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I thougt they said 25 35 45 60
But i cant remember. and i cba to watch the vod back 😛
We will know when it happens! its not that important
Maybe, makes a bit more sense with the dungeon levels for gnomeregan and SM
Yeah, but i mean. we will have to discover the answer! hihi
Pretty hyped for sod. I ended up playing balance twice on the demo with the runes and it was a lot of fun being able to still cast stuff after a moon fire drains my mana lol
Question Im in Austria and was wondering when SoD will release here, is it today at 10pm or tomorrow 10pm?
Thx !
We dont know. We dont know whats good/bad. We only know it launches in 26.5 hours. Play it and see. level to 25 is like 24 hour deal anyways. Easy to just reroll
i dont have time so i cant reroll
:(
If you don't have time to level ~20-30h how does it matter what's best at max lvl?
Cat form exists they put in support for cat form too
If you dont have time to play the game. then why bother.
Will it be good, no one knows
missunderstood. i have time but not much. i need to decide a class and play that forever
i like being a cat and dps
i hope i can
Dunno I don't think rerolling will be that crazy time investment if you want to change
I do like that no one mentioned the obvious fuck up in this tweet
If you don’t have time to level, you don’t have time to play the game. The overwhelming majority of your time is going to happen at max level. We can’t possibly know what’s going to be good before the game exists when changes are happening in the future.
If you don’t have time to level, you don’t have time to play the game Id disagree with this its fine to play it super casually - but if you do the balancing really doesnt matter
Of course its fine to play super casually. It's intended to be as accesible as possible. That's why I say that if you don't have to level in this, you don't have time to play. Leveling is going to take so little time that if you can't find the time to do it, you must have no time at all.
JVMES doesn’t get enough questions in classic discord so he has to come here for more. He yearns for more
It won’t play remotely like retail
Hey sorry to pop a question right away, but is there any changes to feral and consumeble or weapons in SoD?
nothing announced afaik
Don't expect anything or you'll be disappointed
Sorry if this is kind of off topic, but could anyone tell me how good were feral druids in Vanilla Classic WoW? What DPS numbers did they post during the course of the "expansion" and how did they compare to other classes(Ret, hunters, warlocks mainly)? I kinda followed the theorycrafting before Classic launched, but life and other obligations got in the way of actually trying it out. I know there was a strat with the Wolfshead Helm item and Furor talent that seemed pretty interesting, was it better than going Heart of the Wild + a high stat regular helm? Also, how much did the Manual Crowd Pummeler increase our DPS? Did we have any other exotic consumables that were substantial DPS increases?
Thanks, you're a real trasure of the community.
Thanks. I do what i can for the community. Its not easy to go to wowhead and read the guide. Or check warcraftlogs for actual numbers. So i help the people who cant do basic research. Thanks again
Sure would have been helpful if you told me to check those resources before being a douche, but allas you just had to be a douche before you could have been helpful. Thanks anyway.
i think charlie just wants to play the game and explore everything as we play. instead of min maxing everything
3rd-5th in DPS. Basically tied with warlocks
This is 95th percentile Naxx to get you an impression of classic balance
just curious why are you asking, are you asking for SoD?
because for this those resources are obviously useless
if its just for curiosity im sure some fun stuff will be able to be found
I honestly stopped reading because I’m lazy
Wolfshead is required for DPS. The spec is basically gutted without it. HotW/NS is not something you play for PvE. You go normal feral with natural shapeshifter and furor
MCP was big for cat and enormous for bear.
someone tell me what the streamer server is so I can go onto a different one
do we still need macros for effectively shifting in and out of our forms in classic? if so can i have them
what do you want the macro for, powershifting?
i just remember having macros when i played i 2019 because you cant technically go between forms freely, for example if im going between bear and cat with mouse scroll up and mouse scroll down
thats news to me
very very sure you can go from bear to cat form by just pressing cat form
now what wouldnt work is pressing mount in cat form and get auto unshifted for example
you can freely go between forms since tbc prepatch. they added automatic unshifting so you dont need to make /cancelform macros for everything anymore.
ah such a great QOL
so outside of macros for like, bear form/bash, i should be good?
hey, does someone know the starter rune for sod?
free wrath rune
anyone know how to get the first druid rune?
from a quest, super easy on horde with no mob to kill
You get a quest from the trainer to get an idol, its on a hill around here
Where is the Alliance one, anyone know? It says get the Relic from the Grellkin, but I've killed a ton and no luck.
people rlly gona play this timesink of a game?:D
Season of discovery doesn’t really look like a time sink
anyone got the rested xp cracked
Classic overall is a timesink + you guys getting baited to level up again while getting minimal content in upcoming "seasons"
STONKS
I mean I don’t play classic lol
But I will give season of discovery a try since there is leveling increments
alright, now thats a good incentive to do SoD. solid weapon change. no toxic bag hogging farm needed.
Not because I was planning on playing that in SoD. But it is kinda because SoD. Since all of the SoD content on youtube I remembered the last time I thought of playing WoW and wanted to get the answers to the meta build questions that got left unanswered at the time.
anyone found the second rune yet?
yea but why would sod content mention that, its not relevant for sod
It's not that SoD content mentioned that, it's that when I saw random SoD content on youtube I remembered all the theorycrafting that was going on(and that I kinda followed) during the lead up to the classic wow launch.
how do u get there
nvm found it
anyone found the flower crown for the tree in starbreeze village?
i c, so i guess similarly just flowers in elf zone
anyoine find the windfury rune ?
equip it, then use it
do it and find out!
Anyone found out where to use the Prairie crown?
on the tree near the gnarl camp
besides the alter
anyone seen where to get windfury rune
Gnarl camp?
i think thats the living seed one
ya i got it fromt he tree with the flower to make a crwon
crown
unless gnarls drop it
anyone found the sunfire rune in teldrassil?
its on the way to the dwarves quest
Yea didnt understand what the gnarls are.
But found the wooden effigy, at 37, 49
Trying to find, lmk if you learn anything
saw someone with it, they only said they found it in a puzzle south, didnt elaborate
i see, tyty
Which mob?
for alliance, that one drops from Rageclaw
Tyty
sunfires down here in teldrassil, dot the stones with moonfire
awww was so close to finding it!
tyty
Hey! Do you know where to use Glade Crown?
think thats in starbreeze village, theres a treant there but idk
Ok
down here if you cant find it
I can't get the chest to spawn
moonfire the three stones
moonfire the 3 stones
I did
dot needs to be active on all 3 at same time
I know, I did that
can say I just did it and worked just fine
some1 know where i need to use the crown as nightelf
screenshot of the map way better
anyone know what to do after you summon the skeleton guy northwest oracle glade?
have you thought of scrolling up?
You have anbother person who can heal, a priest, channel; the portal
Yea, we did and it summoned a ghost but we couldnt heal it or interact with it
Should summon a portal like warlock portal
just channel; into it
and gives you a rune
Gave me and priest friend a rune
anyone found the glade crown use yet?
Yeah you use it on the nutral tree
loc?
I saw it in Starbreeze Village
Its a tiny one
oka, ill go have a look ty 🙂
Hey, any luck with this one
Are the flowers just random spawns?
Seems like it
Where do you get the crown?
little glowing plants around the zone
Cool ty
np
does any1 have more than 3 runes?
5 from teldrassil
Any idea how to get the gnarlpine stash key?
fury, sunfire, living seed, mangle, lifebloom
where do you get fury?
? that gave the wrath
... what is the buff called?
i mean the windfury like ability
ill have ursine rage one i get level 10
since its a cat ability, it'll prob be in an area around lvl 20
aigh
true
where is mangle?
ty
Glade flowers spawn all over Teldrassil?
Is Mangle the ursine fury?
does any1 know where sunfire is in Mulgore?
where do we use the glade crown
having a hard time getting the grelkin to drop rune item in Teldressil. am i doing it wrong?
make sure you are killing the right ones, i got it after 3 kills
farming in SW shadowglen
any1 did the prairie crown ?
i got it from the ones just by the first quest giver
where do u use the crown
was talking about the grelkin drop rune
think we need a rune chat channel ASAP
100%
unlikely
anyone with coords on lifebloom? im getting tired of walking teldrassil north lol
Where at?
how do we get the sunfire? horde
I've been looking for the sunfire in mulgore as well
da heck is this thing, only damaged by moonfire but cannot get it to die, even with 2 druids spamming it
reaches 0 but then heals
Tooltip says someone is hiding in it
looks like its something where something is hiding in it

around 33, 33 in teldrassil need one other person and click on the skele corspe for the lifebloom
its for hunters
Oh awesome, thanks for letting me know so it can stop annoying me 😄
any1 found starsurge (alliance)
I cant find starsurge for horde 😦
Havent seen or heard of anything after Teldrassil,
5
wtf..
cant find the npc to use the crown on
In starbreeze village
no
someone found starsurge for horde ?
these grellkin drop the relic right for alliance?
Yes, drops a Lunar idol
the one from the lvl 2 quest yes
what professions u guys levelling?
Equip it
^
do you have a buff?
ok now right click it if you have the buff
nuh uh
Get the killing blows with Moonfire
no
you need to kill them
with moonfire debuff on them
and you need to get the killing blow
doesnt matter with what
but if your moonfire cast kills it without debuff up
you wont get the count
Only worked for me in the beginning by killing with moonfire
weird im gonna reconnect
they are greys X_X
yes that is why I said it
where these glade flowers at?
near the village
shadowglen?
cheers mate
wat i do with the corwn g @kindred slate
theres a tree NPC in starbreeze, use the crown on it and kill it
then use crown on him
town or in the forest?
Starbreeze village
like in village
yea
wat other runes am i missing at teldrassil?>
crips where sunfire
South side of teldrassil
@cunning breach
near here bruva
shii where mangle and lifebloom?
what does living seed do?
Mangle, Banethil Hollow
Lifebloom The oracle glade, need another healer with you
where do you get sunfire?
thanks G
Where is it?
nvm found it
I'm deep in Banethil Hollow after the Mangle Rune, any tips about where it is down here?
Oh, I just found him! Ty
harpy camp south of mist quest
34,35 ish
adventurers spirit should be a skeleton on the ground
Found the Lacerate rune starter relic fishing in Darkshore. Bag of crab treats, feed to the higher level crabs and boom.
Furbolgs drop "Crab treats" which you can feed to crabs on the beaches of darkshore
oh
derp
what random guy said XD
Lacerate for Horde anyone?
where is starsurge 😦
probably quite deep
been 2/3 glade flower for hours =[
what is this for
Life bloom rune
what spec do you guys think is best for leveling? Im wanting to try balance but still having mana issues with sunfire and healing touch... is feral still bis for lvling?
you can just spam wrath and not worry about the other things feral will probably be better after 20 when you get cat but you still go into balance until omen for feral
Does anyone know what rune is learned from Ferocious Idol?
Is lacerate better than mangle/
most likely mangle
you upkeep lacerate stacks and use mangle for the bleed dmg
you still spam maul
Oh I thought they were both glove runes
I’ve got:
Fury of Stormrage
Living Seed
Lifebloom
Mangle
Sunfire
Lacerate
Am I missing any that we know about?
does the wooden idol have a spawn timer? i dont see it on coordinates
where do we get sunfire from?
den mother in darkshore has furious idol lvl 20. pretty sure its either wild strikes or survival
oi big find
where do we get starsurge glyph from?
where is sunfire from ? 😄
It’s like 52,78 in teldrassil. Don’t have my computer up so can’t check for sure, but south of the left side of the lake there’s a little bump out on the perimeter of the map. You run out it and have to Moonfire all 3 stones before the duration ends on the first
Then open the chest
(alliance)
when starsurge is found its wraps
Is this main discord for Druid in seasson of discovery
anyone know what i do with Magic Pumpkin Seeds that I found in Westfall?
where tf is lacerate, what zone I have the coordinates
where is lacerate for tauren?
found this in barrens, any ides what its for / how to complete?
being told to take it to the pool near WC, will check soon
for lacerate @granite rock
Wild strikes been found yet
Classic discord in the pins. There is a sub thread under the SoD channel there for rune locations
Is the Ashenvale PvP event available on pve realms?
is there a compilation of rune locations already?
|| we don’t know ||
I need you to know
Pretty sure it's ||on azeroth||
I have a feeling Starsurge will be in a zone where druid are of level to use Starfire.
Did we find Survival of the Fittest?
anyone know what Magic pumpkin seeds gives?
The Magical Pumpkin Seed summons a pet Squashling. It is obtained from harvesting fully-grown Pumpkins during Halloween, which has a 1/200 (0.5%) chance to drop a Magical Pumpkin Seed. When the player jumps high enough or outruns the Squashling, it will twirl and fly after the player.
brodie
It’s related to wild growth from what I recall.
how good is feral right now with the runes, or should i stick to boomy
would be fun to go kitty
then do it
Is there even a point to moonkin? Don’t think we get that talent till 40?
try it
wrath spam is pretty fun even pre moonkin form
wrath/dots is the main way to play druid pvp in classic
why not both and just spam sunfire in cat
anyone find starsurge?
Really no one has found starsurge?
anyone complete Magic Pumpkin Seeds?
I found starsurge but will not be sharing as that would go against the spirit of the season of discovery!!
Least give us the lvl range we would need to be to get
1-25
Do you have to be a certain lvl to get the drop for wild strikes?
or anyone know how many kills it took em?
In case anyone else is wondering and goes to do it, took me about 12 kills and I could learn it at 15
where is STARSUGE RUNE for DRUID ?!?!
Did we find Survival of the Fittest or Skull Bash yet?
Starsurge
Alliance: A dwarf inside a cave at around 35,14 in the Wetlands gives players a Marshroom, which will allow players to speak to a Frog sitting on a stump in a pond at 31,18, who will then give them the rune.
Anyone found Wild Growth yet? Dont need to know where, just curious 😬
yes afaik its found
This 1 any relevant? It's an SoD/Rune NPC near our aquatic form location
Only comment from a rogue messing with it couldnt find anything
have not heard anything but you are outside can prolly kill him and see
killed him, 2 silk cloth
huge
new confirmed silk cloth farm
is it the same?
We getting starfire in the future
no, its like a single starfall lol
the same, as what?
im asking if the quest is the same.
how does this work if im on a pvp realm..
cause im flagged to these dwarves.
they arent hostile..
or is this just the wrong cave?
ah ok i see. the link here is leading me to the wrong place lol
im dumb
wow head updated
accurate name tho
Alliance still have to go to Stonetalon for Wild Strikes right?
my guess is starsurge is probably in stonetalon
its in wetlands.
maybe theres a horde version there but i got mine from wetlands
why they make it have the starfall animation tho >.>
Does anyone know how to macro Sunfire for Bear Form?
I've tried /cast Sunfire (Bear) and (Bear Form). Neither register as valid. Regular Sunfire macro pops me out of bear.
Any WildG runes?
ended up making the run to wetlands
go to spells balance
and use that sunfire
are cats able to use mangle in cat form? i only see the bear version in my runes
i had to remove the rune and reapply it then it showed up as a catform ability on my bar
its randomly in feral tab or rune tab
funny design
i hope we get to enjoy our own wild strikes in forms?
starsurge animation has been changed to a falling star apparently. does any1 have a clip?
I'm new here, I had a ursine idol whose on use effect was to maintain above 50 rage in bear form for 60 seconds.
What do I do now?
to learn it? right click the idol
@wheat slate right click after doing the thing
its in your character sheet next to yuor weapon
it sucks balls, but its cheap.
good for kiting I guess?
and it looks like a single starfall tick
wetlands top left a cove has a dwarf gives you a mushroom that lets you talk to a frog
zzz
thats lvl 25 btw
is there a separate classic sod druid discord
anyone find -skull bash - surv of the fit - or -starsurge- ?
wait really?
anyone have a working powershift macro?
ya
time to make the trek to wetlands
honestly, if you are soloing prob not worth it lifebloom better i think
dungeons ya
does it do that little damage
10 sec cooldown, 6 mana same dmg as sunfire but no dot
so u get a cheap burst, but lose lifebloom mana refund
depends on how much u heal urself
it synergies with talents we dont have yet
prob worth it for u then
if u arent rejuving or lbing
someone wil find an easier one to get to sooner than later i imagine
we find the tauren rune location for starsurge? going to wetlands seems awk
i just went only died 3 or 4 times
its not worth it tho it does less damage than a wrath
idk wtf blizzard were thinking by making starsurge like this
its probably gonna be able to proc the starfire stun
Maybe gets better with talents
is it better to have the rank 1 wrath for a shorter cast time to fish for free healing touches
anyonee else thoughts
If shorter cast time = more casts = more chances to get free HT
If longer cast time = less casts = less chances to get free HT
Im gonna let you decide what seems best 😉
Where do we get windfury? ( Alli )
Anyone have a working powershift macro?
Yo, so I just got the feral windfury rune idol, but I need to heal 10 different beast to get the rune, any idea on where I can find a place with a lot of friendly beasts pls ?
I feel like almost all other runes have alli and horde places to get them. I wonder if there's a different windfury location for alli. I'm guessing it would be level 14-15 mobs, probably something druidic in lore. Loch modan or westfall. Both of those are pretty heavily traveled, is there anywhere else anyone can think of?
Hunter pets and shapeshift druids
Kill the Tauren just inside stonetalon
Idol will drop off of one of them
Nvm I read your comment wrong lol
You meant ally not horde
Yes
Shaman ghost wolf counts too
I'm rethinking, as I'm considering that starsurge is alli focused and windfury is horde focused, and they may not have an opposite.
Just have to hit 20 so I can stealth it I guess.
Tip for getting the 10 beasts healed: Sit in the SW/Org, put MotW on a hunter pet and rejuv
btw what are we thinking for cat dps talents? im thinking 11-0-5 for now
im the same
I like swiftness too much. I'm all feral. I do miss omen though.
yea swiftness for sure is decent but I think you give up too much by losing furor and natural weapons and only get 6% crit
I know, it is a tough decision. The swiftness has saved me more times than I can count on my pvp realm though.
ofc not talking pvp here
pvp feral sounds pretty hard to get to work kinda want 0/13/5 but you cant do that
im guessing youll drop the cat movementspeed and feel bad
its pretty hard to master
they made it easier with less buttons but lots of situational stuff
O this is a classic channel, I think feral is trash but my advisce is play what feels fun
feels amazing when i got 20. Savage roar + mangle +wild strikes
11/0/5 is the spec
yea agreed
was just wondering if I missed something
cause it does feel somewhat odd
to play feral with 0 talent points in feral

pvp build im still thinking currently guessing you go into feral for wild charge and furor in resto - but could also see deeper resto for IS reflection and maybe NG?
it's almost like all the vanilla feral talents are turbo trash

pvp feral is very possibly 30% cat speed and sunfire spam outside of everyone's reach
interesting yea if thats relevant damage might not need kick
Is there a level requirement to get star surge from the frog or am I able to deathrun it into wetlands (Im lvl 14)
I'm Tauren druid. Stomp is fun
I will travel wild charges incap and stoomp
Solo healers get rocked
Need high hast to beat the cc
If you can cyclone the 3 before the ramp it's almost insta win
right
Who’s got a working powershift macro?
Out of curiosity, does anyone have a Best in Sot list/spreadsheet for leveling?
isnt it just /cast !Form
what's a powershift macro?
did we find starsurge yet?
yes
has the horde starsurge rune been located or do we have to go to wetlands?
Anyone know any quests that give solid loot for level 25?
Hey! can yall help me figure out the first druid rune? I'm a tauren
I got the quest, went into the razerboar place, and found the chest
I looted the chest, and then right clicked on the idol in my bags. It disappeared. I then killed 6 boars, and got all 6 inspirations. But when I go back to the dude who gave me the quest I still can't complete it.
lol fuck me I just figured it out. Apparently the idol when into my inventory on my character and I needed to right click on that. oof

First time I played wow (classic during covid) took me so long to figure out my bags and inventory
guardian druids that are going full combat, are you going 5 points into feral instinct? or do you think 2-3 is enough/
what does full combat mean
is the Sunfire rune better for feral leveling than Mangle? It does slightly less damage but puts a dot on and the mobs dont live that long for the bleed from rip
anyone figured out what the pumpkin seeds are for yet?
i used it because with sunfire + Feral Swiftness you can solo any level mob without losing a single hp
imo mangle is better in most cases
quite a bit more damage, especially with savage roar
anyone have a link to omen of clarity weakaura
what runes all have been found besides 5 from starting areas
any bear druids done DM already? do you guys usually just spam swipe with rage? maul? lacerate?
Is anyone talking about season of discovery here?
think all of them
mostly lacerate
might try some sunfire
next run
Sunfire is crazy from what I heard. Use it for leveling and cleave.
for leveling...? when do you ever get use out of rip or savage roar?
Rip essentially never savage roar essentially always
yo so question, youre suppose to be able to use sunfire in cat form ya?
I keep getting knocked out of form, am I missing sometihng?
hello sod gamers, I will not be joining the mage discord so asking here
left is way better right?
you have to use the cat version
Yea left is way better
ty gamer
int is the only other spellcaster stat that even has the potential to increase your damage and it's a really small amount of crit chance
spell damage is always better
So starsurge is bad or was that false info
its really bad
Just did a 5/7 BFD run as Feral. Felt powerful even with really bad gear, and there’s some insane stuff for us in there
do windfurry procs proc omen?
should be able to
ait cool
i was surprised how little skills my cat has
3 buttons and I do giga dmg
pretty nice
was farming wild strikes as alliance and killed like 10 horde players by pressing 4 buttons
It is classic after all
so every class?
lmao
I took everything off my bar aside from mangle and roar
other shit aint worth pressing
ooc shred maybe
Mangle on cat?
yes
anyone still rocking balance lol
I am infamously a boomie one trick
if i go feral is it important to go furor first before omen?
got it thx
Talents are still wrath > natural weapons > clarity > furor right?
Do we run mangle or sunfire? Sunfire kinda trucks
My mangle isnt showing up. Weird.
Maybe its because of ElvUI?
If it happens to you just go cat from and re-equip the rune.
from classic discord
Universal Sunfire Macro
/startattack
/use [noform:1/3] Sunfire; Moonfire(Rank 1)```
**__Universal Mangle Macro __**
(another semi colon and spell name after claw can add a spell to cast when in neither form)
```#showtooltip
/startattack
/use [form:1] Mangle; [form:3] Claw```
*change the 3s to 2s if you have not acquired aquatic form yet*
does anyone have a clearcasting weakaura for the discovery server?
for sod, is it worth sticking with balance after I get a cat form for leveling and dungeons, or should I just respec to feral?
wtf is the drop rate on the kolkar booty chest key jfc
just stick balance. I leveled balance/resto and it was fine
how does balance druid feel in SoD pvp rn?
Does weapon skill matter for melee in cat form?
No
Is there any pre-bis druid gear list for SOD?
Dunno id say the obvious items are smart to go for full pre bis absolutely unrealistic
Hey Druids.
Forgive me.
For someone just doing casual open world pvp, casual dungeons and casual WSG…
Is feral hard to play?
I’m very average but my group is prot warrior, holy priest and hunter.
I’m just trying to help.
I know I’ll be expected to run the flag and that’s what’s scary.
As in completely pointless to even try for
Feral is pretty easy to play imo, just keep roar up and mangle, shred when you here the ring from omen of clarity
most things die before you even have to start worrying about rip and roar is more important to upkeep anyways
theres no bloodfrenzy to play around rn either so its very straight forward
I guess I’m more worried about having to carry. Maybe I should watch some videos!
The best build is the build you enjoy the most
Any way to get a startattack macro for cat form sunfire? just defaults to base sunfire and removes you from form
Cat form sunfire overwrites moonfire rank 1
(while in cat form)
So if you want to macro it you use have to use moonfire(rank1) in cat form
works perfect, ty!
is there a weakaura for savage roar?
what are you looking for exactly?
to track the buff uptime?
I'm not at home, but if you don't find anything until evening just hit me up.
I'll create a small one and give it to you.
It's pretty easy if you have the spell ids 😉
Just find a weakaura for a similar spell. (slice and dice) and change the spellID in the WA
just take the SR one and delete the rest
Wpvp wise, feral swiftness with sun fire or go for the big mangles?
can i get some pointers to a rotation for feral druid in raid?
for SoD
i typically just spam mangle
question for the WOTLK bears out there, is it viable to gem agility and be OT? like be cat and dps everytime besides when im needed to actively tank?
mangle, buff with savage roar on 5 combo, cast shred whenever omen procs
No
Can't you live a boss hit with agi gems?
You aren't an off tank in ICC if your goal is to live 1-2 hits with cds
Some bosses will straight up one shot you
My goal was main bear and when I'm not actively tanking dps in cat
That's why the agi gems
I know that works in cata
Collect a second set of gear
Well I can't change gear mid try
Yea you can change it on some bosses before
So have a hybrid gear for some bosses
You aren't living bosses like saurfang lichking festergut etc etc
And full tank set on others
I remember that I tanked rag on cat gear
Just bear taunt take the hit
Other tank taunts
Keep dps
But that was cata...
whos got a powershift macro that works? also lookin for an omen of clarity WA that works
does sunfire outdps mangle?
In cleave and open world where you can’t shred omen, yes
‘/cast !catform
ah i have to make a macro for it?
For what? Powershift? Yes
ohhh
would it be benifician to sunfire -> rip in cleave or just to eat the combo point loss to get sunfires up faster / return to main target
assuming savage roar is already up and ticking
i feel like its better to tab sunfire and eat the loss
In cleave, you’re basically just tab sunfiring and 1pt roaring since swapping targets drops combo points
Iron counterweight for an enchant on feral druid?
Any idea if that makes WF not work?
Question was answered in classic but for any lurkers, it is an enchant so it does not prevent WF but it requires 165 BS so it’s not available.
3 int / spirit are your options
Any resto healers in SoD? Is there a mana efficient way to heal in the raid? We blow through mana pretty fast so im just curious of ya'lls opinions with the added lifebloom and wild growth.
druids in form work too
amazing
does this take you out of form and put you back into it?
Yes. If you don’t have enough mana, it won’t even leave form. Can do the same with any form
Resto Druid seems notoriously week this phase. Best bet is to probably look at a couple logs and see what they’re casting.
For anyone else wondering, all pets and Druids in form work. Rejuv does not. Use HT.
Got it. Thanks!
ghost wolf shamans work too
this /cast !catform doesnt do anything for me
/cast !Cat Form
Whatever the actual spell name is.
is there some sort of melee proccing clearcasting resto build that anyone's tried for dungos/BFD?
or is the 0/0/16 and living seed + lifebloom + WG rune build the shout
hey are you resto druids downranking healing touch in bfd?
Living seed should be pretty shit
The wrath one at least gives you some damage
100%
i don't know why anyone would go living seed
our hots don't crit
and how often are you hard casting HT
rej, lifebloomx3
catch up with regrowth
haven't experienced it yet, i'm only threorizing
regrowth is a ton of mana though
i think wildgrowth + rejuvs is our strongest heals
11/0/5 or 16/0/0
some people I think go 11/5/0 too but yea id just go 11/0/5 for raid at least
11/5/0 is mathematically worse for cat DPS
Even if you start at 0 mana, you will regen fast enough for furor to outpace ferocity in energy generation vs savings
no shot that that chest rune is worth
over the wrath one
and for feral it recommends going furor second over natural weapons 
questionable
as a resto druid im never going to be wrathing though
why not just have that extra heal
Based
i swapped to omen of clarity build, but dont think ive seen it proc a single time in bear form, is it just super low chance?
aight thanks guys
did you activate it?
but omen isnt particularly great
oh my gosh. i didnt know it had to be activated. im dumb XD
so living see dsucks that bad
sheesh
alright im gonna boot it out of the lineup
do you guys have any good websites for sod rdruid guides?
with bis lists
Should I ever use rake on like a boss or is spamming mangle better?
how much are you gonna crit is basically the question you need to ask yourself
and the answer is not often
can try to find the math but I trust JVMES. By the time you've regen'd enough mana for 1 powershift, you have generated more energy than ferocity has saved
In that time you'll have regened at least 1 powershift (takes 23-25 seconds) which will put you another 28 seconds ahead
okay doing some napkin math (napkin math always the bestest)
currently I have 30 mana/tick (keeping it tick based instead of mp/5 to keep in line with energy - rounded up a bit reality closer to 27/28) and obviously 20 energy/tick - currently ignoring blessing of wisdom will look at that one later
Each 8th mangle is free with ferocity so instead of 7 mangles you will get 8
as you said thats 14 ticks of energy (found 2.5s tick timer is it actually every 2? doesnt particularly matter here tho)
14*30 = 420 so Id regen 420 mana in that time - each cat form obviously giving another mangle too this is somewhat ignoring several things tho - firstly this assumes 100% uptime + 0 energy at the start this also ignores what happens after first shift so should probably remove ~3 mana ticks from the 420 mana 360 would be a lot fairer due to missed 5s rule ticks
id is probably true though
that even at 0 mana furor is (very slightly) more dps - if you time it decently
(one thing which is a lot harder to quantify is the missed fraction of mangles due to shifting out after casting roar for example)
but also 0 mana isnt an exactly reasonable situation
in a more fair situation furor obviously is a lot better too
I'm sorry to barge in and ask, but shouldn't I be able to sunfire / moonfire from cat or bear? I've seen people do it, but every time I do, it shifts me out.
you are yes
go to balance
its moonfire (rank1)
which changes to sunfire
nice if you want to for example have a macro with start attack
hmmm I'm sorry, I don't follow. You're referring to spellbook? Mine were auto-replaced, so I have Moonfire Rank 4. Can I downrank?
yes
oh I see
do you have a screenshot of the balance window?
mine does not
in cat form?
just use the macro in the link
Well, thank you for putting up with my stupidity @noble forge
yea can also macro moonfire rank 1 as bakelt and me said
for what
for talents for feral for 25
yes what are you gonna do
BFD and dungeon spam 🙂
for bfd bosses 11/0/5
I feel like I suck at powershifting
how do you suck at it
Well I wait for the energy tick, and then use powershift macro, but then I guess I don't always shift back. Maybe GCD? I probably need to track GCD alongside of energy ticks.
#showtooltip
/cancelaura Predatory Strikes
/cancelaura Leader of the Pack
/cancelform
/cast Cat Form
just do /cast !Cat Form
do people powershift bear tank too?
for what
those cancelauras havent been needed for a LONG time
thoughts on sunfire vs mangle vs lacerate for tanking dungeons?
thank you so much ❤️
what happens if I unlearn engi while wearing engi goggles
is +2 defense better than +3 str +3stam on cloak?
no
does black malice effect work while a cat?
oh, do i have to redo all the beast healing when i relog
big oof to the server shutdown then
anybody have preraid bis lists for feral dps in sod? i was using sixtyupgrades but its not working now
any specific slot id say the reasonable items should be fairly obvious
literal pre raid bis is not achieveable dont even think about it tbh
I would not say its worth 50g
what pvp talents are people running for feral?
How much better is omen than going for feral tree in sod
I am going to miss that 30% move speed l
Does the wild strike runs give the Druid the extra attack or is it only for party members?
It gives the druid an extra attack but since you're in cat the attack barely does dam
How tf does the boss before the last one in BFD work. Are the mind blasts hatefuls? Is it a cone? No one really understands
is Rake a bait?
does anyone know if omen is working? I dueled my buddy twice and didn't get a single proc
like i just sat there attacking him in bear and didn't get a proc
make sure to buff it, its not a passive
Does anyone know of addon to track low level quests? I want to do all the starting areas and the following zones but each zone has quests off the beaten path.
Does feral actually have to farm centaur near oasis's in barrens for a key??
is there a resource for good macros?
are we taking OOC for bear or no
What’s everyone doing at level 25? Rep farming?
Grinding sick gold from level capped quests
for what? exactly
Savage roar
yeah first two days had insane drop rate for those keys
i had like 9 back to back
idk how it looks like rn
that idol requires you to heal animals tho... which was annoying, because it registered heal only not rejuv
That's wild strikes
best thing i can say for advice is hang out around the kolkar chest near that boss/fungal spores quest and it'll eventually drop
Savage roar is bleed damage to humanoids
oh yeah derp
yeah thats easier lol
did that in stone talon
Rejuv works, but it needs to actually do healing and it has a 3 sec tick rate or something
I was doing it in cities so it was a nuisance because it didnt count most times
Yeah you had to do effective healing so needed animals at less than 100% health
Weird
anyone know how the locked realms work my friend said he was able to get into one of the locked realms and create a characters yesterday but ive had no such luck
I haven’t noticed any locks on NA but also haven’t tried streamer realm
It had said locked for me but at a certain time of day I was able to make a character. Not sure how it works
you can cast rejuv on a hunter pet then cast motw on the pet and it will register as effective heal becauseMOTW gave it more stam
I just whispered random druids asking them to take a bit of fall dmg in Thunder Bluff for me in bear form
most of them seemed more than willing to help
that is if you're worried about losing your inspiration to a random gank
Or regrowth
can anyone help me make a custom boquet in vuhdo so I can see lifebloom hot bars
Anyone know how sunfire scales in forms? Is it AP?
I went Omen and 5/5 Furor
I'm balance to omen and going furor for shifting
Wondering if it's worth going for the moonfire talent and spamming sunfire
Instead of mangle/ furor
That's where I got mine after 5-8 laps around the oasis in front of OC
This is what I came up with as reasonably achieveable pre-BFD or even during your lockouts
reasonably achievable
humberts
haha yea that one is questionable
As well as all the pvp gear and the raid crafted gloves
does BFD have weekly lock out?
resets every 3 days i think
anyone got a Omen of Clarity reminder/tracker WA
Quazi has a great set of weakauras for classic that I recommend. Can always take the buff tracking out of that
Is the 2% haste in?
why does my engergy ticks when i go inot cat go like 20 - 41 -61 -81-100 where does the 1 come from?
🍝
ICW is 165 BS. It is not available
Does +weapon damage affect feral dps? 🙂 i think its the only weapon enchant available in Season of Discovery?
no
gotcha ty 🙂
Best option is 3 int so yeah, take it or leave it
Hi fellow druid enjoyers ! I have a question regarding catweaving as resto druid in wotlk - is this a good place to ask for advices ?
sure can ask but the answer will basically boil down to, why would you?
I am starting to heal dungeons, and I want to know, is catweaving a thing in wotlk ? In retail we as resto have our feral dmg scaling up our intellect, is there such a thing in wotlk ? And if the answer is no, is it a big deal to do it anyway ? What I mean by that is playing resto and catweaving is the fantasy I love about druids, but I don't want to troll dungeons by doing stupid useless stuff. And I would do it because it's fun :p
Oh
also pretty sure that resto weapons have significantly less attack power on them cause they have less dps
- obviously useless enchant
So that means if I want to participate a bit by dealing dmg, I should use moonkin spells like wrath and starfire
yes
Okey, tyvm 🙂
for feral in SoD is powershifting the best playstyle? should i be going for int gear?
powershifting yes
int gear no
is bear form going omen + furor? or just 15 into feral tree?
is there a swing tiemr reset or somehting for feral? where i need to time my mangle after an AA or somehting?
Sunfire is a spell and this a swing reset. Mangle is not
Is there a server for Sod classic
cat sunfire scales off AP? :0
yes
is sunfire affected by any talents? like imp moonfire for example
yes
has there been any testing to see if starsurge benefits from extra spellpower scaling due to the passive letting it get bonuses fromt things that affect wrath and starfire?
my theory was that if you got spellpower, starsurge would basically act as if it had the spellpower coefficient of both wrath and starfire
which is basically the only way the skill could be any good at all
its impacted by talents
it has a 1:1 coefficient
So it's garbage
all phys
Buff incoming I guess
do you know if it affects cat sunfire?
that is nature damage. so it does not
thats true, thought it may have had an interaction due to the AP scaling. ty : )
What are the most efficient heals for resto?
sorry, would just math it out but got pulled into last minute BRD as resto
and im boomy
omen of clarity not proc from mangle?


