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I wouldnt be surprised if they move a rune thats already on a pair of gloves or chest or legs, etc.. to a different slot in future phases cause some of the runes seem like they would go so well together but they are on the same slot or a worse option.
I think of other clases with this comment but id love to use.sunfire and mangle in PvP xD feral so bad in PvP unless ur insta killing :(
Any thoughts on new resto runes and what we will be looking at for resto druids? Wasn’t gonna main it then I got epic staff 🫠
@sleek island its pretty meme but it also gives you some form of mana regen on either melee hit or melee crit
New to classic/sod and just learned, that there are bis feral hands from leatherworking. Will that be true for phase 2 as well? Not sure if I have to swap to leatherworking
the gloves which exist now in SoD didnt exist the same way in original classic
so no one knows, I personally would assume that there are at least some very good LW items for druid
I dont mind good, but "absolute bis and you are trolling if you arent doing lw" is kinda ugh
its classic in the end it doesnt matter
True, still takes away some of the fun
I like it
the more annoying part is imo engi
but guess everyone kinda knew beforehand that you are absolutely trolling not picking it
guess i stick to being a filthy casual then 
There is no reason to take this game even remotely seriously.
pushing numbers can be fun same reason why some ppl care about numbers on farm in retail
not relevant content at all but its fun
i have fun to maximize what i play (rarely something meta though aka eternal windwalker main)
but yea, classic/sod is just4fun, just taking things easier this time
Retail actually has buttons to push though. Classic is 90% buffs/consumes and the other 8 DPS doing the same.
For resto druid in SoD is the wowhead list bis or the zockify? Wowhead says stack intellect and dont care about the healing power. For example skip pvp ring
Almost all your healing is wild growth which overheals. More mana is more wild growths
Really you just stack spell damage and starsurge on CD or after each WG (to avoid 5s rule)
BIS lists are going to be trash throughout classic because what is BIS depends on the use case
In general, I would trust wowhead over other sources for resto as the author is a reliable source (classic discord mod)
mana good
coefficients not great and overhealing common yap
zockify seems to change with top parses but isnt perfect, either way its a great way to scratch the surface of itemization
Why does Balance Druid prefer the Leather Void Touched crafted item over the Cloth one? The cloth effect seems better and is recommended for Resto Druid (and my Ele Sham :P)
doesnt the cloth one reduce your dmg done by 30% during it?
Does tiger's fury exist in Season of Discovery?
It’s a button you should not press
You pretty much only ever use it if you're fighting something immune to bleeds
It snapshots so you could potentially use it to buff bleeds but AFAIK it's a loss so you dont.
Hello,
I have a question I just got two set pieces recently with the hammer from raid and I notice the dmg of mangle or basic attack almost didn't even change like I went from 40 to 45 and mangle hits still for like 100. I wonder if it's bug or it's just the weapon maybe scale differently but the dmg is really unnoticeable, I tried even with buffs as I always raid with them but the dmg of basic attacks or mangle just didn't even change at all, maybe the question is how much 86 attack power could possibly add to damage
You use as you run up for your initial hits and during transitions if ur max energy. Some other niche timings but its something you figure out for yourself when u miss mangles because of partial energy returns
The numbers are small but its an increase of damage on very fast occuring hits. My mangle without this weapon does on average 99. With the mace it goes to average of 114. No crits ofc. Also your white hit increasing by 5 is a big deal! thats 5 more damage PER hit (your attack speed is 1.00) so thats 5 dps just from white hits
You mangle ever 2.25 seconds over the course of a fight cause you have 2 mangles then a GCD is spent on powershift so for MY mangle which DOES increase by 15 damage its a 6.7 dps increase for me, and should be for you too. So its like a raw 11-12 dps increase for one single item. Thats a big deal, if you were doing 180 dps before you would go to around 190. And thats not including .6% crit and WF procs which are also benefiting. AND WF increases the ATTACK POWER benefit of the WF swing by 20% which is something too
Thank you, I just didn't feel like my dmg would go up, it sort of stand still the same at least for the eye it feel that way as 63or 68 is like so hard to feel like boost but I get it it's just hidden
And dont forget 30% of ALL THAT DAMAGE from savage roar too
for resto druid, what would be better overall? I feel like Spire is a little bit ahead because of the significant healing boost and even some dps? Dont really have any mana problems in BFD anyway, so idk if those 6 int and few mp5 will be a huge loss.
Ideally ur using wrath a lot for instant touches with rune and wild growth. You definitely favor int and mp5 but wrathful spire this late into phase is better DPS. If ur guild or ur PUG is pumping and easily at that by kelris, id use spire, but if its still rough... lorekeeper
The reason ur not going oom is the speed everyone who has raid down enables the fights to be, especially in pugs. People using right runes and have better gear than many weeks ago..
unless u have a sus raid with alts.
Lore keeper is better for pure healing
Spire is better if you never oom and press wrath / starsurge
Yeah thats a better way to look at it ^ Either way I would expect it to be wrath spam for more resto atm since people avoid damage better ... usually
So are we going tailor or LW p2 for moonkin
Who knows, we don't know anything about p2 except we get more new stuff and gnomer is a 10 man
That's all we know
to the SoD resto and balance druids here, will you stick to Tailoring for phase 2 or go back to Leatherworking? I'm kinda worried that Leatherworking will get a better resto/balance epic this time and generally better leather caster recipes. Can't decide 😄
Holy shit they banned gdkps? Finally, whats the go to druid leveling for s2?
Balance is looking really good for leveling again
I'll go feral tho I've been waiting forever to finally get Dash and Feline Switness in my main build
Both runes they showed look real good obviously I'm more interested in King of the jungle that will be so good I'm super excited
Think with the new tigers fury change, omen might fall to wayside as picking up big talents in the feral tree might be a dps increase?? LoTP and mongo AP boosts and reduced energy cost on mangle and shred seem like it might be better then the omen procs
Oh yeah for sure at least for p2 Omen will be put on the side
I'm not sure about Leader of the pack as Furor is so strong for dps
Oh wait I haven't checked the profession updates, are we gonna be able to get Wolfshead helm in the end?
I don't even remember the requirements but in p2 we're getting 225 cap on leatherworking, correct?
That should be it I think
edit: nvm we're not getting profession specs but there's a bunch new helms

No wolfshead this phase pretty sure, but ya furor will be hard to choose between… I dunno, gonna be some serious number crunching needing to be done
I kinda hope we get good alternative as helmet w9th the new sets/crafts I never really enjoyed powershifting that much
Imagine something like "you gain 4% rage regen per second for each second you've been in cat form, up to 20%" just making the passive regen much more potent
That'd be awesome
They data mined all the runes already
On PTR? I wouldn't take anything for granted they probably added a bunch of runes that won't be used for phase 2, if at all
Also I was talking about the crafted helmets here, that was only a thought anyway
when we hit 60+ in wotlk we skip the heirloom wep and pick up w/e we get with +ap in cat form i assume?
no
so we get imp barkskin rune at 40 but we learn barkskin at 44?

I really hope these runes aren't in their final state
as dev said "everything on the PTR is subject to change" well I hope it's the case
they're not. there are redundant runes and some that are for abilities we dont have at 40
I know everything is subject to change and I might be overreacting but this isn't looking good at all for feral overall
right?
like outside of bringing wild strikes there's no point in having ferals in raid
and for pvp you'll prob want one for flag carrying but as for dd feral is completly out of the picture now I'm guessing with rogues getting so much power on top of what they already had
in the other hand, balance is looking great isn't it? I don't know much about the spec, it could be fun to give it a go maybe
What makes you think it's bad for Feral?
Correct me if im wrong, +65% damage mangles at 17.5 energy costs during cd windows with a proc chance of tigers fury resets. I can't see what the cd of berserk is
Says 3 second cast but it probably meant instant because you can't cast while feared
3 sec cast would be putting the rune on my bad
Well feral is currently behind other classes on a lot of points, don't get me wrong there's positives and it's not like completly trash
Also I didn't say these runes were bad, just that when you compare to the crazy powercreep these other classes are getting from their own new runes, I hardly see how feral can compete anymore
as I said previously, sure we're bringing wildstrikes in raids and are able to carry flags in wsg, but it feels kinda bad if that's pretty much all we're good for
I might be wrong tho, please don't hesitate to tell me I'm delusional and everything will be fine
Only for alli side as well lol
I'm not a veteran of the game so I don't have like a perfect knowledge of the class and all, but that's classic, the builds and the game overall aren't super technical and I think I can read numbers and from what I see it's really not looking in our favour
See what happens I guess
I might just be overreacting
also either way even if it's not the gratifying situation, I know that with wild strikes alone I have a permanent spot in raid
The cooldown will either be 3 or 2min
the Berserk ability from MoP was 3min cd for 20sec duration
it didn't have the exact same effect but pretty similar
since the rune in SoD has a 15sec duration I wouldn't be surprised if the cd was 2 or 2.5min
well even 3min would be decent enough
okay how the fuck
does gore or zerk make any sense for bear if lacerate and mangle are on the same slot
I wonder if King of the Jungle is also gonna remove Tiger's fury energy cost
cause it's now giving 60 energy, but it changes everything if it keeps the 30 energy cost to begin with
That sounds about right
The leg slot is really awkward tho
lacerate vs mangle really annoys me
how is leg slot awkard
its hand slot thats awkard
Idk I'm not sure if I really like skull bash all that much
sure it's useable on melee
nothing else is good for bear on that slot
but the range is smaller than feral charge, also costs more rage and locks out of the spell school for half the time
also for 1 point on 3rd row of talents feral charge is a pretty good investment so you're not like gaining a huge advantage in saving that point
yeah that's what make it awkward to me, the only useable rune turns the skill into a kinda-worse version
well not worse but different and I'm not sure if I really like it
I think it's just that lacerate is an awful skill compared to mangle and they understood that after phase 1 release, so in phase 2 they just choose to ignore the ability all together and give Mangle stuff
ehhh
with berserk it's a no brainer
read this and tell me they expect mangle and lacerate to be on the same slot
Oh wait
it just dosent make sense
what the fuck you right
YES

Ok that changes everything LMAO
well I guess bears will have to swap hand runes between single target and cleave fights
that kinda sucks I agree
well you can see it that way: that's a lost rune, but if you look at feral or balance, it's the wrist rune that's pretty much lost, you won't really use either Frenzied regen or Lifebloom
maybe frenzied regen in pvp I guess
Good shit 🙏
Cat form thrash is there as well lvl1 with a rune thumbnail @torn token
No way real?
honestly i think feral stocks are up, maybe just not as much as boomkin
If that's real that's actually big
Tbf that's deserved, boomkins were down atrocious in p1
Well obviously at lvl 25
yeah they're finally mostly online by 40
we made do without ferocious bite though, it didn't feel good but i'm hopeful for p2 with king of the jungle and other QoL stuff
im looking thru the list now and there's so much good stuff coming
No Dash, not able to get feline swiftness on dmg dealing build
Sadly, nothing will ever hit hard enough to take SotF
how feral lookin right now boys?
Imo I feel ferals are gonna pump, people sceptic but I got a feeling we’re gonna be doing some big damage when we have crowd pummeler
Yes 100% will
probably gunna adjust it, easily could put lacerate on legs or something
Sadly.. I think next phase talents will look like this...
I think im gunna puke cause its so fucking awkward
But with berserk and king of the jungle we definitely shift less, but pretty sure we will still will be shifting
And ofc balance is WAY too expensive to go to OoC let alone natural weapons, so its either powershift or +16% more strength and party wipe 3% buff. I am curious if we go LotP or Furor. Also super curious how king of the jungle will interact with powershifting, if it loses the buff when you shift like normal tigers fury then itll be important to shift once or twice before you use the first tigers fury and maybe even berserk at the moment to combine benefit to let 15seconds of spirit regen ur missing mana cause fights might be too short to use twice O.O
considering it's still a melee focused meta and how strong other melees will be, at least in raid we will most likely have to go Lotp
now for personal dmg furor might be higher, not necessarly by a huge margin especially in longer fights, Heart of the wild will also start to get decently strong even at lvl 40
Now for pvp Furor will probably be straight up better
we'll have to wait and see what runes/gear is confirmed cause they might just change some runes completely
Well its important to note that if you lose 30% of your dps, ur not increasing theirs by enough
Fights should be 1minute 30ish at start of phase and end up probably 30-60 when people are geared
I think if its full BiS raid parsing, its LotP, early though, furor is our only way to stretch damage
Don't get me wrong I didn't say we were going to do no dmg, or that we will be useless, it's just that other classes that already perform slightly better in some situations are getting runes (still unconfirmed) that look even better for them that what we're most likely getting
I may just be sceptical and things might be alright I just like to be prepared to the worst, just in case
Im just saying, no matter how you spin it, our tree gunna kinda suck :(
We will definitely to extensive testing when it releases and we get all cards in hands but I have the feeling that trading Furor for Savage fury+ HotW+ Lotp isn't gonna be a 30% dps loss
But we will figure it out, definitely too much to speculate
I’m excited for the number crunching
I don't wanna throw numbers out of nowhere but if I had to guess I'd say probably closer to 10% which isn't that big of a deal unless you're farming nine-nines
Yeah might be right and berserk doesnt really work well with power shifting
Yaaaa lvl 40 is an awkward place to be for a lot of classes actually
not shaman! they are so beautiful this phase O.O
How long does new tigers fury last
just like 25 was, some key abilities/talents always appear just a few levels after
6 seconds?
ya
I have a feral, a rogue, and a priest. And I’m most excited for pve on feral, and pve on priest and druid
PvP on rogue*
Oh ya shamans are looking awesome which is a shame since I've been a shaman player for a loooong time but joined my mates late when they already chose alliance side 
well we have shockadins now though
all the runes are very shaman-esque in a way
Idk I see paladins really moving towards a caster melee dps, kinda neat
paladins looking great
for me the survival hunter runes looks interesting, the only downside is that survival tree is so bad
I broke it down pretty hard with a buddy, hunter runes seem very neat but its like all over the place imho
but pure beastmaster is crazy
or at least supported
Rest is kinda mishmashy, idk what they want, melee ranged hybridization? Idk hurts to look at imho
But itll be neat to see what hunters do?? Idk
Idk for surv it's nice they started pushing the trap gameplay, but it's still missing something idk
Yeah I agree
maybe give melee stuff a chance to reset trap cooldowns, stuff like that
Its missing, sacrifice ur pet on the battlefield by disembowling it, fearing your enemies and giving you an attack buff, movespeed, and crit.
New bow has 50 strength chance on hit
if that procs, dont go into melee O.O
might be a truck waiting for you
it always seemed crazy to me that surv hunter doesn't have like a 5pts talent to give em 5.000% movement speed
I gotta go nap, but I expect furor to be BiS, BUT I want powershifting to not be better yes cause I like to maybe not powershift constantly like im having an aneurysm and yep
how is the "swift hunter" archetype not the fastest guy around
I think it'll be fine not playing furor
worst case you lose 10-15% dps? at lvl 40 and in leveling raids like gnomeragan it's really nothing
we'll still be clearing the raid in 20-30min pretty early and the crit bonus will be appreciated by big warriors and rogues so that's fine
have we discussed that
sorry if that was already posted somewhere
I seem to have missed that
Mangle and Lacerate cost reduced in bear form that's pretty good
also 1hr duration on MotW 
I really hope they separate mangle and lacerate
either that or just put lacerate also on the Berserk ability
then it's just a rune swap for mangle/lacerate depending on the encounter
which is fine I think
in each case you'd have a rune that's not really doing anything, but same goes for dps specs with the bracer slot
i have a question
rake is always giga pointless for feral right?
i know the tooltip is not accurate, but it feels like it does less damage than mangle over a long duration
Rake is a waste of energy and gold
tragic
wouldnt mind if devs just buffed the numbers on it
so its at least worthwhile pressing the damn thing haha
tailoring or leatherworking for resto/balance in P2?
No one knows
I'm really bad at making macros, can someone help me with a simple macro please
I'd like one to have Feral Charge replaced by Skull bash when I have the rune equipped
is that possible?
Oh wait a minute we're not getting head and bracer runes in phase 2
are we
in the announcement they only talk about feet and waist runes
that means no Gore for feral
probably not, but even if that sounds like a bad idea
youd still wanna charge at times
yeahhh after looking at them for a bit I came to this conclusion as well
this is probably what im going to be using, not sure if its good
you're missing out on blood frenzy and predatory strikes
that's a crazy amount of dmg loss
just to get clearcast procs
I'm probably going for something like that
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/talent-calc/druid/-55000213232021-05_156pa66v476pf86v5a6pm
I value Feral charge for pvp and I don't wanna have to respec twice a day but you can just take it out and put a point in HotW for 4% str
10% physical dmg + clearcasts isn't useless either. blood frenzy isn't too insane yet at this stage. predatory strikes is 60 ap.
0/26/5 is what I've seen passed around on druid discord but respecs are cheap and sim will be updated eventually
with monobear expecting to go 0/31/0
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Hi there ! i have a question maybe someone know there (sorry in advance it's a question about classic, and not druid specific). Wednesday the P2 come out. So we can up lvl 40. If i finish all the quest from dungeon or quest with big XP before wednesday, can i keep it done on my quest journal and just valid them on wednesday and have all the XP and ding 26 maybe ? ^^
Probably
I hear some people have like 90k exp in quests ready to turn in on phase 2 release
No clue if it'll work
It probably will
But it's on a weekly lockout week 1 and 2 so less incentive to go crazy
Ok thx for this feedback 🙂
Yes, you can do quests in advance and save the turn-in. People did it for TBC classic launch. A good alliance strat would be to be logged off at Ashenvale. Turn in those quests. Hearth to Duskwood. Turn in those quests. Fly to SW and run Stocks until you are high enough level to move towards SM or go to a new quest area.
its thursday, not wednesday
Kinda depends on if ur eu or na
Wait, i just woke up, please dont hurt me... Its Thursday, not Wednesday.
maaan idk if I should stick with Tailoring or go back to Leatherworking for P2 (resto/boomie) Y.Y
depends on what gear is coming in p2 for professions
ok I swapped to leatherworking, the new epic helm just seems to be better and who knows what specializations will bring in P3, hopefully better boomie/resto items from leatherworking then
Does OoC have an internal CD? i never thought it did but idk
Did they reduce the range of starsurge or was it always 30 yds?
they reduced the range
Hi all! Dumb question from a new Druid player. I'm playing SoD and saw a Feral druid use moonfire in cat form, how does one accomplish this? Every time I try I get taken out of cat form. Sorry for the silly question
One of the fires 🤣
New to the class so not 100% sure. I just know he was casting one of them in cat form
Sup my fellow tree huggers. Just a question what professions should i run in my feral. Immo been thinking on going leatherworking enchanting for output and having a mage alt to aoe farm those leathers but not sure. What do you guys think?
Also alchemy seems very good with the irradiated pots that give us health mana ap so for additional powershifts but not sure
Also i wanted ti ask how beserk interacts with powershifting. Does the buff stick with you or fades after you go out of cat form
Thank you!
Season of Discovery Macros:
Single form-agnostic macro for Sunfire/Mangle/Lacerate, will cast the one you have engraved currently: #showtooltip Hands Rune Ability /startattack /cast [form:1] Lacerate /cast [form:1] Mangle(Bear); Mangle(Cat) /cast [noform] Sunfire; Moonfire(Rank 1)
That will cast sunfire if you have it slotted in cat form. It replaces moonfire rank 1. It’s jank
Feral changes on new build:
Mangle got nerfed, flat 10% less damage. (300% weapon damage to 270%)
Shred got buffed by 15-20% damage (225% weapon multiplier to 300%)
Feline Swiftness speed now works indoors.
Enrage gives 20 rage immediately, but only 10 over time.
Omen lasts 30 minutes instead of 10.
Rake base damage and base dot increased by 50%. Seems to have nontrivial AP scaling.
Gnomer bosses will no longer be immune to bleeds.
Wildstrikes now refreshes the weapon imbue on shifting, and so no longer negatively interacts with powershifting.
Wildstrikes now properly procs off feral abilities such as Shred.
Sunfire (Cat) and Sunfire (Bear) no longer cause your weapon swing timer to reset.
that macro is so weird
oh actually it has to be 3 lines
🤔
or tbh prolly could do it in 2
Yeah, I just trust the smart bears over there. I don’t even play Druid
Shaman gaming this phase
yea im confident in saying 2 lines are enough but needs 2 cause it uses a bit hacky way
Also not mentioned above, enrage is currently bugged and is buffing Armor instead of reducing
Will probably be fixed soon though
Hello what is best leveling spec for wow sod ? Thank you
@gloomy pasture Starsurge spec is best for leveling by a large margin. Go to Wetlands and get this rune at level 1.
Are the feral sims still in alpha?
not yet, I was planning to look after Balance - just did Insect Swarm and Eclipse Rune, I haven't done King of the jungle Rune yet
the rest of the runes are uncofirmed
Are new runes live? Can we get them now?
i think he means in the sim
Sorry sim yeah
why did they change the icons?
anyone know the location of mangle rune in 1000 needles?
anyone find beserk or kotj yet ?
any found balance runes?
for dungeon healing what spells should we be using mostly?.
mangle is a phase 1 rune?
Have any druid runes been found yet? Or the rez spell book?
Has anyone found new balance or resto runes?
anyone else having problems with berserker rune?
i'm gonna need someone to find the Tiger's Fury rune already, please
That is false, green mobs count. You have to be the one getting the killing blow.
New Runes?
I can't seem to getthe zerk rune to activate
Just logged out and lost 4 stacks on my idol of the heckler
Took me 6 pulls to get those stacks too
Don't log out
yeah I dont know what it is, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
I think I might just wait until they inevtiably change it
You need the killing blow and it has to give exp
Any other runes found?
yeah berserk rune is such a pain to get
hey guys, how does Mangle rune interact with Savage Fury talent? do u get 20% or does it double dip?
The pins in this channel has a link to the classic druid discord, they have channels dedicated to season of discovery and runes and stuff
90% sure beserker is broken. Ive done it mutliple times and only have two stacks, doing it the exact same everytime, solo, green mobs, final hit, still doesnt count
Its not broken. I did it last night.
With zero issues. I did 2, 2, and 1. Took three total roars
what level were you when fighting zaineki?
do we know already if Eclipse works with Starsurge?
@tepid urchin 29, me and another feral at 28 had no problem 2 manning
anybody try killing king bangalash in stv for king of the jungle rune ?
Is that the confirmed source or just what we're all thinking?
not confirmed just an idea, wasn't sure if anyone has tried before
i'm going to try in 5 mins or so i'll let you know what happens
I was thinking the same thing and so are a lot of other ferals -- I dont think it would be that easy. I could see it being tied to a talent like pounce/ravage for a higher lvl
Berserk was tied to a lvl 28 ability
Here's how you get berserk: https://youtu.be/U2cZ_XxuXrs
In this Season of Discovery guide I will show you how to get the Berserk rune for druids in phase two of SoD. From finding the Beastly Effigy in Thousand Needles to completing the Idol of the Heckler using Enrage and Challenging Roar.
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just got dreamstate + eclipse. Eclipse works with Starsurge where it triggers the wrath part of Eclipse. It's actually insane
are we thinking boomkin or feral for this phase? whats gonna pop off the most?
Does Balance get any aoe ?
They had to of buffed rake
just got this, can someone explain to me how tf I have both eclipses without casting starfire ever?
It really seems right now, like boomie is going to pop off
Tiger's Fury rune has been discovered:
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1an8dpm/dark_rider_runes_found/
so i killed both of the mobs with the taunt debuff active... im so confused
Starsurge should do it I think
Why
I’m not even pressing starfire
I’m just spamming wrath and ss

This is from the classic druid discord balance channel
What’s ng
nature's grace
any good mana WAs? Mp5
is nourish rune bugged?
no!
@minor wagon I just completed it
Moonglade > Orgrimmar Flight path
Orgrimmar > Zeplin to Undercity
UC, through the water to Arathi mountains - first complete @45 minutes left
Mount from Arathi Mountains > Arathi highlands @39 minutes left
From Arathi Highlands its a mount journey to Wetlands > Badlands > searing gorge > Burning steppes > Redridge (MOUNTAIN SHORTCUT TO SWAMP) > @19 minutes left
Then from Swap through Deadwind past > Duskwood and all the way to the bottom of STV - completed 4/4 @9 minutes left
This was my path as horde
i tried it twice and my buff suddenly disapeared after a while
wihout tping ot dying
If you follow this route it works - you cannot get honorless target
so taking FP to contested zone fucks it
ok
anyone know an optimal route for alliance?
i took flight from moonglade to darn and it removed the buff 😦
even flying to auberdine gave me honorless target this is dumb
how do i get to eastern kingdoms lol
same - I cannot get it to register any kills and have been trying since yesterday. did all the troubleshooting present in wowhead and may try deleting the idol and reacquiring it
How do I make a macro that goes into Bear Form and casts Bash immedietly? without shifting out of it if i spam it or so, and then same but for demo roar and dash
real talk though. Eclipse being constantly casting and making sound over our heads
is this gonna be dealth with. its really annoying to have constantly happening every spell cast
i finnaly got it logged for the night and came back
and was able to get progress after that point
anyone know if i really gotta swap to leatherworking for helm in phase 2 sod? i really enjoy alch/herb but i also like being decent at dmg haha
can somone help me out whats the dps rotation for best feral dps in phase 2?
do i shred or magle on beserk?
may i ask if i'm the only one to think that druid heal is not fun to play ?
yes every single other player plays resto druid
Quick rune discovery question, i'll use spoiler tags in case people dont want to see || For Survival Instinct rune, i caught all 3 bugs but when i turned them in, i didn't get the rune. I'm lvl 30. Am i missing something?||
Wow make rejuv that strong in retail
I think the 70% chance to avoid spell pushback with the eclipse rune is a myth
does anyone know a good resource for a balance/feral guide for SOD P2? most of the guides aren't really up to date in terms of rotation/talents etc, currently just randomly pressing buttons, no idea whats the most efficient way to play
Did they add improved frenzied regen?
Here's a quick guide on how to get the new Dreamstate Rune for my druid bros who are struggling ✊
How to get Dreamstate Rune Quick Guide Season of Discovery - https://youtu.be/c9P2LpwnjPM
In this Season of Discovery guide I will show you how to get the the Dreamstate Rune for druids in phase two of SoD. From looting Desiccated Seed Pod to hydrating it into Satyrweed Bulb, and finally growing this bulb into a Blooming Satyrweed. THIS is how you get your Rune of the Dreamer and more importantly Dreamstate! Sounds like a lot but thi...
Surely starsurge is getting nerfed
So is Nourish impossible to get on PvP servers due to it failing on flight paths?
Can anyone confirm that 70% chance to ignore spell pushback, is actually a thing?
it is reportedly not working
whats with moonfire? deals more dmg than sunfire at high lvl for slightly more mana
I have no clue, go ask in the classic discord SoD server
Anyone got a good feral season 2 rotation and gear list?
Hi, quick question. Im lvl 40 on my druid and am trying to get the Berserk Rune.
Im challenge roaring at least 2 mobs and getting the killing blow, while the taunt is active. but am not getting any inspiration stacks.
does anyone know if its bugged, since I dont get "XP" since im 40? The mobs I tried it on were all green, so technically mobs that would give me XP.
they have to give exp. taunt can resist. you need the killing blow
and dont die or it messes with stuff
am doing all of that, doesnt work. the taunt is visible on their nameplate, so its not resisted.
mby it's bugged becasue he's 40? and that's why he it doesnt work. no exp?
Take it off and put it back on, fixes it for most people
do we have to get the killing blow? it doesnt say that I'm level 30 and I also havent got any insp. stacks from it either been using it on ghost pulls in SM GY runs and also did a couple outside as a solo and never got any (yes all the mobs gave exp.)
I would recommend going to the classic druid discord linked in the pins in this channel
They have more answers and pinned stuff about the runes and how buggy they might be/what possible fixes exist
can confirm this worked for me
is worth to use starfire now?
On the pull if mana isn’t an issue I like to start starfire into star surge into dots into wrath/starsurge
this is what i did when i had issue
Hello druids of SoD. I was sondering if you could possibly give me an idea of the state of feral? Balance (starsuge) is making a big impression atm, but what about feral? I’m a warrior, but every now and then I think about druids because of the flexibility
Nm
They’re two different spells
They updated it to Mangle (Bear) as well so old macros may have broken
Yeah, the changes meesed me up
;./
I'm trying to make an all-in-one macro for myself. It's nice so far but I'm looking to improve it to use Lacerate conditionally:
#showtooltip
/cast [form:3] Mangle(Cat)
/cast [form:1] Mangle(Bear)
/cast [noform:1,noform:3] Wrath
/startattack [harm,nodead]
I would want to edit the bear line to use lacerate conditionally if that spell is known. But when I try to do:
/cast [form:1, known:Mangle(Bear)] Mangle(Bear)
I get "unknown macro option: known". Is there any alternative?
"This is from the classic druid discord balance channel" - where is that channel?
classic server is in the pins
crowd pummeler or or stv mace better for feral?
Anyone able to get nourish rune yet?
Anyone remember enough about cataclysm to remember if feral was viable or am I doing thr swap to balance?
Feral was way more than viable
Pretty sure these are all ferals on world first Nefarian 25 hc
I think moonkin might have been better for the raid on things like Cho'gall (because of pre-placing 3 mushrooms and instant nuking some adds + slowing)
is phase 2 feral rotation looking like, mangle - sr - rake - shred - rip?
But feral was good I believe
wasnt that because of a bug tho?
Its looking a lot more complicated than that.
WTF this insane nerf from starsurge ?
can they also delete rogue that can OS you with ambush ? War too with a charge ? or even Priest with shadow word death ?
Swd for priests got a nerf too
Anyone know of a solid p2 bis list for feral? Just dinged 40 and can't find any where I normally look.
What Wep Enchant would people recommend in Sod lvl 40?
Iron counterweight
Use sixty upgrades. DPS just cares about STR/agi really. Tank just look for total STR/Agi/stam
Is everything Druid for SoD just packed in to this channel?
might find more on the actual classic server but unsure @edgy cradle
There's definitely a lot more on the actual classic discord server, pinned in this channel
So, not sure if this has been mentioned yet, as i JUST joined, but we tested the Crowd Pummeler out to see if the haste would stay when we unequipped it.... It does not, unfortunately. So when you unequip it, the buff fades. Sorry Pallies!
Does anyone know if it's possible to make a conditional macro that uses shred out of "prowl" and pounce when in "prowl"?
Is Feral (Bear) or tank a valid setup at this point SOD phase 2? Would love to hear thoughts and specs
#showtooltip
/cast [nostealth] Shred; [stealth] Pounce
the above would do it 100%, and depending on if u are stealth or not it will literally change icons which is neat.
Bear has two dead rune slots and relatively boring gameplay even for a tank. Despite that, they are still good, desirable for WS and LotP, and got massive indirect buffs with all the haste items this phase
thanks all - this is what I ended up coming up with as well - and works just like you described!
Hello druids. Are you happy with your class? I'm a warrior and in general I'm happy, but I've kind of fallen into the "im just a warrior and the runes aren't that interesting" and then I look at druids having a lot of options and builds/specs. It's so early into the season that I could swap if I wanted, but I'm not sure yet. I played way to many chars (in my own opinion) in phase 1, so I'm really trying not to do it again ^_^
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I have a question I am sure everyone has been asking, but what is going to be the talent setup for Feral for P2 of SoD
or
i would assume
I'm using the first one myself with power shifts, 2nd row in feral tree is optional imo if you want armor or better prowl
if you already have someone else doing FF you can always switch that out for something else too
0/26/5 is personal and raid optimal cat DPS
0/31/0 is optimal for bear
Blood Frenzy is incredibly minor and can be moved elsewhere if desired (bash, charge, bear rage on crit)
Awesome. Thanks a lot. This helps
hey guys,
I have a question about Druid in SoD,
I'm currently @ level 30 and torn between playing Feral cat or Balance. I have gear for both.
for leveling which spec is better for questing/dungeon between the 2?
Both are fine. Play what you want. For dungeons, just play what gets you groups
Tbh, its much closer than you'd imagine. Balance is probably easier level with, but feral gets the movespeed. Both are great 100% For dungeons honestly ur either joining spell cleave or melee cleave. But if you go balance you can just heal instead. Massively increases group chance.
PvP I would say Balance is better, but they did get a decent nerf but probably still better. Feral PvP is doable but I find myself just sunfire spamming mostly(scales with attack power in cat) but we get barkskin rune next phase might help ?
Raids is a toss up. Gnomer raid tbh I already like balance for popping bombs with instant casts, other than that its a caster meta atm but feral in raid is still fine for most guilds.
anyone know if there's a druid trainer in Dun Morogh/Ironforge?
P not, but there is always one in moonglade, and for the rest of this Lunar Festival event you can teleport from moonglade to any major city.
Nope, closest to IF would be SW
Any resto druids know if nourish is worth casting / more mana efficient than HT? (In SoD)
hello guys 🙂 little question for SoD feral p2: if i have the new crafted epic helmet, is it worth to farm the RFD gloves with tiger stats or should I keep the P1 crafted gloves for 2% hit chance with the helmet and they dont share a CD for the on-use
Keep LW gloves for bear. They should not share a CD with helmet
I'd rather farm Jangdor/Pratt's than RFD as I doubt that is a fast solo job
Horde: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=2822/the-mark-of-quality
Alliance: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=2821/the-mark-of-quality
oh the ones from feralas, yea i got those in my bank. but thought since im pretty much done with everything id take the time to go for rfd since they also have nature resistance. but if the pratts are a dps upgrade over the p1 craft ill just go with that
He writes the wowhead resto guide and it should be good. The two feral ones are not written by classic discord so they are not trustworthy
Thanks. I kind of want to keep eclipse as my belt rune because it doesn't seem like nourish is worth it.
Hello, does anybody know a way to see the remaining time of hots in the raid interface please ? An addon ? Ty
does windfury effect stack with iron counterweight enchant? for bear
Yes, ICW is an enchant.
ok, ty
Hopefully a quick question, but when is hurricane worth using?
SOD Feral druid question here
I can't get the Berserk rune unlocked. When I do challenging roar at 2+ mobs and kill them while its active NOTHING happens.... Am I the only one ?!
You have to do it on mobs higher than Level 28 i think it is. I did it on level 30 mobs and that worked
hmm... I swear I saw video on yt dude killed random lvl 20ish mobs in Barrens... Sooo... does entering RFK do the trick?
Anyone could help me out with the current Feral Rotation for SoD phase 2? Im now lvl 40 and really struggle to dps. Is there a good video or written guide somewhere?
Need the killing blow. It needs to give exp. It cannot resist the taunt. At least two must be taunted.
You can make this easier with ezthrow dynamite and pocket healers letting you do it in one go. If you’re not 40, then SM armory guys post-Herod is a very easy way to do it.
If you’re still having issues. Remove the idol. Log off. Close WoW. Relaunch and put the idol back on.
Still being simmed. Get 1pt roar up immediately. Build to 5pt roar. Only rip when it won’t cause roar to drop
Any tips on leveling after star surge nerf? Bout to start an alliance Druid, to eventually be played as feral. Is it better now to level 10-20 as bear because we don’t get star fire until 20?
im sure this has been asked 1000 times, but currently i am running SS, SF, Wrath, Wrath repeat ---- Prior to today I was running SS, Wrath, Wrath, Dots repeat and felt this was doing better than today. Any ideas?
Any druid healers?
Sod bear viable now since changes anyone try it out ?
Anyone got advise I can share with a lvl 35 druid friend healing SM? They say they are OOMing after like 7 casts.
Only use wild growth and healing touch and drink between pulls
Cast wrath always and cast starsurge before/after wild growth to kill packs faster so you have to heal less.
7 casts of wilth growth is generous
ok is healing power just absolutely useless for rdruid
39 spellpower comes out to 17 more healing on wg which is <2% healing increase
HT 4 is your mana efficient spell
‘ey guys. Is this the right place to ask a question about Bears on Era?
Planning on playing SoD. Can someone please check if im able to create a character on the server Lone Wolf EU? Since last time I was about to start the realm was full, so I don’t wanna refill my subscription before I know I can make a character there
super late reply but i just checked and atm you can
Do you guys think it’s worth it as a Bear on Era to move 4 points out of Thick Hide to pick up Blood Frenzy and Imp Shred?
Thick hide is a borderline worthless talent
Cat is godawful to play without imp shred and you should be playing cat every time you're not tanking something
Does anyone know if dreamstate also increases nature damage done by other people?
As alliance?
It should, I believe it doesn’t stack with shaman stormstrike.
let me check agai nfor you
at this moment yes alliance is open
SoD: Not sure what the right channel is so please correct me if this isn’t it.
Having rune issues with macros, mainly /use hand rune ability when power shifting from cat to bear (yes, I add the cat/bear modifier). Willing to msg/post what I have and what I need.
Druid
Lifebloom mana cost reduced by 50%.
Developers’ notes: Lifebloom refunds half its new base mana cost per stack when it expires or is dispelled. This part has always functioned in this way, and we’ve seen a bit of confusion around how the mana return portion of Lifebloom functions.
Living Seed now heals for 50% of the critical heal that planted the seed (was 30%). This heal now blooms from non-periodic healing received, in addition to any damage taken.
Nourish mana cost reduced by 27%.
Moonkin Form now also reduces the mana cost of Moonfire by 50% and increases Moonfire periodic damage by 50%. Sunfire also benefits from this change.
Moonkins can now cast non-healing Restoration spells without cancelling their shapeshift. This includes: Remove Curse, Remove Poison, Abolish Poison, Innervate, Rebirth, Revive, Mark of the Wild, and Gift of the Wild.
Fury of Stormrage improved: when this rune makes Healing Touch instant, it now also makes it castable in all shapeshift forms.
pretty cool changes for lesser used runes for resto
has anyone played around with the dismantle enchant?
Whats the tips for raid healing resto in sod
what ranks of spells am I looking for
to use
when is this going live?
Tuesday
Weekly reset
Moonkin Form now also reduces the mana cost of Moonfire by 50% and increases Moonfire periodic damage by 50%. Sunfire also benefits from this change.
So is our rotation going to implement these now?
both dots ticking for 50% more
I believe so, the actual classic druid discord has more info. It's pinned in this channel
anyone have a macro for belt and helm use? (sod)
Does anyone know if they fixed Nourish quest to where you can flu and land in contested territories
Was not fixed for me yesterday
It was fixed for me like 2-3 weeks ago
has anyone got a WeakAura for the Starfall buff you get from starsurge, its not tracked in the buff section of WA so Im not sure how to display it when its active
Rerolling on SOD from feral cat to balance.... Feral is kind of shit, and raid is so range based.
does this work for bleeds and dots? while it ticks?
afaik dots/bleeds can't crit in vanilla
not sure about wotlk maybe someone else knows
does faerie fire and Homunculi stack
Yes
Sunder Armor and Homunculi are shared
Faerie Fire and I believe the -armor axe from Gnomer are shared
Curse of Recklessness is it’s own
I think curse of recklessness is shared with the fist weapon from last boss though?
thank you. now I can blame others for my parse
Fist shreds resistance. If anything, it’s shared with CoE/CoS but I have no idea on that front
weird question. Does anyone know if its possible to make a weakaura that shows how much mage water/food i have in my bags?
It would be possible yeah
Not sure if you can do it without coding, but it'd be pretty straightforward: total = 0; for each item in your inventory, check if it's mage food / water, if yes increase total by number of items stacked in that inventory slot
I’m sure you can find any consumable tracking WeakAura and swap the IDs for mage food
YO! druid tank question. Im choosing a trinket from UBRS quest
both are "pre" bis. one for mitigation and one is bis for threat. what do i choose?
Current recommendation is damage trinket. Defensive trinket is rarely needed and damage trinkets are hotly contested so there is a good chance you never get another one.
Hey does cat form not auto attack while running? like do i have to stand still to auto attack?
It should, I'm pretty sure only hunters don't with their auto-shot
just cant hear the auto attacking sound but seems to do damage but unsure if thats dots or auto attacks
I think the sound is tied to the animation, and you don't do the animation while running
any1 got the sod druid server ? 🙂
question, i was just playing a WG, and i got sleeped for 8 seconds by a druid while he was in a stun
how did he do that
he even did it twice in like 10 seconds
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=7375/green-whelp-armor
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/spell=2637/hibernate
This green leather armor of item level 35 goes in the "Chest" slot. It is crafted. Added in Classic World of Warcraft. Always up to date with the latest patch.
Forces the enemy target to sleep for up to 20 sec. Any damage will awaken the target. Only one target can be forced to hibernate at a time. Only works on Beasts and Dragonkin.
You always grab Mark of Tyranny. Its the best mitigation trinket for bear, you will replace breath.
You will never replace MoT all of classic.
in sod why does every build I see put 5 points in feral instinct instead of in feral aggression, for a cat dps build?
Because you basically never press bite and even when you do, it’s overall like a <2% damage gain. Meanwhile FI gives you a very strong flex tank role without having to change talents
ah I see ty
It was a bad talent in classic. It is even worse now with Savage Roar existing and Shred getting a massive buff
any good resto druid wotlk builds on here? i use rapid rejuv glyph but being told it is not good
Much more info here
Oh well for some reason I can’t post it. But check the pins in this channel. Has a link to the classic Druid discord
They have a lot more info
classic druid discord
Anyone know any good gold farms for boomies in SoD P2?
does feral have any aoe ability at all? or access to any rune that does aoe?
Cat? no
Bear? swipe is decent now and mangle cleaves during berserk
yo people, just joined the discord - quick question: is this the place to discuss SOD or is there a better channel for that?
Might want to use Druid classic discord
Pinned discord is dedicated to all classic content. Here you just get the few people who are in both answering questions
Hi folks!
Im searching for an uptodate dps rotation for boomie in sod phase 2.
do you know where i can find one?
Pinned discord has dedicated channels for each Druid spec for sod. Check the pins within the balance channel as they have a lot of info in the one post
Any WOTLK Balance druids around?
Druid classic server linked in pins!
Wrong channel, deleted
Classic discord told you to come to retail discord for a classic sod question? The channel you're looking for in there is called #sod-feral-tank
If you don't see this channel then you need to grab the sod roles from roles bot
@dusty jackal
Maul is bad in SoD by comparison. Only press as a rage dump to avoid capping rage
I wanted to thank you guys, turns out I wasn’t clear it was sod and that’s why I was sent here. Did figure it out, just forgot to delete post 🤦♂️.
question for my feral / tank bros
we all got a bunch of items that speed our attack speed up
trinkets gloves weapons etc
my question is, do those buffs stack
and is there any dr? like a cap? or is it hard cap?
also, are there any rumours about moving mangle / lacerate to a different rune slot?
if this lacks context, it's for SoD
How are the Druid specs looking in P3 of SOD?
Boomy only really getting aoe buff with hurricane and maaaybe a dot refresher. Great druid specific items coming from the new nightmare events. Feral looking to get a boost. But overall will be sooo hard to know til we start.
Cool thanks for info
Hey! What does the future of feral look like in Phase 3? 😊
Any auras for feral druid to track rip/rake in sod? the ones i make dont work, the ones i get fro wago io neither :S
Really good! They’re adding in the wolfshead helm buff and automatic crowd pummeler buff as enchants which will mean you can get new gear and have the most powerful feral buffs stay with ya.
And no mech bosses in raid so less armour issues for melee
Hey im playing a Resto in Wotlk and im not sure with my professions till cata
Maybe someone knows Which will be the best in cata, especially for raids
Ing and jc still good?
is there an SOD section?
Not in this discord, but in the pins in this channel you can find a link to the classic druid discord where they do have SOD sections
Ty
Does anybody can share actual classic druid invite link? I have found many links , but they are all outdated…
it's in the pins
Is catnip a permanent item?
its not permanent, its a stackable on-use item
Guys one question, eflorescence rune is for party or all raid
party
Is there a macro for shred and mangle on one button press in sod?
you can't do two actions with one key
anyone know if the talent is bugged?
tooltip is updated by the 35%, buff effect not?
It’s an old bug. Buff tooltip is never updated for any of these similar things
thanks
ok so what is "weapon damage bonus.... what stat is that in pawn???
so does weapon damage do anyhting for me in cat form and ability or is it worthless and i should just focus on a weapoons agility and strenght?
weapon damage does nothing in vanilla no
so just find a weapon with the highest stats i can then???? and what exactly is (bonus) weapon damage @noble forge
dunno might be something like the blacksmithing weights not sure if its on any item
@noble forge it is referring to this type of affix. This is not the same as weapon damage nor is it the same as a sharpening stone.
whats the difference to sharpening stone?
Sharpening stone doesn't work because 🍝
"Equip: " effects work. This is why Hand of Justice actually works for feral (and some of the other new SoD ones)
which differs from "Chance on hit: " like the below, which cannot be proc'd in form
I have no idea how it works
does that mean my new weap from Maraudon with less stats but higher dps is worse than my P2 pummeler/SV event weap even though it's in P3 pre-bis list?
The princess theradras' scepter? That has +attack power in druid forms specifically so that's why it's really good
Although I don't see how it's better than P2 SV weapon
yeah I have pummeller, P2 SV weap and princess' scepter
the zockify feral guide seems wonky
The whatify
idk some website with bis gear lists for all classes, rune guides and profession guides
Yeah I just went to check some stuff and it looks badly put together and just flatout wrong in some cases
There are weights pinned in classic discord. Use those and sixtyupgrades.com SOD version. BiS lists are a waste of time
do you guys know if Starsurge missing to register a hit at all is happening again in P3 SoD?
Anyone have a rotation assistant weak aura? I don't understand the rotation anymore 😕. This is for SOD boomkin
if u cant be behind ur target for sod feral, what do u use since u cant shred
rake spam? idk if forms are trolling
Mangle ^^
Is skibi's pendant really bis for ferals in sod for p3?
is (classic) 1-80 quicker now with 50% buff, or gonna be quicker in cata prepatch?
Druids of SoD. There are many non Druids corrupting the moonglade for their void mischief. We must clear them from the land to rebalance nature.
how is feral cat dps in gnomer and sunken temple ?
SoD phase 3 resto.
Has anyone tried out
Darkmoon Card: Overgrowth if it is any good ?
Druid aoe heals alot and it can proc on any succesful heal so it sounds like it could proc alot ?
Would check the pins here and join the classic discord. They are much more active with sod stuff and classic in general @hushed fiber
That goes for you guys too @surreal crystal @vernal musk
sod phase 3 STATS PRIORITY lots of webiste saying dif things wich one u guys are using?
feral druid
Is the efflo quest broken in SOD? Followed directions to a T and every time these wasps poison me and I dispel it my Duty of the Warden Buff doesn't change into Buff of the Warden. I've got the Warden of Spirit buff from cleansing the curse already. Anyone else have issues completing it?
So uh anyone able to help me optimize my feral for SOD? Im currently at 5% hit, with 2 items that i could swap out for Raw agi/str but i drop to 4% hit.. (Emerald shoulders vs Splinthide Shoulders - whats more important here? everything im seeing suggests that the splintlock shoulders are better but i dont really have anywhere to get more hit % except the wild offering ring, which removes my protectors band lol (edited)
[6:32 PM]
pretty much everything i have is a choice of hit % or raw agi/str
Import weights. Find combination that gives you highest EAP while not going OVER hit cap (or subtract wasted EAP from going over).
Being hit capped is not a must
Plan, track and share gear sets for your World of Warcraft Classic characters.
Where can I find weights?
I provided the link. It is already set to import the ones from the classic discord
Idk if anyone helped ya but you have to let the poison tick then dispel it
Okay just a question since i'm a new druid gamer 
What is the best way to level in SOD 1-50, does it change from phase to phase or what?
I feel like I have heard a lot of different things
Does anyone know if taking omen right now for resto druid is better than skipping Swiftmend + Efflo ?
wowhead classic has a guide that describes the different options and what they do well
Trying to get my Berserk rune and every time i do CS and kill one i dont get the buff! tried 17 times please help!!!
Need the killing blow. It needs to give exp. It cannot resist the taunt. At least two must be taunted.
You can make this easier with ezthrow dynamite and pocket healers letting you do it in one go. If you’re not 40, then SM armory guys post-Herod is a very easy way to do it.
If you’re still having issues. Remove the idol. Log off. Close WoW. Relaunch and put the idol back on.
I will try that! TYVM!!
Also, don't forget that you have to use the idol once its done. Might already have it completed
has anyone heard anything about whether we’d have catalyst and lfr next week?
Do the command to check quest step progress
U can find the ID of the quest in the wowhead URL
What up yall. I was hoping you guys could shed a little light on my parsing. Full honesty I leveled it up as a gatherer profession toon so I don’t have engineering gloves or anything else, I know that affects it for sure. I know that ilvl parses don’t really mean shit but I’m all purple/orange as far as ilvl but overall I can barely break blue. I’m pretty often near or at the top of meters but my parses still suck. Am I doing something wrong rotation wise? Is it the kill times that’s hurting me? Any advice would be appreciated thanks! https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/faerlina/steezzyy
Are there any resources out there for BIS lists for Cata classic by chance?

Hello. Does anyone know if snapshotting is a thing in SoD Classic? Does it make my Sunfire better if I use my cd's before I cast it?
Should do I believe
Where can I find information in Cataclysm classic bear?
Pinned discord and then select Cata role in their roles channel.
I have a question about leveling in cata
I want to run dungeons in all three roles at the same time, so as to get a feel for them all while leveling up, is this viable? I realize it wouldn't be optimized but would it be good enough for a while at least?
Well depends on the level and you obviously need some gear to swap
Will mono cat be viable in cata classic raids?
Does Swipe generate cp in Cata?
Hey all new boomy here does anyone have a good WA for tracking eclipse energy and SS procs for cata?
where is this? would be nice just read info about cata ears
If you're on phone, click the channel name at the top and then press pins. If you're on PC there's a pin icon top right
Hello, do you know wich pvp weapon I should buy on cata pre patch ? for feral
Hey guys, i was wondoring if anyone have figured a macro that combines bear form and cat form skull bash. So that it uses cat version if im in cat form, and bear version if im in bear form 🙂 CATA
Just put them in the same place on your bars????
How would you do that lol
If you utilize the main action bar it changes based on your form. So if you had skull bash on the same key, say 5 then if you are in bear form you put the bear bash on 5 and in cat form the cat bash on 5
/cast [stance:NumberYouWant to] Spellyouwant to; [stance:OtherNumberYouWant] Other Spell
Hello guys, Before cata prepatch i had a single target macro castsequence with mangle> maul >lacerate > ff maul but now it does not work. cant anyone help me ?
My old kitty macro does not work either
/startAttack
/castsequence reset=3 Mangle, Shred, Savage Roar, Rake, Shred, Shred, Rip, Rake, Shred, Shred, Ferocious Bite, Shred, Shred, Savage Roar, Rake, Shred, Shred, Rip, Shred, Rake, Ferocious Bite,
/cast Tiger's Fury
/use 10
sometimes logging in my macros work, sometimes NOT
I think I need an exorcism
People be doing anything to not play the game


dont awaken him
Let him cook 🧑🍳
Hi guys. Can anyone help me, in WOTLK how you can desincronise SR and Rip, because sometimes it falls off at the same time 😭😭 I'm new to feral really enjoying it but now I got to the point where I spent 24/7 on a dummy to practice 😅 But just can't figure out how to maintain it to be desynchronised.
If they have different uptimes you can't keep them synchronized
(assume that's what you mean cause desynchronized would mean that there are those clashes)
found a macro thought id share.
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=3 Mangle(Bear Form), Lacerate(Bear Form), Lacerate(Bear Form), Lacerate(Bear Form), Mangle(Bear Form), Pulverize(Bear Form), Swipe(Bear Form), Faerie fire (Feral),
/cast maul
atm feri fire is last of the rotation due to not having trash, when u hit 81 just swap faeri fire to trash.
searching for a cat macro now but doubt anyone will aid xD GL
have mercy
like its an absolutely terrible idea to do, if you are physically able to press (or click) multiple buttons - but you could theoretically do similar things with the castsequence
fixed it
/startAttack
/castsequence reset=3 Faerie fire (Feral), Mangle(cat form), Shred, Shred, Savage Roar, Rake, Shred, Shred, Rip, Rake, Shred, Shred, Ferocious Bite, Rake, Shred, Shred, Ferocious Bite, shred, shred, shred, shred, Ferocious Bite.
this is the burst macro
/startAttack
/castsequence reset=3 Mangle(cat form), Shred, Savage Roar, Rake, Shred, Shred, Rip, Rake, Shred, Shred, Ferocious Bite, Shred, Shred, Savage Roar, Rake, Shred, Shred, Rip, Shred, Rake, Ferocious Bite,
/cast Tiger's Fury
/use 10
Normal rotation after berserk
/startAttack
/castsequence reset=3 Mangle(cat form), Shred, Savage Roar, Rake, Shred, Shred, Ferocious Bite, Rake, Shred, Shred, Ferocious Bite, Shred, Shred, Savage Roar, Rake, Shred, Shred, Ferocious Bite, rake,
/cast Tiger's Fury
under 25% cat
rotation is NOT perfect, but it works decent.
use it if u want or dont. im just sharing for the lazy
not perfect is a slight overexerageration
So use first till beserk, 2nd while berserking and 3rd once NPC is below 25?
For solo do we just mangle anytime we would have shred?
im struggling with trying to start playing classic wow
can someone help
it worked fine for me yesterday and i went through like 1/4 the tutorial and then i deleted it and i downloaded everythin again today but it says i need game time? it didnt say that last time?
i know they were doing a free trial from the 9th but idk when it ends maybe that ran out?
Is there a Cata Classic Balance Druid guide that yall would reccomend or one on this server?
I want to get the staff lol at the end of xpac. Need to train
SO I just started leveling classic cata pre-patch. Why are the xp so nerfed when someone is boosting me in dungeon ? This isnt a thing in retail
Did they change this specifically for classic or what ?
I'm pretty sure that's also a thing in retail, but yes back in classic classic it was rampant so they nerfed boost exp
They are selling leveling boost and they are doing it through dungeons on retail.
So what can I do to level faster than just doing quests and normal dungeons ?
Yeah you can get a massive throughput gain from heirlooms with enchants
not really what im saying during wotlk you had like twinked lvl 41 palas or sth boosting in SM
I dont even know if they used (many) heirloom items
dont think so
Oh you mean like that
think they used trinkets and that was it
but yea not sure if that still works/exists in cata - havent played in a bit
hey guys i'm new on the rdrood life I used to play hpal on Wotlk but will switch rdrood on classic cataclym, any tips on the mana use because on the beta i'm constantly oom
There is a whole classic discord @rancid atlas
I dunno if we are allowed to link other discords so feel free to pm me
(its in the pins)
Oh yea there we go
You don't say?

hello, do u guys know if you can powershift in catactlysm?
This channel is pretty dead as there is classic discord which I mentioned in #feral its in the pins in here like I said
#classic message this guy
got it, ty. im discord illiterate sorry
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/balancepowertracker/files/all?page=1&pageSize=20 anyone know of an updated version of this that works in classic cata?
or some low resource weakaura for the eclipse bar?
This UI setup is pinned in balance channel: #1171267821112676363 message
Could just disable the stuff you don’t want.
are we suppose to use nourish or regrowth when we get that free mana proc
cata classic
I am regrowthing to allow opportunity to swiftmend and place efflo
IT's faster, leaves HOT, and Swiftmend prep so....
Is there some thread or something for classic pvp or nah
I sincerely hope not
Yes. Multiple. In the classic discord
Is this the place for Cata questions? If so what's the best rotation to level up 80-85 as boomy? Just spam moonfire?
classic discord in the pins would be better
Thx
np
hey someone have a makro for placing mushrooms and detonat in one button?=
What is resto's stat prio in cata?
best proffs for feral pvp cata?
Does anyone have the pawn stat number for ReforgeLite
Hey does anybody have any strong ideas of what order to do the bosses on raid launch. We want to try to get as many heroic as possible the first week so I’m wondering which bosses should be easier than others. Thank you 
Hello to you! Do NM raid and HC raid have linked IDs? Can we do the NM raid and then go on the same raid in HC the same week? 🙂
in what game version?
Baradin hold is the pvp raid aka wintergrasp. Only has 1 boss on release. I think u mean bastion twitlight wich have 4 bosses 🙂
Woops yeah same thing then 3/4 BoT
On Classic :3
so ? 😄
hey guys as feral dps what expertise rating do i need?
Does anybody have a pre-raid BiS list for Feral? :3
The wowhead guide doesn't seem to get updated that frequently
dunno looks somewhat reasonable to me
like obviously its not actually full pre raid bis, but you also wont get pre raid bis
unless you have several 100k to spend
It is literally the pinned pre-raid BiS from classic discord so yeah, it is right on.
well it obviously isnt actually pre raid bis
but it is not a terrible list
doesnt have valor boe boots, no t11 piece which you can easily buy already, no arena item
Is there a cataclysm area for dream grove?
pins, theres a classic discord for druid.
im gonna assume its just this
Anyone know whats going on with the balance druid patch this last week?
Moonglade is troubled
go defend it
Thats why Im in information gathering mode
I believe in you
Should I believe in u?
no
RIP
In seriousness though, still havent gotten a straight answer on this
Should check the classic druid discord in the pins
I came from there. They dont know
They would have a better idea then we would
Understood. Really seems like this shouldnt be this hard. Information in classic can be hard to come by. Thanks
I dont even know what you are talking about when you say the "balance druid patch"
They did something with eclipse. Its resetting power to 0 when starting some fights but im not sure exactly what the change was
that sounds like tricky to figure out
if you dont really know what was changed and other people dont even seem to talk about it
Yep. No official notes on the change, and it doesnt seem to be functioning consistently
Apparently it resets to 0 if you are in eclipse on pull. Something something pvp balance. Idk I just did a quick search on the classic discord.
Hey I’m new here, I was wondering if y’all could check out my logs and let me know what I could improve on. My GM says my harmony uptime needs to be better.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/mankrik/yggdrrasil#difficulty=3
Resto Druid in cata
Oh frick the other dude was right, my belt is cloth XD! Ya changing that out would help a lot
its in the pins
Right, ofc
So checking out my logs from last night, Wowanalyzer is saying that lifebloom restores mana once it is done, is that true?
Lol. That's just what it says idk ive never heard of that
Alright, checked the other discord, they said its just not updated from WoTLK
Anyone notice energy just randomly getting taxed? watching energy go sluggishly from 1 to like 30 then just deletes itself back down to like 10 or less
Super annoying
are u shapeshifting
Nope, just standing in cat form looking at my energy waiting for it to increase, sometimes I get above certain thresholds, like I get above 35 energy & Rake color goes vibrant "active" again and then it randomly removes some of my energy and I can't use rake any more.
How much loss we talking?
Could be some rounding issue with energy ticks so you don't actually lose it you never had it in the first place
I can try to get a clip of it, way easier than explaining 😄
Oh my god, it's Tiger's Fury total energy increase buff wearing off. That's so annoying
Anyone else having an issue on Magmaw Heroic and the Blazing Inferno landing in melee?
Nope, sounds like maybe not enough outside or people in the melee camp too far away
Any of y’all cata boomkin hitting 20k dps?
Hell no
I’ll let you know how I do it
My up and coming chicken only lvl 31

Please spread my wings & teach me to fly
Oh I have no idea, but when I do find out I’ll let you know lol
Buddy told me boomy is trash and couldn’t average 20k
Ent, so you be 85 soon and can help me min max

SURELY
but just clicking on logs think the most ST fight without damage boosts is chimaeron and top chickens around 30k tehre
for sure not the best dps but also not completly unplayable
thats whats up 20k average is easy money
Yea looking at the numbers does seem very easy , don't think I've had a moonkin (or feral) in any of the raids I've done yet
i have mine at 351 and were raiding thursday and sunday this week. i get wildly different #s depending on the fight. i guess what im first shooting for is - moonfire/insect swarm up and running through eclipses and starsurg on cd and that number averaging 20k
Hi guys Im newly back to cata classic and am trying to get a good rotation going for feral raids. Is there a druid i can look up for a rotation or does anyone have any tips here 🙂
any cata ferals online ?
They went into hibernation until an expansion comes out where they’re good
more like died of hunger
Now's a great time to play feral if you like to parse... Since most have moved onto other classes! I get purples and oranges with scuffed rotations, just like in classic classic.
Our bleeds snapshot now so it's best to wait for procs before getting up rip and rake.
1cp savage roar is crazy good now.
Swipe is pretty bad for 2-3 target packs, best to get rip and rake up on two of the instead.
Mastery crit and haste are all nearly equal in weight and severely behind agility, but if you want better single target damage prioritize mastery.
Feral charge ravages should be saved a little bit for buffs / snapshot.
General opener is fairie fire - charge - mangle - savage roar. shred, shred, tigers fury, rip, rake, ravage. Can switch around the last three depending on crits, 5cp rips only.
Last part is hard, which is getting a feel for energy Regen and when to bite.
Since the omen glyph is gone, feral is way tighter on energy.
anyone have some good weak aura recommendations for cata balance druide? i'd like one for a starsurge proc
can you send that one?
check pins
Hi!
Is Jar of Ancient Remedies any good as resto druid? Can you explain why? -cata
anyone with add tanking exp on nefarian heroic who can look into our logs ?
I guess you can wear polearms now as a druid in classic
Halberd of Smiting is a epic Two-hand Polearm with a damage of 175 - 263 (62.57 DPS), and a speed of 3.5. It has a required level of 60 and item-level of 66. This item is added in world of warcraft classic content phase: 4.
Equip effects work on feral
HoD Halberd of Smiting Feral druid go
anyone have a list of wep procs that work in form
Hey People, question for Balance Druid Cataclysm PvP
We play LSD, what is the correct behaviour? Get in combat and possibly get focused, or cross CC-ed, or stay in stealth as long as rogue starts on someone with a possibility of getting sapped?
I would join the classic Druid discord. Link is in the pins. Not much classic talk goes on here and the classic Druid discord is pretty active
Thanks!
Wheres good place to get better MAIN HAND weapon??? wotlk
Wotlk? There is no wotlk atm
Warmane server

Wheres good place to get better MAIN HAND weapon??? wotlk
WHERE
loaf took them
Where mainhand?

for what exist this channel here when a druid classic discord exist?^^
To keep this trash out of the main channels (mainly during the original classic launch)
Guys, how hard is it to get the Nourish rune?
I’m looking on google and it says the faerie fire +hit does not effect casters, I was told that it in actual fact it does effect casters for the +hit in sod. Can someone confirm for me please?
shred is your main dmg filler, you should only use mangle like 1 or 2 times a fight (if you can get behind your target throughout the fight)
I have a fixation on picking up the little Somnuts in the emerald dream... so I just had to do this
hey, what valor pieces should be prioritized for purchase as a feral dps druid?
Can anyone please verify if Swiftmend works when the target has HoTs cast by a different player in Cata Classic? I know this was true in Classic Era and not in Retail but unsure which xpac the switch happened in.
I doubt that even worked in tbc
Hi, im playing SoD Balance druid and the Guide for MC raid says recommends using mageblood potion, but its locked behind revered rep with the Zandalar Tribe. I have no idea how im ment to get that rep, is there something im missing or is Wowhead being misleading and its not actually available yet?
Mageblood pots can be bought from the ah lol
Where did you get the helm?
I just realised I posted this in the wrong channel, I apologise. 
Its a BOP rare helm that drops in the emerald dream on dragonflight
It never dropped for me. I'm jealous. I'm still trying to get the runed bear form the world boss.
you're about to receive a ban here too, don't need to be dragging your drama around, that's really not smart

questions regarding some macro setup for boonkin in cata classic: firstly, looking for a good resource with a wide range of macros to peruse. Particularly interested in options for making casting shrooms and detonate feel less clunky. Also would be interested in seeing what macros people are using to use cds such as synapse springs.
Thanks !
Hey friends. Anyone know any talents guide for level a druid in hardcore vanilla duo with a warrior? I know isn't best duo partner but we're running that with my friend. I don't sure if go feral talents is the best option, I was thinking go on boomkin/heal talents. What do you think about that?? Remember is hardcore 🙂
Hey, anyone knows if there is a specific druid discord for cata?
Pinned in here
Ah thanks, didnt See pinned message on mobile phone 🙂
do any1 know BiS for balance p5 SoD?
i play whitemane any plz willing to help a out that whats up id make it worth your time if not thats cool, just figure id ask on here instead in game.... would be cool either or also while to take any advince on macros and strat as well what pro to run
only lvl 8 atm pro be a couple day before i get 15 due to work and im a single dad lol but if so hit me up add "tewda" ally night elf druid
Is that a copy pasta?
That poor child
hey lads, sorry i asked in the wrong channel before but i was wondering if anyone weould be able to point me in the right direction for some balance macros for wow cata classic?
click the pins and go to classic druid disc
Hi im starting to heal BWD heroic Any WA or addons anyone recommends to use to help be profient in raid and get a higher healing parse? im also looking for something in a WA to pop up to lmk big damage is incoming or something to help notify me of a mechanic that does alot of damage so i can prepare for it. msg me or reply here with any info thanks!
try classic druid discord - see pins
when i click that pin i come right back here - is that right? want to chat with follow resto dudus about rotation in phase 5
it links to a post containing the invite for the classic discord server
Is there a good resource on what exactly copies with the dragonwrath proc?
hey guys, looking into playing druid in classic fresh, is there any sim tool for era? i found the one for sod but idk if it will be accurate by just removing runes from gear
As a druid in classic (pvp) What class should I stay away from no matter what?
I feel like Warriors are easy to kite, Hunters though idk?
Rogues and Hunters seem maybe the scariest to 1v1.
Hi all, New to the Discord and the Druid class. I want to make it a challange now that the fresh servers will release and go Balance from the start. Anyone have any tips on macros, addons that is a must/nice to haves? 🙂
./cast [@realclass] innervate
i would also like to know these things as depsite my friends warning me of how bad it is i want to play it really bad
I want to play it just because its "not META" and eeryone complaining about it 🤣
yeah ive been playing balance in retail and i just like it so i wanna play it in classic too despite it not being meta
im probably going to have to dual spec as resto for raid tho
Balance in classic is nothing like retail. It is basically just spamming a few different levels of Starfire. Any further info can be gotten from the classic discord in the pins.
when is classing servers up? is it in 40 mins?
Classic servers should be up 15 hrs from now
Whats Druid like on HC servers? I'd assume theyre pretty good due to the access to forms? Or would the talent tree hinder it a lot
druid is quite good in HC imo, solid tanks that are less gear dependent than other options, fast levelers, can flex to roles needed in a group, stealth is always helpful, not having a true rez doesn't matter
Thanks for the reply!
When would it make more sense to switch from Feral to Heal and then do dungeons and raids as Heal to be able to get Atiesh later?
Sup everyone im playing on a 3.3.5 pserver and i have a question
A guy has some "poison" damage showing up on his logs
Clearly doing it to proc omen
Only thing I can think of is sunken temple trinket swap, do u know of any other consumable / trinket to swap that gives an aura or smtn that deals poison dmg?
Probably has been asked 1.000.000 times, but the MCP from Gnomeregan, how much better is it vs any other normal weapon at 60?
in %*
For bear? It is the difference between being playable or not.
For cat? Like 15%.
just use atiesh
Taking a 5% DPS loss just to get out of gnomer for the fights you get to fulltime cat
Hass anyone done the dragonwrath quest yet on cata classic?
probably
All the info on the oculus portion seems to be mage specific
I thought it should be an option to show mana while I’m in cat/bear , or is that just retail thing ?
You need addons/weakauras for that
I thought we couldn't front shred in classic. This video posted yesterday has someone doing it. Does anyone know why?
https://youtu.be/UCoffNYelp4?si=BympC848B8TO6ZK5
Because fresh is littered with bugs that may or may not be fixed
I see...
Ok, this is super simple to do on the anniversary realms, this vid is legit
Any classic enjoyers that can help me out (im starting tonight or tomorrow but im a wrath baby havent played classic much at all) what profession would be best for a hardcore feral druid (since loads of things cant be used while shape shifted)
Is it still engineering or alchemy thats bis or should I just go for leatherworking and skinning for more armor etc
If you don't have anyone giving you bags/some gold I'd heavily recommend starting with skinning and even just vendoring the leather early on ofc if you'd wanna optimize literally nothing comes close to engi eventual
So engineering even if you cannot use bombs in forms etc i mean obviously you will have to shift out to heal etc so i guess it makes sense. Thanks for the response
sorry guys idk in which channel should I ask so I'll try this one 😄 probably a stupid question tho
so I do have a lvl 34 character on the original first hardcore server, it is still alive
if I die with that char, can I move that into the new anniversary normal server?
Yes it's not close
Classic engi is by far the most broken any profession has been in any expansion
While I haven't looked it up I'd say basically guaranteed no
That would fuck up the economy so much
yeah i thought the same but who knows
i don't wanna risk it tho XD
i coul jump off tanaris
I just finished deadmines and IDK if I should take chest piece or staff
Is it ok when you loot dead mob, you see combo points on him for 1 sec and then they disappear? Even without addons. This is annoying 
It happens when you loot mob immediately. Looks like CP reset with a delay.
what would you expect to happen but yea when I played rogue/druid that seemed to be the case too
but not sure that thats more annoying then insta losing them
Here is what i mean. Is it Classic game engine related or could be fixed?
I don't really know why it's a big issue to see the combo points for 2s longer but I also don't think it is easily fixable
I assume you could do it with a weakaura or sth, my guess is it exists cause of feign death
It exists because people were killing a mob with 5 combo points and mousover finishering another mob and it kept the 5 combo points, was working for rogue too
that would not prevent this tho?
yea thats why they made it
so i am leveling in the new fresh anniversary servers and im an avid resto fan and would like to heal as i level...Is balance really THAT BAD for leveling compared to feral in classic? id really like to level balance so i can use the samn gear to heal 5 mans with my dual spec
feral has no downtime and does big damage, balance does less damage and drinks every pull
sigh
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