#Tsuyu Asui

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meager pier
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you hack?

west gorge
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Hacking=skill issue

meager pier
meager pier
west gorge
# meager pier fr

Like how would someone find killing the whole lobby in 2 sec off spawn fun

meager pier
meager pier
humble finch
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yes that happend to me and the circle fully closed so i dont get why people spam likes for those cheateres

shy hamlet
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i love frog

oak wadi
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I can’t not see it

west gorge
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Happy birthday Tsuyu Asui

humble nacelle
potent osprey
# humble nacelle

this is why I kinda prefer lvl 9 alpha over lvl 9 beta, but sadly the meta forces my hand anyways 😭

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tho ngl I've been enjoying leveling beta then gamma to max (getting level 4 alpha ofc between that.) Now that I'm using invisibility way more for the past like half a year its honestly clutch

humble nacelle
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I’m ngl her camo plus acceleration is crazy fast, I couldn’t imagine adding in a rapid card

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I’ll always put my alpha to level 9 im way too used to its range for getting away and setting up attacks, the difference from level 8 to 9 is wild

potent osprey
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anything speed related is truly the best powerup combat wise for Tsu

potent osprey
humble finch
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The moment we had to protec our teammate from 2 teams trying to execute him

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That was wild

humble finch
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Hey can you guys give me lirics?

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Il make a meme song for the outcomes of your games

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And mine

west gorge
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Or a few hrs

potent osprey
oak wadi
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when are we giving her the twice treatment

humble finch
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That one can still 1 shot you

oak wadi
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Why haven’t they nerfed her yet

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😭

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I keep losing games to nagants

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My entire team just dies

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We shouldn’t even have a sniper in MHUR if I’m being honest

potent osprey
# oak wadi We shouldn’t even have a sniper in MHUR if I’m being honest

Honestly I love it, makes it hard and is a real hardcore skill check. As frog fighting Nagant is a breeze, I just predict alphas and weave around the beta and she's screwed. My assault Kendo kinda struggles but they are generally pretty thirsty so I let my shield break if they won't come inside my buildings hehe. Haven't found any rank Nagant that can resist the flesh trap and she's dead no matter what as soon as she steps inside 🤣. I don't like her damage but really that's her only problem besides the weird beta hitbox desyncs (and ofc the exploit.) Plus there are far bigger problems than her such as rapid deku who have nearly the same damage and far more of everything else.

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The reason people struggle with Nagant for the most part is because really they just don't know how to fight a sniper in general. They run right into the open like a bunch of headless chickens.

oak wadi
oak wadi
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Her moves are just harder to keep up with when her team is after you aswell

potent osprey
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But I 100% agree she's overtuned especially damage wise

oak wadi
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I can’t say much because my team was a level 5 deku and bakugo

potent osprey
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That reload on the gamma comes back too fast as well

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But I like that they added ads lag, despite the freaking cheats that remove it that some people use 😭

oak wadi
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Her mobility just needs some nerfs and then her SpA needs a huge damage reduction especially if she can get you into a combo with it

oak wadi
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It’s the nagants a lot of the time twice or especially toga

potent osprey
potent osprey
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I bet acceleration probably negates that now that I think of it

oak wadi
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Earlier today I got combo’d with her melee then an iron fist empowered SpA

potent osprey
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The slowed ads speed is supposed to prevent those from being legit combos and allow you to roll out of it

oak wadi
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Oh did they debuff her melee?

potent osprey
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No just the special action

oak wadi
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😂 give it the twice treatment

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I don’t think they fixed that gamma bug with her either did they?

potent osprey
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No but fixing exploits can be quite tricky. The devs have struggled in the past with fixing certain exploits to the point that when they implemented a fix and tested it the fix ended up breaking many other things so they gotta fix that

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This game is kinda spaghetti code

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But not as spaghetti as back in early seasons

oak wadi
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I think it might be more difficult to even begin to nerf nagant because no other sniper type has really existed in game before

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It’s gotta all be fresh and new for them especially when the community has complaints and how to resolve them

potent osprey
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Honestly I think her SA damage should be 250ish with a headshot and damage output is tied to her alpha levels. So level 1 alpha means SA is weaker, and level 4 etc increases damage and reload speed

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That last one would take a minute to implement though

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Since that is an entirely new system they would have to create for Nagant

potent osprey
# oak wadi I think it might be more difficult to even begin to nerf nagant because no other...

The only thing close is Ibara and Assault Deku but they aren't true snipers. And that's what is gonna make even a perfectly balanced Nagant extremely dangerous, she is a true sniper. Ngl I may not play her that much rn since I'm always pushed away by heavily overtuned characters, but I will be the one making headless chickens out there here and there Nagant is an awesome character in the anime.

Plus the milsim side of me loves snipers whether against them or playing as them (I probably would've been scratching my head though as well on how to fight Nagant if I never had an interest in that genre and was never taught how to deal with them.) So that's why I try to help the community out with tactics against Nagant, she's in no way an easy character to fight without the proper experience and knowledge too

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Sorry for the slight essay

oak wadi
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The thing is for me, like you said, everyone is usually out in the open kind of

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But should one character hold all of that power to keep players inside buildings to properly fight her?

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Inside buildings sneaking, you know the works

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I guess I just never saw that as mhur style

potent osprey
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Yeah one of these days I do wanna make a tutorial on how to counter Nagant. I'll probably do a side thing for how to counter with the characters I main in detail as well so I'll have a section on fighting as Tsu and Assault Kendo.

potent osprey
# oak wadi I guess I just never saw that as mhur style

It really depends on your mains strengths, Assault Kendo I kinda have to use building but nothing new there I'm used to it. But Tsu I can easily fight out in the open because of her exceptional agility and invisibility.

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Plus all flies are frog food tbf with that

oak wadi
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I think the reason I always die is cause I have the urge to grapple onto her in the air 😂

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I still do it even though I get shot down soon as I plant three alphas on her

potent osprey
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I should add to that Tsu fighting in the "open" I do use lots of cover.

oak wadi
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I’m a froppy only user, in games I pick a character I like that works well for me and I stick with it to become the best at that

oak wadi
humble finch
potent osprey
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I'm a bit of a slow learner

humble finch
potent osprey
humble finch
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Agree

potent osprey
humble finch
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Its the B that gets in my way,i think thats the flying one

potent osprey
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I really dislike the net code in this game sometimes

potent osprey
humble finch
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That prepared to fly ability

potent osprey
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That's her gamma, the beta is the aoe attack

humble finch
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Ah

potent osprey
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Which is honestly more annoying ngl 😭 I hate the hitbox on that thing

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That beta hits me 5 feet outside of the visuals almost every time

humble finch
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I played her 2 times wen i stole the quirk with Toga

potent osprey
humble finch
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I still died

potent osprey
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Tech Toga is actually probably the closest character to my third main if going by just play time

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She's a lot of fun

humble finch
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I belive my second is tech shigy and speedy toga

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4th is nejire

potent osprey
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I don't like rapid togas gamma lag and still kinda gotta grudge for how braindead she was.

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That kit would've been so much fun if they just released it balanced

humble finch
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Its fun wen you go from 1 transformation to another like really fast

potent osprey
humble finch
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Well 1 flyes the other dosent

potent osprey
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Tech Toga flies enough for me 🤣

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I figured that out when a rapid Toga chased me as tech Toga for literally 5 minutes straight across the USJ map 3x over. She got dusted as soon as I got tech denki blood

humble finch
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If you are a well behaved tsu,then just kick the toga and walk away

potent osprey
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Funny thing about that my buddy was in that match and was the exact tech denki I stole blood from and saw me and that other Toga pass by multiple times 🤣

humble finch
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Did they try to get you or did they miss you with the B?

potent osprey
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After the match he messaged me saying he was laughing at how much that rapid Toga was failing at wanting to get me.

potent osprey
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Or do you mean the toga

humble finch
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There was one time wen i played tech shig and missed 2 alphas on a stationary target only for him to aplaud me

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We made friends

potent osprey
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Lmaoooo been there done that 😭

humble finch
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Ye i was expecting him to dodge them so i could predict xD

potent osprey
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"their vision is based on movement, if I stay absolutely still they won't see me." 🤣

humble finch
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I have glasses its not fair

potent osprey
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Sameeee lmao

humble finch
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Irl nerf

potent osprey
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Though my eyes besides the blurriness are luckily pretty good. I can even somewhat see pretty well in complete darkness

humble finch
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Same,i see better in pitch dark then day

oak wadi
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That move is like a Roblox hitbox

humble finch
potent osprey
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Man I hate how nearly everyone else gets a huge braindead hitbox bigger than the visuals while us frogs have to deal with hitboxes smaller than the visuals. Like I don't want a bigger hitbox for Tsu I want her to take skill to play but my lord they need to chill with hitboxes

oak wadi
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That’s why it’s so fun alpha chasing hawks AFO or all might in the air 😂

humble finch
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Priority is B

potent osprey
humble finch
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Lvl 4 A for the range so then i can get out of stuff fast

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Sadly they took out the 4 Alphas from us

potent osprey
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Im fine with 3 anyways that's plenty, 4 alphas would be kinda broken ngl

humble finch
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We had that back in S 1 to S 4 then i stoped playing and returned 2 seas ago

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It was a tsuyu war in every loby

potent osprey
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I thought that was just in the beta I don't remember 4 alphas on release

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Though I could also check one of my season 1 clips and make sure 🤔

humble finch
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Aight

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Im off to sleep now

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Then drink tomorrow

potent osprey
humble finch
tall flicker
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I hate OFA Deku he should simply die

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😠

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Bro has everything

potent osprey
# tall flicker Bro has everything

My biggest problem with him is his insane amount of tracking, it just makes him way too easy to play I find myself literally turning my brain off even in ranked and still winning with him.

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at least prime strike deku u had to have some braincells for certain situations

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despite the fact strike deku kinda smokes rapid deku in an even match (not that hes overall better just that strike deku pretty much counters rapid deku with just those alphas.)

humble finch
potent osprey
humble finch
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Then theres me returning from catching pokemons and VR

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I dont have enough pokeballs here

potent osprey
# humble finch Then theres me returning from catching pokemons and VR

I remember playing blade and sorcery when my VR headset wasn't constantly being forced fed bugs to make me try and upgrade to their newer headsets. My GPU driver creators are definitely working overtime to counter it because they always figure out something to fix it. Tried it a few days ago and my headset was back to normal working condition, till my next meta hardware update for my Rift S 😭

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But blade and sorcery was great for reflexive/reaction time practice. I also had a mod that basically turned me into Bakugo and I could fly around and blow up people exactly like he does 🤣

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I need to redownload that ngl

humble finch
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Ugh rift s

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That one broke in 1 year

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Lucky now i have a vive index

potent osprey
# humble finch That one broke in 1 year

I've had mine since 2022, she's been roughed up here and there but going strong. I did have a USB cable problem but that was because my USB ports directly from my motherboard is not powerful enough to power my Rift S. Fixed it by buying a dedicated USB hub that plugs directly into the motherboard itself and haven't had my Rift S loose connection since.

humble finch
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Yea my pc was strong at that time and the vr just fryed

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But its good that one broke and im saying it cuz i was always in VrC at all times

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Now if i dont feel like playing it i just relax

potent osprey
humble finch
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Well if you want you can join me

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Il probably explore worlds,dance or play some games

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Or maybe get wasted drunk and start murdering people

potent osprey
humble finch
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Ok

potent osprey
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I got some weekend plans so I'm not sure if I'll be around much to do it today or tomorrow

humble finch
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Eh its fine im now used to drink alone

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Had to take a long break from that game aswell since it was all dramas

potent osprey
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Keeps me away from it besides family hangouts

humble finch
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Thats better then drinking

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Now its not the im all into drinks,just 1 or 2 now

potent osprey
potent osprey
humble finch
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Mine was 3 months ago

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Ended up singing at 3 am the national anthem

potent osprey
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Lmaoooo

humble finch
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That was fun

potent osprey
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Sounds like it 🤣

humble finch
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Not to mention how manny fights i started in vrc

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Made a couple break up just cuz they got in my way

potent osprey
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Bar fights but it's vrchat 🤣

humble finch
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And then i switched to singing Russian musics(scuffed ones) while dancing

potent osprey
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I'm a very tame person I try to avoid conflict as much as possible, though I just would rather make friends than enemies 🤣

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But if they want to be enemies well looks like I ain't got no choice lol

humble finch
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I wave my hand 1 time and i alredy have 3 new enemyes

potent osprey
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😭

humble finch
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You know how they say keep your friends close and your enemy closer

potent osprey
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Like I don't really take no bull but it takes a lot to push my buttons

potent osprey
humble finch
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I took it to heart

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I mostly hangout with people that get into my nerves

potent osprey
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Lmaoooo, sometimes friends really do get on ur nerves

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Unless your talking about random people in vrc

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Than yeah that was well 🤣

humble finch
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I dont make mistakes,i fight all of them

potent osprey
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Well Imma get some sleep it's like 3am here, have a good one!

humble finch
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You too good night

humble nacelle
west gorge
west gorge
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Most ppl find his gamma the problem but I'd just say they should treat it like afo gamma

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There's a time for you to dodge or you can hit deku out of it mid tracking if you're fast enough since the devs didn't give it armor

tall flicker
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It feels really unfair

I'll take 5 minutes in a game to try to destroy an OFA Deku while avoiding every attacks of him, and if he succeed to attack me at least once I'm simply dead

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Maybe it's a skill issue of course, but I wanted to complain because the last games I did were complicated solely because of OFA Deku 😭

humble finch
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i mainly dont like the basicsthose are annoing

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and the tracking ability

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i think AFo hiding in a building while you pass by is more scarry

humble finch
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only 600 dmg to be on all

west gorge
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I rolled gacha on tsus bday and didn't get a tsu pur

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😭

humble finch
west gorge
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I rolled on a banner hopping I would be blessed with a tsu pur

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And got nothing

humble finch
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Welcome to ultra rumble

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I never get what i need from the pulls

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Also do you have alls justice?

humble finch
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Oooh what pokemon did you catch

potent osprey
west gorge
potent osprey
# west gorge Ps4

Ahhhh how well does the game run on there? I started out on my buddies ps4pro in the beta and it ran butter smooth but my xbox one s folds hardcore

west gorge
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They should allow console players to set their dodge button to single input, im told 2 input wastes a few frames and makes thing impossible to dodge like mirio gamma

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Compared to pc

potent osprey
west gorge
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Without lan it doesn't even proc

oak wadi
quiet wigeon
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Had to deal with rapid Bakugo, toga, two Nagant, overhaul, and a trio of support Nejire, tech Mirio, and tamaki as the last team. Had assault Urakaka and strike Bakugo on my team

stray cape
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welcome to the too serious club

humble finch
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Ah that

west gorge
gloomy atlas
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This dude has no hit box hacks btw

west gorge
gloomy atlas
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Apperntly that went flying over ur head

gloomy atlas
west gorge
gloomy atlas
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They took "i have no life and dignity" to a whole new level

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I already reported the person about 100 times

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😭

west gorge
west gorge
gloomy atlas
west gorge
gloomy atlas
west gorge
# gloomy atlas Bandai is like EA money only

Think of it as a wall, hackers wil always find ways to pass through it, so devs will need to constantly prevent each method of passing through it.
Tho because it's bandai they'll only prevent 1 method of passing the wall since they are to "busy" to prevent the other methods

west gorge
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Like lets say to pass the wall hackers climb it so devs put spikes to prevent that from happening so hackers evolve and use ladders but since deva used all their "power" to put spikes they won't prevent the other methods

gloomy atlas
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Only way to get rid of hackers is to send them to lobbies gor hacks only

candid niche
west gorge
quiet wigeon
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It's worse when you're in a bush healing invisible and they still beam you

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I also love being invisible and hiding using a team heal, just for a teammate to stand next to you out of the bush and you die to an aoe aimed at them

candid niche
quiet wigeon
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I like to do it right before going around a corner

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Makes it harder to see

humble nacelle
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T bag of horror

tall flicker
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I already had some 3 rapid teams while playing Tsuyu

I don't remember seeing a difference, but I'm sure there were great games

humble finch
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I noticed the speed difference

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Covered half a map in 3 alphas

quiet wigeon
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it feels nice, but you do miss the other bonuses like not having your shield broken in a single shiggy slam

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or having a slightly easier time connecting combos

humble finch
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me trying my best to pull for nejire

west gorge
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Fighting another froppy who has a functional brain as froppy genuinely feels like this

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All down to precision, timing and parrying

humble finch
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there is only 1 survivor out of that

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its always the most anime thing you can see

west gorge
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"This town ain't big enough for the both of us"

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Devs gotta rerun a tsu banner

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And give her a qss next season

humble finch
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whats qss

humble finch
humble nacelle
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It’s my birthday today🤟

potent osprey
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oh wait

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quirk skill set

west gorge
humble finch
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i prefer to add eighter speed or the one where i kick someone and it shows his location even wen hiding

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if thats what you mean,or i am jus hearing voices now?

potent osprey
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no I mean I will just always prefer the first one if any would ever come out it is a good and very fun moveset

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plus knowing the fact it will probably be at least a bit overtuned 😭

humble finch
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if we ever get that

west gorge
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||it's been sitting around for awhile tho similar to stain who's been around since day 1||

west gorge
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My only problem with the frog is how her sa kinda weights her down.
We get tm8s who don't cooperate and expect froppy to be their support pet thingy (to put it lightly) and then they proceed to be toxic and cry even tho you tried to cooperate as they most likely died 1st all on their own

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Like I could be chasing a 1 tap opponent and have to leave em to attend to my dying tm8s

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Tho I will admit I have quite grown to love this chaotic playstyle

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Perfect balance of support and aggro

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Atleast in my books

potent osprey
tall flicker
humble finch
humble finch
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Sorry that happend yo you

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To"

tall flicker
humble finch
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Same

meager pier
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first game of the day

humble finch
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also thats cool

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i mean your stats

west gorge
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Frogs I think we should fear he upcoming raid boss

humble finch
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what raid boss?

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ooh right you mean the new skill set for overhawl

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i think i killed one of theam

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but i had to constantly run

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and dodge

west gorge
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Overhaul can do the same and kod you for 700+ dmg

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And he has tracking on both his moves

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Along with instant beta if we approach or his sa to heal/dney close range encounters

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Tsu could somewhat do the same but she doesn't have enough ammo nor little downpower to do so

humble finch
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that means 1 thing

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buff tsuyu

west gorge
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And I don't think that will happen until ppl realize that tsu isn't broken

humble finch
humble finch
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you see this guy just so you know hes using cheats to win

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and by thats its all of them we all know

tall flicker
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Apparently they fixed Tsuyu's air melee, can someone try it ??

meager pier
humble nacelle
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W devs fr idk why they changed it when they made it the way it is now a couple seasons back

tall flicker
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I made some of my best games with Tsuyu this season while she had the bad air melee, now that it has been fixed I can't wait to play again !!!

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And knowing that apparently assault Overhaul isn't OP, it makes me want to play more

tall flicker
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Like all of his attacks were nerfed in damage apparently

west gorge
humble finch
west gorge
west gorge
humble finch
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So in your opinion what are the unbalanced ones for now

west gorge
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Just the main prime offenders

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Theres more but they aren't as bad

west gorge
tall flicker
west gorge
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Other than that im fine with him

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Gamma is dodgable but it needs to instantly hardknock

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I've been hit with the nastiest combos
Ofa deku gamma>melee>support nejire beta
Ofa deku gamma>p mic gamma
Ofs deku gamma> strike endeavor beta

humble finch
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Yea i agree its mostly the melle but if you manage to dodge that he cant track you,as he needs the mele to get that

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I played him

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Just for the test and to figure his ability's

tall flicker
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Maybe I should try him in training to learn more about him and how it works

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That could be why I have so much problems with him

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I feel like even though I attack him a lot, he never die, and then he punch me in the face and I'm down

west gorge
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For gamma you can either dodge and punish with yr alpha (you can't beta as you're stun locked even if you dodge but won't take dmg so you won't have enough time to beta)

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Or if you got that dawg in ya. You can counter/parry amd cancel his gamma with your perfectly timed beta

humble finch
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Also dont try to use basic on him while hes in that punching animations that wold still get you,hes somehow not capble to get knockback wen he dose that

tall flicker
humble finch
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i dont understand why my team mate left me

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i revived him as many times as he went down we just both died in the zone at the end while i tryed to get him up again

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soo...i dont understand why he left without saying anithing

glass wing
# west gorge

This is lowkey me when my teammate drops across the map from us and dies early game.

west gorge
humble finch
humble finch
potent osprey
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Apparently the air melee was fixed?!

west gorge
humble finch
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do any of you play pokemon by chance?

glass wing
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I feel like every recent patch notes for Froppy have just been small readjustments or hot fixes.

humble nacelle
sinful hearth
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from one tsu main to others does it make anyone else mad when others play her the third party only way, like it just feels like such a waste of potential and those that play her that way are usually the most toxic too and just give the rest of her players a bad rep

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dont mean any ill will by this just genuinely curious if others share the same sentiment as i doShiozaki

west gorge
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I kinda despise the frog players who only guzzle(drink team heals) in bushes the whole match

sinful hearth
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thankful im not the only person that feels this way, i get being full support build or a mix of both or full damage, but the toxic third party frogs just make me so disappointed😭

tall flicker
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I don't understand what do you mean by "third party" ?

sinful hearth
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the standard doing attacks on top of other teams combos, waiting only when people are healing to attack instead of doing normal confrontation, typically people that will do anything to avoid direct confrontation or actual fights and just piggyback off the damage of others instead of actually learning how to fight with the character

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playstyles like this are usually in combination with very toxic in game behavior such as tbagging, emote spamming, etc. which is the real reason why i think the majority of the UR community has such a large hatred for the character

tall flicker
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Oh ok I see, yeah that's clearly not me

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Yesterday I went to 1v1 an assault Overhaul at the end of my game because I just wanted blood

west gorge
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They are usually ahh in direct confrontation

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Smthing like this

candid niche
humble finch
humble finch
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this is just depressing

west gorge
potent osprey
# sinful hearth dont mean any ill will by this just genuinely curious if others share the same s...

It really isn't a character to character kind of thing, it's more just thats all people do in this game is third party. Especially if you are kicking them around, they will watch you and wait till it looks like you are low then jump in. It isn't the end of the world now that I've figured out how to identify and get rid of them early. If any player or team seems like they are trying to get the third party only one me I get their team out first instead. People wanna focus me down, I'll do the same to them hehe Asui

humble finch
potent osprey
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Though if they try to hardcore third party me in solos, that's where I get to have my fun and I do it right back to them lmaoooo

humble finch
potent osprey
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More so saying if they wanna try and third party me, I'll third party them with surgical precision 🤣

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I generally prefer to honor the 1 on 1 fights despite it coming back to bite me later sometimes.

humble finch
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Il just troll them by going invizible hiting them then run wait for them to heal then break theyr shields again and repeat until they just give up and leave

potent osprey
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but I will give em a third party if thats what they want

humble finch
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Il go hit the normals now,i need to get some likes

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Trust me its alot easyer wen you do plays and your team is new to the game

sinful hearth
humble finch
humble finch
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now im happy

west gorge
sinful hearth
restive ivy
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What’s a good tuning build for the mineta outfit

hushed basin
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Are any of Tsuyu’s Parallel World outfits any good?

oak wadi
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But yk what

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That’s an advantage for us

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Go ahead and underestimate us but don’t cry when this happens

tall flicker
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For real I did such AMAZING games with Froppy, stealing everyone's place on the score board

open gale
humble finch
potent osprey
# hushed basin Are any of Tsuyu’s Parallel World outfits any good?

i use reinforced revive and quirk factor release which is really good. This one is more niche than meta but i still love it, spacehop and wallrunner/acceleration (i switch between the 2 depending on how i am feeling. don't listen to anyone who says spacehop isnt useful on Tsu they don't know what they are talkin about.)

shy hamlet
potent osprey
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W

humble finch
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rip me shigy

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i was hunted

runic grove
runic grove
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I hope I get it right because I've already done several Tsuyu [characters]. I got Overhaul more or less right, for example, and I'm actually happy about that.

west gorge
restive ivy
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What’s the best build for the creepy outfit

restive ivy
# west gorge

Lmao you can tell dudes like these lost to someone Tbagging so they just taking the anger out on others

humble finch
humble finch
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So then what battle stile wold this be?

oak wadi
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I’m so evil

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I always target my fellow pond sisters

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There’s only been one froppy ever I’ve been unable to kill so far

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😭 I must become the full frog slayer

humble finch
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Free for all

oak wadi
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😂 one thing my friend said when we were picking were to land and saw all the frogs on the map “this is not the pond!” This forward every other frog became my pond sisters

west gorge
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Ain't enough room in this town for the both of us

humble finch
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anione up for tsuyu vs tsuyu's custom?

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il get wasted on vodkas

oak wadi
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I just started playing a few months ago so like around season 11-12 ish and here’s how my skill is improving thankfully

humble finch
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and returned

meager pier
austere mountain
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Froppy is the best support character.

Change my mind

humble finch
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ye about s 13 i returned at the end before nagant was a thing

humble finch
west gorge
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Unlike the others who can do it from safe places or through walls

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If your tm8 is on smthing like max lv shiggy beta decay you literally can't do anything

austere mountain
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I tried resing as concrete yeeter and it doesn't even work

west gorge
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Played him yesterday

west gorge
humble finch
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ah i know that bug

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i figured out to solve it you need to hit the oposing enemy then go ahed and res

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otherwise you are stuck in that pointless animation and the game slaps you in the face over it

west gorge
humble finch
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so it like last season started t omanifest

humble finch
runic grove
runic grove
oak wadi
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It could be better, but I’m constantly running to help my team 😂

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I swear being tsuyu feels like being a mom

humble finch
humble finch
oak wadi
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Nagantocide

humble finch
oak wadi
humble finch
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selling nagant 5$ negociable

oak wadi
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😭😭😭 nagant heads 4 sale

humble finch
oak wadi
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All tsuyu people let’s make a new trend

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Every nagant you kill take a picture of her downed you next to her and then post it here

humble finch
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anione wants to join my guild btw?

runic grove
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I was only a week without playing.

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ONE

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Where's my top 100?!???

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😭😭😭

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Here I go again, d4mn it...

humble finch
runic grove
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I was out of action for a week due to problems at home.

humble finch
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i was in 1400 before

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now i droped 1k

runic grove
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The lower your rank, the easier it is to climb, so it's easy lol

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Just earning 100 points gives you about 20 Rank increases, so it's pretty good, but the more Rank you have, the difference between one rank and another is incredible.

humble finch
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ye but im in ace

runic grove
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I don't know about PC, but man, I find it funny that the difference between the global top spot and second place is 70k.

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There are some problems and arguments here at home because I'm thinking about quitting my job to pursue a different field, since working and saving money isn't going to change my life in any way. I need to multiply the money, not just let it accumulate.

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There's a fight going on here because I want something different and I don't want to be a shop assistant...

humble finch
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first you need a plan and a bright idea of cons and good

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then research it alot,as exemple i plan to moove to japan but to buy a house wold bankrupt me so a good idea is Akia

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i did extensive research on theyr laws,homes,jobs etc

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but it depends if you plan to moove out of country or just the job

runic grove
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Both, but the country will take a while since I still need to learn other languages.

runic grove
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For example, I love English and I can read what you say, I can understand you speaking, but I don't know how to write it, haha.

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This is purely translation.

humble finch
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il say you are french

runic grove
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I want to go to Japan, visit the USA, France... there are so many places I'd love to go.

humble finch
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well you need to stick with 1 plan

runic grove
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I'm Brazilian

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I already have a plan, but I feel like the people who should be helping the most are actually hindering me...

humble finch
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in Eu is mostly comon to go in another nation via recruitment of another company

humble finch
runic grove
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They're so worried that at work they hit me, make fun of me, talk about somewhat... criminal content, and yet they still won't let me do something better with my life.

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Could it go wrong? It could, but I'd rather take the risk than be stuck in a routine that everyone says leads to victory... but then why isn't any of them at the top?

humble finch
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thats kinda all you need since they will give you housing,so you just nee to buy food

runic grove
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Look, man, where I live earning dollars is difficult, since transferring that to me is equivalent to 60,000 lol

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Yes, excluding the dollar, I have 10,000 reais (Brazilian currency).

humble finch
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let me check that

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dam

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then probably ester europe wold be abetter choice for you as its welcoming exemple i have many cooworkeres from nepal,azerbaijan and india

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the thing is you need to look for recruitment adds

humble finch
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this is the first i saw something like this

humble nacelle
runic grove
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Hey everyone. My Tsuyu averages 78 in Alpha and around 198 in Beta. Suddenly, with a Toga, I was averaging 88 in Alpha and 124 in Beta.

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Okay, I understand that sometimes there are people who play with characters without tuning, like me who has Tokoyami but doesn't have any tuning because I don't play with him.

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But then...didn't my damage get a little too much?

oak wadi
humble finch
humble finch
humble nacelle
humble finch
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So in order to get better at fighting should i go for solos? I feel slugish now and i need to rewire my brain

candid niche
# runic grove But then...didn't my damage get a little too much?

Teammates/tunings affected: if you are dealing more damage. It is possible that you might have a striker on your team. Or they do not have an assault teammate.
Tunings: Shigaraki for embrittlement. Iron Fist (S.Kendo)
SA: Shigaraki applies on that Toga before you hit her?
Cards?

runic grove
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No plus cards, no cards, my team I had, a Mirio and a Deku Striker, and it makes sense, but... I commented in 11 my Alpha damage from the base, like... wow

candid niche
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Toga transformed and copy their tunings. As we know that she has a bugged acceleration by transforming/detransforming.

runic grove
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I only know about the infinite defense bug.

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If you use a defense-breaking tuning, breaking your defense when transformed will continue until you break your defense again upon reverting to normal.

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I use it when my guard is broken to gain defense, but it should work with Dani, either quickly or as support.

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Look who would have thought! Besides being an Asui main, I'm also a technical Toga player, lol.

tame oriole
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This frog is still the bane of my existence

humble nacelle
west gorge
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Do yall think we should chase ppl who just come into our chat to complain abt our frog? (They don't main nor play her btw)

glass wing
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I still never understand the "chase across the map" argument to justify the hate for Froppy

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Like, chasing, much less across the map isn't exclusively a Froppy thing.

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Literally anyone can quote on quote "chase across the map".

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Have you not seen how Iida's be moving.

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Same goes for the "they come out of no where" argument

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Again, that isn't exclusively a Froppy thing.

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If anything, I see Tokoyami's "come out of no where" more often than Froppy's.

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Again, why do people treat chasing and "coming out of no where" as exclusively a Froppy thing when anyone else in the roster (YES EVEN TECH DABI) can do it?

humble nacelle
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I honestly chopped it up to its people that tried Froppy and got cooked so they never picked her up again, so they deemed it to be she’s bad so now when they get downed by a Froppy by any reasonable means (anyone is gonna chase someone they know is low) they find anything about her to complain about

west gorge
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I did ask the question last night

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Got a few silly awnsers

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Some being frog players steal all the civs, they hated her in the anime and it carried over, her sp and tunning

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Say anything in her defense and you'll get down voted 😭

glass wing
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NO ONE TAKES THE FROPPY CONVERSATION SERIOUSLY

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It always reverts to just blatant discrimination of the character

west gorge
glass wing
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It makes me just believe that all hate is just ragebait

glass wing
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But she's still an issue?

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Just revert her SpA reload to 60 and she'll be fine

west gorge
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Tho the ppl asking for dmg nerfs are crazy

glass wing
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And when I actually ask how someone would nerf her, they always say, "Just delete her 🤪"

glass wing
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Every. F***ing. Time

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And you want to know the craziest part?

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Everyone who I seen who HATES Froppy...

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They have zero problem taking one out

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Let's make mrow for example

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He hates Froppy

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But everytime I see him go up against a Froppy, they always get deleted, no matter who mrow is playing as.

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So what is he really complaining about? 🥹

potent osprey
# west gorge Tho the ppl asking for dmg nerfs are crazy

Look if this was a well balanced game and Tsu was the same yeah she would need a slight damage nerf, I'll give them that. But to this day compared to what 95% of the cast does her damage is non existent. They all do her combo damage in 1 hit even at level 9 alpha and beta except maybe extremely complex combos that while a really good Tsu can force the situation to happen its still kinda situational. But to get that complex combo off she needs to hit 2 alphas and 3 beta's (so 1-2-3-4-5 combo) while everyone else does it with a 1-2 combo and way easier. And ngl that complex combo is gonna be like alien stuff to most Tsu players for a bit. Also that combo has some of the most extreme timings in this game, the window is easily less than a second against good players and thats if they don't have a superarmor move to counter it.

obsidian gazelle
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rapidgo's i thought were bad

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maybe a mirio

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but a froppy will see you once and make it their mission to chase

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it's a very fair point hen people bring it up becuase it's happened to them mulitple times

obsidian gazelle
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i dont hate her in the anime to be honest i have no general opinion on her

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but i think she does way too much for what she is supposed to be

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and her playstyle and floatiness is quite annyyoing to fight

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i think that the major reason she is disliked, it's how annoying she is in general

glass wing
obsidian gazelle
glass wing
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I promise you the minute you fight back and get the guardbreak, a Froppy is very quick to lose interest when she's too low to prolong the fight.

obsidian gazelle
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i've had multiple times when a froppy chased me on afo into storm just to die

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chased me around the whole game

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i was laughing so hard

glass wing
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And the ones who still continue to chase or fight even when guardbroken or low

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Guess what?

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They always end up being the Froppys that are easy to kill

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Because that's a bad Froppy

obsidian gazelle
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well froppy is one of the most hated characters in the game and idk if that's gonna change soon

glass wing
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You know good Froppy would leave or step away the minute the advantage is gone.

obsidian gazelle
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it's just the way she's designed

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it's like shinso or aizawa

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they'll always be annoying

glass wing
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My main pet peeve here is no one cam actually give Froppy a good nerf.

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It's either a nerf that would just kill her all together

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For example, someone said that they should take away her Air B to Ground B chain... 💔

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Or just be stupid and say, "Just delete Froppy from the game. 🤪"

obsidian gazelle
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make her rez cd like 1:30

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and uh yea a slight dmg nerf idk what else to tell you

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also that momentum change made her stupid fast aswell

glass wing
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Not exactly faster, just more flexible

obsidian gazelle
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no

glass wing
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Which honestly, a Rapid's movement should be flexible and not stiff.

obsidian gazelle
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just faster and more annyoing to fight

obsidian gazelle
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becuase i tried playing froppy the other day

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and i felt like i never ran out of alphas

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idk what to do abt her she's just annoying and seeing in any lobby i go into just makes me feel like im going to have a hard time

obsidian gazelle
glass wing
obsidian gazelle
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ik when everyong complained abt shinso being annoying he got nerfed so lets see what the devs do

glass wing
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You know what the devs will do. They nerfed Shinso to a point where he lost most of his combos and mostly relies of catching wake ups and striking first most of the time.

obsidian gazelle
obsidian gazelle
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i remember your rant in the channel

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so lets see

glass wing
glass wing
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Did I actually? Not even trying to be sarcastic.

obsidian gazelle
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and you also suggested beta hard knock

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soo

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your idea of nerfs were take away his combos

obsidian gazelle
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also reduces the animaation speed

glass wing
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And that was what I said back then. I made that out of anger and never actually thought of the tragedy it would cause to Shinso's gameplay. My opinion changed since then and I don't think like that any more.

obsidian gazelle
glass wing
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And I'm telling you, one nerf (expect a reload nerf on SpA) will drastically change how she plays.

glass wing
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If anything, I think she needs a slight adjustment. I think the damage values for her Air B and ground B should be swapped

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Ground should do that 90 while the Air does the 105. Swap it.

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And yes, a slight reload nerf to her B because most of the time, your sort of birds eye navigating the fight looking for an opening for you to slip in.

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In compensation of that, I think her B's range a Lvls 1 to 3 should be bigger.

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Because let's be real, her early game sucks. If you are forced to fight back early game as Froppy, good fricking luck even landing moves with your toenail sized range. 😂

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And I say that because it's literally like that.

humble nacelle
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There’s way bigger fish to fry in the problems of mhur 😂

potent osprey
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pretty heavily tho they did give her back aerial control at the cost of aerial speed

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which is honestly how it should've been to begin with

obsidian gazelle
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didn't mention skill level of anyone when i was talking abt frog but you got that

glass wing
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This guy just came here and reinforced my point how no one takes a conversation about Froppy seriously.

humble nacelle
obsidian gazelle
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i said it multiple times that she is very annoying to fight

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with how much she moves around you constantly

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and her unusual jump height

obsidian gazelle
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if you like her that's alr personally i do not care enough about who anyone mians that's a personal choice but you asked why people do not like the frog and i gave you an honest personal answer

carmine aurora
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How do you play this character ? Like I swear when I'm versus a Froppy they go so fast, but when I play her she feels slow and clunky, like her alpha grapple feels so slow ?

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Is there some hidden mechanic or tech to make her as fast as possible ?

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Also how do you always get the double beta combo thing ?

potent osprey
# carmine aurora Also how do you always get the double beta combo thing ?

If they are even just slightly in the air it makes it 100x easier for sure, but the main thing you need to always be doing is moving at all times with your movement stick or keys. Many abilities have different lengths of end lag but moving while doing any attack will allow you to cancel your end lag quicker. I also try to aerial beta as close to the ground as possible at the same time because when you aerial beta the moment you touch the ground you can instantly beta again after,

potent osprey
carmine aurora
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It isn't very fast.

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I just want to learn her because she's the only character with a ranged revive besides Cementoss and Ibara. Ibara is ground. Cementos is also hard

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Wish they had a really easy support.

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Froppy is oddly mechanical

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Froppy, cementoss, and Ibara are the only "supports" because the ranged revive is dumb.

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Am Ace rank, got there using cheese strats and stealth / third partying on Mirio or Nejire, noticing the teams that stomp in ace are running 1 DPT and 1 Froppy usually.

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Nagant, Shoto, Aizawa, or Denki dropping like 8-9 kills.

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With a Froppy (and sometimes Froppy and Cementoss) reviving them

potent osprey
# carmine aurora Froppy is oddly mechanical

Some really don't know how mechanical she actually is theres so much to her alpha alone. Speaking of which I'm already making a short video for ya real quick on all the different "mechanics" her alpha has (not sure if mechanics is the proper term but its close enough.) It will make it much easier to see how to control her alpha accurately.

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Its kinda hard for me to explain it in only text because of how my brain be working rn sorry for taking a minute on this but I promise you will have your answer extremely soon

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sleepy brain prefer speech and visual teaching over trying to collect my thoughts in text 🤣

potent osprey
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Ended up being a bit longer than intended but I added some extra things at the end

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But I hope it helps ya out and anyone else who watches it

carmine aurora
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Space Hop / Spiraling Leap ?

potent osprey
# carmine aurora Space Hop / Spiraling Leap ?

Oh that's just my little fun build nothing important, spacehop and my personal favorite tuning wallrunner. I have my favorite for pure combat but another good one is reinforced revive like you said. That costumes do you have?

carmine aurora
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Superstar Idol, Parallel World, Creepy Mineta

carmine aurora
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Or Willpower ?

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I want reinforced revive

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Or speedy civilian rescue ?

meager pier
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anyone up for a match rn?

potent osprey
# carmine aurora Played a few games, she's so fragile. Maybe like the one where you get immunity ...

Sorry it took a while to respond I spent a lot of the night troubleshooting and repairing my pc. She is very fragile which is why you gotta have good dodging game, whether you are rolling or predicting attacks while using movement to dodge. Utilizing any sort of cover against their attack then going in for a counter attack also does very well. There's really not getting by it even with most tuning builds (maybe the best defense build would do alright with revenge assault and sisterly disposition. Add a defense card or 2 to that and you could be chillin.) But unless you are confident in your combat ability as Tsu most of the time you should be very cautious in how much you fight.

Instead try to take as little damage while still helping your tm8s, if you start to get focused stay nearby but cut their line of sight on you so maybe your tm8s can blindside and distract them while you heal up if needed then come back in to take them on with your team. Tsu's role in her combat is mainly supporting her tm8, she just doesn't do nearly enough damage to hold out by herself in a team fight without lots of practice and tactics. She is extremely team dependent but at least is pretty solid 1 on 1 so once you get used to her you can build your confidence and taking riskier fights as long as you plan ahead just in case.

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Now onto tuning I recommend using her parallel world fancy variant with reinforced revive and quirk factor release (young afo special tuning might need to save up his data if you don't have him yet.) Really the only thing I recommend with the standard tunings is at least double special action reload boost, the rest is up to your preference. I myself have triple special action reload boost on the bottom left side as you can see (present mic, tech AFO, monoma) but you don't have to go triple if you would rather have a strike or tech slot for something else. With this build the big thing you want to do is when you revive a teammate you wanna get a shield break on someone as soon as possible.

tall flicker
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Personally I have a build with Reinforced Revive and Acceleration (but I wanted to try a build with Reinforced Revive and Quirk Factor Release for a while)

Basically, you want to remember that having an instant revive special action means that Reinforced Revive is almost essential as a tuning, it's just too good not to use it

For the other tuning, it depends on your playstyle, but if you want, Noateku has a youtube channel where he made a tier list video for tunings specifically on Tsuyu, and it's a pretty good tier list

potent osprey
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Heck my absolute favorite build for Tsu is wallrunner and acceleration but I wouldn't recommend it to someone learning Tsu.

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I made the mistake of starting out more as a combat focused Tsu back in season one which has made me more aggressive than I really should be with her, I've dialed it back quite a bit nowadays but I still catch myself being too aggressive at times which is a detriment to my team if I am not careful enough.

tall flicker
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Sometimes I'm too agressive too, but when I realize I'm chasing for too long or I'm trying to fight someone while being in a disadvantageous situation, I stop and go near my teammates

potent osprey
meager pier
regal canyon
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What is the best tuning between Wall Runner, Perception and Acceleration for Tsuyu

tall flicker
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I run acceleration and it's pretty good, but as said up in the chat, you have to play pretty agressively to make acceleration really interesting

frank hamlet
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how in the world do you fight froppy

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its such a simple flowchart but I dont lose to any other character nearly as often

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what do yall froppy players hate fighting?

glass wing
# frank hamlet how in the world do you fight froppy

Most Froppys start the fighting with an A to get the first hit. After that, the A is very likely to he followed with a B or two, but you'll already be aware of the Froppy's presence after the A. The main tip here is to react fast since Froppy excells in surprise attacks and slip away with little time to actually assess location.

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React fast, be aware of your surroundings, and always anticipate that a Froppy (or any character in this game) can come at you at any time.

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Once you follow the fighting pace with a Froppy, she becomes predictable and much more easier to read and dodge. The invisibility can be difficult, but with enough experience, you learn how to still keep eyes on a Froppy even when she goes invisible.

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Her common combo of A -> Air B -> Ground B is not exactly true.

There's quick yet still long enough delay between the A and B to react and immediately dodge to deny her the combo. And even if you get hit by the following Air B, due to lag differences, the B chain cam sometimes whiff. Always use that whiff to you advantage to punish her with whatever attack you want.

glass wing
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@frank hamlet Did this help?

west gorge
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Asked the question on how the frog haters would "fix her"

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Excluding the delete her comments I got

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What ppl wanted were
Nerfs:
-sa 60 sec cd
-alpha can no longer reload mid air
-decrease ground beta dmg to make it on beta with air beta
-beta 3,5 sec cd

Buffs
-remove endlag on ground alpha
-remove shadow/sound from gamma
-wallrunner on gamma
-quicker gamma reload

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There were some silly ones like
Make tsu ground alpha instantly hard knock since frogs don't usually use it (the does and its important to her wakeup combos)

Decrease beta & alpha range

Decrease alpha dmg

Make 1 beta hardknock

humble finch
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or leave tsu as she is

glass wing
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Imagine trying to run away, and she immediately knocks you out all your escape options.

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I think we learned from OFA Deku why we shouldn't have moves that do tiny damage and hardknock.

west gorge
west gorge
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Anywho they gotta nerf aizawa sa icl

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Why does it cancel momentum

glass wing
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Firstly, decrease the reload speed.

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By a lot. 😭

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I think he needs reload nerf across the board.

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Once you rationalize his already stupid reloads, he's never touching the ground.

potent osprey
#

Honestly the only good thing about the nerfs they decided was the SA cool down. Touching to ground to reload alpha completely destroys what tsu is, but what needs to happen is a reload speed decrease for sure. She's supposed to have stamina over every other rapid that's her big thing besides agility. She's not extremely fast like hawks in game or anime but what she does have is incredible stamina and agility. She can pace her self and last longer in a movement race than anyone else, that's why she's one of the few rapids that reload their movement abilities mid air

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Really the only buff on there she should have is running on walls but nah they gave that to their favorite instead 😭

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But yeah while she shouldn't lose the the reload in the air, her reload is fast enough that with perfect technique and height she can have legit infinite alphas. That's why I believe she needs an alpha reload speed nerf even in this meta

humble finch
glass wing
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Which would also mean that she can't use Iida's T.U.N.I.N.G's all, not even the standard T.U.N.I.N.G.

potent osprey
glass wing
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And I think that's why they took it from her in the first place. I think they planned for T.U.N.I.N.G for a long time.

potent osprey
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But she would really need an alpha reload nerf after that

glass wing
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I feel like my adjustments are a great start.

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Nerfs:
Nerf A's damage
Swap the damage values of the two B variants
Decrease B reload speed
Decrease SpA's reload speed

Buffs:
Increase Y's penalty reload speed
Increase range on B for Lvl's 1 -> 3
Fix the endlag on A as well as reduce the curve upon firing so it's easier to hit airborne opponents.

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But really, she does need some changes, but given who else we have who is 10× worse, she is not a priority as of right now.

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AAM, Tech Shiggy, Lady Nagant, OFA Deku, Rapid Might, and Red Kiri are just too strong that nerfing Froppy now would just gut her entirely.

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Oh and decrease her melee knockdown values

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They're so stupid. You mean to tell me that two Melee 1's hardknock and I only hit you for a staggering 30 damage.

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Froppy just has hella endlag

potent osprey
# glass wing Froppy just has hella endlag

I think thats what keeps her for the most part honest. What I don't understand is why the beta damage is different in general, if we are realistic to her strengths why is she weaker in the air but stronger on the ground. Her strength doesn't change and its not like they can't find a balanced in between for the 2 to be the same damage. They can almost always combo into each other.

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Honestly I would be happy if aerial beta got a slight damage buff and the ground beta was nerfed to what the aerial beta was buffed to

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Like yeah if we go extremely into physics she would do a little bit of extra damage on the aerial beta if timed correctly due to gravity pulling her down allowing her to do slightly more damage. But that would be like 3 damage points extra if we converted those physics to in game logic.

stray cape
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I meant they both do 60

humble finch
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hey google: hao to get agency members?

humble finch
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ouch i demoted from 1400

west gorge
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Cyber punk nagant before mt lady and froppy is crazy

humble finch
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ugh i had a cheater in my game and it was in my team

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i was more then disapointed and was about to let myself die in zone

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but well i keept playing for myself and the cheater lost the game in the end

humble finch
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a good game

humble finch
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man why i am the most unlucky person alive?

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5 games second place and all of them we had a cheater

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only 2 good games

potent osprey
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so I know how ya feel

candid niche
humble finch
candid niche
# humble finch monday

Not the day of week. Time of day: morning/afternoon/night/late night
Example: playing at peak hours/hot/best: higher chance of running to a cheater/hacker.
cold hours/low activity: less chance

humble finch
candid niche
humble finch
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Eu

candid niche
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Oohh

humble finch
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What apps do you use to record?

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My recording app sees it in orange

coarse vector
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These shiggys gotta go

oak wadi
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Also excuse my caps

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THEY NERFED NAGANT SO GOOD

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SHES KILLABLE NOW

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and her HP got NERFED

coarse vector
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Ik I was happy asl

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But yellow all might a problem again

tall flicker
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Area control with Tsuyu is so fun

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Nobody expect the frog to be this great is such gamemode

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But here we are

oak wadi
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Area control is so boring imo

west gorge
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😭

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They couldn't find me

near cedar
tall flicker
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No it's not lmao

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It's not the gamemode of the year, but it's still fun

west gorge
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Haven't played in a few weeks and fell off

near cedar
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I guess to each their own.

humble finch
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What game mode?

west gorge
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It's been awhile since I've played and lost ma flow
7k dmg 2kos nah bro
Why do multiple non rapids have mobility on par on better than most rapids

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I should not be struggling to catch up to them

potent osprey
# west gorge I should not be struggling to catch up to them

Tbf Tsu isn't exactly specialized in speed and isn't supposed to be, what she is good at is stamina and agility. You won't be as fast as them but if you reload manage and never use all your alpha's you will eventually catch up or outrun them. Just need patience.

restive ivy
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What’s the best build for Tsuyu

humble finch
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Finally the weekend arived

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A new day to get wasted and play tsu

humble nacelle
west gorge
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Its not us who rely on our sa it's our tm8s

shy hamlet
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ribbit

humble finch
shy hamlet
humble finch
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Ooh

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Wanna be my friend?

oak wadi
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fastest log ive ever seen

humble finch
# oak wadi

Wen i looked at it i was like cant be that fast,then chuckled wen i saw how fast he was with alt f4

oak wadi
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The last thing afo sees on the UA map

oak wadi
half ermine
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winning a match with 6969 damage

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and 6 kos

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ace lobbies too

glass wing
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I just want to see what other Froppy mains think.

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Warning, it's a massive wall of text.

remote ocean
# glass wing I made this post here on Reddit regarding how I would change Froppy without gutt...

This is coming from someone who has mained Froppy since season 1 so I can give feedback
The main reason that an uptick of people wanting a Froppy nerf is down to the global movement changes to all characters, Froppy was one of the biggest winners from this update and since then, a lot of people are starting to despise playing against her.

You offered a lot of buffs and nerfs so I'll go over the ones I find interesting.
1 nerf I will 100% agree with is that she needs her Special Action nerfed, just reverting it back to 60 seconds is perfectly fine.

I seen a lot of people suggesting reload nerfs speed for her, the one suggestion I can get behind is that she has to touch the ground to start reloading her Alpha rather gaining it mid-air. However I don't see a reason to nerf her Beta reload speed, she would become a lot worse in a team fight if she receives this nerf.

I also think the damage nerf you suggested is too much. 245 damage means her combo won't be able to 2HKO 250hp characters anymore such as Rapid Bakugo, Lemillion and Nagant. These are highly mobile characters, you should be rewarded to down them if you get them with froppy's combo twice. If I had to nerf her Alpha Damage, I would decrease it from 75 to 70. Doing her main combo twice means you're doing 480 damage instead of 490. This can avoid 2HKOing 300hp characters with Strike teammates and Fixer in her current state.

Finally she is way too small and mobile to have more HP than 250, I don't find survivability with her an issue.

2HKO = Fropy (Alpha Beta + Ground Beta Combo)

oak wadi
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I think she’s good as she is, players just need to remember she can’t run in a small circle. It takes aim to hit her

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I would say to nerf her alpha movement very slightly. But it’s crazy how we aren’t talking about nerfing lida right now who is at the strongest point I’ve ever seen that character.

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I think it’s also a fair nerf on her special action but then again people will just use tuning to get it back.

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To add to that. Not to mention how incredibly easy it is to roll her attacks. Maybe except for her alpha.

stray cape
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ngl ppl need to remember its sometimes not the character its the tunning

oak wadi
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In tsuyus case it is 100% the tuning 😂

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Reinforced revive is a must unless you are in solos.

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On top of that it just got buffed to restore full gp at level 11

stray cape
oak wadi
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Haters are gonna hate

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And yknow what

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Unlike seriously broken characters of the past like hawks when he was released, nagant when she released and several others

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Tsuyu has never gotten 20k damage in a match regularly

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Not even 12k on a good day.

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She’s a skill character

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She takes aim

stray cape
oak wadi
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Much prediction because of how easily people can roll our main damage attack, the beta

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And there’s three charges on level 4.

stray cape
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yup but i wonder would they still call us annoying when they have a 300 hp iida now

oak wadi
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and rapid deku literally having a free combo starter with his gamma.

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Ida never needed a buff either. Now he’s just a beast of a solo character you can’t really hope to beat as a tsuyu

stray cape
humble finch
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Do they want to nerf tsu again?

remote ocean
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They listen to the JP scene a lot more than the NA / EU scene

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Iida was at the bottom or near the bottom in a lot of JP tier lists

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Same with Ibara

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and they both recieved big buffs over the last few patch notes

stray cape
west gorge
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Honestly I completely agree

junior raptor
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how do you lot not get bored of froppy genuine question, she was my first main but she feels sooo one dimensional all u do is alpha beta and run away Imao. any fun builds or something

near cedar
junior raptor
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I might just play her againAsui

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what goes w reinforced revive forgot her tunings

west gorge
oak wadi
# half ermine

Girl you need to get off the game for awhile 😭😭😭

junior raptor
half ermine
oak wadi
half ermine
oak wadi
half ermine
oak wadi
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Oh Oop lmao

half ermine
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I don't really have matches with negative points so that's probably a reason

oak wadi
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Just wait till the next season kicks in 😂

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Oh man I’m gonna get stuck in the expert trenches again

oak wadi
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aim moments

oak wadi
west gorge
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I love tsu soo much

gloomy atlas
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😭

west gorge
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I genuinely 100% believe imo that anyone believing froppy needs severe nerfs or is broken has a skill issue

oak wadi
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I just won a solo against a teaming nejire, dabi, two teaming nagants, and a kendo who I must’ve scared horribly because she kept camping in a room 😭

west gorge
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😭

half ermine
oak wadi
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We would genuinely be unkillable 😭😭😭

west gorge
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😭

west gorge
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Lowk 4th alpha would be valid if they ever nerfed her alpha cd

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Have some alpha for combos and extra for mobility

west gorge
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Hear me out, frog buffs

Gamma

allows us to heal while climbing stuff
allows us to climb any wall even ceilings upside down
can be activated while healing or rezing without canceling the action

Beta

Is more consistent on GP
Extra ammo at lv9

Alpha

Ground alpha end lag is removed
When holding alpha you can hook and grapple onto a platform like irl and just swing (instead of normally using alpha which connects and sends you flying immediately you can use it as a hook to suspend yourself mid like tying your to a bridge)
Alpha can also hook onto allies or pull them towards you when crouching

Melee

Ist hit has decreased dp and more dmg (could either evenly spread the full string dmg or add extra to the 1st hit only)

Tunning

The overall sound of the user is decreased (healing/footsteps) and the camo shadow no longer exists

(These are just buffs I had in mind to counteract the horrible ideas I've seen people have for her being nerfed)

half ermine
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Her beta is janky as is

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And the main gripe i do have is the alpha end lag is just too big if you don't hit anything

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Even the alpha damage nerf is unwarranted when you have menaces like tech shiggy and nagant

oak wadi
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Hear me out her alpha damage is fine, you need serious aim to land it half the time especially on characters in the air. People complaining about her alpha damage are the same characters that usually rely on air movement and running away when possible. Tsuyu isn’t a support character. She is a rapid. The first added rapid, she’s gone through all the buffs the nerfs, everything. Nerfing or buffing her in the game right now when she’s already had three years of development atleast??? That’s not broken. That’s a skill issue.

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Do I think nagants damage is still annoying? Yes, but she’s not broken anymore so I won’t really complain about her. But she’s also not gutted which is also good

west gorge
oak wadi
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Tsuyu was definitely the biggest winner from that change

west gorge
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I'm sure yall had easy times bullying tokoyami and yafo

oak wadi
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Yes it very much was ✨ I started playing in season 13 is when I really got on, so I’m very new. But I’ve been doing my research on this games history

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Especially because that way I can build a reasonable argument against what needs a nerf, and what’s always been annoying and how skill leads into those factors

west gorge
oak wadi
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I think that’s reasonable but not completely possible for a variety of issues

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A lot of these buffs and nerfs straight up feel like punishing a group of players with specific mains

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Not that it matters too much thanks to the tuning system…

west gorge
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Tsu is easily countered by armor or denying her the opportunity to get in close which multiple characters can do

half ermine
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Alot of people who complain about the frog is that she's just meta proof

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She has the mobility to keep up, she can chip, and she has a decent enough beta-beta for 200 ish damage
Her combo isn't true but if you're good enough at froppy like i am it's consistent enough with good position

half ermine
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This is just part of the bigger problem of ultra rumble where just half of the cast is just too good and optimized

stray cape
oak wadi
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I wish I could make this up

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Ibara needs a nerf

potent osprey
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Eh she's only scary if you get grabbed, they are so easy to bait tho

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If you land anywhere close?

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She's going after you like a bat out of hell with that grab

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Just be an annoying fly and land nowhere close enough to them, you will tick them off. Staying out of their range and predicting their alphas while still putting in damage will make that Ibara wishing she could catch ya. So as soon as you start getting close she's coming for that grab, that's what ya want. Iframe the grab --> beta counterattack --> dodge again --> beta counterattack --> change it up a little to be less predictable

west gorge
# stray cape i would say she needs one nerf

I'd only accept sa nerf
Tho it's not like that affects us it's our tm8s who rely on it not us

I'd even be fine if the cd was 1min 30sec, too many people treat frogs like pets and complain when we don't run reinforced rev

potent osprey
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Just gonna put this little something I finally decided to figure out after doing it by accident for so long 🙈

zinc hound
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my goat

west gorge
west gorge
zinc hound
potent osprey
potent osprey
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It's pretty hard to do I haven't been able to recreate it consistently till now.

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And I ran into it back in season 6 🙈

austere mountain
oak wadi
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who has no life? i have no life

austere mountain
oak wadi
austere mountain
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...1

oak wadi
quiet wigeon
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Just doing frog things

coarse yew
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One day we will get a 2nd battle set

oak wadi
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@humble nacelle do you know what in froppys movement was changed along with all the other characters?

humble nacelle
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Being completely honest I can’t tell exactly but I guessss something is different, it just feels like I have stick drift sometimes with my air movement

potent osprey
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lets goooo the finally confirmed that the tsu alpha canceling out is not a bug but an intended mechanic, as I have said for so long they just finally specifically confirmed it for her

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they made the timing even shorter tho which helps people who were doing it by accident

quiet wigeon
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What

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They basically said you can jump and then mash alpha immediately after and get the grapple

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Really good for Urakaka since she's so heavy

potent osprey
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yes but its not only limited to that, they said the changed the behavior in general to make it easier to count as aerial quirk skills.

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they made the cancel harder to do pretty much

quiet wigeon
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That's the whole point

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Rapid Bakugo can now force himself backwards with his alpha without leaving the ground

potent osprey
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I always thought it was weird he couldnt do that

quiet wigeon
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Moves did not count as aerial versions until after the feet left the ground

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Now they count as aerial as soon as you press jump

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And end when you land

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Giving a wider window

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Very good for everyone on the list

potent osprey
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yeah before even after your feet left the ground it could still cancel for tsu

quiet wigeon
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Why are you saying cancel

potent osprey
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hold up

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im in the lab testing things so I can show ya

quiet wigeon
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Still, why do you say cancel specifically

potent osprey
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because those are the exact conditions needed to make it happen, you need to jump at the sametime as alphaing

quiet wigeon
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I don't get it