general-chat

[limber carbon]

It won't.
That (toxic) storyline is not coming back to Forza Horizon.

[inner arrow]

15 minutes over. Judge still not back. Doesn't seem to be eager to hear more of that dry lawyer

[long maple]

you think Forza Horizon gets shown at the next showcase or still too early?

[gilded heart]

frenzy field or brutal bastion

[gilded heart]

too early, playgrounds working on fable which prob releasing 2025

[vocal gorge]

one thing I gotta say though, none of the Forza Horizon games had anything on Test Drive Unlimited. I still miss those games and hope to hear more about the upcoming Solar Crown before too long

[long maple]

Playground for Fable has separate teams its not gonna be the Forza Horizon team working on it.

they are still hiring for Fable aswell

oh no its Console Wars talk now lol

[inner arrow]

I think it was every 2 years till FH5 which then took 3 years to make. So I think FH6 might take 3 years again.

[limber carbon]

Too early.
Work on FH6 has began late last year.
There's still lots more they can do with FH5, despite the fatigue with large subset of gamers.

[gilded heart]

forza 6 in 2024 would be great

but i think 2025 is most reasonable

[exotic swift]

Not my brother logging in to discord account to get unbanned from this server

[inner arrow]

It is doable since they have two teams or to be exact more smaller ones since FH titles always get supported for longer

[gilded heart]

i think it would make sense for 2025

2024 has hellblade and avowed, if everything goes right 2025 will have fable and forza 6

[long maple]

I am in no rush, for another Horizon. just hope they change it up a bit

[gilded heart]

a japan setting would be amazing

[merry palm]

Please dont try and start drama here. Its unhelpful

[limber carbon]

Not possible. The entire vehicle physics team were at work on the physics for 1.5 years post-release of FH5.
They won't change the formula for FH6 - it will be more or less the same sandbox exploration game.
Its likely there's a reboot after FH6.

[inner arrow]

https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1672289652756340736

Josh Sawyer but directed by Wes Anderson lol!!! (@jesawyer)

I hope the judge in the Xbox case plays Pentiment.

Twitter · Jun 23, 2023, 5:04 PM

[long maple]

spicy stuff now doom

[inner arrow]

Yep

[gilded heart]

doom 3 when

[inner arrow]

https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1672290948179714048 Sawyer lol

Josh Sawyer but directed by Wes Anderson lol!!! (@jesawyer)

I just think they might learn a little something about pre-Carolina law in the Holy Roman Empire.

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Twitter · Jun 23, 2023, 5:10 PM

FTC lawyer is doing Xboxes work right here lol

[gilded vault]

Why is there a server for Xbox BUT NOT FOR PLAYSTATION

[gilded heart]

there is

[gray latch]

ask sony

[gilded vault]

Oh

[loud maple]

Hi all

[cinder veldt]

Unofficial

[random egret]

2k

[inner arrow]

Spencer confirmed console will still be the future for xbox

[halcyon stratus]

unofficial or not, he's still not in it lol

[cinder veldt]

Detail?

[sinful solstice]

i've arrived

[limpid flicker]

Here is your ring entrance music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRLvtzLUlGI

[inner arrow]

FTC : "Would you agree there are only 10-14 AAA games per year released?"
Me :

[limpid flicker]

It's an oldie, but it pretty much bangs from about 90 seconds in.

[queen lotus]

I believe it’s /ps5

[sinful solstice]

YES ... OPA!!!

[halcyon stratus]

If you click on a user's picture and then click 'view profile' there is a 'mutual servers' tab.... since I'm in the PS discord it is easy to see if someone else is not

[limpid flicker]

Do you ever go to chat there? I try, but it's too fast and this place is so cozy.

[inner arrow]

I am waiting for the FTC Lawyer to go : "Have you commit any war crimes, mister spencer, while the console wars was going on?"

[halcyon stratus]

i think I've deleted everything I've ever posted there. i asked for help on a couple things and ended up with DMs telling me I was an idiot lol

[limpid flicker]

I said it before, but I'm waiting for them to bust out "Are you now, or have you ever been..."

[halcyon stratus]

"Do you now, or have you ever, owner a voodoo doll of any executive from any competing company?"

[inner arrow]

FTC lawyer seriously said "Do you agree that you need subscriptions to determine the success of the subscription?"

[limpid flicker]

"Yerronner, permission to treat counsel as a blithering idiot?"

[merry palm]

yes this subscription is very successful, it has 0 people using it /s

[limpid flicker]

By these metrics I should create a few subscription services.

[inner arrow]

That's the FTC for you

[placid gorge]

Just bet Prey. Yall know any games like it? ( and dishonohred)

[limpid flicker]

I bet you already played the Bioshocks?

[placid gorge]

Ya lol

[gray latch]

if you like stealth, I recommend Deus Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided

[inner arrow]

Bioshock, Deus Ex, Prey, System Shock (The remake that is coming)

[limpid flicker]

Yeah those too. Sadly there's not too many recent ones.

[high tundra]

Oh my

[obsidian kayak]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8JqBdGw/ me when I first got to Arizona and got in n out

[inner arrow]

The genre is called "Immersive Sims" if you ever want to do a search yourself about indies.

[limpid flicker]

Sometimes known as "vent crawlers" and "0451 games" if you wanna be quirky.

[high tundra]

I have returned after over a year. I’m gonna be a good member this time lol

[placid gorge]

@gray latch deus ex looks cool. Might give it a go@inner arrow system shock looks cool aswell@limpid flicker these games slap so hard wish there were more 😦

[gray latch]

glad to hear it

[inner arrow]

If you can look through an absolutely disgustingly looking (On purpose) and headache introducing music (Again... on purpose lol) then I recommend Cruelty Squad

[limpid flicker]

IKR I wish there would be more too.

[inner arrow]

System Shock is not coop. Immersive Sims are all single player

[limpid flicker]

I think they're just hard to develop. They have a sort of a focus on emergent gameplay, you know? A few simple rules...

[placid gorge]

Ong played Dishonoured cuz it reminded me of Bloodborne and played Prey cuz it reminded me of deadspace. Two other really great games

[limpid flicker]

For anyone who really loves the aesthetics of Dishonoured, I can't reccommend the tabletop RPG Blades in the Dark hard enough.

[open flume]

i missed the whole first two hours of the clown show i mean FTC case bc of a meeting

dang it

[inner arrow]

There are plenty of good indie immersive sims. Gloomwood, Shadows of Doubt and many more

[long maple]

its the good stuff now, Penguin you not missed much

[inner arrow]

FTC making more points for Xbox case. Cause they are going indepth now about Sony buying FF16

[placid gorge]

Are they on Xbox?

[open oak]

Terrible idea to increase price of gamepass

[long maple]

it was always going to happen one day

[gray latch]

inflation! jazz hands

[fiery python]

So you want fewer or worse games?

[placid gorge]

Also are SOMA and Alien: isolation good? People mention those 2 when I bring up Arkane-like games

[gray latch]

SOMA is amazing

[inner arrow]

FTC : "So you need to buy companies to get exclusives cause other companies just go exclusive with Sony even for a lower price?"
Like... this is getting kinda ridiculous

[open oak]

Ultimate is going to 17 euro a month x12 is 204 euro a year for subscription

[lunar tartan]

Welcome to America! 😅

[open oak]

You can better just buy the games you want and pay 60-70 euro per game

[placid gorge]

Might give it a go

[inner arrow]

I wouldn't count them as pure immersive sims in terms of Prey. But definitely great games.

[limpid flicker]

It's a luxury hobby... and cheaper than many luxuries. Try buying Warhammer minis.

[idle spear]

Some people really liked Alien Isolation. I found the AI too annoying.

[fiery python]

So you want to buy three games per year instead of getting access to hundreds?

[placid gorge]

Yeh they just remind me of aesthetic thats all

[hollow hawk]

Still a deal, since buying 3 games @ $60 USD is still like $180 USD.

[open oak]

Im not sure, but i think its better to buy a few games instead now

[long maple]

60 its gone upto 70 now

[inner arrow]

Starfield was supposed to not come to Xbox. Oof.... Hearing all this in court makes sense for Xbox doing this content buy up

[placid gorge]

Or you guys could just get lucozade bottles and make multiple fake accounts.😀

[limpid flicker]

I'm so glad I don't track my game spending closely.

[lunar tartan]

You’ll never be able to make up the value of all the games on gamepass. It’s still a good deal for what you get

[fiery python]

I disagree. I'd rather have hundreds of games.

[limpid flicker]

Hmm, sounds fraudulent.

[placid gorge]

Uh

[open oak]

You dont own any of them, and each moment they can remove it from gamepass if they want

[inner arrow]

You pay 70€ for one game.
For that price I get nearly 5 months of gamepass with 300+ games

[placid gorge]

Forget i said that

[fiery python]

I don't care if I don't own them. Once I finish a game I very rarely play it again.

[cinder veldt]

Wait until you hear about your ”owned” games

[inner arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/think-mark-invincible-omniman-bhondamous-gif-22025607

[open oak]

204 euro a year is a lot money for the average

[open flume]

i pay to go to the movies and dont own the movie

[fiery python]

Which is why it's better value for the average person to get hundreds of games for that 204 Euro

[limpid flicker]

You will own nothing, and be happy.

[inner arrow]

204€? It's 15€ per month isn't it?

[limpid flicker]

Sorry, replied to the wrong message there.

[cinder veldt]

Before price change perhaps?

[open oak]

Yes but its going up

[limpid flicker]

Hurry up and stockpile cheap Game Pass then?

[long maple]

as 1st party stay in Game Pass and never leave.. other games average about a year.. if you finish a game move onto the next. thats how most use Game Pass

[inner arrow]

But 12 * 15 isn't 204 it is 180

[lunar tartan]

People get mad at the stupidest things. I swear critical thinking skills just don’t exist for some

[placid gorge]

Stockpile lucozade bottles

[halcyon stratus]

I used to be fine with just a few games... like I could totally be content if I only had WoW, starcraft, diablo, destiny, and like one other thing so I'd have a few different genres to pick from.

but, boy does having 500 games make it really easy to pick and choose and try out new fun things

[cinder veldt]

Oh wait this calculation is after some imaginary high price change

[inner arrow]

So in one year you pay the price of 3 60€ games to get new games every month

[open flume]

also i pay to go to disney world and then dont own disney world. in fact, they can take away my ticket whenever they want!

[hollow hawk]

They simply don't. I sometimes wonder how some of the people I talk to daily (as school/work/whatever) possibly ever go through life
Just yesterday I had to deal with a customer who was complaining about the mobile ordering app not working
We don't manage the mobile ordering app, and this person was demanding we fix it or we give her free food, of which we can't do either after explaining this several times

[inner arrow]

When I buy food I don't own it as well. It suddenly disappears after it went in my mouth 😛

[limpid flicker]

If you've ever had someone tell you they refused a raise because of tax brackets, you know some people are just not enging their full brain.

[dull plume]

LUCOZADE

[inner arrow]

FTC really wants Spencer to slip up.

[open flume]

its not even a jury hearing so this is so strange

[hollow hawk]

If you find someone like that, call the Nobel prize committee because you just discovered something denser than a neutron star

[halcyon stratus]

The starbucks app sent my mobile order to a city an hour away one time. We coudln't figure out why it said 'ready' and none of them had made it... The local starbucks just gave me my food anyway lol.

Being polite works so much better than being mean

[inner arrow]

I'm listening to this like :

[limpid flicker]

These people exist! They believe that a raise will put them into the next tax bracket which will leave them with less money because they never learned how progressive taxation works.

[inner arrow]

WOW.... Spencer put the FTC Lawyer into his place just now lol

[cinder veldt]

”The customer is always right” is a mind set I couldn’t hold to

[hollow hawk]

This person was telling me how the app simply wasn't letting her check out and pay for an order, and rather than just explaining "hey, I was having trouble with the app, so I'll place my order here", she instead opted for "you will fix the app NOW!"

[tacit robin]

they had conversations internally too keep activation games just on xbox. Like of course they have that does not mean every single title or that they still plan do it just that they talked about it

[hollow hawk]

The customer is flat out stupid sometimes.

[limpid flicker]

That saying doesn't mean what most people think it means. "The customer is always right in matters of taste."

[lunar tartan]

Why are so many people taking this email story as 100% proof? The actions of a few don’t equal all

[halcyon stratus]

okay, but, hold on to your horse...

if the raise would put you just barely above the threshold that eliminated certain tax credits or incentives it coudl be worth it to ask to delay the raise...

Example: Electric car credits of $7,500 with a 100% phase out as soon as you make $N dollars.... so if you currently make $N-10 dollars, getting a $10 raise woudl actually cost you $7490 😉

[open flume]

its misplaced. it used to mean "The market (the customer) will dictate what the market wants." Not the company. But, like with most of society, the clay of the world took it to mean something else

insert gene wilder gif for the second time today

[inner arrow]

Minecraft Dungeon shipped on all platforms
FTC : "But you said yes to a suggestion it should only be on xbox and pc"
But... it released also on switch and ps. 🤦‍♂️ It hurts so much to listen to this at times

[halcyon stratus]

It is another 'blood is thicker than water' situation

[long maple]

not fair though I think if Sony is gonna be on video and it being heavily redacted. I bet we miss so much

[limpid flicker]

I recognise the truth in this, but it still doesn't work the way that some people think it does.

[lunar tartan]

😂 I think I know it’s exactly the one you’re talking about

[halcyon stratus]

absolutely. I'm just being difficult 😉

[hollow hawk]

That application of that phrase makes a lot more sense than giving someone free food because the app we don't manage broke

[open flume]

https://tenor.com/view/cm-punk-lies-cm-punk-tell-me-tell-me-when-im-telling-lies-not-lying-cm-punk-gif-15589622469867853792

[lunar tartan]

Someone once said “the customer is always right” to my old boss and she said back “Just not here” 😂

[tacit robin]

it is been streamed on you tube if you want too listen

[inner arrow]

Zoom is the only way to go. Everything else is illegal

[long maple]

I am listening via Zoom, I mean Jim Ryan is going to be talking later but most will be hidden

[open flume]

super weird that he wont be open for Cross

but Sarah was

[limpid flicker]

Consider: The customer wants a puce sedan with mauve interior and gilded accents? "Why of course sir."
(Its hideous)
The customer wants to buy the shoes that don't match the dress she has bought? "Of course, ma'am."
(Why do I care?)

[inner arrow]

"You wanted to do Minecraft exclusive right?"
"Yes but we didn't do it"
"But you wanted to right?"
"Yes but we didn't do it"
"But you wanted to right?"
etc etc etc

[limpid flicker]

We can quietly advise "Have you considered the tan shoes in this style?"
However, they are right when they choose the hot pink.

[hollow hawk]

I could go for hot pink shoes tbh

[halcyon stratus]

Some high end companies that let you do extreme customization will actually put their foot down if your color selection would ddamage their brand 😉

(for example, there is a $25,000 fully custom paint option available through Porsche but they have veto rights on custom colors, and on custom color+interior matches

[tired hare]

Hi all

[limpid flicker]

Depends what you're matching them with even if I were to express an opinion.

[open flume]

lambo does this, right tacti?

you cant respray their cars without approval

[limpid flicker]

What do you wanna bet that veto goes away if you have fat enough stacks?

[hollow hawk]

So you're telling me I can't have a neon orange Porsche with pink and green accents?

[cinder veldt]

Yeah, the word is used in a different way nowadays

[halcyon stratus]

it does not 😉

[inner arrow]

Now talking about Minecraft Dungeon don't have a PS5 version. Cause Sony has withheld PS5 devkits.
FTC acts like this is a case for them but it puts a case for Xbox

[limpid flicker]

I bet that wouldn't hold up in court. The doctrine of first sale still exists.

[open flume]

you sign a clause

ez

[inner arrow]

Lol... FTC dude doesn't even know how BC works

[halcyon stratus]

correct.
i'm trying to remember.... but either lambo or ferrari (I think it is ferrari?) you don't actually technically even own your car. You have a perpetual use license. They still can reboke it if you try to resell it, do somethign they don't like, etc

[open flume]

i think one of them also prohibit the resell of a car

yeah

without approval

[halcyon stratus]

and that's why you don't actually "buy" it 😉

[open flume]

its like game pass!!!

[limpid flicker]

You don't buy a Lambo? What do they, only lease?

[hollow hawk]

I remember looking at PS5 leaks and seeing those weird looking consoles with the "V" shape inset to them, those were fun to see
(Unrelated but yea)

[astral saffron]

Apparently were going out out tonight. I need a power nap before I do this

[lunar tartan]

Shhh the kids will here you and awaken from their slumber

[open flume]

you purchase the right to drive it

essentially

[lunar tartan]

Sorry penguin for pinging you

[tacit robin]

its all based on "you talked about this i.e. keeping this game on xbox on this date didn't you? Phil yes but we didn't do that. FTC Xbox is going too move call of duty and other acti games to xbox only

[limpid flicker]

No I saw the post now. Well, that's... not a contract I think anyone should enter into.

[open flume]

youre fine! 🙂

[halcyon stratus]

The Porsche situation ismore liek what you're thinking Sol.
They can refuse to mix your custom paint, and they can refuse to sell you the tan interior on the neon green car. But, once oyu own it you can wrap it or paint it or put seat covers on or even buy replacement official seats in the random color

[hollow hawk]

Where can I watch this case unfold for myself?

[limpid flicker]

Personally I'd pass on the car with that deal and move on to the next. Always another fast car.

[inner arrow]

They go with what has been said but not what has been done. As well as Sony giving the blame for the bad version of Minecraft Dungeons. It's just stupid ngl

[limpid flicker]

Yse, that's exactly what I imagined. Although I bet it would be fun to be refused official service by a licensed Porche autoshop because you did something unthinkable to the colours.

[inner arrow]

Also Spencer should point out that Minecraft Dungeon was in PS+. Especially in the topic rn

[tacit robin]

100%

[open flume]

the right to refuse service to anyone!

[limpid flicker]

Am I correct in recalling that Ferrari only have a very limited range of factory finishes?

[vocal gorge]

I only had to listen in to the laywer talking for about a minute or so and couldn't stand the questions being asked... What has most, if not any of what has been said really got to do with the pending acquisition of ABK and all the conditions surrounding that? I'm even drawing a blank face at what was being said...

[tired hare]

Any news about age of Empire 4 Xbox coming Time?

[tacit robin]

they really pushing Phil on Minecraft and PS5 upgrade

[inner arrow]

They now talking Nintendo.

[inner arrow]

Minecraft was on PS+ multiple times. Just not "PS Now"

[limpid flicker]

And you know, I do think that's a right they have. It's fair. If I screw around inside my Macbook, Apple will tell me to hit the damn road if I take it to their repair shop.

[long maple]

trying to give a baseline or make Phil slip up to try and say that Xbox could keep ABK off other platforms, but Phil is doing a great job, Sub

[limpid flicker]

Apple's policy could not be more clear "If you gotta mess with it, mess with it... however we will never look at it again."

[tacit robin]

coming this fall

[inner arrow]

Exactly. Also is it okay to ping you when I don't read you here to start a convo about what is being said in the hearing? 😅

[tired hare]

Thanks Paul

[long maple]

yeah sure lol

[inner arrow]

FTC lawyer is slipping up a lot of times.

[vocal gorge]

sneaky, I'd hate to be in a situation like that tbh but it did sound like Phil was holding strong so keep it up!

[final coral]

Can I post a link? To a ftc court where no one is talking

[inner arrow]

https://twitter.com/StarfieldGame/status/1672258289604734978

Starfield (@StarfieldGame)

🛋 Create a cozy oasis by furnishing and decorating the interiors of your outpost modules.

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Twitter · Jun 23, 2023, 3:00 PM

[open flume]

if you ever needed a reminder that these old geezers have no idea how technology works:
FTC wanted to know from Phil Spencer in a deposition whether CoD on Switch would look the same as on Xbox, and (unsurprisingly) the answer was it would not look the same.

[inner arrow]

FTC : "Did you do market analysis of the impact of COD on switch?"
But... why?

[open flume]

lolol

[halcyon stratus]

but why don't you get a Space Moped or a Moon Buggy or something? arg

[inner arrow]

Worst was before "Do you agree that... Nintendo has less.... reads the paper Tiiraflops?"

[open flume]

ah yes

those TIER uh flops

[long maple]

yeah nearly lunch time for them soon

I can go rush and make my dinner

[inner arrow]

"COD isn't 240fps 8k on Switch! YOU LIAR"

[halcyon stratus]

he knows as much about teraflops as most of the people who argue about them on twitter do...

[final coral]

Meanwhile tear of kingdom looks bad and is critically acclaimed

[open flume]

[open flume]

or those that argue about fps here

[fiery python]

[vocal gorge]

tbh, I'd say the twitter teraflops crowd are still worse of the two 😄

[inner arrow]

Game not coming to switch FTC : 😐
Game coming to switch but looks ugly FTC : 🤬

[final coral]

What about nintendos next console

[compact moat]

😎

[final coral]

And how come Nintendo are not a witness when there’s a stadia one

[halcyon stratus]

oh whose talking about stadia?

[tacit robin]

FTC

[vocal gorge]

isn't Stadia dead?

[final coral]

One of the witnesses speaking today is someone who ran stadia

[halcyon stratus]

you don't happen to remember the name do you? iu guess i can look it up in a bit

[inner arrow]

Damn... FTC examining Spencer is now going for over an hour. And it went nowhere so far

[halcyon stratus]

it got googled

[long maple]

yeah some people from Google Stadia are apparently talking today, but with this ending at 3pm I dont even know if there is time for the other people with how long this is going lol

[halcyon stratus]

https://killedbygoogle.com/

there are things on that list that I never even heard of ha ha

[tacit robin]

Maybe Phil Harrison

[inner arrow]

Man I don't even know what this Lawyer is trying to do but I feel bad for the Judge. She must be bored

[open flume]

i just discovered Google CURRENTS today, tacti

[long maple]

FTC Day 2 we will hear from...

Jim Ryan (Video - PS - Heavily Redacted)
Phil Spencer (Xbox)
Jamie Lawver (Xbox)
Dov Zimring (Stadia)

Jamie Lawver was at the start for 45mins

[inner arrow]

Jamie is done already. Spencer is on right now for like the past 2 hours or so.

[tacit robin]

they are leading up to the point that Starfield and Redfall were in for PS then when they brought them they made them just for xbox even though they said there IPs will be on PS

[inner arrow]

https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1672308151071420417

John Linneman (@dark1x)

Does Series X|S have an actual optimized version? I can't find anything suggesting that a proper Series X|S version was released making this argument over lack of a native PS5 version extra weird.

Twitter · Jun 23, 2023, 6:18 PM

[halcyon stratus]

the whole workspace/gsuite/etc world is a fiasco

[open flume]

it. really. is.

[tacit robin]

there invalid point was Dungeons not Minecraft itself. Dungeons is optimised for Series but not PS5 thats what they saying.

[obsidian kayak]

It’s not optimized for series

[halcyon stratus]

Dungeons isn't on mac either :shakes fist:

[inner arrow]

The lawyer mentioned Minecraft as well.

[tacit robin]

yeah they did but the point on parity was dungeon's

[inner arrow]

Starfield coming to Xbox is thanks to Xbox buying Bethesda. Otherwise it would have been a PS5 exclusive.

[obsidian kayak]

There was a build that got accidentally released on the insider hub that actually was optimized for series and supported the ray tracing but it got pulled

[inner arrow]

And seeing how Sony wouldn't have been okay with over a full year delay for the game I am happy that Xbox got Starfield

[obsidian kayak]

That was awhile ago

[halcyon stratus]

that doesn't help me run it on my laptop

[obsidian kayak]

lol

[inner arrow]

Also lawyer earlier : "F76 is one of your Forza titles right?"
🤣

[obsidian kayak]

Xcloud

[inner arrow]

Also this FTC Lawyer is not getting anywhere and he is already over an hour into questioning Spencer.

[versed swan]

embarrassing

[cinder veldt]

For xbox?

Oh wait I didn’t read, nvm me

Guess it was around when the test build for pc also was put out

[tired hare]

they have ciri and yennefer in fortnite

[inner arrow]

Oh man... FTC is finally getting to it's "BIG GOTCHA" moment....

[vocal gorge]

many hours later... 😄

[inner arrow]

"Elder scrolls will not release on ps5 right?"
"It is many many years away so we can't announce any platforms yet"
"But it's not coming to PS5 right?"
"It is so far away we can't say which platforms it will launch on"
"But it's not coming to PS5 right?"
Bruh... get the hint man

Spencer does it right. FTC tries to blame Xbox as the baddie but Spencer always mentions that Sony does the same with acquiring exclusives.
FTC argues Indiana Jones being exclusive is bad. Spencer said it's to counter Spiderman which is also a Disney owned IP exclusive to PS.

[vocal gorge]

the judge is probably snoring. I know I would be and that's just from the updates I'm getting from here and the short time I listened to. Are these real lawyers? 🙄

[long maple]

he is getting nowhere trying to find a small hole in his evidence, it is dragging alittle

[inner arrow]

The FTC lawyer goes a lot through evidence but it's just... bad. Going through emails where Microsoft says "Yes" But then actions go against that... He isn't good.

Spencer said in an email to the question "We should make Minecraft dungeons exclusive to xbox" with Yes.... But it still released on Ps

[small mantle]

Do any one have the link for today hearing?

[inner arrow]

Bruh... lol
"Would you pay developers to make a game worse on competitor platforms?"
lol

[long maple]

likely full up Zoom only allows 1000 people for Audio

ah its Microsoft lawyer now I think, finally someone else

[tacit robin]

the whole public thing making E6 just for xbox Phil as not said that to what i know even though there saying he did

[inner arrow]

Yes Paul... Finally. I am so glad to hear a different voice

[tired hare]

heheha

[inner arrow]

He did not. They are probably claiming an article from some fanboy or something

[long maple]

Judge asked about an early lunch or carry on

[inner arrow]

They could not even say if it's releasing on xbox series x rn cause the game could maybe skip a whole generation

[tacit robin]

the stream i watching is bit behind you. People talking over it too

[inner arrow]

Judge asking about Halo not coming to PS

Spencer : "We are a significant disadvantage at quality and quantity of exclusives which is the deciding factor for a console"

[worldly depot]

Omg 3pm on a Friday at work is purgatory

[tulip patio]

Next they are gonna ask why is minecraft not exclusive to playstation imagine 😂

[inner arrow]

WOW... Spencer tells the Judge that Sony delays PC titles hahahaha

[green laurel]

If halo goes to PS then we get last of spiderman uncharted right

[vocal gorge]

probably not

[inner arrow]

That's what Spencer said... Making it release on PS would give Xbox even less of an advantage

[vocal gorge]

PC titles are being delayed though, pretty sure even Sony confirmed that themselves releasing up to 3 years after the initial console release

[tired hare]

I love XBOX

[halcyon stratus]

if halo goes to ps5 then we get twice as many angry people ranting about halo on twitter!

[green laurel]

Lol

[hollow hawk]

Has anyone else here ever gotten an official chat from Xbox about having enough points for obtaining a gift card? I didn't think they did that

[vocal gorge]

gimme Spiderman 2 on PC day one, Sony! 🙎‍♂️

[inner arrow]

Spencer about COD : COD will continue release on PS unless Sony disallows it

[green laurel]

K can we all go home now

[inner arrow]

Right? lol

[fiery python]

Far too many.

[hollow hawk]

noted

[halcyon stratus]

yes, they do it all the time

[final coral]

The judge just said “when you acquire cod”
Not “if you acquire cod”

[limpid flicker]

Don't read into that.

[final coral]

To me that sounds like she’s leaning into ms a little anyway

[inner arrow]

Judge asks him to testify to release further COD titles on PS
He just did. Ready for lunch now lol

[limpid flicker]

Doom, do you remember much about the bit of Yakuza I'm playing? Cause I got these hunting missions and I'm not quite sure how to turn them in when I have enough stuff.

[long maple]

meh Mr Ryan is a closed session

[inner arrow]

Of course he is closed session. Cause he knows he would be publicly humiliated

[long maple]

I think after today Xbox gets what they want anyway

[inner arrow]

Also... He testified that future COD titles will release on PS5.
Not PS6

https://tenor.com/view/deez-ha-got-heem-got-em-got-him-gif-4824899

[final coral]

Call of duty 2030 coming to ps5 instead of ps7

[inner arrow]

Spencer swearing under oath was a big win for Xbox. That alone will lead to a clear shut case imo

[stoic blaze]

whats up everyone

[tacit robin]

yeah the sony fans in the stream RN

[final coral]

That destroys ftc console harm now and basically make all the time they asked about exclusives pointless.
Now just the cloud gaming but

[inner arrow]

FTC had 3 hours for cloud. But slipped multiple times. They don't have a chance about that anymore I think

[stoic blaze]

can anyone tell me the minutes of what happened till now during the court hearing?

[tacit robin]

well the judge as more questions for phil and the MS lawyer at the end said she was done but then said she wasn't

[inner arrow]

They tried earlier with "You want people to go away from xbox with gamepass right?"
Spencer said "Well to the preferred platform of their choice"
They wanted him to admit that cloud is the future and that he is the evil dude who will force everyone to go cloud but failed hard

[quasi echo]

They better have fun with a bo3 ps3 level port of cod 2030 on ps5 XD

[inner arrow]

As spencer said tho... Not releasing the newest version on the newest ps console for COD would cause harm to the xbox brand,

[tacit robin]

you want us too type out 3 plus hours of minutes 😆 It all be online at the end of the court day

[long maple]

just go look at Florians tweets he is in the courtroom

[stoic blaze]

I mean just the important parts 😅

[stoic blaze]

alright

[tacit robin]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren

[long maple]

or there, loads been following they get tons of views

[quasi echo]

Bro the ftc lawyer was seen walking out of the courthouse with a ps5

[inner arrow]

Starfield was supposed to be PS5 exclusive. COD could have been PS exclusive. Xbox had to pay more or acquire Bethesda to get those titles at all. FTC were not really good at asking their questions and their "Gotcha" moment was quickly deescalated by Spencer by going further on the details of exclusivity. Ended with an oath to release further COD titles on PS.
That's a very quick summary

[long maple]

gonna need to play a game to de-stress after what Phil told him 😄

[quasi echo]

I recommend halo 2 laso to destress

[tacit robin]

i could only find one on you tube and its a PS fan channel and they talking over it.

[inner arrow]

The oath was questioned by the judge herself. So yeah... huge points for Xbox today so far

[inner arrow]

My advice is reporting the stream. It's illegal to stream it.

[wintry sandal]

just preordered starfield premium edition

well I just read the room and realized that might have been a sour message currently

[inner arrow]

Not a sour message. Congrats.

[tacit robin]

that would ruin my enjoyment when you tube does a takedown. But i think your okay with just audio

its open court

[inner arrow]

The thing is it's illegal to stream it on any other platforms than the official zoom call. You are supporting criminals rn

[vocal gorge]

Starfield is going to be amazing! Really can't wait for it

[inner arrow]

Even says so in the Zoom call that any streaming is absolutely prohibited

[final coral]

https://twitter.com/jaywood2010/status/1672301177357123602?s=46&t=IlHI2rcPl5w0xQyL090_dw

JayWood2010 (@JayWood2010)

The FTC: "If you own Activision, you don't have to pay extra to keep Call of Duty on Xbox"

Phil Spencer: "Uhm, we pay for salaries"

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Twitter · Jun 23, 2023, 5:50 PM

[stoic blaze]

that's a way to put it

[inner arrow]

"F76 is one of dem Forza titles right?"

[upbeat void]

dude

[inner arrow]

"Yes your honor. We released 76 Forza titles since 2005"

[upbeat void]

its asking me to pay 10 dollars to change my gamer tag

[final coral]

If I were streaming it (I’m not just watching someone) what are they gonna do? Extradite a U.K citizen 😂

I thought it was free now

[upbeat void]

someone please help me out i dont have that kind of money

[inner arrow]

So Xbox would have had released 4.2 titles per year

[limpid flicker]

Well you know, there is a rule against illegal content here, but you do you.

[astral falcon]

no begging

[upbeat void]

💀

what a corn ball im not begging im asking the "xbox" server if there is any way to fix this

[inner arrow]

It's still illegal and prosecution can still happen between countries and you could get a heavy fine

[astral falcon]

yes, pay the money

[limpid flicker]

I would fix that problem with money.

[upbeat void]

this is normal?

[astral falcon]

yes

[inner arrow]

And you just openly in public admitted to said crime. Not a clever idea

[astral falcon]

it's been like that forever

[upbeat void]

paying 10 dollars to change my gamer tag

[quasi echo]

geez. He would've gotten it... eventually

[stoic blaze]

its like that on a lot of platforms not just xbox

[upbeat void]

my gamer tag clearly says my name MY ACTUAL REAL LIFE NAME

[limpid flicker]

There are rare circumstances in which you get a free change, but if you want one when they aren't offering one... pay the money.

[stoic blaze]

you only get to change it once for free I think

[upbeat void]

i dont remember setting my game username to my actual name

[limpid flicker]

I believe it's when they have changed the overall naming system, everyone gets one.

[upbeat void]

i signed up and it just created a new one and when i realized it showed ,my actual name i wanted to change it but i cant

[stoic blaze]

because when I created my xbox account it gave me a random username and I had to change it to what I wanted and it was free the 1st time

[quasi echo]

so you'll have to either contact support or pay

[alpine bobcat]

😂

[limpid flicker]

Yep, free changes are rare and precious.

[astral falcon]

keep your comments about mods to yourself. If you have an issue with how we do things you can DM @lyric minnow

[quasi echo]

mk

[stoic blaze]

launch break

[final coral]

Man i should of brought abk stock

[upbeat void]

do you get paid by any chance?

[astral falcon]

no

[final coral]

It just spiked after the last 30 mins from phills testimony

[quasi echo]

mk enough

[stoic blaze]

its never too late to buy stock.. most of the time..

[upbeat void]

💀 no reason to be acting like this then. why u being so toxic bruh i just wana change my gamer tag to something that isnt my irl name

[astral falcon]

How is it toxic to tell you exactly how to do what you want?

[inner arrow]

FTC tried 3 hours to show that Xbox has an incentive to make cod exclusive
Judge : "Do you pinky promise to continue making COD for PS?"
Spencer : "Yes"

[final coral]

Yeah wallstreets bets tell me that if I buy it and not sell it’s going to the moon

[upbeat void]

had a stroke reading that but what if i get doxed or something

[halcyon stratus]

by the time the merge announcement was made it was too late for an atvi stock purchase to make sense. the boost from teh then-current sale price to the acquisition per share price isn't enough to offset the short term capital gain tax.

You'd be better served just either buying a random other stock or just microsoft stock directly.

At this point (and for the past year) a purchase of ATVI is just a proxy purchase of a microsoft long-term-hold share

[quasi echo]

dude stop

[fiery python]

Then pay to change the name that YOU chose.

[quasi echo]

or Go a different route and change ur irl name.

[upbeat void]

isnt the 1st rule of the internet to never share personal info. It seems like xbox changed it without my permission

[final coral]

I thought it was free but maybe the first name change is free

[fiery python]

You are the one who set the name

[halcyon stratus]

$10 to prevent being doxed seems worth it if that is the kind of thing oyu're worried about

[upbeat void]

im litrarlly still in high school

[lime sequoia]

where the ears

[quasi echo]

oh

[halcyon stratus]

no ears just snoot

[upbeat void]

You're right but i have 0 source of income unlike some of u adults here

[fiery python]

@upbeat void Time to move on from the topic now. You have your solution. It's up to you to deal with it.

[final coral]

Just make a second account on your Xbox and use the same home Xbox so you have all the game

[halcyon stratus]

that's terrible advice. multiple accounts always ends in tears.

[upbeat void]

this is the reason play station is better bruh

[final coral]

Idk I never use them myself

[fiery python]

PS is better because you can't read or remember what you're doing?

[quasi echo]

playstation does the same thing

[wind adder]

"but broo ps never needed CoD"

[final coral]

You get a free change.
If you don’t like the name that you changed it to why are you complaining

[inner arrow]

I mean... If Ryan is petty he will not accept COD on PS. That might be a possibility

[kindred zephyr]

used to be Microsoft Points very og

[halcyon stratus]

I strongly suggest looking up what happens if you change your name on playstation.

There are literally some scenarios where you lose your game saves lmao

[fiery python]

They can't see chat

[quasi echo]

why

[final coral]

Plays gta wasted sound affect

[quasi echo]

what is the mime role?

[inner arrow]

I think if Ryan wants to harm Xbox the most after this acquisition... I think refusing COD on PS platforms might be an option

[fiery python]

It means they're muted

[kindred zephyr]

it was 100 points to change gamertags i think back then before points were removed

[quasi echo]

welp. F around and find out ig

[final coral]

Microsoft point we’re amazing! You could actually buy dlc and know what you we’re getting such as cod map packs

[fiery python]

They were the worst

[final coral]

Yeah they suck but you actually knew what you were getting

[halcyon stratus]

microsoft points? i have no memory of them not just being dollars

[fiery python]

I know what I'm getting with money too

[kindred zephyr]

That was 360 times

[sage ice]

points were early 360 days. Converted to money is much better

[kindred zephyr]

early 2012

[halcyon stratus]

points are horrible. and companies know it....
that's how I ended up buying $200 in cosmetics for diablo in 5 minutes lmao

"arbitrary willy nilly number? whatever, ytolo"

[quasi echo]

I blew all mine on sweepstake entries that i never win lol

[vivid jackal]

anyone else think minecraft bedrock should get more attention then java

[halcyon stratus]

no

[fiery python]

Not those microsoft points

[vivid jackal]

ok

[kindred zephyr]

no the og points

[final coral]

It was 1200 points for 12 year olds me to buy call of duty black ops maps.
Great times

[quasi echo]

I didnt pay attention to 360 ones

[kindred zephyr]

yeah and the old dashboard

do people still sell 360's with old dashboards so you can go back to the og days of gaming?

[sage ice]

that would be kinda pointless

you dont see the dashboard when you are playing the game.

[kindred zephyr]

i wanted to see an old dashboard just for fun

[hollow hawk]

The ability to spend Microsoft points to change a gamertag would be awesome tbh

[fiery python]

Google Images will let you see them

[fiery python]

Redeem reward points for a gift card. Spend the balance on the name change.

[hollow hawk]

Oh! I never realized you could use a gift card for it

[quasi echo]

I used a gift card on Vbucks for no reason

[tired hare]

GUYS GUESS WHAT

I GOT A PULLED FOR A JOB INTRTVIEW pending date

[short mantle]

Nice, congrats

[winter forum]

Wasn't it like £20 for 2400 points or something? I remember buying the cards in Woolworths (RIP)

Indie games were 400?

[fiery python]

I don't remember how much they cost. I just remember that you could pretty much never buy anything for the amount of the cards so you either needed to buy extra, or had some left over to tempt you to spend again.

[winter forum]

Oh I absolutely remember having useless change

[short mantle]

MS points were a pain in the butt.

[winter forum]

"here's 60 points"
And....yup, I'll buy an avatar hat

[fiery python]

Same tricks used by virtual currencies in games now like vbucks

[tired hare]

I actually don't remember this because when I got cards I useally got call of duty dlcs as a kid

[short mantle]

Destiny 2 does it too

[winter forum]

Rhinne and I are just old fogies 👍🏻

[fiery python]

Pretty much every single game with a currency does it.

[tired hare]

Ya i remember Ms points but i don't quite remember the useless change

[long maple]

I always had some leftover and not enough to buy something for my avatar

[short mantle]

I remember 1600 costing $10, 2400 was $20.

[winter forum]

PSN wasn't much better, I remember you had to load a wallet with round numbers then use that to buy stuff, basically the same problem only now you have like 3p left in your wallet

[quasi echo]

Geezers?

[winter forum]

I was being a little more inclusive

[short mantle]

I am excited about the Xbox store getting re-added to the app. I used it a lot before it got taken down.

[stoic blaze]

the mobile app?

[winter forum]

Don't lie

[short mantle]

Yes, the mobile app.

[quasi echo]

what is it with people and randomly accusing others of lying on here

[tired hare]

can anyone help me #1091756150644555946

[fiery python]

Someone will help if/when they can.

[tired hare]

i really want to play

have you guys noticed how ea and activision stopped making separate versions of their games?

[quasi echo]

ping me ill see what it is

[fiery python]

No, keep support in #1091756150644555946 @quasi echo

[quasi echo]

i meant to ping me in the support thread

i cant find his thread which is why im asking for a ping

[short mantle]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/20/23648112/microsoft-xbox-mobile-store-2024-launch

[winter forum]

It was more of a ghasp don't even joke

[fiery python]

That's not the same as adding the console store back to the app

[tacit robin]

separate versions? series and one you mean yeah last gen will start to be faded out now thats not anything new

[zealous moat]

if i wanted to become a content creator what games are best to post on tiktok that will make viewers intrested and wnana follow?

[fiery python]

Check which the most streamed games are on twitch

[tired hare]

like there is just one version of madden 24 instead of a series and xbox one version

[short mantle]

As long as I’ll be able to purchase games through the app, I’ll be happy.

[cinder veldt]

Clickbait /s

[tacit robin]

yep normal

[tired hare]

play games you enjoy

[long maple]

yep PGA Tour was the same Series only

[winter forum]

The upcoming Xbox mobile store would also allow developers to run their own app stores within Microsoft’s Xbox mobile platform.

Wcgw

[fiery python]

From that article it sounds like an alternate app store for their mobile titles. So they get a bigger cut of profits from the mobile games.

[quasi echo]

Twitch is horrible for new creators

[fiery python]

I never said to stream on twitch though

[quasi echo]

ah mk

[long maple]

not sure where you looking about Madden 24 there is a bundle for Series and One for like 99.99 and a limited time bonus

[tacit robin]

i think google and apple will have something too say- That be the next FTC thing

[winter forum]

This. Like a supplemental app store

[fiery python]

It's already been approved by the EU

[tired hare]

madden 24 comes with both versions in the 70 dollar one

[winter forum]

glares at Samsung because that's worked so well for them

[long maple]

yeah its just them streamlining things when they finally drop the Xbox One

[winter forum]

Operation fence paint has been a success. Just have to put 6 panels back and I'm back to ignoring the neighbours

[zealous moat]

probs wont be populsr

[tired hare]

well if you play games that just because they’re popular but you don’t enjoy them then you’re not gonna like what you do

[winter forum]

Most prolific streamers are entertaining to watch. Doesn't really matter about the game. I watch this channel on YouTube and I have almost 0 investment in the topics, but his delivery keep my attention

"drum time". I have the musical capability of an out of tune triangle, but I'll listen to him ramble on about high-hats and toms for 10 minutes

[silk mountain]

Aren't popular games popular for a reason though? /sarcasm

[inner arrow]

Oh... They are back

[fiery python]

Playing games just because they are popular leads to you hating what you do and not being an engaging streamer.

[winter forum]

Nothing? Nothing for out of tune triangle. ☹️

[silk mountain]

Oh you're talking about streaming

[inner arrow]

Btw The Constellation Edition of Starfield is available again on Amazon

[silk mountain]

Personally I can't stand games like fortnite, although minecraft isn't too bad

[cinder veldt]

I like Fortnite but tend to take mixed breaks

[winter forum]

Overwatch grinds my gears, but I can't really elaborate on that without being a humongous Richard

[silk mountain]

Overwatch is fun for me I just avoid ranked

[zealous moat]

i need a good profiel picture

[lilac chasm]

bro what am I gonna do I have an Xbox one

[quasi echo]

dont you mean a first robin

[fiery python]

Play games?

[cinder veldt]

I have such mixed experiences with overwatch

[winter forum]

Chris O'Donnell?

[winter forum]

I haven't even played it and only have negative

[cinder veldt]

How can you have bad experience with something you haven't experienced

[winter forum]

Well I said I wouldn't elaborate so just leave it there yeah 👍🏻

[cinder veldt]

Okay

[winter forum]

I've considered streaming but it's mostly me failing really really well and just repeating "that's not gone well" until I fail upwards

[gloomy ravine]

what

[cinder veldt]

Rome wasn't built in a day

[winter forum]

I don't have a very positive energy that's pretty much required. Most of the time I play pretty much silently. It would be really quite dull

[wispy sun]

i am not built to be a streamer if i was a streamer it would be so awkward i would just be sitting there playing the game and not reading chat or being funny

[lilac chasm]

same bro

[sand moth]

So the price increase is finally happening? Gotta admit it's not as high as I expected. I thought they'd hop the price up $2 or so.

Kind of surprises me that it's happening soon. Figured it wouldn't be announced until after the merger was denied or passed

[light panther]

So what happens to all the game pass cards?

[winter forum]

It's been discussed about 8 times today

[inner arrow]

After the showcase was the right time to do it. People know what is now coming to xbox and are all excited so upping the price now seems like a good time

[cinder veldt]

The price goes up?

[light panther]

so they're getting recalled?

[winter forum]

Spoilers man!!!

[long maple]

yep and during the merger they have said somewhere they werent going to increase prices so was running out of time anyway

[inner arrow]

No Spencer will now go into every store and strike out the price and write a new one on every card 😛

[short mantle]

It is going up. With the amount of content on and getting added to Game Pass, $2 is fairly reasonable imo

[light panther]

thanks dude, happy to be provided an answer by an official MS Employee

[winter forum]

Have to pay court fees somehow

[sand moth]

🤔 Perhaps, perhaps

Personally I have been called crazy for even suggesting that MS would increase the price before. As if it wasn't obvious, it's just how subscriptions work. All subs go up over time.

[inner arrow]

Jokes aside : I am sure the ones with the price printed on them will get recalled. Every other card will most likely just stay with a changed price at the buying station

[short mantle]

If and when the Activision/Blizzard purchase goes through, it could go up again.

[stoic blaze]

probably not

[inner arrow]

I don't think it will happen straight away. Probably when the first COD goes Gamepass Day 1 which might only happens in 2024 or 2025

[short mantle]

It'll definitely happen. Maybe not right away, but it will. They have to recoup that money somehow.

[sand moth]

Possibly, but not immediately considering they just announced an increase. Subscription prices are fickle things.

You have to strike a balance between the price and the perceived value of your subscription. Raise it without enough to justify it you'll lose subscriptions.

[stoic blaze]

its just 69billion

[short mantle]

Chump change /s

[inner arrow]

The money can be recouped quite quickly by just doing a few CODs at full price and not Gamepass straigth away. As well as using Zynga for the mobile income.

[graceful junco]

Has anyone else experienced Microsoft Rewards on Xbox? For me, it's slow and buggy, and I'm on Xbox Series X.

[short mantle]

Works fine for me.

[stoic blaze]

what is zynga 🤔

[long maple]

Zynga, you mean King lol

[inner arrow]

And since COD will still net in a lot of MTX I am pretty sure they can recoup it with that as well. And yes Paul I meant King 😅

[long maple]

Microsoft was trying to buy Zynga at one point though

[inner arrow]

Heard Zynga too much yesterday haha

[cinder veldt]

Is there even ones with the price written

[sand moth]

A lot of people have several subscriptions and you don't want to incentivise them to cut yours

[long maple]

Phil Spencer is talking about it

[tacit robin]

Zynga is a mobile gaming company in the us

[sand moth]

I am actually thinking of cutting a subscription or two myself

[inner arrow]

King makes a lot of money per quarter. So if they reach 1 billion dollar per quarter... it would take 70 quarters to get the money back from buying Activision Blizzard King

[limpid flicker]

Do people still crush candies, or does King have something new?

[inner arrow]

Do you need to ask? 😛

[winter forum]

18 years?

[cinder veldt]

Still people crushing candies

[limpid flicker]

Pretty wild.I know that I'm not the one who 'counts' but I got mored of that real fast.

[light panther]

If the deal goes through how many possible BC game could we get?

How would licensing work with Activision?

[winter forum]

As many as MS want to fund, one would think

Business risk analysis etc

[limpid flicker]

Don't count any unhatched chickens. The BC program is ended.

[inner arrow]

Licensing would work just as like with Activision. Phil will push for more BC titles that's for sure. Also for bringing older games back or remaster them. Day 1 Activision games as much as possible as well.

[winter forum]

I like counting my eggs. And it's good practice to do so before you pay for them

[inner arrow]

Because of licensing. Buying Activision means they have new licenses so they can go through new titles.

[cinder veldt]

Imagine they player count on old cod games if GP, too bad MM is broken 😆 (theory think)

[obtuse dawn]

Yo

anyone wanna xbox gift card cuz i dont want it anymore

[rancid snow]

Hello everyone

[obtuse dawn]

or is it against rules

[winter forum]

Against the rules

[fiery python]

It's not against the rules if you're giving it away with no strings attached.

[limpid flicker]

Against rules to sell or trade. Allowed to give for free.

[obtuse dawn]

ok mb

[winter forum]

Me back in my box again

[tired hare]

What's bc

[fiery python]

Gifts are fine. As long as you're not selling, trading or asking people to do something.

[limpid flicker]

Listen to the folks in blue, not us lot in the peanut gallery. 😉

[winter forum]

Back compat

[inner arrow]

Interesting... Microsoft wants to put it's own App store on mobile

[quasi echo]

sure unless someone else got it

[fiery python]

Probably best you let people who have been here more than a week answer questions about the server rules.

[tired hare]

I mean ill take free money

[wispy sun]

yo me pls

[obtuse dawn]

its not free thats the problem

[fiery python]

Then it is against the rules.

[weary solar]

#rules 💵 13. No buying, selling, or trading items/codes on the server. Do not ask for codes, handouts, or freebies either.

[wispy sun]

i just got an xbox and i really want gamepass oh nvm

[obtuse dawn]

am not gonna sell since its against rules

[winter forum]

This got linked earlier

[wispy sun]

wait so is it free or not?

[obtuse dawn]

so nvm

[inner arrow]

I think this is the first time they are talking about this in this hearing

[short mantle]

Phil also said he’s open to other studios working on Microsoft IP’s. Halo being developed by Sledgehammer or Treyarch could be cool.

[quasi echo]

ur responses are gold.

[obtuse dawn]

no its not free

[wispy sun]

zamn ok

[obtuse dawn]

yh sry

[lilac chasm]

why

[tacit robin]

MS lawyer is good

[tired hare]

Did Mr cry over cod come on stage yet

[inner arrow]

Treyarch working on Halo

[tacit robin]

there talking about Apple and google blocking the xbox app and letting them sell games on mobile but how Candy crush and COD mobile is allowed

[light panther]

Train go BOOOM!

[short mantle]

Paul Ryan didn’t attend the hearing. The FTC did play a pre-recorded message in court though

[inner arrow]

Not yet tho. Ryan will be after Spencer.

[trail harness]

Outcome? Train go boom.

[quasi echo]

I said a boom chicka boom

[tacit robin]

yeah Ryan is pre record

[fiery python]

Because he knows they're losing and doesn't want to get put on the spot.

[short mantle]

He originally wasn’t against the idea based on an email he sent. He said he didn’t have an issue with MS purchasing Activision/Blizzard and that he wasn’t worried. I wonder what changed lol

[quasi echo]

A ps5 from sony

[inner arrow]

Nah. The first thing he said is that he wanted to destroy the acquisition. But then said that Sony will be okay no matter what happens.

[fiery python]

For something like this he should be required to be there, or live.

[inner arrow]

https://twitter.com/lulumeservey/status/1672002247918485504?cxt=HHwWgICwrfLLkrQuAAAA

Lulu Cheng Meservey (@lulumeservey)

Actually, per Jim's email:

"It’s not an Xbox exclusivity play at all...
I’m pretty sure we will continue to see COD on PS for many years to come...
I’m not complacent and I’d rather this hadn’t happened, but we’ll be OK, more than OK."

https://t.co/NoWwi9OlUK

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[long maple]

yeah especially has how many times Sony name got brought up today

[short mantle]

The email got presented as evidence with him saying what I posted.

[tacit robin]

The email wasnt quite that wording Louie

but yes

[inner arrow]

It's the direct competitor. The fact the public can't hear it and that it was just recorded is a bit of a bad pr imo.

[short mantle]

I paraphrased

[tacit robin]

it was along the lines of that Microsoft aim with Actv isnt exclusive games like cod and too pull games. Its much bigger than that he never said that he was okay with the deal

[tired hare]

I wonder how many times cod was said

[winter forum]

More than haddock I'd wager

[inner arrow]

OH BOY. Juicy part rn

Talking about direct conversation about COD on PS after the announcement of the acquisition

[tired hare]

What's happening OwO

[long maple]

Yeah I remember the tweet last year too

[inner arrow]

Spencer talks about Yoshida and Ryan now

[winter forum]

Are the mods on an agreed rotation for time? Like are there set "shifts" / agreed hours?

[tired hare]

Oooo

[fiery python]

Nope

[tired hare]

why cant i contact xbox, it just says i can contact them about this topic bro what

[merry palm]

Sometimes the mods sleep.

this does not follow timezones as far as i can tell

looking at rhinne /hj

[inner arrow]

https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3766793/shin-kamen-rider-prime-video-global-release-summer-2023/ Noice!

[winter forum]

I just thought there might be enough of a timezone spread for it to always be "manned"

[warped pendant]

sleep? what's that?

[merry palm]

i mean.. sort of. but we all have lives too lol

this is a volunteer gig. and irl comes first

[tired hare]

nobody knows how to help me

[merry palm]

ok?

[winter forum]

Thanks for the responses

[merry palm]

yeah

also sometimes we take breaks bc the internet

its a lot some days haha

[winter forum]

I did think that at times

[fiery python]

I'm more active here during my work hours because I'm at the computer for things, so I can keep a closer eye on Discord. When I'm gaming in the evenings with Lucy I will chat less.

[quasi echo]

Have you ever laughed because you had to ban someone but what they did was hilarious

[merry palm]

yes

laugh or cry. these are the options

[winter forum]

"you fool...lol...bonk"

[iron veldt]

Does anyone here speak Cham

[quasi echo]

I used to Mod for a discord but got fired for organizing a server wide April fools prank by having 10 members of each role Sing billy of tea in every chat

[merry palm]

most of the things people get banned for in here arent funny

[tired hare]

What they do?

[quasi echo]

ah yes. ive seen way too many ban speedruns

[merry palm]

mmm i say the most common thing is being a jerk to people

[winter forum]

No one laughed at my triangle joke and now I'm sad

[tired hare]

[merry palm]

not following mod directions and then being rude

[fiery python]

If you saw them, they weren't speedruns 😉

[merry palm]

when the username get them banned before they even type lol

[quasi echo]

I had to smite a guy trying to speed run a ban by spamming all the mods in DMs

I had like 30 pings. of the letter A

[winter forum]

I assume there's some bot or something keeping tabs of red flags? Be impossible otherwise

15,000 users... You ain't doing that in Excel

[merry palm]

mhm we have bots handling lots of things

the rest is us

[winter forum]

Can you talk about what some of them do? Or is it not allowed?

[merry palm]

word filtering obviously. keeping track of warns and things too

reaction roles, and silly command things

[grand raptor]

xbox is 100% getting cod

[winter forum]

I wrote a lot of automation stuff for work so find decreasing workload admin interesting

[grand raptor]

path agreed under oath to keep cod on ps

[merry palm]

I love our bots here

my fave one does the names

[winter forum]

Is at least one called Rob?

[inner arrow]

Hahaha Spencer just fixed his statement about his oath. He is now saying all future Playstations too

[merry palm]

no lol

[winter forum]

Pfrt, have a word!

[merry palm]

the name bot tho

[long maple]

yeah cause he knows people would try and spin it

[merry palm]

[tacit robin]

😆

[quasi echo]

aw man

[tacit robin]

the sony fans have turned the stream off but i have a back up

[inner arrow]

Yep. But it's good to hear he is fixing it. Makes it very clear that he is committed to it

[dark sparrow]

Tbh, this pain I've been feeling makes me think i may break rule 17

[merry palm]

no breakin rule 17.

[quasi echo]

when he retires

[long maple]

atleast Beth Wilkinson is good at questions (MS Lawyer)

[dark sparrow]

I've been told day 3 and 4 are the worst

[tacit robin]

yeah she is very good

[quasi echo]

what about rule 33 and 35

[inner arrow]

Yeah she is extremely good

[winter forum]

Rule 17: || redacted by mods ||

[merry palm]

we dont have those here

[tribal thistle]

The Judge is having Phil swear he won’t take Call Of Duty off Playstation ever under oath.

[weary solar]

No dying.

[merry palm]

rule 17

[quasi echo]

Bahahaha

[dark sparrow]

It hurts ngl

[merry palm]

rule 17 is my legacy

[tired hare]

I knew they wasn't going to honest to god it makes 0 sense for buisness to take cod off of playstation

[green panther]

!dont forget double xp weekend CoD!

[inner arrow]

Beth really going to break everything the FTC Lawyer TRIED to do

[winter forum]

Rule 18: no coming back from the dead (srsly, no zombies pls)?

[merry palm]

nah zombies are allowed so long as they follow the rules here

[inner arrow]

As spencer just said in court... The heavy hitters like Minecraft and COD would make no sense to make them exclusive as those IPs need to have further reach to grow.

[dark sparrow]

On the topic of Zombies

[winter forum]

Ah where's Frank West when you need him?

[tired hare]

Man I'm watching a ps fanboy go over this and I'm laughing

[cinder veldt]

Ahh tranzit memories

[dark sparrow]

Tranzit stinki

[cinder veldt]

No no

[dark sparrow]

Its not a good map

[cinder veldt]

Alright fair point, it's a great map

[winter forum]

In other good news (everyone), phones will be required to have user replaceable batteries. Hooray

[tired hare]

I mean it's clearly a ps fanboy because there YouTube is legit them hugging a ps5 lool

[inner arrow]

Spencer just advertised the Switch better than Nintendo did and actually defending them before the FTC lol

[cinder veldt]

Please don't bring back removable backs tho

[fiery python]

Oh joy, more fragile phones with less water resistance and backs that pop off if accidentally dropped, flinging the battery under the sofa.

[clever musk]

Hey guys

[halcyon stratus]

terrible

[merry palm]

i liked having a replaceable battery tbh

could hide a couple dollars under that baby

[halcyon stratus]

lower battery power too because more space for brackets and stuff rather than fully embedded full batteries

[halcyon stratus]

can use a case

[tired hare]

Does any one knows a game that is free world ?

[fiery python]

https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/free-to-play

[tired hare]

I mean free world like gta5@fiery python

[fiery python]

You mean open world?

[tired hare]

Becz iam bored of watch dogs2

[long maple]

ah more juicy info about Sony and exclusives plus cloud

[tired hare]

@fiery python yep

[fiery python]

No need to tag me with each reply.

[tired hare]

Ok sorry

[inner arrow]

Even the judge was interested in Final Fantasy for a bit lol

Oh... Bond had an email with SE about FF16? Interesting

10 minute break

[tired hare]

Phil did a small lie

[tired hare]

I KNEW IT THEY BRUNG A PS5 TO SHOW THE GAME AND PLAY IT /j

[inner arrow]

Not entirely. The it is on PS5 and PC is partially right.
Bond had an email with Square confirming that it only comes out on PS5 and PC

[tired hare]

Ya it's not enterity a lie

[inner arrow]

PC Version isn't out right now but from the sounds of it it will never end up on xbox

[scarlet geode]

probably the same for FF7R and was probably part of the deal with sony tbf

[inner arrow]

Very likely.

[tired hare]

It's very likely it will never come to Xbox same for ff14

I think ff14 might have a permanent excluisve deal with playstation which was the start of final fantasys being exclusive

[scarlet geode]

wasn't ff14 announced as coming to xbox at one point?

or maybe they just said offhand that they were considering it...

[tired hare]

When it was first announced at e3 it said only ps3

[fiery python]

They said they wanted to. I think everyone has pretty much accepted it's never happening.

[scarlet geode]

yeah, seems right

[tired hare]

They want to but ya it doesn't seem like it's going to happen

[brave wasp]

Square said they won't do it unless Microsoft changes their crossplay regulations

[inner arrow]

What... why?

[brave wasp]

https://wccftech.com/final-fantasy-xiv-shadowbringers-interview-microsoft-holding-up-crossplay/

[short mantle]

I was using Maka's collectible guide for FF7R. He made it when it first launched on PS. He kept saying you'll be able to use this video for both the PS and Xbox versions. It made me chuckle.

[cinder veldt]

This reminds me of when Fortnite accidentally proved crossplay was possible for Fortnite

[scarlet geode]

lol

[inner arrow]

That sounds like a blatant lie. But then again it's Yoshi-P so I am not surprised that he lies

[tacit robin]

Back at X019 they reciamed there parntership with square and put some FF games for gamepass. They even had the main game dev who works on the game at the show saying that they want too bring FF titles to xbox and this was a new deal in history what happened.....

[scarlet geode]

I've never heard anyone say that Xbox has stringent crossplay rules either for or against providing it. I have heard that about PS though.

[inner arrow]

Will be discussed later. Was one of the exhibits listed

[short mantle]

Their games still come to Xbox, just not when it comes to new FF IP's.

[inner arrow]

It was called "Project Phoenix" and was a deal with Square.

[long maple]

jeez that made me jump, that was loud when they came back

[inner arrow]

Right? I jumped a bit too haha

[brave wasp]

@inner arrow

[calm tide]

Is any games fun to play Im loosing hope

[inner arrow]

But... that was already in place in 2019
Yoshi-P lying as always

[tired hare]

What do you guys think a gaming channel name should be. Make I sound good and clean

[merry palm]

yeah lots of games are fun to play

[inner arrow]

FTC doing cross exam of Spencer... AGAIN
Wth?

[tacit robin]

yeah judge allowed it because someone had to get a flight back today I assume phil

[merry palm]

its not unusual to do this.

[tacit robin]

ah this oath thing again lol

[inner arrow]

FTC doing stupid questions. Judge thinks his question is stupid too partially lol

[quasi echo]

boutta emulate halo ce on playstation / J

[tacit robin]

What do you want him to do wrtie it in blood

[inner arrow]

"Do you really going to ship cod on ps without sony signing the contract?"
Like smh

[weary solar]

🚨 12. Certain topics are not appropriate for discussion, such as: game sharing outside of your household, self-repair and disassembly of hardware, piracy, emulation, violating Xbox policies or Terms of Service, explicit material, not-safe-for-work topics, and questionable or illegal activities. Other topics are subject to moderator discretion.

[tacit robin]

are you sure cod will be on Xbox ?

[quasi echo]

emulation...isnt there emulating software available for 20$ on xbox ?

[merry palm]

reread what the rule says

its not up for debate

[inner arrow]

Judge is getting annoyed by the FTC Lawyer for being stupid

[brave wasp]

Good, lol

[quasi echo]

hey a bribe from Sony goes a long way

[long maple]

he would of gone through the whole Activision list of games to playstation if he carried on

[inner arrow]

"Can you bind microsoft to release all diablos on playstation? Can you bind microsoft to release all warcrafts all activision games on playstation"
Like... god damn dude

[merry palm]

wasnt this the same judge as the one who handled the gamers against xbox case?

[scarlet geode]

lol so pathetic

[long maple]

asking Phil if he can promise X title to playstation. when its about CoD 😄

[open flume]

had to run off to the car dealership. just got back and maaaaan just caught that under oath testimony from phil

[brave wasp]

Yep

[open flume]

thats a DUNKAROO

https://tenor.com/view/shawnkemp-dunk-sonics-nba-poster-gif-9724464

[long maple]

yeah Penguin,. but FTC are re-cross examining with more silly Questions

[open flume]

P3 just then

[merry palm]

ah yeah dude is probably like.. i heard regular people who made more sense than this...

[open flume]

let em. its clear the disposition of the judge at this juncture

wow

[rich aurora]

Watching the series of TLOU, i wanna hug frank so badly

[inner arrow]

And then asking about the contract. "Would you still do it without the contract"
And the contract was specifically asked by Sony to be modified to have a HEFTY clause to include a lot of stuff like most likely "Same fps, same res" etc etc.

[open flume]

ive studied mergers and acquisitions for the better part of 2007-2015 and ive never really seen an exec head OFFER to swear under oath on something future-looking

[quasi echo]

where are you watching it?

[brave wasp]

Somebody should tell em Warcraft isn't on console 🤣

[quasi echo]

no no he'll get it

[tacit robin]

the judge is getting upset with the FTC because they keeping asking will "insert game" still be on xbox

[inner arrow]

Yeah. It's a first. But that was asked by the judge. And Spencer even corrected his oath to include all future Playstations.
So absolutely kudos to Spencer

[rancid wyvern]

Guys which game is better
Just cause 4
Or
Just cause 3

[short mantle]

Young'uns don't know nothing about the Reign Man. Too ahead of their time.

[long maple]

I know why he back though,, Phil has been on the stand for hours hoping now he may slip up

[inner arrow]

3. Definitely 3

[long maple]

yeah 3 is really good, if on Series.. it stutters on Xbox One

[merry palm]

you ever wonder where they get so much patience? cause like.. i need some. for a friend

[inner arrow]

FTC is going back to Redfall and Starfield like... 4 times now

[tired hare]

i’m 23 hours into persona 4 golden and i’m still not even close to being done

[limpid flicker]

Must be for a friend because I know you're a saint. 😛

[merry palm]

i am not

[lunar tartan]

Kylie’s really sleeping

[merry palm]

i am just very good at being still

[limpid flicker]

I'm just kidding because the crap the mods get would make me actually find ways to slap through the internet.

[scarlet geode]

lol

[quasi echo]

Maybe a good rock throw

[merry palm]

some days people need to not, yk?

[inner arrow]

I would like to slap the FTC Lawyer lol Maybe that stops him asking the same question 3 times

[merry palm]

nah

they are just doing their job

getting paid to be like this and all

[limpid flicker]

You know, there have been days for me when I think the kindest thing someone could have done is pried me away from the keyboard and given me a nice sedative.

[merry palm]

jobs a job

[queen stump]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-face-slap-hit-shut-up-gif-18289875

[merry palm]

im saving that

[cyan quiver]

instead of slapping someone through the internet, fill their ice cream cone with cement

[merry palm]

nah

i dont want to actually hurt people

maybe just.. put a lego in each individual sock.

refold and put away

[cyan quiver]

okay, then fill it with coffee-flavored ice cream

[quasi echo]

what job pays people to act like vegtables

[cyan quiver]

I don't think coffee flavor fans exist...because I've never met anyone who likes coffee flavored ice cream

[merry palm]

i like coffee lavored ic cream. lol

lots of people do

[quasi echo]

i like mint chip

[merry palm]

otherwise it wouldnt be sold so many places

[tacit robin]

there tying to make something of nothing. FTC you had this convo about "insert game" just been on xbox on this date with MS borad didnt you. Phil Yes but that isnt what we did that game is on PS. FTC this shows Microsoft will make "insert game" Exclusive

[merry palm]

yeah its their job tho. to try and get them to slip up and its irritating as hell. i get that

but its a job

would not be at all shocked to find that they have different personal opinions but are just doing their job

no sense in wanting to be violent to someone doing that

[tacit robin]

no cause not 😆

[limpid flicker]

Every shirt they wear is unaccountably itchy.

[foggy skiff]

the man dunked so hard on an outdoor basketball court that he caused the chain nets to spark

[merry palm]

like.. lego in sock wont hurt them. they'd notice probably as they put it on

[short mantle]

Indeed lol

[merry palm]

and i reserve that for people i actually dislike

[scarlet geode]

the lawyer was just trying to be like well there are these other games that they could hold back, as if Sony cares if they lose Diablo vs COD

[merry palm]

any little thing they can grasp

[foggy skiff]

what's funny is that for being such a vicious dunker, he had really small hands and couldn't palm the ball

[merry palm]

wish i could see their faces

[limpid flicker]

I realise Sony probably don't want this, but... have they considered that given the choice they'd probably be happy to put "Microsoft store for PS" on the console and let Sony have every game.

[scarlet geode]

yeah those straws they are grasping at (and have many times so far) are the most damning of their case really

[limpid flicker]

That feels like a very MS way of doing things. Am I wrong?

[inner arrow]

So we doing the gen9 thing again? Went to the toilet and come back to the same argument we had 3 hours ago

[merry palm]

this whole thing just needs to be over

im so done with hearing about it haha

[limpid flicker]

If consoles were open to multiple marktplaces, I'm really certain that XBOX would want to be everywhere and Sony would be like "Nah we'll just stick to our own place."

[scarlet geode]

the FTC can't let the gen 9 argument go because it's basically the cornerstone of their entire case

[short mantle]

I'm getting tired of it too

[limpid flicker]

And Nintendo would be like "LALALALALA we can't hear you!"

[tired hare]

And legit they just want cod loool

[scarlet geode]

if Nintendo is part of the "market" then there is absolutely no reason for them to be arguing this case at all

[merry palm]

yep

[open flume]

bold of you to assume they know what a market is when they dont even know what streaming is

[merry palm]

facts

[limpid flicker]

I often wonder exactly what Nintendo do want. Every so often they make a third-party games push, and then is it just me or does it always peter out before the generation midpoint?

[scarlet geode]

haha, the current FTC doesn't know much it seems like. It makes me wonder if these lawyers are just like so tired and doing their jobs but internally like why is Khan making us go through this again

[final coral]

Nintendo is not a competitor because they appear last on the list lmao

[inner arrow]

"F76... is that one of dem forzas?"

[limpid flicker]

All respect to Nintendo for having in house exclusives that consistently sell systems, of course.

[long maple]

got great Stamina with these answers from Phil

[open flume]

idk. i think its pretty cool that a case of this grandeur has hit mainstream. so many of these M&A hearings last WEEKS and are nothing burgers, but because its gaming, it's mainstream. so its pretty neat that there's a crossover

like i covered the tmobile/at&t attempted acqui and like 18 people were on the call

[tired hare]

I'm being honest have they stated or even asked about how this could effect the market negatively

Like it's legit been cod to ps to Nintendo to Bethesda to cod again over and over

[merry palm]

khan has a firm distaste for any large corporation
to the point that she has been recused from other cases due to the mass amounts of criticisms she has lobbed against many of them

so like.. this is all very expected

[inner arrow]

FTC : "Sony bought FF16 to have the brand exclusive on their platform right?"
Spencer : "Yes"
FTC : "So you will do the same with Activision because it's 70 billion right?"
🤦‍♂️

[limpid flicker]

You can ask the question, but I won't be able to find any answers. 🙂

[scarlet geode]

ROFL that was embarrassing

Florian: "That FTC lawyer, Weingarten, has just insulted human intelligence. The most stupid question I ever heard a lawyer ask in an antitrust case."

[inner arrow]

Judge just cut off the Lawyer. And Spencer question is done

[tacit robin]

the judge amazing lol

[inner arrow]

She didn't even want to hear anything about the cloud. Found it probably ridiculous and is getting tired of the FTC Lawyer already. You could it hear in her voice.

[scarlet geode]

haha finally, I was wondering. Florian pointed out she was multitasking during parts of the FTC questioning today. This redirect literally asked the same questions over again in even more annoying ways

[final coral]

Lmao that question came out of nowhere and the judge was having none of it

[cyan quiver]

what's gen9?

[tacit robin]

the FTC tried to say to Phil are you going to add cloud to your oath

[scarlet geode]

basically an industry term for the current generation of consoles

[limpid flicker]

I think that's the current one? I think?

[inner arrow]

An old term which was to differentiate different generation of consoles which can now be laid to rest

[merry palm]

cant promise much on cloud imho givenhow new it is..

[cyan quiver]

oh, right

[merry palm]

like.. predict the future?

[limpid flicker]

I always anchor my understanding of generations to the memory that PS360 was Gen 7m that knowledge sticks for me.

[cyan quiver]

funny to think that we're almost to the 10th generation of consoles

[final coral]

Bless the lawyer he’s trying so hard to make phill slip up

[tired hare]

Who is this talking

[merry palm]

ikr jack lol

[inner arrow]

Lawyer tried to squeeze as many oaths out of spencer as possible lol

[long maple]

works at Google

[limpid flicker]

Almost like... 5 more years.

[tired hare]

Ah stadia

[merry palm]

like.. i hope the lawyer gets vacation somewhere private after this

[tacit robin]

i thought ryan was next ?

[inner arrow]

Only got Diablo and COD out of it lol

[scarlet geode]

first it's the former lead of Stadia

[inner arrow]

They probably do him last cause he was recorded and closed off as well so we will not be able to hear it

[open flume]

the whole point of trying a case like this is to make headlines to go for judgeship lets not get it sideways

[limpid flicker]

I wonder, if this goes badly for PS, is there any chance Jim Ryan could be made a scape goat for it?

[open flume]

the board will ultimately blame the CEO

[merry palm]

absolutely

[open flume]

they always do

[tacit robin]

sucks

[stoic blaze]

whats the worst case scenario for xbox?

[open flume]

denied acqui

[limpid flicker]

Cause like, ahem I have no fondness for Jim Ryan.

[scarlet geode]

as of right now, this acquisition closing wouldn't be good or bad for Sony

[stoic blaze]

other than that 💀

[inner arrow]

I don't think they get denied here. But CMA can deny it.

[open flume]

that IS the worst case

like its either approved or nah here

[limpid flicker]

You know, I agree with you, but hwo do they see it?

[inner arrow]

I mean denying the acquisition means they have to pay Activision 3 billion dollar for nothing. I think that's a pretty bad thing per se

[tired hare]

Cma is the iffy one

[scarlet geode]

"When the FTC lawyer wanted Phil Spencer to also make a commitment under oath for making games available on the cloud, she cut it off by saying she doesn*t need that." ROFL

[merry palm]

yeah worst case is they lose 3 billion and move on to plan b

would suck, but thems the breaks sometimes

[tired hare]

What's plan b

[merry palm]

longer term planning

like.. its not the only thing they have planned forever and ever

[tired hare]

Ik buy Ubisoft /j

[merry palm]

its not.. if they dont get it xbox fails as a company or any such nonsense lol

[inner arrow]

"Would you here under oath say you will make a new Prototype game when you get Activision?"
Should have been the question smh

[open flume]

im usually disinterested in armchair takes from gamers who think theyre lawyers but im enjoying it here because the one-liners coming out of the call are GOLDEN

[gray coral]

yo someone get legaleagle to fact check this!

[tacit robin]

nah they want a big mobile publisher basically one of the reasons Phil gave

[inner arrow]

I was surprised that the Judge wasn't asking why Final Fantasy is called Final and still has 16 entries

[open flume]

ha