#xbox-cloud-gaming
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What game is it.....
Exactly...
pretty sure most people know what game it is considering this is an xbox discord and it's freaking msfs
I'm not "most people"
might as well tell me that nobody is going to be able to talk about halo because nobody knows what it is
I legit don't know what it means
okay, you were asking when a particular game comes to cloud. you used a short acronym for it, which not everyone may recognize, especially if they don't play that particular game.
at this point, fairly sure they're talking about Flight Sim, which has no xcloud release date
Oh
The waiting screen is not that bad, it’s just about 30 secs at most. I’ve never had a game take 5 mins to load on cloud gaming.
same, 10-20 seconds at most for me
And I use it on Windows, Xbox One, Android, and iOS
I've got screenshots from yesterday but can't attach
It says "lots of people are playing" and gives a loading bar + estimate when you can start playing
same, and I play on iOS as well with awful signal
my signal is terrible because im the only one not sitting right next to my router
Same, i keep getting dc'ed every 5 minutes
Cell data is terrible in my experience
I usually only have a bit of screen tear
I only get dc'ed in tabs because it's pretty easy to break the 30 unit limit/get enough going on at once, but i do get interrupted frequently
On WiFi, I am close to the router, and it works fine as long as nothing else is streaming
I'd say stadia is a win in terms of streaming quality
You are not wrong
I just think xcloud is a better service mode, i prefer subscription services
It also depends on the device you use for Xbox Cloud Gaming. Apple devices usually are the worst
lol I use my iPhone
Im android with a kishi
got the backbone for mine
Stadia is also good for F2P games you can't run
And the nearest server is like... a state away lol
I used it on iPhone, but I guess I need a new phone because I’m on the 6s and not 8 or newer
sadly Stadia isn't available on my country yet....
I just wish a server opens up in michigan
oh that might make a difference with a newer phone
and i don't know any other VPN besides GameEnable
I’ve sideloaded the Game Pass app on Android TV and it works better than before with the newer app updates
I wouldn’t recommend using a VPN for stuff like that… I’m not sure what the terms say for Stadia but I know that’s a violation of Xbox’s terms
It's not a violation if you're paying for the service, it'll just be a poor experience as the servers are far away from you
People use that excuse for Xbox too
Like I said, I’m not sure what Stadia’s terms say…
not really about xcloud but kishi does have some problems
-dpad is terrible
-passthrough charging doesn't work on some phones
-tied to that OS on weather you buy android or apple, not wireless either
People used to abuse MS Rewards point gain with VPNs and QuizBots, that's imo a bad use of VPN
but using it to play a service you're paying, i don't know man
And no media share
like I said, I don’t know what Stadia’s terms are, but I’m assuming they’re similar to Xbox’s terms in regards to using VPNs or other means to bypass restrictions
Unless on PC
um, kishi is a phone controller
Ah, my bad. I thought you were mentioning Xbox media share
How does the gyroscope/motion feature works on mobile xcloud?
i thought it could be used on race games but it didn't work on my end
Xbox doesn’t have motion controls, that I know of (beside the Kinect)
I mean, yeah but it's a feature on mobile xCloud
why not respond here?
Sounds like a phone feature, not cloud gaming feature. Xbox controller doesn’t have gyroscope/motion controls.
It's a cloud gaming feature
still looking for that citation
cant send images here @hollow narwhal
imgur link
Looks like an option with the touch controls. But I don’t even know how gyro controls will work with a top down game.
The game running in the background was only used so I could screenshot the control settings
ain't it weird how 5 ghz connections are recommended for "a more consistent experience" yet im ridiculed with interruptions, controls freezing, and other not very "consistent" bugs?
Cable > Wifi
On a phone.
How would I know that? 😄
idk dude
Same with remote play.
Pretty sure it’s still in beta, besides, anything requiring an internet connection will have interruptions… Just how tech is
Remote play from consoles will work a lot better than the actual data center's servers
You would think.
It doesn't matter how good your connection is, cloud gaming always screws up.
Just curious do achievements not pop or track during cloud gaming sessions? I’m currently playing Hades as we speak via my Series X and it seems that I’ve made no progress toward any of the achievements shockingly. Any knowledge on this be greatly appreciated.
They should pop up similar to the Series X|S and Xbox One. On Windows, it shows up as an achievement if you are playing on Windows.
Hello 👋
they do pop up but i also didnt get any achievement while playing hades for some reason
maybe thats because the game doesnt have or has hard achievements
yeah the game doesnt have any achievements
i just looked into its steam page and it doesnt say that the game has achievements
If I can get it to connect 😩
It's not hard!
Hades may not have achievements on Steam, but it absolutely does on Xbox (49 to be exact). Some of the achievements are hard, and I've also noticed that they sometimes don't show that they've popped when using cloud.
My bad then sorry im just dumb didnt see that the game has achievements on steam
You may have to reboot your console for it to work. I have to do that sometimes, since my console is on WiFi.
Reboot, make sure the console signs you in, and then when on the home screen, open and close the guide
The last part with opening and closing the guide I haven’t tried yet (seems very macguyvery 😆)
But I’ve tried all the troubleshooting for remote play… it works on my same wifi that the console is connected to at home, but no where else
volume on full blast and still no sound 😍
And achievements broke. Whoopie. Time to waste another few hours
Are you getting kicked out of games or are games not starting or?
Hours later and sound is still broken
how come only some games have touch support?
i get "controller better" but then why add it at all?
hate how i sound whiny when I'm just trying to genuinely ask questions
And earlier, my tabs custom units were deleted and wiped from the store for no real reason. Okay, so i made a new one. Now, that's gone and the old one is back. How messy is this service 😭
because some people are more comfortable with touch controls idk
you missed half my message bruh
your crossed out message has nothing to do with touch controls or controllers but go off
im gonna go back and see that my units reset AGAIN to the newer ones
"how come only some games have touch controls"
Because its still beta I guess
Btw I don't recommend touch control no fun at all
Just find a cheap controller if you can't afford xbox controller it should be compatible.
Can you play hades on mobile?
yes the game has touch controls
Did anyone tried clarity boost?
Yes!
bruh i would love if xcloud has raft, house flipper and the famous games
rocket league, etc
It needs to be games that are on Game Pass, so that rules out Rocket League with it being free to play.
Hi
Hello
Sup
Which i answered
No you didn't???
You answered the questions "why do some games have touch controls"
but I'm asking "why do some have them, and not others"
well it would be pretty hard to play halo infinite with touch controls
theres touch controls on SoT tho 🤔
Because Xbox didn’t just make a single touch abstraction layer once and then flip a switch to enable it in all things at all times without testing. Touch won’t be a good experience in some games, some developers will not want touch enabled, touch won’t actually even work with some games, so… the world isn’t simple
^^
You can just emulate your own touch controls btw
for games with no support, look up on youtube/PlayStore
Is raft in game pass?
The answer is apparently no
Correct.
You already knew?
Yes
I wasn’t exactly sure though, that’s why I sent you the link to check
Oh okay
Anyone else here been seeing more of the screen wipe or screen refresh as of late?
Especially it seems since after Christmas, which makes me think it might be due to increased traffic to the data centers?
whenever I launch a game on cloud gaming with the xbox app on pc the texture quality is so bad and laggy the game just becomes unplayable
What about on Xbox have you tried that?
ye
Using Ethernet cable?
I am using ethernet and while I don't see lag or blurriness I do get the screen wipe or refresh effect, but it isn't all the time. What would cause this?
Is FIFA 22 available on Xcloud?
Or better question: Where do I see the catalog for the games available?
(FIFA 22 is the newest FIFA right?)
No
Fifa 22 is not on Game Pass and won't be until at least around May or June.
Thank you
Guys do you have to have your Xbox on to remote play? Or can it be off.
You have can turn it off, but needs to have instant-on enable (standby mode)
Its optional. But if you do want to remote play to your PC, Laptop, or mobile device via the Xbox app, instant-on needs to be turned on. You can turn it off in the Xbox settings if you don't use it.
Ok thanks I was confused because h there is no instant on setting just standby that helps a lot thanks
Thankyou
I looooooooove paying for something unplayable
might as well just put in ads full time if i get interrupted every 5 seconds
I don’t see ads all the time… what are you talking at?
read what i said again
Fine, “ nothing I have is unplayable… what are you talking about” 
Im saying i get interrupted every 5 seconds
Would you or would you not consider that playable?
What is interrupting you “every 5 seconds”? What is “unplayable”? What have you tried to do to resolve this issue? It is clearly not a widespread problem… which means it is resolvable
No, the stream has a heart attack and interrupts what im playing when the distance between my device and my router changes ever so slightly. Sorry for not having los angeles internet? Sorry for not being tied to my router?
You act like because YOU don't have problems, that everyone else shouldn't either
When it does have one of it's frequent episodes, whatever control i was using (like tilting the joystick in a direction) it will freeze that control until it uninterrupts and let's me play again
Using the joystick example, this causes me to walk into stuff while I can't do a thing
I’m sorry that you couldn’t describe your problem in a non-combative way. Good luck getting your system stabilized!
I have similar issues with remote play.
thank you! someone who isn't always "blame the consumer"
I was trying to play Halo Infinite via Cloud Gaming (on pc with a controller via bluetooth) but it was nearly impossible as it seemed that controller sensitivity was completely different compared to the standard Xbox gameplay experience.
I'd recommend going wired because wireless controller + bad beta servers aren't a good mix
Haven't tried that yet. Will try. Thanks.
Does anybody know how does Cloud Gaming manages game settings. For example Halo Infinite graphical settings was automatically set to Performance mode when I run the game via Cloud Gaming. That makes sense. But it means that the settings can't be synced to Xbox settings of the game. But how about the other settings? Does it mean that some settings are synced form Cloud to Xbox and some are not? 🤔 Or are they not synced at all?
The settings you'll get when launching a game on Xbox Cloud Gaming will be based on the Xbox Series S
The only settings that you can change that will sync between the cloud and console (that I know of) is audio settings. I don't mess with video settings that much, unless its a PC game, so I couldn't tell you between console and cloud if it works.
i accidently selected german or something like that in dead space and i cant undo it now
does anyone know how can i make the game english
try deleting the save data
In most cases, the save data is connected to your account, so removing it from the console will only make it resync to the cloud when you launch the game…
If you go into the game settings on the main menu (if there is one), is there a language option? Sometimes language options are under Audio or Video settings as well, depending on the game.
i couldnt find a language option in the settings
i used google lens to translate the menus
Is there an option to change your resolution?
Streaming on console doesn't support local multiplayer? I only tried some indies tbh. Maybe first party titles works better?
As far as I know, cloud gaming doesn’t support local co-op at all… I imagine it would be hard to accept inputs from two devices if it’s being played off of a server through another device (the console, in this case).
I see. thanks.
PES2021 its not on xcloud anymore?
yeah game isnt in Game Pass anymore
you need to look on the Game Pass app, there is a leaving soon list.. games leave every month. you get a 2 week notice before it goes off the service
so fun playing under a time limit yet get interrupted every 5 seconds
yeah okay just make fun of me reactions, all my fault for paying for a service everyone was praising when im freezing FOR 3 WHOLE MINUTES
under a time limit
@mild grove please be a lil less hostile to others
not my intentions, apologies
Has xbox announced when Microsoft flight sim comes to cloud gaming for xbox one?
Yes
When?
Whoops, I totally read your question wrong (I thought you asked if they announced if it was coming to Xbox Cloud Gamign). I would assume it is going to the cloud sometime this year
Oh, at least its this year, I can wait some more I've only been waiting for it since they released the trailer in 2019
How long are the wait times for pc cloud gaming mines been running a little while
Top 'notification' https://support.xbox.com/en-US/
Cloud Gaming is amazing
what if internet goes bad
Then no game
Cloud gaming is cool, but people criticize it because its not HD. Its literally getting streamed.
the issue is that is not avaible for worldwide
It’s OK, I wouldn’t use it for any first person games.
I only use it for 2d games like stardew valley
I use it for Halo when im not at home
Where can I go to redeem my ultimate gamepass card? The redeem on xbox not coming up
It takes you to your account, but I have scratch off cards?
It should bring you to a page where you put in your code, you might have to sign in first
Yeah thats the. Page but it's all white, you can't do this through a cell?
it will not work, all xbox redeem methods are crashed
(aka the last discussion by me in #233805809346150400 )
I’m seeing a couple people who are having issues but that doesn’t mean it crashed
Theyre servers were wonky after a maintenance today, might still be buggy for some
in xbox app the app crash
Their *
thx you all for looking into it
I put in a call 52 minutes wait time
For someone to call back
Xbox store is having issues
Yeah unfortunately that's the story of the world, everything's in chaos lol
It is HD. It’s not UHD though.
720p is hd
Not anymore.
720p is considered Sub-HD
the signal classification is "HD" but generally it's now deprecated as being HD
due to streaming
Huh? 720 is hd, 1080 is full hd
yeah, that's signal classification
still hd lol
Yea, words work best when people don’t go and try to change their meaning after 15 years lol
"Full HD" means it's the full-HD, it's a newer term for 1080p
then complain about it not being full hd, not hd
if it's not full, then it's sub
same reason 720p panels don't ship with the HD label anymore
hey is it possible to mark your favorite cloud games? i know you can add games to 'play later' but that doesnt include playing it via cloud. im on PC
I don't know if PC is similar to console, but I add my cloud games to the home screen?
cause it's annoying to have to keep scrolling through the entire gamepass section
wdym in the game pass app you can mark play later games
i still dont get it
are there gonna be spiderman games on xcloud or not?
the subreddit said they dont have a license anymore
There’s no Spider-Man game on gp
Spiderman belongs to Sony afaik, so I don’t think we’ll ever get Spiderman on Xbox
yeah I don't think I've seen any of the big spidey games on xbox
yes i know
microsoft on their way to get millions of subscribers but still rush out (and not fix) their beta servers
They… they are beta…
which i said
I’m sure they’re doing their best, you can’t expect Beta stuff to work 100% of the time… You can’t expect this of anything actually, because technical difficulties happen constantly
beta in software means "not done"
i know, it just happens so often it irritates me to the brim
literally expect bugs
This, can’t quote it enough
i just don't want to sit next to my router when using a portable phone
this reminds me of a funny bug i got in superliminal, where when i dropped an object it clipped through the floor
If you have to "sit next to your router" to get your wifi to work, then that is definitely not anything to do with xcloud/microsoft/xbox in any way shape or form.
it's 50 mbps when away or next to it, but it only interrupts when im away from it
There’s wifi congestion. Try using 5 GHz, it’s less likely to have interference.
i am, and i'll also place some of the blame on myself because roku ALWAYS has wifi on
so i can prob change that connection/unplug it
and my phones wifi chip sucks so it needs to be closer than necessary
how do i use cloud gaming
To learn more, Visit https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-game-pass/cloud-gaming
link zero provided, console app, pc app, or mobile app
need a controller for all options btw, mouse and keyboard don't have support yet
theres also unofficial browser extensions for mouse and keyboard but idk what tos says
No you don’t, some games support touch controls on the mobile app.
Forgot about that, sorry ps1 hagrid
It’s ok
Why does it say I need a credit card
Subscriptions require a payment method to continue the subscription
No? Lol
I’m to young to have a credit card ._.
🤷
Sorry to hear that then
as mentioned in one of the other exact same conversations within the past 15 minutes ... in some regions you can use a paypal account also
If you have the money idk if gamepass still has physical cards but you can look
I redeemed the game pass and got a game how do I launch a game?
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My DM isn’t support
@grizzled oracle, has been warned for spamming.
Is a subscription required?
For Cloud Gaming?
im sure he meant the game pass since he asked that right here
But right here is cloud gaming…
I mean, the answer is yes for both
cloud gaming is crashing? I can't enter any game
Lucky, i have to wait 3 minutes for my instant gaming to crash seconds later
Can someone log into gameloft live account
no.
How
how do i use my mic on xcloud
its just not working
in a game like project winter where mic communication is very important i gotta get my mic working
You have to unmute it, select the three dots in the top left corner and click the mic icon
What are you playing on
android xbox game pass app
Are you trying to use a microphone connected to your controller?
no i dont think so
Did you give the app permission to use your microphone? If that's even a thing
yeah i checked that app has the permission
Huh... What is the device called?
Samsung Galaxy J7 Prime i think i tried it on many phones thank you for trying to help i guess ill just look into reddit posts
why are my loading times so long?
Depends on internet
i see
i can start a zelda game and finish a dungeon before my game loads

Go to Xbox.com/play login with your Xbox account and click play on a game
As long as its available in your region
Guys if I got games with gold do I keep them
Only the OG Xbox and 360 games. XB1 games are only playable while you have an active subscription.
That doesn't matter.
But there is battle field And I wanna play it so badly
So buy the game, or pay whatever subscription will get you access to it.
But it says get with gold
Yeah I mean 2042
It's only available this weekend as an extended trial.
So I can’t keep it
bro this whole conversation so funny to me 😭
i accidentally started forza horizon 5 on cloud and didnt even notice.
but i will say this.
kinda bad decision for the xbox app to launch an installed game on the console through cloud
it does that?
There’s remote play, that plays games on your xbox. And there there’s cloud gaming, that plays games off xbox servers.
yo
If I use cloud gaming, can I play games on my xbox without installing them?
Yes
It has any disadvantage?
It’s 1080
Possible lag and quality issues based on your network connection
very rare queues and some games arent on cloud
also unplayable when your internet connection is unstable with freezing and reconnecting stuff
Okay
how do i use cloud gaming in india,(i dont mind if its even vpn but need an solution), i have ultimate btw
Pinging xbox team for something that breaks tos
oh
Eden will be able to see anyways
is she a hacker?
Logs, I think they logs.
Unfortunately, if the service is not available in your country, you simply cannot use it.
Any attempts to circumvent that can only get you banned and render your console unusable.
thanks, ive seen some vids wehere ppl did it
so just curios to know how
It’s possible but it breaks tos and has a high risk of account ban
And we won’t tell you how
And we're telling you that, since that is not allowed and can get you banned, mods here can also ban you from this server for discussing this topic
Smh
alr thx
ill wait until it comes
You admitted to breaking tos
@peak forge might have something to say about this
Modmail would have been more interested
As has been said, changing regions violates Terms of Service and is considered marketplace fraud. It's also not permitted for discussion here.
If people advise you to stop, do so.
Heyy is there an exact date when Flight Sim will be able to play on Cloud??? 😅😀
No
i wonder if there will be sly cooper games on xbox game pass 
Never. Sony doesn't care about that franchise, why should Microsoft either?
wow 😢
If the developer makes a deal with Microsoft to put their games on Game Pass, then they’ll be on Game Pass.
I don’t know if it’ll be soon, later, or if at all but I wouldn’t doubt the possibility
i'm not to up and up in the xcloud bugs, but any one get weird shimmering when playing a 360 title on pc? trying to play gears 2 and it is annoying
Hi, could somebody tell me if I can play Halo Infinite multiplayer on Xbox Cloud Gaming?
You can
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/play/search?q=halo+infinite Do you see the multiplayer version here? I just see the campaign version @wary nest
I haven’t tried it out on the app myself but no
I just turned my xbox on tho and it says that it has cloud play but the process itself is in beta
So that might be a system error
The multiplayer and the campaign versions launch from the same one, labelled as campaign on Cloud.
I didn’t launch a multiplayer session when I tested it but the option was there
yes you can i played it last weekend
Ahhhhh.. thanks 🙏 didn’t check it. Will have a look later
Does anyone knows when is cloud gaming coming to more countries?
nobody knows till Xbox announces something
how do you get cloud on ios
soooo surprise spelunky 2 is cloud enabled despite not having listed cloud previously
Still salty about mass effect tho ☹️
Highly upset about mass effect as well, there's really no excuse for that.and them not even acknowledging it I feel 8s kinda a slap in the face, but I got 3 months of gamepass left, I had went and renewed when they said it was coming, only to not get it. I'm debating canceling the sub tbh, really dissatisfied
And it really is misleading because on there website it says cloud as well, they so busy collecting money they need to change there descriptions, when I asked in there live stream on twitch, they just ignored the question altogether.
Like deliberately skipping on my question and directly replying to the next question.
But its cool, they getting cocky again, they are not the only gaming company in town and when this pandemic is truly over, there will be some changes coming I believe, sony and Nintendo ain't far behind.
Wait why are we mad about mass effect? Because it is going to be on game pass?
I don't understand either
I'm confused as well what the complaint is here
there wasn't even a question...?
oh that one isn't about us.... i used almost all the remaining mental energy I have to decide he was complaining about the hosts of a live stream with thousands of participants not answering every single question the second it flew by in the side bar
Wait let me decipher
.. / -.. --- -. .-..-. - / . ...- . -. / -.- -. --- .-- / -- .- -.
👍
oh okay.
big same to qwertyuiop here
Actually it is not on gamepass cloud and I was lead to believe it would be.
the store page doesn't indicate that it will be on cloud. it only indicates gamepass
And in the description when they "originally announced it, they made it seem as it would be available for all 3 platforms" hense the recent change
It was never announced for cloud
xbox one, xbox series, and pc
I'm not here to argue just stating a fact, you take it how you see it
not helping Louie.
"fact" is "what is written down"
"fact" is not "what i interepreted something I kinda thought i heard might have meant based on what I wanted it to mean"
It's actually explicitly called out that it's Console and PC only in the announcement
Anyway as I was told, it is what it is. As I said, pretty soon, things will be changing so, I'm not the only one that feels kinda underwhelmed in gamepass cloud. It's a good idea but needs tremendous work
So yall have a good one im up out of here. Ggs in the chat.
Provide feedback instead of vagueposting
I agree with one point you are making.
When the pandemic is fully over, there will be changes in the gaming world.
Things that have been slow and hard to develop, will absolutely accelerate and become even more awesome. (this includes things that are stuck waiting on hardware that is hard to get, like just increased datacenter capacity in general)
Because it's not on cloud 💀
But no, it never said cloud anywhere
And i BEG for better servers once it's over
The only thing im known for in this server is complaining
Stadia opened just before the pandemic and didn't release as a beta
Those servers are top notch
When will mod support finally release they announced it 3 months ago with the cloud
Yeah the last update what you could be referring to, was for PC Insiders where you were able to choose which drive to install to and not be stuck with the one folder it forced you to pick, and Mod support for more games.
how can I use a PS4 controller for cloud gaming
pc or xbox
You can’t on Xbox, but you can connect it via Bluetooth to your mobile device, or Bluetooth/Cable to PC.
Hey guys, I saw yesterday that PC players can now use the clarity boost without the edge canary.
Why after 2 months, Mobile players still can't use this option, even with the Edge Canary installed
Can someone help me?
about what
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"Fully over" hehe good one
hey why cant i hear the audio when I use remote play on my ipad
is the ipad on silent mode?
yeah, turn it off?
yup, that should unmute the audio
i did that, it didnt work
unsure, that's what fixes for me when the audio glitches. try relaunching the game?
is it because im using streamlabs
So I'm playing Forza on my phone, but every time I play I have to do the tutorial thing, is there a way to save? (Android)
did you finish the tutorial? it'll restart from the beginning if you didn't finish.
I assume so, unless it's longer than the 2 races
can i play games that i buy on cloud aswell?
No, only those on Game Pass Ultimate that are cloud supported
Ok can anyone help me download the app on iOS
Every time I goto the Xbox.com/play it keep saying it only available in selected regions while I am in verified region
cloud gaming isn't available in your region yet. Through Safari is the only way it can be played on ios as well
I looked at the region it says it’s verified in South Africa which is where I live
GPU is there, but not cloud gaming
Beuhhhhh
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/regions -> select xbox game pass, scroll down and see there's an x for south africa
Wait until we expand the service there
No
There isn’t
3 ticks and a X under the cloud gaming part
TESO is still unplayable with the disconnects during loadingscreens...
the best thing to ever happen to xbox
I just tried Cloud gaming on my Series X, seems fine but there is a bit input lag with controller, that's normal?
Depends, Try using your controller wired.
If it still has lots of input lag, then it’s just xcloud
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does anyone even know if rec room is getting to game pass
stupid question since almost no one knows
Isn’t rec room a f2p game?
I believe it is
Yeah it is.
Plus this is xbox-cloud-gaming chat, I’m assuming they are talking about it coming to xcloud.
It’s already on mobile, it’s on pc, and it’s on console
Ok, that’s what I thought.
The answer is no. Because it’s free and already available on multiple devices.
ok
Can someone be my friend
You can use #587074461770186765 to find people to play stuff.
Hello guys! Does anyone have the issue in playing Limbo trough cloud gaming? it's not starting with an erroe code
I have been a stadia founder since launch, but recently with the lack of games i started looking at other services and now that the news broke that Microsoft bought blizzard Activision i am thinking of switching to xcloud...
But i have a few questions
Does it run well on linux?
Can I use keyboard and mouse on computer? Or do I need to have a controller?
You need to have a controller.
Running well on Linux I cannot tell you, I have never tried it
It’s not playing locally, it’s streaming, so I’m assuming it runs depending on the capability of your connection…
We do have people that run it on Linux, however your results may vary and aren't guaranteed since it's not officially supported atm
I'm having problems with windows 10 app on xCloud. There only shows 133 games, to fix this I need to restart the app many many times, and sometimes I have a lot of image issues using the app. There is any way to fix this?
if you have 5ghz connection switch to that, less congestion
and xcloud is beta so it will lag
KB+M support seems like something that will probably happen eventually, but requires game support so it won't be universal even if it does. But for now, yeah, it's all controller.
You could presumably get away with an emulated controller though, I think there was something to do that (x360ce, was it?) but not sure if it works on Linux
yo i think they secretly improved servers
there was definitely an update, launching a game gives you a slightly different loading screen
it's not terrible anymore it's still a bit choppy but not full on interruptions 🙏
really?
yep, i don't have image perms but it's a slightly different spaceship and the beta logo changed
ill try
mine didnt change
😭
somebody plays fifa ?
can you speak german
bo
or english
english
ok can you help me to make my icon swaps
whats your name on xbox
anyone else who play fifa
Cloud gaming is awesome. Playing skate 3 on my phone, just one step closer to it being fully portable.
before i load up a game my controller works fine but after i open a game it wont register any button pressed
Anyone play bo3 zombies
is it a wireless or not
I have tried both with wireless and wired and there is the same issue
with wired:
try reconnecting it
like disconnecting it from the wire and putting it back
I have already tried that and it doesn’t work
then i dont know
Hi I’m having a problem when signing into xcloud for iOS this is the problem
It keeps on taking me to the support page how can I stop making it do that
What support page? What does it say?
Do you have game pass ultimate?
Are you using chrome or safari?
Are there any details you can provide?
I added it from safari and I was going to try the games which are free with out the gamepass
what games?
Just the free pens without gamepass
Well I did record a videos what it does but I can’t share it
Will there ever be beamNG for xbox?
only gamepass games are included in xcloud
you can try looking at geforce now if you want to try some other games
also xcloud requires a gamepass ultimate
geforce now has a free membership
will minecraft come to cloud gaming
perhaps.
i don't know if they said "all game pass games will be in cloud gaming" or not. But it is in game pass, and that is the first important step
It might but most likely just for computer devices not mobile
That’s how rumors spread. There’s no difference in pc and mobile cloud game. Both running console version, both uses a controller.
R6e doesn’t have the cloud enable tag, but it is on xbox cloud. I know someone asked about it a few days ago.
like putting games into game pass its upto the publisher, Xbox still need permission to put games into cloud which is why not everything is in there.
if it's on xcloud, it's on all xcloud supported devices
and sometimes games won't be announced for cloud but appear there anyway, like spelunky 2
still sad mass effect isn't an example
I’ve used it it is good I just wanted to try it well I’ll wait until I’m 17 for my car to get gamepass unlimited
well why do you need a car for gp?
Probably saying up for a car and then will get money for gp if I had to guess
when will cloud gaming be global

Because my dad only buys games so I’ll wait tell next year
why is halo and forza not on cloud gaming on console
It is, do you have the game installed? Installed game prioritize over cloud games.
random question: is it true that the bigger a game file is, the more likely it is to have issues displaying on xbox cloud gaming? like ive had that problem with fh5, dbd and nfs heat where the screen looks really choppy or whatever it is
doubt it, I've experienced more problems with tabs than stuff like just cause 4 and hitman
hey
What?
tf are you on about
#rules 💵 13. No buying, selling, or trading items/codes on the server. Do not ask for codes, handouts, or freebies either.
ok
nfts are stupid
I agree…
Me too
Count me in
what
man xcloud is so bad
i swear its like playing a game in 480p
atleast the inputlag is decent
It’s a beta.
well it doesnt work perfect for everyone i think
its like 1080p 60fps for me
It works, but there are so many little spikes of lag which sucks for online games.
xcloud isnt good for fast paced 1st person shooters or anything like that but is still good for other games
yo do i can somehow disable achievements notifications? sometimes i dont see subtitles
yes, in settings
in game settings or settings in xcloud app? im using xcloud on my phone and i cant find it
There's no way to get access to the settings app in xCloud, unfortunately.
If you could, you'd be able to change where the notifications come up too
oh my bad, I didn't realize what channel I was in!
Back 4 blood is insane
Yeah not a bad game that isn’t
Ikr
Its pretty good
Lol
@buoyant crag yeah. I like the game too. Gives memories of Left 4 Dead.
I have been having issues with cloud gaming. It says an error occured please try again later. I dont know what to do
Did you wait and try again later like it tells you to?
the servers are series x blades but I can't access series x/s exclusive options like ray tracing
well yeah that would be native only
rip
Cloud gaming needs work
its still Beta, multi-year project, still ISPs need to improve in most regions but games are still playable
When will cloud be available EVERYwhere?
Never
I think it requires 5g and 6g internet to become common for least amount of latency, high resolution and graphics streaming and being able to play competitive fps games on cloud
What is 6g? Is that even out?
That's 5G + covid vaccine microchip.
does cloud gaming use a lot of mobile data?
Yes.
Look up info on how much something like Netflix uses for HD (not 4k) streams. Because that's literally what it is - streaming video
What does cloud gaming even do?
Allows you to play on a phone, tablet or console.
what Apple devices work ** best ** ?
Depends more on the internet connection than the device, my two year old iPhone handles it just fine though.
Yo
Is there an easy way to get to the cloud gaming section on console?
I haven’t seen a specific cloud section as of yet. All the cloud games are in gamepass, so just look for the ones with the little cloud icon in the corner
Full Library > Xbox Game Pass > very first dropdown menu > Cloud Gaming
ah cool, guess there is a way to find those games...also explains why I haven't seen it before, lol
I hope Xbox is working on a shortcut or seperate app for the xbox consoles to search through just the cloud enabled games and allow us to favorite some of them.
you can favourite them though by adding into a group
you can then pin the group to the dashboard and it will stay there till you remove it
group can store a max of 200 games
that's what I've started to do. makes it super easy to find on the dashboard
ok cool, thanks
So now I'm paying for games that I kinda don't even play In my genre, but now games I find to play are a lag fest. Games audio is popping and really unplayable. Smh
Gives us the right to play our owned games digitally in the cloud. Fix the servers, currently in this state it is not Wirth $14.99 PLUS Tax a month.
its a variety of things, in my last house I couldnt play anything but I moved and now streaming is much better, saying "fix the servers" but you could be further away from a datacenter, its a multi year project and still "Beta". as for owned games this is why its part of Ultimate.
there are SeriesX blades in a datacenter its not going to know what games you own which is why the library is what it is.. you also have remote play which allows you to stream from own console to another device maybe thats what you are talking about.
if they did so that you could play the games you own digitality in xcloud
xcloud wouldnt be "free" anymore
you would need to pay for game pass and the games
I never said they couldn't explore that option to pay, and again cloud is not free now
they added Cloud into Game Pass Ultimate yeah, but the price hasnt changed
just extra value at this point
tbh i also wish they did something about servers, its always random on wether a game will run good or bad for me
Like just cause 4 gets hardly any problems, then tabs is the total opposite
I wish the revenue that came from 25 million subscribers went to better servers to take it out of beta instead of buying activision
activision is cool, but hopefully when microsoft starts banking off of them (or before, the sooner the better) xcloud becomes justified at $15 a month
i cant play any game because gamepads dont work
Try Razor Kishi, it's what I've found works good
this shouldn't be priced at $15 a month if they just are not gonna work on servers
it's like their selective at what times of day it works on, what it will work on, and what games are more consistent
I shouldn't get a perfect experience in just cause 4 then experience interruptions in doom 64 EVERY 5 SECONDS
25 million subscribers and they go for Activision 👎
are you going to ever stop with the negativity, literally everyday I come online and you complaining about something.
Activision bring them into the mobile space which they didnt have much of before. everything is happening for a reason.. Game Pass isnt a near future thing. they talking like 5-10-15 years from now.
Average is $10/month for other cloud services. You’re not force to pay xbox.
Its already cheap yet he's still complaining LMAO.
sharing criticism is bad now?
would you pay $15 a month to get a super inconsistent experience? or are you someone who praises it everywhere saying "its like playing local" because you live next to a server?
Its not even supported in my country LOL
I just use v*n and I still get a playable experience
I'm so far away from xbox servers but still get a decent ping
They have hundreds of games that I can play on mobile for 15$ a month so its good for me atleast idk about you.
vpn being against tos aside my internet isn't perfect either yet still meets requirements
Well I'm still not banned yet
I been using it for months now, I just use codes to renew it
Tbh stadia runs better than cloud gaming
sharing criticism is fine but atleast do it in the proper way by leaving feedback through the cloud gaming app
I rlly wanna try that since destiny 2 is free but the app is being not great and won't let me get past the optional stadia pro screen
Doesn’t show for me
when i sign into the mobile app it's not letting me proceed past a stadia pro subscription
I use it over the browser
I was playing madden 20 on cloud gaming and there was that line you see on 2000’s TV
will that work on mobile with a controller
the browser i mean
either way the browser is giving me the same thing i need to start a trial
Madden 20 unfortunately has audio and lagging issues really bad now it use to be really smooth.
I left feed back on the game, but it's been happening with alot of games now, unfortunately I won't be renewing my subscription until I here of better experiences.
Talking or venting In these forums about the issues do absolutely nothing. Want change? Speak with your wallet.
Not to mention it's 3 years old now and they have license to ea play but yet cloud can't play the updated title?
its upto the publisher if they want to include cloud for their games. always has been that way
Yes
well hopefully google stops begging for my wallet on a free to try service
alright sweet did a work around aaand its slightly better than xcloud imo
that's it rlly
why is xcloud fine in a browser but terrible on the mobile app
Likely depends on your phone and signal
both are constant.
its fine on the mobile app for me
if im close to the router and using 5 GHz Wifi
its pretty good even on the 2.4 GHz
Same, but I run it on cellular data, never WiFi
i dont get it??
theres fortnite for xbox one but why dont they allow for xcloud wtf??
xcloud only includes games on Xbox gamepass.
GeForce Now has Fortnite, play it on there.
anyone have the best vpn?
For cloud gaming? Sounds like more latency, I wouldn’t do it.
tunnel bear is a pretty good vpn but yeah vpn just makes more latency if youre gonna use cloud gaming
How do you get your mike working on cloud gameing?
I tried to enable my Mike I don’t know if you can only use Xbox heads I was trying to you my AirPods
Ok
it's $15 USD (or however much in your local currency), and includes so much more than just cloud gaming
do you have a PC?
Mac can also do cloud gaming through the website, and you can us PC gamepass if you have Bootcamp
(I also have Mac)
Bootcamp not available on arm mac
arm mac?
The newest macs are based on ARM
Bootcamp is not possible
It's only possible on x86
you mean instead of Intel?
ohhhh ok. Yeah, I got my iMac in 2020, so it still used Intel instead of the Silicon
well, that means my new laptop won't allow bootcamp then. shame
Yeah so for cloud gaming on web is not worth 13€/month
If you lose features that are worth 10€/month in that deal
If it did cost 5-8€ yeah sure
yeah I can understand that if you can't access any of the other features
If you have the newest macbook pro you might be able to use a windows vm
I have an Air
I mean you can have windows on it
But it's rather slow imo
You lose like 60% performance
eh, I don't do PC gaming, so I don't need it.
but yeah, bootcamp was sooooo slow when I had it on the iMac
And most games still don't work on it
yeah I just do cloud on the phone now, and it works fine
occasionally controller, but I mainly use the Backbone
there are no settings to change, so many different things with cloud that could cause that issue.
distance from nearest datacenter, ISP, Internet speed..etc I occasionally get the screen refresh wiping thing but I dont use cloud all that often. I just try out Game Pass titles and decide if I want to install to console.
its only SeriesX in the datacenter so I believe its just console versions for now
think there are plans to try add PC in the future but that Interview was just Phil Spencer I believe talking out loud, this year is more focused on trying to get an App ready for TV's
Hello everyone, I'm a og Xbox One owner, and I wanna try out cloud gaming. I also have a PC with like a i7 processor, 16 gb ram and a quite bad gpu.
However the question is, would it be better to do it on my og xbox one or on pc?
Also added bit of info: i would be interested in playing infinite and I've already played a good chunk of the game on xbox, can I use the same save and just go back on forth between cloud and regular xbox?
its streaming majority is just Internet needed, doesnt matter on the specs
and yes thats the beauty with game saves stored in the cloud you can jump between them
alright but would it be any different between doing it on my xbox or pc in terms of experience/result?
i was just wondering if one worked better than the other or it's just the same
best to try it out yourself its good that you dont need to download anything and the game has always the latest update, browser works well Xbox.com/play
alright I'll give it a try thanks
ok
Radu, have you tried another browser (I think Edge is recommended) to see if it’s just an issue with Chrome?
it shouldnt be that low, Xcloud article says its been bumped upto 1080p
it was originally 720p
anyone know when they gonna add the newer maddens to xcloud mobile?
they still need permission from the publisher and its upto them if they want to include those into cloud or not. so nobody knows till it happens
Sometimes it’s just being too far from their data center, not much you can do about that
its been happening to be recently
it's really annoying as i'm trying to play on browser, and I play on pc so I don't have a remapping application to use the app
how do y'all put up with this
Alr, thanks mate
lets not and thats why you are lagging so much, there are only 26 regions available, Xbox are trying to extend to other countries but it takes time.
using cloud when its not available to you is against Xbox ToS
but im in the US regardless
H
Is anyone down to play world war Z
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It's pretty bad how the servers have become at this. Just about any game you play starts out fine and litterally just gets worst and worst as you play.
Left feed back, but honestly I paid for ultimate and I feel like at this point, the cloud servers are litterally unplayable
Of course no refund. But no future renew subscription can fix that. I swear I hope sony or Nintendo come out with some form of mobile service...
cloud is in beta
Yeah its ultimate price Tag should be as well, but yet we have to pay full price...
Bad thing though? Someone did this...most if not all games ran flawless on cloud last year... imagine that...now it's just...smh
cloud beta is far from the only thing you get with Ultimate
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@hollow narwhal look, I have no pc, and no console. I payed for a product that they put in beta and charge me full price for, and even if it's in "beta" that's not an excuse for a product to not function properly.
that's exactly what a beta is
it's on you for not looking at what you were buying
Smh ok defend it all you like. I know ow how to handle this..
It’s like buying a happy meal and complaining you didn’t get enough condiments. You still get the burger, fries, and soda.
what do y'all recommend, i got a new isp and it works pretty fine now
so no more complaining i suppose
dear god someone has already taken my place
Complaining is fine. But there’s a line between feedback and whining.
aww the cloud keeps lagging for me, any tips?
Buy a new internet connection
🤣
Best Games?
Also when do u guys add new games?
I want warzone,gta5 lol
Lmao
Cloud is only Game Pass titles, Warzone is a free game, and GTA V has been in Game Pass twice.
i mean any tips but not buy a new connection?
Why'd they remove it? Also can i play custom games in the cloud?
Get a new isp
Because Rockstar agreed for the game to be featured on Game Pass for a set period of time and that time came to an end. Just the same as other third-party titles that are added to Game Pass.
its upto the publisher how long a game stays in Game Pass, and they also choose if they want to put games into cloud or just PC/Console
Ohk
So u can't play custom games u own on Xbox?
Say i bought a game on Xbox but i don't have an Xbox,can i play it?
no that would be through a different service called remote play, but you would still need a console for that as it would turn the console into a private server to stream onto another device.
Oh ok thx,i alr knew about remote play tho
i guess since my wifi is fine now my only real complaint about xcloud is that even though it's on series x blades, games don't take advantage of series x exclusive stuff like ray tracing
Smh
lol
i thought you left lol
Seems like RT is on when streaming FH5 to me 🤷♂️
Raytracing is only in the Autoshow when you can look around the cars. they dont have it in gameplay
well i can't turn on ray tracing for doom eternal, so it's definitely playing the xbox one version
That doesn't seem to change what I said 🤷♂️
I see, so it's not playing the series x enhanced version.. interesting.
i'll say the loadtimes are fine, but idk if it's on one loading times or series x so i don't have much to compare it to
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Nah I figured I stick around and look at the haters and there stupid comments 🤣
from personal experience, your the hater, it's in beta, or it's your wifi
Hmn I have 300 upload and download aint my wifi
i still get input lag, but that's because my upload speeds are just under requirements
then it's the beta, and/or too far from a server
Do you know the difference between Input lag and latency?
Seriously because that input lag would be a problem if I didn't use direct input. The latency is where if I were having server issues would be the problem.
You get latency when you use blue tooth devices etc
I'm not.
then it's probably congested. are you using 2.4 or 5 hertz?
5g sir
neither am i, and like i said, i still get input lag
are other devices like smart tvs or phones using the same connection?
again, beta
Yes I know its beta, but are you familiar with a program called AetherSX2? Well let's just say before I was signed into that "tester" program, I was made aware what it would Intel. Latency, input lag the whole 9, with beta on xbox hmn I didn't have to sign anything, I just handed over money and wa Lai! Lag lol
It's whatever I know its beta and I know what that means, I just wish they where more upfront about there business.
Ultimate encompasses MANY advantages, and only select ones are Beta. We are clear about those.
What about those games? The streaming portion of the service is beta
There not playable on cloud!
And?
Or excuse me..there really laggy
Just because they're laggy for you doesn't mean it's the same for everyone. There's a LOT of components between you and the servers, some of which are under YOUR control.
Is it my understanding that gamepass ultimate works as playable through mobile or just console?
Gamepass ultimate grants the ability to download games for console and PC that are part of the service and play locally, as well as the current beta implementation of streaming to PC, mobile, and console from the cloud
the streaming portion is in beta
Would you get this hissy if you were paying for your cable, they added new channels for no cost, marked them as beta, and had problems with those beta channels?
All the previous channels offered are fine
Hmn so let's see.. I use a input only controller device, im using a very stable internet connection and a highly standard mobile device? Unless I'm highly confused Netflix, hulu, and other streaming platforms have rhe same capabilities for less.
All those are 1 way streaming, you don't see latency
There's no upload involved with them.
So xbox has to upload the server to connect to my connection stream lined?
And there's nothing to say your wireless signal isn't bouncing around and having good and bad portions
Your input is being uploaded to the server...
to then be handled by the game running in the cloud, to then return the image to you
it's travelling TWICE the network hops that any of those video streaming services you mentioned do
not to mention, they can do bulk transfer (here's a block of 30 seconds of video / audio)
Games can't do that
completely different technologies
because your input has to be sent to the game
so if your "very stable internet" connection has a ping of 150 ms to the servers, guess what? 300 ms from when you give an input until you see it on your screen.
Ok that makes since, and I appreciate you giving some real advice on the situation and not just another snob remark
And now that you explained that I truly understand now because I was thinking it was more on the services I mentioned
I even purchased the razor kishi thinking it was not a strong enough connection
There's 1 connection between your controller and your mobile device (that may or may not be wireless, depending on the device you're using)
and so there can be some latency there
but then all that has to be sent to the server still
But my lack of having a pc or console really limits me and really sounds like the money Investing into this can be used towards one of the 2 for a more complete stable solution
When I signed up to this, I was in the understanding I could bypass purchasing a computer or console and just use the service until I could save up to purchase something
But now I see it's really wasting the money especially since this is the only device I have, and like you said it takes alot more power which I really don't have, I was thinking beta was more grounded then it is, for consoles and pc owners it's a great investment not so much for a person of my stature, so thanks for explaining. My subscription is up in March and I'll just save on from there.
i think it was pretty clear when they stamped the beta logo on there. Unless you need a dictionary?
we need a beta bot command like we have for spam
Mute function is a great tool 🔧 🙂
are you asking to be muted? I don't understand
Will cloud gaming be coming to nz
what is nz
New zealand
couldn't tell you then
:(
But some games dont need live gold
I bought game pass
Normal?
not ultimate
Xbox console
Then you need to also get Gold, or upgrade to Ultimate
Oof
how to upgrade it?
I spent much money for game pass
but I didn't know that I can't play online with it
Go to the page for Game Pass Ultimate and buy it.
That will upgrade your current subscription to Ultimate.
so what about game pass I've bought already
?
can I get my money back?
It will be converted to Ultimate.
how?
Automatically.
No, your current Game Pass time will become Game Pass Ultimate time.
I said this already.
😭
I'm not sure what the issue is here. You're not losing anything. You're actually coming out better off, because you'll get more for what you paid.
I bought game pass for 3 months
now you advise me to pay much more money, but I will not get money I paid before back
Okay, I'm going to explain this one more time and then I'm done.
You have 3 months of Game Pass for Console.
You now pay for 1 month of Game Pass Ultimate. If it's your first time that will be only $1/£1 (whatever your currency is).
Your 3 months of Game Pass will be converted to Game Pass Ultimate. So you will end up with 4 months of Game Pass Ultimate. (3 converted months + the 1 month you're paying for now).
You have not lost anything, you have only gained because you are getting those 3 months converted to something better.
so u mean I should buy game pass ultimate for 1 month?
That's what I said, yes.
Go and see what it tries to charge you. I don't know what the pricing is in every region.
But typically the first month is heavily discounted.
so where should I buy it?
let me check
I met website
they say I can't make a purchase
try again
what if I used game pass ultimate once, but my friend gave me it and he paid for it, I still will need to pay 1$ only? @peak forge
No, it will be full price.
😡
ok, thank you
for your help
well, so what if I buy game pass ultimate now? @peak forge
I've already told you what will happen.
@peak forge so are u sure about if I buy it now I'll have 4 months of game pass ultimate exactly?
Please stop tagging me.
ok
I've explained the process multiple times. I'm not explaining it any more.
wait
just answer this question please
I want to be sure
Then go and read the previous answers again.
what Rhinne is saying is correct
I have told you three times already. Paul also just told you.
and I'll go
Are u sure?
Stop asking. You have been told enough times.
I am backing up what Rhinne is saying so he doesnt have to repeat himself anymore.
No, not again
All of the information is there for you above. Read it again, pay attention. No need to ask again.
I buy now 1 Month of ultimate, and when I use it, I have 4 months of ultimate automatically, are u sure?
I ask, because it sounds strange
why cant i see cloud gaming on xbox game pass? i did all the updates and did the xbox insider hub already
Do you have Ultimate, and do you live in an area that supports cloud?
No problem, hopefully they will soon
When will I be able to play shooters without being 10 seconds behind my input?
app i get input lag to the point where it's noticeable but that's my wifi, it's still under a second tho, browser needs work definitely
when it leaves beta
Hope it’s soon! I’m ready to enjoy traveling again! 😂
leaves Beta ? that be years away
how come?
its a long term goal, multi-year project always expanding. attempting to reach new markets. this has been said before in their articles. this years plan is to put apps onto TV and hopefully we see that a cloud stick is being worked on.
What will cloud stick do @warped vault ?
you know like those streaming sticks that have been around, just this one is for Xcloud
Oh that's pretty cool, I wonder will our owned games will be in the plan, one can hope
Or even purchase and play from xcloud
think PC games could be the next thing, Phil Spencer tweeted about it last year, but they focused on console for now.
that comment was like April
Yeah I like Phil, he's a good dude, he's trying
Best cloud experience ngl,no wait,high speed load time,easy controls,n more!,all from my phone just for 1$!
All i would recommend,is to add pc games,n prob ability to play games that u own outside of game pass (ik u can do w/remote play but my 0$ wallet is too cool to buy an Xbox , but plot twist I'm poor 😎.
man what games are good
battlefield V definitely isn’t, too many hiccups and when there is too much action the delay gets too much
If you are looking for games to play, try sea of thieves, and snowrunner.
nier automata star wars jedi fallen order and dead space are pretty good
Man is it worth getting an xbox
Depends. Do you want to play PlayStation or Xbox exclusives?