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#pc-gaming
full flint
Calling myself a genius btw
ye
still
12GBs on 1650 Super
honestly, they'll do a Ti Super line for the 16 series here soon
I'm going to be curious about those for sure
Did you see the rumors about the 2080ti supers
Apparently gonna use the full TU102 piece
Which is kinda strange because the titans will be almost irrelevant
hah
that's what you think
10 gigabytes says they unveil a Titan RTX Super
full flint
Whats with nvidia and putting super on everything?
full flint
What’s with apple and Samsung putting plus and max on everything
Cuz how else are you gonna sell the same product again but slightly better
full flint
Yeah its pointless going from the 2080ti to 2080ti super, but going from 2080ti to 3080ti/3080ti super will probably be a much better option. I do hope they finally ditch the gtx name in favor of rtx, or keep the gtx name for laptops only...
I do think ampere will be similar to volta in that there is no GeForce carss, but if we can get both that would be nice...
https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/19/nvidia-rtx-ray-casting-gameworks-volta-api/
This article was 5 months before the RTX cards were announced. It feels like the super branding came out of nowhere though, although nvidia did post a teaser
shadow anchor
tall cradle
tidal comet
How can i get my microsoft companion notifications while im playing my game?
glossy obsidian
@ e
polar galleon
why is there a pc gaming channel on a console discord
thorny cypress
Xbox is about gaming on both console and PC
polar galleon
oh ight
thorny cypress
and here we chat about games regardless of platform
polar galleon
oh sweet
wispy zenith
was up
full flint
ahhhhhhhh
smoky flame
oh boy. AMD announced the 3990X. 64 cores and 128 threads. 288MB cache and 280w TDP. Obviously its not a gaming CPU. It is madness. No news on core speeds or price as yet
full flint
Yes there is also the 10980xe or whatever from intel avaliable
I assume the 3990x is threadripper and not mainstream ryzen
smoky flame
yup, threadripper
scary to think though Intel's top HEDT CPU has only 18 cores and 36 threads while AMD about to launch "world's first 64 core HEDT CPU". Intel have some serious catching up to do whenever they finally get off the 14nm fab
full flint
HEDT?
smoky flame
high end desktop
full flint
Ah so its different to stuff like Epyc and so on
smoky flame
think so, yeah
full flint
wow threadripper 3970x is insane
topaz patio
hey the new gtx 1650 super came out
full flint
Wondering when the hell super nosense will end
I mean
What’s wrong with improvement
As computer parts in general get cheaper and cheaper, you can afford to up your product performance while keeping costs low
Why not further try to sell the idea that your cards are superior
smoky flame
I know I said I'd stop playing at maxed settings but I got very curious again as to just how well (or poorly) a 1080 Ti could play Metro Exodus at maxed settings + RTX Ultra at 1080p*
It is surprisingly playable. FPS drops below 60 when lighting gets a bit crazy but elsewhere I got as high as mid-80 FPS. They say a 1080 Ti can't do RTX? Well, it can
*1080p was upscaled from 720p and had some sharpening applied (Image Sharpening + GPU Scaling features at work)
full flint
Control is best game to test Ray Tracing
smoky flame
hah yeah. Control is pretty much an RTX benchmark sold as a game
full flint
Computer parts getting cheaper and cheaper? They seem to be getting more expensive, as with other electronics
Unless you mean you get more performance for less...
At least gpus anyway, ryzen is really cheap for what it is
Even adjusted for inflation the launch MSRP of the 1080ti is way less than that of the 2080ti. But for other parts like ram, storage, cpus, monitors, cases etc, they are certainly getting cheaper.
As for mid range and low-end cards too. there is a shift now in what is considered mid-range and what is considered low-end...
devout remnant
2080 Ti crazy prices
£1200 on average for a good one
My water cooled ones were £1500 each
full flint
Yeah no competition and R&D as well as demand probably may justify the price, but a founders edition card is £1149.
I think you can do a diy watercooled card too..
devout remnant
@full flint I watched a really good video on YouTube of how AMD and Nvidia colluded to control prices of GPUs.
Shady stuff.
full flint
What is Nvidia Hopper and CFR?
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-working-on-tile-based-multi-gpu-rendering-technique-called-cfr-checkered-frame-rendering.html
nvm hopper is after ampere
smoky flame
checkered frame rendering I believe is just some fancy jargon
devout remnant
Amphere 7nm going to be lit
full flint
Ampere* lol
smoky flame
Hopper architecture could feature chiplets, like what we see in AMD CPUs https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-next-gen-gpu-hopper-could-be-offered-in-chiplet-design.html
as for CFR. What I understand of it at least. It uses multi-GPU and these GPUs would work off each other through some algorithm to render a full image. Strange one but could make multi-GPUs more relevant going forward
could also be a way to achieve 8K gaming I think
full flint
I think there will be real 8K cards in the future, I mean we had super sampling for 4K...
Or was it something else
Yeah, super resolution or something
smoky flame
All I will say is as exciting as this CFR may sound I wouldn't buy into it. Could well be it only runs on games and programs where multi-GPU is supported and if so it will be limited and a waste of money
smoky flame
"instantly improves your games with 4K-quality graphics" Bit misleading is that not? Sure, it will improve the quality but framerates will get hit as if you are gaming at 4K so unless you enjoy slideshow FPS (30 and below) and "4K" graphics hardly worth touching it
full flint
I just set my render scale to 150% and it’s more than enough
Then I don’t need anti aliasing at 1080p and stuff in the distance is much clearer
@smoky flame Yeah for 2014 it seemed nice in theory, however now we actually have 4k in 2019 it probably is way different...
devout remnant
^
Plus, I like to sit back away from the screen and tbh, 2K plus higher frames is the better option for now.
full flint
Does render scale work with all games or only certain ones?
smoky flame
I'm the opposite. Where required I will upscale from 720p and apply sharpening just to get FPS to a figure I believe my 1080 Ti should get (only in games that drop below 60 fps at 1080p) Sure, I said I could see myself dropping the whole maxed settings thing but I don't see any reason to. I have the compute power to play at said settings so I decided why change now?
full flint
Does putting the 3D settings slider to peformance instead of quality also do anything?
smoky flame
we talking in the nvidia control panel?
smoky flame
Don't think it will do much tbh. Better to tweak games manually - Make sure you don't apply stuff globally as that can sometime do all sorts of weird things
full flint
Ah if I do end up doing that when there is a driver update I will clean install drivers
smoky flame
only setting that is applied globally (if enabled) is GPU scaling, part of the image sharpening option and allows for the user to select a lower resolution in game and have the GPU upscale and apply some sharpening to reach the monitor's native resolution. Some programs you will want to then go into their profiles and disable it
full flint
I need to check if I got that on or off
smoky flame
it is disabled by default
I'd like to add to the "Better to tweak games manually" that I wrote above. Other option is to leave things as is, on default. "Let the 3D application decide"
full flint
Yeah I think I got that, other settings I will have to check. DSR is turned off too
smoky flame
I have 5 settings changed on my nvidia control panel. Image Sharpening is enabled globally (disabled where not required) then per game I have power management mode set to "Prefer maximum performance". Texture Filtering - Negative LOD bias set to "Clamp". Texture Filtering - Trilinear optimisation set to "Off" (only affects DirectX programs) and Vertical Sync set to "On" (disabled in game)
full flint
I thik I got vertical sync disabled, not sure about others. But I know power management is on max performance since I have a desktop
royal peak
How does one go about OC a CPU
smoky flame
overclocking a CPU can be done either through the bios (best on Intel CPUs) or through AMD Ryzen Master
severe sun
hello
its saying rocket league is free with game pass
i go to rocket league and its saying 9 dolalrs
why?
dusty vector
Does it also say "Install"?
For games in game pass you can install right away for free or you have the option to buy it forever for a discount
visual hazel
am I crazy, or is Minecraft NOT included with Gamepass for PC?
ruby spear
It's not
visual hazel
weird
and before you say it.... YES IT IS WEIRD! 😛
it's technically first party Microsoft. Should be included in their sub service that includes all first party games.
ruby spear
The first-party thing was for first-party titles released after the launch of Game Pass. Minecraft was released prior to Game Pass.
visual hazel
well that's a shame
ruby spear
Same reason earlier Forza titles aren't on Xbox Game Pass, for example.
visual hazel
minecraft also makes WAAAAY too much money to be included for free
not surprised really.
ruby spear
Not necessarily. The Xbox version is included.
Offering the game 'free' on Game Pass opens up for potentially more DLC sales.
smoky flame
Thought I was being smart with using upscaling on RDR2 and that doesn't even seem to help performance much. Bit more playable but barely something to shout about. FPS ranging anywhere from low 40's to around mid-60 at maxed settings minus advanced settings. They are locked. 720p upscaled to 1080p + sharpening
vestal stream
i think a Gt 1030 or a GTX 750 TI is good enough
just use a Ryzen GPU not INTEL GPU
full flint
you won't get far with either
full flint
and you're not getting high FPS with either of those two
vestal stream
u want us to buy a RTX XD
vestal stream
well a i9 core 9th gen then or the latest Ryzen GPU
full flint
there's also the fact that Kepler GPUs were.....very inefficiently heated
yeah, games that are older are more CPU-based
but any newer game it's going to really rely on the GPU
the highest a 750 has on the memory end was 4gb of GDDR5
sure it looks fine memory wise, but the architecture, core count, and clock speeds matter
vestal stream
well a Razzer laptop then XD
full flint
just shooting out names doesn't really help
especially since Razer's laptops are rather pricey vs longevity
vestal stream
asus gaming laptop
full flint
the same will apply to any laptop
vestal stream
oh
full flint
unless you're going for a sager laptop, which, mind you will be very expensive
they won't last more than a few years tops
but that's because Sager's laptops are customizable
vestal stream
well pc and laptop only have a 5 years life compare to consoles it can go long if u take care of it
full flint
pc's have a much longer lifespan than that
laptops can live that long, but they won't game that long
good example of the customizability
don't forget that most laptops use Mobile GPU chips
vestal stream
actually aRCADE MACHINE CAN LIVE LONGER TBH
full flint
which aren't nearly as powerful as their desktop counterparts
Sager uses desktop chipsets for GPU
vestal stream
i know a arcade machine that live for 30 years
full flint
and a lot of arcade machines don't
they require maintenance just like any other
"gaming" laptops offer portability, not longevity
vestal stream
my ps2 is dirrty its still lived
full flint
if the portability is what you require then you must leverage that and sacrifice the longevity and performance a desktop offers
vestal stream
XD]
full flint
this isn't a comparison
full flint
then you don't have a need for a strong GPU, but as soon as there's a game you want to play, then you're kinda out of luck
full flint
I thought ryzen 2200g was better or similar to 750ti/1030?
smoky flame
Seems I missed a lot here earlier. ggaming360, my gaming rig is fine, some would say overkill for a lot of games. I just set RDR2 to maxed settings and it absolutely wrecks performance. You would be lucky to achieve even 10 fps off a Ryzen APU, 750 Ti or 1030 with RDR2 at maxed settings and that is not a joke. Rockstar have some work to do to better "optimise" RDR2 for PC
full flint
It's far from overkill
GPU are typically only rated as overkill on games that release prior to the GPU's launch
and "ok" on future titles
which is why the 2080 was seen as such a disappointment
smoky flame
6700K, 16gb ram and 1080 Ti. Ok, maybe overkill isn't quite the word for it but still. RDR2 and Watch Dogs 2 are the only two games so far that I own that test my system to its limits
full flint
and that number is going to increase exponentially each year
smoky flame
yup, I hope to upgrade next year to avoid that increase as I know games are getting more demanding
full flint
then I'd suggest going for either a flagship or Ampere-based titan
smoky flame
Hope to move to a 6 or 8 core CPU as I feel games are slowly but surely making use out of more cores and GPU I plan to wait for Nvidia to launch their 3000 series and hope that the 3080 Ti (whenever that launches) doesn't cost more than the 2080 Ti
full flint
there's some games that need at minimum 8-core
If you upgrade CPU you will also likely need to upgrade motherboard too
of course
smoky flame
Well aware of that 🙂
full flint
32gb is moving into average standard
smoky flame
As long as I see performance improvements across the board I'm happy. One thing, I won't be going with Intel for my CPU upgrade
smoky flame
if anything I may just wait and see what AMD do for Ryzen 4000
full flint
and provided they don't take 2 years for threadripper 4
oh intel 10 series
yeah. LTT's review said enough
even in my mind justified the $2k for the TR3 prices
smoky flame
Intel are in a real mess. I feel for Intel in a way but seeing AMD rise is the best thing that happened to Intel in some time. They now have competition and it seems as soon as competition hits them they struggle, get found out and other stuff happens. Keep going AMD 🙂
barren knot
Which game needs 8 cores?
full flint
Star Citizen 😂
They should put some of that game on the cloud rather than the PC itself... (Or is it on the cloud)
a good number of more recent/modern games can benefit from more cores
apart from game files, it's server based
but yeah, most games from 2017 and newer can utilize more than 6 cores
And it still needs 8 cores?
it depends on the type of game
for single-use systems, not so much
what do devs make their games on if they are becoming this demanding?
BF1, R6S, even Horizon games benefit from more cores
they don't specifically require them though...usually
unreal engine's become extremely CPU heavy on the multi-core aspect though
barren knot
I have a 7700k and it's not bottlenecking anywhere. Should be fine till ryzen 4000 releases
My gpu is on 99% tho 😂
full flint
I find it interesting how siege benefits from more cores when can easily run that game above 100fps with something like rx 580
full flint
Since when did the 1650 super beat the 1060 6GB? looks like I will need to upgrade my gpu come ampere...
it's a pretty significant performance boost due to clock speeds and memory type
Only 5fps though... Probably next gpu I get will be 8GB vram maybe more if I can afford it (the rtx 2060 super equivalent of ampere)
smoky flame
New Nvidia driver update available. 441.41
full flint
frick
frigid pasture
bye
finite crypt
is anyone dojng a giveaway???
ruby spear
You can if you like
Just let me know if you would like to generously offer something for other people to win.
finite crypt
nah im just trying to get somegift cards
ruby spear
Not gonna happen in here
But I heard you can win them for a reasonable price at most stores.
full flint
Is steam controller being discontinued?
ruby spear
Yes
full flint
Ok I have the steam link (hardware) hope it does not become like that
ruby spear
They're both discontinued, Steam Link and Steam Controller.
full flint
I mean I hope they don’t abandon the controller completely. Unless they are focusing on the Valve Index more... Steam Link became software, but you can’t really replace a comtroller with software...
full flint
Good thing there’s a billion other controllers out there
The best ones are probably xbox one, dualshock 4, xbox 360, switch pro, maybe one of those razer ones... I am surpised the ps3 controller still does not work on Steam (windows) yet it works perfectly fine on the Steam Link device...
Any other controller is not worth it imo (Maybe logitech f310 but thats it)
devout remnant
@full flint Xbox Elite Series 2 best controller.
full flint
But for steam can you use paddles too?
devout remnant
@full flint can’t see why, the paddles just map to regular buttons so the input to the game is the same.
full flint
RDR2 steam release date is december 5th 2019
full flint
So if I play full screen Xbox game bar clips either don’t clip, or they are frozen
Only works if I play window full screen but then it has input delay
full flint
@full flint sounds like you're maxing out your CPU usage
plucky marsh
When you say Steam Link, do you mean the box or the app on phones?
Being discontinued I mean
full flint
the box
plucky marsh
Thanks. 🙂
full flint
@full flint how so
And how would I know
task manager or some other system-resource monitor
verbal hinge
unborn haven
any one wanna play cs go
full flint
smoky flame
can't believe I'm saying this but I don't think I need to keep Steam installed on my PC. Have no games installed from Steam as is
full flint
No steam games at all? 
full flint
It’s actually somewhat similar. Other than the mandatory games I keep installed at all times
I think Quantum Break is the only outlier there
smoky flame
I do have steam games just none installed. Either completed, lost interest or not interested in the games I have (on Steam)
full flint
If GOG Galaxy 2.0 launches you can use that instead for the other launchers...
plucky marsh
Out of interest, what Launcher do you use the most?
I have a few Steam games installed but been mostly using battle.net recently.
plucky marsh
Subzero
I only really use Steam these days for Rocket League
But it holds most of my games
full flint
ah
smoky flame
Epic, Rockstar and Uplay are the other game launchers I use. Of those three Epic and Uplay I use a lot. Rockstar been a more recent thing since I bought RDR2
Forgot to add Origin from EA. I use that on and off. Have Fallen Order and NFS Heat installed
full flint
You have origin premiere or the uplay+? I assume uplay is for stuff like AC, Siege and watch dogs...
Steam
Steam has Uno
Case closed
plucky marsh
That's a good case made.
full flint
There is Uno game?
plucky marsh
Anyone know why it says 3 in wishlist but only shows 2? https://gyazo.com/d55ac8227b1b7aef6cef286427241830
smoky flame
I have Origin Premiere, yeah. No uplay+ though. Already own a good portion of uplay games so wouldn't see it worthwhile besides it upgrading just about every non-deluxe edition that I own to that edition or greater. Great price though imo if you don't have many (or even any) Ubisoft games on Uplay
full flint
I have no ubisoft games... The games that do not launch from steam I may on xbox, although I do not think I have played manet ubisoft titles anyway
frigid pasture
Can I connect a gaming PC to my tv? because I'm saving money for one and I'll probably only have enough for the PC itself and a cheap keyboard and mouse
ruby spear
Yes, if your graphics card has an HDMI port.
full flint
Or you have a conversion cable
frigid pasture
would gameplay look worse to how it would be normally
upper geyser
Depends on your specs
full flint
Depends on the Tv as well
Generally it’d be negligible
If you’re playing at 4k you might have to reduce some game settings depending on GPU/CPU
ruby spear
Also game mode on the TV to improve the refresh rate
full flint
I think there are newer tvs with hdmi 2.1 and vrr but they are quite expensive.
There were a ton of sales for monitors this week though, I regularly saw some go for under £100 (1080p)
wide hound
Rather get a 4k 120hz monitor. TVS are not for gaming lol.
full flint
is samsung 1TB ssd 860 evo good deal for £94.99
smoky flame
4K 120Hz would be ridiculously difficult to run even for a system packing a 9900K, 32GB ram and a 2080 Ti. Best look at 1440p 144Hz or 1080p 144Hz. Monitors at those resolutions aren't quite as expensive and depending on hardware can actually play games above a slideshow 30 fps. 4K is just bonkers on PC
full flint
4K 120hz monitors are also expensive... Even then I don’t think 4K 144hz monitors have hdmi 2.1 support...
But as for PC to drive 4K 60 in AAA games is demanding like subzero said
smoky flame
sometimes if people don't care about the settings they use 4K 60 could easily be achieved but games will look horrible
a compromise that I personally would never do. I'm at the other end of things where I try to max out in game settings (even though I said I'd stop) and still keep fps above 60. Most games it works but there are a couple I have come across where I can't have both maxed out graphics AND 60+ fps
full flint
It also depends on the monitor as well... A game on ultra settings will not good as good on say a TN compared to IPS or something else
smoky flame
a game at ultra settings will look good regardless of display. TN, IPS, VA etc are all panel types varying in colour accuracy, contrast ratio and so on. If anything depending on monitor bought what you are viewing (after calibration) may just stand out more on one monitor panel type than the others
smoky flame
Even though its not accurate if the monitor I have has some calibration settings online I go and use them. Luckily I have that option and I'd say the settings they show are pretty good for my monitor
only thing is I'm not sure what calibration settings to trust over the other. My monitor has a few sites with settings I could use
full flint
I think there is ipc profile or something
barren knot
I have to agree on the panel type. A cheaper TN panel has quite washed out colours compared to an IPS or VA panel. TV are a viable option for pcs since they have affordable hdr options, which make a noticeable difference. Monitor hdr is mostly subpar
full flint
I have a asus mg248 that may also be why
full flint
TNs will always look washed because they’re faster panels that focus on just that- being fast. They naturally have lower contrast ratios and don’t usually support color bit past 8
There’s a reason almost every 240hz monitor out there is TN
sick elm
anyone know why when i try to play a game on pc , just an image pops up of the game and not the game itself?
for the xbox anywhere stuff
manic seal
who play roblox
ruby spear
@warped wing Stop posting this in multiple channels
delicate cloud
Anyone have halo wars 2
frigid pasture
no
smoky flame
Just tried Watch Dogs 2 at maxed settings again and the knowledge I now have I was able to make the game more playable without having to lower the resolution to activate Nvidia's upscaling or enabling Watch Dogs 2's Temporal Filtering option that makes the game look really bad (but improves performance)
full flint
xbox game bar is trash
i cant clip in full screen
...? anyone know a better cliping system
you can provide constructive criticism instead of stating things that provide no insight
me...?
you're the only one who's said anything relating to criticism
"trash" is soooo descriptive. it really gets the point of the issues you have with it across
and to answer you, no. it's considered the best lightweight clipper. there's RAPTR and Shadowplay, but both of those are system-heavy
how is it the best if it doesnt wor
so if you're having issues with gamebar, you're going to have issues with those for sure
its known that it doesnt work in fullscreen
works in fullscreen for me, even on non-game applications
have you tried repairing it?
that usually fixes sluggishness/bugginess
repairing?
Yes. Via the settings panel
reset and repair
topaz patio
i usually get my games from the microsoft store, and while it doesn't have the biggest selection of windows 10 games, it still provides some good AAA games, and steam games run horribly on my pc for some reason.
smoky flame
that's a bit strange. You got Game Mode enabled by any chance?
lilac steeple
Im having some issues with Xbox Game Pass on PC and i was wondering if someone could help
I cant install Xbox Game Pass on PC i keep getting error code 0x080070015 and it tells me something went wrong.
lusty oak
you have to have the PC Game Pass, not the Xbox version
lilac steeple
I do...
viral crest
Is your PC up to date? 1903 I think it was.
lilac steeple
Yup i just updated it about 20 minutes ago
full flint
@full flint forgot to show you my new computers
Well new computer + case switch for original
topaz patio
what happens is, whenever i try to run fullscreen games on steam, my pc ends up glitching out and the screens turns black with some static, i end up turning my computer off and then shutting it down, resulting in a restart, this meaning i just can't play some games
full flint
I can’t find any internal pics wtf
Where did they go
Well I’m at work so I can’t take pics but here’s the specs
gaming:
i7 8700k
Z370
2080ti
32gb 3200mhz
500gb SSD
3TB HDD
850w
streaming:
2700x
X470
1660 super
32gb 3600mhz
250gb SSD
3TB HDD
850w
topaz patio
2080 ti??
full flint
Found the gaming pc pic, can’t find the streaming pc
ooooh. noice
Funny part, the back panel is completely unmanaged
It has these big panels with handles that you can just push into place, so rather than manage everything in the back, we just shoved the panel closed lol
eternal birch
a lot of people do that. me included 😁
devout remnant
That does look very clean inside!
wild tapir
k
Cuz I bought a ryzen 5 CPU so i got a promotional code
And i dont use xbox thought i could sale it to someone here my baddd
wet heath
@heavy marsh don’t think selling a promotional code is legal
no idea what’s he ruled over there
heavy marsh
in this server, its no buying or selling period.
maiden yoke
Guys i have a question, when i play on forza and i want to download a tune it says that i have parental control on but i never installed it
How can i change it?
full flint
Is your microsoft account linked to a family account?
full flint
Reach PC is fun, cannot wait to try the others
autumn sluice
So I'm guessing the issue with mcc is with the family group stuff on pc?
Cause I cant play it even though the main family account has it
full flint
You need an xbox live account to play, I tried the one I have linked to my xbox (through steam version) and it worked, and yes my account is linked to a family account, though I am under an adult and not child account
autumn sluice
Well my mom has the gamepass ultimate on her account and I did everything u needed to, to set it up on my PC right but I still can't play mcc
And I have my own xbl account
Just have ultimate on mom's account to make tracking spending easier
full flint
Probably why I don't think ultimate carries to the family account...
Only other option is to buy the game on steam and yes you can save purchases as PDF
autumn sluice
Yea no I'm not paying for another copy at full price when I already paid full price on console
full flint
£29.99 or however much it costs is not full price compared a brand new release
But from what I understand I do not believe you can share Xbox Game Pass Ultimate PC with the family
full flint
ok you got it working?
autumn sluice
Yea needed to have mom signed into the store and me signed into the Xbox app
full flint
ok, now to download the game and play
gray rock
You guys think is a good build for $350 cad?
specs:
gtx 1650
16gb ram
i7 processer
2tb hdd
is it worth it?
autumn sluice
@gray rock hard to say without knowing the CPU full name and where you're getting it
Also iirc the 1650 is a laptop card
full flint
1650 you can find in desktops too I think
@autumn sluice
autumn sluice
Ah right it's one of those cards with different versions
Eeeeh 1650 is a decent midrange card. Not the best price to performance
full flint
I would be skeptical of the hdd though you have no idea what is on there...
1659 super does beat the 1060 6GB from what I have seen
And I highly recommend a solid state drive
Motherboard is not mentioned also
full flint
ouch
https://youtu.be/nPgVf06DU4w
this is how it runs with a gtx 1070, 1650 will be less performance
a 10 year old CPU won't do much regardless of it being an i7 or not
a lot of newer i3's outperform first and second gen i7's
Could you build a ryzen system for $350 CAD?
Don’t know canadian prices but from what I heard tech is expensive there
full flint
Ah okay
gray rock
Yeah i decided to get a i5 4460
void quest
How can i figure out how to know what you guys are talking about lol.
worldly orchid
I'm having an issue with gamepass, is this the place to ask?
ruby spear
worldly orchid
thanks
atomic roost
Xbox is superior compared to playstation
void quest
soulja boy console is obviously the best no 🧢
lilac vector
wassup gamers
lusty oak
sup
lilac vector
just relaxing you
lusty oak
dinner
lilac vector
nice
full flint
Looking for New Gamer Frennss ✨✨
void helm
halo mcc is laggy on my pc ):
ruby spear
You're not a verified member of the server. See the last entry in #rules (and preferably the rest, too)
void helm
make sense.
smoky hedge
Omg I’m sorry everyone who was pinged I just copied and pasted from his discord server sorry
void helm
what?
lavish pilot
hey7
void helm
scp secret lab on steam finally got the mega patch V2. looks pretty epic..
full flint
What games benefit most from an SSD?
smoky flame
open world games that load in a lot of textures
Games will benefit from an SSD in general though. Whether it be load times or texture loading. Makes things just that bit smoother and less clunky
full flint
I mean which games will benenfit more? Currently I have witcher 1 on a hard drive, but games like witcher 3, gta v, skyrim etc I am putting on a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO...
full flint
They all benefit
Lol same answer while evo is it
Cause some are so r not I had some
Like u on e fame on other u don5
Which*
🤣🤣🤣
smoky flame
I want to go all SSD some time soon but I don't think 2TB will be enough especially once games break into 200GB seeing as that is 10% of the storage gone in one game install. Not factoring in windows installation, game launchers and other programs and the fact that 2TB isn't actually 2.00TB. My 2TB HDD shows 1.81TB
full flint
I don’t have any games like that, thing my largest is 1TB
gray rock
Would a gtx 1050 ti work with a 240w psu?
full flint
If you can get one without external power and power directly from the motherboard it should be fine also
full flint
Depends what the rest of your system calls for
The 1050ti is a 75w card so you’ll theoretically be fine, but I don’t know what the rest of your system is
autumn sluice
@gray rock for gaming ppl usually use 500w psu
full flint
I have a 550W gold, I think people use more...
full flint
It all depends on what they build
You’ll never see an 850w in a budget build. But there’s an 850w in every high end pc I’ve ever seen
full flint
i use 850w
full flint
800-900 is average
the true high end builds will use a 950-1050W
1000W build? what hardware? I seen many modern builds with 80+ Gold 850W PSUs... (i9 9900k 2080ti)
If you mean watercooling also and enthuasist cpus like threadripper also then i can understand needing a 1000W power supply
full flint
I said true high end builds
enthusiasts rate in that category
-looks at unused 1600W PSU- 👀
full flint
Believe it or not, i9 and 2080ti are only high end when it comes to gaming, not general computing
That’s what dark is talking about
smoky flame
I would have loved to have got an i9 9900K + 2080 Ti setup going. Might yet, never know but the cost of it, I feel really isn't worth it and Intel are in a serious mess right now. I can't see myself picking Intel going forward, a company that because of a shortage on 14nm is going backwards to 22nm (on the lower end). Since when was it acceptable to go backwards with technology?
foggy vigil
(Cross posting here because PC games 🙂 )
Hi friends, if you are seeing this message, send me an invite on Halo MCC on PC if you'd like an invite back. Playing some random multiplayer casual games. 🙂
full flint
@smoky flame wait foe ampere hopefully it will be more cost effective
But intel going back to 22nm on low end is shocking, I mean even low end ryzen is on 14nm I think
So we talking Xeon and quadros then?
smoky flame
New chipset, same old Skylake 14nm https://www.techpowerup.com/261987/intel-core-i9-10900k-10-core-processor-and-z490-chipset-arrive-april-2020
more on Intel going back to 22nm https://www.techpowerup.com/261972/continuing-14-nm-supply-shortages-lead-intel-to-reintroduce-haswell-based-22-nm-pentium-g3420
full flint
10 series is skylake-x
plucky marsh
Boneworks is released today for those interested
full flint
is the 10 series like 7 series? Or is there any mainstream processors
smoky flame
nvidia driver 441.66 available now
full flint
thanks, will update
full flint
So why does steam big picture not support 4K?
yet steam link samsung smart tv app does?
full flint
full flint
I played Halo Reach on my 4K tv via hdmi for the first time and I have to say it was a pretty good experience even though steam big picture only supports 1080p...
Probably will stick to my monitor though
warped wing
👍
devout remnant
1200W PSU 👀
full flint
There's 2000w PSU's
devout remnant
2000W 👀
full flint
1200W I think is the asus rog thor and many others
I know 1600W exists
full flint
@full flint @smoky flame https://youtu.be/031vJL-p4x8
curious
give me the tldr
haven't finished
some is speculative though
I'm saving it for after TGA
full flint
jesus christ
full flint
...
south grotto
no
full flint
I'll be buying the gpu used from ebay
got a price range?
@full flint switch the SSD to the MX500
^
that's your go-to recommendation now too Kronix?
Price budget about 600
for GPU? or total
Total
Lol
go for a 1650Ti or RX580
that or the 5500XT, but I don't know its price point yet
No I have a Samsung 860 EVO 1TB in my PC as well as a 250GB Samsung 860 EVO... But the mx500 is under $100 rn
price is around $200 I think
well, EVO are the fastest
but Crucial's the most reliable
Yes that's what I'm getting rx 580 from ebay
Bit expensive
I'd avoid ebay for components
some rx 580s were used for mining not sure which tbh
Why is that?
very unreliable
True
a lot of chipswaps
and Frankenstein components
Focus G only has support for 2 HDDs and 1 SSD I believe
Dam
Only 1 ssd?
if not ebay then where
You can mount the SSD in place of the HDD though
but you need the screws and other things
oh ok
MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard or ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard @full flint
The MAX motherboard has the BIOS for the amd 3000 series out of the box
the issue is though within the next year $800- builds are going to be near obsolete
because prices refuse to drop on hardware that can handle it
It highly depends on how powerful the PS5 and Xbox Series X will be
processors just refuse to go down in price
not even that
like sure, they're going to standardize 4k@60, but the issue is still there
whicih one would be the best for my budget
You can get a ryzen 3 1200 for dirt cheap now, I think I saw it drop to under £100 at one point... Yes it is not ideal but was more expensive at launch
it says $61
ion know tho
£46 here
what about r3 2200g
£76 here but I would not get that
screw this im boutta cop the latest intel pentium
the 2600 is probably best value imo
$120 for what you get
yea
you'll get nowhere with a pentium
I'm going to say that now
unless you don't plan to do much gaming, and wait a while for things to load
ik it was a joke
people still use them.
did they get rebranded to pentium gold and pentium silver? or is that only for laptops
Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive or Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
mx 500
someone else says its a bad ssd
the mx500?
yea
they're saying the samsung ssd is better
@full flint
qvo is not the evo is
@full flint samsung is faster
the qvo uses qlc nand flash the evo and mx500 tlc is used
crucial is more reliable
even for an qvo?
hmmmmmmm
is that saying Intel 660p vs mx500 too?
micron are the best chipmakers
@full flint when it comes to memory...make sure you do NOT get hynix memory
make sure it is micron as well
or at the very least that
hynix memory has an extremely high fail rate
what is hynix memory for example
there's 3 major production of memory
Micron, Samsung, and Hynix
Most Corsair uses Samsung or micron
Can i dm you for the stuff
full flint
why does clipping not work in fullscreen? lots of others have this problem too:?
full flint
try resetting your gamebar application, this can be done from the windows settings' menu
full flint
YEAH NVM IT STIll doesnt work
autumn sluice
Don't you love the people that say 1000$ pc is a budget build
full flint
I mean
it's not budget
but it's modern low-end
modern low end?
what is sub $1000 then?
#Lowspecgaming
low end doesn't mean everything runs on low
it means low-high (sprinkled with some ultra)
budget means low-mid
autumn sluice
Ok but why does everyone need to run games at 60fps high graphics
Like I'm fine with medium 60fps
full flint
I thought you meant low end as in budget, low-end, mid-range, high-end, enthuasist...
or however it goes
@autumn sluice because medium is the one area where graphics take a massive leap with each hardware generation
high/ultra take a lot longer to have a major performance requirement
a good investment is a balance between cost, time of usage, and longevity
mid-high is the average of what people play on
spending say, an extra $100 or $200 for a card that will last 4 years longer than the 2 years a lower-end card would is a lot more fiscally wise, but it's based around the player's budget ofc
"budget builds" are considered an entry-level point for pc gamers. so they can get their foot into the door
autumn sluice
Dark if I wanted to do gaming even low to medium graphics can I build a desktop to do that? I know I would probably need to upgrade in a couple years but I wanna be able to play now
full flint
loads of internet cafes still use the gtx 1060
I'd still say spend the extra couple of hundred for a better GPU
because the generational leap is coming up
depends on resolution imo
or wait until after consoles launch
buy storage now gpu later
so a "couple of years" might end up being less than a couple
after all
remember Maxwell and pascal
9 series to 10 series was an extreme difference
autumn sluice
Uh
autumn sluice
So yur speaking foreign to me now
full flint
GTX 900 series
autumn sluice
I'm not a pc gamer mainly I play xbox
full flint
vs the GTX 1000 series
the difference is drastic
tech deals made a video about the 2080ti saying that if you want to play 4K good fps you need to upgrade every year for next 3 years (AAA games)
i play mostly AAA games xbox
yeah. no lol
autumn sluice
Ok so what's a smart idea for right now. And how much am I looking at for spending
full flint
smartest is to save up
autumn sluice
Well I'm getting like 3k in tax money in a couple months
full flint
cause it's worth noting that a majority of console games play at high for most settings
autumn sluice
I wanna get a pc but I don't wanna spend all of it just on a pc
full flint
I think it was this one
https://youtu.be/tofST6SqBLQ
that's only based on 2080Ti
which was a garbage product
extremely rushed
autumn sluice
Also what's your opinion on used pc?
autumn sluice
Ok
full flint
even a used optiplex + gpu will be obsolete with new consoles next year
think anything not 8th gen intel or newer will be obsolete depending on game...
or is it slightly earlier not sure
autumn sluice
So if I wanted to build a PC in a couple months how much am I looking at spending to build something a little decent
autumn sluice
Eeeh
full flint
decent after that, quite a bit
that or you hold off and buy when the new generation GPUs hit
autumn sluice
Ok decent for 2018/2019
full flint
700$-$800
autumn sluice
Ok
full flint
provided we're talking 1080p
you want pc to last a few years wait until after xbox series x, ps5, navi 2, and rtx 300 series launches
autumn sluice
900/1080
autumn sluice
I have zero interest in 4k right now
full flint
1080p is going to start the push to become obsolete in about 3 years
volta was supposed to be turing from what i have heard a while back
autumn sluice
Yea by then I can upgrade
full flint
"by then" that's not a lot of time
we dont even have 1080p 60
and you'd basically need a brand new computer
on consoles anyway
not exactly
we have 1080-60 on consoles
what are you on about 🤔
autumn sluice
Ok one s and below
full flint
even there there's a good bit that do
newest ones, obviously not
for major blockbuster games
not on games like witcher 3
or is witcher 3 1080p 60
autumn sluice
Maybe on one x
autumn sluice
So yea 700-800...
Rip no money for boxing day
Hey dark if I do end up deciding to spend enough on a desktop, could you help me at the time to build one?
full flint
I'd say hold off and save just a bit longer
buy an ampere-gpu
at the very least that
@autumn sluice honestly a 4k tv and xbox series x may be a better buy atm
got a 4k this year will get ps5 next year
then series x year after
then new gpu after that
or new pc
autumn sluice
Cdn
full flint
even a lot of 4k monitors are cheap
yeah there is a samung qled one
its really nice
full flint
I'd advise against that honestly
i have seen loads of 1080p monitors around $100 usd mark
1080p-TVs don't do well with PC at all
not for games
it wasn't until 4k-TVs that game modes were implemented
so there'll be a 10-15(up to 20)ms delay
I tried playing halo reach on my pc at 4k lets just say there was some screen tearing
on a tv
autumn sluice
Well I can do a desktop not a full moniter setup
full flint
if you want 10980p
you dont need 3 monitors
you can get a nice 1080p monitor for like 60$ USD
full flint
yes
autumn sluice
Ugh
full flint
PC Builds never account for peripherals, and cabling
whatever you do dont pay full price windows
so those "$500" builds are in actuality around $600
due to just cables
use linux maybe
and assume you have a monitor and MKB
steam play + proton
not supported everywhere
windows 7 will be unsupported on jan 2020
will be a glorious month
(I hate Win7 with a passion)
but for games which need it windows 10 is the way to go
get pro not home though
autumn sluice
I have a keyboard mouse and my tv
full flint
at the very least I'd still avoid using the TV as a main-input
another alternative is xcloud/geforce now/shadow
autumn sluice
My laptop just died and to replace the charger and charging port is like 140 alone so upgrade time
full flint
when it launches
I actually may end up getting xcloud if it works well and you can stream on tv
I mean
it's included in game-pass
the real question is, will MS take on not only PSNow, but GeForce NOW
and have PC gamepass games in game streaming in the future as well
that'd be nice
how will that work
I mean imagine something like yakuza on xcloud
since iirc they plan to allow "console" streaming from your PC as well
yakuza's a console game
autumn sluice
I think pc gamepass will get xcloud
full flint
yakuza is coming to pc gamepass and xbox one next year
only 3 games though
they're going to test the waters
if they do well, then it's possible that the others will as well
which is why it was smart for them to do it with gamepass as well
i think xcloud is included in gamepass or what i heard from the xo19 stream
yes. that's what I said earlier (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
oh yeah
full flint
it only doesnt work for fortnite
full flint
And Detroit Become Human PC port is another victim of Denuvo
Sigh why corps still using that incompetent yet system killer DRM
smoky flame
That Denuvo DRM sure is annoying, yeah but not much we can do about it. Something tells me the people over at Denuvo have no clue what their DRM is doing and/or don't care that it appears to have an affect on system performance
ruby spear
There's no way they could not know at this point.
smoky flame
That or they ignore the gamers which is most likely what is happening. I haven't seen or heard much on Denuvo on their corporate end. Plenty of dislike etc from the gamer end though
Looking on Denuvo's site they seem to defend that their DRM/anti-tamper/anti-cheat solution has no negative impact on performance. I don't know what to believe. If it doesn't what is the cause of some of the widespread performance issues in games that all happen to have Denuvo?
full flint
Well, there's few YouTube videos that shows Denuvo vs No Denuvo and that proofs Denuvo is main issue
Missed the days when all you had to do was either enter your cd key or insert your legitimate game cd/dvd
smoky flame
tbh I think how it should work is it should be a one time check (first ever start up of the game) where Denuvo checks the legitimacy of the game if all is well then that is it. Never to be seen again. It would uninstall itself upon closing the game and future starts from there should be faster etc
maybe they keep their anticheat solution installed though as no one like a game loaded with nasty cheaters 😦
full flint
From what I understand, removing Denuvo (some devs removes Denuvo after release)
-Decerases the size of executable file dramatically
-Game boots way faster
-CPU and HDD usage decreased
-Destroys stuttering entirely and improves FPS
Steam is enough DRM, no more is needed imo. If someone just don't want to pay, they won't pay anyways. No need to torture legitimate users.
smoky flame
Downloading The Outer Worlds through the Microsoft Store again. Not sure how I'll play through the game this time but I want to try something with a second play through
full flint
@full flint Agreed. GOG you can play games without the launcher...
autumn sluice
@smoky flame murder everyone who says a rather uncommon word
Like u want random play through ideas just ping me
worldly ravine
How good is the HP Spectre?
smoky flame
All depends on the system specs. HP Spectre being a pre built branded PC it may not be up to much
full flint
Finally halo on pc now I can murder my teammates with boxes
full flint
Sam pls ban them
glad basalt
heavy marsh
some people think so. some people do not. like everything.
full flint
@worldly ravine as a laptop or as a gaming device
worldly ravine
@full flint Both
full flint
not worth it
full flint
For general laptop even a dell inspiron should be fine
Or used thinkpad
an older thinkpad yeah
newer ones are kinda crap
full flint
In terms of value for money or in general
as machines
thinkpad's community kinda just....stopped caring about the new ones the worse and worse they got/get
ah the community
not the manufacturer?
full flint
ah
autumn sluice
Yea lenovo is kinda a meh brand for quality and durability
full flint
I think IBM is solid rock, and well I've used a Fujistu Siemens laptop for 10 years
I literally tortured it, still works tho
plucky marsh
Anyone know of any good VR party games?
I have Keep talking and nobody explodes & Acron: Attack of the Squirrels!
I think asymmetrical games is the term I'm looking for.
worldly ravine
Micro center is giving away free SSDs until December 29th
full flint
whats the catch
autumn sluice
@worldly ravine catch?
worldly ravine
I got it in an email
full flint
probably that you have to show up to the actual location
and spend money
typically that's how free items work from retailers lol. the question is, how much qualifies
full flint
do you know if its possible to locate games from Steam Library to play in Xbox game pass for PC?
eg. kingdom come deliverance is on XGP, and I already own it but on Steam. Is is possible to locate the game? So I dont download it again, since it is already installed
no.
storefronts aren't cross compatible
rip, that would have been cool, dont want to waste space on a game I already installed
ty anyways 🙂
I just uninstall the steam variant personally, if I'm going for achievements
what about the save files, can I transfer those to the xbox version?
only if it's an xbox-based game (e.g. Microsoft First-Party)
as of this time, Gears 5, and MCC are the only 2 that utilize that
oooh
np.
narrow ruin
if my xbox game pass ends doi lose all my games tat I got from the gp?
full flint
Yes. You don’t own gamepass games
You simply have licensed access to them while the subscription is active
royal peak
Whats on epic games store for free today?
full flint
no disteny and a bunch of other
oblique ingot
@royal peak #gaming-deals might show you some
ruby spear
full flint
All hail Lord Gaben
low pawn
ha
heavy marsh
so clean 
devout remnant
I still can’t post pics 😥
undone cypress
Youre not verified yet. Give it time and you'll be verified
full flint
https://store.steampowered.com
not sure why is says autumn sale
cursive salmon
oh crap sorry
my friends server is next to this one and i thought i was in his server. my bad im sorry
autumn sluice
Btw if I looked online for boxing day how much am I looking at for an avg gaming pc
full flint
We talking building your average gaming PC or buying an average prebuilt gaming pc
autumn sluice
Either @full flint
full flint
What’s the purpose of the PC
autumn sluice
Apex legends medium 60fps 1080
autumn sluice
Oof
full flint
Apex is resource hungry
autumn sluice
Eeeeh
full flint
That’s considered cheap in the land of PC
autumn sluice
On boxing day?
full flint
Pc parts don’t really fluctuate with holidays
You might score a CPU for cheaper or a hard drive but you’re looking at like $700 instead of $800 for a full rig worth of savings
You just missed cyber Monday which is considered the best holiday for pc parts
Usually it’s the externals that’s go on sale. Monitors, mice, keyboards, etc.
full flint
well, most things can play CSGO and Minecraft Bedrock...minecraft java is where you need the best computer in existence because java
but if those are the only games you're interested in, then that budget build would be fine for low/medium settings
full flint
Any decent modern PC should be able to run all those games but the settings is different...
full flint
A rx 570 will run all games today...
At what settings is the problem
Also how much ram you havw as well as CPU is also a factor
For example I recommend 16GB over 8GB...
We will see what games like cyberpunk2077 will require in terms of specs...
autumn sluice
So for my pc desktop build I'm gonna be using my laptop's HD. Now my question is do I have to go and buy a new w10 install because I bought the laptop used and it was upgraded to w10 from w8
full flint
no, not really.
I have no idea how windows 10 licensing works but i think if it is oem you may need to reactivate windows
but i would use an ssd for the OS if you have one
If running games at 480p low isn't a problem then sure
Like no AA, no AF
@full flint you talking about the $400 PC or a laptop?
because last time I checked you can rx 570 in a $400 budget
I meant even integrated graphics can run modern games to a point
the 2200g and so on is probably far superior to anything else on the market in terms of integrated graphics
assuming you have 16GB ram
I think 570 will keep up at 1080P for few years (with lower settings each year)
what about the rx 580?
Same but better settings and framerate
frigid pasture
Everyone
Battlefront 2 (2005)
is now 3 euro on steam
go pick it up the sale ends on Jan 2nd
full flint
that game still has online support?
frigid pasture
I believe steam servers are available
I have a disc of it, I'll be getting it on steam very soon
full flint
ah ok
it is quite an old game not sure how well it works on modern hardware
frigid pasture
asus or Lg monitors
glad hedge
Any Family friendly games for PC with a Pixar quality graphics that meets the graphical fidelity of Kingdom Hearts 3?
Or any PC games with Pixar quality graphics that are GPU demanding?
ruby spear
Not exactly GPU demanding, but you don't get much more family friendly and Pixar like than https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/rush-a-disneypixar-adventure/9p3pl76n0kwz?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
glad hedge
Is Rush Disney Pixar Adventure’s graphics anywhere near Kingdom Hearts 3?
ruby spear
It's an older game, so not quite.
Does it really matter?
Family friendly games are about the fun, not the graphics.
glad hedge
I care about graphics quality nowadays for games I like to play on PC. I want to mix fun with graphics in Family friendly games on PC. Like I mean, Sonic Unleashed was family friendly but it was graphically ambitious for the Xbox 360 and PS3, but that game is not on PC and there is probably a 0% of a PC port happening. And Kingdom Hearts 3’s graphics quality are very close to a Pixar movie and that’s family friendly but it’s only on PS4 and Xbox One, and not available on PC. I want to have at least one PC game that mixes family friendly fun with ambitious graphics
full flint
I'm looking for a Winter Royale Partner for today must be 14 or under, working mic and PC. DM me
oce
ruby spear
Keep it in #587074461770186765 please, Kerimtee
glad hedge
What are the Xbox One equivalent graphical setting for Halo Reach MCC on PC?
full flint
There aren’t many settings on that game from what I understand
full flint
@glad hedge original
autumn sluice
Indeed pc mcc needs a lot more graphical settings imo
full flint
What would they even add
autumn sluice
Shadows, ambient occlusion, AA, Texture filtering, reflections, etc.
Quite a few pc's could play mcc if they could turn off shadows and occlusion
Also anyone have a vid explaining pc water cooling? I'm buying a pc with it and my mother is losing her mind over it
full flint
@autumn sluice things that don’t natively exist in halo
Antialiasing and texture filtering
Reflections and occlusion are hardcoded into the engine
Shadows are a maybe
But they’d just be mostly “on” and “off”
Due to how the engine processes them
Idk. We’ll see.
They’re adding more options. But considering my intel integrated TABLET can run it at 60fps in “Enhanced”
Dynamic resolution may be a possibility. But who knows. They’re still working with an 11 year old version of a 20 year old engine.
On assets originally designed for systems with 256mb of memory for the gpu and another 256 for the main system in a shared pool
autumn sluice
Dark I didn't know that. TBH I was going off the settings I remember for og pc halo
full flint
Which only had antialiasing and texture filtering lmao
Shadows and reflections weren’t even an option
plucky marsh
Would be nice for those options in the new Halo. Wonder if it will now it's going to be on PC from day 1.
fervent whale
Using a bluetooth xbox one controller (sport white special edition) on PC over bluetooth (no adapter). It works fine on the xbox one, but when using it on pc, it causes fps lag quite often (like, from 90+ to 10-) and has absurd drift. Like, I could look left and it will continue looking left for a few seconds than randomly look right. I've tried reinstalling drivers and re-pairing the device. Does anyone have any ideas or a place to redirect me to?
full flint
new meaning Infinite @plucky marsh?
because those will definitely exist on infinite lol
plucky marsh
Yeah, hope so
autumn sluice
@full flint I specifically remember shadows being an option
Also
I got a budget of 1000$ can for a new gaming desktop. Now I have an issue
Do I buy the r9 390 8gb, i7 2700 quad core 3.5ghz, 8gb ram and Mobo for 200$ and buy a pay and case and use the rest to buy the new Xbox or do I just build a good gaming PC and forget the xsx?
full flint
Option 2
Also quad core and 8gb of ram are just about the 2 most systematically bottlenecking things you could do in 2019
autumn sluice
I mean yeah but they meet my needs for the games I play
full flint
You could get away with it if it’s 4 cores 8 threads, but I’m pretty sure that’s 4/4
autumn sluice
I need a case, psu, hd and w10
full flint
This is a budget build made for someone
autumn sluice
Huh
full flint
But it’s still the exact same parts I’d recommend
Ubuntu can work also
@autumn sluice
Assuming you only want to play games on steam via steam play/proton
autumn sluice
Xlr u still here?
I'm wondering if u could budget build me a pc? I don't need one that can run rdr2
Like the most is be playng is Apex legends right now
full flint
why can I not join a party on xbox game bar? is it really this garabage?
autumn sluice
Maybe stop insulting it. Then update it
autumn sluice
Ok so I have a 1000$ price range. I have the option to buy a r9 390 8gb, i7 2700k, 8gb ram, Mobo, water cooler for 200$. I'd like to keep some money for the Xbox series X.
full flint
Series X price has not been confirmed yet
Its also debatable about the peformance of r9 390 vs say a rx 480 or something like that...
full flint
@full flint make sure your system and game bar is up to date. If you have an invite it will show in notifications. And if you have any form of communications ban you can not join on any device.
I’ll build one later :p
Then consult with dark and a few others
worldly ravine
Remember that time Microsoft made the original Surface 1.0 which was a monitor built into a table
full flint
Why else would it be called Surface if it’s not a surface
What kind of monitor are you playing with? Should I aim for 4k60 or 1080p60 or what else
Also is the $1000 solely for just the PC tower or am I actually dealing with like $800 then leftover for peripherals
full flint
Tv
😬
I tried to tell’em
I can feel the delay from here
How are they killing me first
Why can’t I aim
Where’s my dog having war flashbacks picture
Also you didn’t answer my question lol
Are we dealing with 4k gaming here
Too late I answered for you
There you go
heavy marsh
i like it
autumn sluice
full flint
Welp
You definitely went cheaper
Is there a reason you went micro ATX with everything? Like do you have an issue space wise?
Also that ram is overkill if you don’t know how to overclock ram and test system stability (which I have no idea if you do or don’t know)
Just take a look at my list, and anything that stands out or you have questions about, let me know.
autumn sluice
I have friends making these for me. I have 3 discords building me a pc and best one wins