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icy orbit
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majority of games arent utilising all your cores

exotic jacinth
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Personally I’d just return it if you are within the window

icy orbit
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why lol

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well depending on the board yeah id probably agree

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but why should he avoid intel?

exotic jacinth
icy orbit
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are you on about the ones that were patched months ago with a bios update?

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the only issue with it is if your cpu is already degraded, in which the update wont reverse that

exotic jacinth
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I still have my doubts if it was actually fixed. A lot of the updates were rushed out and still not long for people to have been testing

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If I’m spending that kind of money I’d want to have no risk

lusty oak
exotic jacinth
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I’d probably get a 12900K to be safe if it’s a similar price to the 13700

exotic jacinth
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Those have no known problems and on the same socket

icy orbit
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ever since 0x129 and 0x12b have released there has been a significant reduction in failure reports and ones that receive OP follow ups are always just "previously degraded" or "not updated"

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there is simply no reason to be saying "avoid intel"

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if you list off specific intel products, such as the newer lga1851 socket (currently all cpus are vulnerable, so no specific SKU naming is necessary) which currently have issues then sure

exotic jacinth
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Well those are reports we know about, now that the new line is out there won’t be much focus on these older CPUs anymore. 12900K is not that different and was never impacted by these issues so that’s what I’d recommend

icy orbit
icy orbit
# exotic jacinth Well those are reports we know about, now that the new line is out there won’t b...

and your recommendation is, simply put, foolish, and is only a recommendation based on your nonsensical reasonings.
theres no reason to be avoiding the better performing & cheaper CPUs because youre afraid youll degrade your cpu by clicking buy.
until there is a reputable source that can verify that the newest microcodes do NOT fix the degradation issues, it is as simple as updating your bios when installing your new cpu.

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better yet - buy a board with flashback ☺️

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its a shame ASRock forgot what flashback was when designing their 700 chipsets

smoky flame
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a system builder I know said there is new issues that exist since the microcode patches released that was said to fix the issues Intel had. So it seems those on Intel 13th or 14th gen can't win either way and as a note, this guy has built over 200 Intel based systems in the past year

exotic jacinth
icy orbit
icy orbit
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if youre buying old stock boards and not updating your bios, yeah. i wouldnt be surprised if your cpu degrades

lusty oak
smoky flame
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if he is online I can ask him to give me the low down on how the Intel 13th and 14th gen microcode is and paste it in chat

lusty oak
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what if I bite the bullet and get that with this

icy orbit
lusty oak
icy orbit
lusty oak
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7800XT

icy orbit
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i imagine 1440p gaming then?

lusty oak
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most likely 1080p for now

icy orbit
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then youre doing the equivalent of putting money in a fire

lusty oak
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until I get a new monitor

exotic jacinth
icy orbit
# lusty oak most likely 1080p for now

youre only seeing these large improvements with a 9800x3d at 1080p with a 4090
with weaker gpus, the difference is going to be smaller.
buying a $500 and a new $160 board doesn't make too much sense when you have the option of using your already-owned LGA1700 motherboard and just buying a $200 13600kf

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that $600+ is going to be better spent on a new GPU, or a new monitor

icy orbit
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and besides, whats being said doesnt make sense

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this guy OWNS the board already! i assume he has a cpu to go along with it, so he can just update the bios with his current cpu before using the new 13th/14th gen CPU

smoky flame
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I messaged the guy I know, hopefully they will get back to me soon and I can paste in full what they say. Half expecting a lengthy rant on it tbh 😄 They've also built systems with the latest Intel CPUs and said the Core Ultra are horrible and that the microcode updates Intel implemented for them done very little in way of improving performance for those CPUs too. Honestly, Intel are just going through a really rough time of things lately

lusty oak
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I don't have the CPU yet, just the one from my current 11 year old PC

icy orbit
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ive already said that LGA1851 has issues, im not denying it

icy orbit
# smoky flame I messaged the guy I know, hopefully they will get back to me soon and I can pas...

i mean, its cool that you have someone who you can contact and builds PCs but i mean to be totally honest, im not entirely interested in what he has to say.
i think his side of things would be interesting to read but i cannot verify any of his claims and i mean, hes clearly not the most reputable (not to say hes a dishonest guy, but more so hes not got a pre existing platform in which i can see his testing methodology and where the claims are coming from and compare them with other sources).

reputable is probably the wrong word.

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i just do not understand the "hate" for intel here right now. if intels got a biggie for their 13th/14th gen, why doesnt AMD? 7800X3D cpus would quite literally just blow up on launch

icy orbit
lusty oak
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Gigabyte Z790 UD AC ATX LGA1700

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my current PC has an MSI mobo

icy orbit
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iirc it has flashback anyway

smoky flame
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AMD eventually fixed that now but yeah, AMD aren't immune to the issues either but since the BIOS update where AMD implemented the fixes for the 7800X3D CPUs there hasn't been any known issues of it since and though there was recently a moment of deja vu with the 9800X3D, that was later debunked as user error by Gamers Nexus.
One of AMD's biggest issues right now is arguably the boot time they have being so slow. Again, the guy I know has built many systems in the past year and beyond and he hates with a passion the time it takes the AMD system to boot after applying the EXPO profile in the BIOS. He's had what should be a typical AMD setup (7800X3D, X670E Gene and 32GB DDR5 6000 MT/s CL30) take over 5 minutes to boot. Meanwhile I'm over here with a 9800X3D (previously 7950X3D), B650E-F and 32GB DDR5 6000 MT/s CL32 and can boot up anywhere between 12-30 seconds lol

icy orbit
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i see no reason not to just update the bios using flashback and then installing a new cpu

lusty oak
icy orbit
icy orbit
smoky flame
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that's what I couldn't understand either tbh but he does know a lot and I generally trust the information he gives. Doesn't mean I agree with him all the time ofc, we've had a few heated clashes but yeah

dusky wave
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what do u guys think on mandatory ray tracing games?

icy orbit
lusty oak
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I'm also probably gonna have two 2TB SSDs

dusky wave
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gen 4 or 5?

smoky flame
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btw, sorry for kind of derailing things Coffee. I didn't mean for things to turn ugly with this 😦

lusty oak
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there's my list

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most everything I already bought

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just need the CPU, PSU and storage

icy orbit
# smoky flame that's what I couldn't understand either tbh but he does know a lot and I genera...

i mean, AM5 actually has Gear 1 so youre probably going to have a somewhat lengthy memory training process if youre on older bios revisions and are enabling XMP/EXPO. if this is what hes on about then thats just a skill issue tbh
if its persistent long (1 minute+) boot times to windows then he needs to troubleshoot something
or would i be correct in assuming hes using 4 sticks because lolprebuiltsmoment

icy orbit
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especially if the user is just gaming

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there are several cases of pcie 3 ssds being better than pcie 5 ssds

dusky wave
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oh

smoky flame
# icy orbit to add on to this - expo/xmp sucks /j 😛😛

oh yeah, for sure. Want to know the funniest thing? My RAM doesn't support EXPO. Was an Intel XMP only kit and to use the profile it seems I have to select DOCP II as DOCP I will apply the profile but also ASUS enhanced timings etc (and I don't want that with their recent track record either)

icy orbit
lusty oak
smoky flame
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shows a log in screen

icy orbit
lusty oak
icy orbit
smoky flame
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should be a link on the pc build you can copy and paste

lusty oak
icy orbit
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could you mark whats owned?

lusty oak
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I just need the CPU, PSU and storage

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got everything else

icy orbit
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storage situation is a bit funny. why 2x2tb 980 pros? for $300 too lol

lusty oak
smoky flame
foggy vigil
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Have people stopped avoiding buying the intel 13th gen CPUs?

icy orbit
lusty oak
icy orbit
foggy vigil
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Already updated my BIOS 3 months ago 🙂 I have a 13900k

icy orbit
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awesome

lusty oak
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Deek Squad alert

lusty oak
foggy vigil
# lusty oak no reason, I am open to alternative suggestions

Samsung produces some pretty high quality SSDs, but for a price obviously. Some may say you can cheap out and get something like Crucial, where you may be more likely to encounter issues / dying M.2 SSDs, but I personally have no evidence to suggest one way or the other. I went with Samsung to "play it safe"

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I suspect there isn't actually a wrong answer

smoky flame
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I like to keep my BIOS version as up to date as possible. Often got asked the whole "why fix what isn't broken?" but its a habit I have had since getting into PC gaming. Only versions of BIOS I avoid is any that are marked as beta. Will gladly wait for that beta status to be dropped before I touch any BIOS update

foggy vigil
icy orbit
# foggy vigil I suspect there isn't actually a wrong answer

of course there is ☺️
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HgRwrH/samsung-990-evo-plus-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-50-x2-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v9s4t0bw pcie 5x2 which in essence is 4x4
not much of a biggie by itself but its priced similar to better performing drives
samsnug also had the whole 990 pro killing itself issues - real shame considering its theoretically the best gen 4 drive available (unless youre a gamer)

i dont have image perms to show my funny NV2 screenshot

exotic jacinth
icy orbit
foggy vigil
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Ermm no, I'm certain the SSD is real - it'd be more of a question of quality

icy orbit
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it should just be a nerfed mp44l

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ill go check though

foggy vigil
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I'll just also point back to "idk how much weight this holds" - it could just mean garbage amazon reviews

smoky flame
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my attention to detail with these BIOS updates is perhaps even a bit obsessive (idk a better wording for it tbh) but I have a resource that even allows me to see test versions (definitely don't recommend trying those) and upcoming AGESA versions. Only thing is I don't think there is an Intel equivalent. If there is I want to find it so I keep up with those BIOS versions too

icy orbit
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i usually just suggest people "ignore" amazon (or product) user reviews

obviously good to note them if theyre saying seller is illegitimate or every single review says the same thing (idk, ssd dies in 1 week)

foggy vigil
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I will glance at them, but they aren't my final decision maker 😄

icy orbit
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especially since amazon product reviews dont hold too much when the product page can just get swapped

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common in those 7800x3d scam listings

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half the reviews will be about some childs soft toy

smoky flame
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an SSD I'd recommend is the WD Black SN850X

icy orbit
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i mean its a good ssd but why that one specifically

exotic jacinth
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Yeah I’d also recommend that one, I have a few of those

smoky flame
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is what I use and does what it needs to as far as I'm concerned and haven't heard anything around issues with it to the same level as Samsung, for example

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Samsung are on my bad books generally

icy orbit
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for a lot of users looking to just game and run windows even lower end QLC drives will do everything they need

exotic jacinth
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I also have a 980 pro which has been fine mostly but was a bit wonky with performance out of the box but firmware update resolved that

foggy vigil
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Kinda goes back to my "no wrong answer" - with basic research, I think it's hard to make a mistake here.

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Most people will end up buying something that is a safer bet for extra money, when they may not need it

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(Samsung, WD)

foggy vigil
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(And most people will buy something based on reputation of the brand / company 😄 )

icy orbit
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if the buyer is just running windows and gaming then theoretically any m.2 nvme ssd will be just fine for them but theres caveats with just buying willynilly
some ssds use hardware thats prone to early death and some like to drop to sub hdd.
then obviously theres the whole issue of picking the best ssd for you. no point in buying a 1tb 990 pro for $100 if idk a $50 mp44l will be more than enough for you. hand in hand with picking a bad ssd at the same price or more expensive than better ssds

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😛😛

smoky flame
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interested in seeing my whole PC build? lisquie

icy orbit
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also ssds like NV2 exist where its just a complete gamble on hardware

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theres several known configs for the nv2

icy orbit
icy orbit
# icy orbit ill go check though

TPU database shows both an IG5220 and RTS5772DL + Hynix 128L variant
the most recent being RTS5772DL
perfectly fine for a gamer

smoky flame
foggy vigil
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no point in buying a 1tb 990 pro for $100 if idk a $50 mp44l will be more than enough for you. hand in hand with picking a bad ssd at the same price or more expensive than better ssds

My point is those aren't wrong choices. They might not be the best choices, or even bad choices, but "wrong" isn't jiving with me

icy orbit
icy orbit
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decent binned hynix ram

smoky flame
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A-Die RAM

foggy vigil
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"If you haven't already, have you considered overclocking your RAM?"

icy orbit
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☺️

foggy vigil
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(You clearly know things lisquie, but how you deliver your knowledge is equally important 🙂 )

lusty oak
smoky flame
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did dabble a little into some tuning but afaik 6000 MT/s is Ryzen's sweet spot, according to AMD. Overclocking it, if you mean by increasing the frequency further runs the risk of stability issues or dropping the infinity fabric link from 1:1:AUTO to 2:1:AUTO and losing performance while also increasing latency

icy orbit
icy orbit
# smoky flame did dabble a little into some tuning but afaik 6000 MT/s is Ryzen's sweet spot, ...

overclocking your ram by changing the dram frequency and nothing else is never a good idea.
i dont believe i have image perms (not like itd help considering my windows/zen timings is japanese) but if youre overclocking properly you can get 6400 or even 6600 running 1:1
XMP will default to 1:2 above 6000 on am5 which is why its advised to stick with the "sweet spot" - most arent gonna OC and therefore any 6000 CL30-38 is gonna be identical

icy orbit
# lusty oak is the one on my list ok?

the rm850e? quite overpriced, especially for its poor fan. although its a pretty good psu and is often put relatively high up by reviewers like HWBusters and TPU. i wouldnt get one at that price though, could get better

smoky flame
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oops, might have made a mistake with one of the images

icy orbit
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no reason for trefi to be so low but its whatever

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youd probably be better off with trying to get 6400 1:1

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6600 on your 9800x3d might be possible but considering its x3d you might have to run death voltages

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i assume you stability tested right?

smoky flame
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to a point, yeah. I'm far too impatient to give it the full stability test run of 24 hours but when i was using the additional tuned changes I played a few games and noticed no issues regarding stability and I like to crank games up to maxed settings so I'm sure that memory is getting a workout - just like the rest of my PC 😄

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death voltages is also something I don't fancy touching lol

icy orbit
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death voltages is grim

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how long did you test for?

smoky flame
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found a better picture of the adjustments I made. Adjustments in orange was what my friend recommended I change

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about 10 minutes I think it was? then dove right into gaming 😄

icy orbit
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you would likely see better gains with 6200 or 6400 1:1

icy orbit
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you should probably run VT3 for a few hours at some point

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ram OC id never recommend testing for less than 1 hour

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some people do just jump back in but yikes

smoky flame
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was tempted to try CL 26 but stopped at 28

icy orbit
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oh yeah, thats an 8. lol

smoky flame
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I'm back on the non tuned side (cl32) btw. Honestly not sure what to think about trying 6200 or 6400 though

icy orbit
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if youre ever feeling up to it, you should run some benchmarks on your current old oc ram config, then reset back to default xmp and benchmark again
bonus points if you try enabling xmp and changing dram frequency to 6400, mclk to 3200 and VDD/Q to 1.4 + running a benchmark for this

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its pretty quick to tell if 6400 is worthwhile

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set to 6400 1:1 and change voltages, set tCL to 30 or 36 or whatever, then run VT3 for an hour. if it fails - either spend several hours to get it to pass or just dont bother

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not sure if i mentioned already but i managed to get 6600 on my 7800x3d for a while back with some pretty tight timings
didnt run it for long though before just going to 6400 with lower voltages

smoky flame
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heh, I'd rather not spend the several hours tbh. Just want to game tbh and at one point, back when AMD had issues with the 7800X3D I had my 7950X3D running with 5200 MT/s cl40 (effectively the max supported, non OC/JEDEC profile RAM) for a while. Also tried 5600 MT/s with the 9800X3D too (seeing as AMD specs showed that being Zen 5's top RAM speed before OC is taken into account)

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sorry if I'm a bit on the awkward side with some of this btw 😅

icy orbit
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7950x3d on jedec? why? 2 ccd = 2 IF links = double max bandwidth

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if anything, you should have played around with ram on the 7950x3d

smoky flame
icy orbit
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i mean obviously at the end of the day its your system and you do as you wish but id personally be doing the complete opposite ☺️

icy orbit
smoky flame
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the jedec thing was only until I had heard it was safe to use the XMP/DOCP stuff again as I had bought the 7950X3D very early on and that time really scared me. I was close to returning it

icy orbit
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6200 on modern bios revisions i would probably consider guaranteed tbh

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assuming hynix

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all 1:1, 1:2 isnt worthwhile at all on a 7800x3d

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7800x3d isnt capable of getting high enough to be worthwhile without some silly stuff going on

dusky wave
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question i never oc my cpu other than set my ram speed is that bad?

icy orbit
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no

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if youre 99% of people/gamers just enable xmp/expo and youre more than good

smoky flame
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also, I dropped from two CCDs with the 7950X3D to the one on the 9800X3D so to avoid the scheduling shenanigans the dual CCD X3D CPUs introduced. While it worked there was often a small performance penalty (vs the single CCD X3D CPUs that don't require any of the scheduling shenanigans). I originally viewed the 7950X3D purchase as an impulsive buy (known to do that often, like upgrading too frequently)

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Personally I wouldn't really recommend overclocking the CPU these days. AMD tend to squeeze most of the performance you will get out of the box. What you end up chasing after that is usually so minuscule and likely requires more effort than worth

icy orbit
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for the most part yeah most of the time any worthwhile OC is going to come from the parts that take 10s of hours to OC (such as ram)

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although its still nice to do a quick UV + OC on a gpu

smoky flame
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one change I can think of off the top of my head that people go chasing is performance gains via curve optimizer. Ideally you want to spend the time tuning per core rather than all cores but go too far either way and you run into stability issues and the occasional dreaded BSOD (ask me how I know xD)

icy orbit
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i wonder how you know

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feel like its worth saying that XOC will never stop being cool though

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im in buildzoids server + know a ton of XOCs and its so awesome

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i personally could never do it im too busy playing games but i wish i wasnt

smoky flame
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gave curve optimizer a try back when I had a 5600X and thought I could go negative 30 all cores and forget it. Nope. Appeared stable and then crashed in games, once even displaying a BSOD too. Did try to tune curve optimizer better but eventually gave up with and since haven't touched it. AMD's Ryzen CPUs are so efficient it is scary

icy orbit
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id argue even pbo isnt worth it anymore, at least not on a 78/9800x3d

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7800x3ds low power draw is completely ruined with it

smoky flame
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trying curve optimizer with per core when I had the 7950X3D would have been so time consuming. So glad I didn't jump down that rabbit hole at any time while I owned that CPU 😄

icy orbit
# smoky flame gave curve optimizer a try back when I had a 5600X and thought I could go negati...

what i love about the final sentence "amds ryzen cpus are so efficient it is scary" is that while for the most part its true (lets just assume 7800x3d) people will still get terrified because their cpu isnt below freezing on idle.
i see it a lot, people concerned over 40-60 idle and then 70-89 on load.
theyre designed this way and intentionally try to keep themselves at max operating temps! i see people trying to ask if they should upgrade their cooler because their 7600x is at 90-95°C while gaming.. no! ☺️

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and the 7800x3ds behaviour with how it is completely sporadic with its boosts and temps. scares a lot of people running stock fan curves

icy orbit
smoky flame
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oh yeah, I've seen a lot of posts on that and honestly, people really need to not worry so much. AMD's boost algorithms are at work and shouldn't push beyond their means. Whether on a stock cooler, 3rd party air cooler, AIO cooler or custom loop I'm pretty sure that 7800X3D is reaching 89C if it wants to, same with those non X3D CPUs with 95C temperature limits. You simply afford it more headroom the better the cooling situation. Though while gaming none of the CPUs will use their full power or reach 89-95C. I rarely saw my 5600X, 7950X3D or 9800X3D pass 70C and that was with the same cooler

icy orbit
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7800x3d is very funny. it will stay at 89°C or below on even the worst coolers. i know a guy who spent a bit on a ton of crappy coolers and not once did it throttle

smoky flame
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that was a purchase with little to no thought attached to it. Bought a 7900 XTX MBA back when it launched (December 13th 2022) and after receiving and installing it got around to playing some games and noticed some games were crashing but not a normal crash - it was tripping my old power supply so I decided a couple days later to buy a new power supply and that was what I picked out. Was very much rushed as otherwise I could have been without a properly functioning PC at the time over Christmas lol

icy orbit
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fair enough

smoky flame
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fortunately had zero issues since so it all worked out in the end. Though I'm well aware I would have saved a lot of money had I spent a bit longer looking around

icy orbit
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yeah, i was going to follow up with that. its a pretty decent psu. afaik its never been relevant due to its price, but its still good

smoky flame
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I gotta think about winding down for the night. Just noticed the time (1:15am). This chat was definitely a lot of fun, crazy how fast time flies by when having fun, whether that be in a game or a good chat 😦 though I still feel bad if I put you off the Intel CPU purchase if you are still about, Coffee

icy orbit
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absolutely, time just goes by. i myself often lose a lot of nights to talking tech.

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glad you thought it was good, i got concerned over my tone at certain points

smoky flame
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haha, same! Just glad we didn't do this over on general chat or I'm sure we'd have been told off multiple times by now hehe

icy orbit
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lel absolutely. i remember not too long ago sticking about in general chat. eventually however they ~~kindly relocated ~~ confined me to here, which is fine. all i really do is talk about hardware, not like i need the other channels.

smoky flame
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no worries about the tone. Kind of difficult imo to understand one's tone over text. Sometimes I worry that I come across as being some know it all when i randomly spew specs talk etc in general chat and definitly don't want it to be perceived that way. I may know a lot but still learning really - and thoroughly enjoying learning more each day!

icy orbit
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absolutely tone is so difficult on text. nice that youre enjoying learning more ☺️

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anyway, im gonna head off myself seeing as youre going. 💜

kindred stratus
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yo does anyone know any games that are crossplay story type games that support steam and xbox

hybrid shard
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Is rust playable on xbox app

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On pc

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With ultimite

vocal wolf
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yo i need help, sea of thieves have been downloaded for alot of time when i came back to it it required a 5.9gb update when it was done i tried opening the game it started a 110gb update(the game's size is 113) does any1 know what to do to stop that? i have the game already downloaded in my country we have limited internet (400gb/m in my case) so that's really a problem

smoky flame
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just a heads up, anyone on an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D and an 800 series motherboard (at this time idk if it is also affecting 600 series motherboards or CPUs too) might want to avoid updating to the latest BIOS version that includes AGESA 1.2.0.3a Patch A as for some unknown reason it appears to be killing the CPUs or bricking the motherboards that have this update installed on them.
Going to post a couple of links related to this
https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/amd-800-series/strix-x870e-e-error-code-00-after-bios-update/td-p/1072723
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1i7w60n/another_9800x3d_dead_nova_x870e/

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lusty oak
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I ended up going with the i7-13700K and that SSD lisquie recommended

dusky wave
icy torrent
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Is shadow of war middle earth good?

ruby spear
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Shadow of Mordor, the first game, is better.

twilit umbra
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is dlss not working properly in india jones? i turned on dlss frame gen and my fps just dipped like crazy

simple scroll
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hello i need help for a pc that i need a perfect gpu for a ryzen 5 8600G with no bottleneck

amber surge
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It would be cool if there It would be cool if there was an Windows 10 that was like Windows 7.... here's how it should be made

Things that are from Windows 7 that are added:

  1. Purble Place
  2. The IE from Windows 7
  3. Aero & transparent things
  4. Windows 7 wallpaper

Things that that are from Windows 10 that will be removed

  1. The IE from Windows 10
  2. Microsoft Edge

Thongs oops i meant Things that are not from Windows but will be added

  1. Mozilla Firefox
  2. Shortcuts to online games (not all the MSN online games, just the ones that are made by Microsoft) ((also the shortcuts are not on the desktop))
lusty summit
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MSN Messenger

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One can forever hope

ruby spear
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What kind of code?

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I know that, but for what?

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No

obsidian bobcatBOT
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#rules 💵 13. Do not attempt to buy, sell, or trade items or codes in this server or via DM with server members. Do not ask for handouts, free codes, or other freebies either. If a user has a spare code they wish to give away for free, they may do so.

icy orbit
wide trout
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uhh i need some help my xbox gamebar on pc windows 11 is greyed out and no captures options in settings

gray berry
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Rise of the Ronin coming to Steam March 11th

dusky wave
gray berry
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think so, I dont know much about it tbh, just saw Koei Tecmo post it on youtube, the release trailer

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think they had their earnings report today

patent hound
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I hope stellar blade gets a release date soon

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Supposed to be this year

steep thistle
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is there anyway to play PC games on X|S w out paying/waiting for GeForce ? lmk pls

ruby spear
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Doesn't it have a free tier or trial?

steep thistle
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what do you mean

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geforce?

ruby spear
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Yes

steep thistle
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it does & i have it but the free tier makes you watch ADs to stay in queue & then puts you behind 50+ players waiting on the same rig

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and you only get a full hour of playtime daily so 20 mins of my 1 hour is spent waiting on my rig

ruby spear
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Well, yeah. If you're not going to pay with money you'll pay with your time, effort or data.

steep thistle
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i know thats why i wanted to know if theres an alternative to geforce on X|S

ruby spear
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Not for free, no

steep thistle
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what about that you pay

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any alternatives to geforce that require payment

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like steam, is steam usable on X|S

mellow lintel
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no

dusky wave
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U could always try ultimate for cloud gaming

ruby spear
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Amazon Luna

dusky wave
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Forgot about that ubisoft had something similar right?

steep thistle
ruby spear
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Ultimate is console streaming though, not PC

steep thistle
ruby spear
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No, it’s console games

ruby spear
dusky wave
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Oh

proper hare
ruby spear
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They're asking for alternatives to GeForce Now.

proper hare
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Well of course geforce now free tier is gonna be bad and there is no better cloud streaming option for pc unfortunately

ruby spear
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dusky wave
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I thought pc modding was a thing in the game?

ruby spear
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This is official support.

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Providing official modding tools.

dusky wave
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Oh

smoky flame
#

I might yet try to get my hands on a 5090 FE. Though it won't be at launch

dusky wave
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i thought u r trying to stay away from upgrading for a bit

smoky flame
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was but the temptation is getting me thinking about it haha

tulip spear
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hi

compact fern
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icy orbit
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that means no security updates or anything

fair wadi
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I cannot get my xbox controller to work with my windows 11 machine. It worked for a while then stopped. So I got one of those xbox wireless usb sticks and it worked until today. I think the stick might be fried. How can I get my controller to work with windows 11 like it was before?

proper hare
foggy wing
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Hi i am thinking of downloading Indiana Jones for my new gaming laptop its RTX 4050 and since i am very new to PC/laptop gaming i am wondering if i should download the Higher Resolution Textures which is an extra 40 GB, should i?

ruby spear
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If you want it to look better, sure.

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smoky flame
smoky flame
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might still consider the 5080 instead. 5090 is far too much and the power requirements would likely mean getting another power supply, which I'd rather not do lol. Decisions, decisions...

dusky wave
smoky flame
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nah, passing on both on them. Not that impressed with the gains vs a 7900 XTX. First time I'll be skipping new GPUs from both AMD and Nvidia

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this will just make me all the more eager to make a return to having an Nvidia GPU though as I really don't know what is going on at AMD. 9070 series has become a bit messy. Though one thing I don't expect is for it to match or beat a 7900 XTX, hence the skipping of AMD's upcoming GPUs

smoky flame
#

yayshark finally some news on Spider-Man 2! Was beginning to worry we were about to hear that it was being delayed

dusky wave
ruby spear
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Damn, I think this is the first game I've seen which requires a 4090.

pale spoke
dusky wave
dusky wave
ruby spear
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Was what those cards?

dusky wave
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im just asking were the other pc specs say 4080 or 4080 ti for max settings i just dont remember pc specs for every game lol

ruby spear
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4080 is the highest I've seen before now.

dusky wave
ruby spear
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Nice that they're adding things, but I just want separate trophy lists.

exotic jacinth
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Optional sign in was what a lot of people were wanting so that’s good they are changing that

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Assume they will be able to sell in more regions again now as well

exotic jacinth
# dusky wave

Looks like it favours Nvidia but will be interesting to see the benchmarks

dusky wave
dusky wave
exotic jacinth
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Not sure, probably will be added in a second wave maybe

lucid marlin
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does anyone want a code game pass 1 month? (if yes come and deprive)

wicked tiger
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Feel free to just post it here

patent hound
smoky flame
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I suppose the 4090 is only being recommended for the "ultimate ray tracing" mode as it is (as of right now at least) the most powerful GPU available with ray tracing. Though in about 14-15 hours from this post Nvidia will have "launched" their 5080 and 5090 GPUs and the 5090 will be the most powerful GPU for ray tracing

wild kelp
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Hey, does anyone have any advice on how I can talk to my friends through the Xbox Party chat on PC? Every time I invite/join a party it shows my friends disconnected and me connecting.

blazing cedar
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my laptop is intel core i5 1st generation.Can it connect with the xbox console?

blazing cedar
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yes

dusky wave
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i dont see why not? the pc/laptop specs dont matter for remote gaming only ur internet connection

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just as long u could install the xbox app on it

icy orbit
# dusky wave

these ray tracing gpu recommendations dont make sense
are any benchmarks available for this game?

dusky wave
foggy wing
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Hi just got a game through the Xbox website but it's not showing up in my xbox app, how do i fix this?

smoky flame
dusty vector
foggy wing
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hmm it was a free game thing im not sure

iron spindle
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i would check what you brought. You likley brought a xbox console game or the console version

dusky wave
smoky flame
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yeah, so far so good seems to run really good. Nixxes keep on doing such a good job with these PlayStation ports rooPog1

foggy wing
dusty vector
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Not all products are available on both PC or console. Additionally, only Xbox Play Anywhere games are cross-buy.

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The store page you claimed the game from should tell you if the product is for PC, console, or both

foggy wing
mellow lintel
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No talking about those here.

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lusty oak
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PC is getting put together tomorrow

patent hound
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Nice, what specs

lusty oak
patent hound
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Looking good

plucky marsh
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Looks good! What are you going to play on it first? 👀

lusty oak
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modded skyrim! 😆

simple scroll
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yo pc is going out in 1 week

obsidian bobcatBOT
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@rigid pecan, has been muted for spamming.

patent hound
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Wym?

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noble tapir
#

does anyone know how to get party invites to work on the xbox app on pc? I've basically done everything that comes up on all the windows support forums and nothing has worked. i get party invites on the app on my phone but not on my pc. I get messages but not invites. kinda funny how much this issue comes up and all the windows support says is hey did you uninstall it and reinstall it?

proper hare
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Windows + G

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social

shut imp
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0x89235107 what the solution for game pass pc

iron spindle
shut imp
iron spindle
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then contact support

shut imp
brisk willow
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anyone know how to throttle download speeds in the pc app

icy torrent
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I need game recommendations

raven hull
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Marvel Rivals is still going hot

silent veldt
raven hull
compact fern
pine bear
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Hey

keen juniper
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@main ether

main ether
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what

keen juniper
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Hi

smoky flame
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upscaled and with frame generation enabled? This is getting out of hand. Anyone remember when we didn't need either upscaling or frame generation to achieve 60+ FPS in games? Ever since Nvidia announced their RTX GPUs I feel things have gone downhill from there. I don't mind upscaling too much, its more the frame generation feature that allows up to 4x the fake frames to be rendered. That 200 FPS or whatever might look nice on some performance monitoring OSD but it certainly won't feel like 200 FPS

pale spoke
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Based off what I have seen from the benchmark which is out it runs pretty good actually

smoky flame
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might check it out but recommending players use both upscaling and frame generation just to reach 60 FPS at selected presets doesn't look great and monster hunter being the kind of game it is that demands players have quick responses, it all sort of counters that in some sense since frame generation will add so much latency. Of course there are ways to combat it but not enabling it from the start would be the most optimal from a responsiveness side

open raft
pale spoke
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Pretty much all modern games require SSDs now

open raft
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And they shouldn't because it creates ewaste and elitism.

smoky flame
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tbh the CPU specs sound about what you'd expect today and the GPU requirements are a bit on the lower side compared to some games and their PC requirements. SSD being required is due to DirectStorage and without it games will take some time to load up. Good thing is it doesn't have to be the fastest SSDs as I believe even SATA SSD are supported by DirectStorage and the cost of those or the faster still M.2 SSDs isn't really that bad until you look at the latest in M.2 speeds, that being gen 5 so I certainly don't think there is any elitism at play. e-waste on the other hand? I'm sure those HDD can find uses elsewhere

dusky wave
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Like for movies and tv shows going forward ssds will be a requirement

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I know several people who are lagging in spiderman 2 cause they play it on a hdd not ssd lol

open raft
# smoky flame tbh the CPU specs sound about what you'd expect today and the GPU requirements a...

I'm not convinced that requiring 6GB+ of VRAM and an SSD minimum is a good thing for games. You can have DirectStorage while supporting harddrives like in Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart. SSDs should be reserved for Windows. SSDs for games needs to remain optional instead of being mandatory. I think minimum specs should list 8 core CPUs instead of 6GB GPUs going forward. Especially for higher frame rates.

smoky flame
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all of that seems pretty normal now unfortunately and with how consoles have switched to SSDs I think is why devs list an SSD as being recommended since they know it will load fast, like on console but use a HDD and it won't be optimal. 6 core CPUs are still plenty for minimum spec

open raft
smoky flame
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I just mean it will be enough to get things working. Optimally I would go 8 cores but 6 cores should be a minimum today seeing as that is a configuration both AMD and Intel offer

open raft
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And how are 6GB GPUs "not too crazy" to get someone in the door? Why not 2 or 4?

smoky flame
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it just doesn't seem that crazy now. There are games that push 8GB+ on the minimum now that is a little crazy to me but is just a sign of the times as the VRAM on GPUs increases as will it do so on the requirements. Same goes for RAM. 16GB should be considered the minimum for most games now with the recommended being 32GB

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open raft
warm steppe
#

Ok what's better on pc, xbox game bar or xbox app?
There pc shtuff is pretty confusing..

radiant jewel
#

Can anyone help me with my Xbox Kinetic V1 when I can't get the picture to appear on my PC?

icy orbit
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a 10400 being a minimum from 720p upscale 1080p 30fps shouldnt be shocking imo

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i mean sure the games cooked but its still an old cpu

icy orbit
icy orbit
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just realised its the same person i replied to 3 times. i dont mean to go after you or anything lol

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i mean you have to remember that what you want isnt what everyone wants or what matters. it makes sense that newer games are going to try to push the latest and best hardware because theyll see more improvements with that, and a lot of users dont want to play at 720p 30fps but rather 1440p or 4K

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even competitive players are willing to spend $500 on just cpus and several hundred on gpus just for 1080p

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anyway i dont see how ssds can lead to elitism. theyre incredibly cheap to buy and are easily the biggest upgrade one can make (moving fron a HDD to an SSD, that is)

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they get even cheaper when your goal is just to game and not anything that requires an actually good ssd

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theres many cases of gen 3 ssds being better than gen 5 ssds for gaming

exotic jacinth
icy orbit
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that i can agree with

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although its not like theres much to hate with NoVideos DLSS

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looks better than native sometimes

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id have to find the page but i believe it was gamers nexus that said that

smoky flame
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I always felt features like upscaling and frame generation would always be optional but it seems more and more games are pushing boundaries to the point they need upscaling to be active in some way for reasonable performance but idk what use frame generation has other than to show off to friends or the world "oh look, 100 FPS isn't this amazing?" when in reality that is either 50 FPS without frame generation active at 2x or 25 FPS at 4x

open raft
icy orbit
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thats not due to the VRAM but rather the fact halo infinite isnt a hard game to run

open raft
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What I care about is making sure those with significantly weaker hardware than mine can play the latest titles.

icy orbit
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im interested. how do you intend on making that happen?

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at a certain point you have to face reality and accept certain hardware is simply outdated

open raft
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Outdated hardware should not equal e-waste. I have an idea for a game engine that can do just that. Compressing VRAM needs to be a priority for devs. To scale from ancient hardware to future counterparts would be very helpful.

icy orbit
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VRAM isnt the only thing you should be accounting for though

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there are tons of GPUs that have a lot more VRAM than they can actually utilise in gaming loads because theyre simply too slow

half spindle
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hello guys

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is there a mod that can censor swearing in Halo Infinite Campaign?

open raft
icy orbit
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outdated hardware isnt necessarily e waste but you shouldnt really be expecting the newest titles to be catering towards 10+ year old hardware.

icy orbit
half spindle
icy orbit
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i mean sure a lot of new AAA titles are eating up VRAM but that doesnt totally mean theyre targetting that. may just be a consequence of poor optimisation, or players using Ultra preset textures.

open raft
icy orbit
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B580 actually very often utilises its 12GB of VRAM

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im on about other examples such as the 16GB RX 7600 XT or the 16GB 4060 Ti

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the 4060 Ti having a lot of VRAM is very often irrelevant in games, but is actually useful for something like stable diffusion

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the 7600 XT just has a lot of VRAM for bandwidth reasons, not to make games go brr

open raft
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What I'm saying is that anything more than 2-8GB is overkill for 1080p or 720p. Especially for older and indie titles in most cases. I'm not seeing how the 16GB variant of the 4060 Ti cannot handle let's say Horizon: Forbidden West on the highest settings. It's got the VRAM for it. Maybe just not enough CUDA cores?

icy orbit
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2GB being overkill for 1080p is ludicrous and we are actually starting to see games lean towards 12GB, even without playing at Ultra across the board.

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i dont think its reasonable for me to comment on 720p gaming in 2025

icy orbit
exotic jacinth
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Last 2GB card I had was over 10 years ago now

dusky wave
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U cant expect ac shadows to run on a 2gb card

open raft
icy orbit
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the 4060 Ti is a relatively slow GPU, performing nearly identical to the 3070 or the 2080 Ti at 1080p

exotic jacinth
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I remember 2GB was already having issues in 2014 games let alone anything newer

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Shadow of Mordor and doom 2016 looks terrible at 1080p on 2GB

dusky wave
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Do people even play games in 720p in 2025

open raft
icy orbit
# dusky wave Do people even play games in 720p in 2025

majority of people dont consider it a gaming resolution in 2025 and in a lot of professional reviews 720p is actually referred to as a synthetic benchmark despite it being a real game load, simply due to the fact that theyre only testing it to push the CPU and RAM without having to have a GPU in the way

open raft
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I have played at 1080p on desktop. I just don't like sacrificing high framerate for better visual quality. I think of 60 or so FPS as feeling more realistic overall.

icy orbit
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its cool that you dont like to give up the high frame rates for the sake of visual quality but that is not what is globally accepted and countless people would rather play at 1440p or 4K

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especially if theyre spending a lot of money on a faster GPU, such as a 4080 or a 7800XT

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i myself play at 1440p (only because the 4K OLED i wanted wasnt in stock) on my 4080 S

open raft
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Why has anybody abandoned 720p en masse? I think it's as decent as 1080p. Especially for TVs on console.

icy orbit
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i dont mean to be rude but i cannot tell if youre just trying to bait or if youre serious

open raft
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I'm serious. No bait.

icy orbit
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its 2025. good 720p monitors dont exist anymore and even the cheapest used GPUs are more than capable of running 1080p

dusky wave
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No one i know plays at 720

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Most either play at 1080p to 4k

icy orbit
icy orbit
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i would argue that 1440p is moving towards the new standard tbh

dusky wave
icy orbit
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ah yes. read that as "or"

exotic jacinth
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Last time I had a 720p display was around 2007 I think

dusky wave
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I dont even own a 720p monitor in years probably 10 years

icy orbit
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thats probably because theyre basically e waste at this point

exotic jacinth
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None of mine even work anymore they just died of old age lol

icy orbit
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although i still own (and use!) a 1080i50hz TV because why not

open raft
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When I see an 8GB GPU as minimum, I usually assume that the game has not been optimized enough. As well as lack of VRAM efficiency.

icy orbit
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you cant be looking at the GPU by its VRAM capacity

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thats your fatal mistake here

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you cannot break down a GPUs performance just by looking at its VRAM capacity

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there are a lot of cards that have 8GB! you could be talking about a 3070, a 4060 Ti, a 6600, an A750..

exotic jacinth
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Ive got an older TV here for some old consoles and equipment. Nice having component and VGA etc for the old stuff

dusky wave
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Or if the game has forced rt

open raft
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Forced raytracing needs to stop. That's a sign of a lack of VRAM efficiency.

icy orbit
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is it though?

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it.. really isnt

exotic jacinth
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I had a 3070 before and felt like I didn’t get the most out of it with 8GB for sure. Always either had to turn down textures or resolution and RT.

icy orbit
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forced ray tracing doesnt even affect most people considering you can go all the way back to Maxwell and still run ray traced games

icy orbit
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theyre still great performers though

exotic jacinth
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Yeah I got the 3080ti on a sale a couple years ago and sold off the 3070 this was before 40 series was out so was worth the 200 or so cost.

open raft
icy orbit
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great performers at what?

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not a single one of those GPUs is even included in modern benchmarks from TPU or GN or any of the sorts

dusky wave
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Only reason i went with 6800xt over 3080 cause my 6800xt was like 500 cheaper than the 3080 let alone ti version in 2022

icy orbit
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if an RX 580 still works just fine for you then thats cool, i have no problem with that. but trying to push them into 2025 by saying "newer cards and games are just bad optimisation" is silly talk. theyre all several years old. RX 580 being almost 9 years old

dusky wave
open raft
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9 year old GPUs should not be left out to dry for 1080p@60FPS in modern titles. Let alone AA ones.

icy orbit
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they arent. youre still capable of playing the newer titles. just dont expect much at all ultra settings

open raft
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What was considered AAA a decade ago should be allowed to be considered AA today.

icy orbit
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absolutely not

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the newest GPUs today gaps absolutely any GPU that was released a decade ago

dusky wave
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Try a level or so

icy orbit
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any decade old GPU doesnt even come close to comparing to a 5090, for example

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its very cool that you appreciate old hardware but seriously, theyre old and outdated

dusky wave
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Same with cpus

icy orbit
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dont even begin with CPUs. did you see the whole "issues" with the B580? its simple fix was to just.. not be using 6+ year old CPUs

exotic jacinth
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That 2500K lasted forever I remember lol. CPUs were just stuck at 4C8T for like 6 years

open raft
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I like pairing newer CPUs with older GPUs!

dusky wave
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I dont understand that logic

icy orbit
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hes playing at 720p

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it makes a lot of sense

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you could buy an RX 6600 for all that matters and still likely never face issues at 720p

elder brook
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I plays on 144p

open raft
full flint
icy orbit
open raft
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Also for the record, my current laptop screen is 1200p. And I'm sticking with Ampere on desktop and Lovelace on laptop for the time being.

elder brook
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5080 is my decision

icy orbit
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nice

elder brook
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Cuz of college i gotta choose laptop otherwise i would have gone for desktop

dusky wave
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Nice im guessing thats a 2k laptop

open raft
elder brook
raven hull
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Probably time to upgrade my RAM and GPU

icy orbit
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a capacity upgrade wont improve performance unless youre actually maxing ram

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buying faster ram doesnt really make much sense when youd likely just be better off overclocking your current ram

raven hull
# icy orbit upgrade ram how

yeah, I know. Just my specs are better than my friends, besides the RAM, and her performance is better than mine. I don't know what's happening.

icy orbit
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uhh

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youre playing at a much higher resolution than her

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shes playing at 1080p and has a significantly better CPU than you

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its not rocket science as to why she gets the bigger numbers

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what benchmark is this anyway

icy orbit
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i guarantee you the ram is absolutely not the problem here

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in fact, there is no problem

smoky flame
#

think I'll give this benchmark a go on my system tonight

icy orbit
raven hull
raven hull
icy orbit
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oh sick

icy orbit
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considering youre on ultra wide 1440p id probably just think about a 5600/5700x3d

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wouldnt bother spending hundreds on a new motherboard and ram when itd be better spent on a gpu

raven hull
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yeah, I can't ball out for a new gpu right now. just want it bump up to hold me for 2 years for when I can do a full new pc.

icy orbit
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yeah id either just go for a 5600 or just rock your 2700 till you upgrade

smoky flame
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I like to crank graphics settings to max but will run the Monster Hunter Wilds benchmark at both 1080p and 4K maxed settings, no upscaling or frame generation active

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Kind of wish shader compiling could be tasked in the background while you could still get into the game without having to wait on that stuff finishing. Though I know performance will be rather wacky until it completes

icy orbit
smoky flame
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huh?

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4K test complete. Now to go and run it at 1080p. Be right back

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1080p test complete. Same settings

exotic jacinth
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Shader compilation step took like 15 minutes for me on the benchmark lol, think I’d step it down to 1440p on the 3080Ti as 4K was a bit too much even with DLSS.

exotic jacinth
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Very heavy on the GPU side. Basically have to play it at 1080p medium if I don’t want any drops under 60fps. DLSS it bumps up to 1440p. That chart seems a bit misleading because technically you can do all that at 4K frame gen but not the best result

exotic jacinth
dusky wave
exotic jacinth
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I’ll be getting this one on ps5 anyway as most people I know will be playing there and a bit less hassle but was interesting to test out anyway. RE engine games seem to be a mixed bag in PC RE4 was probably one of the better ones.

dusky wave
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i played re games on pc with mods pretty simple to use them

full flint
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Hey

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Man does Microsoft suck for cancelling the dlc for age of empires 3

errant sorrel
#

It's far less popular than AOE2 and AOE4 so I guess it makes sense

ruby spear
mellow lintel
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👀

ruby spear
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Hah, no. Live service elements getting them more money isn't what would make it a success. That would definitely have resulted in fewer overall sales.

exotic jacinth
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Biggest complaints I’ve heard about it have been around the dialogue and poor writing but I’ve yet to play it yet

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Will probably wait for it to come on ea access

dusky wave
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same

icy orbit
exotic jacinth
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BioWare are probably on thin ice with EA now, they have had several games not meet the mark of what made the studio great in a row. Same with Dice so will be interesting to see what happens next

open raft
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Haven't seen much love for Mirror's Edge from them lately. Maybe if they developed a sequel to Catalyst featuring gunplay instead of the always online dumpsterfire Battlefield 2042. And especially since it has no campaign. Bloody shame.

exotic jacinth
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Still not played catalyst yet, I enjoyed the original Mirrors Edge

upper python
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yo guys can someone help me with a problem i have while i try to install fh5 on my pc?

mellow lintel
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this was handled in another chat for people who want to try and poke it lol

lost tapir
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GOG Codes:

Bioshock Infinite - 3TLR48F97F9C0235F0

The Talos Principle: Gold Edition - HPT49DB78DC145AE29

dusky glacier
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ty for the games hehehehe

marble depot
#

Do you need controler for cloud gaming on pc?

ruby spear
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For most games, yes. There's a selection that can be played with KB&M, but not all games.

marble depot
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Bad deal

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But thanks

dusky wave
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Cloud gaming uses the console version of games

upper python
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Yo can someone help me, when i try to install fh5 on another disk except C it wont let me and will change back to disk C ive already tried modifying the ownership of the other disks and tried installing from microsoft store but nothing seems to be working

ruby spear
#

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shrewd pine
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Looking a a WH game and wondering if any of them are good/worth it or if it's s fun game in general

clever sail
#

What's everyone's CPU/GPU combo these days?
I'm on a Ryzen 7 5800x / eVGA RTX 3070 FTW3

smoky flame
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Ryzen 7 9800X3D and 7900 XTX

ruby spear
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i9-13900K, RTX 4090

smoky flame
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I keep going between wanting to try and get a 5090 and not, though one of my friends who builds PCs recently managed to get their hands on a 5090 and told me enough to potentially want to avoid it

clever sail
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nice!, I do plan on getting a 5070 ti this year at somepoint

clever sail
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a lot are being bricked right now, even though its mainly the 5090D variant that meant for the chinese market

smoky flame
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for a discussion I had with them from earlier today

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and to top it off the price of it puts me off quite a bit so yeah, its a bit of a tug of war in my head but I think I'm leaning towards avoiding the 5090 by the day

exotic jacinth
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Hmm well I guess there is no need to rush as you already have a high end card anyway. Maybe if there are some driver issues they will clear them up soon. I usually like to wait a few months just to avoid those things where I can

smoky flame
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yeah, this is in no way an urgent purchase. I'd be taking my time, potentially a few months yet before I pull the buying trigger on one but another concern I do have is the overall power draw. My friend has a device that he connected to the wall outlet that reads power draw and it was exceeding 1000W! (about 750W of that was the 5090 alone lol) going to find the picture, it had that server going crazy 😄

exotic jacinth
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Sounds like the energy bill will be expensive with that at full load

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I suppose 1200w would make sense just to be in the clear

icy orbit
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drivers arent the best for it

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its completely unsupported in some things such as stable diffusion

patent hound
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I wouldn’t get a FE anyway tbh

opaque lance
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Just finished New Vegas, that was a fun title

smoky flame
# patent hound I wouldn’t get a FE anyway tbh

Why not considering it is amongst the cheapest and is no less of a 5090 than any others. I would grudge paying the prices some AIB partners have set for their cards, like the £2800 ASUS ROG Astral. Honestly could care less if it is a better cooler, there is no way you will see me spend another £860 or so (vs the £1939 on the FE) for a cooler that is much thicker and makes the card even longer too

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If I was to go through with a 5090 purchase still I’d be keeping the cost as close to the FE pricing as I can as I would also have to look at another power supply too. Failing that I won’t bother and instead look towards what’s next

blissful carbon
dense elbow
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I Want Game Pass 1 Month

mellow lintel
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ok? it is pretty popular

dense elbow
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I want it for one month

mellow lintel
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so go get it?

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or save up for it

dense elbow
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I didn't understand you

mellow lintel
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No one here is going to get it for you.

dense elbow
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Why

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i want 1 month

obsidian bobcatBOT
# dense elbow i want 1 month

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compact fern
dense elbow
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How do I get a backup code, I want it for free

mellow lintel
mellow lintel
dense elbow
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How do I know if it exists?

mellow lintel
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check there

dense elbow
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It supports but how do I find it

mellow lintel
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this explains how to use it to earn points towards things

devout remnant
smoky flame
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I feel my tone with that message was kind of off earlier 😦

#

but yeah, all I'm interested in is gaming at the highest possible settings (that currently doesn't include ray tracing or path tracing) at 4K. Never really been one for overclocking as I simply believe the hardware should run fine out of the box

icy orbit
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some people also just value their own desired aesthetics enough to pay more

shrewd rock
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algm gang beasts?

crude sigil
cedar smelt
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Have they solved the power connector problem yet? Because I was never buying an 80 or 90 class card, but if I were, I'd want to be real sure it wouldn't catch fire.

icy orbit
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people weren't putting it in properly leading to issues with it. issues become worse when youre pumping more heat through it. although the newer 12V-2X6 "fixes" this more by shortening the sense pins, meaning its harder to have the cable loose and still work

cedar smelt
icy orbit
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whats your reason?

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i mean, im sure some people just had issues with it despite having it properly flush, but a lot of the time it seemed to be either ridiculously unsafe overclocking, or just loose connections + high heat

cedar smelt
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I've seen post-mortem examinations and experiments on a variety of cards on YouTube, where they concluded (I couldn't personally say) that wasn't the problem. That the connector design is the problem, not user error. I'm taking their word on it because they sounded like they were making convincing case. That and, I just don't believe that many faults were all user / builder error.

icy orbit
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there was a user not too long ago who posted their cable melting, but its shown through their post history that they state several times they just lazily overclocked their gpu

cedar smelt
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We've never had this many faults before, and we've never had 12vhpr before.

icy orbit
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a loose 6+2 is a lot safer than a loose 12vhpwr

cedar smelt
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We've also never had cards drawing 450 watts before, of course.

icy orbit
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the pins on the different connections are yknow, different

cedar smelt
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I guess you can have 2x 6+2 meaning what is that, 375 watts TDP?

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Am I right in recalling the slot gives 75 watts?

icy orbit
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slot gives 75 yes

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i mean, i still think that it was silly for nvidia to push a new connection for their new high power gpus without making it "idiot proof". but the new 12v-2x6 is basically that

cedar smelt
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I sure do hope so.

icy orbit
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its not like the 4060 or the 4070 uses the 12vhpwr. if it did, im sure it would prove more towards it being a "user error" in the sense that its the cable being loose in combination with high heat being the issue

cedar smelt
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FYI the YouTuber I trust is Gamer's Nexus. They really seemed to suggest that in their opinion the controller was of a faulty design.

icy orbit
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yeah, gamers nexus is very legitimate.

cedar smelt
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While I will admit that I am not in the market for 80-class nVidia cards for budgetary reasons, I am honestly rather glad to not have faced these kinds of choices.

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My PC is more modest in cost, and performance... so this is all very academic to me.

icy orbit
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you also have to keep in mind that compared to how many units were sold, the amount that faced melting connector issues was little

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ive been using a 4080 super with a native 12vhpwr near enough since release

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although, the PSU im using (A850GL unfortunately) has the pins coloured yellow, so its a lot easier to see if the cable is loose or flush

cedar smelt
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My perspective has been skewed by the fact I've known people who had this happen.

icy orbit
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yeah, i doubt that helps things

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its pretty difficult to believe something if you can see the opposite first hand

cedar smelt
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Have you seen the GN coverage at all?

icy orbit
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yeah i browse their page often

cedar smelt
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They don't exactly hold back on their opinion of the standard.

icy orbit
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they dont hold back on any of their opinions, its pretty cool

cedar smelt
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Yeah, this is true. Even when talking about people they consider friends, they are willing to be savage about what that person gets wrong.

icy orbit
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i think 12vhpwr is gross, dont get me wrong. but its definitely a heightened issue if people are using it loose

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technically the newer nvidia adapter that comes with 50 series is safer than using a native 12vhpwr from your psu

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but adapters are ugly lol

cedar smelt
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If I end up with a spare 2k sometime in the next few years I'll make that choice. 😉

icy orbit
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hah yeah, the newer gpus are very expensive. although the market currently just isnt a good spot, at least not in the US

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high demand and low stock. doesnt really end well for the prices

cedar smelt
#

I know this ain't everyone... but I'm really very OK with what I have which is excellent performance for 1080p-1440p in most games with high-but-not-ultra.

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Oh and I'm also fine with 60Hz over 120 or more. It lets me do what I want, for less.

icy orbit
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chasing ultra settings when theyre often nearly identical to high has never been something thats made sense to me, but im not gonna stop people from doing what they want 😛

cedar smelt
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Some people in this channel want 4k Ultra HDR RTX On, and if it bring them joy I can't say a bad word about it.

icy orbit
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i bought my 4080 with the intent of playing at 4K, but the monitor i was hoping to get went out of stock around the time of purchase.
i was too lazy to go browsing RTINGS for covered 4K monitors again so i just went with a G2724D and now use 1440p.

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not too bad though. im able to crank everything up to max if i wanted and run frames im pretty happy with

cedar smelt
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And lately I got a ROG Ally to play on the go, that's only further killed my desire to push higher.

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At this point, a satisfying game at low specs is a joy of its own.

icy orbit
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oh sick. i was considering a rog ally not too long ago, but i never caved in.

#

what games do you play on it?

cedar smelt
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I've been playing Atelier Ryza, Soulstone Survivors, Borderlands 2, Euro Truck Sim all running very nicely.

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I will say that it chokes and dies if you try to play Hardspace: Shipbreaker.

#

That's gonna be a slideshow for some reason.

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I've not had it long.

icy orbit
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very nice

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i dont think i could justify one for my current played games, at least not over a switch 2... whenever that releases

cedar smelt
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I don't think I'll be getting Switch 2. For me the problem is that I'm never willing to pay the price for Nintendo releases.

#

I have very few games for Switch 1.

icy orbit
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hah fair enough

#

nintendo titles are pretty expensive

cedar smelt
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And never go on sale.

compact fern
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Yeah I'm not a fan of buying games at full price.

dusky wave
#

is it just me or does mh wilds benchmarks looks so misleading compared to pc specs?

dusky wave
compact fern
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True.

dusky wave
blissful carbon
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I would pay a lot for something like a Forza Horizon game but not for the average FPS game

devout remnant
devout remnant
dim escarp
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Guys does anyone have some knowledge about steam gift cards if yes I need help to buy one from Australia that can be accepted internally by anyone

dusky wave
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never brought one out of country sorry

mellow lintel
dim escarp
mellow lintel
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no , because they are region locked.

dim escarp
mellow lintel
#

There are usually laws about it, or whatever. So no you can't lol

dim escarp
mellow lintel
#

not really possible. I'd suggest sending the money (if for xbox) via some other way and letting them buy it

#

or on steam you can buy the game and gift it directly in the purchase spot

dim escarp
mellow lintel
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i don't know

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you'd have to check there yourself

icy orbit
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forgot to turn @ off gg

open raft
#

So, what is the point in buying a new desktop every 5 years instead of 10?

compact fern
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Newer hardware I'd imagine.

solemn orbit
#

what TOP5 strategy games/series are your favouret? for me in this order 1. Age of Empires 2. Rise of Nations 3. Age of Mythology 4. Warcraft 5. Starcraft

icy orbit
#

usually though it just comes down to faster hardware

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people get unhappy with performance. instead of waiting 5 more years for nothing they just buy it then and there

dusky wave
misty snow
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I'm on steam, How do i sign out of my Xbox account on forza?

#

there's this error where I can't connect to the online things and I wanna try and fix that

#

forza 4 btw

#

I mean I signed out

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but like do y'all know ways to fix that

#

NVM IT WORKED :D

remote ice
#

i have a xbox game pass code fpr 1 month for pc if anyone wants it dm me

smoky flame
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looks like there are some reports coming through of connectors melting on the 5090. Definitely not touching that GPU

icy orbit
teal wave
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hello, i'm new here
Can someone tell me how to install Windows?

icy orbit
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although the ideal method is with a USB

smoky flame
cedar smelt
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Well, the 5090 is stated to draw 575W but I agree in principle.

smoky flame
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Yeah, the 5090 is the only GPU that exceeds the spec 3x 8 pin + PCIe power limits. Could have still worked for the 4090 as that was 450W while having some headroom for overclocking, if the user wished

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I forgot how much power those 8 pin connectors are rated for if you wanted to go over the spec. Though something in my head is screaming at me around 280W for some reason- though by that point I guess the risk of 8 pin connectors melting increases significantly?

smoky flame
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How though? The 8 pin connectors are known to have a higher safety rating than the 16 pin/12vhpwr connectors and I can honestly say I have never heard of 8 pin connectors melting since I got into PC gaming back in 2016

icy orbit
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i see them melt often

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although i daily BAPC so thats expected

smoky flame
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BAPC?

cedar smelt
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8 pin PCIe power supplies a maximum of 150 watts over 8 pins. 12VHPR supplies 600 watts over 16 pins, which is a massive increase in watts for not a massive increase in pins.

icy orbit
#

r/buildapc

cedar smelt
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Double the pins / conductors, quadruple the load. Not to mention that four of those pins are much smaller than the other 12.

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I'm curious to measure the pin spacing / wire gauge on both, but I don't know if I could get an accurate reading.

smoky flame
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I don't see why a revision of the 8 pin connector couldn't have happened that might have somehow allowed it to use more power without exceeding the spec like 150W is the spec limit but if there was a way to increase that even to 225W with a revision. 3x 8 pin with such a configuration would exceed the 5090 requirements of 575W as 3x 225W + 75W comes out to 750W but ofc I guess there are reasons why such a thing never happened or it would have

cedar smelt
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I'm gonna guess that it would need to be a different connector. Similar, but different.

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See, I think that maybe they'd use a heavier gauge wire for the higher load, and maybe they'd want to be absolutely sure that wasn't gonna get an old cable plugged into it.

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Can't be sure, but I feel like you don't want to take chances... except hey, look where we ended up so what do I know?

smoky flame
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all seems a bit messy with the 12vhpwr connector. As long as you don't touch the flagship tier GPUs (4090 or 5090) things seem alright as I don't think I've heard of any issues surrounding the lower end SKUs but I may be wrong there

smoky flame
icy orbit
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i saw this actually its kinda silly

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its not trying to use the side ones so it just reaches big numbers

smoky flame
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still, those sorts of reading are scary. Nvidia claimed the connector melting issue should be a thing of the past days before the 5090 launched. I just see how selling GPUs at $1500+ (4090 and now 5090) where the connectors can melt is unacceptable. I thought all sorts of meticulous testing went into ensuring these flagship GPUs had very little that could go wrong with them. I just don't buy it that most of the connector melting issues has been a result of "user error". Those buying these cards should know how to handle them properly, is that Nvidia calling out their own enthusiast buyers as idiots or something? Sorry for going all ranty with this

ember berry
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cd

compact fern
icy orbit
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^ you absolutely underestimate people if you think spending a lot of money means theyll make sure they do it properly

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youd be very surprised how many times people post photos of things asking if its in properly and half the pins are loose

ashen plover
#

Hey, I tried to play Minecraft but its telling me waiting on install and its been like that for around 30 mins now? What could be the problem?

plucky niche
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...

short radish
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Br

obsidian bobcatBOT
short lily
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Guys, I am a computer player. How do I get Microsoft Rewards and exchange them for Game Pass?

smoky flame
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Blackwell and Ada are hot right now Daisy chain of expansion cables are not a good idea for RTX 5090 FE Redditor RevolutionaryPea7570 claims that his RTX 5090 Founders Edition experienced a cable burn. While the card appears to be unaffected, the same cannot be said for the PSU cables, which have melted. The user […]

lethal yew
#

I'm not so well aware of how software implementations work In gpus, but is there any actual reason why dlss 4 cannot run on rtx 4000 series cards?

lost tapir
#

GOG:

The Smurfs 2 -> FCS548E89EA3B210EC

icy orbit
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i was using DLSS4 earlier on my 4080 S lol

icy orbit
icy orbit
icy orbit
lethal yew
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Can rtx 40 series hardware not support it?

icy orbit
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never looked into it lol

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ill see if i can find an answer in a bit

smoky flame
# icy orbit im not sure if thats just a silly image they used on the thumbnail but i doubt t...

yeah, that triple adapter really isn't wise haha but that connector really needs to be reconsidered. In trying to minimize the number of cables required to connect a GPU it has created an issue that could render very expensive GPUs (and possibly power supplies too) useless. Originally I was blaming Nvidia but now I understand that isn't the case. Still terrifies me to no end that both the 5080 and 5090 can be affected though and I doubt Nvidia will change back to 8 pin connectors now either 😦

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if I had any of the affected GPUs where the 12vhpwr connector is known to melt I'd be making sure I stick to the recommendations and not fooling around with any daisy chaining of connectors. Recommendations seem to be to either use the provided adapter that should be found in the box with the GPU or if the power supply you have has support for it a native 12vhpwr (600W rated for the 5090) connector to use that instead

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in other PC gaming news though. RDNA 4 is imminent! rooPog1 Always love new shiny PC hardware announcements

crimson thunder
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GTA 6 coming March 👀

rugged oriole
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what day

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took em long enuff

ruby spear
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Ignore them.

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Stop spreading misinformation @crimson thunder

fallow frigate
#

HOW EXZACTLLY DO YOU PLAY GAMESON HERE

raven hull
#

Like as in Discord activities?

solemn orbit
#

I recommend the following games for PC this year:

Age of Empires: Definitive Edition 1-4 + all DLC

Age of Mythology Retold

Rise of Nations: Extended Edition

Doom: The Dark Ages

GTA6

ruby spear
#

GTA 6 isn't releasing on PC this year.

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It hasn't even been confirmed for PC yet. I'm sure it will release on PC, but it will probably be a year or more after console release that it will make it to PC.

solemn orbit
#

ok. im gonna play GTA6 on Xbox Series X

exotic cloud
#

switch pro controller goes crazy in xbox games
who can do

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game pass

safe mica
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trying to download no mans sky it keeps coming up with

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error code 0x80073cfb

obsidian bobcatBOT
#

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hazy isle
#

does anyone here else have this problem? When i try to login on the Xbox Website i get kicked from the Website and it tells me then that i have been logged out???

dusky wave
hazy isle
#

No it jus doesnt let me Login to Change my settings

dusky wave
#

couldnt u change ur settings on the xbox pc app?

thorn shadow
#

anyone know how to fix game bar on windows 11 i cant take screenshots or clips

obsidian bobcatBOT
#

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NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

hazy isle
supple depot
#

anyone having issues launching the xbox app? it worked fine last year but since i tried using it a few months back its just stuck on launching, i tried like everything i could find to get it to work but nothing works

dusky wave
#

Update windows

supple depot
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@dusky wave updated and still stuck launching

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As I say I looked it up and tried loads of different things, repairing, reinstalling, changing antivirus, doing CMD prompts nothing worked

icy orbit
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dont run scripts that you dont know

icy orbit
pallid roost
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if i buy pc gamepass, will i be able to play forza horizon 5? i dont have a xbox just a pc, but im not sure if i ned ultimate gamepass or just pc gamepass

late jasper
#

I keep getting this error 0x80073D0D

dusky wave
frail quest
dim pumice
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any news regarding DLSS 4 for RTX 30 ?

dusky wave
#

I thought dlss4 only available for 40 series and above?

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Or am i wrong?

gusty coral
#

I dont think you are

patent hound
icy orbit
icy orbit
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the only thing you cant do is use MFG

dusky wave
dusky wave
#

I tried avowed with ray tracing on and tsr at 67 percent i got around 50ish fps on my 6800xt at 4k which isnt bad.

smoky flame
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I've seen some comparisons between ray tracing on and off in Avowed and really can't spot the difference while the consumes so much more performance than even Epic settings

#

unpopular opinion with ray tracing but you know how people say not to game at ultra/maxed settings? why don't they also include ray tracing settings as they are even more demanding than anything ultra settings will throw. At least ultra won't result in losing something like two thirds of the performance for some fancy realistic puddles, lighting or shadows.

dusky wave
lucid heron
#

I just bought a game for Xbox app, it shows up in my phone, but when I go to the app on pc it doesn’t show up, how do I fix this?

lucid heron
#

Sea of thieves

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Iv Restarted the Xbox app a few times and the game still doesn’t show up

dusky wave
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Did u signed into the correct qcct on ms store and xbox app

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That brought the game

lucid heron
#

I just got it, I was logged into a wrong account on Xbox app 😭

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But I have the game now so I’m good

dusky wave
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Thats why i use only 1 xbox acct on pc

dim escarp
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Hllo

hard ibex
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what is a good gpu for i5 13th gen

ruby spear
#

Provide the rest of the information I said to give.

wicked kestrel
hard ibex
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13600k

dusky wave
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Along what ram

ruby spear
#

What are your full specs?
What's your budget?
What country are you in?

hard ibex
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its a bit low but its 22

dusky wave
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Ddr4 or 5?

hard ibex
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4

dusky wave
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Just gpu upgrade or going ddr5 mobo

hard ibex
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what do u suggest

dusky wave
#

Again answer rhinne questions

hard ibex
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what ?

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i5 13600k

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NZXT Kraken X53 240mm AIO Cooler

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msi mag z690 motherboard

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22 gb ddr4 ram

dusky wave
#

That dont sound right

hard ibex
#

what >

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what ?

dusky wave
#

Nobody has 22 gigs of ram on ddr4

hard ibex
#

i just have somehow

dusky wave
#

U definitely dont mismatch ram

hard ibex
#

whats that ?

dusky wave
#

Its usually 8 16 32 64 etc

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In dual channel ram

wicked kestrel
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If i remember correct one of my mates has 22 gigs of ram in his laptop

dusky wave
#

How do they manage that? I never saw a system thats not either 8 16 or 32 gigs ram

wicked kestrel
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Can be mistaken ofc

hard ibex
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i dont know

dusky wave
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It really all depends on ur budget and ur country. U may need correct ram issue could possibly cause lower perf or something

hard ibex
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it says 22 gb ram useable i dont know it just says

dusky wave
#

As well as what games u will be running and whqt resolutions

hard ibex
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most probably 1080

dusky wave
#

I could recommend a budget gpu but it could cost like 1000 in ur country or something

hard ibex
#

1000 $

#

?

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i think i know a person

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someone who can upgrade my pc

dusky wave
#

It depends ur budget for ur upgrade

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What gpu do u have rn

hard ibex
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1660 super

dusky wave
#

Staying with nividia?

hard ibex
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i dont wanna go a bit to high just a little bit of a jump

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well i dont know just anything better

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well i gotta go for some time like an hour or so will talk later

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going out

dusky wave
icy orbit
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6gb exists

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mostly seen on laptops though

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22gb on a tower is probably GiB or cache or something.
he said it was 22 useable or something

dusky wave
#

Oh. I know desktops not laptops lol

dull holly
#

anyone having a issue with the microsoft store not working at all as well as the xbox app not loading at all?

dry phoenix
#

Feel like the whole microsoft environment is slow asf

#

Can't open Xbox app, cant download a game from the store

mellow lintel
#

please dont post in multiple channels

tulip sluice
obsidian bobcatBOT
#

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NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

ruby spear
#

@tulip sluice Read the message above

tulip sluice
ruby spear
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I mean, if you read chat, the reason is pretty clear.

tulip sluice
versed plank
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um

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can a professional find a good gaming pc for me?

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i have a specific amazon link

full flint
icy orbit
#

amazon prebuilts dont tend to be good

patent hound
#

It seems like the 50 series launch has been full of issues so far

dusky wave
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especially the 5090s

smoky flame
#

5070 Ti also seems to have been affected by the loss of ROPs while having a larger impact to performance as a result. Estimated up to 12% loss (vs the 4% on affected 5090)

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I’m glad I didn’t go any further with trying to get a 5090. Would have returned it within 48 hours with all these issues. Spend $2000+ for possibly one of Nvidia’s worst launches? No thanks

icy orbit
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looks like every gpu launch

smoky flame
#

not sure about that. I had one of those issues listed back when the 7900 XTX launched and that was driver issues. Those can be expected with any new product launch but a lot of the other stuff I find unacceptable considering how much Nvidia are charging for these GPUs. Nvidia even claimed connector melting should have been a thing of the past (with RTX 4090) but within 20 days it is back and there has even been the odd instances of 5080 affected this time too

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https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-astral-rtx-5090-catches-fire-after-capacitor-blows and to top it all off. Someone's 5090 Astral that costs $3000+ has even caught fire too. ASUS don't need anymore bad press but unfortunately it looks like it is headed that way once again

VideoCardz.com

ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090: For those who dare The new ROG Astral series from ASUS is known for two things: how large these graphics cards are and how expensive they are. The RTX 5090 Astral costs more than $2800, if you are even lucky to find it in stock. Speaking of luck, Redditor Impossible-Weight485 […]

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luckily Gamers Nexus appear to have contacted them and idk if they communicated since but if so we'll see what Gamers Nexus has to say about this in the coming months no doubt and they have already spat ASUS out at least twice so it really won't look good for ASUS being in the negative headlines (and in Gamers Nexus crosshairs once again, lol)

dusky wave
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definitely waiting on 60 series at least 3 months after launch lol

compact fern
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Isn't all that juice being delivered over like two wires? The hell is that about.

raven hull
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Bad manufacturing

exotic jacinth
full flint
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oh yeaa chromebook gaming time

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xbox cloud, nvidia geforce now, stadia, and whatever else are going to make me a pro gamer moment

patent hound
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Stadia doesn’t even exist anymore lol

solemn orbit
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allmost 500h allready. i never have been play this much one game. not even half of this.

devout remnant
dusky wave
devout remnant
dusky wave
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How about the psus

cedar smelt
solemn ferry
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prone*

devout remnant
wicked tiger
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Code drop - Prime Gaming

Wolfenstein: Youngblood

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BioShock Infinite Complete Edition

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BioShock 2 Remastered

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The Talos Principle: Gold Edition

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Colt Canyon

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latent gate
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So you can offload RTX frame gen in the lossless scaling program to a secondary GPU

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And it gets the second best latencies on the chart

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Basically cuts the response latency in half towards baseline

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The fact this is something that’s just possible and isn’t openly bragged about from NVIDIA is kind of insane

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Turning a smaller secondary GPU into a coprocessor is somewhat what I do with my 1080ti and 1660ti but not like this

iron spindle
solemn orbit
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"If cancer kill me cancer die also so its win win"

icy orbit
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cool

blissful carbon
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C&C on Steam is pretty nice

vernal parrot
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Can you help me??

obsidian bobcatBOT
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mellow lintel
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stop

solemn orbit
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they pushing way too many Command & Conquer games and did not care quality etc.

blissful carbon
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C&C Generals was a good one IMO. As was Red Alert.

solemn orbit
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yes

strange lantern
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smoky flame
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AMD 9070 series announcement later today! rooPog1

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AMD’s best ever chance to take some market share off Nvidia with the state they find their RTX 50 series launch in

solemn orbit
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DLSS4 with RTX 5000 series is so awesome

smoky flame
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I think we're in for some surprises. Less than 3 hours and we'll know for sure

solemn orbit
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i hope too but 95% sure nothing so good come

stoic viper
stoic viper
smoky flame
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other than driver issues that is expected of every new launch I don't think AMD will run into the same kinds of other issues Nvidia has faced with RTX 5000 series. ROPs issue is almost laughable and seems to have affected all launched SKUs so far (5090 to the 5070 Ti) though the latest driver update claims to have fixed BSOD and black screen issues

stoic viper
smoky flame
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also, Nvidia's pricing is such a scam when both the 5070 Ti and 5080 offer barely any improvement over their predecessors. It used to be the 80 SKU would surpass the previous gen flagship. Now we see one of the smallest gen on gen increases

stoic viper
solemn orbit
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no any reason not to use DLSS4

stoic viper
solemn orbit
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why you think that?

smoky flame
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Personally not a fan of frame generation, which is what Nvidia used to compare the 5070 Ti to a 4090, which was hilarious. It gets destroyed by the 4090 where neither DLSS 4 or Frame Generation is available. Though I don't mind upscaling I'd only use it in cases where I can't maintain 60+ FPS

stoic viper
stoic viper
solemn orbit
stoic viper
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TAA analyzes several frames and takes data from previous frames to smooth the current one. This allows you to achieve good results with less load on the system. 3

However, TAA also has its drawbacks: excessive blurring, loss of textures and details, the need for a large amount of processor memory to save images, unstable frame rate on cheap video cards. The main disadvantage is the ghosting effect (residual image): "tails" appear around moving objects

smoky flame
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fake frames should be compared only when rivals can also use the technology. Not to mention all 3 of those games are effectively Nvidia tech demos. One of which I've turned really sour with how they implemented FSR 3. Took them far too long for a subpar implementation while they have no issues with Nvidia's tech. A clear and obvious bias there

stoic viper
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honestly i don't care about a fully drawn frame, tv has been able to make drawn frames for a long time

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not drawing but generating

ruby spear
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Yeah and the fake frames generated by TVs make things look terrible.

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That feature/setting should not exist.

stoic viper
smoky flame
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the GPU level stuff is meant to be pretty good, especially the new 4x option with 50 series Nvidia cards but honestly I really don't like where gaming is going if devs are going to rely heavily on these fake frames

stoic viper
solemn orbit
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"Overall, DLSS 4 offers significant performance improvements and enhances the gaming experience. However, like all technologies, it has its own limitations and potential drawbacks. Nonetheless, these drawbacks are rare and usually mild."

stoic viper
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you need at least 30 or 60 frames in pure form, then frame generation will be used but they will feel like 30 or 60 frames under control

smoky flame
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ideally the figure is 60 FPS minimum iirc recommended for frame generation to work properly but it will still feel like 60 FPS with perhaps worse latency, unless devs also add support for AMD, Intel and Nvidia's specific latency reducing technologies too. AMD Anti-Lag 2, Intel XeLL and Nvidia Reflex/Reflex 2

stoic viper
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and you can't play old games

smoky flame
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huh?

stoic viper
smoky flame
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do you mean the 32 bit PhysX that Nvidia dropped with the 50 series causing issues with some older games that used the technology?

stoic viper
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yeah

smoky flame
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can still play them but the PhysX effects would have to be turned off so to not run into performance issues

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PhysX is dead these days anyway from what I hear

stoic viper
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I don't understand why I should think when, for example, I paid 1000 dollars on a video card

smoky flame
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crazy to believe though that because of this change Nvidia originally didn't disclose (it was found by users, just like the ROPs issue and connector melting 2.0 issue) enabling PhysX on even something as ridiculously powerful (and expensive) as the 5090 could bring it to its knees when PhysX effects are on screen lol