse hand but it's extremely tight and doesn't work against training mode bots since it requires latency

[tired moth]

i didnt even know you could do that at all

the build i want, but i don't have the skin 😭

[flint girder]

I’m using space hop on Yellow Shiggy but I don’t get why it’s so good, I feel kind of sluggish/slow w/ it

[hot moss]

Yellow Shiggy doesn't seem like he'd benefit too much from it from what I've seen

[past urchin]

Space hop seems peak tho

Don't need to use gamma to go up as much n use it for combos

[flint girder]

Really? I was told space hop was specifically for Yellow Shiggy, and that wall runner was better on Red Shiggy

[hot moss]

Lmao who said that?
Space Hop is really good for Red alongside Wall Runner

[flint girder]

idk, I've read it I think it was either here or on another discord server

My bad then

I think the person said it was good to throw multiple alphas in one jump but meh

I have my bad build anyway and I'm not about to spend more resources on another one but it's frustrating

Testing stuff is too expensive and trusting people is risky

[hot moss]

I can see that but Assault Shig should always move around a lot with his alphas tbh, and Space Hop only affects stationary jumps.

Plus due to the floatiness of Space Hop even if you do use it to get more height, you're still more susceptible to being shot at, since you can't roll in the air and your movement is slower as opposed to just using a gamma to get the height, even if briefly.

It's not bad on him but it's not game-changingly great for him either.

[flint girder]

Yeah that's pretty much how I feel like after testing it

But I couldn't know for sure before testing anyway

I like both Shiggy anyway so it's not lost

And I don't have any costume that can have both wall runner and space hop

[hot moss]

Yeah he only has 2 currently
The Dangerous version of his Disguise Coat and I think his default LOV Tuxedo (don't know the exact name of the outfit)

[stiff lark]

It's really good for yellow shiggy because in endgame you can jump and use alpha giving you height and avoiding damage and makes you not have to waste gamma for movement

[hot moss]

But that still falls into the issue of being floaty and easier to hit. In endgame that'd only really be beneficial against grounded enemies.

[unborn blaze]

Does he have a costume that can run both? Ideally with wall runner at level 11

[hot moss]

Yeah his Dangerous variant of the Disguise coat and one of his (I think Default) villain tuxedo outfits both can run them.

Without checking though I'm not sure but I have the build on his Disguise Coat and I think that one has Wall Run at level 11

[stiff lark]

Nah even against ranged enemys during endgame to avoid the crossfire

[hot moss]

I mean that still seems pretty situational

[unborn blaze]

Thanks honestly I love his grounded mobility but I think him getting stuff like wall runner makes him harder to hit, idk if space hop or spiraling leap would be better for him though

[hot moss]

Tbh I think it comes down to personal preference, there's a lot of debate for which seems better out of those 2. I can understand the argument that Spiral Leap can cause some hindrances, but same with Space Hop. Just kinda depends on what suits you the best.

But yeah I like any option for mobility enhancement or just aid in his survivability in general. I don't really care for enhancing his damage

[unborn blaze]

And something I really should have asked a LONG time ago 😭 what's his best level-up path?

So far I've been going with A4 B9 A9 G9 and I have no idea if that's any good

[flint girder]

Oh I'm a fraud, I'm using Spiral Leap and not Space Hop, I got the names mixed-up (not playing in English)

I did try space hop on another character and I really don't like it at all.

I've played a few solo games with Spiral Leap today on Strike Shiggy and it doesn't feel THAT bad, since you can still alter your jump with alpha to "make up" for the floatyness

And alongside his special action I get more often that not enough height, but I'm probably going to miss wall runner in UA map

[hot moss]

Honestly yeah that's a pretty solid level path.

Beta max is typically always the way to go on every map especially if you know how to survive until endgame consistently or camp buildings well.
But as long as your alpha is level 4 you can do fine with just that

[flint girder]

But since I'm running Wall Runner on every single other character I've built, at least this is something different to mix things up

[unborn blaze]

Honestly wall runner is overall my favourite tuning, it becomes even better if you learn the tech

[flint girder]

For Strike or Assault?

[flint girder]

Wall runner is cracked for sure

[unborn blaze]

Strike ;p I don't have assault yet

[flint girder]

Running strike as well, with Kota finder, so my path is ABY4 then B9 A9, or A9 B9 depending on mood

[jagged flame]

I was the 3rd party this match

[flint girder]

Nice

This is what I'm running rn

[hot moss]

Not sure about Kota Finder but to each their own

[flint girder]

2 B reload speed, 2 special action reload speed, 2 Y damage up and a HP damage up, w/ Kota finder so my Y is at least 4, meaning I get great damage

[flint girder]

I spawn in the middle of the map, Y gets me to Kota really fast

But since I'm not running much red, you can put anything here

I just didn't like the other options that much

[hot moss]

That's fair but if other people have Kota Finder too he can struggle to fight for him early game

[flint girder]

For sure, I'm not taking hard 1v1 if I spot someone on Kota, but the 90% of games where I get him, especially when playing in squad

And I really, really like the early levels

You could theorically check in the lobby for other Kota finder users and plan accordingly

But I'm too lazy for that

Y4 without investment really makes early to mid game that much easier

[hot moss]

I'm thinking of running Trance Blow on one of my builds, to give more incentive to melee with something I'm working on. Seems pretty good 👀

[flint girder]

Trance Blow is the other option I was thinking about, but I don't have Shinso

[hot moss]

Also that's fair. Card Dupe would also be good for early game levels, but again to each their own lol

[flint girder]

True

[jagged flame]

https://youtu.be/XrxAtm8HHwc?si=AOQDLrHH0FTpGl1v

[hot moss]

You're always quick to send those lol

[jagged flame]

I like watching his videos

And I'm still learning how to use this character better

[flint girder]

I had a blast playing Red Shiggy today, I’m starting to get the hang of Spiral Jump, I have not missed getting Kota a single time (though one time I got him really late, revived 2 mates and got ´em back up to speed using Kota

Maybe not optimal but good enough

But now I can see how spiral jump is basically a more versatile but less powerful wall runner. When the walls aren’t in your favor you still have good aerial mobility, when the walls are medium size you still climb them very fast w/ jump, wall jump, click aim to reset position and special action twice

the fun part is I feel very proactive, which means it’s easier to mess up but also I have more fun

[jagged flame]

I'll never use spiral jump on strike shiggy

I'd rather use space hop

[flint girder]

It's okay honestly

[umbral stream]

Qss shigi lvl up order

And combos?

[stiff lark]

Qss?

[hot moss]

Quirk skillset
So Assault Shig

[stiff lark]

i got you then (assault shiggy main)

[stiff lark]

Personally i do gamma4, beta4, gamma9, beta 9, alpha 9. some basic combos are beta gamma, gamma beta Sa if close, gamma beta gamma beta (unoptimal) and gamma beta gamma alpha. Theres more combos i know and a Tod but i,m thinking of making a video about that

[hot moss]

Tbf everything he does is a combo lol

[jagged flame]

Assault Shiggy just feels like too much effort for such little damage sometimes

His alpha is easily dodgeable

[umbral stream]

Why gamma maxed first

[hot moss]

I mean most characters' alphas are easily dodgeable tbf

[jagged flame]

Well yeah

But for such a wide attack it's kinda underwhelming sometime yknow

[hot moss]

Yeah I get what you mean

[stiff lark]

because the hit box on lvl 9 is crazy,it's basically you're high damage and escape tool,plus it's the best thing about yellow shigaraki

[hot moss]

I feel like a level 9 gamma would make his escapes a little worse since he'd make himself more obvious and trackable, wouldn't it?

On the extremely rare occasions I've used him I always went for beta max to make the end circle a lava pit, then alpha max - never needed gamma above 4.
But then I've never cared for doing his combos either which is typically why people max gamma.

[jagged flame]

You can escape Twice gamma alpha combo

With his beta

[stiff lark]

nah because unlike red shiggy his gamma covers a meduim amount of space compared to a large one and,since i try to avoid using it for movement unless i have to reach i high place,so i can do big damage with combos

[hot moss]

Fairs
I rarely ever used his gamma for offense, only for mobility lol

I know he's pretty bad without his combos but they just make him far too predictable as a character which has never been my cup of tea.

[jagged flame]

His gamma has pretty good tracking

[hot moss]

It does and I honestly don't think it should even have tracking. It just seems like a kinda weird move to slap it on given the AOE/hitbox of it anyway

[tired moth]

But doesn’t the spiral jump make you too floaty and easier to hit when you’re in the air? And correct me if I’m wrong doesn’t the spiral jump also give you less horizontal distance on your forward jumps compared to default, so you won’t be getting the max distance out of you air alphas and betas? Could you also elaborate on what you mean by proactive. Or even better show some gameplay so I can get a better sense of this special tuning on shiggy 🙏

[stiff lark]

by the way this is a little tech i only use if you hard knock someone down, look straight down then gamma and with lvl 9 u can catch their wake up no matter where they move to

Here's a clip of that said tech

it'a not level 9 in this clip but you see where i,m heading with this

[hot moss]

That's why you don't quick-recover lmao
Most characters with good wakeup-catching potential is better to let yourself get up slow against

[stiff lark]

thats true, but even if you do wake late get up you can still catch em with a lvl 9 gamma unless if they're mirio or smthing

[hot moss]

True but the timing is more strict on the Shiggy's part in that situation.

I've always slow-recovered against Assaults and the few times they've tried to use gamma they did it too soon so the i-frames meant I could avoid taking the hit and jump away just before the invincibility ends

[dark stump]

Make Asshiggy's Gamma grab people like FB Beta, that would be so cool

[hot moss]

Until it happens to you

[dark stump]

I wanna yoink the Rapidgo to the ground

[dark stump]

Yeah if I'm playing Nejire

[hot moss]

Do not speak that foul name in these parts!

[stiff lark]

by the way nejire into both strike and assault shiggy is the worst match up in the entire game🥀

[jagged flame]

Assault Shigaraki idk

[jagged flame]

I took his life as the start of the match

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326

[jagged flame]

This poor strike bakugo

[flint girder]

It does make me floaty and easier to hit.
In combat scenario, I just use alphas to cancel my jumps if I’m just trying to be harder to hit.
You definitely get more horizontal distance but it’s slower, so yeah if you want to keep the same rythm you won’t be going as far.
However, you can « chose » the height of your jump by timing your quirks at different times, you can get decent height without relying on a wall, and wall jumps are also boosted meaning you can scale medium size building pretty fast too.

It’s probably not as good as wall runner, if you’re looking for efficiency.
However you get to play around and manage your jumps which is completely unique.

Oh and if you like air special action into gamma, it’s not really usable with spiral jump.

[dark stump]

Love it when randoms voluntarily let me steal their kills

[hot moss]

Not really

[hot moss]

Colorful boiyo

[tired moth]

I need to see some gameplay of the stuff you mention to get a better sense. Do you think you can record some of the stuff you’re talking about?

[flint girder]

Honestly if you're at the level you want to review gameplay you're probably way better than me

I don't have anything setup to record gameplay

But it's very basic stuff

I'm not even sure I'm doing the special action correctly

[hot moss]

I threw an Assault Ochaco off guard because Space Hop meant I was able to get onto her platform and rain down my beta onto her hehe

[jagged flame]

I started using Assault Shiggy yesterday

Kinda fun

[tired moth]

oh no i just have a hard time trying to grasp something without seeing it visually 🤣😭

[tired moth]

anyone know what i could have done in this situation?

It's a long clip and a lot has happend

but especially the part where i died. Anyone know what i could have done right after i grabbed the deku?

it was very unfortunate that the deku pu and somehow combod with all might alpha dealing a lot of damage to me

but was it the right play to try gamma out and escape?

that all might was kind of locked onto me

btw the deku and all might weren't on the same team

[hot moss]

In that small zone nowhere would've been truly safe tbh, but imo you maybe could've tried to air tech onto the roof of that little building you died next to as soon as you recovered from getting knocked down.
You gamma'ed away in a straight line which you always want to try and avoid doing when escaping.
It left you an easy target for the All Might to hit, and even with the gamma armor you saw how well that helped.

Not saying you would've been safe even if you did get onto the rooftop, but there would've been a chance at least, even if you went up there then quickly dipped to the sheltered part underneath. It didn't look like anybody was there

[tired moth]

but i thought trying to air tech would make me a much easier target to shoot at for the All Might cause it is slower then trying to escape with gamma no? Especially if you're talking about forward jumping sa, which i also don't think would have got me that close to the top of the roof as it doesn't give too much distance . Yeah i don't know why i travelled in a straight line with my gamma. I think i just wanted to make it to cover with my gamma instead of wasting distance by doing a few zig zags, cause i also didn't think the All Might would continue hunting me considerding the small circle and number of teams so i thought he'd have other priorities. Also what do you mean by the gamma armour? Are you talking about how when shiggy uses the gamma he gets superarmour meaning he doesn't flinch / get knockback out of the gamma from other attacks? Would the all might alpha have hard knocked me down normally if i didn't gamma? But yeah i think trying to make it onto the roof would have been a better play, i just didn't expect the all might to chase me and for his alpha to reach me and hit me accurately.

[hot moss]

That's definitely a possibility. I think if it was me I would've dodge rolled while keeping my eye on All Might, slowly rolling towards the building while trying to avoid his alphas. Then if he tries to beta me I'd avoid it and take that opportunity to air tech to the roof while All Might was in his beta endlag animation and I'd be close enough by then to have the right distance.
But that's just me, I have a habit of keeping my camera focused on whoever is currently pursuing me as I try to escape so I can see what they do at all times and evade better.
Not sure about the Deku though but it looked like maybe he didn't want to pursue after popping PU.

And with the armor I meant the reduced damage didn't do much to save you unfortunately. 3 hits was all the All Might needed to land when you were on flesh. Dude just obliterates hp

[tired moth]

Ohh is that what you meant. Yeah i think rolling would have been a good idea before trying to air sa, that makes more sense. But yeah if you check the clip once i got up , saw the deku run away and i also saw the all might for a glimpse who i saw for a split second was on the other end of the bus and wasn't even looking at me, so i thought i was safe to escape, but i didn't expect him to still pursue me and for his alphas to still reach me at that range when i was using my gamma. Especially considering the circumstances of this last circle as well with high pressure but they still chose to focus me. Also AM alpha is just a pain to try evade and yet it still does a lot of damage.

ALSO: idk if i'm wrong or if your wrong. But about the armour from the shiggy gamma. I don't actually think it gives you damage reduction. Cause i tested it in Training with the bots but it just looks like you still get the same damage whether your doing gamma or not. But then again Training is buggy, so amybe in the actual game it does give you damage reduction. Do you actually know? I know his gamma does give superarmour though.

Also yes AM alpha is digusting, what is the best way to evade it as shiggy? Rolling? Gamma? Air alpha? Air SA?

[stiff lark]

I have a question does shiggy have a entirely green
Skin? 💚

[hot moss]

Yeah I'm not sure why he was focused on you but then Shiggy being Shiggy is often seen as the "easiest" target. Or the biggest threat in the small circle, 2 reasons people will tend to focus him.

And it does reduce damage, but yeah Training is buggy so I'm not surprised it doesn't work there lol
For example I often use gamma against Hawks beta and the damage I take from the trade-off is notably lessened compared to if I got smacked by the bird beta normally. It's not crazy reduction though.
And people with strong attack tuning can make it seem like the armor does nothing at all.

And usually I use sideways air alpha to dodge his alphas, though rolling left and right works too if their aim isn't too great. Unless I'm feeling risky and have plenty of health, then I gamma through the alpha barrage to grab him pff

[hot moss]

Entirely green?
Of what outfit?

I know he has a green default outfit but not entirely just the coat

I call people wearing it "Tree Shiggy" hehe

[tired moth]

Is it alright to air melee after getting hard knockdown? I always do it. Whenever someone hard knockdowns me , even when they get me really low I like to air melee right after I recover , as I’m pretty sure you get better tracking and are more likely to land you air melee after fast recovering, it’s also a lot quicker. And sometimes can even land a full melee combo after the air melee , which just gives more pressure on my opponent so that they may back off. But it might just be luck that I always land the air melee after I fast recover .

[hot moss]

That's definitely very risky if you're really low lol
Though if you're okay on health its not a bad shout. I've been working on melee incorporation so I've been doing the same more often lately, can definitely throw people off

I just wouldn't recommend doing it against characters that can easily catch your wakeup

[stiff lark]

I,m thinking of making a tiktok vid abt this but with gameplay

[hot moss]

Oh pff
Nah I'm 99% sure he doesn't have any fully green outfits

[stiff lark]

Maybe not fully green but something close to it without having to mod it

[tired moth]

Yh but I actually do it more often when I am low health 🤣, idk why but I guess it does throw off the player as they won’t see it coming and it does almost even the playing field. I’ll show some clips later of me doing it . But it’s kinda annoying cause I do the combo but they just fast recover and like alpha me and I did even though the combo was supposed to also put some distance between us 😭, I’ll show you what I mean later

[hot moss]

Please do I'd like to see the clips lol
What if the enemy is just out of air melee range?

[hot moss]

Yeah the default outfit one is the closest he has

[stiff lark]

Ig I'll have to make due 🫡

[hot moss]

Dear comrades:

❤️

[tired moth]

i thought i had more clips 😭 but at the end of this one you can kind of see me do it. I'm not sure if it was a hard knockdown but when i got up i just quickly meleed my opponent

btw my opponent was using a custom mod they made, it was their customs so it was allowed

[flint girder]

You shouldn’t post this

[tired moth]

why not

[flint girder]

Discussing and posting about mods is against the game’s ToS and the server’s rules

[tired moth]

ahhhh

okay

[flint girder]

I don’t think it should matter but just in case

[hot moss]

:(

[stiff lark]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMSdh5aPY/

[hot moss]

@jagged flame
1 hour and you haven't sent the new Galaxy vid? Smh

[jagged flame]

I just woke up lol

[dark stump]

it's a short vid tbf, REDACTED usually sends his longer vids

[jagged flame]

https://youtu.be/BjQpQL6fSQ8?si=Htz7B3f-qfv32oCJ

I do have a life outside of discord and stuff

[hot moss]

Naaaaahhhhh

[stiff lark]

@everyone i was wondering if i should make a youtube channel so i can make an assault shiggy guide(my first youtube vid idk how to edit) or make multiple guides on tiktok (which i am intermediate at editing there).

[hot moss]

Whichever sounds like it'd be easiest for you, which seems like that would be Tiktok

[stiff lark]

i,m thinking the guide is going to be around 8-18 mins long because i,m doing a beginners guide, and personal guide in the video going in depth with his combo's, lvl path, tech that I only know and more.

[hot moss]

Fair enough. Sounds like fun
Also tech that only you know? Ya sure?

[acoustic dove]

strike shigaraki players when I space hop

[stiff lark]

by the way another tech i was being able to use space hop vertically, i did it on accident and the input frame to do it is very little but in return you get a forward floaty jump

[hot moss]

Me as the Strike Shiggy with Space Hop

[hot moss]

Yeah I've had that happen a couple times too on accident.
Haven't been able to make it consistent on my end but it's neat

[stiff lark]

I tried to do it and it was a combination of me running immediatelty stopping and neutral jumping mid stop for a bit of vertical it's so inconsistent

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/saturday-shigaraki-my-hero-academia-mha-gif-2815349654891493537

[hot moss]

We should have Tomura Tuesdays too.
For no reason other than more days to praise our man ☕

[hot moss]

Noice

[jagged flame]

Idk why he kept rolling

[hot moss]

Cuz rolling is fun :)

[subtle minnow]

They see me rolling-

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/u8zkz5

Such a wonderful idea chasing me into a building

[indigo scarab]

Respect to Strike Shiggy players. No way I can perform all that movement but he's fun for sure

[hot moss]

La narrow escape

That was the only Assault Shig I saw in any of the matches I played today lol. He would've got me if I wasn't quick at making sure my flip landed me back on the roof so I didn't drop down when he gamma'ed.

[jagged flame]

Neat

I don't have Assault Ochaco

[dark stump]

Currently at 90 Assault Ochaco data, I will hopefully join the Space Hop train soon 🙏

[hot moss]

Definitely makes survivability a lot better

Many of my matches I end up being the last to go down if at all since getting it

Out of my team that is

[indigo scarab]

Outta curiosity how effective is space hop / spiraling leap on Strike Shiggy?
I'm not much for movement when I do play him

[acoustic dove]

you can use it to destroy Assaultcos floating platform

[hot moss]

You can't destroy her platform
But you can get onto it

Oops

Didn't mean to reply to thay

*that

[dark stump]

Space Hop makes you jump high enough to reach Assault Ochako's platform yeah, it's good

Spiral Leap makes all of your jumps a bit higher and more floaty, the blackflip you do with Air Alpha also goes higher with it too

[acoustic dove]

weird, I guess this was just coincidence lmao

[dark stump]

I would say it's up to preference, but the fact that you can go high enough to actually fight an Assault Ochako with Space Hop and not Spiral Leap leads me to believe Space Hop is better, at least for now.

[dark stump]

It isn't coincidence, you can break it
But only if you do Special Action at the top or edge of the platform, not below it

[indigo scarab]

I canon it as Shigaraki performing a SMB2 power jump to reach that platform

[jagged flame]

Spiral Leap isn't ideal for Strike Shiggy

[acoustic dove]

I thought so but the other guy said it wasn’t possible

[hot moss]

Ohhh

[jagged flame]

I wouldn't want a floaty jump all the time

[hot moss]

I was told it wasn't lol

[indigo scarab]

But that's interesting to know as an option for an alt set for him if I had more PUR outfits

[hot moss]

Yeah it'd be more of a hindrance half the time and you'd be very easy to snipe

[dark stump]

Same here, I love with Space Hop that you can control which jumps are floaty and which aren't
I do think though that if you prefer Spiral Leap you should use it, you just have to use alpha whenever you want to touch the ground faster I guess

Another huge downside to Spiral Leap is that there are no PUR costumes in the game that let you use Wall Run and Spiral Leap

[jagged flame]

Just got an idea for another character

[acoustic dove]

you’re telling me there’s not ONE ?

[hot moss]

No, they all have villain only in one or the other slot

[dark stump]

There is one...that is a 1 star

[acoustic dove]

a sad day for shiggy mains

[hot moss]

One day there'll be a PUR that can run both hero slots for purple and blue. One day.

[dark stump]

As I said before, Space Hop is objectively better right now imo so it's not bad, just sucks for those who don't have Assault Ochaco 😔

[acoustic dove]

I saved up 100 data lmao

[dark stump]

Lucky you 😠

I grinded for tens of hours, but I'm at 90 data right now so hopefully soon I'll be able to use it 😔

[hot moss]

I still sometimes switch off the Space Hop build.
I don't like how too easy it is to rely on and I don't want to use it as a crutch all the time.

[jagged flame]

I have 175 data

But I can't build anything rn

[acoustic dove]

unfortunately the character I put it on has to rely on it because he’s completely trash without it 😞

[dark stump]

eh I'll abuse the heck out of it

I can finally touch the Rapidgos 🥹

[hot moss]

Even without Space Hop Rapidgo is easier to deal with nowadays

[jagged flame]

Yall think Overhaul will be on the character ticket next season?
I don't have him and I have his PUR costume which is unfortunate

[dark stump]

No

[hot moss]

Wishful thinking

[dark stump]

He was supposed to be on character ticket since Present Mic came out

[jagged flame]

That sucks

[hot moss]

They stopped because of Tuning introduction

[jagged flame]

Were yall on this game since day one?

[hot moss]

Yep

[jagged flame]

I was playing since the beta

[dark stump]

Actually scratch that, he was supposed to be out when Kurogiri came out

[hot moss]

Beta was a lot different back in ye olden days

300hp Iida isn't missed tho

[dark stump]

The first time I played the game was in the final hours of the Beta

[jagged flame]

I kinda miss the cave on the first map

The mountain zone

[hot moss]

Same
It was funny how often people got stuck there because of the zone hehe

[dark stump]

Yeah too many games just ended being heal offs

Though the same thing happens when the final zone is in UA

[hot moss]

Shhh they don't need to change UA

[acoustic dove]

wtflip

[jagged flame]

Yeah Iida used to have 300hp

[acoustic dove]

ew

[jagged flame]

Froppy had wallrun in the beta

[dark stump]

yep

[hot moss]

Shiggy with 1 gamma and a dream...
Still mained him tho

[dark stump]

And Shoto's Special Action was a flamthrower instead of...whatever it is now

[acoustic dove]

wasn’t the flamethrower also pretty bad

[dark stump]

yeah

7 damage per tick 😭

[acoustic dove]

that is insane

circle 1 storm outdamages that

[jagged flame]

Deku's gamma had 2 variations

[hot moss]

I remember that too

Slapping people about with blackwhip

[dark stump]

I miss that 😔

[hot moss]

I don't
They basically gave it to Shinso but more annoying

[acoustic dove]

I miss that too… (I am not a beta player)

[dark stump]

Basically a couple of barrels would spawn out of thin air which Deku would automatically grab and wave around wildly

[acoustic dove]

nvm I don’t think I’d miss that

[dark stump]

I never encountered it myself but it looks very silly

[acoustic dove]

200 per barrel

[hot moss]

Fighting with barrels is a nice change from fighting with rocks.
The devs love to give characters rock throwing moves for whatever reason

[acoustic dove]

Kendo

[hot moss]

Literally

[dark stump]

Assault Ochaco does more

[acoustic dove]

tell me about it

having to retreat from 2 hits is insane 💔

[hot moss]

And yet she honestly sucks in a 1v1

[jagged flame]

Wouldn't say she sucks in a 1v1

Gotta have a brain but her damage is just

Atrocious

[dark stump]

Assault Ochaco in a 1v1 is just a stalemate

[hot moss]

All of her moves are easy to dodge when you can focus solely on what she's doing, but yeah the damage ain't right.

[acoustic dove]

imo the only set that sucks in a 1v1 is denki because his character was built to third party for some reason

[dark stump]

Her cooldowns are so fast that every second she can be doing a move if you have good cooldown management skills

but in a 1v1 you aren't hitting any of them against someone who knows how to dodge them

[jagged flame]

He's different from the other skill sets

[acoustic dove]

in the sense of balance yea

[jagged flame]

Beta having a 5 second cooldown on every level is not balanced

What other character or skill set has that?

[dark stump]

Strike Dabi Gamma

[acoustic dove]

strike dabi comes back before the ending animation is even done and I find that so stupid

[hot moss]

That thing doesn't even have a cooldown Istg

[acoustic dove]

it might as well not even have one

first 0 CD move

[hot moss]

Ibara gamma

If missed

[acoustic dove]

well yea but that doesn’t take the charge so idk if that counts

[dark stump]

Even if it hits, the cooldown at Level 9 is basically nonexistent

it comes back when they get back up

[acoustic dove]

thats awesome.

[jagged flame]

Ibara can one shot Mirio with her max level gamma

[dark stump]

She can one-shot 250HP characters with TUNING as well 🤫

[hot moss]

So can I with my condescending stare

[acoustic dove]

im pretty sure she can 1 shot every character

[hot moss]

Not even 4

[dark stump]

*2 shot

[acoustic dove]

1 shot

oops

@clever hazel I know you weren’t expecting a ping in the shiggy channel but how much does your gamma build do

[jagged flame]

Ibara with tuning and embrittlement can possibly one shot 400hp characters with her gamma

[dark stump]

with PU intesified, Embrittlement, Double Strike cards, Double Strike teammates, yeah maybe

[hot moss]

I love that name

I'll never understand why her gamma does so much

[acoustic dove]

probably because you have to be extremely close for her to even use it

[hot moss]

Which isn't hard for skilled Ibara mains

[dark stump]

and she's extremely vulnerable which doing it

[jagged flame]

They buffed her gamma twice in earlier seasons if I remember correctly

All her moves leave her stationary so I guess she needs it

[acoustic dove]

thats why she has 400 HP

[hot moss]

Still, with barely any cooldown that seems like the trade off for vulnerability and poor range, not the damage being too much

[jagged flame]

Tuning needs to be reworked

[acoustic dove]

before tuning balancing was so much easier

now nerfs can just be undid because of it

[dark stump]

for sure, the main 3 shouldn't be doing their Season 1 damage again 😭

the 100 damage alphas HURT

[acoustic dove]

my red todo alpha does 100 lmao

[jagged flame]

They buffed Kendo's gamma with a hard knockdown because of tuning

[acoustic dove]

and Denki should be part of the main three , my alphas do 120

[jagged flame]

Kendo literally has the best armor move in the game

[acoustic dove]

the 200+ gamma coming your way

[hot moss]

Despite Space Hop and Wall Run being fun I would LOVE to go back to the days of no Tuning whatsoever.
Because back then I never felt like I even needed to fly away to avoid getting 2-shot by a random alpha from somewhere

[jagged flame]

Tuning made the game more interesting but there's always going to be a "meta"

Remember sisterly

[clever hazel]

a gamma builded ibara with embrittle and maybe 1 strike card can down a 400hp char yea

[hot moss]

More interesting but doesn't belong in a BR. It's always been such an out-of-place mechanic.

[clever hazel]

nope, just the normal ibara with full gamma dmg up and hp dmg up and embrittle can down a 400hp

[jagged flame]

I understand

[hot moss]

Devs make balancing that much harder on themselves too because of it

[clever hazel]

yep as long u hit for180+

[dark stump]

oh you're right, just did the calculations
tho it would have to be with either 2 Strike cards or 2 Strike teammates

[clever hazel]

nope, without strike 1 strike card is enough

and maybe if the enemy has hp defense and gamma defense, 2 strike cards

[dark stump]

oh yeah you're probably right, I think I calculated it wrong

[dark stump]

just be in a double Strike team and you're set ig

[clever hazel]

mine does 320 with embrittle, and im full alpha builded with double hp dmg boost

[dark stump]

Full Alpha build and one-shotting 250HP characters 🥶

I never want to fight that Ibara

[hot moss]

You better praise her then

[jagged flame]

Praise Ibara

[clever hazel]

Ofc yall should praise gothbara

[indigo scarab]

I've seen great success with this set, but I'm just curious if it's a good Strike Shiggy set
Is it better to cover his weaknesses with perks like wall runner or something along those lines?

[tight willow]

Jeez I’m having a hard time finding tips for yellow

Is there another chat for em?

[acoustic dove]

no this chat is for both

[tight willow]

Lastly what’s his best skill for damage

I’m cooking up in tuning screen

[stiff lark]

his best skill is gamma, and if you need any tips just ask me

[jagged flame]

https://youtu.be/xZ4_9WBQ_Eo?si=8_lkQeuO77aGAlrx

[hot moss]

Only 11? Bro fell off

Fr tho
Hope he's feeling better

[west hedge]

He good now since we dont lose are lvl up

😂💀

Red

[hot moss]

He was good anyway lol
I don't agree with the revive system. It sounds like heaven for Shig mains but it's not a good idea in general.

[flint girder]

Yeah, I mean I’m happy to be back at full level but balance wise it’s bad

[hot moss]

Getting back half levels would've been okay imo

[jagged flame]

I'm dealing less damage with my builds

Seems like you can't stack tunings for more damage anymore

[hot moss]

No they nerfed it

[marble spruce]

they nerfed it in anticipation of monomas tuning being absurd im pretty sure

since that gives a 2.1x multiplier at max level to any tuning in its column

[jagged flame]

I'm holding shiggy's gamma but it immediately stops

Is anyone else experiencing this

Just happened in a match

[hot moss]

Haven't played any actual matches but didn't happen in Training so idk

[tired moth]

new season ,same old me

[jaunty dragon]

it hurts

[marble spruce]

i love the funny numbers on my screen character

[dark stump]

OH THANK GOD I THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY

[jagged flame]

So it happened to you also

[dark stump]

I thought my controller broke I was scared 😭

Yeah

For one custom game

[jagged flame]

This game always get new bugs every season

[dark stump]

It would immediately stop even when I hold it, this kept happening for a minute until it switched back to normal

[tired moth]

yh same

but i upgraded it and was working fine the rest of the game

[hot moss]

Yeah had it happen today lol

[jagged flame]

Honestly

I'm dropping Shiggy until it gets fixed

I don't wanna risk this happening to me in matches

Or not

[tired moth]

LETS GOOOOO

FINALLYY

I CAN ACTUALLY GET A PUR SKIN

BUT WHY IS IT CRYSTALS 😭😭😭😭😭😭

CRYSTALS ARE SO HARD TO GET

WHY COULDNT IT HAVE BEEN TIX 😡😡😡😡

[marble spruce]

thank god

i need anything for my boy

[jagged flame]

I don't spend money on this game

Saving crystals for skill sets

[tired moth]

No

you dont understand

i dont want any character

any skillset

I JUST WANT A SHIGGY PUR SKIN

so i can finally use the tuning builds i want

but ofc i got to spend money on the game 😡

I SWTG IF I DONT GET A SKIN EVEN AFTER THIS GACHA

IM QUITTING THE GAME

[jagged flame]

Good luck

I already have 2 builds for Shiggy

Won't be making any other builds for him for awhile

[hot moss]

Same

[tired moth]

luckyy

AHH I HONESTLY DONT MIND GETTING ANY OF THOSE 3 SKINS

im so glad the knight skin isnt there

cause he doesnt have the tuning i want nor looks good

[jagged flame]

I don't have his awakened and suit outfit

Whatever it's called

[tired moth]

the awakend doesnt have the tuning i want but looks the best imo

and the other 2 skins do have the tuning i want

[tired moth]

league of villains i think

[jagged flame]

I do use his evil knight fancy outfit

I made it because of the damage but this season damage tuning got nerfed

[hot moss]

Yeah it doesn't feel great to just be tickling people with max alphas ngl

But eh
Never cared for damage output much

[dark stump]

Yeah I see a lot of people max Alpha first for that 124 damage they have with their build, which is valid
But I always found getting Alpha 4 then maxing Beta more valuable for me

[jagged flame]

Used to deal 132 with this build

[dark stump]

132 on HP

[jagged flame]

Yep

Not anymore sadly

[dark stump]

You'll still get like 120+ damage on HP now

It's still good

[jagged flame]

I'll remove gp atk

Replace with beta atk

[dark stump]

Why not Gamma atk?

[jagged flame]

I have both hp atk power

And I have 1 gamma atk power

[dark stump]

true, but I don't really see a point in getting 1 extra damage from Beta

[jagged flame]

Maybe I'll just leave it

Wouldn't make much of a difference stacking

[celest heart]

got any shigi combos?

[hot moss]

For which?

[celest heart]

yellow

[hot moss]

Ah, yeah there's a good few but I'll leave that up to the Yellow mains to answer

[celest heart]

k

[stiff lark]

I got one for ya it includes a tech only I know and use

[stiff lark]

It includes gamma on health,them being a good distance of the ground beta then SA this video will act as an example

[hot moss]

You really adamant about that huh?

[stiff lark]

1/2 techs I personally use

[dark stump]

Air Special Action?

[hot moss]

It's cool if ya use it but it's not one that only you use
That's a pretty bold claim

[stiff lark]

Have you seen another person do it before, and did you not now that was a thing till know

[dark stump]

🫥

[hot moss]

I've seen other people do it and have done it myself and I don't even play Assault-

If you're referring to the whole thing, that is

If you're just referring to air tech then
Yes... very much so

[dark stump]

Off the top of my head I know at least 5 people who do it

If you're talking about using it offensively

[stiff lark]

Well I guess that's 1/1 now

[hot moss]

😔

[dark stump]

What's the other one?

Rolling/Melee to cancel Beta endlag?
Gamma --> Special Action true combo?

[hot moss]

Way to not sound mocking

[stiff lark]

A few seasons I was lambing some combos amd found on health and on shield if you land in front of someone with gamma you can melee which leads to different combos

[hot moss]

Which is also known...

[dark stump]

oh nice, yeah I never saw someone do that before

[hot moss]

Really?

[stiff lark]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMSYeH123/

I posted some clips with it

[jagged flame]

Assault shiggy isn't strike shiggy

[hot moss]

Wdym?

[stiff lark]

Well yeah

[obsidian ember]

Anyone know any good red shiggy tuning?

[jagged flame]

When I use assault shiggy, it feels like it's a different character

I don't have much fun using him

Strike shiggy wants to destroy everything

[hot moss]

Ohhh yeah lol

[hot moss]

Wall Runner
Trance Blow
Space Hop
Revenge Rapid
Fixer (probably)
Card Dupe
Whatever suits your playstyle

[obsidian ember]

Is there any specific outfit I should try to get?

[jagged flame]

Awakened (Heat)

[hot moss]

Just any PUR really

[jagged flame]

Except his Evil Knight outfit imo

[hot moss]

That one looks cool tho

[jagged flame]

Looks are deceiving when they don't have great tuning slots

I always use his Evil Knight outfit

The pink color

It's most likely me if you see it in a match

[hot moss]

True
Default disguise coat has bad tuning but I still wear it with the Dangerous variant's tuning

[lapis elk]

Man red shig is so fun

[cerulean rain]

Gamma 2 > beta has been known for a long while. It doesn't even require them to be in the air at all when hitting gamma 2 either if you buffer beta properly. Sometimes it'll even work on GP just because it feels like it. You can also do gamma 2 > special action on hp. Also gamma 2 > gamma is possible on hp. All of this is stuff that's been known and good assault shigs have been doing this stuff since like season 5. Same with gamma 2 > melee and beta lag cancelling with melee, those have been known. Beta just acts weird with melee hits making beta > melee not worth doing since it messes with the combo meter more than it should by adding more to it that it's supposed to. And gamma 2 > melee is just situational. Most of us just either don't play the game anymore or barely play assault shig at this point.

[tight willow]

I don’t know man this combo is not even available for me to do they go grey after I do the second part of gamma

Or white for that matter - invincibility frames

[wooden crystal]

What’s a good build for the cyber punk shigaraki for red

[tired moth]

I finally got the first build i ever wanted

This was back before i didnt know space hop was coming out

and i finally got enough data to get the nejire special tuning spiralling elap

But im a little disappointed

I thought the vertical jump would atleast be a little higher then normal

but it just feels the same as normal

and it doesn't work for wall jumps either

it only works for forward jumps which is a shame

apart it does let me do stuff i couldnt do before

like further distance beta jumps

and get onto places i couldnt before

like on the bridge to water zone

correction, you do get extra vertial height with the jump

but its quite minoscule and i think its the same if you were to do a forward jump

i also found a discovered a fun shiggy tech

but im not sure if it works in an actual game

But a big downsight of this tuning is that you are very floaty

which aint good for shiggy

especialy when doing air alpha

[jagged flame]

Spiral Leap is significantly higher

[frigid belfry]

Why does my gamma suddenly cancel?

Or doesn't work

[tired moth]

yh thats a bug

anthoer bug

[frigid belfry]

Okie

[tired moth]

for some reason this update has many bugs with shiggy gamma

[frigid belfry]

Always been

[tired moth]

but for the first bug i tried upgrading my gamma with a level up card and it started working

[frigid belfry]

I thought i had skill issue but ig it was just a bug

So i should upgrade gamma to make it work?

[tired moth]

mb i hopped in a game

yh i'm pretty sure the bug fixes when you upgrade gamma with the level up card

only gotta do it once

but i dont get the bug anymore

but i do get the other bug where i gamma a person but it doesnt actually grab them and it just hits them like a melee

but ive been getting it more often since this update

[jagged flame]

There's another bug with his gamma

When you grab someone the person will keep running

Like you never grabbed them at all

[hot moss]

Haven't had that one yet

[marble spruce]

ive had the short gamma one happen to me a few times

i thought i was going crazy, "i dont remember it traveling such a short distance" lmao

[wooden crystal]

What’s a good build for yellow shigaraki if I don’t have any PUR skins

[timber cedar]

Bro wtf I have literally got that the whole game just now

I’m holding it down and it cancels like I only pressed it

[tired moth]

is it just me or has it become more difficult to tell if a Mirio is in permeation state or not? And since when could he just turn it on and off whenever he likes with no penalty. And why did they make every ability of his kit make him the greatest escape artist better then thee actual escape artists compress??? Like his alphas = escape, beta = escape, gamma = get off me, special action = u cant touch me, sa telport = escape, like bro is legit untouchable from shiggy

[jagged flame]

That's his thing

He's annoying like Shiggy said in the anime lol

He's not untouchable from Shiggy though

[tired moth]

how do u touch him then?

Ik u can time sa when he comes out of beta

but apart from that theres no other way to tocu him

cause i f u try gamma him

he just uses permeation sa

same with if you try beta him

and yo ucant really hit him with alpha cause its like the character just floats after his alpha

like when mirio uses his alpha hes not touching the ground

[jagged flame]

Mirio's entire kit has long reload cooldown

Though if they disengage there's nothing you can do

It's not an unwinnable matchup

[tired moth]

But yh they're probably long gone if they're on cooldown

[regal crystal]

is shigaraki assasult class strong?

[hot moss]

I gamma against their alpha.
It staggers them and then I can follow up with a melee string/another gamma.
Not the most reliable and does still damage you in turn but it works.

Also his gamma I just walk into and start beating him up lol
Usually I place a beta down first and then do it so when I start meleeing and his shield drops he'll take beta damage too.

Though I've also found that timed gamma dashes can bypass the shield and you won't get stopped. But it's pretty iffy with the timing you kinda have to make sure you enter the shield at the very end of the dash animation. Like when Shiggy's hand lets go of the floor. I only do that against the more aware Mirios that aren't gonna keep their shield up for very long so you can walk through.

[hot moss]

He is, he's just pretty overshadowed rn

[regal crystal]

oh cool

whats the best way to get his skins because i want awakened so much

[hot moss]

Unfortunately the only way to get them is through random chance in the gacha, but if you save up your tickets and his Awakened skin comes onto the featured costume banner you can pour your tickets into there for a higher chance of getting it.

If you obtain 100 roll points during that banner though and still haven't gotten the costume you can pity for it and trade the 100 roll points for it guaranteed

[regal crystal]

would they return the awakened skin in the roll??

[hot moss]

The skin will always be available and every so often will make its rounds at being featured.

Either alongside other Shiggy costumes or alongside his Assault Skillset in the skillset gacha.

[tired moth]

😈

UR IN LUCK MY FRIEND

[tired moth]

or have u forgotten

😈😈😈

THE END IS NEAR

😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

But unfortunately its the costume gacha meaning you have to spend hero crystals not tickets 💩

Meaning if u wanna pity you gotta acumulate 100k crystals