Tomura Shigaraki

[hollow salmon]

is yellow alpha weaker now?

or did you do always like 2 hits?

[hot moss]

I hadn't heard of any changes to his alpha, but then I don't use him lol

[jagged flame]

His alpha did get nerfed in season 5 cus it did way too much damage

[cedar pelican]

Need to change it back 🤜

[jagged flame]

Considering how the meta are mostly characters that can stay in the air for a long time

They just keep nerfing the base roster

There's no reason to use Strike Bakugo cus it doesn't feel like it's worth it

It's crazy they nerfed him because of Hawks

[hot moss]

Nevermind the ludicrous hit stun combos that lead to just death lol

[hot moss]

Man, haven't bothered with solos since the first time it was added..
Does he still hold up well there?

[glass dagger]

Usj yeah ua islands nope

Too many flyers in ua islands

[glass dagger]

So whaddya thinkbof my sixth sense moment lol

[hot moss]

Sixth sense? You could see the Deku lol
Unless you mean before then you felt like someone was there in which case your sense served you well 👍
Either way you annihilated the poor fella XD

[glass dagger]

It's funny because a few seconds before either recorded that I was in the home screen checking out if I recorded from a different match

Like I felt someone was nearby and then I see the deku getting in his position

[hot moss]

Tbf opening the box in the middle of the map in solos would probably make anyone feel like someone was nearby pff

[glass dagger]

Catching people when they have their guards down feelsgood too

[dark stump]

You're sending through mobile right?

Your clips are most likely over 100MB which is the limit without nitro in this server, so if you send vids through mobile it automatically compresses it for you so it can send

also good clips 👍 you aim your alphas pretty well

[glass dagger]

Does gamma throw into sa a true combo?

[dark stump]

It's only true sometimes, it's a gamble really

It depends on the throw, though with how quick you have to do SA it's already too late when you realize what kind of throw it is for it to be true

and even then it's still only true sometimes

Like you see in B4Shounen's clips he was able to land it a couple of times, but a lot of those times the opponent could've avoided it if they air recovered earlier

so in those times it isn't "true", he just took a gamble on whether or not they would air recover in time

and again, even if they don't air recover at all it can still miss entirely cuz the throw sent them too low/far

[hot moss]

Satisfying when it works though
Especially if it leads to a Down hehe

[faint turret]

What should I max out first for yellow shigi? I just got him

[cedar pelican]

Beta

And then alpha

[hot moss]

Thank you for not saying gamma.
A lot of people gamma max first and I have no idea why. It doesn't increase the range or stun duration and alpha/beta are your main damage dealers that you can use at a further distance.

[hot moss]

The Special Down 🤌

[dark stump]

Level 9 Gamma is only like 30 damage more than Level 1

once you get your Gamma to Level 3 that's when you two-shot rapids (assuming they have no Assault teammates)

also if you do Gamma at Level 1 after Special Action it does almost as much damage as a Level 9 one so like yeah you're not missing out

[hot moss]

Ohh

[jagged flame]

Console has really strong aim assist

But shigaraki isn't difficult to aim with

[dark stump]

Correction: Level 1 with Special Action does like 10 more damage than Level 9 without

[glass dagger]

Hoe are you doing 106 damage

Regular lv 9 shiggy does like 100

[hot moss]

Tuning? Plus having a Strike teammate

[glass dagger]

Oh right

I didn't even see your teamamtes💀

[dark stump]

His throw does 105 at Level 9, at Level 8 it does 103

but since he has a Strike teammate it would be 110 damage at Level 9, but in his case it would be 108 since he's at Level 8

the Nejire probably either has "HP Defense+" or "Gamma Defense+" and that's why it did 106

[jagged flame]

Yep

[south chasm]

THAT CAN COMBO!?

[hot moss]

Not reliably 😅
I've just been getting lucky with it

Like with this (also just want to show a tasty bird takedown lol)

[cedar pelican]

🔪

[jagged flame]

Nothing like a 1v1
https://streamable.com/osajm9

[marble spruce]

do that again

[glad wharf]

What skin should I get

[hot moss]

Whatever the game lets you get

[cedar pelican]

Can’t really pick

[dreamy storm]

it might be stupid and a huge waste of resources, but i wanna make a large chest build with red shig lol

specifically red hoodie shig

that hoodie has a green and blue special tune and i wanna put ibara and mirio in those slots to get immediate early game levels on red shig
realistically, i should probably but iida instead of mirio for wallrun

[dark stump]

That's part of my build actually!!!
I'm too stubborn to switch from my main costume (The birthday skin), and Support is one of the special slots. So I put Ibara in there.

It's fine as long as you can survive with him imo, it takes less than 3 seconds to open the big box it's crazy. I just see no one is looking at the box and I just sneak in there and loot it rlly quickly and scram, has never failed me once.
I recommend doing the same even if you have Quasi-Permeation. Let's say you landed box since that's the only way to get use out of Quasi-Permeation. Since it takes less than 3 seconds to open the box you still only have 5 seconds left of Permeation after you open it, and say it takes 2 seconds to look it, so that still leaves you with 3 seconds of Permeation left. Even if you have a good squad backing you up, there's a chance that your team is still gonna be wiped cuz you're playing early game Strike Shigaraki. And the 3 seconds of permeation left isn't gonna be helping you escape most of the time.

In your build, you can use this skill on the 1st box and within like 30 seconds of the 2nd box spawning I think

[dreamy storm]

Oh bet

[hot moss]

There's also Aizawas Special Tuning which is bugged so throughout the whole match shield potions will only take a second or two to drink.
I don't have it on any Shiggy build but I do on one of my Dabi ones. It's helpful if you're being chased because you still have time to pop a shield while on the run lol

[rugged bluff]

Why don’t we get this skin in the game? It would feel so cool to play with it

[hot moss]

Real. I'd wear it

In game

[nova heron]

Why stop there?

[hot moss]

I meeaaaaaannnnnn

[nova heron]

Exactly

[robust pulsar]

My first game on my return

[hot moss]

Not often I see anyone do air alpha cancel into gamma
If that was intentional, good job 👍
If not, still good job 👍

[daring jolt]

What does that suppose to do exactly? Alpha cancel into gamma

[vital burrow]

anyone have good settings for cat shiggy

[dark stump]

Like Beta you cancel your endlag when the attack comes out
Unlike Beta, you can cancel it while you're in the air, so you Alpha doesn't come out when you touched the ground, and it doesn't consume your Alpha charge. This tech is mostly used for mobility.

[daring jolt]

Woah that's neat

Doesn't consume one of your alphas is nice

[vital burrow]

does anyone have cat shiggy combos

[cerulean rain]

The combos are pretty much whatever you can think of it probably works he is a combo theory character

[vital burrow]

do u have good settings for him

?

[cerulean rain]

The basic ones though are
Gamma > beta > alpha
Gamma > beta > gamma > beta (near their feet not at them) > alpha
Beta > gamma > beta (near their feet not at them) > gamma > alpha
Gamma 1 > gamma 2 > collapse hand on no guard
Gamma 1 > gamma 2 > beta on no guard
Also every move assault shig has aside from alpha is a combo starter since they all stagger or launch

I just use my normal settings that i use for every character, just use what you're comfortable with

[vital burrow]

do u have a good tuning build for him or is it just focusing on dmg

[cerulean rain]

I haven't bothered with tuning for him this season mostly been playing other characters since he feels pretty meh in the PC meta right now

Especially since they bugged his alpha to have some deadzones now in the spread hitbox that the enemy can just stand on and not take damage

[hot moss]

You can stop your beta from coming out entirely too if you gamma cancel but you have to be quick with timing if it's with air beta. Does still consume the charge though.
But it's good for more subtle escapes since you can have that lunge into dash without making your position obvious.

[robust pulsar]

It was pookie

Just didn’t expect him to be THAT close

I was intending to chase

[hot moss]

Real lol
Especially as Compress, they're usually several continents away launching their trucks pff

[robust pulsar]

EXACTLY

[hot moss]

https://youtu.be/TvR-ccaD8vo?si=k72sNwmbosKALNCo
This place has been quiet so have this match from a few days ago

[dark stump]

Sorry Nejire killed us all

[hot moss]

She needs the Hawks treatment
She doesn't have wings so just cut off her arms and legs 👍

[robust pulsar]

Counterpoint give shigi a jetpack

[steady berry]

Nah,A mini gun

[hot moss]

Both

[deep hazel]

And they say he can’t do anything

My first time playing on the switch
I’m usually on PS

[weak ice]

Switch is rlly fun

[deep hazel]

What time are you usually on ?

[weak ice]

Well currently I WAS playing basketball rn

I’m usually busy with stuff

Haven’t played for 2 seasons

[weak ice]

But imma be on Dec 26

[weak ice]

Check DMs

[trail bear]

Level up order for Catastrashiggy?

[robust pulsar]

4 4 4 max gamma

Then alpha then beta

[hot moss]

How many nicknames does that guy have lol

[nova heron]

Uhhhh
Cat Shig
Cat Shiggy
Shiggy Wiggy
Shig
Shiggy
Crusty
Crustable
Mr. Hands
Dusty
Catastrashiggy
Any more?

[hot moss]

SHIGGY WIGGY

[nova heron]

Yup

[south chasm]

Striggy

[deep flax]

Here me out this out fit

And without the cape

Also I’d love to see more there idea for outfits and not just from the show like put my man in a sweater and some pants for the winter

Like dog I found this fanart someone made and I’d kill to have an outfit like this

[hot moss]

I still want steampunk outfits in-game
And I would kill for one for him
Pirate outfits too

[south chasm]

Greatest villain costume (normal)

[analog pewter]

[analog pewter]

Before That

[robust pulsar]

I've had that one for awhile

[vapid fog]

Why does overhaul break free from shigaraki's gamma

[weak ice]

That bug had been in the game since release bro I’m still surprised they haven’t fixed it yet

[unborn blaze]

His special action has 2 modes, 1 where he heals himself and another where he knocks back a nearby enemy, it's not a bug

At least I wouldn't think it is

[hot moss]

Yeah I was about to say.
Unless they use Special on me I can grab him just fine, I don't know of any bug linked to Overhaul getting grabbed specifically

[south chasm]

He breaks free from strike touyas beta to

[vapid fog]

Touya deserves it his damage is too much and needs a nerf, red shiggy on the other hand does not

[south chasm]

Make red shiggy have a lore explanation of targeting his hands instead of his arms like a custom grab anim depending on the character

[carmine wraith]

what a good buil for yellow shigi thats cheap too

[vapid fog]

The only combo I know for red shiggy is gamma then special action

[hot moss]

Yeah but even then it's not a true combo
And tbf he's not a combo-lord of a character by any means anyway lol

But you can go melee 1, melee 1, melee 1, alpha, gamma, special.
Extra points if you get a beta in there at the start before going in for the melees, but it's tricky to pull off, you kinda just have to hope for the right moment in a 1v1.

[cedar pelican]

One of these to

[hot moss]

Both

Both is good

[half pike]

A Short guide to Maximize your movement potential with strike Shigaraki.

In case nobody knows how Shigarakis special action works. When you use It and if it hits, it will deal a little damage and give a (DEF Down) on whoever was hit by the special action. Another key thing to note is that if you are in the air it will always move forward wherever you are aiming, and You can also use any move out of it...

A thing to note about Shigarakis alpha. When you are in the air while using it Shigaraki will do a backflip and finish the move once he hits the ground. If the move is used in the air. He falls down faster than normal to finish the animation.

While using the airborne variant of the Alpha you can cancel the move into a gamma If you use it before the Animation finishes, it won't take a charge of your Alpha.

This allows you to stretch out the little movement capabilities that Shigaraki has to its fullest potential. It's kinda niche but it gives just enough movement to confuse players.

This video shows how much increased height you get from using the SA and a visual demonstration of what I just said.

You can also combo his SA with the Gamma if your opponent doesn't wake up. I have seen literally NOBODY do this in my Xbox lobbies besides me In my entire history of playing ultra rumble. I know a few number of people has mentioned it in this character discussion though 😅

I plan to make detailed guides on characters soon and I'll probably start with Strike Shigaraki Or Assault Deku. I have already started doing my research but I stopped two seasons ago... 😭

[hot moss]

And that still ain't all ☕

Good luck though with the guides

[dark stump]

Just one correction: Shigaraki doesn't fall down faster than normal when using Alpha high in the air. He falls down at the same speed like normal. If it does look like he's falling down faster, then that's just the game's natural gravity that's doing so.

I will add one thing though:
The direction you are looking vertically effects how high your Alpha jump is. The further down you look, the higher your jump is, which is useful for jumping over small fences. The further up you look the shorter your jump is, if you look directly upwards you basically gain no height. This is useful if you just want to use Alpha just for the faster fall speed, perhaps for escape or even to jump someone

[hot moss]

I was gonna say this too but wasn't sure if this was part of your "secret stash" of knowledge and didn't wanna mention it if it was pff

[half pike]

Thank you so much!! This helps greatly. I probably used a bad choice of words about doing Shigarakis alpha while in the air. But I do feel that it's slightly faster than just falling normally.

A short little test to show how long it takes to hit the ground from falling. If you are aiming downwards like you mentioned to me in this reply the fall is about the same as if you were to jump off a building. But if you are looking upwards. you fall down notably faster.

[half pike]

I'm going to need all of that secret knowledge I can get. 👀

If anybody has a tuning build that they want to share please lmk 🥹🙏

[dark stump]

Oh yeah I'm aware that Alpha increases your fall speed, I was under the impression you meant that Shigaraki's Air Alpha fall speed from a higher place (like the top of UA) is as fast or faster than if using it from a lower place (like from the top of a truck). That's my bad 😅
Also the reason you fall faster while looking upwards is because you don't spend any extra time jumping upwards with Air Alpha, so you just drop like a rock. It could also be effecting the in-game gravity somehow to make you drop at an even faster speed than usual, idk that's something I can think of testing out.

[hot moss]

I only really share what I think would genuinely benefit my Shiggy brethren like how to counter Hawks and Mirio. Other stuff, my lips are sealed. ☕

[hot moss]

Tbf all his moves make him fall faster anyway pff
But alpha is ideal since ya only use up one charge for it.

I just have a habit of going gamma to fall quickly because I just love the dive animation 💀

[south chasm]

Sure

As the future number one tomura shigaraki here’s my build

[hot moss]

Cuz I'm the current one
(Jk obviously)
But I run the same build for now
Until I get Nejire for gamma reload, Rapid Bak for gamma damage and Toga for more gamma reload (unless it's the other way around, can't remember)
And Overhaul for max HP and whatever his other thing does (also can't remember)

But as much as I love the coat it's bad. It's primarily defense which does very little, next to nothing at all to stop him getting taken own so quickly.

[south chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-omni-man-animals-i-will-burn-this-planet-down-gif-21709941

Don’t you DARE dis my goat coat shigaraki

[hot moss]

Oh I do have Bak for the first tuning slot though
Just because he suffers more without his old alpha damage. Kinda wanna bring some of it back for him, especially since one of the Rapids I mentioned brings more gamma damage anyway

And lmaooo dw it's my favorite outfit too! Just not so much in terms of stats 😅

[south chasm]

I will burn this planet to the ground

before I spend another MINUTE living among these coat HATERS!

[hot moss]

I AINT HATING
DUDE SL@YS

[south chasm]

Or should I use the league of villains suit?

[hot moss]

I don't even have that outfit yet pff
But I still prefer the Disguise one

[south chasm]

I have the outfit

I wanna know if it’s better than the overcoat

[hot moss]

Ohh I'm not sure without checking
Could be tbh

[robust pulsar]

Parrell world is amazing for him aswell

But for EVERY good build you need red dabi Ggs

[twin drum]

smash

[hot moss]

I love how nobody has questioned this

We all just agree in unified silence

[south chasm]

Questioned what?

[hot moss]

Halos comment pff

[south chasm]

True

[south chasm]

He’s hit tbh

[hot moss]

I see no lie

[vapid fog]

Is there a way to immediately kill dabi and prevent him from getting up

[south chasm]

Beta

[south chasm]

Explain dinosaur lore to me

[hot moss]

Don't even
I will yap for years and this is not the place for it 🥲

[south chasm]

If is

I want you to explain it to me

Explain it to me like I’m one of your French girls

[hot moss]

PFF

[south chasm]

You’ve been typing for so long I’m excited to read what you said

[hot moss]

They were active and flourishing animals that existed 66 million years ago and thrived through several time periods successfully. They had spent more time on Earth than humans have yet to even hope to reach.
However they faced more than one mass extinction in their years of reign with the most iconic being the asteroid impact.

Contrary to popular belief the impact didn't wipe everything out though, it was the after-effect of the collision which caused global change. The dinosaurs (and other creatures) that couldn't adapt or evolve were goners, but those that could continued to live on, but not as the dinosaurs they used to be.
Even if a raptor may now be a falcon or an eagle it was a necessity for them to change so drastically in order to continue living.

However some animals still remain mostly unchanged by evolution despite existing during the Dino times too. Such as some fish species and Crocodilians.
Guess they were just built different anyway lol

And because this is a Shiggy chat uhhhh
Have a Shiggy

[south chasm]

Wonderful yapping

Here’s a fun fact

Dinosaurs became chickens

[hot moss]

They did! But only Avian dinosaurs specifically became birds. Non-Avians didn't

In terms of which dinosaur a modern day chicken used to be there's no way for us to know exactly, but it wouldn't have been a T.rex though it's funny to imagine lol

[south chasm]

You’re so cool

[hot moss]

Thanks XD
I'm just a nerd

[south chasm]

I’m not gay but…

I’d screw shiggy tbh

Get all freaky on him

[hot moss]

LMAO
Best keep the ratings down, this is public after all

[south chasm]

I forgor

[hot moss]

Pff no worries
Just gotta be careful
Don't want ya getting into trouble

[south chasm]

Kill the bird

[hot moss]

Bird is no longer a threat to us.
The purple floating menace is the new target

[south chasm]

Made him slip on the decayed floor

Injured his back and now he has to fly like this

[hot moss]

Idk who made that wet floor sign image or why, but I love it oml

[hot moss]

LOL
It got better

[south chasm]

Disrespectful ngl

Imagine cornering a guy with cleaning supplies

[hot moss]

The ultimate threat

[south chasm]

Dabi and cat share the same weakness

Tiny spritzes of water

[south chasm]

Try again

[south chasm]

Clearly YOU don’t own an air fryer

[robust pulsar]

DAMMIT

[south chasm]

The animators wanted to get a lil freaky that day

[robust pulsar]

Who WOULDNT

[south chasm]

It’s a 16 year old

[robust pulsar]

So am I

[south chasm]

I’ve found more slander of hawks

[hot moss]

Poke the pigeon

[balmy hawk]

So for Strike Shiggy I've seen some people consistently cancel his gamma to extend combos (basically getting a hit, a stun, and no grab.)

Anyone know how to pull that off?

[south chasm]

Be silly

[balmy hawk]

that doesn't help lmao

[south chasm]

I’m sorry support dabi but I can’t help

[balmy hawk]

then don't weigh in to answer my question lmao

[south chasm]

No need to harsh yknow

[balmy hawk]

If someone's coming here for help and you answer with a troll answer, you're going to be dismissed man

[south chasm]

:3

[dark stump]

How do you know if they're doing it on purpose?
The grab naturally has a way smaller chance of working as intended if your ping is higher than average, and will do that let-go thing you're talking about, or do the bug where you carry them in your hand. At high ping it's borderline impossible to do an intended grab and will usually do the carry glitch.
Since I play on low ping I have no knowledge of if there's any tech that triggers it. Perhaps players of very high ping have a tech to swap between the carry or the let-go tech as they please, but I don't know of it.

There are scenarios where on low ping it's easy to predict if it's a cancel or a grab though, and I can list them:

• If the opponent is moving too fast it will do a cancel, but on higher speeds note they will be out of melee range, but always in Special Action range
• The carry glitch consistently occurs when the opponent is at the furthest possible grab distance. This is obviously really hard and is not practical whatsoever.

So BASICALLY in low ping, you're better off trying to connect a grab like normal, because even if you can predict a grab cancel they will be out of your range to do a good combo.

[south chasm]

I’m gonna surpass you

[dark stump]

good luck

even the fact that you play Strike Shiggy is a win in my book

[south chasm]

Yeah since it’s a 2 part grab it kinda breaks sometimes

Like so many times it’s not funny

[balmy hawk]

consistent clips of him hitting it

[south chasm]

Show us some

We need to analyze it

[dark stump]

I really just suspect it's higher ping

[balmy hawk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeroUltraRumble/comments/1hhaedm/winning_against_two_nejires/

The gamma cancel happens at 2:12 and this is not the only time he's done this

[dark stump]

I swapped to JP servers once and had that happen to me

[south chasm]

Sonic the hedgehog is a %#^#* mother}%^*{#

[balmy hawk]

so he cancels his beta, that's fine, but as he passes her he gets a hit frame

[south chasm]

What’s happening is because of the grab being a 2 parter

He’s hitting the first part but not the second part

Aka the punch but not the grab

But continuing to go forward instead of slightly turning to catch them

[balmy hawk]

I tried to lab that split but it always went right into grab

[south chasm]

Hope that helped

[balmy hawk]

def puts me on the right track

[dark stump]

What other times has it happened?

[south chasm]

What do ya think of my explanation?

[dark stump]

imma be honest here

I very much think it was unintentional

it's just an improvised combo

[south chasm]

I think my explanation is very in depth ngl

[dark stump]

I get how it looks like they did it intentionally, but picking up the cues is just part of a lot of experience

[south chasm]

Cool now take this cute duck image

[balmy hawk]

i was in game so I couldn't respond

but I've seen them accomplish it multiple times on the reddit over time

just couldn't go through posts

[south chasm]

But continuing to run straight forward

That’s how

[dark stump]

I'd love if there was a way to cancel it but I'm really under the impression the it's either done unintentionally or there's a trick to doing it with lag

[balmy hawk]

in the past, people told me there was shigi tech that was inconsistent and then > I made it consistent lmao

[south chasm]

My guess is

[dark stump]

Which one?

[south chasm]

continuing to go forward

[balmy hawk]

the physics on his special action and exactly how they work

so like, there's his SA boosting for mobility, obviously

[dark stump]

you mean the extra height and distance stuff?

[south chasm]

Slightly

[balmy hawk]

but nowhere did I find anyone actively breaking it down and everyone would just tell me "it's inconsistent if not on controller"

[dark stump]

I see

[balmy hawk]

so I went and labbed it and figured it out and it is absolutely consistent it just requires more precise inputs than most PC players were doing lol

[south chasm]

Hold up since you’re the number one shiggy I got a question

[dark stump]

Short answer: It's consistent on every platform

[balmy hawk]

I'm not. I'm the #1 tech dabi XD

[south chasm]

Why does shiggy have those red tubes on his hands

[south chasm]

Wrong person

[balmy hawk]

yes. It's consistent, but nobody in the PC shiggy community at the time could articulate how or why, so I went and figured it out and shared it in some of the other MHUR discord

[dark stump]

you mean the jump hold a direction and then special action thing?

[balmy hawk]

yep

[dark stump]

yeah I know of that lol

[balmy hawk]

well sure

but >at the time is the key wording lol

[dark stump]

I don't hold my title for no reason I'm just saying 🤷

[balmy hawk]

nah I believe you I believe you

same reason I hold mine lmao

[dark stump]

btw did you make it into a video guide or was it a text explanation?

if it's video I'd like to see it in DMs I'm curious

[balmy hawk]

will answer after game

[dark stump]

You know I heard you are the labbing king after all so I don't doubt ya either

[south chasm]

Why does shiggy got the red tubes

[dark stump]

I have no idea what you're talking about

[south chasm]

The red tubes

[dark stump]

is it even in the game

[south chasm]

Don’t question top right

[dark stump]

That's not in the game

not my field

[south chasm]

I got a question

What players crash out more shigarakis or all for ones

[dark stump]

Oh yeah I didn't catch what you meant by this message, I was referring to the grab releasing like that being inconsistent

There's 2 parts of Gamma: The charge and the grab

• The charge: Does guard damage, when this hits it attempts to transition into...
• The grab: Does health An area around Shigaraki's hand will have a grab effect on it, which usually works. Even in range it's inconsistent. Most of the time if your grab animation is far away from the opponent (like in the clip) it'll not work and do the let-go thing, but even in that distance the opponent can just teleport to my hand. It's that inconsistent. Also note that you can release the Gamma button to manually grab and skip the whole Charge hitbox --> Grab transition inconsistency. I do it manually a lot when I have a feeling I can hit it and the grab might not work as intended otherwise.

[balmy hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1226563908471357581/1294059436712656928/MHUR_2024-10-10_15-09-06.mp4?ex=677b0344&is=6779b1c4&hm=ed35c8ad0d096b68258b2a7773ee596d6e90e3275323a72e0880da9b77f2eade&

Tech 1 (classic SA boost)

Tech 2 (Gamma Miss Consistently)

tech 1 is about momentum when activating SA, tech 2 is about spacing

if someone could find specific setups into the spacing, it would be useful. AS is, it's "if I have the setup, this is a potential combo extender" cuz the hitstun is massive

[south chasm]

Well if you want to include the chard then it’s actually 3 parts

The rush to the person

The first tick of shield damage

Then the actual grab

[south chasm]

Ah yes just barely

Legal

That’s very weird

You can’t say “ah yes just bar e ly legal”

But you can say each word separately

[hot moss]

On PC 😏

[hot moss]

Same

[jagged verge]

If someone made a shig guied with every single tech and all I'd play.
Watched some vid a while ago and it was nutty, I just don't know the tech and too lazy to learn each 1 by 1.
It's not even much

Like shig gamma againts wall to bait ida beta then turn to grab after armoring through. He legit is fun even in this meta but I'm buns

[hot moss]

Real he is a lotta fun.

I know all the tech but I can't make a guide on it. That would require vocal work, which uh.. no lol
Plus tbf some of the tech is just harder for me to pull off because of input delay on my controller's part. I'd really need a better system to pull things off a lot more smoothly.

[jagged verge]

How bout typing. Or voice changer

What if I made a cem guied to trade 🥲

[hot moss]

People wouldn't really be into a guide vid that's all just text only I don't think, and currently I don't have any voice changer tools.

Also cem guide?

[dark stump]

He's like, the best Cementoss on PC I know

[hot moss]

Cementoss. Eeeeeeeeeh

[jagged verge]

i would. You dont need much text to show tech and combos. Maybe applied knowledge.

i get it though. that takes work lol

[hot moss]

Maybe some day, but there's plenty of other people who would make better guides than I could 😅

[balmy hawk]

I have long debated making strike shiggy and tech Dabi guides lmao

Cuz that's twice now I've been presented with "this tech isn't consistent so it isn't worth labbing/knowing" only to find a consistent application (for shiggy) and I know the Tech Dabi title is mine on PC at least.

Yeah Kaje's like top 3 Cementoss. Him and uh. Licaon2004?

[south chasm]

Tell me the techs and I’ll make a video on it

[robust pulsar]

Fellow top shigi?

[hot moss]

Nah, they're mid lol

[jagged verge]

Just made mine. It's sloppy af but if u put the knowledge then that's all that's needed.

[jagged verge]

Point wise prolly. Solo q wise top 1 whole wide world !

[balmy hawk]

I should make a tech dabi guide at some point lmao

[unborn blaze]

Please do 🙏

[jagged verge]

I'm trying to fund a shig montage video of some dude.

I rememeber he did phantom gamma grab on top of ua towers into a combo. Forgot who it was, prolly console prolly top 3 shig

[dark stump]

This one right

[jagged verge]

u had it on deck. thats the name, prolly the vid . will watch, ty

[dark stump]

what you're talking about is at the very end btw

[jagged verge]

yea

was so nutty

he needs to post on utube

[hot moss]

I don't really get what's crazy about it.
The combo was cool but the grab whiff wouldn't have been intentional, he was just quick to follow-up on it.

[jagged verge]

u coping or what

[hot moss]

Wdym?

[jagged verge]

he easily culda done that intentional

he is a 1 trick lol

unless thats not how u wiff grab idk

and got lucky

he clealry knows about it though imo

did it twice

[hot moss]

If he could easily do it intentionally wouldn't that make it even less crazy for him to pull off? Pff

Fr though I've had the same thing occur many times, all Shiggys do, but I'm usually not quick enough to follow up with anything besides going into the second gamma.
He's got quick reflexes to make the most of a whiff when it occurs.

From what I've seen there's no way (at least on console) to intentionally whiff a grab, it just happens from time to time due to things like lag and such.

[dark stump]

I digress

[jagged verge]

pc i think u can do. and anyways that was the first time i seen that applied. nothing new to shig players but it looked hella cool

[dark stump]

He may have done it intentionally but you can easily get the same results if you don't do it intentionally either

[jagged verge]

that looks like the only tod he can do with no i frames. i dont think so lol

i dont see how

besides beta/alpha into slow melees

[dark stump]

You mean you think it's true?

[jagged verge]

yes lol

[dark stump]

It isn't

at least on guard

[jagged verge]

what part can u roll

[dark stump]

you see the Nejire rolled the first melee

it's not true

[jagged verge]

o didnt even notice that

so on hp its true.

[dark stump]

yep

[jagged verge]

thats prolly why coffee thought it was just ok lol

[dark stump]

oh shoot you in my game LOL

[jagged verge]

i spare gground dwellers, so if ur on shig ur lucky lol

but im going for combo vid so double luck

[hot moss]

Tbf taking out Nejires is always the most impressive thing

[balmy hawk]

I literally posted consistent phantom grab tech and that's what started this convo lmao

I fully believe there's some cracked shiggy who has it perfect

[hot moss]

That's why I said (at least on console) pff
I know for a fact it can't be done consistently on PS.
PC is a different world

[balmy hawk]

Ah gotchu gotchu

[south chasm]

I was about to say “why didn’t you use your special action to combo extend after gamma” but then I realized it isn’t always a guaranteed hit

[hot moss]

She fast recovered too quickly anyway to do it straight after gamma.
The wakeup Special was a better call there.

(Plus the gameplay is from someone else lol)

[south chasm]

Bro what are these people doing in the ps party

[hot moss]

No clue and I wouldn't want to be part of it lol

[south chasm]

Why can’t they just be normal!?

[robust pulsar]

Phantom grab is when you grab but they are only stunned yea?

[hot moss]

Yeah

[robust pulsar]

Too busy to cut this clip down

But let it send

I believe once you reach a certain "stun" value on alphas it bugs the grab into only reseting the enemy into that state as the grab is a instant hard knockdown once complete hence once you hit them with enough alphas/beta hits it bugs them into only standing still

I could be completely wrong but that is my theory

[hot moss]

I think I agree that happens like that, but it's not entirely consistent. Just based on my own experience I've definitely gone ham on people with alphas and beta yet still grabbed them just fine too amidst it all, but I've also had the "phantom grab" occur as well from doing it sometimes.

[hot moss]

No more Nejires.

[south chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/wanda-gif-20652705

“No more mutants.”

[cerulean meteor]

who is that

[dark stump]

hmm that Yellow Deku looks...familiar

[cerulean meteor]

He sounds really good

[south chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-nom-cats-white-cat-black-cat-gif-329830397201811161

So good

[cerulean meteor]

I agree

He is my goat

[jagged verge]

what tuning u strike shiggs going

[dark stump]

Wall Run

other than that maybe Aizawa or Kendo

[jagged verge]

any links to a combo vid and things? i really want a guide but none exist or ez to find

[dark stump]

None have been made yet

There was 1 guide for Air Special Action but it isn't good

I'm sure you've seen that one

[jagged verge]

dang. Well you know a quick list of usefull combos? all i really need

like melle 1 2 into gamma works on hp but on shield?

[dark stump]

Yep

Melee 1 to Gamma works on both tho

[jagged verge]

aight. thats pretty much his only good combo besised gamma wiff into melee thigns

i assume

idk bout air melee

[dark stump]

Yeah Shiggy has like no combo game lol

Even Melee --> Alpha --> Gamma is never actually true

[south chasm]

Building

Alpha beta gamma special action

[hot moss]

You don't wanna know 🥲

[dark stump]

True combos:

SA = Special Action

On guard:

• Melee 12SA
• Melee 1SA
• Air Melee --> Melee 123/12SA/1SA
• Air Melee --> SA
• Air Melee --> Melee 1 --> Melee 1 --> Gamma
• Melee 1 --> Melee 1 --> Melee 1 --> Melee 1 --> Gamma (the timing for each melee is pretty tight, but it's true and does 100-130 guard damage depending on your Gamma level)
• Melee 1 --> Melee 1 --> Melee 123/12SA/1SA
• Gamma whiff --> Gamma

On Health:

• Every combo I mentioned above
• Melee 12 --> Melee 12 --> Gamma (You can insert Gamma whiff anytime before Gamma, even starting the combo with it)
• Gamma whiff to start a melee combo

Untrue Combos

In order of how worth it is to go for

• Gamma whiff to start a melee combo (on guard, this will actually be true but only if the opponent is close to you and slightly in the air so they can't dodge)
• Melee 1/12 --> Alpha --> Gamma (on health, Alpha can be right before Gamma in any of the melee combos above. Alpha --> Gamma is never a true combo, but the time the opponent has to act when doing it at the fastest possible moment is very tight so you'd get it quite a good amount of times if you're good. DO NOT DO THIS ON GUARD.)
• Melee 12 --> Melee 12 --> Gamma (on guard, the time window that the opponent gets to act is very small but it's big enough for them to slip out of it more than 50% of the time, I think. It's not true so I never bother to do it.)
• Gamma --> Grounded SA (only works if the opponent doesn't do an air wakeup, and even then it'll work like 50% of the time)

These are all the ones I can remember off the top of my head

Most of these are repetetive, again, this character has basically no combo game

[jagged verge]

ty!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dark stump]

Pls don't try going for combos tho, you'll get infinitely better results when just playing him smart and to his strengths. Combos should only be touched on once you got not much else to improve imo

[hot moss]

Yeah
Save the gamma -> SA magic to yours truly 👍

Also air melee, when I was in Training with Honoured that wasn't able to combo with anything, not even ground melee it was just a hard knockdown on guard or health. It might've just been one of Training modes annoying unreliabilities at that time.

[dark stump]

Oh shoot I should mention, Air melee only comboes if you are close to the ground

I'm talking basically touching the ground, but air melee is still active

[hot moss]

Ah so it's more finicky like that

[dark stump]

it's just tight like a lot of the other comboes

[hot moss]

I haven't used air melee in ages since Special tracking is just better so I couldn't remember if it was supposed to allow for combos or just knockdown pff

[cerulean meteor]

Foward jump for now is just filler until I figure out what I want

[hot moss]

If they make it so that dash speed actually does anything, go for one of those lol

[south chasm]

Just do stuff and you’ll win (probably)

[hot moss]

Not if you're against smart players

[south chasm]

It does for some reason

[hot moss]

If you've succefully locked down a building with good teammates then you can stand more chance to kinda go ham and it'll be fatal for those who who enter, otherwise you can't really do stuff without a thought and expect it to work against players that know what they're doing.

[cerulean meteor]

They weren’t smart

[south chasm]

Wanna play Roblox forsaken with me?

[cerulean meteor]

It would be an honour

Lil bro I was joking

😭😭

Idek what that is

[south chasm]

Dang

[cerulean meteor]

My bad gang I didn’t know you’d take it seriously

[south chasm]

Then why would I bother asking the question

[cerulean meteor]

Comedic effect

[south chasm]

How would it be comedic for me to ask the question?

[cerulean meteor]

Oh brother

Nvm

[cobalt thicket]

SOMEONE 1V1 ME PLEASE!!! 🙏🙏😭😭

on pc

I need the practice

yellow shigi plz

[thin isle]

how it feels to get a hawks/nejire as striker shigaraki:

[void temple]

Gotta love playing the game. Playing Strike Shigaraki in Teams Unranked and had two Strike Kirishimas and Nejire’s teaming to kill me while I barely had levels

[hot moss]

Idky teaming happens in Trios.
Solos is bad enough but trios is just... why?

[thin isle]

why not

3 trio ganging on you is the best

||the sukuna treatment||

[hot moss]

🥲

[robust pulsar]

Hit shigi domain

[thin isle]

Nejire got simple domaim

Domain

(Special action and gamma)

[half pike]

@primal copper

[primal copper]

[jagged verge]

about his gamma tech wiffing, i know certain things happen differently depending on what your hz setting is. On cementos on max beta, if u look straight up, you wont stand on top of the beta at 60hz. but on 120hz you do.

might be something there

[hot moss]

Hz?

[dark stump]

frame rate

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/saturday-shigaraki-my-hero-academia-mha-gif-2815349654891493537

[hot moss]

The boi!
A little late though smh

[weak ice]

I broke bakugo’s ankles😃

[hot moss]

TREE SHIGGY
(I always call anyone wearing that green coat Tree Shiggy hehe)
Also bro needs new ankles

[hollow salmon]

this is strike shigi right?

[dark stump]

Yep!

I don't have Assault nor do I want to play him.

[hollow salmon]

mhm okay

why tho

you dont like playing him?

[dark stump]

yeah I don't like his gameplay

[hollow salmon]

mhm get that

for me strike shigi is fun but i dont like losing every game xd

i assume you play him only on UA?

[dark stump]

yeah that's fair

[dark stump]

if I have a premade I'll play on USJ

or if I just feel like it

the game that made me hit ace with Shiggy was actually on USJ

I played only Strike Shiggy in ranked this season and only did Solo Queue

as a challenge and I got Ace 2 days ago

[hollow salmon]

oh ok nice xd

[hot moss]

USJ is supposedly the easier map to rank up in at higher ranks because not many high-skilled players want to play on it.

Especially at late Expert levels. People being so close to Ace don't want to risk losing points by playing on a bad map, so there's more chance you'd have an easier time going USJ at that point than UA lol

On PS it's definitely something I've noticed with Expert-Ace lobbies. They feel more like Pro lobbies on USJ quite often.

[robust pulsar]

Off topic but

For my shig community

[hollow salmon]

whats ur rank?

im playing rivals for like 3 weeks and it is still fun

we can play some games if you want to

which tuning would fit yellow shigi?

[robust pulsar]

Plat 2 rn

[hollow salmon]

oh okay

i am silver atm

[robust pulsar]

You got this keep grinding king

[weak ice]

What’s the best tuning for assault shiggy

Because I be using shiggy with ZERO tuning

[hollow salmon]

i just asked the same

ill wait for new season

maybe we get some changes

[weak ice]

FOR SHIGARAKI

[dark stump]

W or L

[robust pulsar]

W

[weak ice]

Huge W

[hot moss]

L

[weak ice]

Shigaraki game play

[hot moss]

He just needs a little more to the outfit. Bros just wearing a bodysuit, doesn't even get a neat mask or snazzy jacket like the others

[jagged flame]

Yeah

Doesn't have the "Cyberpunk" aesthetic

[raw hatch]

best tuning for strike shigi?

[hot moss]

Depends on what you want for him

[raw hatch]

what if buff everything on gamma and hp attack can i 2 grab kill?

[raw hatch]

survivabilty

[hot moss]

You can 2-shot Rapids

And 2-shot 300hp characters with attack cards and strike teammates too

For survivability reload would be good, especially on gamma as his primary method of escape. Revenge Support, Revenge Assault, Wall Runner, Sisterly Disposition are all good for survivability purposes too.

Defensive builds don't really do anything so I wouldn't say it's worth going for a full defense tuning, just go for reload and HP increase and whichever Special tuning you think would suit your playstyle.
No matter what Strike Shiggy will never be tanky

[raw hatch]

is this not good?

[hot moss]

Yeah it is

[weak ice]

💀

wtf when did it reduce so much dmg

[raw hatch]

yeah its insane

[weak ice]

Someone explain this to me RN

[weak ice]

Back then it didn’t do this much

The difference between lvl 5-6is wild

[raw hatch]

im new i watched yt to explain the tuning system and that pop out

[weak ice]

Okay unmmm

The best for strike shigaraki is revenge assault with revenge strike

The dmg is insane

[raw hatch]

im not new i just didnt play along time since release i think

[weak ice]

Dw ik

You talked in the main chat before

[raw hatch]

thank you guys for the tips tho

i thought this game was dead but nah

[weak ice]

Nah we getting bigger

[raw hatch]

wait what is that

[hot moss]

He can't use Revenge Strike since that's his own thing lol

[weak ice]

Bruh what

No way

You joking

[hot moss]

Characters can't use their own Special Tuning

[weak ice]

Imma crash out

https://tenor.com/view/goku-dancing-gif-21781042

[raw hatch]

what is revenge support

[weak ice]

You get hp while you’re being attacked d

[raw hatch]

and sisterly disposition?

[weak ice]

Umm I don’t remember actually

Let me check

[raw hatch]

isnt that the same as a green card

[weak ice]

Yes

But you don’t waste a green card

[weak ice]

You get more defense after you hit melee

Basically useless

It’s rare to hit melee in this game

Only person it’s common for is Aizawa and tech Dabi

[raw hatch]

especially with shigi

[weak ice]

Yeah

[raw hatch]

or does the special action count?

after grab you can hit with the special action

[weak ice]

Some ppl say it’s true but I don’t think so

[hot moss]

Sisterly Dispostion is broken in this game wdym?
You do need to land the melee but with Shig that's not difficult at all

[raw hatch]

it is

[weak ice]

With Aizawa yes with tech Dabi yes

[hot moss]

Also the special action after grab isn't true, but it can still be pulled of

*off

[weak ice]

Tell me in 1-10 matches how many times you use sister disposition

I personally don’t use it

Defense after hitting melee ?? Yeah not my thing

I focus on dmg

[hot moss]

I don't personally run it because there's other things I'd go for, but Sisterly is known to be stupid with how little damage you take.

[weak ice]

To run it you should honestly play a different character

IMO but @raw hatch you choose what’s the best for you were just giving advice here

In the end we’re all shiggy players

[hot moss]

I do agree there's better options for Shig than the Sisterly Disposition, but him landing melee isn't hard. Usually if I jump beta at someone and they start panic rolling they're well within range for melee that can also lead to a good combo, or if I whiff a gamma grab, I'd still be right next to them to melee.
But it does depend on playstyle

It's mainly good for him because of how quickly he can just be shredded, any damage reduction on him is helpful.

[weak ice]

Yeah but revenge assault is the way to go imo

[raw hatch]

are there any melee combos for the most amount of damage?

[hot moss]

Yeah that's good too.
The outfit I use doesn't have Assault slots for Special Tuning tho so I use Revenge Support

[weak ice]

M1 spam 3x then gamma

Wait no I’m wrong

[hot moss]

Melee 1, melee 1, melee 1, melee 1, alpha, gamma, special
Not a true combo but if landed is nasty af

Bonus points if you get a beta in there at the very start

[weak ice]

You can only do it to 4x I think

The 5th will knock them down

[hot moss]

Yeah I know that's why I only said it 4 times lol

[weak ice]

Bro I miss counted I saw 5 ;-;

Im not thinking straight

I just woke up 😭

[hot moss]

Nah you're good dw 👍

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-dancing-gif-21781042

[raw hatch]

thx for the advices😭🙏

[weak ice]

Np also question what’s your playstyle with him

Agressive, passive or just balanced

[raw hatch]

playing with walls i concentrate to have wallsnear me

[weak ice]

Ahh okay

You like in-door fighting

[raw hatch]

😏

[hot moss]

Close quarters is his specialty after all

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-breakdown-jujutsu-kaisen-yuji-jjk-anime-yuji-itadori-gif-13512994059937416865

Don’t even

[raw hatch]

yess

[weak ice]

Me as assault shigaraki

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-15505006

Alpha is so funny to hit on top of a building

People are running and jump questioning where I am

[raw hatch]

how you guys get that shiggy tag on your names

[weak ice]

Go to #roles then press on the shigaraki icon

[raw hatch]

uo

thx

[jagged flame]

80% is insane

[thin isle]

is this considered as bullying strike shiggy for no air mobility?

[scenic temple]

Anyone else have a glitch where your red shigaraki teammates alpha hurts you cuz i took like 200 damage before i noticed it was hurting me

I dont know what caused it exactly but there's that lol

[north pollen]

No one else does stop lying for clout

[hot moss]

I just posted something like that in the clip channel...

Not on a teammate but randomly damaging people I'm nowhere near. Got a free kill tho so... yay?

[scenic temple]

Yeah I noticed that happening with kurogiri too idk if it's universal or what but it's kinda dumb

[raw hatch]

yo guys i tought about a new combo like the new denki special passive is insane if i understand it correctly

imagine you just spam your alpha and beta and he can do nothing

take all that dmg

that with 50% pu dmg up would be ridiculous

[raw hatch]

its 20% sry for the misinformation

[cerulean meteor]

That’s beyond incorrect btw

[cobalt thicket]

fr melee is so underrated for some reason. I've only just picked up shigi but his melee is clearly a great asset (Like Kendo, Hawks, etc.)

[cerulean meteor]

Mt lady hawks kendo deku

You can also chain air melee as compress

[nova heron]

Twice also got a lethal melee

Getting put into that melee loop is a nightmare

[dark stump]

nah Shiggy melee is terrible (I'm gatekeeping 🤭)

[hot moss]

Absolutely worthless totally mhm

[raw hatch]

where can you chain shiggis melees is it even possible?

[long python]

4 melle then a grab

For strike shiggy

[hot moss]

That's the most basic one yeah

[dark stump]

If you try on GP you can but it's very tight, on HP it's a lot easier and very worth going for in a 1v1

[balmy hawk]

Red shiggy, final fight was vs Nejire and Mirio, no joke. Proud of this one.

screenshot didn't send oops

in game

will send after

strike shiggy this season tho

[hot moss]

Agreed

[robust pulsar]

Not played this season how’s new map for shig

[hot moss]

Laggy (Maxed Strike Shiggy does make it worse for other players) but it's a haven for him

Assault idk, I've not been seeing many there which is probably a bad sign for em

[trail falcon]

should i get PU Turbo instead of GP sucker feel like it be more benefical

[raw hatch]

i was thinking about doing a red shigi with gp sucker how is you experience with gp sucker?

[raw hatch]

crushing pu charge better tho red baku up to 20%

[balmy hawk]

Wall Runner

You should do Wall Runner lmao

[dark stump]

Do Wall Runner and keep these techs in mind
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233263002749239437/1332814303618928652/video-output-0BA32418-154A-4E5D-B21D-1F15F0E5D895.mp4

[trail falcon]

Wall runner if red honestly

[balmy hawk]

got my first 10k in ranked on strike shig wooo

[dark stump]

23 team KOs...

[balmy hawk]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah we cooked

[past urchin]

[weak ice]

Hello there

[past urchin]

hello

[hot moss]

For my brethren

[jagged flame]

[dreamy storm]

Shigaraki tings

[dark stump]

The real question is: or ?

[dreamy storm]

Strike, I wouldve definitely had less damage with assault

My damage was that high bc everybody and their mother kept flying away when they got low

[digital flume]

Yeah for me strike shiggy only has trouble with movement cuz if he had better movement then oml

[hot moss]

World's most passive Ranked lobby where they don't all continue fighting at 1hp pff

[dreamy storm]

Ye playstation on average is very end game heavy

There can be 10 people who got ko'd that match, 8 teams with all members will be alive in the second to last zone

[hot moss]

100% real
That's the case for most of my matches pf

[past urchin]

is there a way to make red shigi grab not land consisntely

[hot moss]

It usually doesn't anyway pff

But if you mean intentional whiffing not that I know of

[past urchin]

ripp yeah whiffing it

[raw hatch]

yo guys i just hit a melee after the gamma grab

[hot moss]

Against a wall?

[raw hatch]

no i throwed him and than jump meleed him

[hot moss]

That doesn't really work unless it was the Special. Melee doesn't have the range and the endlag of the throw is too long

[grand mantle]

Don't know how I didn't get the toga kill

[hot moss]

Either Compress got her with a truck at the last second or you got that kill feed I've experienced too.
You get a kill but game decides someone else got it.

[grand mantle]

It did me like that a couple of times

[raw hatch]

yeah i should have clipped that

[hollow salmon]

@dark stump which tunings are good for red shigi?

i only got the cyperpunk skins

[hot moss]

Depends on what you want to prioritise with him

The Cyberpunk outfits are a good start

[hollow salmon]

i like to play with beta

atm i go for alpha 4 and max beta

i think double red is not bad on cyperpunk

when new denki comes out

you could play this as well for red shigi

[hot moss]

Yeah you don't even need to max alpha since the range doesn't really increase, just damage, so I do the same of alpha 4, beta max.
Double red would definitely be ideal for him.
Double purple too though can be good.

[past urchin]

yellow and red is nice too 😩

[hollow salmon]

if i could chose i would take at least wall runner

second slot aizawa or something else

i have so fun playing red shigi rn

[balmy hawk]

I adore red shigi

been a blast playing him this season

I swap between two sets. I do the classic shirtless (Heat) for Wall Runner + Red Tuning of Choice as well as Cyberpunk (Purple) for a full cooldown set that is meant to special action as mobility more often

Revenge Technical + AFO lol

[hot moss]

He has seen a boost in popularity this season most definitely, it's good to see even if he'll still never be meta.

Still want a PUR outfit that runs Rapid Hero and Technical Hero both. The build I run is... meh. It's not the worst but defence doesn't do anything lol

[past urchin]

hows revenge techinacal on red shigi this intrigues me

[balmy hawk]

fun

basically means infinite alphas

[balmy hawk]

rapid plus technical will probably be his BiS

[hot moss]

Yeah
Or Spiral Leap for extra mobility, but purple Denkis would be strong too. Either would be what I'd go for alongside Wall Run

[past urchin]

hmm ok i might try it one day then

[marble spruce]

how good is the ranked rewards skins for tuning on both shiggys? (mainly assault). i never got a pur for him, always was not playing when his skins were available.

[hot moss]

Very good. PUR outfits always allow you to level up more than lower Rarity outfits.

But some of his PUR outfits are on gacha not Ranked rewards.
Only Cyberpunk is right now.

And yeah they're good for either Shiggy

[marble spruce]

awesome, what special tunings are typically good for him?

[hot moss]

I'm not sure for Assault since I don't use him but for Strike Shiggy mobility-focused tuning as well as survivability focused tuning
(Revenge Support, Sisterly Disposition, etc) are good

He doesn't necessarily need attack-based tuning but it doesn't hurt if you really wanna do some damage and play aggressively.

Things to strengthen his weak points are what I personally go for

[marble spruce]

i see

thank you very much, i will be utilizing this

[hollow salmon]

can anyone explain me the red shiggy movement

i saw some clips in the past

does it still work?

[hot moss]

Yeah it still works.
The most basic is jump, air special for added vertical height. Have to be looking straight up for it.

Again that's just the most basic.

[hollow salmon]

oh okay

thats cool

so you can try this + beta to get higher as well?

[hot moss]

You can but beta is better for covering width of distance, not so much height

[dark stump]

Oh yeah sorry for not replying, but the others have pretty much said everything I would have.

The Cyberpunk skins don't have good Special TUNING slots for Red Shiggy so you're out of luck there lol.
You can use default Cyberpunk and use as many Alpha Damage+ as you can. For the Special slots they're both technical so you can do Aizawa and Dabi/Toga, or if you would like to do more movement you can do replace Aizawa with Nejire.
Nejire is very good on Strike Shigaraki because all of his skills give him such a fast fall speed, so you can minimize your airtime with him so much easier than most characters.

[balmy hawk]

yeah this is the Cyberpunk Strike Shig set

And the Heat skin is kinda the standard for some of the top tier shiggies
(they usually swap the Bakugo or Endeavor slot with Redku and vice versa. Kota Finder is personal preference.)

both are fun tbh

Aizawa > Nejire if you want to play to your strengths. Nejire > Aizawa if you want to cover your weaknesses. I think Strike Shiggy's mobility is already way better than most give it credit for but it's a rapid meta so I just prefer to play it safe w/ Nejire when I run that set

[hollow salmon]

Mhm okay

Im gonna test nejire

Thanks

[jagged flame]

Why use AFO tuning?

[past urchin]

what do u think of crushing pu/red drive

[dark stump]

Special Action usually takes 5 seconds to reload, with AFO it takes 1 second
that's only if you get a DOWN tho, and it lasts for 20 seconds at max
but a Shigaraki doing Special Action every second can be menacing

[hot moss]

Red drive is pretty useless

[past urchin]

red drive works for me sometimes to help buy time when im caught out 😩

but sisterly is sadly just better

[hot moss]

Real

[past urchin]

idk a good red slot to use rn 😭

[hot moss]

Idk how long mine takes to cooldown, definitely quicker than 5 seconds tho

[past urchin]

cuz i also use heat but i for the life of me dont want to use kota finder 😭

[hot moss]

There's not many that are useful for him rn tbh. Crushing PU isn't bad tho. Nor is resist stun. PU intensified can be okay but obviously it shortens duration.

[past urchin]

true that 🤔

just very niche which sucks

maybe when new denki is here i use resist shock

[hot moss]

Been useful enough for me currently since Denki is a common sight in Ranked lobbies

[past urchin]

hmm ok

[jagged verge]

believe it or not, sisterly.
theres wall run sisterly
and sisterly cementoss
you will get more melees than you think. And you can always just go mt ldy if all else fails but I think those are the best considering more and more people are going for melees, so they will try to also hit you thus giving u more chances to sisterly

there arnt many people who sshoulnt go it. its just bananas and if you or your team gets a down, thats 30 seconds of not dying most likely

its regarded strong. And shig is weak so he is the few characters that aint cringe for going it

sisterly zawa would be good if it existed as well since zawa goes hard when you got lvls on beta and can big pot during

can even pop minis when ur alpha out

[past urchin]

yeah wall runner and sisterly is a build i lowkey might build

after running wall runner i never wanna take it off now 😭

[hollow salmon]

Sadly i dont have the pur skins

[raw hatch]

which is better tho 20 min wall runner or 30 sec sisterly disposition which one to focus to get on lvl 11?

and is gp sucker and hp sucker good on red shiggy?

[hot moss]

Sisterly is overpowered so it's always going to be strong but only if you're good at landing melees frequently, otherwise wall run is ideal for the mobility.

And GP and HP sucker are also good but there's better choices for Red Shiggy than those. I personally wouldn't use either.

[raw hatch]

yeah if i could do wall runner and sisterly what to prefer to get to lvl 11?

[past urchin]

easily sisterly

[raw hatch]

but from lvl 10 to lvl 11 is 5min more wall runner and and sisterly is 5 sec more

[hot moss]

That just depends on your personal playstyle, if you'd rather be tankier or faster

[past urchin]

^ me personally i'd go for more sisterly 😩

[jagged flame]

They should nerf it

I think it's 50% dmg reduction

[hot moss]

They definitely should nerf it. There is no reason my attacks should only being doing 8 damage.

Idk if it's 50% or 80% reduction

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/jc86qm

[hot moss]

End circle = best circle

You can go the whole game with no kills then when the circle is small enough you can just collect them like Pokemon hehe

[jagged flame]

Been using him more on this map

[hot moss]

I wish I could but the lag makes it far too hard most of the time. Especially with other Strike Shiggys in the lobby.
And I'm on PS4 not PS5 so my console is old as it is :')

[jagged flame]

I play on ps5

Still get lag spikes on the new map

[hot moss]

I hear Switch has it the worst

[marble spruce]

insane kills

[unborn blaze]

Nahhh it's not bad /s

[hollow salmon]

personally i would go for wallrunner

but tbh it doesnt matter that much

i didnt test sisterly on shiggy but i dont think you proc it that often anyway

[hot moss]

Landing melees with Shig is easy but he's not the kind of character you want to try and fish for those melees with.

[cerulean meteor]

Lvl 11 lasts 30 seconds

[hollow salmon]

oh yeah i forgot

so basically wall runner > sisterly lvl 11

5 seconds over 6 min longer duration is not worth

you could say 14 minutes is basically the whole game

but not every time

i guess

[true plover]

Thoughts on these stats for a newbie at the game?

Hard to feel like if I did any good or not lol

[dark stump]

Strike or Assault?

Either way those are really good stats lol

[true plover]

Strike

I dont have assault

[hot moss]

Pretty good 👍

[raw hatch]

how to jump really high to right or left i see some people do that?

[past urchin]

Look up special action then alpha

[cerulean meteor]

Make sure you look down when you alpha though if you want like 0.1 more seconds air time

[modern cypress]

whats a good build for assault shiggy

[raw hatch]

i mean with the wall runner tech😭💀

[raw hatch]

like that but just to the right or left

[past urchin]

o no idea then 😭

[jagged flame]

Is gamma into special action guaranteed with assault shiggy?

[raw hatch]

red shiggy?

[cerulean rain]

If you mean the dash part only, yeah as long as you're close.
If you mean the shockwave from holding gamma, they have to be on hp. You can also land beta or alpha after the hold gamma shockwave if they're on hp

[cerulean rain]

Gamma shockwave > beta and gamma shockwave > collapse hand, a wall is not required. Gamma shockwave > alpha is a bit easier than beta as the followup so if you can get the beta the alpha instead is easy

[cerulean meteor]

I’d say something like sisterly hig speed replen or pu turbo. If you land a gamma sisterly is guaranteed and high speed replen can just boost your survivability and aggressiveness. Pu turbo is also rlly good or wall runner just to give yourself some movement and not being so reliant on gamma

[modern cypress]

i thought pu turbo sucks compared to crushing PU ?

[cerulean meteor]

In that case crushing pu

[hot moss]

I understand the Tech Denki hype, but my Strike Shiggy still feasts

(Killed a total of 3 Nejires today as a bonus)

[modern cypress]

off meta king

[crisp wasp]

Hey guys I would like some assault shaggy tunings advice

[compact yarrow]

I won yellow shiggy (I can play my crusty pookie again 🙏) but how should I level him up? I'm assuming his alpha is probably his best move :p

[cerulean meteor]

I do gamma 4 beta 9

And leave alpha

[compact yarrow]

Hmm alright I'll try that, ty!!

[pliant schooner]

Anyone have a good tune build for strike shiggy?

[cerulean meteor]

Anything with wall run

[pliant schooner]

Noted

[subtle fog]

Anyone got a nice tuning tht works for either shiggy skillset on the cyberpunk skin u get for getting to expert?

a lot I’ve seen have been an “either or” kinda thing

But I switch between both so want one tht works for both

[long python]

Who plays support shiggy?

👀 👀 👀

[pliant schooner]

Chat does he know

[long python]

Who knows?

[subtle fog]

👀👀👀

[cerulean meteor]

I’d say revenge technical and special action reload 🤓 revenge tech could be put in the right side and you could have Nejire for spiraling leap

@dark stump could you post that ss of yours 😇

[raw hatch]

guys anybody know how to jump like that?

[balmy hawk]

well documented wallrunner tech. You let go of any directional input as you jump

will carry whatever momentum you had prior

[shell sundial]

any tips on how to kill a nejire as strike shiggy?

[hot moss]

Pray

[hot moss]

Nah you might get lucky if you can lure her into a building and fight her from within there if you're fully maxed and she's not, but it really does just come down to luck more than anything with actually being able to get a Down on her in a 1v1. She just... beams -_-

I've only killed ones that are already low on health and trying to heal or clearly new players that don't know how to stay airborne.

If you know there's one around, try your best to stay out of her radar and let your teammates hopefully deal with her, but still keep tabs on her fighting other people, when you see her try to flee to heal you might be able to catch her out. She's not quick so wherever she tries to fly to you can potentially reach her before she can recover.

[shell sundial]

tysm

[subtle fog]

That nejire idea is diabolical lol I love it

[hot moss]

It is pretty useful tbf

[balmy hawk]

Hide until she has to land and then body her as fast as you feasibly can.

Wall Runner + Walljump tech (iida style) combined with SA might be enough to ground her if you're quick with it and she's low enough.

[hot moss]

I wish it was that easy :')

I've been practicing more with the Walljump Tech and landed SA on a couple of them but they still just take to the sky again so quick and immediately bring out the beta to your face.

I have yet to even Down one by doing it even though all the ones I have landed SA on from walljumping have been on flesh.
-# Can expect a clip though the second I manage to get one hehe

[acoustic dove]

Level up path for assault ? + Tips on how to play him ?

[cerulean meteor]

I do gamma 4 beta 4 gamma max

[hot moss]

Why gamma max?

[cerulean meteor]

I like having that little bit extra mobility and it starts off my combos with more dmg

[hot moss]

I thought the range didn't increase with levels?

[cerulean rain]

Level 1 goes the same distance as 9 after the buff a few patches ago

[cerulean meteor]

WHAT

It feels longer

I’ll still lvl it up that way regardless

[raw hatch]

what is SA?

[jagged flame]

Special action

[pliant schooner]

Can they give strike shiggy a rework so he isn't completely useless against flying characters

Like have the decay shoot a small geyser type of thing upwards. Not extremely high. But just something that can touch people in the air.

[hot moss]

He isn't completely useless against flying characters if you know how to use him to the best of his ability.
Only ones I almost always struggle with is Nejire and Rapidgo. Mirio sometimes too but that's only because of lag issues lately making my dodges not be dodging. So they hit their betas on me way more often than they should.

[long python]

Same

[long python]

I made a video on him if your interested

[pliant schooner]

Is shiggy's grab on his gamma also kind of buddy for people?

Strike shiggys

[hot moss]

You mean buggy?
If so that's been the case since season 1 lol
They will never fix anything to do with the guy's grab

[pliant schooner]

Yeah

Man.

That's cringe.

[hot moss]

What kinda bug you experiencing?

[pliant schooner]

He'll deal the 40 damage when he grabs, but sometimes the enemy gets out of it and I don't get the full damage.

Also Shigaraki becoming Diddyraki whenever he grabs a toga for some reason

😭

[hot moss]

Yeah he has a few bugs related to dropping people from grabs unfortunately. Always has :')

Or you sometimes whiff a grab which just means you're at the wrong angle, so you collide and deal the initial guard damage but never enter the actual grab animation on someone.

Also not gonna question that second part

[pliant schooner]

I've only had it happen with toga for whatever reason

But sometimes togas model will attache itself to shiggys hand

And it makes for a very colorful image.

[hot moss]

Oh that can happen to everyone not just Toga pff, I've had that happen a lot. It's funny and awkward at the same time

[pliant schooner]

Well it's only happened with toga in my experience

[hot moss]

Fair enough
Must just grab a lotta Togas pff

I'm not sure who I've ended up doing it to the most. I feel like either Shoto or Iida are the ones that get stuck on my character most often

[pliant schooner]

Switch just has a lot of toga representation

Both tech and rapid.

[hot moss]

Makes sense, she's popular everywhere lmao

[pliant schooner]

Nejire DOES know she can fly... right?

[hot moss]

Likely a new player because what was she actually doing? Lmao

But still love to see it hehe

[humble creek]

Can anybody help me with Strike Shiggy combo's? :0

[pliant schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[hot moss]

He has combos lol

[pliant schooner]

Yes and no. But i get your point.

[hot moss]

I mean he has very few but they can be strong depending on how you pull em off

[hot moss]

I can see this chat getting more active pretty soon. Rest assured, I will be a direct contributor to that

[steel inlet]

The patch note said that "Collapse Hand" got more rounds, does that means we get two instead of one?

[hot moss]

Yes

[steel inlet]

Does it count for Strike Shigi?

[hot moss]

YES

[steel inlet]

YAHOO!

Time to combo everyone with SA, Gamma, SA, Gamma.

[final saffron]

I just saw his buffs and wanted to pick him up

What lvl up path do I use for strike?

[hot moss]

Beta max is typically the way to go, then alpha.
I personally make sure I can get gamma to at least level 4 tho since every bit of grab damage does wonders against Rapids

[final saffron]

I lost to a rapid bakagou this character is f tier never use /j

[final saffron]

I can never rely on it sadly

Anyway to make the grab actually hit?

[hot moss]

I mean I do know how to make the grab a lot more consistent to avoid whiffing it in most situations where it normally would, but I sorta gatekeep that. Sorry 😅

You play on Switch though right?
I've heard in general it can be a bit more awkward to land the gamma there

[jagged flame]

Wasn't expecting a balance patch

Shiggy now has 350 hp

[hot moss]

A dream come true

[jagged flame]

They buffed his special action also

[hot moss]

An even bigger dream come true I know hehe

[pliant schooner]

I do A4 and then max beta

I like having that extra range

[proud hearth]

Sillies

[hot moss]

Range doesn't increase with level lol

[hot moss]

SILLY

[proud hearth]

Shigi’s buff is peak

[hot moss]

Oh beta pff
Yeah that makes more sense

[proud hearth]

I like it. I’ll probably try that out

I usually just do alpha or beta max

[hot moss]

Alpha doesn't increase in range beyond 4 so maxing it first isn't a priority

It just makes the circles bigger

[pliant schooner]

Yeah I just get it to a4 and then focus on beta

Gamma is situational.

[proud hearth]

Fair

[pliant schooner]

Packed up this Shoto

And my teammate iida being quite the "hero"...

[hot moss]

Iida mains just like speed. No support. Just zoom

[proud hearth]

Back when Shigi had only one special action

Silly

[ocean lichen]

Any mouvement tips for red shiggy ?

[proud hearth]

Jump from wall to wall and use special action while looking up for more vertical movement

[hot moss]

Lunge beta cancel into gamma for more distance coverage if you need to escape or pursue an enemy

And as D4rk said, use jump air special for vertical mobility.
For Tuning I do recommend Wall Run for one of your slots at least

Also use alpha backflip off of heights to fall faster, making escapes quicker

[ocean lichen]

I have a pur with sisterly and wall runner i think its good ?

[ocean lichen]

Alright ty

[hot moss]

Yes that'd be good

[proud hearth]

Np

[ocean lichen]

K ty tho

[proud hearth]

I need to play Strike Shigi more

[hot moss]

You do. Coffee's orders

[jagged verge]

Imagine gate keeping red shig tech.

That's absurd lol.

Let alone something like making his grab... grab. Lmao

[proud hearth]

Who’s this goober

[steel inlet]

SoMeHoW

[hot moss]

Ensuring grabs in situations where it would almost always end up whiffing, yeah.

Everyone has something they gatekeep lol

[jagged verge]

fair. but if ur not making a combo video, or if its a bug, or would make him A tier/sheesy/broken then i dont get why people gatekeep low tier heros that need desperate help lol.

or if u dont want people to know for the tourney and you're in it

[jagged verge]

But I get it.
I do want to know the reason for curiosity sake

[hot moss]

If it was a game-changer I would share for sure, but it's nothing major, just a little "teehee I know this particular trick" thing lol

[jagged verge]

So you just simply want to be the better shiggy is your reasoning lol. Simple humans

[hot moss]

No? Believe me, I don't think I'm better than anyone but I like to have some knowledge of my own at least

[jagged verge]

I'm saying you want the edge. Not that you think ur better lol

[hot moss]

Ohhh well sorta lol
Mainly against Rapids or others with high mobility just because gamma whiffing is more likely to occur from the weird angles you're likely to grab em from a lot.
But the whiffs are great for combo follow-up so it's not even bad that it happens

[balmy hawk]

I share every piece of tech I get with everyone who wants to know lmao

I have developed tech FOR shiggy and shared it HERE lol

not everyone gatekeeps :P

[hot moss]

I share most stuff tbf
I discovered the (formerly) 2 different ways Shiggy could counter Hawks before his nerfs and wasn't shy about making sure other Shiggys could cull the bird swarm too

[balmy hawk]

yeah but now you're doing a silly teehee gatekeep

:P

[hot moss]

It's just not impressive enough to even bother sharing

[past urchin]

so is there new shigi tech

[hot moss]

Not really but it makes the known Tech a lot better

[raw hatch]

that was dope

[lapis elk]

I’m thinking of making a red shig tuning is the awakened heat probably a good skin to invest in?

[hot moss]

Yes

[pliant schooner]

Yeah it's good

I use it.

even tho I don't have have the required characters unlocked

Massive overlook by me.

But it's still good

Wall runner is busted

[hallow cosmos]

What is the best red special tuning skill for that skin?