Xbox / Activision Acquisition Discussion

[nocturne vine]

Well Microsoft winning today and they buying Activision would cause the biggest fuss and chaos

[gritty tangle]

Then I want that to happen

[winged cosmos]

I don’t know, blocking the deal fully would also cause a massive amount of fuss and chaos

[nocturne vine]

I think there are fewer people on that side.

[trim bramble]

Most chaos.. putting it off more time /hj

[gritty tangle]

Either outcome will cause people to cry but this needs to go on for as long as possible

[trim bramble]

No

[nocturne vine]

It needs to stop. It has been going on for longer than any other acquisition ever

[trim bramble]

Even once/if it closes it has a long way to go

[winged cosmos]

All the Xbox fanboys would throw a tantrum and chaos though, as well as the ponies on the other side

[gritty tangle]

I have no horse in this race so the longer it goes on the better

[trim bramble]

It's not like just slotting things in and it's all done now lol

[nocturne vine]

True. I think the deal going through tho has the most positive sides

[lofty marlin]

If you do not have a horse in this race, I recommend playing Horse Racing 2016.
Best game ever according to 9 out of 10 mods

[trim bramble]

I do not envy the managers and such who will be integrating the new things in.

[nocturne vine]

Sony finally getting a real challenge again. So that competition starts agian

[gritty tangle]

ye I bet merging two companies like this is a colossal undertaking

[nocturne vine]

Xbox 360/PS3 era was great cause there was some serious competition

[gritty tangle]

Is there a verdict today?

Or what's the situation

[nocturne vine]

Could be.

Damn... This lawyer is amazing

[gritty tangle]

which one

For xbox?

idek why I have the stream on, I can't listen to the audio lol

[nocturne vine]

Btw there was also this : https://twitter.com/DestinLegarie/status/1680952770088808448

Destin (@DestinLegarie)

Judge: Whatever the restructuring, Microsoft will be acquiring Activision.

Twitter · Jul 17, 2023, 2:49 PM

[gritty tangle]

who is this

[nocturne vine]

Someone who is tweeting about the case rn

[rain escarp]

yeah loads of people are tweeting about the case

[gritty tangle]

Is that a direct quote from the judge

[nocturne vine]

Yes

But also Judge is pointing out of all the stupid stuff CMA has done.
So I love that he drills about it

[hallow valley]

It’ll be closed tomorrow, I’m calling it

[nocturne vine]

Not so sure anymore

[narrow talon]

Judge brought up the Sony deal

[nocturne vine]

Beard really wants to talk rn

[rain escarp]

loads of back n forth on this

[rough cypress]

where can I watch the CAT thing

[lament wigeon]

https://catribunal.uk/1590Microsoft

[rain escarp]

https://twitter.com/DestinLegarie/status/1680963208394452994?s=20

Destin (@DestinLegarie)

The judge was handed a note or something.
Judge: If you want me to consider all the options now's the time to tell me.

Twitter · Jul 17, 2023, 3:30 PM

[rough cypress]

can they just get to the point

[narrow talon]

That is honestly how I have reacted through all of this.

[rough cypress]

they are saying a whole lot of nothing

[rain escarp]

thats cause you missed loads cause it started awhile ago

[rough cypress]

yeah I know I missed like 2 hours I was playing sea of thievws

[hallow valley]

I wish I could watch but I’m in summer school rn

[winged cosmos]

That’s usually how courts go

[rough cypress]

you don't wish its boring they've been talking about a chicken and an egg for 10 minutes

[hallow valley]

I like chicken and eggs tho

[nocturne vine]

Altho Judge is hindering this whole thing right now... I am glad he is doing a great job

[rough cypress]

why don't they just like have Microsoft and the CMA talk for like 30 mins each then they come to a conclusion instead of waffling about chicken and eggs

[winged cosmos]

Because that’s not how the courts work

[rough cypress]

well it would be much easier if it worked that way

[winged cosmos]

They’re not talking about literal chickens or eggs. They’re talking about the statements given by Microsoft and the CMA and the pathways ahead

10 minute break

[rain escarp]

waiting for those eggs to hatch. 10mins lol

[nocturne vine]

Chicken and the egg in this case is if the decision to do this is actually because of the FTC event of because of CMA talking to Microsoft

[rough cypress]

well yeah ik but why don't they just move on and actually talk about the different ways they can try and resolve it instead of saying oh yes it's up to the CMA and stuff over and over for 25 mins

[nocturne vine]

All the judge wants to hear is that CMA is now scared to lose because they have no point. Never had one and never will.

[oblique halo]

Winner chicken dinner?

[rain escarp]

well Judge is wanting to know details. and then might be able to quash.. because as Florian just said if the 28th July went ahead we wouldnt know any details till end of August and would still go back to CMA

[rough cypress]

does quash mean it's like over or

[nocturne vine]

Yep. Judge is pressing for infos from CMA. Not about the deal that has been made but about CMA admitting they did an uppsie

[rain escarp]

CMA and MS/ABK have a deal in place it looks like which is why they trying to get the Judge to agree

[rough cypress]

well if they do have a deal cant they just say yeah we have a deal and that's it over

[rain escarp]

thats what this whole court thing is about today

[nocturne vine]

The judge is not taking it tho

[rain escarp]

Judge keeps bringing up the Sony agreement cause thats over with now. I dont know why MS/ABK are trying to work with CMA. could also be for any future acquisitions

[rough cypress]

its probably to do with future acquisitions even though they probably won't try and buy anything else for another 5 years atleast

[nocturne vine]

Hope beard takes this time to call Microsoft lol

They want a peaceful resolution with CMA. Cause they want to buy more studios down the line

We back

[rain escarp]

cheers, been reading Twitter

[winged cosmos]

Spent all afternoon listening to the hearing in the office, now turned it off since I’m heading home

[rain escarp]

yeah Destin and Foss doing a good job if you catch up later

[potent badger]

so the cma knows that their decision is bs but they want to save face and microsoft just wants to close and doesnt care about justice anymore, am i right?

[nocturne vine]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[marble root]

MS does care about justice

they want to do this in the cleanest way possible

[nocturne vine]

At this point I think they might be better off by just going around somehow rn

[potent badger]

yeah but microsoft knows that the first ruling is wrong but they dont want to adress to save time to close asap

[nocturne vine]

They have to adress that. But rn it's more important to go quick. The longer they take time the more time others have to completely destroy this.

[kind crown]

buffering a bit for me

[woeful siren]

others have to completely destroy this.

Who are the 'others'? Like you think the big countries that have already made statements/rulings are going to go 'wait, lulz, jk, mind changed'?

[nocturne vine]

NZ, Australia

Well in case of NZ and Australia I am not sure if they even have the power to do it. If not then I take that back.

[potent badger]

australia is so small

usa and europe are the biggest markets for ms

[rain escarp]

there is a reason nobody has spoke about it.. Australia tweeted as I said. they were just waiting

[potent badger]

the uk is also a big market thats why they didnt close yet

[winged cosmos]

I decided to put it back on while waiting for a taxi and can’t help but giggle at the name Mr Beard

[rain escarp]

https://twitter.com/diane_alter/status/1680720138360717313?s=20

Diane Alter (@diane_alter)

Australian Competition & Consumer Commission re $MSFT $ATVI “We are closely monitoring developments in other jurisdictions, including receiving regular updates on the substantive issues from the parties & relevant stakeholders. The ACCC review timeline remains suspended.”

Twitter · Jul 16, 2023, 11:24 PM

[nocturne vine]

I mean... Australia does it right tho. Since things change rapidly

[rain escarp]

thats the latest thing they said

[potent badger]

australia wants to feel important

[nocturne vine]

Australia is important

[mystic hinge]

But is Mr beard shaven?

[nocturne vine]

Yes he is lol

[mystic hinge]

I call false advertising.

[mystic hinge]

This man is. A false advertisement. The whole case needs to be thrown out /s

[potent badger]

the cma could just say that they made a mistake and close it rn

[nocturne vine]

That would make them look weak. Neither CMA nor Microsoft want that

[potent badger]

the cma was the whole time intertwined with the ftc and now that the ftc lost they try to not look as bad in public

[winged cosmos]

Good to know bots actually work properly in threads now 😆

[woeful siren]

This is a clear cut case of market manipulation.

You hear him on the radio nd think "this man probably has a well manicured full beard, I trust what he has to say" and then you meet him and you're like "I was bamboozled! did anything he say ring true??"

[marble root]

😭

[winged cosmos]

Means I don’t always need to have an eye in here

[marble root]

i keep forgetting

[nocturne vine]

CMA Lawyer is actually doing great rn

[marble root]

yeah he's cooking you hate to see it lol

[potent badger]

he is really fair

but he is wasting time

[marble root]

i still hate his group tho. CMA has ruined when this deal is going to close

[nocturne vine]

Everyone has their reason

[potent badger]

they will close it this week for sure

dont know if they still have to pay 3 billions in the case this doesnt happen tomorrow

[winged cosmos]

You can’t say this week for sure, when the hearing currently going on is saying it could take all the way until the end of august

[rain escarp]

yeah thats if the appeal goes through and they cant get this block in place

Judge just wants it over with by sounds of it

[winged cosmos]

Judge is hungry and wants to see if his chicken or egg have hatched

[rain escarp]

been going on for ages, and doesnt seem to have moved much

[winged cosmos]

Still focusing on CMA opening a new investigation like the news said last week

[foggy matrix]

What's MS's want out of this?

Are they aiming for the trial next week? or for it to be quashed to have new discussion?

I have no clue who here is for who

[rain escarp]

trying to get quashed so they can go for this divestiture of UK Cloud

[foggy matrix]

so CMA and MS are both aiming for a quashing

[rain escarp]

CMA and MS/ABK been working on a new deal.. I think with EE

yeah,. they dont want the 28th July date which is a 6 day hearing

[marble root]

whisky = cloud btw

[foggy matrix]

yeah. I'm following the actual points

just not sure who was counsel for who and what both parties wanted

[marble root]

this beardless guy is Beard, for MS

[foggy matrix]

Ok. Tha't's what I'd guessed. Just wasn't sure

[winged cosmos]

Judge is giving the adjournment

[marble root]

let's gooooooo

[winged cosmos]

8 minute break

[hallow valley]

What does that mean?

[winged cosmos]

It means that Microsoft and the CMA got what they wanted. They can sit down and discuss the deal as announced last week

[hallow valley]

But their not cleared to close?

[winged cosmos]

Judge has said it will be a conditional adjournment requiring certain evidence to be provided by the CMA

[rain escarp]

will take as long as it takes with whatever the deal is

[winged cosmos]

Not cleared to close, they have up to 8 weeks to discuss

[narrow talon]

Why do I get a feeling CMA will once again take the longest possible time?

[winged cosmos]

They themselves have said they want to do it in a expedited manner

[hallow valley]

So basically Microsoft has to extend the agreement that is set to expire tomorrow?

[lament wigeon]

Is it still looking good for Microsoft or is this suddenly looking...not great?

[winged cosmos]

8 weeks is just what the article of law states the extension can be

Still looking good as this is what Microsoft wanted

[lament wigeon]

Okay, sweet.

[rain escarp]

yeah Judge will give ruling when he gets back

[winged cosmos]

It means they now have judicial approval to follow through on this statement from last week https://twitter.com/bradsmi/status/1678796043545350144

Brad Smith (@BradSmi)

Our statement on the mutual request with the CMA for a pause of our appeal in the UK:

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Twitter · Jul 11, 2023, 3:59 PM

[lament wigeon]

Ah, I see.

[marble root]

sucks that we're seeing another 10 min break that's actually 30 mins long 💀

[wooden rapids]

good morning, what news?

good job me for saying that the moment it is no longer morning

[rain escarp]

not much going on,, CMA and MS/ABK get what they want and pause the hearing that was set for 11 days time. in hopes they can speed through this deal they have in place

have to wait for Judge to get back

also this :- https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1680985870424260608?s=20

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

We've just seen three parties totally in sync, which is why I believe there'll either be some provisional solution for closing the deal tomorrow or, more likely, an extension of the deal.

🧵137/X

Twitter · Jul 17, 2023, 5:00 PM

[winged cosmos]

Extension me thinks

[marble root]

wow a break that followed the time properly

[valid axle]

i'm here caught up

so the court is still going after 6pm?

[winged cosmos]

Yup still going

Wrapping up soon though

[valid axle]

wow they have video feed

[winged cosmos]

yeah people have behaved today. MSFT and CMA didn't want the livestream at all though

[foggy matrix]

MS was neutral iirc

[nocturne vine]

CMA was neutral. MS was against it

[marble root]

MS didn't want it, CMA was neutral

[foggy matrix]

ah. was backwards

[nocturne vine]

Judge wants more satisfaction lol

[valid axle]

everyone in the court room just looks like they want too go home 😅

[nocturne vine]

Understandable

[marble root]

🤣

[valid axle]

it is 1825 local timesuprised they are still going court days normally finish by 1630 here

[foggy matrix]

I feel it's likely he's going to dismiss the motion to quash

He's not really been supportive of either side's points.

[nocturne vine]

You never know

[foggy matrix]

True.

He's definitely making a point of beating it into them that he doesn't inherently believe it though

[valid axle]

most of what hes saying means nothing too me lol

oh can not make a order to adjourne

judge wants to know what changed with Sony accepting the deal

Clearly they knew they lost and just wanted to hang on

[nocturne vine]

It's like such a roller coaster...

[valid axle]

what side is what?

[nocturne vine]

The judge sounds like "I'm giving it a yes" and then "I'm giving it a no" lol

[foggy matrix]

It's literally that key and peele skit

parodying gordon ramsey

[nocturne vine]

Yes exactly lol

[valid axle]

so the cma on on the left

[foggy matrix]

"This food should only be eaten by a higher lifeform.......particularly one without taste buds"

[nocturne vine]

CMA on the left and Activision/Microsoft one the right

[winged cosmos]

Beard is CMA, and the beardless Mr Beard is MSFT

[gritty tangle]

Are they still chatting

Or is there an update

[rain escarp]

yep still talking

[gritty tangle]

Thrilling. I will discuss this over a pint with my mates this evening

We will have the first civilised discussion about the whole ordeal haha

[narrow talon]

https://twitter.com/fosspatents/status/1680999498183593984?s=46&t=pcX0Q9nnPaXAvKY5i6RfGw

[rain escarp]

its going long

[valid axle]

basically the judge as passed what both parties wanted more time too talk. As long as the paties proved the info that the judge is asking for

[winged cosmos]

Was always going to go long

[cursive bough]

I really hope this passes but even I know theres a possibility of it being blocked

[marble root]

it's passing. just a matter of when

[nocturne vine]

I wouldn't be surprised if Activision would be like "Nah we are good" and walk away at this point...

[winged cosmos]

5pm tomorrow CMA aim to submit their evidence by

[rain escarp]

they got a deal started already for the Cloud divestiture just all this takes time and CMA have to do tons of work

[cursive bough]

Does the CMA stand a chance of sticking to their choice

[winged cosmos]

Judge has said they have until midday Thursday

[rain escarp]

they are the last ones standing.. and Judge said loads of times that Microsoft still get Activision

[nocturne vine]

Judge doesn't think Activision will walk away with free 3 billion.

[winged cosmos]

That is all for today

[foggy matrix]

what a ride

[valid axle]

CMA asked for 5pm tomorrow judge I think thats a little unfair Thursday at noon

[lofty marlin]

Well, that was a long ordeal..

[marble root]

FTC hearings were better

[cursive bough]

Sounds like the CMA are bringing the big boys

[nocturne vine]

At least it's over for now

[lofty marlin]

Talk about beating around the Mulberry bush

[foggy matrix]

this was MS/ABK and the CMA jointly filing.

so it was them against the CAT Justice.

[cursive bough]

Didnt the FTC get their case denied

[nocturne vine]

I think Thursday for evidence... Friday hearing with his colleagues

[valid axle]

Did we get anything on what exactly the talks have been between the CMA and MS ? Is it true that they looking too sell cloud too EE?

[cursive bough]

Wait, you dont mean...

[nocturne vine]

They wouldn't tell. That's the reason why no decision today

[cursive bough]

Whoops, pinged by accident

[foggy matrix]

they applied to have the initial appeals hearing adjourned so they could refile for the new discussions.

[rain escarp]

the deal with EE talks are still going on, Microsoft couldnt give any info about that , Paul

[hallow valley]

So Microsoft and Activision have to extend their agreement that expires tomorrow?

[foggy matrix]

they wanted next week's court date cancelled basically

[nocturne vine]

Yes... Which might not happen and then it's all over

[cursive bough]

@hallow valley it's that or Activision walks out giving Sony a W

[rain escarp]

https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1681001062696615936?s=20

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

https://t.co/hVhvnBTq37

Twitter · Jul 17, 2023, 6:00 PM

[hallow valley]

Why would Activision walk away after all they’ve been through now?

[rain escarp]

thats his twitter spaces about whats gone on

brb food

[nocturne vine]

Cause if Activision walks away they get free 3 billion

[cursive bough]

That's a IF though

[marble root]

bro ABK is not walking. that will tank their share price by more than 3 billion. their share prices are this high because everyone thinks it's going through

[hallow valley]

They are so close… it would be such a waste after the battles against the FTC and Sony

[nocturne vine]

They just need to not accept an extension tomorrow and everyone there is 3 billion richer

[cursive bough]

I personally doubt they will walk away when they are this close

[hallow valley]

I don’t think every individual employee gets 3 billion

[nocturne vine]

No of course not.

[valid axle]

ah cool you can still watch the stream I just gone back too the start

[wooden rapids]

I don't think they meant it literally

[nocturne vine]

I meant the company there is 3 billion richer

[marble root]

this is right. the finish line is right there in sight

[nocturne vine]

I think they might extent by a week... At most

[cursive bough]

Look doomcraft, they are so close, I doubt they will walk away from this

[nocturne vine]

They can. And honestly I can see them doing it. We will have to wait a few hours until we hear what happens. Best to just play video games now and wait and see

[marble root]

if ABK walks they're losing 15-20 billion from the dropping stock pries 🤣
Microsoft's 3 billion is nothing

[valid axle]

Its pretty much going though all parties agree that but the CMA and MS just want time

[cursive bough]

hopefully sometime this year would be nice

I dont care if it takes a few months

[marble root]

worst case the deal goes through mid August

[cursive bough]

Just be glad we dont have to deal with the FTC

[nocturne vine]

For now

[cursive bough]

well for now at least

This month or August is good enough for me

[marble root]

wut. FTC is out of the picture

[winged cosmos]

except they're not

[marble root]

first they gotta talk to their internal judge and lose then lose in federal court

i ain't worried

[valid axle]

there's still a matter for the FTC appeal

[marble root]

right. they'll lose that too. no worries lol

[nocturne vine]

I just want this all to be over

The fact the CMA and FTC had so long to deal with this and then do this all weeks before it’s closed is just smh

[valid axle]

well the UK leaves everything too last min

We signed a brexit deal like 20 mins before the deadline

[marble root]

imagine if UK never left. they'd be part of EU's decision of ok'ing the deal ☠️ ☠️ ☠️

[valid axle]

Nah the CMA as been the body for 10 years

fun fact the CMA is a merger of about 3 bodies. They are there too look into mergers but the CMA itsself is born from a merger.

[rain escarp]

Florian accidentally muted his mic on Phone been quiet for over 10mins now

he doesnt check his phone unless there are questions so gonna be quiet for awhile oh well

[valid axle]

oops

i flicking though the per recorded steam of the hearing it gets juicy at points. The judge really pulling down about the deal at the weekend

[rain escarp]

yeah so looks like they get till 29th August, the October thing was just the 6 day hearing date instead of 28th July just incase CMA start messing about

[valid axle]

i mean they said 2 months thats past August but yeah almost

[nocturne vine]

Jesus christ man…. This takes so god damn long thanks to the cma…

[rain escarp]

yep they all working together now, its going through 100%

[valid axle]

The only thing too worry about is that the CMA my feel that the things that Microsoft have said they do ie cloud too EE need a new application

[rain escarp]

thats already started its what was talked about today

the deal has already been in motion for awhile now, EE is still pending for Microsoft at the moment though. which is why we didnt get any info

[valid axle]

we see I can see them saying that the deal as changed so we need too do everything again we need 6 to 12 months

it depends what the deal is exactly seems that there is other things Microsoft is offering from what they said.

[rain escarp]

you worry too much lol... the CAT is overseeing this aswell and needs information from CMA every step of the way

CMA has loads of things to write out plus maybe help from 3rd party

didnt see this :- https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1681000750028128257?s=20

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

The court, the CMA, Microsoft, and ABK all want to solve the problem as efficiently as possible.

I wish there were shortcuts, but it's not going to take long. 4-6 weeks.

🧵179/179

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Twitter · Jul 17, 2023, 5:59 PM

4-6 weeks so even better I guess

[valid axle]

6 weeks is the 29th Aug that the CMA delayed too they said 2 months in court today but yeah 6 weeks

[rain escarp]

Florian still muted lol

people have messaged but he never looks at his phone

[nocturne vine]

4-6 weeks ugh

[rain escarp]

my birthday next month imagine it closes. and on a Tuesday

[lament wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-picard-star-trek-the-next-generation-disappointed-gif-23456183

Why can't they just be like, "here's what we want to approve," and then Microsoft is like, "okay, bet, we'll work on that," and then close while making the CMA concessions? 4-6 weeks is such a chore at this point.

[rain escarp]

yeah they are fast-tracking a Phase 1 all over again

also many times Judge brought up the Sony agreement as he wanted it over with, but as Microsoft maybe want more acquisitions in the future thats why they working with CMA

[tepid wagon]

I feel like this is some kind of purgatory where we’re forced to watch an acquisition that’ll be so close to closing, only for it to be delayed over and over again.

It’s like legal blue balls.

[valid axle]

its because the deal is changing. Its not like the US where the FTC failed too extend the TRO. The CMA have blocked Microsoft appealed. Then both parties said they talk. Microsoft as offered too sell cloud rights in the UK too EE. But that deal is private and pending. CMA are saying because the deal changes we need too look at things again.

If the EE deal does come to light then EE will need too be looked into by the CMA and what the deal supports or does not support

Both parties are very hopeful to get things done by 29th Aug but if this fails for example EE and MS deal falls apart then there will be an appeal in October but thats like a worse case deal

[nocturne vine]

Ugh… more weeks waiting because of uk…

[north slate]

To make X-Men Legend backward compataible would they need to get a new license from Disney? X-Men Legend was a game developed by Raven Software.

[valid axle]

Depends who owns the rights and what they are no one can answer that

[north slate]

Ugh, I would love if I can play that game on my series x

[narrow talon]

https://twitter.com/charlieintel/status/1681045829186908164?s=46&t=pcX0Q9nnPaXAvKY5i6RfGw

[marble root]

🤣

[valid axle]

ABK stock

Microsoft deal is at $95 per share. Warren Buffet paid $77 a share and as 14 million shares in ABK.

[woeful siren]

for the vast majority of people it woul dnot have been a good play. A gauranteed 20% increase - but subject to short terms capital gain?

lol, no. way better options.

he bought in to get cheap microsoft stock for a long term hold

[serene thistle]

so when will ms close the deal or will they ask abk for extension

[drifting valley]

I don’t get the whole stock thing really 🤷‍♂️

[valid axle]

https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1680877844371570688

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

The Activision investors who message me appear no more patient with the @CMAgovUK situation than most gamers.

I'm CMA-friendlier at this point than either of those communities.

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Twitter · Jul 17, 2023, 9:51 AM

FACTS ^

[valid axle]

looks like its going too go on till September/October but no extension as been announed by ABK yet

Microsoft Stock

seem that the markets are hopeful 🤷‍♀️

[serene thistle]

dont they got until tomorrow to either close/ms need to pay abk 3 billion/extension?

[valid axle]

yeah, that's why i said abk hasn't extended yet

[serene thistle]

what did the cat meeting do?

[valid axle]

it apparently may not have too go to a vote for the ABK borad too extened. If there is well know agarement with in the borad they will not need too vote

The Cat Hearing was about the appeal hearing on the 28th July both MS and CMA had put in a extension as they both agreed to talk.

they bascally got what they wanted pending the CMA giving some legal paperwork the char asked for

[serene thistle]

will abk board want to renegotiate price with abk stock is only a few dollars lower than the agree upon price?

[valid axle]

they could

Microsoft as supose to have offered too sell cloud rights in the UK too EE. But that deal is private and pending. CMA are saying because the deal changes we need too look at things again.

[serene thistle]

and nz/aus r waiting on cma

[valid axle]

yeah

I expect the abk borad will just have a mutual understanding so no vote or extension will be needed of sorts

[serene thistle]

do u think ftc will try to cut its losses against ms/abk deal

if they try for the same thing they r probably gonna lose again

[valid axle]

could do they are not in a good place with everything thats going down in congress and also the Khan stuff

[oblique halo]

Cut their losses would be good or they will add to the losses 😆

[valid axle]

The thing is the deal is easy to stop before it closes. After it closes they are more limited. This stuff with the CMA just gives the FTC time

[serene thistle]

true.

[dim raven]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1680007684630667267

Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier)

1983: Brian Fargo starts company thanks to deal with Activision
1991: Allen Adham starts what would become Blizzard thanks to deal with Fargo
2002: Fargo starts inXile, later makes deal with Bethesda
2003: Fargo's former staff start Obsidian
2023: Microsoft owns all the above

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Twitter · Jul 15, 2023, 12:13 AM

[lament wigeon]

Brian Fargo just can't escape.

[rain escarp]

https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1681184571658780673?s=20

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

If they could still close the deal on the last day under the original merger agreement, that would happen in about 7 hours. If not, then they'll have to extend.

I feel good about it either way. It's a question of when not if the deal will happen, apart from minor residual risk.

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Twitter · Jul 18, 2023, 6:10 AM

whatever happens will be more news today

[nocturne vine]

Hopefully good news... I want it to end

[golden plank]

What happened now

[rain escarp]

not much today is the final day before either Microsoft decides it goes through or they ask for an extension things were talked about yesterday in UK for a 4-6 week extension but hasnt been fully finalised yet

loads of discussions in background. I dont know what will happen

[golden plank]

So for the final decision we have to wait 1 month?

[rain escarp]

yeah in UK they are working to get the Cloud deal in place, which will take time

[golden plank]

Oh okay

Thanks

[nocturne vine]

Just waiting and waiting and waiting smh

[sacred torrent]

Oh

[swift flume]

Any updates on closure or extension?

[silk turtle]

scroll up. All updates are there.

[rain escarp]

yep whatever happens seems the last regulator was CMA anyway. and they want their relationship to be good for whenever they start acquiring more.. as Rhinne said tons of stuff above from yesterdays court case hearing

[swift flume]

Yeah I watched it live. I was just wondering if there's any word about closure or extension as deadline is 1 hour away

[rain escarp]

likely extension if they waiting on the results from CMA, but there has been zero info today

soon as I said that :- https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1681276585205288965?s=20

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

This article is just a few hours old and from a reputable publication (Barron's):

#Microsoft Looks to Extend #ActivisionBlizzard Deal Deadline: Report https://t.co/EN9HPWg8Y6

So let's be conservative and assume that this is going to happen. Still in time even for @gamescom.

Twitter · Jul 18, 2023, 12:15 PM

[winged dawn]

rumours say Sony chose 10 years of CoD over 5 years of ABK

[lofty marlin]

We don't entertain / spread rumours in this server.

[rain escarp]

wasnt rumours.. its true.. they could of had all the games till 2027 but chose to decline so now they only get 10yr CoD deal

[winged dawn]

oh right mb

but it'd say 10 years of CoD is tenfold the profit of 5 years of ABK

[rain escarp]

Phil Spencer on Oath even said CoD would stay on playstation, then on Sunday they both signed a contract

[winged dawn]

you think they'd extend it after 10 years?

or would that be the end of cod on ps

[rain escarp]

would be upto Sony

[lofty marlin]

Ah okay. Just thought the years (duration) was not verified previously.

[winged dawn]

Microsoft could deny it though

[swift flume]

Everything is just rumours, no real word of extension from Microsoft yet

[rain escarp]

MS/ABK both asked for extension yesterday though, which would take upto 29th August or so.

getting that Cloud deal which is still pending sorted out

[swift flume]

@rain escarp they asked for extension on cma appeal but not the merger

Merger deadline is today in 30 mins

[rain escarp]

you really think they gonna close over the CMA after all that work yesterday

[swift flume]

@rain escarp no, but until they don't officially announce the merger extension we can't know

And legally they have to let the public know

Cutting it close

[serene thistle]

Very. Down to the hours now

[serene thistle]

Deadline in 30 min. Not end of day?

[swift flume]

I thought deadline was 18th July before the markets open?

[serene thistle]

I thought deadline is when the markets close

[swift flume]

Lol, I guess we will know soon then

[rain escarp]

Activision are being taken off the Nasdaq index thing today

I am seeing nothing on Twitter part from what Florian posted that I put in here

[serene thistle]

I have my parents invest for me. I have no clue about stocks

Im not an accountant by trade lol

[rain escarp]

yeah says here too :- https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1681280919808667649?s=20

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

@Styker16 @gamescom less than 30 minutes 😅 until the time set for the closing ceremony, though the agreement won't be terminated for another almost 20 hours

Twitter · Jul 18, 2023, 12:33 PM

[swift flume]

What does he mean by the agreement won't be terminated for another 20 hours?

[swift flume]

You are going to make bank once deal goes through

[rain escarp]

I follow him a lot, dont expect me to know what he saying.. he has been everywhere in the courtrooms tweeting things out for us all and then trying to make it easier to understand

[serene thistle]

What?

[swift flume]

How do I show tweets here?

[serene thistle]

Copy the link?

[swift flume]

https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1681282024420540423?s=20

[serene thistle]

If they dont close today and get extended do the stock market put abk back on the market?

[winged cosmos]

ABK weren’t taken off the market

[serene thistle]

I thought nasdaq did

[rain escarp]

still quiet here.

[winged cosmos]

They were only removed from the Nasdaq-100 index they’re still on the Nasdaq proper

[serene thistle]

Oh

I thought its all the same lol

[winged cosmos]

Nah the 100 is just an index of 100 of the largest companies with a large daily trading volume

[swift flume]

This means they did not close and deal has been extended

[serene thistle]

That doesnt mean that. Ms and abk need to announce that

[rain escarp]

https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1681295627374698496?s=20

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

Activision's stock is trading and markets are open. So unless they close tonight, we'll presumably hear about an extension then.

Twitter · Jul 18, 2023, 1:31 PM

[swift flume]

I thought they had to close before markets open ?

Fair enough then

[potent badger]

activision wont walk away from this deal now

their stock would be dropping more than 3 billion

[winged cosmos]

They would also get paid $3 billion

[potent badger]

so the shareholders get 95 dollars for every share and those 3 billions are getting shared evenly?

[winged cosmos]

No, if the deal collapses Microsoft have to pay $3 billion

[woeful siren]

if the deal does not go through, the stock doesn't just magically disappear, so shareholders don't just "get 95 dollars per share"

[potent badger]

in the context of the deal going through

isnt this quite obvious

[woeful siren]

since you were also talking about the $3 billion that MIcrosoft woudl have to give ABK if the deal doesn't go throguh... no it wasn't obvious

if the deal does not go throguh, the $3 billion also does not get "shared evenly" amongst shareholders

[serene thistle]

Well they still got till end of day to close or extend the agreement

[winged cosmos]

3 billion getting wiped off of the ATVI stock value isn’t too big anyway considering there has been 23 billion added during the merger timeline

[mystic hinge]

I mean 3 billion may have saved bed bath and beyond lol

[valid axle]

they extened too September maybe October for the CMA pencilled in date for Appeal if the talks do not work out.

Hopefully the talks work out though and the deal is closed in Aug

[swift flume]

I was really hoping to have activision games this summer

On gamepass

[woeful siren]

That was never a strong likelihood anyway

[serene thistle]

Never in 2023 at the minimum especially cod. Cod is probably til 2024 or 2025 when deal gets approved

[swift flume]

Maybe not new cods but older cods will come on, right? Plus blizzard games

[serene thistle]

No. Zenimax didnt release games on gp til months after deal was approved. Why would this be any different

Plus it still hasnt gotten full approval yet. Summer is definitely out of the question.

[swift flume]

Yeah, I know, I was hoping the deal would have closed by today so we could get it soon

[swift flume]

Wasn't it a month after closing?

[serene thistle]

Dont remember exactly but wasnt immediately after deal was approved.

[winged cosmos]

Zenimax timeline was announcement on 21st September, officially welcomes on 9th March, 20 games added on 12th March

But there is no indication the same will be true for Activision Blizzard King

[swift flume]

It actually came o 3 days later after they closed apparently

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/9/22319124/microsoft-bethesda-acquisition-complete-finalized

https://www.pocket-lint.com/games/news/xbox/156111-all-the-bethesda-games-coming-to-xbox-games-pass-on-12-march/

[marble root]

err what

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/03/11/20-bethesda-games-now-on-xbox-game-pass/

Mar 9 - Bethesda acquisition finalized
Mar 11 - blogpost about games going to GP
Mar 12 - 20 Bethesda games put into GP

[serene thistle]

Ok. But cod has deals with ps im not sure if those agreements also about exclusivity on competing platforms for entire ip

[marble root]

ok, would still be wrong about other ABK games

[foggy matrix]

Activision is significantly larger and more complex than Bethesda.

those pc builds were not build in a few days

they knew they would finalize and had the prep time

ABK is a MUCH more volatile situation

[swift flume]

As far as I'm aware, only new cods have exclusive contract with Sony. All previous cods (last gen) are not bound

[serene thistle]

Agreed. Plus blizzard said d4 wont hit gp anytime soon. But we r getting ahead ourselves. The deal isnt even approved yet or at least closed. Even if it closed it still needss approval from several regulatory bodies like cma, nz/aus etc

[marble root]

it's ok we can go back to the older days where console GP was better than PC GP. just release these ABK games on console first no problem. stuff like Diablo, Crash, Spyro have xbox releases

[serene thistle]

Wow is only pc only last i heard

[foggy matrix]

I could see them moving closer towards prepping some games to at least release on the PC Xbox store

We already have Infinite Warfare and CoD4:R on the MS Store for PC

but neither of those support the xbox app

[swift flume]

Don't they already have PC builds though? They'd just have to place a gamepass licensing key to lock them on gamepass

[foggy matrix]

no.

MS Store builds and Steam builds are not interchangable.

they will have to build out the integrations with the Xbox Gaming Services on PC and create new compiled builds.

[swift flume]

Can't they do what they do with ubisoft?

The download is done via their own launcher

[foggy matrix]

They'd have to build the integration into both storefronts/accounts. Which would take time.

[serene thistle]

Still they wont do anything til deal is approved. What they can do rn is moot

[foggy matrix]

Gamepass wise, don't expect anything

storefront release makes more sense earlier

since those would be normal units sold

just like if they were to choose to release on Steam or EGS

[serene thistle]

Ms brought zenimax for around 7 billion and abk for almost 10 times that amount. Plus they got thousands more employees that zenimax

[swift flume]

I'm sure they already started working on putting this games on gamepass. And as soon as the deal is approved, it will be on on a few days

[foggy matrix]

Storefronts are not just simple as releasing the same build.

and sure. they can prep

one way to do that is to have builds ready to go

if something crazy happened like the deal falling through, they could still release those builds on the storefront

[swift flume]

Is that from an insider?

[foggy matrix]

no

Just me asking him to release his game on MS Store/XB for PC

[marble root]

i seriously hope they don't wait until xbox pc versions are ready to start dropping games in game pass

[foggy matrix]

That's typically how it works

3 days after bethesda's finalizations they dropped the games in gamepass for console and pc.

those builds were not made in 3 days

[marble root]

yeah but i'm saying that even tho ABK's PC games aren't ready, their console versions are

[swift flume]

Also I just thought of this, they won't want to overshadow Starfield release. So if merger is accepted in August (as cma trial starts then) they will delay until a month after to give Starfield a chance

[serene thistle]

Doubt world of warcraft is coming to console tbh

[foggy matrix]

Console versions wouldn't be added to gamepass until after the deal finalizes

if they're certain of closing you'd guess that pc versions would be prepped before the closing date as well

[marble root]

you've mentioned WoW like twice. I ignored it the first time because i thought you were making a mistake but what does that have to do with anything lol

[foggy matrix]

that is, of course, conjecture.

WoW is not coming to gamepass. if it did I'd be shocked.

its model doesn't support it

[serene thistle]

True

[swift flume]

Can always change model...

[foggy matrix]

you purchase both expansions and subscriptions

the model's not going to change anytime soon.

[swift flume]

I don't get why people were acceptance of that model but hate microtransactions

[serene thistle]

Its not microtransactions

[mystic hinge]

A subscription is different than a pop up ad and it being pay to win ect

[foggy matrix]

also the fact you can renew subscriptions with gold

[marble root]

ok i think it's better to lay it out.

i think after the ABK merger is finalized, within one week they'll announce console versions of their games being put to GP. stuff like Crash, Spyro.

PC versions aren't ready so those versions are gonna be added to PC GP later.

[foggy matrix]

I'd say *"If PC versions aren't ready"

but yeah. I could see that being likely.

[mystic hinge]

Those timeline seem off

[hallow valley]

Crash and Spyro are probably the first games coming to gamepass after everything is set

[serene thistle]

Its still moot until deal is actually finalized

[mystic hinge]

One week? That's something you use to close out like the game awards or something.

[foggy matrix]

We've already discussed this Suzi

[marble root]

hey it's not me lol. Bethesda games got put into Game Pass 3 days after the acquisition on a random March. i'm being generous with the 1 week console releases on Game Pass

[serene thistle]

Probably sometime between now and september or october if ms wants everyone to approve deal though they need extension on current abk agreement

[marble root]

they didn't "save" the Bethesda games GP announcement for a game show

[foggy matrix]

they had their own little round table stream

I don't inherently think the same will happen with Activision, but there'll definitely be blog posts and news runs by Xbox

[woeful siren]

This seems reasonable and well thought out.

MSFT up almost $20

[rain escarp]

yeah from all the AI announcements earlier

[woeful siren]

Bad news for folks getting stock conversions lol

[winged cosmos]

Yeah charging $30 per user per month on top of the office 365 cost was always going to make the market happy

[swift flume]

Oh what was it?

[tough spear]

Deal paused for 2 months? Looks like the dial Vs FTC battle is back on!

[idle mantle]

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/07/18/microsoft-and-meta-expand-their-ai-partnership-with-llama-2-on-azure-and-windows/

[serene thistle]

What does that mean exactly with abk deal?

[rain escarp]

nothing, it goes with Tacs post of the Microsoft stocks going up

Microsoft had an event today

[idle mantle]

Nothing? Someone asked about the AI announcement

[serene thistle]

Oh

[river dune]

[proven sonnet]

anyone have updates on the abk deal im the uk?

[rain escarp]

yeah extended for 4-6 weeks maybe longer. while the Cloud deal gets sorted out and UK have loads of paperwork to do making sure the CAT is updated along the way

CMA, MS/ABK all think they can get this deal done at super speed. so all depends on how long it takes

[winged cosmos]

Yeah more than likely before the end of August but only time will tell

[drifting valley]

Close it let them close it uk

[drifting valley]

Activision makes other game's they don't just make cod

[serene thistle]

true

any update on abk extension?

[cold jewel]

Can someone gimme a recap and tell me why like every old CoD is 50% off

[foggy matrix]

major sale

[drifting valley]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2023/digital/news/supreme-court-rejects-block-microsoft-activision-blizzard-deal-1235673366/amp/ Thats it for the us

[drifting valley]

I'm planning on picking up black ops 2

[marble root]

gamers rise up

[foggy matrix]

the article references old news

we discussed it here on the day of

[lament wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[narrow talon]

https://twitter.com/fosspatents/status/1681631229450256384?s=46&t=pcX0Q9nnPaXAvKY5i6RfGw

More documents have become available relating to the acquisition.

[narrow talon]

Also from this press release is the following quote:

https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/activision-blizzard-announces-second-quarter-2023-financial

“we remain focused on the long-term opportunities ahead and completing our merger with Microsoft”

[hallow valley]

Merger deadline has been extended until October 18th

Toot toot

[narrow talon]

The ride never ends at this point!

[silk turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-want-it-to-stop-just-stop-i-want-it-to-stop-gif-17147965

[serene thistle]

At least they put in the extension

[hallow valley]

THE TRAIN KEEPS CHUGGING

TOOT TOOT!

[valid axle]

In the second quarter, Blizzard segment revenue grew over 160% year-over-year and operating income more than tripled year-over-year, each setting new quarterly records, driven by the launch of Diablo IV.

160% 👀

The agreement also includes amendments to Activision Blizzard’s commercial Xbox arrangements with Microsoft, valued at up to $250 million for each of fiscal years 2023 and 2024

Could this be Gamepass related i wonder

[serene thistle]

Possible.

Lets hope ftc wont try to fight against acquisition again they probably r going to lose anyways.

[dim raven]

https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/1681646844634599424

Phil Spencer (@XboxP3)

Microsoft and Activision Blizzard have extended the merger agreement deadline to 10/18. We're optimistic about getting this done, and excited about bringing more games to more players everywhere.

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Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 12:47 PM

[nocturne vine]

Another interesting info : https://twitter.com/charlieINTEL/status/1681653164443856898

CharlieIntel (@charlieINTEL)

The Activision Publishing division has already made over $1.1 billion in revenue in 6 months of 2023, a $200 million increase compared to last year.

Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 1:12 PM

[oblique halo]

Too slow penguin 😛

[marble root]

sucks July can't happen but looking forward to August

[dim raven]

oh my b

i didnt see any embeds and i went back

[cursive bough]

Phew, it will still possibly happen

[rain escarp]

its gonna happen just a case of when

[serene thistle]

Probably wont hear anything til next month with cma

[valid axle]

CMA still have too submit evidence and information the CAT chair asked for he gave them till noon tomorrow

[rain escarp]

yeah CMA got tons of work to do, but their final order is now 29th August.

that October extension is just a cushion incase anything happens and it goes over

[valid axle]

i just seen the time on that email phil sent 548am 😮

[dim raven]

lolol with all the ABK and Starfield stuff i forgot about Forza

[rain escarp]

also interesting is Activision are open to holding separate to get the merger completed while CMA investigate on their side. that would be a good thing if they can agree to that

[serene thistle]

After cma who else do we need approval from aus/nz?

[rain escarp]

nobody

[marble root]

australia and new zealand do not matter

[serene thistle]

Why dont aus or nz dont matter?

[rain escarp]

New Zealand decision should have been on the 17th... and Australia already commented. :- https://twitter.com/diane_alter/status/1680720138360717313?s=20

“We are closely monitoring developments in other jurisdictions, including receiving regular updates on the substantive issues from the parties & relevant stakeholders. The ACCC review timeline remains suspended.”

[serene thistle]

They probably make the decision after cma

[rain escarp]

yeah nothing to worry about though

[serene thistle]

If ms gives up control of their cloud stuff in uk to another company will that company need to maintain the data centers for cloud gaming in uk?

[rain escarp]

I think they would still be part of Microsoft just the gaming rights is gonna be 3rd party. likely means a separate subscription if you want cloud in UK

[marble root]

because neither of those regulatory bodies have the ability to do anything like put down conditions. look at what the FTC did; obtained a temporary restraining order to stop MS ABK from doing anything

[rain escarp]

with CMA being last, the Catribunal and Judge who is part of that is going to be rushing CMA to get things done quickly and they can talk more frequently to get this deal completed

like Florian said it could be done by time Gamescom is on which is near end of August

[serene thistle]

Do u think when deal gets approved. That candy crush coming to console or pc? I played a game similar to candy crush on console. It felt sliugish compared to mobile

[trim bramble]

Candy crush is already on PC iirc

I've played it on there

[rain escarp]

no idea on that,. plenty of them clones around though.

[valid axle]

Florian FTC still not decided what too do next

[serene thistle]

Yeah especially since last week their budget was cut by 25 percent.

And if ftc decide to go against ms abk deal the will probably gonna lose. Going 0 and 4 so far lol

[valid axle]

Florian does not think the FTC have enough time too get a sucessful appeal though before the 18th october

[serene thistle]

With budget cut ftc need to choose their battles more wisely. And why have ftc been going after tech companies than anything else

[woeful siren]

Because tech, insurance, cars, and oil are the biggest industries in the world. There aren’t a lot of car mergers in America right now and there is a different department trying to make sure Elon’s driverless death machines don’t end mankind.

[narrow talon]

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the current FTC head write a paper on the dangers of Amazon and mergers?

So it might just be against big tech in general, plus the price of the acquisition being a part of it.

[trim bramble]

Oh they are firmly against big tech lol

It's not a secret

And in fairness , some of their points have merit.

Our laws have not kept pace with the way the world works technology wise

Tech fast, law making slow.

I'm just ready for the hearings and things to all be over

[rain escarp]

dont think we got anymore

[marble root]

sad times. listening to the hearings was fun.

[woeful siren]

just stream cnbc all the time then. or courttv

[near charm]

At least for US right? UK and the 2 oceanic countries still have a decision right?

[rain escarp]

NZ should have been 17th nothing was updated on their website, Australia are just talking to other regulators and seeing how things go from there. so their timeline is suspended.

UK has to work a brand new deal due to the Cloud thats pending right now but they believe it will be done new date is 29th August. UK also say it may not take that long

[valid axle]

no more hearings in UK, but if the talks between Microsoft and CMA break down then the appeal hearing will be october.

[rain escarp]

October date is because during the case management if anything does go wrong. then thats the new date for an appeal. which would of been 28th July.

yep

MS/ABK and CMA have been talking for awhile. but yeah its illegal for them to just agree on things without all the paperwork. not sure why they got to talk to 3rd parties all over again though

[valid axle]

they have too allow 3rd party and public to have a say on things because the deal changing. Ie Microsoft selling rights too cloud, So the CMA legally have too give anyone a chance too bring up concerns or support

For example O2 might have an issue with it. Not saying they will but they might

[rain escarp]

ah okay yeah makes sense..

[narrow talon]

I guess another part of the acquisition would be guaranteeing Blizzard games go to Steam (for context Overwatch 2 goes to Steam next month)?
Or is this purely a Blizzard decision no MS required?

[valid axle]

nothing to do with it

the UK concern is cloud

The US concern was playstation

[lament wigeon]

Since the supreme court rejected the FTC's appeal, they're pretty much dead, right? There's nothing they can do to further delay this?

[narrow talon]

Ah

[valid axle]

the Appeal hasnt been rejected though

[narrow talon]

Microsoft asked the FTC to remove the case from adjudication so we shall wait and see what the FTC does

[marble root]

you're thinking of the other lawsuit filed by gamers ™️

[lament wigeon]

Oh.

[valid axle]

the extension of the restring order too stop them closing was rejected by the 9th circuit

[lament wigeon]

So they can still screw with it and make more of a mess?

[marble root]

yes. but i wouldn't listen to the ackshually crowd. the FTC is done even if they have "options" it's as good as 100% that anything they do has 0% efficacy

[valid axle]

The court as ruled in favour of Microsoft the FTC appealed and that appeal is to be heard but its expected to fail because they have not shown the 9th circuit any worng doing by the jufge or any point of law that they could say were handled wrong. They basically have no case

[narrow talon]

If the FTC continues to go through with their “will harm Sony” theory I will be astonished about it

Especially after the 10 year deal was signed

[valid axle]

yep the 10 year deal is a massive blow too the FTC Appeal

[serene thistle]

With ps cod deal ftc appeal is dead

Since their reasoning is it will hurt playstation players

[valid axle]

meh i just broke my mouse 😦

[serene thistle]

Sorry 2 hear that paul

[marble root]

use the other mice you have laying around

[valid axle]

I botched it with tape for now

[serene thistle]

If ftc going to appeal how could they win with xbox/abk deal with sony which dispproves their point

[valid axle]

exactly they try and point too cloud but the appeals court will only overrule the court if there is some kind of injustice that the judge Corley did not look at. So far in there appeal docs they just pointing too the same points that have already been ruled on

[nocturne vine]

Ftc will try anything. Thats the strategy so far and will be if they keep going

[narrow talon]

Yeah, I also doubt that Congress will get them to drop the case despite urging from members.
Personally, I want the ride to end, hopefully with positive vibes.

[serene thistle]

When the appeal fail can they appeal to a higher court?

[valid axle]

not that i am aware of the appeals court 9th circuit is that higher court

[marble root]

https://vxtwitter.com/leah_nylen/status/1681728837330059264

FTC's ALJ Chapell, in a hearing for another case, says they are "in limbo" on the Microsoft case right now. But he thinks its a "waste of time and energy" to have admin trials move forward when the federal courts are considering issues related to the same merger.

[serene thistle]

How many cases do they have with microsoft?

[wet mountain]

Real

[rain escarp]

https://vxtwitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1681776007873716226?s=20

[foggy matrix]

twitter embeds on discord are busted again so you'll have to vx the links

[wet mountain]

TWITTER!? SJDJFHFHNDJDJS

DIES

[rain escarp]

thanks Dark

[foggy matrix]

👍

[rain escarp]

also FTC August 2nd has been put on hold so nothing to worry about there.

[serene thistle]

Didn't DOJ and ftc put out new guidelines for mergers

[rain escarp]

yeah earlier today I think

[foggy matrix]

got a link?

[rain escarp]

best I could find :- https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/19/ftc-and-doj-lay-out-rules-for-merger-review-to-reflect-digital-economy.html

Koticks under contract for ABK till April 2024

"I've committed to MS for as long or as little as they need me to help with the integration."

[serene thistle]

Really?

[rain escarp]

yeah he was on CNBC earlier

[serene thistle]

If ms going the same way as zenimax acquisition with abk then they r going with the hands off approach

[rain escarp]

yeah they arent gonna force and tell ABK what games they should make. and as its all Game Pass content and many millions of people subscribed we could be in for some amazing new games likely before the next console launches

we know Blizzard already making a new game they talked about it before.

survival game

[serene thistle]

The only issue will be battle.net on pc. How will that work with xbox pc app

[rain escarp]

well we know some games are going to Steam

[serene thistle]

Yeah I have mw2 on steam

[rain escarp]

Overwatch 2 is going there 10th August

what we need to do now though is just wait on information cause both companies will tell us all this when they are ready lol. I only know things from what has been posted from Twitter

[hallow valley]

Yeah, but studios will be free to work on different things now, right? Since atm studios such as Toys for Bob are being forced to work on COD

[rain escarp]

its gonna be upto them if they decide to do something else but yeah last year Phil Spencer was excited to look at some of their older IP, but look at Bethesda and the new stuff for Game Pass

I dont believe that same machine for CoD will be needed theres so many studios who know FPS over at Xbox already who can help out

and nobody knows the future of cod really I mean how much longer is the content gonna be meaningful going from different periods I wouldnt mind some sequels though like a Ghosts 2 or something

but then I am just here for the campaigns havent played MP in a long long time

[serene thistle]

true. but the next 60 days is going to very exciting for starfield and the abk merger lol

[narrow talon]

Judge Corley put out a less redacted version of her denial of the PI motion.
Link for those who want to read it:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23882474-23-07-19-final-prv-of-23-07-10-pi-opinion

[drifting valley]

If they resolve the cma issue and everyone else approved can they seal the deal before this

[rain escarp]

yes it is likely going to close in August

CMA final decision is set for 29th August but they are saying they might not need that long

that October date is just a padding incase things do go wrong and need some extra time

plus thats the new date for when the appeal would be, the one that was originally set for 28th July

Florian who I been following says there is never 0 risk in this business but yeah he believes it could be done by Gamescom which is near end of August

Bobby Kotick on CNBC says it could be done in 45 days so thats what start of September

[north slate]

The sooner the better, can't let it take away shine from Starfield

[woeful siren]

Bobby had said many things in the past that directly contradict information given to him by his employees. I would not even bother taking his statements with grains of salt.

[wanton harness]

I hope it goes through soon.

[lament wigeon]

https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1681787118194917377?t=L6CJUTcS-jSEN9LNJ0oYHA&s=19

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

Judge Corley just released a less heavily redacted version of her denial of the FTC's PI motion:

https://t.co/hkc2B4EHmw

Additional passages are now publicly accessible, particularly about Sony!

Here's a long passage about Sony's practices that was previously redacted:

As a…

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Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 10:04 PM

Not that we didn't already know this, but yeah. Judge confirmed through the less-redacted decision that Sony paid to keep FF16 off Xbox.

It was part of why she rejected the FTC. All that going so hard at exclusivity really bit Sony in the rear-end.

[rain escarp]

yeah they tried things which is why Xbox ended up buying Bethesda

[wanton harness]

Starfield was going to completely skip; XBox, now it's skipping Playstation lol

[rain escarp]

oh well should be over soon.. today CMA have to give details to Catribunal to get the ball rolling plenty of paperwork for CMA to fill out seeing as they getting a do-over new deal to work on

[winter ravine]

I found a secret channel

[wanton harness]

Not really. It's a forum thread inside #general-chat

[drifting valley]

Honestly this is a food thing because it would of hurt the modding community badly

Because ps would of most definitely made it just a ps5 excluisve and not made it for PC for x amount of time

[drifting valley]

I think ultimately the first change needs to be every 2 years a cod comes out no more yearly stuff

[wooden rapids]

that doesn't make too much sense when deathloop and ghostwire, both timed console exclusives for ps, also had pc versions launched the same day

i don't think sony would pay them to not make a pc version

[drifting valley]

I mean the world may never know if it was going to be on PC or just on ps at launch but if I had to take a guess it would be ps limited time but PC only after

[wooden rapids]

why not? wouldn't harm sony

[nocturne vine]

Kotick up till 2024 makes sense. He needs to hand over the whole operations and tell Microsoft what is going on internally.

[woeful siren]

There are a hundred people more qualified to tell Microsoft “what’s going on internally” than him

[nocturne vine]

For sure. But he is the CEO after all so he thinks its his responsibility

[woeful siren]

Any smart person at Microsoft will go to the sources of truth.
Some exec will talk to Bobby to let him say whatever he wants, but that won’t be the info acted upon

And that isn’t even specific to the “Bobby is an out of touch idiot” aspect, that is true of any merger or acquisition - ceo doesn’t know every technical detail and the details they do know are often not enough for integration decisions/actions

(Well for any company bigger than a 40 person stsrtup lol)

[nocturne vine]

That is indeed true. But I think he would want to give an outline on what is going on and then they will walk to the specified people and talk to them afterwards. In general I would want Kotick to be gone asap but I also think it was inevitable that he would stay a bit longer after the merger.

[rain escarp]

not much news from CMA today, just a tiny interview saying that they are still waiting on the revised deal paperwork from Microsoft

but yeah obviously she is infront of a camera and would say the things she did. Sarah Cardell is it

[serene thistle]

Probably we wont hear much until they finish reviewing the paprwork deal that ms submitted to cma

[rain escarp]

CMA have a deadline on something to post into CAT aswell today

[serene thistle]

So they need to post cat today?

[rain escarp]

ah would of been posted in already they had until 12. its near 4pm here now lol

CAT wanted the CMA to inform the court of progress

so yeah will be quiet for awhile I would imagine. guess it back to playing games

[serene thistle]

I forgot im like 6 hours behind u

[nocturne vine]

Do we know if the documents will be live tho

[valid axle]

they wont be because they contain information about ongoing talks that are private

Microsoft and ABK did not want too talk about them that's why the judge had too do it this way. Thats why they asked the stream to be cut and the chair overruled

[narrow talon]

People are reporting that the FTC has paused its in house trail against MS, which would allow for settlement talks.

[winged cosmos]

https://twitter.com/charlieintel/status/1682100992081371138

CharlieIntel (@charlieINTEL)

FTC has agreed to pause its internal case against Microsoft & Activision Blizzard and is open to settlement talks over the deal, reports Bloomberg

FTC is still appealing federal court decision for now. https://t.co/Ih7sE3suwb

Twitter · Jul 20, 2023, 6:51 PM

[marble root]

Don't give them anything

[drifting valley]

Didn't the ftc lose the appeal

Like 3 times now

[serene thistle]

This is another thing that they have

[serene thistle]

I thought it was 4 times

[drifting valley]

To many times

[rain escarp]

yeah this was supposed to be infront of a different Judge for August 2nd

FTCs in-house judge

[serene thistle]

So will the judge be biased against ms?

[rain escarp]

no idea but its been paused and doesnt look like it will ever start

[serene thistle]

Ftc needs to do something not to lose anymore and save face

Wave the white flag

[valid axle]

they havent lost the the microsoft case 4 times lol you can only appeal once

[drifting valley]

Feels like 4 times loool

[valid axle]

yes

[foggy matrix]

You can technically appeal more than once Paul

however....that's once per tier of court

they could eventually try to go through SCOTUS, but really it's unlilely they'd succeed there

then they can also appeal within their own ALJ as well

if the FTC wanted to try to do all of that, it'd drag their cases out for years

[serene thistle]

they dont have that big a budget to drag this on plus their other mergers that they r looking at like meta and twitter etc

[dim raven]

where is it on the docket or in the news that meta and twitter are merging?

[valid axle]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-elon-musk-explode-video-game-gta-v-gif-17789712

[dim raven]

Also, they have a budget of $430MM for FY2023 and have asked for nearly $600MM next year:

thats larger than probably the top 5 public tech company's legal budgets combined

[woeful siren]

The two ceos are going to fight and which ever one wins absorbs the others company

[stark jasper]

so it's a complete skip? not just a timed one?

[marble root]

console timed exclusive of 12 months. doesn't mean it'll get ported though -> see Final Fantasy VII Remake

[stark jasper]

exactly, that's what I have in mind.

we'll probably get 7R when the saga is complete, just like Kingdom Hearts

[marble root]

🤣

[serene thistle]

maybe maybe not

[dim raven]

LOL!! just wild when people talk with such authority and could not be more wrong

[proven sonnet]

what if instead of legal battles we just had cage matches between the regulators and companies

[marble root]

https://vxtwitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1682153245232320514

U.S. FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION WITHDRAWS CASE SEEKING TO BLOCK MICROSOFT'S ACQUISITION OF ACTIVISION

i thought vx embded tweets but guess not. i never wanna hear "FTC has another move to make" again here 🤣

[rain escarp]

you still would need the discord server role to even get posts/links etc to work

[marble root]

right, explorer role. forgot about that

[proven sonnet]

now all we have to deal with is the british, and we all can finally rest

[marble root]

waiting for that CMA downfall any day now 🙏

[swift flume]

CMA said they are waiting for Microsoft to submit their new plan

[valid axle]

then you be waiting a long time

[marble root]

waiting a max 30 days? ez money

[valid axle]

once microsoft submit what ever it is ie the EE deal. I expect them to push the CMA too allow them to close in the US and allow for ABK to be a holding company

especially now it seems the FTC are not pushing it anymore

[serene thistle]

Does it mean that ftc is out or can they refile at a later date

[dim raven]

its paused.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1jCfpAXoAAXLG5?format=jpg&name=large

[serene thistle]

Oh

[dim raven]

FTC "Withdraws case" is not completely accurate

They have filed a motion to Withdraw Proceeding from Adjudication

in literally other words, have filed a request to step back from having the court case be actively in trial with the judge

the judge granted it

[proven sonnet]

ah alright

[dim raven]

they hereby are stayed - a stay is pretty much a pause button

stay. we're not moving forward. we are not dismissing the case.

[serene thistle]

So the can refile at a later date right?

[dim raven]

it would not be refiled

it is stayed

[serene thistle]

Oh

[dim raven]

you dont refile something you paused

the case isnt done

[proven sonnet]

[serene thistle]

K. What can they do anyways now? With xbox/ps deal in place?

[dim raven]

They can either ask for it to be dropped or continue the case at a later date

[woeful siren]

Just because two companies have an agreement, doesn’t mean the government has to think it is a good one

[dim raven]

see: AT&T/T-Mo

see: AT&T/DTV

see: Intercontinental Exchange / Black Knight (which is happening as we speak)

albeit thats a horizontal merger

[serene thistle]

I have no idea about business or anything lol. Not a lawyer or business by trade

[dim raven]

me neither.

[woeful siren]

Most of twitter neither ha ha

[mystic hinge]

I'm surprised Intercontinental wanted a company with such a flesh wound

[dim raven]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1682427605843099648

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

Microsoft’s CMA appeal has been officially paused in the UK. We won’t get to see Microsoft’s proposals for the restructuring of the Activision deal as they’re “substantially confidential in nature,” but the Competition Appeal Tribunal is happy to suspend the appeal

Twitter · Jul 21, 2023, 4:29 PM

[mystic hinge]

Smells like progress

[oblique halo]

Just finish it lol

[rain escarp]

ah here we go didnt see this before

The CMA said it is likely to be able to reach a new provisional view on the restructured deal in the week beginning Aug. 7.

Explaining why the deal should now be given the green light, Microsoft argued that the binding commitments accepted by the European Union shortly after Britain had blocked the deal changed matters, court documents published showed.

EU changed things for the deal, because they offered " Monitoring and Enforcement " to make sure Microsoft are doing what they are supposed to.

source :- https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/britains-competition-appeal-tribunal-grants-adjournment-microsoft-activision-2023-07-21/

[balmy thorn]

Anything new with the CMA?

Other than the deadline getting extended

[balmy thorn]

So what does this mean?

[dim raven]

It means that, as it was said, the CMA is likely to be able to reach a new provisional view on the restructured deal in the week beginning Aug. 7.

[rain escarp]

basically means CMA will let MS know if they think what the deal offers is good enough by that date

[balmy thorn]

Good way of explaining it, thanks

[hallow valley]

What the heck, Sony tryna buy Steam?

[rain escarp]

fake

[wooden rapids]

that is such an absurd rumor

[stark jasper]

this acquisition made some content creators show their true faces for better or for worse.

[rain escarp]

Florian is awake

Familiarity with a matter, after an extensive prior review, saves time. Not only the new deal structure but also the Sony agreement and Google's U.S. testimony on cloud competing with console and PC games counsel in favor of clearance.

just response from that Reuters article earlier

[wanton harness]

Sony couldn't afford to buy Steam. True story.

[drifting valley]

Wait did we win

[lament wigeon]

Not yet.

[drifting valley]

: (

[swift flume]

So after August 7, if CMA likes the deal, MS can close? Or does CMA still need to carry out it's phase 1 process?

[nocturne vine]

We will see

[oblique halo]

Cma next week yes close August......2026

[winged dawn]

they tried and it was denied

[cursive bough]

If it is approved in august, they will be one step closer to closing it

[balmy thorn]

They can close while they're discussing it with the CMA but we'll see

[woeful siren]

And what would happen if they closed without CMA cat agreement first? Lol

[balmy thorn]

Oh

Well hopefully there's a high chance of them approving

[woeful siren]

Yes, that was the point lol

[honest flare]

They have future acquisitons planned. If they play ball now, then chances are the cma won't oppose them in future acquisitions simply out of pettiness. If they create bad blood however then cma will create roadblock every chance they get.

[wooden rapids]

believe it or not, very expensive legal procedures don't happen out of pettiness like you claim

i also don't recall ever seeing an official source on future acquisitions

[wanton harness]

Phil Spencer quite recently did an interview where he said they have other ones planned, just no names announced yet.

[serene thistle]

lets worry about this acqusition first than any future ones down the road

[drifting valley]

Microsoft on there way to buy out every gaming company real

[nocturne vine]

At least they could afford it

[honest flare]

They had the chance to close over the cma and the ftc before the deadline but they didn't putting the deal at potential risk meaning anything can happen and also increasing the breakup money from 3 bill to 4 bill. Which tells me that they're not cooperating just out of the kindness of their heart. You don't put 69 billion on the line to play patty cake with regs. This is about something bigger. More future acquisitions like Sega potentially

[valid axle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shocked-surprised-gif-25723736

[sly kiln]

this is getting interesting

[serene thistle]

Sounds like its going to be slow until cma/nz release their decision

[valid axle]

yeah will be now CMA should be before though they expecting week of the 7th Aug NZ date is the 18th

[serene thistle]

I thought nz was the 2nd

[rain escarp]

NZ is date 8th August

[valid axle]

meh NZ doesnt really matter

[serene thistle]

So 2nd week of august

[valid axle]

5 million people

[serene thistle]

Guessing thats how many living in nz

[valid axle]

correct

fun fact there is 25 million sheep in NZ

[serene thistle]

Well then we probably get bombarded from twitter Bout this starting next week lol

[near charm]

Did AUS already approve deal? Or are they waiting for CMA as well?

[rain escarp]

yep they gave a brief thing just saying they still talking to other jurisdictions and that was it.

[near charm]

Ah ok

[rain escarp]

just have to wait till week of 7th August now, so gonna be slow news, CMA will give update of their inquiry group which is their 3rd party to see how its going

[balmy thorn]

So will the CMA make a decision at the deadline (October) or before?

[silk turtle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[oblique halo]

🤷‍♂️

[dim raven]

[sly kiln]

[drifting valley]

One day this will all be over

[silk turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-one-eternity-later-gif-7900643

[serene thistle]

Lol

[rain escarp]

CMA's deadline is 29th August, Microsoft extended to October incase anything goes wrong and needs more time. 18th October is where the original appeal date which was moved from 28th July.

also today EU has got their trustee to monitor and make sure Microsoft are following everyone's remedies properly

funny that its someone who is based in UK

[rain escarp]

more info on the "monitoring" :- https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1683861476316942336?s=20

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

Today the EU Commission made a decision dated July 19 public: the approval of UK-based firm Evelyn Partners (https://t.co/WgzLan6CP1) as the Monitoring Trustee in connection with Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard. Potentially the EC coordinated with @CMAgovUK.

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open thread to read more

[nocturne vine]

Wait… monitoring? Just… why?

The fact that this is needed for a gaming based acquisition is getting ridiculous

[dim raven]

gaming is the highest-grossing entertainment sector..

[rain escarp]

it was always going to be part of it, EU wanted it as part of their remedies. to make sure Microsoft are following their contracts, and also parity and whatever else is going on

originally UK didnt want to do any monitoring post merger

[near charm]

Also there's a lot of money being moved around here

[serene thistle]

Its a close to 70 billion for the acquisition lol though i wish i have that much

Why is the company thats doing the monitoring a uk company instead of a company in the eu?

[rain escarp]

Florian in that tweet thinks EU and UK worked together and picked that one, I dont know no other information part from that one letter

[foggy matrix]

I would be fine with a "measly" 1 billion

🤣

[serene thistle]

Same.

[mystic hinge]

I'm ok with small 300,000k USD.

[valid axle]

https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1683707030987579392

Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents)

Apparently the FTC failed to do its homework with respect to the sealing of confidential information (such as from Nintendo) contained in its proposed findings of fact and conclusions of law. At least Judge Corley couldn't easily find the relevant sealing motion. Let's see 🤦‍♂️

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Whoops

FTC redacted some stuff about Nintendo but the redactions apparently weren't supported by a motion. Either Nintendo or the judge can not find the motion for to seal

[serene thistle]

Another mark against ftc

[stoic sparrow]

the Ftl loses again

[stark jasper]

faster than light?

[proven sonnet]

sigh

if only the uk was still in the EU

all this wouldn’t have happened

[winged cosmos]

it would have still happened

[nocturne vine]

In some way or another

[winged cosmos]

The CMA have been operating since 2013 before brexit was even a twinkle in politicians eyes

[proven sonnet]

morning people, any news for us all today?

[rain escarp]

its all behind the scenes now till the week of 7th August

[proven sonnet]

so 2 more mondays until we get some news

[rain escarp]

basically CMA and Microsoft working together they arent posting any information till about then.

yeah pretty much

[proven sonnet]

alright

[serene thistle]

Yep.

[marble root]

https://ec.europa.eu/competition/mergers/cases1/202330/M_10646_9311516_7443_3.pdf

256-page report of EU's decision

[serene thistle]

Is this the one that they approved a few months back w8th monitoring issues

[mystic salmon]

how close is this acquisition ? i'm kinda lost lol

[marble root]

yeah

[rain escarp]

UK have a deadline of August 29th but have said it may not take that long, but Microsoft have extended the deadline till October just incase something goes wrong and UK need more time.

[serene thistle]

Waiting on cma decision by august 7th

[rain escarp]

preliminary decision not full

[serene thistle]

Oh right

[kind crown]

Wonder what would need to happen for it to pass with CMA, I guess it would just be related to cloud adjustments

[nocturne vine]

Who knows. We just gonna wait.

[valid axle]

we know its related too cloud

[drifting valley]

So by October we will either own or not own abk

[valid axle]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-perhaps-maybe-gif-16249623

[rain escarp]

yeah we know some pieces of Info right after UK blocked, EU came in and asked for remedies. they have worldwide cloud commitments now, and there are game license keys so players can use any of the cloud services, also EU has ordered a company to monitor Microsoft.

thats all part of what Microsoft are gonna give CMA

from all the info I havent seen a word about EE

[drifting valley]

Honestly I'm just at the point of if this goes through the company better be restructred heavily because they are destroying everything they have talking about ab

[valid axle]

I think thats unlikely but its certainly posable. They are making a killing at the moment

[drifting valley]

Diablo is falling apart overwatch is on its dying breath cod hasn't been good in forever StarCraft is just a dead series world of Warcraft is falling apart yet again ya they need some heavy restructering

[rain escarp]

we will know something the week of 7th August, a provisional view on the new deal, CMA already said they could close before 29th August anyway. many are saying it could be done by Gamescom which starts on the 23rd I think.

[valid axle]

Diablo falling apart? You mean the game that as smashed so many records and as been the best selling game for Blizzard. Sure there is issues with Season 1.

What matters is the money

[drifting valley]

And this is a problem with the gaming industry I'm pretty sure it's going to be a repeating story for diablo I have no trust in blizzard anymore

[valid axle]

well the market disagres and its sad but thats what matters

[drifting valley]

The market disagrees because they buy into the garbage hype and then complain about it after the fact that they gave them there money

[valid axle]

every service game as this issue at the start

[woeful siren]

Other than “blizzard bad” I’d love to hear how Diablo is “falling apart” since I have it on my goty contender list

[valid axle]

I think there is a high case to say when the deal goes though alot of people management will leave ABK. That could be a big issue for microsoft and that could lead too what your saying about better be restructured. But it will not be for the reasons you say

[short snow]

internet noise & real life is very different

[mystic hinge]

Uhh yeah I don't think so.

[valid axle]

lets make this back compat and have a gun 2

[sonic cairn]

Pretty sure there was a Gun 2, lol

[drifting valley]

Ngl we need more pirate games and Western games so yes

[wooden rapids]

i could've sworn the 360 version was backwards compatible

[valid axle]

nope

[valid axle]

nope

https://fraghero.com/gun-2-cancelled-according-neversoft-president/ it was cancelled or rumour too be

[mystic salmon]

when there's gonna be news ?

[rain escarp]

all we know is the week of 7th August

[valid axle]

maybe

Paul Did you see about the Gamers Vs MS US case?

Microsoft as filed too the 9th Circuit to not even atempt too look at it. Saying that the PlayStation deal means no one will be locked out of cod

[rain escarp]

yeah I been reading about it, also saw the Case Management conference from July 17th that we all listened to its in written form now

[drifting valley]

One day this will all end and overwatch will have master chief in it

[mystic hinge]

I don't know about that

But maybe a soldier 76 themed skin

[narrow talon]

Would be a neat second crossover skin

[foggy matrix]

He could come to CoD

we've seen how far CoD will go

they could go even further, and much easier if both are first party

B.J. Blazkowicz, Doom Slayer, and Master Chief in a future season would be sick.

[narrow talon]

Isn’t Lara Croft currently planned to come to CoD?
I know it is off topic to the thread but I saw something like this online.

[foggy matrix]

Snoop Dogg and Nicki Minaj are coming in upcoming season

[narrow talon]

I thought Snopp Dogg was already in?
Guess I was thinking of Vanguard

[foggy matrix]

yeah, he's back

[idle mantle]

Yes, the PS blog posted about Lara Croft

[foggy matrix]

Comically, that was not supposed to be announced yet.

[drifting valley]

World of warcraft halo crossover

No way

[sly kiln]

they put the mashur chefne in the conk of duty

[mystic hinge]

Nikki manaj... What is she going to bounce a grenade off her butt at you?

[sly kiln]

Activision: 📝 📝 📝 📝

[mystic salmon]

me waiting for activision to finally play warzone in my phone 🛏️

[proven sonnet]

games going to be like 1 tb

nay

10 TB

[grim root]

Back in cod ghost i think

[mystic salmon]

you mean warzone mobile or warzone of console ?

[proven sonnet]

both

[mystic salmon]

max space cod mobile is 20gb
current warzone mobile is around 8gb so i really doubt it

i'd say approximately 50gb roughly

[proven sonnet]

cod games IN GENERAL are very big in size

[mystic salmon]

i'm glad cod mobile arent big in size, they're well compressed

4gb for me rn

meanwhile console gonna b 1tb lmao

[edgy lance]

This is why ik buy a 2tb expansion

I need me all of them cods

[cursive bough]

I have a 4tb external hard drive, I think I'll be good

[woeful siren]

Note that an external hard drive connected to a Series console won’t let you play any game that gets optimized for Series consoles

[cursive bough]

Easy fix, put the old cod games on the harddrive

Keep the new ones on the internal hard drive

[narrow escarp]

This is what I do, got an external ssd for the old stuff and use the internal storage for the current gen

[low sinew]

HDD for old games. SSD + internal for current gen

[low sinew]

So basically in your case it literally doesn’t matter where any of your games are placed

[mystic salmon]

no news yet ? or until 7th august

🦛

[rain escarp]

https://twitter.com/EverbornSaga/status/1685973036560769024?s=20

Everborn Saga (@EverbornSaga)

Microsoft has officially submitted their new deal proposal to the CMA (on July 25th)

It is unusual for CMA to entertain new proposals after a final report but Apparently at the behest of CAT the they at least considering a new proposal from MS and the CMA is now open for…

Twitter · Jul 31, 2023, 11:17 AM

more info on the link from CMA website

[lament wigeon]

Interesting.

[rain escarp]

yeah slow news week unless we get another update like this. next week will be full of information as its a provisional view to all the details Microsoft have given CMA