Shoto Todoroki

[tulip drum]

Gamma alpha alpha

Gamma into melee into beta if they in range

If they are on HP, beta into alpha if you're fast enough

Gamma beta alpha

Melee 1 and 2, repeat, then beta twice in a row with a level 9 beta, that's it

[supple agate]

Are there any videos of these?

I’m gonna be trying stile todo

[wheat rivet]

Melee 1/2 X4, beta. The only you you will ever need

[steep skiff]

Look for media in this channel

Especially if posted by nakani.izumi

[supple agate]

K

[main bay]

Gamma > beta > alpha with strike Shoto is theoretically impossible, it only happened to me once and it was a bug

Why ?

Shoto has a 10+ hit limit before the enemy is FORCED to knockdown

Gamma > hits 6 (1 tick = 2 hits, gamma do 3 ticks on impact so we got 6)

Beta > hits 4

So gamma > beta gives 10 hits, the enemy will definitely fall, you can't do alpha after this

Here are the tests I did

5 alpha = 1 hit (1 alpha do 0,2)

Gamma (1 tick = 2 hits it does 3 ticks, so gamma do 6)

Beta = 4 hits

First melee = 1 hit

Max hit LIMIT before the enemy falls > 10+ hits

But you can do gamma > alpha > beta, because for exemple if your combo hits 9 you still can do beta, the opponent knowdown only if you hit older than 10 but never under, the combo will do 13 but it's okay, limit is 10+

If you touche or hit more than 10 > your combo stop immediately

Hope this helps people to understand how Strike Shoto works ! (Yes, I know everything about him)

[obsidian tundra]

Actually

Here is a vid that explains strike shoto https://youtu.be/RrxtHftj_tA?si=XeAOqkUPe8l8O2g-

For those who wants to play it

Made by @raven dock

[raven dock]

Yo, appreciate it for the credits

[supple agate]

Thanks for the info

[grand wadi]

wyt of the feedback i left for a new shoto special action?

[bright gyro]

Thanks I watched it, can I still do all the stuff you do on console?

[obsidian tundra]

Yes

[bright gyro]

i appreciate it goku

[obsidian tundra]

The thanks go for this guy up here cuz he made this stuff 👆

[main bay]

1v3, my beta hit 298 damage gamma hit 233 alpha hit 125 with all my boosts (tuning and plus ultra) my goat is a NIGHTMARE 💀💀

[obsidian tundra]

BEAUTIFUL

[main bay]

Thanks !!

[obsidian tundra]

Yw
I just love seeing good strike shoto content these days

[bright gyro]

U proud of me? Yesterday I almost won 3 games entirely by myself trust me I was cooking most kos I got was 5

[obsidian tundra]

Show footage

[bright gyro]

I didn’t clip it

[bright gyro]

W stick man animation love it

[obsidian tundra]

Uhh thanks?
It isn’t mine lmao

[bright gyro]

I know you silly

[main bay]

Shoto combos 🧊🔥

[obsidian tundra]

Strike shoto combos are so satisfying

[main bay]

Yeah really! This character is so good

[bright gyro]

Yesterday I did a gamma two melee and two alpha’s and cooked the mess out of BAKUGO that man todoroki is lowkey busted

[bright gyro]

Facts

[mild mauve]

I like strike shoto but im bad at hitting his alphas somehow

[tulip drum]

Peak

[tulip drum]

Kendo so deserves that, that's wonderful honestly

[tulip drum]

It's crazy to me that it took a hp buff for people to see what I already saw

But I ain't hating, shoto up now

[obsidian tundra]

Real ones main strike shoto before the buff

[tulip drum]

True, but the realest are the ones who just happy shoto is in the spot light more

[obsidian tundra]

Thats me!!!!

[tulip drum]

Nice

[steep skiff]

Honestly, this channel was more about Strike Shoto than Tech Shoto way before the buffs

I started playing Red Shoto again when he was at his lowest just because I grew bored of Tech Shoto x)

I think people generally like Strike Shoto more because he’s just more fun

[granite ledge]

Honestly I'd say Strike Shoto is funner then Tech shoto

I don't even remember if Tech Shoto has any movement

[steep skiff]

Not really

B can bridge/make ramps

[dark pike]

Unlike Strike Shoto, Tech Shoto is way more straightforward and doesn't have much techs and combos, so there's naturally a lot more to talk about Strike Shoto

[tulip drum]

I don't agree with that, both are fun, to the same degree if you asked me, what I think is the issue is that people call tech skill less, which is true and not true all at once, which does take away the fun of playing him. The views of others does influence your own fun to a certain degree, so it would make sense for people to play strike more than tech. It's like the same thing with why people play assault deku more than strike despite being the same amount of fun if not more, but thanks to people calling strike deku skill less, people pick assault more. At least people who play for fun and not the meta players

[tulip drum]

Kinda, kinda not, tech shoto is a walking fortress, strike is a bazooka that hits one person VERY HARD

You can play tech shoto as a mobile fortress with tuning, an aggressive fortress or just a fortress

Strike shoto can be played as skate 3 simulator, it you like riding his ice, you can play him as Mr gun em down also and lastly, Mr shotgun with his beta

Both have their ups and downs but both are still fun

[dark pike]

I definitely don't agree with the sentiment that Tech Shoto is skilless, you can definitely win with him by playing braindead since he is a Top 5 character, but there are many tactics that you can do with him to get even better and become more unbeatable. As well as different playstyles that can work with him. Even with a seemingly braindead character like Tech Shoto there's still a lot to learn and experiment if you want to.

I was talking more in the sense on why there's so much more discussion about improving with Strike Shoto than Tech Shoto. Cuz it's a lot easier to talk about tech and combos than it is to talk about tactics which usually take longer explanations.

[tulip drum]

I'm sure I wrote that "people think he's skill less, which is true and not true" but okay, I guess I got to read a paragraph now

[tulip drum]

I don't think tactics is the right word honestly

More of matchups if anything

[dark pike]

What I'm thinking of is more like tactics, running into your Gamma so you're invulnerable to projectiles from all angles, making a double Beta skyscraper and raining Alphas from above, placing Alpha ice down when being chased by melee characters, and I'm sure there's more I don't know

[tulip drum]

Hmm, fair enough

[mild mauve]

i think tech shoto quirks offers more than strikes

his alpha is the best quirk in the game

[mild mauve]

yea with tech shoto you just spam everything xd

but there are so decent combos

i feel like hitting your alphas is also enough to kill everybody

[mild mauve]

@main bay leveling gamma to 9 first feels nice

im bad at hitting alpha so gamma max feels worth to me

[tulip drum]

No, that easily goes to Toga or Allmight's or Aizawa's technically, honestly the idea of a best alpha is ridiculous

Because it's kinda dependent on the player

I mean yeah, the alpha is strong but isn't compress's stronger?

Stun lock of death basically

It's kinda a situation kind of question

Which alpha is best at what range and what situation

[steep skiff]

G9 on Strike Shoto is my goto as well, feels so good

[mild mauve]

tech shoto alpha does so much and you dont need lvl 7 to be good as compress

his alphas are so big and fast and also does a lot of dmg

and if you get into his melee range you can do even more dmg and stun them

it is basically a counter for melee characters

thats why i think its the best. because it does so much

toga alphas are really strong but im not only considering the dmg

tech shoto alpha has so much utility

[main bay]

Not my best but still great games

[tulip drum]

Every alpha has utility, but I get what you're saying, to each their own

[main bay]

[obsidian tundra]

Peak strike shoto stuff

[blissful palm]

What's your secret jesus

I used to play Strike Shoto a lot until Tech Shoto came out

Now I'm rusty

[timber mortar]

how can i avoid making tech shoto beta breaking?

like if i want to block a doorway

[main bay]

I don't have any secrets, it's just that I only play Shoto and no one else since season 1 😭

[main bay]

I know y'all love see Shoto clips

[steep skiff]

That juicy double Down daaaamn

[obsidian tundra]

We all love to see it

[bright gyro]

What do u usually upgrade first

[main bay]

Gamma 4
Alpha 9
Gamma 9
Beta 9

But for example, if I get a lot of Y red cards and my gamma is at level 7, I'll make it level 9, even though my Alpha isn't there yet

I think maxing out Gamma 9 from the start is a bad idea, Shoto needs damage on his Alpha to be really good If you don't level up his Alpha, you're missing a big part of his potential

[bright gyro]

Good (I barely play the game but when I do it will be useful)

[obsidian tundra]

ALL STRIKE SHOTO MAINS

I WOULD LIKE TO DO CUSTOMS WITH YALL

[wheat rivet]

👀

[main bay]

I love this idea

[raven dock]

if possible count me in

[steep skiff]

@main bay GGs! I was the Red Bakugo

Finally got to fight you (somewhat, in this chaos lol)

I thought it was you from the beginning considering the skin and skill lol x)

[main bay]

Ooh gg bro, I had a doubt it was you 😭

[steep skiff]

My punishment for not playing Strike Shoto, I've not been feeling it lately, I need to farm some level up materials for tunings so that I can use the set you're using w/ wall run because I'm missing the mobility rn

I was expecting crossplay to bring more "free kills" but honestly playstation players have been kind of fire this morning

There's less chasing, less kills overall but people fight for way longer, and I missed the ability to reposition to heal / group heal, as I have Red Baku w/ wall run I can move around way easier.
Once I get wall run on Strike Shoto I hope I can get back in business.

[main bay]

PC players seem good too, I don’t feel a huge difference but I think there is one, and yeah Iida SP tuning on Shoto is absolutely essential, it’s just TOO USEFUL, right now I’m trying the red Kirishima SP tuning, and it’s pretty good too

[steep skiff]

I love Red Kirishima

It breaks the combo you're in, more often than not you're gonna survive especially w/ Strike Shoto's Gamma and wall run

I'm running Red Kiri and Iida on Red Bakugo I love it

[main bay]

Yep it can really save you sometimes, I don’t know if it's better than Red Shiggy tuning because now if I have one red mate in my team, my Alpha do 100 damage, so if I play red shiggy SP it's basically "you're frozen ? You're dead" combos hit so hard

[steep skiff]

Yeah true

[steep skiff]

Thoughts on double Yellow Shoto? (Kendo and yellow Shiggy SP for Gamma > Melee combos or straight melee combos)

You’re giving up wall running so that’s gonna be a no from me

But the option is there

Melee melee Beta Melee melee beta is a true combo iirc
Gamma Melee Beta too
Technically possible to roll between the 2nd melee and the Beta but no body does.

[raven dock]

If I can have a say in that, it’s a bad thing giving up wall runner but your combos can Insta kill most of the time ( even considering the burning dps from your melees and alpha )

Most of the situations

We can fix that by using speed cards

[steep skiff]

Yeah it’s probably an option

I like the wallrunner + red Kiri SP w/ almost each slots being damage or cooldown reduction

I honestly feel the damage you get from the tunings is difference making

Red Deku going from 110 to 120 wasn’t as impactful as Red Shoto going from 70 to 80

[tall thunder]

No 🤤

[gritty mesa]

All his moves protect him as he throws them out i don't see why not 👀 👀 👀

[tall thunder]

Dealing damage is for the weak

Real skill is found in victory without violence

[gritty mesa]

Facts my team got 18 kills with me barely fighting (i got video proof)

[main bay]

Same, I can't do a build without wall running, Shoto need this tuning

[bright gyro]

I also TODed a froppy

[steep skiff]

Yeah I completed my build with the new season rewards, wall runner is game changing, I feel like I’m playing a different character it’s amazing

I feel way better with it, I don’t think I could play without it now

And using the same costume as you, I have a ton of damage and cooldown reduction which is cool

I’m tempted to go for Y4 A4 B4 A9 Y9 B9 now

Basically B4 early, doesn’t slow me down that much, but without Twice’s SP tuning I’m spending way more time with B1 and I’m noticing more and more that I don’t like it.

Idk if the wall gets sturdier but it feels like so and it blocks building entrances better alongside being harder to dodge

Also B1 looks ugly

[bright gyro]

….

[main bay]

Yeah wall running is essential on Shoto, it's very useful, and for your level up order, I'd say everyone plays Shoto in their own way

Personally, as long as my Alpha and Gamma aren't at level 9, I don't max beta, and I have no problem with that, I find Beta "situational" while Alpha and Gamma are always used

[main bay]

Nice game gg !!

[steep skiff]

Sorry it took me so long to type my message I didn’t see your picture, didn’t mean to flood the channel my bad! Good stuff!

[steep skiff]

I’m starting to use it more, maybe it’s the hype of the moment because I’m just now starting to learn to use it in a smarter way.

[raven dock]

is this combo allowed fam? ( high volume alert )

[steep skiff]

Daaaaaam niiiiiiiice

My next goal is to be as smooth as this

[sage vessel]

heya, need some tips for him.

Recently tried him and man he's fun, just freeze and go, though no mobility 💔

Any Strike tips would be fine.

[bright gyro]

Todo is super fun

Loving him currently

[steep skiff]

Gamma goes quite fast on a 4s reload

[raven dock]

he has great horizontal mobility but we can fix that lack of vertical mobility with speed cards or iida's special tuning, wall runner gonna be SUPER helpful for strike shoto

[main bay]

Nice combo but it's almost impossible to pull off because you go over the 10 hit limit before the enemy gets knocked down

Gamma does 6 (each tick is 2), air melee is 5, so that makes 11 the enemy gets knocked down immediately

If your combo worked, it was only by chance because you froze him from too far away because of the hitbox, so he took only 1 tick of Gamma instead of 3, that means a cost of 2, with air melee at 5, that makes 7, so it did not go over 10, and you could continue

But GG, it was still a good move ! Just impossible to pull off in 99% of situations

[raven dock]

yea i know, but i realized if the gamma hits only one tick, aerial melee into ground melee is possible, only hoping for one tick next time

i still prefer my 50/50 reset combo, less stylish but still works

[main bay]

Good vision, nice to see good Shoto players

[obsidian tundra]

Most unexpected PU in solos ever

I tried to heal up because she has the option to disengage the fight but apparently she died for being aggressive

[blissful palm]

What does "tick" mean?

[raven dock]

Tick means per hit, strike shoto gamma hits three times so three ticks

[steep skiff]

I love those pressure sequences, honestly more hype than a true combo, good stuff

[raven dock]

another example of my close-wall gamma combo

[steep skiff]

What does doing Gamma here achieves?

Except being cool?

[raven dock]

depends, you can beta here but sometimes is better to keep in case you need later

[steep skiff]

Gotcha

I mean if it kills it kills

[raven dock]

i'm not sure if this works as examples but sometimes i prefer to do gamma instead of beta because of situations that beta can block my exits or places i wanna go
sure i can melee out of it but if i can gamma to do it faster then will work for me

or these situations i just do it automatically, i like to think that beta can make the enemy go down upwards and get them stuck on the top of the beta so gamma on close counters can avoid that

and the last situation if you ran out of Betas, then the close-wall gamma is your option as a combo finisher

[steep skiff]

That’s amazing awareness not gonna lie, I’ll try to implement it in my gameplay!

[turbid hedge]

What’s a good tuning for red shoto?

[halcyon barn]

.

[halcyon barn]

wat costume do u got

[turbid hedge]

I have all but the undefeatable and the festival one

[jolly roost]

@turbid hedge y reload

What do you guys think of my build. Its definitely not meta nor specific character focused.
Just the tuning slots are placed perfectly for what I was going for.(except for hp defense would want that at lvl 4 purple hero slot)

[raven dock]

Never expected to see a shoto with speedy self revive

[raven dock]

@main bay started using wall runner on shoto yesterday, the difference is HUGE

[main bay]

It's a different game, which outfit are you using ?

[dull glacier]

300 dmg betas hehehehe

Most of it is just filler whilst I collect data hence why dmg boosts are levelled

[raven dock]

this one

though i still prefer my aizawa/kendo one sometimes

[raven dock]

almost sure i did something like this on a non-plus ultra skin

[dull glacier]

Me like parallel world though

I had nothing to tune and I had pondered on whether I should give Shoto a try since he used to be a main of mine

[raven dock]

that skin is better btw, just to the fact of the level 4 slots and the level 11 shiggy, the non-plus ultra one can't reach that

[dull glacier]

Level 10 Shiggy

Waaaa

I refuse to run lvl 11 sisterly though so I’m only using it till I’m unrusted

[raven dock]

fair enough

[obsidian tundra]

Tech or strike?

[dull glacier]

Strike

I wouldn’t stoop so low to play tech

[raven dock]

aye my boy lesgo

[blissful palm]

Since the game came out I have been maining Strike Shoto, but when the quirk skill set came out I became main Tech Shoto, I just got bored now and have started to play more with Aizawa or even Shinso. Tech Todo becomes quite boring and it's more raw power, currently I do more damage with the default Strike

In an average game I currently do more damage with Strike Shoto

[granite ledge]

I think what makes me not want to play Tech Shoto is because he doesn't really have any movement, he's just supposed to be Raw People and getting people away from him

[obsidian tundra]

BASED
ONE OF US
ONE OF US

[raven dock]

yup, wall runner approved.

[turbid hedge]

What tuning is that?

[raven dock]

Iida’s special tuning that lets you run on walls without the need of speed cards

On level 10 runs almost the entire match

[turbid hedge]

Oh I meant the costume for those tunes

[raven dock]

This right here

[turbid hedge]

Seems like a good outfit

[raven dock]

For damage and mobility indeed

[bright gyro]

I want this one but I have his casual outfit which will be tall runner and kendo

[raven dock]

That one is good as well but I don’t like the fact the yellow special tuning is hero only, a yellow shiggy could make a difference there

[bright gyro]

Ikr

I don’t wanna be that person that uses kendo tuning

[raven dock]

You could try yellow kiri for armor moves or mt lady for more time in battle

Those could work aswell

I would recommend all might but I don’t know if you’re a fan of getting plus ultra faster in the match

[bright gyro]

Yeah but I need more character tickets

[main bay]

🧊 🔥

[turbid hedge]

I do like that one tho

[raven dock]

Ah man I wish I had that ping so my beta connect most of the time 😭

[main bay]

You mean beta > alpha ? Or gamma > alpha > beta ?

[raven dock]

Gamma alpha beta, I can only do that on the air in the last ground frame

Due to my ping

Or normally I go with melee, works too

[main bay]

My ping is kinda bad too but it works, can you show me how you do it ?

[raven dock]

This is the best example I got

At least the beta I was talking about

Always in the air while I’m close on the ground

I play on NA but still far from where I live

I noticed your alphas and betas connects easily so I see your ping still better than mine lmao

[main bay]

Hmmm your ping looks bad yes, but I’m sure you can, but there are some things you need to do to have the best chance for it to work

[raven dock]

Im working on it already

Got some clips to make an edit later

[gritty mesa]

Gamma, double alpha, leave

[main bay]

Can't wait to see !

[main bay]

Try this, this distance is the BEST, and most importantly don't stay still ! You have to move, otherwise it's impossible, try with this distance and I'm sure it'll work !

[raven dock]

I guess my problem is just to make the beta look stylish but I look forward to that

[obsidian tundra]

I did this instinctively but with a bit more movement

But this is the combo I normally do

[main bay]

Perfect timing for the beta, so you canceled the animation

[main bay]

Good combo but you can do one alpha after the gamma !

[obsidian tundra]

Probably will do that

[raven dock]

yay you remembered the three melee-after gamma rule!

now i need that 8-melee into beta combo

if you don't mind of course

[sage vessel]

question

Is there any use to his SA?

like to melt his own beta or smth?

[main bay]

Besides stopping enemies from reviving their teammates and activating Dabi and Denki traps, it’s useless

[obsidian tundra]

Lmao I will certainly try

[bright gyro]

Same but with two hits

Didn’t know I could do three

[raven dock]

Three if you hit three stacks of your gamma, four to five if you hit only two to one

[main bay]

Shoto melee combo limit is 10 hits

3 ticks of gamma = 6 (you can do 3 melee max before 10)

2 ticks of gamma = 4 (you can do 5 melee max before 10)

1 tick of gamma = 2 ( you can do 7 melee max before 10)

That's the rule with Todoroki

Alpha 0,2

Beta 4

Gamma 6

Air melee 5

Max combo 10

[raven dock]

guessed something like that before learning the numbers

[main bay]

Yeah It's good to know numbers with them we see what is possible and what is not with Shoto

[obsidian tundra]

Get out inferior counterpart

[raven dock]

funny how tech shoto was made to be better than strike one but people found a way to counter everything and made tech worst LMAO

and i'm avoiding the buffs/nerfs

[tulip drum]

gang, that is NOT it, we use wall runner BECAUSE we need it, not because of meta, Shoto needs the mobility

[granite ledge]

I use it for extra damage if the opponent decides to attack again

[jolly roost]

@tulip drum bro what are you talking about 😭 I never said anything about wall runner being meta nor implied it was meta? And my build is unique and not meta like I said.

[raven dock]

@obsidian tundra when we are gonna do a friendly strike shoto 1v1?

[tulip drum]

My bad, whenever people talk about meta and Shoto, I usually just see wall runner, but if you don't think wall runner isn't meta with Shoto, what then? Also, no offense bruv, but that build is not it. Lemme go look at it again

Ok... Gang that is NOT IT

[tulip drum]

Why we hating on tech shoto?

[jolly roost]

@tulip drum oh ok i was talking about the sistorly and embrittle tuning meta
dude this build is to be a survival build with
lvl 4 max down hp(420)
lvl4 crawl downed speed with
lvl 11speedy self revive goes HARD!! ;] whatchu talking about bruh
i would want a character like kendo with the same exact tunings because she is assualt and 400 hp but this is the only chara that has this setup exactly how i want it minus the hp defense would want that at lvl 4

[dull glacier]

Swap all might fornyellow kirishima for double alpha defence and I really would go with revenge strike over speedy self rev

Most the time you’ll get finished so it wont even have any use. Plus with revenge strike you’ll be dealing more dmg so you can push teams back with that rather then having your tuning only work once you’re down and the 99.9% chance you’ll be finished immediately after

Also swap compress and overhaul around. The crawl hp isn’t worth using at all it has minimal effect.

[obsidian tundra]

Either Friday or weekends
I will host a strike shoto customs where we all fight

[tulip drum]

Y'know what? All the power to you, if that's what works for you, I'm not hating

[main bay]

The first time I met Kamko, I won but I don't think I deserved that win, he missed his alpha and it cost him the fight

[steep skiff]

If he missed, he missed. You have good movement too

Opponent’s mistakes is how you win in any high level competition

[unique cedar]

yall tried running perception on Tech Todo for more accurate wall bombs?

Trying to figure out what I want to tune next

[raven dock]

It could be good considering your teammates can also see the opponent through walls

If you play well with your team then it’s a option

[obsidian tundra]

There was this one time I did a gamma into alpha into melee into beta

[tulip drum]

GANG, you're out here telling us how to be more accurate suic--e bo--rs

[raven dock]

don't forget you can melee three times, this helps keeping the opponent more time in the gas, hes gonna take extra damage from the gas and the burning

you could also change the angle from your left

also keeping the opponent more time in the gas

[obsidian tundra]

That was like before I knew about it

[raven dock]

fair.

[dull glacier]

Someone actually had that in my team earlier

Didn’t hit a single melee btw

[bright gyro]

Is strike todo not meta?

[raven dock]

Doesn’t matter how people look at him, he will become meta again

[dull glacier]

He’s not meta but in the right hands he’s dangerous

[obsidian tundra]

He seems like very situational character

[bright gyro]

Mmmmm interesting

[obsidian tundra]

If he is in the right situation then he is like

Such a monster

If he is in such a inconvenient situation then ig your dead

[bright gyro]

I have his casual outfit I’m using but I don’t want to use sisterly I don’t want to be that person so what else should I use?

The person that I run into a lot and is hard to fight is strike shigi

[obsidian tundra]

So based

[raven dock]

your beta could work very well against his alpha

the only problem when facing him is his gamma

armored moves works against strike shoto no problem

sadly

[bright gyro]

That is what gets me killed

[crimson mason]

I never knew strike shoto would be this fun to use

[obsidian tundra]

Welcome

[crimson mason]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314363575011119166/1327684435583307877/yuseongbyeolbi1_-_1877698021988995385.gif

is it bad that i think tech shoto is a bit brainrotting to me?

[obsidian tundra]

No it's good that you think that way

[crimson mason]

Im so SAD I COULDNT CLIP ANYTHING IT BROKE ON ME

strike shotooo is really strong i love him omg

except im not entirely sure what hi combo is

I just freeze- melee- melee- beta

idk if thats like a good ideal combo

[sage vessel]

It's really cool to pull that off fr!

I kinda struggle with the melee part so I just gamma then spam alpha while the enemy's frozen

[sage vessel]

Nah, I think that way too

[crimson mason]

Well i got into a corridor and it was the most satisfying thing

to down multiple people at once

cuz they were all huddle there

xd

[dull glacier]

A lot of ppl agree with you

His alpha was fine before they buffed it and gave him an extra beta charge

Kinda ruined the already minimal skill it takes to play him

[raven dock]

Freeze - alpha - melee combos are the most optimal, some doesn’t work on shield due to the timing and they can dodge, the window timing could be bad
50/50 combos also are possible on shield
Just know most of his combos works well with alpha and beta after melee, you can go crazy after close gamma hits

If you need some help with his combos I don’t mind sharing my combos

[bright gyro]

I seen a build on yt with shock and wall runner

It looked pretty fun

[raven dock]

Im gonna guess

From jerm , right? ( I said mrow but i switched the names lmao )

Saw that one aswell

Loved the idea

Gonna try that build later

[bright gyro]

Yes jerk

Jerm

[crimson mason]

kk!

[obsidian tundra]

Oh so if they have shields then they can dodge

I was wondering how some people are able to get out of my combos

[raven dock]

Yeah, people stunned from melee in shield recovers faster than stunned in HP, so most of combos are true only on HP because of this feature

The stun animation on some skills are the same like grabs

But for melee doesn’t apply

In case you doesn’t know the timing for the 50/50 beta delay, go for safe melee-alpha neutral

Best way to train these is to play training mode and test your combos on the CPU with the Restore GP option enabled
If the CPU’s Health and GP regenerates after a combo, this means three things

• you dropped the combo on purpose only to stun the enemy, so you can hit your alpha more ( reset option )
• the combo dropped for a second for still enough for a beta or a gamma finisher ( normally happens purposely in the air)
• the combo dropped because of the delay, prompt input timing or opponent’s connection, he can dodge or press buttons after this ( miss click option )

Don’t forget the 50/50 scenarios, you can drop your combos purposely to connect a beta after the opponent’s dodge, most of them rolls after the combo drops then go crazy

This will work A LOT of times

[crimson mason]

@raven dock I can see where the 50/50 for the melee to beta combo comes in https://streamable.com/2tj7x4

It nearly sold me

[raven dock]

I liked the attempt, but I’m glad you got the idea

Baiting the enemy into a dodge can get you the advantage

[crimson mason]

https://tenor.com/view/liko-pokemon-writing-write-that-down-pokemon-horizons-gif-7065086589384283251

[steep skiff]

Just making sure, to escape Melee 2 > Beta is roll diagonally away, which can be covered by running for a split second before Beta, but then they can escape by rolling diagonally in.

Is that what you call the 50/50?

[raven dock]

Yes!
The 50/50 is the perfect situation which both sides doesn’t know their next move, which at the same time only one side will succeed on their choice

One can easily press buttons and catch off guard and cancel your combo ( sometimes still get hit by your beta if you fast enough )
And the same one can dodge off of it you miss the beta angle

And your situation :
you can lock the enemy on the stun, jump after the melee with an alpha and beta time the enemy dodge ( this is optional, the jump here is kinda stylish though)
The delay is to make sure you can catch the dodge off guard, thing most players do after getting combo’d

Sometimes the beta delay can even save your here, hitting the enemy AFTER the deploy, like 2 seconds later, I think that depends on your ping, so wouldn’t hurt trying it

[steep skiff]

That sounds like a sick reset indeed, for now I'm mostly going ham on the buttons since most players have poor defense and get hit anyway, but I'll try and adapt if I notice good players, though I usually struggle to land a combo against them in the first place.

[raven dock]

Just practice your melee after gamma combos knowing the three-hit rule, if not freeze, then the 7-8 rule, always moving forward so your character recovers from the animation faster

[steep skiff]

The combo itself I can hit somewhat decently, but getting the position, actually hitting a player that moves well, and then reacting to my hit to start the combo, under a bit of pressure is a different story.
I could use a refresher on the 7-8 rule (I'll search it up in this convo, no need to explain it again), I'm mostly using the 3 hit rule and aim for a Beta freeze if possible

[lime wedge]

Anyone got tips and tuning skin recommendations for strike Todo?

[raven dock]

we got almost anything

what do thinking?

running up walls?

more damage?

healing faster?

we got tank builds too ( if you wish that )

[obsidian tundra]

PU intensify and revenge strike goes kinda hard

I would like to do 300+ damage off one beta

[raven dock]

you can do that with yellow shiggy and full-focused beta build and two strike cards

never tried endeavor Special tuning

[obsidian tundra]

Interesting

[raven dock]

beta 9 always guard breaking goes hard 🔥

[obsidian tundra]

Just by one button you do some much damage

I love it

[lime wedge]

Carry potential so raw damage

[raven dock]

Raw damage you say?

[lime wedge]

I wanna be a nuclear reactor

[raven dock]

Then this

[lime wedge]

No have

Sadge

[raven dock]

Which PUR skins do you have?

[lime wedge]

I'll check after this match

[obsidian tundra]

Getting this

[lime wedge]

I'll try

[raven dock]

That casual one is the better with raw damage, but you lose yellow shiggy, wall runner ou whatever versatility shoto has

The damage is great but still prefer alpha ver

[obsidian tundra]

Ic

[lime wedge]

Noted

But what if I wanted a mix of damage and say survivability?

[bright gyro]

How do I become a good shoto player I keep on getting cooked

wait

nvm

I seen the video

But i don’t think he’s that good in the meta

[raven dock]

I’d say these ones

Lots of strike to mix damage

And you can play wall runner/Aizawa on them

[lime wedge]

I have that one

I think

My only PUR skin is the 100 million copies onr

One*

How do i build it

The 100 million copies

Skin

[raven dock]

Hmm

That’s skin is not the best for strike shoto

But lemme see

Unless you have

That skin is pretty much cooked

The support special tuning doesn’t add anything special to his kit

And its villain btw

The default one is better

A mix for strike slots

And you can play Yellow Shiggy - Aizawa

[lime wedge]

Huh,is the copies one any good for tech shoto?

[raven dock]

I saw an vid saying it works well for him, but I don’t play tech so I can’t say MUCH for that
The best skins for him are the reload-focuses ones

Just that

[lime wedge]

Oki

[jolly roost]

@s62_slickkarot i finally gave in ok, that build was heavy relient on teammates for it to actually be work,this is what im running now thoughts?

[obsidian tundra]

Mixed thoughts of willpower

As great as it is

You are not getting out of fights with it cuz your mobility needs you to like stay still for

1 full second

Which is quite some time

Revenge strike is REALLY good

[obsidian tundra]

I would put tech denki and replace nejire

And a hot take
Replace mic with bakugo

And replace cementos with momo

[velvet crow]

[jolly roost]

@obsidian tundra kk i change willpower to crushing.pu charge

[obsidian tundra]

Good enough

[thick umbra]

[raven dock]

team combos works too fam

[obsidian tundra]

[thick umbra]

[tulip drum]

I like the idea, but maybe change will power to strike bakugo

[raven dock]

missed most of my alphas but got the sisterly player

[obsidian tundra]

ABSOLUTE BEAUTIFUL

[raven dock]

why this print felt so cold...

[obsidian tundra]

Lore accurate

[bright gyro]

What is that second tuning skill?

[obsidian tundra]

PU intensity

Endeavors tuning

[bright gyro]

OHHH

[obsidian tundra]

Which made me do like

500+ damage in 2 seconds
Amazing

[bright gyro]

I use all might tuning and wall runner

[bright gyro]

We should play sometime

[obsidian tundra]

Yea

[obsidian tundra]

Maxing out beta with strike shoto is so fun

[raven dock]

i can only achive that damage with yellow shiggy 💀

gamma doing 60 damage per tick 😭

[obsidian tundra]

Crazy
He isn't the burst time

[obsidian tundra]

The power of tuning

[bright gyro]

Wait you did?

[obsidian tundra]

Yes

It's so nice actually

[bright gyro]

So beta 9 and gamma 9?

[obsidian tundra]

Or alpha 9

Your choice

[dense perch]

Oh this seems like it could be sorta anti rapid-esque

Might try it

[obsidian tundra]

And a safe sisterly counter (i think)

[dense perch]

Maybe???

What do I go for here? I wanted to make a build for both versions but also wall runner tech shoot sounds sorta peak? So what do you guys think?

[obsidian tundra]

But maxing out beta is so good

[obsidian tundra]

Wait I'm in a match
Lemme finish so I can help you find the right build

[dense perch]

Alr sure

[obsidian tundra]

Who are you gonna play
Strike or tech?

[dense perch]

I wanted it to work with either bc I like both to some extent

[obsidian tundra]

Ic

[dense perch]

But mostly strike I think

[obsidian tundra]

Good choice

Anyways

@dense perch if I were you
I would choose this

[dense perch]

Holy strike slots 💀

[obsidian tundra]

Since a lot of characters buff betas then

You know

1 max beta = 250

I think

Just put shinso, denki and kiri on the bottom

Then you choose which strike should be special tuning

Then all you need is to land 2 betas on a rapid and they are dead

[dense perch]

This seems very strong, tho I need hero souls

[bright gyro]

Maxing out beta feels weird

[obsidian tundra]

Me too

[dense perch]

I need it for like 10 different guys 😭

[obsidian tundra]

Same with me but its great close range and REALLY good on catching wakeups

[bright gyro]

I know

[obsidian tundra]

Hopefully you get shafted next banner and get a lot

👍

[dense perch]

DONT SAY TS I NEEEEEEEEED OCHACO MF

[obsidian tundra]

Lmao I'm messing with ya

GL

[raven dock]

i still can't face that skin down, got the best damage but my survival rate goes to the bottom 💀

[obsidian tundra]

It's a gamble of circumstances

Get in the perfect situation and you will be a monster

Get in a bad one and your dead

And I think revenge rapid can give him an extra mobility push

[raven dock]

i'm pretty much good with my iida/shiggy one, get in with gamma melee and all of your combos are insta-kill ones

beta doing 230 on level 4 is all i need

[obsidian tundra]

Fair enough

LMAO

[dense perch]

Which one can run iida shiggy?

[raven dock]

this one

get in

gamma

melee

all your alphas doing 110+

don't get me started on the beta lmao

170+

the gammas+betas always doing guard break

[velvet crow]

I need this build 😩

[granite ledge]

Ngl I play Strike Todoroki more, and I can't understand how fun he is, he can just melt Health bars

All you gotta press is Gamma and spam Alpha, and wake up Beta

[bright gyro]

Lmao or do his combo

[obsidian tundra]

Ngl my build allows beta to hit 220

With wall runner

Literally what 1 beta damage slot do

Like

[bright gyro]

W

I need to start maxing beta

[bright gyro]

Maxing beta goes crazy @obsidian tundra

[obsidian tundra]

Like i said

[raven dock]

guess i gotta try the max beta

[obsidian tundra]

Tell me how it goes

[raven dock]

285 on level 9 without plus ultra

💀

[obsidian tundra]

Woah

Crazy

His beta has been slept on for such a while

[dense perch]

I mean I always knew it was good just never considered maxing it first

[raven dock]

always maxing alpha first so me neither

[wheat rivet]

red shoto go brrr

[obsidian tundra]

E

[dull glacier]

Mine does over 300

[obsidian tundra]

Mine max does 340

With pu

[dull glacier]

I think mine is 363

[obsidian tundra]

Impressive

[dull glacier]

Some disgusting dmg

I need two strike teammates/cards

[obsidian tundra]

You gotta use this for MAX damage

[dull glacier]

That’ll do less then embrittlement Shoto

I think

Unless you

Revenge strike

[obsidian tundra]

Never knew embrittlement was involved

[dull glacier]

Triple beta in all lvl 4 slots

And double hp

Then it might do similar

[dull glacier]

I run parallel world

[obsidian tundra]

The perfect one

[obsidian tundra]

Ic

For me I just use PU intensify to one kill people

[dull glacier]

It’s very fun

[quasi spoke]

hot take but strike shoto is better than tech shoto

[obsidian tundra]

Finally

Someone see my way

[quasi spoke]

I tried giving tech shoto a chance but his ways of dealing damage outside of a building and escapability is damnnear next to none rn.

I lived way longer in a fight against rapid toga, strike denki and strike deku with strike shoto than what tech shoto would've. I'd just be 100% dead.

[obsidian tundra]

And having great horizontal mobility and his moves hits harder

And more hp

[quasi spoke]

some of his moves, tech shoto's alpha is still stronger but just barely and only 2 until knockdown. strike shoto can go forever. unlimited stamina baby.

tech shoto's gamma is a kill confirm but everyone has kill confirms at this point

[quasi spoke]

strike shoto's beta does 324 damage with embrittlement, tech shoto's beta does 229 damage with embrittlement. tech's is still good but there's a fundamental difference.

[obsidian tundra]

Interesting

[quasi spoke]

not to mention strike shoto is very better at combos by himself and with team

melee melee beta freeze into alpha, that'll one shot fs if you land the whole thing. or better yet, your team could finish that setup.

[obsidian tundra]

Ikr

[quasi spoke]

you have your basic go to gamma into melee melee into beta or whatever hits them

[obsidian tundra]

That's what I do

[raven dock]

speed card combos are just 🔥

[vocal mural]

D rank is nefarious

[bright gyro]

My same build but just without sisterly

[obsidian tundra]

W clip but the use of sisterly disgrace us

[vocal mural]

Forgive me 🙏😭, tbh I never even melee with him it’s just using up space might change it soon, but it is helpful for getting fulls if others are targeting me

[obsidian tundra]

Actually it's so easy getting melee in

Just use it once you use gamma on someone

[vocal mural]

I know, I keep telling myself to get the hit, but then it just never crosses my mind when I’m in a fight

[obsidian tundra]

Ic

Muscle memory

[bright gyro]

I always go for melee hits

[vocal mural]

I’m still new to him, officially added him to my main crew and I’m cooking

I learn the muscle memory eventually

If i keep it

[obsidian tundra]

Nice work

All you need to do is remove sisterly and your one of us

[raven dock]

I trust ya, if ya ready to cook then welcome to the party

[vocal mural]

EZ

[obsidian tundra]

Even kendo doesn't stand a CHANCE against me on the close quater department

180 for her gamma
And she takes 190 from my gamma

Beautiful trade

MY GAMMA DID 247 DAMAGE BY ITSELF

[quasi spoke]

just keep sisterly on tech shoto

[obsidian tundra]

Ew

[quasi spoke]

might as well, he's a waste of slot without it

[strong osprey]

sisterly that good on tech shoto? i woulnt assume he had an easy time proccing it outside of bodies

[obsidian tundra]

Sisterly on TECH shoto is wild

So wild

[vocal mural]

Can’t run from Rapid Shotoroki

[obsidian tundra]

Niceee

[vocal mural]

I’m starting to get the hang of this

[main bay]

Clips of my goat

[thick umbra]

Disgusting

If u have a hero assault slot if anything go with revenge assault not sisterly-

[quasi spoke]

it's the only way that waste of a character can be saved

[strong osprey]

surely you jest my liege

[quasi spoke]

necessary evil

[quasi spoke]

freeze mechanic into melee is one, that's why embrittlement on strike shoto is very good imo

[wheat rivet]

embrittle on strike shoto is BiS

[quasi spoke]

324 DMG from one beta if it's tuned right

[wheat rivet]

you can do more, I've hit 330

[raven dock]

hear me out

yellow shiggy and endeavor

[wheat rivet]

theoretically with endeavor added in you'd hit ~350

iirc

but the 330 does include yellow shiggy

[vocal mural]

Wait this sounds crazy could I see a video?

330 - 350 with just a beta

[wheat rivet]

uh I don't take videos but it's the standard tuning that people use for embrittle beta max stuff

PU + Embrittle plus beta = 330-340 range

I'll see if I can get a screenshot or smth

it busted tho

[wheat rivet]

could be higher with double HP Attack Power+ instead of the GP attack power

I'm p. sure with crushing + two strike teammates and two strike cards you break 400 damage

lol

[bright gyro]

Same build as me :]

[obsidian tundra]

New strike shoto tech discovered

[vocal mural]

Just changed it earlier, so now I use revenge assault but All Might’s skill is also great

[thick umbra]

Todomomo working together>

[quasi spoke]

double/triple strike?

[wheat rivet]

tbh I think with proper triple strike + Crushing PU and double red card active you can break 400. I'm certain double/triple strike was part of the equation.

I think I consistently hit 320 without strike teammates tho

thereabouts with embrittle and max beta

[dense perch]

^sero's worst nightmare

[obsidian tundra]

W

[clear holly]

shoto's tuning

[thick umbra]

Idk what to put for that outfit villain support
I have GP sucker on mine at level 10 tho

[clear holly]

that's helpful

[thick umbra]

For the sake of support points on ranked I'd change that kurogiri normal tunning to ibharas running and put kurogiris special tunning instead
Helps you to keep ur team alive at the very least

[clear holly]

true

[hushed tangle]

Can I get strike shoto tips and combos and lvl up order

[vocal mural]

I usually go 4 everything to start the match, I start with Gamma most of the time, then Beta, than Alpha, after I go Gamma 9, Beta 9, Alpha 9

[bright gyro]

I do gamma 4 beta 9

[vocal mural]

Still good, but Alpha is useful too

Too many frogs in this game

[blissful palm]

The most common is G4>A4>G9>A9>B9

[raven dock]

people most go with gamma first but i do alpha first, if anyone interested
A9-G9-A9-G9-B4-B9
normally beta goes 4 first than gamma if i find more cards

[hushed tangle]

I normally do a9

[hushed tangle]

Any tips for him

[raven dock]

try hitting more of your predict gammas into one alpha and melee, after the gamma is always three melee hits, do one if he got hitted before by any of your teammamtes, the combo has the risk of dropping

don't forget the reset combos

resetting into melee and alpha/beta are the beta options

and please don't mind the sisterly usage, this are old clips and i don't play sisterly on strike shoto anymore

the combo rules are simple
Melee hits counts as 1 ( the first one )
aerial melee counts as 5
beta counts as 4
gamma counts as 6, each tick has 2
alpha counts as 0,2 if you're interested
the max combo is counted to 10, if you stop at 9 it's still possible to damage opponents before the combo drops

creds to @main bay for the amazing info

[obsidian tundra]

Noooo not the sisterly tuning

[obsidian tundra]

Ic

Fair enough

[obsidian tundra]

Interesting

[raven dock]

i played sisterly in the first month after discovering the best tuning to strike shoto, guess i got that one broken and hasn't having fun anymore so i changed builds

still strong for him, can't deny that sadly

[obsidian tundra]

Good 👍

Our kind shall never fall victim so such a braindead ability

[raven dock]

Hopefully it’s gonna get nerfed, other abilities should get buffed too

[obsidian tundra]

Yes

[hushed tangle]

Thank you

[obsidian tundra]

I somehow gamma onto beta and entire team an this is the result

[raven dock]

So one broken shield and two healths almost smoked lmao

This damage

I can’t 😭

[tulip drum]

😂😂😂

[obsidian tundra]

This is the beauty of strike shoto (I'm the shoto)

This is what he should be

Seeing all those numbers and guardbreaks

Now imagine

If i 3 more put 3 strike beta slots with 2 hp attack buffs

[raven dock]

rapid can easily fear this character lmao, thats 250 HP in one second

[obsidian tundra]

Well it's harder to hit the rapid but if he catches you

Expect death

@raven dock normal beta deals 242

Without anything

Revenge beta deals 262

[raven dock]

so that's a 20% increase...

interesting

forgot how % means in this game

[obsidian tundra]

I used PU intensify

Gamma deals 186 + 356 from beta

An instant kill

[raven dock]

only 400 Hp can survive that combo lmao

[obsidian tundra]

Very balanced

👍 👍 👍 👍

[obsidian tundra]

Fair damage

[raven dock]

now add yellow shigaraki debuff and that goes to 376

[obsidian tundra]

I wish

I can

[raven dock]

just invite someone to apply the shigaraki debuff, no worries

[vocal mural]

So close to my 6k with strike shoto needed 400 more dmg

[bright gyro]

You needa cook like me

[vocal mural]

I’m trying man but with all the kill protectors and teamer’s make solos dam near 10x harder for no reason. And it feels like it’s almost every match. I avg around 3k to 5k damage with him most of my matches

[bright gyro]

You actually play solos?

[vocal mural]

I play all game modes, solos mainly to have fun or warm up. If I feel like playing with teammates I’ll play unranked, and I don’t play ranked unless I have a team

[bright gyro]

Nah I just play ranked with randoms

It’s not bad

[vocal mural]

It’s horrendous for me at least, they just die, leave, sell your points

[obsidian tundra]

I'm just using beta in a smart way

[jolly roost]

When you play 30 fps his beta attack has a hit scan delay which os very good counter for hawks. I wonder how it is on Switch

[tulip drum]

Also on PS4. It lasts a GOOD while

I think up to 3-5 secs

[hushed tangle]

How is the beta so big

[obsidian tundra]

Cuz its maxed out?

[hushed tangle]

Ik

But like mines never that big

[hushed tangle]

Any rapid bakugo tips

[obsidian tundra]

Go to katsuki bakugo discussion and scroll up until you see me dumping my rapidgo tips

Wait

[hushed tangle]

Alr

[vocal mural]

Yep really clutch

[vocal mural]

Because he was in a tight space, that’s why it scrunched up like that

[raven dock]

@main bay @obsidian tundra finally my strike shoto compilation

on #community-content if you may

[obsidian tundra]

W

[tulip drum]

Toga pokemon. Nice

[vocal mural]

Axolotl, but close ig, there’s gotta be some type of axolotl pokémon

[tulip drum]

Axotoga

Yeah, I think so

The pre evolution of that whomper pokemon I think

[obsidian tundra]

W

[main bay]

Masterclass ! Your aim is really good, "GET OUT" 🤣

[ionic lintel]

What tuning set should I use with tech shoto?

[raven dock]

The one with most reloads you find, he doesn’t need many strike slots as strike shoto so you can do that as good

[ionic lintel]

Reloads?

Wdym by that

Like the quirk skill ones?

I was mostly curious about the special tuning abilities 😭

[raven dock]

Yeah, the tuning slot colors, I mean the purple one, this could increase your reload speed

[ionic lintel]

Which ones specifically?

[raven dock]

You choose, but I’m talking about beta and gamma reload

[vocal mural]

Poor Floppy

[obsidian tundra]

Ayyyyy your using the melee combo

Massive W

[vocal mural]

It’s soo good

If I had a beta would’ve used it on the 3rd hit, but it just allowed me to keep hitting her so I did 🤷‍♂️😂

[tulip drum]

Gang, you were saucing, all might pulled up though.

[vocal mural]

He obliterated me sadly not even 5 seconds after it ended 😔

[halcyon barn]

the red one
gp + hp sucker

using mt lady on shoto is bot the best thing for me and if u try to use kendo i don't think u can use mele that much when things comes up so u try to avoid that like by using healing tune

and there is an outfit of festival that u can tune with gp sucker + red shiggy

[raven dock]

You followed the 8-hit rule, nice
The freeze did 2 hits on the scaling, so the combo allowed the other 8 hits and was enough to down her
Nice one again

[vocal mural]

So that’s how I got the extra hits

Thanks 😊

[bright gyro]

I already have the perfect build sir

[shell osprey]

Level path for tech shoto?

[vocal mural]

A4 B9 A9 G9

[shell osprey]

Ty

[blissful palm]

B7 > A4 > B9 > A9 > G9

This is what I recommend you to not be completely unarmed at the beginning of the game, you raise the beta to a decent level and with the alpha you are already well armed

[shell osprey]

Yeah so suddenly I no longer want his beta nerfed

Now that I'm the one sending them.

[main bay]

Strike Shoto is a menace 💀

[obsidian tundra]

Beautiful

[obsidian tundra]

You guys should use beta to block grounded characters from storm more

It's really underrated

[turbid hedge]

Whats red todos best tuning skins?

Looking at the hero costume alpha fancy and the stock casual outfit

[mortal hatch]

So like…

What is this SA for…

giggles?…

[shell osprey]

Pretty much?

It can be useful for confirming kills if placed righr

Also for running away

Enemies can run into it

Take some chip

[mortal hatch]

The chip damage is a joke

[tulip drum]

Basically

[mortal hatch]

Why don’t they buff it?

[tulip drum]

What kind of buff does it need?

How do you even buff it?

[strong osprey]

why does todoroki need a buff?

[mortal hatch]

Idk

Maybe mode damage? (either residual or or contact)

Give it a small stun?

Make it bigger?

Something

To be honest, if it were up to me i’d remove what it is entirely right now and give him that cool SEASON 7 SPOILERS ||swirly icyhot heart || move he has and make it like kiri and denki’s sa but it’s a buff! To what? I don’t know it could really be anything you want honestly (within reason atleast)

[mortal hatch]

I’d rather him get a buff and have an entirely negligible part of his kit

There shouldn’t be a power that you just don’t use because it’s that useless

All It can do is sometimes greed a kill well

[strong osprey]

its not useless though

id even go and say its not even the worst SA in the game

[mortal hatch]

You can get its effect from 1 alpha

It’s super weak

[strong osprey]

weak for sure

but not useless

and not the worst in the game

[mortal hatch]

What would the weakest one be?

[strong osprey]

kendo usually comes to mind

[mortal hatch]

The easiest buff to that is just increased the range and speed of the throw

But even that shines in some really good moments with low mobility characters

Like throwing an ibara to height

[raven dock]

Well, we take that damage incase, 11-13 damage with 16 seconds of hp burning is all needed, shoto can be a damage monster without it, we don’t mind the extra damage

It’s actually funny killing someone with this

But I got what you saying

[mortal hatch]

Thing is…

You can apply THE SAME EFFECT by just… using an alpha…

[mortal hatch]

I thought it only dropped you to one HP

Because I’ve never died to it once

I’m either really lucky or it does

[raven dock]

Yeah, but alpha doesn’t have the same duration special action has
Its 6-9 seconds versus 16 seconds, actually has a difference

[raven dock]

It does

But you can down people with less than 10 health

Works fine against kiri strike tunning

If you get what I’m saying

[mortal hatch]

Wow…

That’s like… 7 more damage…

[raven dock]

Can make a difference when 4hp+ buffs from tunning can save you

[mortal hatch]

He can still just live on one either way

[raven dock]

I mean, if people waste alphas more than their gammas, special action is a option, I don’t like to play beta so much outside combos because my ping and its easy to counter

[mortal hatch]

Listen I get that I’m being sht about this but you have to understand that this is mildly convenient at best

And at worse people like me existing because this is what icyhot gets instead of something actually useful

Most of the time it’s very underwhelming

[mortal hatch]

His gamma is very finicky for me so I normally alpha and gamma only if I’m sure I can predict where their gonna go

I press Gamma for a singular extra pico second and now I’m moving along

[raven dock]

Yeah I get what you saying, I really don’t mind or judge people saying about his special action, it’s really his worst part of his kit, I’m just saying it can be useful, even in a million chance, if I can down people with that, people can also get me down so is a win win

[raven dock]

Gamma being his best skill just make me never wanting to drop this character

It’s just too good

[mortal hatch]

it’s still as useful as trying to hit your opponent with a napkin but I digress

[mortal hatch]

So

You like an ability that stuns on hit, can be used for mobility and is one of his best in slot moves…

||/hj||

[raven dock]

~~fr im not argue with that 💀 ~~

[raven dock]

im a still alpha player so no for me

[mortal hatch]

Alpha as in the time you started playing the game? Or As in you like using your alpha a lot?

[raven dock]

both

started playing dabi on season 1

where didn't know his gamma were his best skill

[mortal hatch]

Well for the ladder

Denki loves his alpha follow ups

And his tripwires is just a better shoto sa

Because they actually do damage and can stun

[raven dock]

i'm still thinking in holding that option, i can't hit his alphas the same way as shoto

maybe i'm that bad 😭

[mortal hatch]

No, it’s probably just muscle memory

You could always try again though…

Take the denki pill…

Our SA gives you a free Tod

[raven dock]

denki doesn't have the range i like in some characters

don't get me wrong

i like close encouters characters

but denki for some reason doens't feel right to me...

[mortal hatch]

Awwwwww you killed a man bleeding out with a napkin in a 2 v 1

(Just so you know, I’m dissing the napkin, not your clip)

[raven dock]

alright you got me 😭

lemme see if i got something better

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202088463340683344/1365644410687062117/MedalTVMYHEROULTRARUMBLE20250423104504.mp4?ex=6810b1f7&is=680f6077&hm=a4d188a352ec465423426314781af31443020371c29aaacf8a1ed35fab81847d&

this 1v1 of mine

[mortal hatch]

Dang… wasn’t expecting an actual valid and understandable answer…

Fair enough

But counterpoint!

[raven dock]

dang...

my napkin can't win that one~

sike

sa can kill too

[mortal hatch]

Firstly WHAT IS THIS POV LOL

Secondly awwwwww, you killed a bleeding (wo)man with a napkin ❤️

[raven dock]

coudn't get my pov sorry 😭

[mortal hatch]

I fail to see why single alpha can’t do the same

[raven dock]

i was focused on the twice

didn't realized overhaul was alive yet

bro got yeeted on my beta

[mortal hatch]

ATP

Just play shiggy

It’s like your SA, but not made of tissue paper, hopes and dreams

[raven dock]

yea you right, alpha plays works more but downs with 12 damage feels funny 😂

[mortal hatch]

But in honesty imagine this

He activates his sa that gives himself [SEASON 7 SPOILER BUFF] ||phosphor|| make all of his abilities much better

Oops

That gif isn’t working

[raven dock]

i got what you saying

watched that part too

fr

i wish

[mortal hatch]

Knowing BYKING it’s just gonna be another quirk skill set T-T

Same with Dabi’s

If not a skill set than a skin for sure

[raven dock]

when they gonna starting working on different special actions on quirk sets?

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[mortal hatch]

I think they’re keeping it the same for some reason

So they all have something in common and they’re not just an entirely different character

Even though I think that’s kind of stupid

[raven dock]

till they do that, i'm gonna keep downing people with my napking

[mortal hatch]

One day, you will learn that a special action should probably be special

I would legitimately take one extra tuning slot over this

His brother gets to revive and his father gets to fly

[raven dock]

i mean, dabi can get cancelled from his revive and endeavor has the "worst" fly ability in the game~

[mortal hatch]

Both are still more useful than a napkin

1. A second chance is a second chance so it has to be somewhat weak and cancelable

2. Flight is still amazing for mobility and fighting

Some characters get completely countered by it

Aka your gamma and napkin is useless

[raven dock]

i will take my chances..

and if i see flying i will alpha him until bro goes on the ground, then down him with my SA

unless i down him first on the air...

[mortal hatch]

Counterpoint

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-prominence-burn-endeavor-fire-plus-ultra-gif-16802472

[vocal mural]

SA is mainly used for sneaking damage after a big attack, throw it at them and they’ll burn. Wish they did at a faster rate

[steep skiff]

It’s okay to throw it out when your opponent is knocked down, or when you want to slow down the timer of a downed opponent to focus on fighting someone else.
it’s one more hitbox you can put on the screen and it stays for a decent time. You can get by without using it very easily, but it’s one more thing to learn and maybe optimize

It’s still pretty crappy.
Maybe if the burn effect generated by the SA had the same effect as Hawks’ Gamma.
They would still have to be hit by a crappy move but at least it would do something, right now the DPS is so slow it’s probably more useful as a visual blur than as a damage dealing ability…

I think their « idea » was to freeze someone, throw out a SA and hit them while they burn but that’s a huge DPS loss lol

[vocal mural]

Yeah it’s really confusing, wish rhey would buff or rework it, which probably won’t happen

[raven dock]

sadly doesn't stop the down timer, it's only low dps damage and doesn't stun the opponent, so can only works like a damage option in case you don't have alphas or betas

[steep skiff]

I really tried to find something

Rip

[raven dock]

it kinda does, doesn't mark opponents but can show you the damage number so you can actually see someone step in there

can't help much in his kit but can actually work few times

[bright gyro]

I killed somebody yesterday with his special action lol

[vocal mural]

That’s equally as bad as losing to a MT.Lady triple stomp

[bright gyro]

Toga woga

[vocal mural]

Quick tip, if you have wall runs on tech shoto, throw is Ice wall fully up, and run up it, great mobility

Then super jump and fall on your opponent

[dense perch]

Trapped his chasing ahh

[obsidian tundra]

Now that you pinged me

Imma drop this here

[vocal mural]

I really wish I had his still can’t catch up 😔

[obsidian tundra]

His still?

[vocal mural]

Emote

“Still can’t catch up”

It’s so fire

[obsidian tundra]

I see lmao

[mortal hatch]

What did she do to deserve this amount of BM?

[obsidian tundra]

By being a pain in the ahh

[grand wadi]

Used red shoto for the first time since s3-4 and maaaannnn it’s been a min lol

Even with the health buff and extra beta since just feels like he’s kinda left behind

The gamma cooldown feels super fun tho

https://tenor.com/view/ice-skating-spin-move-spinning-slide-sliding-gif-15607120

Me all game

[obsidian tundra]

He is in a healthy position

[vocal mural]

It’s almost non existent 😭😭

[grand wadi]

lol yea its wild

[main bay]

RAPID Shoto is the final boss 💀💀

[raven dock]

BRAZILIAN PHONK MENTIONED 🔥 🔥

[main bay]

Brazilian phonk is INSANELY good 🔥

[vocal mural]

Nothing will ever make me take away his wall runs 😂

[vocal mural]

Is that a player?

[raven dock]

nah lmao, i'm talking about the music

[vocal mural]

Gotchu

[bright gyro]

Bro is a demon I needa start moving like this

[leaden furnace]

thank you

but isn't wall runner on tech shoto rlly OP especially in the new map and the UA map?? what else can i pair there? like card duplication? HP sucker?

[steep skiff]

It really is yeah

My message is old af

I feel like it's more important on red shoto compared to purple shoto

But it's amazing on almost any character anyway

[steep skiff]

I'm using wall runner + red shiggy right now

But I'm barely if ever using purple shoto nowadays

You can't go wrong with wallrunner anyway

[leaden furnace]

Ok.

[leaden furnace]

Is wall runner still worth it if i have to pair it with a support SP

[steep skiff]

I'd say so, send screenshot of costume you wanna use

[leaden furnace]

it has strike cards so i can make alpha do a bit more

[bright gyro]

The build I’m using

I just put all my strike tuning into beta

[leaden furnace]

why

[bright gyro]

Cause beta is fun and also I meant the build I’m using I put all of the strike tuning into his beta I’m using is casual outfit

[bright gyro]

I get gamma to 4 and then beta max

[leaden furnace]

ok

[leaden furnace]

oh

i do a4 b4 g4 a9 b9 g9

[wheat rivet]

Wall Runner + Embrittle or bust

b9 like a chad

hit 340 damage embrittle --> betas

[thick umbra]

I haven't played Tech todoroki in awhile
I need todoroki outfits only pur I own is his free one from the agency event last season

[tulip drum]

Can you run wall runner on it?

[thick umbra]

Yeah I'm probably gonna put wall runner after that GP sucker nerf thing is idk what to put for the villain support tunning

[raven dock]

You can use kurogiri on that one, selfheals can at least help your team out

[thick umbra]

Gotcha,thx

[obsidian tundra]

Pulled of the SA kill

[brave wyvern]

Is funny that many people say that tech Shoto was the worst quirk set

when that thing can easily erase you

[obsidian tundra]

"Thing" is crazy LMAO