Shoto Todoroki

[raven dock]

it works , but i think space hop works better because of the vertical jumps, you can "horizontal" jump without worry

without messing your alphas

[bright gyro]

I at least get my alpha to lvl 4 so I won’t have to be as accurate

[raven dock]

@obsidian tundra hear me out, Rapid Rapid Shoto

this worked so well on my last match

[obsidian tundra]

THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING

THATS THE TRUE RAPID SHOTO BUILD

CUZ SPIRALING LEAP CAN WORK OF JUMPING OFF WALLS

[obsidian tundra]

I dont have Kung fu but cyber has a similar tuning
Can't wait to abuse his speed

[bright gyro]

I was thinking about doing this too

[mortal hatch]

TF YOU MEAN THIS GAME HAD TWICH DROPS

AND IT HAD SHOTOS BEST EMOTE?!?!?!?!

[opal axle]

yup... back on s1. Only the true OGs have it

(I own it)

[bright gyro]

Dang it

[tulip drum]

...I mess with it

[tulip drum]

Yeah, it did at a point, kinda sad we don't do that no more low-key

[vocal mural]

Eh, Debatable. Still can’t cant up >>>>

Can’t belive I sold and couldn’t get it. All I had to do was buy the pass my first season back

[raven dock]

the most clean beta i've made

[raven dock]

@obsidian tundra @main bay finally beat my record

[obsidian tundra]

Holy W

[bright gyro]

STOP SWEATING

My highest ko game was 12

It was unranked lol

[raven dock]

Im playing normally man 😭

[main bay]

And it was in ranked 👏🏻
I hope you clipped the whole game, it will be interesting to see

[raven dock]

Sadly my pc crashes sometimes when I full record matches, I need to do a full optimization on him

[tulip drum]

C-c-c-c-c-clean

[raven dock]

gotta love the gamma predicts

[mortal hatch]

Mic is the fall man for you guys

As soon as his rein is brought down, people will notice the absolute absurd amount damage you guys do

[obsidian tundra]

Ok?
Pretty sure alot of strikes can do similar amount of damage comparing to strike shoto and yall are treating him as if he is too easy to play and master and to land all of his attacks

And he had that damage for so many seasons and none of yall were complaining

[obsidian tundra]

Yea its quite nice aiming your gamma mid fight and landing it
Never gets old 😭

[mortal hatch]

I came off the back of dying 3 times to yall deleting my hp in solos

Ignore me my anger was talking and I shall repent

[mortal hatch]

Yep, this was basically my experience T-T

Anyways any gamma tips?

[obsidian tundra]

Prediction

You have to throw it where the opponent is gonna be at

But your also vulnerable for a single second when you do that so its a bit of a risk

[obsidian tundra]

LOL
No worries

[mortal hatch]

My biggest problem is I keep doing the running one instead of the standing still one

[obsidian tundra]

Thats alot of people's problems with it lmao

[mortal hatch]

After the rage has worn off, I can tell that you guys have a lot harder to do damage with

I only think the beta is kinda bs sometimes

And definitely a lot more honest than other characters in this game

Your SA is a joke

Alpha is just the golden standard with some dot

And the gamma is hard to hit

Pretty honest character

[obsidian tundra]

Beta hitbox needs to be study cuz there can be an awful delay of the damage after you use it

And its too good at max level

[mortal hatch]

Could be worse

Could be strike bakugo gamma…

[obsidian tundra]

Its a bit inconsistent but in a good way

[raven dock]

Cleannnn

[vocal mural]

I know exactly what you mean, but it lowkey comes in clutch sometimes

[vocal mural]

Still don’t understand why he needs two 😭😭

[mortal hatch]

Tbf all his other skills are highly skill intensive

No stun, no tracking, not that big etc

[storm bridge]

Yo anyone have the alter and the new gatling? I have deku, toga alter, mad warrior and frenetic fire.. i don’t love them. Im ready to switch my account for someone that have just todo. I really don’t care of the others. I spend like 600$ and never got todo

So anyone that have todo or todo and all might with the new gatling im ready to switch. Without getting scam…

But i really want it

[storm bridge]

Nvm illegal i wont be ban for that

[raven dock]

@obsidian tundra strike version is superior for a reason

[obsidian tundra]

Bro you were outpacing the poor dude LMAO

Fire stuff

[sage vessel]

Picked up Strike Shoto again

HAVE I SLEPT ON THIS MONSTER?

Been having fun with Shoto.

Played him nonstop lol.

[fathom fractal]

Nice

Also nice gyro usage

[sage vessel]

Yep, I'm used to Gyro and so it helps me rather than put me at a disadvantage lol.

The amount of snipes I got with it.

Also eventually got this so, yeah!

[fathom fractal]

I knew switch players has the 2nd best potential because of gyro

[sage vessel]

It brings a LOT of potential yeah! If only aim assist wasn't frame dependent and Switch was actually optimized then we'd be at a fair playing field when it comes to crossplay.

[fathom fractal]

My powerscaling tier list goes

1. PC
2. Switch 2 (joycon as mouse)
3. Switch
4. Xbox and PS

Mhur in switch 2 doesnt have mouse yet so switch 1 gets the spot

[sage vessel]

That's bold, but I also happen to agree, yes!

Any character on PC is a demon, that's just how much of the advantage pc players have.

Like I've been envious of the Strike Shoto's here and so it made me main him, but he isn't as effective on the switch unlike on PC so yeah.

[fathom fractal]

mhur on pc is a different game for me, because i can do things with mnk that i cant do with controller

But i played the switch version with gyro

And i can do assault shiggy combos with that

[sage vessel]

It's a different game in general lol.

I'd list how but meh, it'd be a little off topic since we're not talking about Shoto here

So yeh

👍

[fathom fractal]

lol

[tulip drum]

The Xbox and PS slander is absurd

[vocal mural]

Switch above Xbox and PlayStation 🥀

[fathom fractal]

You guys downplay switch

Lil bros have the best version of twice

And other low fps exploits that i cant remember

[true moth]

j,adore shoto

[tulip drum]

Yo

@true moth @fathom fractal @vocal mural @sage vessel

What's your take on Shoto's ranking

[true moth]

yes bro

but i love shoto

[tulip drum]

I still think he's A tier

Despite the buff, he still has the same weaknesses

[true moth]

you dont speak french

[tulip drum]

Only thing that's changed that I'll say is even important is beta speed

[tulip drum]

No?

[true moth]

Shoto's weakness is air

hay bro

[tulip drum]

Air?

You've got me confused here

[true moth]

yes

no but what

[tulip drum]

Ok, you seem confused, where would you rank shoto?

[fathom fractal]

With mobility tunings like space hop and wallrunner id give him S tier

[tulip drum]

Ok, yeah, that checks out, but by that fact, he's always been S with those two tunings

But then again, alot of people are way higher thanks to that

[vocal mural]

What rank?

Or are you asking what I rank him

[raven dock]

Tier list

[raven dock]

If I might give my opinion here, he’s a high +A as-well, Right behind S, and lemme give some breakdowns on it
Shoto struggles against armor, if ain’t spamming gamma he can’t deal with those
Against aerial characters he has only alpha to play around, and it’s worst if the opponent plays safe, beta can’t help you much here
Worst special action in the game ( @mortal hatch yeah you won on this one )
Sometimes his gamma freezes but doesn’t allow any combos ( I have some clips to show this problem, I think it’s a ping relative )
Vertical mobility, without wall runner , space hop or speed cards, you’re cooked

Still my favorite character due to his fast paced alpha and melee scaling combos, others characters can’t do it like he can

Thanks @main bay for opening my eyes for more possibilities, I was a fan already but become even more, thanks to his knowledge

[vocal mural]

I have him at high A because of his quirk speed buff

[raven dock]

for me he already was A even before the buff

[vocal mural]

Understandable

[sage vessel]

Sorry, just woke up lol

Shoto's like High A tier/Low S tier for me.

It's pretty self explanatory cauze he's a monster, just a gamma and 2 alphas and you got a guard break

Actually...considering matchup's, he's still A tier, but like...low/mid A tier

His alpha's satisfying to hit, a good far range attack

Yeah, mid A tier

[obsidian tundra]

Yea here is my version of that build

[raven dock]

HOLY Reload you got there

[obsidian tundra]

Very quick to get my stuff back

[raven dock]

maaan a wish i had cyber hero

so many options

only pur skin i don't have

[obsidian tundra]

Man

Game gatekeeps people's favorite skins

[vocal mural]

Not bad for a warm up

Sadly I couldn’t find her, ended up getting her at the last 3 and won

[tulip drum]

I have to agree

[tulip drum]

I'll also agree with this
High A is where I put him honestly, and I think he's either 2nd highest at A or the standard that needs to be beat to be at S

[tulip drum]

https://youtu.be/hMegmPlVvQA

[vocal mural]

Agreed really clutch

[vocal mural]

I can’t find a game where people aren’t teaming

[raven dock]

so my wall's made of paper, got it

[vocal mural]

Like bro I swear this has been a issue all day, same with mfs getting no effect on my gamma

[shell osprey]

I apologize i had to put him down 💔

I wanted to join him in there but self defense 🥀

[raven dock]

i feel you

the game's joking at this point

[obsidian tundra]

Thats insane

[obsidian tundra]

Bro
Especially with the beta

[obsidian tundra]

Fun build

[obsidian tundra]

Rapid shoto supremacy 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[vocal summit]

[raven dock]

imagine you're this far on the sky and suddenly

[obsidian tundra]

THAT SNIPE WAS FIRE YOO

[cosmic aurora]

i decided to play this guy today wtf did the devs do

i 1v3 2 different final fights just today

like someone explain i havent played this guy since s6

why is his beta so dumb

who thought making it faster would be a good idea

[vocal mural]

Idk, but cheers to them 😭

[obsidian tundra]

W

[mortal hatch]

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO PLAY. THERE ARE 387.44 BILLION MILES OF BIOLOGICAL NEURONS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS OF A BRAIN THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR SHOTO AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. FOR SHOTO. HATE. HATE.

[vocal mural]

[raven dock]

I actually can’t believe I just read all that

[mortal hatch]

If you like it it’s just the “I have no mouth and I must scream” speech with a couple of words changed

Fun story btw

“Fun”

[raven dock]

Fair enough 😭

[mortal hatch]

Also f this character

My rage hasn’t fully subsided

Especially because I just died to a monoma using his quirks

[mortal hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-strangle-homer-bart-hurt-gif-16889632

[tulip drum]

It wasn't even shoto that did you dirty, it was the strike deku behind you

[tulip drum]

He didn't even hit you the second time

[mortal hatch]

He just finished me off

At least he didn’t do a super combo that did most of my health

[mortal hatch]

SA

[raven dock]

Pause
Yeah you’re Lucky, that combo it’s not even close to the most damaging one

[tulip drum]

To hate Shoto for his special action is absurd, you're a d1 hater, ngl, and I respect it

[steep skiff]

To be fair you missed at least one timing to get out of the combo and if you had special action you could’ve negated all that.
Also you’re playing with music which might have prevented you from hearing the Shoto running to you, he couldn’t have hit that was he not suuuuper close to you.

Other than that, I agree Red Shoto is busted and people have been sleeping on him since the first nerfs back in the early seasons.

[agile bluff]

Gotta try and get clips with him

[obsidian tundra]

This is why I dont use melee combos with strike shoto anymore

[raven dock]

only if he didn't drop that combo-

[obsidian tundra]

That slightest drop just ruined his kill lmao

[main bay]

Let's show some clips of my goat

[obsidian tundra]

LMAO the kiri part got me

[main bay]

Shoto's finishers are wild 💀😭

[vocal mural]

Unfortunate

[obsidian tundra]

Yea after fighting a good shoto player using embrit

There is an opening to the melee combo

[raven dock]

Kiri understood the assignment.

[grave shore]

Is there a build for him with wall runner and crushing pu, with good base tuning aswell?

[obsidian tundra]

There is his casual black outfit which has special strike and rapid

[grave shore]

How good is space hop on tech todo?

[obsidian tundra]

I haven't tried tech shoto in so many months so I honestly dont know ngl

[obsidian tundra]

Poor overhaul

[mortal hatch]

Fun…

[sage vessel]

-# To be fair you weren't looking 😭

HIS BETA CAN FREEZE?

[obsidian tundra]

Yea but it has to be at a specific spot

[obsidian tundra]

Gotta pay attention

[raven dock]

If you do the second melee twice, yes his beta can freeze

[raven dock]

I mean it was a Hawks, totally a win-win

[mortal hatch]

I was using a a trial ticket

I’ve barely played him

It’s not season 7 anymore

He’s pretty weak now after all the nerfs

[raven dock]

-# still a win if you ask me

And you can dodge the beta after his second melee hit, mainly on GP

Ping based but it works

[mortal hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/noelle-choke-gif-23309165

[mortal hatch]

A lot harder when your caught of Guard

[obsidian tundra]

Deltarune!!!

[obsidian tundra]

Pretty sure if a strike catches you off guard then your lowk dead

[raven dock]

He is a great opportunist character so yeah, one mistake and your entire health it’s gone

[vocal mural]

Yeah but it’s really rare

They have to be in the sweet spot

[unreal adder]

No

Literally just land the second melee hit

It add a part of freeze to the enemy

Then beta which has a freeze vaule will mix to then freeze the enemy hit

Every time

Making 2 melee into beta beta a consistent thing you can pull off

Well obviously if the enemy doesn't roll (even then you could just predict that) or they hyper armor through it

I could go on but I'll just vanish for now

[jolly roost]

Next season I'm going to work on a tech shoto build. I'm happy to share it with yall.

Fyi since momo got nerfed I've been using tech shoto and I think I might change my role to tech shoto

I have never seen or came across an agressive tech shoto player ever and especially one that runs nejire leap+space hop.

That's my build for next season

[quaint stag]

Play both trust

They're still a peak duo imo

[eternal frigate]

when i use the l3 move on strike shoto can i also use the r1 move at the same time

like as they r frozen

??

[jolly roost]

lmao yeah i was just kidding about dropping her she still going to be in my rotation of characters. (i dont have a clear cut main)

I have just been enjoying tech shoto recently and going up close and stunning people. that was funny tho

[quaint stag]

Tech Shoto is also one of my most wanted characters, but until I get him my tech main of choice is Dabi :p

I picked out a "main" for each role but I mainly play Momo and Kendo

[jolly roost]

dam hopes you get him but Man they really do need to give her something in compensation alpha or beta.

im out tho my bad shoto mains and or players for embarking in your character discussion. About another character we momo players need something tho

[eternal frigate]

@quaint stag @jolly roost can either of yall answer this?

[quaint stag]

Assuming those are PS controls I have no idea lmao

[eternal frigate]

oh ok

so for his 3rd move

the ice slide/barrage thing kind of

when it stomps

can u use the 2nd move ice wall

while they are stunned?

[quaint stag]

You can if you're close enough yeah

[tulip drum]

Gang what?

🤣🤣🤣

[obsidian tundra]

Trick i learn from strike shoto
Whenever im getting jumped
I always target the opponent at the far back instead of the ones infront of me

Like I shoot a gamma at the far back with some alphas lmao

[raven dock]

Bro didn’t expect that burst damage, if I was quicker I would gamma-melee

[vocal mural]

That PU saved you, he would’ve timed the beta perfectly

That’s my typa Strike Shoto

[raven dock]

I wasn’t the Dabi 😭

It was the pov of my streamer friend going against me

Not the only clip

[vocal mural]

Makes sense 😭😭

[raven dock]

my 50/50 but, better..

[round ingot]

can someone please tell me atuningfor todoroki strike

[raven dock]

so many options my friend, just go for any skin if you like it, all of them are good

[arctic orbit]

is there a way to cancel his gamma slide?

[raven dock]

only if you get hit or plus ultra

he can't cancel it manually

[mortal hatch]

What do I do in terms of tuning on strike shoto?

[vocal mural]

Gamma glide canceling would break him beyond belief 😭😭

That would be so powerful

[raven dock]

always focusing on alpha attack power and gamma if possible, if you prefer beta, slots level 4 also allows sometimes, if they don't have any, wall runner will do the job for you, this character still has damage

skins with fixer also do the job, i switched those two for fixer and space hop and i'm loving the damage output

the best skins out there are designed with
Wall Runner Skins, best if they have Level 11 slot
2-3 slots of strike, and one containing tech for kaminari
1 slot for rapid or support for gamma attack power

easy to tune

[strong osprey]

on purple todoroki what we thinking between wall runner / gp sucker on a HP sucker build

[jolly roost]

any day 1 shoto mains know if his special action used to stop people from moving back in the day?

[raven dock]

Nah, never was supposed to stun or stagger even on down state, only tick damage

[trail locust]

If you mean when they were down then yes

[jolly roost]

yes

didn't people complain about it so they removed it?

[trail locust]

it was more of a silent change

[obsidian tundra]

Lvl 1 shoto gamma prediction 🗣️

[raven dock]

cleannnnnnn

[vocal mural]

Should’ve definitely pressed up on that, especially after the heal, but that’s just my ego 😮‍💨

[obsidian tundra]

Tyty

[obsidian tundra]

I could but I wasn't in the mood + I want to loot up first + if he leads me to his team, im lowkey dead.

[vocal mural]

And that’s why you’re better than me 😂

[obsidian tundra]

😭

[obsidian tundra]

W

[raven dock]

ah man almost beat my record again

-# i wanna reach out roninlifts record so much

[obsidian tundra]

Damnn its peak either ways

[sharp breach]

For tech todoroki which should I max out first and i just acquired him btw

[unique agate]

Beta

Alpha

Gamma

[true moth]

hello

[raven dock]

[true moth]

yes i love shoto todoroki

[little ferry]

What is the best outfit for strike Todoroki

[raven dock]

this is personally my new favorite

covers up the wall runner, but the default one can work as well

[little ferry]

Okay

Any general tips for him?

I might decide to main him besides Twice and Rapid Ochaco because I had a lot of fun playing him

[raven dock]

Not much besides training your aim, sharpening your gamma predicts and combo, and playing more strategically with his beta

[vocal mural]

Someone go give Nejire a hug, I think she might need it 😭

[raven dock]

Man I can’t keep up with that ai voice on the background, I’m dying over here 😭

[obsidian tundra]

BRO THE VOICE LMAO 😭 😭 😭 😭

Anyways I think spiraling jump is balanced on strike shoto 🤔

[raven dock]

Did your beta just 318 or that was only 213 plus the gamma?

👀

[obsidian tundra]

Nah it was combined with the gamma

318 per beta is just ridiculous

[raven dock]

THANK GOD,
-# I’m not ready for another beta burst damage

[raven dock]

-# you forgot the time you could do more than 400?!

[obsidian tundra]

TRUE LMAO
450 to be precise 🤔

I might redo the whole idea soon

[raven dock]

And that was before the tuning scaling nerf, I wonder how much damage still does today 🤔

[obsidian tundra]

Might need to see to that soon 🤔

[grand wadi]

whats up shoto fans

looking for some suggestion on tuning for a build that would work for both versions

was debating like wall runner with either space hop, spiraling leap or high speed replenish. got any suggestions?

[vocal mural]

Space hop is for loserssssssss

Sorry maybe that’s a bit much

Spiral jump is more acceptable

[grand wadi]

lmao

mind elaborating? lol

@vocal mural

[vocal mural]

It’s sooo cheaap , watch me jump 8 meters in to the sky and absolutely incinerate you, it’s like using sisterly on strike dabi imo, completely unnecessary

It’s a skill issue, I’ll accept that, but is Soo cheap

Should’ve never been added

And don’t get me started on the Tech Denki’s who use it with their little aimbot 🫩

They’re the worst of the worst when it comes to it

[raven dock]

the WHAT

nah lmao why 😭

that thing peak on him

you can't be much closer to the ground for melee combos after jumps with spiral jump

[grand wadi]

🤣 well post the the builds guys

[vocal mural]

No offense or anything, but it’s definitely broken

😂

[grand wadi]

u should see the shinso chat talk about space hop lol

@vocal mural

[little ferry]

What should I upgrade first with Strike Todoroki

[raven dock]

i normally go for A4 - Y4 - A9 - B4 - Y9

better hitbox for alpha and gamma range does the work

@obsidian tundra @bold ibex @vocal mural maker of the beta flick, i present to you gamma flick

[obsidian tundra]

Ooo
Im pretty sure I did something similar once

[obsidian tundra]

This was pretty close to what you did

[raven dock]

360 flick on controller? INSANE

[obsidian tundra]

LOL
When my sensitivity is about 350

[little ferry]

What should I focus on with normal tunings for Strike Todoroki

[steep skiff]

Doesn’t really matter. I like Y reload speed, I have a bunch and I can basically chain them to move around since it reloads 85% while riding it.

[raven dock]

Alpha attack power and gamma reload, mostly

[little ferry]

Okay

How about special tunings?

[raven dock]

Wall runner, space hop, embrittlement, pu turbo, crashing pu charge, almost anything works with him

Fixer as well

[blissful palm]

I'm usually a Strike Shoto player btw

[blissful palm]

This is my first Tech Todo game in months

[opal axle]

I hit those

[leaden furnace]

combo tip for purple todoroki

beta > alpha

this tech takes a bit of time to get used to but right after you hit the beta you have to aim up and shoot alpha. Combo does 200+ damage at decent levels (7+). then camp wakeup with beta explosion (timing takes a while to understand but it's a bit generous ngl, and u should have good ping).

another combo is gamma into alpha but it's not rlly an actual combo it's just spamming. And also u can just combo anything from ur melee. M1 > beta > alpha for example

But melee is something u will like never hit on purple todoroki

I have a clip i'll share later of me and my teammate absolutely bodying a yendo (yellow kendo)

[raven dock]

I thought beta with alpha wasn’t consistent, you somehow got me curious on a character I don’t even have

[leaden furnace]

it's consistent if u hit the beta so that the enemy gets hit infront of you and not to the far side of you. ofc u can quickly flick ur camera but its best to hit the beta alpha when they are infront of u. u can see what i mean in this clip

[raven dock]

holy 207, and the explosion wasn't needed either

alright i feel you, i'm understanding now

[leaden furnace]

exactly. i didn't explosion once, that whole fight.

[leaden furnace]

yessir. I used to always play him and he was so fun back in the day, ever since hawks ruled the skies and other characters came to terrorize purple shoto, i haven't played him once. Most of my games i just get clapped because people play above me, or take advantage of how i rely on my beta and alpha for example if they had already managed to knock me down, they expect a beta from me and attack accordingly

that's my fault but i literally can't do anything. for example against an assault ochaco. i can't hit her out of the air with my alphas cuz i move slow when shooting my alphas and she can easily hit me

with a 150+ damage hunk of trash

[raven dock]

and her gamma can surpass yours

[raven dock]

already tried strike one? can be pretty much fun as well
-# i'm obv not glazing

[vocal mural]

Lezgo

[leaden furnace]

i've tried him so much but i can't seem to get my gammas consistently. that's just skill issue but i feel like if ur not surprise attacking with it people can easily dodge it. Also my aim isn't good on xbox so im trying my best lol. I hope they bring keyboard and mouse compatibility to console but i think it's only fair for that to be the case in crossplay. if u support this please like my feedback: #submitted-feedback message

[slate thorn]

has the purple shoto any combos?

[raven dock]

Gotcha!

[leaden furnace]

look at the messages above

I showed a combo

[raven dock]

my best alpha predict, yet

[obsidian tundra]

Holy shoot thats fire asf

[ember zenith]

Dude he’s the best character in the game

The only down side is his special action

[raven dock]

hah, i wish

i wish i was THAT confident

i mean he's strong in his own tier

but we gotta know he lacks simple things

like air weakness and armor flaws

he can lose to aerial characters if you don't aim good at them, and one simple character like assault kirishima can end his streak easily 🫠

i wish only the special action were the problem 😭

[ember zenith]

That’s true, he’s not truly the best but he is a pretty good striker

I main him mostly and he can be so good

[opal axle]

The downplay on strike todo is crazy

[dense perch]

Ikr

[obsidian tundra]

Pretty sure any one's main would justifiably downplay their character

[opal axle]

It’s a paid full time job at this point

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-8902231

[dense perch]

True it's like some sort of mental illness

[obsidian tundra]

I wouldn't say mental illness
Its just sometimes people downplay a character due to them having so much insight on how their main plays that others don't

[dense perch]

I'd say that's a mental illness 😭

[obsidian tundra]

Then ig we all are mentally sick

[dense perch]

Yes

"I played x so much I hear the voices" ahh

[obsidian tundra]

Im sure we all hear our main voices
But this is getting out of topic lol

[dense perch]

Yeah it is

[raven dock]

my dumbass took 2 literal seconds to see that froppy

[obsidian tundra]

😭 😭 😭

[vocal mural]

He had to process it 😭😭😭

[opal axle]

just like Duck Hunt

[obsidian tundra]

Damm 😭

[urban merlin]

whats his best skin for tuning

and should i play right now red or purple shoto

[raven dock]

red one, of course

[raven dock]

i would recommend kung fu default

or undef. default

[ancient root]

how do you hit 97 per aplha?

[raven dock]

Two strikes plus the fixer skin

That’s three alpha attack power buffs right there

[ancient root]

oh what skin is it on?

[raven dock]

Kung fu default, probably

[raven dock]

You can see mine did 99

Same skin and two strikers

That’s the power of fixer

[ancient root]

wow

i'd have to try it

[gritty sluice]

Is spacehop on todoroki good or dont u recommend??

Im using revenge assault and wallrunner for now

But wallrunner + spacehop could be cool too i thought

[obsidian tundra]

@raven dock whats your thoughts since you abused it?

🤔

[raven dock]

Really good if I’m being honest, it works pretty well as an substitute for wall runner, but it lacks when it doesn’t have the necessary altitude and you really need to get on some buildings
But if you’re thinking about space hop and wall runner, it basically turns you into real rapid shoto, literally

It tests your aim as well

[raven dock]

Hey! If you put it like that, it sounds bad 😂

[obsidian tundra]

Mb 😭 😭 😭

[gritty sluice]

I didnt use it

[ancient root]

on strike iit pretty is

is run space hop and srushing pu and i find it easier to get follow ups on wake up

cuz people dont expect you to jump 5 feet in the air

so you just jump and then you can rian down alphas or just a gamma

[gritty sluice]

Well i try now. Wallrunner is def a W and now i combine it with spacehop. Thankfully todo doesnt even need any damage increase. Hes so strong and powerful. He carried me to ace and i dont even main him.

[jolly roost]

Since you guy know all the ins and outs about fixer and attack power dmg'es. What should I put for maximum dmg @gritty sluice

?

@tranquil ridge

[tranquil ridge]

Swap Mirio for Rapid Bakugo.
As for the red slots, it depends on whether you want to specialize more toward higher damage on a single move or spreading your damage out more across all three moves.

[jolly roost]

ok thx i just went full (a) attack power on right and put gp attack power on left because I find it when people's gaurd break they tend to get scared and go on the run.

Also, when I have two red cards it does 100+ dmg! his peak alpha dmg 🥹

[tranquil ridge]

That was my rationale for choosing GP damage+ over HP damage+ on my Nejire build as well.
HP damage+ technically gives more damage on average because a lot of characters have more than 250 HP, but for chaser characters, getting the guard break can be more advantageous because it can make the enemy retreat sooner.

[jolly roost]

Yeah I agree. I also have to say that it would make sense to have hp attack power on a character that does burn dmg because it ignores gp but the tick dmg isn't worth it. In theory though, I'm not sure if any attack power increase tick dmg from fire attacks.

[tranquil ridge]

HP damage is definitely good for characters with true damage attacks, at least.

[gritty sluice]

Yes. Do the switch on bakugo with mirio but i would also consider to take Hp damage instead GP or take another Alpha. You biggest damagetool will be alpha and gama and enemies tend to have 250-400 hp.

Rapids you either catch with alpha or the beta i would say but beta already deals +200

I think todoroki has such good damage values, sp isnt needed for me.

[jolly roost]

I'm actually testing it right now @gritty sluice and I want play in the tournament. I was going to play tech but after playing strike litterally just now . Strike is the better option . My game plan is I'll use strike on the og map. And use momo and maybe, just maybe tech on the other two maps.

Strike shoto is way more better with hp attack power than tech because i can just shred with no knockdown

[ripe fern]

@opal axle ggs bro we cooked

[opal axle]

GGs bro

[jolly roost]

With the build that i have on strike my alpha does a wopping 114 with two strike cards applied and my gamma does 200+ sometimes idk why it does that. But it's normal dmg is 162

oh snarkels i know why it sometimes does 200+ bcuz when landed it near a wall it does 200 bcuz all the ice is together instead of it spreading out

[gritty sluice]

Strike todoroki is def one of the strongest characters in the game rn. With wallrunner you have a very good mobility too.

I became ace w him this season and i dont even main him.

But technically his gamma into alpha is like mtlady beta into alpha only that he deals 3 x times more damage

So i was comfortable playing him

[obsidian tundra]

Lil unique double beta combo i did

[raven dock]

you can do this one if you want too

[obsidian tundra]

Oooo

I might give that a shot

[steep skiff]

What downplay? The character is amazing and I don’t think anyone said otherwise

[quasi spoke]

yeah he’s actually meta again and better than tech shoto for a couple of seasons now

[opal axle]

Don’t worry about it

[quasi spoke]

I used to downplay him but I’ve seen firsthand with & against his beta and what it can do

[raven dock]

nah that was crazyyy

[obsidian tundra]

🔥

[quasi spoke]

Strike Shoto?

[raven dock]

Always 🔥

[quasi spoke]

dope, what's your tunes?

[raven dock]

Kung fu villain style

Space hop it’s just the right perk for him man

I feel like Wall runner wouldn’t help me in that 1v3

[quasi spoke]

yeah I need space hop fr

[quasi spoke]

what do you max first now? alpha first or gamma?

[raven dock]

Alpha first, gamma 4 then alpha 9

[quasi spoke]

beta last aye?

[raven dock]

If cards are in your way, beta 4 to 8 at least

[hallow coral]

Helloo!!, what is your tunning?, in this play?

[obsidian tundra]

Here

[winged dune]

Uh do y'all got any good tech shoto builds??

[raven dock]

anything for strike will work for tech, some good old alpha attack power with gamma reload, nothing too serious to figure it out

special tunnings the same as well

i will recommend this one for now

it's literally the global shoto skin

everyone has one for both shotos

[gritty sluice]

I use this

With Spacehop he becomes a total rapid

[gritty sluice]

3 times alpha + fixer doesnt work

The enhancement is all limited since tuning is nerfed

So u waste it

[raven dock]

nah it's not a waste, the tuning INDEED got nerfed, but fixer restores the original numbers to maximum to all slots under, so using fixer it's like using tunings pre-nerfs

i made the tests, before the nerfs was something about 2-3 ticks per slot, now it's only 1-2 per slot, fixer restores this original amount to three if it's level 10-11

a comparision between two skins of mine

two alphas vs three alphas powered by fixer

the three ones does more damage

92 with a single striker

the other one only 90 to 88

so indeed has a difference there, even if it's minimum

and i'm not a beta player, so alpha it's my priority on my skins

there are the comparisions

the first one with two alpha attack power

doing 88 to 90

and the second one with three instead, up to 95

or even 101 if there is three strikers

and yes i tested out skins with more strike slots without fixer, for some reason i can't reach the damage without the fixer tuning

so it's more like a choice of special tuning, the casual default having two mobility perks it's indeed good for him, but i don't consider the best one due to it's damage, even if shoto doesn't need all that power on alpha, the more damage, the better

and don't forget endeavor's tunning, that's a extra 2 damage to shield right there with fixer above it

[gritty sluice]

When i tested this with nejire and mtlady it didnt increase and stayed same

For example +8 and +12 deal both 54 damage on mtlady

Nejires damage stays same goo

Too

So its a mystery to me

3 times the same + fixer shouldnt enhance anymore

They just make what they want i guess idk

I gave up

[raven dock]

because it's a matter of %, not all damages can actually increase

[gritty sluice]

Thats unfair

The strong ones become stronger

The weak ones starve

So stupid

[raven dock]

there is a actual limit that fixer cannot surpass, only multiple classes can surpass that limit, it's ironic how this works but that how it is

single projetiles can grow stronger

while multiple projectiles barely can surpass that %

mt lady it's a good example, she has two projectiles, so multiply that damage per two, that's more than 100

if you actually hit those, of course

but still, for some reason they let the % for those skills barely keep up

[gritty sluice]

The concept is trash bc u miss mostly the second very eas

[raven dock]

all might per example, my alpha cannot surpass 77

[gritty sluice]

I wish it was like allmights alpha

Separate, less, but stronger

Tech mirios concept is better. More range, more ammount at least

And faster

[raven dock]

let's see how they will make tuning more "fair" on that topic, because that change needs to go

[gritty sluice]

Mtlady needs to go

Or a change

Im excited for tech mirio

Bc his alpha is an enhancement of mtladys alpha . So he will be fun i think

[raven dock]

plus the fact he becomes invencible while doing so

that character it's gonna break the game

[gritty sluice]

Seriously?? Didnt know. Wow

[jolly roost]

I tried using mt lady in ranked earlier it was the worst experience I had all season.
I tried using her giant mode on end circle it was pretty safe until I got shredded by a rapid all might and nejire...

She's one of those characters you'd use if playing in a good full team and they got your back by team healing. She's just not viable this day and age in mhur. (Unless you are a player that doesn't miss 98% of attacks, know how to do and land her best combo) which i aint.so yeah sorry for ranting

[gritty sluice]

True words.

[quasi spoke]

that's really global?

[raven dock]

yup, it's basically great/good for both shotos, depends how you wanna build it

you can beta/alpha full that one

and has necessary reloads too

[frozen escarp]

Any advice fr a noob

[raven dock]

besides hitting all your alphas and increasing your gamma predicts, you gotta know the basics, his gamma can be tuff to move around if you don't press it correctly, and it's easy to waste his beta

and watch out to his melee, just because has multiple hits doesn't mean you gotta throw them all the way

keep your enemy guessing, that's all about it
@obsidian tundra

[obsidian tundra]

Fire stuff

[quasi spoke]

you were the juice wrld guy, seen that name before

[raven dock]

got that name for a tournament, i'm waiting the 7 days so i can change back

[wet fiber]

yo question might sound stupid but what's the best device to play on mhur controller or kbm?

[opal axle]

Depends on what you’re more comfortable with. KBM are for the giga chads

[raven dock]

That can also depends on the character you play on

You can be good with both

[wet fiber]

i play with shoto

cuz aim assist is good bud only good at close range but kbm is beter in ranges and controls on controller are what easy to press etc but I usually play kbm almost all my game except cod so idk what to v
choose😭

[raven dock]

So keep kbm if that works better for you in this game, it’s suitable and always leave time for playing controller later as well!

[wet fiber]

arl thx for responding my dumbass questions 🫡

[raven dock]

No worries at all!

[raven dock]

@obsidian tundra the combo in action

[obsidian tundra]

Duly noted

[fathom fractal]

Whats your tuning costume?

[raven dock]

my main one used to be the villain style but wall runner it's getting me somewhere with fixer level 11

[fathom fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-hearteyes-eyes-tom-and-gif-24318898

I love fixer builds lol

Thanks

[raven dock]

no problem!

[oblique sundial]

Tips for tech shoto?

[raven dock]

just play around your gammas, there is not too much to explain here

[oblique sundial]

Bet

[obsidian tundra]

@raven dock I did another gamma flick lmaoo

[raven dock]

NAH on a Mirio?

WILD

[bright gyro]

I just played with that tuning but I think I will have to adjust to it

[vocal mural]

🔥🔥🔥SHOTO!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥

[raven dock]

"I ONLY MAXED OUT BETA ONE TIME I SWEAR" 😭

[leaden furnace]

so what's strike todo's best tuning now?? full burn??? I mean PU todoroki is LETHAL i'm telling you.

Wall runner + full burn??

[obsidian tundra]

Funny idea

Full burn + PU intensify

Already tested PU intensify
1 combo is 500+ damage

[leaden furnace]

are you serious? Wait how long does full burn and PU intensify then last for? PU intensify makes PU shorter but full burn makes it longer

[obsidian tundra]

So

Basically

Fullburn negate the effects of PU intensify (the lesser duration of it)

[leaden furnace]

SERIOUSLY

OH MA GOODNESS

[obsidian tundra]

Running them together you have the damage of PU intensify and the duration of fullburn

[leaden furnace]

But is PU intensify better than something like wall runner or card dupe?

[obsidian tundra]

Debatable

[leaden furnace]

I mean on strike todo like wall runner can be useful, no?

[obsidian tundra]

Sacrificing your survivability for a strong and more punishing PU

🤔

[obsidian tundra]

It is

Very

[leaden furnace]

What would u do

[obsidian tundra]

I would just have a wallrunner build with either PU tunings and another build that have both PU tunings
Then use which one I want depending on how im feeling

🤔

[leaden furnace]

Hmmm okay. should i build strike todo? is it worth it

[obsidian tundra]

Strike shoto

Is a VERY powerful character

If used properly

[leaden furnace]

but i'm inconsistent and i feel like im countered easily

[obsidian tundra]

Hence the "Used properly"
You just gotta get better with him

And used to him

[leaden furnace]

Hm ok

[raven dock]

Almost, still does, but still most part with increased duration

[obsidian tundra]

Ah

[raven dock]

Plus ultra it’s 18 seconds
Full Burn makes it 48 seconds
PU intensifies reduces by 10 seconds

So it makes 38 in total

So yeah pretty much still works

[raven dock]

Just gotta make it work, if you find consistent you can make everything work

Trust me

Strike shoto it’s worth it

[leaden furnace]

ok

[obsidian tundra]

Ic

[mortal hatch]

My skill on full display everybody

[raven dock]

my dumbass didn't saw that froppy at first

needed to rewatch to realize

can't judge on that one

[obsidian tundra]

😭 😭 😭 🙏 🙏 🙏

[vocal mural]

Valid flick?

[autumn wolf]

Okay now the same questions I asked for Strike Deku and Rapid Bakugo but for Tech Todoroki

[raven dock]

Almost, it went kinda slow but works

[raven dock]

And what’s the question?

[autumn wolf]

#1233262349842911234 message

[raven dock]

oh, alright, easy

beamer path : A9 - Y9 - B4
Safe Path ( Works globally ) - Y4 - B4 - A4 -Y9 - B9 - A9

usually alphas it's his best skill ( obvious reasons )

people like beta for the damage

and gamma for the range/burst damage

[autumn wolf]

So either Alpha or Beta

[raven dock]

alpha or gamma, for me at least

don't like beta max for its closeness issues

how easy it is to spam = easy to waste

[autumn wolf]

I thought the Beta would get longer tho

[raven dock]

yeah it does, but due to it's closeness issues, if you max beta first, no alpha damage and no gamma burst combos in less scale situations

and if you miss it

boom

that's 10 seconds to charge

two charges = 20 seconds

[autumn wolf]

I see

[vocal mural]

I’ll take it, been a min since I played

[raven dock]

fair

[vocal mural]

Still pretty accurate though

[quasi spoke]

rapid bakugo beta does damage?

[raven dock]

i was talking about shoto

and yeah his beta can do damage

it's not only for stun

i saw that shi doing 112 per hit

[raven dock]

they did it boys

they nerfed us

somehow they managed to

down power increased from 10 to 50

now easier to break those combos

just like strike bakugo's

[dense perch]

Finally 😭

[obsidian tundra]

I mean

It could have been worst

😭 😭

[bright gyro]

NOOOO

[static harbor]

This must be THE character (strike ver) with highest burst dmg

[dense perch]

Yep

Either him or mic

Or shinso even

[gritty sluice]

Does strike todoroki gamma into 2 alpha still work?

[raven dock]

the last hit or only the three ticks?

[gritty sluice]

When you u use ur gamma and shoot 2 alphas after

[raven dock]

yes you can

gamma is 300 down power

each alpha is 50

so that's only 400 in total

still more 2 possible before it breaks or a freeze combo

[static harbor]

Yeah

[bright gyro]

So you can't shoot 3 fireballs?

[raven dock]

if you shoot three first, that's 150 Down Power, add to the 300 freeze tick damage, that's 450, only one melee or one alpha before it breaks

[static harbor]

The only way to force a knockdown is by hitting two alpha then gamma then 2 alpha

[vocal mural]

💔💔💔

[wispy belfry]

How should I be using tech todoroki? I always preform bad when i use him

[quasi spoke]

max his gamma first, then beta alpha, safest way to use him now. if you have fixer, you can still try the beta alpha route.

[wispy belfry]

Okay, thank you!

[vocal mural]

How come gamma first?

I thought gamma always came last tbh

Though I haven’t used tech in awhile, mostly a strike main

[quasi spoke]

just safer

[static harbor]

I just spectated an evil of humanity

A strike shoto with electricity double beta

Imma be real

Strike shoto mains are unhinged and I am loving it

[static harbor]

Interesting

Cuz I always get beta 7
Then max gamma then alpha

[raven dock]

Just freeze tech and electricity isn’t needed 🔥

[obsidian tundra]

Still as fast as ever after my 2 weeks break 🤔

[raven dock]

Bro reverse cooked the Mirio

Dayum

[ancient root]

what are tech shoto's best matchups?

[quasi spoke]

iida, yellow shigaraki, AFO, momo, hawks, yellow kirishima, twice, & mount lady

[opal axle]

every kurogiri is on sight

[static harbor]

This thing is so unhinged 💔

[obsidian tundra]

😭 😭

[static harbor]

Like dawg if you’re a rapid you’re instantly dead😭

[gritty sluice]

Why or how does this meele reset the downpower??

[raven dock]

the melee only resets the freeze "countdown"

not the downpower itself

the combo can keep going

but if the opponent dodges somehow resets the downpower to 499

making the | gamma (3hits ) - melee - alpha - beta - alpha | possible

the beta is supposed to break the combo, not allowing any more alphas to hit

-# but their dodge resets this, making the last alpha possible

[gritty sluice]

Oh ok

Thank you

[raven dock]

you're welcome

[gritty sluice]

Im just a part time shoti

But still

[turbid hedge]

What tunings are good for strike shoto? I see the stock kung fu outfit is that one of the best?

[static harbor]

IMO kung fu and Undefeatable look the best

[shell barn]

There's nowhere for tech shoto so Is here good or nah?

[shell barn]

Screw it imma just ask opinions on tech Todoroki with perception and hope for the best?

Hear me out, his playstyle may not seem as suited to it as someone like rapid Mirio or tamaki for example however, his betas range is heavily underestimated and can penetrate any wall or ceiling at just about any angle and ditto with the betas explosion, his close range freeze mechanic which is severely underutilised on his alphas can prove as perfect set up for a melee and beta combo which then gives you exploitable wall hacks on the target thanks to his wall clipping beta. And even if the alpha doesnt end up converting to a freeze I typically land a few melee combos in my games no matter the character I am playing anyways, yes even tech todo (melees are just so useful in this game, especially when in a pinch). Also if you like the idea of this longshot that I am proposing, please recommend a second special tuning to pair with it. Wall runner is a no-brainer for shoto and especially with the tech variation where you can do melee roll cancels and other movement techs off of his beta and just in general run up it, Any other ideas for a secondary tuning for this or just a unique build for tech shoto? Just wanting to hear general thoughts on this theory as a whole. Thanks for taking the time to read and hopefully respond

Note: this is all speculation and I have no idea how it would play in-game, that's why I'm curious to hear other opinions

[shell barn]

@wanton mist

The whole rant above lol

Couldn't be bothered to rewrite nor paraphrase icl

Or flood #tuning-builds with a gazillion copy n pasted paragraphs

[wanton mist]

I shall read

[shell barn]

Goodluck

I look forward to hearing from you in 5-10 business days when you have completed the reading of the text

[wanton mist]

uhm got a lil distracted between reading this and replying but the way I see it it's probably an overpowered gimmick when it's online, just turning it on is hard. I don't play purple shoto much but also thought of the alpha freeze as a way to enable it, even though it has been nerfed afaik. you sadly can't combine it with wallrunner or else you could have tried turning it on like IbaraWithTheGamma hits her gammas (randomly jumping the enemy from some wall). Overall I feel it's probably a bit like perception red bakugo. great when you get it to work but hard to start getting to work. On bakugo it's probably a lot harder to get the melee though but afterwards you instawin, whereas I assume on Todo getting the melee is likely easier but you don't win quite as hard from getting it cause you can't chase. Also I do know the second official tourney winners ran sisterly on all their players including tech todo back when it was broken af, so I'm sure there's some ways to get your melees in as him.
So overall would I ever run perception todo myself? Nope but do I think it's a unique idea and could be spicy? Sure. My main issue is just that I don't see how you'll chase someone if they simply run away

[shell barn]

Thanks for the input man I really appreciate it 🙏

Yeah, that's what I thought also, I feel to make this build even semi-viable I must run it with wallrunner to enable chasing, however that still might not be enough to catch higher mobility players before they get that heal off

Currently what I'm most interested in tech shoto wise is that space hop you mentioned, to be honest I have little Idea as to how purple shotos beta would function whilst in the air but I believe it's similar to yellow kirishima Gamma right? Anyways playing around a beta, jumping on top and slamming down with one all sound pretty cool to me so be sure to lmk what the testing goes like 👍

[wanton mist]

oops forgot to update you on my testing

it's like...

very bad

I clipped some stuff but I'm not at the pc anymore

and will go to bed now, so if you want the "proof" you'll have to wait for tomorrow

but basically because shoto is a small character and has a pretty low space hop, and high level betas are really big. You basically need to place the betas at an angle where you can just normally run up them, even without wallrunner needed. And even at level 1 beta space hop doesn't reach high enough to get on the tip without climbing or tilting. If only he had dabi's space hop height, maybe things would be a lot better at least for the lower level betas

also when using beta in the air it just fast falls him, then uses ground beta, kinda like tech dabi gamma being used in the air, or yellow ochako gamma

[shell barn]

Yeah np I can wait, I'm curious to see the air beta fast fall

[shell barn]

How useful do you reckon the aerial beta fast fall things is?

[shell barn]

Also if I'm being completely honest I had no clue that different characters had diff space hop heights, do you know why that is? Is there a hidden stat which determines the space hop height or is it just how the devs chose it to be for each character?

[shell barn]

Is it a character size stat that causes variations in space hop height or does every character have a unique space hop height?

Sorry, just realised I'm bombarding you with questions rn lol

[wanton mist]

uhm probably pertty useless cause you still need a bit of time to cast even after you fall down

but lemme look for some clips

[wanton mist]

my current theory is that taller characters jump higher

dabi and ibara have great space hops at least

most others not as much

first part of testing:
https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/NZW1w7

[shell barn]

Hmm Intresting

What about characters like all might, endeavour and afo?

They are not only tall but pretty big too

[shell barn]

Awesome

As of now

Wall runner is looking so very appealing lol

I'm still interested in perception too

Afterall I'm not chasing THE most optimal build meta wise

Js wanna experiment and have fun

And you mentioned sisterly being ran on tech todo so I think I can make it work

Its not as bad as running something like momos sp tune or resist heat or cold lol

Tbh most meta for tech todo is prolly wallrunner + card dupe or double toga tunings

But doesn't sound as fun as an off-meta unique build

Like space hop

Or perception

[jolly roost]

Wall runner and Nejire leap was a good idea for tech shotos alpha but I bragged about so much in discord the devs nerfed his ice alpha the following season.....

[shell barn]

Lol I remember seeing the patch notes a while back and seeing the duration of the ice on his alpha being reduced and thinking "why have they don't that? Bit strange..."

Lol

Tech shoto has been gutted icl

His beta isn't in a bad place but his alpha has been gutted

And the flippin gamma needs a rework imo, its still good tho

[shell barn]

Wait so how does that work then?

What was the strat?

[wanton mist]

afaik AFO's space jump is also really high. Saw that one in a video iirc

[wanton mist]

I might check how well you can perform the beta for high ground play with wallrunner. Probably a lot better than with space hop though 😭

if you want perception on him you might need your other tune to be space hop if you still want some vertical mobility as well since he doesn't have a double blue hero costume

on the bright side those are the same costumes that can also run space hop card dupe, which is the tuning I've been wanting to try on red version

[shell barn]

Yeah, pretty sure you can do some melees and jump cancel tech when running off of his beta to get more air time or fling yourself in certain direction

[jolly roost]

yeah so basically it would prevent wake up spammers/gateaway abilities that people tend to use, to runaway. It does 100+ dmg if hit with alpha fire + ice standard. Nejire leap just gave that extra height/float to hit the ice more better.
But since they reduce the lingering effect it's hard to land now.

This build still allows to keep up the chase and it is good with beta to avoid attacks while aiming to activate the explosion. Beta,jump+aim.

And nejire leap gives the tech shoto player a better chance to land the beta on physical impact.

[jolly roost]

It was a heavy, aggressive, alpha stun oriented build that I was going for. And yeah i was like nooo, I'll never talk about my builds in discord ever again after that lol

crazy coincidence though ill say that forshures or bad timing hehe

I also have to note though if you jump to high it doesn't work

[shell barn]

Know of anyone else who has used this build? On yt or something like that? Curios to see it in action, even if it's only just a clip

[jolly roost]

I actually never seen anyone run nejire leap on him nor utilize and be aggresive with his alpha ice. One of the reasons I wanted to do it. I have no clips neither sadly. Xbox deletes clips automatically .

[hushed tangle]

Tech shoto tips and combos?

And lvl up order?

[quasi spoke]

alpha freeze into beta is one, then your alpha explosion but that's really a built-in mechanic not a combo

[quasi spoke]

if you're okay with having a two hit knockdown alpha, just level the alpha. your beta is good but won't save you from everything, you can level that first. gamma is the safest way to play him ATM imho. what I do is alpha 4, beta 4 gamma 9.

[shell barn]

What exactly is the benefit of having a higher level gamma?

Do you get more tornados or do they get bigger? And also how should I utilise the gamma correctly

[shell barn]

Unfortunate but thanks for the idea

[quasi spoke]

more damage and bigger size, 180° wide spread essentially while beta by itself is like 90° and the explosion can be rolled and telegraphed. and with how to use gamma, you can thirst more, walk inside of it, excels in tight spaces, use your 2nd one for behind you if needed, use your special as a mini 3rd gamma mix-up, more utility.

[shell barn]

Thanks

[shell barn]

Though there is a crucial error in your advice

Using the Sp.A as a mere mixup is a waste

You gotta save it for when your cornered

Like a secondary plus-ultra

It's the ace up your sleeve

And then...

USE IT!

-forrrr

Intimidation!

[quasi spoke]

lol

[hushed tangle]

Ok thx

[hushed tangle]

Should I get beta to 7 for tech shoto

[shell osprey]

Good tune build?

[raven dock]

do you plan that for strike or tech?

[shell osprey]

Tech for now. Maybe I'll take time to learn strike in the future

It probably works for both

[raven dock]

works better for tech, you know, beta damage scaling.

[shell osprey]

Yeah

[shell osprey]

Ice wall damage go brr

[raven dock]

add PU Power Intensified and it goes BRRR

[shell osprey]

Cinema

[shell barn]

Do you usually get the embrittlement proc often?

And when?

Like in what scenario and how many times per game?

[shell osprey]

Its not very often, but whenever I freeze someone who's too close with my alpha

Melee for the "get off me" vibe

And then they're embrit

Even then

Its not like I'm heavily relying on melee anyhow

[hushed tangle]

What should be a good tech shoto lvl up order

[shell osprey]

I usually do beta to 7 before getting alpha and gamma to 4

And then finish out beta

[hushed tangle]

Ok

[shell osprey]

From there usually alpha

[hushed tangle]

Thank you

[shell osprey]

Im not a tech shoto expert, but its worked for me

[shell barn]

Sisterly would be slightly more optimal right?

Ig it depends on ur playstyle and if u like to counterattack

But if u getting aggressively pushed whilst backing up and u land an alpha freeze

Sisterly sounds like the better option

[shell barn]

How many times per game ya say?

Roughly ofc

[shell osprey]

Hmmm

2 or 3 times

Most players aren't looking to come at me

Lmao

[shell barn]

And how many of those were superceding an alpha freeze?

Or just in general

What fraction of ur melees come from the alpha

Freeze

[shell osprey]

Like falling?

[shell barn]

Following*

Yeah

[shell osprey]

Don't really know??

If i freeze someone I just melee

[shell barn]

Aight

How many times

[shell osprey]

It only takes one melee for embrit to pop

[shell barn]

Do u land a freeze

Roughly

Per gamr

?

[shell osprey]

2 or 3 times

[shell barn]

Ahh

So

[shell osprey]

Usually more sometimes in close quarters

[shell barn]

100%?

[shell osprey]

But usually in those im spamming beta booms

[shell osprey]

75%

[shell barn]

Ahhh ok

Cool cool

[shell osprey]

Depending on the character, I might try the melee

[shell barn]

It's bc I'm thinking of

Making a build

[shell osprey]

Like if its a no mobility guy

[shell barn]

Perception tech shoto

It's a longshot

[shell osprey]

Oooh that sounds nasty

[shell barn]

U interested?

[shell osprey]

A little.

[shell barn]

1 sec my boy

[shell osprey]

But I do like my wallrunner too

[shell barn]

This ⬆️

[shell barn]

Yeah

Think I mentioned wall runner in the rant

Lol

[hushed tangle]

I need shoto tips I feel like im mid with him

[calm lance]

Has anyone remain a Todoroki Main if so which one do you main?

[shell barn]

Tech

[shell barn]

Bro was NOT interested 🙏

[shell osprey]

Watching a football game

[shell barn]

Lol

Fairs

[shell barn]

⬆️

When u want it

[raven dock]

Strike, easy

Still has potential

Not same indoors potential as tech but he can do some work

Incredible work btw

[hushed tangle]

What is tech shoto best tuning build

[shell barn]

Any one know or can test any tech shoto combos?

I feel like he could have combo potential but I haven't seen anything explaining it

You can shoot his alpha to the side during melee strings

And since the ice surrounds him 180°

You can JUST hit the ice without the fire blast

Feel like it could be good but idk

Idk if that could lead into beta or air melee or gamma etc...

But yeah

Maybe this could make him more viable to run iron fist, embrittlement on etc

Or tranceblow might be useful to extend combos

Idk

🤷‍♂️

Like this pretty much

wondering if there's any more potential tho

[quasi spoke]

that's good enough lol. he's boring as heII.

[jolly roost]

He can do that with gamma as well

[raven dock]

There is also his double beta, if you aim precisely you can hit it

-# don’t ask me how I know tech combos being a strike main

[shell barn]

Yuh, is it consistent?

[shell barn]

...

[quasi spoke]

I speak the truth.

[shell barn]

That's what makes it so bad.

[raven dock]

Sadly no, to be honest, you need the second charge as well, and it’s a matter of timing and aim, it’s not easy to pull out consistently

But it works

And the damage goes through sky rocket

Mainly if you have multiple beta attack power plus fixer

[shell barn]

Could rapid cards make it more consistent to land?

[raven dock]

It’s kinda easy to do without them, but yeah it helps

Sadly incentives spam, considering you won’t have time to activate the second one if the first its missed

[shell barn]

Does it only work on hp?

Or gp too?

[raven dock]

I’ve seen it working in GP as well, but it’s harder, you need even more speed precisely on this one

[shell barn]

Thanks

[raven dock]

You’re welcome

[shell barn]

Noice

[hushed tangle]

Yo

What’s some good tuning for the kung fu outffit base

[raven dock]

that depends, are you aiming for tech or strike?

[hushed tangle]

Tech

[raven dock]

here then

works good for both

you can switch hp ones for betas if you'd like

[hushed tangle]

Thx

[raven dock]

np!

[hushed tangle]

What hp ones

[raven dock]

Present Mic, if you don't have other picks, i mean

build it's very well balanced

[hushed tangle]

Should I go beta dmg?

[raven dock]

if you play better with the beta, of course, that's a personal pick

i'm always aiming for the alphas

[hushed tangle]

Same

Ima just do present mic

Btw I don’t have assault endeavor

[raven dock]

present mic, endeavor or full bullet's also works, more gp damage can "combo" well with the GP attack power from Endeavor

[raven dock]

that's an assault choice

so go with whatever you'd like

[hushed tangle]

Ok

[raven dock]

my personal recommendation?
Quirk Skill A Defense
Quirk Skill B Defense
Melee Defense

[hushed tangle]

Should I keep spiraling leap or use fixer

[raven dock]

fixer for better damage, go spiral leap if you want even more movement

[hushed tangle]

I’ll go dmg

Btw what’s your lvl up order

[raven dock]

just a chill guy not even bothering with the dodges

[shell barn]

For tech shoto? It's preference tbh but I personally go

1/7/1 > 4/7/1 > 4/7/4 > 4/9/4 > 9/9/4

Feel like getting beta to 7 is great tbh

[shell barn]

For tech shoto? It's preference tbh but I personally go

1/7/1 > 4/7/1 > 4/7/4 > 4/9/4 > 9/9/4

Feel like getting beta to 7 is great tbh

[hushed tangle]

Ok

[hushed tangle]

Ima do third one

[bold ibex]

Not as active as before but my goat is still OP (I emoted on the Endeavor cause he was toxic in the lobby)

[shell barn]

Bros got his own signature move lol

🦅 👊 🧊

Comes swooping down with melee into a 9ft tall iceberg on the poor guys below

[bold ibex]

This is so fun to pull off 🤣😭

[raven dock]

Ayo the goat is back

Fire movement as always

🔥

[bold ibex]

You're the goat man not me, I don't really have much time to play anymore (my gf nerfed me hard 💀) and I think that during my absence you became the best Strike Shoto in the game right now, I just comfort myself by thinking that maybe I still hold the #1 spot on PlayStation so I'm fine 🤣

[raven dock]

🫠

gonna make y'all proud

[quasi spoke]

Fire Only Challenge

[zenith kayak]

Whats the best tunning outfit?

[raven dock]

Kung fu default, personally

[zenith kayak]

I have the fantasy one idk if its good

[raven dock]

It can work as well, the best versions are ( my opinion )

1. Dangerous version
2. Villain version
3. Default Version

I think there is people using fancy for tech one, but it’s just reload based

[zenith kayak]

I can get villian version of it

And dangerous

[zenith kayak]

Am playing strike shoto

[raven dock]

Dangerous is double assault, so it’s good for kendo, shiggy and ochako

Even my lady