Diablo IV

[silk anvil]

uh, 84, 82, 81

[modern pecan]

oh wow. I have so much catching up to do. Only been playing since Monday

[silk anvil]

or maybe laura is 85 now, idr

[vague ravine]

Also, vampiric enemies can do one.

When were you planning Uber Lilith this weekend, Eric?

[silk anvil]

We want to try sometime later today or tonight most likely

Since we managed the lvl 50 nightmare with 104's, figure should be ok

[vague ravine]

I'm free up to 8pm UK time before I have to go play chef if you still have a slot free and running it before then.

[silk anvil]

I doubt it'll be before then, since that's like noon and will probably just be waking up lol

[vague ravine]

Ah okay, no worries.

[silk anvil]

timezones rip

[modern pecan]

Nice I got the glyph I needed first time trying

[silk anvil]

I'm wanting to change my build but I can't until I get the other unique druid hat 😐

[modern pecan]

What druid build are you going? My brother is a druid and complaining that he never does any damage

[silk anvil]

This is what I'm mostly following atm https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/pulverize-druid-guide

[modern pecan]

Thanks I'll pass it on

[vague ravine]

World boss in 8 minutes

[ripe sorrel]

just had my first encounter with the butcher and it didn't go too well 😦 Though this was on my levelling Druid so I didn't expect much. Got it down to a slither of health but ran out of potions. Really couldn't get any closer to killing the butcher first time without actually killing... Not amused with that one bit. Next time I'll make sure I kill AND have potions to spare

[vague ravine]

He's not even worth killing. Never drops anything good.

It's just super frustrating when you get him in an Ancestral nightmare dungeon where you're limited to four revives.

[ripe sorrel]

hah, yeah I can imagine. Very tanky. First time I've seen an enemy really take the fight to this Druid and not die. Even made light work of the actual dungeon boss right after (didn't even use one revive) and it was a boss I used to struggle with in the beta 😄

[ripe sorrel]

following some of these guides is so time consuming. Probably spend more time filling up the inventory with possible loot with good rolls and going through that than I do levelling. Wish there was a loot tool in game that could auto drop/set as trash or even favourite if a piece of loot meets roll requirements. Could make building a character the recommended way just that bit easier

[vague ravine]

Very close to level 80, just half a bar to go. Been farming nightmare dungeons today to level up my glyphs.

Trying to see how far I can push the dungeon tier. Current highest is 32.

[rare tartan]

are you on hardcore Rhinne

[vague ravine]

God no

I'll be doing hardcore at some point for the achievmeent, but I'll be playing that as safe as possible

[rare tartan]

#1086358105278918656 message this was funny but heart breaking for them

[vague ravine]

Yeah I bet that sucked. I'd hate that.

[rare tartan]

they were killed by a after effect

[vague ravine]

I plan to get the achievement and never touch hardcore again.

Right now I'm trying to hit 100 before season 1

[atomic cosmos]

Ohhhhhh you’re implying that once unlocked and you get the rewards they always stay unlocked and you can’t redo them to get more useful rewards later

[hushed nacelle]

yep, correct

[atomic cosmos]

I didn’t even think of them that way vs just the normal “do all the quests, you can always do more dungerinos later”

[hushed nacelle]

yes, you can, but that at least helps give you a bit of variety too 😉

[hushed nacelle]

LOL I bugged out The Butcher again, this time solo in a Tier 37 nightmare dungeon

[vague ravine]

I'm about to try a tier 35 for the first time.

[hushed nacelle]

if you run into problems and want help, just shout 🙂

[vague ravine]

Thanks. Seems to be going alright so far.

[hushed nacelle]

World boss in 6 minutes

[vague ravine]

I was hoping I'd have finished this dungeon in time, but doesn't look like I will.

[hushed nacelle]

highest level here again 😄

[vague ravine]

What level are you currently?

[hushed nacelle]

hit 85 this morning

[vague ravine]

Nice

[hushed nacelle]

half way to 100!

[vague ravine]

Hah

Well, you're not in my instance. There's an 88 here.

Crazy how trivial world bosses are at this point.

[hushed nacelle]

ugh, 6 minutes to kill him

I wish I was in your instance

me, 2 72's, 1 71, 2 63s, 61, 60, 58

I basically killed it myself, everyone else was either constantly dead or rezzing

[vague ravine]

Ouch.

Ours went down in 30 seconds

[modern pecan]

That's my role atm for world boss, rezzing

[vague ravine]

I think tier 35 is my limit for now.

[ripe sorrel]

Hah! Butcher thought they could come and kill me again on the Druid. This time I killed it and had 3 potions to spare, just like I said I would do 😈

[ripe sorrel]

uh oh... I cleared out my stash of legendary items recently and only just realising now that I scrapped one of the rarest items in the game, Rage of Harrogath (Chest). Now, knowing my luck I'll never get one of those again

[silk anvil]

Rhinne, echo didn't go too well lol

[hushed nacelle]

That's an understatement

We gave up after 6 deaths, because we didn't last longer than 20 seconds each time

[vague ravine]

Ouch, sounds rough.

[silk anvil]

yeah rofl

taking another shot prob at 90+

[vague ravine]

Is she level 100? Or scaling?

[silk anvil]

100

but all her hits are 1 shots mostly, it's the dps check

[silk anvil]

kind of frustrating with just trying to farm for a drop and so rare meh

[silk anvil]

solo a 47, 0 legendaries except end reward guarantee 😐

[vague ravine]

Damn, that sucks.

35 is about my upper limit right now I think and that's dependent on modifiers.

[silk anvil]

this is actually first time ive tried soloing any of the nm's, since usually have others playing w/me

gotta say, druid is just kinda laughing them off with my build atm >.<

I think as a group, we ran a 52? tonight

i guess time for more of nothing from another helltide too

[vague ravine]

I'm just going to stick to ones that are 3-4 levels above me for the optimal XP boost and time to get through them.

[vague ravine]

I got a mount from the mystery chest.

Marsh Roan Steed

[silk anvil]

nice lol

world boss in uh

25

[vague ravine]

Avarice

[modern pecan]

I've already killed that one a few times, is it still worth me killing it? They don't really give me anything good

[vague ravine]

You should get the legendary cache, unless you've done that specific one this week.

[modern pecan]

I think I'd have already done it, I'm not sure

I guess it wouldn't hurt to go round rezzing people one more time

[silk anvil]

i still do them when around just for slim chance of uniques

[modern pecan]

I don't think I get uniques on WT3 do I?

[silk anvil]

you can yes

[modern pecan]

Oh, I'll definitely give it a go then

[vague ravine]

And dead

[silk anvil]

more penitent greaves 😐

[vague ravine]

Reins of the pale steed from a mystery chest. That's two mounts from Helltides today.

[hushed nacelle]

Got a Tier 24 nightmare sigil from tree chest drop, figured I'd do it even though I'm overleveled since I could knock it out real quick, for glyph xp

was doing an event inside when butcher showed up, and this was me to him:

https://tenor.com/view/abraxas-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-power-rohan-king-gif-14050384

Literally just kited him around while I finished the event, then finished him off 😂

[vague ravine]

Slowly getting my glyphs levelled.

[hushed nacelle]

5 at 15 or greater, my last one is now at 7

[vague ravine]

I have four at 9 and one at 8.

[vague ravine]

World boss in 21 minutes

[silk anvil]

I don't know why, but I guess 21 is the next goal after 15 for glyphs. Maybe that's cap?

[vague ravine]

Yep, that's the cap from what I've heard.

[vague ravine]

Damn, another mount. From a dungeon this time. Three mounts in one day 😄

Caldeum Steed this time.

[modern pecan]

Have you seen that if you drop your mounts from inventory they turn into tiny horses? 😄

[vague ravine]

Hah no, I hadn't seen that.

[modern pecan]

I think you can only do it when you have a mount in inventory, once you've "consumed" it you can't drop them anymore so not possible 😦

Is there a way to find side quests better? I've done a fair amount now and I've ran out and not sure where to find more

I also can't remember what ones I have and haven't done to find them on a map

[vague ravine]

https://mapgenie.io/diablo-4/maps/sanctuary

I use this.

But I skipped most side quests. They're not worth doing other than topping up areas for the renown.

[modern pecan]

Yeah that's all I need to do, last bits of renown. Probably have about 300 left in each one

Thanks for link 🙂

Oh 200 in most of them, 300 in one

Are dungeons a better way then to top off renown? Only really done like 8 tops in most areas

[vague ravine]

You should do all dungeons so that you can get all of the legendary aspects.

Or at least all of the ones obtainable from dungeons.

They're worth more points than side quests and better XP.

[modern pecan]

Ah ok thanks that's what I'll concentrate on then 🙂

[modern pecan]

I didn't even realise doing the sigil dungeons counts as doing dungeons too. Whoops.

[modern pecan]

Damn, bugged a dungeon somehow

[atomic cosmos]

That just means you died and need to wait a few seconds for the encounter to reset

[modern pecan]

I didn't die though

I restarted the dungeon and was fine second time round

It wasn't even a tiered dungeon, just a normal one

[vague ravine]

Finally had the Raiment of the Infinite chest piece drop, so my hug of death smashing snow build is more effective.

[ripe sorrel]

yay, another rage of harrogath dropped! and here I was thinking I might not have got another one with how rare sacred items apparently are

[modern pecan]

Damn your barbarian looks tough

Wouldn't want to fight you

What do the symbols mean on the armour slots in top right?

Is that transmog?

[hushed nacelle]

yep

[modern pecan]

Ah ok thanks, I haven't unlocked anything cool enough yet to try it 😄

[ripe sorrel]

I equipped exceptional transmogs on all but the helmet (no helmet for that) got most of the transmogs from salvaging gear (and also made a fair few mistakes along the way with the salvage system, lol)

[silk anvil]

wow, got the treasure goblin only mount armor drop

[hushed nacelle]

oooo! 🙂

[atomic cosmos]

no your horse is scary 😦

[ripe sorrel]

changed one ability from my whirlwind barbarian and now I can have it run almost forever (at the cost of some serious damage loss, 135%!) but the Fury cost was too high. Would kind of wonder between the two what actually deals more damage over a longer time considering one could go on almost infinitely vs a shorter but higher damaging whirlwind

[modern pecan]

I'm also using that 100% usage for 135% damage but wondered if it would be better for it to run for 3x as long for more damage

Let me know how it goes!

[ripe sorrel]

Been going great so far even been able to fight some enemies in WT4 (while being some 13 levels below). Though I am in trouble fast if the whirlwind spins end haha 😅

[modern pecan]

Yeah I find without whirlwind I am a sitting duck lol

[hushed nacelle]

Apparently Diablo 4 has an arachnophobia mode and I didn't know it! /s
Currently dealing with a graphical bug that half the spiders in this nightmare dungeon disappear when they come on screen. I can see their health bar, but not their character model... so... that's fun!

[modern pecan]

Haha, I think I'd prefer that!

[hushed nacelle]

not me, I have to mouse over them to see the health bar unless I've already hit them 😛

makes it really hard to find all the small ones leaping at me trying to poison me

[modern pecan]

Yeah that does sound annoying. I think they're just very well modelled... too well almost 😛

[hushed nacelle]

hmm, apparently warping back to town and back in may have fixed it, weird

[modern pecan]

Can do tier 16 dungeons with relative ease, but 17 is absolutely destroying us lol

[ripe sorrel]

I'm still to do any nightmare dungeons

[hushed nacelle]

it's always fun being a sorc, I literally am a glass cannon, I can tear through things, but the nightmare dungeons that I can do and are the proper level for me, enemies can 1 shot me from off screen if I'm not careful 😄

[modern pecan]

I can take a fair few hits as barbarian but poison absolutely destroys me

[hushed nacelle]

Yeah, that can do me in quickly, but the big corpse bows will 1 shot me from off screen easily

or things like the spider corpse walkers that explode into the 1 big spider and many tiny spiders, if I don't have my barrier up when the explosion happens and I'm still standing nearby, even at full health, when I'm running a tier 108 dungeon, I'm dead 😂

but, I can also at the same time jump into a group of 3 of those elites, plus 6 big spiders and 30 small ones with teleport, frost nova, and wipe them all out in 1/4 of a second

so... literal glass cannon 😂

sorry, not tier 108

tier 54, level 108 enemies

[modern pecan]

Oh wow, what level are you now then? I'm almost 63 and still struggling at tier 17 lol

[hushed nacelle]

level 92

[modern pecan]

I thought you were running druid? Or have you got multiple characters?

[hushed nacelle]

Eris is playing druid

I'm only doing the one, sorc

[modern pecan]

Oooh, sorry yep had a brain fuzz moment lol. I am probably going to try rogue for season 1 and try and put out more damage

Is there a way to see how much damage the party has done separately like in WoW using mods or something?

[hushed nacelle]

not that I'm aware of so far

[modern pecan]

Aw that's a shame. Hopefully someone makes one or they add it officially

[vague ravine]

92? Damn, you were only 85 the other day.

[modern pecan]

We tried to do the capstone dungeon for WT4 earlier, got ridiculously humbled

[hushed nacelle]

you mean to unlock WT4, or the one in WT4?

[modern pecan]

Sorry, to unlock WT4

[hushed nacelle]

oh, you want me to run you through it?

[modern pecan]

Yeah please, are you free now? 😅

[hushed nacelle]

gimme like... 10 mins to finish this nightmare 🙂

[modern pecan]

To be fair we're only 63/61/56 so not too strong lol

Thanks 😄

[modern pecan]

Just ran around after Laura. Jaw was on the flaw the whole time lol I can't wait to be that strong lol

Thanks again for the carry!

[hushed nacelle]

heheh, np! 🙂

Like I said, I love my build, teleport in and watch them go poof! 😄

[hushed nacelle]

Yeah, I've been running just a few nightmare dungeons 😄

[modern pecan]

Are you following a guide? My friend was just embarassed to show up because she's tried doing it herself and it hasn't gone so well lol

[hushed nacelle]

https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/ice-shards-sorcerer-guide

that one 🙂

[modern pecan]

Thanks! 🙂

[hushed nacelle]

np!

and tell her not to feel bad, I went through like... 5 other builds (including a few of my own) before finding that one

and I've tried another since that one, and went back to it after like... 2 hours

[modern pecan]

That will make her feel better, she's spent so much money on trying new builds and not found something she likes yet, but hadn't followed any guides because wasn't sure what was a good one 😅

[ripe sorrel]

I might give maxroll's whirlwind barbarian a go and see if things are much different to the one on icy veins site that I been using up until now. Kind of wish there was a more central place where all of Diablo builders were. Could clash minds to come up with some truly epic builds

[silk anvil]

Yeah, we've spent a bit of time doing nightmares after failing echo hard rofl

[atomic cosmos]

huh. i'll read that. I see that they aren't using fireball explosions as their enchant

oh they aren't just during pure ice either, they have a bunch of fire in there...
my only non-ice are the fireball enchant and my active lightning

[silk anvil]

Can confirm Laura is glass cannon, but she dies less than our necro xD

[atomic cosmos]

oh they went 3/3 glass... I was okay at 1/3 and i think i've been stable at 2/3 but occasionally things get iffy

wait what... they picked flame shield and ice armor? what is even happening

[hushed nacelle]

Yeah, alternate them

and I prefer the ice ult

over the flame one

[ripe sorrel]

oh my... Maxroll's whirlwind barbarian is a lot better! Completed my first nightmare dungeon and done it with such ease. Still to get an encounter with the butcher while on my Barbarian too which is odd. Must be scared of him lol. Doing far more terrifying damage and taking out stuff like bosses very quickly now

[vague ravine]

I'm currently using a Blizzard build which is pretty decent. https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/blizzard-sorcerer-guide

[silk anvil]

i kinda wanna build out the druid shield build cause it's so stupidly broken, but i know itll be patched this week prob

[vague ravine]

Damn, enraged Butcher is a giant!

https://i.redd.it/mnpf6k14po9b1.png

[modern pecan]

Still not come across the butcher yet!

[vague ravine]

Oh, you will.

[modern pecan]

I'm fine with waiting my turn though 😂

Heard nothing but pain from him

[ripe sorrel]

yeah, he is very tanky pretty much a roaming end of dungeon boss that can appear at almost any time. I actually want him to appear while on my Barbarian class so I can see the kind of damage I'm dealing vs him but obviously this is still a build far from optimized so I expect to be challenged. Though if end of dungeon bosses and how they have gone since changing builds he really won't be around long enough to be scary lol. I can't wait to see what this build could look like fully optimized if what I'm seeing now is strong

[vague ravine]

End of dungeon bosses are usually no issue for me, but it takes ages to get the Butcher down.

I stopped bothering, let him kill me, revive and carry on. It's not worth the time and effort.

[ripe sorrel]

yeah, I found that out after the first time killing him on one of my other characters. Didn't drop anything good but if his loot pool includes sacred items it may still be worth it as I'm always on the look out for more sacred drops

[hushed nacelle]

He’s actually no issue for me anymore, hasn’t been since my current build

[modern pecan]

Finally got renown to level 5 in all places now 😄

[modern pecan]

Maybe we got lucky, but we also retried the capstone dungeon to unlock WT4 for my third. We used up all 12 revives before and couldn't defeat the boss. Tonight we did it with 0 deaths at all

[hushed nacelle]

nice!

[ripe sorrel]

I'm either making a big mistake or dsoing things right but I no longer pick up non sacred rare loot. Will still pick up non sacred legendaries and uniques though and the same will apply, only ancestral rare drops once I start farming in world tier 4 in about 8 levels (level 62 right now)

[hushed nacelle]

You should pick them up and sell them 🙂

you'll need the money

I go from 70 million gold down to nothing regularly

all on enchantment rerolls for a single item

[wind dragon]

Hey ya’ll

Hey @hushed nacelle would you mind helping a brand new Diablo player sometime

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[vague ravine]

If you just explain what you need help with specifically, people will help if they can.

Or point you to a site to get the info/guides.

[hushed nacelle]

What Rhinne said, explain what it is you need help with. Is it info? Guides? Builds? Runs through a capstone dungeon? Anyone in this channel should be able to help with any of that.

[modern pecan]

Thanks for reminder! I'll claim now

[silk anvil]

Live stream on, immortal for first few minutes though

[modern pecan]

Dang, I wish they had closed captions even for live stream... Still can't hear anything

[vague ravine]

Predicting that Season 1 starts on July 28th, because that's the date we go away.

[atomic cosmos]

Ha glad I didn’t spend money on that one the first week!

[silk anvil]

I bet they nerf druid barrier build today hah

Season 1 July 20

[modern pecan]

Hopefully they are able to fix this painful rubberbanding issue

[vague ravine]

I bet we see World Tier 5 announced today too.

[silk anvil]

I don't think they'll do wt5 yet, unless it's with season tbh

[vague ravine]

Thank god they didn't screw up the renown in the seasons

[silk anvil]

I want to know when patch info will be up today 😐

[vague ravine]

The full patch notes for the update on the 18th?

[silk anvil]

No, there's a patch today

[vague ravine]

So, two weeks to get 15 and a half levels.

[vague ravine]

So the battle pass gives you 666 platinum. Why can't they round it up? You can't do anything with 6 platinum.

[atomic cosmos]

No. It is perfect the way it is.

[vague ravine]

https://twitter.com/Diablo/status/1677052304455868423

Diablo (@Diablo)

Gear up Wanderer.

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[atomic cosmos]

Last night I hit 50 and unlocked the other skill tree mini game looking thing. I have read nothing about it but there are many options and the only instruction was “the gold ones are magic” lol

[hushed nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/your-happy-workplace-wendy-conrad-its-magic-magic-magical-gif-18034212

[modern pecan]

I need to get 34 levels in 2 weeks ... Probably not going to happen 😅

[hushed nacelle]

I didn't catch the live stream, why do you need to hit level 100 before season 1?

[modern pecan]

I don't need to, just a goal of mine 😅

If I start a new character and invest in them, I'll probably not go back to my barbarian

[hushed nacelle]

ah, gotcha. You and Rhinne both just indicated it, so was curious 🙂

[vague ravine]

To get the achievement for 100 before I start focusing on the season grind.

[modern pecan]

First time I've run into the Butcher (finally!) and I got him quite easily but he was a little tanky
(didn't drop anything fun)

World tier 4 too but no sigil

[vague ravine]

His loot table sucks

[modern pecan]

Yeah seems it which is a shame

[vague ravine]

Gonna try and grind a bunch of levels this weekend.

I need to have another crack at a hardcore character at some point as well for that achievement. It didn't go well last time - I died at level 7 to a cellar puzzle trap I'd never seen before. 😄

[modern pecan]

I've almost gone up two levels this morning, but don't think I'm going to make 100. Not even at 75 yet

[vague ravine]

I can't play during the day because I can't pause it, so have to wait for the evenings. But then I'm running through stuff with Lucy who is lower level, so can't do the higher level nightmare dungeons. We're mostly running regular dungeons (because I won't get anything from her level nightmares) for the whisper rewards so then she can get the 10 caches of chaos achievement.

Regular dungeons at least give me some XP.

[modern pecan]

I usually can't play during the day because I'm in the office but Fridays we WFH and thankfully today is really quiet.

I'm only doing regular dungeons on Tier 4 atm as I'm only level 67, but I'll start experimenting with low level sigils soon.

[vague ravine]

https://idleanimation.com/diablo4nm

Use this to figure out which tier to run.

So for 67 the ideal tier to run is 16.

[modern pecan]

Is that WT4?

[vague ravine]

It doesn't matter which WT

Actually, it does, sorry. 20 and under is WT3 only.

21 and above can only be done in WT4.

[modern pecan]

Ah cool ok thanks! So do you think it's morth worth doing tier 16/17 at WT3 than it is running normal dungeons in WT4?

[vague ravine]

You get a 25% XP boost if you kill enemies that are 3 levels above you. You'll get a little more if you kill anything more than 4 levels above you, but there's no big boost like that 25%. So generally it's not worth the extra time and effort killing higher level mobs and potentially dying compared to a quicker run through a +3 dungeon.

[modern pecan]

Ah ok, at the moment normal dungeons they are at 73 at WT4 so might be better to run WT3 at tier 16

[vague ravine]

Of course, if you're able to sail through tier 21+ without any trouble or long kill times, you may as well do it. But generally for the best XP/time return you want to aim for +3.

[modern pecan]

Ah that's good to know thanks I'll start doing some tier 16 dungeons

[silk anvil]

Just be aware that level 92 is halfway point to 100

[hushed nacelle]

I think it was 85 actually

[modern pecan]

Either way, I'm ages away. I'm only just about to ding 69

I'll probably call it there for the day too, I went up 3 levels

[silk anvil]

dang, apparently barbarian had insane drop rates for harlequin crests last night in helltide

[atomic cosmos]

i assume they're going to let people keep the "not at all rare uber rares" that accidentally dropped, becuase pulling them back would be a PR disaster

[silk anvil]

who knows tbh

i wish could find info on regular helltide chests resetting

[atomic cosmos]

also whoever "typed 0.1 instead of 0.00000000001" in the update table is gonna get spanked

[ripe sorrel]

really think the events need spaced out some. World boss, helltides and legion events seem to happen too close to each other

[silk anvil]

most people want world bosses more often than the ~6 hrs

[silk anvil]

world boss 20 mins

[silk anvil]

Found out why the rum is always gone

[atomic cosmos]

I understand why the rum is always gone but… the bone dust too??

[modern pecan]

I've just realised I've got a helmet and chest armour with the same aspect. Do they stack or is it only one that is active at a time? If so I'll change one

[modern pecan]

Wow, hit level 70 and xp progression has slowed dramatically already 😬

[vague ravine]

Yep. Once you hit 70 it gets really slow.

[silk anvil]

They don't stack

[modern pecan]

Thanks thought so. I've managed to extract some aspects I've been looking for for a while so fortunately had bits to swap out

Hit level 71 but going to call it there for a day as got to go out later. Levelling is definitely slowing down though. The tier website Rhinne sent has helped a lot though

[vague ravine]

I've not started on Diablo yet today. Had some stuff to do this morning and got a delivery due any time now, so waiting for that then will get started on the grind.

[modern pecan]

I've got a BBQ at a friend's so definitely so chance of getting on later either 😅 But in the last couple of days I've gone from 65 to 71 so pretty happy with that. Once I hit 75 I'll probably try and look at some end game builds and see what I can do better

[ripe sorrel]

that's some fast levelling. I'm at level 64. Taking my time though, absolutely no rush (or I'll burn myself out of the game to fast, already feels like it is creeping in)

[kindred rain]

I'm at level 72 now. It's so slow lol

[hushed nacelle]

And it gets sllooooowwwweeerrrrr 😂

[ripe sorrel]

when some here said levels 1-85 was half the way 86-100 must be hell (pun intended) to go through 😄

[hushed nacelle]

I said that 😉

and yes, they definitely get much slower

[ripe sorrel]

kind of annoyed hearing that unique drops were buffed (unintentionally) for a while recently and that helltides were dropping them crazy seemingly 😦

[hushed nacelle]

yeah, just for a few hours I think

[modern pecan]

Had that weird bug that happened before with the spiders for someone, but this time for me it's the clerics. Completely invisible

[rare tartan]

I really loving this game, I not doing very well haa but i haven't had so much fun in a game for a long time.

[modern pecan]

Yeah same, I'm winging it all but having fun doing it. Just hit level 75 now

[rare tartan]

nice, i'm only level 31

[modern pecan]

Although mine keeps crashing on PC. Getting quite annoyed with it

[ripe sorrel]

had my first crash on Diablo 4 on my PC earlier today. My system rarely has crashes so I hope it was just some rare instance and nothing more to it but that would be really annoying for a system to keep crashing on one game 😦

[modern pecan]

Mine happens because I alt+tab out a lot but still annoying

[graceful nymph]

Took this home from work. New marketing went up.

[rare tartan]

My series x as turned off twice when teleporting

[silk anvil]

almost 95, might pass laura xD

[hushed nacelle]

I'm 96

[silk anvil]

pfft

[silk anvil]

trying to farm for one unique, not even one of uber uniques, is depressing tbh

[ripe sorrel]

I've had 3 uniques drop (got rid of 2 that I really regret doing lol) my only concern really is what's the point in working on anything end game from 50+ when levelling doesn't stop until 100. Won't item stats eventually improve with these levels up until hitting that level 100 ceiling to which then one can throw the extra effort into maximizing a build with everything they need

[silk anvil]

so it will depend upon what unique it is. some classes have uniques that enable the much stronger builds. in those cases, even if you have a lower item power it's worth it purely for that build

[ripe sorrel]

yeah, going by the guides I've been following for the whirlwind barbarian there are quite a few best in slot uniques for that build and obviously I'll keep them around as long as I can but I feel I could also be doing with that additional DPS or armor better gear may eventually give while then hoping a higher level version of a unique I'm after drops later on to then swap that out again

[silk anvil]

I'll use druid for example. I've got a decent build and all, but I can't actually run the by far better builds because I am lacking a single piece of gear that makes it all work together

[ripe sorrel]

heh, one piece of gear to put a build altogether? I gotta love those builds 😱 and it happens that one piece of gear is probably the rarest item in the game lol byw what's the difference between uniques and uber uniques? I thought unique was unique

[silk anvil]

There's 6 uber uniques in the game. Ones that are so low of a drop rate that you're looking at like, 1 in 100,000 drop rate or so. Where the other uniques are say 1 in 100. Not the actual rates but get the idea

[ripe sorrel]

oh yeah, I get it now. Just wasn't aware at first what they were. Thought it was season 1 talk or devs silently added some more uniques but the drop rates of them really are poor. Not helped any by the short time they were buffed and people were seemingly pulling them out of helltide chests like rabbits out of a hat lol

[silk anvil]

With my current build, I'll probably cap out around tier mid 70s on doing nightmare dungeons. If I had the one single unique, it would let me do tier 100 😐

[ripe sorrel]

I'm guessing these unique drops aren't tradable but if they are I could look out for it dropping for me somehow if you'd like?

[silk anvil]

nope they aren't!

[ripe sorrel]

oh my, that makes thing even worse

according to Maxroll I've got the grandfather (2H sword), harlequin crest (helm) and gohr's devastating grips (gloves) all to find to really make this build work to its fullest with another two uniques that appear to be more optional (rage of harrogath chest and temerity pants)

[atomic cosmos]

And nothing stops blizzard from adding new gear in a patch, so it will be an endless chase Zero

[ripe sorrel]

yeah, that scares me lol. Wonder how long before we see gear set rarity loot again further throwing builds to the wolves 😄 Still love games like this but there are times (like when hunting for specific loot) where it can become very tiring after a while 😦

[vague ravine]

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/world-first-tier-100-hardcore-nightmare-dungeon-conquered-diablo-4-333916

[modern pecan]

Wait, can you not get back imprinted aspects if they're from your inventory?

I had a really good one, but found better gear I wanted to put it on. But looks like I'll just lose it

[silk anvil]

Nope

[modern pecan]

So I just have to hope that that exact aspect at a really good rate drops again?

Because I already spent about 20 levels searching for it in the first place 😅

[silk anvil]

Yeah

Depending on the aspect, you can "target" it easier

https://diablo4.life/tools/gambling

[modern pecan]

Ah that's a shame. That's really gutting to hear as it took me ages to find it and it fortunately dropped at a good rate

Thank you

The odds are not great

and it means I also have to do it on a necromancer too? I don't know how you target something else

It's a shame that you can't even imprint the aspect at the lowest level just so you have something

It makes me not want to put any new armour on new even if it's got better stats because I'll lose the aspects which make the build work

[silk anvil]

You can for the ones you get from the dungeons that add to your codex, those will add at the lowest roll

[modern pecan]

No this one unfortunately wasn't from a dungeon. This was from a dropped loot I extracted it from

[silk anvil]

I meant make sure it's not available as an aspect from a dungeon completion as well

[modern pecan]

Oh sorry - yeah unfortunately it isn't. Was one I had to just wait and find

I've put it in my stash and hopefully I don't spend another 20 levels finding it again 😅

[hushed nacelle]

I thought all of them were available from a dungeon?

[modern pecan]

All of them? I couldn't find it

[hushed nacelle]

well with the exception of uniques

but I didn't think you could extract from uniques

[vague ravine]

No, there are some that are on gear only.

[hushed nacelle]

fair enough 🙂

I usually keep a fair amount of gear in my stash to salvage later for the aspect so I don't often run into the issue 🙂

[modern pecan]

Can you take off the imprint if you go for a codex one? Is it just the aspects from inventory you can't remove or both?

Trying to see whether it's worth putting something else on temporarily then taking it off later

Sorry not take it off, I mean overwrite

[vague ravine]

Yes, you can overwrite.

[modern pecan]

Ah ok thanks I'll just do that then for now

[vague ravine]

But you can't extract an imprint, only the power that was on the gear piece originally.

[modern pecan]

Yeah sorry I got the wordings mixed up. I want to put something on it for now and then overwrite later if I find a better version. I found a low version of it again fortunately so that's something

[vague ravine]

I'm just about to hit lvl 89

Day off work tomorrow too, so I'm going to try and make some more progress towards 100

[silk anvil]

If I get around to changing build around today I might be able to help by running through high nm's quick

[modern pecan]

I'll probably hit level 77 tonight, maybe 78 if I hurry up a bit

[rare tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/good-to-know-safety-glasses-thats-nice-thank-you-for-that-information-good-to-hear-gif-14464311

[modern pecan]

Yeah only got to 77. Spent too much time messing around 😅 I'll try some more tomorrow

[ripe sorrel]

I'm giving into what I'd do before. Leaving the specific gearing for later and focusing on if DPS or armor on gear is higher than equipped then replace (only exception to this being any unique drops I get) and will return to more specific gearing at level 100. Just doing my head in scrapping so much loot for that one item per gear slot with the rolls I'm after, far too many variables right now and if I limit it down to the two mentioned it makes things so much simpler. Though I do know full well it probably won't do my build any good and will probably harm it

[hushed nacelle]

I did that only until about level 40/45, beyond that, you're actually likely hampering yourself

[atomic cosmos]

Okay there I finally unlocked horsies so I’m going to bed lol. Y’all are like 2 years ahead of me

[vague ravine]

Aiming for 90 this morning, then I can get the achievement for the last potion upgrade, then I've got just three achievements left to do (50 in hardcore, 100 in softcore and Uber Lilith)

[modern pecan]

Nice, I am on PC so not sure what 'achievements' I have left, but that's pretty good. I will probably get to 90 by the end of the weekend I reckon.

[modern pecan]

Decided I'm going to long off whirlwind and try a HotA build for my barbarian. Not sure if it'll be worth it but would be good fun

[modern pecan]

I regret this

[silk anvil]

I just burned 100m rerolling stuff 😐

[vague ravine]

Damn, I don't even have that much gold yet.

I'm at around 70m

[silk anvil]

this build is so wrong oml

not completely optimal though, but still lols

[vague ravine]

I hit 91 last night, so I'm going to try and push for 100 by the end of the week. I'll have time after work, plus while Lucy is on a 12 hour shift on Saturday to grind through NDs

[silk anvil]

just did a 59 solo w/o taking any damage at all

[modern pecan]

I swapped builds and completely messed up. I'm not not strong enough for anything so I'm just going to put it down as a learning experience and wait for season 1 😅

[ripe sorrel]

I somewhat regret my choice in switching out gear I had that was pretty well optimized for my build for focusing more on sacred/ancestral drops with better DPS or armor stats but it has made my barbarian a fair bit stronger. I've still added Codex of power imprints were I can to get a bit closer to a somewhat optimal build but yeah, I think I'll continue with this and see where it takes me. Really need a good Ancestral 2H sword to drop. The Grandfather would be grand but I doubt that'll happen any time soon lol

oh, also now farming WT4 solo at level 67. Have done since level 65 and at times its been a struggle but those ancestral drops are helping I even cleared out previous legendary and sacred aspects for only ancestral ones (as I'd think they provide the best stats) so makes sense imo

[silk anvil]

feel free to join my group atm, any of ya, if want to get free t60 completion/loot/xp

[modern pecan]

You on now? I am WFH today so I can join for a bit

[silk anvil]

yup

[vague ravine]

I'm working at the moment, so would only be able to sit at the entrance and not join in.

[modern pecan]

Ooh ok thanks I'll start up my pc now

[silk anvil]

dont have to rhinne lol

[vague ravine]

Just making sure you didn't mind a passive group member. 😄

[modern pecan]

I don't know if I'll be a hindrance as only level 77

[vague ravine]

One sec and I'll load it up.

[modern pecan]

Same. What is one of your battle net IDs please? I'll add you then join

[vague ravine]

If you don't mind me sitting at the entrace, then zipping to the end for the glyph boost, I'll happily jump in.

[silk anvil]

this is level 114's, not expecting help tbh 😛 just an offer of free stuff

[vague ravine]

I'm not actually sure what my full battle.net ID is to be honest.

[silk anvil]

youre on my friends list already

[modern pecan]

I don't have either unfortunately 😦

I can send mine. Albzi#2412

[vague ravine]

Oh, got mine. It's Rhinne#2314

[silk anvil]

oh albzi, add me kanarya#1339 for bnet

[modern pecan]

Thanks 🙂

[silk anvil]

oh huh, a maint today

[vague ravine]

Oh, it won't let me accept your invite Albzi

Ah, seems you're on my friend list, but the invite stayed as pending to be accepted.

I'm in the dungeon.

[modern pecan]

Thanks both 🙂

[vague ravine]

Porting to the end now

[modern pecan]

Do you have to go to town then use a portal?

[vague ravine]

I went to town, then used the portal to jump to Eris

Got five glyphs at 15 now, just one more to go.

[silk anvil]

give me a few to sell then ill pop another higher

[vague ravine]

Once I have my last glyph at 15 I'm gonna need to reset my entire paragon build to adjust things. 😫

6 boards. So tedious to do.

[silk anvil]

yeah, i did that tonight

lets see how bad this goes

this may not happen until i do finish build lol

sec, gonna come back in w/low hp

[vague ravine]

Does that actually affect the dungeon?

[ripe sorrel]

can I join in? Just going to get a cup of tea and brb

[silk anvil]

no, but the idea of this build is to be at 35% hp

sure, if im able to do this one

because i have an extra 80% damage reduction when injured

[vague ravine]

Oh, interesting.

[silk anvil]

ugh hit potion

[modern pecan]

ty 🙂

[vague ravine]

So do players not get passive XP any more?

[silk anvil]

i thought you did?

[vague ravine]

Maybe it's just moving too slow to notice any progression on the bar.

[modern pecan]

No I'm not getting any either I just realised

[vague ravine]

I got end of dungeon XP from the last one though, but not sure if my XP bar is moving.

[modern pecan]

Oh I am sorry - just slowly

[vague ravine]

I put something over the XP bar where it's currently up to, so I'll know if it moves now 😄

[modern pecan]

That's not a bad idea lol. The classic download/install checker method

[silk anvil]

ugh, well this ones not gonna happen

im gonna drop and do another 60

[vague ravine]

Okay

[silk anvil]

or 59 since apparently no good 60s atm and broke lols

[vague ravine]

Still way over what I'm doing. I've only been doing 40s at most.

[modern pecan]

I sometimes struggle with tier 26 😅

[vague ravine]

Okay, seeing the XP bar move now.

This is a welcome distraction from what I have to do in work right now. Copying email addresses from a list, pasting them into a database to find the user ID, copying the user ID back to the user list. Then I have to use those to bulk remove users from their account. One by one, with a list of almost 150 people. 😫

[modern pecan]

Ouch, that doesn't sound too fun

[vague ravine]

It sucks, but some kinds you have to kindly do the needful. 😒

[modern pecan]

Kindly doing the needful is a large portion of my job unfortunately.

I was called out last night around 2am - 4am just to monitor some traffic incase something went bad... Not too happy about that one

[vague ravine]

Ouch

[modern pecan]

So this is nice that I got to WFH today because of that

[vague ravine]

Nice, got two levels on my glyph from that. Although it was a low one at 6.

[silk anvil]

port to town then teleport to me

[vague ravine]

I'm all set.

[silk anvil]

ill be upset if they nerf this build today after all time/gold i spent lol

[vague ravine]

Oh, there's another patch due today?

[modern pecan]

I thought next one was 18th

[modern pecan]

I don't have that in my launcher interestingly

[silk anvil]

the little yellow triangle thingy

[modern pecan]

I don't have one

[silk anvil]

huh, maybe it's not diablo specific then hopefully

ill do one more then i need to sleep

[modern pecan]

No worries 🙂 Thanks again

[vague ravine]

Appreciate the help

I'll use this time to reset my paragon board 😄

Thanks again for that Eris, super helpful.

[silk anvil]

glad to be of some use xD

[ripe sorrel]

Thanks!

[vague ravine]

I got about a quarter of a level from that, plus four glyph ranks.

[ripe sorrel]

ooh shiny!

[silk anvil]

Not most efficient xp but was wanting to try build and get glyph xp

[vague ravine]

It was definitely useful for the glyph ranks as I really needed to get those done.

When playing with Lucy we tend to do regular dungeons, because her NDs are too low for me and mine are too high for her, so my glyphs were way under level.

[silk anvil]

Not a sword but still good 😛

[ripe sorrel]

True but was surprised to see a drop like that. (Got it from the stash noticed it was shining/alerting me and was pretty much like that emote I posted above, lol). Shame the whirlwind barb uses 2H sword or I’d be putting it right to use 😦

[modern pecan]

World boss is in 5 mins

[silk anvil]

Druid: 5 billion hit
Barbarian: hold my beer 32 undecillion hit

[ripe sorrel]

biggest hit I think I've seen with my Barbarian is a 30k critical but that probably isn't a lot. I feel I should be doing even more damage, though maybe I'm wrong. Still killing stuff pretty fast

[silk anvil]

I don't know the scaling for barb really, but I think most classes are around mid 80s at least for when they really take off just cause of the paragon points available

[modern pecan]

I managed to hit a couple of 700k hits with Barbarian with HotA build

[atomic cosmos]

I’m still upset about the 32 uncillion hit. It is like crazy Paper Clip game or Candy Bag numbers at that point!

[modern pecan]

It seems like real luck though. I mostly don't hit crits and even if I do it's like 100k. They need to be vulnerable and all sorts to hit the crazier numbers

[vague ravine]

https://www.pcgamer.com/diablo-4-players-are-doing-literally-billions-of-points-of-damage-in-single-shots-with-bonkers-shred-druid-builds/

[ripe sorrel]

can royal gems and skulls drop as loot or are they craft only? I'm probably going to go broke converting all the gems and skulls I have to royal 😄

[hushed nacelle]

craft only

I wouldn't bother converting all of them

I think I did about 20 of each and called it good

[hushed nacelle]

Level 100!

[atomic cosmos]

nice grats

[ripe sorrel]

congrats!

[vague ravine]

Nice, congrats

I was hoping to hit 100 by the end of this week, but not going to happen. I only hit 93 last night.

[silk anvil]

i really hope they fixed stuff spawning under the world in patch. really lame when blocked from completing event or dungeon due to that

[vague ravine]

Oh, is that why I never got the end of ND glyph upgraded last night?

I've also had a couple of times where an objective has been missing in an ND.

[silk anvil]

could be

[vague ravine]

I'm running some regular dungeons right now. I want to try and get as close to 100 as possible by the end of the weekend, but can't do NDs while working. It's less XP but it's no big deal if I die in a regular dungeon if I need to stop and do something for work.

[silk anvil]

also, 80m sunk so far into boots trying to reroll for one specific affix...and a few thousand obols into trying to gamble for a specific aspect that haven't even seen once

[vague ravine]

Damn, that's rough

[silk anvil]

and just thinking that have to do it all over again in a week

[vague ravine]

That's why I'm not doing it all now.

[silk anvil]

at this point i just want to get 100 and lilith down

[vague ravine]

Yep, same. Then I have to deal with the hassle of 50 in hardcore

I was hoping to have all achievements before season 1, but levelling took longer than expected.

[modern pecan]

I'm going to call it at level 80 (half a level to go) and then wait for season 1 and try a new class. I'm not doing achievements so not too fussed

[ripe sorrel]

I'm going all the way to level 100 (or going to try to anyway) not sure how much I'll focus on seasons content. Usually creates problems for me that I got to 100% every season and I gotta stop with that idea

[vague ravine]

I have the first battle pass already included with the version I bought, so I'll be doing that one. But will see how it goes for future ones.

I've played it so much to get the achievements done so far and hit level cap before the season starts. Then starting again for the season and grinding through that. I may be burned out on it by the end of the first season and need a break.

[silk anvil]

i dont even know my playtime so far

[vague ravine]

I've played a bit on PC too, but not a huge amount.

[modern pecan]

That's why I'm taking a break for a week now. I don't want to burn out at the start of season 1

Hold on, you can find your overall playtime online I think

https://d4armory.io/

[ripe sorrel]

kind of ties into the subject in another channel but I wonder when Diablo 4 will add support for DirectStorage and ray tracing, not really that interested in the latter as it kills performance when enabled but DirectStorage should be big for a game like this!

[modern pecan]

Nowhere near the 300 hours you've done 🫨

[vague ravine]

Considering Blizzard have been losing tons of staff and they're crossing off features and content off the list as more and more people leave, I wouldn't get your hopes up on those things.

[modern pecan]

My PC still acts super weird when playing diablo. It lags and stutters and sometimes will crash. I hope they fix those first before adding new features

[vague ravine]

Yep, one of the reasons I've not done more with hardcore is the random lag spikes and rubber banding.

[modern pecan]

Is it the same on console?

[vague ravine]

Yep

[silk anvil]

theyve said direct storage is coming

[vague ravine]

Although my internet is not the best, we don't see this level of rubber banding and spikes in other games and I've seen a bunch of other reports about it.

[modern pecan]

No this game is especially bad unfortunately. My FPS will drop and then the rubber banding begins.

I'm watching videos on direct storage because no idea what that means for a game

[ripe sorrel]

it's PC's equivalent to the tech that allows games on PS5 and Series X/S to load really fast

[modern pecan]

Thanks 🙂 Just seen it allows things to go direct to GPU to unpack making things faster etc etc. Interesting stuff so I'm glad it's coming

[silk anvil]

You got me beat on playtime rhinne

[modern pecan]

Woah that is a lot of gold collected

[ripe sorrel]

I tried using D4Armory and it doesn't seem to work for me so no stats 😦

[modern pecan]

I gave up trying to sign in with it and just put in my battle.net username

[silk anvil]

Run nightmares with gold find affixes

I wish it counted total gold obtained, I'd be interested how much I've burned

[vague ravine]

It wouldn't sign in for me either and put me in a never-ending queue to pull stats from my ID

[modern pecan]

Hit level 80. Now I'm just going to chill, maybe help some lower level friends do some bits but not going to push for 100

[vague ravine]

6 hours of gaming time available. Time to see what XP I can get in that time.

[vague ravine]

Feel like I've made barely any progress today.

Never seeing any decent gear drops and dying more often now. No way I can push NDs beyond +3 as those are a slog to get through sometimes.

[modern pecan]

Yeah I am the same. I'm happy to call it there until next season but I wasn't going for the achievements. Was thinking about starting a hardcore character though and taking it slow

[vague ravine]

For the sake of ease and speed efficiency I was running NDs that were either at my level (because I had a bunch of sigils) or +1/2 higher.

I figured it's probably more efficient if I just run regular dungeons now that have the whisper bonus. I can get through those fast, get the XP I would from a same level ND and then the small whisper bonus after doing two.

My glyphs are all at 15+ any way.

[ripe sorrel]

think I've already got to a point where item power can't increase much further on a lot of the gear I currently have equipped. Stat improvements on weapon DPS and armor are also drying up too and where possible all my gear is now Ancestral legendary (with the only exception being rage of harrogath sacred unique that is a best in slot item)

[silk anvil]

Don't give up on looking at sacreds justbecause they aren't ancestral

[hushed nacelle]

Also, all that gear still being rare and not legendary, it's yellow (not orange, because you don't have an aspect on it), and they aren't upgraded at all. You can easily get a boost by upgrading them all to at least level 3 which is cheap, and you should have some aspects on most of the gear, even if just base low level ones 🙂

[silk anvil]

anything yellow or higher at item power 700+ for gloves/boots/rings/amulet is viable tbh

granted, this can all change tuesday as well

[ripe sorrel]

only decided to upgrade the chest piece and 2H slashing weapon as that was recommended to do immediately and yeah, I'm working on collecting ancestral aspects. One of each if I can so that I can eventually add them to my gear to then max it out but I hadn't planned on doing anything like that until reaching level 100 (which as you can see at level 71 I have a very long way to go) but I could still add some of the aspects from the book where recommended to when following the whirlwind barb guide. May just lack a few aspects that are drop only for a while. Think the highest item power equip I have is currently 819 and that is not upgraded

[modern pecan]

I've been upgrading my stuff and equipping aspects no matter what. It's not exactly expensive to do and gives you a good boost as Laura said

My attack power and armor go up too because of some of my abilities and aspects. Sometimes attack power gets closer to 9k and armour goes up to almost 10k

Need to upgrade a last few things but means doing helltides

[modern pecan]

Why do I feel like I do so littel damage then 😦 I definitely need more life though not sure why mine is so low. Maybe armor makes up for it

[ripe sorrel]

are my stats about to shoot up like that? wow!

[modern pecan]

To be fair some of my items I got lucky with.
Got +183 strength on that 81 all stats too

They're just my weapons, got similar things on my armor too

Like this isn't the best for example, but it gives me good stats and useful for slashing weapons

That's my chest

My gloves give me this

It might even be detrimental to my build because I haven't focused specific things

[ripe sorrel]

I purely focused on the DPS and armor stats with the rest being purely random. Do eventually plan to switch back to focusing on specific stats but that stuff was doing my head in. Gear management was becoming very annoying

[modern pecan]

Yeah I'm really not very good at gear management so I just kind of went for "all stats" 😅 Covered most of it I thought

[ripe sorrel]

afaik the whirlwind barb wants all strength on the gear (where possible but isn't a major priority) so you are definitely following the build guide pretty well

[modern pecan]

I changed to HotA build not too long ago just to see what it was like. I regret it

[ripe sorrel]

(from maxroll)

[modern pecan]

My issue is the HotA needs crit chance and crit damage and I haven't built that. So when I do a good hit it does damage, but most of the time it's a dissapointment

[ripe sorrel]

HotA also relies on one very key aspect iirc where it can target multiple enemies. Without it might as well forget a HotA build I think

[modern pecan]

Yeah I have all the aspects at least, just not the best weapons or attributes

[ripe sorrel]

kind of tempted to start a new character but idk what to pick

[vague ravine]

I really want to get to 100 before the new season.

Doubt it will happen now though

[ripe sorrel]

😦 btw why the rush before season 1? I hope characters aren't reset or deleted D:

[vague ravine]

They're not reset or deleted, but seasonal characters are a fresh start with a new character.

Or characters, if you want to play different classes.

So I want to hit 100 on this one before I am playing a new one.

[ripe sorrel]

ah, I see

[modern pecan]

I'm not going to bother just yet personally. I'm going to wait a few season and see what classes I like the most then push to 100 on that

Are mounts shared across characters even those in the new season?

I managed to get this one and I'd like to use it for season 1 😅

[vague ravine]

Yep, they're shared. You also get them from level 1.

[modern pecan]

Perfect, thanks. I need to read up on the new season but was going to wait for 18th for patch notes first

[silk anvil]

BTW, attack power doesn't truly reflect your damage potential. It's a dumb stat

[modern pecan]

Yeah I could kind of guess. My damage isn't that great compared to what friends are hitting even though I have 2/3k more than them 😦

[silk anvil]

You're focusing more on random stats than affix bonuses like crit, crit damage, vulnerable dmg, etc

That's where your damage is suffering

[modern pecan]

Yeah, I've messed up because I didn't really know what I was doing. That's why I'm just going to wait it out until S1 and then start fresh with a new character and sort of being a little wiser to what I need to do for a build

As in raw stats don't necessarily mean anything without the other stats

[vague ravine]

Day off work today, so I need to do a major XP grind to try and get to 100 as I can't play during the day on work days.

[ripe sorrel]

another unique drop!

[ripe sorrel]

got two unique drops out of one regular dungeon (that from the image above and an ancestral rage of harrogath, just what I needed!). That was very nice of RNG. Now I'll probably get no more

[vague ravine]

I get quite a few unique drops. They're just all useless for me.

[vague ravine]

There's one unique that I want to see drop - Raiment of the Infinite.

I have one currently, but it's a level 82 and I'm almost 96, so I need an upgraded version.

I get all the other uniques which are no use to me, but not this one.

[ripe sorrel]

I'd really like the grandfather 2H sword unique to drop but idk if it has dropped for anyone else yet. I guess that must be one of the uber uniques that players probably have better odds at winning the lottery with than getting one of those?

[vague ravine]

It has dropped for someone.

https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/news/ultra-rare-unique-the-grandfather-has-dropped/

[vague ravine]

Woo, got my first level maxed out level 21 glyph

[silk anvil]

I wanna get Uber Lilith down before season, and probably before patch tomorrow but idk if it's gonna happen

[vague ravine]

Yeah, I'd have liked to do that.

Let's go kick her butt 😄

[silk anvil]

It'll probably end up being on seasonal since patch Tuesday will probably change things so much with build and won't have resources to change all around

[vague ravine]

I find it quite ridiculous that they send you to her at 95

[silk anvil]

I don't know what triggers the quest exactly. I've had it since uh, 70s

[vague ravine]

Oh, I got it at 95

Maybe some kind of gear or stat threshold?

[silk anvil]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ripe sorrel]

pretty sure I've had the uber lilith thing pop up since running world tier 4 at level 66 but if you mean as in a quest marker I don't have that

[vague ravine]

I don't think I'll manage 100 in time. 😦

[silk anvil]

You can do it

[ripe sorrel]

you got this, Rhinne!

[vague ravine]

Two uniques from one run. One of which is far more useless than anything I've had so far.

[ripe sorrel]

I remember seeing another one of those posted in here before and yeah, definitely seems useless unless you happen to be making some build suited to thorns damage which would just be strange and those stats lost... I'd keep it for it being unique if it somehow drops for me but otherwise I'd trash it lol

[modern pecan]

I had her as a quest at level 73. Tried taking her on not realising what was to come

[vague ravine]

https://preview.redd.it/qduo3jr1ahcb1.jpg?auto=webp&s=71df538b9b5300fed7626f07cf28632227bf03db

[silk anvil]

Patch notes up https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23964909/diablo-iv-patch-notes

[vague ravine]

12.12GB update on Series X

[vague ravine]

Developer’s Note: We have observed that the experience bonus rewarded for killing higher level monsters escalates too fast when compared to the relative challenge involved. We still want to reward players for taking on this challenge by encouraging them to participate in powerleveling together instead of one player killing enemies while another member of their Party waits at the dungeon’s entrance.

Who would do such a thing? 👀

Ugh. The Tortured Gift of Mysteries chest has had its cost increased to 250 Aberrant Cinders from 175.

[silk anvil]

Jfc these nerfs

[modern pecan]

Didn't see anything about fixing all the crashes that happen unfortunately 😦

[silk anvil]

They said that there was supposed to be some fixes within this patch, but yeah I didn't see anything called out there

[modern pecan]

This is nice though

There is no longer a limit to how many materials you can refine into higher materials at once.

Overall though I think the patch notes aren't too bad

[silk anvil]

They lowered xp gain by quite a bit, and offensive/defensive stats

[vague ravine]

Time to see how broken my Sorc is.

I'm gutted that the season doesn't go live until 6pm here too.

[silk anvil]

I know they've said they're looking at fixing resistance to actually work at a later point, but hell I didn't expect them to nerf armor stat so hard

[vague ravine]

Alright, it's not too bad so far. Sucks they nerfed XP though while I'm on the last bit of the grind to 100.

[silk anvil]

Oh, can login already? nice

[vague ravine]

Yep, there was no downtime. Just a three hour maintenance window (lasting another two hours) where you may experience disconnects/lag.

So a normal day.

[modern pecan]

I probably will wait until S1 unless a friend needs me to jump on (other than logging in to set my "main" character"). Looking forward to starting a new class, probably going to pick a Rogue

[vague ravine]

Oh, I got four rewards for finishing an ND. Two legendary and two rare.

[silk anvil]

Yeah, they increased that

[vague ravine]

All crap, but at least it's more crap to sell.

[modern pecan]

Yeah not always 4 though.

Nightmare Dungeons now have a 50% chance to drop a 2nd Legendary item upon completion.
Nightmare Dungeons now give 3 rare items upon completion, up from 1.

[vague ravine]

Ah, I missed that part of the notes.

[modern pecan]

They were tucked right in the middle of the actual interesting bits for nerfs etc 😛

[vague ravine]

I ran a tier 48 ND. Kept it safe rather than pushing too much while testing how much I'd been nerfed. It wasn't too bad.

Mana regen seemed better

[modern pecan]

Nice. I'm still installing it at the moment

[vague ravine]

People don't seem to be happy with the Sorc nerfs.

[ripe sorrel]

pretty sure helltide cinders resource for the tortured gift chests has been nerfed. 7 minutes I was in there and only got about 43 cinders. In that time previously I was able to get enough for the 75 cinders chests

also RIP to the HotA barbarian build. Pretty sure one change just took it from S tier to A tier at best. Will be interested to see how sites view some of these changes in the coming days and re-evaluate where some builds are placed within their tiering systems

[modern pecan]

It really was a mistake going HotA lol

I'm happy to leave my Barb for a bit. I was just learning the game and enjoyed the experience. I'll move onto something else

[ripe sorrel]

I think I'm going to have a break from the game. I got to level 72, not far from level 73 and now events like Helltide have been increased to level 78 (75 as a baseline +3 levels) so its made things harder again. Top that off with some xp nerfs and yeah. Doesn't feel so rewarding now to level up 😦

[vague ravine]

I don't know what class to play for season 1

Sucks you can't trade things you get in dungeons. Just had a mount drop which I already own and can't trade it to Lucy.

[vague ravine]

This is the "ultimate" caged heart effect they gave sorcs:

Omnipower (Wrathful, Super-World Tier IV): Core Skills that launch a projectile consume all of your Mana. For every 45-35 extra Mana consumed, you launch an additional projectile, and the damage is increased by 3.0-5.0%.

Why would I want an ability that drains ALL of my mana?

I may try a different class for Season 1 rather than going with another Sorc, but I can't decide which one.

Sorc got nerfed hard from everything I'm reading. The new Unique is terrible and that caged heart ability is baffling.

[vague ravine]

🥳

[modern pecan]

Nice! Congrats 🙂

[ripe sorrel]

Congrats!

[vague ravine]

https://twitter.com/PezRadar/status/1681472781563891719

Adam Fletcher (@PezRadar)

We have been hearing feedback from players regarding some of the changes in 1.1.0 for #DiabloIV.

We are going to have a Campfire Chat later this week on Friday to talk more about it.

We will have more details/timing in the next day. Thanks again for the feedback!

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Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 1:15 AM

[ripe sorrel]

is it just me or have sacred item drops been capped to level 60? if so what use are they to players in world tier 4 that are level 100? Only reason I ask is I completed a legion event and some sacred loot dropped and they were all level 60. If what I read somewhere was true even ancestral loot may be capped to level 80...

[silk anvil]

Yes that's intentional. Ancestral has a cap at 80

You still get the varying item power though

Hopefully they fix helltides soon...

Did one last night to see how bad drop rate was bugged, took 40 mins to get 250 cinders

[ripe sorrel]

so what's the point in grinding past level 80 if there is no loot that properly scales with it? Would be as well capping the current character level to 80 too (which would mean RIP to a lot of paragon points) unless... Devs are making space for world tier 5

[vague ravine]

The loot does scale, as Eris just said.

It just caps the item at a lower level so you can pass it down to your alts, rather than it being useless if it has a level requirement of 95

It's just a usage cap, not a stat cap.

[ripe sorrel]

oh, that makes a lot more sense. I was under the impression that somehow we'd be running level 100 characters with level 80 stats. That in higher tier nightmare dungeons probably wouldn't have gone down well lol. Probably would have needed some real cheesy build to get through them after a certain tier

[vague ravine]

Level 19 so far in hardcore!

[vague ravine]

https://preview.redd.it/v4ojgnowwucb1.png?auto=webp&s=d7bdadfeba4571f6958743b62b883fd31dab67f9

[vague ravine]

I bet they initially planned to just nerf the cinder drop rate, then changed their mind and decided to increase the chest requirement and forgot to undo the drop nerf.

[atomic cosmos]

i heard they nerfed sorc, but I'm only like 51 and a half-dozen paragons or so, and didn't notice anything just running around last night

[vague ravine]

Level 25 in hardcore. Halfway there.

[silk anvil]

Overall, my build is still viable but less efficient. But the defensive nerfs are definitely felt. Anything higher than lvl 120ish is a no go anymore 😐

[modern pecan]

Where'd you end up for the evening?

[vague ravine]

Just about to hit 31

[modern pecan]

Oh nice! What class did you go?
Are the XP nerfs already in place? If so it doesn't sound too bad hitting 31 in one evening

[silk anvil]

The xp changes won't be felt as much until you hit the upper levels honestly

[vague ravine]

I went with Sorcerer for it.

I also just had a VERY close call. Went into a cellar and The Butcher came stomping towards me. Thank god for the Scroll of Escape.

No more cellars. Open world grinding only.

[modern pecan]

😬 close call

[vague ravine]

It wasn't just from this evening. I've been doing this on and off since this morning.

[modern pecan]

Oooh ok sorry I misunderstood. I might make a hardcore character for S1 for when my friends aren't on

[vague ravine]

I've mostly stayed around Fractured Peaks out in the open world killing enemies, dipping into the occasional cellar and doing the whisper quests. Hardcore gets a bunch of waypoints they can teleport to now, one of them being the tree, so I can do easy whisper challenges and then go pick up a whisper cache and a bunch of bonus XP.

[modern pecan]

Oh, did Hardcore not get waypoints to teleport to before?

[vague ravine]

Not that I recall, but could be wrong. I didn't play for long.

[vague ravine]

Well, 33 is a decent point to end the day. Quite pleased with that progress for one day of careful levelling.

Depending on how busy work is tomorrow, I may be able to manage 50 before season 1 goes live at 6.

[hushed nacelle]

Actually, it's with the new update, waypoints are shared across all accounts

same with map reveal and altars

or at least I'd assume so

[modern pecan]

Oh yeah of course. That's good then for doing a hardcore run

https://vxtwitter.com/PezRadar/status/1681775937183162368?t=gP34bjy9fNJTTjhVt0TOWQ&s=19

[vague ravine]

I don't know if I have all waypoints, but the map isn't fully revealed and the renown doesn't carry over to hardcore.

All that's revealed is a small area around each of the waypoints that it gives me at the major cities. Smaller towns and other waypoints I've had to find myself.

[modern pecan]

What time today does the season go live for us in UK? Is it 6?

[vague ravine]

Yep, 6pm

[vague ravine]

So it seems like the changes to the map and stuff is a little more selective than they implied.

On eternal/softcore the full map will be revealed to your other characters, but only major city waypoints are given automatically. If there's any minor once, you still need to discover those yourself.

In hardcore, it gives you the major city waypoints, no minor ones and does not uncover the map - other than the small area of the cities near the waypoint.

This is from a lvl 5 alt.

[vague ravine]

Made it to 40 in hardcore. I need to stop for a bit as work is getting a little busier.

There's also maintenance from 3:30pm for a couple of hours during which disconnects and lag could happen, so that is not hardcore play time!

[silk anvil]

hopefully they put hotfix in today

[modern pecan]

There was an update for the minimum level requirement today

But unsure if it included anything else

[silk anvil]

no helltides fix yet still 😐

[modern pecan]

What did they need to fix? Is it still not dropped the correct amount of embers?

[vague ravine]

869mb patch downloading for Diablo now.

[atomic cosmos]

Apparently we also have a thing https://twitter.com/icyveins/status/1681976628870537219?s=46&t=Y8v6cwe0GwPjK7w9Kwp6LQ

Icy Veins (@icyveins)

If you bought the Diablo 4 Ultimate Edition and have access to the Accelerated Battle Pass, you can save it for a future season.

https://t.co/JTtwoJv9Si

#Diablo #Diablo4

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Twitter · Jul 20, 2023, 10:37 AM

[vague ravine]

I'll just use it on this one

[silk anvil]

will fully depend on cosmetics if i use or not this one

[vague ravine]

Didn't they show them all already?

[silk anvil]

yeah but mean look at in game

[vague ravine]

New patch notes

[silk anvil]

yeah, thats what i was referring to earlier and no mention of fixing helltide drops

[vague ravine]

I think I'm going to play rogue

[silk anvil]

samesies

[vague ravine]

Which build?

[silk anvil]

dunno yet, will have to look tbh

i have a rogue on eternal, but didn't get much playtime on it yet

[vague ravine]

All I did with a rogue was get the class related achievement and stop.

It's level 5

I might try a Twisting Blades build

[silk anvil]

i think i was doing a flurry build iirc

[vague ravine]

That was my second choice. I'm reading them both now.

[silk anvil]

yeah, was doing flurry build for leveling so far, 31 rogue

[modern pecan]

All my friends are going rogue too. Were running 4 rogues

[silk anvil]

hah

i think rogue will be most popular choice since they seem to be the class in the best spot atm

[vague ravine]

Bets on the servers crapping out in 2 minutes?

Queued for login...

[modern pecan]

I haven't even done update yet, whoops

[silk anvil]

dang, new sorc cosmetic bundle in shop looks good lol

[vague ravine]

Not on a male Sorc it doesn't 😂

Barely any Sorc gear looks good on a male character.

[silk anvil]

true lol

[vague ravine]

Ugh, PvP challenges.

[silk anvil]

you dont have to finish all the challenges for each tier at least

[vague ravine]

Oh good.

The last tier needs you to purify 10,000(!!!) seeds of hatred.

Level 100 is needed too. 😫

[modern pecan]

?! With the XP nerfs?! Wow

[vague ravine]

I'll start playing properly once Lucy is allowed to log in. She's stuck after creating her character.

[modern pecan]

Snap!

[vague ravine]

Well then.

Oh come on, Blizzard. The emotes are locked to certain classes.

[modern pecan]

Ha. Good thing I didn't buy it! Not a fan of that system.

I'm longing it off for the night. I'm out at 7PM anyway

[vague ravine]

Lucy still can't get in game after choosing a character. 😒

[modern pecan]

Quite impressed with how busy it is considering how many people complained about S1

[vague ravine]

They already paid the entry fee.

[atomic cosmos]

Is it the fur lined coat one?

[vague ravine]

Super start to the season so far.

It took two hours for Lucy to be able to log in, so I was just grinding random mobs while waiting and not starting the season quests.

She finally gets in the game, we start the first season quest, load into the dungeon and get stuck on a perpetual loading screen.

Now we're queued to get back in game. 🙃

https://twitter.com/playful_mindG/status/1682094752525590539

PlayfulMindGaming (@playful_mindG)

@Diablo Thanks. I should have watched the video as I truly was not prepared for the epicness and challenge that is... walking from one zone into another. Truly a ton of fun, thank you.

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jul 20, 2023, 6:26 PM

[modern pecan]

Oh no.. that's poor. I just got home as started raining so called it early. Was hoping to play. Not in a good state still?

[kindred rain]

We've managed to log in but it's taken a while lol

and the quest we keep attempting, just gets stuck when we go into a loading screen

[modern pecan]

I'm on the cutscene so I think I'm further than I got earlier

[rare tartan]

I have had that happen to me twice. This was a few weeks ago before todays patch/update. I had to teleport to an other area and then back again to fix it.

[vague ravine]

I had an issue earlier where the camera stopped following me. I could still see myself moving on the mini-map as I ran out of view, but the camera would not move until I fast travelled somewhere else.

[vague ravine]

Oh, so when you complete a chapter of the season journey, you can't complete any of the remaining objectives you had in that chapter. It removes them entirely.

Ah, never mind, it just bugged out for a moment. 🙃

[modern pecan]

What is the best rogue build to go? I am trying twisting blade trap build but not a fan of it

[vague ravine]

We're using this - https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/flurry-rogue-leveling-guide

[modern pecan]

Thanks!

First time I've played since the patch, how can I be sure this game is still cross platform? 😄

[modern pecan]

Just had the same issue as you, Rhinne

I'm in the bottom left, camera isn't following me at all

[hushed nacelle]

I decided to give barrage rogue a try instead of sticking with sorc after all 😄

[vague ravine]

I made it to 15. A lot of that was just random mob grinding while waiting for Lucy to get online for two hours. I'll do more tomorrow.

Hopefully work isn't busy as I'm running holding the fort solo for most of the day.

[modern pecan]

I'm 14 and a half at the moment. I got another hour in me before I go to bed. I probably will play tomorrow during the day where I can

[modern pecan]

Annoyingly this one seems to be bugged. I've done 3

Still very very frustrating

[rare tartan]

that is not good

[modern pecan]

Yeah it's frustrating. Just poor performance from this game for me

Anybody know what this means in wardrobe?

Apparently means new item, and I did get some from the season pass. But they don't appear there for me

Another crash... Seems to be worse after this patch lol. Oh well

If it stays the same I'll probably have to wait until a patch

[vague ravine]

I think those markers are bugged. After I viewed all the new items the markers stayed for me too. It’s annoying.

[modern pecan]

Tons of crashes since playing. Really thinking about packing it in until there's a fix. I've died too many times now due to it

[ripe sorrel]

interesting unique I just had drop (so much for me taking a break from the game, right? lol)

walking arsenal key passive is kind of fun, shame none of the end game builds make use of it as you could proc technique bonuses from 3 different types of weapons all at once (when set up correctly)

[vague ravine]

Have you seen widespread reports of crashes, Albzi? I've not played much on PC so not really seen much mentioned.

[ripe sorrel]

still having issues with crashing, Albzi? At this point your GPU must be faulty or something 😦 I've only had one crash in however many hours I've played Diablo 4 for since it released

[vague ravine]

Doing a little more on hardcore today rather than seasonal. I want to get this achievement out of the way while I can, before I forget how to play the class, or they nerf this build into uselessness.

😂 https://old.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/1558bgu/bro_lost_his_hardcore_character_tryint_to_explain/

Poor guy

He'd been playing non-stop for 6 hours.

[modern pecan]

It happens to a lot of my friends too. We're constantly alt+tabbing in and out because we're following guides or on discord etc. The more we do it the worse it gets. I know the easy fix is to not alt+tab out but shouldn't happen in the first place 😅

[modern pecan]

Only happens on D4. No other game suffers

[vague ravine]

Which view mode are you using? Is it full screen, or is there a full screen windowed option?

I find full screen windowed often helps to prevent crashes and bugs from alt-tabbing.

[modern pecan]

There are only two, both are windowed

[vague ravine]

Ah, you're already using Windowed fullscreen then

[modern pecan]

I saw reports of memory leaks but not sure how true that is otherwise it'd be more widespread. But we are able to replicate it so we're pretty sure we know what it is.

Like I said it is kind of my fault for doing it so I can't be too annoyed, but when following a guide it's a lot easier to pull it up on my second monitor rather than phone

Just realised I had colourblind mode on (which is fine, I am colourblind) but I turned it off and the colours are so much better... I don't know why I even turned it on

[vague ravine]

Sure, not alt-tabbing may help to prevent it, but the game should be capable of allowing that to be done.

[modern pecan]

Yeah I do it in litterally every other game I play. Sometimes it still thinks it's in the background while allowing me to click around and play (max FPS is 8 which is what I set it to when it background)

[ripe sorrel]

I've got it set to the same 8 FPS (that is the default) just wondering if Diablo 4 is maybe one of these games that are sensitive to overclocks (assuming your system has been overclocked at all) but if it's just Diablo 4 then it kind of limits things down to it being a driver issue or issue with the game itself. So many things it could be. Sure hope you get it solved soon and able to play without issues. Constant crashes would drive me crazy to the point of uninstalling the game

[modern pecan]

Yeah I've overclocked it a bit but nothing crazy

[ripe sorrel]

might be worth undoing the overclock and seeing if the game is more stable. If it is then that's the cause. If not then back to figuring it out lol

[modern pecan]

I'll give it a go, thanks

[vague ravine]

Nice challenge. Is that ‘crashed’ @modern pecan ? 😄

[modern pecan]

I actually havent completed any challenges haha, not sure what that one was for

Definitely the crashed challenge like you say 😄

[silk anvil]

There are some amazing bugs from this patch. Best I've seen so far is where the camera just stops following the player lol

[vague ravine]

Yep, had that happen.

It also happened on my hardcore character - and the character went invisible too. Right as I was climbing down a cliff towards a pack of enemies. I had to quit out and reload the game. Thankfully I was still alive.

[modern pecan]

I had to teleleport back to town which fixed it thankfully

[silk anvil]

I'm just hoping they don't nerf rogue to oblivion when they try to balance the game again

[modern pecan]

Yeah we're all really enjoying Rogue at the moment. They're not so great at 1v1s but in groups they're really fun

[modern pecan]

Made it to "complete chapter 4", but they're getting a little bit tedious now

Also think you were right, not getting any crashes now @ripe sorrel, thanks 🙂

[vague ravine]

For the seasonal challenge to obtain 10 cache from the tree of whispers, get one and don't open it. Drop it on the ground, pick it up, repeat.

Each one counts as getting a new one. 😂

[modern pecan]

Wow...

I spent all day running dungeons for them 😂😂

Oh well. Was good experience at least as the next one you have to get to level 50 anyway

Thanks for the tip though. I've let my friends know

[vague ravine]

20 minutes for the excuse train - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZuG4Yng4bY

The new Belladonna cosmetic gear for Necro in the store looks very cool. Shame you'd never see half that detail in-game. And no way I'm paying £21 for an in-game outfit locked to a class I don't currently play.

[ripe sorrel]

£21 for an in game outfit... what the hell?!

[vague ravine]

Yep. It costs 2,500 platinum. The bundle for 2,600 platinum (2,500 + 100 free) is £20.99.

[ripe sorrel]

Ouch, that's free to play sorts of microtransactions on a game that cost to play. Better not give them any ideas but what next? £50 for new classes. I'd really like games to come with an option to hide microtransactions entirely

[vague ravine]

People are also - rightfully - not happy about the accellerated battle pass.

The devs said you can save it for future seasons if you don't want to use it for this one. However, when you go to the season page, the button to activate the accellerated pass is the default - and there's no confirmation prompt.

If you accidentally press the button with it being the default, it redeems your accelerated pass. Only then does the top button in the menu because the default.

That's gross.

[silk anvil]

I found this out the hard way last night

[vague ravine]

😦

[silk anvil]

oh good, whats his name isnt there today

[ripe sorrel]

😦 so many things going wrong. I still enjoy the game but latest patch with balancing was poor

[vague ravine]

On the campfire chat just now they said about the patch 'We know it's bad. We know it's not fun. But we want to talk about why we did it'.

[ripe sorrel]

kind of hope there is some post video summary of what was said. Just not into watching a lot of these things

[modern pecan]

If they have a good reason I get it. But I hope they're not catering to the 1% of people who rush to 100 on all characters and end up making it less fun for casual players

[modern pecan]

I'd imagine it'll be on Reddit

[silk anvil]

...

[ripe sorrel]

yeah, that's what I feel is happening. May be wrong but seen it so many times in games with levelling systems similar where devs will often make it harder to level after so long and of course, that harms the majority of players that don't have the kind of time to max even one character, let alone all of them. Something isn't right there I'd say

btw, I think the unique drop rate has improved... watch it be unintended again. I got 3 uniques earlier. Pretty happy if it keeps up like that (but it probably won't)

[silk anvil]

ive done balance changes before in a game, and this just hurts with just excuses

[ripe sorrel]

the balancing changes I dislike the most are the ones where the best gear, skills etc are nerfed. If anything I don't see why the gear, skills etc that maybe aren't as good can't be buffed to get closer to the best stuff

[silk anvil]

the main thing is they know end game stuff is overtuned, and not fixing that at the same time or before the "balancing"

[vague ravine]

Ugh, season 2 for gems to be changed to materials.

So they that players were just doing nightmare dungeons with enemies three levels above them and not challenging themselves, so made changes to the XP to try and encourage people to go to +10.

But the XP for +3 was 25% and now you get 15% for +10.

I don't understand how they thought that was a good change and how they felt that reason for the change justified it.

But they are at least going to speed up lvls 51 to 100.

[silk anvil]

Have they mentioned anything about helltide cinders??

[vague ravine]

Nope

The only thing they mentioned about helltides is an increase in mob density.

Same for NDs. They're going to do a big increase to mob density across all of NDs. For Helltides the changes will vary by area as some are already dense or could affect performance.

[silk anvil]

A lot of this sounds like, come back at season 2!

[vague ravine]

And 3

We're at least getting another stash tab.

Treasure goblin loot tables are getting a boost.

Really frustraing that gem/inventory changes won't be until season 2.

Elixir stacks are getting bumped up to 99 though

[silk anvil]

Yeah, inventory space is a sticky thing but they should have done each character has their own stash but one shared

[vague ravine]

Well, they did just address complaints about nerfing things one day, then buffing weeks later in the future and said that they will be applying nerfs and buffs together in the same updates going forward.

Hotfix today too

[silk anvil]

We're going to be better at communication and talk about stuff on chats but not today's!

[vague ravine]

They also brought up concerns, said they'll explain why those changes were made, then danced around everything. That was a whole lot of talk with very little useful info.

Also too many of these damn hearts drop

For something that can only go in jewellery, there's too many of the things.

I miss pets 😦

[modern pecan]

You could get pets? Were they cosmetic only?

[hushed nacelle]

I saw they said they fixed cinder drop rates in a hotfix shortly after the patch?

like, maybe Wednesday?

[atomic cosmos]

Yes cosmetic only

They could bring them back. The tech still exists.

They can also bring wings back since the back slot still exists

[vague ravine]

Cosmetic, but also had a function. Pets would run around and pick up gold for you.

[atomic cosmos]

Oh did they? I totally forgot about that

Having a Zergling pet and the Kerrigan wings was so good though

[vague ravine]

https://www.gameskinny.com/tips/the-complete-list-of-diablo-3-pets-and-their-locations/

[silk anvil]

I saw they were looking into it but I didn't see it fixed called out?

[vague ravine]

And now the game isn't working. NPC for a quest didn't show up, so we logged out to restart and now it's giving an endless queue or an error.

No update for the game showing available.

[silk anvil]

Oh I see they did fix it

The cinders drop rate that is

[atomic cosmos]

https://www.ign.com/articles/blizzard-admits-it-messed-up-with-diablo-4s-disastrous-nerf-patch-announces-upcoming-sweeping-changes

[modern pecan]

Is this a woman you're looking for? That happened to me before because I was on my mount. Had to be off for her to spawn

[atomic cosmos]

https://twitter.com/pezradar/status/1682526782732533760?s=46&t=Y8v6cwe0GwPjK7w9Kwp6LQ

Adam Fletcher (@PezRadar)

The Hotfix mentioned on stream today is now coming this evening as we had service disruptions. Team is prepping it now. #DiabloIV

Likes

943

Twitter · Jul 21, 2023, 11:03 PM

[vague ravine]

No, it was the new seasonal quest guy.

[vague ravine]

Level 49 in hardcore! So close to the achievement!

https://tenor.com/view/cat-driving-serious-cat-driving-hold-on-gif-16076083

[vague ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/ag-ag-hardcore-ag-parkour-parkour-ag-hardcore-ag-gif-25798315

[modern pecan]

Nice one! Congrats 😄

[modern pecan]

I've done chapter 4 now. Onto Chapter 5 but I think I need to unlock WT3 first

Not to proceed with the challenges, but I'm very underleveled at the moment

[hushed nacelle]

Rhinne, this one actually hasn't been too bad

I've been doing it in WT2, so far, no one has been attacking each other, yeah, people mad rush click for the seeds, but no one is going around trying to kill each other for them

[silk anvil]

^ was really easily tbh

[vague ravine]

That's surprising. I would have thought they'd be killing everyone when extracting/purifying.

[silk anvil]

we had a couple people try that, but they just died repeatedly to us

[vague ravine]

I'd probably be the one doing the dying.

[silk anvil]

they eventually left us alone, but that was the only other people in the area besides us that we ever saw

[vague ravine]

Are you just doing quests and dungeons to level up so far? Or an optimised route of some kind?

[silk anvil]

so many hearts...

nothing optimized, just bunch of random stuff following the chapter stuff mainly

we did a few strongholds in wt3 tonight though

legion events are great xp

[vague ravine]

I'm so tired of the hearts already.

[silk anvil]

ashava in 5 mins

we ended up doing capstone at 36, well laura was uh, 42? i think lol

[vague ravine]

If future seasons are like this, I likely won't be bothering. The season rewards and the battle pass rewards are pretty much all crap. I don't care about titles, the aspects are handy I guess but if they're going to transfer over to eternal afterwards then they may be obtainable there as normal.

The emotes are useless. Never used an emote outside of when a quest needed one. The cosmetics are no good and you can barely see character detail any way.

Give me swords on fire or other cool stuff.

And I want pets goddamnit.

I may do the season quests to find out more of the story, but that's it unless they make big changes. There's no items that draw me in to be worth the time and effort involved compared to D3 seasons.

[silk anvil]

yeah, hoping particle effects eventually or more glowy hah

[vague ravine]

Main thing I want to do now is Uber Lilith for the last achievement.

[modern pecan]

I'm only level 48. Going to do some strongholds in WT3. Need to level up more

I do find I'm just basically doing the same thing though as before in eternal realm

[vague ravine]

I'm a hair away from 38 so far.

[modern pecan]

I am still enjoying it but if the end game is just grinding the chapter content then I'm going to probably finish it up then just wait for next season. I won't bother doing all of them like getting to level 100 with all these xp nerfs

[modern pecan]

Damn, was following that Rogue guide you posted, Rhinne. Hit level 50 then saw that there isn't a 50-75 or endgame guide yet. Will have to mix it with a similar build even if it isn't the same

[vague ravine]

Ah damn

[modern pecan]

The other guides have a dash so not sure how well it'll translate for paragon points

[vague ravine]

https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/flurry-rogue-guide

Seems they didn't update the links

[modern pecan]

Oh! Sorry yeah I only looked on the original link you posted and saw that it said coming soon. Thanks 🙂

[vague ravine]

Yeah I just went to Google and that was the top result so I guess they failed to update the links on that page. 😄

[modern pecan]

Ah yeah I just used another site

[modern pecan]

Ah thankfully the paragon points I put in are where the guide needs it to be anyway

[ripe sorrel]

oh my... I wish I hadn't looked at the whirlwind barb guide as it has changed quite a bit. At least it is now more up to date but more changes 😱

[modern pecan]

I really prefer the Rogue flurry build to that barb ww build. It's similar in ways but less frustrating haha

[vague ravine]

https://preview.redd.it/40sq2fs4cjdb1.png?auto=webp&s=aebae66501ce8aa08916c2154d0a8eef0b89b154

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-libre-why-but-gif-23595404

[modern pecan]

I've never once cared about another player I've run into to be honest other than the friends I play with

[ripe sorrel]

if anything I'd like a friends only option. That way it will reduce the memory overhead until I decide to play with friends. World will be kind of dead otherwise with no other players but it could get people to play with friends more if they opt out of a public option so they don't feel all left out and stuff

btw, I decided to give the revamped whirlwind barb a try. Lots of changes needed but I actually like it a bit more than before. Need to work on some gear but that's nothing new. Just hope every new season doesn't bring with it changes of this kind of scale to builds or it will become annoying very quick changing stuff up

[silk anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/no-words-speechless-dismay-gif-7582357

[silk anvil]

i forgot how large of power jump it is going from normal to sacred items

[ripe sorrel]

sorted my build to match the starter to the endgame of whirlwind barb and idk but I think it has already made the game too easy. Still got one equip slot to turn legendary (that being a ring) but now after a very specific aspect that hardly ever drops seemingly and then to improve the existing gear aspects and more specific gear stats. Fully min/maxed this would be terrifying and I even have all the late endgame ancestral uniques if I wanted to play around even more! Think I'm liking the game again lol

[vague ravine]

"UI issue". Sure, that's one way to describe an intentional manipulative implementation.

https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1683470696028971009

IGN (@IGN)

Blizzard has promised a fix a Diablo 4 UI issue that can accidentally activate the premium battle pass. https://t.co/cKcn1LJvdq

Twitter · Jul 24, 2023, 1:34 PM

[rare tartan]

yeah i saw that on twitter - I be so mad of that happened like no conformation button are you sure? When you go to that tab it also hightlights the option as default

[vague ravine]

Agh the RNG on these wrathful invokers sucks.

[modern pecan]

What an awful armour

[atomic cosmos]

you mistyped 'awesome'

[modern pecan]

[modern pecan]

Does anyone know how to fix this without restarting? I'm in a party by myself but it says I'm using my friend's campaign status

[vague ravine]

Looks like a restart situation to me.

[modern pecan]

Yeah just had to, but happens fairly often when party leader leaves which can be annoying

[vague ravine]

I was trying to reset dungeons earlier and it kept telling me I couldn't because another player was still inside a dungeon. I was playing solo.

[rare tartan]

maybe a telport to main town and back again

[modern pecan]

Tried that, and changing world tiers etc. Nothing was working

[rare tartan]

other devs have chimed in on this and as to say they did not hold back https://www.gamesradar.com/devs-and-players-accuse-diablo-4-of-menu-design-that-makes-you-accidentally-pay-for-its-battle-pass&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=oxm/&utm_campaign=socialflow-oxm/

[atomic cosmos]

So I bought the green ghost horse armor in the shop…. It looks pretty cool

But then I went to the stable to change the horse I was using to one that looked better with the glow

And now….. the armor and the matching trinkets is not listed and can’t be bought again. Sigh.

[silk anvil]

are they in your inventory to be used?

[ripe sorrel]

resource burn nightmare dungeons are no fun 😦

going to actively look out for and avoid those ones

[silk anvil]

yes avoid those

[ripe sorrel]

what's worse I had some shield thingy following me and activating at times. Made doing anything kind of difficult lol

met the butcher for the first time in a while and I umm butchered them! This build really is something. Not even afraid to fight the butcher like I used to be (though the big chicken hardly ever appears for me lol)

[atomic cosmos]

Nope. I’d “apply all” so they were actually being used when I went back in to the@game. Then using the stable made them disappear and they aren’t on my inventory or anything. Just totally disappeared so I’ve rage quit lol

[vague ravine]

Fortnite got heavily fined for this kind of dark pattern crap. Blizzard should be too. But they'll put it down to a bug and get away with it.

[modern pecan]

I don't know why I always stay and fight the butcher... He doesn't ever drop anything worth beating him for

[vague ravine]

I usually let him just kill me now, unless I want to test a new build.

[modern pecan]

Usually if you run away enough he despawns but I for some reason think that maybe this one time I kill him he's going to drop something amazing...

[ripe sorrel]

never know, I'd rather kill the butcher than be butchered 😄 Any time he does pop in to say hi I treat him like any other enemy until that health bar is no more

[modern pecan]

Same, even if it takes all of my health pots lol

[ripe sorrel]

still annoys me a little how he's possibly the toughest "boss" npc you can fight in dungeons and yet he isn't one that is the end of dungeon boss (though I am aware of an uber butcher) but I find no difficulty in the actual dungeon bosses

[modern pecan]

There's an uber butcher?

[vague ravine]

I know he can be affected with enrage so he ends up massive.

[modern pecan]

Oh I haven't seen that. I'll have to take a look online.
Also silly question what does this symbol mean?

[vague ravine]

https://preview.redd.it/mnpf6k14po9b1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=9f4fa7b675d0e448ad1cce3d41e962ed97e8f0eb

[vague ravine]

Where are you seeing that exactly?

[modern pecan]

Oh sorry, for context I get it at the end of a nightmare dungeon

Oh wow The butcher is huge there... I didn't realise he could get so big. Does he drop better loot like that? Kind of like a Borderlands style thing?

[vague ravine]

Probably not.

[modern pecan]

[vague ravine]

And not sure on that symbol.

[modern pecan]

I did google it but couldn't find anything either

[ripe sorrel]

are there any other conditions to nightmare dungeons I should maybe avoid? Ran into resource burn and that was the first time I've really seen my whirlwind barb look bad lol

[modern pecan]

I'm not a fan of the lightning one as it always slows me down

[vague ravine]

I'm not sure what you rely on as a whirlwind barb.

[modern pecan]

Just your fury really

[vague ravine]

With my Sorc, enemies that took less cold damage and affeced less by crowd control were ones I avoided.

[modern pecan]

Hold right click until enemies are dead

Barb has 2 "escapes" or whatever they are called to not get frozen by ice too

[ripe sorrel]

building up fury but if enemies are distant resource burn kills that fury build up dead and kills about 95% of damage I can deal

[modern pecan]

I'm not a fan of the ones where they explode after dying too, because you're up and amongst it as a WW barb too

Whoops wasn't paying attention and didn't take my own advice lol

[ripe sorrel]

heh, I take extra care to look out for those and take out the enemy type before it has any chance to explode or dash out the way to avoid being hit. Obviously I won't avoid them all the time though. Only enemies I don't like at times is the ones with the fire trail and fireball on death

ooh I had one of those conditions along with the resource burn and it was horrid 😄

[vague ravine]

That one is annoying, but the one I hate more is the one that explodes when it gets to you

[modern pecan]

Ah yeah I forgot about that one, not as annoying as a tanky barb but more so as a rogue. I assume lethal to a sorc 😅

Bit of a better picture with everything else.
Not sure what left of the gold means

[vague ravine]

Oh, isn't that just XP towards your paragon?

[modern pecan]

I'm honestly not sure. Is that how it works out how much XP to give at the end of a dungeon then?

[vague ravine]

Pre-50 it definitely shows XP in that section, so I'm going to assume that's paragon XP/points of some kind.

[atomic cosmos]

I hate the paragon board. It is confusing and hard to plan

[silk anvil]

It's just xp you earn for level

[modern pecan]

I just read a guide for the build I'm doing and then I don't have to engage the brain 😅

[vague ravine]

Yeah, same. I tried putting something together at first but it’s so convoluted and too many boards and stats to keep track of.