pc-gaming

[azure flicker]

ummm amd 7 3700 is 8th gen right?

[full flint]

Secure Boot is fully on, too.

Firmware TPM 2.0 has been in CPUs since Skylake (for Intel) and Zen (for AMD).

[full flint]

Ryzen 7 3700 is 3rd gen AMD CPU. It's fully supported by W11.

Provided, you enable TPM2.0 and Secure Boot in your BIOS.

[azure flicker]

ugh this is trouble some

[full flint]

Considering that W11 really is just a big update for W10, I agree.

For something so similar, the requirements have basically killed off about 80% (50-60% for the edge cases like TPM2 compatible cpu gens) of the W10 user base.

[smoky flame]

I don't think my old 6700K had TPM 2.0 and that was with a high end motherboard at the time, the Asus Z170 Maximus VIII Hero Alpha. I think I dabbled in TPM a little back then but knew so little. What I did find out was that motherboard had no TPM module connector

[full flint]

It did not.

[full flint]

there's actually a good bit under the hood

It's a more efficient system, and is only 64-bit. has a new thread-scheduler, and it's lighter on the system

think about the efficiency boost from 8.1 (or 7) to 10

[smoky flame]

well, at least one thing. Those that want W11 should be able upgrade with relative ease to a more supported hardware config. CPU stock doesn't seem too bad

[full flint]

plenty of 5800X and 3700X to go around for sure

[smoky flame]

last I kept up to date with it all RAM prices were on the up and Chia may affect NVMe SSDs. Big elephant in the room remains the state of GPUs

[full flint]

So... no more 32bit apps support?

[full flint]

apps will be supported. hardware will not

compatibility will still be there

[smoky flame]

I wonder if AMD will enable GPU Scheduling on their GPUs by the time Windows 11 is out in the public. Could mean AMD users have GPU Scheduling, DirectStorage and Smart Access Memory (SAM) all enabled should the requirements for each be met

[full flint]

@smoky flame I could help you search for it, if you want.

[full flint]

@ruby spear https://twitter.com/Tsukumo_netshop/status/1409403079598870531?s=20

ツクモネットショップ (@Tsukumo_netshop)

Making

#DeathStrandingPC
#505Games
#TSUKUMO
#AMD
https://t.co/4yy26bHqEr

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Twitter · Jun 28, 2021, 6:47 AM

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-starving-anime-drooling-girl-gif-15974467

that's clean

[ruby spear]

Nice

[smoky flame]

what CPU is that in there? that stock AMD cooler going to be running hot and loud

[full flint]

click the link. it goes to the product's page

5600X and 5800X

Wraith will be fine

[smoky flame]

that is true, at least for stock use. Overclocking would be out of the question though and the cooler itself will still be pretty loud. Nothing curve optimizer couldn't correct I'm sure

[full flint]

you really don't need to OC ryzen

it has its own natural OC curve that's more than sufficient

[smoky flame]

I'm including PBO in OC seeing as that isn't stock spec. Really not sure I see that much of a point in PBO when PB2 is doing just fine with the CPUs at stock

[smoky flame]

any idea what time the Windows 11 insiders build goes live?

[full flint]

this week, but no one knows the exact date

[viral crest]

5800x has no stock cooler lol

[smoky flame]

cool, I'm going to give it a go. Already registered to the dev build and updated to that. So just a waiting game now. Quite excited to get a look at Windows 11. Hopefully see DirectStorage in action. Already had the chance to check out Auto HDR with whatever dev build I got updated to

[viral crest]

It also tends to run warmer than others depending on use.

We just upgraded our Chia plotting rig to a 5950x from the 5800x

[smoky flame]

5950X

[full flint]

Hi sub

[viral crest]

Yea you can't run a stock cooler on those lol

Gotta use an AIO or nice air cooler

[smoky flame]

yeah, I know that. Pretty sure the air cooler I use could handle even the 5950X at stock. What's the power draw on one of these CPUs at stock again?

[viral crest]

Looks like 150 at stock

I was going to use the 5800x but I think for now I'll keep my 3600 haha

We need to recoup some of our investment.

You have any luck with your GPU trade? @smoky flame

[smoky flame]

didn't do a GPU trade. Instead went all in and bought a 6800 XT. Got a Red Devil for £1200. Talk about making a deal with the devil, right? 😅

[viral crest]

Oh nice! hopefully you were able to sell the other one? haha

[smoky flame]

not yet but working on that, yeah

[viral crest]

Awesome. 😄

[haughty cloak]

what do I do here?

[full flint]

You type words

[viral crest]

talk about PC gaming lol

[civic pumice]

Go find out how to build

[storm lantern]

Ngl I broke my laptop

[viral patio]

I play genshin impact

[full flint]

hey guys why does it say network connectivity blocked?

ping me asap

[swift verge]

my friend are trying to download halo 3 : odst on pc but he don't want to download entire mcc which is gonna took him 180 gb

and i just want to know how to download only just halo 3 : odst on pc pls

[full flint]

if it's not on steam, he can't download specific games

MS Store only allows for the whole MCC to be downloaded

[shadow rapids]

so I have a question

[ruby spear]

You going to ask it?

[full flint]

Ikr?

[full flint]

https://youtu.be/s_K7Kpt7X84

[obsidian bobcat]

#rules 💵 13. No buying, selling, or trading items/codes on the server. Do not ask for codes, handouts, or freebies either.

[full flint]

So experiementing with 11 and holy hell! I see up to 50% performance increase on games

And this is just an early build, it'll be insane when it gets released

That’s dope

[full flint]

Gimme the benches

This means nothing without the benches!!!!

[dreamy rune]

Hey... uhm... I'm embarrassed to ask, what's a good game I can play on my potato of a pc?

[full flint]

We’d need to know just how potato it is really

You could probably play Halo MCC and play at least the first 3 games since they range from 20-13 years old

[dreamy rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602906685073260564/853826814493327360/unknown.png this is the only way Yakuza can run on my PC

[analog sapphire]

https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/

[viral crest]

That's good to hear. I just need Bungie and AMD to play nice. haha

[late badge]

yea you need mcc for any halo

[severe shale]

Hi, why the controller doesn't reconnect when it turnoff in game? is there a solution for that ?

[final wigeon]

You need to use a Samsung charger cord and connect it to you pc

Or bluetooth

[smoky flame]

sorry for the ping but AMD's recent driver 21.6.1 seemed to have improved Destiny 2 performance or so I heard anyway. 21.6.2 is also available now

[viral crest]

Yes! Thank you. I'm about to install it.

[smoky flame]

enjoy!

[viral crest]

I'm hearing good things xD

I may need to look into installing this 5800x we have and upgrading my RAM. Just for fun, ya know. LOL

[smoky flame]

what you on just now?

[viral crest]

I have the 3600 and 16GB ram

[smoky flame]

ahh nice. RAM might be ok still, unless you are talking higher capacity

[viral crest]

If I upgrade the CPU though I may need a better cooler 😛

Yea just more. I want 32GB

For work I do a lot of design stuff and that'll just make it smoother

[smoky flame]

cool. I went with 32GB and I think it may be a bit on the overkill side for me haha. Don't think I've seen any game past 16GB yet lol

though scary enough I have seen one game use nearly all 16GB VRAM on my 6800 XT. Never thought The Division 2 was that hungry. RAM usage was about the same, 13GB on both

[viral crest]

Wow! That's impressive.

I think it's running smoother 👀

[viral crest]

Def better so far!

pvp is not doing so hot 😂

[surreal moss]

@torn reef please do not cross post in channels

[autumn sluice]

Dont use can you run it. It is notorious for being wrong at least 70% of the time

[autumn sluice]

11?

[full flint]

Windows 11

[full flint]

I wish I could game on my pc

Smh

[buoyant orbit]

anyone wanna play bedrock minecraft with me?

[viral crest]

Okay, it's working now in crucible...I uninstalled some extra software and I'm not sure if that helped but I'm not complaining. 😛

[fathom mirage]

anyone here familar with xbox game bar?

My party widget is bugging out

[thick hemlock]

anyone know why game bar constantly says my controller is low battery? using official play and charge and game bar says its low but bluetooth says its 100%

[jagged osprey]

Guys what will happen if i overclock my cpu on a laptop?
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.30 GHz

8th Gen

[smoky flame]

CPU will get warmer, likely throttle too if it gets too warm. I'd never overclock a laptop CPU

[jagged osprey]

That's what am thinking bad idea

[jagged osprey]

my cpu is already very hot

[full flint]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/253406957019463681/860145505120157706/video0.mp4

It’s relevant to the laptop discussion

[cosmic swan]

yo

so why does it say if i buy game pass ultimate (witch i did) i get ea play? but when i try to download an ea play game i have to pay??

[full flint]

are you using the EA Desktop app?

[cosmic swan]

no, i'm using the xbox app, witch then redirects me to the ea app

it always says i have to pay 3,99£, when i should just have ea play with the game pass -_-

[cosmic swan]

well, i just bought ea play since i didn't bother to get it to work -_-

[calm copper]

Am I the only onw

who dislikes EA

[full flint]

Do you really think you’re the only person that dislikes them?

People have been doing the big poopy on them for over a decade for their poopy practices. That better you darn tootin bot?

[carmine path]

anyone here that has windows 11,how is it and is it worth it to buy?

[pearl wave]

Considering that only one pre-release build has been made available to Windows Insiders thus far, it's hard to make a fair assessment. Plus, Windows 11 will be a free upgrade for Windows 10 users as long as your hardware supports it.

[full flint]

Hey guys I have a question about xbox controllers

A few years ago I bought the xbox one controller with the wireless adapter. Now I'm looking to buy another controller as my current one has stopped working. Can I use another xbox one controller that will work with my adapter?

[rose river]

anyone know if the streets of rage 4 dlc will be part of GP?

[carmine path]

okay.😁

[blissful jungle]

is there a steelseries headset that supports xbox and pc mic inputs? which is the cheapest?

[pearl wave]

I use the Arctis 5. @blissful jungle

It's USB for PC, but you can get a separate 3.5mm cable that'll go from the controller directly to the headset. The only drawback is you don't get the RGB lighting when playing on Xbox.

[blissful jungle]

thx, i have ss credit to spend.

[blissful jungle]

also whats the diff between the 5 and 3, no rgb?

[pearl wave]

I'm not sure of the exact differences. I picked mine up about a year ago and had looked into it at the time but my memory is hazy now.

Not sure if there's a difference in sound quality or not. I can vouch for the Arctis 5's though. They sound nice. Especially if you pick up a Dolby Atmos license and enable it on your Xbox or Windows PC.

It's $15 for the Atmos license, but because you can pick it up via the Microsoft store it works between Xbox and PC, so you only buy it once.

[blissful jungle]

oh good to know.

3 and 5 are like about a $35 difference.

[pearl wave]

From what I can tell looking up the two side by side is the Arctis 3 lacks RGB and that chat mixer dial that comes included with the Arctis 5.

Basically a little knob you can use to tune out the in game audio to focus in on just chat, or vice versa.

If neither of those things are important to you, then the 3 should probably work just fine for you.

I only nabbed the 5 because my KB/M setup is RGB so I wanted it to match, lol.

[blissful jungle]

looks like amzn has refrub 5s for $60.

i think you're right though, the 3 doesn't have atmos option and 5 does

[pearl wave]

Well, the 5 has DTS, which is different.

[blissful jungle]

oh its the 2019 model, does that matter?

[pearl wave]

The Arctis 3 would still support Dolby Atmos. It's a software surround sound solution, so most headsets would support it.

And no, that could just be the last revision they released.

Yeah when I go to Steelseries website and navigate to the Arctis 5 product page, it comes up as the 2019 edition. So that's probably the last time they updated the hardware.

[blissful jungle]

oh good idea

[blissful jungle]

website only says the 5 does ps5 with usb not xbox.

[pearl wave]

Correct. USB on Xbox doesn't work. However the Arctis 5 comes with a 3.5mm adapter.

So the chat mixer dial is what connects to your PC via USB. And then there's a proprietary Steelseries cable that goes from your headset to the chat mixer.

You unplug that cable from the chat mixer and into the 3.5mm adapter, and then the adapter into your Xbox controller.

This is why you lose RGB on Xbox, since you can't connect the headset via USB, so you have no power source for the RGB.

[blissful jungle]

does it only do output sound with xbox controller or does the mic work too?

[pearl wave]

The mic works, too.

[blissful jungle]

ok i was looking for the 3.5mm adapter but couldn't find anything on the SS website

[pearl wave]

It comes with the headset.

[blissful jungle]

so i can buy any male to male 3.5 cord?

[pearl wave]

You don't need to.

You get the chat mixer (which connects to your PC via USB), a Steelseries cable that connects your headset to the chat mixer, and the 3.5mm adapter.

You just take the Steelseries cable and disconnect it from your chat mixer, and connect it to the 3.5mm adapter instead.

There's no need for an additional male to male cord.

[blissful jungle]

ah ok, thanks.

[pearl wave]

If you order through the Steelseries website, there's apparently a coupon code you can use to get 10% off.

NEWSLETTER10

Guessing you just type that in at checkout.

SHOCK12 or SOON12 for 12%

(Thanks Microsoft Edge) lol

[blissful jungle]

oops, i just ordered refurb ones from amzn for $70. they arrive saturday.

[pearl wave]

Hey no worries either way. Grats on the purchase! I think you'll enjoy them. They are pretty lightweight too and are very comfy. So they're good for long sessions.

[tepid fable]

Canada day rgb

[raven hull]

peppermint

[hardy ferry]

hey could someone help me with some monitor issues

[covert zealot]

im tryna run forza horizon 4 (on pc) but it crashes on launch. Any suggestions?

[autumn sluice]

Run as admin

[blissful jungle]

@pearl wave , got the 5's in today. they are poggers! plus with the DTS and Atmos addons make them elite. question, will the license through the Windows store work on both Win10 and Xbox or do you have to buy twice?

[pearl wave]

You only buy once. And make sure you use only DTS or Atmos. They are both virtual surround sound options.

If you buy Atmos then use that instead of DTS.

[blissful jungle]

which is better?

for xbox series x and win10 with arctis 5?

i think DTS because i only use it for gaming and discord chatting.

[pearl wave]

You can use Atmos on Xbox and Windows 10. My opinion is that Atmos is better quality and more widely supported than DTS.

So if you don't mind shelling out the few bucks for Atmos it's worth it IMO

[raven hull]

Just wait for a sale. They come now and then.

The default audio is good if you not an audiophile.

[blissful jungle]

ty!

[steel lion]

Is this what Xbox had become too

[full flint]

im having troublw with game pass

can anyone help

[pale spoke]

I don't think audiophiles would care for atmos for headphones? Like they'd rather have sound in stereo
Or am I missing something here

[raven hull]

Yes and no. Yes stereo when it comes to music, because music isn’t in a 3D space. A true Atmos system is expensive, but is completely immersive. In gaming, the world is computer created. So using a headset to create an artificial 3D space for the artificial 3D world isn’t the must have for audiophiles. But it’s better than not having it. In short, using a headset isn’t an audiophile’s recommendation. But if you’re to use one for gaming, atmos is better than no atmos.

[pale spoke]

I tried it before on my old PC honestly couldn't tell much of a difference

[raven hull]

It’s advertise as any headphones, but I don’t believe it. It’s like the HDR of audio. If you don’t have a device that supports it, just won’t see (in this case, hear) the difference.

[pale spoke]

I tried on my PC I have now I noticed a bigger difference

then again it also has a dolby equaliser

[smoky flame]

I don't touch stuff like equalizers, even for games. Would prefer the audio to sound as it was meant to (no enhancements) and that I fear makes me a bit of an audiophile though I am opening up to trying Dolby Atmos

[pale spoke]

I like to keep the sound as normal too

[smoky flame]

just done playing some Ghost Recon Breakpoint and my 6800 XT makes light work of even that. 100-130 FPS with maxed settings at 1440p. Seems only ray tracing it really struggles in. I love this GPU!

[smoky flame]

ok, quick update on Ghost Recon Breakpoint. There was a setting I had enabled (is enabled by default) called temporal injection that behaves like a checkerboard renderer. Since disabled it and FPS lowered to around the mid-80's but all still perfectly playable in my books

[woeful bone]

Who wants to play Roblox or Minecraft this evening at 1 AM EST? Dm me. Pls

[obsidian bobcat]

If you're looking for someone to play with, please go to #587074461770186765

[leaden fog]

hi

[silent karma]

If I wanted to play Halo 4 player splitscreen co-op, would it work if I had 4 different screens?
or will it just split screen on one monitor

[sonic sleet]

idk if this is the right channel but how do you use cloud gaming on pc?

[autumn sluice]

browser

[hidden kiln]

how to connect xbox 360 controller to pc

[sonic sleet]

i dont think you can do that or you will need a adapter and a cord for the controller

[autumn sluice]

cord

[fleet spire]

dm me your gamertags if you want to play ligit survival with me

@dusky cloak

[rough bay]

Yo anyone knows if the dolby atmos for headphones thing on the dolby access app is worth it?

[full flint]

@smoky flame is the update out for AMD PC's yet? The one that can improve FPS?

[full flint]

It is super worth it.

[smoky flame]

no driver update was required for FSR but yeah, there's been two drivers out since. 21.6.1 and 21.6.2. What GPU did you have again?

[full flint]

RX 580 8GB

Debating on using/updating it.

[smoky flame]

ahh all good then. AMD removed support for pre-Polaris GPUs with 21.6.1. FSR just requires a game to support it and update to include the feature. List of games is very limited for now but should improve towards the end of the year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_FSR_support

[full flint]

One monitor only. And that is for console.

PC does not have splitscreen.

[rough bay]

I'll props get it then

[full flint]

Yessir

[ashen stirrup]

I'm looking for some help. I have two different Xbox One controllers that I use on my PC via the controller adapter or bluetooth. The right analog stick does a lot of drifting on both of them. Leads me to believe it's not the controllers. (Different version numbers.) I could be wrong of course and was wondering if anyone had any ideas or troubleshooting tips to get this drifting to go away because playing Forza Horizon 4 has become enraging with the camera flicking all over the place.

One of them is model 1697, the other is model 1708.

[ashen stirrup]

Ok, well, figured it out I think at least for now. Found the "Xbox Accesories" app on the windows store, installed that and wired both controllers up one at a time and updated the firmware on one, the other was already at it's latest firmware. Both of them seem to be behaving now and I can drive without the camera flicking around now.

[dusk charm]

is anyone using windows 11? cause I need help

[pastel mirage]

can my 1080 60p Samsung tv do 60 fps?

[smoky flame]

what's up?

[umbral meadow]

Guys, what's the Max yall would pay for a 1660 Ventus OC

@me with what y'all would think they would cost brand new right now

[raven hull]

If you mean 1080 60 hz. Then yes, 60 frames.

[fiery niche]

can sumone help me with donlading micrsoft fligh sim on pc

[timid tapir]

wut

[devout estuary]

I just played the weirdest game in all of history,

And I regret something

[sonic sleet]

cant you just do it from the microsoft store

[young canopy]

[surreal moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418147279103328276/861701200848224256/video0-3-1-2.mp4

[full flint]

Is that not the correct way to assemble the parts?

[magic wraith]

It hurts in me 😂

[spiral sluice]

why. My brain hurts just watching it

[lusty marsh]

my pc keeps crashing when im playing games for no reason can someone please help me?

[full flint]

You look at crash logs?

And you smell burning plastic?

[lusty marsh]

no how do i check crash logs

[quiet agate]

-/

[waxen wharf]

hello

[modern relic]

hey i've noticed when playing with controller my windows key gets disabled, any way i can get it re enabled again? using an xbox sx controller

[true saffron]

hey guys so i have an xbox one s, i usually play on tv but how to play on my pc

[swift smelt]

when i use xbox game bar to clip footage, it doesnt record xbox party chat audio

[autumn sluice]

Never has

[winged sage]

is the game pass ultimate pc is $1 for three months for the first time?

[viscid fossil]

The game bar sort of sucks if I am being honest. Shadow play or OBS are better options if you want to record clips.

[smoky flame]

something seems off with this Fire Strike result... Check the specs of the premium gamping PC (2020) for comparison my system has a 5600X CPU and 1x 6800 XT

[surreal moss]

3950x was not as geared towards gaming as the 5th gens are

It’s beefy but it’s slow

Your 5600x is a better cpu for the majority of games

Also does the test even take advantage of SLI?

[dense silo]

Hello, could anyone help me with xbox game bar? I am in general discussion

[smoky flame]

I tested fire strike extreme and ultra versions after and it does seem this premium gaming pc does eventually get the upperhand over my system but not by much and yeah I doubt fire strike makes much, if any use of SLI but the same can be said for so many games anyway so it is fairly accurate

[full flint]

it has a single gpu, so it doesn't.

[surreal moss]

What

[modern relic]

yo if there's any DXWnd wizards out there - is there a way to force enable the windows key on older games?

[sour bridge]

Does GTA V run well on an Fx-8300 and a GTX 1050?

[full flint]

It’ll run. But you’ll have to turn quite a bit down

[full flint]

it should, with the right settings.

I myself found some settings that even on a GTX 760 and a i5 6600K, I stay above 60FPS all time in SP.

and it includes setting textures to Very High 🥶

[full flint]

What is your definition of “lightweight”?

The larger the case the bulkier the cooling

It’s a situation of either or

[full flint]

uhh. probably a ryzen 5000 series and an nvidia 30 series

but honestly, it's not going to be cheap

even moreso than usual

[full flint]

and getting a slim one with those specs will cost you quite an amount of bucks

[full flint]

1. a grand or two
2. Because AMD has basically just went and turned over, they're much more powerful and cheaper than Intel's respective (in games, the 5000 series are actually ahead of Intel and they MULTIPLY Intel's performance in workloads

[smoky flame]

worst part is laptops aren't going to be cheap full stop. They tend to cost even more than desktop counterparts and often have worse performance due to being mobile. Not a lot that can really be done about that. I'd imagine even trying to keep a laptop cool is a lost cause while gaming

[smoky flame]

https://www.techpowerup.com/284302

[peak remnant]

after signing in to the xbox website i get stuck on the loading screen

[devout canyon]

wrong server

[cedar smelt]

Please can it be available for that price, rather than treble?

[smoky flame]

I doubt that unfortunately but things do seem to be improving slowly so it might not be treble the price

[dusk charm]

I honest to god hate the start menu of windows 1

[autumn sluice]

Well yea its the first windows

[dusk charm]

what? the ui is like the first windows?

[autumn sluice]

Smh

[dusk charm]

ohh I meant windows 11.....

[vernal zinc]

GTA 5 Online runs on my low profile GT430 1gb on 40fps

but everything is down, and frame scaling was 1/3 i think

0.75

any ideas what should i add here?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/814865818012876830/862775593090678814/2021-07-08_22.19.52.png?width=800&height=640

[livid sun]

Is it worth for me to switch over to xbox series s from pc? These are my specs:
Gpu - gtx 1060 3gb
Cpu - Ryzen 5 2600
Ram - 16gb 2x8 3000mhz ddr4
500 m.2 ssd & 500hdd

[raven hull]

Why is it a switch? Just have both.

[full flint]

maybe he wants to sell some/all of the parts to fund the series?

[raven hull]

Then no. Not worth to sell to buy.

[autumn sluice]

At those specs might be worth the series x

[gusty abyss]

quick question for you guys and gals, I am not getting the allow my voice to an xbox party chat to stream box. Is there a way to make that option appear again ?>

i am on pc joining an xbox party chat livestreaming

typically there is an allow voice to be captured box but it isnt there

[split sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/243035352187666448/862949622745792532/FB_IMG_16258064357439101.jpg

[smoky flame]

https://youtu.be/mwj0GbbQZqU this will be an interesting watch...

[mystic spindle]

im having a problem

i downloaded a game from the Microsoft store and it wont work

i got it free bc i have it on xbox

[tawny anvil]

hi guys, my GPU is getting 104C in minecraft, thats not good right?

[rough bay]

No, that is too hot, make sure to clean your pc/laptop on the inside and check if fans are working, also make sure not to put the device on a rug or anything, normal gpu temps should be between 70-80 with highs of 80-90

[tawny anvil]

I think the curtains were blocking the side out take for a bit

but both CPU and GPU are hot

ok it dropped a bit in temperature now I moved the curtain

[smoky flame]

what CPU and GPU is this?

[tawny anvil]

10900K & RTX 3090

[smoky flame]

dang! yeah something must definitely be up with the 3090 to be getting that hot. Any idea what model of 3090 it is?

[tawny anvil]

founders edition

[smoky flame]

hmm that should be able to keep the GPU relatively cool, not have it sit at 104C that is crazy. Not even sure Nvidia's limits allow that

[tawny anvil]

its junction temp, thats the hot spot right?

I use HWinfo to read it

[smoky flame]

oh juction temp!

that explains it now, yeah I wouldn't worry too much about that. I ignore that reading for the most part on my 6800 XT

[tawny anvil]

ah ok great!

The card got REALLY loud and the case is very hot so I got a bit worried

[smoky flame]

what's the temps like on the other reading?

[tawny anvil]

60c on CPU

the normal GPU temp is 78c

[smoky flame]

that is typical temperatures those. Could create custom fan curves for the CPU cooler and GPU if you want to lower that further but the trade off will be noise

[tawny anvil]

I use the lian li uni fans and I cant seem to change the curve too much

I just put them on 800rpm as its the lowest they go

I was thinking of adding the EKWB waterblock with memory cooling but I'm not sure how hard that would be

[smoky flame]

water cooling is expensive and will require some maintenance over time. Should you ever face a leak it could wreck your whole PC. Air cooling is fine as it is

[tawny anvil]

ah ok gotcha

I hoped it would be more quiet doing that

but yeah one leak and all my equipment is fried

[smoky flame]

it would be quiet for sure but cost and risk aren't worth it unless you can afford to potentially replace components should the risk expose itself. Could always get AIO coolers. CPUs have them and so do GPUs. It is a mix of air and liquid cooling, hence the all in one but doesn't require any maintenance. Can be costly still though with these coolers coming in at least £100+ for something decent on the CPU, not so sure about the GPU

[tawny anvil]

I got a NZXT z63 AIO right now for the cpu

[smoky flame]

nice

[tawny anvil]

I wouldn't mind spending 600-800 for watercooling the entire system but maintenance seems annoying & I really dont wanna replace the components

I want to use this system for atleast 4 more years

[smoky flame]

yeah, that is some system!

[tawny anvil]

how would those GPU aios work?

I have never seen them

[smoky flame]

some come as kits, Corsair used to do them where you take the existing cooler off and apply new thermal paste along with attaching the GPU to the new cooler but idk who or what does these things now, if anyone. 3090 under AIO conditions would be a monster

[tawny anvil]

gotcha, I google around for them thanks

that sounds like a great cost effective solution

[smoky flame]

might want to look a bit more at it before jumping right into it all but yeah, it beats all the risk involved with custom loop water cooling and should still keep your GPU relatively cool

I'd worry if there somehow isn't an improvement in both current and junction temperatures

[tawny anvil]

yeah for sure

[full flint]

Yeah I need help

I've got GTA V on my Xbox and I want to play on it on PC with my saved data from my Xbox

How do I play on GTA V on my PC?

[autumn sluice]

Heres the neat part: you dont

[cunning pawn]

Lmfao

[full flint]

You can go to Xbox play anywhere website, log in with your account and search the games you want to redownload

There is also some videos on YouTube that can help u out

[full flint]

yeah I think GTA V isn't on there unfortunately

[north dust]

Yeah gta 5 isn’t Xbox play anywhere

[full flint]

Rip

[full flint]

Little question someone knows how to make a profile picture at Epic Games on the pc 😂

[terse cobalt]

gonna see i can figure it out

they dont even have a way to make a profile picture

[terse cobalt]

it doesnt exist, im surprised too.

[full flint]

oh okay thx

[final wigeon]

How do I get my Lenovo ideapad 3 out of boot menu

Anyone

[jagged bone]

I just looked it up

Sent you a dm

[pallid swift]

Yo anyone still in here

[full flint]

@smoky flame you about? idk if it's correct or not but the new AMD GPU driver has my gpu volts very low.

21.6.1 is what I installed.

I can set it to 750 the lowest. before it was like 1.2~

am I missing something? what changed? 😂

[smoky flame]

something doesn't sound right there

[full flint]

I was thinking that, too.

https://i.postimg.cc/G2Smckb2/Untitled.png

950 is the default...

sec let me screenshot.

https://i.postimg.cc/VvnvDJck/Untitled1.png

bugged driver?

[smoky flame]

what's it like if you were to reset to default settings?

[full flint]

second screen is default.

[smoky flame]

I mean if you were to be at stock, automatic/default if that is available for your GPU. Does it still show this behaviour at stock?

[full flint]

I can't see the volts if it's set to default/automatic.

[smoky flame]

hmm I'm not sure what to do or say about this tbh. Might be worth reporting it to AMD. Sorry 😦

[full flint]

no worries, just weird. 😂

[supple charm]

just bought the Elite Series 2 Controller for my PC, how do I setup my padel configurations?

[sullen oracle]

can someone help me with an xbox app for pc probelm i have?

[surreal moss]

#233805809346150400

[smoky flame]

https://www.techpowerup.com/284516 probably still going to beat Alder Lake in core count and power usage so no real biggie here. 5nm, pcie 5.0 and DDR5 to top all that off. Damn

[full flint]

yo

[vernal zinc]

yo can i upgrade enchantments on a netherite armour?

like if i have prot 4, and i put prot 5 book, will armour upgrade to prot 5?

[full flint]

does anyone know any good pc gaming youtubers?

[vernal zinc]

PewDiePie

[full flint]

like someone who reviews pc gaes

[vernal zinc]

oh bruh

[full flint]

games

[vernal zinc]

thats not "good" i though you meant good at games, like playing them

idk then who review games

[full flint]

oh lmao i meant like good reviews

[vernal zinc]

just type in search intel i5 vs ryzen 5 and then u will find game reviewers

in youtube tho

[full flint]

ok

k

[tender tundra]

anyone know why microsoft store doesnt work? im trying to install some games and the game pass games wont work

[obsidian bobcat]

Auto unmuted @sage terrace

[late badge]

lfg 21+ only no kids dm me

[full flint]

Linus tech tips jays two cent

[surreal moss]

Gamers nexus

[full flint]

Paul's hard ware

[pale spoke]

optimum tech, hardware unboxed, hardware canucks

[full flint]

anyone know when the new lineup of the Odyessy monitors are going to come in stock?

I'm holding out but it's taking forever

[terse cobalt]

for more than 2 seconds? never.

[full flint]

oh, wait; they're selling out quick but have been in stock?

[terse cobalt]

i dunno

[full flint]

was supposed to be released in June, I keep checking and no stock

[terse cobalt]

scalpers

probably

[smoky flame]

no idea but the Neo G9 releases later in July so I guess maybe the rest will show up then too?

[full flint]

I'm tempted to get this https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-monitors/msi-optix-g271-full-hd-27-ips-lcd-gaming-monitor-black-10204314-pdt.html

[terse cobalt]

curry? yeah indians do make really good curry ngl

[full flint]

currys* lol

[pale spoke]

steam deck sounds insane

[echo jackal]

guys i need help with xbox live when i test the conectivity it says blocked

i follow all the steps that are on xbox site still it didnt work

[full flint]

Sure does, switch killer.

[pale spoke]

doubt it

[smoky flame]

new AMD driver, 21.7.1

[full flint]

https://youtu.be/PjDgKXe8gxs

Please watch this @blissful shard

[dire patrol]

Hey, I’m running into an issue where I try to install games on the Xbox app and when I click install, it says there are no disks available. Then I go to the settings to change disk location and the drop down bar is just blank?

[full flint]

check for corrupt windows dependencies

DISM health check and SFC Scan

[dire patrol]

How to I check for corrupt dependencies?

[robust hollow]

yooo

[full flint]

1. Open command console with admin permissions (you can do that by Task Manager)
2. Type "sfc /scannow"

Of course you could Google it but still

[gleaming forum]

my left bumper is extremely unresponsive sometimes but sometimes it works normal, but i can still feel input lag from that side. I've tried smashing it and blowing in it like good old reddit said to. I play rocket league in particular and the RB feels way more responsive than LB. what to do?

[restive zenith]

Deal in Australia at the moment. XFX Radeon RX 6900 XT Speedster MERC 319 Black 16GB GDDR6 for $1999 AUD. Best price I found for a in stock 6900xt.

[smoky flame]

how have prices for it been up until now?

[restive zenith]

$2299...was the best

AUD

[smoky flame]

nice so GPU prices are coming down

[restive zenith]

Yes. But I think its mainly AMD 6000 series ones are coming down because they are not selling that well.

[smoky flame]

I don't see why that would be considering Nvidia cards tend to cost far more in this current condition but I think I know one reason. AMD RX 6000 series GPUs aren't as highly sought after for mining cryptocurrency. Apparently miners would rather take 5700 XT over the seemingly much more powerful 6800 XT or 6900 XT

[restive zenith]

That is a fair call. The best RTX 3080 price I can find is $2499 AUD and they are usually not in stock.

[smoky flame]

Hah yeah. $2500 for a 3080 yet the 6800 XT is its competition likely selling for $1000 less or not far off if I had to guess, lol

[restive zenith]

Your right. But the best price I can find for the RX 6800 XT is $1699 AUD and they are in stock in a lot of shops.

[smoky flame]

ouch!

actually wait, this is Aussie Dollars. $1700 Australian Dollars comes to just over £912 (before VAT) that actually isn't too bad. Isn't MSRP but I doubt we'll see those prices before new GPUs launch

[restive zenith]

What are your prices like in pounds?

The AUD prices include GST so nothing extra on top to pay.

[smoky flame]

well I bought my 6800 XT Red Devil a couple weeks back for £1200 but seeing 6800 XT in retail stores has been rare to non existent for the most part. I think at one point, not that long before I bought my 6800 XT there was one selling for £1500 so I already got a good deal and to further sweaten it I later traded in my old GPU, the highly sought after 5700 XT and subtracted the cost of what I got for that off my new GPU and it came to £840

probably would have got way more selling it over ebay but I don't trust it

[restive zenith]

Ok so that comes to $1566 AUD for a RX 6800 XT which is pretty good. We are in a tight lockdown for 2 weeks because of covid. I ordered the 6900 XT online and the post office is designated as essential so they are open, so I should still get mine delivered fairly quickly.

With ebay you have to pay fees when u sell something.

How are u liking the 6800XT?

[smoky flame]

loving it, absolute monster of a GPU when coming from something like the 5700 XT. So far no game has really tested it. Besides when I try running ray tracing. That runs horribly since there is no DLSS support (that being Nvidia RTX only)

[blissful shard]

did he do a bad thing?

[feral blade]

Nope. If done properly, it's a good thing.

[blissful shard]

thats what he did

[feral blade]

Means you get more performance out of it versus having it run at stock clocks. It'll run hotter but that's the cost of overclocking.

[smoky flame]

nope but it will run hotter and stuff. All that can be easily reversed if you want by clicking automatic and that will put it back to stock clocks

[blissful shard]

is what he did gonna hurt it?

[smoky flame]

not really but the gains are pretty minimal tbh

[feral blade]

I would say no. If he's overclocking it for you, chances are he wouldn't have done it in the first place if he thought it was gonna hurt it.

[blissful shard]

im testing it at automatic in endwalker to see what the score is

[smoky flame]

score will be lower but I wouldn't think that much lower. Clock speeds should now be as were advertised though

[blissful shard]

its going at 2740mhz now

aw my score dropped by 2k

[smoky flame]

that much from losing the OC and going stock/factory OC?

[blissful shard]

ya

[smoky flame]

ouch

[feral blade]

I would say test a few games that stress your GPU, then compare the results stock vs overclocked

[smoky flame]

tbh though it shouldn't be that big of a deal. Stock does increase the likelyhood of it being more stable than a manual overclock. Some games don't play nice with manual overclocks

[blissful shard]

Score: 16414
Average Frame Rate: 117.8675
Minimum Frame Rate: 49
Performance: Extremely High

thats on stock it was over 130 before

sub whats a good game to get to try on my pc?

[smoky flame]

sorry had to do something. A good game. Hmm I'm not sure. That is very subjective and falls to stuff you enjoy playing.

one thing, I'm tempted to try the same settings you had for a manual OC on my GPU. Last time I tried manually OCing this card it crashed on me so I don't expect it to hold but if it does I'll be impressed but curious as to where I went wrong. Heard RDNA 2 cards had quite a bit of OC headroom

[blissful shard]

did it work?

[smoky flame]

applying the same settings you had just to try it. Should it crash Radeon Software reverts back to automatic so I have nothing to worry about but I expect it to crash when power limit (+15%) is lower than max frequency (+17%)

[blissful shard]

are you gonna test it in the endwalker benchmark since you already have a score saved?

[smoky flame]

trying it now. Brb, I like to close Discord while gaming. Might be back quicker if it crashes. I uninstalled the endwalker benchmark. Going to try Assassin's Creed Valhalla

didn't even get past the game's splash screen and it all froze up on me. That sucks 😦 Not like it really matters though. I don't beleive in overclocking hardware. Squeezing out everything you can for so little in terms of gain usually isn't worth it and may create instability with the system while the OC is active

just to confirm my tuning settings are back at default. Going to run Assassin's Creed Valhalla again and it should work as intended and next post should be a benchmark result. Proving the whole instability part I don't like about overclocking

[blissful shard]

aw

[smoky flame]

as expected. Passed the splash screen where everything froze up for me last time and completed a benchmark at 1440p maxed settings

[blissful shard]

yay

[full flint]

business edition 😳

[vernal zinc]

123

[full flint]

That gpu is beast

[full flint]

It dropped to 59FPS tho...

[tawny anvil]

fixed my temps by adding fans to the top of the case

https://imgur.com/a/81dSKxp Think it turned out pretty poggers as the kids would say

[smoky flame]

lol, 0.1% lows don't bother me. What's the odds at 0.1% to be seeing 59 FPS (or lower) 1 in 1000 frames? Maintains well above 60 FPS even in the 1% lows and that, unless mistaken would be 1 in 100 frames

[smoky flame]

just by running a Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark at 1440p maxed settings (no ray tracing) and this is the result I got back. At one point during the mountain part of the benchmark FPS was exceeding my monitor's 240Hz refresh rate!

[valid night]

I’m looking to get a pc atm

Any tips?

[blissful shard]

im gonna run that when i build my new pc and see what i get 😄

[pale spoke]

assuming you don't have the budget wait for GPU prices to settle or stabilise (assuming you are buying/building a desktop)
There's tons of videos on how to build pcs on youtube from the likes of gamers nexus, jayztwocents, paulshardware, linustechtips, bitwit and so on
If you are just buying one (especially a laptop) its a lot easier...

[smoky flame]

should see quite an improvement on the CPU end but GPU will remain as was. FPS should increase though

[blissful shard]

my cpu was at 100% for more then half the test and it said i was 34% gpu bound does that mean my cpu is holding it back?

today the mother board and the ram and power supply get delivered, and monday i get the cpu and the thermal goop stuff and then tuesday i get the cooler and then thursday i get the case

[smoky flame]

mine wasn't like that and we have the same core count 6 cores and 12 threads, just one CPU generation apart. Do you know if you have Ryzen Master installed on your PC?

[blissful shard]

idk why you have to use goop but its a thing and my dad made me get it it was like $8

yes i have it

[smoky flame]

thermal paste helps the cooler do what it has to in keeping the CPU cool. Cooler wouldn't work properly without it and the CPU would likely overheat

open Ryzen Master and lets see the settings a moment

[blissful shard]

well the kind he had me get was https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0795DP124/ this kind

my pc isnt on right now im on my macbook in bed

[smoky flame]

I heard Arctic is a good choice. My CPU air cooler is from Arctic and came with a little pouch of the same thermal paste

[blissful shard]

oh

what kind of cooler did you get?

[smoky flame]

https://www.arctic.de/en/Freezer-34-eSports-DUO/ACFRE00061A

[blissful shard]

i asked my dad he said its overclocked to 4.3ghz all cores and thats a upgrade over stock of 100mhz

thats a nice looking cooler i like the black and white look

my system is gonna be all black and white too i got a white case and rams

[smoky flame]

keeps my 5600X pretty cool at stock. Doesn't usually pass 70C in most games though I found Cold War it will, could also be to do with this so called heatwave I'm facing too

[blissful shard]

idk how good the one my dad had me get is

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08NWPXKZQ its this one

[smoky flame]

AIO coolers should do a better job than air coolers but Ryzen will try to boost as much as it can before hitting various limits so don't be surprised if CPU temperatures exceed 60C. Overclocking, much like the GPU won't yield much in terms of performance gains so it is best left stock. Your 5900X will draw much more power too

[blissful shard]

will it overheat?

[smoky flame]

no, it will be fine

think I'll revisit Biomutant. Been a few updates since I last played it. Wonder if it is any better and how it performs with this beast of a GPU.

[sharp moss]

How much fps do u think u will get in fortnite on max settings? Just curious

[blissful shard]

yay i got 3 of the parts i ordered

[midnight finch]

anyone want to play ranked team racing in fh4

[smoky flame]

if I'm going to build myself a new PC what case would be good? Really fancy trying for airflow and I may even be tempted back into using an AIO CPU cooler too. Got what I feel is the perfect one in mind

[blissful shard]

what perfect one @smoky flame ?

i asked my dad what case you should use hes finding it for me

[raven hull]

I can’t do it, but I’m a fan of wall mounted cases.

[blissful shard]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B088T3VMKK my dad said this one is the bestest one for airflow

[raven hull]

Wall mount is all open, all air.

[smoky flame]

thanks! I noticed there is a non RGB version. As long as there is no differences between them (besides the RGB of course) I think I'll opt for the non-RGB and save myself a little bit of money. Will be buying other fans after so any fans included with the cooler or case likely won't remain. Going for a minimal RGB approach this time

I'd never trust myself with a wall mounted PC

[blissful shard]

non r gb only has 1 fan in front and not 2 but other then that it looks the same

also the non rgb looks like it costs more

so just get the rgb and take the fans out or dont plug in the rgb part?

[smoky flame]

drgb case costs a bit more. No reason to spend that extra if I won't use it

[blissful shard]

drgb says 137 and non rgb says 168 are you seeing somthing different?

[smoky flame]

I'm seeing 137 and 103

[blissful shard]

maybe its because im not in the uk and thats why i see a different price

[smoky flame]

might be. £34 I can put back into fans though so I think I'll do that. If fans are the same on the cooler as the ones I intend to get then that may save me a little more. I like outfitting the whole case with fans 😄

[blissful shard]

my dad said the included fans are good and replacing them would cost more then what your gonna save so just dont plug in the 5v rgb cable and use the rgb fans as is

[smoky flame]

I know but I really like the fans that come with the CPU cooler I use just now. I'd also like to keep loose cables to a minimum. Being very picky with this build, maybe too picky... 😄

[blissful shard]

what are the fans with your cooler? can you buy them separate?

[smoky flame]

https://www.arctic.de/en/BioniX-P120/ACFAN00116A pretty sure it is this and it comes with an adapter to allow a second fan to use the same fan connector

[blissful shard]

do you like them because of the white and black?

[smoky flame]

they seem really quiet and no RGB is of course what I'm after

might get those for the cooler there is also the F120 https://www.arctic.de/en/BioniX-F120/ACFAN00092A that seems more suitable for case cooling

[blissful shard]

https://youtu.be/jkJxoATZyds this is the review for my case that i got i picked it myself an my dad said i done a good job

that guy looks like a stoner

[smoky flame]

still don't know if I'll bother going for the 5950X honestly seems overkill but I have a motherboard to match it if I do go through with it and would be a bonkers PC

[smoky flame]

how my PC could look. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QRs7xc

[blissful shard]

fancy

i switched my cooler from a 280 to a 240 my dad found one thats not overpriced and will fit in the top of my case instead of the front

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087YXWFTK see?

[smoky flame]

that is pretty cool and yeah, my thinking was going for 240 but that case your dad suggested allows for even a 360 AIO. Pretty crazy to imagine that at the top of a case but I think 360 may be a bit much. Could get the 360 version of the cooler in my pcpartpicker link for less than £100 though

[blissful shard]

neat

are you gonna get it?

[smoky flame]

not sure yet

might actually hold off on the upgrade for now. See if my brother would rather I build him a PC. Won't likely cost as much but comes off his money rather than me spending a huge amount on what is pretty much an overkill system

might still do some minor upgrades to stuff like the case, fans and PSU though. Those have been part of my system since 2016 or so and may need replacing some day soon

[blissful shard]

my dad changed the cooler order again and now its coming on tuesday again

he got a arctic freezer 240 because its the best one so thats what i will have in my pc now

[smoky flame]

haha that's the one I was going for 😄

[blissful shard]

it looks weird and has a fan by the cpu whats it do?

[smoky flame]

that's the pump I think

https://www.arctic.de/en/Liquid-Freezer-II-240/ACFRE00046A

[blissful shard]

it doesnt have lights but thats ok my case already has lights

im gonna make them pink or rainbow idk yet

[viral crest]

I have the p400a and definitely recommend Phanteks for airflow @smoky flame

The p500a is a bit larger as far as I know, so if you don't need the room you could get the same and it's cheaper.

Corsair has an airflow case as well, bit more expensive though.

[full flint]

my xbox app closes after clicking game pass so does xbox companion please help

[smoky flame]

hmm thanks blue! I think I've changed my mind. Going to refresh my PC if anything. Like buy some new case fans, maybe still go through with a new case that is better equipped for airflow and perhaps a new PSU, one that will have me ready for future GPUs because something tells me 650W won't last forever, especially with the GPUs I keep eyeing up to buy and this 650W PSU I've been using has lasted me over 5 years now as it is

also, the p500a might be perfect btw all that extra room should great for allowing air to move about a bit and hopefully means I have space for AIO radiators at the front should I not only return to AIO cooling for my CPU but look at it for GPU cooling too. Anyone ever run dual AIO cooling in a PC

[blissful shard]

my dad told me you can use 1 as intake and the other 1 as exhaust and it will work fine

[smoky flame]

is it definitely a widespread bug with Windows 11? Tried uninstalling the driver and allowing Windows update to install the latest available version it has? Should be even more up to date than the official public releases but still behind AMD Vanguard

[blissful shard]

idk what it is

[smoky flame]

if you can, might want to see if your dad can do this. Would involve uninstalling the current GPU driver, which may require a restart and then going to Windows updates, check for updates and it should show an AMD graphics driver to which he installs, upon installation it may need another restart but that might fix the issue 🙂

[blissful shard]

well its getting re installed once i build the new pc

[smoky flame]

ahh ok, might still be something to keep in mind on reinstall

[blissful shard]

ok

my dad said your graphics should be intake and cpu should be exhaust, the cpu can tolerate higher temps than the graphics

hes smart idk how he learns that stuffs

[smoky flame]

hmm interesting I would have thought it be the other way around. CPU as intake and GPU exhaust since the GPU is likely to get hotter thus expelling the air out would be better than allowing that to gather inside the case

[blissful shard]

he said the cpu isnt that stressed for games the graphics mostly is and you need the most cooling for that and if your super stressing the cpu the graphics arent doing anything

[smoky flame]

that is a fair point but at least in my use case all i'd be doing is gaming so the GPU is likely to be the most stressed. I've yet to see a game use 100% of my CPU and the hottest it gets under current cooling conditions is around 70C. AIO I could likely get it cooler still

[blissful shard]

ya so the graphics needs the most cooling and your cpu is already getting all the heat from your graphics and not even that hot with a regular cooler so with water it will be better anyways

[smoky flame]

ok, so GPU intake and CPU exhaust. Got it! 👍 thanks 🙂

[blissful shard]

how did my dad learn all the stuffs he knows?

[smoky flame]

no idea but it is awesome to learn this stuff. I love PC gaming

[blissful shard]

im gonna try to get into it with my new pc

brb workout time

[smoky flame]

have fun!

[blissful shard]

sub guess what

i learned how to install ram and which spots they go in, and i installed the ssd thingy too

[sharp moss]

Ohh cool, I learned to install the ram but needed help with the ssd

[smoky flame]

nice! RAM and NVMe SSD are easy plus no cables to worry about or that

[silk turret]

i learned how to safe my pc from virusses

[full flint]

Ok

[smoky flame]

tried some livestreaming through Radeon Software and the quality isn't too bad. My PC for having a seemingly low end/mainstream CPU wasn't at all bogged down by it or the game I was playing - Cold War. What's the big deal about people calling AMD livestreaming trash etc? Was perfectly fine on my end

[blissful shard]

my dad said the quality isnt as good as nvidia so anything that isnt 100% exactly as good = trash, he also said the performance hit is tiny becuz the graphics has built in hardware to do video streaming with and only uses a little bit of your graphics ram and not much else

[surreal moss]

Quality/efficiency isn’t the best in comparison to NVENC and x264

It’s not bad, but it’s not nearly as good as the other two when set up right

[blissful shard]

my dad said if sites would switch to hevc codec that amd would take the lead and quality for everybody would go up because the one they use now is super old and not great to begin with

[surreal moss]

X264 is old but it’s open source and extremely customizable

[blissful shard]

oh is the hevc thing not open?

[surreal moss]

No idea. But no need to replace it right now

There’s still lots of people who can’t even watch a full quality livestream

[blissful shard]

because there pc is too slow?

even $40 android phones from 2 years ago can play videos fine so it has to be old pcs that have the issue

[surreal moss]

Internet

Bitrate is the bottleneck right now, not the performance/efficiency

[smoky flame]

Interesting. I think I have quite a bit to learn about livestreaming. Mostly just giving it a try though. Wanted to put to rest my curiosity about it all

[blissful shard]

oh, ya thats why quality would be better because hevc is way better then the old one at any given bit rate and also both amd and nvidia are equally good at doing hevc videos

i never streamed off a pc so far only the xbox, but im gonna try it once i build my new pc

also xlr8 im building a new pc! my dads teaching me how i already learned how to install ram and a nvme

[smoky flame]

your PC should be more than capable soon!

[blissful shard]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MG9DLP is the pc 😄

im waiting on the rest of the guts they are coming in the next couple days

sub do i need to save up for a new ssd thats a pcie 4? or is that one fast enough?

[smoky flame]

think you forgot to add the cooler change

[blissful shard]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jnPpTJ fixed it ty

[smoky flame]

fast enough. Windows 11 will make use of DirectStorage and the minimum requirement is a gen 3 NVMe SSD so you are fine and ready to make use of that feature - we have the same SSD btw! 😄

[blissful shard]

did i pay too much for any of those parts?

oh its my dads old one he got a samsung 980 thingy that was mega expensive

[smoky flame]

not sure tbh since it is all in USD

oh, damn!

that will be really fast

[blissful shard]

should i replace the fans on the cooler with ones that have lights?

[smoky flame]

up to you on that

[blissful shard]

will it make it cool worse?

[smoky flame]

not as far as I'm aware. My case has a fan in just about every location that allows for one

[blissful shard]

mine will have fans in every spot except the back do i need to add one?

[smoky flame]

that is usually the spot for exhaust. Ideally you want front to be intake and top and rear to be exhaust

or that is what I have read up and been told various times at least

[blissful shard]

i hope i dont mess up my pc build

so far your the only one that gave a opinion on the parts i picked with my dads help

[smoky flame]

I'm sure you won't. You got this! Read over the manuals carefully and just take your time with it. Building your first PC is quite an experience. Seeing it successfully boot up is such a good feeling

ehh I just try to help out where I can. Very passionate about PC building and gaming. Only built one PC. Swapped out the GPU 3 times and rebuilt once since. All that since mid 2016. I still feel relatively new to it all myself but have learnt a lot in the past 5 years

[blissful shard]

thats a long time

[rigid oar]

I have a question related to pc game pass and the pc Microsoft store

[full flint]

shoot

[sharp moss]

hey

[floral quail]

guys

I was just wondering, that is around 65-75c good for a 240m AIO liquid cooler cooled 3900X under full gaming load

[smoky flame]

that is fine, stock no overclock or enabling PBO right? These AMD CPUs will try to boost through an algorithm until various limits are reached and then stop

hence why I don't recommend anyone manually overclocks their Ryzen CPUs. AMD already have them running close to their best so just leave them at stock.
Newer Ryzen CPUs, Zen 3 (5000 series) have a feature called curve optimizer that allows the user to undervolt, negative 30 being the max and each step lowers voltage by 3-5mV

requires quite a bit of tweaking though. As I found out one jsut can't set all cores to negative 30 and forget it. Optimal set up of curve optimzer will require the user to go through each core individually to find the best figure for that core and the more cores your CPU has, the more work that makes

[full flint]

pbo is useful

[smoky flame]

from what I've used of PBO, when enabling motherboard limits or through Ryzen Master is that it seems to unlock these limits and allowed multi core clock speeds to increase a little. May improve performance marginally too but will have the CPU run much hotter as a result of limits being essentially lifted

[full flint]

got enough Cooling to do though is warmer then I would like is on a 95 tdp chip

[smoky flame]

I believe using PBO will make even an AIO cooler cry. Have seen people with AIO coolers and their AMD CPU reaching 80C which is about the same as how my cooler does and it is not an AIO. Dual fan air cooler.
Though I would like to add, even though PBO seems to lift limits some still seem to be at play as I've noticed my 5600X won't get hotter than 80C or around that when PBO is enabled even though the CPU is rated to run at up to 95C

[full flint]

mine is 2600x lol

[surreal moss]

PBO will make it boost to max temps based on a table. 95C hurts stability so it’ll stop climbing the table based on the temp

Which is usually around 80 suprise surprise

My 8700k is rated for 105

Doesn’t mean it’s safe to run that

Even if you used LN2, that thing will keep boosting its heart out until it hits a thermal throttle, or most likely a throttle somewhere else (in that example)

Usually core/mem stability

[smoky flame]

I get that but I thought that temperature limit was safe. Anyone using the stock cooler, that happens to use PBO during a warm summers day would find that out pretty quick I guess 😄

[full flint]

true

[surreal moss]

It’s safe as in it won’t have a physical meltdown and die to the point of not turning back on

After that, it will most likely initiate system shutdown if it can’t cool

[smoky flame]

yeah, that is the safe I was thinking. Safe but not ideal to be running at these temperatures, aka hitting the limit

[surreal moss]

You’re gonna throttle hard before you even get there anyway

[smoky flame]

hmm so would lowering that limit to 80C do anything seeing as that appears to be like a soft cap as it is?

I'm still pretty amazed at how well my air cooler manages when I see others using AIO with the same CPU as me getting much the same temperature though idk if you saw what I've been saying lately, XLR8 but I may consider a return to AIO cooling. Even considering an AIO GPU kit too if it keeps my 6800 XT any cooler but all that is distant thoughts right now.

will never go custom loop liquid cooling though. That is just too much work and I'm not in the position to replace any hardware should a leak occur. At least with AIO coolers the chance of a leak is minimal to none and no awkward maintenance required over time like there is with custom loop liquid cooling

[rigid oar]

So I noticed that the Microsoft store on pc has a thing that shows this game supports mods , is there a way to filter games that way

[full flint]

Unfortunately no.

[blissful shard]

omg my stuff is here

except my case 😦 which is tomorrow 😦

[full flint]

sad

[smoky flame]

might want to update the bios on the motherboard to the latest available non beta version. Support for Ryzen 5000 was added a while back but there's no telling if your motherboard will support it out the box. Most B550 boards should support a feature called BIOS flashback

[light lily]

sup guys

[blissful shard]

@smoky flame yaaay i built a pc, except its sprawled out on a table, because the case comes tomorrow

the cpu part was scary it has so many pins omg

idk what to test my cpu cooler with to make sure its working

my dad had me do this, it got to 59C after 10 minutes of doing that over and over, so i think thats ok

[smoky flame]

what software did you use to monitor CPU temperature?

[blissful shard]

asus thingy and ryzen master thingy both said the same thing

[smoky flame]

ahh Ryzen Master is alright. Asus thingy though? Another program that I hear is pretty good to use is hwinfo. I used that when monitoring CPU temperatures and running Cinebench r23

[blissful shard]

umm, https://rog.asus.com/us/armoury-crate/ this thingy

it only goes down to 40 when not doing anything and up to 59 - 60 when doing that cinebench thing and 48 when doing FF14 benchmark

[smoky flame]

oh no armory crate. Personally I don't use it but have heard it is a nightmare to remove from the PC, should you ever want to. I disabled it in the BIOS so I don't get annoyed by the occasional notifications

[blissful shard]

so i shouldnt install it? i didnt re install windows yet i just booted up the windows it already had i was waiting until i put it all in the case to redo the windows with dads help

how do we disable the pop up thingy for the software in the bios? is it hard to find?

[smoky flame]

completely your choice I choose not to due to hearing it can be a nightmare to uninstall later but its your syatem, your call. Now that you've effectively built a PC it isn't so hard is it? tis but a bunch of screws and some cables :D

[blissful shard]

the hard part was not freaking out and dropping the cpu thingy because it has 1500 tiny pins on it and omg its scary to even touch it

[smoky flame]

uhh iirc it was in the boot section in the bios. Gimme a moment to confirm

[blissful shard]

ok

[smoky flame]

under the tool section

[blissful shard]

ok ty

[smoky flame]

don't forget to enable resize bar again and make sure CSM is disabled before fresh installing windows 10

[blissful shard]

my score in ff14 went up by 3500 points btw

[smoky flame]

[blissful shard]

its at 19.5k with the graphics on auto

is that becuz of the new cpu?

[smoky flame]

will be yeah

[blissful shard]

yay

ok so tomorrow i gotta turn off the armory thingy and then re install windows

[smoky flame]

how was it installing the cooler?

https://wccftech.com/directstorage-developer-preview-out-now-on-pc-supports-windows-10-too/ wow Microsoft. Make up your mind on DirectStorage. thought only Windows 11 was going to support it. Good to see it coming to Windows 10 though I guess

[blissful shard]

sub it was ok, i had to screw in some screws and do a thing

[swift verge]

uhhh-

how to solve This is rated above ***my gamertag*** restriction
i bought xbox gamepass and have no family member with my account

all i want is just to download the game :<

[blissful shard]

putting it in the case is gonna be weird, but shouldnt be that hard, the case i got, the entire top of the case is removable so i can bolt the cooler to the top piece and then install the board, and then put the case back together to make it way easier i think

xiox are you under 18?

[swift verge]

yep

[blissful shard]

then idk what to do, ask in #233805809346150400 but i think its because your trying to play something rated higher then your age

k brb again

[blissful shard]

sub my dad did a thing and now it gets 24k in cinebench instead of 19.4k, idk what he did to it

[smoky flame]

sounds like he may have overclocked it. That is quite a leap

temperatures still good?

[blissful shard]

84C during 10 mins of cinebench, hes running FF14 benchmark for me and then i will report the temperature it gets on that and the score

[smoky flame]

definitely an overclock. Might be PBO. If so everything should be ok. Temperatures shouldn't get that high while gaming

[blissful shard]

hwinfo says max temp was 78C during that benchmark

no change in score, idk why

Score: 19554
Average Frame Rate: 132.8273
Minimum Frame Rate: 69

[full flint]

Nice

[blissful shard]

maximum cpu power draw 167.5w he said he just enabled pbo and it takes care of the rest automagically

[smoky flame]

if it is PBO the most it might do is slightly improve multi core clock speeds but still within spec, hence the higher score in cinebench r23. Games don't quite operate the same way. In fact, I find while gaming clock speeds remain around the single core figure, which on my 5600X is 4.65GHz

[blissful shard]

4950mhz max clock speeds, hes gonna see what it runs at during the benchmark now

[smoky flame]

going to download that benchmark again and set my CPU to use PBO too

[blissful shard]

he said its doing 4700 - 4800 during the game

[smoky flame]

that would be in line with the single core clock speed on the 5900X I believe, as I mentioned

ok, brb going to run the benchmark

[blissful shard]

cpu power hit 190W in cinebench but only 160 in ff14

ok

[smoky flame]

dang

[blissful shard]

are you set to 1440p maximum? or does it say 1440p custom?

[smoky flame]

1440p max

[blissful shard]

ok im curious what you score

[blissful shard]

so that difference is 100% just the graphics card being faster?

[smoky flame]

yup and by the looks of it not much of a difference either. I thought there would have been a far bigger score gap tbh

[blissful shard]

why isnt it that big?

[smoky flame]

not sure

benchmarks can be funny things

[blissful shard]

what does 5600 do in cinebench with pbo thingy?

[smoky flame]

a lot less than your CPU due to having half the cores

brb I'll run cinebench

[blissful shard]

so it should do like 12k? ok

[blissful shard]

neat

how hot did it get?

[smoky flame]

I didn't check but usually hovers around 80C when I tested it before

btw, through Ryzen Master there might be a couple of additional features for your CPU since it uses two CCD that might further optimize performance for certain programs

[blissful shard]

what do i do?

[smoky flame]

go into Ryzen Master and from there look for game mode. Make sure to re enable PBO and see if one of these options are present. You might get both or one of them, I got neither since I believe legacy compatility mode requires a Ryzen CPU with more than one CCD. As for dynamic local mode and memory access mode idk what they do. i don't even know if either will be present on your CPU

[blissful shard]

i have legacy mode

so i only need that if a game doesnt work?

[smoky flame]

games should work, enabling that might just improve performance since it disables half the cores and if I'm not mistaken it will likely pick the stronger of the two CCD meaning you should see a performance boost. Most games still barely make use of 4 cores, let alone 12! 😄

the odd games that do happen to make use of more than 6 cores is when that second CCD would be reintroduced and from there you might see a loss in performance since the other CCD seems to choose efficiency over performance and as a result the CPU tries to find a happy balance between the two

[blissful shard]

sub are you still here?

[smoky flame]

nice!

[blissful shard]

190 is too fast

im installing tomb raider on it to test it

apparently im cpu bottlenecked because my maximum is the same for cpu render and gpu on here

i might actually outscore you on this game?

[smoky flame]

there is a setting in Radeon Software called enhanced sync go into FH4's profile and enable that and it should eliminate screen taring and allow you to play screen tear free even past your TV's refresh rate

I'm not too sure on that. You might but GPU should be the deciding factor in proper game tests and that is where mine will come out ahead. It's some 20-30% faster I think. That would be comparing a system with the exact same CPU and with SAM enabled

[blissful shard]

in 10 minutes i will test tomb raider what settings did you do?

k brb in 6 minutes, will you be around for long enough for me to test tomb raider?

2 more minutes apparently

[smoky flame]

I set tomb raider to the highest settings possible besides anti aliasing,I left that on TAA and ray tracing that I disabled

[blissful shard]

ok i will do that in 1 mins when its finished

[smoky flame]

my run from before

[blissful shard]

ok brb i will do it now

oh its downloaded now its doing something else

so another minute

k brb!

@smoky flame

oops its not the same you had lens flares off too

brb i run again

[smoky flame]

some settings like lens flare are personal preference. I just disable them. Not a fan of motion blur or depth of field either. Performance likely won't improve much, if at all. at best a couple FPS gained but it won't make that big of a difference in a benchmark I'd think

[blissful shard]

is 125 bad?

[smoky flame]

no, that is great. 125 FPS at 1440p and effectively maxed settings is nice

[blissful shard]

on yours the last half of the benchmark the cpu was bottle necking you if im reading your graph right but on mine the cpu never did and was 100% gpu?

[smoky flame]

yeah, I don't get what was happening there. GPU bound even says 59% which is odd. With those settings and the 1440p resolution it should be GPU bound

[blissful shard]

im on driver 21.6.1 instead of 21.7.1 would that make a difference? how do i get the new one?

[smoky flame]

no, that's just an update. Again a personal preference thing I'd say. Some (like myself) like to make sure everything is up to date others will only update if necessary, like it fixes an issue they had or something along those lines.
To get an update though go into Radeon Software and click on the second most right icon, (a gear) settings. Should then take you to the settings tab and from there choose recommended + optional for Preferred Software Version and then check for update. It will download, press install and let it do its thing. You will need to restart your system at least once for it to apply

[blissful shard]

radeon thing said im up to date

oh i fixed it its downloading

its installing yay

[smoky flame]

any time a driver update goes live I usually post the update notes here for no reason other than being excited about each and every update AMD release 😄

[blissful shard]

it updated and rebooted already

[smoky flame]

nice!

[blissful shard]

k what can i test now?

[smoky flame]

idk, go crazy with it I guess! That GPU should be able to handle just about any game with at least 60 FPS or greater. Just don't try ray tracing as that will tank the framerate

[blissful shard]

ok but idk what to benchmark 😄

[smoky flame]

try playing some games and see how it performs. Benchmarks are fairly limited and may not show you a true representation of how your hardware performs

[blissful shard]

ok i will have to wait until tomorrow when i build it to do that because i have no controller or sound in here

[smoky flame]

you might also want to disable PBO while gaming. I don't think it will really do much during gaming. I've not noticed it really take affect while gaming

[blissful shard]

but it boosted my final fantasy 14 performance by a lot

[smoky flame]

did you test it while playing FF14 or was that just with the benchmark? As I said before about overclocking it won't really make that much of a difference. Best result maybe a few extra frames but the overclocked hardware runs hotter, uses more power and may not be as stable as stock. PBO is an exception though as it just seems to allow more power to the CPU and not much else. I guess tweaking the power limit slider and putting that to max on the GPU would have a similar effect and stability shouldn't be affected. Really up to you at the end of the day though

[blissful shard]

and it was a gigabyte and not a strix 6700xt afterall and speccy wasnt drunk, and i was wrong

it was with the benchmark, im gonna test the actual game now

well once it downloads all 70 gigs of itself

[smoky flame]

going to give this a try where I use both PBO and a maxed GPU power limit. Pretty sure my CPU tops out at around 112w and my GPU 322w. 434W total between just the CPU and GPU. Rest of the system likely doesn;t draw any more than 50-100w

[blissful shard]

oh neat

i posted a picture see?

[smoky flame]

nice

[blissful shard]

its a gigabyte 6700xt i was wrong about it being the asus

it looks nice though

[smoky flame]

how many fans on the GPU?

[blissful shard]

3

[smoky flame]

nice! That should keep things relatively cool

[blissful shard]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6700-xt-gaming-oc/ its this kind apparently

idk if that can tell you anything useful

[smoky flame]

tells me plenty. I love techpowerup's reviews and tear downs!

[blissful shard]

ok what did it tell you then?

[smoky flame]

what do you mean?

[blissful shard]

is it a good card?

idk how graphics reviews work really

[smoky flame]

well it just tells me it is a 6700 XT and that it is a good GPU. It's not often there is a bad choice these days but not that long ago both AMD and Nvidia used to have blower style cooler GPUs and the cooling performance on them was horrible. Fast forward to now and it is rare to see these blower style cooler on GPUs from either company this generation

[blissful shard]

yay

[smoky flame]

Think I'll go and play The Division 2. That has a benchmark in game that I'll run and post before actually playing

[blissful shard]

ok 😄

ooo the pc version has a 8 hour trial so i can try it and benchmark it too

[smoky flame]

pretty sure this is a great result. 1440p, maxed settings. The usual personal preference stuff disabled and even enabled Radeon Image Sharpening through Radeon Software.

[blissful shard]

what preference stuff did you disable? so i can try a benchmark of it once it downloads?

[smoky flame]

stuff like motion blur, depth of field, chromatic aberration, lens flare. Might have missed some of them but that is the common ones that should I see them I disable them. Some don't mind the effects, hence the whole personal preference thing though

play around, this is the joys of PC gaming. Having all these options to explore and nothing really to stop us 😄

[full flint]

will radeon 5700xt run infinite at 1440 120fps

[blissful shard]

nobody knows

[pine frost]

Does anyone know exact time the gta update will come?

[pure walrus]

Hi all,

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[floral quail]

I had the power settings set to ryzen high performance so it was probably running at 4Ghz but idk if pbo was enabled or not, because I dont know what it is

[loud venture]

nope

[vernal horizon]

Windows + G

[blissful shard]

@smoky flame also, division 2 crashes in direct x 12 mode instantly on trying to load, is this normal? it works in 11

[smoky flame]

yeah, unfortunately DirectX 12 is known to have issues. For some it will work fine, others it is a mess. Shame really as DirectX 12 provides what appears to be some gain to performance but I think I may have found out why it crashes

[blissful shard]

why? also did you benchmark it in 11 or 12?

mine crashes literally the instant it tries to load into the game or the benchmark from the menu if its in direct x 12

[smoky flame]

I run it in DirectX 12 and seem to be lucky and I think the crashing in DirectX 12 may have something to do with VRAM usage. Takes a little over 13GB if you end up running the game at maxed settings, or at least it does on my 6800 XT. Kind of funny how the old GPUs I used to use crashed and so far this one seems solid. Past GPUs I've owned have had far less VRAM than the 6800 XT has (16GB). Had a 1080 Ti, which had 11GB and more recently a 5700 XT that had 8GB

if it is to do with VRAM then there are currently only 4 GPUs that have more than 13GB VRAM that can properly run The Division 2 at maxed settings with DirectX 12. 6800, 6800 XT and 6900 XT on AMD's side and the 3090 on Nvidia's side

[blissful shard]

so i cant even play the game?

ok i wont buy it then i was only using the trial

[smoky flame]

you could try the DirectX 11 mode but you might lose a little performance. Should run far better though and VRAM usage shouldn't be nearly as high

[blissful shard]

it doesnt run at all in directx 12 it instantly crashes when it tries to load into the game or benchmark, literally as soon as the loading circle hits 99% the amd driver tells me the game sotpped responding

in directx 11 it only gets 88fps on 1440p max graphics

[smoky flame]

That is still a pretty solid result. With VRR enabled on your TV you probably won't even notice it since there will be no screen tearing or that but yeah, that will sound about right

only reason I use maxed settings is to see the worst the game can do in terms of graphic settings and their hit to performance. If I had more time I'd go as far as to directly compare each setting in the games I play and find the best settings based off visual quality and performance. With some settings giving little to no visual improvement but a huge hit to performance likely being the settings I drop

[blissful shard]

yaaaay its built

[smoky flame]

nice!

[vernal sleet]

Free code to 1 month Game pass ultimate.
Code: QQYHW-W43F7-KC4PV-CGXYH-D26DZ
Not sure if you're able to use it but check and see

[full flint]

Please let them know if you redeem it as well.

[raven hull]

New user trial code. FYI.

[blissful shard]

@smoky flame i got the p360 its awesome but not huge

[smoky flame]

how was it to build in?

[blissful shard]

my dad found a thing and we made my cpu run better while also still being even cooler then stock

amd curve optimizer set to negative 20 made the voltages lower and still increased the clock speeds with pbo so i score 22.9k instead of 24k but the temperatures are lower then it was stock where i only scored 19k

it wasnt that bad it went pretty fast

i did it all by myself!

the hardest part was making it so all the wires were neat and none were sticking out anywhere so the inside looks perfect

[smoky flame]

hah yeah. Cable management can be a nightmare

[blissful shard]

oh it was fine i didnt even need a single zip tie even tho it came with a bunch

i just had to find the right hole each wire goes through and the right way to route it so it was perfect

you cant see any wires inside at all except the tubes from the cooler which you cant exactly hide

[smoky flame]

Nice, see it wasn't all that bad after all 🙂 I get it looks scary but honestly PC building isn't difficult and the sooner people realize this the sooner they can build a higher quality system with components they selected rather than get bargain bucket parts and companies mark up these pre builds. Also feels good after building and booting the system up knowing you done it

[blissful shard]

see? lights!

[smoky flame]

https://tenor.com/view/sunlight-blind-gif-9818319

😄

[blissful shard]

this is what i did with all the wires

how bad did i do with that?

[smoky flame]

done pretty good. I took no time with my PC's cables snaking them about the case is just time consuming. As long as it is decently tidy I'm happy. Can always revisit it and tidy it up more whenever anyway

[raven hull]

I like it. I’m all about cable management.

[full flint]

nice

[autumn sluice]

Go to gaming. The rest is pretty self explanatory

[robust mist]

guys

do you know how to use remote play on pc on new xbox app for series x

[autumn sluice]

Looks at the join now button

[raven hull]

There’s no remote play on pc for series x|s yet. There is cloud gaming with Ultimate.

[full flint]

@smoky flame when did you say that new monitor is coming from Samsung? it's like a week to my birthday and want to get a new monitor for the Series X/PS5 ASAP. but holding off until the Samsung G5 IPS gets more stock/released.

[smoky flame]

no idea, I believe Samsung have released it but with just about everything right now availability is limited to non existent. Just keep checking retailers and it might show up. Neo G9 is said to release in about a week but that is ultrawide and likely to be very expensive

[woeful egret]

the

[coarse pond]

just finished building a new pc and after several hours of troubleshooting finally got it up and running (sorta) my x570 / 5600x combo wasn't showing display for my gpu using display port but hdmi worked, gonna try updating the firmware of the gpu to see if that fixes it lmao

[smoky flame]

when I rebuilt my PC one of the first things I done was install AMD's chipset drivers. If you haven't already done that you might want to

[coarse pond]

well i didn't even have a os installed yet, just couldn't get picture displayed for the bios because my display port wouldn't work, imma get all the drivers and stuff installed once i get the os installed

[smoky flame]

oh, my bad. What GPU was this?

[livid seal]

hello eveyone, I was planing to a new game pc with those spces: ASUS RX 6700 XT OC 12GB GDDR6 256bit TUF-RX6700XT-O12G-GAMING,
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X, 6 core (3.7/4.6GHz, 32MB Cache, AM4) MPK, Wraith Stealth,
G.Skill Trident Z RGB, 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz, for AMD, F4-3600C18D-16GTZRX,
DeepCool GAMMAXX L240 V2,
Fractal Design Meshify C Mini,
Gigabyte P850GM, 850W, Active PFC, 80+ Gold, 120mm вентилатор

but then I found out xbox series x 😄

and price become half.

could you please help me to choose. is there negative thing on xbox ?

I am mostly playing COD Warzone

and I will use keyboard and mouse on xbox series x if I buy

[smoky flame]

That system sounds pretty solid tbf. It will be faster than the Series X though I do admit not enough to justify buying it over the console if it costs about double but still, PC gaming does have many benefits console gaming just can't offer.
For a start far more access to high refresh rate displays with Displayport 1.4 and these refresh rates can exceed what the Series X can use.
Also, as with all RX 6000 series AMD GPUs, the 6700 XT supports HDMI 2.1, like the Series X should you have a TV or monitor that also uses HDMI 2.1

[livid seal]

thank for the comment. I have sony tv, I can handle it with that. in the future I can buy 32 inch 2k monitor

[smoky flame]

what resolution is this Sony TV?

[livid seal]

I have powerfull laptop an working and playing games on it

4K

sony KD-55XF9005

this is the monitor that I in the list

Dell 27 Gaming Monitor S2721DGFA

[smoky flame]

nice, though at 4K it may be a bit too much for the 6700 XT. It is more suited to 1440p gaming so a monitor will be a better choice

[coarse pond]

1050 ti

[livid seal]

yes you are absolutely right. I am an 20 years computer engineer. I do understand very well 😄

but I really decided to buy xbox series x

[smoky flame]

ahh tried all the displayport connections? kind of odd for displayport not to work after building a new PC. 🤔

[livid seal]

this computer cost 2000 dollar without monitor 😄

@coarse pond sorry to intrup your topic, mate.

[coarse pond]

only has one display port and hdmi port, the hdmi works fine just not the display port. I was readying online and people were saying it might need a firmware update

[coarse pond]

its fine

[livid seal]

I will wait to finish your topic first

[smoky flame]

also, that is really cool. All that experience as a computer engineer, devrimer 🙂

[livid seal]

yeah 🙂 thanks mate

I am holding myself not to click buy button for xbox series x

😄

[smoky flame]

I'm not sure a firmware update will be required. What monitor you using Snack?

[coarse pond]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/#:~:text=NVIDIA Graphics Firmware Update Tool for DisplayPort 1.3, English (US) 1 more rows

[smoky flame]

best not hold yourself back too long or they'll sell out and you will miss your chance to purchase a console until another time

[coarse pond]

this firmware update says if theres blank screen issues with display port that might solve it

the lg27gl83a is the monitor i was using

[livid seal]

yes mate make that update

[livid seal]

yes I am really ready to buy now 😄 but is there something bad on that xbox ? like kb and mice using an issue? and I will play warzone nonstop. is there lag or mice working working normal ?

[smoky flame]

ok, yeah. Give that update a try when you can, Snack and hopefully it allows you to use displayport again 🙂
afaik mouse and keyboard work just fine on console. Besides that though I don't know much on the Series X past the hardware it uses. I only play on PC so I'd be the wrong person to ask questions about the Series X

[livid seal]

okay mate, thank you a lot for your comments. but pc components are just awesome 😄 at least one week reaserch and youtube videos 😄

[smoky flame]

heh yeah. I love PC hardware. Though it doesn't really take me a week to decide on things. Back when AMD announced the Ryzen 5000 series CPUs and Radeon RX 6000 series GPUs I was all set on a system with one of each inside. Fast forward to December I get teh 5600X and some other parts and build that up. Fast forward again to late June this year and I added the monstrous 6800 XT Red Devil and it really is a beast. Has blown me away so far. So much so I'm looking at upgrading to a 4K 120Hz OLED TV! 😄

[livid seal]

😄 😄 ahahah

money money always funny 😄

prices double 😄 omg

[smoky flame]

the Red Devil cost me £1200 when I bought it. Luckily I sold my old GPU shortly after and I offset what I got for that against what I paid for the Red Devil and that brings the cost down to £840. Bought the new card used (but not from ebay) so wanted to give it a once over, make sure everything was legit before selling my old GPU and everything appears to be as I'd expect of a GPU. Immaculate condition. I swear, it could pass off as new. Everything was still there and stuff. I feel I really lucked out. One of those "it was meant to be" type of scenarios

[livid seal]

yeah you were really lucky. bravo mate.

[molten bluff]

Hello, I am trying to connect my xbox 360 controller with my pc using wired connection. The controller is just blinking but not connecting. Can you help me solve it?

[dusty vector]

Is it a wired controller or are you trying to use a wireless controller with a play and charge cable?

Because the latter won’t work

[molten bluff]

I don't have any wireless receivers. I just have a wired controller cable and xbox 360 controller.

which has play and charge

[dusty vector]

Won’t work

[molten bluff]

Ok thank you.

[dusty vector]

The play and charge cable for 360 only carries power, it doesn’t carry data.

The wireless controllers can only connect wirelessly

[molten bluff]

Ok, but will it work if there is a wireless receiver?

[dusty vector]

If it’s a 360 wireless receiver, it should.

[molten bluff]

Ok thank you.

[full flint]

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-dlss-free-download/

[full flint]

https://youtu.be/qej76srlFh0

NVME 2.0 specs released

[smoky flame]

just in time for pcie 5.0/gen 5 NVMe

[full flint]

you mean PCIe Gen 6.0

both 5.0 and 6.0 are/were on track for this year

I'd imagine 6.0 and even 5.0 might get pushed back into next year though given everything going on

[smoky flame]

I thought Alder Lake was to feature pcie 5.0 support?

[full flint]

the cpu supports it, doesn't mean it's going to be available

[smoky flame]

I'll never understand the whole pcie standards btw. So far it has been found out that even the latest GPUs don't appear to make any additional use of pcie 4.0 over 3.0. NVMes on the other hand have gotten faster though. Will 5.0 and 6.0 provide anything new for GPUs or will it be much the same?

[full flint]

pcie4.0 changes will be things like direct storage

[smoky flame]

that's also available on 3.0 though

[full flint]

for the NVME, yes

basically it'll support both, but one will be much faster

https://youtu.be/vZ_2kRO-RPg

higher is always better

because your gpu, your drives, your nvme, your gpu, the USB ports, all utilize lanes

if you have less room, then you'll encounter throttling. currently on Gen4. PCIe Lanes are commonly shared

meaning average motherboards with 2 NVME ports and 6 SATA 3.0 ports, will only be able to use 4 of those SATA ports if they have 2 NVME

[smoky flame]

side note, I knew that video! ||Motherboard dropped!||

[full flint]

because the 5th and 6th SATA port will share the bandwidth that PCIe slot 2 for NVME (or GPU) uses

meaning if you have a second x16 or M.2, you can't use 2 sata drive ports since the bandwidth is average shared

the new improvements are doing to affect directstorage, and most workstation-grade tasks more than gaming

but it's also like DX11 to 12

things take time to get optimized for newer pipelines

[smoky flame]

hmm I see too bad there wasn't a way to get a custom pcb where SATA ports could be removed to reduce limits and stuff. I'd go completely SATA-less tbh. Already have the SATA ports disabled in the BIOS since I don't have anything to connect to them

[full flint]

SATA are quite important for bulk storage

[smoky flame]

I know, just with NVMe taking over I won't be surprised to see the exclusion of SATA ports on some motherboards in the not too distant future. Have any motherboard manufacturers tried it yet?

[full flint]

NVME 2.0 is extending to SATA

[smoky flame]

that is an odd move considering SATA's speed caps. I'll watch that techquickie video in a bit btw

[full flint]

you mean the enterprise drives with 500-700MB/s Sequential R/W speeds?

which is more than SATA 3 or the same as SATA SSD

[smoky flame]

yeah, that is way slower than even NVMe gen 3. I don't get why they would bring SATA into it when NVMe in its current form factor looks so future proof. Already seeing capacities up to 8TB on a storage about the size of a thumb. Might not come cheap just now but that should be alarm bells for SATA based storage imo. About to go extinct, like floppy discs and other storage solutions of the past

[full flint]

NVMe gen 3 doesn't exist

PCIe gen 3 exists, but that's unrelated as that's split between M.2 ports, x16, and SATA

it doesn't matter if it's slower, it's fast for mechanical drives, and data centers aren't going to be using M.2 drives

[blissful shard]

no

[full flint]

Is role playing allowed

Like can I say I’m squidward