pc-gaming

[cinder veldt]

the white or black one?

[raven hull]

as someone who built many pc, if there's an option for a pro to built it, I pick the pro. the money spend is worth the time saved. plus the pros do great cable management.

[dusky wave]

Probably whatevwr is cheaper

[cinder veldt]

the nzxt one?

[dusky wave]

Yeah

[half ore]

If it's within the budget ofc

[raven hull]

this is a private company? I have never seen build service costing more that 100.

[cinder veldt]

Im 50/50 on the idea. I never took you for someone who liked aesthetic builds

[half ore]

That's good

[dusky wave]

I dont. I just think it looks cool

[cinder veldt]

ZTT used to have a place on his store front where he would do custom pc request for 500+cost of parts

[dusky wave]

Plus my cable management on current pc is very bad

[cinder veldt]

I would say go for it. But i suggest a 360 aio, not out of performance but because they look really nice in fishtanks

if not thats okay.

Idk how hot AM5 gets

probably not that hot tho

[dusky wave]

This is still a year or two in the future

Im probably do a aio in the future as well

I only did an air cooler

[raven hull]

yeah, this sounds like a private/small company. high cost is probably for insurance coverage. major retails have insurance with the manufactures, so they cover the cost.

[half ore]

Does it matter

[cinder veldt]

Yesn't

No it doenst matter as it doesnt effect performance
Yes it does matter because when you want to upgrade something its going to be a headache

in my case adding sata storage to my pc

[half ore]

Why is that? Just pull the damn plugs out

[cinder veldt]

Because when pulling out the plug you need to pull out you'll probably stress the other wires

[half ore]

Damn , buying a pc is making a lifetime decision now 😭

I gotta think and research alot before I go through with a plan for buying the parts

[dusky wave]

Correct

[half ore]

@dusky wave @cinder veldt thanks for all the help , I'll think and research more and hopefully ask you guys more questions if you guys are fine with it. Thank you!

[dusky wave]

Np. Just research if u want a laptop or a pc.

[cinder veldt]

np

[tardy torrent]

Helloo

[stoic viper]

you can buy a good laptop for $1000 that will handle all of this at 1080pi resolution on max settings (I recommend buying a laptop with a 1080pi screen).Well, you can play GTA 6, I'm sure.

Well, I think a PC with a monitor will be about 20% cheaper

By the way, I advise you to get a 1440p monitor because now it is difficult to play on a 1080 pi PC because of the large monitor

[dusky wave]

How big r laptop screens upto 18 inches?

Idk

[stoic viper]

Well, 1080pi is good for a 17" screen, but 1080 is bad for a 24" monitor.

maximum 1080 pi is a 21 inch monitor

[half ore]

So you're saying laptop is more preferable than pc with the budget

[stoic viper]

and now the company makes games in 1440p resolution, because of this 1080p looks even worse

[stoic viper]

No

[half ore]

Isn't that what you just said 😭

[half ore]

^

[stoic viper]

Well, you can choose it, well, it's not that bad.I would choose a laptop if I had money now but I'm not you I know that most people are better off with a PC

[half ore]

Hm pc would be cheaper and better right

[stoic viper]

Well, yes, in terms of power

somewhere with a monitor and keyboard 10% - 15% cheaper and 20-30% more powerful

[smoky flame]

what did I miss? I was catching up with a TV series

[stoic viper]

can you recommend a build with a 1000 dollar pc with a monitor and keyboard?

[stoic viper]

for this guy

[half ore]

Oh he's the pc expert ay

That's what the other guy said earlier

[devout remnant]

AMD released the 9090 XTX

£1,499 releasing next month

[smoky flame]

not sure I'd call myself a PC expert. I may know a fair bit but definitely not an expert

[smoky flame]

April fools right? haha

[devout remnant]

Me, dreaming 😄

[median furnace]

I'm looking into getting a laptop. Not sure which to get. I need some storage and speed. Mainly will be used for school and gaming. Anything i should look for in specific

[smoky flame]

I don't think AMD are planning to release any higher end RDNA 4 GPUs. Next up will be UDNA and maybe then we will see the higher end again

[stoic viper]

too expensive video card for games it is worse in 3D modeling than RTX 5080 because of which there is no point in buying it

too expensive for games worse than competitor in work

[stoic viper]

Well, I think so too

[stoic viper]

for how much?

[median furnace]

Probably 1500 below

[blissful carbon]

I am hyped for UDNA for compute reasons

[smoky flame]

I really hope AMD add to what they did with RDNA 4. Bringing RDNA and CDNA together could be a big risk though if these next gen GPUs are compute beasts us gamers aren't going to see them or we're going to see AMD GPUs scalped at the same (or a very similar) scale as Nvidia GPUs often are right now, though I am excited to see what AMD do none the less

[stoic viper]

Well, I live in Kazakhstan, the prices are different there (i.e. more expensive). I would recommend laptops with RTX4060 M with a 1080 pi monitor, not 1440 pi, because RTX4060 M is weak for 1440 pi. I would say the same with RTX4070 M (in fact, RTX4070 М is equal in power to RTX4060 PC). But it is difficult to find a laptop with RTX4070 M with a screen smaller than 1440 pi. By the way, do not buy 1600 pi screen laptops . I recommend buying a laptop with two channels

The best company in laptops is Asus

[dusky wave]

I actually had to google where that country is

[stoic viper]

center of the world

[median furnace]

Is victus any good?

[stoic viper]

Well, yes

By the way, it is better to buy a laptop with Ryzen, not Intel, because recently Intel had a huge defect and processor deaths

[stoic viper]

Well, all my """friends'"" gaming laptops on Intel haven't broken.

[median furnace]

I found an Asus
Processor Model:AMD Ryzen 7 7000 Series
Graphics:AMD Radeon RX 7700S
System Memory (RAM):16 gigabytes
Display Type:LED
Screen Size:16 inches
Total Storage Capacity:512 gigabytes
Screen Resolution:1920 x 1200 (WUXGA)

[stoic viper]

video card only from nvidia is better for laptops.16 10 is not really suitable for PC because there will be black frames

16 10 is 1920 x 1200

[median furnace]

Sent you a dm with all the details of what I found.

[dusky wave]

I think im between high and very high. If i get 50ish fps at 4k im happy

[devout remnant]

Plans can change!

[devout remnant]

???

[devout remnant]

That’s not true

I played 16:10 for many years

1600p

[stoic viper]

what is better in blender radeon or rtx?

[stoic viper]

I generally say that 16 x 10 is slightly worse than 16 x 9

[devout remnant]

RTX

[stoic viper]

I'm not saying that it's very critical

[devout remnant]

Why you see more

16:10 is better than 16:9 imo

[stoic viper]

I wrote that in blender rx 9090 will be worse than the competitor

[devout remnant]

9090 isn’t a real GPU

[stoic viper]

I enjoy watching movies and YouTube at 16:9

[stoic viper]

I'm not sure, I don't think so

[devout remnant]

I enjoy 19.5:9

[stoic viper]

you see a little more than 16x9 and there are games not made for 16x10

[devout remnant]

This was years ago, I’m back to 16:9 now

[stoic viper]

I have 16 x 10 and 16 x 9 and I can say for a normal person 16 x 9 will be better

[devout remnant]

I’m normal person

[stoic viper]

I don't use it as an insult

[median furnace]

Asus
2880x1800
120Hz
500 nits
AMD Ryzen 9 8000 Series
4gigahertz Base clock
1000 gigabytes Storage
16 gigabytes ram
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060
6400 megahertz
Windows 11 compatibility
Advanced Graphics Rendering Technique(s)
DLSS 3 (Deep Learning Super Sampling), Ray tracing

[median furnace]

Would this be alright for gaming and schooling. And some programming

[stoic viper]

resolution( screen resolution) is high for rtx 4060 m

[median furnace]

Is that bad?

[stoic viper]

rtx 4060 is basically a video card for 1080p at maximum settings 90 fps or more

[median furnace]

Screen Resolution says 2880x1800 full HD. Some say more with 4k

ASUS - ROG Zephyrus G14 14" OLED 3K 120Hz Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS - 16GB LPDDR5X - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 - 1TB SSD - Platinum White
This is currently what I viewed

[devout remnant]

OLED 😍

[median furnace]

Is that bad?

[dusky wave]

No. Oled is the best type of screen u could get

[stoic viper]

Oled is good

it is brighter than IPS

[median furnace]

That's what I'll get then.

[stoic viper]

You can take it, it's a good laptop

good luck

[median furnace]

Thanks

[civic tide]

anyone know how to fix my games needing a full reinstall after an update

[iron spindle]

the drive or connection to the drive could be failing/loose/weak.
Or sometimes games just need too reinstall with an update and thats how it is.

[civic tide]

having it happen to 4 different games with one of them being updated recently after an update seems weird, also appears to be on multiple drives

I can see if the drive health is bad but I doubt it is as it is only a couple years old and is a ssd

[cinder veldt]

what kind of ssd?

[civic tide]

and shouldn't be a loose/weak connection as this issue is sort of new

[civic tide]

samsung 860 evo 1tb

only other idea I have is that it might be due to updates stopping due to a bad connection but the size is correct so it doesn't make much since

[cinder veldt]

It could be a drive issue, the Samsung 860 has had issues of courrption of data which could be causing files to courrpt and steam reinstalling games as a result

[civic tide]

well I'm doing a surface test with minitool rn, about 20% done with no errors thus far

[cinder veldt]

alright, im not too certain on ssd failures but let me know if anything comes up

[civic tide]

will do

[civic tide]

scan completed with no errors found

[iron spindle]

did you cancel the update by any chance?

if you start an update then cancel the update it will uninstall the game

[cinder veldt]

cant cancel updates on steam, only pause them or uninstall

[civic tide]

xbox app not steam

[civic tide]

but no just let them update and then have an update the size of the game

[iron spindle]

that's probably just how it is for that game, but i don't know why it happens a lot for you that does not make sense.

[civic tide]

if it was just one game sure, but when it is FH5, NMS, and Palword it doesn't make since

[iron spindle]

that's what i just said.

[civic tide]

yeah but I shouldn't need to reinstall the game in update size when I just updated it

like the update is the exact size of the game

[median furnace]

Just got a MSI - Stealth A16 AI+
Wondering if the
Processor AMD Ryzen AI 300 Series and Graphic card are good NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070

And wondering how good MSI is

[stoic viper]

msi is ok

[devout remnant]

MSi is ok

[icy orbit]

msi is a brand

[stoic viper]

by the way one of the things i want is titan

They have a brand of laptops called Titan.Titan literally has the best components for gaming laptops

but it costs 6k dollars

[icy orbit]

why tho

[stoic viper]

MSI's Titan 18 HX Dragon Edition Norse Myth redefines the standard for gaming laptops. Powered by the latest Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 processor 285HX and up to NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5090 Laptop GPU, this limited-edition beast delivers unparalleled performance with a stunning Norse mythology-inspired design. Featuring intricate engravings and a dragon spirit plaque, it's more than just a high-performance laptop—it's a true collectible masterpiece. Built for those who demand legendary power and resilience, this Titan is ready to conquer any challenge as your ultimate gaming powerhouse.

Titans in many countries do not have more than 10-15. There are a lot of people with RTX 5090 but few people with Titan . A man with titanium is like the coolest padike

[icy orbit]

but like

its still a laptop

unless you literaly never stay at one point why wouldnt you buy an actual tower machine with an actual 5090 + a cheaper but still powerful laptop

[smoky flame]

What are those all about? Intel’s latest CPU was a mess on a gaming capacity. Lacks hyperthreading while the 14900K (the CPU it was meant to succeed) beats it in most games and the latest Zen 5 X3D CPUs take them both down in most games

[solemn orbit]

there read what they are about

[smoky flame]

Yeah, I read them but not sure what relevance they really have. If people choose a CPU over the scores of any of these results rather than seeing how they perform in actual games they are going to be massively let down

https://youtu.be/3djp0X1yNio?si=vYeFxbw2tlZzVZkZ

Even with the BIOS updates Intel have implemented in the months that followed this video and some games have updated to improve support for the Intel Ultra 200 series I don’t think either really helped improve the overall outlook of the difference between the two and now AMD have a faster CPU with more cores (albeit 8 of the 16 cores use 3D V Cache)

[solemn orbit]

those wasnt gaming test

[patent hound]

Well this channel is about pc “gaming” 😝

[solemn orbit]

true

[cinder veldt]

The Ultra Core Series may have made strides in Non gaming preformance
but its still a flop in everyones eyes

[smoky flame]

I think it may be Intel's biggest flop

[cinder veldt]

Id argue 11th gen was the biggest flop, 14th and 13th i feel were inherently okay after the microcode fixes

[smoky flame]

that is a very close second imo, the 12th-14th gen issues. 11th gen was just a waste of sand as I think I remember many referring to it as but yeah, while it is true the Core Ultra 200 series is making waves outside of gaming the downgrade in performance in gaming really isn't great. When last gen is better than it post microcode fixes it makes for some pretty sad reading if you ask me

why I included 12th gen is because it too was affected but not to the same extent 13th and 14th gen were. 12th gen seemed to be least affected but not entirely out of the woods

[solemn orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O2UogvuQpR4?feature=share

that is shareware. i had real paid physical box version what i get same time when i got my first pc

im so lucky first videogame ever what i played was Doom because it was so good and it still is

my second game was Warcraft: Orcs & Humans what was awesome too

third was System Shock

then was Doom 2

and after that Wolfenstein 3D it was still very good

[cinder veldt]

12th gen never had issues like the 13th or 14th gen had (afaik), and i would say thats probably their best generation as of recent

(just saw the second part of the message)

point still stands is the best in awhile

if not that then 9th oe 10th gen

[ruby spear]

https://fxtwitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1902918097612181763

Massimo (@[e-mail])

Nvidia revealed that the Las Vegas Sphere is powered by 150 RTX A6000 GPUs, with 48 GB of video memory each.
︀︀
︀︀All this hardware drives 1.2 million LED panels outside and the 16000x16000 screens inside.
︀︀
︀︀The total cost of the GPUs is over $1m.

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[cinder veldt]

Strange this got reposted a year after but pretty neat

[stoic viper]

I hope Tan will show everyone who is the boss

[stoic viper]

i deleted lol
probably won't play anymore
i have something i didn't have when i started playing lol
i have friends

[icy orbit]

LoL was the reason it took so long to get them

❤️

[smoky flame]

when you buy an Nvidia GPU 😄

or rather more specifically an RTX 4090, 5080 or 5090 as that horrible 12vhpwr connector has been known to melt on those. I don't think I'll ever trust that connector but sooner or later I might have no choice but to if more AMD partners use it 😦

[icy orbit]

any skill issue 16 pin gpu that doesnt have load balancing

if you figure out how to put 10000w through a 5070 it would also succumb to the flames

[smoky flame]

crazy thing is Nvidia recently announced a GPU even more powerful than the 5090 and it too uses the 12vhpwr connector but is workstation. Can't see that going well if the 5090 faced issues, that is sure to as well, unless they actually put in the effort to load balance that but then serious questions should be thrown at Nvidia engineers as to why that didn't also happen with the Geforce RTX cards

[icy orbit]

issues everywhere

PCI SIG for being incompetent, nvidia for... also being incompetent and then some users just not putting it in properly

what workstation card are you on about

[smoky flame]

RTX 6000 PRO

pretty sure it is full Blackwell GB202 die as it has over 24000 CUDA cores and 96GB GDDR7 (ECC) that thing makes the 5090 look small

[icy orbit]

hot

[smoky flame]

very spicy, that's for sure 😄

[devout remnant]

Almost full

[stoic viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doIP80ApW7k

[cinder veldt]

Can it fix the ark dlc trailer?

[devout remnant]

Ouch, stopped any chance of me going AMD this time around 🙈

[smoky flame]

damn, that is a rough result

[dusky glacier]

oh betta go to Nvidia so

i was quite to go to AMD but with this result

[smoky flame]

its one game from many. It'll win some and lose some. Something to keep in mind is if Gears 5 was an Nvidia feature title or not. I can't remember now

Why I bring that up and always will is because Nvidia feature titles tend to favour their own hardware and in this instance it isn't even funny the clear bias that is on show. These GPUs are much closer in many other games, even other Nvidia feature titles don't have a gap that large

[stoic viper]

is there FSR 4?

[devout remnant]

No

It actually ran better on AMD when it launched.

[devout remnant]

I don’t use upscaling tech, regardless.

[smoky flame]

That’s odd then how there is such a wide gap 🤔

[cinder veldt]

No driver support perhaps?

[stoic viper]

what platforms can you recommend?

I really love steamworld dig 2 one of my favorite games

[blissful carbon]

At the prices Nvidia is asking you would think the cards would be engineered to insanity and back.

[cinder veldt]

crash 2

[cinder veldt]

interestingly enough Nvidia cards had more issues on gears 5

[stoic viper]

I honestly don't want to buy a video card from Nvidia

I have three video cards in a row from Nvidia

I only had a video card from Nvidia

to be honest i want to buy a video card from amd but amd is much inferior to nvidia in rt

for me rt is very important in a video card

because rt makes aaa games beautiful

As a person who spent 6 years drawing, I can say that lighting is important.

[smoky flame]

ray tracing will become more important but its still too demanding currently for me to use

[dusky wave]

rt isnt for the most part worth the perf hit

[solemn reef]

I don't even notice ray tracing that much when it's turned on compared to when it's off

the only two games where I do notice it is Cyberpunk 2077 and Spider-Man 2 because of the city, you can see reflections off building windows and puddles and all that

[smoky flame]

yeah, in Cyberpunk you enable ray tracing and the performance hit is much worse than even ultra/maxed non ray traced settings and people told me off for gaming at such settings. They need not dare then go vouch for ray tracing since the performance cost is much worse. Cyberpunk even has the bonus of path tracing too, which is even more advanced than ray tracing

the day games can run ray tracing without the need for upscaling or frame generation is when I enable ray tracing. Up until then not interested in the slightest with ray tracing

I'm sure that day will come but much like raster performance it took some time to get to where we are now with that and no doubt it will take a similar length of time to reach a point where ray tracing becomes properly viable with none of the tricks we have today. Didn't need them pre RTX so I don't see why we need them now

[icy orbit]

you cant say "I honestly don't want to buy a video card from Nvidia" and then follow it up with "for me rt is very important"

it suggests theres good alternatives

but yeah RT is cool

[cinder veldt]

RT is whatever

cool it makes light realistic

it looks marginally good in 3 (out of the 500 something games) that use it

||That being Cyberpunk, Indy, and GTA 5 enhanced edition||

[icy orbit]

i think it looks great in several games 👍

[cinder veldt]

we would need them now because Raytracing is significantly easier to implement because game dev hard (also on the $5000 nvidia machines :^^^^))

but yeah maybe when devs figure out how to implement raytracing more efficiently then ill use it more

other then that ill cope with normal lighting

[devout remnant]

That was back on Gears 4 where an Nvidia driver caused crashing / hard system lock ups.

[stoic viper]

I don't want to, but I have to, if I need a video card, I'll buy nvidia, not amd

[icy orbit]

😊

[stoic viper]

that's what I wanted to say

I sound like an Nvidia fan

but i'm not a fan of them

[stoic viper]

rt mostly ray tracing and sometimes Render Target

[stoic viper]

I played survival games but didn't understand how cool they were.

trying to recover from dementia lol

[stoic viper]

sorry there is no disk

[sharp beacon]

That looks old

[stoic viper]

Yeah

[final panther]

Hey how do I switch my download folder to a D drive? It wont let me says it needs to be like NTFS or something.

[iron spindle]

You can do it I'm the Xbox app under downloads install options and yes the drve as to be ntfs

[cinder veldt]

friend wants to get into pc gaming
he has found out pc gaming is no longer possible at a reasonable price
rip

thanks, nvidia, for kiling the market

[raven hull]

I never thought it was reasonable, paying for customization. If want reasonable, that’s why console exists. Also why blaming nvidia?

[blissful carbon]

the situation is far more complex than just Nvidia. TSMC, and supply chain woes are also very much part of the problem. Oh and the AI craze causing GPUs to fly off the shelves too...

[smoky flame]

I think Nvidia also play a large part as they are a market leader and how they set their prices kind of goes. People buy Nvidia GPUs as if there is no other choice. Reminder that AMD do exist too and may offer better value for money and overall availability but yeah, since 2018 the gaming GPU market has been a mess and the fact that's been going on now for about 7 years I don't see any signs of it slowing down any time soon

[exotic jacinth]

Also seems like PC gaming in general is much more popular than it was 10 years ago. I don’t remember there ever being any supply issues then and often you could get GPUs at more reasonable prices. What was high end then is now more of a mid range price now even with inflation taken into account

[stoic viper]

10 years ago dota lol cs go was not so popular

[patent hound]

Consoles are also not available in all regions around the world, but PCs are

[icy orbit]

no idea what nvidia did
if your friend was expecting something good for $300 thats their issue not nvidias

you can get a pretty reasonable machine for like ~$500

[patent hound]

If by reasonable you mean capable of playing games from before 2010 then yes

[cinder veldt]

Kill their previous generation to release a subpar slop generation. Released a total of like 20 cards so there is no cards for this generation. unless if you want to drop 5000 for a scalped 5090. So yes i blame nvidia for being incompetent as they usually have been.
Can't buy 40 series and 30 series cards on used market places because people don't want to sell right now, 20 series and 10 series are pointless to buy. Can't get AyyMD cards either because also starting to increase in price something like the 7900xtx that was sub 900 dollars is now 1300 minimum.
And for reference he was planning to get a 7900xt which is now either out of stock or 250 to 300 more then it usually costs.
We are in a gpu shortage and we must wait because nothing ever happens.

[icy orbit]

how is a shortage nvidias problem

this generation is objectively better than the previous 40 series too

[icy orbit]

😹

12400f + b580 / 6600 / 6750xt / whatever doesnt cost much

but its fine the only game you really need to play is the persona series

any other game is just copium because youre putting off persona

[cinder veldt]

Considering theres only two games in the persona series you'd run out of content worth playing pretty quick

[icy orbit]

????? rage bait

theres way more than 2

[gleaming condor]

Technically 5

Without counting the spin offs and re releases

[cinder veldt]

sorry only 2 worth playing

Should've specified that, mb

[icy orbit]

rage bait

have a good day

[gleaming condor]

I wonder those 2 could be, I smell 5 jonkler

[cinder veldt]

Wrong
2 and 3

5 is probably the worse

[gleaming condor]

Did you play the vanila or royal version?

[cinder veldt]

Vanila, didn't like it so i didn't play royal

[gleaming condor]

You should play royal then

[cinder veldt]

is there a geniune difference

[gleaming condor]

There is.

[cinder steeple]

Hosting a carmeet on forza horizon 5....anyone intrested can drop a dm

[cinder veldt]

if it gets thrown on gamepass and im not playing anything at the moment ill pick it up

But yeah for me it goes
3
2
4
1
5

1 is low because uhh it wasn't good. but it the sense it wasn't for me

[gleaming condor]

Did you finish it?

also which version ps1 or psp?

[cinder veldt]

psp version and no because my PsP got damaged and became unusable

[gleaming condor]

That's unfortunate

I like 3 the most

fes to be specific not the base or portable or reload

[cinder veldt]

I played Base but i really enjoyed the remake

[gleaming condor]

I enjoyed all the versions but I like fes probably for the darker tones and nostalgia ig

[stoic viper]

"Even people from developing countries (like those in Africa, Mongolia, etc.) assemble PCs for at least $1,000 because there's no point in buying cheaper ones

[icy orbit]

dk what "no point" is supposed to mean
itll work and runs windows 11. it wont run the latest aaa titles at 4k.
you do you tho

[smoky flame]

This is coming from me and I bought into the 4K hype way too early but games don’t need to be ran at 4K. If anything 1080p or 1440p is still plenty as you’ll be able to get both performance and visual quality instead of having to compromise on one or the other

Also means if I was to drop back to 1080p for gaming I wouldn’t be using upscaling or frame generation. Upscaling should be limited to no lower than 1080p via the presets each technology uses. Only options that should present themselves is DLAA, FSR Native AA or XeSS Native AA for those at 1080p

[exotic jacinth]

First 4K monitor I got was in 2018 I think, had that paired with the GTX 1080 and an Xbox One X for a while.

I usually prefer 4K 60 over anything with a higher framerate at a lower res. I don’t usually notice the difference much with 120fps or more for the visual quality hit, but that’s just my preference.

[patent hound]

I use a 4090 so playing less than 4k is just going to be a cpu bottleneck

For the majority of games that is

[smoky flame]

even cranking everything up to the max? I thought after a certain point games could become more GPU bound, even at 1080p. Though iirc Nvidia GPUs also have a driver overhead issue to contend with

[patent hound]

Lot of the time yeah. All of the games I play I can run at 4k 60+ so I don’t see the point in going lower

[stoic viper]

It seems like 2k dollars is not that much for the best video card but it is a lot for me I hope it won't be like that for me soon

[icy orbit]

you could just run 1080p now if you wanted
it directly translates to 4K, unlike 1080p on a 1440p monitor

[icy orbit]

a bottleneck isnt something to be scared of

youre already bottlenecked similar to every single computer ever made

its only a word used to describe why infinite performance isnt achievable

[stoic viper]

i just have a 1080pi 144 monitor for 100 bucks.I don't think that's a lot

[patent hound]

CPU bottlenecking is worse than GPU bottlenecking because it causes stutters

[icy orbit]

mmmmmno

but alright 👍

[stoic viper]

your central processor gives more than 150 fps.I don't think the guy with the RTX 4090 has a problem with the processor

[smoky flame]

yeah, something to do with integer scaling or the way scaling works that allows 4K and 1080p. I guess that's how these dual mode monitors came to be? Mine is 1080p 480Hz or 4K 240Hz

[patent hound]

It’s not really an issue, I just think 4k looks a lot better than 1080p, especially on an OLED

[icy orbit]

whaaat really

[smoky flame]

there is definitely a difference and I would prefer 4K too, if it didn't require upscaling to keep above 60 FPS on some games. Always felt if I buy some of the most powerful hardware there should be less compromising and that remains true at 1080p and 1440p but 4K tests even the best hardware

at 1080p I can crank just about all the settings on games to max and i would expect games to run above 60 FPS on a 7900 XTX. 60 FPS has always been my minimum target. Any more? then great

[patent hound]

What is this supposed to be? Sonic the unicorn?

[smoky flame]

no idea but whatever they said after posting that they got muted 😮

[cinder veldt]

Personally my 1440p VA gets the job done

looks good, plays good

but yeah, if you're going from 1080p, 1440p or 4k is going to look way better
however the jump from 1440p into 4k is less then noticeable

[patent hound]

The difference is definitely big enough to notice lol

[cinder veldt]

i guess 4k just doesn't look too different to me coming from 1440p. kinda how i can't see ghosting

[icy orbit]

when was the last time you went to an opticians

itll matter more or less depending on how close you are to the monitor

anyway, my tanchjim mino asano should be here on friday... hopefully

[cinder veldt]

9 years ago

i actually dk but my eyesight is fine

[stoic viper]

I find this funny

[blissful carbon]

This is why I do 1440p

[muted rock]

Looking for some pals to play video games with not just gta5 enhanced I play repo cod r6 and a lot of others I do cayo a lot sometimes depending on the day and all that if interested dm me I am looking for people that are chill and would actually play the game with me and not just unfriend right after!!! I do joke around a lot sometimes by the way but if you can handle jokes and stuff like that I’m sure we could be good pals if interested dm me thank y’all I play pc only btw

[devout remnant]

1440p 🤍

[placid rain]

who knows? Why after today's update the xbox app won't start on pc?

[pallid coyote]

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[ruby spear]

No need to ask in two channels.

[placid rain]

sorry

[iron schooner]

can someone help me figure out why my xbox controller won't connect with my pc via bluetooth

[ruby spear]

Post the details of your issue in #1091756150644555946 (and answer the questions the bot posts - answer thoroughly) and someone will help if/when they can.

[devout remnant]

@smoky flame bought the Monitor 😄

Going to get a 5080 over next few days.

27” 1440p 480Hz OLED.

[smoky flame]

Very nice!

[stoic viper]

I'm happy for you

Good luck

[ruby spear]

What's this all about @stoic viper ?

[stoic viper]

only friends write on my steam page

лол- Lol

for my father-за моего отца

[ruby spear]

Okay? Well, this is an English only server, so please don't post content in other languages and try to keep things relevant to the channel.

[stoic viper]

good

[devout remnant]

Thank you,
There’s one in stock near me atm but will see as it’s the most expensive model and I’d be happy with a regular 5080.

[cinder veldt]

Nice Monitor choice
if i may ask, how much are you getting the 5080 for?

[devout remnant]

About £1,300 for the 5080

[patent hound]

jeez

33% increase over msrp

[smoky flame]

at this point I don’t think MSRP exists on GPUs things are just so messed up

[patent hound]

prebuilts will have better value than building your own at this rate

[cinder veldt]

Maybe in 2 years itll be better

Also Fun Fact the 7900XT i can be found below msrp
(this isn't a good thing btw)

[exotic jacinth]

Not sure what sort of GPU I will go for next, probably won’t be for another 2 or 3 years. I got the 3080Ti for around £600 and still holding up well but seems like that will be more of a midrange price now

[smoky flame]

I’m keeping my budget of up to £1000 max for as long as I can and buying whatever is best for no more than that next gen

[exotic jacinth]

About 600-700 is about as much as I’ll go. Beyond that it’s getting to the point I wouldn’t get the value out of it for me. Probably a 6070 or whatever AMD has at that point

Main thing that puts me off a 5070 would be the 12GB, that’s ridiculous for a 600 or 700 GPU. The 6800XT had that 5 years ago now for 16GB.

[devout remnant]

I mean you’d be saving £100-£300 on the GPU by getting a pre-built,

But then you’ve also got to pay for a whole PC to get that discount 😄

[patent hound]

True, maybe more for people just getting into PC gaming or people who haven’t upgraded in so long they may as well get a new rig

[pallid coyote]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

[stoic viper]

is it worth buying Scott Pilgrim game?

it was recently on sale

[icy orbit]

if you want

[smoky flame]

@devout remnant I forgot to mention after you said you ordered the LG monitor that if you happen to have a colorimeter you can calibrate your monitor with LG Calibration Studio. Nice little extra for those with LG monitors as usually calibration is found only on professional monitors that can cost 3-4x even what mine cost me

[devout remnant]

Nice, I usually enjoy doing a manual tune to my liking too 🙂

I have max blue light filter and lower than average brightness

[icy orbit]

kinda tempted to buy a pink alu side panel for my made68 ultra
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007647149859.html
along with some darling keycaps https://kbdfans.com/products/gmk-cyl-darling?variant=42792180351115

only issue with this is the fact i already have at least 10 other keycap sets and a side panels

[smoky flame]

[icy orbit]

i would like the mirror pvd one they advertise on here https://www.melgeek.com/products/made68-series-side-panel but.. they dont sell it?

[amber surge]

Copilot and Edge aren't that bad.

[icy orbit]

i dont think anyone said they were

i mean id argue edge is inferior to something like firefox or some other freaky choice but who cares

just use what you like as long as it doesnt just straight up suck. they all do near enough the same thing

[dusky wave]

Agreed.

[smoky flame]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/asus-rog-astral-rtx-5090-cards-now-sit-on-shelves-as-gamers-reject-3719-price guess there will be no problem with availability with prices like this 😮

[icy orbit]

ew who wants an aio 5090

[devout remnant]

Who wants the best 5090 you can buy right now?

I’m sure a lot of people 😄

[icy orbit]

if you wanted the best youd just not buy one that has a Use-By date and youd just deshroud and custom loop one

but yeah im half joking with the ew

its still a 5090

[devout remnant]

People who can afford that don’t care - you plug and play.

[mellow lintel]

not an appropriate comment

[smoky flame]

Ì would buy it but not at that price or with the number of issues the RTX 50 series has had since launch. $3720 is absurd for a gaming GPU. That's a £1720 premium on the FE that costs $1999 (if you can ever get them in stock

[stoic viper]

7 days to die needs rt because it makes the game more beautiful

[icy orbit]

i mean at that price it genuinely just doesnt make sense to buy it over a custom loop

[devout remnant]

No one said the price made sense

[cinder veldt]

Reshade is an option

[devout remnant]

It’s the best 5090 you can buy and if / when it’s at RRP, it will sell

[smoky flame]

anyone ever had a PC with dual AIO (CPU and GPU) before? How was the build experience?

[cinder veldt]

Also doesnt custom water cooling actually take some research to even do? i wouldnt even want a custom loop near my computer much less an then a AIO

[devout remnant]

Yes

CPU & Dual GPU Custom Loop

Motherboard also had cooling

[smoky flame]

I definitely wouldn't ever get a custom loop PC. Maintenance is required and honestly, the chances of a leak from it would scare the hell out of me. I'd be looking at my system every 5 minutes lol

[icy orbit]

not technically what was asked but thats cool. mega freaky to start liquid cooling your mosfets though

what made you do that

[icy orbit]

chances of a leak are basically 0 if you actually properly build it, fwiw

[devout remnant]

I mean, that’s over the top to be worried about but I guess everyone’s different - my PC is fully warranted against leaks / damage anyway.

[icy orbit]

and maintenance isnt as bad as people make it out to be

[devout remnant]

The ability to do it.

[icy orbit]

if youre using colour then its a bit worse but yknow

[tight fjord]

free xbox code: 27TPP-W9XXP-Q7D74-G2V6C-JDW3Z (7 days)

[icy orbit]

lol fair enough

[stoic viper]

It seems like when I played on my RTX 4060 I had DLLS enabled and the picture was better than the test on PC and consoles

[devout remnant]

Absolutely nothing more than you drain it and fill it once a year.

[stoic viper]

I don't know how my brain works

[tight fjord]

free xbox code: 27TPP-W9XXP-Q7D74-G2V6C-JDW3Z (7 days) (i dont need it)

[icy orbit]

yeah its basically nothing

[devout remnant]

Just like an oil change on a car.

[tight fjord]

free xbox code: 27TPP-W9XXP-Q7D74-G2V6C-JDW3Z (7 days, expires in 15th april)

[smoky flame]

yeah, I just wouldn't mess with water and electrical stuff. Closest I came to that is with an AIO back when I built my first gaming PC but now I'm happy just running it off an air cooler

[tight fjord]

free xbox code: 27TPP-W9XXP-Q7D74-G2V6C-JDW3Z (7 days, expires in 15th april)

[stoic viper]

so it seemed to me

[tight fjord]

i got it in a mission btw i dont want it

free xbox code: 27TPP-W9XXP-Q7D74-G2V6C-JDW3Z (7 days, expires in 15th april)

[icy orbit]

not as if liquid is ever necessary for most people

[icy orbit]

yeah we saw the first... 3 times

[stoic viper]

there is no RT there

[tight fjord]

did u redeem it?

[icy orbit]

no

[tight fjord]

alr

[devout remnant]

Performance with AIO / Custom Loop is just too good to leave on the table!

[smoky flame]

true

[icy orbit]

air coolers look awsome anyway

[tight fjord]

wanna know how i got it for free

[smoky flame]

they tend to do a good enough job most of the time

[icy orbit]

you got it in a mission

[tight fjord]

ye

free xbox code: 27TPP-W9XXP-Q7D74-G2V6C-JDW3Z

[cinder veldt]

unless the cpu in my pc is a 14900k im not sure what other CPUs would require a Water Cooler for preformance

[tight fjord]

[devout remnant]

Any can benefit from water cooling

[tight fjord]

free xbox code: 27TPP-W9XXP-Q7D74-G2V6C-JDW3Z (7 days, expires in 15th april)

[devout remnant]

You’re getting lower temps, higher self boosts and lower noise I guess.

[icy orbit]

good enough job as if good air coolers arent top of the board. peerless assassin 140 is great. phantom spirit evo also

[stoic viper]

I love LGBT too

[tight fjord]

guess no one wants the code

last time: free xbox code: 27TPP-W9XXP-Q7D74-G2V6C-JDW3Z (7 days, expires in 15th april)

[icy orbit]

if youre gonna keep spamming it i think people lose interest

[mellow lintel]

no need to keep posting it

[smoky flame]

none really require a water cooler unless you plan to OC it but most of the time I believe overclockers are chasing small gains but hey, if that's their thing then I won't say much more than that. I value system stability over any overclock

[mellow lintel]

we get a ton of free trial codes in here. most of the regulars arent eligible

[icy orbit]

did you stability test your xmp? 🤣

[devout remnant]

You don’t trade stability for OC though.

[cinder veldt]

With new CPUs you'd be better off just relying on PBO 2

[devout remnant]

It’s not like it’s one or other.

My CPU is base 3.6GHz but I’ve ran it 5GHz all cores locked and it’s never once crashed.

[smoky flame]

look at the Intel issues. At one point people were overclocking those blind and it was degrading over time due to the 4096W "unlimited" TDP so in some cases I would say stability can be a trade off

[smoky flame]

I wouldn't even bother with PBO 2, unless you mean the curve optimizer/curve shaper side of the feature?

[icy orbit]

i feel like they shouldnt be considered due to the fact that was a hardware issue that was later fixed with microcode patches

[devout remnant]

Product specific, I will always overclock.

[weak charm]

is that even legit

[icy orbit]

but youre running 4 sticks of corsair!!1!

[devout remnant]

Yes

They’re overclocked too 😄

[mellow lintel]

yes

[tight fjord]

guys the code got redeemed

[icy orbit]

youre supposed to buy a hdv, god awful 8400f and a single stick of h16a!!!!

[weak charm]

RIP lols

[tight fjord]

want a code

[devout remnant]

I mean I do the opposite 😄

[tight fjord]

https://discord.com/quests/1351274557138276435

[weak charm]

OH THAT

[tight fjord]

free code for 7 days

pc users, here is a FREE 7 DAY CODE https://discord.com/quests/1351274557138276435

[icy orbit]

okay

[tight fjord]

yall enjoy i gtg

[cinder veldt]

Personally i use MSIs KomboStrike which is like CO. but with intervals of -10 MV. I stand steady with -20. Which my x3d runs about 8 dregrees cooler

[icy orbit]

which x3d

[devout remnant]

I never go down - only up !

[cinder veldt]

5700x3d

[icy orbit]

ok fair enough

[cinder veldt]

5800x3d is the one thats really senstive to changes in voltage, up or down

[mellow lintel]

as expected lol

[smoky flame]

After all the issues around ASUS and X3D CPUs exploding I'd even be overly cautious using any motherboard brand's performance enhancing features

[mellow lintel]

new peeps only

[devout remnant]

When I get my 9800X3D soon, I will have a 10% OC on it

[icy orbit]

being cautious over an issue when theres always issues is stupid boring 🥱

7800x3ds were just blowing up on launch

[devout remnant]

Life is too short, warranty’s exist for this reason 😄

[cinder veldt]

Asus has been incompetent for the last 12 years in quality control the only thing i have to worry about is MSI never looking at my warrenty

[devout remnant]

I love ASUS though

[icy orbit]

asoos

[devout remnant]

They’re my favourite

[icy orbit]

unfortunate

[smoky flame]

I just don't want to deal with the trouble of warranties and stuff like that. Not in a position to just replace stuff if it gets denied

[devout remnant]

I’ve personally only had minor issue with ASUS

[cinder veldt]

Fair enough. But from everything ive seen from Asus is problems and being very combative on their forums

[tight fjord]

ur not in pc that's why

[mellow lintel]

i only play pc...

[icy orbit]

that is a desktop discord screenshot

[mellow lintel]

lol

[devout remnant]

I buy from a company who would deal with it, so avoiding ASUS.

And it’s a 5 year warranty.

[cinder veldt]

Personally im a Asrock enjoyer.

[smoky flame]

oh, wow. 5 year warranty. Now that is nice

[stoic viper]

They make cheap laptops on purpose that break quickly

[icy orbit]

asrock made hdv

[devout remnant]

What’s hdv

[mellow lintel]

ive had an asus for years. not had anything more than minor issues

[icy orbit]

awesome 1dpc board thats often super cheap and is ridiculously good for ram oc

[mellow lintel]

[stoic viper]

Well, it's not only Asus that does this

[cinder veldt]

Everyone does this

[devout remnant]

ASUS STRIX board or nothing.

[mellow lintel]

most companies have a varity of price points for a reason.

@icy orbit keep it appropriate

[icy orbit]

k

[mellow lintel]

and not rude

[icy orbit]

ok

[icy orbit]

for ram oc?

[devout remnant]

Just for my builds.

[smoky flame]

that used to be my waya of things with motherboard upgrades but next time I want to try something that isn't ASUS as they are on my "do not buy" list. Not many brands on it but I do my best to steer clear of them

[icy orbit]

oh that makes sense then

[devout remnant]

Hardware Unboxed gave the new board a glowing rating.

It also was the fastest and most stable board for DDR5.

Plus it delivered on some of the best VRM and CPU temps.

[icy orbit]

i mean so is basically every single other board for ddr5 if youre not trying to run death voltage 6800 1:1 on a 9800x3d

[stoic viper]

I have Samsung phones and Hyper X in this list

[devout remnant]

Not from their testing.

[smoky flame]

I can't just shove things under a rug and pretend like nothing is happening though. Gamers Nexus and their constant dealings with ASUS showed them up big time and I believe sooner or later we'll be seeing a video or two on how a $2700+ GPU (5090 Astral) managed to explode and take out someone's motherboard too. I've got my popcorn ready for that lol

[devout remnant]

It’s not going to “explode” but hey you can wait for it if you wish 😄

[smoky flame]

it did though

[devout remnant]

Blew up - like took out the entire PC and desk and room?

[icy orbit]

dont think it really makes much sense to wait for a video explaining a minority of instances but yeah itll probably happen

[smoky flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-astral-rtx-5090-catches-fire-after-capacitor-blows

[devout remnant]

Catching fire and blowing up are not the same

[icy orbit]

you should simply buy the HoF and import it for double its worth

[devout remnant]

Ferrari’s catch fire

[stoic viper]

I'm scared of this, it could always be a defect and the warranty won't always help

[stoic viper]

I remember trying to get my money back and they gave it to me, but I saw this guy not being able to get his money back, he had a defective motherboard.

[smoky flame]

ok, my wording is wrong but still. I wouldn't want to be the person spending that kind of money on a GPU only for something like that to happen. Bad enough the 5090 is prone to 12vhpwr connectors melting but this made it even worse and is said to be one of the best models of a 5090 you can buy

[cinder veldt]

and Asus would still go
"yeah this was your fault"

[devout remnant]

That can literally happen to anything you buy

It’s not limited to ASUS GPUs.

You’d have to worry about every single purchase you ever make and something going wrong with that mindset.

From your cereal, to your GPU, to a mobile phone charger, to your toaster …

[stoic viper]

after that I didn't want to buy a PC and its components (in Europe they are cheaper than in Kazakhstan)

[icy orbit]

classic asoos

[smoky flame]

I don't worry about other stuff as most other things don't come close to the cost that some of these PC parts do or have limited availability either

[devout remnant]

Ok Mr Rich over here 😄

[cinder veldt]

I thinks its more of the fact companies like Asus would rather try to keep it under covers and blame everyone else instead of taking accountability
Even companies like Gigabyte do the same thing

[icy orbit]

no. youre supposed to blow up your old gpu and get upgraded for free. did you see that post? think someones 6900xt broke and it got replaced with a 7900xtx

[devout remnant]

Toasters are expensive!

I can’t just buy one everyday 😭

[cinder veldt]

I sometimes forget the 6900xt was a card

[icy orbit]

i mean all companies are flawed there is no best

[smoky flame]

like early on. 9800X3D was to go could have been weeks of waiting. Same with any GPU. I'm happy and less worried when things just work and don't have issues that can quickly get blown out of proportion

[devout remnant]

This happened to me - my 8800 GTX died and I got upgraded to a 295 GTX because they no longer were available.

[icy orbit]

why? its an awesome card. has completely ridiculous transients for "no reason"

[devout remnant]

RMA can have separate stock.

[icy orbit]

if you forget about the 6900xt what about the 6900xtxh

nice snipe

[cinder veldt]

I think its because its a card that gets rarely talked about from the 6000 cards from AMD so i forget it exists.

[devout remnant]

I had one.

[smoky flame]

not sure I feel any mor convinced about ASUS but who knows. Maybe I will give them another chance. They should count themselves lucky though as I don't do that. With me its one chance. You lose that trust or you make me hold a grudge and it would be known pretty fast

[icy orbit]

you poor thing. howd you sleep at night?

[cinder veldt]

not saying its a bad card, i just heard people praise and talk about the 6800xt more

[icy orbit]

just dont give any company any chances cuz they all suck

[pallid coyote]

#rules 😃 1. Be cool, kind, and civil. Treat all members with respect and express your thoughts in a constructive manner.

[mellow lintel]

You've already had one warning from me about this.

keep it polite

[icy orbit]

yeah cuz i was being nasty to him i gotchu

[devout remnant]

Old benchmark, I slept really good!

[icy orbit]

heeeell yeah

mustve been a pretty warm room

[smoky flame]

I loved my 6800 XT

[icy orbit]

i like it when i play fortnite and my 6900xt decides it needs to spike to 600w

[cinder veldt]

i had a card from the 5000, 6000, and 7000 gen so far
honestly i liked the 6000 gen the most

[devout remnant]

Never happened to mine.

Was quiet, cool and efficient

[icy orbit]

lol yeah youve gotta do something silly for it to go that high. but it can

think TPU had it get up to 700w

[smoky flame]

same with the 5000, 6000 and 7000 gens but I think my favourite of the lot has to be the 7900 XTX

[devout remnant]

No way

[icy orbit]

errr i think so but im too lazy to go find the review

[devout remnant]

It was Dual 8 Pin

It can’t get that much power to it.

[icy orbit]

ok ill go find the review

[cinder veldt]

i had a 5500xt, 6600, and right now a 7900GRE
My GRE is really nice but my 6600 put in work

It did things it probably shouldnt been able to do

[devout remnant]

My 1200W Power Supply has never cared about wattage.

[smoky flame]

5700 XT (PowerColor Red Devil), 6800 XT (PowerColor Red Devil) and 7900 XTX (MBA - Made by AMD/Reference model)

[icy orbit]

which model tho

[cinder veldt]

Mine have all been Asrock Gpus

[devout remnant]

Which model of what tho

[icy orbit]

psu

[devout remnant]

Corsair 1200W Platinum

AXi

[icy orbit]

ok https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-taichi/37.html its close enough to 700w. just add 60

[icy orbit]

lol nice

when did you buy that

[cinder veldt]

Besides the 6600 having a questionable sturdy shroud and my 7900 gre slicing my finger open i love them both

[smoky flame]

I thought we weren't to worry about transient power spikes?

[icy orbit]

no not on good psus

[devout remnant]

When I bought my PC

[icy orbit]

its just funny that it goes that high @smoky flame

[icy orbit]

i wonder when that was

[smoky flame]

ahh, yeah. I remember that reivew. Another server I was in was blasting AMD something crazy for about a week about it

[icy orbit]

https://imgur.com/a/9yXMLHZ amd bad nvidia good

[smoky flame]

I disagree but hey

[icy orbit]

yeah. idk if i attached it in the first one

came across some guy the other day who just hated amd it was quite funny

[smoky flame]

lol

I don't understand how people can just buy Nvidia like there is no other option, even when they are getting ripped off something stupid

[icy orbit]

because social media

i mean if youre not someone who cares enough, or just doesnt know how to read, find or understand reviews, youd logically assume amd sucks.
if you look at the steam hw survey, nvidia dominates

[smoky flame]

yeah and that is just wrong on so many levels. Allowing Nvidia to continue this clown show of an artificial GPU shortage while harming the competition - that seems to be doing not too bad for themselves right now all things considering. AMD wanted to prove that they didn't need high end or enthusiast grade cards to gain some market share or be talked about. Yet everyone was saying it was the end for AMD when they announced all of this a while back

[icy orbit]

last i heard TSMC wasnt providing enough to keep up with the market but idk i never actually bothered to fact check it

[normal plover]

Probably his coping mechanism after spending his mortgage on a 5090

[icy orbit]

LOL yeah that would explain it

been using Zero:2 lately and theyre pretty cool. although im not the biggest fan of the cable it comes with. nice tips though. truthear gate should be here tomorrow maybe hopefully, probably not. supposedly the cable is better on them. although theyre both cables, which is sad. waiting for my minos to arrive. specifically the asano version, because theyre freaking awesome.
https://www.tanchjimaudio.com/product/mino-asano-tanch-edition

cables can be kinda cool though. i know the cable i used to use actually weirdly complimented my outfit (at least i thought it did). but yeah, 2025. cable bad. bad.

[restive barn]

Anything newish worth checking out on pc game pass?

[cinder veldt]

I was looking through the settings of GTA Enhanced and noticed a "Sampling" under the upscaling, i set it to "2.5" and it damn near lobotmized my graphics card

[devout remnant]

Not long now 😄

[dusky wave]

What u gonna play first with it?

[devout remnant]

Google Chrome

Then YouTube

Then Discord 🙏✨

[dusky wave]

I meant game wise

[devout remnant]

God of War: Ragnarock

[dusky wave]

Good choice

[tight fjord]

free xbox code: 27TPP-W9XXP-Q7D74-G2V6C-JDW3Z

btw here's other for pc users https://discord.com/quests/1351274557138276435

[devout remnant]

It’s beautiful 🤍

[smoky flame]

[dusky wave]

im thinking of uninstalling COD i have way too many games to spend hours to do any future battle pass

[smoky flame]

You should try to get a picture of the wallpaper on the wall and see if it can blend in with the wall. That would be pretty epic I think

I uninstalled BO6 again earlier this week as all it was doing was frustrating me again. I think I’m better off not playing it 😅

[dusky wave]

and freeing up like over 130 ish gigs off my ssd dont hurt lol

[smoky flame]

Yeah

[dusky wave]

plus i need some for tlou part 2 in a week

[smoky flame]

When is that out again?

[dusky wave]

april 3rd

remind me again its iron galaxy and nixxes this time right?

tlou part 1 port is bad. i still havent beaten it yet

[smoky flame]

Definitely saw Nixxes but idk for sure. Probably just going to watch season 2 when it shows from April 14th for the UK

[smoky flame]

Has that monitor got speakers?

[dusky wave]

nixxes has always did well with their ps pc ports

[smoky flame]

True but I don’t feel starting the game at part 2 would be right plus I think I have enough to play through as it is too

[dusky wave]

so true. i havent even beaten 1 yet. and that game was a bad port

[devout remnant]

That’s really cool idea

Will try it in the dark 😄✨

[devout remnant]

Yes I think so because it’s got Dolby Stickers on it

[amber surge]

hello

[uneven cedar]

Whoopsies I upgraded the GPU in my build again :)

[dusky wave]

not a bad price only issue is driver support in older games tbh

[uneven cedar]

It's been fixed from what I understand

[smoky flame]

that's one step away from Intel's best Alchemist GPU iirc?

[uneven cedar]

Yes

It's the a770 after this

[hoary crest]

Who wanna play something witch discord? I'm a cool guy sometimes

[median juniper]

Would anyone happen to know how to fix a DLC Missing error? I got the Deluxe Upgrade for Atomfall on the 26th. I played just fine that night, the 27th and early on the 28th, but later last night when I tried to play, I couldn't load any of my saves because it said Missing DLC Basic Support Bundle and Enhanced SUpport Bundle not found. Even though they show as being purchased and downloaded. I've tried asking on the Dev discord but no one's responded to it yet.

[uneven cedar]

A sata SSD as a secondary drive should be fine right?

I have an nvme as the os drive. 1tb and the sata will be 512gb

[icy orbit]

sure, as long as it has dram
although nowadays theyre often never worth it because m.2 ssds are usually cheaper or the same price

[blissful carbon]

it can be worth it if you have no NVMe slots left

[faint elbow]

hey guys so i play rainbow six siege, and i want to get some credits from this place called cdkeys. I've made an account and linked them from steam to the xbox app and i want to know if i redeem it on xbox will it work?

[ruby spear]

You would need to launch the game on whichever platform you have purchased the credits on to claim them. Then they will be available on all platforms.

[icy orbit]

probably. except cdkeys is a grey market site and safety isnt a guarantee

i think it also goes against this servers rules, but idk i cant read.

they operate from stolen credit cards and purchasing from them is contributing towards it

[patent hound]

There is no evidence they use stolen credit cards

Probably bought upwards of 100+ games/ codes there and never had an issue

[uneven cedar]

Yeah my mobo only has 1 m.2 slot but 4 sata slots

I'll probably replace the 1tb m.2 on the parts list with a 2tb

[smoky flame]

I haven't bought as many games on CDKeys but only had an issue with one game in the many purchases I have made but it was quickly resolved with a refund. No issues or sense of foul play at work compared to some of the others that I definitely avoid

[exotic jacinth]

Not had any issues with cdkeys either, they are legit

Bought 149 things off them and not a single issue

[stoic viper]

.I want to play old games but Windows 11 doesn't allow me

😭

[icy orbit]

you just need to dump the games yourself

[pallid coyote]

#rules 🚨 ⁠12. Prohibited topics include: game sharing outside your household, hardware disassembly or modification, piracy, emulation, violating Xbox policies or Terms of Service, explicit or NSFW material, leaks, and any questionable or illegal activities. Moderators may apply discretion to other topics as needed.

[icy orbit]

LMFAO legitimate activities are banned but grey markets arent

[stoic viper]

I'm scared to discuss this

[icy orbit]

yeah its a shame you cant talk about playing games you legitimately purchased

[stoic viper]

I'm thinking of buying an Xbox series s to play old games.

[icy orbit]

ew dont do that

cant be that old if its a series s

[stoic viper]

I'll save up a little more than 100 dollars and buy a used one. It's a pity that I'm a student.

[icy orbit]

you do you

[stoic viper]

Why?

[icy orbit]

why are you buying a modern console for old games? how old are they

xbox 360 should be suuuper cheap and should play "old games"

[stoic viper]

I play mostly old games but I have no desire to install Windows 10 because I prefer Windows 11

[icy orbit]

you shouldnt desire to install windows 10 anyway

its end of life and loses security updates soon

[stoic viper]

well not only for old games

but generally on older Xbox 360s it costs a little less than a used Xbox Series s

[stoic viper]

yes, but basically I find it more convenient to work on Windows 11

[icy orbit]

probably because its newer and has the more up to date features

[stoic viper]

well yeah i really like the new screen function it half replaces obs

can remove the working screen

[icy orbit]

nothing can replace my beloved OBS ❤️

[stoic viper]

good quality

[exotic jacinth]

Windows 11 should be the same compatibility with old games as 10. I’ve not noticed any difference

[stoic viper]

I only have a laptop now, and I gave my PC to my brother.Intel graphics does not support obs sad. It seems like the laptop is weak but somewhere on the level of a stem deca but it can't work normally with OBS because of the driver

[stoic viper]

Well, I can run some

I had no problems with Dishonored

runs great at maximum settings in 1080pi

I don't think Intel has problems with game drivers now

as much as I'm a fan of the RTX 4060, the b580 is good

he has no problems with the driver

[stoic viper]

I am such a fan of RTX 4060 that where there is no RTX I thought there is.Because if there is no RTX then RX 7600 will be better

and I didn't want to think that I wasted my money

by the way fsr3 gives more fps than dlls 3

[exotic jacinth]

I thought it still didn’t have great DX9 support with games but I’ve not been following it much

Anything older than DX9 I’m not sure if it would run at all

[stoic viper]

I think they should fix this because they have a portable with intel graphics

it is more powerful than steam deck but inferior to asus and others

If Intel didn't fix this, it's very sad.

I looked and this is a problem with Windows 11

[icy orbit]

no it doesnt but tbh if youre playing dx9 games i dont think you should bother buying a modern gpu

[stoic viper]

I'm thinking of buying a PC or console again

I will probably buy a computer when I don't have enough power from my laptop to draw or if my touchscreen breaks, then I will buy a PC and a graphics monitor for drawing.

Well, I really like to draw

[exotic jacinth]

For me I play a mix of old and new so it would rule out Intel just in that

[tight fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-sukuna-eating-walk-out-gif-4841635636316568620

hello chat

[faint elbow]

it wont let me launch but game bar will

[spark relic]

Bro, I can't log into my Xbox Microsoft account, it keeps saying we were unable to log you into Xbox live

[uneven cedar]

Does dram on an SSD matter if I'm primarily gaming? I keep hearing that basically any nvme will be good for gaming

Went with a more expensive mobo that has 2 m.2 slots and 4 sata slots

[uneven cedar]

Asking this because if it doesn't I'm picking up a WD blue sn580

[cinder veldt]

For gaming it doesn't matter

for downloading games and updating it does

but it can also increase longevity

[icy orbit]

depends what youre doing but for basically everything, no.
DRAM was beneficial / essential on SATA drives because of how it works.
DRAM on NVMe drives doesnt matter because NVMe has HMB, which uses some of your systems RAM

[icy orbit]

do you mean it does matter or it can just benefit

because theres a difference between the 2

[cinder veldt]

benefits

[icy orbit]

unlike SATA drives an NVMe drive having DRAM, for must users, is just bonus QoL that you can brag to your friends about.
SATA drives that lack DRAM can suffer pretty badly and will drop speeds significantly after a bit of use

[cinder veldt]

I was going to mention Satas without DRAM is no bueno

[icy orbit]

sn580 is a pretty good cheap drive. arguably all a gamer needs

beats gen 5 drives in gaming and its sustained speeds are alright

[patent hound]

How would it beat a gen 5?

That makes no sense

[icy orbit]

what makes you think it doesnt make sense

[patent hound]

Because Gen 5 drives are newer

[icy orbit]

sure, but how does that correlate to performance

its not the advertised read/write that matters for games. the random I/O and latency is what matters.
below is a gen 5.0 drive that is rated for up to 14000 MB/s losing to gen 3.0 drives
https://tpucdn.com/review/msi-spatium-m580-frozr-4-tb/images/watch-dogs-legion.png

newer isnt better, unfortunately. 😊

[patent hound]

Okay but that doesn’t mean it beats all gen 5 ssds

Kind of pointless saying something can beat a random gen 5 ssd

[icy orbit]

i never said it did beat all gen 5 drives

[patent hound]

Then it’s a pointless comment

[icy orbit]

no it isnt, because what i said is true.
it beats several gen 5 drives in gaming

[patent hound]

Also, that is 1 game

[icy orbit]

im not going to attach links to every single techpowerup review

[patent hound]

“beats gen 5 ssds in gaming” is a comment that is misleading and often only true for drives that were not developed with gaming in mind/ cheaper brands

[icy orbit]

its not misleading when its quite literally true

regardless. all it means is 'dont judge an ssd based on its pcie generation'

look at reviews and come to conclusions based on hardware configurations, firmware and real world performance 😊

[icy orbit]

if you come to the conclusion that things are better because theyre newer you're probably going to make mistakes
Kingston NV3 is the newer version of the NV2, a notoriously awful SSD with a dozen known hardware configurations.
fortunately, because the NV3 is newer they decided to make it better! this was achieved by still keeping an awful firmware with the ssds frequently failing within a few months, and just reducing the amount of configurations.
its still a gamble, but instead of it being a larger casino, its more of just russian roulette with a 6 chamber

[uneven cedar]

Went with a slightly more expensive mobo that has 2 m.2 slots. Going with a 500gb os drive and leaving the other one empty so I can eventually afford one thats 2tb or above. Adding a 512gb sata SSD for a secondary drive

[icy orbit]

do you already own the sata drive

[uneven cedar]

Nah

[icy orbit]

why are you buying it then

[uneven cedar]

Because I don't want to occupy the other m.2 slot yet?

[icy orbit]

youre probably spending the same amount of money on 2 smaller 500gb drives as you would a single 1tb drive

[icy orbit]

dont then

[uneven cedar]

That's not the point

[icy orbit]

what is the point then

[uneven cedar]

I'm trying to get a high capacity m.2 later

[icy orbit]

thats cool but im not on about your 2nd m.2 slot

[uneven cedar]

Well I was?

You explicitly asked me why I'm buying a sata ssd

[icy orbit]

yeah. i never asked about your 2nd m.2 slot

have you considered not buying a sata ssd

[uneven cedar]

Well i answered your question lol

[uneven cedar]

I'm not doing this right now man it's too early

[icy orbit]

whats confusing

how much are the 2 500GB drives costing you

[uneven cedar]

Like $70 combined

[icy orbit]

a decent single 1tb drive should be about $90. id argue that $20 is worth it to avoid a (likely) crappy sata ssd.

which one are you buying?

[uneven cedar]

I just said I'm trying to get one that's 2tb or above in my second m.2 slot

[icy orbit]

does it have DRAM?

[uneven cedar]

Jesus it's like talking to a brick wall

[icy orbit]

dude stop obsessing over your 2nd m.2 slot

[uneven cedar]

Yeah I'm done with this have fun

[icy orbit]

im on about your 1st slot

youre allowed to buy a 1tb ssd for your first one lol

[icy orbit]

your motherboard has TWO m.2 slots. you plan on buying ONE 500gb m.2 nvme and ONE 500gb sata 2.5 ssd, to keep your 2nd m.2 slot free.
im on about buying ONE 1tb m.2 nvme, to keep your 2nd m.2 slot free and to avoid buying an inferior sata 2.5 ssd.

whats so confusing?

i never suggested filling your 2nd m.2 slot

im just concerned that youre spending nearly the same amount of money as a good 1tb just to end up with 2 bad drives, with one being exceptionally bad

[stoic viper]

anti-cheat takes away 20 frames per second in the game

[dusky wave]

doubt it

[icy orbit]

how are you coming to this conclusion

[stoic viper]

https://youtu.be/t1Np1Z5WPhs?si=Tzf4I8Mnzgn09pxl

I used the wrong term

I am against piracy.

[stoic viper]

ok i was wrong

I believed a Russian YouTuber and she said nonsense

Denuvo is incredibly good, I think it made it so that hackers couldn't make a pirated copy for a year or more.

As a person who strongly condemns piracy, I laugh a lot when a pirate can't play a new game.

[autumn sluice]

Cool. Denuvos been cracked btw. Also piracy is the number 1 method of game preservation.

[latent gate]

It’s been proven multiple times that Denuvo harms performance in resident evil games. Sometimes leading to a doubling of frame rate. I’m not a proponent of game piracy but I am a proponent of Denuvo going bankrupt

https://youtu.be/UXZGCwAJpbM

RE8 had it the worst in recent memory

[icy orbit]

denuvo sucks but its pretty effective at preventing what it aims to prevent

P3R released almost just over a year ago and is yet to be done, although i believe thats because the notable user just doesnt want to do anime games

[exotic jacinth]

Yeah I actually I found RE8 borderline unplayable in some areas until denuvo was removed, the stuttering was awful.

I think the GOG route is the best obviously from consumers point of view. People who will pirate it will do so anyway if you put measures in or not.

In which case for some games the people who pay can get the worse experience

[smoky flame]

Didn’t Denuvo try to claim there was no performance loss with their stuff? Also, speaking of Denuvo. I’m pretty sure I saw it added to Assassin’s Creed Shadows. Don’t think it was present at launch but the first update I’m fairly certain I saw something about Denuvo pop up

[stoic viper]

Somewhere around 9 fps max usually

[karmic root]

Whats denuvo?

I see a lot people say something about it but i dont know what it is

[cinder veldt]

Its an anti piracy software, its the best of its kind in terms of preventing piracy, theres no known person to get through it anymore, but it comes at a cost of performance and forcing games to be online only, Inzoi recently removed it because of backlash because even on recommended hardware the game couldnt run at a stable framerate

Denuvo is a nuisance and drives people to stop playing games with it installed

[autumn sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_bab5wtHY

[autumn sluice]

theres 4 ppl currently able to in the piracy scene

denuvo will always be a performance hit because it is constantly trying to make connections with their server. its just less pronounced as time goes on because we are using better and better cpus in our pc's

[smoky flame]

that's some performance loss 😮

[sinful moon]

i just bought my first pc any advice?

[dusky wave]

xmp ur ram

[cinder veldt]

you cant just say you bought your first pc and not tell us what you got

[zenith blade]

what GPU and cpu u got?

[sinful moon]

lemme check and one of my fans stopped working am i cooked?

[dusky wave]

which fans. case fans or cpu fan?

[sinful moon]

case

i think

ill send a pic

[dusky wave]

u havent said ur pc specs

[sinful moon]

here

its a 4060

16gb ram

[dusky wave]

sounds fine. u do know how to xmp ur ram right?

[sinful moon]

no

[dusky wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-MLhGMtheM&t=77s

steps maybe different on which motherboard u r using

[dusky wave]

if its a case fan check if its fully connected to motherboard. but case fans i wouldnt worry too much on it as long some of them are working. cpu cooler/fan is much more important tbh

[sinful moon]

ok thanks!

[dusky wave]

is it a prebuilt?

[dusky wave]

which game u gonna try first on ur pc

[cinder veldt]

hey, thats pretty cool

[sinful moon]

ive been playing like repo, baldurs gate and other games to test how far the my pc can go

[dusky wave]

a 4060 should play most games at 1080p

[dusky wave]

try cyberpunk

[sinful moon]

cyberpunk is def a game that would be cool on pc

especially after i saw it on my xbox

[dusky wave]

there are a lot of mods for the game

[sinful moon]

yeah thats one of the reasons for my pc was mods

especially for like dayz and surviva lgames

[dusky wave]

reason i upgrade in 2022 or 2023 cause my pc cant run persona 5

[sinful moon]

i always wanted to try persona

i dunno where to start tho

[cinder veldt]

3 Reload

[sinful moon]

isnt that on gamepass?

[dusky wave]

yeah but the other mainline persona games left the service already

[sinful moon]

wdym?

[dusky wave]

persona 4, persona 3 portable and persona 5 left the service already

[sinful moon]

oh

[stoic viper]

this is one of the exceptions and there is basically a 9 or 5 frame difference

[autumn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hangover-phil-wenneck-wow-gif-18676286

[stoic viper]

I'll probably collect all the steamworld games

[zealous copper]

Anyone experiencing weird texture glitches on gamepass??? It seems textures are getting muddy when walking and then you stand still and it’s normal again. So far I noticed it happens when on full screen exclusive

Atomfall and 33 immortals on 4060 gpu not sure if it’s the latest nvidia driver fault or its a gamepass issue

[ruby spear]

It's not a Game Pass issue.

Game Pass has nothing to do with the game data. All it does is give you a license to play the game from the subscription, rather than needing to buy the game outright.

The files of the game will be identical whether you install via Game Pass or from a direct purchase.

[zealous copper]

Only noticing on gamepass games weirdly enough tho you think it’s a driver issue then? Do you also have a 4060?

[icy orbit]

have you purchased the games on another launcher and found that out?

[smoky flame]

have you checked the driver release notes for any known issues with those games? Nvidia drivers seem to be in a pretty poor state right now. Other than that what settings are you playing these games at and what is the rest of your system's specs?

[zealous copper]

No but this issue only seems to be affecting my gamepass games and get fixed in the same exact way so I’m assuming it’s the latest driver issue?? Idk but best way I can describe it is the texture is normal and you start walking. And the texture get fried and muddy while moving then stop while standing it’s weird

[ruby spear]

No, I have a 4090. I've not noticed any issues.

[zealous copper]

I know the last driver has been affecting 40 series cards nothing specific mentions my problem however. But I’m playing both in 1440p atom fall mostly medium. & 33 immortals on high settings

I got a AMD Ryzen 9 7940HX 16 core cpu

4060 lp

64 gigs of ddr5 ram

[smoky flame]

really not sure how there are issues as the system seems pretty capable. Still trying to picture what you mean by textures getting muddy. I wonder if the display on your laptop may have something to do with that rather than the games or hardware

[smoky flame]

I would expect a 4090 to have no issues with games 😄 Drivers on the other hand? Usually I would recommend updating to the latest driver but in a first from me. If using RTX 40 series (or older) it seems the recommended driver is the December 2024 driver. RTX 50 series is the only GPUs I would suggest keeping up to date as Nvidia figure out and fix the issues those GPUs have. Once that is done and Nvidia then fix whatever is going on with the latest drivers that cause issues with older GPUs then I'll go back to recommending to keep the drivers up to date

[zealous copper]

Well you see it’s not a laptop at least not really??? It’s a hybrid if anything lol it’s a Minisforum 790s7

Full desktop gpu SFF pc

But using laptop cpu and ram it’s a weird little pc.

@smoky flame

[smoky flame]

ooh, I see. That definitely fooled me haha 😅

[zealous copper]

I wish I could show you but the camera doesn’t do the problem any justice

I have two PCs a main rig & my bedroom one which is the one giving me problems

My main rig one didn’t have the issues

But my bedroom pc does :/

[patent hound]

Fellow khazan enjoyer I see

[devout remnant]

@smoky flame

Don’t look 🙈

[dusky wave]

Is that a liquid cooled pc i see?

[devout remnant]

Liquid H2O !

[smoky flame]

looks amazing

[dusky wave]

How hard is it to maintain a liquid cooled pc? I only use air cooler

[devout remnant]

It’s so hard, very difficult.

You have to drain it and fill it up once a year.

Takes about 5-10 minutes.

Absolutely crazy.

[dusky wave]

Next pc i probably do an AIO instead of air cooler

[devout remnant]

Those things are even harder to maintain

You have to just dust / wipe down once in a while

Couldn’t be me!

[stoic viper]

beautiful but not my taste

[devout remnant]

I understand

[stoic viper]

do you have a camera?

[patent hound]

It looks nice, but I personally wouldn’t spend extra for it

[devout remnant]

On my phone, yes

[dusky wave]

Is that a garbage can?

[cinder veldt]

You mentioned you wanted a NZXT H5 Flow aswell which a AIO would actually look nice in

[dusky wave]

H6

[cinder veldt]

ah right

[dusky wave]

But its still year or two away

[dusky wave]

Thinking mobo case ram and cpu upgrade to am5 in 2026 or 2027 then gpu and psu upgrade in 2028 or 2029

[cinder veldt]

Id definitely look into one of those Mobo, ram, and cpu combos

[dusky wave]

Yeah. But not now

[icy orbit]

why are you planning upgrades several years in advance

[tight fjord]

is someone here from the uk

[icy orbit]

at least 1 person is, yeah

[ruby spear]

Yep

[odd quest]

Is there any way to make the game bar party overlay less obstructive

And more like the discord vc overlay

[jagged venture]

it's funny, normally this is a good thing, but in pc building terms it's bad cause of the market volatility XD

[blissful carbon]

market volatility is almost worse than nitro glycerin

[smoky flame]

I just upgrade every gen. Though so far tis RTX 50/RX 9000 series generation has been a first for me where I don't upgrade. Feels odd

[blissful carbon]

I can't afford to do that lol

[smoky flame]

by the time I'll be ready to upgrade again I might have a new CPU to consider on top of a new GPU

luckily that CPU should be another slot in upgrade and not one that involves a new motherboard and RAM

[blissful carbon]

9800x3d will have me set for a while

[smoky flame]

same, if I let it but I doubt I will 😅

[blissful carbon]

5700x3d to 9800x3d should be a sizeable jump

9800x3d is my first AM5 CPU

[patent hound]

My cpu never reaches 100% when I play on 4k so no point in me upgrading

[smoky flame]

I went 5600X to 7950X3D to 9800X3D 😄

[blissful carbon]

4k is largely GPU bound territory

with a few exceptions (like vanilla Minecraft)

[smoky flame]

7950X3D was an impulsive purchase I just didn't need and should have waited for the 7800X3D but out of fear that demand on it would be extremely high I instead opted for the 7950X3D

9800X3D was my way of correcting that - even managed to get one of those despite how crazy demand for one of them was early on

[blissful carbon]

AMD releasing the 5700x3d was pretty great. It let me bypass the scalping going on with the 5800x3d

and it was cheap as heck

fastest $200 CPU I ever used

[smoky flame]

nice

[blissful carbon]

so the 9800x3d is a lot less clock speed nerfed compared to 5700x3d... I am likely to see massive gains

[smoky flame]

the design change AMD pulled with the 3D V Cache on the 9800X3D helps with temperatures too

should see performance gains across the board at either 1080p or 1440p but 4K is pretty much all GPU it would seem

[patent hound]

No reason to go intel over amd at this point for gaming

[smoky flame]

if Intel bounce back they could become an option again but right now it is very difficult to recommend anyone goes Intel for gaming, yeah

AMD are ripping them apart when you compare their Zen 5 X3D lineup (9800X3D, 9900X3D and 9950X3D) to Intel's Ultra 7 265K or Ultra 9 285K. Hell, even 14th gen beats Intel's latest CPUs but I think a big part of that is to do with Intel doing away with hyperthreading

[exotic jacinth]

Has to be one of the lowest points for intel atm

They don’t even have apple to fall back on anymore

[icy orbit]

totally depends on the price of things. pretty difficult to make blanket statements like this

cant remember what country it was but saw someone earlier where am5 was just completely unreasonable and a 14600K was ridiculously cheap

still stands in the US and other third world countries though.
14600KF is often a very appealing price, although not always.

it all just comes down to how things are priced

but hey who doesnt like an X3D. even though most people tend to buy them and pair it with a gpu that isnt a 4080 or better

but who am i to tell them what to do with their money

[blissful carbon]

it does not help that they were at a node disadvantage for a while

[icy orbit]

joker, opinions on the supposed millionth persona 4 remake?

[blissful carbon]

If it has not been announced officially, can not talk about it here

[icy orbit]

i mean it was just someone noticing atlus filed a trademark for some persona 4 name or something but 👍

[dusky wave]

u hear about the demon summoner vs undead army remaster?

[blissful carbon]

no but sounds interesting

[dusky wave]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2288350/RAIDOU_Remastered_The_Mystery_of_the_Soulless_Army/

Steam

RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army

Undertake the case of the century in this must-play classic from ATLUS. The studio behind Shin Megami Tensei remasters "Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army" with revamped visuals, QOL updates, new VO, and an overhauled battle system!

Taisho 20, in the Capital—
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Price

$49.99

Release Date

Jun 18, 2025

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its smt devil summoner series as like me joker u r a atlus fan

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I will definitely be buying that

The price is good too

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most games for base is either 60 or 70 not 50 usd

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yeah ik

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its the same price as tlou part 2 pc port

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SMT style artwork goes hard

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atlus did so well in 2024 with metaphor

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plus Reload and Vengeance

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fr

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2024 was absolutely fire for SMT fans

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lets hope 2025 is another big win

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atlus fans not just SMT

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yeah fair

I still consider Persona to be largely SMT even though they removed SMT from its name a while back

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well technically didnt they remove SMT from persona with 4?

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no

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persona is a spinoff of SMT. when did they drop SMT from persona

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Persona 4 Golden is when

or Persona 5 if you want to not count remakes

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Remind me persona is lighter in tone compared to SMT right?

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Yes. SMT is very dark. lol. Tends to be more apocalyptic too.

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Aside from 3 yes.

[zealous copper]

Anyone here use a 4060??

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Any one have the game strinova

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I really don't like monitor wires