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Secret of Mana was great back in the day.
Does it just not have a UI?
Probably took off the UI to show more of the game in action
This mans leather coat rocks
I'm gonna hazard a guess that it's on Gamepass
Hope so, will save me some money 🙂
So lets see.. we got a Fall game, Summer... will this be the Spring game
Don't quote me if I'm wrong. Just a feeling
being the first one on xbox, I'd love it to be on game pass to introduce a large audience to the series
Oh ive been really curious about ARA
That dang Dan
I wouldn't be surprised if they make the new Mana game a paid title, but put the Mana trilogy collection or remake on Game Pass to drum up interest
Oh damn I'd got this mixed up with Ninja Theory's Project Mara and was hoping to see something from that.
Loved that blooper 😂
My son loves grand strategy games. He might like ara
😄
That blooper was charming. Reminds us that they're all human.
Ara ara UwU
I love that they left it in
Game devs aren't human /s
Nah, in reality I'm just a racoon
As long as you don’t have to kill the animals….
If this game is as addicting as Civilization then I am so in
See? Anchel confirmed it. That's good enough for me
This looks like i will sink hundreds of hours into it lol
No set victory conditions..? Interesting..
I know quite a few people that will love this game
It's an intriguing game.
Huh. That's an interesting turn based system
Me not knowing that Civilization was turn-based till now
Yea the turn taking got really old when playing Civilization online. You'd finish your turn in a few seconds and wait 3-4 minutes for the opponent to take theirs
Haha, have you heard of the ''One more turn'' meme? If so, I really want to know what you think it meant!
I didn't 😅
Got any room under that rock Anchel? 😛
Yo they're riding mopeds in their offices what the
COUGARS!!!
Look, for the past 5 years I've been living in another planet (a moon, actually), don't blame me! 😛
Hahaha
another Fall game
I hate cougars too but probably not those cougars
Fall 24 😦
They're going to have another surprise
what?!
Did not expect to hear some @vagrant karma language in that stream
You really only need the first 3 films tbh
Todd Howard jumpscare.
Todd what happened lol
Ack, stream died for me 😦
Wait.. he's a doctor?
rip
I thought he was indiana
Archaeologist
not a Time Lord
Unfortunately not
This looks really good graphically.
Harrison Ford-likeness confirmed
First person?
First-person, really?
Makes sense.
I think it's gonna be a mix of 1st and third
I was hoping for third-person Uncharted/Tomb Raider style gameplay.
Hope it’s good like the first movies and not the recent one :).
Yeah it seems to be a mix
Way too many first person games..
Cut scenes in 3rd person. Everything else in 1st person
MachineGames is really known for the Wolfenstein games.
yeah, when they said 'you are Indiana Jones' ...1st person
Haha caught that scream too
Oh man first person….
Hmm.. interesting that they're doing 1st person...
Looks really good but damn I really wish this was 3rd person
Oh wow. You can whip the bullets. That's cool
Where have I seen this type of comments before...
Looks good
Anchel getting a deja vu 😄
Was it for Cyberpunk?
Avatar
Oooo
I dig it
Well you believe wrong my friend Edward 😄
Well it will be on gamepass I’m sure so that’s good.
nice so I only need to watch Raiders of the lost Ark
I will say though, it looks pretty good, graphically speaking
Definitely
And it's gonna make things feel different from "yet another Uncharted/Tomb Raider style game" that we would have had if it had been just 3rd person
I wouldve liked to play this in VR actually, whipping people about 😄
VR
Meh
I can see how good it would be in VR in a few years. As it stands now? Meh
Graphically this really looks good
It really does
This looks so good 😫
Wait, I'm going to have to THINK while playing this game??
I might just play it on PC instead (I dont mind first person there).
Graphics do look good. Just hung up on the first person. It doesn’t make it feel as cinematic
is it on game pass
Ooooo, I like stunt stuff
Yah but that’s only certain times
"John Williams did a fantastic job with the original score...
... so we found another composer who is not him to copy his style" 😛
Isn't John Williams retired
He has been retired, though i think he just announced hes coming back
Semi-retired
I forget what he's coming back for
Interesting it’s first person
Looks like an Indiana Jones villain, checks out
they can still improve graphics right
That ragdoll physic could use some work 😆
You think they need to improve THAT?
Wonder if Harrison ford is doing the voice or they got someone similar
When he hit the guy with the shovel, his body flayed about on the table
people complain about everything, Anchel. Gamers gonna Gamer
Someone similar I'd say. No doubt Troy Baker
I hope not
They can always improve the visuals for specific details, but I wouldn't expect any major changes otherwise
A line he said earlier did sound like Troy Baker to me, but not so much after that so I'm not sure.
there are multiple people who have voiced him over the years in games
Inb4 it's Chris Pratt
Anchel....no
Good job Machinegames
So that's neat, 5 games shown releasing this year 😄
Xbox's 2024 is stacked, man.
Did you see Todd stealing the monkey?
Is harrison ford the va for jones?
Why comments don't go like "why game 1st person, Far Cry clone" 😝
go on Twitter, there are lots
Definitley gonna try out all these games
Such a reskin of Wolfenstein /s
Tbf, it probably should be 3rd person
Nah. Avatar clone /s
Alright Elderscrolls up next
Anyways, this all looked pretty great!
And good to see Squre-Enix getting closer to Xbox again, even if it is for a series nobody expected
no shadow drop. That's why it's good to temper expectations
Was expecting FF XIV open beta announcement
Thoughts of it?
Really looking forward to Hellblade and interested in checking out Indy. Just a little disappointed it's a different game to what I'd hoped, but kind of expected knowing Todd is at the helm. The rest, not overly fussed.
Decent show. Still most looked forward to is hellblade. Yah was still hoping ff7 remake or ffxiv or perfect dark. But perfect dark still to early on I bet
It was a good direct. Pretty much what I expected
they have Quincy from Quincy's Tavern on the ESO preshow
Indiana Yones
Wouldn't say it's anything to do with Todd Howard. The Machinegames team is most experienced with 1st person action after all.
Honestly, you had extremely high and unrealistic expectations 😅
I wish we got a deeper dive into Avowed and how it differs from Skyrim aside from the wands and magic. I wanna see what towns look like and what you can do in towns
Yeah, I also want to see how else they will differentiate Avowed from Elder Scrolls
lol probably
Indy looked great I was surprised that Avowed and hellbalde dates thought they be the other way around. Would have been nice to get a game for spring 2024
I hope avowed has third person! That can be like elder scrolls 🙂
Hellblade is Spring
yeah i guess i was meaning feb to march
Hellblade looks like a good action adventure game
Which xbox really doesn’t have much of
Same about Avowed having third person. I really hope they have it but I'm leaning towards it won't only cause Outer Worlds not having it very much
Troy Baker confirmed as Indy https://ew.com/indiana-jones-troy-baker-the-great-circle-exclusive-8426963
🙃
Hey guys just to say love being here man and look forward to dropping by more often
If anyone wants to talk gaming or play anything, hit me up
I was only half joking when I said it earlier but I'm glad it's him. He's a great VA
ESO on next. I wish they would make a server for crossplay where console players can play with pc players .
Troy Baker is so well known, good for him. I am always hoping for some smaller lesser known person to get a break in the industry though
ESO event for anyone who's interested https://www.twitch.tv/bethesda
Nice. Though i wish it was ford
yeah, he's in everything. He's becoming the Chris Pratt of video games at this point.
I didn't know you couldn't cross play in ESO
Ford is a great actor, but not every actor can be a voice actor. Totally different thing. It's not easy to 'act' in a booth
Yah if you play on Xbox you can only play with Xbox players
is it just the base game on game pass?
Yah but thankfully no forced online subscription unless you really want to
Wait til a sale you can get the whole game and all the expansions cheap.
Oooo I can probably make that in-person event for ESO
I have a few of the early expansions I think. I haven't played in a long time
ESO movie would be cool
Avowed also look good
Avowed is in the Pillars of Eternity universe, right?
Correct
right just about to watch, I went for a nap earlier thinking I would wake up in time nope, its now nearly 2am lol
I think Avowed is the only thing I've seen the most disappointment around as far as the artstyle goes.
Since it's a far cry from Pillars of Eternity's darker fantasy artstyle. which is what people were hoping for especially with the initial cg trailer showing a darker fantasy world.
the biggest concern I've had and seen is that it's just "the outer worlds artstyle but fantasy" and not very....idk. it's just abit of a clash
very, very bright and vibrant
I love the way they art direction went tbh
too many fantasy games have been dark grimy dungeons, time to go back to the roots
even Elden Ring was super colourful compared to the dark souls series
the cover art is so good looking too lol
I was a bit weirded out how the Germans in IJ were clearly “sanitised”
no red arm bands or anything
Might’ve been to not age limit the trailer but hoping that isn’t the case
the whole first person discourse is stupid though, it lets Machine Games take advantage of their combat design skills, and they even made traversal sections into third person
It's not stupid to have a preference
I don't find first-person melee combat very enjoyable. It's not as fluid and I personally don't think it fits very well outside of VR.
Just because I have a preference for how I was hoping the game would be doesn't mean it's stupid.
If I was playing a character as iconic as Indy I would want it to be in third person but will still play it. Would be nice if it had a toggle for first/third person like in those Jedi Knight games
blade is definitely the type of game that should be third person though, will be very disappointed if that’s first person
Id recommend trying cyberpunk, and even then the whip seems to have been implemented super well
machine games knows their gunplay
I've tried Cyberpunk
Guns in first-person are fine. It's melee combat I don't like that way and Indy is more about fists and whips than guns.
I'll still play it. Visually it's impressive. I just have a preference for gameplay.
cyberpunk proved to me melee in first person can be amazing
it’s just Bethesda still hasn’t figured that out lol
I didn't find it fun there either.
it’s an RPG game so it needs a lot of optimisation rather than picking up something from the floor
if you’re doing it with fists you’ll eventually have metal plated arms and be able to throw dead bodies
with katanas you’ll be cutting people at light speed
Perspective aside, Indy looks great. I just tihnk it would have been fun running around in third-person, having moments losing his hat and needing to grab it before it's too late. Seeing the detailed environments you're exploring all around instead of a much narrower fov.
hmmmm well they did mention traversal will be third person
problem is we don’t know how much the game is portioned for first person and third person
I’m guessing when they want to show you all the vistas and set pieces they’ll have indie in third person to get a wider view of it
Avowed looks like it tried very hard and well to get the combat to be good but it kinda lacks impact
I like all the build options they showed
dual pistols, wands, melee magic hybrids
enemy designs looked awesome too
That just means climbing ladders, pipes, going down ziplines.
Yes
Why Bethesda always making these first person games bru Indiana jones should be 3rd person
Am I right
I am ikr
Who’s there someone chat with me
uh... this is machinegames developing
plus, every bethesda games studios RPG, to my knowledge, has a third person camera toggle
the roots of what
literally every classic CRPG is extremely dark and dismal
the oversaturation of game's color palettes is a recent trend
I don't think it's an issue for a game to be colorful, but Avowed is oversaturated in a lot of places that becomes reminiscent of The Outer Worlds in ways that aren't the best. as opposed to Pillars, which is the universe it's set in.
Yeah I'm not at all sure what you're talking about, Fush.
These are "the roots". They sure aren't bright and colorful, even when it comes to TES: Arena, which is...arguably one of the more "colorful" RPGs from back then.
Only reason I didn't go any older is because all you're gunna be looking at prior to these is even darker, whether it's super dark pixel graphics or straight up text on a blank screen.
Nope this is full first person
Indy isn't a BGS RPG though, which was what Kat was talking about.
what bgs mean?
Bethesda Game Studios, the development studio for The Elder Scrolls, the 3D Fallouts (minus New Vegas), and most recently, Starfield.
Oh why Bethesda post the trailer then?
They're publishing the game.
Same as how they published Redfall but it was made by Arkane.
So Bethesda made Starfield right?
Made (by BGS) and published by Bethesda Softworks, yes.
Ohh so did Bethesda pay them money to publish it?
Oh and so did Bethesda not help at all wit game making is they just publishers or they helped a bit?
Not sure how it went for those ones, honestly.
i also saw what looked like normal gameplay in third person, not a cutscene
I think that was just for when he swung on that log but it stay in first person
It's 3rd person for traversal stuff like climbing ladders etc. But primarily 1st person
Yea that what I was tryna say
We had Bards Tale on the Apple 2GS
I never played Ancient Land of Ys, but that was around back in 89 and wasn't a sierra game
That's definitely a whole lot more color than I'm used to from back then, wow.
the 'g' in apple 2gs literally stood for 'graphics' lol
though neither of those pictures are actually using the full grpahics capabilities. they were both ports not native
Saturation and Contrast are two of the most important things when factoring mood. it's why color grading instead of just generic color filters is so important in media as well.
darker, more muted tones are heavily indicative of a serious tone. which for what stakes avowed claims to have in its story, the oversaturation and lack of contrast make it feel more whimsical
hence why people are drawing comparisons (and subsequent complaints) to The Outer Worlds
tone, mood, setting, stakes. all of this can be set just by effective use of a color palette
meant roots of the fantasy genre itself, but this is pretty interesting to look at
fantasy has its origins in fables and fairy tales
all of which are extremely dark and graphic
a lot of classic pre-video game fantasy was also very dark
even for high-fantasy settings
@celest fiber Knock it off. You were told no.
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Frick
Pokemon company sent out a formal letter telling ppl to stop emailing them about lawyers to sue palworld. Thats hilarious 😂
whos ready for State of Play starting in 15mins.. supposed showing 15+ games around 40mins long
Current event: gaming
Praying for SOCOM but I doubt itll work 😄
yeah true
This won't be as big as the announcements during summer, right?
dont believe so, cause PSVR2 is mentioned. we know Stellar Blade and Rise of the Ronin everything else will be a surprise
not sure we see Helldivers again thats close to release
got to show us some Gaas stuff unless they leave that till another show
here we go
This the channel for the event?
yeah
Was not showing up for me for a while, all good now
What surprises are you all hoping for?
ah stuff for this year and beyond.
Ghost of Tsushima 2 announcement and Death Stranding 2 release date, please! 🙏
oh games events channel jumpscare
I dont own a PS but I watch them sometimes incase 3rd party show up.
Did they seriously just showcase someone getting a double jump ability?
Oh is it now??
yeah been on for like 7mins.. Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade have been shown so far
Huh, Sonic Generations??
yeah remake I think
I mean, great game, but is this a re-release? I suppose the PS3 version doesn't work on PS5
OH!
OMG
sonic generations, neat
OK instant buy. I don't know what it is but yes
shadow the edgehog, neat
SonicXShadow Generations
Splatoon clone
PS+ addition right day one?
I think so
Dave the Diver
Godzilla?
ah yes lol
i love being mere seconds behind
I am on youtube, usually its me who is behind
I'm on youtube since they're showing it in 4K
Pffft, 4k is overrated. Floating window so I can read chat is where it's at
Silent Hill 2!
yeah i found twitch a bit further ahead than youtube, especially now since every time i clicked on it started at the same part, making me always behind
"But why 1st person!!!!?!?!!1!!"
free game ?
Judas ?
Judas is the game Ken Levine is working on. The creator of BioShock.
yeah. looking forward to it. caught my attention the first time it was shown
Metro VR game interesting
Oh come on... no way
This reminds me a lot of AC
Yeah
Seems a lot more combat focused perhaps?
CAT
I'm definitely getting this.
Read the comments. Didn't fail to disappoint.
"PS2 graphics bruh"
Never read stream comments......
that's correct, all game consoles, including the ps2, have graphics
But how else will I ever understand gen alpha???
hmm whats this?
I don't usually play Dark Souls and clones, but it has difficulty options.
twitch pausing for no particular reason was a funny prank
Until Dawn remaster?
Just add "bro" to the beginning or end of every sentence
yep
some decent stuff in here, not for everyone though I guess
Maybe I should stop watching for potential spoilers?
This reminds me of the Matrix lol
you may need to avoid spoilers in here more than a stream
is this one of those "video games"
why was there a dwarf earlier. what is kojima doing.
What's with this Joker wannabe?
lol
Joker vibes
the dwarf! i saw it again! it's on sam bridges belt!
I think it's incredibly easy to run out of WHATs when watching a Kojima game trailer
Kojima being Kojima I guess
I'm sorry but it kinda feels like it's weird just for the sake of being weird
i think i heard 1 note that sounded straight off the bad to the bone riff and i burst out laughing
The first game was fantastic. Weird, but fantastic.
death stranding 2 beach party special
Damn, we have to wait until 2025. 😔
oh hey new game announce after DS2
"Today, we welcome visionary videogame creator who we will introduce like he is the royalty of all game developers on top of everyone else we've shown on screen today"
espionage genre.. wonder that that could be
Titanium Gear Liquid
At least he doesn't hide that his games are movies with interactive experiences 😛
Comunbia Pictures, interesting
And suddenly all the FF7R fans could breathe again in the comments
Aaaanyways, this is it, I'm off 😛
this is pretty spot on and im annoyed at the fact it's true
anyway, action espionage. does that mean less walking?
later Anchel
I mean it does seem like Kojima made this genre before years ago and is going to be making an original IP from those ideas. said its gonna blend in film to video game.. he always does bizarre things
i do wonder why they were at columbia pictures, maybe i just didn't pay attention enough, but the death stranding movie is gonna be an a24 production
until dawn is that with the actor from agents of shield?
Yeah, Brett Dalton (aka Grant Ward) was the voice of Josh (I believe it was Josh anyway).
The narrator guy in Until Dawn is the mob boss guy from Prison Break, too.
i never played it how scary is that compared to dead space and resident evil?
I don't find it scary at all, but then again, I don't find Dead Space or RE scary either.
I’m downloading Silent Hill: The Short Message. Sadly, it doesn't have any trophies.
Is that some typa short game or demo
It's a short game. As far as I can tell, the ||game keeps looping||. When I was getting towards the end, ||she kills herself by jumping off a building, and then she wakes back up in the same room you start off in||. That's where I stopped.
Ok that’s cool did you see the silent hill 2 trailer it look good but the animations look kinda funky
Yeah, I'm excited for it.
Yea ima buy it too cuz it kinda looks like resident evil and that’s my favorite franchise
It reminded me of RE, too. I also the series.
||i wonder what similarly short, also free silent hill game that also loops the same location over and over this description is reminding me of||
no spoilers beyond what you described btw
Short Message was...rough
Do that mean it sucked
wasup
mi bad bro mi bad
Hello
this is new
No it's not.
It’s hidden and return when there’s an event.
It's not hidden, it's just that Discord sucks and doesn't properly show new channels to people.
I thought it did get locked once the events ended and then gets reopened sometimes
I don’t know what event is going on though I totally missed it
Sam reopened when State of Play was on. I think Anchel asked about it.
no events going on right now. there was an Indie one yesterday with a couple games shown for Game Pass
I think you mean walking simulator 2
Booo.
And it's not. Kojima is improving the experience. More action oriented of an entry.
hopefully not.
I doubt it's specifically more action oriented
but they have shown more elements of action and dynamic world elements
wow a podcast today
pretty neat maybe
aaand everyone's using general for it, that's cool too
Hi Kat
oh my goodness
hey all
Yay! Event day!

hey
It's time 😈
No no no, podcast time
My TV is ready. You can count with my controller, Phil!
wont be talking much got to make dinner soon. I am starving
I have an appointment in three minutes, by the time I'm done it'll probably be over.
It's still eventful 😝
I think today's stream will highly be in favor with us
I have to leave in 39 minutes hopefully bulk of info is in that
god dammit everyone is going live on my subscriptions tab it's gonna bury the video
Loĺ
I don't see anything on their YouTube
My Deliveroo isnt going to be here for 15 mins yet 💀 i need snacks
popcorn? lol
Me neither
I'm pretty sure it'll be a short one
@oblique minnow it's time
Probably not a live cast, just a video that will go online
Oh yeah, good point
yeah looks like its going to be a pre recording video
am I blind? I dont see it
Hear from Phil Spencer, Sarah Bond and Matt Booty as they share updates on the Xbox business.
00:00 Introduction
00:51 Exclusivity
05:28 How does that apply to future titles?
06:26 1st party games and Xbox Game Pass
08:20 Activision Blizzard Games are coming to Xbox Game Pass
08:53 Why isn't this a change in Xbox strategy?
10:42 How is multi-pl...
Good luck everyone!
22 minutes long

ty bowski
||four games confirmed for third party out of phil spencers mouth|| spoiler
Thats a cool stage
I should really turn off Tom Warren's notifications, he's spoiling it all! 😛
Diablo IV on Game Pass in March
lol
||NOT starfield or indiana jones||
yeah, being pre recorded people can skip through faster for the content
Let's let people find out things in real time.
that's why i wanted a watch along premire and not something you can skip around!
Ok my bad, just excited 😄 I'll slow down
anyway once again it seems the internet has blown things out of proportion once again, and that's an understatement
oh it's only 22 minutes, sweet
Maybe. Depends on if this 4 games is a test for the future
Listen to his explanation as to why first
great news - wish it were more!
4 games is exciting
oh god... they are failing at marketing again 
I can't believe it, the internet stretched the truth!
i went from excited to facepalming
Tacti, did you seriously expect any way of explaining this that wouldn't get Internet outcries?
Internet gave xbox free clout on all that fear mongering nonsense 😂
TL;DR Reddit and Twitter lied and blew everything out of proportion, like usual.
and twitter
I'm glad they tackled it first and foremost

gamers gonna be that way
Kinda wish this was live nor pre recorded but I understand why
More like random twitter users as well
Lol
all them lies on Twitter and alot of fear mongering as well thank goodness its over
The internet was basically throwing everything at the wall and waiting to see what stuck.
it is live as far as i'm concerned... i wouldn't be able to take the mic anyway lol
What platforms, what games, when, what’s the criteria going forward, what about the future of console exclusive in combination with pc. No promises on exclusives going to other platforms or not going. I feel so far this is the problem Xbox has had with messaging. It’s not clear.
same, i don't wanna see "this game is coming to this service or platform" 10 minutes early
nah raven just alot of mad up stuff from fanboys making fake narratives online
insane leak: it's about to say "gullible" on the ceiling
nuhuh
narrative last week was Microsoft gamepass and removing day 1 games on gamepass which was all false and made up nonsense
Because they weren't planning to make the announcements yet, but with all the leaks they had to bring things forward.
anyway ||diablo 4 coming to gp||
I can guess that the 4 games are grounded, pentiment, hi fi rush and sea of thieves
Hifinrush isn’t a community game though
kylie are you skipping ahead?
guess is the key word
i was going to say the same
But hi fi rush sure is a small game
||Diablo 4|| on Game Pass in March!
I'm glad it's not halo, gears, forza or starfield
"game passs is only available on xbox" is an interesting statement...
since i play gamepass on my....mac
We don't know that yet. All we know is that it's not Starfield.
(Or Indy, but you didn't include that).
Or Indiana Jones
(yeah very true)
Then Phil is clear about 2 games being 1+ year old live service games and 2 games being smaller games
Take a shot every time they say Xbox
so people worrying over nothing.. tons of clicks happened then this past few weeks
I want to know what shirt he has on, shirt watch/shelf watch
So... the internet being the internet.
yep, and so many people got a ton of engagement and made money from it. People falling for it and clicking in/on stuff
nice, someone called and i have lost roughly 5 minutes 🥲
I guarantee we'll still see people coming in here and saying the opposite of what is announced and saying that they're lying or doing things not announced.
10000%
but back to the video
pretty good from what I've seen so far
Yep, definitely destroyed my trust in some journalists and outlets
anyway im 5 minutes behind lol thats nice
You can skip through five minutes of the exclusivity talk. There's nothing of note there beyond the initial announcement of 4 games.
Jez Corden has bounced through all the entire spectrum of journalistic opinions over the last 3 weeks
time to unsub unfollow a bunch of things
Ol' Clickbait Corden
"journalists"
k
It was based on rumors, you had trust in those that chose to speculate? Lol
yeah crossplay and cross save. like play anywhere cool thats still a thing.
So the only thing I’ve learned so far is 4 games coming now to other platforms. No promises either way for future games. And game pass only Xbox and pc not other platforms.
So I'm assuming the next season of Diablo is March 28th then
jez blocked me
right?!
No it's april
I better watch out what I say, or next thing I see will be Jez saying that Xbox will launch an VR device with Avatar as its launch title
Whaat? Lmao.
Makes sense. Give people one month to play the game on Game Pass, finish things up, then launch a new season before people move on
wear it as a badge
I frequently told him he was a clickbait rumor monger
being blocked by someone either ranges from "oh well guess I'll move on" to "hell yeah"
I pretty much don't trust any of the big Twitter gaming journalists
i don't like twitter and the over reliance on it
So the multiplatform rumor is destroyed
I don't know exact date for s4 of d4 atm
what do they mean when they talk about 'this holiday'?
Do not discuss leaks and rumors here.
Leaks and rumours are not always accurate nor do they always represent the final product or idea, if it even comes to exist at all. Things change all the time and it's better to wait for an official announcement than to get excited or disappointed about things that might not even be happening.
End of the year
Sorry
when the hawaii missile scare happened some of the first official word that nobody was in danger was on twitter instead of the follow up alert, im sorry but that's ridiculous
Well that’s basically told me not to bother buying another Xbox console
'holiday season" for gaming is normally Oct-Dec
The games that are going multiplatform have not been announced, let's let the studios have their fun in creating their own events.
Play everything via cloud at £10 a month and cancel
Well it doesn’t seem like Xbox is going the Sega route. I’ll admit I was kind of nervous as a result of the rumors and I do think Phil dropped the ball in not squashing them immediately but meh
personally cloud doesn't work for me
next gen hardware the biggest leap from a previous generation, big words but yay xbox is not dead
They cooked good with this update i'm very happy about this
I live in uk and have great internet. Gonna invest in a ps5 now
Yay
Did you even see what the announcement has been?
aw sweet the trolls are here /s
seems like you didn't listen or read what they said
Yeah every game including Activision is coming to game pass meaning I can play via cloud
I get excited about a Lakers championship every year, it hasn't happened since 2020
Name me a single game that is coming out that I won’t be able to play via cloud
If you can do that I can get a console
How long you got?
Go ahead, which first party title
not all game pass games come to cloud right?
Nope
I like the focus on Xbox hardware and making cross play with pc. Even if they didn’t spell out exclusives.
You didn't specify first-party at first.
nope
The first party ones do.
Rare Replay
Same
So last week it was the demise of Xbox as a hardware company, this week it's 4 sort of nothingburger games and Xbox continuing to make consoles, lol.
And how has today changed any of that?
Yeah that’s why I said I’ll invest in a ps5 and play all their games on cloud lol otherwise why would I say I’ll play via cloud if i have ps5?
twitter strikes again!
Because i was reading some games won’t come to game pass lol
Specifically Activision. This event told me otherwise
Not all non first party games come to both consoles. Stop being obtuse
Guys so that means that call of duty is coming to gamepass too?
new hardware this holiday 👀
Can I have my 20-ish minutes back please?
Game showcase in June
Alright, just finished watching the podcast
That's not what they said about the hardware.
When should we expect to hear the other titles and what platforms hope soon
4 games going to other platforms that it... Diablo 4 coming to Game Pass in March.. new updates on hardware in Holiday season and next-gen roadmap coming, also digital library not going anywhere.
Honestly I got so distracted with chats and Twitter that I barely paid attention to the podcast itself 😂
Same. I should've just stayed asleep
That woman specifically said all our games will be on game pass or want them to
Easy, cloud is the future and I’ll cancel when done playing thanks Xbox
so. month-long server conniption fit can end now I hope
Listen… I just want to play FF7 on my Xbox pls lol
Go gaslight elsewhere @fathom eagle
you can, I think, but the original
Only thing that was confusing is going forward they made “no promises” on exclusivity in either direction.
Screenshotted.
lmao
Wow
glhf
Xbox could’ve put the kibosh on the rumors last week.
idk tbh
They could have, but why should they?
i, too, can take screenshots
yes because Phil said in the next 5-10 years things may change due to platforms not being able to wall-garden themselves. off. other platforms can mean PC just like what PS is doing
And that activision games like call of duty coming to gamepass interesting
First you’re not allowed to speak about events ok so I come here now I’ve been accused of gaslighting. It’s just whatever floats your boat right lmao
They might have needed to finalize plans and messaging.
addressing every thing Twitter rages about is a full time job. Let them put together something like this to cover lots of topics at once
They likely already had to bring this forward as it is, which is why there were no real specific details given.
All first party games come to Game Pass on day one, yes. That hasn't changed today.
Not all games come to cloud streaming, they didn't say that.
Not to mention, cloud streaming right now is limited to 1080p, SDR picture quality with quite a lot of compression and just stereo audio.
There was an event planned. People started rumors over it. They had to change plans due to it
Brand damage , outlets were reporting on it and the community ( as ridiculous as it was) was melting down. A tweet from Phil/ Xbox would’ve been a quick way of ending it.
£10 a month is perfect for me and I thank Xbox. Just will cancel when done playing fable or something
I don't care about the rumors one way or the other. I just want people to act normal here in chat (as much as possible anyway)
And those outlets were wrong on so many things.
They were going on about how important it is to get to many screens so.. think about it
Alrighty, I finished the video.
TL;DW 4 games are coming to different platforms, but those games are unannounced. Diablo 4 is coming to Game Pass in March (I missed the date). More work is being done to further the availability of games on Xbox Cloud Gaming.
And zaku, marketing 101. If they responded to every thing the internet come up with it would encourage people to keep doing it
Right but brand damage still happens regardless of right or wrong
The company makes the announcements when they choose to, not when they're forced to by random internet nonsense and clickbait.
Much less worried now for sure. But as a consumer would like to know what types of games will be on other consoles
Brand damage happens regardless of what they do or when they do it.
yeah nothing changes for me.. will be watching for their next-gen roadmap thats all
If cloud streaming is enough for you to play games, then so be it.
It's a reasonable take. You'll still be a Microsoft customer as a subscriber.
Lots of people do that already, today. So you won't be the first, or last.
hopefully this devalues twitter things like this again in the future
that was definitely a podcast about video games
I know but now I’m investing in a ps5 when I didn’t need to before so.. yeah
Might continue to be multiplayer games like Minecraft dungeons stuff like that
Nothing has changed. Your entire argument is a non-sequitur. Please move on.
You didn't need to before either. Today hasn't changed that.
No, because all you that believed it or worried about it will jump on the next set and cycle repeats
Same
I’m standing by what I said. I hear what you’re saying but if we carry on we’ll just be talking past each other. Im just happy that Xbox will remain a traditional console maker
Do we know which games r heading to ps5 or switch yet?
Nope
Of course xbox will continue making consoles, if they started it from 360 until now why would they discontinue?
MP games makes sense, more people and hopefully cross play/save. PLaying with friends on other platforms would be fantastic
they gonna let the studios announce them apparently we dont have long to wait.
Just d4 coming to gp in March right?
Started it from 360?
Yes
Whatever was the first console, he gets what I want to say
yeah 28th March. I will be playing. need to make some space
The Xbox was the first Xbox.
No news on other abk titles?
nothing else just that one
You asked if it was just D4. I said yes.
I would assume the four could include more recently worked on titles.
At least we heard something on the abk front
Damnn im waitin for the call of duty games on gamepass 💯
ABK titles honestly to me sounds like a June event thing
Agreed paul
Right I ain’t having this. If this is the official Xbox discord I ain’t having people bully me down for something called an opinion. Calling support
Good luck with that.
Support isn't gunna help you.
Support can't do anything for you rofl
to summarize:
-4 games will become multiplatform, not starfield or indiana jones
-diablo 4 will be on gamepass in march
-twitter overblows everything once again
Also 2 of them weren't meant to be exclusive so
you see Sarah aswell 34million GP subs now
34 million seems like a small number to me though
I’ll check anyway. I keep getting comments removed. I’ll leave it up to the official Xbox team not you lol
I thought they had about 100
subs have been slowing down. it is what it is. dont forget you got people who sub and then cancel
You can either follow moderator instructions or action can be taken. There is no "lemme speak to a manager" here.
Monthly
oh, and people will still somehow find a way to get upset over it
You just got replied to by someone who previously worked for support.
Don't waste their time.
I would have loved a one more thing drop of like final fantasy or something coming to Xbox

yeah its not that type of show though Raven
Previously. Nah I want someone currently in the role and on the phone to me. Which is what I’m waiting for right now.
Yah I know but it is a pleasant fiction 🙂
Gunna get your phone number blacklisted or something for wasting their time. 💀
Phil spencer gonna call you lil bro 💯
I'm super excited to try out Diablo 4 next month.
I was not expecting a release like that with the quickness.
also Sarah didn't say there was new hardware coming this holiday season, I don't remember who posted that, She said more info to share about hardware this holiday season, big difference
I think square would release all 3 games in ff7 remakes first on ps and pc than coming to xbox anytime soon
yeah Xbox tweeted. console and controller options this holiday
Did I miss something? Is D4 coming to Game Pass?
you are correct but holiday seems a really strange time to talk about hardware, You talk about it in the summer and release it in the holiday to maxixe sales,
did they? neat
yeah here it is :- https://x.com/Xbox/status/1758220204272927087?s=20
Xbox hardware will also continue to be a flagship experience for players and for game developers to launch games on with a robust and innovative multi-year hardware roadmap, including more console and controller options for you this holiday.
can't wait for the reviewclickbaitUSA vid talking about how xbox is dead for the 271947.5th time
ooh sounds like some more exciting times ahead! My brother will be very happy with the news that Diablo IV will be playable via Game Pass from March 28th. He wanted to buy that game over Christmas and I may have told him to back off doing that for now. That was a good thing I did 😇
I think he’s hilarious
I can't believe twitter rumors were wrong yet again! how will we recover!
We have beat a dead horse at this point. 😄
well good luck anyway mods, the narrative is about to transform out of proportion yet again
They are always wrong ☠️
I'm okay with more options as long as we're not starting a new gen already lol
I doubt it will be a new gen already but who knows until holidays
xbox will be my favorite preferred controller if they ever add gyro to it
i going to go with a new controller
I hope Xbox makes a steam deck competitor
gyro that the tech that was in the Steam controller? I remember a bunch of praise for that thing a while back
your phone, with the gamepass app
A series refresh maybe like a 2tb model
I doubt its coming soon
Even the xbox fanboys are panicking thinking "oh no, what if it's halo and gears". Pretty sure they aren't "small games"
an xbox handled would be great but I just cant see them doing it. Everyone already has a xbox handheld its called your mobile phone
But I feel they should've revealed what the 4 games are to be specific instead of kinda fueling up the gasoline
There's most likely contractual issues preventing announcement atm
no, they want the studios to announce,.. its same as when a game leaks. all that hardwork and planning goes to waste
Analyzed it.
2 of the 4 are community driven titles the other 2 are smaller titles
A handheld would likely have a bigger screen than my phone, and I would hope controllers attached vs having to bring a separate controller. I think there would be a market for it
plus those teams likely want to have a say when
That's what they said. And people are panicking over halo and gears for Christ's sake.
seriously nothing is changing. back to work as usual
I hate that for the people involved. Presentations and marketing all ready, just to be spoiled
you analyzed something phil spencer himself said?
For the first two, one of them got to be Sea of Thieves. The other has to be live service related. AoE, Grounded, Halo Infinite are some possibilities.
Yep. I hate to guess which games going to ps5 and switch.
Yes.
that could work out pretty expensive going by the current price for one of the expansion drives and if it was to be a refresh will probably cost more than the Series X did at launch as it would likely be packing newer hardware. Please be an Xbox console with 3D V Cache technology on the CPU. That stuff on desktop CPUs has been game changing (pardon the pun hehe)
no point guessing, just let them announce them when ready
Arctic dont forget leaks/rumours are still a thing nothing was announced.
The other are smaller titles. That's going to be easier to spot. Battletoads, Pentiment are some I can come up with. I don't know if Tell Me Why was ported or not.
I know. It's purely speculation on my side
Really glad to hear that. Cause if they put most of their exclusives even a year late on rival consoles. They would kill their console business
Tell me why isn't ported
Im still waiting for the indiana jones fr fr
But he did say those details about the 4 games
yeah but Kylie did say rules are still applied in this server
It's xbox and pc
He confirmed it won't be. Same with Starfield.
well i cant say fully since they didn't announce it but i sure you know where i going.
No, I mean coming to gamepass
And he worded newly made franchises too. Like first in entries
And be released ofc
Said Day one initiative will continue too.
Call of duty is also coming to gamepass yeahhh
Diablo 4 on Game Pass makes sense now. The game lived enough to now try on Game Pass
They didn't say that, right? And is it day one too?
only came out June last year I think
Yeah. The time period has been exhausted
They said activision blizzard game will come to gamepass soon
But did he word COD as Day One?
I didnt say day one I just said about cod in general
New games day one they said
yes all games day 1
So maybe next cod
That reminds me, Jedi Survivor should be heading to Game Pass soon
That part is accurate. At least for older CODs anyway.
Yeah but that dont mean cod specifically it could mean crash spyro etc as well
Exactly. I think ABK would profit better on NOT putting it to game pass anyway.
It could mean any game
From that company
I think COD will remain untouched
all games day1 isnt something new i not sure why people stuggle with this 
Yeah
Fr. Cod day1 only if phil or sarah make that decision about any future cod games in a future announcement
I like what Phil said about letting the companies run their own announcements. Everyone involved gets to have their own exciting launch. I'd be incredibly sad if they leaked before they were able to do that
yeah should always be like that
Fr
exactly. I hate seeing wind taken out of their sails because of leaks
i have had plenty of reveals ruined because the people responsible let something slip too early and i imagine it sucks just as much if not more for them
except WoW, probably
Probably hear more news during xbox e3 replacement show in june
same, though I do like to take a peek at these leaks I know not to go by what they say. Same goes for PC hardware rumours. That stuff is wild and gets out of hand way too quickly. Still excited for whatever gets announced over the course of this year, as with any year gone by 
Yah interested to see what the 4 games are. I wouldn’t mind seeing sea of thieves on switch
Yeah but that just speculating. But who knows rn
As it stands, speculation is alright, but that may or may not change.
And yeah, I feel like Sea of Thieves would make perfect sense to go to Nintendo hardware.
PlayStation too, sure, but it feels like it would have a good home on the Switch (or whatever it would release on if this was the case).
Yeah that sounds right.
I think it would make sense to open it up to more gamers and fill servers.
Big facts.
Plus it needs more servers if that happens
MCC on PlayStation would be good to bring up player numbers. I’d get it again just to get the trophies.
The verge interviewed Phil https://www.theverge.com/24073666/microsoft-gaming-phil-spencer-interview-ps5-switch-games
Hi-Fi Rush feels like it would do super well for on-the-go gaming as well. Not just Nintendo, but I'm wondering if Xbox has any plans for a mobile version. Kinda had this feeling long before this whole thing started that it might be a solid idea and then the rumors blew up and I was like 'well can I even mention this as an idea now?' 💀
Just feels like it would be a fun idea on phones.
Maybe state of decay 2
On the mobile side, you’ve also talked about an Xbox mobile store and the potential for that. Is that still happening this year, what’s the status of that?
There are three sides to it. There’s regulatory work to actually open up the ability to install another store on an Android or an iPhone, which isn’t done yet. We’re actively engaged in the Digital Markets Act, and the work that has to happen to make that possible. Then there’s us actually building the store. We have some history there from having our own mobile store in the past. So we know how to go get that work done.
They really want mobile
MCC would be fire on PS, but frankly, I feel like that's too much of a stretch.
Doubt mcc on ps.
Yeah they would probably want to ease people into the idea first maybe
Outer Worlds would feel right at home on PS, at least in my opinion. I know that's an older game so it might not even be considered, but...¯_(ツ)_/¯
We still need to hear about games like state of decay 3 from e3 2019 that is radio silent
Yep
Outer worlds was made by obsidian
kylie killed chat again 😅
Interview with Phil. https://www.theverge.com/24073666/microsoft-gaming-phil-spencer-interview-ps5-switch-games
He also said that they had exciting stuff to show this holiday hardware related
Yah I’m not ready to upgrade since I have so many consoles. But maybe in 2026 I can start switching. I really hope they aren’t as scarce this time around.
So I can feel a bit more confident in getting a Series X
Depending on the game, I have a specific platform in mind for each one.
I'm hoping cross saves will be enabled for these titles across Xbox and PlayStation. If they use Microsoft accounts I
Maybe
This is why gamers need to keep pushing for cross-play. Extends the lifetime of a game instead of shrinking communities within silos, everyone who enjoys gets to enjoy it together.
Outer Worlds was published by Private Division and was in progress before we acquired Obsidian.
So, when we get FF7 now? lol
No
Unless you mean Outer Worlds 2
I hope they show in their roadmap that Xbox Play Anywhere will be getting a lot more games and xCloud will start to be able to play games you own
So hyped for Diablo 4 in March. I almost bought it when it was on sale tbh, glad I didn't.
i only played d2 a bit on pc back in the day
Not sure if D4 will be on pc gamepass as well but that would be interesting as it’s the first blizzard app game on Gamepass.
Wonder if they would just make a separate windows store version or just link games to the Battle.net app
Cool, will be interesting to see how they handle it as a Windows store version or just linking to Battle.net app like with EA games.
Well, Activision Blizzard has recently been adding their games on Steam, like Diablo and CoD, so they're already part of the way there.
Well, just watched the 4 minute summary on CNET during my coffee break.
Extremely happy with the direction they're heading.
I hope people learn not to trust leaks / rumours.
Spoiler: They won't learn.
Yep, silly me thinking they would change. 🙈
Not only will they not learn to not believe all the rumors in the future but…
They still haven’t learned not to believe all the rumors from the past week. There are still idiots doubling down on the foolishness and not believing the press conference lmao
like ed i wonder how r they gonna play d4 on pc game pass. will it be like any other pc game or games that require a third party app like riot/ea/ubisoft games
I liked what I heard. They plan to continue and expand on what I love about Xbox. And opening games up to more people where it makes sense sounds good to me, don't mind at all.
A huge Cross-Play playerbase is especially important for live service games like Sea of Thieves.
Assuming it's gonna be SoT: I have two friends on PS/Switch only that are very interested in it, would love to play with them.
Basically when smaller games have reached their potential on Xbox they might go to other consoles. It not a big deal. Unless they start bringing flagship stuff which they basically said no. They want to keep Xbox healthy they said. The only way to do that is to keep the big titles on Xbox and pc only
Yep
and thats what they always said case by case basis since they brought Bethesda and this come up then and was addressed at the round table. Nothing as changed and they been saying it ever since
That's also sorta what Sony is doing with PC games, I don't understand why people jump to immediately assuming the worst of any kind of change, and you know what they say about those that assume
I'm not super ingrained in Sony's community, so correct me if I'm wrong but Sony's community doesn't seem to immediately assume Sony are self destructing every time there's some form of discussion about the future of Sony.
True
should be a good event hopefully we get some dates for things especially Test Drive Unlimited
I remember TDU2 vividly, that game needs a remake
yeah they bringing out a new game this year.. 1:1 map of downtown Hong Kong I think it is. called TDU: Solar Crown. just waiting on a release date was delayed out of last year
there will be a stream after Nacon finishes to talk about Greedfall 2.
i just want perfect dark news
won't really happen at a Nacon event
oh of course lol
If you're looking for someone to play with, please go to #1094715375884697600
That logo says onacon and I can’t be convinced otherwise
What is with this channel lighting up a billion times a day?
Spammers
For some reason they now gravitate to this channel and stop here, instead of posting in as many channels as they can before they get muted.
probably see it as the newest channel since a lot of them are hooked into bots using stolen user-accounts. at times too
Apex season 20 is great
Sleight of Hand. Game Pass.
did reflector make anything else before?
Will we be seeing anything on Palworld?
Yay!!! A servival game on an alien planet
This looks interesting. Coming to Game Pass too.
not sure. they are owned by Bandai Namco Europe for that Unknown 9 Awakening game
Damn, it has cloning
That looks very cool.
Nice game. Must play.
Ooh, new story work from Rihanna Pratchett.
I thought it was a Rihanna project 😅
She's done a lot of great writing work for video games.
I'm not familiar with the name
w pfp
i love funko
Doesn't have anything that stands out yet
Terry Pratchett's daugther, the creator of Discworld. She wrote the Tomb Raider reboot.
looks decent might play. also Game Pass
Ah
oh sorry forgot to put my monocole on gentlemen 🧐
Roblox?
what was the 'cloning' games name?
Alters
Alters
haha, if I has waited 10seconds I see they showed it again. Thank you
yeah Alters all by myselves
let me know when something big happens
Oh nice, Frogwares made the Sherlock Holmes games and the Sinking City.
Watch it and find out
This game looks good. I love the use of the Waterphone.
Big things already happened.
'big' depends on your preference. I've seen a few games of interest now
yeah same plenty of interesting things here
Everything but the Roblox game has been super interesting to me.
I loved Sinking City
I already missed some. Can you start it form the start on YouTube or gotta wait till video is over?
Hmm, I need to take a look at that
You can start from the beginning. Just make sure the "LIVE" button bottom left is not highlighted.
Ok ty. I'll still be a few in middle of a fight In callisto protocol 😛
FFXIV full relesase on March 21st. You don't need to wait long @inland rock
Starter bundle is available through Game Pass perks
PC games 'refined for console' always make me nervous
im invisible in this server bro
yeah this is Stalker.. only know cause it was on Twitter earlier as going to console... might play this. its a triple pack of games.
Stalker 2 going be cool game.
these are the original games?
we can see your messages
Wait, why did it say it was captured on Xbox via back compat. Which game was that?
guys series x or s
yeah original games and out today.. nice
Today!
im debating
This is a channel to discuss the current Xbox showcase, Go to #general-chat
yall seem like pros
What is games events?
so what's your opinions
shark monster truck...yay
@shadow blade Go to #general-chat please
ah cool another Monster Jam
there is an xbox partner showcase on currently, we're watching it
Link to the showcase!
Like free games?
Some are "free" if you have Game Pass.
Okay
Interesting to see DLC being included with Game Pass.
They've landed a banger of a deal on those Persona games.
I hope we see a release date for Alters soon. That's the one that's really got my interest the most so far from this show.
Ah nice, that Creatures of Ava is also Game Pass. I didn't see that noted on the trailer, unless I looked away when that was shown.
#TheAlters will launch later this year on PC and consoles.
Watch the Gameplay Reveal Trailer: https://t.co/8WwuWlZKJE
What if, in order to survive you need a skilled team and you’re just Jan? #AllByMyselves
The alters reminds me of Detroit: Become Human for some reason
Cool, a metroidvania
I'm still confused why that Stalker trailer showed that part of it was recorded via backwards compatibility.
yeah I noticed that too
Ah, okay, I guess that explains it then.
short and sweet. I like these events
Yep, no waffle, all trailers, done.
couple things there for me.. next stream is the 21st the Future Game Show.
I wonder is stalker trilogy on pc
that's this month, okay
Yep, keeping an eye on Unknown 9, Sleight of Hand, The Alters, Creatures of Ava and Sinking City 2.
Main one there for me though is The Alters. That looks excellent.
Nothing really caught my eye.
For me is reloqd dlcs and stalker trilogy
same. I already sent off my request to review it lol
No palworld 😭
What was that tales game is that related to the tales seriez?
Palworld is already out and on Xbox, unless I'm missing something. WHy would they show it?
Full release i guess
interesting that the p3r expansion pass is specifically labeled for being for ultimate. will it be an ultimate only perk?
I think only ultimate gets it for free everyone else needs to pay for it
How would you guys rank the Partner Showcase? A, B, C, or D?
Seems like it. Makes sense as DLC is rarely on Game Pass.
Why do we need to rate it? Why can't we just be excited and happy for new video games?
Nope. The image above shows what is on Game Pass from the show.
i feel like as soon as that becomes available:
A. people will beg more than often here
B. people will try to sell codes more than often here
Oh well
because a full expansion pass in perks day 1 is pretty big lol
Opinions do matter
my opinions is that there was lots of great things I'm looking forward to
rating things get silly and argumentative. Especially when we are in a gaming sphere and anything 7 or less is 'trash' apparently
how do you even grade gaming presentations a low score
"ooohhh the thing i wanted wasn't here!! who cares if other people are happy!! D tier...."
for sure. There are a few that don't interest me either but I love seeing people excited about them
Agreed. I wont play the capcom one but i will play stalker trilogy and persona dlcs
I was interested in maybe half of the games shown. That doesn't mean the show deserves a C rating. Cool games were shown, so I'm happy.
i think the only time i could dislike gaming events is if they pull crap like the game awards "please wrap it up"
What I wasn't interested in, plenty of other people will be, so wins all round.
but that's pretty much impossible if the event is only announcements
wait, the p3r DLC is included with game pass?
with ultimate, looks like it
Ah, reading more about Sleight of Hand, it's a deck builder, so I'm a little less interested in that.
Wooo!!! That's a lot sooner than I thought! Will have to get ready and finish up my other games then. I tress this was part of the event today?
yeah
Nice!
Once ff14 goes full release on xbox do u need a sub for it like pc and ps?
yeah I think you need a GP sub to play.
Core or ultimate more than likely
Well, you also do need a FF XIV monthly subscription
(Which at least is cross platform)
True that. Which is great if I want to play on the go on my Surface, even if at potato graphics
some parts of FFxIV are free for gamepass i think though you dont needs a sub for everything.
Saw as a Game Pass perk you get the Starter edition, which granted, is famous for being extremely generous in how much it gives players for free
Ah wait, confused the free trial and the starter edition
Free trial gives you pretty much unlimited playtime and several expansions, but doesn't let you amass too much money or use the trading boards.
Starter version includes the same content without those restrictions, but after 30 days you gotta pay monthly
oh i see
Free trial doesn’t let you get a room in a house either maybe?
right yeah found this https://freetrial.finalfantasyxiv.com/na/#beginnersupportSection