Tomura Shigaraki

[balmy hawk]

Any of the PU ones are playable, Kota Finder if you feel ambitious.

Anti stun is mildly fine given the prevalence of tech Denki rn.

Most red special tunings are bad.

But definitely awakened heat is a banger skin. Wall Runner + Kota is what I run.

[lapis elk]

I’d love the run bakugo or endeavor but like I feel like you want their normal tunings given it’s hp attack power and A attack power both are probably really dangerous for red shig

[hot moss]

Depends on how you like to play him, their regular Tunings are definitely helpful but their Special Tunings are good for heavily aggressive playstyles

[subtle fog]

Main antagonist unlocked

It’s so refreshing to just use red shiggy

I’m still learning yellow shiggy but ya this is nice lol

[drifting quarry]

Been using shiggy since season 1 left him for a while because i was playing overhaul a lot but i wanted to ask how does the special action super jump work?

[hot moss]

Just jump and use the Special Action in the air while looking up. With 2 Special charges he can do both in the air now

[drifting quarry]

Oh neat

[balmy hawk]

that's not a guide for the **super **jump at all lol. That's just basic how to use his Special Action.

Controls are specific to PC & keyboard vs controller. I do not know how to do it on controller.

For PC/Keyboard, for maximum height you need to kill all momentum EXCEPT for vertical, as it's carries all momentum across both axes (horizontal/vertical) and splits it evenly.

So the step by step for maximum height vertical is to stop moving, jump, look up, and as you press Special Action, press W / forward.

All that being said, now that he has two, this tech is nearly irrelevant.

[hot moss]

I know that, I just didn't know it had an actual name to it lol

I was just giving basic because otherwise it comes off as confusing to people picking him up again after so long/for the first time to go into that much depth

Which yeah as you said is nearly irrelevant now anyway

[tiny pier]

Any good combos that are like a must know with red shigi

[hot moss]

He's not much of a combo character and most of the few he has aren't true tbf, but if you can land melees on someone you can do melee 4 times (resetting animation between each) then go into gamma or Special.
That's the most simple combo that you're likely to pull off in an actual match the most if you're going for a combo.

Others you can do but aren't true, are ones like
•melee x4, gamma, Special
•beta, melees, alpha, gamma, Special
•beta, melees
•melee x4, alpha

Basically they all depend on using melee lol
But remember more than 5 melees is a knockdown so go for 4 at most before following up with whatever you choose to.

[balmy hawk]

M1/2, 1, 1, alpha gamma is not true but the window for reaction is incredibly slim

also, if they have NO knockdown value prior to your grab, your special can combo out of it. But the odds of that are slim and unreliable. If you have 2 in the bank, worth throwing it out. If you don't, save it.

[hot moss]

Indeedy

[tiny pier]

What about like any must know tips or techs with him

He's so fun to play

[hot moss]

If you use beta always gamma cancel if you have a charge so you're not stuck vulnerable in the animation.
If you jump beta and press gamma just as you hit the ground you can cancel the beta from coming out entirely which not only throws people off but can just be good to aid in escape or traversal without giving away your position.

If you have aim assist turned on its better to turn it off with him as he's a character where you need to aim where the enemy is heading, not where they are.
Though it's not mandatory to do that, just makes it a little better.

Never stand still when throwing down alphas, move and jump around the battlefield as you do to make yourself harder to hit as your alphas are very obvious and can make people spot you very quickly.
You can also jump alpha left and right before quickly aiming back at the enemy as you hit the ground, this makes your bakflip work as a dodge move as well as an attack.

If you try to lockdown a building make sure your beta at the very least is high enough levelled and don't try to keep the place locked down if a notably bigger team of indoor dominant characters comes along (i.e - Tech Shoto, Overhaul, and AFO)
Know when to relocate.

If out in the open fight along the edges of battle, don't get caught in the middle of the crossfire if you can help it, repositioning constantly and only really dipping in to apply pressure on people with a beta then backing out to the edges again. (That's if there's like a lot of people in one area)

And obviously the general movement tech which is using air specials to get around, paired with alpha backflip for that little bit of extra height also goes well but takes some practice to get the hang of due to specific camera movement.
Using air special in combat is also useful to either avoid the attacks of other grounded characters or if you predict your enemy landing it on someone as they try to take to the air/air stall.
You can also catch their wakeup if they get knocked down but again, that takes some prediction.

[long python]

support shiggy tuning if yalls dont know about it. very consistent

[long python]

end of game might look like this after

[hot moss]

Divine Protection is a little more ideal with Quasi-Permeation alongside it, unless you don't box spwn right off the bat and instead go for boxes as they land throughout the match, in which case just Divine Protection is fine.
W build 👍

[long python]

U got teamates they should have a shield skill of a sort

Just tell them your support shiggy

Quasi kind of nasty due to can only be used once

[hot moss]

That's heavily dependent on having teammates that care ngl lol
But with friends that could work

And true tbf

[long python]

And they can just stand on top of box and still loot for free after you unlock box

That's what I do 👁️ 👁️

[long python]

Pple got to learn it a team game eventually

[hot moss]

Diabolical lol

[hot moss]

Unfortunately many won't.
Even now some top players still don't care about their team and play like they're the only one that matters at all.

[long python]

They gonna learn when they can't kill an enemy 😈

[hot moss]

Real tho

[long python]

It's solid tho btw I stream daily if you tryna see live gameplay of it

And there youthbe video on it

[hot moss]

I'm usually not able to catch streams but I don't deny a Support build seems good like that.
And for him opening the boxes to get more levels quickly is always a boon.

[long python]

Theres a better costume but I got the free basic one if you have the better one you can get alot of levels for sure

The big bag is priority 1 then get civilians

If you have a crashout momo in team ask them for bag instead

Then you switch to a diffrent build

[hot moss]

A crashout Momo lol

[jagged flame]

Can't do peak movement on console

https://youtu.be/K69HSEq-3y4?si=xXcCrQmZ1UJey4R5

[hot moss]

Why not?

[jagged flame]

Well firstly I enjoy not wreaking my fingers

And even if I cranked up the sensitivity to the max

I won't be able to do this

[hot moss]

Huh
I don't have an issue with it, I only did for a while due to input lag on my old controller.
Though on Chaos City specifically I can't do peak movement without the game blowing up because it's poorly optimised.

That being said not wanting to wreak your fingers is entirely valid lmao

[jagged verge]

is gamma specia/melee true when they are againts wall?

[hot moss]

Doesn't sound like it would be

Depends on how they're thrown I think

[cobalt thicket]

THIS SHI SO FIRE

Can u do it on pc with controller?

[hot moss]

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to

Ngl the funniest thing here is watching whatever happened to my Dabi in the second clip

But still combo go brr!

[proud hearth]

Bro that one shigi must’ve thought you spared him

[hot moss]

Yeah Idky I was slow at reacting there
I was just like "Oh, a Shiggy.... OH, A SHIGGY!"

[jagged flame]

This was in ranked btw

[hot moss]

Friends!

[dark stump]

You can do it on any platform with controller, you just have to play on high sensitivity

[dark stump]

Oh no you can 100% do this on controller, I play with 400 horizontal sens and 300 vertical sens and do it easily , just takes a lot of getting used to, both the movement and aiming with high sens

[dark stump]

Gamma --> Melee1 is true against a wall
Gamma --> Special is only true sometimes and even then it's if they don't mash air tech

[hot moss]

Oh thank God I don't need to feel like an idiot for having 400

[dark stump]

mine is actually more like 450 but that's just preference really, 400 is more than enough

[hot moss]

Yeah my console would die if I tried to bump it up more.
Luckily I have no reason to

[final saffron]

Ilda new skillset is looking crazy

[proud hearth]

Everything that my hands touch shall be destroyed!

[jagged flame]

Hmm

I literally don't see assault shiggy in matches

[hot moss]

Me neither tbh
When I do it's like 1 every 4 matches and they don't even make it to final circle

[final saffron]

I hate autocorrect

But question does anyone know strike shiggy numbers for his sa defense drop rate?

[dark stump]

Drop rate? Sorry I don't get what you mean

[final saffron]

How much defense does it reduce

[hot moss]

Isn't it 20%?

Actually I haven't tested myself yet but does landing both Specials stack the reduction amount or nah?

[balmy hawk]

no, but it stacks with other people's embrittlement effects

so if two shiggies land it separately, or if someone has embrittlement tuning melee + your special, it stacks

[hot moss]

I see
Unfortunate for whoever winds up the victim in that scenario

[hot moss]

I usually like labbing things for myself, but I guess it's easier to just ask here sometimes.

I've been hopping into Training a lot but I just kept forgetting to check for any stacking effects of Defense Down since receiving the additional Special charge, so at least that checks one thing off the list now.

Knowing it does stack with a second party though is definitely something I'd have to bear in mind if I get paired up with someone running Embrittlement.

[dark stump]

20%

So an attack that does 100 damage, will do 120 damage to the one who has been attacked with Special Action beforehand

same goes for Embrittlement

[hot moss]

Omg I was right with something mathematical for once

[humble creek]

Does Strike Shigaraki have super armor on his Gamma? I've heard it does actually

[jagged flame]

Yes it does

[cerulean meteor]

Yes

It’s a good thing unless there’s 100 ppl shooting at you whilst you’re doing it

[hot moss]

Yeah but it can still be interrupted by other attacks sometimes.

For example he can't gamma against Strike Dabi's beta, and three shots from a Tech Shoto alpha will trip you out of gamma.

However while in the dash you are immune to getting frozen by Strike Shoto gamma and can negate getting stunned by either Denki gamma, even if his Special is active.
He can also armour through Overhaul gamma. It's just about working out which attacks will interrupt his armour and what won't.

[acoustic dove]

any move that forces knockdown interrupts it

[hot moss]

Because Shiggy is just better 🔪

[subtle fog]

lol is there anyway to make shiggy into an anti sisterly demon? esp with the cyper punk costumes?

i like using red but trying to learn yellow so want a tuning tht works for both

[hot moss]

Sisterly is always going to be awful for anyone to deal with.
I don't think there's really any "anti-sisterly" build.

Most tuning works for both really tho, just go for what you think would work for you.

[dark stump]

Overhaul Gamma doesn't force knockdown, I'm pretty sure a Kiri with special action would walk straight through it

[hot moss]

Okay now I want to see a Hardened Kiri literally just walk casually through an Overhaul gamma hehe

[jagged flame]

He gets knockdown after 2 gammas

[subtle fog]

dang thing needs to be nerfed lol but thanks for the info!

[hollow salmon]

@dark stump does the gamma cancel into melee work with red shiggy?

i just saw a video of that

[dark stump]

You have to hit it at the very edge of their character model.

It's easier to do with lag, but if you don't play on a laggy system and have good internet then it's actually impossible to do intentionally. I've tested multiple times in training mode even rn on PC and haven't gotten that to work that way once. Meanwhile when I go on my PS4 Slim I'm able to get it cuz Red Shiggy Beta makes the console lag a bit.
It's hard to do intentionally, and I never do it intentionally. Maybe console players can do it cuz their systems are laggier, but on PC it just happens and I adapt and capitalize off the situation cuz of how many times I encountered it.

[cerulean meteor]

Nerd

[dark stump]

hush

[cerulean meteor]

:((

[hot moss]

I've learnt how to do it often just from playing on Chaos City lol
The only good thing that comes from the lag

[hollow salmon]

oh okay thank you for clarifying

[stiff lark]

I wonder why assault shiggy is the only assault without wn armored move🤔

[jagged flame]

Doesn't need it

[jagged verge]

Buff shiggy special. The 20% increase dmg is applied like how armor is applied, so it's more like 16%

Same with his special tuning- 20% instead 25%

Actually I think it's even less

[hot moss]

I mean they buffed the actual damage of the Special so they did something there.

But because it's a Special the status percentage buff would apply to Assault too who really doesn't need that kind of buff.

[jagged verge]

😦

Gamma tick or throw isn't effective by gamma* tuning either.

So many mulit moves arnt it's kinda sad. Beamers stay winning

[hot moss]

Isn't gamma affected by general hp damage tuning though? just not gamma damage tuning specifically?

[jagged flame]

If only I had Present Mic for his tuning

[hot moss]

Do you not have Endeavor?

[jagged flame]

Yep

I use his tuning

[timid pecan]

What combos can I do with yellow shaggy and what should I lvl up first

[cerulean meteor]

Gamma beta gamma beta double melee then alpha/special action

[stiff lark]

Isn,t second beta hard knockdown?

[jagged flame]

Yep

[cerulean meteor]

It’s not

[stiff lark]

I thought u you were throwing the rock at them not the ground

[cerulean meteor]

You are throwing the rock at them

Video was a bad example cos I missed one of em LOL

But the combo works and there’s no hard knockdown from it (the betas)

[vapid fog]

I'm just forwarding this here

[dark stump]

I wonder how this works now that he has 2 special actions

[jagged flame]

Make strike shigaraki's alpha travel on air

[hot moss]

As cool as it is it's never really been worth doing that in a real match just because of how easily you can get shot out the sky. He moves at Nejire speed like that 😔

[hot moss]

Sometimes it does, what they should do is make it actively be able to hit people when that happens since it's just a visual bug rn

[vapid fog]

That would be complicated to implement

[jagged flame]

There's a bug with his beta

Sometimes the visual effect wouldn't be there and you'll still take damage

[vapid fog]

Definitely not for flying like that it'll be best for combos

[tardy flower]

lf red shiggy builds

[lapis elk]

I use the awakened heat

With wall runner and kota finder

[tardy flower]

Thanks for the response ❤️

[cerulean meteor]

Would highly recommend against using kota finder with lvl 111 shiggy

Me personally I’d actually put shinsos tuning on it if you have it

Free melee chain into alpha gamma combo

Only problem is I’m not sure if it works like his sa or his gamma

If gamma then it’s only useful if you can do a massive chunk of dmg in one go

[marble spruce]

god i love shigarakis special action since the buff

strike shggy feels so insanely good now

[hot moss]

☕

[jagged flame]

Finally I can use his knight costume

[marble spruce]

i need a skin for him so bad

[balmy hawk]

I highly recommend Kota finder, conversely. I have seen consistent success with it in Ace lobbies, and I run Wallrunner + Kota the same as the recommendation above Nobody plays it anymore, and if you tell your team in lobby you have it, you can almost always get Kota for free. Shiggy is such a late game scaler that it's really useful to get that headstart.

and in games where it isn't relevant, oh well. Red tunings are nearly all bad anyways (since most of them are just better for their regular damage+ stuff for shiggy.)

[hallow cosmos]

Kota finder is mid

[hot moss]

Kota Finder is fine for some people but I wouldn't personally recommend it unless someone is okay with trying to fight as early game Shiggy and possibly separate from the team.

Even if one person has luck not running into other Kota Finder users, someone else might have a different experience. I often find people fighting for him in my lobbies

[lapis elk]

What red would you recommend for that slot?

[hot moss]

There's no a lot of good red slots for him but maybe PU intensified since the damage that can do in a final circle is devastating. Though again that's only really ideal if you use Plus Chaos aggressively, not to escape.

I'd just say try out what you think would be suit you best

[hallow cosmos]

Honestly I feel PU intensified and turbo really compliment one another

Especially for the awakened heat

[subtle fog]

Which would y’all say is better?

[past urchin]

1st one ig i wouldnt want to run either for special tunes

i perfer wallrunner kota finder sisterly or aizawa

[hot moss]

I mean both are good
But I prefer the Special Tunes of the Heat Disguise Coat because of Wall Runner personally

[jagged flame]

Is Shinso's tuning worth using on strike shiggy?

[hot moss]

Ehhh, rather situational tbh

It doesn't stun enemies like Shinso's Special Action it just slows them down like his gamma, but people with mobility can still easily escape.

Besides most of the guardbreaks Shiggy is likely to obtain are from his alphas from a distance, so people would definitely be able to flee before you can even close the distance a lot of the time.

You may get lucky every now and then of course but that kind of Tuning is better on melee characters I think, since they'll always be well in-range to those they guard break.

Still it's not an awful tuning

[jagged flame]

Gonna test it on Denki

Gamma, alpha, melee then just beam them with alpha

It does have a few frames of stun on startup

[marble spruce]

is it true that shigaraki alpha wont knock people out of shinso's special action

my friend just told me thats the case, if so kind of insane

[jagged flame]

Haven't tested it

Likely because it isn't a physical attack or projectile

[marble spruce]

im just thinking about having your shinso command a target to walk into stacked shigaraki alphas 😭

[proud hearth]

Yep

[marble spruce]

such crumchy damage, god i love this character

[hot moss]

"Crumchy damage" is my new favorite term hehe

[cerulean meteor]

I think it’ll just knock them over

Like how if they take storm tick they wake up

[hot moss]

Wait so people can't be walked into storm?

[cerulean meteor]

No

Tried it on a pc assault deku and died for it

[hot moss]

Huh, I swear I've seen clips of people making characters go out into storm

[jagged flame]

Yeah but it wears off when they take damage

[hot moss]

Fair enough
I've not been hit by the Special yet to know how storm affects it

[sullen magnet]

I love Strike Shigaraki because you can 3rd party if you have a Level 9 Beta

It's just Sorta Luck Base if you get a Nejire, because you gotta hope that Nejire Died early or it's just very bad for you

He's the most comfortable playing ranked because you can catch people unexpectedly

[hot moss]

You can 3rd party with beta and alphas alike yeah, and I love how hard he can be to keep track of because of it.
He's very easy to reposition with and can keep pressuring people without them having eyes on you for very long if at all.

He's just one of those characters where you see his attacks going wild but rarely see him until he's gamma'ing you in the face pff

[sullen magnet]

Yeah, that's the thing i like

You don't have to aim often, just press The button without any consequences, if they hit you, they're bound to be attacked too, it's like a Mini-Boss when you face against a Strike Shigaraki, the difficulty relies on getting close to him, because that's the most difficult part without getting hit.

You can stay your distance from the Beta, but Alpha and Gamma is gonna come to you soon

But hey, atleast the Gamma is predictable

[hot moss]

Exactly
Ngl sometimes I find it funny with beta though, how much damage you can get on people as if they're just standing in the pool and not even trying to get out of the radius pff

[sullen magnet]

Yeahh

It also gets more funny where, you just hear multiple guard breaks because you Beta'd One Area where people was fighting

I've noticed that Chaos City is the best map for Shigaraki

Since it has alot of Tight Spots

[hot moss]

Chaos City is good but far too laggy 😔
I'd enjoy it a lot more if I didn't drop to -60fps everytime there was another Strike Shiggy or Momo present in the lobby

[sullen magnet]

Yeahh, it's annoying how it lag spikes so randomly

I love the map concept

Just very laggy

[hot moss]

Yeah I hate fighting in the underground facility early game though
It's just death lol

[lapis elk]

Anyone got any recommendations for the build or does it look good?

[hot moss]

I'd say that's good

[lapis elk]

Cool

[jagged flame]

Imo that's his best costume

Wish I had it

[lapis elk]

The only thing I’m not sold on is PU intensified

The issue is tho

Not many good options there

[hot moss]

Yeah red slots are just kinda "slap something there and hope for something better to be added" lol

[lapis elk]

That really sucks lol

[stiff lark]

i feel like assault shiggy is a little weak compared to strike shiggy

[hot moss]

His strength is in his combos more than his individual attacks

[sullen magnet]

Yeah lol

Honestly the only downside I see with Strike Shigaraki if you don't consider the flying type

His Glitch Grab, it sorta just, makes your opponent stuck in your hand, and then you have about 3-4 seconds before the opponent breaks free from the glitch, maybe it can be good to reposition the opponent into a Beta, Melee attack into SA, it's just a bit weird and messes up my flow

[proud hearth]

Yeah it needs to be fixed

[hot moss]

It doesn't need to be fixed, you just get to adopt a new buddy! :D

[sullen magnet]

Loll-

Yeah fr

[proud hearth]

(In Shigi’s voice)
“You’re my friend now. We’re having soft tacos later!”

[hot moss]

👍

[marble spruce]

i need it to be incorporated as an actual ability and you get to throw them at an enemy for like 100 damage

[hot moss]

Lmao yes!

[marble spruce]

omg fun little ranked experience yesterday. i was strike shigaraki and there was a tech dabi that landed right next to me and a box. we both went for the box and tried hitting each other but realized we are like the worst early game fighters so we locked eyes for a second, emoted hello, and went separate ways lmao.

[hot moss]

Speaking of throwing them at an enemy
Once I managed to grab someone then throw them at an approaching Strike Dabi so his beta locked onto them, not me.
10/10 meat shield

Also that's adorable hehe
Mutual understanding that you're both there to suffer :')

[marble spruce]

LOL

i love comboing strike shiggy gamma with stuff

my friend got his pov of this crazy combo we did of an AFO, lemme find the video

nvm i have it favorited lol

[balmy hawk]

Do we like SHinso tuning on Shiggy?

red shiggy specifically

[jagged flame]

Haven't tested it on shiggy

[balmy hawk]

feel like it probably turns some of his tech chases into true combos

given the slowing effect

I'll be testing it in ~300 more tickets

[hot moss]

I'll test when I hop online.
I don't really have any interest for the tuning personally even if does allow some of the tech to become true, it's still very situational. But if it works it'll at least be a red tuning that doesn't suck.

[jagged flame]

It does decrease movement speed by 20%

Could be worth using

[cerulean meteor]

Yh but it ruins combos

You can’t melee chain they’ll just get knockdown by the first one

[proud hearth]

Yellow shigi would probably love it

Red idk

I use beta more or less for intimidation

Or just to finish

[lapis elk]

That would be nice

That’s the one issue a good red special tuning for him

That does seem kinda interesting tho

Can awakened heat work for yellow also?

I imagine wall runner plus all the A and B attack power is probably just as good on yellow

[hot moss]

Yeah I see a lot of Assaults use that one

[lapis elk]

It probably doesn’t even really change much

Like everything red wants assault wants

[hot moss]

Tbh yeah
There's no build that's great on one but trash on the other

[lapis elk]

Except the dreaded red slot lmao

Please devs give us a good red slot for shiggy

[marble spruce]

apparently one that is coming will give you a damage boost if you melee someone. that one wont be too bad i think

at least better than what we have

[lapis elk]

It’s like the build is literally perfect if we had a decent red slot

[proud hearth]

Yeah definitely

You could run triple of two moves on it

So you could do triple beta and triple gamma

That’d be best for him

I run triple alpha and triple gamma cuz I go strike Shigi

[hot moss]

Triple gamma damage?
Cuz that doesn't do anything for Strike

[lapis elk]

Ye I’m on full beta and alpha

I even think that’s good for yellow

[hollow kiln]

how do i play yellow shigaraki

[marble spruce]

he has gnarly combos, do you know his BnB?

[hollow kiln]

BETA GAMMA BETA GAMMA right

[marble spruce]

yeah that one is really strong. does a tonnnnn of damage. his beta alone does a ton, its usually the first i max.

[hollow kiln]

what tuning do you run

[marble spruce]

i unfortunately dont have a pur on him so i havent bothered 😭

for the time being tho ill probably make a build with just aizawas tuning on, since that bugs out at lvl 1 and lasts the whole game.

[hollow kiln]

they gave out the one for expert last season

[marble spruce]

yeah i barely played last season. i usually run kendo and before she got that last second buff i wasnt really having a great time. she was pretty mid

[lapis elk]

I mean I feel like something like this

I built this for red shig

But like nothing is saying it won’t work for yellow as well

Wall runner may not be as valuable on yellow as red but preserving gamma usage makes wall runner good imo

[hollow kiln]

thats actually smart i never thought of that

unfortunately i dont have that skin

[lapis elk]

Yeah it’s the same theory with red kiri and wall runner

Preserve your mobility

For basically free

[lapis elk]

I think the long coat heat is also decent

[lapis elk]

Just encountered a hacker

Who died while hacking

How bad do you have to be?

🤣

[hot moss]

Bad enough to hack 🤷

[unborn blaze]

Anyone who plays assault shigaraki, any advice you guys could give me? I still don't own him, but I'm making it my mission to get good with every assault character, so I could use a headstart and get practise in training until I DO get him. I'm also writing a guide for assault characters, so, especially since I have no way of giving advice on my own, the more detailed, the better
Any input is appreciated!

[hot moss]

Anyone know if I'm allowed to share Shiggy art here?
Since there's no dedicated art channel and it's still related to the character?

[unborn blaze]

I mean I'm pretty sure you can

[hot moss]

I'll take it down if it ain't allowed for whatever reason, but I spent all night drawing my mhur Shiggy and I'm pretty proud of it (for now anyway)

Also yes the background and flamey decay effects are supposed to be pixilated to make the character stand out more.

[lapis elk]

Anyone test trance blow on red shig?

[hot moss]

I was going to but haven't had a chance. Haven't even played today

[lapis elk]

Just asking cuz I faced a red shig online using it

[balmy hawk]

I'll test it in ~25 more rolls when I pity Shinso Lol

[hot moss]

Birthday boy win

[marble spruce]

goat

[umbral stream]

How to use him I just got his quirk skill set and my first game with him I only had 1,104

[lapis elk]

Yellow shiggy is extremely combo based

He does a lot less damage then red but can theoretically do more in a vacuum if you utilize his stuns and combo potential

[umbral stream]

Tell me a combo

[marble spruce]

your bread and butter combo is gamma beta gamma beta

gamma keeps them in place so you can land a direct hit on beta

in game example of what it looks like

[vagrant veldt]

fire.

[cerulean rain]

he kind of just lets you do whatever you want as a combo @umbral stream you can do stuff like this in addition to what jacklyn posted. Hold Gamma into beta/collapse hand usually only works on HP. you can also get an alpha or another gamma on them if they get hit by hold gamma and are on HP but it's far less consistent compared to beta or collapse hand

[jagged flame]

This looks interesting

[jagged flame]

Would probably use Shinso with this build

[golden robin]

WIP

[weak ice]

Kota finder is interesting

[umbral stream]

Ok thx for tips

[golden robin]

6 assists

This was also in ranked

[jagged flame]

Looks like he clipped into the wall or disappeared?

[hot moss]

Average Chaos City buginess

[jagged flame]

Love catching them off guard

[jagged flame]

Was testing in training mode using 2 rapid cards, gamma into special action seems like its a true combo

Still depends on how Shiggy throws the opponent though

It's pretty consistent

[acoustic dove]

@hot moss I figured you’d like this

[hot moss]

YES
Even better than it was against the brick hehe

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/k9ep8o

Idk why they buffed Toga

Almost made me lose this match

[hot moss]

Iida being called Run em down is perfect

[wary willow]

Hot

[acoustic dove]

??

@next eagle

[next eagle]

What

[acoustic dove]

hi

[next eagle]

OHHH

I REMEMBER

HAI

[hot moss]

Wha

[jagged flame]

All that damage for absolutely nothing

I love when Twice does his free gamma alpha combo against me

It's so dumb

[marble spruce]

why did they even decide to shadow buff his gamma

everyone was already so annoyed with twice lmao

[jagged flame]

When did it get shadow buff?

[marble spruce]

pretty sure it was just this or last season where it just auto tracks to you regardless of where youre positioned

so buns, no one wanted this lmao

[jagged flame]

Once he gets nerfed ppl are gonna go to the next one button character

[hot moss]

Yeah, nobody can say they play twice for any reason besides the combos lbr

Remembering the time a Twice did some bs combo on me that killed me from half shield and full hp as I was stuck against a wall, then felt the absolute need to teabag me after like it was some victory to be that sad.
I'm not sure what he even did exactly but it was like his usual combo x10 or something.

[jagged flame]

Hot Take: I think that rapids shouldn't be able to do 250 dmg in a combo

Unless they're using embrittlement or strike cards which most of them don't

Ochaco being the best example

Iida also

They already have the movement to disengage from fights and most of the characters can't chase them

[hot moss]

Yeah Rapids in general should be the weakest role class in terms of damage output because of how they are. Instead some do more damage than most Strikes do

[jagged flame]

Ochaco does stupid damage

Her beta throw can keep staggering you until you're guard broken

Combos with her gamma is too much

She needs a hard knockdown nerf to her beta

[hot moss]

Maybe whenever her new set comes she'll be hit with the nerf hammer. But then Strike Denki didn't so who knows

[wary willow]

Rapids actually mean rush down and not just movement based in this game unfortunately

Rapid means you hp is gone and they will rapidly harass you

All rapids follow that theme all having insane damage from combos / attacks that lead into damage, very terrible role design with how much mobility they have

[hot moss]

Yeah fr

[wary willow]

Stay strong strike shiggies i believe in all of us

[hot moss]

Of course ☕

[jagged flame]

I want to be like this guy
https://youtu.be/dwgD0FUay0k?si=8COG6bm52Cfp7KdR

[dark stump]

yeah he's really good

[hot moss]

Eh

[stiff lark]

i,m trying to find a way to do all that on console and yellow shiggy currently

[hot moss]

KBM naturally has the advantage in that regard

Only so much can be done with controller

[wary willow]

Im about to play mouse on console again

[wary willow]

https://youtu.be/g2pDcgopFZE?si=vRXcLxO6JQUtytOi

[hot moss]

Nicccee

[hot moss]

Seeing Shiggy videos makes me a happy coffee bean

[dull egret]

Outlined shigi crab form

[hot moss]

Shiggy crab!

[dull egret]

I got it while playing remote play on the xbox app

[final saffron]

MY GRAB

PHASED THOUGH SOMEONE

SOMEONE GOT GLITCHED ONTO MY HAND

SOMEONE WALKED OUT OF MY GRAB

WTF IS THIS CHARACTER

Explain…

[vague parcel]

Bro I got to know if this is shigi bro

[dark stump]

Welcome to Strike Shiggy Gamma, one of the most inconsistent hitboxes in the game

[final saffron]

It’s not just a hitbox it’s buggy in general

I had someone in my hand

[dark stump]

You mean they were taking the health damage and walked out in the middle of it?
Or your grab just failed to grab

[final saffron]

No

They were stuck

On my hand

[dark stump]

oh you were carrying them

[final saffron]

Inactionable but stuck until I did it again

[final saffron]

Yes

And I’ve literally hit people with the grab but it doesn’t grab

Like

???

[dark stump]

Yeah that happens sometimes, it happens more often if you have lag

I know brazilian players have it happen like 60% of the time

Since you play switch you naturally have the most lag, which is probably why it would happen more to you

[final saffron]

Also question

How are some people doing the grab into sa combo?

Is it a gamma level issue?

[dark stump]

You have to hold forward while doing the grab

Correction, you have to hold forward during and after the throw

It doesn't work if they're mashing jump tho, if they mash jump they will air recover and you can't get the combo cuz they have invincibility frames
But if they don't do that then it'll usually hit, like 80% of the time

[final saffron]

sadly, my grab has to do 8000 spins before it grabs someone so it’s kinda hard to do

Final question

[dark stump]

btw if you're testing it in training mode it doesn't usually work for some reason, in any other mode it works like a charm

[final saffron]

Gamma

Hit

How

[dark stump]

Pray

[final saffron]

Doesn’t give me much confidence knowing the number one player is telling me this

[dark stump]

It is highly affected by lag, since I play on PC and have good internet it usually works for me

usually

as I said it's one of the most inconsistent hitboxes in the game

[jagged flame]

Yep

It drops quite a bit for me

[dark stump]

it sucks cuz Gamma is such a fundamental part of Strike Shiggy, but players in south america and other places without good internet can't use it cuz it bugs 80% of the time even on PC

[jagged flame]

I live in SA

I have decent internet but it's not good enough

[dark stump]

ohhh

[cerulean rain]

your connection to your target also matters

[dark stump]

I said that cuz I had Brazilian players tell me that his Gamma bugs 90% of the time

[cerulean rain]

if they're far enough away from you that it just adds a ton of delay between you two then it'll probably fail like if one of you were lagging

[dark stump]

Yeah laggy players break out of Strike Shiggy Gamma a lot

[cerulean rain]

honestly the game needs more regions since the majority of NA-SA connection has a ton of delay

i'm sure there's similar issues in EU where that's sizable distances between players who are both on EU servers despite being really far from each other

[final saffron]

He was 55 hp btw…

💔

Almost soloed 3 people

Also, I don’t know if this is a good thing but I’m like jumping 90% of the time whenever I use beta and alpha to stay in motion

Mostly because I saw someone make strike shiggy into a rapid Shiggy

Other than being inside a building (because this won’t work forever) how do you guys deal with flying characters?

Nejire, rapidgo, hawks etc

[sullen magnet]

(I can't say for Assault) because I've never played them)

For all flying characters, wait until they get down from the Sky, and then Strike, be aggressive as possible to them once they're on the ground.

Nejire, there's really nothing you can do other then the first strategy, except since she stays in the air longer then any other character, you're best bet is to dodge her attacks and wait until your teammates fight her so she's on the ground, Solo, you basically can't fight her until she gets on the ground, and that's easier said then done.

is the easiest to deal with.

is more medium.

is the hardest.

Also more advice for Shigaraki, I suggest when you use Beta or Alpha, after you do that, make sure you place the decay, and then quickly do Gamma, you can cancel it into more movement or so.

[sullen magnet]

If you think you can Special Action to her, that leaves you wide open tbh

Oh btw, I suggest that you level up your Beta first before anything

For me, it's the most comfortable for me, since it covers the place around you, and it helps more

[acoustic dove]

your* 🥹

[sullen magnet]

Neon.

[acoustic dove]

Look I HAVE to man

[sullen magnet]

I'm not gonna take this Abuse

[acoustic dove]

ABUSE??

[sullen magnet]

Lol- I'm joking

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/feazcp

I love when gamma works as intended

[sullen magnet]

When Gamma is maxed it, somehow it does so much damage

[jagged flame]

I use both HP attack power

And Overhaul's gamma attack power

[jagged flame]

Should do more damage

[marble spruce]

my favorite part about playing strike shigaraki is watching people panic roll as you gamma at them

[final saffron]

Does embrittlement stack with shiggy sa?

[jagged flame]

Yes

[jagged flame]

Then there's the ppl who wait and dodge it everytime

[marble spruce]

dark souls players

[sullen magnet]

Atleast it's easier when you use Beta and then Gamma

[stiff lark]

A little tech with yellow shiggy,depending on the angle of slam gamma u can Melle and reset them

[sullen magnet]

I've wanted to see what Strike Shigaraki's face looked like when he was doing Gamma.

Uhm.

[lapis elk]

Anyone gotten around to testing trance blow on red shiggy?

Or is kota finder or plus ultra power intensified better for the hero red special tunning?

[wary willow]

bro just blew up the kitchen trying to cook

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/extr02

[tardy flower]

I had a few assault shiggy/strike Dabi teams that absolutely murdered me last night. Does your tune work for both?

[final saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/shigaraki-tomura-shigaraki-shigaraki-head-splitting-my-villain-academia-shigaraki-origin-gif-23112298

Me when they jump after my grab so I can’t hit them with his special action

What can I do after gamma if I think they’re gonna jump?

(Strike shiggy obviously)

[hot moss]

Just wait lol
After gamma let em quick recover then jump and catch their wake-up with Special instead of instantly doing it after the gamma throw.
Takes some prediction on knowing which direction the enemy will move upon recovery though

[jagged flame]

Do a neutral jump into special action

Catches their wake-up most of the time

[hot moss]

Yeah

[jagged flame]

My teammates had no faith in me

https://streamable.com/37267i

But I clutched this match on my own

[sullen magnet]

Yeahh, Strike Shigaraki is the only characters you could confidentially say that he could potentially 1v3 people if there's no Nejire

[marble spruce]

using your special action to avoid the all might alpha shots from above is so smart

youre really good at the game

[final saffron]

…sigh…

[jagged flame]

This happens quite a bit
Just mash melee when you land a gamma in case that happens

[jagged flame]

You give me too much credit

[sullen magnet]

When that happens, for me, press Spam Melee, the Hitbox is still there for you to hit

[marble spruce]

teammates left so early, still managed to win solo with 10 kos

[half pike]

whats the word

whats the haps

[jagged flame]

Eliminate all rapids

https://tenor.com/view/tomura-shigaraki-reaching-out-hands-my-hero-academia-boku-no-hero-academia-gif-17120175

[umbral stream]

This quirk skill set?

[marble spruce]

yep!

i love both of his sets, but if im solo im doing assault because im more confident with him by myself lmao

[umbral stream]

Can I get a combo with quirk skull set

[final saffron]

It’s annoying how easily people can roll the grab

I get it from a game perspective, but how is someone rushing at you with their hand at the ground miss a grab when you’re rolling

Also, the tiniest bit of geometry can mess up your alphas for no reason

[hot moss]

Shmack

Nothing amazing but it's always satisfying slapping Rapids

[wary willow]

literally me when someone looks at me funny

[tired moth]

it sucks how the made this a melee tuning skill. Now i don't feel special using my sa anymore 😭

[proud hearth]

Alr I need to know what skin you run please

And also I know to always go gamma first

[marble spruce]

also sucks how long it lasts for people with it maxxed out. its soooo much shorter for shiggy. they should buff the duration by like 3 seconds

[sullen magnet]

Which is why you should wait till their Taking Damage from your Alpha or Beta, it's easier to do so, rather then just doing Gamma

[final saffron]

I always start fights with beta and alpha is “easy” to dodge

i only use gamma close range anyways (aka 90% of the time because i fight like a rabid dog with him)

[sullen magnet]

Fair enough

[final saffron]

Hitting a shiggy grab is the second best feeling attack outside hitting an ibara grab

I can’t pass up on that dopamine hit

[sullen magnet]

True, true, it really is

[final saffron]

Also is there any other shiggy combos other than the gamma into sa or the melee, melee sa?

[cerulean meteor]

Double melee x2 into alpha gamma

[jagged flame]

Hmmm

Never tried it

[hot moss]

It's not true
But it can work

[final saffron]

“It’s not true”

Annnnnnd I’m uninterested

[hot moss]

I mean even though it's untrue the window of evasion is very slim.
At high enough levels he can ToD with it if you beta at the very start.
It's just better to try and pull off in a 1v1, not when there's multiple people around

Beta, gamma whiff, melee 1, melee 1, alpha, gamma, SA
Is probably his most complicated combo due to the difficulties of intentional whiffing. (When gamma doesn't connect properly but the enemy still staggers)

Again, not a true combo, but still satisfying if it can be pulled off.

[stiff lark]

i,m using the yellow shiggy skin

or what i like to call it the pis shiggy suit

[proud hearth]

Oh

Dangerous suit?

[stiff lark]

ye i don,t remeber the name but it's the league of villians yellow suit one

[proud hearth]

Alr

Thx

[marble spruce]

yeah not to flex but i can hit the alpha alpha alpha alpha combo

[hot moss]

Dang! Goated fr ☕

[tired moth]

is there anyway to cancel any of strike shiggy's moves?

[hot moss]

Not in a literal sense.

You can cancel both alpha and beta into his gamma though, but it'd still use up the ability charges.

[tired moth]

i know some times you could cancel beta into gamma, without using the beta up but it may have been a bug

[hot moss]

Likely a bug, everytime I do it, even without having the beta come out at all it still makes it go on cookdown

Cookdown... yep lol

[marble spruce]

very satisfying

also had this crazy game today on strike shigaraki, had to work HARD since almost every team had rapid togas and rapid bakugos lol

[hot moss]

Great job!

[jagged flame]

I like when they don't recover after gamma

[tired moth]

it makes no sense, how it's easier to escape shiggy's gamma then strike dabis hug 💀. Like 3/4 of the characters can easily jump or fly over it and the rest can easily just roll out of it and sometimes the gamma don't even work even when it hits

also a little bit of damage reduction would be appreciated when you connect with the gamma , so your not just a sitting duck

[jagged flame]

I think it has armor though

[hot moss]

It does have armor yeah

If it didn't you'd take a LOT more damage

[jagged flame]

When the gamma drops I've been doing, melee 1, melee 1, melee 1, 2, SA

[hot moss]

That's not a bad combo to do

Good if you don't have a second gamma charge at your disposal

[tired moth]

yh but abilities without knockback like alphas and stuff you still take the same damage

right? Cause i tested in training and it didn't look like he had any damage reduction for his gamma

[hot moss]

Training barely works tbh
A lot of things don't function as intended there.

But tbf I'm not sure. I don't see why you would take the same damage, but some alphas hit so hard that it'd seem like a lot regardless

[cerulean rain]

Armor only makes it so a move that would guard break doesn't do any damage to hp with that attack, otherwise you still take full damage

[subtle minnow]

Trance blow shigi???

[hot moss]

Huh, fair enough. That's not something I've actually looked into myself

[tired moth]

Anyone know how you can fight against flying characters especially : Rapid Bakugo, Nejire and Ochacho because they are the only characters who stay in the air longest and kill you in the air and you can legit do absolutely nothing because they never come to the ground or never come close to you

[jagged flame]

That's the thing

Most of the time you don't

A smart player would keep their distance, approach then disengage, when in at a disadvantage

Not much you can do about characters that can literally stay off the ground for a period of time

Ochaco and Rapid Bakugo being the most annoying for strike shigaraki

[tired moth]

But if it’s a small circle and pretty open fielded , it’s quite hard to not get hit

Also rapid bakugo is just like the perfect counter. His whole kit lets him off the ground , he has probably the most air time and the one time he does move to the ground he uses gamma which is a frickin bomb and your not supposed to get close to him when he does that

[hot moss]

Rapid Bakugo:
With a lot of practice keeping tabs on their (admittedly very predictable) movement you can bait them into using gamma which you can grab them out of before the explosion.
It takes acute timing but that's the best chance you have against one with good cooldown management. That being said he definitely can't stay in the air the longest, though the time grounded is minimal.
Best you can do is gradually chip away at him when you know you have the chance and otherwise focus primarily on evasion. Yes his gamma can be rolled.

You know he has 3 betas, 2 gammas, and 2 Specials, so keep note of how many charges he uses up before he's left with only his alphas.
He can use air alpha to move around too but he's a lot more likely to get hit by you anyway if that's all he's got left. If he's focusing on hitting you with em he won't be able to focus so much on using them to dodge you.

In close quarters you may also be able to land a lucky air Special on him before he takes to the sky once again, or even reach him during his beta if you're quick and don't mind the damage trade.

[hot moss]

Nejire:
She's much more manageable than she used to be but is still a direct counter so still very annoying.
In a final circle against her honestly you're better off trying to win via heal-off in the storm.

However if you can bait her into a building it of course does make things easier for you. She can't fly so high so can be slapped down more easily and you'd have more chance of landing grabs on her than you would in the open.

One thing I try to do is time my alphas more precisely with her jumps. When I know she's on cooldown with beta and Special and is relying on her regular high jump to avoid touching the ground for a little I'll only throw alphas directly as she lands, not before, that makes it harder for her to know which way to jump to avoid taking any damage.
I've only started doing this recently tbh but it works. Her floatiness makes her very easy to predict the landing of and it's better than spamming alphas since she is a character that unfortunately can "just jump". Make it so that no matter how much she jumps around, every landing will be amongst a sea of decay.
Like Rapidgo, you kinda have to whittle her health down bit by bit. But she is always going to be tricky unless she's a new player.

[hot moss]

Ochaco:
Funnily she is one of the easier Rapids for me to deal with.
Yes her mobility is very strong, arguably better than both Froppys and Iidas with how far she can launch herself with her Special active.
However in the final circle, she's way less of a threat I find.

She can't launch herself really anywhere that won't risk her taking storm damage most of the time and her gamma is easily rollable.

and that's her biggest concern tbh
If you get caught in the gamma her combos are devastating but avoiding it isn't hard and if you can do that she's more limited on options.
You can air special over her when she betas if you're quick enough and you can beta lunge into gamma afterward to gain distance from the spin, if she's ground level she'll take a lot of beta and alpha damage.

Some Ochacos do the beta in the air and throw the car intermittently which is smarter on her part, but again dodging the cars isn't particularly hard with the power of spam rolling lmao
Neither is dodging her alphas, which in the very final circle she's more likely to use offensively than for traversal and you can see when she aims in to do so.

And of course if she's close enough and you roll her gamma that does leave her very open to either a grab or getting smacked out of the air since the animation leaves her vulnerable.
Ochaco is honestly a pretty easy character to read most of the time.
You know the gamma is the biggest problem that they will try to land as much as possible to do their combos, and if they alpha towards you they're immediately going to go into the beta spin so as soon as they approach get ready to gamma or air Special.

And as always if you can get her in a building and still avoid her gamma, she's a lot easier to fight. Only issue is getting hit by her beta is more likely.
So for her I work around doorways a lot.
Basically dipping in and out of the building whenever she goes into beta to lower the chance of being hit by the spin or the car throw, then going back in afterwards, usually with a surprise gamma because they don't know I was casually waiting out there.
I know she can spin out of the buildings, she's not blocked in by anything but they kinda just never do that and I'm not sure why.

[jagged flame]

I find that rolling her gamma is more difficult now

I used to always dodge it in earlier season

[hot moss]

I think they could've made it activate a little quicker like a shadowbuff or it's a lag thing, but I do see what you mean

[tired moth]

Thankyou for taking the time to create detailed solutions 😭🙏🙏, i appreciate it a lot

[hot moss]

You're welcome!
So sorry for the pings though 😅

[tired moth]

no no its fine

[tired moth]

i agree

weird hitbox as well, i roll out of the circle but it still hits me,

[hot moss]

That's usually related to lag. Most AOE moves are like that, it can make the hitbox seem worse than it actually is

[tired moth]

do you also know how to counter Cementoss and Aizawa? 😭

Cause with aziawa his alpha beats shiggy gamma

and he has erasure

and embrittlement 💀

and cementoss is such a pain with his alphas

doing his parkour

and he has quick cooldowns + lots of alphas

[jagged flame]

Aizawa is probably his worst mu

[hot moss]

You can't counter Aizawa and Cementoss has way too many pillars that he can pile up quicker than you can collapse down.

They're just those characters unfortunately.
Doesn't mean you can't win, I find Aizawa easier than Cementoss to deal with, but there's little you can do most of the time

[tired moth]

i think you just gotta try avoid his alphas as best as possible, cause thats the main problem with me

[marble spruce]

cementoss survivability is insane

i cant fight him fair on any character.

[tired moth]

feels like every character is a direct counter 😭

i'll just add these 2 to the list along with rapid bakugo, nejire and ochaco

[marble spruce]

we should make strike shigaraki more lore accurate and have his alphas insta destroy cementoss structures 🤑

[tired moth]

🤣

[hot moss]

Nah, only Nejire.
Over time you learn how to work around most of his counters

[tired moth]

but for aizawa, the play is just to wait until he's on alpha cooldown or try dodge them as best as possible

[hot moss]

Pretty much though his alpha basically has no cooldown

[tired moth]

if he doesn't have alpha it should be easier to fight

[tired moth]

oh yh he's a tech smh 😭

[tired moth]

hes so scary asw

[marble spruce]

aizawa is another character i struggle with on most characters. he is absurdly strong in 1v1s

[tired moth]

just when i thought i escaped him

he comes out of noweher

and i get hit with cement

[marble spruce]

especially with his easy sisterly embrittlement procc

[hot moss]

I'll never understand why Cementoss is even in the game.
He's seen nothing but buffs that he never even needed

[tired moth]

cringe tuning

[marble spruce]

yeah. its buns

[tired moth]

Yh

Its just that no one plays him

[marble spruce]

who even likes him as a character bro 😭💔

[tired moth]

if people actually play him they'll realise how op he is

but also why does he have so many alphas

and such little cooldown asw

[tired moth]

such a sweaty character

and he ticks all the boxes

low cooldowns, good damage, good combos, good movement, insta res, good hp

[marble spruce]

i doubt he'll ever be nerfed for this reason

similar to how not enough people talk about how op present mic is

[tired moth]

but when someone does play him its just annoying for the rest

[tired moth]

yh another underplayed character

[jagged flame]

Alot of ppl don't have present mic

[tired moth]

oh yh that too

too me he just has a boring kit

[jagged flame]

Best character in the game imo

[tired moth]

fair

[jagged flame]

His burst damage output is just insane

Decent vertical mobility

[tired moth]

and the disorientation sound effect is actually very disorienatting 😂

[marble spruce]

2 alphas with 2 just insta guard breaks

balanced

with a super forgiving hitbox and absurd range

[jagged flame]

I've been looking at outfits and this looked interesting to me

Was just looking for a costume than can do the most damage

[jagged flame]

How many crystals do you get in a battle event?

I wanna buy the limited tickets bundle but I wanna manage my crystals for next season

[dark stump]

7000 I think

[jagged flame]

Are you positive?

Its

7k

[dark stump]

You can only buy the 3k and 2k crystals once
You can buy the 1k crystals twice

3+2+1+1 = 7

[jagged flame]

That's the mission event

[dark stump]

Ah

[jagged flame]

I'm talking about the battle event

There's gonna be one this season

[dark stump]

The one where the rewards are in your missions menu I see what you mean, yeah idk those myself either sorry 😔

[jagged flame]

No worries man

[marble spruce]

should be pretty close to it

i think it was 6500 you get? dont quote me on that tho

[hoary nest]

My fault😔

[jagged flame]

Handshake with the guy that wears multiple hands on his outfit

Totally NOT suspicious at all

https://streamable.com/lxrr8p

Been using rapid cards offensively more often

[deep moon]

How does one properly play Strike Shigiraki? Wanna main him and im curious what are good builds tunning wise and just general tips

[hot moss]

Awakened (heat) and either Cyberpunk costumes are his most commonly used for tuning builds as they allow for a lot of damage buffs
However Wall Run can also be really good for him too or.... Sisterly...

To play him you never want to overstay your welcome in a fight. His hp buff helped a lot but he can still die fast with no real means of defense, so try to fight from a safe distance, closing the space every now and then to apply more pressure with a high level beta or chase low individuals who are trying to flee, but never try to be in the direct middle of a fight. Work around the edges.

For levels alpha or beta maxing is the way to go, it's down to preference really, I usually go beta max but try to get my alphas to level 5 at the very least. Gamma I try to have at 4.
He is very level dependant so it's best not to try and fight early game if you can help it.

UA is his best map, USJ is his worst.

If things are getting chaotic try to lock down an indoor area somewhere with your team.
However if a stronger team tries to force you out and take claim of the building, play it smart and just leave.
Your beta can still put pressure on them if you use it from the outside though, and if you follow the damage numbers to see where someone is trying to leave you could greet them at whichever other exit they seem to be heading to with a gamma.
The best buildings to try work within or around are spacious ones with multiple floors.

And since it's becoming common knowledge now you should try to make use of Shiggy's Special both offensively and for mobility.
Jumping while looking up as you press Special will give him some vertical height as well as allow him to hit people (within a certain range) in the air.

Other than those basic things there's no "proper" way to play him. He's just a fun character that many people use in different ways and find what works for them 👍

[deep moon]

Noted thank you for all the info you're a legend

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/g0gbog

Man teammates are blind

I can't trust them to confirm my ko's

Momo almost got away

[deep moon]

Gamma combos into special action?

[hot moss]

It does when the enemy doesn't fast recover

More consistent if you hold forward while throwing someone then pressing the Special

[deep moon]

Got it

[acoustic dove]

[deep moon]

What does one do if he has no pur skins for shigi?

I wanna tune but don't know which skins I have would be best to tune strike shigi?

[deep moon]

Holy that damage is disgusting I LOVE IT

[jagged flame]

Found out it's guaranteed if you use 3 rapid cards

I mean 2

[hot moss]

Yeah, I don't feel the need to waste cards on just doing that tho lol

[marble spruce]

okay quick question because i see people say this and get confused

do rapid cards also boost your attack speed? i thought they only improve your movement speed and get the wall run effect

[hot moss]

They do increase attack speed too

[marble spruce]

neat!

[subtle minnow]

I didn't know that

[jagged flame]

Well I do

[hot moss]

That's valid

[jagged flame]

It could be the difference of you getting a ko or not

[hot moss]

I mean I just don't use the cards because I can land it anyway, just as long as they don't fast recover (and my lag isn't too bad)
But I know consistency with it is hard for a lot of people so using the cards like that is a good idea

[hoary nest]

I'm with coffee demon

[tired moth]

hehe

[tired moth]

i didn't know that either

[tired moth]

yh same i always like store 3 cards but never use them cause i'm afraid of wasting them and not saving them for later 🤣

[jaunty dragon]

what speed cards?

[tired moth]

Also, is the combo not random, even if they don't fast recover i'm sometime get the combo and sometimes i don't . I get it lke 4 / 10 times

[tired moth]

any card in general 🤣

[jaunty dragon]

true

[tired moth]

but especially rapid, attack and sometimes defense

[jaunty dragon]

i think ever since i got my wallrunner build i stopped hoarding blues

but if it makes special after gamma true then ill do it again lmao

[hot moss]

Yeah there's always times where it still drops though in my experience I tend to only have that happen when I know I've got some lag (such as playing on Chaos City)

Consistency with the combo is weird for me I just don't have difficulty landing it 95% of the time when they don't fast recover. Don't need to move forward or throw them against walls necessarily either, and I really don't know why it's like that for me.

[jaunty dragon]

same man i be trying everything

when i switched to EU tho it lands like almost all the time lmao

trance blow (shinso) kinda helps sometimes

cuz it makes them fall slow enough for the hit to connect

[hot moss]

Yeah Trance Blow is okay on him, not great but not awful.
One of the lesser bad Red Slot tunings

[jaunty dragon]

i like it mostly for those pesky rapids or a sisterly abuser....or the unfortunate combination

[hoary nest]

Wall runner trance blow is so peak. Using the gamma glitch to your advantage by melee into special action so they're double debuffed

[jaunty dragon]

gamma glitch?

[hoary nest]

When instead of letting the gamma activate the grab you basically just hold them. You can use this to land a free 2 melee into special action

[jaunty dragon]

oh

😭 i'd rather it just grab most the time

[hoary nest]

Me too but the glitch has become so frequent for me I'd rather use it to my advantage for me to get an easy grab that actually works the second time 🤣

• more dmg

[tired moth]

a lil irrelevant but anyone know what to do if you get hit by ochacho gamma? Like i get hit and then i get tod comborf

[hoary nest]

Pray

[tired moth]

is there no way i can get out of the combo

or am i just hitsun all the time

[hoary nest]

Sadly not, but you can gamble with a quick wake up cause if you're fighting a console ochaco it's close to guaranteed for them to hit the follow up car after the gamma drops

With a quick wake up there's a chance they're so lazy and let the aim assist aim the car for them which means it won't actually hit you because the quick wake up changes your position too fast for it to correct

You'll be low on hp, they'll try hit you with a grapple, pop a yellow or green card immediately your options to get away are either a special action up then beta into gamma out or alpha gamma. Try to shift in-between buildings

[tired moth]

And its so annoying as well because i'm pretty sure i legit rolled out of the circle

[hoary nest]

Ong man, genuinely happens to me all the time. It's got a bs hitbox

[tired moth]

Wait to escape it are you supposed to go out the circle or can you stay in the circle and just dodge at the right time like afo gamma?

[tired moth]

and a bs combo 😭

[hoary nest]

You can do both. If you roll when you hear the ding and you're in the circle it'll dodge it

[hoary nest]

I hate it sm

[jaunty dragon]

fr

Gamma is the biggest issue, ofc after she misses that it's dodge all her attacks until she feels silly enough to alpha directly into you, then its grab/special smack time.

[jagged flame]

[jaunty dragon]

Wish they'd bring her HP back down to 250.....like...she's only the best rapid ever why does she have 300

lmao

[hot moss]

One of the devs has to be an Ochaco main lol

[jaunty dragon]

the girl could quite literally stay in the air all game if she wanted to 😭 , still a more bearable red shiggy matchup than nejire tho

[tired moth]

nah, cause nejire is more stationary, so your more likely to sa or air melee her

[jagged flame]

Yeah I didn't understand why they gave her more hp when she has some of the best mobility in this game

[jaunty dragon]

only really stationary during her beta, and the rate it ticks usually knocks you down before u can close in with any move, including armored gamma. Yellow Shiggy got that with a clean beta tho

ofc if shes silly and using the spirit bomb charge for maxiumum time like....3 cm off the floor then you can possibly get something off

and hit her with the wakeup melees

[marble spruce]

and some of the best combos too, shes not even a glass cannon

[tired moth]

Anyone know what to do after shiggy beta? Cause after I use beta there's this long animation where shiggy is just idle and stationary and basically a sitting duck. I know you can use gamma straight after, but I would like other options as well in case I don't have gamma.

[jaunty dragon]

i think u gotta just hold that after not having ur gamma up sadly

it's the same thing for when u do a air beta cancel thing

u just kinda sit there

[tired moth]

oh, i might have to switch mains icl

there's too many counters with shiggy

[jaunty dragon]

he's the lowest tier for a reason

😔

[tired moth]

i got demolished by an all might who was using alpha 😭

[jaunty dragon]

All might alphas hit way too hard thanthey should so it's fair

[tired moth]

and i made the mistake of just doing beta with no gamma available and i paid the price by getting alpha spammed by a deku and shoto

[tired moth]

IKR , i thought the guy was cheating

cause all his alphas hit

but also they dealt so much damage

but turns out it was always like that

[jaunty dragon]

and the splash damage hits too

so even if u dodge

u get hit

[tired moth]

YHHHH

I WA DODGING BUT STILL GOT HIT

[jaunty dragon]

especially sucks for shiggy since he's a floor magnet

[tired moth]

Like there was nothing i could do as shiggy

EXACTLYYY

[jaunty dragon]

i usually go for the grab directly on him

[tired moth]

But he's got so much health that it's useless 😭

[jaunty dragon]

its risky

[tired moth]

he aint getting intimidate by a grab

and all might is a floaty charatcer as well, so you can;t even deal damage with alpha or beta on him

and if you try escape with shiggy, all might has way better movvement

[jaunty dragon]

you can't really alpha for alpha with him either cuz he's so floaty and he jumps high too

yeah

[tired moth]

So theres another counter character for shiggy added to the list

[jaunty dragon]

well i had a list for this lmao

idk where i put it

[tired moth]

oh pls show me

the more and more i play against different characters , the more counters to shiggy i find 😭

[jaunty dragon]

grrr looks like ill have to remake it

[hot moss]

@tired moth All Might doesn't counter him.
Shiggy alphas go straight through his tornado and can be the moment you're able to dish out the most damage to him.

He's floaty but in a fight he won't be using his betas to try and air stall or anything so you can predict where he lands easier.

Many characters struggle to deal with his absurd splash damage, it's not just a Shiggy thing.

Plus All Might doesn't have as much range with his alphas as Shiggy does which can also be worked to your advantage.

As for the beta thing, yeah using it when you have gamma available to cancel into it is the best thing, but if you spam the dodge button you can end the animation a little quicker too.
You're still stationary but not for as long.

[tired moth]

You are a saviour 🙏

your like the mhur ai, giving me great solutions

i didn't even realise you could outrange him with alphas

but can he not easily close the gap with his beta or jump?

[tired moth]

oh i didn't know that 🙏

[hot moss]

They usually wouldn't want to waste beta charges just to close the distance, especially in a straight line chase since the moment he lands could be amidst a sea of alpha decay.

They are likely to use their jump though in which case you could simply gamma away every time he tries to get closer and keep that distance.

[jagged flame]

Imo Endeavor is worse than Strike shiggy

[hot moss]

Yeah Strike Shiggy is definitely not in the lowest tier anymore.

He's not A but he could be high B

[tired moth]

wait if i had a rapid card would the animation be less as well? or does that not count?

[hot moss]

Well high/middle

[jagged flame]

Endeavor can't even run away

[hot moss]

Rapid cards increase the movement of everything so that would affect the animation too yes, though I'm not sure by how much

[jagged flame]

It makes the overall animation faster

[tired moth]

oh sick

[jagged flame]

Gamma will go the same distance but the animation and attack speed is faster

[tired moth]

i might run revenge rapid on shiggy then

what builds do you guys use?

[jaunty dragon]

that one is iffy

[tired moth]

wait does that also include like dash speed increase tunings? Or is that a stretch and just for running? 🤣

[tired moth]

yh there are a lot of good ones with shiggy

[jaunty dragon]

i run wallrunner on just about all my non vertical mobility characters and then i p much put just about anything else on the other slot

[tired moth]

The ones i have in mind are : Nejire, Assault Ochacho, Tech Dabi , Aizawa and Rapid Ochacho

[hot moss]

I run Wall Runner. It doesn't enhance attack or animation speed but the wall run means he can escape better and survive easier.

I also have Revenge Technical but only because it has to be a villain slot and I didn't care for the other options lol
Someday I might be able to switch that for a different build still with Wall Run.

[jaunty dragon]

yeah

[tired moth]

But shiggy does have vertical movement

[jaunty dragon]

im thinking bout the nejire one honestly

[tired moth]

which is why i dont like putting wallrunner on him

[jaunty dragon]

he does, but more options off without that is super nice

[tired moth]

i see

[hot moss]

WallRunner + Spiral Leap + Shiggy movement tech

Rapid Shiggy

[jaunty dragon]

• the ability to have gaurantee'd escape or chase at nearly all times is 💯 🔥

[tired moth]

But i'm thinking abt the future

Cause there are some situations where you can't wallrun

Okay only one

Assault Ochachos floating island

[jagged flame]

I've been looking through costumes and saw this

[jaunty dragon]

i dont wanna speak on anything we aint seen yet so 🤫

[tired moth]

And also hitting characters in the air

like nejire

if you had her special tuning or assault ochacho where you get increased jump height , then you can win more air battles

or atleast get a hit in

[jaunty dragon]

the hit is nice if it's the final hit but with no followup attacks incase it isn't just 💔

[tired moth]

true 😔

you could possibly do a sa slam dunk into air melee

[jaunty dragon]

like in those cases you can special action and then air melee

i've gotten a down on that like

3 times

[tired moth]

that is if your above the oppent and have an sa

[jaunty dragon]

if they actually do lke

fix the tuning to run/dash speed and jump height

[tired moth]

but when you sa did you slap them downwards or just horizonatlly?

[jaunty dragon]

thatll be nice

[tired moth]

yhh

[jaunty dragon]

tbh i've never noticed

ill have to rewatch those old clips

[tired moth]

oh okay

[jaunty dragon]

rhn

i need help with this

@hot moss What we think about this so far

Matchup Tier list

[hot moss]

That's how Strike Shiggy does against other characters right?

[jaunty dragon]

ye

based on strictly PC

i dont have much experience on other platforms

need help with over/under sights

[hoary nest]

You can defo mess up a shinso if you play your cards right(probs gonna catch a warning for this but it's worth it)

[jaunty dragon]

oh for sure

im struggling cuz im like man

ik for a fact....and this kinda applies to most characters but esp on shiggy, if i catch them off guard and burst them with tons of damage then it WILL put them in fight or flight and it's considerably easier to kill them if they start making mistakes

no matter the tier

but that's not like....something i wanna consider cuz it's not 100% an option,

also even if u get clapped, i'm totally waiting on that skin lmao

[hot moss]

Ibara isn't a huge threat but can definitely hurt so could maybe put her in "Dangerous but Punishable" She can use all her attacks to air stall but it makes it easier to catch her landings with alpha, and you can obviously get out of her beta and gamma range very easily.

Kendo could be in "Lock in" if you can roll her clap you can grab her out of her endlag clap animation instantly.
Plus her shield doesn't block alphas. She is pretty hard countered by Shiggy.

Red Kiri could join Ibara in "Dangerous but Punishable" Shiggy does counter him but it does take a lot of timing with dodging his betas which is the most oppressive thing that can lead to his combos.

I would say Strike Deku too since Shiggy counters him as well but if it's based on PC then he's okay where he's at.
-# I know PC Dekus are nightmare fuel to a lot of people

Mic I would maybe move down to "Dangerous but Punishable" just because of how hard he hits with beta into gamma.

Those are just my takes, I'm on PS though so I'm sure other PC players might have different opinions on that but Kendo is definitely free food lmao

[hoary nest]

I getchu i getchu. I think in a straight 1v1, you gotta keep distance and your eyes on em at all times otherwise you're genuinely f**ked. The only chance we got is when they touch the floor and when they're whiffing shots

[jaunty dragon]

nah i agree with just about all these tyty, i need to know what isn't just like MY own experience/ego takin the wheel with these matchup opinions lmao

as for red deku man....he was much easier before his buffs to things like gamma speed

hesistant to move ibara tho that's the only thing ill push on

[hot moss]

Yeah, but you can gamma through his beta to grab him
(As long as the stomp isn't directly on your head)

[hot moss]

What do you struggle with for Ibara out of curiosity?

[jaunty dragon]

open field 1v1s

if theres literally any obstacle im using it

but it's the same with like redku

esp on PC

they both have high damage alphas and both knock

on pc at max range they are likely not missing

which means before u can even do anything you get shield broke frame one

red deku ig isnt too too bad cuz if he decided to gamma up then he HAS to come down somewhere

but if ibara is hitting the air stall and not missing that could end quickly

hm, then ig that means best chance up close to midrange

[hot moss]

Hm
On PS Ibara has a long enough alpha startup animation that you know how to time the dodges pretty well, against her I tend to move purely left and right in an open area. Making it as hard as possible for her to aim at me. If she tries to predict and aim ahead of me, I can still see her doing that and dodge the opposite way in time.
Maybe she's a bit quicker with the animation on PC?

Her air stall also does really nothing to save her tbh
Since she's still in one spot and not actively moving around you can place alphas right under her as she lands, she has no way to avoid taking that damage and she can only air stall intermittently, not for long at all. She can also end up wasting her charges a lot just in an attempt to not touch the ground.

If you do close the distance though, which isn't really the best idea against good Ibaras, try and stay behind her as much as you can. Her gamma is easy to dodge but her beta not so much. Though no matter what move she uses if you dodge it she is instantly open to getting grabbed since she is stationary for everything.
Or if she's in the air she's always gonna be within air Special range.

You kinda do just have to make the most of the fact that Shiggy can outmanouvre the heck out of her and stay agile.

If I'm close to her and I know she doesn't have her beta charge ready I'll sometimes try to bait her grabs. I'll start rolling around close to her to make it look like I'm in a panic, then alpha flip behind her and cancel it into my own grab from behind.

[jaunty dragon]

in terms of alpha animation i think it's that most the PC ibaras i fight aim in

if they don't then i have a signifigantly easier time dealing with them

[hot moss]

True
I'm not sure I see many PS ones aim in tbh

[jaunty dragon]

aim in does more damage too i beleive

i dont even wanna count tuning.....p much 200 damage alphas 😭

[hot moss]

Yeah I genuinely forgot she gets benefits from aiming lol

[jaunty dragon]

and man sometimes her beta even ticks behind her, if timed right you can still get your gamma off and trade that way

trading with a 400 hp character tho 💔

our 350 health buff tho

:D

[hot moss]

I don't think I've ever experienced getting hit by her beta from behind her. Unless it's like a tiny room where it bounces off the walls of course, but not in the open :<

[jaunty dragon]

oh

you know what

iforgot it does that

that mighta been why

i think i gotta rename/reorder the tiers too tbh

cuz all that Pc ibara aim glaze got me looking at deku and bakugo

[hot moss]

Yeah that looks better to me!
I would put Mirio lower but that's just because I'm so unlucky with either lag issues or controller issues making dodging his beta a pain for me :')
But I know he's not really a hard character to fight so he's good where he is

[jaunty dragon]

ngl im thinking so too, cuz even if he's like extremely dodgeable he can make the fight REALLY long and Annoying, yourr best chance at getting him is when he's close

Alr final(ish) vers for now lmao

[hot moss]

👍

[jaunty dragon]

All this got me thinking....they should reduce iida health to 225 so i can scare the mess outta them with one grab 😌

[hot moss]

Lmaooo
Nah his health is okay
One tuned grab is enough to invoke fear anyway

[jaunty dragon]

Also to change subject abit has anyone mastered the Alpha Air cancel cuz it's kinda driving me nuts with how precise it is

[jaunty dragon]

true, my rapid hatred runs deep tho

lol

[hot moss]

The cancel into gamma?

[jaunty dragon]

nahnahanh like

the one where u cancel the jump part of the beta in the air

but for alpha

here hollup

[hot moss]

Ohhhh

Yeah you have to press alpha like a single frame off the ground, it's very precise lol

I wouldn't worry about that very much, in a battle it's not going to make a huge amount of difference to anything even when you can pull it off

[jaunty dragon]

man.... ig so

was trying it for a good hour or so lol

the difference is literally a few frames 😭

just tryna find anything i can do with this man at this point lol

[cerulean rain]

Just focus more on being slippery rather than air alpha cancels tbh

[hot moss]

Yeah some things are cool but ultimately don't hold any real value. That's one of them 😔

[jaunty dragon]

😔

[tired moth]

I'd argue it's actually alright fighting aizawa . Far away you can outrange him with alpha. Close range if he uses erasure, you can stil get close and hit him with sa or melee, and then when you have the opening go for a grab or melee combo. Idrk cause i haven't fought many aizawas but packed one up just by doing this.

[tired moth]

Amen

[cerulean rain]

An aizawa who knows how to fight strike shig will never touch the ground since he doesn't have to

[jaunty dragon]

Nah a good Aizawa's one of the worst things you can fight

[cerulean rain]

If he uses all 5 alphas he can still stall with beta and gamma and while he's still mid-air the alphas will recharge and by the time he's done with using 5 alphas again the rest of his kit has fully recharged

He will never get hit by your alphas or your beta the only option strike shig has in that matchup is taking a damage trade with gamma and hoping gamma works or taking a trade with collapse hand and hoping collapse hand hits while you're still getting hit for more damage than him

[jaunty dragon]

and that not even counting the embrittlement that everybody and their grandma has on aizawa now

where even if he lands in the middle of everything he'll just outright kill a 400hp character off his bread and butter combo

And this was the guy they decided to give 2 more alphas...on EVERY level

😭

[hot moss]

Gamma trade?
Who's gamma-ing into him from the front when he's snaking that scarf around??

[cerulean rain]

I never said it was a good idea, i just said a thing that you can try, especially because even if it does work you still take more damage than you deal

The MU is unwinnable if they're a competent aizawa

[jaunty dragon]

i dont even think your prayers will be reached in this MU

[wraith mulch]

Hii

[hot moss]

If he's doing gamma just gamma around him and grab him from the back while he's vulnerable lol
No need to dive headfirst into his attack

[cerulean rain]

that only works if they're dumb enough to do it where you can grab them

a competent aizawa is just "yeah, i am NOT contesting this" as strike shig though

because dude never hits the ground

the fact that beta and alpha reload without him landing on the ground is absurd

[hot moss]

Unless they use it to air stall they have no other way of using it without them being within grab range, and if used to air stall you can smack them down, again from behind so no damage trade.
His gamma is his move vulnerable move.

But I know he has no cooldowns. Hopefully someday he does see a nerf to that where he has to be grounded for things to reload

[jagged flame]

Repost

https://streamable.com/feazcp

[jagged flame]

Didn't play today

[umbral stream]

What’s the better Shigraki strike or assault

[tired moth]

depends on you

strike is more fun and good in late game

assault is overall good

but hard to get the most use out of his albilities

imo

strike has more aoe damage

whereas assault is mainly for 1v1s

yk what i'll play assault shiggy once and see how he is

i remeber he used to be a menance and like s tier

but idk what happend to him

i think the other characters just got buffed and outpowerd him

assault shiggy also has better air mobility and good at fighting flying characters

[candid vigil]

Is the gamma into special action worth going for?

[hot moss]

Yeah if you think you can land it often enough.
Otherwise you can wait to use air Special on people that fast recover after the gamma

[candid vigil]

U can use special action in the air?

[hot moss]

Yeah
Jump and use it and you can gain some vertical height

[candid vigil]

Good to know

That will come in handy

[hot moss]

Most definitely 👍

[candid vigil]

Thank you genius

[umbral stream]

How to use assault shigraki

[proud hearth]

Yes

[hoary nest]

Fuxk triple assault meta

[proud hearth]

But if I’m being serious u gotta straif a lot

And learn his combos

[umbral stream]

Can I know the lvl up order and a combo

[proud hearth]

Well my level order is G9, B9, A9

And his combos are a little weird

First tick of gamma, beta, first tick of gamma, beta

That’s true

But you can also replace the last beta with an alpha if you want

Or you can just let the second gamma finish if you wanna save your other beta

[jaunty dragon]

G9....B9....A9!?!?!?
O . O

[proud hearth]

Yeah Gamma is crazy

It’s hitbox is MASSIVE

And I meant massive

You’re gonna hit stuff you wouldn’t even imagine hitting

[jaunty dragon]

im an A9 till i die lmao

but i do like my tuning buffed grab

🤔

[umbral stream]

This for assault right?

[jaunty dragon]

ohhhh assault

🔥

he's cookin

[umbral stream]

So for what he said it’s for assault

[proud hearth]

Ye

[marble spruce]

never done g9

i usually do b9 and then g9

because i like chucking rocks at people

[proud hearth]

Fair, but his gamma’s hitbox at max is too good to pass up

At least for me

[jaunty dragon]

yeah it hits alot higher than i can recognize

[stiff lark]

as an assault shiggy main i'd say g4,b4,g9,b9,a9

[stiff lark]

i need this costume

[hot moss]

Ewie

[jagged flame]

Ik sisterly

[acoustic dove]

do you guys get joy causing pain on others

Shigaraki has been a PAIN recently

and I know you people are responsible ..

[jagged flame]

???

All we do is destroy

https://tenor.com/view/mha-my-hero-academia-boku-no-hero-academia-bnha-paranormal-liberation-arc-gif-15242364179214868489

[long python]

Support strike shiggy when?

[proud hearth]

Why sisterly

[candid vigil]

What do I use for the lov suit base costume

I've got wall runner so far

[tired moth]

He's not that hard to counter though, just imagine your playing don't touch the floor 😭

[acoustic dove]

it’s hard not to touch the floor when I’m a grounded character ..

[jagged flame]

When I use Ibara I jump and use alpha

[acoustic dove]

Ibara can float that’s DIFFERENT

[hot moss]

Even then Ibara can only do so much to avoid the floor