What would be equivalency of 1 spell power in spirit for resto druid? For pve.
And is 1sp=1haste or haste better?
I tried to google a bit about spell power and it looks like the value of spell power is different for every spell?
#classic
gritty blaze
noble forge
What would be equivalency of 1 spell power in spirit for resto druid? For pve.
A...
Yes spellpower scaling changes
shy lake
Each spell has a different spell coefficient
Here is a link to classic resto channel on weights and how to generate your own. You’ll need to join the classic discord for the link to work #952320365932183572 message
sudden gull
any1 have bis list for boomkin in ulduar phase?
hidden arrow
Moar stats
cold moth
Figured out that you can infinitely cast tranquility with no mana (dependent on clearcast procs but it's basically infinite unless you have really bad procs), no cooldown, and very little threat in wotlk. Healing as a resto has never been easier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysLgbdLf53U
noble forge
sounds pretty bad
cold moth
Probably can't be taken past heroics without understand the mechanics of the fight you go into (basically if you are bad, this won't make you better). Not worth getting rid of my raid set, but for some bosses like patchwerk, I could see this being ideal for healing through cleaves.
Although I have read about people doing this setup in naxx with minor issues (mainly on their part of surviving)
noble forge
while hcs are easy even for those it sounds very bad
cause most of the dmg would be tank
like sure you can prolly do all of ulduar hc with it but thats cause its easy content
not cause its a good spec
cold moth
Sure if you find a "tank" that gets hit for absurd amounts, this probably is bad lol. Then again, the tank was never viable imo. When you heal 4.5k every 1.4-1.7 seconds, the major thing of concern is immense burst which should be overcome with some sort of HoT or N/S + HT.
Personally I've never considered any wrath (since marrowgar nerf) hard. At least back then. Scripted content is typically just a matter of understanding the mechanics of what you're going into.
I'm not even certain if you can do certain bosses with this gear in Naxx25 given you can be killed nearly instantly. Just a cool theory craft I put together.
noble forge
I guess to me I dont really understand playing sth like that, its kinda like tank shaman
but I guess people have fun in different ways
hybrid shard
Hi guys, im looking for advice on feral minmaxing for parsing, anyone here that would answer a couple questions in private?
gritty blaze
Anyone knows where can I check WotlK season 6 bis for PVP? For Resto
west basin
我是台灣的truegrofe，大家好啊
shy lake
slate quarry
ut
wooden talon
@noble forge hello, how do I play druid?
distant valley
Growly slashy flashy bitey, rinse and repeat?
gritty blaze
Why this druid https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7J8n9YHrP3FqNQg1/#fight=last&type=healing&source=16 wild growth hps so much highter that this druid https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7J8n9YHrP3FqNQg1/#fight=last&type=healing&source=13
Hes spell power only slightly highter but haste much highter
But haste do not affect hps right?
noble forge
the hits are very relevant
also looks like the one druid cast it on the sarth tank
a few times
crisp mist
anyone know a good source to look up Bis for resto druid? every site I looked at tells me something different?
zinc fiber
questionablyepic.com and icy veins guides are good and explain gear
gritty blaze
Here is a link to classic resto channel on weights and how to generate your own....
Can you give a link to this discord? I joined first from google, apparently it is not it.
noble forge
isnt that literally linked?
gritty blaze
isnt that literally linked?
No, if I click it just says you cannot access this channel
gritty blaze
whats with the one in pins?
That one does it, thanks!
noble forge
perfect, tbh thought that was the thing you responded to but that was just a link to there
shy lake
you have to be a member of a discord to accept direct links
sacred cape
anyone can give me a good pve raid spec for balance in wtlk?
rocky kestrel
Anyone who could help me by looking my boomkin over? I think there is room for optimizing, but I have steered myself blind looking at it ><
zinc fiber
close the game and walk away for a little while
you need to change your environment or you won't be able to reopen the right side of your brain
torpid mantle
dull lagoon
Nice
torpid mantle
dim loom
Does anyone know how I can make Luxthos' druid weak aura pack show the rage and energy bars at the same time regardless of stance?
dim loom
I’m also looking for some insight on when it would be worth clipping rip if for instance you have some big procs, and does haste affect rip’s damage? What is a good way to track to see if rip is worth clipping based on its snapshotted power level and to see if what your current power level would be more or less
dim loom
Additionally, aside from idol swapping and snake weaving, is there any sort of considerations I need to make for my melee swing timer with feral? Do I need to adjust when I use abilities in the rotation other than swapping forms wherein it’s more favourable to use them at a certain state of the swing timer?
open basin
hey how long to level a brand new fresh toon?
No idea but I paid for a boost to 70 and it took me a month to get to 80
noble forge
you prolly did lvl quite slow/didnt have much time 70 to 80 you can do in a day if you go insanly hardcore more realistic is like a weekish
if you dont go too ham
rocky kestrel
Any guardians here, who can help me with a few questions?
heady crow
Any guardians here, who can help me with a few questions?
ive been known to be a bear, what can i do for ya brother ^^
brazen oriole
any resto fanatics?
boreal wing
prob in resto bro
dire karma
i got the t8 4set now, but i need a WA for the free starfire procc? does anyone have that?
gentle jolt
i got the t8 4set now, but i need a WA for the free starfire procc? does anyone ...
This might work, but I have 0 idea if it's been updated for this patch
heady goblet
peeps - wheres the spot for classic balance theorycraft/discussion? Is there another discord?
gentle jolt
peeps - wheres the spot for classic balance theorycraft/discussion? Is there ano...
If you google "druid classic discord" it should be the first one that pops up
frigid robin
it's also pinned
pseudo minnow
hi lakez!
frigid robin
$pb 1050590743036690503 spam
ancient eagleBOT
Done.
soft holly
is there a diff discord for wotlk classic druid?
gentle jolt
is there a diff discord for wotlk classic druid?
Yeah it's in the pins in here
soft holly
ty
upper narwhal
yo classic
noble forge
Yo lake
low roost
Lake send that, she had my phone ._.
noble forge
Lake send that, she had my phone ._.
hear me out, do you have sharp objects?
low roost
Multiple, always
lost lodge
Yo classic
upper narwhal
hear me out, do you have sharp objects?
WTFFFD
crisp mist
So question for y’all, what is better standard haste build (856 haste) or haste build (735 haste) for a resto Druid in classic?
civic mantle
yo guys
how much DPS u guys think Feral can get in Ulduar ?
i'm trying a lot but not passing 4.1~4.5
any vids for help ? 🙂
heady crow
Anything by beardigo is pretty good
hidden arrow
i'm trying a lot but not passing 4.1~4.5
Are you bear weaving and snapshotting
heady crow
its been a while since i played classic, but youre leaving dps on the table if youre not using the albino snake weakaura if youre bearweaving
hidden arrow
I mean, at that point it might be time to consider going boomkin
noble forge
while true - if they are doing 4k dps I dont think that full on abusing snake and bearweaving is the main thing to fix
fierce basin
<@&114146878353833984> ^^
noble forge
Very easy to earn that just scam!
austere wind
How do I outheal disc priests and holy paladins
hidden arrow
How do I outheal disc priests and holy paladins
noble forge
How do I outheal disc priests and holy paladins
reroll
cold moth
Hello guys. I want to ask something about powershifting
Can you do it with macro with only 1 click? or you need 2 clicks in order to shift again
cold moth
i have it keybind but it seems i need to reclick it.
so when im out of energy i go ` (keybind) going human form and then i need to reclick keybind to go kitty
and this way im losing way too much time
hidden arrow
Waaait, are you on classic classic or wotlk? Because I thought you just mean for breaking root
Since power shifting for energy isn't a think in wotlk iirc
hidden arrow
So to powershift inclassic you have to be out of the GCD, because iirc cat form triggers the GCD, it should work in one press, but only if you're not mid GCD. Also priv servers generally don't have the most accurate action batching, so YMMV
crisp quiver
woven mauve
Hello all,
i hope this is the right channel for this topic
I am looking for help to make my druid better.
Our group is having a hard time killing algalon.
I'll send you the log and maybe you can tell me what I'm doing wrong or can do better. The DMG also looks so bad, because I always have to use rebirth and then I can't manage with my already scarce mana (innervate for the healers). Thus, I have mostly at the end of the P1 no more mana. About help I would be very grateful
hidden arrow
Moonfire is a manahog
It's damage per mana is dumpster fire, if you're suffering with mana, that's the first thing I'd cut
noble forge
Also can't check your talents atm
But especially if you give innervates away don't wanna use the cookie cutter ICC build
woven mauve
Ok thx for the answer. I will try it.👍🏼
zinc fiber
can't u use lower rank mf
noble forge
no
teal lily
zinc fiber
that just doesn't seem fair
pseudo minnow
You don't need to cut mf but you also don't want to have it all the time. You basically want to have it up when you're in lunar eclipse since iis and Starfire glyph make it very worth it. So cast it after solar is done as well as on pull
woven mauve
Thx for the hints. We kill him yesterday. 👍🏼 and thx for your post cog but it was really useless😂
celest sinew
Thx for the hints. We kill him yesterday. 👍🏼 and thx for your post cog but it ...
Classical posting in the classic channel
analog ermine
Was thinking about jumping into classic. Not sure how it works or is it just wrath now/did classic get sunset?
hidden arrow
There are wotlk which is most of the classic, and then there are seasons of mastery server which are classic only
And I think a few just pure classic
But there's 3 clients
hidden arrow
Was thinking about jumping into classic. Not sure how it works or is it just wra...
It's fun, but don't expect balance or being able to push cutting edge as just "anything"
There are just some specs that don't work depending on the fight
noble forge
Well but then the content is piss easy so if you have a group willing to bring you it's gonna be fjne
hidden arrow
Well but then the content is piss easy so if you have a group willing to bring y...
Depends, like if you have a stacked crew you can afford a crap spec or two, but you won't get some DPS checks done running a dozen off meta specs or lacking major raidbuffs
noble forge
You likely would still get it unless you intentionally try to get some of the worst comp
Probably biggest issue would be algalon without hpalas
analog ermine
I don't even know what "versions" of classic are out and how they work or don't work together.
And how's the pop
noble forge
currently you can play either wotlk or vanilla classic
I am playing wotlk - the playerbase at least on big servers is quite high I think thats even more extreme on vanilla
where you have like 2-3 servers with relevant playerbase but I believe they are fairly active (again)
analog ermine
What's this Hardcore Classic people are doing. That peaks my interest. Is it just a self imposed thing or have blizz implemented a version.
gentle jolt
Self-imposed afaik
muted nexus
will there be mop classic?
noble forge
maybe
muted nexus
I cant waiit id love to play it
hidden arrow
We literally don't know if they're going to just do "classic with a twist" or continued progression
With Holly Longdale in charge they'll probably do both, because that's how she kept everquest afloat long after that IP should have died
final garnet
the little rocket? its engineering
hidden arrow
i see in wotlk arena
If you're doing arena without engineering you're at a massive disadvantage
polar vine
im level 18 bro
hidden arrow
Than you'll be glad to have that advice before you get very far
noble forge
If you're doing arena without engineering you're at a massive disadvantage
thats not even true
quite a few people are going BS/JC for s7
engi is way better in pve compared to pvp
hidden arrow
Hm tru druids don't have to worry about closers
polar vine
i wasnt going to take pvp advice from yuou anyway
noble forge
Hm tru druids don't have to worry about closers
closers, what you on about?
engi doesnt help you close
its either haste on use or a rocket on use
if you talk about nitro boots - they cant be used in the relevant ranked pvp which is arena if it could be used/if you talk about bgs its obviously by far the best
but 99% of the pvp players dont particularly care about that
muted nexus
hey
rocky kestrel
Guys for boomkin, is it worth going full SP gems rather than socket reckless/quick for hastecap?
rocky kestrel
Anyone?
gentle jolt
I would try in the classic druid discord
You can find it in the pins if you don't have it
noble forge
Anyone?
Pretty sure the answer is sp however sockets are relevant cause if you wanted the haste pure haste gema are better anyway assuming socket boni would not be the deciding factor
So for some sockets it will be worth to use sp haste or sp crit depending on your gear
rocky kestrel
@gentle jolt can you link it to me?
@noble forge I agree, but should SC be reached by gear only or with help by example reckless?
noble forge
He told you where to find it
noble forge
<@138022269782982656> can you link it to me?
<@139532395769495552> I agree, but...
And to my ping softcaps aren't things you want to reach it's things where stuff happens
And the thing with moonkin what happens is haste gets worse after that point compared to before
Also assuming you talk about the one around 400 that's kinda something you more or less passively get
rocky kestrel
With my gear atm I got 262 with 5166 gs. Without gems
feral stream
is it possible to run from human starting zone to nightelf starting zone in hardcore without dying?
noble forge
Probably
tacit sedge
Weird thing to post in a druid discord
hidden arrow
Maybe most of it involves getting 1 shot by the megabuffed ferals?
polar vine
yes
flat summit
Ha..."buffed" ferals
gentle jolt
I think going from bottom half to top 5 on most bosses might indicate that they got buffed
hidden arrow
It got reverted already
Idk I haven't played cat on Classic all wotlk, because tanking
gentle jolt
I thought they only got buffed and the nerf was reverted
hidden arrow
Like I said, IDK
slate copper
They had fixed flowerweaving for boomies and nerfed a talent that gave ferals (both cats and bear) a 10% damage so it gives only 5%, then buffed bears threat by like 1.5% to "compensate". Then they got a backlash from the community and reverted the nerfs but kept the buffs.
Basically it's they saying "we have no idea what we are doing"
hidden arrow
Like either balance the game or don't
slate copper
I don't mind they trying to balance the game if they knew what they were doing but they shown they can't really
That nerf was pushed into live without even going through PTR. After they reversed they posted a bluepost saying they should have put it in the PTR... 
Like. No shit! That's the whole purpose of PTR?
noble forge
Like either balance the game or don't
Big reason was the bearweaving from what I've seen which they don't like
hidden arrow
They went all tbc without addressing the power shifting
noble forge
They went all tbc without addressing the power shifting
Which part?
Pretty sure the real Degen stuff they actually patched no?
shy lake
Pretty sure the real Degen stuff they actually patched no?
Poor one out for the boys 
slate copper
Big reason was the bearweaving from what I've seen which they don't like
That seemed like a excuse they had to fix the thousand cats yelling at the forum after ret got buffed.
Now they say they plan messing with the wars.
What was the problem with the psing?
I started playing feral like halfway through tbc, didn't notice anything wrong with it.
hidden arrow
The fact we were wearing a level 40 item to facilitate the play style
slate copper
Yeah that was a problem 
I though it was a problem with the mechanic itself because I liked powershifting over the whatever-weaving they come today. But yeah, helm was bad.
gentle jolt
They had fixed flowerweaving for boomies and nerfed a talent that gave ferals (b...
This backlash from the community was very wild to me. The changes were never intended to be buffs, just to remove the bearweaving part. They overshot the mark with the faerie fire proccing OOC thing and went to bring ferals back to where they were through the 10->5% talent change and compensating bears with bonus threat (Unless you can point me to actual data saying 1.5%, I'm going to assume the real number was just a bit higher)
Last I heard ferals are now outsimming shadowmourne wielding fury warriors in ICC
And that's dumb
slate copper
This backlash from the community was very wild to me. The changes were never int...
There wasn't any public statements from Blizzard on how much the buff was. The best there is as far as i know are estimations made by people by brute forcing (attacking the dummy and plotting the values) on the classic discord:
Lot of conversations like.
#952320428494454806 message
And scrolling down. But from what they could conclude they changed the accumulated on bear form from 2.07 to about 2.1021 which gives around a 1.5% value in quick math. Current iterations of the sims shows that:
#952320428494454806 message
(9716/9576=1.0146)
Even if it was a bit higher, 3% lets say. It never compensate for the 5% loss from the nerf on what is somewhat considered the worst threat generating tank
At least for aoe
And I don't disagree ferals needed a nerf. Blizzard just need to make sure that they test the changes before just pulling they live.
Also that was a sneak patch on like monday? If I'm not wrong. They posted they bluepost about two hours after it already was live and people where yelling
Also my threat still feels like shit compared to other tanks in the guild anyway. Not that it matters since the 99 parse pumpers lock end up pulling threat from any tank anyway but there's a few reasons that bear tends to be the least played tank and giving us a nerf is just annoying...
hidden arrow
Having to use a crap pvp idol from a leveling area to make swipe so auto attack damage feelsbad
slate copper
Balancing feels all around bad rn.
I haven't touched much cat tho. No idea which idol they are using.
slate copper
Oof
I don't like Ulduar that much. I liked tanking it a bit but some bosses tho...
Vezax is annoying
And when dpsing as boomie it just feels like an rngfest
noble forge
Balancing feels all around bad rn.
They said they won't really rebalance stuff so we kinda knew that beforehand
slate copper
Eh. They kinda are trying tho. Buffed pallys to rebalance then, accidentally buffed cats and now they wanting to change warriors.
They said they wouldnt but kinda fell due to the community outcry.
noble forge
Eh. They kinda are trying tho. Buffed pallys to rebalance then, accidentally buf...
yea currently the only rebalance they did was ret
and actually UH dk nerf
gentle jolt
and actually UH dk nerf
Which, if you ask UH dks, made them UNVIABLE
slate copper
UH nerf felt more like a bugfix than a nerf as it was just to avoid snapshot abuse. And even after it they still pump hard so 
slate copper
Not saying it doesn't count as a nerf. Afterall it did decrease their DPS
gentle jolt
I've said it before and I'll keep repeating it. I would pay to have a version of classic where they actually tried to balance specs and make clasically unviable specs competitive
slate copper
But in the same way the feral changes count as a buff. They themselves said they expected a 5%-10% DPS increase on feral.
gentle jolt
I should have put unviable in quotes
slate copper
I've said it before and I'll keep repeating it. I would pay to have a version of...
Agree
neat lance
Can anyone clarify that with the feral adjustments bear-weaving is no longer a thing? Secondly that would mean to no longer stack strength gear (according to p1 guides). I can’t seem to find any solid info on this.
slate copper
Haven't noticed our feral bearwave so I assume no. And as far as I'm aware it affects nothing on the build, you still stack armor pen (with runestone/toll) then ilvl/strength.
noble forge
Haven't noticed our feral bearwave so I assume no. And as far as I'm aware it af...
no reason to go strength if there is no bear weaving
agi would just be better at that point only reason you went strength over agi was for bear
neat lance
That’s what I figured unless there’s some additional benefit to cat from strength that I’m unaware of
slate copper
Last time I heard str was still simming higher since it gives more AP (2ap/str)
Overall best you cand do is just sim it
If wowhead is right it's Agi is 1AP+1/83crit and str is 2AP so it depends or not on whether you need the crit
In either case they are gonna be close so feel free to go agi or str. Whichever fits
gentle jolt
Unless you're crit capped it sounds like it's equal, but agi also gives crit
shy lake
You go agi because strength stacking on cats conflicts with RP
slate copper
Buffed cats 
flat summit
If only Feral was liked that in this xpac /:
tacit sedge
That's feral in ICC
proper maple
the reign of feral is only just begun
humble mesa
Hello together im kinda new to bear tanking but my current Guild needs a Hybrid bear/cat for some bosses. So I try to get into hybrid Tank. Now my question is, does I do need 2 full gears or therefore I will mainly be in cat form do I use TankGear, sockets and enchants as bear and just make dps in cat form? Or do I prepare my gear as cat and just switch in bear form? Thanks a lot and have a great day.
noble forge
2 sets
keen bane
hey. can i link a wotlk log somewhere to get a review and some tips on alga?
mossy pelican
@keen bane Honestly, you should probably post any logs for analysis on the Druid Classic discord. There’s specific sections for it.
keen bane
i thought this was it 😮
shy lake
This is the retail discord which just has a classic channel to keep some conversation isolated and provide a link to the classic discord
Link is in the pins
ancient steppe
is there a BiS list out for feral ToC yet?
golden dune
Hi there, can anyone help me with anzu on faerlina horde? 
fair viper
Yo classic enjoyers, any addon that gives simple map location of rares / chests ? RareScanner is no good for me.
zinc fiber
I know there's a classic druid server idk if anyone here would reply or why this channel exists anymore
frigid orchid
Change to xmog channel
zinc fiber
they can't stop us if we just make it the transmog channel
final garnet
theres more voice channels than text channels, surely we could have an xmog text channel 
zinc fiber
how about xmog channel that's pics only no chat
zinc fiber
I haven't played wow since 2018
frigid orchid
haughty wigeon
can anyone tell me if there is a armor pen soft cap ?
noble forge
yes hardcap - trinket proccs
lusty crag
quick question: how many targets do you use swip vs multidot/just singletarget
zinc fiber
there's a classic druid discord u should check it out
shy lake
frigid orchid
were in druid discord
feel free to post xmog in this chat
boreal wing
they need to rename this tab
frigid robin
why
frigid orchid
slate copper
zinc fiber
quick veldt
hollow bone
frigid robin
no
frigid orchid
lofty harbor
frigid orchid
slender leaf
anyone have any ideas on why my faerie fire isnt procing clearcasting state?
sour orchid
anyone have any ideas on why my faerie fire isnt procing clearcasting state?
Did you get the new glyph?
unborn copper
Hi
shy lake
frigid orchid
near oasis
frigid robin
no
shy lake
I still love you Thyme, even though you continue to bring unhappiness to bear tower.
frigid robin
they're fine in the right channels
proud fog
does owlkin frenzy proc from the following damage sources:
Valkyrs ticking damage aura
Anub p3 swam
swarmer scarab ticking damage
thermal sapper charge
demonic rune
dire mulch
hey, what is go-to resto spec for classic era?
upper narwhal
yo classic
exotic cypress
What is the best wep enchant for leveling feral druid in classic?
noble forge
crusader
exotic cypress
I thought it doesn't proc in forms?
noble forge
it does int wrath
empty vale
yo classic
yo lakez
silent arch
Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask but I'm coming back to classic from Phase 1 and just got my feral to 80. Which reps do I need to focus on levelling? Or can someone point me to some resources for these basic things that are relevant in P3? 
vast sequoia
Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask but I'm coming back to classic from ...
wowhead has complete guide for gearing in p3
rotund shore
Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask but I'm coming back to classic from ...
i think there's a classic specific discord in pins too that's more active 🙂 ❤️
gilded sequoia
Is druid playable in classic? I never played but wanna start it today
noble forge
Yes
gilded sequoia
Any recommandations on which server to play on?
shy lake
It’s playable but probably the worst classic class.
Bear is just press maul,
Cat is 3x the effort for 2/3 the damage
Resto is a worse priest that brings faerie fire
Play it if you want of course. Enough guilds have issues sustaining their team so you’ll still find a guild
waxen bough
can you force dc to insta logout?
shy lake
No
undone whale
you can in certain situations
hoary sapphire
Hey in classic how does the stats arcane dmg + etc work with dots like moonfire?
shy lake
Spell coefficient
fading wagon
anyone wanna make toons and level together?
crude spear
does anyone know if chance on hit works with cat auto in wotlk? I know it didn't back in classic
quick beacon
Guys, one question.
Has anyone sent gold to an alt character in classic HC?
And if so, how long does it take to get the gold?
oak tinsel
@quick beacon 1 hour
quick beacon
<@328615909117919242> 1 hour
ty! ^^
soft compass
Hello everyone. Recently I managed to get the dual talent spec (wotlk) and I really would love to try resto druid (never been resto so far). But as I can see in icy veins and wohead there are two talent builds for resto - thicc resto and celestial focus. My question is can someone explain to me the major differences between these two and which one would be more suitable for off spec? Currently level 70.
wraith relic
Hello everyone. Recently I managed to get the dual talent spec (wotlk) and I rea...
Might have better luck asking in the classic Druid discord
I will pm
unique tartan
Hello everyone. Recently I managed to get the dual talent spec (wotlk) and I rea...
It's mainly because of haste caps. If you are coming from boomie then Celestial Focus build is probably better because you haven't been building for pure haste like you do in resto. But you might have so much haste that Thicc is a choice, depends on how much haste you have and if you are over the 735 haste cap with current gear.
frigid robin
it's in the pins
soft blade
With lunar eclipse and solar eclipse, if wrath doesn’t proc into solar eclipse by the time lunar eclipse proc is off cooldown should I stop spamming starfire and start spamming wrath again for lunar eclipse starfire proc?
Or just strictly follow the rotation
static terrace
anyone know alot about classic druids in detail?
shy lake
The pinned discord does
static terrace
ohh thnx
shadow wharf
shy lake
Druid classic discord in the pins has a somewhat active hardcore channel. I don’t know if there is a hardcore specific discord
real remnant
Do cat abilities such as bleeds scale with int like in Retail? Or is a restocat PVP spec completely unviable?
noble forge
they dont
real remnant
okay, thanks, didn't think so
exotic girder
does anyone know if its possible to play on the same account at the same time or is this a dumb question?
rain shore
does anyone know if its possible to play on the same account at the same time or...
you can't have to have two different accounts
noble forge
does anyone know if its possible to play on the same account at the same time or...
depends a bit what you mean when saying account - bnet account yes wow account no
sacred sluice
any classic feral players could assist me with stats?
Somehow looking at logs I crit like 10-20% less than other players with shred, but I have more gear than them. Same trinkets- but I have higher crit rating AND higher agility
example:
Log A: 70.6% Shred Crits
Log B: <60% Shred Crits
Log A stats(trinkets same):
Log B stats(trinkets same):
Is setup b too much crit or agility? Contains no agility gems, and no crit gems so confused as to why crits just aren't happening as often.
sacred sluice
Well I was hoping there was some difference more so than just luck of the draw as a potential reason.
Cause that doesn't feel too good knowing the potential is all luck based lol
deft plover
Coming back from a bit of a break and feeling a bit overwhelmed as to what to spend badges on :X
I'm playing resto, sitting at around 4200 gear score. I have gotten 2 pc from random H++ drops.
Any advice of what to go for first?
sacred sluice
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gPMwDxL4CTNQA9ZF#fight=2&type=damage-do...
Yeah the rip I was trying to lose uptime and only snap with dark matter proc, so that worked swimingly well.
But I guess shred is just up to god whether it crits or not.
shy lake
Sample sizes of 50 are incredibly small
graceful dome
Anybody playing on the hardcore server? What do you think so far?
wraith relic
Anybody playing on the hardcore server? What do you think so far?
Defias server is packed and it’s as fun as you make it. It’s just classic w one life
digital flume
what is the best race in all of wotlk for druid?
noble forge
you dont really have a choice
mental crystal
Do you like the colour blue or red more
digital flume
Do you like the colour blue or red more
what do you mean are you guys saying it's troll? cuz i think icy veins was saying it's tauren
shy lake
Go select troll and let us know how that works out for you
echo trench
You can only select tauren or night elf. The blue and red was referring to horde or alliance
gentle gazelle
wotlk has meld in combat right now
i forget i never played nelf in classic
i think its just always nelf in every situation? unless ur bear o.o
does tauren get a stam buff at all i forget
at that point just like, check what server ur playing or just play whatever faction u have already 
sharp garnet
anyone have a talent guide for wotlk before i get tierset?
noble forge
wotlk has meld in combat right now
Doesn't help you
Both nelf and tauren are essentially useless for pve
rain shore
atleast u could have like some sort of pvp bo nus
not the same value as retail meld
and there isn't a 5% movement speed for stealth
so technically tauren is a little better in pvp with a bigger health pool
noble forge
atleast u could have like some sort of pvp bo nus
sure warstomp isnt bad either for pvp tho
but obviously nightelf will be way better in pvp
but that reason isnt nightelf bonus
its human bonus for your teammates
noble forge
not the same value as retail meld
what why
you can still meld spells
which is the main power of meld
narrow dust
is boomkin a lot more fun to play in wrath than classic
rain shore
is boomkin a lot more fun to play in wrath than classic
Yes
rain shore
might have to get max level
thin prism
Hey guys I just lost my lvl 10 on defies. I'd love to go again. Does anyone wanna group up? Sorry if I shouldn't post this here.
narrow dust
are there different looking flight forms on wrath classic or just the one
toxic thistle
Does a tank druid use a nightmare tear at all? 🙂
cold moth
When levelling in wotlk, is it worthwhile to use pounce and shred as an opener? I've just been using Rake, Claw, Rip/Bite
noble forge
When levelling in wotlk, is it worthwhile to use pounce and shred as an opener? ...
id prolly not use pounce/shred at all for leveling - you shoudlnt really use points in shred to begin with and stealth is really slow
with druid/feral leveling kinda have to accept it kinda sucks till you unlock mangle
I ended up leveling as moonkin but I also have double BoA mana trinkets which help a lot
wraith relic
When levelling in wotlk, is it worthwhile to use pounce and shred as an opener? ...
Apply faerie fire, rake and then just claw and bite until mangle like Ent said. Then replace claw w mangle and done
noble forge
Rake also being somewhat optional depending on kill times
rugged harbor
how are feral tanks in classic?
i have a lvl 43 feral tank and it has been hard for me to lvl
wraith relic
i have a lvl 43 feral tank and it has been hard for me to lvl
I’d just level as cat and go bear when i do a dungeon
cold moth
@rugged harbor classic wotlk? or era? i find wotlk dungeons easy to tank with feral dps gear but it's not as good as a pally tank, it's definitely slower
but levelling in general will be slower as a tank
rugged harbor
I’d just level as cat and go bear when i do a dungeon
I may have to do that
rugged harbor
<@247230565462310932> classic wotlk? or era? i find wotlk dungeons easy to tank ...
Well I’m lvl 43 but I have wotlk
wraith relic
Really only ever went bear while questing if I was tanking an elite mob or if I pulled 3-4 mobs
Other than that it’s cat
noble forge
Imo cat level pretty garbage till at least mid 40s
When you unlock infinite mana
As feral I mostly stayed bear before that
Maul Glyph goes hard
rugged harbor
So recommend going cat unless I need to tank an elite, should I keep my talents as feral tank or dps
wraith relic
So recommend going cat unless I need to tank an elite, should I keep my talents ...
I think there are several talent set ups that make you like a hybrid between both tank and dps /heal
jade pebble
frigid robin
wrong channel
noble forge
So recommend going cat unless I need to tank an elite, should I keep my talents ...
For leveling it's The same talents
spare flare
if i want to play a druid with my friends in hardcore..is there an easy way for me to play with them?
or will I have to wait until like 20+?
shy lake
if i want to play a druid with my friends in hardcore..is there an easy way for ...
Do you mean specifically about getting to the same continent as night elf?
You can buy a portal (or hope kind people exist) and there are low-risk guides for running to Ironforge.
distant sun
whats the best classic (not hc) server to play on atm? are any populated?
wraith relic
whats the best classic (not hc) server to play on atm? are any populated?
You can look on ironforge.pro or Warcraft taverns. They are pretty accurate.
For eu idk but for NA the popular WOTLK servers are Pagle, Benediction, Faerlina and I think Mankrik and Grobbulous. The first two being primarily alliance and the other two horde. Grobb is mixed
distant sun
Thank you 🙂
rotund wharf
🌿 Calling all Druids! 🌿
I've just posted an important topic regarding a significant druid-related issue on Forums. Your input and upvotes are crucial to bring attention to this matter and drive change within the community. Let's unite and make our voices heard!
Your support means a lot! Let's work together to make a difference for Druids everywhere. 🌟 #DruidCommunity #UpvoteForChange #Copium
If somone has character on NA please feel free to post the same post at NA forums
mental crystal
🌿 Calling all Druids! 🌿
I've just posted an important topic regarding a significant druid-related issue on Forums. Your input and upvotes are crucial to bring attention to this matter and drive change within the community. Let's unite and make our voices heard!
Your support means a lot! Let's work together to make a difference for Druids everywhere. 🌟 #DruidCommunity #UpvoteForChange #Copium
real remnant
Am I correct in my conclusion that this effectively does not proc at lvl 80?
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=19288/darkmoon-card-blue-dragon#comments
noble forge
dunno but it also looks extremly bad
real remnant
It was so good that in retail they had the patch it so it didn't work above lvl 69 (pre level squish). I just forget when they did that and if that's the case on WotLK classic
noble forge
in the link you posted
people did napkin math
which assumed like best possible situation for that trinket and its dogshit
for napkin math at least to me
this seems to check out
real remnant
I'm not going off of napkin math, I'm going off of how it actually worked in retail...
Regardless, I'm not trying to determine if it is "good" or "dog shit". I'm just trying to determine if it was hotfixed to not proc.
noble forge
unlikely
because in (again the link you posted)
people from wrath talk about it
and take the 2% into account
real remnant
Yes, that was my conclusion, but in testing I'm not seeing it proc. Plus, as you said, that's napkin math. Napkin math doesn't account for blizz making it not proc
noble forge
do you have logs?
like in real gameplay
id assume it proccs on average about once every ~ 2 minutes
maybe every 90s if you cast a lot
eh prolly 90s is more likely
and if it supposedly has no icd it can overwrite itself which makes it even worse
real remnant
well with a haste capped druid spamming rejuvs, that's 1 spell/ sec. At a 2% proc change, you should see a proc after about 50 casts on average. I've probably hit around 200 casts, and it never procced.
No logs, just spamming heals on myself for testing purposes.
noble forge
haste cap outside group?
whats that like 1.2k haste or sth
its a stupid amount at least
real remnant
Haste capped for 1 sec gcd
real remnant
with talents it's only 735
noble forge
with talents and raidbuffs
not only talents
you are missing 8%
but sure you should average one procc every minute of straight casting
real remnant
okay, this is very draining. Regardless, about 200 casts with no proc...
noble forge
yes sure but without any proof of that happening
no one will believe that claim
people are historically very bad at estimating casts/checking for proccs etc
real remnant
hence why I am asking if others found similar results...
real remnant
perhaps, but I still asked.
noble forge
and I answered - I did just read a bit in the classic druid about the trinket which originally was somewhat recommended in p1 - but very fast they went away from it
and have even an emote with the icon called dogshit
but it sounds like it proccs jus as expected
real remnant
Thanks. Perhaps I just have back luck.
What is "classic druid"? Is this a website?
shy lake
Thanks. Perhaps I just have back luck.
What is "classic druid"? Is this a websi...
Discord in the pins of this channel. Dedicated discord to classic
real remnant
So I’m trying to join it, but it’s asking for my password. Where do I register an account for that server? Surely it’s not my discord password the are asking for, right?
I didn’t see an open channel for me to ask in that server
shy lake
I didn’t see an open channel for me to ask in that server
It shouldn’t ask for anything as far as I recall. Have a screenshot?
real remnant
I can join the server and browse, but I can’t talk until 2fa via text (which I did) followed up with this:
Can’t imagine why a user run discord server would need my discord wide password. So I must be missing something. How would they even be able to verify it is valid?
shy lake
Is it asking you to confirm password to add 2FA to the account? I’ll check if a mod there has seen this before
real remnant
I don’t think so, the 2fa seemed like a one off thing just to authenticate I wasn’t a bot (if the captcha wasn’t enough I guess lol).
Thank you for looking into it. I wasn’t sure where else to ask.
shy lake
I don’t think so, the 2fa seemed like a one off thing just to authenticate I was...
Taladril = server owner
real remnant
Ahh, so I just have to add 2fa to my discord account. I been meaning to do that anyway. Thank you for the assistance, will set it up once I get home.
shy lake
No problem. Egg is a good egg and wouldn’t leave you astray. He is a mod, feral TC since classic, and writes a lot of the feral and tank guides for Wowhead.
mental island
Anyone know if Black Duskwood Staff is good for Feral while leveling?
swift kiln
Anyone know if Black Duskwood Staff is good for Feral while leveling?
should just grab a viscious hammer instead
noble forge
Anyone know if Black Duskwood Staff is good for Feral while leveling?
are you talking wotlk or vanilla
mental island
Vanilla
noble forge
in that case essentially everything is better
the dps does nothing and the procc doesnt procc
so any item with 1 stat in anything is better
shy lake
It’s not even a mace so you can’t counterweight it either
obtuse terrace
Anyone know when we switch out T9? After get 2set or 4set? (resto btw)
thorn verge
It’s not even a mace so you can’t counterweight it either
What do you mean by counterweight it? Thanks
shy lake
What do you mean by counterweight it? Thanks
Best enchant for bear. Still ok for cat. Super cheap
It basically makes all staves but Atiesh bad
rocky kestrel
Hey bois - Can anyone share their ICC Boomkin specc?
final garnet
Hey bois - Can anyone share their ICC Boomkin specc?
you will have better luck asking on the classic druid discord (check the pins)
steel remnant
@noble forge have you been active in wotlk at all?
I need some help and i cba joining the classic druid discord
noble forge
yes
steel remnant
yes
sec
do I save for Archon Glaive with scourge stones or buy the Thorim rune? for a major upgrade rn
steel remnant
wait there are classic sims?
steel remnant
yeah its the pvp wep
steel remnant
deadly
steel remnant
Yeah i started gearing yesterday
noble forge
there is a better one from ulduar 10
steel remnant
archon was p3 bis
noble forge
id get mjollnir but also prolly doesnt matter much what you buy first
you google feral wotlk sim
and you get prolly to a website looking right out of the 90s
but its likely better then complete guesswork
steel remnant
yeah DV is there
noble forge
btw if you also wanna gear with gamma dungeons
highly recommend to go bear
and just tank them
insta qs
steel remnant
aggro felt very bad in reg Hs
rocky pecan
Hey wrath folks just heard maybe nerf to feral Druid’s today? Any cats feeling it? Haven’t seen any notes or anything
mental crystal
Oh shit I'm feeling it
rocky pecan
o/o
wraith relic
<@139532395769495552> ok i thought tanking in wotlk would be scarier
I tried doing a random dungeon to queue up for and level. I left within the first 10 minutes 
steel remnant
I tried doing a random dungeon to queue up for and level. I left within the firs...
yeah they are kinda bad in the lower ones
the gamma ones are alot better
noble forge
also true at max lvl
wraith relic
If it’s more healing I’d be fine
steel remnant
@noble forge can u cheese gammas with dodge gear and the thorns power?
noble forge
define cheese
steel remnant
define cheese
like do absurds amount of dmg with thorns
is it possible to get a near 100% dodge chance
steel remnant
ok im learning that the Utgarde gammas blow dick
if i get frostbite and im rooted its gg
steel remnant
convinced a guild to trial my rat druid 
noble forge
convinced a guild to trial my rat druid <:EZ:651603763089506311>
Do they know what they got into
steel remnant
Do they know what they got into
i did okay for my gs i didnt play like a god
but im not gonna be butthurt if they dont want me either im vibing
tidal heart
What do you guys play when you hit 60? HotW in raids or full resto? I wanna try tanking in raids but i hear that the only spot for druid is mainly OT
wraith relic
What do you guys play when you hit 60? HotW in raids or full resto? I wanna try ...
might have better luck by joining the classic discord. link in pins
meager ibex
Does anyone have the correct profiles for Ratingbuster for Feral-DPS and Feral-Tank?
oblique minnow
i was tanking like 5 mobs
/cast !Dire Bear Form
meager ibex
Does anyone have a macro to put the water shape, travel and flight shape in one button?
sand marten
Hi I'm feral returning since p2 so all ulduar 4800gs would trinkets be best thing to spend scourgestone/frost emblems on?
wraith relic
Hi I'm feral returning since p2 so all ulduar 4800gs would trinkets be best thin...
Might get a faster response in the Druid classic discord. Link is in the pins 
noble forge
Hi I'm feral returning since p2 so all ulduar 4800gs would trinkets be best thin...
mjollnir + deaths choice
oh wait you asked
frost emblems not worth imo
just get 4p early
and scourgestones depends on what gear you have dunno cant really say
quiet knot
one run of wailing caverns on hardcore = 4p fang set
shy lake
quick meteor
is it important to keep rake uptime close to 100%?
fossil harness
is it important to keep rake uptime close to 100%?
😩
why johnny
why must we suffer
keep all bleeds up
quick meteor
i was looking at some logs, and noticed people dont keep rake up, thats why i asked, maybe it wasnt worth or something, kekw
noble forge
i was looking at some logs, and noticed people dont keep rake up, thats why i as...
some things would help to know: what logs you are talking about
and what game you are talking about
quick meteor
wotlk, top logs from warcraftlogs
noble forge
I looked at marrowgar log for example
basically 100% uptime
as in think log said 80% uptime but you cant have 100% boss uptime to begin with
interesting top log saurfang doesnt rake at all but they dont have t10 4p yet
quick meteor
another question, ive noticed too that some people are tf and berserk after
i know we cant do the opposite, it works this ways?
this way*
haughty hatch
yo dumb question, on icy veins it says strength is best main stat, is this right? it seems odd? should i be using strength jewelry?
noble forge
no tbc moonkin wants spelldamage
golden raft
how are you guys liking HC?
soft narwhal
Hello follow cat's, I have a question to which I can't find an answere.
Is there a macro that let's u use shred and faerie fire as soon as it is off CD?
noble forge
no
steel remnant
@noble forge do you know why my lvl 30 warlock has 100% mount speed?
I got it at either 29-31 but noticed it today after reset
steel remnant
its 40
steel remnant
thats why im confused LOL i also didnt pay for it
its confirmed cuz its the same speed as my thorns buff druid following me
noble forge
weird
wraith relic
Something to do w this new phase?
gentle jolt
Nah they changed riding
It's now learned automatically and at lower levels I think
Oh wait this is classic
Disregard me lmao
coarse dune
hard linden
WOTLK plater combo points broken at the moment? Anyone else experiencing this?
limpid idol
anyone know if the resto t10 4 piece applies a normal rejuv or a different spellid?
candid sail
any suggestions on the best specs for druids atm.
(mostly for leveling to start, but then dungeons)
wraith relic
? This is classic channel
candid sail
woops.
wraith relic
meager ibex
Feral-DD Question: The ability "cower" is it actively used or is it an ability that is never used in wotlk?
noble forge
you arent using it
mental crystal
any suggestions on the best specs for druids atm.
resto for healing, feral (bear) for tanking, balance for ranged dps, feral (cat) for melee dps
dire socket
is it a good place to ask, was feral good in cata?
steel remnant
@noble forge
noble forge
no idea but also would be last phase anyway
steel remnant
honestly Cata doesnt look that fun ngl
meager ibex
I have a question regarding the addon GSE: Is it possible to write a macro with it that it should show me Shred when Clearcasting is active and otherwise Mangle (Cat) should be displayed to me?
wraith relic
honestly Cata doesnt look that fun ngl
Bro I did one H dungeon and left mid way
Classic players are so bad
steel remnant
Bro I did one H dungeon and left mid way
Yeah they are pretty trash
noble forge
I have a question regarding the addon GSE: Is it possible to write a macro with ...
you could do that with a weakaura
no idea if that addon could do that
assuming you only mean display
however
why on earth would you want that to begin with
you dont press mangle just cause you dont have clearcasting
meager ibex
i want use clearcasting for shred but the most time i click other buttons and clearcasting is procing in this time
noble forge
yes but you usually still shred even without clearcasting
the difference is you dont rake with clearcasting
mangle is always at most once every minute (assuming you dont have a bear or an arms war)
meager ibex
mangle is always at most once every minute (assuming you dont have a bear or an ...
but shred cost so much energy :S
wraith relic
but it also does so much damage
what server you on bro
noble forge
what server you on bro
firemaw and gehennas
noble forge
all the cool ppl EU
have you considered being cool?
wraith relic
I am cool enough
noble forge
oh you play on EU?
tough badge
This have probably been answered previously as well. But could someone provide me some details as to the haste caps for resto druids in WOTLK without buffs? I know that with Celestial Focus, Wrath of Air Totem and aither Imp Moonkin Form or Swift retribution I should have 735 rating, while w/o the Celestial it should be 856. But how much haste rating do I need as base (if I expect that the buffs will be added in raid). If I calculate it correctly (856-735 = 121) / 3 = 40,3. which means that each percentage should be 40,3 and w/o celestial focus I can have 616 haste rating if buffs are applied in raid (6% = (40,3*6)) + 616 =~ 857
plain lynx
Looking at Season of Discovery and thinking of rolling this build as a combat healer for the initial level 25 cap, which will allow questing and dpsing when needed, and healing dungeons fine too
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/talent-calc/druid/5--5050001_050f70ja0q
Thoughts?
noble forge
This have probably been answered previously as well. But could someone provide m...
Im somewhat confused if you expect to have the buffs it's 735
If you don't it gets a bit more complicated pretty sure the buffs are all multiplicatively
tough badge
@noble forge so yeah if I understand it correctly. I need 735 haste rating if I get those buffs, and 856 (without the celestial focus).
noble forge
That sounds about right yea
Or well "need" being a bit strong of a word it's more or less the cap
But I don't really understand how you calculated a lower number without the buffs
cold moth
Hey got a question about power shifting and on use items... I am currently using the this macro to push a little more DPS... Is there any other on use items you all would recommend using other than exploding sheep?
#showtooltip
/cancelform [noform:3]
/cast [form:3] Cat Form
/use Explosive Sheep
/cast [noform:3] !Cat Form
pulsar yarrow
hello, how do you play druid in hardcore classic 10-20? i see people advise on improved wrath 5 , nature's grasp and natural weapons. Does this mean you hit mobs with wrath 2-3 times then bonk them with autoattacks? Is shifting into bear for regular mobs a waste of mana?
wraith relic
I just always did bear until I got cat form
pulsar yarrow
the wowhead guides said to spec balance (maybe even until omen of clarity) until 20's then respec feral. I am not really a fan of faster wraths because you oom very fast, you don't benefit much from casting an extra wrath. And natural weapons aren't that great at low levels.
noble forge
the wowhead guides said to spec balance (maybe even until omen of clarity) until...
natural weapons are literally as good as any level
they arent worse at low levels
pretty sure the reason its recommended is for natural weapons only - maybe omen and feral has nothing useful at all
the first decent talent in feral is the cat form movementspeed one
rotund horizon
Hey looking at this Season of Discovery stuff and I am trying to figure out it’s mangle working like it normally does and just replacing claw? Or are they making it a cooldown strike?
shy lake
Feral talents are absolute dog shit until late. Natural Weapons and omen is the correct play.
shy lake
Hey looking at this Season of Discovery stuff and I am trying to figure out it’s...
Doesn’t replace claw outside you should never push claw once you have it
I believe bear is cooldown
leaden gale
can you send gold cross faction in classic?
wraith relic
Don’t think so
leaden gale
ty
unique crystal
whats a good heirloom weapon enchant, if im lvling from 1 ? is fiery still good or ?
wotlk that is
unique crystal
thanks
tough badge
But I don't really understand how you calculated a lower number without the buff...
From wowtbc.gg for instance, it says
Haste Cap 735 Rating with Celestial Focus, Wrath of Air Totem, and Improved Moonkin Form or Swift Retribution
856 Rating with Wrath of Air Totem, and Improved Moonkin Form or Swift Retribution
I think I read it a bit wrong :D I read it as "when you these buffs your haste rating should be this". so I think I am in the clear now. Thank you :)
noble forge
From wowtbc.gg for instance, it says
Haste Cap 735 Rating with Celestial Focus, ...
it says your maxmimum amount of haste should be this
yes
tough badge
it says your maxmimum amount of haste should be this
mmm I see! At what point is it worth dropping points in celestial focus? I think I have around 800 in haste rating right now
noble forge
no idea my guess is if you cant drop haste
unless im mistaken there arent very useful talents instead they are more minor
tough badge
Hmm so it might be worth to gem more haste to reach 835 instaed of having like 10 extra sp per gem
noble forge
doubt it
tough badge
yeah the difference would be either to heal a bit more on the hots I can squeeze in compared to the amount of healed per tick, might be the same
noble forge
yeah the difference would be either to heal a bit more on the hots I can squeeze...
no the difference would be the talents you swap
shy lake
I like the duck
noble forge
this makes wrath hit for 36 to 41 instead of 28 to 33?
not quite that easy
but yes
it increases the damage of your spells
noble forge
sure its quite a bit
keen star
sick
livid raft
noble forge
no
steel remnant
@noble forge do you know much of wotlk lock?
noble forge
<@139532395769495552> do you know much of wotlk lock?
some stuff
noble forge
you can only use one dot
steel remnant
yeah i mean if i recast it and it didnt pop
steel remnant
ok cool i've been retail seeding out of habit and didnt know if it stacked with unpopped seeds
noble forge
reading the spell explains the spell
steel remnant
it doesnt say if it stacks 
noble forge
just swap target
steel remnant
steel remnant
i've been spreading dots between seeds
but i get in the habit of big packs just seeding 1 target
noble forge
i've been spreading dots between seeds
unlikely to be worth
steel remnant
unlikely to be worth
hm tyty
noble forge
but ofc depends on target amount
steel remnant
Boywifexo will become a big blaster eventually even tho i only wanna BG on this toon
steel remnant
yeah
noble forge
also you affli or demo
not sure at what point you start seeding as affli
as demo after 3 target with same prio you cast nothing but seed
think affli its later
steel remnant
also you affli or demo
im aff
noble forge
yea not totally sure for affli esp during execute and shit
but also in ICC doesnt really matter most bosses are mostly ST
steel remnant
I just wanna hit 80 so i can vibe in bgs
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slim kiln
hi
slim kiln
noble forge
wraith relic
noble forge
im quaking and shivering when is level 7 coming
Im also quacking and shivering
mental crystal
keen star
if I place down a target dummy then a mob walks over it, does it get aggro
shy lake
It’s a pulsing aoe taunt.
slim kiln
shy lake
@mental crystal @noble forge new level just dropped
noble forge
<@166917501974872064> <@139532395769495552> new level just dropped
HUGE DINGER
slim kiln
man level 7 seems like a tough one took way longer than 5 and 6
lol ''man'' XD I'm a girl XD all good tho
mental crystal
certified XD moment
hybrid bolt
what teh fuck
steel remnant
@noble forge how comparable is pvp gear in wotlk? like can i compete in full pvp gear as opposed to pve gear?
mental crystal
you lose loads of stats to resilience which is a dead stat in pve
steel remnant
yeah i can see that part but if i just want to casually do pve stuff can i compete in pvp gear
noble forge
<@139532395769495552> how comparable is pvp gear in wotlk? like can i compete in...
no
noble forge
yeah i can see that part but if i just want to casually do pve stuff can i com...
"casually compete"?
what do you want to do
noble forge
lol ''man'' XD I'm a girl XD all good tho
ngl you are mostly confusing
slim kiln
ngl you are mostly confusing
okay mr anti
steel remnant
"casually compete"?
not tank dps
noble forge
not tank dps
do you have a group which carries you?
noble forge
like I have no idea what context you talk about anyway
"not tank dps"
in which content
steel remnant
dungeons
noble forge
....
steel remnant
or old raids
noble forge
old raids outside togc isnt really a thing outside weekly quest
just do gamma dungeons for gear
and no for dungeons you can do pvp gear okayish
maybe some cheap boes
doesnt really matter
can also just go bear
and tonk
for fast invites
steel remnant
im playing lock
noble forge
unluck
bribe a tonk
and get fast invites
cause to catch up
you do wanna do
a lot of dungeons
steel remnant
boywife on the rise
noble forge
yea get your ilvl up enough to queue gammas
and then you prolly wanna farm like ~150 scourgestones or sth in that area
before you can enter ICC
noble forge
what
steel remnant
and dps trinkets
noble forge
you cant get offpieces
if you dont raid
you can get someokayish trinkets from gamma at least one - flare
but not nearly as good as dfo/phylactery
noble forge
you want to be big dmger
steel remnant
well
steel remnant
semi okay dmger
steel remnant
trag
noble forge
why?
you dont do any content
you wont get great gear
seems not really tragic to me
steel remnant
means i have to socialize
noble forge
Not really
noble forge
quartz hinge
Will balance druids become viable in SoD?
slim kiln
noble forge
<@166917501974872064> <@139532395769495552> new level just dropped
Another level dropped 
mental crystal
shy lake
Might even make it to 25 before SoD
mental crystal
sleek hill
hey guys. any bis lists for resto druids SOD yet?
cinder torrent
Any druid guides for wotlk (not icy veins or wowhead)
noble forge
Any druid guides for wotlk (not icy veins or wowhead)
try the druid classic discord - but im interested why dont you want either icy veins or wowhead? (Im aware at least one of them is very outdated forgot which one tho)
noble forge
hey guys. any bis lists for resto druids SOD yet?
are the stats of items even released for SoD?
sleek hill
Not sure tbh. Was trying to be preemptive in my planning. 1-25 should be easy to get
shy lake
are the stats of items even released for SoD?
No.
Pre-BiS won’t be worth worrying about. Run some SFK and then clear BFD naked anyway
noble forge
Not sure tbh. Was trying to be preemptive in my planning. 1-25 should be easy to...
dont think there is any point planning sth like that
mental crystal
Level 9 waiting room 
crimson vault
When speccing into feral tank leveling, does dps vs tank stats on gear matter? Not sure what one to go with
cinder torrent
try the druid classic discord - but im interested why dont you want either icy v...
They’re fine, just looking for a third opinion for rotation. Im like 2k (20%) under my sims and not sure how to improve.
noble forge
They’re fine, just looking for a third opinion for rotation. Im like 2k (20%) un...
but what does another option do?
if they arent wrong
noble forge
Believe lvl 10 before sod
mental crystal
Literally 0 chance
wraith relic
If no level 9 by December 1 then it’s joever
noble forge
sinful blaze
so for season of discovery classic, resto druids cannot ressurect out of combat but they can brez?
^ i dont remember if resto druids even have a regular ressurect ability in classic
shy lake
^ i dont remember if resto druids even have a regular ressurect ability in class...
They do not and there is currently no sign of them getting one. First brez rank is lvl20
indigo musk
I want to go all in as resto druid for season of discovery. Whats a good levelling build?
gentle jolt
I want to go all in as resto druid for season of discovery. Whats a good levelli...
Probably just go balance and hope wrath rune is an early and easy to get one
spice ember
Runes get unlocked at 25 afaik.
gentle jolt
Really? Because I swear I heard them say in the announcement something about getting a rune or two in the first few levels
From just a regular quest
I see it does say on wowhead it starts at 25
sleek hill
has anyone made a mock gear set for rdruid phase 1 sod?
do i need an app for that? how do i build one
spice ember
has anyone made a mock gear set for rdruid phase 1 sod?
We have no clue what drops in the raid yet. all u can do is PRE-bis assuming the loot is the same as it has been. Wich we dont really know if it is. Esp considering they said "bis" gear is from pvp event in ashenvale.
sleek hill
yeah i meant pre bis
spice ember
yeah i meant pre bis
I dont think anyone has taken the time to mock one up yet
shy lake
Runes get unlocked at 25 afaik.
Every class has a lvl2 rune quest to introduce the concept. We don’t know what the Druid one is, but it’s probably wrath of starfire with sunfire being a distant 3rd
spice ember
Every class has a lvl2 rune quest to introduce the concept. We don’t know what t...
I havent seen this info 🙂
Ty for info, could u link it?
shy lake
Pre-BiS for a lvl25 raid is a big waste of time. Just go clear some SFK
shy lake
Pre-BiS for a lvl25 raid is a big waste of time. Just go clear some SFK
Not sure on the source. The two I’ve seen referenced a lot is paladins getting Crusader strike and warriors victory rush. Finding SoD info is a pain right now with all the clickbait
Seems like it was shown at blizzcon at some point so it’s probably just somewhere in the mess of a VoD
noble forge
Pre-BiS for a lvl25 raid is a big waste of time. Just go clear some SFK
While likely true we don't know the tuning
But yea for classic content you won't need pre raid bis in all likelihood
shy lake
While likely true we don't know the tuning
True, but I can confidently say that the casual game for casuals will indeed be accessible to casuals.
sleek hill
you guys dont think 10 man bfd will be difficult?
spice ember
I think its cleared within 30 hours 😛
dont really think its gonna be a "progress" raid for most players
I hope. But dont think so 😄
sleek hill
i did see that they mentioned phase 2 will come "shortly after"
i dont think it will be like a nax to ulduar type of wait
spice ember
within 6 months i hope
sleek hill
true
spice ember
its not a big time investment to get to 25
They want data for tuning etc. Id say phase 1 withing 4-6 months
depending on how they wanna move forward. new runes?
shy lake
It’s gonna be a few months. Especially with Cata around the corner
sleek hill
i really think they will make SM a raid & BRD
spice ember
SM is confirmed level 40 raid?
spice ember
Prob not BRD at level 50 tho. ZF? Sunken?
sleek hill
BRD is so massive i always thought it was supposed to be a raid that they abandoned?
spice ember
Yeah, feel like BRD was a fail from their side. Its so big
Not fail as in bad. Fail as in they didnt finnish or smthg
spice ember
It’s gonna be a few months. Especially with Cata around the corner
around the corner? 😛 summer 2024 is not around a corner 😄
New retail is 2024 also.
noble forge
you guys dont think 10 man bfd will be difficult?
I don't think so
shy lake
If the raid is hard, SoD dies in the first two weeks
elder saddle
you guys dont think 10 man bfd will be difficult?
no its level 25
gentle jolt
SM is confirmed level 40 raid?
They "revealed" the next few raids at the end of blizzcon announcement
I think it was gnomeregan, SM and Karazhan crypts
I think they said afterwards it is 40, 50 and 60 level cap though I'm very unsure if I'm remembering that right