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Being on your own isn’t a qualification to me
If you have a team around you, great. Most people aren’t smart enough to do that.
a team is one thing but an entire company is a different story entirely
Louis Rossman does his videos himself, despite having his shop.
Jay's in that middle ground. LinusMediaGroup is a production company
i just say content creator over youtubers because it sounds better
i mean in a way you could call them educators too
Do even people use AMD GPUs?
cool
Nice. Me too
All this news recently has me super excited because I'm saving up to build a pc before winters end
Gonna be my first ever build 
Good time to build a PC now with Nvidia set to launch new GPUs and AMD announcing both new CPUs (October 8th) and GPUs (October 28th)
Really makes me glad me building a pc got delayed a bit
Agreed, good time to be a PC gamer with new hardware just around the corner.
same, i'm gonna be doing my first build before the end of the year too lol
Looks like the 3080 is smaller and thinner than the 2080TI @ the 6:35 min mark and shorter than the 2070 Super @ 7:24 min mark
Noice
Oh my goodness! 1tb too!
How much did you get that bad boy for?
I picked up a 500gb wd black a few weeks ago for $60 i think. I like it!
Can't really tell that much of a difference between my ssd for games, really.
970 Evo Plus 1Tb is $150-170 USD atm
that's not bad. i picked up a 500gb gen 4 corsair one recently for $105
I needed volume for now
yeah i still need something else for mass storage for games, not sure if i wanna get a seagate hdd or just get a sata drive
Corsair uses Samsung Flash anyway
So I figured why not just go with name
It’s just my bedroom build anyway
low-mid B550 TUF mobo and a 3700x
i was thinking about something similar to that for my build lol
tuf boards are pretty good
I mean yeah but seems like they generally have good vrm and performance and can do a bit of overclocking
i was considering the x570 one for a while
over the other asus x570 boards anyways, if you're not planning on doing some serious overclocking for gaming the tuf boards are pretty great, well that's just from the reviews i've seen anyways
ASUS Prime doesn’t exist
If we think hard enough it can vanish. TUF are now the entry models. Lol
I’d take TUF over STRIX usually. But it sucks cause STRIX usually have more capabilities
oh yeah the prime board, i see lots of people using that one for white builds
Non STRIX ROG line are the better ones imo
i was considering the strix e-gaming board too, i'm just ocd af and want to match my motherboard with my gpu and the strix design for the 3080 is kinda meh to me
I thought about doing that with my build when I started too but going all Asus would have worked out very expensive. Would rather just go for something that works. If I can save money you bet I will, provided it doesn't completely compromise the rest of my system that is
970 Evo Plus 1Tb is $150-170 USD atm
@full flint wow, that’s a good deal! I need a 2TB version though 👀
I agree, ASUS + Corsair make a good pairing
Cheapest I can see is £365
Usually it’s around £380-£390
Hmmm, I might just go for it.
Yeah, went for it, had my eye on it for a while now.
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i had a dream that my old potato pc had like god motherboard and cpu but the gpu was GT710 and i didnt know that my pc was like a quad gt710 and godly stuff. Lol
What graphics settings is optimal for the gtx 1650 in flight sim 2020
@surreal moss to hell with the 3080
8K 3090 benchmarks from EVGA using the kingpin card.
imagine the performance at 1080p
Bruh I ain’t got kingpin money gtfo
No
lol
That card is easily going to be 1800-2000
I still have to buy a new cpu+mobo to match as well as a 360hz panel
When people argue that NVME, or even SATA SSD doesn't matter:
And that's only a Gen3 PCIe M.2 (slotted in a Gen4 Port)
its only because consoles are using custom storage solutions faster than even SATA SSD that people are suddenly after the fastest storage possible on PC. Just a few years ago I remember getting told not to touch NVME even though its speeds are greater I apparenly wouldn't have noticed as big a difference in game load times going from SATA SSD to NVME compared to HDD to SSD. Such comments clearly didn't age too well
just need NVMe prices to somehow drop far enough so I can get 2TB then I too can go and ditch both SSD and HDD. Gen 4 NVMe still pretty pricey though
That's....not even remotely what I mean
what did you mean? Also what are the other storages? I can figure out the SSD and HDD but what about the even slower ones?
the slow ones are HDD
and I meant in general people stating that SSD aren't a requirement for improving game's loads and performance to the CPU.
despite the disparity in I/O on even a SATA SSD
The 970 is NVMe SSD
The C400 is SATA SSD
Anything over 100MB/s is a 7200RPM HDD, the others are less
970 EP is a fantastic NVMe
I believe one of the fastest, if not the fastest, at PCIE 3.0
Those 3090 benchmarks are insane
I think EVO Pro is faster iirc
And indeed, will be incredible to see 1080p/1440p/2160p
Depends
EVO PRO in 970 I don’t think is
The 980 yes because it’s just come out and based on 4.0
I think !
I could be wrong though!
980 is 4.0, yes
Yeah, thought so
Pro is much faster
Will be interesting to see that mature
It is, 2x I think?
I know Linus did a video of some memory that was RIDICULOUS
I think it was like 15,000 MB/s !!
depends on size though
yes. that's a GIGABYTE AORUS....PCIe x16 RAID SSD
idk the actual model
but it's based on Gen4 and uses a full x16 slot. requires RAID0 and Bifurcation
(which my new bedroom computer supports) but also seemingly requires a Threadripper to even be able to handle it.
there are many things I still wonder about these 1080p 360Hz monitors. Even though it is 1080p just how many games will actually hit such FPS and aren't limited either by CPU or game engines. I'm not even sure a system with a 10900K + 3090 could consistently push 360 FPS in a majority of titles even at 1080p. Definitely geared towards esports and competitive gamers who play certain types of games
not to mention the whole RTX 30 series is marketed with 4K in mind so 1080p should be all but dead. We finally have GPUs that should be capable of handling 4K gaming nicely rather than sub-60 FPS slideshow experiences
I think I've walking into the whole esports marketing hype things a couple too many times but annoyingly how can you avoid it on PC? Seems just about every company that does monitors supports at least one esports event, team or individual. Like my old Asus monitor, the PG248Q was ESL One 2016 and "The International 2016" now I have a monitor backed by some "T1" esports team. I don't follow esports like I used to so I do apologize if these guys are really good in their respective game
the diminishing returns from 240hz to 360hz really shows, linus did a video on it comparing 144hz, 240hz and 360hz that you can search up to see more about it
it was on his 360hz monitor review
Ok casual
I'm not a fan of esports really tbh, not really my cup of tea. I am interested in getting the most enjoyable gaming experience though
it's roughly a savings of 1.4ms each frame from 240 to 360 tho from linus's testings
how noticeable will that be to most gamers? As is I can't notice much difference between 144Hz and 240Hz and that's a bigger leap than 240Hz to 360Hz
It’s not about what you notice
It’s about what you feel
It’s about how you perform
Thank u apple
Yeah, it probably won't help out most people that much going from 240hz to 360hz unless you're someone like Shroud to where that extra little bit can help in situational fights where the most up-to-date information can make a tiny bit difference. Definitely not the worth the extra money though unless you're that kind of gamer
Money is irrelevant when chasing advantage for people who care about it the most
That's what I mean, unless you're someone like Shroud where you're competing then yeah
You don’t have to compete or be shroud to enjoy fluid motion and advantage
The panel will be immensely popular in the sweaty amateur scene
I mean it's totally fine if people that aren't competing and just like that type of things too if they want it no one is stopping them from doing that. You can't say for sure if it will really help them all that much though depending on the skillset of the person
That’s a whole different argument
Not everyone can push equipment to its full use, but that doesn’t mean it won’t improve their current skills
Theoretically, you always improve
Yeah that's true, it just all depends. There's some competitive players that are really good at certain games too that still use 60hz
But a lot of them just say it's because that's what they are comfortable with since that's what they've always played on
And they’re willingly giving up on improvement as a result
I too enjoy not growing my skill ceiling
I wasn't really disagreeing with you. It isn't always just better tech though that'll improve your skills, lot of improvements still rely in the player itself rather than the tech
Not necessarily true
I mean like you could still have the best everything and not be as good as you'd like to be. I honestly didn't see much of a difference myself going from 60hz xbox to pc 144hz gaming but there could be other reasons for it
Your skill is a sum of your invested ecosystem. You can only grow your mechanical skills to as far as your equipment allows. You can only utilize your equipment as far as your mechanical skills allow. It’s not one more than the other
I also used to just play cod on xbox and eventually made a jump to pc
However it’s easy to bottleneck your skills if you have bad equipment, so that’s why it’s important to invest, even if you can’t utilize them immediately. Sometimes the reason you can’t is because the current equipment you’re using isn’t good enough to let you shine
Don’t look at something and say “I’m not good enough to utilize that”. Instead ask yourself “how much farther could I push myself if I had it”
Maintain your champion’s mentality
you could be a motivational speaker 😂
But yeah I know what you mean I get that. I just think there could be diminishing returns from higher and higher hz and frames depending on the type of competitive games you're playing
I used to be very competitive in cod but now I just play competitively in WoW
If I’m on 360 and you’re on 240 (assuming we had equal skill), I’m going to see things before you, react faster than you, aim better than you, and win.
Well yeah, of course
Linus has a very good video on hfr gaming
there are many things I still wonder about these 1080p 360Hz monitors. Even though it is 1080p just how many games will actually hit such FPS and aren't limited either by CPU or game engines. I'm not even sure a system with a 10900K + 3090 could consistently push 360 FPS in a majority of titles even at 1080p. Definitely geared towards esports and competitive gamers who play certain types of games
@smoky flame i have no issues doing 360+ in any MP game at 1080p, especially with the new 3090, will be easier.
the diminishing returns from 240hz to 360hz really shows, linus did a video on it comparing 144hz, 240hz and 360hz that you can search up to see more about it
@coarse pond Linus test was a flaw, you can read on it about they didn’t do the UFO test correctly
I'm not a fan of esports really tbh, not really my cup of tea. I am interested in getting the most enjoyable gaming experience though
@coarse pond anyone who wants to play MP at a high level, wants the smoothest experience, will benefit. I’m very sensitive to this, so with 50% extra frames, there will be a difference and I will pick up on it / the benefits are worth paying for even if it’s the 4% Nvidia say or more.
I'll be happy if I get a reasonable gaming experience minus screen tearing. Don't mind adding a little latency when stuff like Freesync and Gsync exist. Tear free gaming regardless of framerate just looks so good on the eyes. Could never go without it now. Still less latency added compared to what enabling Vsync in game adds I believe and idk if I will actually ever reach 240 FPS at 1440p. Certainly not doing it at the settings I play at on my current hardware. Not expecting either the 3080 or 3090 to do it either as I will probably be held back by my CPU anyway
btw, is it just me or does 1080p look pretty bad on a 1440p display?
I never had an issue hitting 240 on 1440p
And 1080p is only really acceptable on a >25” screen and a good quality IPS one at that.
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I ran C20 on a new stable 5ghz I found and it immediately surpassed 90C package
I turned off the powerlimits so it literally sat at 250W for a solid 20 seconds
Never doing benchmarking again at this level but it was fun watching it crush with just 12 threads
MCC boot screen was at 3300 FPS
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anyone who wants to play MP at a high level, wants the smoothest experience, will benefit. I’m very sensitive to this, so with 50% extra frames, there will be a difference and I will pick up on it / the benefits are worth paying for even if it’s the 4% Nvidia say or more.
@devout remnant that's why i said unless you're someone like shroud, meaning someone that competes and plays competitively at a high tier to where you could really benefit from it, otherwise I just think it isn't worth the money. Especially if you have to have a 3090 to even hit those frames
also what do you mean you never had issues hitting 240 on 1440p? is this on low/medium settings and/or on older games?
@coarse pond you don’t need to be Shroud. Anyone who plays at a high level will benefit.
It’s not worth the money because it’s brand new tech and expensive.
But IMO, it’s the best MP monitor you can buy.
So for people like me, cost isn’t an issue.
And I meant any MP game,
Mostly High Settings,
Some on Ultra (Character Models)
Some on Medium,
I can get 240+ no problem.
do i get the forza standard or ultimate?
you don’t need to be Shroud. Anyone who plays at a high level will benefit.
It’s not worth the money because it’s brand new tech and expensive.
But IMO, it’s the best MP monitor you can buy.
@devout remnant Again, I didn't say you had to be exactly like Shroud in terms of skill, I said someone LIKE him as in he's someone that plays almost nothing but competitive games and played competitively at a high tier, which is exactly what I said before, as in anyone at a high rank in CSGO, Valorant or Overwatch.
You can be low skilled but still enjoy the best hardware.
It’s not always just about competing.
For people that aren't necessarily at that level of skill I don't see how it would be worth it as much, especially if they don't have the budget for that.
If you’re considering it, then I’m sure you can afford it. It’s a very niche target audience.
It would probably be better for them to practice more or start small and work their way up.
That’s besides the point, everything costs money & that’s a display for the long term.
Why work your way up?
£400-£500 for a decent display
I know, I just meant at this exact point in time
I mean, a 144hz isn't bad, not even bad for starting small in competitive play
A lot more than any other MP display
I don't care what anyone says, 1080 is not future proofed
^
because in several years we'll see similar refresh rates hit 1440p
Obviously not referring to resolution 🙄
and eventually 4k
Considering 4k monitors really didn't come out until 2013/2014
and we're already at 144hz
If you think we’re going to see 1440p 360 in the next few years then idk
You're forgetting tech-curves exist
7-8 years is a long time.
Each subsequent tech takes half as long to mature
That's why we're already getting 8k displays
And even still, DP 2.0 is needed for those 4K screens, only now DSC is a thing.
1080p had been around for 20 years prior to 2013
8K displays aren’t for gamers for a good while yet.
My main game is WoW and I play a ton of end game and mythic raiding and run on the LG 1440p 144hz monitor that I picked up for $380
4k has been around for 10
@coarse pond you’re not the target for 360Hz screens then
so again, if you think it WON'T hit 1440p sooner than later, you're very much mistaken.
I promise you it will
Then he’s not the target market/consumer.
I know, I already said what the target market is and you said it too lol
So your points are irrelevant 😅
144hz has been around for less time than 4k
meaning the adoption curve for 4k 144hz was half of that
Not really.. I wasn't even trying to make the point you're thinking, was talking about a different conversation entirely
This is simple statistics and tech-watch
Not really
yes really
The tech needs to catch up, you think 4K 144Hz is mainstream?
Steam did a survey and it’s single digits, closer to 0% then it is to 10%
Of gamers actually using a 4K screen
It's not about what's mainstream
Because right now, GPUs are just about what’s making it useful
you think tech will wait for something to be largely adopted to advance?
that's called complacency
No, it has to have a audience to sell too
LG could make a 1,000Hz 4K screen right now
Yes it does
it's theoretical
Displays go over that
You think they don’t exist?
You should research into it 😅
CRT are "theoretically" infinite due to how they function
but they still have a limit
we have 1000hz sensors
we don't have 1000hz display tech
NVIDIA and ASUS are the ones who are doing the most research into it
but it's not currently possible
There are displays out there capable of doing it right now, and if it was going to be a thing mainstream, LG could do it right now.
we have an AR Display that's experimental
which runs at 16000hz
but that's not standard panel-tech
Read the article: http://www.roadtovr.com/nvidia-demonstrates-experimental-16000hz-ar-display/
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so, considering they slate 1000hz as not feasible until 2030 (NVIDIA and ASUS reps words) then no
the tech is not currently possible. it's all in research phase
Consumer wise no
in general
Which is my point
Panel-tech is far from 1000hz
Thank you, my point 🙏
you're literally echoing what I said
For an end product yes
Doesn’t mean they couldn’t make one right now, it’s two different things.
for a viable example
they could start the research now, but that's not the same as "making one"
"making one" means they could produce an example product
It’s having a display able to refresh that high, because OLED doesn’t have the limitations.
They could literally have one ready if they wanted to but I don’t work for them so can’t really comment but a few billion dollars would help for sure.
Companies don’t rush into making it a thing because there’s stepping stones.
that's...no
You think they can’t from your limited knowledge
Unless you know exactly how LG Display works
If they plan to have 1000hz by 2030, then logically 360hz would be a lot more mature by then, and we'd see it adopted on more than just 1080p
That alone is how these "stepping stones" that you're clinging to here works
I never said it would be in 4k in several years. Simply 1440p
4-5 years I can see 1440p 360Hz being a thing.
3-4
By then, I expect 1080p480Hz
So you’re always going to be chasing something
And my whole original point was
1440p@240 exists now, it's just flawed
360Hz is going to be the best you can get for a while, if you’re looking at buying a display today - it’s going to future proof your purchase.
Why is it flawed?
motion smearing
My display from last year was flawless
Was zero smearing whatsoever.
Mine wasn’t VA
I'm being general
It was 2nd Gen TN which is 90% quality of IPS colour wise
some models are better than others
Well, they’re the two options, I would never go VA
Until IPS versions arrive soon.
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Some might say that it's the new Crysis. Flight Simulator 2020 pushes GPU and indeed CPU hardware in a way we've never seen before. Even on optimised settings, a 2080 Ti cannot lock to 4K 60fps across the entire game, so where does that leave the new RTX 3080? Let's just say i...
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yeah i watched that linus video earlier this morning, watching that jay one now. waiting for the release tomorrow
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Why is there a pc gaming channel for xbox
Because there are a lot of Xbox Game Studios games on PC. Also PC Game Pass.
And, why not?
oh ok
Also just a BUNCH of Xbox stuff like apps, game bar, etc. are on PC
Because Xbox is not just a console anymore
Weak Boost on the Strix from factory, will be interesting to see Zotac’s and the Kingpins.
be weary on strix. look into their reviews first
some strix will have really bad performance (worse than stock)
others may have driver-conflicts
I wasn't really a fan of the strix design anyways
the gigabyte aorus ones looks really nice and with the oled screen coming on it too might be my pick
yeah i think the last gen version of the kingpin did too
don't think i wanna pay for a kingpin tho
looking for an apex paartner
Surprisingly, my OLED on my Mobo has practically had the same graphic showing for like, 1.5 years now?
No burn in, must be so many hours.
I wasn't really a fan of the strix design anyways
@coarse pond same, this years GPUs are very ugly aesthetically imo
FE cards are the way to go
Nothing beats that Aorus Extreme 2080 Ti for me, I miss mine.
FE cards ugly too
And performance will be good, but not the best, however, for a lot of people, yes, they hitting 2GHz
wonder what time the cards will release at
Now we wait
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Will cyberpunk2077 ran well on rx580 ?
I’m sure it’ll be playable, yes.
It be 60fps?
You can turn settings down to make it stable.
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Can someone help me out, so I want to get a new monitor for next gen xbox, but supposedly next gen xbox supports hdmi 2.1 which is very hard to find on current monitors, so lets say i buy a 1440p 144hz monitor with hdmi 2.0 what should I expect it to run like on the new xbox, thanks
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@full flint You do realise that there isn't any HDMI monitors/TV's released yet right?
The first monitor to be revealed to have 2.1 ports was in August
And you can use hdmi 2.0 cables in 1.4 ports, same goes for all types of ports.
There are TVs with HDMI 2.1
I've not seen any just yet, if that's so my bad but I'm positive that there are no 2.1 monitors yet.
Pre-orders are available for monitors, but they're not due until around January.
But there are some LG and Samsung TVs with HDMI 2.1. They're pretty expensive, though.
It's more about the cable connectivity.
Yeah I'd expect them to be.
But yeah overall a 2.1 TV/Monitor really isnt needed hence the reasoning on why all the HDMI 2.1 TV's/Monitors aren't really released just yet and when they will be next gen would have happened. You'd be running the new xbox at it's max capabilities, 120hz and in your case 1440p.
Alright so can anyone help me? I am trying to play SOT and it keeps saying I need to be connected to xbox live which I am connected to wifi? I may have deleted it is there a way to download xbox live?
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Question about the Xbox app. I tell it to install my games on my G drive, which is my secondary drive. But everytime I install a game it does so on the primary drive.
How do I fix this??
But yeah overall a 2.1 TV/Monitor really isnt needed hence the reasoning on why all the HDMI 2.1 TV's/Monitors aren't really released just yet and when they will be next gen would have happened. You'd be running the new xbox at it's max capabilities, 120hz and in your case 1440p.
@hybrid tundra
2.1 is needed for VRR on Xbox. It also allows 4K 120Hz HDR 10-bit. Monitors coming soon, TVs have had it since 2019.
If you’re looking to buy, you might as well hold off until you can get one of those.
Question about the Xbox app. I tell it to install my games on my G drive, which is my secondary drive. But everytime I install a game it does so on the primary drive.
How do I fix this??
@hallow knot some games need to be installed on main drive, you can't change it
Yes
Would a hdmi to display Port adapter work?
i just played halo for the first time
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@barren knot Yes, it should do.
That's what I was thinking
someone know how to fix that the xbox game bar doesnt work when i play valorant? i want to record but it doesnt work (the xbox game bar) and when i press the shortcut to record (windows key + alt + r) it doesnt work also.
someone know how to fix it?
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I was never apart of the gpu shortages in the early days of the new gpu. What sort of time frames am I going to see when trying to get the 30 series
these were posted yesterday
I know I just dont understand specs I'm still green in the pc realm
Imagine thinking reposting it will somehow get a different result @tall fog
i dont need it
i buying the 3080
I'd never recommend anyone buy a 20 series card
they're too expensive for the performance offerings
not rn
but when the price drops
I have my sights on asus 3080 cards
they aren't even really comparable to desktop GPU in price or performance
idk which i want
laptops are laptops
@full flint 4k 60 fps on most games
they aren't even really comparable to desktop GPU in price or performance
@full flint when the price drop
to be fair i over clocked my laptop
Then they'll just be lower performance for nearly the same rating as the lower-end 30 series GPU
there's going to be a 3060 and likely a 3050
oh
they might forgo the 3050 though
i hate scalpers
@full flint great source of heat during winter right?
@azure flicker meh i just use a fan to cool it but ye it gets toasty but cooler then a 1050ti
pc/gaming co's need to add lobbies and captchas like sneaker releases have
they wouldn't sell much then
online is the future
online sales are a majority of revenue now
online is here to stay
i will most likely never walk into a retail store again except to buy food
microsoft isnt gonna pull a nintendo with false scarcity
I barely even walk into a store for food either anymore
Super easy to just order them online and get all groceries delivered over here
yeah valid. lately our walmart pickups have been missing items due to supply chain constraints. and with 2 kids i gotta go in and get the things the robot doesnt pick
Yeah I gotta go out sometimes too to get items I can't order
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I wouldn't say you'd only be able to get a 30 series next year, they did say they was going to have a lot more stock next month including the 3070 cards too. They are air flying stock in now since demand is high. All according to Nvidia though, who really knows how much of it is true
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Guys yous know much about monitors?
Cause im a noob and I need some help
Lets say that I have a monitor thats hdmi 1.4 and a monitor thats hdmi 2.0 but both monitors have the exact same specs
Will they both run the same
HDMI 1.4 only supports 30fps at 4K, but HDMI 2.0 supports 4K at 60fps
2.1 is 120fps right?
4K/120, yes
HDMI 1.4 is capable of 1440p@75, 1080p@144 and as Rhinne said 4K@30
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pc gamer here
anyone know why win alt m wont mute my mic on game bar?

looks like the 3090 definitely isn't good value for money. Glad I picked up the 3080 when I did
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wait you actually managed to get a 3080?
You’re also paying for capability in other functions

I managed to order one yeah. So only a matter of time before I get it. I don't mind waiting
and yeah XLR8, i get that it has other uses but the 3090 appears to only manage to beat the 3080 in gaming and synthetic benchmarks by around 9% on average. 3080 looks crazy value for money right now
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@smoky flame we haven’t really seen any OC
And they’re probably standard cards
20% is a big chunk and with OC will be higher
I agree that the 3080 is the one to get for value for gaming
But 10GB is really pushing it for 4K gaming, it’s fine now, but games are demanding more.
The 20GB version will be better depending on price.
Just too early to tell until we know everything
I hate staggered launches for this reason 😅
@amber falcon ?
Game pass for pc literally exists
anybody else have issues when you use windows to calibrate your controller?
@full flint what did you buy
PS peeps are going crazy right now hahaha
If you're generally worried about your vram then it would probably be better to wait for a 3080/3070 ti/super with more vram or wait to see how the AMD card performs, which is being rumored for 16GB of vram
that's if you can afford to wait though.
whats ifruit?
friendly reminder to snatch up free epic games games like football manager and watch dogs you probably already have these games
@topaz patio watch dogs 2 ??
IM a a building
Ur a building lol whaa
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how long are these games free @topaz patio
there´s an 300$ pc series s killer
I’m sure it’s not a series s killer
where is this $300 series s killer?

gamer?
i m desperate to finally have what i m looking for so please tell me that someone have a way to get the "original 43" for fallout 3
i know this might just be asking for a circle jerk by saying this
but xbox scooping up pc gaming means they longterm win.
We don’t allow intelligent takes here
is the 3080 worth the extra money or should i go with the 3070?
im getting the 3070
I just got a PC and I have a 2070 Super but I trying to get my hands on the 3070
Is the rtx 2060 super still worth it?
wait for refreshed models
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my computer keeps randomly clicking so fast and i have zero idea what it is
like ill be doing nothing and it just randomly starts clicking and this circle pops up where it clicks
and i dont know how to fix it, its not a virus because i factory reset my pc and it still happens
i have no idea what it is and whats causing it
help plz 
anyone here wanna play bedwars java?
Y'all i need some help-
I downloaded the xbox beta whatever so i could download ARK through PC gamepass and whenever i press install i get a dark grey pop-up with literally nothing on it besides the X button

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yeah the 2060 super can still be worth it, if you're paying like less than 150/200 for it. That's assuming it'll be new too.
$499 for better than 2080ti performance in the 3070 and $699 for double/almost double 2080 performance are already hard to beat price to performance wise.
hmm
would a 2060 be fine for 1080p gaming?
cause i currently have a 1650 super but i wanna be able to do 120 partially high settings in games for a bit to come
Personally idk. I've been on a msi 1050 ti oc model since 2015 lol
it's been a struggle
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same thing
like, i just got gamepass ultimate
when?
todayu
when did i ask?
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@coarse pond the 2060 or 2070 would be prefect for 1080 gaming bud
I said it was fine. But not as MSRP.
MSRP for the 2060 is almost the same price as the 3070. $100 more and you'll get more than double the performance.
Which will also help a lot when/if they decide to want to do 1440p or run a 360hz monitor
Pc player: Oh 499$ for a new storage card mmk
Xbox players: 499$ for A CONSOLE ARE YOU CRAZY
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PC players are rich tbh
I just got a $1500 PC for the first time like 3 days ago just save up like 2 or 3 pay checks and your good
It evens out. PC = high cost hardware, free online gaming and all the game sales. Console = low cost hardware, online subscription and standard priced games.
yeah pretty much its not helping that that I own like half out the Xbox Store on my Xbox one X lol
omg that 3090 is pretty big
still no word on my Asus TUF 3080. I know stock is poor. Just hope I hear something soon 😦 Really excited for this GPU and the performance gains I'm about to see from it over a 5700 XT. Knowing my luck it will arrive in time for my birthday in less than two weeks. Which tbh I don't mind. That would be awesome but all that waiting and trying to keep myself away from performance figures in the meantime
This is PC channel, so you’re getting a PC now.
lol
That's the one I've been looking to getting. The asus tuf oc model lol
so do yall think that the 3070 will last me all of next gen or will i have to upgrade at some point? i want one that will last me a while
If you want to do 4k the 3070's vram will probably have some issues in the future, otherwise the 3070 will be fine for 1080p and 1440p gaming for 3-4 years at least. I'm not expecting games to really evolve much in that time to bring that card's performance down
what pc case should i get?
A big one
there's so many cases out there, small sizes, medium, large. all just depends on what you want, just look up a bunch of different cases on amazon or newegg and go through and find which one you like the most and make sure its big enough for the parts you want to put inside
anyone here plays cod
If you want to do 4k the 3070's vram will probably have some issues in the future, otherwise the 3070 will be fine for 1080p and 1440p gaming for 3-4 years at least. I'm not expecting games to really evolve much in that time to bring that card's performance down
@coarse pond what about when UnrealEngine 5 comes out? isn't that supposed to be insanely powerful and be coming out relatively soon?
I think the 30 series cards can handle it. It's gonna take some time for games to fully utilize UE5 too.
yeah, and plus most companies probably would want to keep it a little dumbed down for consoles.
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So now I’ll have a 980 500 for the important games and a 970 500 for the others
Motherboard is only pcie 3 but hey
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will the series x xbox have input delay keyboard and mouse
The input delay with keyboard and mouse should be lower then this generation but we don’t know the input delay it would have if any
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Forza Horizon 4 at 8k@60
I'm curious to see the settings used to achieve this 8K 60 FPS on Forza Horizon 4. Game doesn't make use of DLSS so performance can't be improved on without lowering settings
hmm not bad
it will occasionally dip to 45-50 in intense portions
but that'll be ironed out as the drivers (and CPUs) mature
as well as Ti model
at least 8K gaming is now in a "playable" state. Wasn't too long ago I remember Linus trying it (before RTX 30 series was a thing) and turned out pretty bad from what I remember
15-20fps
he still doesn't need Antialiasing though
he had to get really close to the monitor to even see a stairstep on Doom
and that was minimal
(AA off)
which increases performance ofc
which means that TAA can finally DIE
god it's so gross
Yeah, I'm not a fan of TAA either. Worse still if it is baked into the game like it is on Control and The Division 2 I believe
no way to disable it then
It doesn't actually effect it much at higher res
since even baked in TAA scales based on resolution
so it's much worse at lower res
still annoying it can't be disabled though or if it can be done through cfg files it is not recommended. DLSS should cover Control nicely without all the negatives of TAA
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The Division 2 though doesn't (yet at least) support DLSS. Would be awesome if it did though. Could play at maxed settings and FPS wouldn't drop nearly as much as it does. Pretty horrible FPS drops on my 5700 XT at 1440p maxed settings
only way I'm mitigating the FPS drops is lowering resolution scaling in game down to as low as 50% (720p?) but resolution scaling is an odd one with this game
Take a look at Serious Sam 4's Massive legion system which is posted in Croteam's discord.
"So what's our enemy cap--"
"No."
Digital Foundry posted their optimized settings for FS for the 3080
If you're wanting to go entirely maxed out then you should probably go for the 3090, provided you plan to play it a lot
You likely won't need it for any of the games now
and by the time you would need it, there'd be new cards anyway
one of these cards should be enough. Nvidia are killing SLI/NVlink as we knew it. Seems they are going down the AMD crossfire route
tbh I won't be surprised if it is killed off completely within a year after that
It's going to be supported, but only on higher-end cards
it was never for gaming to begin with
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK Motherboard
32 GB DDR4 RAM
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070
Samsung SATA 1 TB SSD
EVGA 850 Watt Power Supply
Montech ATX Mid-Tower PC Gaming Case
Sceptre Monitor 144 Hz
What do y'all think of this build I'm saving up for?
if you're getting a B550 just go for an M.2
3090 also doesn't appear to be good value for money but if you are rolling in cash with no care then 3090 appears to be the best you can get, at least at this time and if you can actually get one. Half expecting stock to be fewer than the 3080
most would suggest avoiding MSI boards for their quality
3090 is a steal for the audience it's targeted at, and I'm not referring to "8k gaming"
Hm. I see.
Half of your ram specs aren’t listed
and if you're trying to push a lot of FPS in competitive games, that 3700X will bottleneck you
especially with a 3070
Also AMD is unveiling new processors in literally 2 weeks.
yep
So you’ll either be able to get a better processor at the same price or a 3700x for way cheaper
yeah, definitely a steal when compared to a Titan RTX but seeing reports that the 3090 only manages to beat the 3080 by around 9% on average across difference types of benchmarks really doesn't sound good
that's the thing about benchmarks
they don't really show much
Also AMD is unveiling new processors in literally 2 weeks.
Yes, someone told me that as well. 😅
raw computational performance =/= actual performance
October 8th
these weren't all gaming benchmarks XLR8
in actual use the 3090 blasts past the 3080
I'd sure hope it does
GPU stress tests aren’t accurate benchmarks to GPU horsepower
but it's meant for creative prosumers
you aren't getting 40-70FPS in 8k games running at high on a 3080
at all
nor anywhere near it
you're both Core as well as Memory limited
Also one thing everyone is completely missing is that even though the FPS marks are 10% higher, the 3090 has so much raw performance bandwidth that when the 3080 drops in FPS the 3090 drops not nearly as much, creating up to a 30% FPS differential
core limited? memory limited I could understand. 10GB vs 24GB. Huge difference there
I really want to play Halo Infinite & the new Forza Motorsport in the best performance possible.
But everyone just looks at $ per frame
10496 vs 8704
24GB vs 10GB
Well if you’re looking at the best performance possible you shouldn’t be getting AMD
new games are going to make use of SMT
so that's kinda moot going with intel at this rate
games like Crysis Remastered would be a better match with Intel
We’ll cross that bridge when we actually get there
since it still relies heavily on single-core performance
thing is there isn't that much of a difference between the 3080 and 3090 in raw compute power. There is a far bigger gap between the 3070 and 3080 iirc
Wrong 
I'm going by techpowerup's GPU database figures. Good old "on paper" and teraflops figures
should still give some indicatipn to how a GPU performs in workloads that demand this performance the most
Think about it. 1.4x the vram plus Thousands more cores plus 25% bigger bus
people never calculate the bus
that's where they screw up
sure, 1.4x the vram, that's its own thing
1800 more cores on its own doesn't look too impressive
until you realize that the bus is going from 320bit to 384bit
that's a massive increase in throughput
3090 sits at 35.58 teraflops, 3080 is 29.77 teraflops and 3070 is 20.31 teraflops. Might not be the best figure to go by but that 3070 to 3080 difference is definitely something
You have to add everything, not just go “ok everything looks 10-15% bigger so the GPU must be 10-15% more powerful
936GBps against 760GBps
That’s the easiest way to get it in your head
that's a massive increase
because memory bus matters way more than honestly anything else
3090 still seems so over the top then and if this GPU is for more than gaming why isn't it in a lineup more suited to its use? Last I checked Geforce RTX was a gaming lineup. Wouldn't Quadro be more suitable for these other uses?
it is over the top
no one's saying it's not
but it's only over the top when it comes to gaming
as soon as you use it for what it's truly designed for
it becomes standard in performance
They know rock heads will pay double the amount for 10% more frames
And they can market it as a creator device at the same time
Two birds one fat paycheck
or for the creator, an extreme steal
I was close to waiting on the 3090 and trying to snag one on a two year finance. Glad I didn't if its biggest gains can only be found in non gaming use or 8K gaming
Anything higher
I'm guessing these Ti cards will be Nvidia's answer to RDNA 2?
Probably
3070Ti is a direct competitor to AMD's higher end, yeah
AMD's response is just more DDR6
Lul
since DDR6X is NVIDIA only
When I saw gddr6x was nvidia/micron I was like oh.. AMD toast
yayyy..licensing exclusivity deals
it's very possible that this may be the last iteration of Radeon cards
something I wonder though. 20GB on a 3080. Won't it be slower than the 10GB model or is it very likely using the same board as the 3090?
Wat
no mention of it being a Ti. Just "3080 20GB" so far

Let’s be real
It’s a ti
And they’re gonna name it ti
Because people are gonna buy it
they don't mem-split higher end cards
that's only for lower end xx60 models
it's def a Ti
Also if bigger version of 3070 = 3070ti then bigger version of 3080 =
so if it is a Ti it will recieve even more cores etc on top of. Just not a double of memory and other stuff like that? Now I'm mad... Will be watching on potentialy a month or so later as Nvidia make a less than 3 month old 3080 look old with the announcement of a 3080 Ti
yeah. I think I have fallen for the 3080 hype too fast. Guaranteed this Ti will end up playing out as a 3090 killer. Like how the 1080 Ti initially beat the Titan X Pascal before Nvidia later relased the Titan Xp. I can see a really nasty 48GB Titan coming and it will be "so much for the 3090 being a Titan-class card when the Titan smashes it"
oh, nah
they're labeling the 3090 as a gaming card now
it'll get the Ti treatment as well, watch
no way they'll let the mid-high compete with flagship
they'll probably do 1.5x or 2.0x memory
36 or 48
Quadro RTX 8000 has 48gb
the new quadros will likely have double the current lineup's
I believe I seen something of an A6000 with 48GB. Was either on Guru3D or Techpowerup
Don’t say 3090ti please
you know it's going to happen 
I just talked myself out of a basic 3090
And it took a lot
it just gives you a bit more time to save up
not sure. It had more CUDA cores than even a 3090. Might be the full fat Ampere. Unless there is something even meaner
10700+ cores
bruh
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Ok stop ordering out.
@full flint best build your own really. Pre built systems often cost extra for the labour and some components within that system may not be all too good
what sort of budget do you have and I'm sure we can talk it through and come up with some configuration that will work nicely
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@full flint you are not an admin, don't change your name to that again. also stop spamming
One more it becomes a mute
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no thanks
is there an lfg server for more than one pc game
is it possible to have my xbox 360 video and audio display through my pc
if you have an audio card with composite or S/PDIF input
xbox is very to much
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@thorny cypress
It's already been handled
anyone seen those ridiculous mice that LOL players use?
Are you talking about the 30/35 Key, keyboards? The mouse's league players use are usually just high DPI and multiple buttons. I'm a league player too. @upbeat garden
@hybrid tundra yeah, seriously though how many side buttons does a mouse need
Many mouses that come with 12 buttons are usually for MOBAs and for all other game types the max you'll need is probably around 4/5 but a lot come with 2/3.
ive seen some LOL esport player with a mouse with 18 side buttons
Yeah but for a mouse that is usually for MOBAs they come with 12 buttons minimum typically.
yeah but you can pretty much program every mechanic to a mouse side button
Mhm.
pc's I mean
Those mouses are useful for mmos too where you have so many abilities that it's just faster and easier to use when macro'd to your mouse
I haz ordered monitor
This bad boy was being sold for 200+ but then I found it cheaper
Steak and lobster

Wierd flex but k
@azure flicker plenty of places in the city 😅 - tbh it’s the drinks that rack up the bill.
Anyway, enjoy the new screen
Just meant it’s really good value at that price.
Yeah it's coming in next week Friday so I'll get to enjoy it pretty soon
Nice, that for me would be a loongggg week, but, worth it in the end 😊
Sameeee, but I’m torn between 3090 & 3080 ....
Can I justify 120% price increase for 10-15% more performance 🤔
I mean if you're loaded with cash why not
Just gotta wait till the 3080s are in stock again
at this point I might just wait for the 3080 20GB edition or 3070 ti tbh
I don’t like wasting the cash, if I can do it.
Has to make sense.
Idk, still time, everything is out of stock and the 20GB 80 is tempting.
ouch
the 3080's are causing CTD
I just watched a video about that
Jay took apart some cards and showed who was cheaping out and who wasn't
this is why going for anything under EVGA or ASUS just aren't worth
those two are pretty much top for quality components
I’m slightly considering Evga this round
But that’s like only if I can’t get an asus and I lose my mind
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question: Favorite mechanical switch.
Mine are cherry mx blues
cherry mx brown i think
so tactile
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idk my keyboard is an IBM Model M, what are those?
novelkeys x kalih cream switches are probably my favorite
that's what i'm gonna be using in my custom keyboard build.. whenever I get around to doing it
Glad I picked an ASUS TUF 3080. Seems that video I found on someone having issues with their Zotac 2080 Ti put me off Zotac just enough that it saved me from walking into a really bad experience. Otherwise I may have ended up getting one of the Zotac cards and guaranteed I would have probably got it by now too. I don't mind waiting but my expectations of ASUS cards may have just gone up a notch or two
glad you saved yourself
hey y’all, do any of y’all recommend a good monitor that’s not to expensive? most i’m willing to spend it $400. i just need one that will run decently 🙂 (i’m prob not gonna be using it for games )
Well if you're not going to be using it for games, I wouldn't reccomend getting a monitor. I'd get a TV unless you plan to do coding/office work/programming etc.
if you're gonna use a tv with your pc you would probably want a tv with more than 60 refresh rate because tv's tend to have slow response times with pcs
You need one with a low response time, it's not going to matter if the refresh rate is high or not if the response time is slow
sounds about right
lmao Linus
Oh man. I want a bathtub setup now. Not for gaming, but that’s a nice setup for movies.
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With all the 3080 issues, somehow feels like won’t be a card in stock to buy for a long while yet...
UK stores are still going through pre orders. Until they clear that stock no one should be able to get new orders in. I'd be really annoyed if people ordered ASUS TUF 3080 after I did and managed to get before me
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wait did they ban this dude for saying that he was disapointed in xbox bc of the logo LOL
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