pc-gaming

[dusky wave]

Probably 60fps in most games not sure how widescreen monitors will tax the gpu tbh.

[pulsar mulch]

i am so confused

[smoky flame]

somewhat technical stuff. Sorry 😅

[pulsar mulch]

im not a techy personnn

stahpp

[dusky wave]

Subzero dont widescreen resolution tax the gpu more than standard 16:9 ratio

[pulsar mulch]

wth is gpu tax

[dusky wave]

I dont own a widescreen monitor

[smoky flame]

I would disagree. 16GB is getting closer to a minimum for gaming while 32GB is recommended

[smoky flame]

yeah, the higher resolution on the ultrawide side will mean performance takes a further hit as higher resolution = more pixels to render etc. Should be somewhere between 1080p and 1440p in terms of performance I would think

[pulsar mulch]

w u h

[dusky wave]

Basically ur pc can get 60fps in most games at 1080p widescreen

[pulsar mulch]

is that good

[smoky flame]

game support for ultrawide can also be somewhat iffy so if you notice black borders around whatever screen it is you use to play games on then it may be that game doesn't support ultrawide aspect ratios such as 21:9 or 32:9

[dusky wave]

Most games that arent on the modern side rarely have widescreen support

[pulsar mulch]

what's an aspect ratio?

[smoky flame]

not to sound rude or that but we aren't Google. Some of this can be searched up online

[pulsar mulch]

sorry

[dusky wave]

Xbox console dont even support wide screen either

[pulsar mulch]

i found nothing but more questions

but ty anyway

[dusky wave]

Also if u trying to get into pc gaming do more research on ur pc and pc gaming in general.

[pulsar mulch]

oki

ty

[smoky flame]

there is a lot to take in and understand but having that understanding of your hardware is a good thing

[dusky wave]

It could probably run cyberpunk natively at a decent enough framerate without ray tracing natively

[dusky wave]

I didnt get into pc gaming til 2022. I did my research and built my first pc in late 2022/2023

[smoky flame]

same but in 2016. Learned a lot in a short time and since then I love digging into far more technical hardware stuff 😄

[dusky wave]

Some stuff on yt will help u understand it better

Personally linus does the most hilarious content

[smoky flame]

yeah, there are plenty of resources out there in which to learn more about PC hardware and what it can and cannot do but I do feel kind of bad now for the way in which I said what I did but people really do need to research stuff for themselves rather than have every question they want answered handed to them on a plate, you know?

[dusky wave]

Totally agree its not like a few decades ago where internet was not a thing back then lol. I cant imagine getting into pc gaming back then lol

512 mb gpu lol

[smoky flame]

oh hell no! I'm not sure I would have got into PC gaming so much back then. Don't think there has been a better time to get into PC gaming than the past decade. There has been challenges and obstacles along the way though

[devout remnant]

Biggest obstacle is my insatiable need for more power 😬

[dusky wave]

Ide cables ....serial cables.....

[smoky flame]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[icy orbit]

though its worth noting linus is an entertainment channel and isnt exactly a good source for accurate information

his ltt psu testing stuff is alright but its not him doing it

[normal plover]

It is done. I put the plates back on

[dusky wave]

What u gonna play first cyberpunk?

[fading robin]

this is the most sketchy ram install ever.

mean ssd install

like there isnt even a proper mount within the laptop to install this stick

but we did it

[oblique ibex]

hay agen how does cloud gaming work?

[dusky wave]

stream game from a data center of series x consoles to ur device. can have upto 1080p60

[oblique ibex]

im using it

aslo how do i use my tool bar

[oblique ibex]

why cant i use my tool bar

[dusky wave]

wdym by tool bar?

game bar?

[oblique ibex]

im in flight sim 2024 im suposed to pen tool bar

[dusky wave]

im still have no clue what u r talking about

is that something in that game specifically?

[oblique ibex]

idk im new to xbox

il share my screen but its late so no mike

nvm i dont have perm

[dusky wave]

please explain tool bar

[oblique ibex]

i have to go to the camra seting in toolbar

[dusky wave]

so its something about streaming ur game right?

[oblique ibex]

no its a in game task for the tatorel

sorry for mager miss spel

[fading robin]

yk whats so underappreciated the hcpatcha accessibility thing

its very useful for people like me who struggle with things like that

[oblique ibex]

?

[fading robin]

esp when it starts getting more complex now and starts asking for solving entire puzzles

[fading robin]

basically it where u set a cookie in ur browser and u dont have to do any captchas for most websites after that, u have to verify ur email, and phone number etc to do it

so its not something that can be easily abused lol

[oblique ibex]

ok cool

[fading robin]

yeah its great

and sometimes it prompts every few days to set a new cookie

love hcaptcha

[lyric void]

Is anyone gonna play grounded 2!? Tm?

[normal plover]

Spider-Man 2

Now it’s time for the real challenge: turning the pc into a console

No pin, steam big picture mode, controller on to wake

[warm warren]

Welp

[glad lark]

looking for chill dude to game feel free to text me

[obsidian bobcat]

If you're looking for someone to play with, please go to #1094715375884697600

[zenith terrace]

dm if you want pc game pass

[mellow lintel]

..or you can jus drop the code in #xbox-game-pass

we get a ton of those pc gamepass trial codes already

[full flint]

I will

[full flint]

But I don’t have it downloaded

[lyric void]

Hiii okay!

[lyric void]

Oh it’s ok!

[full flint]

Didn’t Grounded 2 come out today??

[full flint]

Ok

[lyric void]

Yeaa

[full flint]

Oh nice

[full flint]

That is a sick PC

[smoky flame]

think I found my next SSD upgrade (not that I need one)

[icy orbit]

which ssd

[smoky flame]

WD SN8100. Gen 5

don't know whether to go for 2TB or 4TB. Latter would be doubling my existing capacity but comes at a great cost while 2TB is what I have now much cheaper and faster than an SN850X. Was waiting for gen 5 M.2 NVMe SSDs to reach closer to their peak speed for that spec before looking at them and this is pretty close iirc

[patent hound]

I like having 4TB

[smoky flame]

yeah, 4TB would be my ideal choice but between the 2TB and 4TB models I'm not seeing a great deal of difference other than the obvious cost, capacity and endurance (TBW) so my mind somewhat swaying towards the 2TB option even though I feel I really should look at 4TB this time

[raven hull]

This is an English only server. And this looks like a self promo, which is also not allowed.

[red dune]

Hi

what’s up 🆙

[devout remnant]

Usually the advertised max speed is from the biggest capacity

[leaden needle]

J6FY3-4M2YD-X4TFK-3QYCG-F266Z

J6G23-GVDKD-G3XQJ-RKDY6-VR2QZ

game pass pc

[smoky flame]

both 2TB and 4TB show the same stuff though. 1TB seems to be the slower of the three available capacities. Pretty sure that trend is common with these SSDs, might even have been the case with the SN850X too

[pulsar cargo]

I got a 4TB QVO SATA SSD before the prices went sky high. Got it for like £100 like new with 0 hours on it. Now it's £200+ 😭 glad I did get it though. I can fit so many games 🎮

Thinking of selling my old PC and using the NVMe and RAM for my intel system. Idk yet though

The sound of using 64GB RAM is good lol

I have no use for 64GB but moar is better, right?

I don't remember buying 6 be quiet fans but I have 4 in my QL300 and 2 in my montech case. I swear I only remember buying 4 years back. They're so expensive now.

[devout remnant]

Just double check and make sure it doesn’t say “Up to”

But anyway, if you get 2TB you can always check

I went with Samsung myself

[smoky flame]

full specs of the SN8100

[pulsar cargo]

Now that's a nice SSD 😁😃

[devout remnant]

Yeah - “Up to”

Just as I thought 😅

[smoky flame]

yeah, aren't all SSDs like that though with actual performance varying on the load thrown at it?

[pulsar cargo]

Yep

How much is the 4TB?

[devout remnant]

No I’m talking benchmarks - the smaller capacity ones don’t hit that full speed

[smoky flame]

found the 4TB model for nearly £400 which would be the most I'd want to spend on any 4TB SSD (going by the £100 per TB limit I set myself) Only gen 5 afaik exceeds this as both gen 3 and gen 4 SSDs can come in well under £100 per TB

[devout remnant]

£99 per TB or nothing

Idk how much mine even was

[smoky flame]

only two things I'd be concerned about is whether or not the SN8100 would require active cooling and related to that the temperatures that SSD will reach under certain loads

[smoky flame]

https://www.techpowerup.com/339435/amd-now-worlds-fastest-in-nearly-all-processor-form-factors

[willow bloom]

who wanna a dance party

[cinder dagger]

i might geek out

xbox app is so buns

[cinder veldt]

can it run crysis? (720p?)

[devout remnant]

https://blurbusters.com/massive-upgrade-with-120-vs-480-hz-oled-much-more-visible-than-60-vs-120-hz-even-for-office/

[smoky flame]

Found out DOOM: The Dark Ages does have a benchmark feature. Well hidden at the bottom of the extras menu. Going to run a few benchmarks at 1440p maxed settings with no upscaling or frame generation active to see what sort of FPS I get

slightly annoyed that I can't alt tab between windows with this game or that would have been posted quicker

[pulsar cargo]

I'm not the only one wondering where the drivers are! https://youtu.be/ZNnzZ7NUCvQ?si=xNvbwUWhHFY_-G1H

[smoky flame]

Could be the team are on a break

[icy orbit]

doesnt say what hardware it uses though so almost irrelevant really imo

bunch of gen 4 drives that list theoretical maximum just because their hardware is technically gen 4 compliant but they dont even saturate gen 3 speeds

n48r drives do this a lot

[icy orbit]

checked TH review. 4TB uses SM2508 & BiCS8 so pretty good.

dunno about the others but assume the same

[distant granite]

PK3RW-GT9GD-FCM9Q-C9XJY-Y72KZ

[turbid tangle]

guys im looking for a controller to buy for pc games , preferably a xbox type as playstation ones do work on all games, any recommendations i play a mix of games but mostly fps , also no price limit ?

[dusky wave]

Ps controllers dont have haptics or dualsense in all games and only wired. They arent supported in a huge amoubt of games. The controller all depends on ur needs like if u need back pedals etc...

[turbid tangle]

alr also i play alot of elden ring and dark souls and theres no option for playstation sighns so ig an xbox would be better in general , also i prefer one with 4 paddles

[dusky wave]

It would be werid using a ps controller with screen having xbox button prompts. I know elite 2 stealth ultra has back paddles. I dont own controllers with back paddles sorry

Best to do ur research before buying q controller that fits ur needs

[turbid tangle]

alr ty

yo i found something that looks great its the SCUF Envision With Anti-Drift controller , it has buttons for pc at the bottom 4 back paddles and has hall effect meaning it wont get drift also has custmosible triggers so it can be mouse click for fps games and normal triggers for like racing games , this is exacly something i was looking for so it looks very good to me

anyone have opinons on this controller ?

[dusky wave]

For anti drift recommend hall effect controllers

[turbid tangle]

yep this has hall effect

[devout remnant]

I’ll give it a go on Saturday when I next have time

[errant sorrel]

New PC on the way! 😄 9800x3d and a 5090, figured I might as well go all out

New OLED monitor too (ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27UCDM)

[devout remnant]

QD-OLED 4K ?

[devout remnant]

You’ll have to join in on the benchmarks now 😄

[errant sorrel]

Yes!

[devout remnant]

Nice 👍

ASUS make the best monitors in the world 🤍

[errant sorrel]

Been eyeing it for a while but no way my 3080ti was gonna be enough for the FPS I want at 4K

Yeah currently have the 27inch 240hz IPS one and very happy with it, but its ''only'' 1440p

[devout remnant]

I’m 1440p forever

Waiting for new 540Hz in next few months

[errant sorrel]

Ill see how the new PC runs my games at 4K but should honestly be fine

Not selling my 1440p anyway

[devout remnant]

It’ll be gangster don’t worry

[dusky wave]

Whens the beta?

Also specs dont look bad tbh. Though i worry of the at launch thing for storage

[cinder veldt]

it will be put on the hard drive

like every other game

[dusky wave]

Imagine if bf comes to the size of cod 300 gigs lol

[cinder veldt]

you know whats funny

battlefield had the same system the cod hub had

where battlefield 3 and up excluding 2042 had its own hub

but it didnt need 300 gigs

either way if a battlefield game ever got to 300 gigs id never touch it

[errant sorrel]

I dont understand this constant outrage about game sizes tbh

Just.. uninstall a game or 2 if you really cant fit it? Doesnt seem like a huge deal to me

[cinder veldt]

uninstall 2 games i like for a game i may or may not like

[wicked tiger]

Game devs just need to use winrar and compress their files smh my head

[cinder veldt]

stckr compression hard
game dev hard

[errant sorrel]

Better yet, ZIP the ZIP file

ZIP files all the way down

[wicked tiger]

Zip all your JPGs, save those bits

[pulsar cargo]

BF6 looks boring icl

[buoyant grail]

COD with destructive buildings, looked wack

[buoyant grail]

some of us respect our space. and not support lazy devs

[wicked tiger]

Large game sizes != lazy devs

[dusky wave]

what some players dont realize is that with how devs make a massive scope of the game like big textures, ray tracing etc it needs larger game sizes

especially with ue5 or other engines

[wicked tiger]

Yep, and you can only compress things so much. For downloads, sure. For installation? Not so much, as it will ultimately start affecting performance if you need to keep decmpressing on the fly to read data

[dusky wave]

like needing a ssd not a hdd nowadays

[exotic jacinth]

I remember on Cold War you couldn’t even have that and warzone installed at the same time on series s. Not quite as bad now at least lol

[smoky flame]

there was hype about a new file compression for games that could help to bring down file sizes etc but either that feature has magically disappeared or we are yet to see it in use idk what of the two it is but showing off new tech only to either not fully implement it or forget about it entirely is frustrating

[exotic jacinth]

I know some first party games on PS5 made use of it like Spider-Man remastered was a smaller size than on PS4

[cinder veldt]

it looks just like battlefield 4

we might be back

[devout remnant]

You didn’t show the video settings ?

That’s always part of the benchmark 😄

[smoky flame]

ultra nightmare no ray tracing

[devout remnant]

Going to do one in the morning

2morrow

[smoky flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-xess2-now-supported-by-amd-and-nvidia-gpus

[smoky flame]

anyone going to be playing Hell is Us? Watched a trailer of it and even though it seems to be a horror game I'm tempted to get it

[dusky wave]

nah. only horror i play is alan wake, resident evil and dead space

[cinder veldt]

its more of a soulslike

but probably not because it looks nice but im sure if it wasnt on ue5 then it wouldnt need a 4090 to run at 4k

[blissful carbon]

I found coil whine that sounds cool. XFX Speedster Merc 319 + Stable Diffusion load

[candid glacier]

anyone able to help me? on my xbox 1 microsoft account i had my forza 4 account with all my cars and all that but i dont play on it anymore. i bought it on steam, logged in with the same email connected to the microsoft account that was used on xbox 1 forza 4 and my data didnt load over. naturally i looked it up and found i needed to download it on the xbox app. i logged into that and when i go to forza 4 it says i need to a choose a bundle but all of the bundles are unavailable. I bought premium forza 4/5 yearsss ago and now i cant play forza 4?

[dusky wave]

i think cdkeys still sell keys for xbox/pc for horizon 4 ultimate edition

[cinder veldt]

cdkeys my beloved

[desert spindle]

Not sure if this is the right channel but does anyone have a good 1.21.8 fabric horror mod? A friend and I can’t find any that would work

[dusky wave]

Thats broad. Would be better if u could state the game lol

[desert spindle]

For minecraft sorry lol

[dusky wave]

Sorry dont play minecraft at all. Wouldn't know the first thing about modding minecraft

[desert spindle]

Ah it’s fine

[slender copper]

U should go see in the discord of Minecraft, this is Xbox non Minecraft

I have attached the Minecraft sign to my name, if u want click it and go see it

@desert spindle

[lilac yacht]

hi

[pulsar cargo]

Hello

[desert spindle]

Figured i could ask here bc of PC gamepass, srry

[slender copper]

Don’t worry u can ask here, I’m not a moderator I only say that if u wanna more responses u could go to the Minecraft ds

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

[devout remnant]

https://videocardz.com/newz/battlefield-6-to-feature-nvidia-dlss-intel-xess-and-amd-fsr-upscaling-and-frame-generation-at-launch

1,000 fps lets go with DLSS 😄

[blissful carbon]

I like using AMD Fluid Motion Frames to bypass hard frame caps

[smoky flame]

AFMF 2.1 seems to work pretty well

only awkward thing is that just like any driver level feature I don't think it understands to exclude UI elements and it lacks some information in game frame generation options support

[bronze zephyr]

Heyyy, I joined here because I don't know where else to go. I'm having a problem on the PC Xbox Gamebar & PC Xbox App where I cannot do anything with XBL Parties. Each time I go to join my friend's party, it lets me join, however it says they are "disconnected" and sometimes after about 10ish seconds, it disconnects me completely from the party and says something along the lines of "We can't connect you to the party. Try again later". Any tips on how to fix this?

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

[rotund urchin]

Hii

[ripe fern]

gang does anyone want to play roblox with me user DryFlower_pot

[obsidian bobcat]

If you're looking for someone to play with, please go to #1094715375884697600

[blissful carbon]

I was playing Earth Defense Force 6 with it to make the game feel smoother. Works well there.

[latent gate]

not the game I'd be using framegen with

average ttk's about 0.2s

adding any latency to that means you're very much likely to be the one to die in any gunfight encounter

[devout remnant]

This is what I’m excited to actually test, I’ve yet to use it on MP so will see how I play.

[smoky flame]

as long as Gears Reloaded supports Nvidia Reflex the latency hit from frame generation should be reduced but compared to the latency without using frame generation but using Nvidia Reflex it will be worse, perhaps not by much but if you value latency frame generation is not a setting you want to have enabled, especially on more competitive games

I'd go as far as to ask devs why they add frame generation if its supported in games like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Fortnite etc why they add it as it goes against the very thing these games demand. Low latency, high FPS gameplay

[icy orbit]

because some people dont care lol

not everyones playing fortnite on all low settings 5000fps to win world cup

some people just enjoy the silly characters and playing with friends

it has a whole bunch of different collaborations and theres so many different game modes

the techs available and its entirely optional, theres no reason not to implement it. some people want it

[smoky flame]

true and it should always remain optional. Frame Generation and upscaling

personally I don't touch frame generation as I'm not a fan of fake frames but I don't mind using upscaling if it has to be used. I'll only use the upscaling preset necessary that will help achieve at least 60 FPS in games after I crank the settings up to max (minus ray tracing) and where FPS is already great than 60 FPS after doing that I'll even enable FSR Native AA (or equivalent settings like DLAA) instead as I've found FSR Native AA can often be better than TAA though it does come with a bit of a hit to performance

[astral timber]

why does my xbox controller stop working and rumble but still has power

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

[devout remnant]

I don’t think it will since it’s a very old UE3 game but I would run it at 144fps native anyway since you cannot lock the FPS beyond this.

[devout remnant]

Yeah I don’t mind a small latency increase if it means a massive boost in frames.

[devout remnant]

Playing games Native for almost 3 decades at the very highest quality and I kid you not I cannot tell the difference when I have FG on.

You would have to be really, really looking for it and absolutely locked in to “see” what is native and what isn’t.

I absolutely believe in blind tests the average person / majority of people wouldn’t even know FG is on.

[devout remnant]

Yeah absolutely nailed it here.

[languid kernel]

I want to disable to share button on my controller, i have tired the accessories app and the button does not show up. i have tried key remapping and that does not work, i have looked for a way to disable the xbox game bar and i cannot find one please help me

[dusky wave]

so u looking for a way to disable what the share button on ur controller or disable game bar on pc?

[languid kernel]

disable to share button mainly i think i have it though. i went into my registry and disabled it

[dusky wave]

no idea i just never use it the button on my controller

i always keep gamebar off

[pulsar cargo]

How have you done that?

I can't lie, I've never got the "share" button on a Series controller to work on PC

[patent hound]

https://x.com/pirat_nation/status/1952112241651954079?s=46&t=fVg0D7_3h7QPFp3JZBdkiA

Pirat_Nation 🔴 (@Pirat_Nation)

NVIDIA plans a large-scale price decrease for RTX 50 video cards in late August, according to insiders.

Reason: Oversupply and declining sales have led to accumulating warehouse stock.

X · Aug 3, 2025, 9:00 PM

[cinder veldt]

nvidia finds out apple marketing doesnt work

[languid kernel]

i just looked up how to do it, there is a specific path u gotta follow

[wicked tiger]

Code dump for the GOG platform

Saints Row IV: Re-Elected
https://www.gog.com/redeem/HUWX1CF7317DE5D5F3

Saints Row 2
https://www.gog.com/redeem/CJ5PC8E9ABE1DA8A6D

Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
https://www.gog.com/redeem/KKP76CCECDF668111D

Stray Gods: Orpheus
https://www.gog.com/redeem/3SYXBEB93C3B45660C

Toem
https://www.gog.com/redeem/H26ZF42D8D6A547DF0

Venba
https://www.gog.com/redeem/B6H66A41AE91098C62

Heroes of Loot
https://www.gog.com/redeem/SPFEED362029B306A4

[lethal yew]

hello so i have a doubt regarding gaming laptops

so i am looking at two options of asus rog strix, one is a 5060 laptop but with 115 tgp and other other is a 4060 laptop with 140 tgp

which is the better option, does more tgp always mean better or not really

[dusky wave]

I never heard anyone decide the laptops based on tgp tbh. U need the entire specs of the laptops. For all i know the 5060 or 4060 laptop has better cpu ram etc...

[lethal yew]

oh i see, my buddy was insisting on looking at tgp over everything else but i checked the benchamarks and 5060 laptop performs better than 4060 laptop as expected despite being 115 w tgp and the 4060 being 140 w tgp

[dusky wave]

I rarely look at that. I look at the specs. And whats the laptop will be used for tbh

[lethal yew]

also i would like to play the latest AAA titles at 1080p, would you suggest that i go for the 12 gb vram options or 8gb vram will suffice

[dusky wave]

12. A lot of the newer titles need more than 8. Hell the 5060 ti 16 gig verson out sold the 8 gig variant same could be said for amd as well

[lethal yew]

right fair enough, a shame that the 12 gb laptops are quite a bit more expensive but maybe worth it if you wanna play the newest stuff

i'm guessing ue5 games are the biggest cuplrits of consuming insane vram

[dusky wave]

Just dont use ray tracing. Its a perf killer. The scope of games getting bigger and more. A lot bigger textures and stuff and that all add up

[lethal yew]

ye i don't really care much about ray tracing

also is core ultra 9 good for laptops? i know the desktop ones have a bed reputation

[dusky wave]

Me neither it hasnt come to the point that rt is worth the perf hit

I dont know. Im amd cpus all the way now.

[lethal yew]

is amd superior for laptops too or is it not so straightforward

i'm mostly confused about the cpu side of things, it's not so clear cut for laptops as it is for desktops where amd cpus are no brainer

[dusky wave]

Not sure. I know that amd is making the chips for next gen consoles for xbox and ps

[lethal yew]

right

i guess only option is finding benchmarks on youtube and seeing for myself

[dusky wave]

It depends what u gonna use ur laptop for. Pure gaming or professional work

As well as ur budget

[lethal yew]

well

ye gaming is the main priority

and i plan to use it for work too

[dusky wave]

Work as in video editing or 3d modeling?

[lethal yew]

no, mostly coding and maybe ai training stuff perhaps

but ye i am mostly thinking about gaming perf

[dusky wave]

Go that way. U may want to invest more ram in the future if ur work stuff needs more

[lethal yew]

do all gaming laptops have option to add more ram

i'm specifically looking at asus rog range

but i'm open to other like dell hp too

dell alienware too even although those are super pricey

[dusky wave]

Not really sure. Last laptop i have is a lenovo which worked pretty well though didnt game on it. U can ask the other peeps who r on this channel like subzero

[lethal yew]

hmm fair enough

[dusky wave]

I havent used a laptop in over 8 years or so sorry

[lethal yew]

so for gaming what should i prioritize most in a laptop, gpu vram and cpu? ram probably not so much as most of them allow for additional ram

[dusky wave]

Depends on what cpu they have. Usually laptops have decently matched cpu to gpu for little bottleneck issues

But if u want new triple a titles get 10 plus vram

[lethal yew]

right so i shouldn't be panicking about bottlenecks much ig

[lethal yew]

yep 4080 laptop and 5070ti laptops are slowly being on the top of my list now

[dusky wave]

Not really. Its not like they will match up a 10 year old cpu with a 5090 lol

[lethal yew]

ofc lol

but doesn't the ryzen 7 9800x3d bottleneck the 5090

[dusky wave]

Hell no. That cpu is the best on the market

All pcs and laptops has bottlenecks

[lethal yew]

ye ig the idea is to reduce said bottlenecking

[lethal yew]

I thought ryzen 9 9950x3d is the best gaming cpu

atleast it should be on paper no?

[dusky wave]

They all r great

I rarely hear people talking about the 9950x3d

[lethal yew]

ye because it's super new

[dusky wave]

More on the 9800x3d

[lethal yew]

i think barely released 2 months ago

and also expensive af

[dusky wave]

Ofc it is lol

[lethal yew]

and despite being a ryzen 9 is just marginally better than ryzen 7 9800x3d

[dusky wave]

I doubt it gonna be that much a difference tbh

[lethal yew]

hmm

so ye it's more like a bragging rights cpu without much substance

it probably does do other tasks better than 9800x3d tho i bet

since 16 cores

[dusky wave]

Yeah but gamers just it to game lol

[lethal yew]

true true

for my friend it's probably the best option, he's a gamer + 3d animator

[dusky wave]

Im a pure gamer so i wouldnt know the first about that. Do they use bender?

[lethal yew]

nope

i mean i did use it to obtain a stock 3d model for a teapot

but that's it really

[dusky wave]

Well gn. I have get some sleep 4 work tmr

[devout remnant]

It is Number 1

https://wccftech.com/battlefield-6-runs-at-300-fps-with-ryzen-9800x3drtx-5080-combo-but-reportedly-suffers-nearly-33-loss-with-intel-core-i9-14900k/?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwL7Y9ZjbGNrAvtjzmV4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEeCshKh80CGVPOtqrdnhBzj76M35966o1xd8aIcOYVU01YsoDiKjPoZYzmTl8_aem_AFpZWtYvlERFuDK2v9FLug

-33% Performance Loss with a 14900K

[lethal yew]

yep gn

[lethal yew]

wow intel bottlenecks this hard?

why is 14th gen so bad i'm genuinely surprised

it's not even close

[smoky flame]

What’s worse is that is 14th gen. Intel’s newer CPUs (Core Ultra 200 series) are sure to perform worse than that still, lol

[devout remnant]

Yeah the Super Duper Mega Ultra 285K is usually slower in gaming than the 14900K

[smoky flame]

If you value gaming performance and want the best, right now AMD’s 9800X3D is about as good as it gets

what I find somewhat ironic is that Intel brought in the P cores and E cores as something that could have been revolutionary for desktop PCs but either it hasn't worked out to be that way or Windows scheduling or games just aren't properly equipped to understand such a layout. Ideally for gaming or any heavy task the Intel CPU would use the performance cores while putting other background tasks onto the E cores but unless Windows 11's optimizations do that correctly the default scheduling would actually be to use the faster cores (performance cores) which could overwhelm them while then barely utilizing the slower E cores

[lethal yew]

@smoky flame which is better? 1 single 32 gb ram stick or 2x 16 gb

[lethal yew]

hmm

also should i go for 4080 laptop or 5070ti one

both are 12 gb vram

and honestly they're both roughly the same price

despite 4080 being much older

[devout remnant]

Conclusion, if same/similar price then 5070 Ti

[normal plover]

Just remember that 5070ti desktop and 5070ti laptop are 2 completely different things so don’t expect 5070ti performance

[lethal yew]

oh ye i'm aware

i would love to get a desktop but it's not a viable option for me as I will be studying abroad, laptop it is

so i'm just looking for a solid 12 gb vram laptop option

so far the asus rog strix 5070ti laptops look real good

[smoky flame]

if there is a way to check for reviews comparing the 4080 mobile and 5070 Ti mobile I would do so as looking at the specs on techpowerup's GPU database the 4080 mobile may be the better option but without a side by side comparison that will be hard to tell for sure

[lethal yew]

Hmm

[lethal ether]

e

[icy orbit]

thats not what that is

[icy orbit]

the 5070 ti lol what

it draws less power

its a laptop

[lethal yew]

Wdym

I'm seeing performance benchmarks and 4080 and 5070ti laptop give pretty similar performance

Despite 5070ti having lower tgp

[icy orbit]

well yeah it should be a no brainer

5070 ti is newer and is more power efficient

also has MFG if you want to game on your laptop for whatever reason

[lethal yew]

Right

[lethal yew]

Also what brand is good for gaming mouse?

I dont necessarily need a super fancy one, just good enough to do the job

[dusky wave]

I use the g502

[lethal yew]

hmm

wired right?

[dusky wave]

Yeah

I dont really liked wireless nowadays

For at least kbm options

[lethal yew]

right

how much did it cost you?

[dusky wave]

Thirty something on amazon prime day. Logitech been making those for years.

[lethal yew]

hmm

[old kayak]

I have a Logitech G305 Lightspeed.

[lethal yew]

so logitech gaming mouses are usually the most preferred?

i thought razor was more preferred idk

[dusky wave]

Its up to personal preference. Choosing a gaming mouse is hard.

[smoky flame]

quite the rabbit hole. Only thing I can think of that would be as chaotic, if not more than peripheral buying is case buying... Way too many options

[dusky wave]

Fr. I had the same issue too last month

[dusky wave]

The most chaotic is choosing a good keboard or mouse rather than pc parts. With pc parts everyone is more consistent lol

[lethal yew]

ye fps per dollar is usually the prevailing criteria for pc parts

but you've ofc got those diehard nvidia fans who will rather buy the costlier weaker performing gpu over a comparable amd gpu that's usually cheaper

their justification being it has better ray tracing but they rarely use it in practice

also if i'm not wrong 9070xt has really solid ray tracing performance, very close to nvidia counterparts now

amd has definitely improved with their ray tracing capabilities with this gpu range

[dusky wave]

Yeah. I still wouldnt use rt in games tbh

[lethal yew]

yep

games look fine enough without it really, rt is a great feature but clearly needs lot more improvements in performance

[dusky wave]

Agreed.

[lethal yew]

and i will always choose performance over fidelity for games

even singleplayer

you won't notice as many details when focusing on playing

and better fps objectively gives a more satisfying gameplay experience

[icy orbit]

depends on your grip and handsize lol

dont pick based on popular brands

thats how you end up with a logikek g502

if you really want something generic just get a maya x or something

[lethal yew]

oh

so performance is not that big of a concern

i'm guessing high dpi mouse is preferred?

[cinder veldt]

it isnt particularly about brand but what suits you the most, and the pros and cons of chosing that option

personally the deathadder is my favorite choice because its very optimal for chucking at the wall and it still being okay

[lethal yew]

Ah ofc raging is another factor to consider

[cinder veldt]

honestly any mouse with the two buttons on the side is pretty nice

a mouse i want to get is the Razer Naga

not that i play mmos just having a keypad on my mouse would be funny

[icy orbit]

thats not what i said at all

[lethal yew]

Isnt dpi really the only performance related thing to consider?

[dusky wave]

As well as egronomics.

[lethal yew]

Huh

Oh how comfortable it is

[dusky wave]

Yes. Ike as lisquie said depends if the mouse fits ur handsize and how u hold ur mouse

[lethal yew]

Hmm

I mean you can always adapt to mouse sizes after using it for long enough no?

[mellow lintel]

Not always

Depends on the mouse 😂

Some are never going to work for some peeps

[lethal yew]

Well I guess the safest option is to go for something that generally works for most

[dusky wave]

U really need to do research on the subject

[lethal yew]

True

[mellow lintel]

Example: I have smaller hands than most mice are designed for so it can be really awkwardly shaped with the hump(?idk what to call it 😂) . To the point of discomfort.
My hand won't change size to fit

[lethal yew]

Curvature i guess

But ye i get you

[mellow lintel]

I sometimes get mice and send them back bc it's just not going to work

[lethal yew]

Thats my plan too, if the one I got doesn't work for me

So the best mouse would be the highest dpi one that fits your hand i suppose?

[mellow lintel]

In your budget , that has the features you want

[lethal yew]

Ye ofc

[mellow lintel]

I don't personally care for the extra buttons, but ik lots of peeps who do

[lethal yew]

Competitive gamers love that since you can bind jumping and sliding in them

[dusky wave]

Not everyone needs a keypad on their mouse. Thats more for mmos and stuff like that

[mellow lintel]

Sure but not everyone is a competitive gamer 😂

[lethal yew]

Of course of course

I myself have stopped multi-player since last October since i wanted to explore more of gamepass

100% worth it honestly

I was literally playing nothing but multi-player for like the whole of 2023 lol

[dusky wave]

I gave up on mp/live service games too. I may get back into it with bl4

[lethal yew]

Borderlands 4?

I'm seeing a lot of people condemning that game already 😂

[dusky wave]

Yes

[icy orbit]

no

[dusky wave]

I dont listen to reviews tbh. A lot of them r biased

[devout remnant]

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/ryzen-7-9800x3d-left-core-14900k-in-the-dust-in-battlefield-6-early-streamer-tests-both-systems-included-an-rtx-5080-but-the-3d-v-cache-system-was-roughly-30-percent-faster

[dusky wave]

Didnt u posted something like this hours ago

[devout remnant]

Similar but not the same

That was hours ago

[dusky wave]

Seems like intel needs to up their game .....a lot

[hidden hornet]

yo

guys

[cinder veldt]

this game right now atleast

looks really good

[lethal yew]

ye but i'd be holding my horses personally, bf 2042 looked promising too but look how that turned out

[cobalt dome]

who wanna play some minecraft java

nvm

[blissful carbon]

9800X3D is an incredible gaming CPU. This has been known for a while lol. That 3D cache goes hard.

[smoky flame]

Game changer when devs optimise and factor stuff like 3D V Cache in

[devout remnant]

Your kind of thing? @smoky flame

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/survival-horror/the-first-fps-from-horror-publisher-blumhouse-is-an-unexpected-blend-of-resident-evil-bloodborne-and-mermaid-folk-horror-and-it-shouldnt-work-but-it-does/

[smoky flame]

nope, not sure I'd play that

[devout remnant]

But it has VR Path Tracing Super Ultra Realistic Lighting

[smoky flame]

Looks terrifying from the trailer though 🙁

[pulsar cargo]

https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-25-8-1.html "Stutter improved while playing Call of Duty®: Warzone™ Season 03 ‘Verdansk’ map on some AMD Graphics Products NOTE: Stutter has been reduced with 25.8.1, and AMD is working with the developer toward a full solution. "

BRUH 😭

BO6 is nearly at it's end of life. 😐

[dusky wave]

tried to install bf6 beta. gave me an error of secureboot not installed screw that skip it. uninstall

[smoky flame]

Yeah, EA’s anti cheat requires secure boot to be enabled. Not the only anti cheat to require it but it may just be the most consistent one as all games that use it require it afaik

[dusky wave]

it didnt ask me that in cod or any other online game

[smoky flame]

Call of duty doesn’t require secure boot but iirc Valorant does (or did)

the list seems to be few but growing

[dusky wave]

then i play bf6 on ea play next year via xbox then not bothering with the headache of installing secureboot

[smoky flame]

Unless EA cave in to the backlash about the secure boot requirement its always going to be there

[dusky wave]

true. another reason i dont like ea outside of sw games

looks like anthem getting delisted later this month not surprising

[cinder veldt]

EA is uh

a little traumatized to what happened with apex

and what happened with using Easy Anticheat

(aka the most worthless anticheat known to man)

[pulsar cargo]

Downloaded BF6, told me I'm not using secure boot. So I turned it on; then moaned about my drivers and wouldn't launch. Massive nope and I deleted it 🤣

[dusky wave]

stopped at the secure boot error message and uninstalled

[icy orbit]

copium

enable secure boot its 2025 lol

[devout remnant]

I might be wrong but don’t you need secure boot for Win 11 ?

[smoky flame]

Optional but TPM is required

[digital dove]

i got both those on

[dusky wave]

Skipping on secure boot since i barely play mp/coop games now

[lethal yew]

is secure boot that complex to do?

[dusky wave]

something in the bios i think. my policy unless its xmp or mounting a drive i dont do anything with the bios

[tacit badge]

Anybody else having issues with pc xbox app having slow download speeds? Same with battlenet. Im only getting 10MBs, but then I check Steam and its perfectly fine

[lethal yew]

fair enough, should just be a disclaimer to advise using secure boot rather than a mandatory thing

[smoky flame]

the only time secure boot really becomes a problem for some on PC is when games with anticheat that check for it emerge. Up until then its been all quiet. Won't be too surprised to see or hear that if EA aren't going to budge from removing it on their Javelin anticheat that motherboard vendors may have to consider updating supported boards to have it enabled by default, similar to the whole TPM thing after Windows 11 released where motherboard vendors enforced TPM

[cinder veldt]

Im not sure what secure boot even does

[dusky wave]

first time i heard of it too

[cinder veldt]

says it prevents malware
it allows riot vanguard

[smoky flame]

that's one of the other heavy anti cheat solutions isn't it?

iirc there was one anti cheat that was supposedly active even when not playing the game that uses it and could ban you for installing software it doesn't like. Idk the truth in that but I'd fully expect once a game is closed for any additionaal software etc to be closed with it lol

[cinder veldt]

root level anti cheat

it bsod my windows when i tried closing it

[smoky flame]

damn, that is malware level stuff and nasty. Though most anticheat solutions should be root or kernel level so why this problem only flairs up on maybe a few solutions is weird to say the least

[cinder veldt]

we all know why ea is going as hard as they are on anticheat after their game got backdoor'd and everyone was subject to RCE and during a tournement everyones games were hacked aswell

[smoky flame]

riot vanguard, that's League of Legends and Valorant right? I'll be steering well clear of those games and any that go on to use it going forward

[cinder veldt]

https://levvvel.com/games-with-kernel-level-anti-cheat-software/

[cinder veldt]

I mean stay away from Valorent

but league is kinda worth the malware

also punkbuster still runs on my system despite not playing a single ubisoft multiplayer game in years

oh wait

its because of far cry 2

The correct version of anticheat is just not making multiplayer games for pc

also on that list

almost 140 games using EAC
an anticheat that doesnt even work

[smoky flame]

there's one other security measure I should probably make people here aware of now before they run into compatibility issues with it but iirc core isolation and its subsettings called kernel-mode hardware-enforced stack protection and it can be somewhat awkward with some anticheat and there is a good chance it will be turned off by many systems until correcting some incompatibilities. I ran into that issue with Fall Guys as I think it uses an older version of EAC and until I removed it that kernel-mode hardware enforced stack protection option wasn't having it

there are more settings within core isolation I have yet to figure out how to properly enable but it sure is quite the rabbit hole 😅

[devout remnant]

Was Secure Boot already on for you or did you have to enable it?

[smoky flame]

had to be enabled

you use an ASUS motherboard right?

I was just in my board's BIOS which is ASUS too but to enable it I think it was boot options and then look for secure boot, open that and then change the other OS option to Windows UEFI and the option below that from custom to standard and then hit F10 to apply and restart and that should be secure boot enabled (for an ASUS motherboard, other vendors will vary in how secure boot is enabled but the process should be similar)

a small but important side note I should add for anyone that enables secure boot on Windows. If you use Linux (whether that is dual boot or on another drive) you may get a secure boot violation warning when trying to boot into Linux in which you'll have to change back to "Other OS". Ran into this through some personal experience when trying out some Linux distros over the past year or so myself

[errant sorrel]

Got my PG27UCDM (4K OLED 240hz) yesterday, wow it is so crisp!

Feels like I got a new glasses prescription lol

[smoky flame]

Wow! Nice choice of monitor

[errant sorrel]

Just waiting for my monitor arm because its a little wobbly when I type

During gaming I dont notice it but on desktop/discord etc its enough to be annoying

[smoky flame]

Did you check for any firmware updates?

[errant sorrel]

Yeah gonna do that soon, currently downloading 50000 installers for when I migrate to my new PC 😄

[icy orbit]

yeah? its an anti cheat?

[cinder veldt]

If thats what you wanna call it

[icy orbit]

if not an anti cheat what is it

its totally optional and if you dont want to use it dont play those games

if you do then use it and dont complain cuz its totally fine

[cinder veldt]

I dont think anticheat should bsod my pc when i turn it off

[icy orbit]

thats an issue you need to fix

if you really think its the anti cheats fault submit a report

[cinder veldt]

thats been an issue with vanguard since its creation

[icy orbit]

yeah and user error has existed since the first fish walked

[cinder veldt]

okay Asus

[icy orbit]

classic

[dusky wave]

I just keep secure boot off. Play those games on my xbox console

[pulsar cargo]

Well, it started to happen: https://x.com/CallofDuty/status/1953139349429661786 and "TPM 2.0 (Trusted Platform Module) is an industry-standard, hardware-based security feature built onto CPUs or motherboards that verifies the PC’s boot process has not been tampered with. Secure Boot makes sure a PC can only load trusted software when Windows starts. Together, these features help #TeamRICOCHET ensure that players are starting the game from a secure, cheat-free foundation."

Black Ops 6, then into Black Ops 7...

I honestly hope it helps with the damn cheaters tbh

[devout remnant]

Ah thanks

Appreciate that 😄

[devout remnant]

Xbox can’t hit 500fps though 😭

[pulsar cargo]

Can you without fake frames?

[dusky wave]

Im only playing campaign in bo7 and bf6

[devout remnant]

Yes because if it can do 300-400 maxed out then I’ll tweak settings to hit 500

[smoky flame]

yeah, motherboard vendors are going to have to see if they can enable secure boot by default like they did eventually with TPM going forward otherwise there is going to be a lot of tech support related questions like "can't access game, how do I enable secure boot?"

[pulsar cargo]

Doubt but okay.

[devout remnant]

You can doubt but that’s really it’s already been tested.

[pulsar cargo]

You're using fake frames. Try a decent AAA game and get 400+ FPS.

On high, don't forget.

[devout remnant]

Bro I haven’t even played the game yet what do you mean “fake frames” ??

330-370 without FG

I can tweak it and achieve 500

[pulsar cargo]

Bro I'm on about your others games too. You're showing off but you're using fake frames. It's not the same.

[devout remnant]

Show me fake frames 👍

[pulsar cargo]

These benchmarks you keep posting are useless because of frame gen.

Yeah well, that's not 400+ 🤣

[devout remnant]

There’s no frame gen

[devout remnant]

You do realise the difference between a stress test benchmark and then in game right?

You do realise MP is a lot easier to run and I’ve got multiple games without FG on MP that easily run 300-700fps ?

[smoky flame]

woah, that is an impressive result though the only thing I would nitpick about it is having DLSS set to auto. That could mean any of the DLSS presets are used, including ultra performance to which at 1440p I have no idea how low that resolution internally would be. All I know is at 4K with ultra performance preset selected is 720p internally

[pulsar cargo]

... You do you. Whatever helps you sleep at night 👍

[pulsar cargo]

Yeah this guy gets it.

[smoky flame]

I just like to nitpick about stuff sometimes 😅

[pulsar cargo]

😅

[devout remnant]

Thanks man, I post two games with FG and you’re going haywire over it 😄

[pulsar cargo]

I'm not though. I'm not the one trying to show off with fake frames 😅

[smoky flame]

other times I manage to pick out things that people might have missed by accident pretty well too

[devout remnant]

Not at all, I didn’t mention “Fake Frames” nor do I see anything wrong with using Frame Gen.

[pulsar cargo]

😂

[dusky wave]

I could get around 100fps native on my 6800xt no ray tracing at 1440p at medium high

[devout remnant]

Nice, that’ll be much better in game

[smoky flame]

I'm still very much against frame gen personally but stopped myself from going on about it after some stuff lisquie said recently on here. Gamers can find out for themselves whether they like it or not but I do believe it should always be optional, same with upscaling

[devout remnant]

I usually tweak the settings anyway because you don’t need blanket Ultra or High, watched a in depth video years ago where they often compared Medium v High v Ultra and SOME settings visually wasn’t worth the performance trade off.

[pulsar cargo]

🙇‍♂️

[devout remnant]

Did this in Gears 4 and the Benchmark was able to get 470fps average which is insane because when it came out even with the best set up wasn’t getting anywhere near that.

[dusky wave]

Ray tracing should be optional not mandatory in games same about upscaling like dlss fsr xess tsr etc....

[devout remnant]

Gears 5 the same, 410fps average in the benchmark which for how visually good it is, equally very good.

[devout remnant]

I mean if it’s optional I wouldn’t use it personally

But some people live for the Rays

https://tenor.com/view/the-rise-of-skywalker-daisy-ridley-daisy-jazz-isobel-ridley-pretty-beautiful-gif-16162232

[smoky flame]

hardware just needs further improvements for ray tracing to become more viable but unfortunately, for as long as Nvidia hold their grip on the gaming market they can dictate the pace in which such advances are being made hence why it seems so slow in terms of progress made on the ray tracing side of things. We've seen more progress on upscaling and frame generation, features that are effectively a bandage to help ease the loss in performance from enabling ray tracing in games that can optionally turn it on

[dusky wave]

Who people with 5090s lol. Its not worth the high perf hit. Let alone path tracing or rt overdrive lol

[devout remnant]

Yeah I did Insane settings for Gears 5 and it held up well until I got to one area with the Sun out 😂

Those Rays cost a lot of Frames

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-dark-rey-dont-be-afraid-of-who-you-are-sith-dark-side-gif-27514769

[dusky wave]

Unless u a huge image person who cares about shadows lighting normal peeps cant tell the diff between non rt and rt

[smoky flame]

the differences are there, even though it can be pretty subtle sometimes

[dusky wave]

True

[devout remnant]

I’m more of a high quality textures kinda person

[blissful carbon]

If I have to deal with bad texture quality to run a game at an FPS that doesn't give me a headache I'm just not going to play that game ngl

Extremely rare for this to happen though. There is almost always something I can do.

[devout remnant]

Yeah because the image turns to like play dough or smooth mush 😭

[blissful carbon]

RuneScape textures moment

That game gets a pass though because its fun for other reasons

and they improved it

[blissful carbon]

Also on the GPUs I tend to buy texture resolution is basically never the bottleneck

[devout remnant]

Yeah I usually turn down Shadows one or two levels

As well as Ambient Occlusion to off

Huge perf gains

[dusky wave]

Same. Usually its medium for me

[cinder veldt]

"itll work this time!"
as they said, again.

amd drivers finally

[shrewd torrent]

Anyone knows how to fix call of duty ox7 error code

[devout remnant]

https://youtu.be/NHkBKIFZa34?si=BzIEyZ4h6hOr0PdT&utm_source=MTQxZ

Can’t wait for the 27” 540Hz Version!

[devout remnant]

Interesting downloaded Bf6 and didn’t have to change any settings it just ran right off steam !!

[errant sorrel]

So excited to try it tonight

Oh its already available in an hour!! I thought 17:00 my time lol

[dapper kayak]

Smilegate expands partnership with former GTA creative director Dan Houser for global AAA publishing
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/smilegate-publish-absurd-ventures-aaa-233000011.html

[latent gate]

Great for color accuracy. Awful for literally anything else in a lit room

[smoky flame]

yeah, my monitor is semi glssy I think and it can pick up lighting and stuff. I prefer to play in an unlit room even during the day I'll have my room's blinds drawn to keep out so much light but I don't have blackout binds, that would be ideal being on a WOLED and playing in a pitch dark room Fully glossy though, My brother's LG C1 is like that and I'd hate it I think

[pulsar cargo]

231K people waiting in line to get into the beta 😮

Yeahhhh no I ain't waiting 😄 😄

[timber owl]

Does anyone here have PC Game Pass? Is it any good? What good games are on it?

[old kayak]

It’s really good there’s a lot of games like Skyrim and fallout and stuff on it and some games that are on game pass ultimate are also on PC game pass. But if you have both an Xbox console and a PC I suggest ultimate

[dusky wave]

There are lots of good games. Just make sure ur pc has good enough specs. I personally liked expedition 33

[waxen rivet]

Who is excited for QuakeCon. Wish I could go but working today. Will still get those nice item drops on steam

[devout remnant]

Yeah I’ve been used to Glossy with the TV and I wouldn’t have any direct light hitting my monitor so it’s perfectly set up for Glossy Pop Out Colour and I’m so happy it’s finally going to be available soon - I really do not like Matte Coatings !!

[devout remnant]

This is a massive step above the previous tbh though.

[cinder spear]

Is there a way to dim the xbox button on pc yet, I can't seem to find a solution ?

[dusky wave]

It never bothered me tbh.

[devout remnant]

https://videocardz.com/newz/lg-shows-off-540hz-qhd-oled-panel-with-support-for-720hz-hd-mode

Gimmie the ASUS Model already 😭

[cinder veldt]

turn it around

[oblique ibex]

im sorry but ray thinks she is tuff but she is not that good

[normal plover]

Black masking tape

[jagged venture]

Isn't 720 hz overkill? Forgive my ignorance but I thought that anything over 60 fps is basically undetectable by the human eye and anything over 120 is basically pointless.

[normal plover]

Can definitely detect the difference between 60 and 120, but I think the upper limit of what your eye can differentiate is 500hz

Well even then between 60 and 120 the flicker rate is difficult to differentiate

[errant sorrel]

You can very clearly tell the difference between 60, 120 and even 240

I havent tried higher than 240, but I can instantly tell you if a game is running at 120 or 240, very clear difference

[blissful carbon]

diminishing returns past a certain point

[smoky flame]

I can run up to 480Hz on my monitor, albeit at 1080p and not 4K and I can still notice some improvements. Cursor movement on desktop still feels smoother than even at 240Hz but trying to reach that sort of FPS could be a challenge in some games. I already know of at least one game that appears to have a game engine limit of 400 FPS so you won't be able to do higher than that if purely going for FPS = refresh rate and that game is Diablo 4 and there is a good chance many other games will have engine limits on FPS too

[blissful carbon]

dual mode monitor? nice

[smoky flame]

yeah, LG 32GS95UE. Had it now for a little over a year and love it! One of my best tech purchases of all time. Going to take something pretty special to top it I think

that something special would be an OLED with true RGB subpixel layout, Displayport 2.1 with full 80Gbps bandwidth support and that's about it I think. Everything else including dual mode is optional extras and that's what makes it somewhat awkward as I feel very close to what I would call an endgame gaming monitor. I really don't think it gets much better than this (and the stuff that would really take it to the next level)

[blissful carbon]

sounds about right

[icy orbit]

no

gotta stop listening to the silly people who say "the human eye sees at 30fps" or "cant see above 60fps" or whatever

besides. even if 720hz is overkill its cool to get tech improvements. thats kinda how things advance

[jagged venture]

Well my opinion is we could have tech improvements in other ways instead of just focusing on line go up. See the heavy focus on graphics that has skyrocketed game prices, inflated GPU prices, and only causes issues. Meanwhile Indy titles with newgrounds graphics run like butter on integrated graphics.

[smoky flame]

tech improvements are happening everywhere

[jagged venture]

like how we're using AI to fake frames which cause blurs, or how gpus and games have only gotten more expensive yet the tech can't catch up to the increasing need for ridiculous levels of graphical fidelity?

Also i found a website that says the human eye can detect up to 500Hz in a controlled setting, but the average is 50-90, and anything over 240 while gaming is highely unlikely to be noticed

https://www.howtogeek.com/888948/how-many-fps-can-the-human-eye-see

Though i will also say that many websites did corroborate the fact that higher refresh rate is better for things like shooters which lets you detect very slight movements.

But again, most people say that anything over 240 is overkill

[smoky flame]

the fake frames don't really cause blurs, that's more likely to be the upscaling that does that and GPUs will continue to get more expensive due to how they are made not becoming any cheaper, similar to games too

[jagged venture]

Items are supposed to become cheaper the more technology is introduced, see the car, plane tickets, etc.

Games getting more expensive is because of management bloat, gpus getting more expensive because games are getting over demanding on graphical fidelity, when, again, indie games and AA titles are not pushing the limits of blinding graphics yet selling gang busters. I fail to see how this is a good direction for the industry to go given this, albeit second hand informed, direction

(also i don't know anything about the upscaling debate, there was a video that went into depth about it so that's what i pulled my info from)

[blissful carbon]

I couldn't agree more.

[lethal yew]

So i got my gaming laptop and im planning to upgrade it to 32 gb, im assuming there is no setup needed to be done after changing ram?

[dusky wave]

Just xmp the ram in the bios to make sure the ram runs at the best speed

[lethal yew]

Oh

[smoky flame]

the RAM can be upgraded on this laptop yeah? That's one of the first things I would make sure of

[lethal yew]

It can be yes

2 slots available to insert ram

Its got 16 gigs by default

[devout remnant]

500Hz is no where near the limit

https://blurbusters.com/massive-upgrade-with-120-vs-480-hz-oled-much-more-visible-than-60-vs-120-hz-even-for-office/

[devout remnant]

This guy gets it

[lethal yew]

I know this may sound obvious, but Is it necessary to change the power mode to best performance while gaming

Its not the same as overclocking is it?

[dusky wave]

no. it deals with how much power the laptop draws. like best efficiency or batttery saver mode

[lethal yew]

so i'm guessing best perfrormance mode should be activated for gaming?

[dusky wave]

u could try it. i havent used laptop in gaming in years

[lethal yew]

oh i see

but what mode do u use otherwise

[dusky wave]

wdym?

[lethal yew]

the power mode, which one do you use personally

balanced or best performance?

[dusky wave]

really not sure. ii dont play attention to that on desktop. u need to research and see what u like

[lethal yew]

alright fair enough

[icy orbit]

well what do you want

do you want best performance? or best battery life? lol

plugged in i see no reason not to use best performance but do whatever

[lethal yew]

i just hope best performance doesn't affect my laptop's lifespan that's it really

I would go for best performance of course if that isn't the case

[cinder veldt]

as long as you take care of your laptop it shouldnt

Keep it plugged in, make sure its slightly elevated so the fans can actually breathe.

[safe plover]

uh does anyone here got a problem error 0X80073CF0 and fixed it? and how

because I'm struggling with it here.

pc

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

[normal plover]

That’s cool

[smoky flame]

I don't think its as much to do with the graphics as it is the processes in how GPUs are made in the factories. That's what I was getting at before where costs are going up. GPU die and CPU die are not getting any easier or cheaper to make (seemingly) and that is where the big kicker of cost increases comes in. You may also have to factor in tariffs as those will have something of an impact on the cost where companies don't or can't absorb all the costs and instead pass that onto the consumer but the less of that stuff mentioned the better.
TL:DR? Technology is in a weird timeline right now where costs don't seem to be coming down but rather going up to a multitude of factors

[smoky flame]

if power modes behave the same way as power plans do I would just leave it at the default Balanced mode. That way the laptop only uses the power it needs rather than running the CPU and GPU at max frequency even when idle or doing light tasks like browsing or using Discord

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[devout remnant]

Indeed !!

And very exciting

[lethal yew]

I was thinking of getting a laptop cooler

[icy orbit]

and whats that gonna do that the laptops cooling already doesnt

[devout remnant]

@smoky flame going to benchmark Doom, MK & Flight Sim 2024 since they’re on Game Pass

[dusky wave]

i would imagine flight sim 2024 will have the lowest perf

[devout remnant]

Why 😭

I need MAXIMUM Perf

[neat turret]

Yo is there anyone who's xbox app not launching aswell?

[devout remnant]

Mine is fine, check the Microsoft Store App for any updates.

@smoky flame any other Benchmark Game Recommendations?

[neat turret]

I'm trying for weeks to fix this god damm issue,the xbox live chat support ain't even working now.
At last i posted the issue on feedback hub, it's been 4 days,no comments or anything,i just can't get this app to open anymore.

[devout remnant]

#1091756150644555946

[neat turret]

There's so many other people asking there for "Support" but none of em are getting even 1 legit comment.

[obsidian bobcat]

This is volunteer community support. There are no guarantees to how fast someone will respond, or if anyone will respond at all.

No one here has access to account information. No one here can help with self-repair.

If you want urgent support or anything account-related then you have to contact official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/

[smoky flame]

BO6 has a benchmark

[lethal yew]

Well it will improve the cooling more, my friend has said he saw a 6-10 degrees dip in temperatures on average when using those cooling devices

[dusky wave]

So does most of the newer ubisoft titles

[dusky wave]

Check out cities skyline 2.

[devout remnant]

@smoky flame

Which benchmark did you run?

On Doom?

Ah I see - you did the first one (Hebeth)

Just did 2x Runs

One pure Native Ultra Nightmare

One UN with FG x4

[dusky wave]

Did u try cities skylines 2 i heard it was 15 fps on a 5090 or a 4090 forgot which

[cinder veldt]

4090

[devout remnant]

It doesn’t have a Benchmark

[cinder veldt]

the bench mark is the population and at 700k its about 30 fps

(5090)

(at 5120x1440)

also

theres a msi board coming out and it looks pretty sick and rather innovative

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X870E-GODLIKE

the power connectors are on the right side of the board

[dusky wave]

Ouch

[smoky flame]

GODLIKE has a price fitting for its name

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-meg-x870-godlike-amd-x870e-am5-ddr5-pcie-50-7x-m2-5g-wifi7-tb4-amd-expo-dynamic-dashboard-iii-ea

[devout remnant]

Best Motherboard Ever was the ASUS Glacial

You should see the price on that 😉

Almost £2,000

[smoky flame]

there is no way I would spend that kind of money on a motherboard. Lucky if I'd spend a third of that sort of pricing. I wouldn't spend more than what I spend on the CPU itself (I got my 9800X3D for £470)

can't even remember how much I paid for the motherboard I have back in 2023 but it wasn't even £300 I'm pretty sure as it is the ASUS Strix B650E-F

[devout remnant]

Yeah mine I can’t remember but was about £600-£800

^ Native ^ - Ultra Nightmare

^ With Frame Gen ^

^ New High Score ^

[smoky flame]

I've had a friend talk me over some RAM tuning so idk how benchmarks from me are going to look going forward. Obviously I won't be beating a 5090 with just better RAM tuning but results should be a bit stronger than they were previously or just much the same lol

I would share the changes but I think the adjustments only apply to A-Die kits specifically

[devout remnant]

I can make a small impact for sure, maybe run the CPU Profile too in 3DMark as a baseline

[cinder veldt]

like vram tuning?

in my experience it can make a difference on budget cards ie the 6600

i havent really tried it on my 7900 gre

but from the information i see you can get the gre to a raw performance of a 7900xt

[cinder veldt]

so i did an overclock test on 2077 and i did manage to get a 10 fps difference in the average, it ran a little more cooler then the default (ran around 65-67 at most whilst base ran around 70 to 71 at most) i didnt really see any difference in vram clock speeds or usage, used about the same amount. It did use about 45 watts more power aswell

[dusky wave]

tried bf6 beta. not for me

i actually bit the bullet and turn on secure boot on my pc

[cinder veldt]

https://imgur.com/a/lIEBFbU

left is overclock, right is normal

(it did crash when i went back to the main menu so -100mv is not exactly stable on a asrock 7900)

[smoky flame]

only problem with that is I have no baseline having never ran a CPU Profile test on the previous configuartion before. All I'd have to go by is how the RAM is tuned now and maybe redoing some previous benchmarks. CPU and GPU remain stock with the only likely changes being BIOS, chipset and GPU driver updates since some benchmarks were completed

[smoky flame]

not VRAM, no. RAM. According to what I was told this is currently as good as A-Die DDR5 can be optimized. I used the XMP/DOCP profile that gets me to 6000 MT/s as a baseline and then tuned the timings and subtimings and lets just put it this way, they are much improved overall compared to the default profile I used

even to a point I was nervous to apply them as there was so many changes lol

[devout remnant]

An I understand although you had a very good result!

[devout remnant]

Same, runs fantastic but not for me

Will wait for BO7

[cinder veldt]

i betting serious coin that itll be like bo6

@dusky wave by the way remember when i threw out the idea of making a laptop out of desktops part? apparently that was done recently

I wanna take a look at the video but the idea was taking a itx motherboard, cutting off everything that got in the way, taking off the gpu shroud and applying copper heatsinks, and this was used with a 5090

[devout remnant]

At that point, what is the point 😄

[cinder veldt]

also i was wrong it was a radeon gpu

https://youtu.be/SfUCBTpOvCE?si=JDkjUgFZ7okYmZhz

[cinder veldt]

If you strapped me to a chair and told me
"you can only leave after you either do a custom water loop or make a laptop" id take the laptop

[devout remnant]

Need some game recommendations 😭

[smoky flame]

Borderlands 4!

[devout remnant]

Is that the new one?

[smoky flame]

Yeah, releases in a little over a month

[pulsar cargo]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Strix-XG27ACS-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B086ZSLPN1 Oh, I bought another monitor! 😄

£228 on Amazon, got it for £80

Was brand new, sealed box.

[smoky flame]

nice

[runic stratus]

Playing ai corn games so far its been great, thinking of converting to atheism

[icy orbit]

lol bless

amazing

[floral quail]

how is razer support regarding old products?

i have a keyboard from like 5-6 years back and its started to rust on multiple places

first it was just in one spot now its spreading

[smoky flame]

I don't think peripherals like keyboard and mouse have a warranty that would go beyond 2 years but that really doesn't sound or look good. How can a keyboard rust? Has it come into contact with water often?

[floral quail]

i did wipe those areas with wet wipes before, and then with a dry cloth immediately, and i stopped ever since that spot started rusting, there has been no moisture on the other parts aswell

one of the areas is covered by the magnetic wrist rest 24/7

it has been a few years since that first spot

[smoky flame]

I wouldn't think the use of wet wipes could do that. I think you'd be best trying to get in touch with Razer support and see if you can send them those pictures. Really odd that

if you can, you might even want to stop using that keyboard too. The paint or metal finish wrinkling up like that in the other two screenshots doesn't look good either. Did it get like that (the wrinkling looking stuff) before the rust started to show?

[floral quail]

i think so, and I just got a new mouse so i cant get a decent keyboard till atleast next year

[floral quail]

the wrinkling is also around the rusting itself so, probably not a good sign

and razer support cant help cuz its out of warranty

[dusky wave]

I thought so.

[floral quail]

that sucks, got a few good years with this one though

[dusky wave]

Most warranty last 2 years at best in regards to tech

U cant expect a company to support a product if they dont make that product for a number of years

[dusky wave]

I just gotten a new mouse and keyboard a few weeks back

[floral quail]

biggest question for me is, when i switch keyboards, do I stay razer or go to some other company

[dusky wave]

Depends on what ur needs for ur keyboard. Do u want hybrid mechanical a specific keyboard size the type of keyboard keys etc...

Getting mouse and keyboard is getting pulled into 40 different directions

[floral quail]

i got a razer basilisk wireless because i already had a deathadder and wanted something new, not just the same thing without wire and i love razer mice, they are comfy and reliable (in my experience)

but not so sure about keyboard cuz i want a better sounding one

[dusky wave]

U dont need an expensive 200 usd keyboard. I got a mechanical with red backlight wired for like 20 usd

Then u really need to test that and see what type of keys u want

[raven hull]

If you spend a lot of time on customizing profiles, I would stick with Razer.

[icy orbit]

why

any good keyboard has VIA support

[raven hull]

To not create them again….
Just saying I won’t spend time recreating the profiles.

[floral quail]

yeah i found a good keyboard on a layout i like, the keychron k4. but theres no stores here to test it

[dusky wave]

I brought a lemokey x4 or was it is x2

[floral quail]

x2 is the full one it seems and x4 is the lesser keyboard

[dusky wave]

Then its x2. I needed a full keyboard

[icy orbit]

youre very unlikely to find good peripherals in brick and mortar

unless youre going to very specific stores that is

[jagged venture]

I will always praise the steelseries gg program, imo it's better than razer's

[lethal yew]

Does the cpu need driver updates or is that only a gpu thing?

[blissful carbon]

Chipset drivers exist yes.

The CPU itself does not need driver updates but the chipset supporting it does sometimes

[lethal yew]

Oh

Does that usually improve cpu performance at times or not really

[icy orbit]

shame their products suck

but yeah their software isnt too bad

[blissful carbon]

more so fixes bugs but potentially can if a bug is limiting performance

[lethal yew]

Hmm, i should also mention my gaming laptop has worse performance in a 13 year old game than relatively recent games somehow 😂

[blissful carbon]

This happens sometimes. Newer hardware does not always play nice with much older APIs.

plus the game would have been optimized for much older hw anyways

[lethal yew]

I have an rtx 5070ti laptop and it comfortably hovers around 80-90 fps on ultra in far cry 6 while stays in the 70 fps region on high for far cry 3, not even
Ultra. Along with constant freezing

[lethal yew]

Ye ive heard it used to give 100+ fps for those gtx 980 cards, but the newer cards (30 series and onwards) struggle to exceed 100 with this game

[blissful carbon]

In the case of 5000 series a lack of PhysX might be to blame for older games running poorly

[lethal yew]

So i should not be panicking about the poor performance at all right?

[blissful carbon]

right

[lethal yew]

It ran doom eternal on 165 fps ultra

So i think ye that confirms it's a game issue

Its a shame tho, is there nothing that can be done software related to make 50 series cards better performing for old games?

[icy orbit]

if youre truly concerned about games that are that old i question why you have a modern desktop

but no just run them at max settings and call it a day

[lethal yew]

*modern laptop

But ye well im doing a mix of both really, i want to play the newest titles and the really old ones

I've been wanting to play some of the older games for a while and they're available at insanely good prices on steam

[blissful carbon]

Realistically if you have hybrid cores, an older game should have its affinity set to only run on the Performance cores

This applies to Intel CPUs in particular

[lethal yew]

Oh mine has an amd one

Ryzen 9 8940hx or smth like that

[blissful carbon]

What is the game that is giving you performance issues?

[lethal yew]

Far cry 3

This is the first game ive tried that's before 2020

The other two are doom eternal and far cry 6, both have given more than satisfactory performance as ive mentioned

[blissful carbon]

this game has known performance issues on ALL hardware

[lethal yew]

And were released in 2020 or later

[lethal yew]

Ye i saw the forums and was really shocked

Some people with killer specs were getting like 50 fps

First problem was that the game runs at unrestricted fps so I was getting like 400 fps in the main menu and my laptop was SCREAMING

[blissful carbon]

so your laptop is absolutely not the issue here

[lethal yew]

Ye but im just wondering if anything at all could be done to improve the performance for far cry 3

I've been trying many solutions on reddit forums but none have boosted the fps really

[blissful carbon]

Google has some suggestions. I don't have the game myself though

[lethal yew]

Fair enough

[blissful carbon]

the game may also simply not play nice with modern OS

[lethal yew]

So i limited the fps for far cry 3 in the Nvidia control panel, is this better to do than enabling vsync in game settings?

[blissful carbon]

that depends on the game

[lethal yew]

Ye and add up to the fact that 50 series cards have even worse support for 32 bit games

[blissful carbon]

only PhysX 32 bit support is lost

[lethal yew]

Oh

Ye I think it gives all the processing for physics to the cpu now

I should also mention that far cry 3 was using only 30% of my gpu at all times

[blissful carbon]

CPU usage?

[lethal yew]

I think it was 14-20%

It never went over that

[blissful carbon]

Were any cores pinned to close to max?

[lethal yew]

Oh idk about that

Nvidia overlay doesn't give you much detail

[blissful carbon]

If they were there is your bottleneck

likely PhysX related

[lethal yew]

Damn

[blissful carbon]

there may be a way to reduce the physx stuff in the game options

[lethal yew]

Ye I dont think my cpu Is that weak

[blissful carbon]

it isnt

but if the game is trying to do physx on just 1 core... well

[lethal yew]

Ouch

So how do I see this core was utilization

What overlay do i use

[blissful carbon]

task manager can show it

msi afterburner has something for it too

[lethal yew]

Hmm

Just to clarify alt tabbing to task manager won't make the laptop switch to the integrated gpu right?

[blissful carbon]

idk depends on the laptop to some extent

[lethal yew]

Hmm

[lethal yew]

Ye downloading with rtss or smth like that

I might start using that because the Nvidia performance overlay is very basic

[blissful carbon]

I might buy FC3 just to have a crack at trying to make it run well

[lethal yew]

It doesn't even show cpu temps, only gpu

[lethal yew]

Lmao, i think it was around 3 usd for me when i got it, converting the currency

[blissful carbon]

oh nevermind... nope not dealing with that again

[lethal yew]

Oh

What's the problem with that?

It does ask me for uplay account login time to time whenever I launch fc3

[blissful carbon]

the log in system is obnoxious for me

and it has in the past sent me unsolvable captchas

[lethal yew]

Ye I get you, i assumed ubisoft games on steam woukd run independently but that was too good to be true

Could this also be messing with performance? This whiole cross-launcher stuff

[blissful carbon]

unlikely

[lethal yew]

Oh

[blissful carbon]

once the game actually launches, the launchers generally stop running anything

[lethal yew]

Ah

[blissful carbon]

it basically hands over control to the game at that point

[lethal yew]

Hmm

I wonder do ea games on steam do this too

[icy orbit]

yeah

[lethal yew]

Damn

[icy orbit]

theyre just there for their services

r6s uses ubisoft launcher for ubisoft connect for the multiplayer and accounts and stuff

[lethal yew]

I see

But i think bf2042 had cross-launcher multiplayer

Many players had steam/epic games icons beside them

Well anyways, fingers crossed that bioshock 1 and 2 remastered dont have atrocious performance like fc3

I believe those two were released in 2016 so they should work relatively fine on modern hardware

[dusky wave]

I never had an issue with it. like in ac shadows on steam

[lethal yew]

Does it not ask for uplay login? It keeps asking me that most times whenever I launch far cry 3

[dusky wave]

no just once in a while usually after a big ubi connect update

[cinder veldt]

EAs launcher is alright

its not like ubis launcher

and how the ubisoft launcher is tied to the xbox app on pc for some reason

[cinder veldt]

fun fact on older single player titles like Far Cry 2 it installs punkbustr

a anticheat

[blissful carbon]

Yep, I am familiar with punkbuster. Honestly one of the best names for an anticheat.

[rain canyon]

Send it

[normal plover]

Got an absolute bargain on this monitor

[pulsar cargo]

From where?

Looks similar to one I saw at a carboot. A man had loads of them brand new, boxed.

[normal plover]

Facebook marketplace. The guy apparently bought it but didn't find time for games and his space wasn't big enough

Got it £130 off the box price so it's a w in my eyes

[pulsar cargo]

£130 seems like a new price. I paid £80 for a Rog strix 1440p 180hz. Was new too.

[normal plover]

Nah I paid 70

£130 off is what I meant

The setup is set up!!

[dusky wave]

Nice looking setup raptor

[normal plover]

The desk is the most expensive thing in the setup apart from the pc

Both monitors were haggled, but the other one is much older

[dusky wave]

Nice.

[dusky wave]

My new desk cost like 125 or so from amazon. 51 inch l shape

[normal plover]

Cool

[lethal yew]

Have you guys ever observed a noticeable improvement in gaming performance by disabling your antivirus' real time scanning?

[dusky wave]

i dont think i done that

[mellow lintel]

that feels like a terrible idea ngl

[cinder veldt]

if i turn off my anti virus then my cpu usage and gpu usage spikes to 100% therefore im getting max performance for my pc

i just ignore the cmd prompt that pops up and a program called "bitminerpro.32bit" in the task manager

[blissful carbon]

lol

[mellow lintel]

I think suggesting people turn off their anti virus is a dumb idea

[blissful carbon]

or reckless at the least

[dusky wave]

Totally agree

[cinder veldt]

dw i was just making light of a silly thought of disabling an anti virus

[dusky wave]

Like keeping ur door unlocked

[mellow lintel]

Cannot assume people will understand sarcasm 😂

[blissful carbon]

I don't even always understand context ngl

[cinder veldt]

no amount of fps is worth reinstalling windows after a turbo virus gets everything you love and own

[dusky wave]

Or steal ur personal information

[blissful carbon]

especially with RCE vulnerabilities that have been found in various games

[cinder veldt]

i just assume every game has a rce exploit it just hasnt been found yet

[blissful carbon]

that is not as unlikely as it sounds

[cinder veldt]

hell most anticheat constitute as malware

and are even starting to conflict with other anticheat

[dusky wave]

Secure boot is more necessary for some mp live service games

[cinder veldt]

Secure boot is usually an indication of a game using kernal level anticheat

most of the time people complain unless its league of legends because that game has an inescapable death grip

[smoky flame]

League of Legends and Valorant use the same anti cheat right?

[cinder veldt]

yes

and strangly enough it works better in league rather then valo

[lethal yew]

Well im really only thinking of disabling the real time scanning of my antivirus during the time I play and re-enable once I'm done, and i only play singleplayer nowadays so the threat of a virus attack is a bit low at that time I suppose

My cpu utilization while playing never exceeds 20% tho so maybe it's not really going to make a huge difference in performance

[dusky wave]

Still wouldn't recommend it

[smoky flame]

I would just leave it enabled. Hardly a need to change those settings, especially if it results in compromising your devices security

[dusky wave]

And what happens if u forget to turn it back on. Seems too much of a hassle turning it on and off for miniscule increase in perf

[smoky flame]

I wouldn’t think there is any noticeable difference

[dusky wave]

Same though i wouldn't test that

[smoky flame]

me neither. I value my device security

[lethal yew]

Fair enough

[dusky wave]

Me too

[lethal yew]

Ye I was thinking about that too, can always make slip ups and they could be costly in the end

[dusky wave]

Its not like u need to run single player games at above 60fps for the most part.

[lethal yew]

True

I have just gotten so obsessed with disabling as many background processes as possible

That aren't really needed to run in background

Like ea app, discord, ms edge

[dusky wave]

My advice dont do that unless u know what each of the background processes do